Who for next manager?

[Caversham Green]

Robbie Neilson

But he played a part in our 2016 cup win - apparently that's a no-no.

[Onion]

I understand why some people want mcinnes although I don’t agree. However I am Puzzled by anyone who wants Lennon with the knowledge of the way his previous stint ended as well as the baggage he brings with him.

Only advantage I see Lennon has over McInness is if they were both successful at Hibs, Lennon stays at Hibs. His days of securing bigger job are probably gone. In theory that could give us a few years of relative success, without our manager walking away. McInness is young enough to see Hibs success as route to bigger job or even Scotland job.

[Billy Whizz]

Wheres Pardew ? A poster claimed he was to be announced last Thursday 😀

He was on the Sky Sports transfer show on Thursday

[badabing67]

If we get Montgomery then we 100% need his assistant too.

He has been credited with signing a couple of their players through his contacts. Has coached all round the world, including at Benfica (might even make Tavares look good as he’ll know him 🤣)

We got rid of the management team, we need a management team.

[Bridge hibs]

He was on the Sky Sports transfer show on Thursday JamesHFC 09:24 PM 27-08-2023
Pardew could be appointed as early as Thursday

What happened James ? 😃

[GloryGlory]

IMO McInnes is the stand out candidate and should be our No 1 target. We need someone who has the gravitas to shake this club out of its malaise. Anyone else, other than perhaps Lennon, will feel like rinse and repeat of last 2 appointments.

Who are all the other candidates? And by that I mean actual candidates on Hibs shortlist, not someone whose name has appeared in newspaper gossip and speculation.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Gray is a coach but not a defensive coach which has been explained numerous times on this forum

the dude is obv not dipping daily enough … :)

[badabing67]

Don’t like sound of it

Not what hibs need.

I’m still very much mcinnes or Lennon

Hibs need no nonsense with a proven record in the league

McInnes has more or less ruled himself out, never thought he would come anyway. So no loss, to me anyway. Lennon for me would be the best option. But I think Monte would be a interesting alternative I would be happy to go along with but I think he will need a long honeymoon period from us. Don't think Lenny would get any sort of love in. Can and should hit the ground running as far as I am concerned.

[Bridge hibs]

McInnes has more or less ruled himself out, never thought he would come anyway. So no loss, to me anyway. Lennon for me would be the best option. But I think Monte would be a interesting alternative I would be happy to go along with but I think he will need a long honeymoon period from us. Don't think Lenny would get any sort of love in. Can and should hit the ground running as far as I am concerned.Where has McIness ruled himself out ? Havent read anything ?

[Iain G]

Wheres Pardew ? A poster claimed he was to be announced last Thursday 😀

Pardew over due?

[Viva_Palmeiras]

That really takes the club forward.

I'd personally rather all the 2016 players who are likely to become coaches learned coaching in the lower leagues and came back when they are ready.

The club needs to move forward and stop reverting back to the 2016 comfort blanket IMO. It is now holding us back.

And yet we need people that “get the club”.

“Comfort blanket” sounds like we’re having a convo about the Jambos?

Did what McGeady said about SDG go under the radar?

Sometimes we can’t see what’s in front of us - so the comments of other seasoned professionals maybe give a better perspective…

[JohnM1875]

Where has McIness ruled himself out ? Havent read anything ?

He was asked about it and all he said was he was committed to Killie and they were committed to him, something along those lines. Stock answer really.

Watched the first half of Killie - County, no idea why, but it was dreadful viewing.

[badabing67]

Where has McIness ruled himself out ? Havent read anything ?

I heard his pre match interview on Sportsound, he didn't sound interested to me.

[Iain G]

And yet we need people that “get the club”.

“Comfort blanket” sounds like we’re having a convo about the Jambos?

Did what McGeady said about SDG go under the radar?

Sometimes we can’t see what’s in front of us - so the comments of other seasoned professionals maybe give a better perspective…

What did the miserable bugger say about SDG?

[sleeping giant]

McInnes has more or less ruled himself out, never thought he would come anyway. So no loss, to me anyway. Lennon for me would be the best option. But I think Monte would be a interesting alternative I would be happy to go along with but I think he will need a long honeymoon period from us. Don't think Lenny would get any sort of love in. Can and should hit the ground running as far as I am concerned.

He didn't rule him self out at all.
Stock answer about being committed and only focusing on Kilmarnock.

[Wilson]

He didn't rule him self out at all.
Stock answer about being committed and only focusing on Kilmarnock.

I'm really enjoying what we're doing here.

We've only scratched the surface at this club and we're looking to drive on.

I think it is more than just a stock answer.

I hope he stays because hibs fans won't accept games of football like Killie are producing today.

[Donegal Hibby]

He was asked about it and all he said was he was committed to Killie and they were committed to him, something along those lines. Stock answer really.

Watched the first half of Killie - County, no idea why, but it was dreadful viewing.

If we appointed Derek McInnes we will need to get use to dreadful viewing !

[jeffers]

I wanted McInnes but don’t believe we have ever been interested in him (or Lennon.) I think it will be Robinson, but hoping now it’s Montgomery.

[LaMotta]

Ross County leading at Killie, Simon Murray goal. McInnes out:greengrin

[Bridge hibs]

I'm really enjoying what we're doing here.

We've only scratched the surface at this club and we're looking to drive on.

I think it is more than just a stock answer.

I hope he stays because hibs fans won't accept games of football like Killie are producing today.Im no McIness fan but are you referring to the games where they more than matched the rangers, were aggressive, kept shape and caused them problems all throughout the game and deservedly won 1-0, the same v celtc in the cup when they done similar

The same when he set up his team to be difficult to beat at the tiny stadium and by all accounts should have won the game ?

Yeah we were all that under LJ right enough, he can organise and set up his teams v opponents, that is a strength and the marks of a good manager, he isnt going to win them all, particularly at Kilmarnock, but pound for pound he would have better players to work with at Easter Road

[ScottB]

Not sure that McInnes has ‘gravitas’ really? Chickened out of the Rangers job, sacked down south, did well enough at Aberdeen in a spell when Rangers, Hearts and us were out the league. Don’t think he’s a kind of, walk into the room and instantly command respect guy in a dressing room of young and / or foreign guys who are probably barely aware of him outside of his current gig.

[MWHIBBIES]

Don’t like sound of it

Not what hibs need.

I’m still very much mcinnes or Lennon

Hibs need no nonsense with a proven record in the league

Such rubbish. Being proven in this tinpot league? Why?

[04Sauzee]

Have the odds been taken down? Can't see anything on McBookies or Betvictor

[Blaster]

I wanted McInnes but don’t believe we have ever been interested in him (or Lennon.) I think it will be Robinson, but hoping now it’s Montgomery.

Not sure about last time but was told he got interviewed when Maloney got the job

[Bridge hibs]

Not sure about last time but was told he got interviewed when Maloney got the job

Dont believe that mate

[SHODAN]

Looks like we want Montgomery.

[Betty Boop]

Livica score

[jeffers]

Not sure about last time but was told he got interviewed when Maloney got the job

Not heard that, only he wasn’t what we were looking for. I don’t get why we’d be interested in Robinson (and I believe we are) but not McInnes, unless it’s down to money.

[He's here!]

Ross County leading at Killie, Simon Murray goal. McInnes out:greengrin

I'd be surprised if we're not considering Mackay every bit as much as McInnes. Good manager.

[Victor]

Todays games don’t show two of the favourites in a good light. Wouldn’t touch any of the SPL managers with a barge pole. We desperately need some new blood.


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[He's here!]

And yet we need people that “get the club”.

“Comfort blanket” sounds like we’re having a convo about the Jambos?

Did what McGeady said about SDG go under the radar?

Sometimes we can’t see what’s in front of us - so the comments of other seasoned professionals maybe give a better perspective…

I haven't heard what McGeady said but if he's backing Gray for at least a short-term deal I'd agree.

[Keepthefaith]

If you ever needed an example of how difficult it is to find the right manager, just look at Carrick at Middlesbrough. Was superb last season taking them from relegation candidates to the playoffs yet they now sit bottom of the league.

This is where I'm hoping that having McDermott as DoF adds a bit more stability as there's no guarantees that any appt will work long term!

Oh and another example would be Caldwell at Exeter...folk on here absolutely ripping the guys credentials yet has got Exeter top of the league. Funny old game eh?!

[nickwhibs]

Looks like we want Montgomery.

Yeah I think it’ll be him

[Bridge hibs]

Not heard that, only he wasn’t what we were looking for. I don’t get why we’d be interested in Robinson (and I believe we are) but not McInnes, unless it’s down to money.Not what we were looking for, thats kinda disturbing, McInnes an established Scottish manager with a wealth of playing and managerial experience in Scotland but we went for Maloney ?

Ive kinda supported the board and their decisions but Im a bit disturbed in thinking they would “take a punt” with Maloney, moreso his experience v McInness

[Donegal Hibby]

Looks like we want Montgomery.


Yeah I think it’ll be him

I hope it's going to be him 🤞

[greenlex]

Such rubbish. Being proven in this tinpot league? Why?

Because that’s the bread and butter. That’s where he will be managing. Now isn’t the time for yet another experiment.,

[Onion]

If we appointed Derek McInnes we will need to get use to dreadful viewing !

For those who suffered years of Alex Miller and Bobby Williamson (without the cinema), McInness holds no fear :greengrin

McInnes was given the perfect opportunity to count himself out but chose not to take it. Instead, we got the stock "happy here" answer. It was less convincing than Red Lex's "here as long you want me" and we know how than ended. What McInnes didn't say was more revealing than what he did.

[Bridge hibs]

Todays games don’t show two of the favourites in a good light. Wouldn’t touch any of the SPL managers with a barge pole. We desperately need some new blood.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYou could say the same for Rogers and Beale then, no ?

[Hiber-nation]

Bad day for 2 of the candidates!

Sounds like Killie were robbed though, Clancy at his best.

[Victor]

You could say the same for Rogers and Beale then, no ?

Yes. Wouldn’t want either. Beale appears clueless and Rodger’s is yesterday’s man.


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[jeffers]

Not what we were looking for, thats kinda disturbing, McInnes an established Scottish manager with a wealth of playing and managerial experience in Scotland but we went for Maloney ?

Ive kinda supported the board and their decisions but Im a bit disturbed in thinking they would “take a punt” with Maloney, moreso his experience v McInness

I’m guessing here, but I seem to remember the chat when we appointed Maloney or Johnson (maybe both) was about attacking/exciting football. Maybe they didn’t feel we’d get that with him. He’d be my choice but remember there was a fair bit of criticism about the style of play under Ross and they maybe took that into consideration.

[Hibs4185]

I’m guessing here, but I seem to remember the chat when we appointed Maloney or Johnson (maybe both) was about attacking/exciting football. Maybe they didn’t feel we’d get that with him. He’d be my choice but remember there was a fair bit of criticism about the style of play under Ross and they maybe took that into consideration.

Fair point actually.

I just feel now we’ve had an experiment with Maloney and LJ to a certain extent.

We’ve now spent some cash and we need some stability and results to back up the spending.

McInnes is a safe bet for a couple of seasons. It pains to me say that because I’m all for attacking football and taking a gamble but we’ve been there and done that, now it’s time for being pragmatic

[Bridge hibs]

I’m guessing here, but I seem to remember the chat when we appointed Maloney or Johnson (maybe both) was about attacking/exciting football. Maybe they didn’t feel we’d get that with him. He’d be my choice but remember there was a fair bit of criticism about the style of play under Ross and they maybe took that into consideration.

Cheers mate, still begs the question though, Maloney can promise this or that but to employ him with nil other than Belgium no2 experience and promises is amateur at best, or worst.

If Mcinness was interviewed I could see him at a different level, and thinking he would say this is what I do and Im pretty consistent and experienced

[blackpoolhibs]

So after today the only candidate standing from these shores is Malky McKay. :thumbsup:

[jeffers]

Cheers mate, still begs the question though, Maloney can promise this or that but to employ him with nil other than Belgium no2 experience and promises is amateur at best, or worst.

If Mcinness was interviewed I could see him at a different level, and thinking he would say this is what I do and Im pretty consistent and experienced

I think they felt he was a good coach and were hoping he’d step up as a manager similar to Stubbs and before that Mowbray. Though they listened to 7 hours of Johnson’s pish and thought he’d be a good appointment too :greengrin Hopefully in Brian McDermott we have someone who can see through the chat and get the right man in.

[bingo70]

Because that’s the bread and butter. That’s where he will be managing. Now isn’t the time for yet another experiment.,

Too much is being made of this experiment word. You’re talking about a guy who has played over 350 games in the lower leagues down south, been a manager for 2 years and a coach for three years before that.

We’re not talking about getting Ted Lasso in, it’s someone who knows how a football changing room works, he knows how British football works, he’s obviously got links to Scottish football too as he qualified to play for the under 21s. He’ll have no doubt kept tracks on how the central coast players have got on that moved to Scottish football as well.

We’re talking about bringing someone in who people who know him, say he’s a really exceptional manager.

I’m really excited about the prospect of him coming in, I think it would be a really ambitious move by the club and I’ll be pretty gutted if we go for. a Robinson or a McInnes now.

Respect everyone’s right to want the most boring candidate, I’m just pleased I don’t think like that 😂

[jeffers]

Too much is being made of this experiment word. You’re talking about a guy who has played over 350 games in the lower leagues down south, been a manager for 2 years and a coach for three years before that.

We’re not talking about getting Ted Lasso in, it’s someone who knows how a football changing room works, he knows how British football works, he’s obviously got links to Scottish football too as he qualified to play for the under 21s. He’ll have no doubt kept tracks on how the central coast players have got on that moved to Scottish football as well.

We’re talking about bringing someone in who people who know him, say he’s a really exceptional manager.

I’m really excited about the prospect of him coming in, I think it would be a really ambitious move by the club and I’ll be pretty gutted if we go for. a Robinson or a McInnes now.

Respect everyone’s right to want the most boring candidate, I’m just pleased I don’t think like that 😂

:agree: I’ll be disappointed if it’s not him now.

[Kato]

I hope it's going to be him [emoji1696]Same here. We have a raft of youngsters reaching an age where they will either breakthrough or not. He seems to have the neck of helping them graduate.

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[ScottB]

Cheers mate, still begs the question though, Maloney can promise this or that but to employ him with nil other than Belgium no2 experience and promises is amateur at best, or worst.

If Mcinness was interviewed I could see him at a different level, and thinking he would say this is what I do and Im pretty consistent and experienced

Why not? What experience did Mowbray, Collins or Stubbs have? I’m sure we considered experienced candidates alongside them and went with the gamble on potential.

If we interviewed both, at the time we decided Maloney was the better bet, he wasn’t, in the end, of course, but the idea that McInnes gets the job over any less experienced candidate by default isn’t right.

[Donegal Hibby]

Too much is being made of this experiment word. You’re talking about a guy who has played over 350 games in the lower leagues down south, been a manager for 2 years and a coach for three years before that.

We’re not talking about getting Ted Lasso in, it’s someone who knows how a football changing room works, he knows how British football works, he’s obviously got links to Scottish football too as he qualified to play for the under 21s. He’ll have no doubt kept tracks on how the central coast players have got on that moved to Scottish football as well.

We’re talking about bringing someone in who people who know him, say he’s a really exceptional manager.

I’m really excited about the prospect of him coming in, I think it would be a really ambitious move by the club and I’ll be pretty gutted if we go for. a Robinson or a McInnes now.

Respect everyone’s right to want the most boring candidate, I’m just pleased I don’t think like that 😂

Very good post :top marks . Totally agree some of names in the running for the Hibs job are totally uninspiring and dull . Only a couple I thought were exciting, Montgomery being one of them btw !

[JohnM1875]

Too much is being made of this experiment word. You’re talking about a guy who has played over 350 games in the lower leagues down south, been a manager for 2 years and a coach for three years before that.

We’re not talking about getting Ted Lasso in, it’s someone who knows how a football changing room works, he knows how British football works, he’s obviously got links to Scottish football too as he qualified to play for the under 21s. He’ll have no doubt kept tracks on how the central coast players have got on that moved to Scottish football as well.

We’re talking about bringing someone in who people who know him, say he’s a really exceptional manager.

I’m really excited about the prospect of him coming in, I think it would be a really ambitious move by the club and I’ll be pretty gutted if we go for. a Robinson or a McInnes now.

Respect everyone’s right to want the most boring candidate, I’m just pleased I don’t think like that 😂

Spot on! And won CCM their second ever league title.

Fair enough the A-League isn't as good as the Scottish Premiership, but I think people think it's much worse than it actually is. As seen by the influx of players coming over here and doing well lately. It's not too dissimilar to our league, especially at the top end.

Really hoping we announce Montgomery soon, won't call him 'Monty' till he's Hibernian manger, even then, I still might not haha.

[007]

I haven't heard what McGeady said but if he's backing Gray for at least a short-term deal I'd agree.

He wasn't.

[bingo70]

Spot on! And won CCM their second ever league title.

Fair enough the A-League isn't as good as the Scottish Premiership, but I think people think it's much worse than it actually is. As seen by the influx of players coming over here and doing well lately. It's not too dissimilar to our league, especially at the top end.

Really hoping we announce Montgomery soon, won't call him 'Monty' till he's Hibernian manger, even then, I still might not haha.

I don’t watch the league so can’t comment on the standard but a good man manager is a good man manager, regardless of the league and his players across there absolutely love the guy. I’ve seen tweets from media guys who know him say he’s absolutely exceptional and the results he’s had as a manager back up that reputation.

There’s no such thing as a safe bet when appointing a manager and that includes Robinson and McInnes, even if they do know Scottish football.

[The Captain....]

None of the names mentioned have really got me hoping it's them tbh.

Will be very disappointed if its Robinson tho..just don't see what he's done that would merit consideration. I'd rather we stuck with David Gray.



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[cabbageandribs1875]

Yogi talking about possible next manager Listen: Off the Ball with Stuart Cosgrove & Tam Cowan - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/66661023)

[The Harp]

So after today the only candidate standing from these shores is Malky McKay. :thumbsup:

I hope this sexist, racist isn't considered for the Hibs job.

[Onion]

Fair point actually.

I just feel now we’ve had an experiment with Maloney and LJ to a certain extent.

We’ve now spent some cash and we need some stability and results to back up the spending.

McInnes is a safe bet for a couple of seasons. It pains to me say that because I’m all for attacking football and taking a gamble but we’ve been there and done that, now it’s time for being pragmatic

Realistically, if McInnes was able to produce results while playing attractive, free-flowing football he wouldn't be anywhere near Hibs - he'd already be at Celtic or working at the top end of the English leagues. As ever, Hibs attract players and managers who are flawed or need developed.

At this point, I'm ready for a winning manager over one that attempts to entertain but loses games we should win. Had plenty of those.

[bingo70]

https://youtu.be/SKIdbgXIGzg?si=LXST7s5iJcBGCY1v

Interesting interview with Montgomery for anyone interested.

Boy asking the questions is hard work and I’ve had to skim listen to the first half, will listen to the rest later. Some really interesting stuff about his mindset though.

Guy interviewing him, certainly in no doubt he’s destined for the top.

[Eyrie]

McInnes remains my first choice but Montgomery's record down under winning the league with one of the lower budget teams makes him a very appealing candidate.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Next manager needs to bring dugout personality and football IQ. And be able to square go a lion. Or something.

On that basis, Montgomery.

[jeffers]

https://youtu.be/SKIdbgXIGzg?si=LXST7s5iJcBGCY1v

Interesting interview with Montgomery for anyone interested.

Boy asking the questions is hard work and I’ve had to skim listen to the first half, will listen to the rest later. Some really interesting stuff about his mindset though.

Guy interviewing him, certainly in no doubt he’s destined for the top.

Watched the first 15 minutes. Liking the guy already. Contrast that to the first time I listened to Johnson. I hope we are not in for disappointment when we appoint someone else.

[eastmainsmsh]

McInnes remains my first choice but Montgomery's record down under winning the league with one of the lower budget teams makes him a very appealing candidate.

Not knocking Montgomery or A league but is standard better than Scottish game

[JohnM1875]

https://youtu.be/SKIdbgXIGzg?si=LXST7s5iJcBGCY1v

Interesting interview with Montgomery for anyone interested.

Boy asking the questions is hard work and I’ve had to skim listen to the first half, will listen to the rest later. Some really interesting stuff about his mindset though.

Guy interviewing him, certainly in no doubt he’s destined for the top.

Cheers for that, listening now.

This is going to be JDT all over again for me eh? Really want Montgomery and we're going to end up with another dud.

Come on, Hibs! Get this done.

[Onion]

McInnes remains my first choice but Montgomery's record down under winning the league with one of the lower budget teams makes him a very appealing candidate.

Looks compelling, but why are others not clambering for Montgomery ? Holding out for Hibs in the SPFL ? The Hibs Board have discovered the secret sauce for unearthing hidden gems :greengrin ?

[Wilson]

Looks compelling, but why are others not clambering for Montgomery ? Holding out for Hibs in the SPFL ? The Hibs Board have discovered the secret sauce for unearthing hidden gems :greengrin ?

Why wasn't everyone clambering for Steve Clarke? Why didn't England notice Postecoglu before Celtic did? Why didn't Juventus go for Robbie Nielson?

Okay, scratch that last one.

[bingo70]

Cheers for that, listening now.

This is going to be JDT all over again for me eh? Really want Montgomery and we're going to end up with another dud.

Come on, Hibs! Get this done.

Thought the same thing 😂

I skim listened to the first 15 minutes of it cos the interviewer was unbearable, listened to the rest properly as I was enjoying it and more of what he was saying seemed relevant. I’ll be gutted if we don’t get this guy, if we don’t, he’ll go on to be an excellent manager elsewhere IMO.

[SlickShoes]

They didn’t win the league as such, they won the grand final, which is the end of season play off round between the top 8 teams.

Probably a bit pedantic but in terms of regular season football for all normal leagues, Melbourne city won that at a canter.

[Donegal Hibby]

Same here. We have a raft of youngsters reaching an age where they will either breakthrough or not. He seems to have the neck of helping them graduate.

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Seems to be a manager that gives young players a chance as well as improving players too . Didn't Cummings say he changed his life ? . Football's not to bad under him as well .
https://youtu.be/rdC6jXsPjzE?si=BT1LRffKj3c_m3F6

[Wilson]

Seems to be a manager that gives young players a chance as well as improving players too . Didn't Cummings say he changed his life ? . Football's not to bad under him as well .
https://youtu.be/rdC6jXsPjzE?si=BT1LRffKj3c_m3F6

To be fair though, Cummings thinks his life has changed when somebody opens the curtains.

[JohnM1875]

They didn’t win the league as such, they won the grand final, which is the end of season play off round between the top 8 teams.

Probably a bit pedantic but in terms of regular season football for all normal leagues, Melbourne city won that at a canter.

I get what you're saying, but that's very Hearts that.

Who is down as current A-League champions? CCM, who spanked Melbourne City 6-1 in the grand final.

[Up-the-slope]

I don’t watch the league so can’t comment on the standard but a good man manager is a good man manager, regardless of the league and his players across there absolutely love the guy. I’ve seen tweets from media guys who know him say he’s absolutely exceptional and the results he’s had as a manager back up that reputation.

There’s no such thing as a safe bet when appointing a manager and that includes Robinson and McInnes, even if they do know Scottish football.

Ange Postecoglou is a great example of that u17 / u20 / international manager / Aussie League / J -league / SPL & now EPL... and turning around past poor performance and getting success. And yet he avoids hyperbole and grandiose clams in his interviews, but does talk about togetherness and team ethic

[Onion]

Why wasn't everyone clambering for Steve Clarke? Why didn't England notice Postecoglu before Celtic did? Why didn't Juventus go for Robbie Nielson?

Okay, scratch that last one.

:greengrin. No question there are gems out there that have yet to be discovered (players and managers), just curious to why this Hibs Board would all of a sudden find the ability to unearth one. What could go wrong :greengrin ?

[bingo70]

:greengrin. No question there are gems out there that have yet to be discovered (players and managers), just curious to why this Hibs Board would all of a sudden find the ability to unearth one. What could go wrong :greengrin ?

Fwiw there have been other clubs who have tried to get Montgomery, Motherwell being one.

I am guessing now he’s won their championship it is a good time to approach him as he’s unlikely to every top that.

[Unseen work]

Too much is being made of this experiment word. You’re talking about a guy who has played over 350 games in the lower leagues down south, been a manager for 2 years and a coach for three years before that.

We’re not talking about getting Ted Lasso in, it’s someone who knows how a football changing room works, he knows how British football works, he’s obviously got links to Scottish football too as he qualified to play for the under 21s. He’ll have no doubt kept tracks on how the central coast players have got on that moved to Scottish football as well.

We’re talking about bringing someone in who people who know him, say he’s a really exceptional manager.

I’m really excited about the prospect of him coming in, I think it would be a really ambitious move by the club and I’ll be pretty gutted if we go for. a Robinson or a McInnes now.

Respect everyone’s right to want the most boring candidate, I’m just pleased I don’t think like that 😂


Lower leagues is very harsh! Played loads for them in the championship and also the premier league!

Other than that though I completely agree

[J-C]

As a former defender I presume he has been responsible for coaching our famous watertight defence. He's obviously doing a smashing job. I'm a great believer on hiring the best person for the job opposed to sentiment.


Spot on.

Gray was the attacking set piece coach which had us 2nd in the stats behind Celtic last season, he's never been involved in defensive coaching.

[Callum_62]

Gray was the attacking set piece coach which had us 2nd in the stats behind Celtic last season, he's never been involved in defensive coaching.What does Davie Gray know about attacking set pieces?

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[bingo70]

Lower leagues is very harsh! Played loads for them in the championship and also the premier league!

Other than that though I completely agree

I included the championship as lower league, because it’s a lower league 😜 😂

I didn’t realise until after I posted that he played in the premier league, couldn’t be arsed going back to change my post though.

[H18 SFR]

Gray was the attacking set piece coach which had us 2nd in the stats behind Celtic last season, he's never been involved in defensive coaching.

If he has ‘never’ been involved in defensive coaching then I’d be extremely worried why.

Clearly highlights his utter lack of depth in terms of experience in coaching. He’s clearly not ready to manage if three managers have never allowed him to be involved in defensive coaching. Something isn’t right there. Worrying.

[Greencore]

I've watched a few games of cmm on YouTube today and their football reminds me of Tony Mowbrays, when he was here. Montgomery's my first choice.

[J-C]

What does Davie Gray know about attacking set pieces?

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Enough to have the team 2nd best in the league last season stat wise, also credited with helping Campbell being more attack minded and getting in amongst the goals.

[Hibbyradge]

If he has ‘never’ been involved in defensive coaching then I’d be extremely worried why.

Clearly highlights his utter lack of depth in terms of experience in coaching. He’s clearly not ready to manage if three managers have never allowed him to be involved in defensive coaching. Something isn’t right there. Worrying.

That's funny.

[Hibbyradge]

Enough to have the team 2nd best in the league last season, also credited with helping Campbell being more attack minded and getting in amongst the goals.

Whoosh

[J-C]

If he has ‘never’ been involved in defensive coaching then I’d be extremely worried why.

Clearly highlights his utter lack of depth in terms of experience in coaching. He’s clearly not ready to manage if three managers have never allowed him to be involved in defensive coaching. Something isn’t right there. Worrying.

Wasn't involved in defence last season, that was probably McAllister and we've seen how disorganised it's been for the whole time Johnson was here but Johnson didn't spend much time on defending, he thought our attacking 3 would blast everyone away.

[jeffers]

Enough to have the team 2nd best in the league last season, also credited with helping Campbell being more attack minded and getting in amongst the goals.

Amazes me the number of people who give SDG stick without knowing what his role at the club actually is. Even when it’s pointed out it then gets questioned why he isn’t doing something else.

[J-C]

Amazes me the number of people who give SDG stick without knowing what his role at the club actually is. Even when it’s pointed out it then gets questioned why he isn’t doing something else.

:agree:

He does what the manager asks him to do, we seen how better organised the team was on Thursday.

[easty]

Wasn't involved in defence last season, that was probably McAllister and we've seen how disorganised it's been for the whole time Johnson was here but Johnson didn't spend much time on defending, he thought our attacking 3 would blast everyone away.

Our attacking 3 should blast everyone else away.

It's the fact that our "plan" for getting them to do that was just - hump it up to them and hope for the best - that was the problem

[Unseen work]

I've watched a few games of cmm on YouTube today and their football reminds me of Tony Mowbrays, when he was here. Montgomery's my first choice.

My only fear is that the defences in most games almost appear non existent. Although I’m sure people that thing the SPFL think the same 🤣

I think the A-League seems very gung ho, which I love. Ange was very successful at doing it over hear and probably played the best football I’ve seen, whilst I don’t know if Montgomery is the exact same style wise with the inverted full backs I hope he manages to organise a defence too

Ange’s team won the ball back very quick with pressing, but at Celtic he also had CCV etc who are brilliant.

Would our defence cope with the counters as effectively?

But from what I’ve seen and heard Montgomery is the man I want!

[babahibs]

I’m absolutely outraged at something and it really shows that Hibs are probably at fault somehow.
This has to change or it will be very worrying.
:hilarious

[raeburnhibs]

I’m absolutely outraged at something and it really shows that Hibs are probably at fault somehow.
This has to change or it will be very worrying.

Father Ted vibes

[scm70nyd1973]

I’m absolutely outraged at something and it really shows that Hibs are probably at fault somehow.
This has to change or it will be very worrying.

I’m still outraged that Albert Kidd never got a hat trick in ‘86 - WTF was that all about 🤬 I’ve never got over it and never will ☹️

[GreenGray]

They didn’t win the league as such, they won the grand final, which is the end of season play off round between the top 8 teams.

Probably a bit pedantic but in terms of regular season football for all normal leagues, Melbourne city won that at a canter.

If anything that makes him more appealing, Hibs will never have a chance at winning the league. Best chance of silverware is through a knockout cup competition.


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[Callum_62]

Enough to have the team 2nd best in the league last season stat wise, also credited with helping Campbell being more attack minded and getting in amongst the goals.[emoji1783]

Nah I'm not buying that

Davie Gray (92) couldn't possibly know anything about attacking set plays...

[emoji3166]

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[Alfred E Newman]

If Montgomery came and turned the club round he would be poached away to greater things down south within a very short time and we would be back to square one. We need someone experienced who is not going to jump ship at the first opportunity.

[Callum_62]

If Montgomery came and turned the club round he would be poached away to greater things down south within a very short time and we would be back to square one. We need someone experienced who is not going to jump ship at the first opportunity.We actually want to have managers that are poached to a higher level

It means we are being successful

To almost no manager hibs should be the peak

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[scm70nyd1973]

What does Davie Gray know about attacking set pieces?

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Got lucky once - changed our lives mind you 🤭

[HendoDelivered]

If Montgomery came and turned the club round he would be poached away to greater things down south within a very short time and we would be back to square one. We need someone experienced who is not going to jump ship at the first opportunity.

Any manager, old or young who comes in and does a top job will be poached

[pacorosssco]

:agree:

He does what the manager asks him to do, we seen how better organised the team was on Thursday.

Correct whatever he coached or taught if manager and staff above say do this then that's out window . We have all worked for a manager who ignores everything to do it his own way.

[Broken Gnome]

If Montgomery came and turned the club round he would be poached away to greater things down south within a very short time and we would be back to square one. We need someone experienced who is not going to jump ship at the first opportunity.

Much easier to succession plan there. We're always making changes from weak positions these days - much better if we're at a level where we're almost expecting to recruit rather than desperately trying to avoid another payoff because of a failing team/manager.

[Dalianwanda]

If Montgomery came and turned the club round he would be poached away to greater things down south within a very short time and we would be back to square one. We need someone experienced who is not going to jump ship at the first opportunity.

So we want someone that’s good but not good enough that anyone else wants them? or we want someone who has no desire to eventually coach at a higher level….should be an interesting bunch of candidates

[scm70nyd1973]

If Montgomery came and turned the club round he would be poached away to greater things down south within a very short time and we would be back to square one. We need someone experienced who is not going to jump ship at the first opportunity.

But we’d enjoy the ride and he’d leave the club in a good place - mibbies get some compo anaw

[Unseen work]

If Montgomery came and turned the club round he would be poached away to greater things down south within a very short time and we would be back to square one. We need someone experienced who is not going to jump ship at the first opportunity.

I’d LOVE for us to be doing well enough for another team to want our manager.

[pacorosssco]

Much easier to succession plan there. We're always making changes from weak positions these days - much better if we're at a level where we're almost expecting to recruit rather than desperately trying to avoid another payoff because of a failing team/manager.

Agree need club model players and manager the just find others that fit it. Most epl teams who last outside big teams who stay long term prem have that until they don't off course but we should work to model not rip up start again all the time

[Kato]

If he has ‘never’ been involved in defensive coaching then I’d be extremely worried why.

Clearly highlights his utter lack of depth in terms of experience in coaching. He’s clearly not ready to manage if three managers have never allowed him to be involved in defensive coaching. Something isn’t right there. Worrying.For defenders in coaching its sometimes a case of poacher turned gamekeeper, or vice versa.

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[04Sauzee]

If Montgomery came and turned the club round he would be poached away to greater things down south within a very short time and we would be back to square one. We need someone experienced who is not going to jump ship at the first opportunity.

Yup we should definitely go for the worst candidate that won't get poached and we have a better chance of sacking.

[Iain G]

For defenders in coaching its sometimes a case of poacher turned gamekeeper, or vice versa.

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If we follow this logic, Ally McCoist would be an amazing goalie coach, as he would be a poacher turned goalkeeper 😁

[jeffers]

If Montgomery came and turned the club round he would be poached away to greater things down south within a very short time and we would be back to square one. We need someone experienced who is not going to jump ship at the first opportunity.

It would be a refreshing change. Fed up with appointing managers we end up sacking ‘cos they are pish. While I understand your sentiment what you are in effect wanting is that we give the job to someone who is decent but not great. Not for me.

[Alfred E Newman]

Yup we should definitely go for the worst candidate that won't get poached and we have a better chance of sacking.

That’s not what I am saying.

[Forza Fred]

They didn’t win the league as such, they won the grand final, which is the end of season play off round between the top 8 teams.

Probably a bit pedantic but in terms of regular season football for all normal leagues, Melbourne city won that at a canter.

Finishing top of the League is not the main prize in Oz.

Winning the Grand Final is…..and the Grand Final winners are the Champions of Australia.

Different concept than Europe I know, but if you asked ‘Who won it in 2005’ the answer would be the Grand Final winner…..the league games are the pathway to the Grand Final….although the team who finish top do get bestowed the title Premiers ……..

Plus…and don’t want to get bogged down in detail…but the straight forward play every team the same number of times in the league doesn’t strictly apply either…..you will find some teams play some teams more than others…..all to do with generating interest.

Seems wacky to Scottish fans, but Grand Finals are the cultural norm here in just about every sport.

[jeffers]

Finishing top of the League is not the main prize in Oz.

Winning the Grand Final is…..and the Grand Final winners are the Champions of Australia.

Different concept than Europe I know, but if you asked ‘Who won it in 2005’ the answer would be the Grand Final winner…..the league games are the pathway to the Grand Final….although the team who finish top do get bestowed the title Premiers ……..

Plus…and don’t want to get bogged doe bogged down in detail…but the straight forward play every team the same number of times in the league doesn’t strictly apply either…..you will find some teams play some teams more than others…..all to do with generating interest.

Seems wacky to Scottish fans, but cultural norm here in just about every sport.

I wish we did something similar.

[JohnM1875]

Finishing top of the League is not the main prize in Oz.

Winning the Grand Final is…..and the Grand Final winners are the Champions of Australia.

Different concept than Europe I know, but if you asked ‘Who won it in 2005’ the answer would be the Grand Final winner…..the league games are the pathway to the Grand Final….although the team who finish top do get bestowed the title Premiers ……..

Plus…and don’t want to get bogged doe bogged down in detail…but the straight forward play every team the same number of times in the league doesn’t strictly apply either…..you will find some teams play some teams more than others…..all to do with generating interest.

Seems wacky to Scottish fans, but Grand Finals are the cultural norm here in just about every sport.

Wish we could do that here and just let them play each other every week.

[pacorosssco]

Finishing top of the League is not the main prize in Oz.

Winning the Grand Final is…..and the Grand Final winners are the Champions of Australia.

Different concept than Europe I know, but if you asked ‘Who won it in 2005’ the answer would be the Grand Final winner…..the league games are the pathway to the Grand Final….although the team who finish top do get bestowed the title Premiers ……..

Plus…and don’t want to get bogged down in detail…but the straight forward play every team the same number of times in the league doesn’t strictly apply either…..you will find some teams play some teams more than others…..all to do with generating interest.

Seems wacky to Scottish fans, but Grand Finals are the cultural norm here in just about every sport.

Bring it on finish in top 4 then play for League. Genuine chance upset apple cart at end of season

[Donegal Hibby]

If Montgomery came and turned the club round he would be poached away to greater things down south within a very short time and we would be back to square one. We need someone experienced who is not going to jump ship at the first opportunity.

If Montgomery is appointed I hope he does turn the club around and we're winning regularly and finish 3rd with maybe a trophy too . He will then be poached away though hopefully he leaves us with a much better place than we have been the last few years. An experienced manager is just as likely to jump ship as a inexperienced one if a bigger club makes a move too .

[NAE NOOKIE]

https://youtu.be/SKIdbgXIGzg?si=LXST7s5iJcBGCY1v

Interesting interview with Montgomery for anyone interested.

Boy asking the questions is hard work and I’ve had to skim listen to the first half, will listen to the rest later. Some really interesting stuff about his mindset though.

Guy interviewing him, certainly in no doubt he’s destined for the top.

Just watched that. I'm not going to go all gushy over a 45 minute interview and say we have to get this guy. But he simply seems like a straight talker, no BS no talking in riddles, just says it like he sees it. The vibe I got was this is a guy who demands 100% from his players, but also that he's a guy players would want to give everything for.

You cant help thinking that if the young players at Hibs watch this they will be praying he gets the job because it sound like the biggest thing he feels he can achieve is to get youngsters into his first team squad and that he's a man who is capable of making them think they are worth that place.

Every manager is a risk ..... but from that interview perhaps this guy is a risk worth taking :aok:

[Forza Fred]

If Montgomery came and turned the club round he would be poached away to greater things down south within a very short time and we would be back to square one. We need someone experienced who is not going to jump ship at the first opportunity.

This is the second post along these lines I’ve read on here and it really makes me shake my head.

It reads as if we shouldn’t get a successful coach, because if we do, then other clubs might notice and they’ll poach him.
Better to stick with a not very good coach, because he might not be successful, but at least he’d stay with the club for longer.

[Eyrie]

Finishing top of the League is not the main prize in Oz.

Winning the Grand Final is…..and the Grand Final winners are the Champions of Australia.

Different concept than Europe I know, but if you asked ‘Who won it in 2005’ the answer would be the Grand Final winner…..the league games are the pathway to the Grand Final….although the team who finish top do get bestowed the title Premiers ……..

Plus…and don’t want to get bogged down in detail…but the straight forward play every team the same number of times in the league doesn’t strictly apply either…..you will find some teams play some teams more than others…..all to do with generating interest.

Seems wacky to Scottish fans, but Grand Finals are the cultural norm here in just about every sport.

It's the same in the NFL and URC so I don't find it wacky.

And as another poster pointed out earlier, success in that type of competition suggests he would do well in cup competitions which are our only realistic hope of a trophy.

[JohnM1875]

Just watched that. I'm not going to go all gushy over a 45 minute interview and say we have to get this guy. But he simply seems like a straight talker, no BS no talking in riddles, just says it like he sees it. The vibe I got was this is a guy who demands 100% from his players, but also that he's a guy players would want to give everything for.

You cant help thinking that if the young players at Hibs watch this they will be praying he gets the job because it sound like the biggest thing he feels he can achieve is to get youngsters into his first team squad and that he's a man who is capable of making them think they are worth that place.

Every manager is a risk ..... but from that interview perhaps this guy is a risk worth taking :aok:

I am. He absolutely sounds like the man we need right now. I'll be gutted if he isn't our next manager

[ancient hibee]

Just watched that. I'm not going to go all gushy over a 45 minute interview and say we have to get this guy. But he simply seems like a straight talker, no BS no talking in riddles, just says it like he sees it. The vibe I got was this is a guy who demands 100% from his players, but also that he's a guy players would want to give everything for.

You cant help thinking that if the young players at Hibs watch this they will be praying he gets the job because it sound like the biggest thing he feels he can achieve is to get youngsters into his first team squad and that he's a man who is capable of making them think they are worth that place.

Every manager is a risk ..... but from that interview perhaps this guy is a risk worth taking :aok:

If they're not worth a place he'll be out the door in five minutes as the fans tear into them.

[Forza Fred]

https://youtu.be/SKIdbgXIGzg?si=LXST7s5iJcBGCY1v

Interesting interview with Montgomery for anyone interested.

Boy asking the questions is hard work and I’ve had to skim listen to the first half, will listen to the rest later. Some really interesting stuff about his mindset though.

Guy interviewing him, certainly in no doubt he’s destined for the top.

Hadn’t seen that before…and yes the guy asking the questions takes longer to ask them than Nick takes to answer them…but……not a bad intro for those who don’t know him..

Solid working class background
Supportive mother
Dealing with the thought of rejection
Overcoming the adversity of illness
Serving his time..getting the teas from the service centre for the older players
Playing against Ronaldo
And his general straight forward love for football.

It’s a few months old, but certainly worth watching.

[007]

If Montgomery came and turned the club round he would be poached away to greater things down south within a very short time and we would be back to square one. We need someone experienced who is not going to jump ship at the first opportunity.

Backwards logic.

[S4uzee]

Pardew could be announced as soon as Thursday

[Greenworld]

Pardew could be announced as soon as ThursdayLol no he wont

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[LaMotta]

Pardew could be announced as soon as Thursday

Just seen him in the Burke and Hare throwing 50 pound notes around like confetti :agree:

[HoboHarry]

Pardew could be announced as soon as Thursday

So could my wife but both are equally doubtful.

[vuefrom1875]

If Montgomery is appointed I hope he does turn the club around and we're winning regularly and finish 3rd with maybe a trophy too . He will then be poached away though hopefully he leaves us with a much better place than we have been the last few years. An experienced manager is just as likely to jump ship as a inexperienced one if a bigger club makes a move too .

Backed him 6 days ago 20/1....👌

[ScottB]

Personally I’d love to see Hibs managers, coaches, players etc move on to the highest level they can; McGinn, Doig, Fletcher etc amazing stuff.

Most folk are either going to succeed with us and leave, or fail and leave. It’s a pretty narrow window to be good enough to stay but not so good you can leave, I guess a Hanlon sort of deal. Finding that in a manager seems even harder than a player, realistically speaking.

A constant turnover is to be expected and needs to be planned for. As long as we get better at spotting replacements it’s not a big problem.

[neil7908]

Out of the names mentioned, Montgomery is the one that most excites me. I've never really understood why we'd go for Robinson (is his record that exceptional?) and have always been put off McInnes after watching his Aberdeen side kick us off the park and time waste. Alsol , a wee look at the league table and Killie don't seem to be doing particularly well.

I like the idea of someone early in their career who is on an upward path but also with a bit of experience, and has actually won a trophy. The fact his teams seem to play good football is also a huge plus.

[04Sauzee]

Pardew could be announced as soon as Thursday

Read something earlier in the thread and didn't believe it then and still don't believe it.

[bordergreen]

Hadn’t seen that before…and yes the guy asking the questions takes longer to ask them than Nick takes to answer them…but……not a bad intro for those who don’t know him..

Solid working class background
Supportive mother
Dealing with the thought of rejection
Overcoming the adversity of illness
Serving his time..getting the teas from the service centre for the older players
Playing against Ronaldo
And his general straight forward love for football.

It’s a few months old, but certainly worth watching.

I really liked his passion. All about the effort, then playing to your strengths. You will hear those things as sound bites from lots of coaches, but he really sounds like he means it. Seems like he would build a great team atmosphere, and that his enthusiasm would rub off on the players. Big emphasis on youth too.

I’m sold. Come on Hibs, sign him up.

[SHODAN]

I’d LOVE for us to be doing well enough for another team to want our manager.

Yeah, bizarre logic from the previous post lmao

[Wilson]

Yeah, bizarre logic from the previous post lmao

Yes. Bizarre. You don't worry about bringing on successful players or coaches and losing them. You build a culture of success and plan ahead for such eventualities in the background.

[WhileTheChief..]

Still not seeing the appeal of Montgomery, sorry!

I don't think he's got the experience we need and there's nothing about him that jumps out as being a wee bit special. Has he done any better than say Robinson or Nelson in the SPFL for example?

No idea how his name came up in the first place or if there's actually been any interest from Hibs. Is it mostly fan chat online that has him as our no1 target?

Glad that we're looking at lots of potential targets, if indeed we are, but hoping some other names will appear if we're not in for Lennon or McInnes.

[Since452]

Montgomery concerns me a bit. Would be another huge gamble like Maloney. At least Johnson managed hundreds of games at a level the same or better than the Scottish Premiership. Really think we need to go for a tried and tested Premiership manager this time whos going to make us difficult to play against even if the football is more industrial. We're far too easy to beat and doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out how to do it. The attack at the expense of defend philosophy didn't work with Lee Johnson ultimately. I still believe we have a good squad that could do well if set up a bit more conservatively.

[Heisenberg]

Montgomery concerns me a bit. Would be another huge gamble like Maloney. At least Johnson managed hundreds of games at a level the same or better than the Scottish Premiership. Really think we need to go for a tried and tested Premiership manager this time even whos going to make us difficult to play against even if the football is more industrial. We're far too easy to beat and doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out how to do it. The attack at the expense of defend philosophy didn't work with Lee Johnson ultimately.

It would be absolutely nothing like Maloney? Montgomery has managed a first team for 60 games or something and in that time has won the biggest domestic honour in Australia with one of the smallest clubs. We need a manager who can setup a team properly. That doesn’t immediately mean industrial defensive football.

[J-C]

Montgomery concerns me a bit. Would be another huge gamble like Maloney. At least Johnson managed hundreds of games at a level the same or better than the Scottish Premiership. Really think we need to go for a tried and tested Premiership manager this time whos going to make us difficult to play against even if the football is more industrial. We're far too easy to beat and doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out how to do it. The attack at the expense of defend philosophy didn't work with Lee Johnson ultimately. I still believe we have a good squad that could do well if set up a bit more conservatively.

Johnson racked up his 500th game last Sunday and he was a terrible appointment, Mowbray and Stubbs had only coached U21 teams and they were 2 of the best coaches we've had, Collins had very little experience and won us a cup (although with Mowbray's team).

[Keepthefaith]

@whilethechief Experience like butcher had for instance?? Don't think Lennon is the answer either or Robinson for that matter. IMO the club will look at character/ values to be aligned with DoF and while we have a DoF I'm not sure masses of experience in Scottish footy is needed.

Let's face it, getting the right manager is a lottery...some folk seem to just fit with a club too. Others get a good reaction but then can't build a team. The English championship is a good example, Warnock ( loads of experience) saves clubs but Huddersfield struggling again. Carrick was superb at Boro last season but bottom this... Kieran McKenna (Ipswich) no previous management experience yet took them up from league 1 and now in top 2. Wagner not wanted by Norwich fans due to failure elsewhere yet doing well and importantly playing good football.

I'm pleased we're casting the net wide and have no worries about looking at the likes of Montgomery if his values and philosophy are aligned with the club. Be interesting to see folks views if Killie and st mirren start to fall apart...

[LaMotta]

Just seen Pardew and Ben Kensell going into Indigo Sun tanning studio on Leith Walk. Make of that what you will.

[BoomtownHibees]

At least Johnson managed hundreds of games at a level the same or better than the Scottish Premiership

And that worked out well

[Pete70]

Father Ted vibes

Down with this sort of thing 😀

[Andymac85]

Down with this sort of thing 😀

Careful now

[Hibbyradge]

As long as it's not him.

[Northernhibee]

“I hear you’re a Hibby now, father”

[Onion]

If Montgomery is appointed I hope he does turn the club around and we're winning regularly and finish 3rd with maybe a trophy too . He will then be poached away though hopefully he leaves us with a much better place than we have been the last few years. An experienced manager is just as likely to jump ship as a inexperienced one if a bigger club makes a move too .

Given the same level of success at Hibs, we've a better chance of hanging onto an experienced manager who's operated at a higher level than a young up and coming one. That's one of the appeals of Lennon over Montgomery. If Montgomery did well at Hibs you just know Celtic would come sniffing.

[Hibby-G]

Scott Brown has left Fleetwood with immediate effect.

[JohnM1875]

Scott Brown has left Fleetwood with immediate effect.

Sacked.

No chance he'll get the job, surely.

[Centre Hawf]

Scott Brown has left Fleetwood with immediate effect.

I’ve said before but I’m happy to take him. If anything at the moment he’s currently my number one shout out of the favourites being linked.

[BoomtownHibees]

Surely won’t get the Hibs job after being sacked done there

[JohnM1875]

I’ve said before but I’m happy to take him. If anything at the moment he’s currently my number one shout out of the favourites being linked.

He's just been sacked from Fleetwood Town for a brutal start.

[Springbank]

He's just been sacked from Fleetwood Town for a brutal start.

potential to join the coaching staff?

[BoomtownHibees]

potential to join the coaching staff?

Lenny’s assistant

[cannastar]

broonie right man at right time winner through and through cmon hibs no brainer here. fleetwood were punching above their weight where they are wouldnt have been able to take them much further anyway. back to where you began scott make yourself a hero at easter road.

[Centre Hawf]

He's just been sacked from Fleetwood Town for a brutal start.

He done well last year and on a poor budget, and the owner of Fleetwood has just been jailed for 10+ years on fraud. He was on a hiding to nothing this season with them regardless.

[IanM]

broonie right man at right time winner through and through cmon hibs no brainer here. fleetwood were punching above their weight where they are wouldnt have been able to take them much further anyway. back to where you began scott make yourself a hero at easter road.

Windup, surely

[Hibees1973]

It's really not that complicated.

We either go for the tried and tested in Scotland. McInnes or Lennon. Kind of know what we are getting with these two. Should get us into the top 5 consistently and appearances at Hampden. MacKay & Robinson not the calibre of a Hibs manager.

Or we go for the exotic and potentially more excitement. Continental managers who had/have their clubs punching above their weight. Kjetil Knutsen of Bodo Glimt or Karel Geraerts who was at Union Saint Gilloise. These guys may cost a bit more but the Gordon's can splash some money. If they have any ambition this is who they should be aiming for.

Don't want someone like Montgomery, who really has not proven himself yet and represents more of a risk.

If we don't get any of the four I've mentioned I will be very disappointed.

[.Sean.]

broonie right man at right time winner through and through cmon hibs no brainer here. fleetwood were punching above their weight where they are wouldnt have been able to take them much further anyway. back to where you began scott make yourself a hero at easter road.
😂😂😂

He can coach the reserves or something like that at his beloved Celtic.

[Stanton Spence]

broonie right man at right time winner through and through cmon hibs no brainer here. fleetwood were punching above their weight where they are wouldnt have been able to take them much further anyway. back to where you began scott make yourself a hero at easter road.

Surely a wind up and you left the smiley face out?

[Hibbyradge]

It's really not that complicated.

We either go for the tried and tested in Scotland. McInnes or Lennon. Kind of know what we are getting with these two. Should get us into the top 5 consistently and appearances at Hampden. MacKay & Robinson not the calibre of a Hibs manager.

Or we go for the exotic and potentially more excitement. Continental managers who had/have their clubs punching above their weight. Kjetil Knutsen of Bodo Glimt or Karel Geraerts who was at Union Saint Gilloise. These guys may cost a bit more but the Gordon's can splash some money. If they have any ambition this is who they should be aiming for.

Don't want someone like Montgomery, who really has not proven himself yet and represents more of a risk.

If we don't get any of the four I've mentioned I will be very disappointed.

It might complicate things a tad if none of them want to manage Hibs.

[Heisenberg]

It's really not that complicated.

We either go for the tried and tested in Scotland. McInnes or Lennon. Kind of know what we are getting with these two. Should get us into the top 5 consistently and appearances at Hampden. MacKay & Robinson not the calibre of a Hibs manager.

Or we go for the exotic and potentially more excitement. Continental managers who had/have their clubs punching above their weight. Kjetil Knutsen of Bodo Glimt or Karel Geraerts who was at Union Saint Gilloise. These guys may cost a bit more but the Gordon's can splash some money. If they have any ambition this is who they should be aiming for.

Don't want someone like Montgomery, who really has not proven himself yet and represents more of a risk.

If we don't get any of the four I've mentioned I will be very disappointed.

Knutsen that couldn’t reach an agreement with Ajax quite recently? Think you need to reign in your expectations a bit.

[flash]

It's really not that complicated.

We either go for the tried and tested in Scotland. McInnes or Lennon. Kind of know what we are getting with these two. Should get us into the top 5 consistently and appearances at Hampden. MacKay & Robinson not the calibre of a Hibs manager.

Or we go for the exotic and potentially more excitement. Continental managers who had/have their clubs punching above their weight. Kjetil Knutsen of Bodo Glimt or Karel Geraerts who was at Union Saint Gilloise. These guys may cost a bit more but the Gordon's can splash some money. If they have any ambition this is who they should be aiming for.

Don't want someone like Montgomery, who really has not proven himself yet and represents more of a risk.

If we don't get any of the four I've mentioned I will be very disappointed.

Prepare to be disappointed.

[Borderhibbie76]

I’ve said before but I’m happy to take him. If anything at the moment he’s currently my number one shout out of the favourites being linked.

U want a manager sacked by Fleetwood...I despair

[Donegal Hibby]

broonie right man at right time winner through and through cmon hibs no brainer here. fleetwood were punching above their weight where they are wouldnt have been able to take them much further anyway. back to where you began scott make yourself a hero at easter road.

1 point from a possible 18 this year doesn't actually suggest he's a winner through and through as a manager though .

[He's here!]

😂😂😂

He can coach the reserves or something like that at his beloved Celtic.

He actually grew up a Rangers fan.

Fabulous player for us but that doesn't mean he'd be a good manager.

[MWHIBBIES]

broonie right man at right time winner through and through cmon hibs no brainer here. fleetwood were punching above their weight where they are wouldnt have been able to take them much further anyway. back to where you began scott make yourself a hero at easter road.

When did this winner last win a match?

[H18 SFR]

I’ve said before but I’m happy to take him. If anything at the moment he’s currently my number one shout out of the favourites being linked.

He has less than 1.2 points per match as a manger. If he brought that standard we’d finish on average 9/10th. Surely something else is ruling your head here?

[Since452]

When did this winner last win a match?

I think Hearts had recently won the league cup

[HendoDelivered]

Folk happy to take Scott Brown as new manager 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 scary stuff

[Centre Hawf]

U want a manager sacked by Fleetwood...I despair

Some people want a manager sacked by Aberdeen. Some want one sacked by a Cypriot team. Others want someone who has never managed outside Australia. You can pick holes in any of our targets at this point.

[Slim Shady]

Folk happy to take Scott Brown as new manager 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 scary stuff

Neil Lennon

Scott Brown

Steven Whittaker

Sir David Gray

Darren McGregor

With the current squad and investment to come.

That’s a winning combination.

They all know what it takes to win in Scottish Football

[Since90+2]

Some people want a manager sacked by Aberdeen. Some want one sacked by a Cypriot team. Others want someone who has never managed outside Australia. You can pick holes in any of our targets at this point.

Not really. Scott Brown has achieved absolutely nothing as a manager, the others mentioned have.

[Allant1981]

When did this winner last win a match?

29th July,6 defeats and 1 draw after that

[Aldo]

Why do some folk think it necessary that a manager must have a knowledge of Scottish football.

I take it that would rule out Klopp, Pep, Jose and a plethora of other managers should they apply.

[Centre Hawf]

Not really. Scott Brown has achieved absolutely nothing as a manager, the others mentioned have.

Neither had Tony Mowbray or Alan Stubbs. I can accept people don’t fancy him in comparison btw, I just don’t think it’s as outlandish as some people make out.

[JohnM1875]

Neither had Tony Mowbray or Alan Stubbs. I can accept people don’t fancy him in comparison btw, I just don’t think it’s as outlandish as some people make out.

The only reason he's mentioned is because he came through at Hibs. If he'd never been here and just got sacked by Fleetwood there's not a chance anyone would want him.

[Hibs90]

Hibs appointing a manager who has just been sacked from Fleetwood town.

Absolutely NO chance.

[Sylar]

Lennon in the studio for the Glasgow Derby today. Didn’t clock him being asked about the vacancy in the build up coverage?

Be surprised if it doesn’t come up at some point.

[Centre Hawf]

The only reason he's mentioned is because he came through at Hibs. If he'd never been here and just got sacked by Fleetwood there's not a chance anyone would want him.

Absolutely. The same way people have mentioned Marv (achieved nothing yet) or SDG. I think he done well last season and would be a good appointment for us personally at this point. I think he could galvanise people and the club because of the type of person he is. He’s acutely aware of Scottish football and know when to play football and when to grind it out. I’d 100 percent take him over some of the other names being mentioned. Lennon being just one.

[Scorrie]

Lennon in the studio for the Glasgow Derby today. Didn’t clock him being asked about the vacancy in the build up coverage?

Be surprised if it doesn’t come up at some point.

The body language between him and Boyd will be interesting!

[JohnM1875]

Absolutely. The same way people have mentioned Marv (achieved nothing yet) or SDG. I think he done well last season and would be a good appointment for us personally at this point. I think he could galvanise people and the club because of the type of person he is. He’s acutely aware of Scottish football and know when to play football and when to grind it out. I’d 100 percent take him over some of the other names being mentioned. Lennon being just one.

Fair enough, mate. Everyone has their own reasons why they do or don't want a manager I suppose.

[Centre Hawf]

Fair enough, mate. Everyone has their own reasons why they do or don't want a manager I suppose.

Aye I think that’s it. We all want different things from our manager at the moment. Which makes this a difficult appointment for the club. Don’t think any one name will appease everyone.

[1875Sean]

Neither had Tony Mowbray or Alan Stubbs. I can accept people don’t fancy him in comparison btw, I just don’t think it’s as outlandish as some people make out.

I think if Mowbray or Stubbs have a similar record that Brown had at a lower league club they wouldn’t have got the job

[Scorrie]

McInnes could be heading to Ibrox at this rate as I reckon Beale is on a shoogly peg

[Iain G]

McInnes could be heading to Ibrox at this rate as I reckon Beale is on a shoogly peg

With Lemmy in the opposite dug out come thr new year derby if Rodgers doesnt get his act together

[JohnM1875]

With Lemmy in the opposite dug out come thr new year derby if Rodgers doesnt get his act together

No sure Lemmy's got it in him anymore.

[Iain G]

No sure Lemmy's got it in him anymore.

He can dig himself out, he is ace with a spade...

[Scorrie]

He can dig himself out, he is ace with a spade...

We have a winner! 👏👏👏

[Exuberance1875]

Every manager has their risks, there is no perfect appointment. At this stage it’s about backing whoever comes in, while we all have our ideals in our head, we cannot turn our backs on them if the decision is made to appoint someone we don’t want. Perhaps I’m wrong, it’s just my opinion

[Skol]

I think if Mowbray or Stubbs have a similar record that Brown had at a lower league club they wouldn’t have got the job

I would agree with that. Thing is with both, but Mowbray in particular you realised quickly they were good man managers and cou” get people playing for them. I am not convinced brown has that particular skill.

[Keith_M]

U want a manager sacked by Fleetwood...I despair


Yeah, I'm a bit confused about that as well

[I'm_cabbaged]

He can dig himself out, he is ace with a spade...

That’s just overkill

[Onion]

Folk happy to take Scott Brown as new manager 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 scary stuff

This place as mad a box of frogs at times :greengrin

[heretoday]

Can Scott Brown still play?

[LancsHibs]

U want a manager sacked by Fleetwood...I despair

Not quite as simplistic as that, that are circumstances at Fleetwood why that club are sitting second bottom and to why Brown has been ‘relieved of his duties’ that aren’t entirely performance related

[bod]

The only reason he's mentioned is because he came through at Hibs. If he'd never been here and just got sacked by Fleetwood there's not a chance anyone would want him.

Agree

[Alfred E Newman]

Yes. Bizarre. You don't worry about bringing on successful players or coaches and losing them. You build a culture of success and plan ahead for such eventualities in the background.

I don't see how wanting a bit stability is bizarre. We certainly don't have a culture of success, we'll never get that changing managers every few months, and Montgomery would be yet another gamble.

[Lago]

I don't see how wanting a bit stability is bizarre. We certainly don't have a culture of success, we'll never get that changing managers every few months, and Montgomery would be yet another gamble.
Keep digging your doing well :greengrin

[CapitalGreen]

I don't see how wanting a bit stability is bizarre. We certainly don't have a culture of success, we'll never get that changing managers every few months, and Montgomery would be yet another gamble.

An appointment which wouldn’t be a gamble doesn’t exist. There is no sure thing when appointing a manager.

[Silky]

U want a manager sacked by Fleetwood...I despair

Most managers get sacked from somewhere. Sheffield United took on a guy who was sacked by Hibs. He's not doing too bad.

[HoboHarry]

Michael Beale might be available soon :greengrin

[Mainstandman]

Remind why Kettlewell isn’t being talked about?

[DIXIHIBS]

Michael Beale might be available soon :greengrin

Naismith might be available soon...

[Hibees1973]

Remind why Kettlewell isn’t being talked about?

His hair do.

[Billy Whizz]

Remind why Kettlewell isn’t being talked about?

He’s probably want to bring his right hand man with him, ex Hearts Manager Stephen Frail

[JohnM1875]

His hair do.

Agreed.

[Onion]

Way Hearts and Huns are going, McInnes will soon have his pick of jobs and the Hibs debate will become simpler.

[ScottB]

Would rather give Gray a shot than Brown, if we’re going to gamble on an ex player may as well go with the ones already in the building.

[pepe]

Remind why Kettlewell isn’t being talked about?

Watching his Motherwell team defend like a animals right now, could turn us into some team

[Hibs90]

Give it to SDG until the end of the season.

Absolute night and day from Johnson’s side this. Tactically aware, set up properly. Defending well.

[GreenGray]

I wouldn’t mind Gray getting it, in fact I’d probably love it.

I just wonder if the board will look at how Robson and Naismith are getting on and be put off, couldn’t blame them either


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[Vault Boy]

Gray needs booted too, part of our failure etc etc

[jeffers]

Imagine if we’d let Gray coach the defence….Not saying he should get the job, but hopefully this performance ends all the unfair chat about his coaching ability.

[Bridge hibs]

Gray needs booted too, part of our failure etc etc

Yeah **** sentiment, get him gone 🤣

[Since452]

Please stop the SDG chat. The idiot in the other dugout is a good example of a caretaker getting the job.

[jeffers]

Please stop the SDG chat. The idiot in the other dugout is a good example of a caretaker getting the job.

Was Kettlewell not caretaker at Motherwell ?

[Daily Hibs]

Whilst a very important win today it is paper over cracks, SDG isnt equipped for the job for the long term. Not even close to being equipped.

We need to go all out for McInnes who will build a club.

[Heisenberg]

I don’t think Gray will get the job. The timing isn’t ideal, if he’d had another couple of games to prove himself then maybe but we are straight into an international break and have pretty much committed to having it sorted before the next game.

[Daily Hibs]

I wouldn’t mind Gray getting it, in fact I’d probably love it.

I just wonder if the board will look at how Robson and Naismith are getting on and be put off, couldn’t blame them either


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Be careful what you wish for.

Look at Sauzee.

We cant let sentiment cloud what is a very important appointment for the club. The club needs to move forward.

[Since452]

Was Kettlewell not caretaker at Motherwell ?

He's been a manager in his own right though not just a coach.

[Onion]

I don’t think Gray will get the job. The timing isn’t ideal, if he’d had another couple of games to prove himself then maybe but we are straight into an international break and have pretty much committed to having it sorted before the next game.

If SDG can get a tune out of this lot, then proves to new manager there's something to work with. We need to get McInnes locked in before Hearts start flashing their petticoats.

[Hibs90]

Be careful what you wish for.

Look at Sauzee.

We cant let sentiment cloud what is a very important appointment for the club. The club needs to move forward.

Nothing to do with sentiment

Set us up spot on today. Right subs at the right time. Better defensively. Tactically aware.

[Heisenberg]

If SDG can get a tune out of this lot, then proves to new manager there's something to work with. We need to get McInnes locked in before Hearts start flashing their petticoats.

No chance it’ll be McInnes imo.

[DIXIHIBS]

Whilst a very important win today it is paper over cracks, SDG isnt equipped for the job for the long term. Not even close to being equipped.

We need to go all out for McInnes who will build a club.

Why is Gray not even close to being equipped?

[Pretty Boy]

Gray has done well in the last 2 games. Players were far more competitive on Thursday and that's a good result today with a decent performance and some very good subs.

It's a time for cool heads though and it's imperative we think of the medium to long term rather than a popular appointment of a legend. Hearts and Aberdeen both made appointments based on not a lot last season and both look like they could be looking for replacements before the Halloween costumes are put away.

It's a huge appointment and shouldn't be decided on sentiment or emotion after a couple of games. If Gray is absolutely the outstanding candidate then fine, give him the job. I can't see any scenario where that is the case though.

[Onion]

Be careful what you wish for.

Look at Sauzee.

We cant let sentiment cloud what is a very important appointment for the club. The club needs to move forward.

No place for that kind of common sense nonsense around here, especially from someone with just 300 posts :greengrin

[Kato]

Gray has done well in the last 2 games. Players were far more competitive on Thursday and that's a good result today with a decent performance and some very good subs.

It's a time for cool heads though and it's imperative we think of the medium to long term rather than a popular appointment of a legend. Hearts and Aberdeen both made appointments based on not a lot last season and both look like they could be looking for replacements before the Halloween costumes are put away.

It's a huge appointment and shouldn't be decided on sentiment or emotion after a couple of games. If Gray is absolutely the outstanding candidate then fine, give him the job. I can't see any scenario where that is the case though.Hearts never ever put their Halloween costumes away.

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[Allant1981]

Please stop the SDG chat. The idiot in the other dugout is a good example of a caretaker getting the job.

What a daft comparison, although I personally wouldn't have him as manager

[Since452]

What a daft comparison, although I personally wouldn't have him as manager

Is it daft? The coach Robson came in and Aberdeen immediately picked up results then they made him permanent . Look at them now. One league win since April.

[He's here!]

Be careful what you wish for.

Look at Sauzee.

We cant let sentiment cloud what is a very important appointment for the club. The club needs to move forward.

There's no comparison with the Sauzee appointment.

Gray's overseen a very good win today, set us up well at Villa and deserves to have his name in the mix. I'd be fine with him being appointed.

[WhileTheChief..]

Has Gray expressed interest in the job?

[Northernhibee]

We don’t need to rush the managerial appointment now.

[Since452]

Aberdeen and Hearts showing its better to appoint a manager than a coach. I obviously love SDG but let's not get silly.

[hibee316]

Please not David Gray.

[Tambo]

Is 4-4-2 the way going forward? I'm not a big fan of criticism when it's not deserved but Campbell again didn't play well. Some say he must be carrying a knock, don't think he would be involved if he was though.

New manager has some work to do and think about with the midfield, fine off the ball for most of the game, was just spells in the first half where it looked like we never had a midfield attacking wise.

would expect we will want an announcement this week, most likely Friday. Give him a little bit of time to work with the players.

[Hibby-G]

I'd give it to Christian Doidge with ALF as his number 2 :greengrin

[Hibee87]

We don’t need to rush the managerial appointment now.

I'd be having one eye on our chums over the road. If we take too long we might be shopping in the same market in the not too distant future.

[1875M]

Good performance. Organised, disciplined and a clear plan. Everything that has been lacking recently. Well done Hibs and David Gray.

[Iain G]

Good performance. Organised, disciplined and a clear plan. Everything that has been lacking recently. Well done Hibs and David Gray.

It's Scottish football, don't overthink it and make it complicated.

[SeanWilson]

There's no comparison with the Sauzee appointment.

Gray's overseen a very good win today, set us up well at Villa and deserves to have his name in the mix. I'd be fine with him being appointed.

😂🤦*♂️what a difference a win makes.

[H18 SFR]

Gray has had a positive result against a shocker of an Aberdeen side. Can understand the relief in some fans but look to the other dug out today when you appoint internally to someone probably not ready.

We can’t let sentiment rule our heads here.

[Trinity Hibee]

I thought Gray has said in previous caretaker stint that he wasn’t interested in the job full time? Doesn’t see himself as a manager? Might have got that wrong though

[Alex Trager]

This shows the squad is better than has been shown.

Go and get McInnes before Hearts ask that question and let him build us into a winning machine Hibs.

[makaveli1875]

Please not David Gray.

Maybe 1 day better but keep him in his current role for now so he can step in again as caretaker when we sack the next manager

[Since452]

A decent manager can get 3rd with this squad

[JohnM1875]

Gray has had a positive result against a shocker of an Aberdeen side. Can understand the relief in some fans but look to the other dug out today when you appoint internally to someone probably not ready.

We can’t let sentiment rule our heads here.

Because Robson appears to be **** that means Gray is? The argument doesn't make any sense to me.

Gray came in after Ross and ran Celtic close in a cup final, came in after Maloney and steadied things with everything on a downward spiral and has just come in after LJ and got a result away to Aberdeen, a place we usually struggle at.

Think he deserves a bit more credit to be honest.

[LunasBoots]

Thing is Gray is very well respected and liked by the group of players who do play for him, he is a shout.

[He's here!]

Please not David Gray.

Why not?

[neil7908]

Gray has done well in the last 2 games. Players were far more competitive on Thursday and that's a good result today with a decent performance and some very good subs.

It's a time for cool heads though and it's imperative we think of the medium to long term rather than a popular appointment of a legend. Hearts and Aberdeen both made appointments based on not a lot last season and both look like they could be looking for replacements before the Halloween costumes are put away.

It's a huge appointment and shouldn't be decided on sentiment or emotion after a couple of games. If Gray is absolutely the outstanding candidate then fine, give him the job. I can't see any scenario where that is the case though.

Very well said.

It's not a definite no for me (appointing SDG that is) but I think we'd need to have real think about his merits versus other candidates.

As you say, our opponents today had a huge new manager bounce from Robson but look at them now.

[jeffers]

I thought Gray has said in previous caretaker stint that he wasn’t interested in the job full time? Doesn’t see himself as a manager? Might have got that wrong though

He absolutely wants the job.

[Trinity Hibee]

He absolutely wants the job.

Fair enough

[HendoDelivered]

He absolutely wants the job.

Even if he were to get it, there is no doubt in my mind he does better than LJ did.

[H18 SFR]

Because Robson appears to be **** that means Gray is? The argument doesn't make any sense to me.

Gray came in after Ross and ran Celtic close in a cup final, came in after Maloney and steadied things with everything on a downward spiral and has just come in after LJ and got a result away to Aberdeen, a place we usually struggle at.

Think he deserves a bit more credit to be honest.

He’s been part of three successive coaching teams that have had the sack. Like it or not, he’s only there still because he’s David Gray, not because he’s an exceptional and gifted coach destined to be a number one.

[JohnM1875]

He’s been part of three successive coaching teams that have had the sack. Like it or not, he’s only there still because he’s David Gray, not because he’s an exceptional and gifted coach destined to be a number one.

How much can one coach influence a new managers style of play? He'll have been asked to carry out specific tasks by each manager. Offensive set plays I believe under LJ.