Who for next manager?

[Hibbyradge]

What do you mean by overacheive?

I think we unnderachrive big time. We should have at least two cups since 2016 and we have none, that would be achieving what we should with the number of Hsmpden trips in last 10 years.

Overacheiving yo me would be winning the league?

With the size of our club and a poor season from one of the Old Firm 2nd should be achievable by a decent manager, always frustrated me we difnt have a proper go at it in the Covid Season. Look at the clubs that have done it recently.

:tee hee:

[hibeerealist]

When I think about overachieving, I try to take an objective view of where we *should* be, based on our size, our spend, and our facilities relative to others in the league.

That places us, if we just achieve what's expected, as fifth and regular semi-semi finalists in the cups.

The logic there, which I think it's pretty robust - is that Celtic should (add generally do) win everything. When they don't, it would be reasonable to expect Rangers as the next biggest club by a distance to win what Celtic haven't.

Hearts and Aberdeen spend more than us, but not to a level that we can't at least keep up but generally you'd think the top four would consist of Celtic, Rangers, Hearts, and Aberdeen (with places 3 and 4 up for grabs).

So for us to over-achieve, we should finish third or above. I think we're close enough to fourth in spend that it would be a realistic target, even if we're at a slight disadvantage to the clubs mentioned.

Winning a cup is an overachievement. With Celtic and Rangers in the competitions every season, it should be an anomaly for anyone outside of those two to win it (which we've seen in recent seasons with Celtic doing multiple trebles).

So overachievement would be third, adding a cup would be a cherry on top.

Jack Ross overachieved. Lee Johnson just met the minimum expected for league finish and massively underachieved in the cups.


Matty, I can see where your going with this but ........... JR overachieved ?????

[DIXIHIBS]

What do you mean by overacheive?

I think we unnderachrive big time. We should have at least two cups since 2016 and we have none, that would be achieving what we should with the number of Hsmpden trips in last 10 years.

Overacheiving yo me would be winning the league?

With the size of our club and a poor season from one of the Old Firm 2nd should be achievable by a decent manager, always frustrated me we difnt have a proper go at it in the Covid Season. Look at the clubs that have done it recently.

2nd achievable....you're at it. If you look at hibs/hertz/dons as being the biggest 3 outside the old firm, then in the last 40 years they have all underachieved. The gulf between the old firm and the rest makes it virtually impossible beyond 3rd place. Winning a cup is of course a target but again the OF have won about 80% ? of everything between them in football history.

[Since452]

I've been watching a lot of NM video's. They are well worth watching for anyone that's got doubts about him becoming manager. I think he'd be a good appointment tbh .
https://youtu.be/mLMrQpo1vY0?si=ccRt7u-tC97_IFsc

I watched loads of these kind of videos to death with LJ and got really excited and invested. The Lee Johnson masterclass after beating Man City or whoever it was. Can't put myself through the same again. Will let the football do the talking (if he gets the job).

[JimBHibees]

When I think about overachieving, I try to take an objective view of where we *should* be, based on our size, our spend, and our facilities relative to others in the league.

That places us, if we just achieve what's expected, as fifth and regular semi-semi finalists in the cups.

The logic there, which I think it's pretty robust - is that Celtic should (add generally do) win everything. When they don't, it would be reasonable to expect Rangers as the next biggest club by a distance to win what Celtic haven't.

Hearts and Aberdeen spend more than us, but not to a level that we can't at least keep up but generally you'd think the top four would consist of Celtic, Rangers, Hearts, and Aberdeen (with places 3 and 4 up for grabs).

So for us to over-achieve, we should finish third or above. I think we're close enough to fourth in spend that it would be a realistic target, even if we're at a slight disadvantage to the clubs mentioned.

Winning a cup is an overachievement. With Celtic and Rangers in the competitions every season, it should be an anomaly for anyone outside of those two to win it (which we've seen in recent seasons with Celtic doing multiple trebles).

So overachievement would be third, adding a cup would be a cherry on top.

Jack Ross overachieved. Lee Johnson just met the minimum expected for league finish and massively underachieved in the cups.

Brilliant post. Spot on.

[Daily Hibs]

When I think about overachieving, I try to take an objective view of where we *should* be, based on our size, our spend, and our facilities relative to others in the league.

That places us, if we just achieve what's expected, as fifth and regular semi-semi finalists in the cups.

The logic there, which I think it's pretty robust - is that Celtic should (add generally do) win everything. When they don't, it would be reasonable to expect Rangers as the next biggest club by a distance to win what Celtic haven't.

Hearts and Aberdeen spend more than us, but not to a level that we can't at least keep up but generally you'd think the top four would consist of Celtic, Rangers, Hearts, and Aberdeen (with places 3 and 4 up for grabs).

So for us to over-achieve, we should finish third or above. I think we're close enough to fourth in spend that it would be a realistic target, even if we're at a slight disadvantage to the clubs mentioned.

Winning a cup is an overachievement. With Celtic and Rangers in the competitions every season, it should be an anomaly for anyone outside of those two to win it (which we've seen in recent seasons with Celtic doing multiple trebles).

So overachievement would be third, adding a cup would be a cherry on top.

Jack Ross overachieved. Lee Johnson just met the minimum expected for league finish and massively underachieved in the cups.
So you are saying finishing 3rd or winning a cup is actually over achieving?

I dont buy that, regardless of our entire history. Just look at the last ten years... to only have one cup win is under achievement how ever you dress it.

We cant move forward by saying 3rd or a Cup is over acheiving with how much the club has grown and the finances we have now. We need to have more ambition than that!

Jack Ross finished 3rd poorly and St Johnsrone won both cups which should have been us! That's not over acheiving.

I reckon we'd have a better chance of overacheiving with McInnes than some unknown guy from Australian football.

[Jones28]

When I think about overachieving, I try to take an objective view of where we *should* be, based on our size, our spend, and our facilities relative to others in the league.

That places us, if we just achieve what's expected, as fifth and regular semi-semi finalists in the cups.

The logic there, which I think it's pretty robust - is that Celtic should (add generally do) win everything. When they don't, it would be reasonable to expect Rangers as the next biggest club by a distance to win what Celtic haven't.

Hearts and Aberdeen spend more than us, but not to a level that we can't at least keep up but generally you'd think the top four would consist of Celtic, Rangers, Hearts, and Aberdeen (with places 3 and 4 up for grabs).

So for us to over-achieve, we should finish third or above. I think we're close enough to fourth in spend that it would be a realistic target, even if we're at a slight disadvantage to the clubs mentioned.

Winning a cup is an overachievement. With Celtic and Rangers in the competitions every season, it should be an anomaly for anyone outside of those two to win it (which we've seen in recent seasons with Celtic doing multiple trebles).

So overachievement would be third, adding a cup would be a cherry on top.

Jack Ross overachieved. Lee Johnson just met the minimum expected for league finish and massively underachieved in the cups.

The poster you're quoting has been banging this drum repeatedly.

2nd is perfectly achievable according to Daily Hibs, so much so the only times it has happened in my lifetime was Hearts grossly overspending and eventually going pop and Aberdeen doing it when Hearts, Hibs and Rangers were out the top division.

[Jones28]

So you are saying finishing 3rd or winning a cup is actually over achieving?

I dont buy that, regardless of our entire history. Just look at the last ten years... to only have one cup win is under achievement how ever you dress it.

We cant move forward by saying 3rd or a Cup is over acheiving with how much the club has grown and the finances we have now. We need to have some ambition!

Jack Ross finished 3rd poorly and St Johnsrone won both cups which should have been us! That's not over acheiving.

The trouble is, all of our competition has done the exact same thing, and Celtic are miles ahead of where they were even 10 years ago in terms of revenue and spending power.

[Donegal Hibby]

I watched loads of these kind of videos to death with LJ and got really excited and invested. The Lee Johnson masterclass after beating Man City or whoever it was. Can't put myself through the same again. Will let the football do the talking (if he gets the job).

That's fair enough mate . Had a look in the CCM FORUM to see what was being said about Montgomery .
https://www.ccmfans.net/community/threads/our-beloved-monty.7078/page-17

[04Sauzee]

Wonder how close we are or aren't?

sky sports Scotland
🚨 Nick Montgomery will hold talks with Hibernian over becoming the club's new manager. Full story ⬇️

[blackpoolhibs]

I watched loads of these kind of videos to death with LJ and got really excited and invested. The Lee Johnson masterclass after beating Man City or whoever it was. Can't put myself through the same again. Will let the football do the talking (if he gets the job).

I dont know why anyone would get excited over a managerial appointment, whoever we appoint normally has been sacked and had a few poor results or seasons with a previous club.

NM looks like he's coming in, has had a bit of success at a much lower standard but did it well without the kind of money the bigger clubs had.

Now as it appears he's coming to us, he will need to continue to improve, and of course improve us, i do get the feeling some people are going overboard with praise, he's not invented the wheel, he's just had a bit of success, like most of the names mentioned on this thread.

When/if he's appointed we should all get right behind him, but i feel expectations are wrongly so high now, that when he fails to win some games, and he will, the knives will be out.

No manager gets the time needed now, and i dont see the next one being any different.

[matty_f]

So you are saying finishing 3rd or winning a cup is actually over achieving?

I dont buy that, regardless of our entire history. Just look at the last ten years... to only have one cup win is under achievement how ever you dress it.

We cant move forward by saying 3rd or a Cup is over acheiving with how much the club has grown and the finances we have now. We need to have more ambition than that!

Jack Ross finished 3rd poorly and St Johnsrone won both cups which should have been us! That's not over acheiving.

I reckon we'd have a better chance of overacheiving with McInnes than some unknown guy from Australian football.

I'm not saying anything about historic achievement.

Finishing third is an overachievement at Hibs however you want to look at it other than if you set an unrealistically high bar on what achievement looks like.

Can you explain how third isn't an overachievement and what it is about Hibs as as we are that places our expectations higher than the four clubs I mentioned?

As for ambition - you can have ambitions for third - ambitions are a stretch almost by definition, but achieving your ambitions doesn't mean you've not overachieved.

And our finances have increased, bit not to the level of Hearts and Aberdeen , so it's relative. You have to consider other clubs when you're assessing what is realistic.

[flash]

Wonder how close we are or aren't?

sky sports Scotland
🚨 Nick Montgomery will hold talks with Hibernian over becoming the club's new manager. Full story ⬇️

Nothing new there just basically a recap of what we all know.

[BoomtownHibees]

With the size of our club and a poor season from one of the Old Firm 2nd should be achievable by a decent manager, always frustrated me we difnt have a proper go at it in the Covid Season. Look at the clubs that have done it recently.

Who?

[Brightside]

Matty, I can see where your going with this but ........... JR overachieved ?????

He did. Achieved more than we normally do ergo he overachieved.

[ScottB]

Probably need context for us to decide whether we’ve under or overachieved. In general getting to a cup final is maybe overachieving. There’s no shame being beaten by Celtic in said final, but losing it to St Johnstone (or similar) feels like underachieving to me.

In the same sense, Aberdeen finishing 2nd. Now? Overachieving. When Rangers, Hearts and us weren’t in the league? Probably not.

[matty_f]

Probably need context for us to decide whether we’ve under or overachieved. In general getting to a cup final is maybe overachieving. There’s no shame being beaten by Celtic in said final, but losing it to St Johnstone (or similar) feels like underachieving to me.

In the same sense, Aberdeen finishing 2nd. Now? Overachieving. When Rangers, Hearts and us weren’t in the league? Probably not.

Getting to a final for Hibs is overachieving but losing it to St Johnstone is underachieving, it's a situation where the club's done both relative to the circumstances.

For Jack Ross, the third place finish was an overachievement but I agree with you that Aberdeen's second place finish without Hibs/Hearts/Rangers in the league shouldn't be considered an overachievement.

[Brightside]

Probably need context for us to decide whether we’ve under or overachieved. In general getting to a cup final is maybe overachieving. There’s no shame being beaten by Celtic in said final, but losing it to St Johnstone (or similar) feels like underachieving to me.

In the same sense, Aberdeen finishing 2nd. Now? Overachieving. When Rangers, Hearts and us weren’t in the league? Probably not.

Getting there is the over achievement.... especially if you beat an old firm on the way.

[JimBHibees]

Well worth a watch

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WPKPssCK57Y

[B.H.F.C]

Wonder how close we are or aren't?

sky sports Scotland
🚨 Nick Montgomery will hold talks with Hibernian over becoming the club's new manager. Full story ⬇️

The media don’t have any idea what is happening with this one. It’s widely known that we’re interested in Montgomery and he’s interested in us and they just keep regurgitating it at different points.

[Ray_]

What do you mean by overacheive?

I think we unnderachrive big time. We should have at least two cups since 2016 and we have none, that would be achieving what we should with the number of Hsmpden trips in last 10 years.

Overacheiving yo me would be winning the league?

With the size of our club and a poor season from one of the Old Firm 2nd should be achievable by a decent manager, always frustrated me we difnt have a proper go at it in the Covid Season. Look at the clubs that have done it recently.

My first game was when we thrashed Hamilton, 11-1, in November 1965. By 1975, we came second in the league twice, 73/4 & 74/5. This was achieved by a totally outstanding team Hibs team, who would never have stayed together, in present day. The the rewards in England and the rest of the world, are just too great, for that to have happened today.

That team coming second wasn't an overachievement, anything else since would have been.

Dundee United and Aberdeen did what Hibs could have done, but we rapidly became poor and since the new firm, the gap and circumstances became too great [Rangers demotion excepted].

[Daily Hibs]

I'm not saying anything about historic achievement.

Finishing third is an overachievement at Hibs however you want to look at it other than if you set an unrealistically high bar on what achievement looks like.

Can you explain how third isn't an overachievement and what it is about Hibs as as we are that places our expectations higher than the four clubs I mentioned?

As for ambition - you can have ambitions for third - ambitions are a stretch almost by definition, but achieving your ambitions doesn't mean you've not overachieved.

And our finances have increased, bit not to the level of Hearts and Aberdeen , so it's relative. You have to consider other clubs when you're assessing what is realistic.
Ok, I get that but did you consider Hearts weren't in the league when Jack Ross finished 3rd.

Also last season Aberdeen managed to finish 3rd and in the long term were the real winners from us beating them 6-0. We went on to finish 5th and Aberdeen 3rd. Did we achieve parity last season or under acheive because last season sure felt like under achievement, hence why LJ is no longer in charge.

This is exactly why I'd rather even have Lennon than NM. Lennon has ambition and would want us to be pushing on. He was raging we missed the chance to finish 2nd, raging. McInnes would be similar, they both understand the potential thd club has and would want us to push on. NM would be another project type and wd dont need that.

[matty_f]

Ok, I get that but did you consider Hearts weren't in the league when Jack Ross finished 3rd.

Also last season Aberdeen managed to finish 3rd and in the long term were the real winners from us beating them 6-0. We went on to finish 5th and Aberdeen 3rd. Did we achieve parity last season or under acheive because last season sure felt like under achievement, hence why LJ is no longer in charge.

Johnson isn't in charge because of how we started this season.

Jack Ross' third place, with Aberdeen in the league and outspending us, was an overachievement. Fourth would have been meeting expectations, below that would have been underachieving.

When you talk about Aberdeen being the winners long term, they might be but they're below us in the league now and were (imho) fortunate to finish ahead of us last season, but they did.

[Donegal Hibby]

Didn't realize the money we're getting for being in Europe was as much this . Hopefully transfer funds will be available for the new manager .
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/hearts-hibs-euro-prize-money-30887938

[Brightside]

Didn't realize the money we're getting for being in Europe was as much this . Hopefully transfer funds will be available for the new manager .
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/hearts-hibs-euro-prize-money-30887938

Already spent

[blackpoolhibs]

Ok, I get that but did you consider Hearts weren't in the league when Jack Ross finished 3rd.

Also last season Aberdeen managed to finish 3rd and in the long term were the real winners from us beating them 6-0. We went on to finish 5th and Aberdeen 3rd. Did we achieve parity last season or under acheive because last season sure felt like under achievement, hence why LJ is no longer in charge.

This is exactly why I'd rather even have Lennon than NM. Lennon has ambition and would want us to be pushing on. He was raging we missed the chance to finish 2nd, raging. McInnes would be similar, they both understand the potential thd club has and would want us to push on. NM would be another project type and wd dont need that.
Hearts were not in the league because they were sheite, better teams than them finished above them?

[hibeez1875]

When I think about overachieving, I try to take an objective view of where we *should* be, based on our size, our spend, and our facilities relative to others in the league.

That places us, if we just achieve what's expected, as fifth and regular semi-semi finalists in the cups.

The logic there, which I think it's pretty robust - is that Celtic should (add generally do) win everything. When they don't, it would be reasonable to expect Rangers as the next biggest club by a distance to win what Celtic haven't.

Hearts and Aberdeen spend more than us, but not to a level that we can't at least keep up but generally you'd think the top four would consist of Celtic, Rangers, Hearts, and Aberdeen (with places 3 and 4 up for grabs).

So for us to over-achieve, we should finish third or above. I think we're close enough to fourth in spend that it would be a realistic target, even if we're at a slight disadvantage to the clubs mentioned.

Winning a cup is an overachievement. With Celtic and Rangers in the competitions every season, it should be an anomaly for anyone outside of those two to win it (which we've seen in recent seasons with Celtic doing multiple trebles).

So overachievement would be third, adding a cup would be a cherry on top.

Jack Ross overachieved. Lee Johnson just met the minimum expected for league finish and massively underachieved in the cups.

I’ve always felt 1st or 2nd is overachieving
3rd, 4th or 5th is where we should be
6th or lower is underachieving
In my lifetime Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen could all lay claim to being 3rd best/biggest at different times. We’re similar sized clubs with similar resources.
In the cups, so much depends on the draw, obviously. If we avoid the old firm until the latter stages in both cups then we should be making at least one semi-final.
I don’t feel that is unrealistic, yet we’ve not achieved the above nearly often enough during my lifetime. At least, that’s my perception:

[CL0762]

Ok, I get that but did you consider Hearts weren't in the league when Jack Ross finished 3rd.

Also last season Aberdeen managed to finish 3rd and in the long term were the real winners from us beating them 6-0. We went on to finish 5th and Aberdeen 3rd. Did we achieve parity last season or under acheive because last season sure felt like under achievement, hence why LJ is no longer in charge.

This is exactly why I'd rather even have Lennon than NM. Lennon has ambition and would want us to be pushing on. He was raging we missed the chance to finish 2nd, raging. McInnes would be similar, they both understand the potential thd club has and would want us to push on. NM would be another project type and wd dont need that.

Lennon was raging we didn’t finish second because he made an arse of the team selection at tynecastle. His own undoing.

He then also made an arse of himself by doing an aeroplane on the pitch after conceding 5 goals without reply at home after racing into a 3 goal lead.

[Caversham Green]

Ok, I get that but did you consider Hearts weren't in the league when Jack Ross finished 3rd.

Also last season Aberdeen managed to finish 3rd and in the long term were the real winners from us beating them 6-0. We went on to finish 5th and Aberdeen 3rd. Did we achieve parity last season or under acheive because last season sure felt like under achievement, hence why LJ is no longer in charge.

This is exactly why I'd rather even have Lennon than NM. Lennon has ambition and would want us to be pushing on. He was raging we missed the chance to finish 2nd, raging. McInnes would be similar, they both understand the potential thd club has and would want us to push on. NM would be another project type and wd dont need that.

Did Aberdeen ever overachieve with McInnes in charge? It seems to me they only ever did what was expected or worse and one trophy in eight years is by no means a great return by your own standards. They made third last year but McInnes was long gone before then.

And Lennon had no right to be raging when we missed 2nd - he was in charge ffs.

If it's to be Monty, the last time I felt like this was when we appointed Collins - I thought he was an inspired choice at the time and with better backroom staff and a bit of humility I think he would have been a raging success. McInnes and Lennon are yesterday men, Monty is on the way up.

[CapitalGreen]

Hearts were not in the league because they were sheite, better teams than them finished above them?

That the season they knocked us out the cup?

[McGruber]

Well worth a watch

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WPKPssCK57Y

Was all for taking the chance on Montgomery and seen a few videos/interviews. This one just enforces my thinking we should give him a try. The telling thing for me is the relationship he clearly has with the players, that doesn't come from anything other than good man management.
There will be other candidates, and I'm not saying I prefer NM to anyone else they are looking at, however it is NM we know is close to getting it so been looking at him. Like what I see and hear. Does it mean he'll do a good job - no, there's no guarantees with anyone. Experienced managers that tick more boxes mitigate some risk but there is always risk and can't be bothered with some of the managers that have been round the houses before - some feel a bit stale. Hopefully we do our proper due dilligence on NM and if the club/McDermott feel he (or whoever else) is the right man then the support can get behind them from day 1. I'm glad LJ is gone but don't think he is one that got that luxury

[greenlex]

Lennon was raging we didn’t finish second because he made an arse of the team selection at tynecastle. His own undoing.

He then also made an arse of himself by doing an aeroplane on the pitch after conceding 5 goals without reply at home after racing into a 3 goal lead.
Possibly a technicality to the point you are trying to make but it wasn’t without reply as we did score another two.

[Northernhibee]

Genuinely amazed there’s a debate about Neil Lennon after the way he left us the last time and the pattern of taking very good teams and a seeming inability to grow or even maintain them.

Neil Lennon will not be Hibs manager again and the sooner his mates in the media stop bringing it up the better and mor e dignified for all.

[GreenPJ]

Possibly a technicality to the point you are trying to make but it wasn’t without reply as we did score another two.

And at the time it felt like a result (even although 70 mins earlier we were flying)

[WeeRussell]

Genuinely amazed there’s a debate about Neil Lennon after the way he left us the last time and the pattern of taking very good teams and a seeming inability to grow or even maintain them.

Neil Lennon will not be Hibs manager again and the sooner his mates in the media stop bringing it up the better and mor e dignified for all.

Exactly. It’s a real strange one given he seems to be the only ex-manager that some insist on talking about returning to Hibs, and was punted during a really poor spell… it wasn’t like he left with us thinking “I hope he wants to return to us one day as we’re really going to miss him.”

We’ve had far better managers leave on better terms/form, where we’re quite happy to say he’s had his time, even if he would appear to be a better option than Lennon.

[B.H.F.C]

Genuinely amazed there’s a debate about Neil Lennon after the way he left us the last time and the pattern of taking very good teams and a seeming inability to grow or even maintain them.

Neil Lennon will not be Hibs manager again and the sooner his mates in the media stop bringing it up the better and mor e dignified for all.

I wasn’t overly keen on Lennon coming back. I’d have taken him but could see the negatives.

I never buy in to the thought that ‘he’ dismantled the team he had it Hibs though. The best midfield in a generation all left at once and there was very little he could do about it. Nobody has really done much about it since. He did initially make us better with the likes of Marciano and Ambrose and it was under him that Boyle went from being a squad player who nobody was that fussed about to one of our most important players.

[The Modfather]

Getting to a final for Hibs is overachieving but losing it to St Johnstone is underachieving, it's a situation where the club's done both relative to the circumstances.

For Jack Ross, the third place finish was an overachievement but I agree with you that Aberdeen's second place finish without Hibs/Hearts/Rangers in the league shouldn't be considered an overachievement.

Jack Ross didn’t have Hearts in the league either, however I generally agree with your last couple of posts on gauging achievement.

On Montgomery, I’m excited by the prospect of, hopefully, playing high tempo, energetic (be that attacking, counter attacking, long ball etc) football and giving the youngsters their chance. That’s what I’m looking for in the next manager.

[ScottB]

Ok, I get that but did you consider Hearts weren't in the league when Jack Ross finished 3rd.

Also last season Aberdeen managed to finish 3rd and in the long term were the real winners from us beating them 6-0. We went on to finish 5th and Aberdeen 3rd. Did we achieve parity last season or under acheive because last season sure felt like under achievement, hence why LJ is no longer in charge.

This is exactly why I'd rather even have Lennon than NM. Lennon has ambition and would want us to be pushing on. He was raging we missed the chance to finish 2nd, raging. McInnes would be similar, they both understand the potential thd club has and would want us to push on. NM would be another project type and wd dont need that.

Lennon, who went in the huff when we lost at Tynecastle under his watch has ambition, but NM, fresh from taking a totally unfancied side to a title, has no ambition and will, what, settle for 5th? Come on.

Also, of course Hibs are a project. We could hire Pep and not be winning the league this year. Whoever comes in has to build a team, develop the guys who are here etc.

[Northernhibee]

I wasn’t overly keen on Lennon coming back. I’d have taken him but could see the negatives.

I never buy in to the thought that ‘he’ dismantled the team he had it Hibs though. The best midfield in a generation all left at once and there was very little he could do about it. Nobody has really done much about it since. He did initially make us better with the likes of Marciano and Ambrose and it was under him that Boyle went from being a squad player who nobody was that fussed about to one of our most important players.

There was a fair bit of chat on here about two prominent members of the Cup winning midfield not being happy about their treatment on here. It’s not as if either player left for a stonking pay rise.

A few players reacted to it, many didn’t. I worked with an ex ICT player who described life under Terry Butcher. If he liked you then you were like family, hence the ICT team that clicked under him. If you weren’t liked then you were looking for a new club as it was miserable.

The difference between Butcher and Lennon was that Butcher was long past the stage of his career where he could take over a team that was ready to go and just needed to be wound up and sent out onto the pitch.

[Unseen work]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-conclude-interview-process-for-next-manager-as-brian-mcdermott-prepares-to-present-findings-to-board-4284982 Further update

[Hibbyradge]

Surely if it's going to be Montgomery, they'll announce it at 5.00am or similar? 🇦🇺

[CL0762]

Possibly a technicality to the point you are trying to make but it wasn’t without reply as we did score another two.

Aye sorry, probably could’ve worded that better.

[HoboHarry]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-conclude-interview-process-for-next-manager-as-brian-mcdermott-prepares-to-present-findings-to-board-4284982 Further update
Hope they are wrong about it taking until next week, would love to see an appointment tomorrow :aok:

[S4uzee]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-conclude-interview-process-for-next-manager-as-brian-mcdermott-prepares-to-present-findings-to-board-4284982 Further update

Wonder who the 5 were given Lennon wasn’t one.

[Willis1875]

Wonder who the 5 were given Lennon wasn’t one.

It doesn’t say there were 5 candidates

[Unseen work]

Hope they are wrong about it taking until next week, would love to see an appointment tomorrow :aok:

I’m the same, if we don’t appoint him until Monday when would he and his coaching staff actually start work? They’d be coming over from the other side of the world not down the road.

[Hibbyradge]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-conclude-interview-process-for-next-manager-as-brian-mcdermott-prepares-to-present-findings-to-board-4284982 Further update

"the likes of Neil Lennon and Derek McInnes did not make the shortlist."

[Hibbyradge]

I’m the same, if we don’t appoint him until Monday when would he and his coaching staff actually start work? They’d be coming over from the other side of the world not down the road.

He'll know he's got the job before the official "unveiling" so he can put things in motion.

[B.H.F.C]

There was a fair bit of chat on here about two prominent members of the Cup winning midfield not being happy about their treatment on here. It’s not as if either player left for a stonking pay rise.

A few players reacted to it, many didn’t. I worked with an ex ICT player who described life under Terry Butcher. If he liked you then you were like family, hence the ICT team that clicked under him. If you weren’t liked then you were looking for a new club as it was miserable.

The difference between Butcher and Lennon was that Butcher was long past the stage of his career where he could take over a team that was ready to go and just needed to be wound up and sent out onto the pitch.

There’s also prominent members of the cup winning team who thought he was brilliant. The same will be true of almost every manager, some will like them and some won’t.

[Hibees1973]

If McInnes or Robinson were appointed and with the budget we have these days, you would hope and expect either of these two, with more resources, to get Hibs in the top 4 and regularly at Hampden for semi finals/finals. Think most of us on here would regard them as a safe bet. Some others would probably regard them as boring.

If Kensell & Ian Gordon appointed either of these two and this was not achieved Kensell & Gordon would not be blamed and absolved of any responsibility. Most people would fully get and understand if McInnes or Robinson were appointed. Both are logical options and tick a lot of boxes.

However, Kensell and Ian Gordon come with baggage. They were both at the club and oversaw the appointment and sacking of Maloney & Johnson.

This is why I and some others on hibs.net see Montgomery as more of a risk and puts more scrutiny on Kensell & Ian Gordon. Yes, McDermott is involved this time, but Kensell & Ian Gordon could sack McDermott any time they wish.

After two very short stints for Maloney & Johnson things appear a bit of a mess. It's been a revolving door of players in and out over the last couple of years. There has been a huge amount of players poorly recruited and Hibs are burdened by so many players out on loan or still in the squad but don't get any playing time.

If it is Montgomery, I wish him all the best. But if this risky appointment does not work out it's Kensell and Ian Gordon who will come under even more pressure.

[Since90+2]

If McInnes or Robinson were appointed and with the budget we have these days, you would hope and expect either of these two, with more resources, to get Hibs in the top 4 and regularly at Hampden for semi finals/finals. Think most of us on here would regard them as a safe bet. Some others would probably regard them as boring.

If Kensell & Ian Gordon appointed either of these two and this was not achieved Kensell & Gordon would not be blamed and absolved of any responsibility. Most people would fully get and understand if McInnes or Robinson were appointed. Both are logical options and tick a lot of boxes.

However, Kensell and Ian Gordon come with baggage. They were both at the club and oversaw the appointment and sacking of Maloney & Johnson.

This is why I and some others on hibs.net see Montgomery as more of a risk and puts more scrutiny on Kensell & Ian Gordon. Yes, McDermott is involved this time, but Kensell & Ian Gordon could sack McDermott any time they wish.

After two very short stints for Maloney & Johnson things appear a bit of a mess. It's been a revolving door of players in and out over the last couple of years. There has been a huge amount of players poorly recruited and Hibs are burdened by so many players out on loan or still in the squad but don't get any playing time.

If it is Montgomery, I wish him all the best. But if this risky appointment does not work out it's Kensell and Ian Gordon who will come under even more pressure.

If anything you have to admire Ian Gordon (as ultimately it will be his choice). He's not taking the easy option.

[Hibs4185]

I find it a little bit funny that McInnes or Lennon didn’t even make the shortlist. Surely they should have at least been approached and spoken to if interested.

If they are then subsequently ruled out then fair enough biy I don’t think you can call a thorough and extensive process if two of the more well known names aren’t even considered. It’s not like Kensell or Brian McDermott know much about them

I’m all for Montgomery and hope he gets it though

[KeithTheHibby]

Already spent

Nonsense. We’ve spent the 2m European money?

[JimBHibees]

I find it a little bit funny that McInnes or Lennon didn’t even make the shortlist. Surely they should have at least been approached and spoken to if interested.

If they are then subsequently ruled out then fair enough biy I don’t think you can call a thorough and extensive process if two of the more well known names aren’t even considered. It’s not like Kensell or Brian McDermott know much about them

I’m all for Montgomery and hope he gets it though

Why would McDermott not know about McInnes or Lennon?

[sorryfolks]

If McInnes or Robinson were appointed and with the budget we have these days, you would hope and expect either of these two, with more resources, to get Hibs in the top 4 and regularly at Hampden for semi finals/finals. Think most of us on here would regard them as a safe bet. Some others would probably regard them as boring.

If Kensell & Ian Gordon appointed either of these two and this was not achieved Kensell & Gordon would not be blamed and absolved of any responsibility. Most people would fully get and understand if McInnes or Robinson were appointed. Both are logical options and tick a lot of boxes.

However, Kensell and Ian Gordon come with baggage. They were both at the club and oversaw the appointment and sacking of Maloney & Johnson.

This is why I and some others on hibs.net see Montgomery as more of a risk and puts more scrutiny on Kensell & Ian Gordon. Yes, McDermott is involved this time, but Kensell & Ian Gordon could sack McDermott any time they wish.

After two very short stints for Maloney & Johnson things appear a bit of a mess. It's been a revolving door of players in and out over the last couple of years. There has been a huge amount of players poorly recruited and Hibs are burdened by so many players out on loan or still in the squad but don't get any playing time.

If it is Montgomery, I wish him all the best. But if this risky appointment does not work out it's Kensell and Ian Gordon who will come under even more pressure.

Personally I’d be placing all blame on Kensell and Gordon if they hired a middling manager, like McInnes or Robinson, and they underachieved. The chance to appoint a young, ambitious and relatively successful manager fills me with much more hope and excitement than your run of the mill “knows the Scottish game” merry-go-round manager.

[WeeRussell]

Why would McDermott not know about McInnes or Lennon?

And why should they be on the shortlist just because they’re “well-known” (well, to most apart from Brian McDermott)

[babahibs]

If McInnes or Robinson were appointed and with the budget we have these days, you would hope and expect either of these two, with more resources, to get Hibs in the top 4 and regularly at Hampden for semi finals/finals. Think most of us on here would regard them as a safe bet. Some others would probably regard them as boring.

If Kensell & Ian Gordon appointed either of these two and this was not achieved Kensell & Gordon would not be blamed and absolved of any responsibility. Most people would fully get and understand if McInnes or Robinson were appointed. Both are logical options and tick a lot of boxes.

However, Kensell and Ian Gordon come with baggage. They were both at the club and oversaw the appointment and sacking of Maloney & Johnson.

This is why I and some others on hibs.net see Montgomery as more of a risk and puts more scrutiny on Kensell & Ian Gordon. Yes, McDermott is involved this time, but Kensell & Ian Gordon could sack McDermott any time they wish.

After two very short stints for Maloney & Johnson things appear a bit of a mess. It's been a revolving door of players in and out over the last couple of years. There has been a huge amount of players poorly recruited and Hibs are burdened by so many players out on loan or still in the squad but don't get any playing time.

If it is Montgomery, I wish him all the best. But if this risky appointment does not work out it's Kensell and Ian Gordon who will come under even more pressure.

I don't think I've ever read anything that makes less sense than this, it actually reads like AI.

[S4uzee]

I find it a little bit funny that McInnes or Lennon didn’t even make the shortlist. Surely they should have at least been approached and spoken to if interested.

If they are then subsequently ruled out then fair enough biy I don’t think you can call a thorough and extensive process if two of the more well known names aren’t even considered. It’s not like Kensell or Brian McDermott know much about them

I’m all for Montgomery and hope he gets it though

They’re both probably too strong characters for the current regime

[Hibbyradge]

They’re both probably too strong characters for the current regime

:faf:

[Broken Gnome]

Sure a little-thought out process that didn't go into the sufficient depth would have just picked McInnes and the other domestic ones? Or McDermott's mates? Or Lennon because he's obvious and available?

Folk are getting in absolute knots about this. Can't remember this amount of speculative scrutiny over any previous appointment. Anyone will come with risks and benefits, and the new manager will be deemed to have the most upside to outweigh the reservations. Even considering the fact the board are due us a good appointment - and they absolute should be facing a good deal of scepticism - not quite why sure folk are so adamant that Montgomery wouldn't fit the bill.

[Hibby70]

I've got a feeling that he'll get the players motivated and instill a real good team ethic.

Think the players will understand his demands and we'll see if that helps them start well in matches.

I'm genuinely looking forward to what may come. If course it could go completely south but who knows.

[HoboHarry]

They’re both probably too strong characters for the current regime
Dearie me. :faf::faf:

[Kato]

They’re both probably too strong characters for the current regimeIs Montgomery a weak character?

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[500miles]

:faf:

"Strong Character" = Bipolar disorder.

Very good.

[Broken Gnome]

[QUOTE]It is expected that Montgomery will land the gig, having interviewed well and received positive feedback from the majority of the Hibs’ support. The Easter Road club know to finalise the deal they will have to pay 100,000 Australian dollars to activate his release clause from the Mariners. Montgomery has made it clear to Hibs that if he takes the job he will be looking for them to kick on and to eventually challenge Celtic and Rangers.

[\QUOTE]

That easy option of ambition, requiring money and patience...

[Donegal Hibby]

If McInnes or Robinson were appointed and with the budget we have these days, you would hope and expect either of these two, with more resources, to get Hibs in the top 4 and regularly at Hampden for semi finals/finals. Think most of us on here would regard them as a safe bet. Some others would probably regard them as boring.

If Kensell & Ian Gordon appointed either of these two and this was not achieved Kensell & Gordon would not be blamed and absolved of any responsibility. Most people would fully get and understand if McInnes or Robinson were appointed. Both are logical options and tick a lot of boxes.

However, Kensell and Ian Gordon come with baggage. They were both at the club and oversaw the appointment and sacking of Maloney & Johnson.

This is why I and some others on hibs.net see Montgomery as more of a risk and puts more scrutiny on Kensell & Ian Gordon. Yes, McDermott is involved this time, but Kensell & Ian Gordon could sack McDermott any time they wish.

After two very short stints for Maloney & Johnson things appear a bit of a mess. It's been a revolving door of players in and out over the last couple of years. There has been a huge amount of players poorly recruited and Hibs are burdened by so many players out on loan or still in the squad but don't get any playing time.

If it is Montgomery, I wish him all the best. But if this risky appointment does not work out it's Kensell and Ian Gordon who will come under even more pressure.
There's no guarantees with any new manager we appoint including McInnes or Robinson. . Personally i didn't want either , McInnes for the style of football his team's play and Robinson I just don't see what's so special about him tbh . I think with the players we have , we have the makings of a very good team , we have a good crop of young players too . Lots to be positive about imo .

Hopefully it is Montgomery that we appoint. Young successful manager with a good record of developing young players that plays attacking football will do for me . If Montgomery is appointed Ben Kinsell , Ian Gordon and Brian McDermott should be getting nothing but our praise for pulling off an ambitious and exciting managerial appointment 🤞👍

[Lago]

When I think about overachieving, I try to take an objective view of where we *should* be, based on our size, our spend, and our facilities relative to others in the league.

That places us, if we just achieve what's expected, as fifth and regular semi-semi finalists in the cups.

The logic there, which I think it's pretty robust - is that Celtic should (add generally do) win everything. When they don't, it would be reasonable to expect Rangers as the next biggest club by a distance to win what Celtic haven't.

Hearts and Aberdeen spend more than us, but not to a level that we can't at least keep up but generally you'd think the top four would consist of Celtic, Rangers, Hearts, and Aberdeen (with places 3 and 4 up for grabs).

So for us to over-achieve, we should finish third or above. I think we're close enough to fourth in spend that it would be a realistic target, even if we're at a slight disadvantage to the clubs mentioned.

Winning a cup is an overachievement. With Celtic and Rangers in the competitions every season, it should be an anomaly for anyone outside of those two to win it (which we've seen in recent seasons with Celtic doing multiple trebles).

So overachievement would be third, adding a cup would be a cherry on top.

Jack Ross overachieved. Lee Johnson just met the minimum expected for league finish and massively underachieved in the cups.
Excellent post, my main question would be what does Hibs have to do to do to generate the income necessary to match the spend of Hearts & Aberdeen?

[Lago]

They’re both probably too strong characters for the current regime
Not one of your more sensible pronouncements :greengrin

[Caversham Green]

Is Montgomery a weak character?

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Not if his playing career is anything to go by. Just as hard as Neil Lennon on the pitch.

[Alex Trager]

That's fair enough mate . Had a look in the CCM FORUM to see what was being said about Montgomery .
https://www.ccmfans.net/community/threads/our-beloved-monty.7078/page-17

They seem to suggest Miller has beef with Monty

[tamig]

No, definitely didn’t want Lennon back, though part of his time with us was as good a period I’ve had watching us.

Johnson had sucked a lot of my enjoyment out of going to games, I missed more under him than I’ve ever done since I bought my first ever season ticket. The football was all over the place and yes I couldn’t stand him as an individual.

I like what I’ve heard from BM, I think the players we’ve brought in since he was appointed look decent so I’m hopeful as a genuine “football man” he’ll be able to identify a good manager. With Montgomery he’s clearly done well in Oz, his career is on the up, players loved him and more importantly appear to have played for him. The little I’ve seen of him he is a straight talker and while he’s not foreign I love that he’s coached elsewhere and can hopefully recommend some players from Australia. It would have been easy for the board to go down the tried and trusted route, someone like McInnes (who has been my preferred choice since Ross was sacked) but they’ve went for someone a bit different and I’m fully behind them for doing that.

I’m excited at the prospect of NM being our next manager. I really don’t get the posters on here who appear so negative about his possible appointment. Other comments about this being a “high risk” appointment. As others have said, every appointment has its risks.

What NM has done to date is pretty impressive, he appears to be highly rated by many commentators and is clearly on the up. This will be our only opportunity to try and get this guy and we need to seize it. Another successful season for him and I think he’d be out of our reach.

If NM is high risk - its one definitely worth taking imo. We won’t get another chance with him. And he sounds ideal for us.

[Daily Hibs]

If McInnes or Robinson were appointed and with the budget we have these days, you would hope and expect either of these two, with more resources, to get Hibs in the top 4 and regularly at Hampden for semi finals/finals. Think most of us on here would regard them as a safe bet. Some others would probably regard them as boring.

If Kensell & Ian Gordon appointed either of these two and this was not achieved Kensell & Gordon would not be blamed and absolved of any responsibility. Most people would fully get and understand if McInnes or Robinson were appointed. Both are logical options and tick a lot of boxes.

However, Kensell and Ian Gordon come with baggage. They were both at the club and oversaw the appointment and sacking of Maloney & Johnson.

This is why I and some others on hibs.net see Montgomery as more of a risk and puts more scrutiny on Kensell & Ian Gordon. Yes, McDermott is involved this time, but Kensell & Ian Gordon could sack McDermott any time they wish.

After two very short stints for Maloney & Johnson things appear a bit of a mess. It's been a revolving door of players in and out over the last couple of years. There has been a huge amount of players poorly recruited and Hibs are burdened by so many players out on loan or still in the squad but don't get any playing time.

If it is Montgomery, I wish him all the best. But if this risky appointment does not work out it's Kensell and Ian Gordon who will come under even more pressure.


Very sensible post.

Gordon and Kensell set the culture of the club. I'm not sure what the culture at Hibs is anymore to be honest.

We are just sliding along really and hoping for the best.

[Winston Ingram]

Genuinely amazed there’s a debate about Neil Lennon after the way he left us the last time and the pattern of taking very good teams and a seeming inability to grow or even maintain them.

Neil Lennon will not be Hibs manager again and the sooner his mates in the media stop bringing it up the better and mor e dignified for all.

This.

[Hibees1973]

[QUOTE]It is expected that Montgomery will land the gig, having interviewed well and received positive feedback from the majority of the Hibs’ support. The Easter Road club know to finalise the deal they will have to pay 100,000 Australian dollars to activate his release clause from the Mariners. Montgomery has made it clear to Hibs that if he takes the job he will be looking for them to kick on and to eventually challenge Celtic and Rangers.

[\QUOTE]

That easy option of ambition, requiring money and patience...

Not sure if that's just a bit of lazy journalism. The last sentence of the first quote 'Montgomery has made it clear to Hibs that if he takes the job he will be looking for them to kick on to eventually challenge Celtic and Rangers.'

Unless Ian Gordon gives Montgomery a budget of £15m a year to spend on players we aren't going to get within 15 - 20 points of Celtic & Rangers come season end. If we do even threaten to get anywhere close to them another club will take Montgomery from us.

Pure fantasy to even challenge the uglies in the league.

Just get to top 4 and to Hampden regularly. That's realism.

[flash]

Very sensible post.

Gordon and Kensell set the culture of the club. I'm not sure what the culture at Hibs is anymore to be honest.

We are just sliding along really and hoping for the best.

When did we have a particular culture and what was it?

[Hibbyradge]

Very sensible post.

Gordon and Kensell set the culture of the club. I'm not sure what the culture at Hibs is anymore to be honest.

We are just sliding along really and hoping for the best.

Risible. Again.

[hibeerealist]

Was all for taking the chance on Montgomery and seen a few videos/interviews. This one just enforces my thinking we should give him a try. The telling thing for me is the relationship he clearly has with the players, that doesn't come from anything other than good man management.
There will be other candidates, and I'm not saying I prefer NM to anyone else they are looking at, however it is NM we know is close to getting it so been looking at him. Like what I see and hear. Does it mean he'll do a good job - no, there's no guarantees with anyone. Experienced managers that tick more boxes mitigate some risk but there is always risk and can't be bothered with some of the managers that have been round the houses before - some feel a bit stale. Hopefully we do our proper due dilligence on NM and if the club/McDermott feel he (or whoever else) is the right man then the support can get behind them from day 1. I'm glad LJ is gone but don't think he is one that got that luxury


You don't think LJ was supported?

[CropleyWasGod]

Very sensible post.

Gordon and Kensell set the culture of the club. I'm not sure what the culture at Hibs is anymore to be honest.

We are just sliding along really and hoping for the best.

What should the "culture" be?

[Hibernian Verse]

Risible. Again.

Surprised he’s lasted this long without being found out

[Caversham Green]

Very sensible post.

Gordon and Kensell set the culture of the club. I'm not sure what the culture at Hibs is anymore to be honest.

We are just sliding along really and hoping for the best.

So appointing a "high risk" manager (your opinion) is just sliding along and hoping for the best but appointing a mehnager like McInnes is ambitious?

High risk = High reward

Low risk = mediocrity

I know which one I'd go for in football.

[tamig]

They’re both probably too strong characters for the current regime

Deary me. You’ve come out with some corkers on this thread.

[Aldo]

Ok, I get that but did you consider Hearts weren't in the league when Jack Ross finished 3rd.

Also last season Aberdeen managed to finish 3rd and in the long term were the real winners from us beating them 6-0. We went on to finish 5th and Aberdeen 3rd. Did we achieve parity last season or under acheive because last season sure felt like under achievement, hence why LJ is no longer in charge.

This is exactly why I'd rather even have Lennon than NM. Lennon has ambition and would want us to be pushing on. He was raging we missed the chance to finish 2nd, raging. McInnes would be similar, they both understand the potential thd club has and would want us to push on. NM would be another project type and wd dont need that.

Sorry but just catching up with this thread


So you think NM won’t have ambitions?? You are doing him a disservice and you’ve made your mind up he won’t be ambitious by your post.
So your logic is NM or any other new manager that’s not NL or DM won’t push us on.

So no other manager barring NL or DM understands the potential of this club??


Any potential manger just needs to walk into ER, EM or look at you tube videos of the fans signing SOL to understand the potential.

[CapitalGreen]

They’re both probably too strong characters for the current regime

You’re clearly clueless if you think Montgomery isn’t a strong character.

[NGoloGrantie]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230907/841f26434be0654c6cefb767714e4b55.jpg

Very interesting this. Think this is the right way forward. Makes sense why the likes of Robinson or mcinnes are not being looked at.


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[HendoDelivered]

At the point where I would be pretty gutted if it’s not Monty now

[Callum_62]

Malky Mckay won the playoffs.....

:greengrin

[Victor]

Very sensible post.

Gordon and Kensell set the culture of the club. I'm not sure what the culture at Hibs is anymore to be honest.

We are just sliding along really and hoping for the best.

Culture Club, Karma Chameleon, boys in the park, jerseys for goalposts, smashing.

[DIXIHIBS]

Surprised he’s lasted this long without being found out

Think he was found out long ago...just being humoured at the moment😚

[TimeForHeroes]

There are more Jambos here than on kickback.

[DIXIHIBS]

Excellent post, my main question would be what does Hibs have to do to do to generate the income necessary to match the spend of Hearts & Aberdeen?

Agree we should try to increase income but its really about how you spend what youve got surely. Hertz have had money thrown at them through beni and FOH. They've wasted the lot. Spend our money wisely.

[w pilton hibby]

They seem to suggest Miller has beef with Monty

Miller on Monty

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nick-montgomery-would-toughen-hibs-30881512

[Vault Boy]

Show! Me! The! Monty!

[jeffers]

At the point where I would be pretty gutted if it’s not Monty now

It is him. Will be in place by Sunday.

[Keepthefaith]

Miller on Monty

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nick-montgomery-would-toughen-hibs-30881512

Won't click on daily record so not sure if same article but this doesn't suggest anything but positive!

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/nick-montgomery-wont-messed-hibs-27669156

[HendoDelivered]

It is him. Will be in place by Sunday.

Hope so Jeffers!

[Vault Boy]

It is him. Will be in place by Sunday.

Yassssss I’ve been shown the Monty!!!

[Hibees1973]

There are more Jambos here than on kickback.

How do you come to that conclusion.

So anyone with any semblance of doubt regarding Montgomery and that Kensell & Ian Gordon are involved in making the final decision are labelled as a Yam.

I've seen loads of logical reasons on here why it should not be Montgomery. Also decent reasons why it should not be Lennon or McInnes.

No one knows yet who it is, but is a bit childish to conclude that anyone with doubts regarding Montgomery is a Yam.

[CowgateHarp1875]

The very fact the club have flown Montgomery in for the interview suggests there's only ever been one candidate and the Glasgow media have slavered their usual nonsense.

If NM was on a list the interview would have been done via zoom.

Welcome to the club Nick, Let's finish 3rd and win a cup, we have the squad to do both.

[CapitalGreen]

Won't click on daily record so not sure if same article but this doesn't suggest anything but positive!

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/nick-montgomery-wont-messed-hibs-27669156

Why would you click FootballScotland but not the Daily Record? They are the same company.

[CapitalGreen]

How do you come to that conclusion.

So anyone with any semblance of doubt regarding Montgomery and that Kensell & Ian Gordon are involved in making the final decision are labelled as a Yam.

I've seen loads of logical reasons on here why it should not be Montgomery. Also decent reasons why it should not be Lennon or McInnes.

No one know yet who it is, but is a bit childish to conclude that anyone with doubts regarding Montgomery is a Yam.

Why do you assume he was referring to people with doubts about Montgomery?

[babahibs]

Surprised he’s lasted this long without being found out

He's not the only one, there's a few on here, a few with high post counts that have been here for years, stirring things up

[CapitalGreen]

The very fact the club have flown Montgomery in for the interview suggests there's only ever been one candidate and the Glasgow media have slavered their usual nonsense.

If NM was on a list the interview would have been done via zoom.

Welcome to the club Nick, Let's finish 3rd and win a cup, we have the squad to do both.

All supposition. You don’t know how many interviews have been held with Montgomery or any other candidate and how many of those have been on zoom or in person.

[babahibs]

How do you come to that conclusion.

So anyone with any semblance of doubt regarding Montgomery and that Kensell & Ian Gordon are involved in making the final decision are labelled as a Yam.

I've seen loads of logical reasons on here why it should not be Montgomery. Also decent reasons why it should not be Lennon or McInnes.

No one knows yet who it is, but is a bit childish to conclude that anyone with doubts regarding Montgomery is a Yam.

Wibble

[HibeeSince85]

All supposition. You don’t know how many interviews have been held with Montgomery or any other candidate and how many of those have been on zoom or in person.

Two on teams, one in person.

[TimeForHeroes]

How do you come to that conclusion.

So anyone with any semblance of doubt regarding Montgomery and that Kensell & Ian Gordon are involved in making the final decision are labelled as a Yam.

I've seen loads of logical reasons on here why it should not be Montgomery. Also decent reasons why it should not be Lennon or McInnes.

No one knows yet who it is, but is a bit childish to conclude that anyone with doubts regarding Montgomery is a Yam.

Oh hello. Were your ears burning?

[04Sauzee]

Ok, I get that but did you consider Hearts weren't in the league when Jack Ross finished 3rd.

Also last season Aberdeen managed to finish 3rd and in the long term were the real winners from us beating them 6-0. We went on to finish 5th and Aberdeen 3rd. Did we achieve parity last season or under acheive because last season sure felt like under achievement, hence why LJ is no longer in charge.

This is exactly why I'd rather even have Lennon than NM. Lennon has ambition and would want us to be pushing on. He was raging we missed the chance to finish 2nd, raging. McInnes would be similar, they both understand the potential thd club has and would want us to push on. NM would be another project type and wd dont need that.

I can't make out if you are a Hearts fan or just hate Hibs 😁


Barry Ferguson would be a 'project' manager and you wanted him one time.

[Hibernian Verse]

How do you come to that conclusion.

So anyone with any semblance of doubt regarding Montgomery and that Kensell & Ian Gordon are involved in making the final decision are labelled as a Yam.

I've seen loads of logical reasons on here why it should not be Montgomery. Also decent reasons why it should not be Lennon or McInnes.

No one knows yet who it is, but is a bit childish to conclude that anyone with doubts regarding Montgomery is a Yam.

Being triggered by someone suggesting there are Hearts fans isn’t really helping you here haha.

What is it they say? “Me thinks the lady doth protest too much”

[Hibees1973]

Oh hello. Were your ears burning?

Not really, dear.

[greenlex]

Michael O Neil could be available by the weekend.

[Kentao1985]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nick-montgomery-would-toughen-hibs-30881512

Nick Montgomery would toughen Hibs up as Lewis Miller offers inside track on new boss favourite

Millers got his start at Central Coast Mariners under Montgomery and would love an Easter Road reunion with the Yorkshireman.d (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/)Lewis Miller would love a Hibs (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/all-about/hibernian-fc) reunion with "tough character" Nick Montgomery.
The Central Coast Mariners boss is the favourite to take over from sacked Lee Johnson (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/all-about/lee-johnson) have held talks with the Easter Road club. David Gray is in temporary charge but the Hibees are hopeful of having a new man in place before the end of the current international break. Montgomery guided Mariners to the A League title last year and is keen to make the move to the Scottish Premiership (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/all-about/scottish-premiership)

The club are holding interviews this week but insists no offers have been made to any candidates. However, Montgomery's chances are strong, and the £50,000 compensation due to the A League club isn't thought to be a problem. Montgomery's success Down Under with a limited budget has impressed the Hibs hierarchy. Miller knows him well, having been given an opportunity under him at Mariners and ultimately earning him his move to Edinburgh
And the right back is keen to work under him again in the Scottish capital: “It was Monty who basically started my career at the Mariners - he came in and trusted me and allowed me to flourish,” he told FTBL (https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/miller-reveals-how-montgomery-could-be-a-hibernian-hit-599977). “At the end of the day it doesn’t matter who takes over because whoever it is you have to please them.
“But, if it does happen, it would be great to have that reunion with a great coach and a great leader. He was a top player with Sheffield United in the Premier League, came across to the Mariners and won a title as a player in 2012, took over the academy and then the first team who won the Championship last season.

“He did it all on the lowest budget in the league and I think the experience and knowledge he brings with him would be a huge positive. He has a great eye for young talent but doesn’t hand out opportunities lightly - you have to earn like I had to at the Mariners.

FC Luzern's Teddy Okou collides with Lewis Miller
“He’s a tough character - but if you follow his football philosophy and the way he wants you to play then there are opportunities there. We have some great youngsters at this club and it’ll be interesting to see what happen.

“It’s about taking one step at a time - I’ve just really cracked the starting eleven here and it’s about becoming an established player and just letting my football do the talking. I think, as a team, moving forward now we’re going to be hard to beat. I think the win over Aberdeen (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/all-about/aberdeen-fc) is a turning point for us.

“Personally, I’m expecting my performances to get better and better. It’s always been just a matter of game time for me. I trust myself and my ability. It’s down to a team system and how they play and I think I fit into that format really well."

[Skol]

Michael O Neil could be available by the weekend.

Now yer talking

[cabbageandribs1875]

so is it £100k or £50k compo


we(and by we i mean I) need to know

[Alex Trager]

Miller on Monty

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nick-montgomery-would-toughen-hibs-30881512

I’ve read that mate. But there is definitely beef there acc to the CCM fans.

[Hibbyradge]

so is it £100k or £50k compo


we(and by we i mean I) need to know

Aus $100k

[S4uzee]

Deary me. You’ve come out with some corkers on this thread.

Go on

[cabbageandribs1875]

Aus $100k


ta, £51,136. + 41p

[Borderhibbie76]

Lennon is who I want. The other names mentioned so far would all be a disappointment, the polish guy who got ruled out first sounded much better than MontgomeryWell u will also be disappointed then as he never even made the first hurdle, no doubt coz he left us in an utter state and crawled back along the M8 - thank #### we arent giving him another chance to make a mess of us

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[Aldo]

I've said many times that we need a strong minded experienced manager just now.

Barry Ferguson would have been a shout a few years ago when we appointed Maloney, I know who I'd have rather but that's after the fact.

Not sure how you can conclude that wanting some ambition from the club and moving on from players who have let us down time after time in the matches that matter the most is 'hating Hibs'. Strikes me as most are happy to have just seen the club win the Scottish Cup once so where does it go from here? Just exist?

We shouldn't be settling for one solitary Scottish Cup win, we should be expecting more wins from the club. St Johnstone doing the Cup double was a disaster for us, we also lost to Hears in the delayed Scottish Cup semi final that season, yet Jack Ross is classed as overachieving on here!!!

We have under achieved big time over the last 10 years, that's not even a question - I just want to see more ambition from the club and for me, I'm not sure some guy from Australian football is that!


Barry ****ing Ferguson I would have been happier with Barry Humphrey’s. If you think he was the answer before we appointed Maloney then it’s clear you at it.

Your posts have been all about experience this experience that taking the club forward and seeing it for its potential and you mention Barry Ferguson.

You are stating the obvious and any fan of any club outwith the OF wants to win more so just let it lie.

The more you go on and on about this the more I read into it and the more I think you are at it. Constantly going on about us getting beaten. We’re you happy on Sunday?

[Hibbyradge]

Barry ****ing Ferguson I would have been happier with Barry Humphrey’s. If you think he was the answer before we appointed Maloney then it’s clear you at it.

Your posts have been all about experience this experience that taking the club forward and seeing it for its potential and you mention Barry Ferguson.

You are stating the obvious and any fan of any club outwith the OF wants to win more so just let it lie.

The more you go on and on about this the more I read into it and the more I think you are at it. Constantly going on about us getting beaten. We’re you happy on Sunday?

You're wasting your time, Aldo.

:jamboak:

[Aldo]

You're wasting your time, Aldo.

:jamboak:

I know but needs must and all that HR!

[WeeRussell]

Barry Ferguson 😂😂😂😂

Someone wants to go out with a bang.

[eastmainsmsh]

Felix magath still wants to manage in Scotland would bring fozzy with him

[Unseen work]

I’ve read that mate. But there is definitely beef there acc to the CCM fans.

Have they said why?

Miller obviously signed for MacArthur from CCM before we came and changed his mind

Was that classed as a step up or due to a fall out?

[Lago]

It is him. Will be in place by Sunday.
I do hope so.

[JimBHibees]

There are more Jambos here than on kickback.

Not wrong. Maybe they could borrow us one of their three managers

[flash]

They seem to suggest Miller has beef with Monty

Which page is that on?

[Borderhibbie76]

Not wrong. Maybe they could borrow us one of their three managersNot a bad shout they do have plenty to go around [emoji6]

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[HoboHarry]

I've said many times that we need a strong minded experienced manager just now.

Barry Ferguson would have been a shout a few years ago when we appointed Maloney, I know who I'd have rather but that's after the fact.

Not sure how you can conclude that wanting some ambition from the club and moving on from players who have let us down time after time in the matches that matter the most is 'hating Hibs'. Strikes me as most are happy to have just seen the club win the Scottish Cup once so where does it go from here? Just exist?

We shouldn't be settling for one solitary Scottish Cup win, we should be expecting more wins from the club. St Johnstone doing the Cup double was a disaster for us, we also lost to Hears in the delayed Scottish Cup semi final that season, yet Jack Ross is classed as overachieving on here!!!

We have under achieved big time over the last 10 years, that's not even a question - I just want to see more ambition from the club and for me, I'm not sure some guy from Australian football is that!

Barry Ferguson? Seriously? Either you're drunk or you are getting bored trolling and are trying to get yourself mutually consented.

[Alex Trager]

Which page is that on?

They’ve not mentioned why, I don’t think so anyone.

It’s throughout the start of the thread.

[bingo70]

Felix magath still wants to manage in Scotland would bring fozzy with him

Does he not own shares in Rangers or something?

[Hibby Bairn]

I've said many times that we need a strong minded experienced manager just now.

Barry Ferguson would have been a shout a few years ago when we appointed Maloney, I know who I'd have rather but that's after the fact.

Not sure how you can conclude that wanting some ambition from the club and moving on from players who have let us down time after time in the matches that matter the most is 'hating Hibs'. Strikes me as most are happy to have just seen the club win the Scottish Cup once so where does it go from here? Just exist?

We shouldn't be settling for one solitary Scottish Cup win, we should be expecting more wins from the club. St Johnstone doing the Cup double was a disaster for us, we also lost to Hears in the delayed Scottish Cup semi final that season, yet Jack Ross is classed as overachieving on here!!!

We have under achieved big time over the last 10 years, that's not even a question - I just want to see more ambition from the club and for me, I'm not sure some guy from Australian football is that!

Any chance you could change your name to Weekly Hibs or Monthly Hibs and post using the same frequency?

Preferably the latter.

[matty_f]

I've said many times that we need a strong minded experienced manager just now.

Barry Ferguson would have been a shout a few years ago when we appointed Maloney, I know who I'd have rather but that's after the fact.

Not sure how you can conclude that wanting some ambition from the club and moving on from players who have let us down time after time in the matches that matter the most is 'hating Hibs'. Strikes me as most are happy to have just seen the club win the Scottish Cup once so where does it go from here? Just exist?

We shouldn't be settling for one solitary Scottish Cup win, we should be expecting more wins from the club. St Johnstone doing the Cup double was a disaster for us, we also lost to Hears in the delayed Scottish Cup semi final that season, yet Jack Ross is classed as overachieving on here!!!

We have under achieved big time over the last 10 years, that's not even a question - I just want to see more ambition from the club and for me, I'm not sure some guy from Australian football is that!

Jack Ross getting third place was overachieving. I'm not sure why you're struggling with that point or if you're just being obtuse.

You make it sound like it's some bizarre statement, but I explained the logic behind it and so far you've singularly failed to come up with a reason why third place wasn't overachieving other than you want us to be second.

[SaulGoodman]

Any chance you could change your name to Weekly Hibs or Monthly Hibs and post using the same frequency?

Preferably the latter.

Or Daily Pish

[Keepthefaith]

Why would you click FootballScotland but not the Daily Record? They are the same company.

Clearly because of my ignorance 🤣 had no idea...oh I've been such a fool 😋

At least I hope the article makes a good point for me after such foolery...

[Keepthefaith]

Any chance you could change your name to Weekly Hibs or Monthly Hibs and post using the same frequency?

Preferably the latter.

Too funny 👌

[MWHIBBIES]

Ok, I get that but did you consider Hearts weren't in the league when Jack Ross finished 3rd.

Also last season Aberdeen managed to finish 3rd and in the long term were the real winners from us beating them 6-0. We went on to finish 5th and Aberdeen 3rd. Did we achieve parity last season or under acheive because last season sure felt like under achievement, hence why LJ is no longer in charge.

This is exactly why I'd rather even have Lennon than NM. Lennon has ambition and would want us to be pushing on. He was raging we missed the chance to finish 2nd, raging. McInnes would be similar, they both understand the potential thd club has and would want us to push on. NM would be another project type and wd dont need that.

Lennon shouldn't have ****ed up finishing second then. He might want to win and push us on, but he isn't anywhere near a good enough manager to do it.

[Cammy]

Any chance you could change your name to Weekly Hibs or Monthly Hibs and post using the same frequency?

Preferably the latter.

Maybe even Annual Hibs :agree:

[Kato]

They seem to suggest Miller has beef with MontyPeople on forums talk a load of old cobblers, mate. Haven't you noticed?

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[brog]

Very sensible post.

Gordon and Kensell set the culture of the club. I'm not sure what the culture at Hibs is anymore to be honest.

We are just sliding along really and hoping for the best.

You 2 need to get a room! You can always invite Mikey Stewart along for a threesome and have a nice time while discussing Hibs 'identity' whatever the **** that might mean!

[Hibbyradge]

You 2 need to get a room! You can always invite Mikey Stewart along for a threesome and have a nice time while discussing Hibs 'identity' whatever the **** that might mean!

Will they have triple rooms in the Gorgie Hilton?

[brog]

Will they have triple rooms in the Gorgie Hilton?

Thankfully no windows! :wink:

[Bridge hibs]

Any chance you could change your name to Weekly Hibs or Monthly Hibs and post using the same frequency?

Preferably the latter.
Yearly hibs would do, Barry ****ing Ferguson 🤣🤣

[1875godsgift]

Thankfully no windows! :wink:

That should be a really, really safe hotel for Russian oligarchs to stay in then, you would think.... :cool2:

[Iain G]

Barry ****ing Ferguson I would have been happier with Barry Humphrey’s. If you think he was the answer before we appointed Maloney then it’s clear you at it.

Your posts have been all about experience this experience that taking the club forward and seeing it for its potential and you mention Barry Ferguson.

You are stating the obvious and any fan of any club outwith the OF wants to win more so just let it lie.

The more you go on and on about this the more I read into it and the more I think you are at it. Constantly going on about us getting beaten. We’re you happy on Sunday?

So a thick as **** manager, throw in Kenny Miller as his assistant and they may rustle up one braincell between them. Barry Ferguson who got homesick (or Hunsick) in Blackburn 🤣

[Aldo]

So a thick as **** manager, throw in Kenny Miller as his assistant and they may rustle up one braincell between them. Barry Ferguson who got homesick (or Hunsick) in Blackburn [emoji1787]

Brilliant. Made me chuckle [emoji1787]

[scm70nyd1973]

So a thick as **** manager, throw in Kenny Miller as his assistant and they may rustle up one braincell between them. Barry Ferguson who got homesick (or Hunsick) in Blackburn 🤣

Getting one between them is surely pushing it to be fair - the said brain cell would only be of any use in a Lodge renewal.

Imagine - just imagine - if BF were to announced as our new Manager - bizarre as it would seem, a yearly supply of popcorn and a comfy seat purchase would almost be worthwhile for something like this to come to fruition. An absolutely mind blowing suggestion 😂

[superfurryhibby]

I’ve read that mate. But there is definitely beef there acc to the CCM fans.

The beef is that Miller signed a pre- contract with another club, left CCM and then joined Hibs. The other club were paid a fee by Hibs. He possibly disappointed CCM fans, that’s football.

[Forza Fred]

Are we there yet

Nearly, not long now.

[007]

The beef is that Miller signed a pre- contract with another club, left CCM and then joined Hibs. The other club were paid a fee by Hibs. He possibly disappointed CCM fans, that’s football.

Is it Montgomery or the fans that's supposedly got a beef with Miller? Thought I'd read he'd called Miller the best right back in the A-League.

[Unseen work]

Is it Montgomery or the fans that's supposedly got a beef with Miller? Thought I'd read he'd called Miller the best right back in the A-League.

Montgomery 100% did call him that. I listened to either an interview or podcast and he was going through the players that had left and mentioned how they lost Miller who was the best right back.

Never sounded like he had any issue

[stokesmessiah]

They seem to suggest Miller has beef with Monty

I read through that and didn’t see anyone suggest beef!?

[Forza Fred]

Hearing whispers that our new manager will be announced today (Friday) and that the announcement will go off with a bang!

[tonyrougier123]

Hearing whispers that our new manager will be announced today (Friday) and that the announcement will go off with a bang!

I hope they take the time needed to get the right guy. No more yes men like heckingbottom maloney and Lee Johnson please. 🙏🏻

[Billyy]

Hearing whispers that our new manager will be announced today (Friday) and that the announcement will go off with a bang!

1pm UK time

[worcesterhibby]

I didn’t mean any malice by it, I just personally thought he came off as a tube. I also thought his media nonsense as managerial guff.

When we beat hearts at ER, he tried to get a clap on the pitch to no avail. He then came up to the bar afterwards, where I’ve never seen such an awkward reception to someone we should all be supporting.

I’ll retract TD on reflection, as you’re right - that is nasty. Can I say tube? 😂

I have no problem with you calling him a tube..other than I thought it was spelled "choob" !

[Alex Trager]

People on forums talk a load of old cobblers, mate. Haven't you noticed?

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What?

I think you’re making that up!

Na but seriously, there must be something in it. I can’t be arsed making an account and then asking them but I did notice that one of them has ana ccount called @renton here.

I don’t know if he could provide details on it?

[Alex Trager]

I read through that and didn’t see anyone suggest beef!?

Post 23: ‘ The only attraction for Monty going to Hibs would be so he could sack Lewis Miller.’

Post 117: ‘ The only funny thing about this would be the look on Lewis Millers face, when he finds out Monty & Serg are taking over. Nizzy off in January then?’

Post 138: ‘ 1st January...come in Lewis, I've got some news for you, you've been sold to McArthur! Actually seems popular there, used him for the covershot on their most recent match.’


Post 230: ‘ Lewis must be having nightmares’


Post 244: ‘ Miller may also poison the well given their history, one bad apple spoils the barrel as the saying goes’.

[JimBHibees]

Personally I’d be placing all blame on Kensell and Gordon if they hired a middling manager, like McInnes or Robinson, and they underachieved. The chance to appoint a young, ambitious and relatively successful manager fills me with much more hope and excitement than your run of the mill “knows the Scottish game” merry-go-round manager.

No Hibby would call themselves your username imo

[scm70nyd1973]

No Hibby would call themselves your username imo

Other than really bad results I don’t think there has been anything more annoying and unjustified in my lifetime of supporting HIBS than the use of the word “Hib#e@*%“. Any HIBS fan using or saying this word needs to have a right good look at themselves - I’m sorry but it is just ridiculous and I will never change my view on it 😡

[stokesmessiah]

Post 23: ‘ The only attraction for Monty going to Hibs would be so he could sack Lewis Miller.’

Post 117: ‘ The only funny thing about this would be the look on Lewis Millers face, when he finds out Monty & Serg are taking over. Nizzy off in January then?’

Post 138: ‘ 1st January...come in Lewis, I've got some news for you, you've been sold to McArthur! Actually seems popular there, used him for the covershot on their most recent match.’


Post 230: ‘ Lewis must be having nightmares’


Post 244: ‘ Miller may also poison the well given their history, one bad apple spoils the barrel as the saying goes’.

Apologies, I hadn’t noticed the link started me nearer the end!

[Alex Trager]

Apologies, I hadn’t noticed the link started me nearer the end!

No worries mate. Bit weird, I may be looking into it a bit much and what others have said could make sense re his leaving them leaving a bitter taste.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

The beef is that Miller signed a pre- contract with another club, left CCM and then joined Hibs. The other club were paid a fee by Hibs. He possibly disappointed CCM fans, that’s football.

Who did that up here? Hearts , Wigan/Bolton, Huns?

[Callum_62]

Hearing whispers that our new manager will be announced today (Friday) and that the announcement will go off with a bang!Is that a Mike Phelan hint?

[emoji54]

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[Hibernian Verse]

Hearing whispers that our new manager will be announced today (Friday) and that the announcement will go off with a bang!

Surprised we're taking Bojang back

[Forza Fred]

No Hibby would call themselves your username imo

They’re getting more blatant or plain sillier by the day.

[04Sauzee]

Hearing whispers that our new manager will be announced today (Friday) and that the announcement will go off with a bang!

So things definitely picked up your end Fred? Hopefully get an announcement soon then.

[Forza Fred]

So things definitely picked up your end Fred? Hopefully get an announcement soon then.

The post gives a clue as to what time it will be.

[greenpaper55]

I think he’s coming by boat !

[Forza Fred]

13:00?

Yep, just as the one o’clock gun goes off😉

[bingo70]

Is that a Mike Phelan hint?

[emoji54]

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What’s that Mike Phelan hint there?

[Brightside]

The post gives a clue as to what time it will be.

Has it already happened in Oz? 😂

[Hibbyradge]

I hope they take the time needed to get the right guy. No more yes men like heckingbottom maloney and Lee Johnson please. 🙏🏻

Yes men? :hilarious

In what way were they "yes men"?

And how does someone who's not a "yes man" behave?

[04Sauzee]

The post gives a clue as to what time it will be.

Yeah I get that but they were just whispers 🤔unless they are loud whispers 😁

[Callum_62]

What’s that Mike Phelan hint there?Wasn't he the one that burst the balloon on the bench and Fergie crapped himself

Phelan and Monty know each other well too

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[blackpoolhibs]

Surprised we're taking Bojang back

I'm hearing Barry Ferguson as assistant manager.

[04Sauzee]

What’s that Mike Phelan hint there?

Still funny to this day 🤣

https://youtu.be/450RJElmlQw?si=Ozqgeu11cM_ZXPuV

[BoomtownHibees]

I'm hearing Barry Ferguson as assistant manager.

At last, a strong minded individual

[Keepthefaith]

No Hibby would call themselves your username imo

Agreed. He's at it. Best ignored and we'll see how much he posts when we beat his mob in the derby...

[Forza Fred]

Yeah I get that but they were just whispers 🤔unless they are loud whispers 😁

Guess if we hear it circa 1pm it’s a yell….and if it doesn’t then I need to press my ear harder against the keyhole, but I have no reason to doubt it’s not a yell.

[bingo70]

Wasn't he the one that burst the balloon on the bench and Fergie crapped himself

Phelan and Monty know each other well too

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Ah right enough. Podcast I listened to Montgomery was raving about him so that would make sense.

Would certainly be a strong management team if we can get Montgomery, the great Raimondo and Mike Phelan all on board.

[blackpoolhibs]

At last, a strong minded individual

My thoughts exactly, perhaps Bob Malcolm can come in and replace SDG as our set piece coach.

[Since452]

My thoughts exactly, perhaps Bob Malcolm can come in and replace SDG as our set piece coach.

Alan McGregor as goalkeeping coach. Then they could all sit on the bench giving each other the finger during games :rolleyes:

[Hibbyradge]

Alan McGregor as goalkeeping coach. Then they could all sit on the bench giving each other the finger during games :rolleyes:

Hey!

This is a family board, ffs.

[Since452]

Hey!

This is a family board, ffs.

:greengrin

[ChilliEater]

Has it already happened in Oz? 😂

4.25 here in Perth and I've known who the new manager is for nearly 3 and a half hours now. Sworn to secrecy though 😁

[Aldo]

I'm hearing Barry Ferguson as assistant manager.

[emoji2960]
Someone on here will be happy!

[Since90+2]

The guy who Hearts just had in looked like a strong character? Frank something?

I'd maybe give him the gig.

[scm70nyd1973]

[emoji2960]
Someone on here will be happy!

Mibbies naw 😂

[LancsHibs]

I'm hearing Barry Ferguson as assistant manager.

No cheerleaders thanks!:dancer:

[Donegal Hibby]

Still funny to this day ��

https://youtu.be/450RJElmlQw?si=Ozqgeu11cM_ZXPuV
Thanks for sharing , forgot all about that ! ��

[One Day Soon]

You turn your back on a thread for a day or two and suddenly it's like a bar brawl scene from Road House...

[Hillsidehibby]

Going to my Dentist in Montgomery Street today. That’s it confirmed then.

[Springbank]

I'm off to the staunch Nail Bar to get an update

[SHODAN]

Two weeks away.

[flash]

Just suppose we have a press conference and it's Lennon who walks out as new manager.

Imagine all the people going nuts.

[Callum_62]

Just suppose we have a press conference and it's Lennon who walks out as new manager.

Imagine all the people going nuts.Neil Francis Lennon.

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[Callum_62]

Just suppose we have a press conference and it's Lennon who walks out as new manager.

Imagine all the people going nuts.Imagine we have a press conference and it's Barry Ferguson who walks out as our new manager

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[brog]

At last, a strong minded individual

The 'minded' part's a stretch!

[leith lynx]

Going to my Dentist in Montgomery Street today. That’s it confirmed then.

1pm appointment?

[flash]

Imagine we have a press conference and it's Barry Ferguson who walks out as our new manager

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He didn't fit in with my crap joke.

[SHODAN]

Imagine we have a press conference and it's Barry Ferguson who walks out as our new manager

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Imagine we have a press conference and it's Lee Johnson who walks out as our new manager

[PatHead]

Wonder how fans will feel if it isn't Monty? How disappointed will we feel and will everyone give the new incumbent a fair chance?
I remember when Alex Miller was appointed and everyone expected Terry Christie.

[TrinityHibby]

Wonder how fans will feel if it isn't Monty? How disappointed will we feel and will everyone give the new incumbent a fair chance?
I remember when Alex Miller was appointed and everyone expected Terry Christie.

or Mowbray when Alan Kernaghan and Jambo Preston were strongly touted :confused:

[CallumLaidlaw]

or Mowbray when Alan Kernaghan and Jambo Preston were strongly touted :confused:

Calderwood when Steve Clarke was expected has got to be the worst.


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[Dublin07]

or Mowbray when Alan Kernaghan and Jambo Preston were strongly touted :confused:

Kernaghan was odds on. Mowbray had never managed and we all thought what are they doing. He turned out not too bad.

[Donegal Hibby]

Was there anyone else mentioned for the Hibs job when butcher got it ?

[sorryfolks]

Agreed. He's at it. Best ignored and we'll see how much he posts when we beat his mob in the derby...
Season ticket holder in the East for the last 8 years actually. I stand by my point that hiring a run of the mill journeyman manager doesn’t excite me the same way that hiring a young up and coming manager does. Out of all the candidates mentioned Montgomery seems to tick all the boxes that I want out of a Hibs manager. I understand that other people have differing opinions and want a “safe paid of hands” so to speak, but personally I think if a candidate like Montgomery is available then Hibs should absolutely take the risk in appointing him with the hope he can push us on and take us to the next level.

And apologies to anyone who finds my username offensive. I don’t take myself too seriously, and certainly don’t get up in arms about a tongue and cheek phrase used by other fans to poke fun at Hibs. As SJM said in his interview straight after the cup final “Aye we’ve Hibsed It”. Hopefully with a new man in charge we can kick on and use it more often to ram it down the throats of the rest of the league.

[TrinityHibby]

Was there anyone else mentioned for the Hibs job when butcher got it ?
Not that I can recall…..Fenlon resigned after a derby defeat and Rod Petrie headhunted Butcher to bring his winning mentality to Hibs ……what could possibly go wrong?

[CapitalGreen]

Was there anyone else mentioned for the Hibs job when butcher got it ?

There was debate around whether Jimmy Nicholl should get it permanently but when Terry Butcher’s ICT beat us while Nicholl was in temporary charge that chat died down.

[Hibee87]

Calderwood when Steve Clarke was expected has got to be the worst.


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The memory might be wrong but was Steve Clarke not all but signed then at the last minute Hibs moved the goal posts regarding something like a transfer budget that had been previously agreed? To which Clarke then told us to bolt

[Hibbyradge]

Just suppose we have a press conference and it's Lennon who walks out as new manager.

Imagine all the people going nuts.

Or Jack Ross.

[bingo70]

Or Jack Ross.

Me and you could fall out today Radge

[Hibbyradge]

Wonder how fans will feel if it isn't Monty? How disappointed will we feel and will everyone give the new incumbent a fair chance?
I remember when Alex Miller was appointed and everyone expected Terry Christie.

I'm against all the names mentioned so far so I won't be any more disappointed with any of them.

[Since452]

Or Jack Ross.

Champagne on ice :hyper

[Since452]

Wonder how fans will feel if it isn't Monty? How disappointed will we feel and will everyone give the new incumbent a fair chance?
I remember when Alex Miller was appointed and everyone expected Terry Christie.

I'm not wanting Montgomory so i'd be pleasantly surprised.

[flash]

Or Jack Ross.

Last time I try to get in on the pun action.

I have started a serious debate instead!

[Hibbyradge]

Last time I try to get in on the pun action.

I have started a serious debate instead!

All it takes is the slightest hint of an opportunity.

[Springbank]

I'm not wanting Montgomory so i'd be pleasantly surprised.

Why would anyone want a guy who takes an underdog team, with a budget that opponents can dwarf, and harnesses the talents of maverick players, to bring about a 6-1 win in a cup final. That's not what I want at all.

Oh hang on.

It's actually exactly what I'm after, sorry. My mistake!

[Posh Swanny]

Last time I try to get in on the pun action.

I have started a serious debate instead!

Just live your life in peace mate.

[Hibees1973]

Season ticket holder in the East for the last 8 years actually. I stand by my point that hiring a run of the mill journeyman manager doesn’t excite me the same way that hiring a young up and coming manager does. Out of all the candidates mentioned Montgomery seems to tick all the boxes that I want out of a Hibs manager. I understand that other people have differing opinions and want a “safe paid of hands” so to speak, but personally I think if a candidate like Montgomery is available then Hibs should absolutely take the risk in appointing him with the hope he can push us on and take us to the next level.

And apologies to anyone who finds my username offensive. I don’t take myself too seriously, and certainly don’t get up in arms about a tongue and cheek phrase used by other fans to poke fun at Hibs. As SJM said in his interview straight after the cup final “Aye we’ve Hibsed It”. Hopefully with a new man in charge we can kick on and use it more often to ram it down the throats of the rest of the league.

Good post.

However, you may have to post a photo of your Hibs badge tattooed boll*cks to satisfy some on here though.

If it's Montgomery it's a meh from me. But I wish the guy all the best and hope he gets up to 3rd, beating The Yam, regular visits to Hampden and competitive in games with the Uglies.

[McGruber]

The memory might be wrong but was Steve Clarke not all but signed then at the last minute Hibs moved the goal posts regarding something like a transfer budget that had been previously agreed? To which Clarke then told us to bolt

I don't think so. Clarke was available and willing but we never made contact. He went on to Killie where as we know he was excellent. One that got away

[McGruber]

Just read the article from McGarry, now at Aberdeen, on Monty. Nothing but singing his praises. Follows everything else you can find from his players at CCM, they had a great bond. Having the man management skills to foster that in a group is half the battle

[James Stephen]

Why would anyone want a guy who takes an underdog team, with a budget that opponents can dwarf, and harnesses the talents of maverick players, to bring about a 6-1 win in a cup final. That's not what I want at all.

Oh hang on.

It's actually exactly what I'm after, sorry. My mistake!

But to most opponents, Hibs arent the underdog team. In fact, they are only underdogs to 2 teams, and if you think any new manager is going to get Hibs competing with them, you will be disappointed.

[GreenPJ]

But to most opponents, Hibs arent the underdog team. In fact, they are only underdogs to 2 teams, and if you think any new manager is going to get Hibs competing with them, you will be disappointed.

We may not be underdogs but part of the issue is other teams believe they have a change against us (even if their squads are not as strong). Lennon previously made the comment about boy band and we were generally soft (at least mentally). I agree with that. The heads go down all to quickly.

It sounds as if one of Montgomery's strengths is man management which could help strengthen the mentality piece and then we should win the games we should be winning, not beating Aberdeen one week and then getting beat of Ross County at home the next week (no disrespect to Ross County),

[MrSmith]

Hope it is Montgomery! I'm full in on this one, as soon as he mentioned getting youngsters involved, won me over. For a while now I've been whinning about our lack of identity and if he can get our youth team involved and playing well, that identity will return - for me anyway! I have never been keen on just buying palyers for the sake of it as the consequences can be seen over the last few years.

[Vault Boy]

Monty Monty Monty, must be funty? In a Hibs mad world

We are Hibs, we are good, we have Celtic on the run

[Vault Boy]

If you ain’t talkin’ Monty then your talkin’ don’t matter

[Since452]

If you ain’t talkin’ Monty then your talkin’ don’t matter

Finish early on a Friday? :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

Finish early on a Friday? :greengrin

:greengrin

[Vault Boy]

Finish early on a Friday? :greengrin

Not THAT early :greengrin

[Skol]

I will be pleased if we appoint Montgomery.

Whoever it is gets my backing even if it’s another left field appt.

If it’s mcinnes or Robinson then they get my support despite my reservations on them and they get a chance to prove me wrong

If it’s Lennon I would find it most difficult, but essentially it’s the same.

If it is levein it will be carnage on here

[04Sauzee]

Lee Johnson to be named Fleetwood Town boss according to reports. Not sure if they are just click bait accounts or if there is some substance behind the story.

Edit...EEN now seems to be picking up on the story.

[Skol]

Neil Francis Lennon.

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Nail Bar Lennon

[Skol]

Lee Johnson to be named Fleetwood Town boss according to reports. Not sure if they are just click bait accounts or if there is some substance behind the story.

Interesting. Imagine if we were appointing brown. Two backwards steps appointing failed managers.

[GloryGlory]

Lee Johnson to be named Fleetwood Town boss according to reports. Not sure if they are just click bait accounts or if there is some substance behind the story.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/former-hibs-and-sunderland-boss-set-to-replace-celtic-legend-as-manager-of-efl-club-4285659

Should save us a few bob of his gardening leave payments!

[Hibbyradge]

Interesting. Imagine if we were appointing brown. Two backwards steps appointing failed managers.

We learn most by making mistakes.

Maybe Brown has done his learning at Fleetwood.

I'm 99.99999% certain it's NM, though.

If not more.

[GloryGlory]

We learn most by making mistakes.

Maybe Brown has done his learning at Fleetwood.

I'm 99.99999% certain it's NM, though.

If not more.

Hibs playing our cards very close to the chest - none of the usual suspects in the meedja are running with announcement of NM appointment being imminent. Normally they pick up hints before it happens.

[04Sauzee]

Hibs playing our cards very close to the chest - none of the usual suspects in the meedja are running with announcement of NM appointment being imminent. Normally they pick up hints before it happens.

This Australian account thinks it's announced today
https://twitter.com/Gatty54/status/1700016969687441887?t=zsX6Wt3BVPyvVVlurZeI8g&s=19

[stokesmessiah]

This Australian account thinks it's announced today
https://twitter.com/Gatty54/status/1700016969687441887?t=zsX6Wt3BVPyvVVlurZeI8g&s=19

I’m fairness he could just be reading that off here…doesn’t sound like he has any actual knowledge.

[Carheenlea]

We learn most by making mistakes.


Using that logic, Benny Brazil should have been in with a shout of winning the Ballon d'Or by 1987.

[007]

This Australian account thinks it's announced today
https://twitter.com/Gatty54/status/1700016969687441887?t=zsX6Wt3BVPyvVVlurZeI8g&s=19

Thought I read somewhere a few days ago there is a board meeting today, meaning the appointment of NM will be ratified by the board. Announcement would hopefully shortly afterwards.

[Forza Fred]

I’m fairness he could just be reading that off here…doesn’t sound like he has any actual knowledge.

I told him.

[Skol]

Normally there is a press conf so journalists know it’s going to be announced just not always who.

[Waxy]

Using that logic, Benny Brazil should have been in with a shout of winning the Ballon d'Or by 1987.

The year he hit a hat trick against Celtic he should have been on the shortlist

[Forza Fred]

Hibs playing our cards very close to the chest - none of the usual suspects in the meedja are running with announcement of NM appointment being imminent. Normally they pick up hints before it happens.

It’s certainly not impossible that I could have been misinformed, but I’d be surprised if I have been.

My source has nothing to gain by being wrong..other than embarrassment and a loss of credibility, and is connected to one of the parties involved in things.

Let’s see what happens.

[GloryGlory]

It’s certainly not impossible that I could have been misinformed, but I’d be surprised if I have been.

My source has nothing to gain by being wrong..other than embarrassment and a loss of credibility, and is connected to one of the parties involved in things.

Let’s see what happens.

Hope so, Fred. Maybe just waiting for all the i's to be dotted and t's to be crossed!

[Blaster]

Normally there is a press conf so journalists know it’s going to be announced just not always who.

Maybe he’ll be announced as starting from Monday and that’s when the press conference will be

[Not In The Know]

Lee Johnson to be named Fleetwood Town boss according to reports. Not sure if they are just click bait accounts or if there is some substance behind the story.

Edit...EEN now seems to be picking up on the story.

BRILLIANT will hopefully reduce our compo!

[Since452]

Lee Johnson to be named Fleetwood Town boss according to reports. Not sure if they are just click bait accounts or if there is some substance behind the story.

Edit...EEN now seems to be picking up on the story.

Pleased for him

[Not In The Know]

Maybe he’ll be announced as starting from Monday and that’s when the press conference will be


Most football journos will be at, or consumed by the Scotland games. We will probably announce today(ish) usually 4pm on twitter and have a Press conference on Wednesday.