Driving Pet Peeves

[speedy_gonzales]

Pi$$ poor planning when it comes to infrastructure maintenance.
A couple of years back Saughton Road North was resurfaced almost in its entirety, a year later Scottish Water come along and dig large trenches for new pipes and as is always the way the surface is nowhere near as good as it should be.
Then, after the political football that is the Queensferry Crossing, it opens with much fanfare last autumn, this week lanes were closed to accommodate scaffolding & screening in the centre refuge for "vital maintenance",,,, vital,,,, really?

[sleeping giant]

Parking on roundabouts in Belfast . WTF ?

[Jack]

This happens quite a lot.

I was tanking up the M90 to Perth. Away in the distance is a car tailgating a lorry. It's miles away.

I get to within 100 yards and without indicating the car pulls out and sneaks past the lorry inch by flippin inch!

[snooky]

Pi$$ poor planning when it comes to infrastructure maintenance.
A couple of years back Saughton Road North was resurfaced almost in its entirety, a year later Scottish Water come along and dig large trenches for new pipes and as is always the way the surface is nowhere near as good as it should be.
Then, after the political football that is the Queensferry Crossing, it opens with much fanfare last autumn, this week lanes were closed to accommodate scaffolding & screening in the centre refuge for "vital maintenance",,,, vital,,,, really?

Yes , that really pi$$es me off. Brand new bridge appearing to require major maintence before a year has lapsed? Also the continuation of queues while the other bridge is barely used.
I'm starting to despair for mankind these days. Trump/Brexit/Bridge work/etc. Can they not get at least one thing right? :dead:

[McD]

This happens quite a lot.

I was tanking up the M90 to Perth. Away in the distance is a car tailgating a lorry. It's miles away.

I get to within 100 yards and without indicating the car pulls out and sneaks past the lorry inch by flippin inch!


These people need slapped silly :slipper:

[Scouse Hibee]

I remember when folk used to say there is nowhere to stop so they kept going until they found a place they could stop out of the flow of traffic.
Now days everyone just stops, hazards on and don't care about the inside lane of traffic that now has to funnel into the outside flowing lane to get round them. Even worse when they do it suddenly without indication and just throw on the hazards after braking. It's cars, taxis, vans, lorries they all do it.

[Pretty Boy]

I remember when folk used to say there is nowhere to stop so they kept going until they found a place they could stop out of the flow of traffic.
Now days everyone just stops, hazards on and don't care about the inside lane of traffic that now has to funnel into the outside flowing lane to get round them. Even worse when they do it suddenly without indication and just throw on the hazards after braking. It's cars, taxis, vans, lorries they all do it.

Worse still is when they decide they want to go again and pull back into the flow of traffic without a glance at what's going on around them.

[snooky]

I remember when folk used to say there is nowhere to stop so they kept going until they found a place they could stop out of the flow of traffic.
Now days everyone just stops, hazards on and don't care about the inside lane of traffic that now has to funnel into the outside flowing lane to get round them. Even worse when they do it suddenly without indication and just throw on the hazards after braking. It's cars, taxis, vans, lorries they all do it.

That's because answering their mobile phone is more important than parking sensibly and with consideration to other road users. Their phones mustn't have the aboility to call the person back once they find a proper place to park. :rolleyes:

[lapsedhibee]

I remember when folk used to say there is nowhere to stop so they kept going until they found a place they could stop out of the flow of traffic.
Now days everyone just stops, hazards on and don't care about the inside lane of traffic that now has to funnel into the outside flowing lane to get round them. Even worse when they do it suddenly without indication and just throw on the hazards after braking. It's cars, taxis, vans, lorries they all do it.

On the same subject of folk using public roads for their own private convenience, people who do three/five/seven/nine-point turns in busy main roads.

[Jim44]

Haven't read the thread - has somebody already done the one about the rude *******s who don't give you a cheery wave, flash of the lights or some other acknowledgement after you've waited so they can come past something blocking one lane? Drives me nuts.

I’m with you on this one to an extent, but, looking at it from the other person’s viewpoint, you are not really doing them a favour as it is your duty to stop for an obstruction in your lane. I agree tho’, a wee acknowledgement is appreciated. I don’t gat my knickers in a twist when I don’t get one however.

[Moulin Yarns]

As someone that lives in the countryside and walks a lot, the drivers who do not give you any room when they pass you. There are no footpaths at the side of the road I have to walk on the road, morons!

[patch1875]

Have we had when your joining a motorway behind a slow vehicle the car behind you flys over to the overtaking lane so you can’t pull out to pass.

[snooky]

Have we had when your joining a motorway behind a slow vehicle the car behind you flys over to the overtaking lane so you can’t pull out to pass.

TBH, I've done that because the car in front was dittering long before getting onto the Motorway. Also had it done to me and I didn't like it :grr: (BTW, I wasn't dittering however, the guy who passed me must have thought I was).
As you would expect, my actions were correct in both instances. :wink:

[heretoday]

The behaviour of Edinburgh drivers gets markedly worse in hot weather.
Aggressive blokes desperate to get past should be careful of their blood pressure levels.

[Jack]

The behaviour of Edinburgh drivers gets markedly worse in hot weather.
Aggressive blokes desperate to get past should be careful of their blood pressure levels.

Yeah. Get your air conditioning sorted! Chill!!




Not you them.

[patch1875]

Nearly pooped my pants today with what I saw.

Sitting 2nd at a pelican crossing waiting to go (flashing amber)a private hire taxi zoomed down the bus lane and nearly wiped out a crossing blind man and his dog, fair play to to dog for not getting spooked at a minibus slamming on the anchors.

[Peanut Shaz]

When your sitting first at lights waiting on a filter. It turns green and before you've had time to move a muscle the driver behind blasts his horn.

[Jack]

Many of the things mentioned here are traffic offences albeit minor.

One of my gripes is that even if they are done in plain view of the police the police do nothing. I'm not suggesting drivers, or cyclists, get done every time but a wee word of warning might go a long way to upping the standard of driving overall.

[snooky]

Warning lights that come on your dashboard that indicate somethings wrong but don't tell you how serious.
You find out after a cagey drive to a garage that it's your rear side light or something relatively minor. It happened to me one time while driving my daughter's car. I drove gingerly to a garage and was told it was a faulty bloody sensor. They charged me £100 to fit a new one. :grr:

[Alfiembra]

The Roundabout over the by-pass on the Calder Road is cracking me up just now.

I don't think there's a worse one for people not knowing what lane to be in or cutting across lanes, usually in front of me. :grr::grr:

[snooky]

The Roundabout over the by-pass on the Calder Road is cracking me up just now.

I don't think there's a worse one for people not knowing what lane to be in or cutting across lanes, usually in front of me. :grr::grr:

Lane discipline at junctions and roundabouts is generally appalling. It's not rocket science.

[Danderhall Hibs]

The Roundabout over the by-pass on the Calder Road is cracking me up just now.

I don't think there's a worse one for people not knowing what lane to be in or cutting across lanes, usually in front of me. :grr::grr:

Can’t be worse than SherriffHall?

[Hermit Crab]

Can’t be worse than SherriffHall?


You can't go wrong there, lanes are clearly marked and they even light up at night!

[snooky]

You can't go wrong there, lanes are clearly marked and they even light up at night!

You would think so, HC - but there's a few bams who can and do.

[Hermit Crab]

You would think so, HC - but there's a few bams who can and do.


I drive that way fairly regularly admittedly mostly later in the evening and I've never has an issue being cut up or anything. The roundabout at PC world though, don't get me started.

[pollution]

You can't go wrong there, lanes are clearly marked and they even light up at night!


Some people switch off any notion of lane discipline there. I use it several times a day

and I marvel at the lack of accidents if you consider the number of cars that use it.

I wonder what percentage of drivers don't have a license?

[Hermit Crab]

Some people switch off any notion of lane discipline there. I use it several times a day

and I marvel at the lack of accidents if you consider the number of cars that use it.

I wonder what percentage of drivers don't have a license?


Or shouldn't have one. :greengrin

[matty_f]

I drive that way fairly regularly admittedly mostly later in the evening and I've never has an issue being cut up or anything. The roundabout at PC world though, don't get me started.

That roundabout, and the one at Maybury, are nightmares.

[speedy_gonzales]

That roundabout, and the one at Maybury, are nightmares.

**Pedant alert**

Do you mean Gogar? There hasn't been a roundabout at Maybury for,,,,EVER :na na: Folk mention Barnton r-a-b's as well, again, they're long gone.

[Hermit Crab]

**Pedant alert**

Do you mean Gogar? There hasn't been a roundabout at Maybury for,,,,EVER :na na: Folk mention Barnton r-a-b's as well, again, they're long gone.


They were a load of mini roundabouts IIRC. Way before my time of driving though.

[Hermit Crab]

That roundabout, and the one at Maybury, are nightmares.


I try and avoid it at peak times but even mid morning or mid afternoon it can be horrendous, folk just pull out willy nilly, its no wonder theres be loads of smashes there.

[Killiehibbie]

Information signs on motorways that inform you about things like low tyre pressure using more fuel then you get to your junction and it's closed for roadworks. Maybe use the signs to inform about important stuff and put the stating the obvious crap on when all is clear and well ahead.

[pollution]

Some people switch off any notion of lane discipline there. I use it several times a day

and I marvel at the lack of accidents if you consider the number of cars that use it.

I wonder what percentage of drivers don't have a license?


Oops. Two car crash last night. Not my fault! Ps no one hurt.

[Danderhall Hibs]

You can't go wrong there, lanes are clearly marked and they even light up at night!

You’d think but you can. The old Craighall junctions the worst - going towards the A7 you’ll have someone in the dalkeith lane chop over into your lane to contend with before watching your right hand side for incoming.

All that assumes no one from the bypass has dismissed your queue and continued straight through the red light.

Plenty signs but a hell of a lot of folk that can’t read.

[matty_f]

You’d think but you can. The old Craighall junctions the worst - going towards the A7 you’ll have someone in the dalkeith lane chop over into your lane to contend with before watching your right hand side for incoming.

All that assumes no one from the bypass has dismissed your queue and continued straight through the red light.

Plenty signs but a hell of a lot of folk that can’t read.
:agree: easily into double figures for the number of times someone's cut into my lane on that roundabout and I've had to hammer on the brakes.

[pollution]

You’d think but you can. The old Craighall junctions the worst - going towards the A7 you’ll have someone in the dalkeith lane chop over into your lane to contend with before watching your right hand side for incoming.

All that assumes no one from the bypass has dismissed your queue and continued straight through the red light.

Plenty signs but a hell of a lot of folk that can’t read.


The A7 does not run from Old Craighall? Perhaps I am wrong....

[Danderhall Hibs]

The A7 does not run from Old Craighall? Perhaps I am wrong....

No you come off the A6106 (I think) and choose to go in the lane to the A7.

Maybe you’re one of the problem? :hilarious

[Pretty Boy]

No you come off the A6106 (I think) and choose to go in the lane to the A7.

Maybe you’re one of the problem? :hilarious

The A6106 and A7 are both Sherriffhall no? Old Craighall is the A1 and B6415 to Monktonhall and Musselburgh.

[Hermit Crab]

The A7 does not run from Old Craighall? Perhaps I am wrong....


No you come off the A6106 (I think) and choose to go in the lane to the A7.

Maybe you’re one of the problem? :hilarious


The A6106 and A7 are both Sherriffhall no? Old Craighall is the A1 and B6415 to Monktonhall and Musselburgh.


You're all the problem, lane cutter uppers, you don't know the lanes at this roundabout. Sit your tests again. :greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

Away from navigating roundabout and the roads that pass them......

Roasters that park in disabled spaces with no reason to do so. Some dickhead (blue BMW M3 13 plate if you read this) decided to tailgate me all the way through the Jewel Asda car park today then park in the disabled space nearest the door despite their being a whole row of empty spaces literally 3 spaces further up. Jumps out and strolls into the store with the carpets under the arms swagger. So thanks to Mr Selfish an actual disabled person may have had to walk or navigate themselves further because he couldn't be bothered walking about 6 extra steps. I've seen people do it on a Saturday afternoon when there is only 1 disabled space remaining. I wonder if it crosses these peoples minds quite how a wheelchair user is meant to sort themsleves out without the extra space a disabled space affords.

See also folk who park in the pick up and drop off area then disappear into the shop again leaving the potential that an elderly and/or infirm person may have to walk further to meet their taxi or lift.

There really is no excuse for either action.

[Hermit Crab]

Away from navigating roundabout and the roads that pass them......

Roasters that park in disabled spaces with no reason to do so. Some dickhead (blue BMW M3 13 plate if you read this) decided to tailgate me all the way through the Jewel Asda car park today then park in the disabled space nearest the door despite their being a whole row of empty spaces literally 3 spaces further up. Jumps out and strolls into the store with the carpets under the arms swagger. So thanks to Mr Selfish an actual disabled person may have had to walk or navigate themselves further because he couldn't be bothered walking about 6 extra steps.

See also folk who park in the pick up and drop off area then disappear into the shop again leaving the potential that an elderly and/or infirm person may have to walk further to meet their taxi or lift.

There really is no excuse for either action.


I hate that and never park in the DSB spaces for convenience. There are some videos of people being pulled up for it by other members of the public but it usually results in a confrontation with abuse being hurled towards the person filming.

People are just too lazy these days and wont walk the length of their noses.

[beensaidbefore]

****s that park in the bus lane in the rush hour! Gtf you self important twat.😡

[Hermit Crab]

****s that park in the bus lane in the rush hour! Gtf you self important twat.😡


Their cars should be impounded for that. Gits!

[Danderhall Hibs]

The A6106 and A7 are both Sherriffhall no? Old Craighall is the A1 and B6415 to Monktonhall and Musselburgh.

If I knew how to add a picture I would. :greengrin

The problem junction on sherrifhall is coming from the road where the cockatoo is/was going towards Bonnyrigg. It doesn’t matter the name of each of the roads but that’s the junction and direction that folk can’t understand.

[Gatecrasher]

for anyone that uses Ferry Road the traffic lights at the roadworks wasn't working and everyone was just running red lights.

[matty_f]

Last night coming south on the Quensferry Crossing, the speed limit is reduced to 40 and the overtaking lane is unavailable, at least 5 cars came tearing down that lane overtaking the cars in the right lane. It was closed for workers who were operating near the roadway. The drivers are selfish pricks.

[Jack]

Last night coming south on the Quensferry Crossing, the speed limit is reduced to 40 and the overtaking lane is unavailable, at least 5 cars came tearing down that lane overtaking the cars in the right lane. It was closed for workers who were operating near the roadway. The drivers are selfish pricks.

I saw on Facebook that the lane signs and overhead gantries were showing different lanes were closed/restricted. But aye it's these guys lives you're slowing down for. When I see a workie I sometimes give them a wee wave!

[matty_f]

I saw on Facebook that the lane signs and overhead gantries were showing different lanes were closed/restricted. But aye it's these guys lives you're slowing down for. When I see a workie I sometimes give them a wee wave!

When I was on the road it was very clear as the gantries weren't at all confusing, though I suppose once I'd passed them they could have changed.

[Hermit Crab]

Taxis, especially hackney cabs who avidly stick to the speed limit, 20, 30 ,40mph etc when they have a fare in the back but when they're empty they fly about the place cutting up other motorists, pulling U turns or just suddenly stopping because theres been a sniff of a fare... effin joke man.

[Scouse Hibee]

Taxis, especially hackney cabs who avidly stick to the speed limit, 20, 30 ,40mph etc when they have a fare in the back but when they're empty they fly about the place cutting up other motorists, pulling U turns or just suddenly stopping because theres been a sniff of a fare... effin joke man.


It's great when you are the fare that the taxi is stopping for though :greengrin

[Mibbes Aye]

If I knew how to add a picture I would. :greengrin

The problem junction on sherrifhall is coming from the road where the cockatoo is/was going towards Bonnyrigg. It doesn’t matter the name of each of the roads but that’s the junction and direction that folk can’t understand.

That's a bad approach. Actually, all the approaches, other than either stretch of the Bypass itself (A720) are badly marked. It's all very well having a really well-marked roundabout but if the lanes coming into it aren't clear then it just causes problems.

[Killiehibbie]

That's a bad approach. Actually, all the approaches, other than either stretch of the Bypass itself (A720) are badly marked. It's all very well having a really well-marked roundabout but if the lanes coming into it aren't clear then it just causes problems.
It should've been a proper interchange from day 1 instead of the shambles it is.

[pollution]

It should've been a proper interchange from day 1 instead of the shambles it is.


When it opened there were no traffic lights!

[snooky]

When it opened there were no traffic lights!

Given the volume of traffic that flows through the roundabout and the fact that there is traffic lights, I think it does okay.
I think a great opportunity was missed for building a north/south underpass when the diversion for the rail bridge construction was in place.

[Hermit Crab]

That Milton Rd is going to be murder for the next 9 weeks, Getting dug up for gas works, temp lights in operation at the cross roads near the esso garage.

[heretoday]

Folk who use the horn. Usually blokes.
In the time it took for you to do that, mate, you could have slowed down and avoided any risk of a collision.
Read your Highway Code (if you can) and you'll find out when to toot your horn. It might surprise you!

[Scouse Hibee]

Folk who use the horn. Usually blokes.
In the time it took for you to do that, mate, you could have slowed down and avoided any risk of a collision.
Read your Highway Code (if you can) and you'll find out when to toot your horn. It might surprise you!

I get your point and tend to agree, but I have used my horn whilst slowing down and avoiding a collision, you can do all three at the same time

[McD]

I get your point and tend to agree, but I have used my horn whilst slowing down and avoiding a collision, you can do all three at the same time


Depending on the situation, it’s also a way of demonstrating frustration at someone else’s poor/dangerous driving that caused you to have to slow down and avoid a collision.

[snooky]

Drivers like the one on the bypass today who was more than desperate to pass me then when he did sat in front of me driving the same speed I had been doing all along. :crazy:

[McD]

Coming home from Dunfermline yesterday, traffic backed up from the new bridge to Dunfermline junction, walking pace all the way to the bridge, suddenly the traffic picks back up to normal speed. No accident, no break down, just a bunch of morons who can’t maintain a reasonable speed as people want to join from a slip road, as if that’s something very abnormal. Cars literally coming to a halt on a motorway to let one car join the inside lane :grr:

[Hermit Crab]

Coming home from Dunfermline yesterday, traffic backed up from the new bridge to Dunfermline junction, walking pace all the way to the bridge, suddenly the traffic picks back up to normal speed. No accident, no break down, just a bunch of morons who can’t maintain a reasonable speed as people want to join from a slip road, as if that’s something very abnormal. Cars literally coming to a halt on a motorway to let one car join the inside lane :grr:


I was stuck in that, in was metal how it all just cleared after the bridge.

[snooky]

I was stuck in that, in was metal how it all just cleared after the bridge.

It's the same on the bypass - happens all the time. All it takes is one dumbo at sliproad junctions to panic and everything gets backed up.
On Saturday I was in the outside lane and noticed two cars coming down the slip road. I held back slightly so the Merc on the inside lane of the b/pass could ease into the outside lane. Instead the Merc stayed in the inside lane and the three cars got all muddled up with brakes lights flashing, two jockeying to find a slot. All because the Merc didn't have the savvy to read the situation and act on it sensibly. :idiot:

Seems like the bypass is attracting all the dumbos these days.

[Speedy]

People talking up more room that necessary when parking, e.g. leaving half a car's space between them and the start of double lines.

Tailgaiters on a motorway. Idiots.

[McD]

I was stuck in that, in was metal how it all just cleared after the bridge.


Crazy mate...it was just as bad when we were going north about 2 hours before

also agree about people who can’t read the situation at slip roads, if everyone used some sense and courtesy, everything would flow so much better and safer

[Pretty Boy]

Folk that just seem to drive at one speed.

I was behind a guy tonight on a road that was a 60 limit and he was driving at about 35mph. The road changes to 40 and he stayed at the same speed, it then changes to 30 and still the same speed then goes back to 60 and still the same ****ing speed.

[Scouse Hibee]

People who can't reverse park to save themselves but still insist on half a dozen attempts to get the right angle whilst holding up the line of traffic behind them. As you sit there in your car behind them you know they are never going to make it at the angle and distance from which they start, I'm for all giving people a chance but some folk are absolutely useless at it.

[speedy_gonzales]

Selfish & irresponsible drivers that blat down an empty greenway when it is in operation.
Witnessed a young lady almost wipe out a pedestrian crossing the Gyle Broadway. Traffic was nose to tail and going nowhere, guy crosses the road at the lights half way along, makes his way through the queuing traffic and little miss impatient speeds along the bus lane at 40+ and only misses the guy because someone in the queue hit their horn to alert him.

[O'Rourke3]

Might have already been done but the inability to stay in lane. Got blocked from a turn twice yesterday because a driver took up poor lane position blocking me from moving on.

The connected type are the ones who see a light at red so slow down and crawl towards it. I understand why they do it but they don't realise that in doeing so the 3 cards behind them cannot take the left fork and aren't going towards the lights. Does my nut in.

[matty_f]

Folk who hog the middle lane of a three lane motorway. Just move back in you pricks.

[heretoday]

It's getting so I take the inner ring route round the south of Edinburgh to avoid the bypass. Too many idiots now on that road.

[snooky]

It's getting so I take the inner ring route round the south of Edinburgh to avoid the bypass. Too many idiots now on that road.

Good, that's one less. :coffee:

(Just kiddin', HT :wink: :stirrer:)

[Jim44]

Travelling on the road from Peebles to Carluke yesterday. I was going up a hill towards a blind summit and at about 50 yards from the top I could see the head of a cyclist appear. He glanced quickly to his right which put me on my guard. Suddenly a car appeared on my side of the road, overtaking the cyclist as he approached the top of the hill. I had to slam on the brakes to let the muppet get back to his side but was amazed to see he was being followed by two other cars. A blind summit with two solid white lines up the middle was not enough for these clowns.

[Gatecrasher]

I had someone actually shouting at me for not slamming on the breaks and letting them in on front of me on the motorway this morning. Do people just expect the sea to part because they put their indicator on?

[NevadaHibee]

People who drive up the wrong lane and then cut back in essentially skipping an entire queue.

[Hibee87]

I had someone actually shouting at me for not slamming on the breaks and letting them in on front of me on the motorway this morning. Do people just expect the sea to part because they put their indicator on?


I had someone cut in front of me making me slam my brakes, I tooted and he tooted back and gave me a sarcastic wave with his fingers.....this made me more angry than if he had actually just swore at me!¬

[McD]

I had someone actually shouting at me for not slamming on the breaks and letting them in on front of me on the motorway this morning. Do people just expect the sea to part because they put their indicator on?

Apparently so, as it’s all too often this happens


i was on a 3 lane roundabout yesterday, in the middle lane. I had a car in the lane outside me, preparing to come off the the approaching exit. I wasn’t indicating, and following my lane to continue past the exit. A car came to roundabout from this junction to join the roundabout, slammed his brakes on at the last moment and began gesticulating at me for not leaving the roundabout. How he thought I was coming off when I’d given no indication I was intending to, not to mention the presence of another car immediately beside me preventing me from doing so even if I did want to do that..... :confused:


some people on the roads survive not through their own skill, but only by the skill and road craft of other road users

[Hermit Crab]

People who drive up the wrong lane and then cut back in essentially skipping an entire queue.


Happens on the run up to the junction with Milton Rd, from the Asda roundabout folk deliberately drive up the left turn only lane then cut in a the last minute usually stopping people that are actually wanting to turn left!!!

[Pretty Boy]

Happens on the run up to the junction with Milton Rd, from the Asda roundabout folk deliberately drive up the left turn only lane then cut in a the last minute usually stopping people that are actually wanting to turn left!!!

Every ****ing morning.

I'm sure there's an element of confirmation bias but it always seems to be people driving the same 2 or 3 brands of car that I get stuck behind as well.

[speedy_gonzales]

Happens on the run up to the junction with Milton Rd, from the Asda roundabout folk deliberately drive up the left turn only lane then cut in a the last minute usually stopping people that are actually wanting to turn left!!!

I generally try to keep traffic moving and let people merge in as much as I can but not so much that I end up going backwards, but this particular stretch of road and expected behaviour riles me to the point where I become a bit militant and wish for everyone in lane 2 to drive a fag papers distance from the car in front and for any poor sucker being held up in lane 1 to lean on their horn until the queue jumper is shamed in to carrying on towards Milton Road!

[Scouse Hibee]

I generally try to keep traffic moving and let people merge in as much as I can but not so much that I end up going backwards, but this particular stretch of road and expected behaviour riles me to the point where I become a bit militant and wish for everyone in lane 2 to drive a fag papers distance from the car in front and for any poor sucker being held up in lane 1 to lean on their horn until the queue jumper is shamed in to carrying on towards Milton Road!

That’s what happened to me few weeks ago, no one would let him in so I leant on my horn for what seemed like ages but still he wouldn’t shift and continued to block the whole left lane until he finally got in. As I then drew level he had the audacity to open his passenger window to shout abuse at me. Ersehole of the highest order,

[speedy_gonzales]

That’s what happened to me few weeks ago, no one would let him in so I leant on my horn for what seemed like ages but still he wouldn’t shift and continued to block the whole left lane until he finally got in. As I then drew level he had the audacity to open his passenger window to shout abuse at me. Ersehole of the highest order,
Obviously people can make mistakes, visitors might not be familiar with the road layout, but I'm fairly sure we can all put money on this guy being a chancer,,,,a chancer that deserves to be mocked. Never one to advocate violence so I sometimes find that when another driver gets their BP above healthy levels and starts giving verbals, I find a blown kids and a cheeky wave (Julian Clary style) really confuses them and ends up ruining their day more than yours.

CAVEAT: this generally only works when the other driver is the same sex as you!

[heretoday]

Driving drives people mental.

[lapsedhibee]

Every ****ing morning.

I'm sure there's an element of confirmation bias but it always seems to be people driving the same 2 or 3 brands of car that I get stuck behind as well.
Surely that's right though - if you've paid more for your car then other people should be expected to give way to you? :confused:

[lord bunberry]

Surely that's right though - if you've paid more for your car then other people should be expected to give way to you? :confused:
I used to love it when I was driving my old car. It was an old mondeo and if anyone ever tried to cut me up I just kept driving straight on. People with expensive cars tend to want to keep them in a good condition. I do the same in the taxi :greengrin

[Hibrandenburg]

I used to love it when I was driving my old car. It was an old mondeo and if anyone ever tried to cut me up I just kept driving straight on. People with expensive cars tend to want to keep them in a good condition. I do the same in the taxi :greengrin

Most taxi drivers do. :duck:

[lord bunberry]

Most taxi drivers do. :duck:
We try our best :greengrin

[Hibrandenburg]

Doing 136 on the Autobahn with nothing in your lane in front of you when a lorry doing 60 pulls out 100m in front to overtake another lorry. Squeaky bum time and a change of underwear in order.

[Jack]

Doing 136 on the Autobahn with nothing in your lane in front of you when a lorry doing 60 pulls out 100m in front to overtake another lorry. Squeaky bum time and a change of underwear in order.

You should try it over here. The police get right humpty and you make the papers! lol

I bought a second hand BMW 7 Series in England a few moons ago. What a pleasure it was driving it home.

I got to Abington, slowed down and moved out the BMW lane to join the mortals. There was a lorry there but like me it wasn't indicating as we passed the 100 metre mark and then it had the audacity to go up the slip road too! I floored it and before I knew where I was I'd flown past it doing well over a ton with the roundabout approaching much quicker than I had anticipated.

That's when I discovered the brakes on the beast were every bit as good as the acceleration!

Awesome and then some!

It wasn't long after that I became old and smug. Knowing I could but didn't have to show off.

[Sylar]

M8 into Glasgow, junction 12...it's a long slip road that eventually comes off the M8 heading to Stepps. Every morning, when the traffic backs up to their, the amount of idiots who come out the inside lane, fire up the slip and then try and merge over again at the end is infuriating. Those that drive it every morning are clear, as they're militant at not letting anyone in from the left.

It also forces people genuinely trying to use the slip to wait for them to merge, or swerve around them into the hard shoulder (as often those trying to merge will just stop suddenly and throw their indicator on).

[calumhibee1]

Was driving behind a woman who indicated right rather than left to come off three different roundabouts. Not sure if she just thinks that’s the way to indicate or if she thinks her indicators are the other way round. Either way, she’ll be in an accident soon enough I’d suspect.

[Speedy]

Cyclists on the road when there is a cycling path adjacent to the road.

[speedy_gonzales]

Cyclists on the road when there is a cycling path adjacent to the road.

And?

[Scouse Hibee]

Cyclists on the road when there is a cycling path adjacent to the road.

Cyclists who blatantly ignore red lights, they never seem to post that footage from their head cams though.

[Speedy]

And?

And it slows down traffic and it increases the likelihood of someone getting hurt.

[Moulin Yarns]

Drivers that don't move out to pass cyclists and pedestrians on roads with no footpaths. Morons the lot of them.

[speedy_gonzales]

And it slows down traffic and it increases the likelihood of someone getting hurt.

There will be a reason that cyclists don't use cycle paths, they are perfectly entitled (without license) to use the road if they choose.
Cyclists ARE traffic.
If road users are aware, and drive to the law, then nobody gets hurt.

When I used to cycle to work, I'd avoid the cycle path that goes through Holyrood Park. For two reasons, it was on the wrong side of the road and due to pedestrians, I made much better progress on the road. Progress is what it's all about, right?

[Speedy]

There will be a reason that cyclists don't use cycle paths, they are perfectly entitled (without license) to use the road if they choose.
Cyclists ARE traffic.
If road users are aware, and drive to the law, then nobody gets hurt.

When I used to cycle to work, I'd avoid the cycle path that goes through Holyrood Park. For two reasons, it was on the wrong side of the road and due to pedestrians, I made much better progress on the road. Progress is what it's all about, right?

I'm perfectly aware of why they stay on the road. It's quicker for them going through roundabouts than waiting at pedestrians crossings.

Selfish and an unnecessary hazard but it suits them until anything bad happens...

[speedy_gonzales]

I'm perfectly aware of why they stay on the road. It's quicker for them going through roundabouts than waiting at pedestrians crossings.

Selfish and an unnecessary hazard but it suits them until anything bad happens...
I'm honestly not understanding your "selfish" and "unnecessary hazard" comment.
A cyclist has every right to be on a road, regardless of lane provision. If there's a convenience factor then that is not being selfish, convenience is why we drive cars, is that selfish?

[GlesgaeHibby]

I generally try to keep traffic moving and let people merge in as much as I can but not so much that I end up going backwards, but this particular stretch of road and expected behaviour riles me to the point where I become a bit militant and wish for everyone in lane 2 to drive a fag papers distance from the car in front and for any poor sucker being held up in lane 1 to lean on their horn until the queue jumper is shamed in to carrying on towards Milton Road!

I hate this stretch of road and drive pretty defensively there to stop queue jumpers in the left hand lane jumping in.

Indicating right to go straight on at a roundabout drive me nuts too.

[Just Alf]

Cyclists on the road when there is a cycling path adjacent to the road.Agreed...

Don't get me wrong, as a cyclyist sometimes it makes a lot more sense sometimes... but when I do that, I'm extra aware that I might be slowing other traffic down so make more of an effort to be easy to overtake etc.. unfortunately some cyclists don't give a ..... hence the reason we all get tarred with the same brush.

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[Just Alf]

Just read the following posts... i rest my case lol :-)

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[lapsedhibee]

I'm perfectly aware of why they stay on the road. It's quicker for them going through roundabouts than waiting at pedestrians crossings.

Selfish and an unnecessary hazard but it suits them until anything bad happens...
:faf:

[Danderhall Hibs]

Non-cyclists saying that cyclists should “pay road tax” if they want to use the road.

[Hibrandenburg]

Non-cyclists saying that cyclists should “pay road tax” if they want to use the road.

Why not. The roads are infrastructure made available by the road tax payers. Why should cyclists be exempt from that?

[speedy_gonzales]

Why not. The roads are infrastructure made available by the road tax payers. Why should cyclists be exempt from that?

Over here, roads are paid for through general taxation, there's no such thing as "road tax".
Under current taxation rules, cyclists would pay the same VED as electric cars and low emission cars,,,,£0.

[Pretty Boy]

I walk along the Innocent Railway to work a couple of times a week. There are several signs indicating this is a shared path for cyclists and pedestrians to respect other users.

SOME of the cyclists behave in exactly the way the cycle lobby complain about car drivers treating them on shared roads. They pass pedestrians at ridiculous speed, pass closely and make no effort to share space. I've often heard a bell, turned to see some dick on a mountain bike not really suitable for such a path about 3 yards behind me racing right up the middle whilst walkers have to step right into the assorted nettles and weeds at the side of the path to get out the way.

I think all the arguments about big cars, fast cars, cyclists etc are disguising that some peoples mentality is to become little more than a bully when they are in the dominant position.

[heretoday]

Non-cyclists saying that cyclists should “pay road tax” if they want to use the road.

They should have tiny number plates front and back - and preferably lit up so we can see them coming towards us on the pavement.

[lord bunberry]

I walk along the Innocent Railway to work a couple of times a week. There are several signs indicating this is a shared path for cyclists and pedestrians to respect other users.

SOME of the cyclists behave in exactly the way the cycle lobby complain about car drivers treating them on shared roads. They pass pedestrians at ridiculous speed, pass closely and make no effort to share space. I've often heard a bell, turned to see some dick on a mountain bike not really suitable for such a path about 3 yards behind me racing right up the middle whilst walkers have to step right into the assorted nettles and weeds at the side of the path to get out the way.

I think all the arguments about big cars, fast cars, cyclists etc are disguising that some peoples mentality is to become little more than a bully when they are in the dominant position.
That’s definitely true about the innocent railway. Now and again I cycle along there with my daughter. Obviously we’re not going very fast and we keep to the side, but some cyclists charge along there like idiots. I fell of my bike one time when a couple of them overtook us really quickly. My daughter panicked and as I tried to hold her steady I fell off. There must be a few accidents along there in the summer as there’s so many people out walking their dogs.

[whiskas]

There will be a reason that cyclists don't use cycle paths, they are perfectly entitled (without license) to use the road if they choose.
Cyclists ARE traffic.
If road users are aware, and drive to the law, then nobody gets hurt.

When I used to cycle to work, I'd avoid the cycle path that goes through Holyrood Park. For two reasons, it was on the wrong side of the road and due to pedestrians, I made much better progress on the road. Progress is what it's all about, right?

Me too- the cycle path at the Meadowbank end near the loch is just used as a pavement. Plus according to Strava I’m averaging 23-25mph going through the park so pretty much keeping up with traffic. I do use the cycle path going up the hill because it’s relatively quiet and better for me and other road users than grinding my way uphill with a queue of cars up my chuff! I’m probably guilty of whooshing along the Innocent too but not at the expense of putting myself or other users at risk

[matty_f]

Why not. The roads are infrastructure made available by the road tax payers. Why should cyclists be exempt from that?

Low emission cars here are exempt from road tax so bikes should definitely be exempt.

[Killiehibbie]

Low emission cars here are exempt from road tax so bikes should definitely be exempt.

New cars not exempt.

[Future17]

Me too- the cycle path at the Meadowbank end near the loch is just used as a pavement. Plus according to Strava I’m averaging 23-25mph going through the park so pretty much keeping up with traffic. I do use the cycle path going up the hill because it’s relatively quiet and better for me and other road users than grinding my way uphill with a queue of cars up my chuff! I’m probably guilty of whooshing along the Innocent too but not at the expense of putting myself or other users at risk

Cyclists who break the speed limit. ;-)

[whiskas]

Cyclists who break the speed limit. ;-)

You can’t win- either you’re going too slow and holding up traffic or going too fast ;-)
I actually had a taxi driver blame me fir going too fast when he pulled out in front of me

[Hermit Crab]

Cyclists who blatantly ignore red lights, they never seem to post that footage from their head cams though.


Absolutely. I nearly got taken out by a cyclist at Abbeymount crossroads one Saturday morning when I was on my way to get the bus to an away game. I was crossing on green man when a cyclist flew through the red just missing me and I mean just missing me, he was going at some speed. Can't help thinking a little kid that may have been crossing may not have been so lucky and a bike can do some damage to you at speed.


Again at a crossing this time in London at Euston Square, crossing the road, admittedly it wasn't a green man but the cyclists traffic lights were at red sits a 4 way crossing, he nearly cycled into me this time at a lower speed, I said to him you just went through a red light, he then said I was jaywalking :faf:. I said you can get done for running a red light, I can't get done for jaywalking unless we're in the US. London is murder though, the traffic is brutal.

[speedy_gonzales]

Cyclists who break the speed limit. ;-)

Actually quite difficult for a cycle to break the speed limit, seeing as limits on roads apply to motorised vehicles only that must have a working speedometer.

At the start of the summer I was talking to a couple of policeman that were on cycles at the canal aquaduct at Slateford. They were there with a speed gun and were offering "advice" to cyclists that were deemed to be going too fast. I thought British Waterways had imposed a 6 mph limit on the tow path but the Polis denied this, apparently it's quite difficult to charge a cyclist with speeding.
Personally, I'd suggest fast cycling commuters should stick to the road, the canal tow path is just too narrow for the minority of (irresponsible) users.

[calumhibee1]

Absolutely. I nearly got taken out by a cyclist at Abbeymount crossroads one Saturday morning when I was on my way to get the bus to an away game. I was crossing on green man when a cyclist flew through the red just missing me and I mean just missing me, he was going at some speed. Can't help thinking a little kid that may have been crossing may not have been so lucky and a bike can do some damage to you at speed.


Again at a crossing this time in London at Euston Square, crossing the road, admittedly it wasn't a green man but the cyclists traffic lights were at red sits a 4 way crossing, he nearly cycled into me this time at a lower speed, I said to him you just went through a red light, he then said I was jaywalking :faf:. I said you can get done for running a red light, I can't get done for jaywalking unless we're in the US. London is murder though, the traffic is brutal.

Scenario 1, I took a cyclist (unintentionally) off his bike a few years ago who done the exact same thing. Was out a run, the green man was on as I was approaching at Randolph Crescent heading out onto Queensferry street. The green man was still on when I got there but the cyclist wouldn’t have been able to see me due to the bushes that run pretty much all the way to the junction. Got to the crossing, stepped out and his handle bars clipped my body and he flew off the bike (which was going at some speed). He was up in a flash wanting to fight me because I’d apparently “deliberately” taken him off his bike and didn’t “give a ****” that he’d went through a green man/red light. Absolute fanny of a man and while it’s the only time I’ve actually been hit I witness this sort of thing on a daily basis.

[Hermit Crab]

The price of petrol has to be at an all time high as well!

[speedy_gonzales]

I was walking not driving when I witnessed this but felt it belonged in this thread;

Folk on mobility scooters that think they're a car! Just seen a guy on a mobility scooter drive down lane 2 of the South Gyle Broadway heading East. Most drivers gave him a very wide berth buy a UPS van was not so careful, nearly rear ended him as the van was doing 30+ and the scooter maybe 7?

[lord bunberry]

I was walking not driving when I witnessed this but felt it belonged in this thread;

Folk on mobility scooters that think they're a car! Just seen a guy on a mobility scooter drive down lane 2 of the South Gyle Broadway heading East. Most drivers gave him a very wide berth buy a UPS van was not so careful, nearly rear ended him as the van was doing 30+ and the scooter maybe 7?
What is the law regarding those things? Some people seem to be on the pavement and others on the road.

[Speedy]

I was walking not driving when I witnessed this but felt it belonged in this thread;

Folk on mobility scooters that think they're a car! Just seen a guy on a mobility scooter drive down lane 2 of the South Gyle Broadway heading East. Most drivers gave him a very wide berth buy a UPS van was not so careful, nearly rear ended him as the van was doing 30+ and the scooter maybe 7?

Sounds similar to my point on cyclists.

If only there was a mobility scooter lane...

[speedy_gonzales]

Sounds similar to my point on cyclists.

If only there was a mobility scooter lane...

What was your point on cyclists? Must have got lost in all the ranting.
My point was this was a dangerous use of a mobility scooter. Scooters that can travel up to 8mph have to be registered to be used on the road, however, a lot of scooters are NOT registered. This guy was travelling the length of the Broadway, going down the outside of lane 2 (colloquially known as the overtaking lane or fast lane) by the grass central reservation. He had no need to be there and it was (in my opinion obviously) rather stupid and dangerous.
Had any other vulnerable road user done the same I'd have thought it equally ridiculous but the fact that it was a mobility scooter, it was tipping down with rain and the guy had shorts and a vest top on I thought it worthy of a mention!

[speedy_gonzales]

What is the law regarding those things? Some people seem to be on the pavement and others on the road.

There's different classifications on mobility scooters, some are limited to 4mph and can only be used on pavements. Some are limited to 8mph and can be used on roads. If they are to be driven, they should be driven just as you'd drive a slow vehicle, they are not allowed in active bus lanes but at the today's spectacle was before 4pm so he really should have been over to the left,,,,
Along with a requirement to being registered, there are rules laid out for their use on the public highway;

Rules for class 3 invalid carriages
Class 3 invalid carriages must have the following features:

a maximum unladen weight of 150kg
a maximum width of 0.85 metres
a device to limit its speed to 4mph
a maximum speed of 8mph
an efficient braking system
front and rear lights and reflectors
direction indicators able to operate as a hazard warning signal
an audible horn
a rear view mirror
an amber flashing light if it’s used on a dual carriageway
There was no mirror or flashing lights on this particular scooter I witnessed.

[Speedy]

What was your point on cyclists? Must have got lost in all the ranting.
My point was this was a dangerous use of a mobility scooter. Scooters that can travel up to 8mph have to be registered to be used on the road, however, a lot of scooters are NOT registered. This guy was travelling the length of the Broadway, going down the outside of lane 2 (colloquially known as the overtaking lane or fast lane) by the grass central reservation. He had no need to be there and it was (in my opinion obviously) rather stupid and dangerous.
Had any other vulnerable road user done the same I'd have thought it equally ridiculous but the fact that it was a mobility scooter, it was tipping down with rain and the guy had shorts and a vest top on I thought it worthy of a mention!

Are you deliberately being obtuse and antagonising?

Both are unnecessary hazards. When there are alternatives in place that are safer, they should be used.

[speedy_gonzales]

Are you deliberately being obtuse and antagonising?

Necessary?


Both are unnecessary hazards. When there are alternatives in place that are safer, they should be used.

So this is your point?

A person cycling on the road is an unnecessary hazard? Even though there may be a facility for them to use to get them off the road I have yet to see such a facility that takes them their full journey (such as a road would) so it may well be the cyclist has risk assessed this and decided it is perfectly legitimate and legal to cycle on the carriageway.
I wouldn't class that as an unnecessary hazard (hazard for whom?).

Comparing a cyclist on the road to a mobility scooter driving down the right hand side of lane 2 in a 40mph zone is pretty out there.

[lapsedhibee]

Are you deliberately being obtuse and antagonising?

Both are unnecessary hazards. When there are alternatives in place that are safer, they should be used.

:faf:

[Hermit Crab]

To the driver of the silver car that drove right up the inside lane which is closed for gas works on the approach to the temporary lights at the cross roads on milton and just pushed in to skip a bit of the queue well you nearly too my front bumper off. Twat!

[Danderhall Hibs]

I must’ve said this on here already but folk that keep going straight or turn left on a late amber leaving those of us turning right stranded.

2 of the worst junctions for this are Niddrie crossroads and gilmerton at the supperbowl chippy. No thought for anyone else.

[Hermit Crab]

I must’ve said this on here already but folk that keep going straight it turn left on a late Amber leaving those of us turning right stranded.

2 of the worst junctions for this are Niddrie crossroads and gilmertin at the supperbowl chippy. No thought for anyone else.


Agree, thats murder. Its like that at Meadowbank if you're trying to turn right into the shopping centre.

[Pretty Boy]

I must’ve said this on here already but folk that keep going straight or turn left on a late amber leaving those of us turning right stranded.

2 of the worst junctions for this are Niddrie crossroads and gilmerton at the supperbowl chippy. No thought for anyone else.

I think it's because some people just don't understand what an amber light means which is stop of you haven't passed the stop line and continue only if it's unsafe to stop. It happens to me all the time at those Niddrie crossroads, some clown absolutely flooring it from 10 yards away from the light to skip through the amber literally the swcond before it hits red. When they see you are irate you get the shrug of the shoulders and a point at the lights.

[Hermit Crab]

Some drivers need to look at why they place box junctions where they do and why not to block them. Also keep clear signs don't apply to some drivers. Same goes for priority over oncoming vehicle signs, sometimes its like jousting in a car!

[Lemonade]

Drivers blatantly picking their nose.
It’s like they think nobody can see them.
Even worse if it’s a good looking woman.
Why on earth would folk do that ? Manky skanks.

[Pretty Boy]

Guys staring in my car window when I'm rooting around in my nostrils for a snack.

[Future17]

Guys staring in my car window when I'm rooting around in my nostrils for a snack.

Laughed out loud at this. Getting strange looks in a car park now. :-)

[Hermit Crab]

I witnessed a first the other, a woman doing her make up while driving, had to do a double take.

[Future17]

Some Grade A fuddery on show on the road from Auchterarder to Edinburgh today. These people should have "drive the conditions" tattooed on the backs of their hands.

[Scouse Hibee]

I witnessed a first the other, a woman doing her make up while driving, had to do a double take.

I saw something similar whilst driving last week, I was so shocked I spat my sandwich out all over the windscreen and nearly spilled my coffee.

[Jack]

Not a peeve as such but I can't understand why some people, generally in very small cars, drive behind huge vehicles lorries and buses, for miles on motorways or dual carriageways.

They can't see much of the road ahead on a good day but on days like today they're almost entirely shrouded in spray!

[lord bunberry]

Not a peeve as such but I can't understand why some people, generally in very small cars, drive behind huge vehicles lorries and buses, for miles on motorways or dual carriageways.

They can't see much of the road ahead on a good day but on days like today they're almost entirely shrouded in spray!
Some people are just scared to overtake on the motorway. I notice it a lot in the taxi, I’m doing 60mph or so and there’s people who will sit behind me for miles.

[Killiehibbie]

Some people are just scared to overtake on the motorway. I notice it a lot in the taxi, I’m doing 60mph or so and there’s people who will sit behind me for miles.I had one tailgate me today for about 5 miles then eventually lost the rag and had to pull out to overtake. Road wasn't busy and any competent driver would've passed me miles before he did. Must be a form of Motorway Vehophobia. I don't think we're allowed to shake our heads in disbelief at the behaviour of these poor people trying overcome this terrible condition

[Killiehibbie]

I witnessed a first the other, a woman doing her make up while driving, had to do a double take.That's why their cars have mirrors.

[speedy_gonzales]

That's why their cars have mirrors.
And a nice wee courtesy light,,,,

[Jim44]

Drivers with no slip road etiquette or ability to anticipate. Driving west and picking up speed, from the Hermiston Gate roundabout in the inside lane with a car about 30 yards, if that, in front of me and no cars behind, two or three cars in the outside lane about to overtake me and the slip road to my left, apparently, empty. Out of nowhere, at a rate of knots, a car steams up the slip road, past me and jumps into the space in front of me and has to brake hard to avoid the car in front. With nowhere to go, I’ve got to brake violently to avoid going into the back of Lewis Hamilton. To add insult to injury, within a second or two, he accelerates and sidles into the outside lane, causing the drivers in that lane to also slam on the anchors. No signals at any point from the muppet. Fortunately everybody reacts well and the incident is over in seconds with Lewis disappearing into the sunset, with a huge grin on his face, I’m sure. I hope, when he has his next accident, he performs a crazy manoeuvre which doesn’t involve any other road users.

[speedy_gonzales]

Aggressive drivers, especially when they're in the wrong.
Had a driver that squeezed me out of the lane I was in as we advanced from a light controlled junction.
I was in lane one, she was in lane two and as we crossed the junction she started drifting left causing me to brake. She then had the temerity to lean on the horn and gesticulate in her rear view mirror. As it was we ended up parking next to each other at a retail park and I asked why she hit the horn (there was no need as I had already let her in and I hadn't reacted to her poor driving) and she said I was in the wrong lane!
I did stifle a laugh as both our lanes were for straight on and when I explained this she turned on her heels and she said "oh well, I beg to differ" with an air of entitlement,,,,

Some folks need to either drive with their eyes wide open or leave the car and take the bus!

[McD]

Aggressive drivers, especially when they're in the wrong.
Had a driver that squeezed me out of the lane I was in as we advanced from a light controlled junction.
I was in lane one, she was in lane two and as we crossed the junction she started drifting left causing me to brake. She then had the temerity to lean on the horn and gesticulate in her rear view mirror. As it was we ended up parking next to each other at a retail park and I asked why she hit the horn (there was no need as I had already let her in and I hadn't reacted to her poor driving) and she said I was in the wrong lane!
I did stifle a laugh as both our lanes were for straight on and when I explained this she turned on her heels and she said "oh well, I beg to differ" with an air of entitlement,,,,

Some folks need to either drive with their eyes wide open or leave the car and take the bus!


Some folk cant accept they’re in the wrong.

i was with my wife, parking in a retail park. As I get out the drivers door, this woman marches up and says ‘did you just hit my car with your door?’
I reply ‘no I didnt’, to which she then demands, are you sure?
‘Yes I am.’
she continues to get more aggressive, says ‘it’s really annoying when people hit your car’
I’m getting more pissed off now, and reply ‘yes I know, that’s why I didn’t hit yours!’
She then starts to inspect her car, I start to walk away, then she says ‘think yourself lucky!’
im now getting really angry, and ask her ‘why should I think myself lucky, I’m didn’t hit your car or any others, and nor am I standing ranting at someone in a car park for NOT damaging another car’
she replies ‘I don’t like it when people damage my car’. I’ve had enough by this time, and tell her ‘I don’t like it when busybodies who don’t know what they’re talking about accuse me of something that’s clearly not happened, but there you go’

[Gatecrasher]

I was in the wrong going up Easter Road to the Aberdeen Game and accidently blocked the exit to the new Lidl car park as i misjudged the traffic flow, i mouthed sorry with a wave to the guy wanting out but that didnt stop his wife/girlfriend calling me ever name under the sun. I was only stopped for a bout 30 seconds before moving off again ffs.

[Hermit Crab]

A decent dash cam is worth investing in. If you get any idiots who try and play silly buggers then you just point out the camera and they tend to back down.

[Hibee87]

I was in the wrong going up Easter Road to the Aberdeen Game and accidently blocked the exit to the new Lidl car park as i misjudged the traffic flow, i mouthed sorry with a wave to the guy wanting out but that didnt stop his wife/girlfriend calling me ever name under the sun. I was only stopped for a bout 30 seconds before moving off again ffs.

Ive done it myself as its easy to misjudge/forget its opened.

I had a great experience a few weeks ago coming down Dickson street (if your not familiar with the road it can get quite narrow in the middle depending whats parked) I was literally half way down the street and a car turned to come up from Iona street. Now its clear to the other driver its a bit of a narrow road so he should wait but he proceeded to fly up the road towards me, squeezed his car past (I had to squeeze to the left to allow him past) and he started going proper mental with the hand gestures, face was literally purple with rage. I wound my window down as we were both side by side to say somthing but before I got a word in all he yelled was EFF YOU at top of his voice before speeding away. Unless the guy had the worst day of his life at work/he caught his wife ****ging the neighbour, ive no idea why he got so angry when really, I was the one entitled to be more annoyed.
I blasted my horn in anger (a bit longer than was needed) when he sped up the road and I did notice him stop his car and get out, I really wish I circled back to see what he had to say!

[Hermit Crab]

The stretch of road between the Jewel roundabout and Granada services roundabout slip road is a 50mph stretch of road and its 50 for a reason. I always do 50mph when travelling on this and yet you see some drivers absolutely flying along. I could upload daily dash cam footage of this. Annoys the hell out of me that folk fly along here.

[pollution]

The stretch of road between the Jewel roundabout and Granada services roundabout slip road is a 50mph stretch of road and its 50 for a reason. I always do 50mph when travelling on this and yet you see some drivers absolutely flying along. I could upload daily dash cam footage of this. Annoys the hell out of me that folk fly along here.


I have noticed this regularly. It is disconcerting that people drive at that speed knowing there is a very busy on ramp from Newcraighall.

The number of near misses there is unbelievable.

[EH6 Hibby]

Driving on Leith Walk regularly winds me up. They’ve changed the road markings at Albert Street going up the way, and Macdonald Rosd driving down the way so that the right hand lane in only for people turning right. Every single time I drive through those lights, if there is not someone in the lane waiting to turn right, some ******** will drive thorough when they’re heading straight on. Both junctions require the people in the correct lane to move into the right hand lane when they cross it, either because of parked cars or building works. The people starting n the correct lane usually have to give way to the ****er that’s just skipped a long line of traffic to avoid an accident.

[matty_f]

The stretch of road between the Jewel roundabout and Granada services roundabout slip road is a 50mph stretch of road and its 50 for a reason. I always do 50mph when travelling on this and yet you see some drivers absolutely flying along. I could upload daily dash cam footage of this. Annoys the hell out of me that folk fly along here.
It's ridiculous there, nobody observes the limit and you frequently see people going above 70, never mind 50.

Same with Queensferry Road northbound after Miller and Carter, it's a 40 for a good stretch of that road and you see people hitting double that regularly.

[Hibee87]

Driving on Leith Walk regularly winds me up. They’ve changed the road markings at Albert Street going up the way, and Macdonald Rosd driving down the way so that the right hand lane in only for people turning right. Every single time I drive through those lights, if there is not someone in the lane waiting to turn right, some ******** will drive thorough when they’re heading straight on. Both junctions require the people in the correct lane to move into the right hand lane when they cross it, either because of parked cars or building works. The people starting n the correct lane usually have to give way to the ****er that’s just skipped a long line of traffic to avoid an accident.

It's unbelievable the McDonald road turn. I drive down it almost daily and not once have a seen people use the correct lane. I know it used to be the other way,
So at first I gave the benefit of doubt. But now it's just deliberately ignoring the change. I've seen many near misses there

[Hermit Crab]

It's ridiculous there, nobody observes the limit and you frequently see people going above 70, never mind 50.

Same with Queensferry Road northbound after Miller and Carter, it's a 40 for a good stretch of that road and you see people hitting double that regularly.


Yeah its a 40 until well after the Kirkliston turn off yet folk fly up there like Hartley Hare! The gantries on approach to the new crossing have new cameras on them as well, part of this smart motorway thing. They do work, I've seen the flash motorists when the variable speed limit is in operation. Folk don't see to give a toss.

[Hermit Crab]

I have noticed this regularly. It is disconcerting that people drive at that speed knowing there is a very busy on ramp from Newcraighall.

The number of near misses there is unbelievable.


There was a bad accident there the other week heading out of Edinburgh, at least one car ended up in the field after going down the embankment. Not sure of the cause of the smash but the road was shut from the Jewel to the Granada services for several hours in the morning rush.

[calumhibee1]

It's unbelievable the McDonald road turn. I drive down it almost daily and not once have a seen people use the correct lane. I know it used to be the other way,
So at first I gave the benefit of doubt. But now it's just deliberately ignoring the change. I've seen many near misses there

Literally every time I’ve been at that junction I’d say the majority of the cars in the right hand lane are going straight. I refuse to believe it’s the first time any of these folk have been at that junction since the change. Especially the taxi drivers, the majority of which still use the right hand lane to go straight on in my experience.

[calumhibee1]

Literally every time I’ve been at that junction I’d say the majority of the cars in the right hand lane are going straight. I refuse to believe it’s the first time any of these folk have been at that junction since the change. Especially the taxi drivers, the majority of which still use the right hand lane to go straight on in my experience.

Following on from this, drove this junction twice yesterday towards the fit of the walk and had 2 taxi drivers and a la fav car in the wrong lane the first time and then 2 la fav cars the second time. All people that will have driven that junction 10s if not 100s of times since it’s been redone.

[Scouse Hibee]

Following on from this, drove this junction twice yesterday towards the fit of the walk and had 2 taxi drivers and a la fav car in the wrong lane the first time and then 2 la fav cars the second time. All people that will have driven that junction 10s if not 100s of times since it’s been redone.

Agreed, also think it’s badly thought out and there is no need for a right turn only lane there.

[Gatecrasher]

After reading about that crash on the M4 i wish they would think seriously about retesting older people. Thats 4 people that could still be alive and that old couple in their 80s that caused the crash were just coming back from a holiday. Its not a nice thing to think about but lives are at stake just with anyone driving.

[Danderhall Hibs]

After reading about that crash on the M4 i wish they would think seriously about retesting older people. Thats 4 people that could still be alive and that old couple in their 80s that caused the crash were just coming back from a holiday. Its not a nice thing to think about but lives are at stake just with anyone driving.

It should definitely be done - I watched a programme last year (I think it was called 100 year old driving school) and the habits were atrocious - driving down the wrong side of the road so they get a better view etc.

It doesn’t have to be a full test like when you’re 17 but a check in how they handle the car etc.

[calumhibee1]

Agreed, also think it’s badly thought out and there is no need for a right turn only lane there.

Aye, it was fine the way it was.

[stoneyburn hibs]

After reading about that crash on the M4 i wish they would think seriously about retesting older people. Thats 4 people that could still be alive and that old couple in their 80s that caused the crash were just coming back from a holiday. Its not a nice thing to think about but lives are at stake just with anyone driving.

Had an incident with an old guy a couple of weeks ago. I had reversed about 90% out of my space when I seen his car coming towards me as he started to reverse. I blasted the horn several times but still he came. I had time to get out of my van , see him still trying to reverse as he was up against my van, wheels spinning on the tarmac.
Eventually the penny dropped and he got out and said " Oh we mustn't have seen each other"

I could only laugh. Thankfully nobody was hurt and my van had no damage. His car was dented and scratched.

[Gatecrasher]

It should definitely be done - I watched a programme last year (I think it was called 100 year old driving school) and the habits were atrocious - driving down the wrong side of the road so they get a better view etc.

It doesn’t have to be a full test like when you’re 17 but a check in how they handle the car etc.
Yeah 30 mins to an hour with an instructor or something g to ensure they are still capable would be a nice way of handling it imo.

Had an incident with an old guy a couple of weeks ago. I had reversed about 90% out of my space when I seen his car coming towards me as he started to reverse. I blasted the horn several times but still he came. I had time to get out of my van , see him still trying to reverse as he was up against my van, wheels spinning on the tarmac.
Eventually the penny dropped and he got out and said " Oh we mustn't have seen each other"

I could only laugh. Thankfully nobody was hurt and my van had no damage. His car was dented and scratched.

That's pretty bad. I feel bad for them as they are supposed to be allowed to go out and enjoy their retirement without worry but some of them are a real danger and it would be sad to have that freedom taken away from them.

[Jack]

After reading about that crash on the M4 i wish they would think seriously about retesting older people. Thats 4 people that could still be alive and that old couple in their 80s that caused the crash were just coming back from a holiday. Its not a nice thing to think about but lives are at stake just with anyone driving.

Devils Advocate here, I don't necessarily disagree with you.

However if the elderly are to be retested because of an increase in accidents they're involved in maybe young people shouldn't be allowed to drive until well into their 20s when statistically they are less likely to be involved in carnage!!

Also

Perhaps there should be a limit on the number of tests potential drivers are allowed to take. Even on a second test these drivers have only proven to be competent half the time ;-)

[heretoday]

It should definitely be done - I watched a programme last year (I think it was called 100 year old driving school) and the habits were atrocious - driving down the wrong side of the road so they get a better view etc.

It doesn’t have to be a full test like when you’re 17 but a check in how they handle the car etc.

Shame we can't extend that to all motorists.

[Killiehibbie]

Shame we can't extend that to all motorists.
You could be on to something, millions to be made in a re-testing industry.

[Hibrandenburg]

Devils Advocate here, I don't necessarily disagree with you.

However if the elderly are to be retested because of an increase in accidents they're involved in maybe young people shouldn't be allowed to drive until well into their 20s when statistically they are less likely to be involved in carnage!!

Also

Perhaps there should be a limit on the number of tests potential drivers are allowed to take. Even on a second test these drivers have only proven to be competent half the time ;-)

Good points.

[Killiehibbie]

Devils Advocate here, I don't necessarily disagree with you.

However if the elderly are to be retested because of an increase in accidents they're involved in maybe young people shouldn't be allowed to drive until well into their 20s when statistically they are less likely to be involved in carnage!!

Also

Perhaps there should be a limit on the number of tests potential drivers are allowed to take. Even on a second test these drivers have only proven to be competent half the time ;-)Is that because they've gained experience or are they just not ready to drive when teenagers?

[bingo70]

I've started to get irrationally annoyed at people not paying attention when i am trying to let them out.

Why people don't pay attention both ways when trying to turn right onto a busy road baffles me. Happened this morning going up Easter Road, someone was coming out of Brunswick road and wanting to turn right but she just kept looking up the way, even though there was nothing coming down the road?! Ended up having to give her a wee toot of the horn to get her to wake up.

Dare say pressing my horn will get me on someone elses pet peeve list but i don't care :greengrin

[matty_f]

Folk who jump red lights. Just ****ing stop, FFS.

Roundabouts with traffic lights are the worst for this, but also any roadworks where there are temporary lights to control the traffic you get at least 1 but often 4 or 5 cars that will follow the traffic through long after the red light's come on, meaning the waiting traffic can't get moving.

[Jack]

Is that because they've gained experience or are they just not ready to drive when teenagers?

Good point.

I'd counter though and say that although insurance costs reduce after the first year of driving, whatever age, I don't think they reduce substantially until a driver is over 25, whatever their experience.

I'm using insurance costs as it's they have all the stats and they load the premiums of those most likely to have an accident.

[Peevemor]

Devils Advocate here, I don't necessarily disagree with you.

However if the elderly are to be retested because of an increase in accidents they're involved in maybe young people shouldn't be allowed to drive until well into their 20s when statistically they are less likely to be involved in carnage!!

Also

Perhaps there should be a limit on the number of tests potential drivers are allowed to take. Even on a second test these drivers have only proven to be competent half the time ;-)

In France all new drivers are obliged to use "apprentice" plates (like L plates but with a green A) for 2 years after passing their test. Obviously this doesn't automatically make them better drivers, but other (sensible) drivers will give them a bit more leeway/margin for error on the roads, giving them more time to build confidence and hopefully learn to drive correctly.

[Hibee87]

In France all new drivers are obliged to use "apprentice" plates (like L plates but with a green A) for 2 years after passing their test. Obviously this doesn't automatically make them better drivers, but other (sensible) drivers will give them a bit more leeway/margin for error on the roads, giving them more time to build confidence and hopefully learn to drive correctly.

Seems a sensible thing to do, add in IF they are removed and the police pull you its an automatic ban/points fine for doing so.

I know there is also something you can get here for young drivers where a company puts some tracking device on your car for insurance that tells them if your driving the car like an idiot or not and insurance cost reflects this.....I would make that mandatory for drivers under a certain age or when passed for x time as well.

[Killiehibbie]

Seems a sensible thing to do, add in IF they are removed and the police pull you its an automatic ban/points fine for doing so.

I know there is also something you can get here for young drivers where a company puts some tracking device on your car for insurance that tells them if your driving the car like an idiot or not and insurance cost reflects this.....I would make that mandatory for drivers under a certain age or when passed for x time as well.
I got marked down when driving my sons car for being out at night, driving home from a nightshift at 5am. Again for harsh braking,doing an emergency stop when somebody emerged from a side road. Ended up only getting a 5% rebate instead of 10, I should've been marked up for avoiding the clown.

[heretoday]

You could be on to something, millions to be made in a re-testing industry.

Ha Ha, yes indeed! No way it'll happen.

I think it's frightening the strong emotions that motoring arouses in folk. Every day I see crazy behaviour behind the wheel.

And at the end of the day it's just a way of getting from A to B.

[Speedy]

Seems a sensible thing to do, add in IF they are removed and the police pull you its an automatic ban/points fine for doing so.

I know there is also something you can get here for young drivers where a company puts some tracking device on your car for insurance that tells them if your driving the car like an idiot or not and insurance cost reflects this.....I would make that mandatory for drivers under a certain age or when passed for x time as well.

I agree with the apprentice plates but telematics boxes hold a scary amount of data about you.

Arguably no more than a smartphone but they shouldn't be compulsory imo.

[McD]

I agree with the apprentice plates but telematics boxes hold a scary amount of data about you.

Arguably no more than a smartphone but they shouldn't be compulsory imo.


Telematics boxes don’t tell the whole story though. You can be an excellent driver, but someone else’s poor driving may force you to take evasive action, such as someone coming out of a side street forcing you to brake and swerve. Telematics would score you poorly here for harsh braking and steering, yet you are actually the better driver (and avoided a collision also).

Same for some of them that score you down for driving at what it classes as abnormal times, as mentioned above - what if you work night shift?

[Jack]

Telematics boxes don’t tell the whole story though. You can be an excellent driver, but someone else’s poor driving may force you to take evasive action, such as someone coming out of a side street forcing you to brake and swerve. Telematics would score you poorly here for harsh braking and steering, yet you are actually the better driver (and avoided a collision also).

Same for some of them that score you down for driving at what it classes as abnormal times, as mentioned above - what if you work night shift?

I don't have a telematics box but for my wee driving job I have a tablet with various apps such as say nav, video recorder and log. They do similar stuff to the box I'd imagine.

The sat nav regularly picks up the wrong speed for the road I'm on, 20 instead of 40 is a favourite in certain areas but it often picks up changes to the allowed speed early or late; if the GPS signal is dodgy then my recorded speed is inaccurate - my record speed is 2,400 mph on the M90! I'm not sure these boxes would save my employer money lol.

[matty_f]

The ****ing **** that designed the bit of road between The Gyle centre and the Gogar roundabout. What a stupid ****ing *******.

A set of lights right after the roundabout to let trams pass, then twenty yards on another set for pedestrians to cross, meanwhile traffic coming from Edinburgh Park gets held up trying to get onto the roundabout because, for some ****ing genius reason, they've designed the road to funnel three lanes of traffic into two lanes right at the first set of ******* lights.

So what you get is intermittent gridlock when the lights go red, and folk trying to guess what lane they should be in and without it being in any way clear, they have to start trying to nudge in past each other.

Yesterday I counted four different lanes trying to get into one at one point because the Gyle roundabout was such a ****ing shambles. I don't even blame the drivers now - you can watch someone join a plane at the Gyle side, follow it correctly around the roundabout and by the time they're ready to join the road up to Gogar, they're lane had been joined by several others with nobody really having a clue who is meant to be where.

[Speedy]

The ****ing **** that designed the bit of road between The Gyle centre and the Gogar roundabout. What a stupid ****ing *******.

A set of lights right after the roundabout to let trams pass, then twenty yards on another set for pedestrians to cross, meanwhile traffic coming from Edinburgh Park gets held up trying to get onto the roundabout because, for some ****ing genius reason, they've designed the road to funnel three lanes of traffic into two lanes right at the first set of ******* lights.

So what you get is intermittent gridlock when the lights go red, and folk trying to guess what lane they should be in and without it being in any way clear, they have to start trying to nudge in past each other.

Yesterday I counted four different lanes trying to get into one at one point because the Gyle roundabout was such a ****ing shambles. I don't even blame the drivers now - you can watch someone join a plane at the Gyle side, follow it correctly around the roundabout and by the time they're ready to join the road up to Gogar, they're lane had been joined by several others with nobody really having a clue who is meant to be where.

It really is a terrible roundabout. Impatient drivers make it worse by blocking the exits though.

[heretoday]

Some folk have a towing hitch on the rear of their motor even though its a wee hatchback. If you're trying to park in a tightish space it's easy to miss it and dent yer front bumper.

[Danderhall Hibs]

It really is a terrible roundabout. Impatient drivers make it worse by blocking the exits though.

The main road through the scheme/estate where I live is full of cars (folk who prefer to block the bus route instead of parking in their allocated space presumably cos it’s too far away).

Anyway due to this you have to be cautious but others don’t bother and pile through. Tonight I stopped to let a bus down and obviously it was taking too long so the boy behind me decided to over take me only to have to pull into the side cos surprisingly their was a big double decker coming down to smash him.

[McD]

The main road through the scheme/estate where I live is full of cars (folk who prefer to block the bus route instead of parking in their allocated space presumably cos it’s too far away).

Anyway due to this you have to be cautious but others don’t bother and pile through. Tonight I stopped to let a bus down and obviously it was taking too long so the boy behind me decided to over take me only to have to pull into the side cos surprisingly their was a big double decker coming down to smash him.


Youve reminded me of a major pain in the arse:

theres a row of parked cars, you flash a car coming the other way to come through before you go, and as you’re waiting for them to come past you, another driver (often more than one) arrive at the other end, and just decide to go as well, even though it’s very obvious you’ve already been waiting, selfish pricks!

[Danderhall Hibs]

Youve reminded me of a major pain in the arse:

theres a row of parked cars, you flash a car coming the other way to come through before you go, and as you’re waiting for them to come past you, another driver (often more than one) arrive at the other end, and just decide to go as well, even though it’s very obvious you’ve already been waiting, selfish pricks!

Definitely - also happens regularly on the same road.

The amount of folk that don’t acknowledge that I’ve let them through is incredible as well - almost like they think I have to let them through.

[Gatecrasher]

They have re-done and changed the lane markings on Telford Road, when the Roadworks leave there is going to be carnage for a few weeks as people learn the lanes they need to be in.

[CropleyWasGod]

They have re-done and changed the lane markings on Telford Road, when the Roadworks leave there is going to be carnage for a few weeks as people learn the lanes they need to be in.Where and how have they changed it? Just so I can be all smug and get it right [emoji38]

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[Gatecrasher]

Heading to Queensferry Road the right hand lane is straight only and the left lane is a left turn only. Then heading down to crewe toll its the same thing at the traffic lights.

Not that people will adhere to this anyway.

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[Wembley67]

Heading to Queensferry Road the right hand lane is straight only and the left lane is a left turn only. Then heading down to crewe toll its the same thing at the traffic lights.

Not that people will adhere to this anyway.

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Why would they make the left hand lane for left turns only? Only having one lane going straight ahead will reduce the traffic flow massively??

[Gatecrasher]

Why would they make the left hand lane for left turns only? Only having one lane going straight ahead will reduce the traffic flow massively??I'm not entirely sure but if I'm guessing its to stop the queue jumping that goes on there. But people deliberately use the wrong lanes to queue jump anyway so I guess we'll see. There are Roadworks there just now so perhaps they have something in mind.

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[Wembley67]

I'm not entirely sure but if I'm guessing its to stop the queue jumping that goes on there. But people deliberately use the wrong lanes to queue jump anyway so I guess we'll see. There are Roadworks there just now so perhaps they have something in mind.

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I genuinely am intrigued, I thought there was nothing wrong with that junction...just spending needless money I suppose by the end of the year.

[CropleyWasGod]

I'm not entirely sure but if I'm guessing its to stop the queue jumping that goes on there. But people deliberately use the wrong lanes to queue jump anyway so I guess we'll see. There are Roadworks there just now so perhaps they have something in mind.

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Is that the lights at the turning to Craigleith shopping centre?

If so, going towards Crewe Toll has always been right-hand lane for turning right. Like you say, people still queue-jumped.

Going the other way, I thought it worked well. Both lanes for straight ahead, then merging into one just after the lights. Making it just the right-hand lane for going straight on will make the queues horrendous, and encourage people to use the other lane to cut in.

[Moulin Yarns]

I genuinely am intrigued, I thought there was nothing wrong with that junction...just spending needless money I suppose by the end of the year.

The end of the year dash to spend is in February and March.

[Wembley67]

The end of the year dash to spend is in February and March.

I never said calendar year 😁

[lord bunberry]

Is that the lights at the turning to Craigleith shopping centre?

If so, going towards Crewe Toll has always been right-hand lane for turning right. Like you say, people still queue-jumped.

Going the other way, I thought it worked well. Both lanes for straight ahead, then merging into one just after the lights. Making it just the right-hand lane for going straight on will make the queues horrendous, and encourage people to use the other lane to cut in.
I think what they’re doing is changing the right hand lane ahead and right and the inside lane for left only. The obvious solution was to just have both lanes unmarked.

[Gatecrasher]

If anyone is really that interested to see the new lay-out i will pull my dashcam footage out when i get home.

[Wembley67]

If anyone is really that interested to see the new lay-out i will pull my dashcam footage out when i get home.

Nah 😁

[Alfiembra]

Wee bit different not a peeve as such but a bit of credit where it's due.

I commute Edinburgh to Aberdeen every week and on my return journey I by pass Dundee and travel through Couper Angus on the A85 I think.
Anyway it's a 60mph limit immediately changing to a 30mph when you hit Couper Angus, what has been done is a set of traffic lights has been installed at the first junction after the 30mph signs and if they detect you haven't slowed down sufficiently they change to red. The lights aren't there just for this purpose alone as thet also serve as access in and out of a small housing estate but everytime I've been above 30 approaching it or vehicles in front of me over 30mph they change to red. So I guess it's intentional.

[Moulin Yarns]

Wee bit different not a peeve as such but a bit of credit where it's due.

I commute Edinburgh to Aberdeen every week and on my return journey I by pass Dundee and travel through Couper Angus on the A85 I think.
Anyway it's a 60mph limit immediately changing to a 30mph when you hit Couper Angus, what has been done is a set of traffic lights has been installed at the first junction after the 30mph signs and if they detect you haven't slowed down sufficiently they change to red. The lights aren't there just for this purpose alone as thet also serve as access in and out of a small housing estate but everytime I've been above 30 approaching it or vehicles in front of me over 30mph they change to red. So I guess it's intentional.

Very intentional. A few years ago a speeding driver ploughed into a group of people killing a toddler in a pushchair. This was just after the new lights opposite the park

[silverhibee]

Is that the lights at the turning to Craigleith shopping centre?

If so, going towards Crewe Toll has always been right-hand lane for turning right. Like you say, people still queue-jumped.

Going the other way, I thought it worked well. Both lanes for straight ahead, then merging into one just after the lights. Making it just the right-hand lane for going straight on will make the queues horrendous, and encourage people to use the other lane to cut in.

Be a nightmare coming out mcds :greengrin

[McD]

Folk who wait til the light goes green, then start putting the car in gear, taking off the hand brake, checking the mirrors. The amber light is to alert you that the green light is about to go on, pay attention!

folk who indicate as they’re turning the car. We don’t need you to put on the flashing orange light as your car is turning, we can see the car change direction. We’d really like it if you put the indicator on before then, so we know you’re going to turn.

Road markings that contradict the Highway Code.

[Moulin Yarns]

I was in Nottingham last Sunday, my sister in law was driving, and followed a tram down a street that had no 'no entry' signs, instead it was blue circle with a picture of a tram and a separate sign beneath with the word 'only'. Thanks to the guys who signaled to turn round.

[stoneyburn hibs]

LRT bus drivers and their God given right to pull away from a stop whilst ignoring the traffic conditions.

[Scouse Hibee]

Western approach road to Lothian road, there are two lanes that turn right into Lothian road yet some drivers get upset when you use the empty left lane and try to block you in if you come across parked traffic on the left at the Shakespeare pub.

[matty_f]

Western approach road to Lothian road, there are two lanes that turn right into Lothian road yet some drivers get upset when you use the empty left lane and try to block you in if you come across parked traffic on the left at the Shakespeare pub.

I never really understand folk's annoyance at this - what are you meant to do if you're on the left lane turning right?

I'll always let folk in there.

[EH6 Hibby]

LRT bus drivers and their God given right to pull away from a stop whilst ignoring the traffic conditions.

I’ve mostly found buses quite patient in waiting to get back into the lane from bus stops, I usually let them out whenever possible and usually get a flash of the hazards in response. What I see much more of is long lines of cars refusing to let buses out, even though they are indicating to do so.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I never really understand folk's annoyance at this - what are you meant to do if you're on the left lane turning right?

I'll always let folk in there.

I get that but I’d imagine it’s folk trying to cut the queue knowing that they face either a delivery lorry or a bus lane when they get round the corner.

To answer your question though I think folk expect everyone to queue in the right hand lane as that’s the one that flows.

[Scouse Hibee]

I get that but I’d imagine it’s folk trying to cut the queue knowing that they face either a delivery lorry or a bus lane when they get round the corner.

To answer your question though I think folk expect everyone to queue in the right hand lane as that’s the one that flows.

Nah it’s the same kind of idiot that sits queuing in the outside lane when the bus lane is completely free and available to use during permitted times. Folk that don’t use both lanes create the problems.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Nah it’s the same kind of idiot that sits queuing in the outside lane when the bus lane is completely free and available to use during permitted times. Folk that don’t use both lanes create the problems.

I get the bus lane example but isn’t that the corner where you always (not just sometimes) have to pull over to the outside lane after you turn? Long time since I’ve driven round there but that’s my recollection.

[whiskas]

I get the bus lane example but isn’t that the corner where you always (not just sometimes) have to pull over to the outside lane after you turn? Long time since I’ve driven round there but that’s my recollection.

Yep, I try not to let people in in that situation too. The only exceptions being if it’s a bus, emergency vehicle or if there’s an impending collision.
It does illustrate a point about the bus lanes though. When they’re not in operation they get used as parking bays so you can’t drive in them anyway. The only bus lanes I can use routinely when they’re not in operation are the ones along Calder Rd.
I hear there’s a campaign to make them operational 7 days a week.

[Scouse Hibee]

I get the bus lane example but isn’t that the corner where you always (not just sometimes) have to pull over to the outside lane after you turn? Long time since I’ve driven round there but that’s my recollection.

Whether you have to pull over or not (and it’s not always the case btw) you are entitled to drive in the left hand lane and turn right into Lothian Road.

[Jack]

Whether you have to pull over or not (and it’s not always the case btw) you are entitled to drive in the left hand lane and turn right into Lothian Road.

That's true. However their sense of entitlement that drivers in the correct lane (right hand lane to right hand lane) should automatically cede to them is staggering. The baddies are in the blocked lane on LR, they have to wait until someone let's them in.

Private hire cabs are the worst here ... and probably everywhere else too.

Now that I've mentioned private hire cabs (:-) Do they need a UK driving licence? Not many of them seem to know the rules!!!!

[Danderhall Hibs]

Whether you have to pull over or not (and it’s not always the case btw) you are entitled to drive in the left hand lane and turn right into Lothian Road.

Correct you have a right to be in that lane but when you find your lane blocked you don’t have a right to pull over into the other lane.

[pollution]

Nah it’s the same kind of idiot that sits queuing in the outside lane when the bus lane is completely free and available to use during permitted times. Folk that don’t use both lanes create the problems.


Good point. When I had a company car I would always use the bus lane when allowed, much to the panic in other drivers' minds

in the outside lane. Now that I drive my own car I don't use the bus lanes as that is where the pot holes are.

[Scouse Hibee]

Correct you have a right to be in that lane but when you find your lane blocked you don’t have a right to pull over into the other lane.

I never said you did, I was highlighting the fact that some drivers get irate as soon as they see you alongside them at the lights, and scream away from the lights determined to stay ahead of anyone on the inside as if they had no right to even attempt to use that lane.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Folk that don’t articulate their point and then get humpty when you question it. :hilarious

[Scouse Hibee]

Folk that don’t articulate their point and then get humpty when you question it. :hilarious

Who’s getting humpty 😂😂

[Scouse Hibee]

Folk who can’t decide which lane so they straddle both until they get to the markings which tells them.

[Pretty Boy]

The mother who decided it would be a good idea to take her children cycling today. One on a bike of their own, the other on the back of hers. 4.35 and it's getting dark; no helmets, no lights and all in dark clothing. The child on her own bike was swerving all over the road. An accident waiting to happen as you have to assume this behaviour isn't a one off.

I sat behind them until there was loads of space to pass, I hope for their sakes other drivers are sensible as well.

[lord bunberry]

That's true. However their sense of entitlement that drivers in the correct lane (right hand lane to right hand lane) should automatically cede to them is staggering. The baddies are in the blocked lane on LR, they have to wait until someone let's them in.

Private hire cabs are the worst here ... and probably everywhere else too.

Now that I've mentioned private hire cabs (:-) Do they need a UK driving licence? Not many of them seem to know the rules!!!!
It’s become much more noticeable with private hire cars recently because of Uber. Anyone with a suitable car can apply for a license and then they’re allowed on the road to work as a phc. Lots of people do it as an extra bit of income. Some of the driving is shocking.

[silverhibee]

The f****ers who use the street I live in as a short cut and drive at double the speed limit as well, nightmare from 3-6 each day, apart from weekends, worst offenders being workies in vans.

[Hermit Crab]

Twats that dont turn their full beam off HGV's are bad for this.

[O'Rourke3]

Suspect this has already been done but the ducks that race you round the roundabout so they can nip in front before the merge. Congrats. You are now one ahead in the static queue. 3 times in 3 days heading home along the A71 at the park and ride. First duck actually forced me to stay on and use the right turn at Hermiston.

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[stoneyburn hibs]

Suspect this has already been done but the ducks that race you round the roundabout so they can nip in front before the merge. Congrats. You are now one ahead in the static queue. 3 times in 3 days heading home along the A71 at the park and ride. First duck actually forced me to stay on and use the right turn at Hermiston.

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Have to agree, I find that act totally knobbish.

[Scouse Hibee]

People who brake before they indicate when they are intending to turn. You sit behind them wondering what they are doing and then finally the indicator comes on.

[J-C]

People who brake before they indicate when they are intending to turn. You sit behind them wondering what they are doing and then finally the indicator comes on.
You're meant to indicate 1st so when you do break, the driver behind expects it.

[Jones28]

Suspect this has already been done but the ducks that race you round the roundabout so they can nip in front before the merge. Congrats. You are now one ahead in the static queue. 3 times in 3 days heading home along the A71 at the park and ride. First duck actually forced me to stay on and use the right turn at Hermiston.

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A guy in a Porsche did that to me at Sherriff Hall. First and only time I ever feel like I've seen red when driving.

[Scouse Hibee]

You're meant to indicate 1st so when you do break, the driver behind expects it.

Exactly

[McD]

People who brake before they indicate when they are intending to turn. You sit behind them wondering what they are doing and then finally the indicator comes on.


You're meant to indicate 1st so when you do break, the driver behind expects it.


Exactly


:agree:

The amount of of people who indicate as they start to turn the wheel does my head in. I can see your car changing direction, indicate *before* so that I know you’re going to, indicating after the direction change is pointless.

also, people who are turning right at a roundabout, but don’t indicate until they’re coming off. I know some roundabouts have more than 4 exits, and/or not laid out in a basic 4 way, 90 degree angled manner, but even on simple roundabouts, you just don’t know where these people will just suddenly change direction.

[hfc rd]

Got a few but the two that annoy me the most are the following:


Folk that don’t signal when they are going to turn left/right

Also bus drivers that think they have right of way when attempting to pull out.

Don’t get me started on cyclists...

[Peevemor]

I think buses DO have the right of way when pulling out.

[Jack]

I think buses DO have the right of way when pulling out.

Rule 223
Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops. Look out for people getting off a bus or tram and crossing the road.

I think that means you should, not that you must. As a driver driving along I'd suggest you retain right of way over the bus and that the bus can only move into the flow of traffic if it's safe or is invited to do so.

[lord bunberry]

I think buses DO have the right of way when pulling out.
They don’t. They are considered a hazard, but they shouldn’t just pull out into traffic. The majority of time they’ll indicate and move out when a gap appears. Usually this will cause the traffic behind to slow down a bit to let them fully out. I think what people have a problem with is when they pull out just as you’re overtaking them. I would say that’s mostly the driver not looking properly. There will be bad bus drivers the same as there’s bad car drivers.

[Wilson]

I think buses DO have the right of way when pulling out.

You must be a bus driver.

[lapsedhibee]

The amount of of people who indicate as they start to turn the wheel does my head in. I can see your car changing direction, indicate *before* so that I know you’re going to, indicating after the direction change is pointless.


:agree: Amazing for how many and how quickly the Mirror-Signal-Manoeuvre mantra morphs into just Manoeuvre-Signal after passing a driving test.

[lapsedhibee]

also, people who are turning right at a roundabout, but don’t indicate until they’re coming off. I know some roundabouts have more than 4 exits, and/or not laid out in a basic 4 way, 90 degree angled manner, but even on simple roundabouts, you just don’t know where these people will just suddenly change direction.

Possibly should be in the "Things you don't get" thread rather than this one, but people at basic 4 way, 90 degree angled roundabouts who indicate right when their intention is to take the second exit (ie go straight on). WTF?

[pollution]

Possibly should be in the "Things you don't get" thread rather than this one, but people at basic 4 way, 90 degree angled roundabouts who indicate right when their intention is to take the second exit (ie go straight on). WTF?


I see this a lot. Maybe it is for traffic waiting to enter from the first exit that they cannot proceed?

[hfc rd]

They don’t. They are considered a hazard, but they shouldn’t just pull out into traffic. The majority of time they’ll indicate and move out when a gap appears. Usually this will cause the traffic behind to slow down a bit to let them fully out. I think what people have a problem with is when they pull out just as you’re overtaking them. I would say that’s mostly the driver not looking properly. There will be bad bus drivers the same as there’s bad car drivers.



This.

I don’t mind giving way to them but it’s the part when they’ve finished picking up folk from the bus stop and instantly begin to pull out ignoring the traffic behind them that really begins to piss me off.

[RyeSloan]

I see this a lot. Maybe it is for traffic waiting to enter from the first exit that they cannot proceed?

Is it not quite simple though?

Taking first exit, indicate left

Taking second exit, don’t indicate as you are going straight on

Taking 3rd exit indicate right unto you pass 2nd exit then indicate left.


So if you are sitting at the first exit and the dude comes on without indicating then you know they are going straight over so you sit n wait!


I try to find people’s bad driving funny rather than annoying...esp. those folk that seem determined to protect their 10 yards of road space like it’s theirs to own forever. Quite why people seem to get themselves into such a cluster to prevent one car getting in front of them (normally in slow moving or queueing traffic) is somewhat beyond me...

[McD]

This.

I don’t mind giving way to them but it’s the part when they’ve finished picking up folk from the bus stop and instantly begin to pull out ignoring the traffic behind them that really begins to piss me off.


:agree:

Also, bus drivers who put their right hand indicator on, but aren’t ready to go, so traffic gets slowed down as the lead vehicle backs off to let out a bus who has no intention of going.

and, bus drivers who leave their arse hanging out into the road. Firstly, it’s now a hazard to other traffic trying to move past, and it means they can’t see any traffic coming from behind them.

And, bus drivers who are presumably ahead of their schedule, so drive at 20mph rather than just going at the normal speed and then waiting at a bus stop for a few minutes.


and...breath hahaha :greengrin

[McD]

Is it not quite simple though?

Taking first exit, indicate left

Taking second exit, don’t indicate as you are going straight on

Taking 3rd exit indicate right unto you pass 2nd exit then indicate left.


So if you are sitting at the first exit and the dude comes on without indicating then you know they are going straight over so you sit n wait!


I try to find people’s bad driving funny rather than annoying...esp. those folk that seem determined to protect their 10 yards of road space like it’s theirs to own forever. Quite why people seem to get themselves into such a cluster to prevent one car getting in front of them (normally in slow moving or queueing traffic) is somewhat beyond me...


It is that simple, but for some people, they clearly are too lazy or uninterested in other traffic to bother.



I think in *some* cases (I reiterate some for fear of offending any driving instructors ��), it seems that you’re not so much taught to drive, as taught to pass the driving test.

For example, when I learned to drive (a fair while ago), I was taught to reverse park by looking for a particular sticker on the back door window passing a given point, and then turn the wheel 3/4 turn. Which is fine, until you realise that another car won’t have the same sticker, door layout or length, and the gearing on the steering wheel will be different.

[hfc rd]

:agree:

Also, bus drivers who put their right hand indicator on, but aren’t ready to go, so traffic gets slowed down as the lead vehicle backs off to let out a bus who has no intention of going.

and, bus drivers who leave their arse hanging out into the road. Firstly, it’s now a hazard to other traffic trying to move past, and it means they can’t see any traffic coming from behind them.

And, bus drivers who are presumably ahead of their schedule, so drive at 20mph rather than just going at the normal speed and then waiting at a bus stop for a few minutes.


and...breath hahaha :greengrin


I think it’s safe to say that you don’t like bus drivers 😄

[RyeSloan]

It is that simple, but for some people, they clearly are too lazy or uninterested in other traffic to bother.



I think in *some* cases (I reiterate some for fear of offending any driving instructors ��), it seems that you’re not so much taught to drive, as taught to pass the driving test.

For example, when I learned to drive (a fair while ago), I was taught to reverse park by looking for a particular sticker on the back door window passing a given point, and then turn the wheel 3/4 turn. Which is fine, until you realise that another car won’t have the same sticker, door layout or length, and the gearing on the steering wheel will be different.

Well to some degree the instructor can’t be blamed for schooling you to pass your test but I must admit that’s a novel way to teach reverse parking [emoji23]

In the end of the day though practice and experience are what teaches you to drive and most of that comes after your test...

[whiskas]

That’s how my instructor taught me too (as well as pointing the door mirror all the way down to get a better view of the kerb. When I pointed that out he explained that the sticker was approximately where the rear wheel would be but yeah with successive cars it’s about trial and error. Also parking sensors are a necessity with modern cars

[McD]

I think it’s safe to say that you don’t like bus drivers 😄


:greengrin To be fair, I just don’t like bad driving, rather than bus drivers in particular :greengrin

[matty_f]

Is it not quite simple though?

Taking first exit, indicate left

Taking second exit, don’t indicate as you are going straight on

Taking 3rd exit indicate right unto you pass 2nd exit then indicate left.


So if you are sitting at the first exit and the dude comes on without indicating then you know they are going straight over so you sit n wait!


I try to find people’s bad driving funny rather than annoying...esp. those folk that seem determined to protect their 10 yards of road space like it’s theirs to own forever. Quite why people seem to get themselves into such a cluster to prevent one car getting in front of them (normally in slow moving or queueing traffic) is somewhat beyond me...

That's not quite right - when you're going straight on you still need to indicate that you're coming off the roundabout, so should indicate left as you pass the first exit (assuming it's a four exit roundabout).

https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/changes-and-answers/-highway-code-for-roundabouts

[RyeSloan]

That's not quite right - when you're going straight on you still need to indicate that you're coming off the roundabout, so should indicate left as you pass the first exit (assuming it's a four exit roundabout).

https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/changes-and-answers/-highway-code-for-roundabouts

Ahh yeah fair point!

[bingo70]

Roadworks when you have to wait on a convoy vehicle to take you through.

I passed my test 6 or 7 years ago and hadn’t heard of such a thing but that’s twice in a month I’ve seen this and it’s a total pain in the arse, just outside Inverness it must have taken me 10-15 minutes to pass a stretch of road about two hundred yards long. Is this a new thing that’s been brought in to protect the road workers or have I just been lucky to avoid them up until now?

The amount of roadworks on that stretch of road between Perth and Inverness was also a huge pain in the tits but I’m not sure that really counts as a pet peeve.

[Jack]

Roadworks when you have to wait on a convoy vehicle to take you through.

I passed my test 6 or 7 years ago and hadn’t heard of such a thing but that’s twice in a month I’ve seen this and it’s a total pain in the arse, just outside Inverness it must have taken me 10-15 minutes to pass a stretch of road about two hundred yards long. Is this a new thing that’s been brought in to protect the road workers or have I just been lucky to avoid them up until now?

The amount of roadworks on that stretch of road between Perth and Inverness was also a huge pain in the tits but I’m not sure that really counts as a pet peeve.

It's a really old thing, like me!

Hadn't seen it for yonks but seems much more common recently.

A few more minutes is worth a workies life.

[bingo70]

It's a really old thing, like me!

Hadn't seen it for yonks but seems much more common recently.

A few more minutes is worth a workies life.

I was thinking about that today and it must be scary for these roadside workers, I don’t remember ever hearing about a roadside worker being hit though. Is it something that happens but just not reported? Not sure how you’d know the answer to that to be fair but I’m asking it anyway.

Surely the traffic lights perform the same job without the need for a convoy vehicle at the front.

Sounds to me like they’re fixing a problem that wasn’t really there.

[Jack]

I was thinking about that today and it must be scary for these roadside workers, I don’t remember ever hearing about a roadside worker being hit though. Is it something that happens but just not reported? Not sure how you’d know the answer to that to be fair but I’m asking it anyway.

Surely the traffic lights perform the same job without the need for a convoy vehicle at the front.

Sounds to me like they’re fixing a problem that wasn’t really there.

You're right, I don't know the stats but a quick search of Google and it looks bad.

[Moulin Yarns]

I live in Pitlochry, and I expect there to be roadworks for at least 4 years on the stretch of the A9 to Perth due to dualling. It should save lives in the long run as this year there has been at least one accident a week during the tourist season on the perthshire section of the road.