Who for next manager?

[He's here!]

He’s been part of three successive coaching teams that have had the sack. Like it or not, he’s only there still because he’s David Gray, not because he’s an exceptional and gifted coach destined to be a number one.

He wasn't brought in by any of the last 3 managers. Who's to say he can't excel if given the chance to implement his own ideas?

[Hiber-nation]

SDG is a highly regarded coach. I can't remember who said it but I always recall a former team mate saying Robson was the thickest player he ever played beside.

And this stuff about potentially tainting his reputation at Hibs is the biggest load of guff I've ever heard. Turnbull, Stanton and Blackley all managed Hibs teams far worse than this but they were still regarded as Hibs legends.

[jeffers]

Even if he were to get it, there is no doubt in my mind he does better than LJ did.

Tbf a shaved monkey wouldn’t do much worse mate.

[Unseen work]

Today proved we have decent players that’s just need coached and given a bit of tactics.

The whole back 4 today was a lot tighter and gave nothing away, no small gaps whatsoever.

Must admit I still don’t want it to be Gray, but any decent manager can 100% get a tune out of this team.

[heretoday]

Gray till the end of the season?

[jeffers]

He’s been part of three successive coaching teams that have had the sack. Like it or not, he’s only there still because he’s David Gray, not because he’s an exceptional and gifted coach destined to be a number one.

It’s such a lazy generalisation and totally unfair. He’s still there because he’s been viewed as a good coach by the last three managers and our DoF. It’s heehaw to do with him being SDG.

[BobMilne]

What an absolute wobbling bollocks statement



He’s been part of three successive coaching teams that have had the sack. Like it or not, he’s only there still because he’s David Gray, not because he’s an exceptional and gifted coach destined to be a number one.

[Greenside]

Better get our skates on.
Looks like the jambos and the sheep might be looking for a manager.

[Unseen work]

It’s such a lazy generalisation and totally unfair. He’s still there because he’s been viewed as a good coach by the last three managers and our DoF. It’s heehaw to do with him being SDG.

In fairness I think there is an undoubted bias towards him.

Ross and his coaching staff got sacked - except Gray
Maloney and his coaching staff got sacked - except Gray.
Johnson and his coaching staff got sacked - except Gray.

All management teams will have had people who are considered good coaches.

We never had a DoF previously so you’ve got to ask who classed him as a good coach.

Fwiw im not saying he’s a bad coach at all, just that imo he’s 100% still in a role because of who he is.

[hibee316]

Why not?

It's already been said by folk on here.
1. Coaches getting the manager job rarely works.
2. Club legends getting the manager job rarely works.
3. He would be getting the appointment on the back of a handful of games. This rarely works out.


I'm not saying it wouldn't work out obviously. Personally, I think we need someone with experience.

And, no, I don't have any suggestions! :)

[hibee316]

Even if he were to get it, there is no doubt in my mind he does better than LJ did.

Glad your so confident!

[brydekirk]

First to learn Youan how to pass the the ball,should get the job.

[Baader]

Better get our skates on.
Looks like the jambos and the sheep might be looking for a manager.

Knives out for Hearts manager, whoever that is. That setup was never going to work, complete joke. They'll be looking for an appointment fairly soon.

[Since452]

My worry is if Gray got the job permanently we'd go on a run similar to Robson at Aberdeen but we'd cut him much more slack because of who he is. It could be extremely harmful. I don't want to see Gray emptied from Hibs in disgrace or having polls on social media for his sacking etc and I'm sure others don't either. I hope he's nowhere near the managers job. He's correctly a club legend and I don't want that tarnished in any shape or form. Hope we stay well clear of that.

[Daily Hibs]

He’s been part of three successive coaching teams that have had the sack. Like it or not, he’s only there still because he’s David Gray, not because he’s an exceptional and gifted coach destined to be a number one.

Yep. If a David Gray Hibs team can win at Aberdeen, imagine what a proper experienced manager could do with this team.

As another poster said, it's time for cool heads, after two failed appointments this is a massive appointment for the club and the next manager will likely see a long overdue revamp of the squad for the long term.

This appointment shouldn't be made on emotion or sentiment, but has to be done with clever heads.

[joebakerforever]

It’s such a lazy generalisation and totally unfair. He’s still there because he’s been viewed as a good coach by the last three managers and our DoF. It’s heehaw to do with him being SDG.

100% correct.

Some on here still believe we should recruit someone with no experience of managing the Scottish game, and prefer us to go outwith Scotand for the job :confused:

Look at Kettlewell who has been very successful with Motherwell, but oh no, persish the thought of actually hiring the likes of him, let's go for a Lee Johnson Mk2 or someone from overseas

After today's result @ Aberdeen & SDGs management of this & at Villa Park on Thursday, Hibs should at least give him the job on an interim basis until the end of the year.

[Pretty Boy]

In fairness I think there is an undoubted bias towards him.

Ross and his coaching staff got sacked - except Gray
Maloney and his coaching staff got sacked - except Gray.
Johnson and his coaching staff got sacked - except Gray.

All management teams will have had people who are considered good coaches.

We never had a DoF previously so you’ve got to ask who classed him as a good coach.

Fwiw im not saying he’s a bad coach at all, just that imo he’s 100% still in a role because of who he is.

You have to remember Gray and McGregor both signed playing contracts for 4 years that only expired at the end of last season yet neither has played for the 1st team for 2 seasons. I don't think it's a coincidence Gray stepped into a decent coaching role and McGregor played a season of development football before officially retiring at the end of last season.

That's not a pop at either of them, it was bad management on the part of the club to offer 4 year contracts to them both but I'm sure there has been an agreement of sorts made with them to guarantee them what they are due for that timescale and possibly beyond.

[heretoday]

SDG always looks miserable on the touchline. I'm not sure he'd want the top job.

[greenlex]

Tbf a shaved monkey wouldn’t do much worse mate.
I’m not sure it would actually need to be shaved to be fair.

[Iain G]

100% correct.

Some on here still believe we should recruit someone with no experience of managing the Scottish game, and prefer us to go outwith Scotand for the job :confused:

Look at Kettlewell who has been very successful with Motherwell, but oh no, persish the thought of actually hiring the likes of him, let's go for a Lee Johnson Mk2 or someone from overseas

After today's result @ Aberdeen & SDGs management of this & at Villa Park on Thursday, Hibs should at least give him the job on an interim basis until the end of the year.

Why should we give him the job to the end of the year and not appoint a permanent manager? Surely he would want the job permanently? Look at how Man Utd failed under their interim manager.

We need a proper, permanent appointment who can plan ahead for the winter transfer window.

[ScottB]

He’s been part of three successive coaching teams that have had the sack. Like it or not, he’s only there still because he’s David Gray, not because he’s an exceptional and gifted coach destined to be a number one.

Not sure how many times people have to point out he is set piece coach, which stat wise we were second behind Celtic for last season.

[Pretty Boy]

Why should we give him the job to the end of the year and not appoint a permanent manager? Surely he would want the job permanently? Look at how Man Utd failed under their interim manager.

We need a proper, permanent appointment who can plan ahead for the winter transfer window.

Giving it to someone until the end of the season or even the end of the year makes literally no sense at this stage. Different if it was April 3rd but it's September 3rd and we have played 4 league games. That leaves 34 league games and 2 cups to compete for.

We need a permanent appointment.

[Hibrandenburg]

SDG always looks miserable on the touchline. I'm not sure he'd want the top job.

I'm not sure how someone looks has anything to do with their ambition.

[Lago]

Giving it to someone until the end of the season or even the end of the year makes literally no sense at this stage. Different if it was April 3rd but it's September 3rd and we have played 4 league games. That leaves 34 league games and 2 cups to compete for.

We need a permanent appointment.
Has Gray got all the necessary coaching badges?

[SHODAN]

SDG always looks miserable on the touchline. I'm not sure he'd want the top job.

He has resting bitch face, don't worry about it.

[Allant1981]

He’s been part of three successive coaching teams that have had the sack. Like it or not, he’s only there still because he’s David Gray, not because he’s an exceptional and gifted coach destined to be a number one.

How many coaching sessions have you seen him take?

[howdenthehibby]

Saying on Facebook that he's left Fleetwood.

[babahibs]

What an absolute wobbling bollocks statement

This

[DH1875]

Scott Brown been sacked at Fleetwood

[FilipinoHibs]

Let's not a big talker. Give to Saint David. He knows the club, knows football is a straightforward game and the players will play for him.

[Mikey_1875]

Wouldn’t have minded him getting a couple more games based on that today but the international break will probably scupper that as we will want someone in before then without an extended trial for SDG. Two bold, well timed subs from him turned an even game in our favour I thought so all credit to him for today.

At least it shows that there is hope for us when set up with a proper game plan etc. The new manager won’t be on a hiding to nothing.

[NZ Green]

Bit of desperation creeping in with the Gray for manger chat supported by McGregor, David Gray has had at least 3 temporary appointments and I've yet to see anything that would convince me he's the man for the job. Big big no for me.

To be fair, being called up to do a Scottish Cup final, then Aston Villa away is the definition of being thrown into the deep end. I agree you cant make decisions off these games but he did pretty well considering. We need someone with experience, but I wouldn't mind seeing him manage a few more games before the decision is made.

[H18 SFR]

How many coaching sessions have you seen him take?

One. What about you?

[Pagan Hibernia]

Awk sure we don't really need a manager. Just give hibs a ball and a pitch and we'll win

[blackpoolhibs]

One. What about you?

How did it go, was a good session?

[JohnM1875]

Montgomery still the main man for me. Hope we get it sorted early this week.

SDG is my second choice now though, I'd prefer him over Robinson.

[Pretty Boy]

If we went down the route of someone from Scotland I'm starting to lean towards Kettlewell.

Instantly improved Motherwell last season and, unlike Robson and Naismith, he's carried it into this season. I know people don't place much weight behind the Sportsound pundits opinions but they were waxing lyrical about some of the football they played today. Listening to a few Motherwell fans they seem to suggest the success has come from simplifying the game and making it easy for players to understand. We are crying out for that.

Not my 1st choice but I wouldn't be upset if he got it.

[B.H.F.C]

I don’t want Gray to get the job just now but I’d prefer him to some of the names being thrown around.

Really hope we get the appointment made this week, give the new guy a decent bit of time before the Kilmarnock game.

Today just showed that we don’t need anyone with any fancy, complicated ideas. Just someone sensible who is capable of motivating them regularly.

[Paul1642]

Montgomery still the main man for me. Hope we get it sorted early this week.

SDG is my second choice now though, I'd prefer him over Robinson.

It’s much more exciting than all the other names being chucked about.

Robinson and Lennon just don’t do it for me. McInnes would be steady and I’d be happy with him but I’m not kidding myself things would be exciting. Gray would be knee jerk after 1 good result.

Not only do I quite like the sound of Montgomery but I also have a feeling he’s our number 1 target right now.

[Silky]

He has resting bitch face, don't worry about it.

He must have to have taken the team at Villa Park. Was there not an issue with Naismith and managing in Europe as he didn't have the pro licence? Gray did, so I imagine he must.

[JohnM1875]

It’s much more exciting than all the other names being chucked about.

Robinson and Lennon just don’t do it for me. McInnes would be steady and I’d be happy with him but I’m not kidding myself things would be exciting. Gray would be knee jerk after 1 good result.

Not only do I quite like the sound of Montgomery but I also have a feeling he’s our number 1 target right now.

Same, think he's our main target and he'll be in place before next weekend all going well.

[Allant1981]

One. What about you?

One session and you have that opinion, jesus, couldn't make it up.

[LewysGot2]

To be fair, being called up to do a Scottish Cup final, then Aston Villa away is the definition of being thrown into the deep end. I agree you cant make decisions off these games but he did pretty well considering. We need someone with experience, but I wouldn't mind seeing him manage a few more games before the decision is made.

League Cup Final :wink:

[cammy1969]

Give me someone new against the same old names, imo when we have took the gamble it’s been a success more times than not, the so called safe bet has back fired give me a mowbery Colin’s Stubbs over a butcher callderwood Lennon any day of the week. How long have the so called safer managers lasted in the last 20 years, would rather take gamble with new untested upping manager who would bring some excitement back to the club. I’m someone who gave up season ticket towards the end of Lennon’s tenure. Just an opinion. Form 1 of many fans


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[Daily Hibs]

Hibs should really be going for McInnes now before Aberdeen or Rangers do.

[Daily Hibs]

To be fair, being called up to do a Scottish Cup final, then Aston Villa away is the definition of being thrown into the deep end. I agree you cant make decisions off these games but he did pretty well considering. We need someone with experience, but I wouldn't mind seeing him manage a few more games before the decision is made.

League Cup Final? What a defensive masterclass that was!?

Let's be honest, Aston Villa away was a jolly for everyone. Gray even commented as such saying it was a great occasion. How is 5-0 down on aggregate a great occasion. Villa bossed it in 1st gear with their kids.

[Scooter]

League Cup Final? What a defensive masterclass that was!?

Let's be honest, Aston Villa away was a jolly for everyone. Gray even commented as such saying it was a great occasion. How is 5-0 down on aggregate a great occasion. Villa bossed it in 1st gear with their kids.

It's a fantastic occasion. How often will these players play in a competive game against Premier league opposition? Probably never again.
And I think the feedback and videos of the fans at villa Park showed they all thought it was a fantastic occasion

[LaMotta]

League Cup Final? What a defensive masterclass that was!?

Let's be honest, Aston Villa away was a jolly for everyone. Gray even commented as such saying it was a great occasion. How is 5-0 down on aggregate a great occasion. Villa bossed it in 1st gear with their kids.

Celtic scraped a victory in the League Cup Final after a couple of individual errors and some very dodgy refereeing. Can't be having a go at Gray for that.

And the game at Villa Park was a great occasion. Anyone who was there will testify that.

[Dashing Bob S]

As somebody said, Robson at A’deen shows the folly of being roped into the caretaker honeymoon. Not suggesting SDG or even Robson won’t prove to be great managers but they are works in progress.

[Gordy M]

Hibs should really be going for McInnes now before Aberdeen or Rangers do.

Was speaking to Killie season ticket holder on Friday, McInnes isnt that popular down there, which surprised me. He hoped that Hibs took him off their hands and they got some cash. Football was poor last season and after a decent start he felt it would revert back to the same as last season.

[ElginHibbie]

Was speaking to Killie season ticket holder on Friday, McInnes isnt that popular down there, which surprised me. He hoped that Hibs took him off their hands and they got some cash. Football was poor last season and after a decent start he felt it would revert back to the same as last season.

He didn't get enough out of Doidge last season, so non starter in my biased view

[Dashing Bob S]

Kettlebell might be worth the weight.

[Cammy]

He’s been part of three successive coaching teams that have had the sack. Like it or not, he’s only there still because he’s David Gray, not because he’s an exceptional and gifted coach destined to be a number one.

Pretty lazy comments. Do you expect every coach at a club to be sacked when a manager is? I can understand it if the manager in question brought him in as part of his 'inner circle', but that doesn't apply to Gray. Gray would have been given tasks to perform and we won't know what the exact specifics of those are. When he has been asked to step up he has had the team organised and the players have been more focused. I'm glad he is still here.

[TelaStella]

Hibs should really be going for McInnes now before Aberdeen or Rangers do.

No danger either of them going anywhere near him. Hearts maybe.


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[Hibbyradge]

It's Scottish football, don't overthink it and make it complicated.

That's what Heckingbottom thought and you know how that ended for him.

It's a lot less simple than people are making out.

[Joe6-2]

It’s much more exciting than all the other names being chucked about.

Robinson and Lennon just don’t do it for me. McInnes would be steady and I’d be happy with him but I’m not kidding myself things would be exciting. Gray would be knee jerk after 1 good result.

Not only do I quite like the sound of Montgomery but I also have a feeling he’s our number 1 target right now.

Think he’s our man

[Haymaker]

He must have to have taken the team at Villa Park. Was there not an issue with Naismith and managing in Europe as he didn't have the pro licence? Gray did, so I imagine he must.

I'm not sure Sir David has a pro license, however I am sure you can be a caretaker and not have one however permanently you have to have one.

[matty_f]

You have to remember Gray and McGregor both signed playing contracts for 4 years that only expired at the end of last season yet neither has played for the 1st team for 2 seasons. I don't think it's a coincidence Gray stepped into a decent coaching role and McGregor played a season of development football before officially retiring at the end of last season.

That's not a pop at either of them, it was bad management on the part of the club to offer 4 year contracts to them both but I'm sure there has been an agreement of sorts made with them to guarantee them what they are due for that timescale and possibly beyond.

That’s not quite how it was - the four year deals were that length so that both players could move into non-playing roles.

From the bbc at the time:

The Edinburgh club say the "long-term plan" for both is to take on "positions within the club that make the most of their experience and leadership qualities".


They’ve both been groomed for coaching/management roles because we wanted to have important “Hibs men” at the club.

You’re right that there was an agreement as to how that would look but they weren’t four year playing contracts in anything other than name.

[Hibbyradge]

League Cup Final? What a defensive masterclass that was!?

Let's be honest, Aston Villa away was a jolly for everyone. Gray even commented as such saying it was a great occasion. How is 5-0 down on aggregate a great occasion. Villa bossed it in 1st gear with their kids.

How long is it since we played a top English team?

When do you think we'll do so again?

Of course it was a great occasion, just like it would have been if we'd drawn Real Madrid, PSG or Bayern Munich etc.

[Stevie Reid]

If we went down the route of someone from Scotland I'm starting to lean towards Kettlewell.

Instantly improved Motherwell last season and, unlike Robson and Naismith, he's carried it into this season. I know people don't place much weight behind the Sportsound pundits opinions but they were waxing lyrical about some of the football they played today. Listening to a few Motherwell fans they seem to suggest the success has come from simplifying the game and making it easy for players to understand. We are crying out for that.

Not my 1st choice but I wouldn't be upset if he got it.

Has a 63% win ratio from 24 games, which is pretty amazing (he’s six wins behind LJ’s total number for us, from 30 less games). This season is even more impressive after the loss of Van Veen.

Played some really nice stuff going by the highlights today, and team spirit seems excellent at Well.

Be interesting to see how their season goes.

[MWHIBBIES]

That's what Heckingbottom thought and you know how that ended for him.

It's a lot less simple than people are making out.

Yeah, he got hounded out and is now in the premier league. I doubt he's losing sleep or thinking he was wrong.

Hecky was a strange one. We done many good things under him. If we held even half our leads, we'd have been delighted.

[Unseen work]

A guy that has a Central Coast Mariners podcast has posted this https://x.com/boycey1105/status/1698508339708104966?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

Which everyone appears to think is in relation to Montgomery.

Here’s hoping it’s done soon!

[Pretty Boy]

That's what Heckingbottom thought and you know how that ended for him.

It's a lot less simple than people are making out.

I would argue Heckingbottom's problem was he did overcomplicate things. He was clearly stuck on a system that the players just couldn't play and was using square pegs in round holes to try and make it work. Scott Allan wide right, Joe Newell wide left springs to mind.

With all due respect to the Hibs squad of both then and now he's working with a far better quality of footballer now and that probably translates into an ability to do things that are more complex.

[Springbank]

Yeah a few rumours round central coast mariners suggesting we're getting their manager & the reaction from ccm fans is its like they've lost the messiah

If it happens, he comes with a great reputation

[S4uzee]

Yeah a few rumours round central coast mariners suggesting we're getting their manager & the reaction from ccm fans is its like they've lost the messiah

If it happens, he comes with a great reputation

It would definitely be another gamble

[Since452]

I'm hoping we don't appoint Montgomery but if we do he'll get my backing from the start.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Market no longer available with McBookie?? ....

[Vault Boy]

#AnnounceMonty

[CapitalGreen]

It would definitely be another gamble

There isn’t an appointment that wouldn’t be a gamble. There is no such thing as a sure thing when it comes to managerial appointments.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Got 3 young girls. Not sure I'd want to take them away from everything they know... could be a stumbling block?

[Gloucester Hibs]

Yeah a few rumours round central coast mariners suggesting we're getting their manager & the reaction from ccm fans is its like they've lost the messiah

If it happens, he comes with a great reputation

Does he fly an aeroplane but? 🤔

[GloryGlory]

CCM fans forum acting like he's gone:

https://www.ccmfans.net/community/threads/our-beloved-monty.7078/page-8

[Brightside]

CCM fans forum acting like he's gone:

https://www.ccmfans.net/community/threads/our-beloved-monty.7078/page-8

They are a day ahead of course. So they’ll already know.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yeah, he got hounded out and is now in the premier league. I doubt he's losing sleep or thinking he was wrong.

Hecky was a strange one. We done many good things under him. If we held even half our leads, we'd have been delighted.

Sure the season he got sacked we were left scratching our heads as to how we managed to lose most of the games most weeks. We’d regularly look decent, miss loads of chances then get sucker punched.

[stokesmessiah]

They are a day ahead of course. So they’ll already know.

Yyyyaaassssss

Well executed joke.

[SHODAN]

Looks like it's happening.

[Bridge hibs]

The lovely CCM fans seem to have quite a high opinion of hibs, not 🤣

[Since452]

Sure the season he got sacked we were left scratching our heads as to how we managed to lose most of the games most weeks. We’d regularly look decent, miss loads of chances then get sucker punched.

:agree: Aberdeen at Pittodrie was incredible. The number of sitters Doidge himself missed. We somehow only drew that game.

[GreenGray]

What a positive fresh appointment if we pull it off. Bit of a risk but all manager appointments are.


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[GordonHFC]

It would definitely be another gamble

To be honest, any new manager is a gamble.

[Hibs90]

I'd suggest if he is coming over, then it is to take a look at the club, the city etc and be interviewed. Rather than being outright offered the job on the spot first.

[Unseen work]

Couple of things about that CCM fans forum

1 - Quite surprising reading so many fans all having such a positive opinion of a manager. He seems a real man manager which is great news for us imo.

2 - They really don’t rate Hibs or the SPFL do they 🤣

[JimBHibees]

Got 3 young girls. Not sure I'd want to take them away from everything they know... could be a stumbling block?

Assume his family would be coming to if he indeed gets the job. A big settling in period you would have thought family wise however he will likely be thinking this is the chance when his star is as bright as it is likely to be in Oz.

[Unseen work]

https://x.com/scout_aussie/status/1698619125374058959?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

Loads of posts on Twitter saying it’s done, he’s flying over and has said his farewells to the squad

[JimBHibees]

https://x.com/scout_aussie/status/1698619125374058959?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

Loads of posts on Twitter saying it’s done, he’s flying over and has said his farewells to the squad

Reliable source?

[Heisenberg]

https://x.com/scout_aussie/status/1698619125374058959?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

Loads of posts on Twitter saying it’s done, he’s flying over and has said his farewells to the squad

Journalist has quoted the tweet saying he’s heard similar. Sounds like it’s definitely on.

[ScottB]

Couple of things about that CCM fans forum

1 - Quite surprising reading so many fans all having such a positive opinion of a manager. He seems a real man manager which is great news for us imo.

2 - They really don’t rate Hibs or the SPFL do they 🤣

I think the impression I got is that they rate him as being much better than the SPL, which is a fair thing, if they think he’s the next Ange etc and I hope they’re right, Hibs is just a stepping stone to a big English job, and they’d rather he went from them to there.

Which I think is probably a bit optimistic really! Do well at Hibs and I’m sure a decent sized Championship club at the least will come looking…

[ScottB]

He ticks pretty much all the boxes doesn’t he? Experienced, but still young and hungry, a winner, not fresh from being sacked etc not experienced in Scotland but likely familiar with our cast of Aussies at the least.

Bring it on. A well thought out, imaginative appointment on paper I’d say.

[Centre Hawf]

If it's him then so be it. Good track record at CCM, has some knowledge of Scotland (assuming so having played Scotland U21s etc). As someone else said there were risks with every favourite on the shortlist and you'd probably unsettle some people by not picking their candidate so to speak. Now we just need to get behind him and push up the table.

[Since452]

He's not who i'd have gone for but got to give the club some credit for trying something different. If it is to be Montgomery then it's a brave, forward thinking appointment. Not sure it's what we need right now though. Time will tell.

[Hibbyradge]

Yeah a few rumours round central coast mariners suggesting we're getting their manager & the reaction from ccm fans is its like they've lost the messiah

If it happens, he comes with a great reputation

He's not the Messiah. He's something else entirely.

I'm sure Russell will agree.

[Hibbyradge]

Looks like it's happening.

They're talking about "if he goes" so nothing concrete yet.

[JohnM1875]

Reliable source?

Followed by Patrick McPartlin. As good as done then!

[Donegal Hibby]

I'd suggest if he is coming over, then it is to take a look at the club, the city etc and be interviewed. Rather than being outright offered the job on the spot first.

I'd agree . Thought it was said we were drawing shortlist of managers to take over with interviews to follow . Be surprised if we appointed someone this quickly tbh .

[BoomtownHibees]

I'd agree . Thought it was said we were drawing shortlist of managers to take over with interviews to follow . Be surprised if we appointed someone this quickly tbh .

I think the opposite, I reckon we will be looking at having someone in by the end of the week, give them the rest of the international break to work with the players etc

[ScottB]

Ultimately we could have interviewed him in a video call, the cost and hassle of coming all the way here would suggest, at the least, he’s a very serious candidate, even the favourite as things stand.

[GreenGray]

Ultimately we could have interviewed him in a video call, the cost and hassle of coming all the way here would suggest, at the least, he’s a very serious candidate, even the favourite as things stand.

Exactly, no chance he’s flying all the way over here if there isn’t a very high chance he’s getting it


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[BigKev]

Glad we’ve not gone down the route of Lennon, McInnes, Mackay etc. if this is true. Obviously highly rated Down Under and he isn’t the polarising figure someone from the Scottish managerial merry go round would be if appointed.

Cumdog also said he was the best manager he’s ever played under. Take from that what you will 🤣

[Hibbyradge]

Ultimately we could have interviewed him in a video call, the cost and hassle of coming all the way here would suggest, at the least, he’s a very serious candidate, even the favourite as things stand.

I imagine we'd pay for the flight.

[bingo70]

I'd agree . Thought it was said we were drawing shortlist of managers to take over with interviews to follow . Be surprised if we appointed someone this quickly tbh .

I think if we’re pro-actively appointing someone already in a job it’s a different process and different to looking for out of work managers who we can sort of pitch against each other.

If we’ve made a move to CCM for him it’s because we’ve done our due diligence and want him as manager. If we’re then flying him across to Edinburgh, it’s not for an interview, it’s so he can get started IMO.

[WeeRussell]

He's not the Messiah. He's something else entirely.

I'm sure Russell will agree.

Oh shut up big nose.

[Northernhibee]

I’m very excited by this appointment.

[Forza Fred]

They're talking about "if he goes" so nothing concrete yet.

Still no whispers out here that it is happening

Think the Mariners fans are just assuming…..

[LaMotta]

They are a day ahead of course. So they’ll already know.

:hilarious

[S4uzee]

I’m very excited by this appointment.

Can I ask the reasoning for such excitement? On paper you could argue Maloney was a more exciting appointment

[Northernhibee]

Can I ask the reasoning for such excitement? On paper you could argue Maloney was a more exciting appointment

I don’t think you could. Maloney hadn’t been a head coach or manager.

He’s taken over a small club with the second smallest budget and won the league within two seasons whilst playing youngsters. The football from what I’ve seen was entertaining too. Emphasis on unselfish play, hard work, team spirit, and managed to get the best out of Jason Cummings whose career was in a tailspin.

[Squealing pig]

Yogi worth a gig til end of season ?

[Vault Boy]

Really excited by this one, hoping the rumours of it being a goer are true.

[Vault Boy]

Can I ask the reasoning for such excitement? On paper you could argue Maloney was a more exciting appointment

Please, make that argument.

[matty_f]

They are a day ahead of course. So they’ll already know.

:faf:

[GloryGlory]

I know it's the Record, but they're saying he's already in Scotland and close to being appointed. I wouldn't imagine he would have flown over without already discussing most aspects of his contract, player budget, etc.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/nick-montgomery-advanced-hibs-next-30856781

[Jones28]

Yogi worth a gig til end of season ?

I didn't know he could sing.

[Hibbyradge]

Yogi worth a gig til end of season ?

You mean worth a gig for 34 league games, quarter final of the league cup and the Scottish Cup?

[tonyrougier123]

Gut instinct says yes on Monty 👍🏻
https://youtube.com/shorts/XUoFb0xJl2M?si=_74DYEq5BfeJ7W28

[S4uzee]

Please, make that argument.

Achieved more in his career
Played for bigger clubs
Played international football
Knowledge of the Scottish game
Was assistant to a country ranked No.1 in the world
Coached world class players

[Northernhibee]

Gut instinct says yes on Monty 👍🏻

The man called Del Monty says yes

[Forza Fred]

Hearing over dinner there is a whisper that he is travelling to meet Hibs officials, but the destination wasn’t Scotland.

Don’t think anything has been concluded though.

Don’t even know if it’s true

[hibee-boys]

Mentions in an article that Montgomery favours a 442, he’d better hope Levit is back up and running soon as he’s the only other CM at the club likely suitable to play alongside Newell as a CM partnership. I just don’t think anyone else has the mobility/technical skill to start in there when using that formation.

[supermcginn]

If he's traveling over from the other side of the world it's not for an interview. Welcome to Hibs Nick.

[Vault Boy]

The Full Monty or Monty Python for the announcement video?!

[Hibbyradge]

Mentions in an article that Montgomery favours a 442, he’d better hope Levit is back up and running soon as he’s the only other CM at the club likely suitable to play alongside Newell as a CM partnership. I just don’t think anyone else has the mobility/technical skill to start in there when using that formation.

I favour haddock over cod, but I can easily cope with either.

[supermcginn]

Achieved more in his career
Played for bigger clubs
Played international football
Knowledge of the Scottish game
Was assistant to a country ranked No.1 in the world
Coached world class players

Yeah but he'd never managed a team? Playing career means absolutely nothing.

[Vault Boy]

Achieved more in his career
Played for bigger clubs
Played international football
Knowledge of the Scottish game
Was assistant to a country ranked No.1 in the world
Coached world class players

None of which was achieved as a manager

[Hibbyradge]

None of which was achieved as a manager

It's still a decent argument.

[BoomtownHibees]

It's still a decent argument.

Playing for bigger clubs or playing international football aren’t really a decent argument to how good someone is at being a manager

[Not In The Know]

A while back I watched some documentary footage with CCM and Montgomery (a kind of behind the scenes thing) for the life of me I cant find it anymore. Does it ring any bells with anyone? it would be good to rewatch...

[Vault Boy]

It's still a decent argument.

Not going up against an actual manager that has overachieved and won silverware in the process it isn’t

[Craig_HFC]

A while back I watched some documentary footage with CCM and Montgomery (a kind of behind the scenes thing) for the life of me I cant find it anymore. Does it ring any bells with anyone? it would be good to rewatch...

Could be this? Was a video about Cummings but Montgomery features quite a bit in it.

https://youtu.be/g5AQkZrZkSA?si=z_iBlVeWKAOj91C-

[Vault Boy]

A while back I watched some documentary footage with CCM and Montgomery (a kind of behind the scenes thing) for the life of me I cant find it anymore. Does it ring any bells with anyone? it would be good to rewatch...

https://youtu.be/WPKPssCK57Y?si=rgmKnPmt6g7KdF6K

[Forza Fred]

If he's traveling over from the other side of the world it's not for an interview. Welcome to Hibs Nick.

It’s not confirmed though…just a whisper….which could still be Tom Kite.

[Centre Hawf]

Achieved more in his career
Played for bigger clubs
Played international football
Knowledge of the Scottish game
Was assistant to a country ranked No.1 in the world
Coached world class players

For what it's worth I liked the idea behind Maloney as an appointment for a lot of the reasons you say, and I actually genuinely did think he wanted us to play attacking expansive football (there was glimpses of it vs Dundee United and even early against Celtic in the way we knocked the ball about) but as the weeks went on we regressed. I think he's clearly a good coach and probably would make an excellent number 2, but he wasn't cut out to being under the level of scrutiny he had here.

[Hibbyradge]

Playing for bigger clubs or playing international football aren’t really a decent argument to how good someone is at being a manager

Alan Stubbs, Tony Mowbray, Jose Mourhino.

In fact, every single manager at some point, hadn't managed before.

[Unseen work]

I really like how Montgomery speaks in interviews, almost reminds me of Stubbs.

But I just think Maloney never struck me as a manager that would command a dressing room. In interviews he would say things that I just thought “he’s not quite getting it”. Johnson, we’ll he just spoke nonsense and made me think if I was a player I’d be cringing and thinking wtf.

Montgomery just seems a normal lad from a working class background who will just speak in layman’s terms and get his point across. You just get the feel he is a proper man manager and players will like him.

[ScottB]

Achieved more in his career
Played for bigger clubs
Played international football
Knowledge of the Scottish game
Was assistant to a country ranked No.1 in the world
Coached world class players

Maloney was an exciting choice on paper - failed
Mowbray was not a particularly exciting choice on paper - succeeded
LJ was not an exciting choice - failed

I think Nick looks an exciting choice with his background, now we wait to hope that he is. To be honest I’d always go for that, the hope, over appointing an LJ, experienced, sacked a few times, can predict how it will go type.

[BoomtownHibees]

Alan Stubbs, Tony Mowbray, Jose Mourhino.

In fact, every single manager at some point, hadn't managed before.

Agreed but still doesn’t make who you’ve played for a decent argument on how good a manager you will be

[Hibbyradge]

If he's traveling over from the other side of the world it's not for an interview. Welcome to Hibs Nick.

I would think it definitely is for an interview. In any case, Forza thinks we're meeting him half way, Singapore, Dubai or Doha maybe.

[Hibbyradge]

Agreed but still doesn’t make who you’ve played for a decent argument on how good a manager you will be

Neither does past performance mean you'll succeed in your next job.

[S4uzee]

Agreed but still doesn’t make who you’ve played for a decent argument on how good a manager you will be

Did you overlook the points regarding Belgium etc? It’s natural to look at the playing career of any manager who is appointed

[BoomtownHibees]

Neither does past performance mean you'll succeed in your next job.

You’re right

[BoomtownHibees]

Did you overlook the points regarding Belgium etc? It’s natural to look at the playing career of any manager who is appointed

No, I saw that

[Forza Fred]

I would think it definitely is for an interview. In any case, Forza thinks we're meeting him half way, Singapore, Dubai or Doha maybe.

Never said halfway..just said it wasn’t Scotland.

Destination was non specific…and could even be wrong

[Curried]

I hope the Monty appointment goes through, and he proves himself successful.
By the law of averages we're well overdue a decent manager.

[worcesterhibby]

Achieved more in his career
Played for bigger clubs
Played international football
Knowledge of the Scottish game
Was assistant to a country ranked No.1 in the world
Coached world class players

played for bigger clubs - it was a manager we needed not a player

played international foorball - we needed someone with a knowledge of club football

knowledge of the Scottish Game - His knoweldge seemed to consist of thinking Ewan Henderson was the answer

Was assistant to a country ranked no1 in the world - it's actually fairly rare that assistants make good no 1s

coached World class players - unfortuntaley Hibs don't have any world class players and he spent most of his time trying to get us to play in a way that was unsuited to the standard of player he had at his disposal.

[Hibbyradge]

Never said halfway..just said it wasn’t Scotland.

Destination was non specific…and could even be wrong

I know. I just assumed it would be half way. There wouldn't be much point meeting him in Amsterdam or Frankfurt.

[BILLYHIBS]

The Eagle has landed

[GreenGray]

Can I ask the reasoning for such excitement? On paper you could argue Maloney was a more exciting appointment

How exactly?

Maloney had never managed this guys just won Australian league with a smaller budget than most the teams.


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[Winston Ingram]

Highlights of CCM winning the A League final if any one is interested

https://keepup.com.au/videos/id/melbourne-city-v-central-coast-mariners-maccas-highlights-isuzu-ute-a-league-grand-final-2022-23/6328511782112/

[Not In The Know]

Could be this? Was a video about Cummings but Montgomery features quite a bit in it.

https://youtu.be/g5AQkZrZkSA?si=z_iBlVeWKAOj91C-

Nice one!

[Fuzzywuzzy]

https://twitter.com/scout_aussie/status/1698619125374058959?s=19

[Not In The Know]

https://youtu.be/WPKPssCK57Y?si=rgmKnPmt6g7KdF6K

Cheers

[S4uzee]

How exactly?

Maloney had never managed this guys just won Australian league with a smaller budget than most the teams.


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Did they not finish 10+ points behind them it goes to a play off. Winning any league is a good achievement but Cummings and Kuol were stars in that league

[Borderhibbie76]

played for bigger clubs - it was a manager we needed not a player

played international foorball - we needed someone with a knowledge of club football

knowledge of the Scottish Game - His knoweldge seemed to consist of thinking Ewan Henderson was the answer

Was assistant to a country ranked no1 in the world - it's actually fairly rare that assistants make good no 1s

coached World class players - unfortuntaley Hibs don't have any world class players and he spent most of his time trying to get us to play in a way that was unsuited to the standard of player he had at his disposal.

Actually top notch summary of Maloney here - the ideas were there but he had delusions of grandeur and wanted us to play like Belgium with players nowhere near that standard....and the result was boring AF football with zero end product.

[Winston Ingram]

Can I ask the reasoning for such excitement? On paper you could argue Maloney was a more exciting appointment

Maloney put the cones out for Belgium on a part-time basis. There was hee-haw excitement.

This boy has taken one of the smallest and worst-run clubs to the Champions of Australia in 2 years

[Winston Ingram]

Did they not finish 10+ points behind them it goes to a play off. Winning any league is a good achievement but Cummings and Kuol were stars in that league

They did. Scudded them 6-1 in the final.

[GreenGray]

Did they not finish 10+ points behind them it goes to a play off. Winning any league is a good achievement but Cummings and Kuol were stars in that league

Your point is? They knocked out the teams they had to and won. I said on another thread fact that he l has a good knock our record makes him more exciting as Hibs best chances of winning trophies are through cups.

A good man manager and coach (which he is by all accounts) will still be the same in a different country with slightly better players.


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[Hibbyradge]

How exactly?

Maloney had never managed this guys just won Australian league with a smaller budget than most the teams.


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People are excited by different things.

I'd have thought you'd have known that by now! :wink:

[Hibbyradge]

Actually top notch summary of Maloney here - the ideas were there but he had delusions of grandeur and wanted us to play like Belgium with players nowhere near that standard....and the result was boring AF football with zero end product.

He's doing pretty well now in a league with a similar standard to ourselves. He's won 3 of his first 6 games and drawn one.

[Winston Ingram]

If he's traveling over from the other side of the world it's not for an interview. Welcome to Hibs Nick.

The Aussie season doesn't start for 2 months. He may well have been in the UK visiting family.

[Borderhibbie76]

He's doing pretty well now in a league with a similar standard to ourselves. He's won 3 of his first 6 games and drawn one.

Good for him but his Hibs team was an absolutely brutal watch so not really sure what point your trying to make mate? He also got relegated from Championship last season.

[jeffers]

I would think it definitely is for an interview. In any case, Forza thinks we're meeting him half way, Singapore, Dubai or Doha maybe.

London I think.

[Forza Fred]

Mourinho and Ancelotti have been sacked as managers. Being sacked doesn’t automatically mean you’re not a good option.

That’s not what my ex boss told me!😂

[Forza Fred]

Record jumping the gun I think……..saying ‘since the news broke in Australia’we’ll it hasn’t yet…not from a credible source anyway….just tweets and fan blogs.

No official confirmation from anyone …yet

[lucky]

Can't say I'm enthusiastic about Montgomery. I'd much rather have someone who knows the league. I'd have thought Robinson would have been the first person we would want to talk too.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Good for him but his Hibs team was an absolutely brutal watch so not really sure what point your trying to make mate? He also got relegated from Championship last season.

He got relegated with a team who weren’t even paying their players. Nobody was saving that Wigan team.

We were brutal under Maloney but when you see the squad he was given to work with it’s no surprise. I’m not convinced many folk would have got much more out of it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

London I think.

No quite half way then :greengrin

[Winston Ingram]

Interview with Montgomery

https://twitter.com/TheMartyMShow/status/1698640851944247767

[Unseen work]

He got relegated with a team who weren’t even paying their players. Nobody was saving that Wigan team.

We were brutal under Maloney but when you see the squad he was given to work with it’s no surprise. I’m not convinced many folk would have got much more out of it.

Must admit I do feel sorry for him based on the team he had.

Losing Boyle and Nisbet within a month of getting the job is awful.

He had to use either Mueller, Scott, Jasper, Wright and Melkersen to make the front 3.

No wonder we struggled creating chances!!!

[ian cruise]

For what it's worth I liked the idea behind Maloney as an appointment for a lot of the reasons you say, and I actually genuinely did think he wanted us to play attacking expansive football (there was glimpses of it vs Dundee United and even early against Celtic in the way we knocked the ball about) but as the weeks went on we regressed. I think he's clearly a good coach and probably would make an excellent number 2, but he wasn't cut out to being under the level of scrutiny he had here.

Someone I know who works with players suggested to me that when Maloney was Hibs manager he lack self belief in what he was doing/wanting players to do. I absolutely agree there were signs that it could be an exciting appointment and if he has gotten over that problem he may go on to have a decent career as a manager.

Another who may have benefited from a director of football when he was here.

[Michael]

Don't know anything about Montgomery to be fair, but reminds me a little of the Pat Fenlon appointment.

[thebausburst]

Can't say I'm enthusiastic about Montgomery. I'd much rather have someone who knows the league. I'd have thought Robinson would have been the first person we would want to talk too.

This is exactly how I feel, can’t believe we’re potentially going to make another left field / punt apportionment and ignore the quality SPL manages on or own doorstep.

[B.H.F.C]

Can't say I'm enthusiastic about Montgomery. I'd much rather have someone who knows the league. I'd have thought Robinson would have been the first person we would want to talk too.

I’m somewhere in the middle with Montgomery. I’d be OK with him. There is an element of risk but I think it’s become abundantly clear that there is no candidate that is going to please everyone or even a majority of people.

Robinson is one I really don’t want so I’ll be happy if we dodge him. He’s one that I think would probably make us more competitive short term but wouldn’t do much more than that. Opinions eh.

[Heisenberg]

Record jumping the gun I think……..saying ‘since the news broke in Australia’we’ll it hasn’t yet…not from a credible source anyway….just tweets and fan blogs.

No official confirmation from anyone …yet

This boy seems fairly credible and he’s heard similar about it happening.

https://x.com/vincerugari/status/1698620147991449643?s=46&t=bdJsB3RQwSUdEBTbKsgiuQ

[Paulie Walnuts]

Must admit I do feel sorry for him based on the team he had.

Losing Boyle and Nisbet within a month of getting the job is awful.

He had to use either Mueller, Scott, Jasper, Wright and Melkersen to make the front 3.

No wonder we struggled creating chances!!!

:agree:

He was on a hiding to nothing here. Can’t say I have any hard feelings towards him and I wouldn’t be all that surprised to see him go on to have a decent career. His time at Hibs tells us next to nothing about his ability imo.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Achieved more in his career
Played for bigger clubs
Played international football
Knowledge of the Scottish game
Was assistant to a country ranked No.1 in the world
Coached world class players

400 games for Sheffield United isn't exactly small time I would suggest.
Montgomery played international football for Scotland, agreed not to the level Maloney did.
How many managers with 'knowledge of the Scottish game' get the tin tack every year? Not saying it's a bad thing, but it's no guarantee you've got yourself a good Scottish premiership manager.

As for Maloney's time with Belgium ... Being assistant there hardly equates to doing the same job at club level, which I imagine is a very different gig. But the last bit is the kicker ... IMO the fact he had only coached world class players was a big part of his downfall at Hibs, you can do things using Hazard or De Brunye et al you simply can't do with the standard of player Hibs can afford, at times it looked like that was exactly what he was trying to do and the players just looked confused to be honest.

[Springbank]

Don't know anything about Montgomery to be fair, but reminds me a little of the Pat Fenlon appointment.

No mate, he's much more like the new Tony Mowbray

Exciting appointment IMO

[Gorebridge Hibb]

It’s not confirmed though…just a whisper….which could still be Tom Kite.

On his way apparently according to my pal in Oz. 👍🙏💚🥬

[Gorebridge Hibb]

No mate, he's much more like the new Tony Mowbray

Exciting appointment IMO

Definitely

[Vault Boy]

Show me the Monty

[tamig]

I would argue Heckingbottom's problem was he did overcomplicate things. He was clearly stuck on a system that the players just couldn't play and was using square pegs in round holes to try and make it work. Scott Allan wide right, Joe Newell wide left springs to mind.

With all due respect to the Hibs squad of both then and now he's working with a far better quality of footballer now and that probably translates into an ability to do things that are more complex.
I’d still argue there were a couple of things that contributed to his downfall that seemed to be borne of stubbornness. His reluctance to play two up front and his reluctance to play Scott Allan in his best position - as you already mentioned. Eddie May addressed those failings in the first post-Hecky game in Perth and we know what happened.

Basic stuff and nothing to do with quality of player. But a lesson learned for him perhaps.

[Souter96Mac]

Getting carried away as he's not even been announced yet, but I notice that two players Triantis (defender) and Silvera (winger) that CCM sold went to Sunderland & Middlesbrough respectively - neither of them has really featured yet. Think the jumbos were interested in Silvera.

I wonder if that was to continue, we would be in a favourable position to get loan deals at some point.

[Forza Fred]

On his way apparently according to my pal in Oz. 👍🙏💚🥬

Aye we seethe Daily Record reports over here too

[Gorebridge Hibb]

It’s not confirmed though…just a whisper….which could still be Tom Kite.

On his way apparently according to my pal in Oz. 👍🙏💚🥬

[Forza Fred]

Getting carried away as he's not even been announced yet, but I notice that two players Triantis (defender) and Silvera (winger) that CCM sold went to Sunderland & Middlesbrough respectively - neither of them has really featured yet. Think the jumbos were interested in Silvera.

I wonder if that was to continue, we would be in a favourable position to get loan deals at some point.

Well I know Silvera has…think he has come on as a sub and may have played in the League Cup.

Good player….wish we had him.

[CentreForward]

Problem is Aussie football isn’t that great so the standards that the CCM guys know are not exactly a good indication. How many players have come from there and done really well in the SPL? Not many and of the ones who have come to either of the Edinburgh clubs recently none have really shone. He will be coming from an average or lower league so these guys mocking us on a CCM forum aren’t really worth listening to.

[Dmas]

Well I know Silvera has…think he has come on as a sub and may have played in the League Cup.

Good player….wish we had him.

What’s your thoughts on Montgomery Fred? decent appointment if it happens?

[Unseen work]

Getting carried away as he's not even been announced yet, but I notice that two players Triantis (defender) and Silvera (winger) that CCM sold went to Sunderland & Middlesbrough respectively - neither of them has really featured yet. Think the jumbos were interested in Silvera.

I wonder if that was to continue, we would be in a favourable position to get loan deals at some point.

Tom Rogic is where it’s at.

Played with Montgomery at CMM and is a free agent…..Montgomery will come in and think we need a bit more creativity…..

Let’s hope anyway 🤣

[Vault Boy]

Problem is Aussie football isn’t that great so the standards that the CCM guys know are not exactly a good indication. How many players have come from there and done really well in the SPL? Not many and of the ones who have come to either of the Edinburgh clubs recently none have really shone. He will be coming from an average or lower league.

Adam Le Fondre has 3 goals in 4 matches after joining from the A-League and he’s 36 years of age

[jeffers]

I wanted McInnes but I don’t believe we were ever considering him. Of the other names mentioned Montgomery is one that excites me. It would be easy to have went for someone like Robinson but we are looking to appoint someone from a totally different league, someone who has been a success elsewhere. He’s also someone our DoF knows well. He’ll have guys at the club who have enough recent experience of Scottish football so that shouldn’t be an issue.

Not that it counts for anything but I remember being a bit meh when Johnson was appointed. This time I’m buzzing.

[Hibby-G]

Reliable source?

I've got no knowledge of that page, but it is followed by Fabrizio Romano, so it's got to have some sort of reliability you would think.

[Vault Boy]

Nicky Monty’s green and white army

[Forza Fred]

What’s your thoughts on Montgomery Fred? decent appointment if it happens?

Yes.

[I'm Spartacus]

Can't say I'm enthusiastic about Montgomery. I'd much rather have someone who knows the league. I'd have thought Robinson would have been the first person we would want to talk too.

Aye ...... just like Ange Postecoglou! He had an in depth knowledge of Scottish football and then the English Premier League right enough. Man United would bite your hand off for Ange just now.

[Since452]

Can't say I'm enthusiastic about Montgomery. I'd much rather have someone who knows the league. I'd have thought Robinson would have been the first person we would want to talk too.

Are Australian managers fashionable now after Ange? Seems we went for Arnold too. I don't want another experiment. I'm still scarred from the Maloney disaster and then there was Pat Fenlon who was a huge success at a lower level as well. Robinson is my pick too.

[Forza Fred]

Problem is Aussie football isn’t that great so the standards that the CCM guys know are not exactly a good indication. How many players have come from there and done really well in the SPL? Not many and of the ones who have come to either of the Edinburgh clubs recently none have really shone. He will be coming from an average or lower league so these guys mocking us on a CCM forum aren’t really worth listening to.

Well there are enough A League players in Scotland just now, so they must be doing something right.

There were 4 former A League players on the pitch in our game on Sunday…2 of them ex Players under Montgomery, with one of them getting the Hibs Tv Man of the Match.

[BILLYHIBS]

The Eagle has landed

Montgomery spotted at Waverley this morning being met by JDH and Chris Cadden

We have spies everywhere

Source:

HibeeLR

[Unseen work]

One of my mates I thought summed it up quite well.

With Mcinnes/Robinson they would come in, improve us relatively quickly but there would come a point where the fans get bored due to the football or they’re in a position where they’re getting by without doing anything fancy.

With Montgomery, there is a risk it doesn’t work out and he’s sacked by January. But there’s that bit where you think maybe, just maybe he can bring back that Mowbray type of feel and football.

No one really knows him, he’s coming in with fresh ideas and a fair buzz about him.

[wookie70]

I wanted McInnes but I don’t believe we were ever considering him. Of the other names mentioned Montgomery is one that excites me. It would be easy to have went for someone like Robinson but we are looking to appoint someone from a totally different league, someone who has been a success elsewhere. He’s also someone our DoF knows well. He’ll have guys at the club who have enough recent experience of Scottish football so that shouldn’t be an issue.

Not that it counts for anything but I remember being a bit meh when Johnson was appointed. This time I’m buzzing.

I was the same. I didn't want a gamble and thought McInnes was the obvious choice. I didn't really fancy any of the other names but Montgomery at least looked like he had some really interesting highlights on his CV. We have some decent players and our biggest issues are being organised and players knowing their role and being driven to perform it. Montgomery comes with no baggage so that is a good thing and I hope he manages to bring the success he had at CCMs to Hibs

[Cat Stanton]

I wanted McInnes but I don’t believe we were ever considering him. Of the other names mentioned Montgomery is one that excites me. It would be easy to have went for someone like Robinson but we are looking to appoint someone from a totally different league, someone who has been a success elsewhere. He’s also someone our DoF knows well. He’ll have guys at the club who have enough recent experience of Scottish football so that shouldn’t be an issue.

Not that it counts for anything but I remember being a bit meh when Johnson was appointed. This time I’m buzzing.

I'm with you.

Quite excited. But my main fear is that McInnes will end up at Hearts and we'll always struggle to beat them...

[Scouse Hibee]

Aye ...... just like Ange Postecoglou! He had an in depth knowledge of Scottish football and then the English Premier League right enough. Man United would bite your hand off for Ange just now.

Agreed. This”someone who knows the league” patter is nonsense in my opinion.

[BILLYHIBS]

I was the same. I didn't want a gamble and thought McInnes was the obvious choice. I didn't really fancy any of the other names but Montgomery at least looked like he had some really interesting highlights on his CV. We have some decent players and our biggest issues are being organised and players knowing their role and being driven to perform it. Montgomery comes with no baggage so that is a good thing and I hope he manages to bring the success he had at CCMs to Hibs
Maybe a return for Jase ?

Would prefer Tom Rogic if doable ?

[Since452]

Aye well if he thinks he can live in Australia and just come over for the odd training session and the games then he's got another thing coming. Needs to live in Edinburgh or he can GTF. Imposter :greengrin

[Silky]

I'm with you.

Quite excited. But my main fear is that McInnes will end up at Hearts and we'll always struggle to beat them...

If we finish top 3, maybe get a cup or two and never beat them I'm not bothered a ****, personally!

[Unseen work]

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/nick-montgomery-plans-hibs-manager-27648579

Good news re his assistant also

[Greencore]

https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/mariners-anguish-as-hibernian-lure-miracle-man-monty-599883

Hibs’ majority owner, Peruvian-born US-based businessman Ronald Gordon, has been impressed by Montgomery’s track record in scouting and nurturing young talent.


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[Dibben]

Agreed. This”someone who knows the league” patter is nonsense in my opinion.

100%.

Doesn’t need to know the league. He just has to not underestimate it!

[NAE NOOKIE]

The only real fact being posted on here when it comes to managers is that in the end it doesn't really matter who we appoint, it will be a proof of the pudding situation. Goodwin was flavour of the month at St Mirren and then crashed and burned at Pittodrie and Tannadice. Stubbs and Mowbray both did really well here in their first jobs, one went on to do the square root of sod all and the other did relatively well elsewhere.

McInnes could come here with his extensive knowledge of Scottish football spend 10 months boring us to death and get the boot. Montgomery could come with next to none and be a Stubbs or Mowbray, we just don't know.

When it comes to Monty there is one fact we do know. If he gets the job he won't be commuting like a few of our managers have.

He apparently has two young twin daughters so the first thing Hibs should be doing is offering to buy / rent him a nice house in one of Edinburgh's better areas ( ideally with a pool ) and offer to pay the fees to send them to The Marcia Blaine school for girls or whatever the posh girls school is in Edinburgh these days. If his kids are of school age I would imagine leaving the Aussie lifestyle for Scotland will be a massive culture shock, not least the weather. We would need to do all we can to keep them happy .. happy family, happy manager :greengrin

[LunasBoots]

I think its a risky choice but understand it as he suits the owners ideas of young players and then selling on for a profit, he does however seem to be a people person so hopefully that's someone the players will enjoy, Hopefully opens us up to a different transfer market though.

[jeffers]

I'm with you.

Quite excited. But my main fear is that McInnes will end up at Hearts and we'll always struggle to beat them...

My worry too. And I think he’d stick around with them for a while.

[Greencore]

I think its a risky choice but understand it as he suits the owners ideas of young players and then selling on for a profit, Hopefully opens us up to a different transfer market though

Any appointment is a risky choice, but I get what you mean. The fact he gives "youth a chance." Ties in with what our club is aiming for. I have to say I am very very impressed with his style of play and reminds me of Mowbray era. Just by the look of him he could command a dressing room. Something maloney or johnson couldn't do.

I'm very excited about him.

[LunasBoots]

Any appointment is a risky choice, but I get what you mean. The fact he gives "youth a chance." Ties in with what our club is aiming for. I have to say I am very very impressed with his style of play and reminds me of Mowbray era. Just by the look of him he could command a dressing room. Something maloney or johnson couldn't do.

I'm very excited about him.

Aye, very highly regarded by the players he manages aswell which can only be a good thing with our players aswell.

[Forza Fred]

The only real fact being posted on here when it comes to managers is that in the end it doesn't really matter who we appoint, it will be a proof of the pudding situation. Goodwin was flavour of the month at St Mirren and then crashed and burned at Pittodrie and Tannadice. Stubbs and Mowbray both did really well here in their first jobs, one went on to do the square root of sod all and the other did relatively well elsewhere.

McInnes could come here with his extensive knowledge of Scottish football spend 10 months boring us to death and get the boot. Montgomery could come with next to none and be a Stubbs or Mowbray, we just don't know.

When it comes to Monty there is one fact we do know. If he gets the job he won't be commuting like a few of our managers have.

He apparently has two young twin daughters so the first thing Hibs should be doing is offering to buy / rent him a nice house in one of Edinburgh's better areas ( ideally with a pool ) and offer to pay the fees to send them to The Marcia Blaine school for girls or whatever the posh girls school is in Edinburgh these days. If his kids are of school age I would imagine leaving the Aussie lifestyle for Scotland will be a massive culture shock, not least the weather. We would need to do all we can to keep them happy .. happy family, happy manager :greengrin

One of the reasons I’m not getting ahead of myself until a source I trust tells me it is happening is partly for what you allude to hear.

Good post.

The change in lifestyle will affect his family more than him, and they will certainly miss their previous life.

[LaMotta]

Must admit I do feel sorry for him based on the team he had.

Losing Boyle and Nisbet within a month of getting the job is awful.

He had to use either Mueller, Scott, Jasper, Wright and Melkersen to make the front 3.

No wonder we struggled creating chances!!!

Fair, but on the flip side Maloney played Hallberg at the back, Scott Allan as a defensive midfielder and his interviews were almost as bad as Cathro. Morale at ER was abysmal by the time got his jotters. An incredibly strange appointment that will never make sense to me.

[Lago]

Agreed. This”someone who knows the league” patter is nonsense in my opinion.
I've said that a few times on here, I wonder if teams down south come out with must know the English leagues, don't think so.

[gbhibby]

Aussie BBQ weather at the training ground at the moment.

[NAE NOOKIE]

https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/mariners-anguish-as-hibernian-lure-miracle-man-monty-599883

Hibs’ majority owner, Peruvian-born US-based businessman Ronald Gordon, has been impressed by Montgomery’s track record in scouting and nurturing young talent.


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Un be ****ing lievable :no way:

[HibsNibs]

I’m very excited by this appointment.

Yeah, me too :thumbsup::flag::scarf:

[Carheenlea]

Of all the names mentioned, I’d be happiest if we just announced David Gray. I think his time has come.

[Willis1875]

I've said that a few times on here, I wonder if teams down south come out with must know the English leagues, don't think so.

It’s chronic,our last 3 managers knew the Scottish league…all 3 were sacked

[eastmainsmsh]

Will back Monty but time will tell would rather have Lenny back

[S4uzee]

My worry too. And I think he’d stick around with them for a while.

Totally agree. He’ll be at Tynecastle by Christmas

[CentreForward]

Adam Le Fondre has 3 goals in 4 matches after joining from the A-League and he’s 36 years of age

He had a very good scoring record there 56 goals in 97 games. Doesn’t necessarily tell us anything about the qua;it’s of their league.

[stuart-farquhar]

One of the reasons I’m not getting ahead of myself until a source I trust tells me it is happening is partly for what you allude to hear.

Good post.

The change in lifestyle will affect his family more than him, and they will certainly miss their previous life.
But think of the cultural side. Arts, entertainment. Proximity to some great cities. Lots to gain. Lots if you can bear to ditch the open toed sandals.

[greenpaper55]

I think he would but hoping for a bigger club in England eventually, this could be his stepping stone if he gets things right.

[Donegal Hibby]

Totally agree. He’ll be at Tynecastle by Christmas

Don't think McInnes will leave Killie in a hurry , more likely you'll see Robinson there .

[I'm Spartacus]

https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/mariners-anguish-as-hibernian-lure-miracle-man-monty-599883

Hibs’ majority owner, Peruvian-born US-based businessman Ronald Gordon, has been impressed by Montgomery’s track record in scouting and nurturing young talent.

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What the actual F?!

[Since90+2]

The only real fact being posted on here when it comes to managers is that in the end it doesn't really matter who we appoint, it will be a proof of the pudding situation. Goodwin was flavour of the month at St Mirren and then crashed and burned at Pittodrie and Tannadice. Stubbs and Mowbray both did really well here in their first jobs, one went on to do the square root of sod all and the other did relatively well elsewhere.

McInnes could come here with his extensive knowledge of Scottish football spend 10 months boring us to death and get the boot. Montgomery could come with next to none and be a Stubbs or Mowbray, we just don't know.

When it comes to Monty there is one fact we do know. If he gets the job he won't be commuting like a few of our managers have.

He apparently has two young twin daughters so the first thing Hibs should be doing is offering to buy / rent him a nice house in one of Edinburgh's better areas ( ideally with a pool ) and offer to pay the fees to send them to The Marcia Blaine school for girls or whatever the posh girls school is in Edinburgh these days. If his kids are of school age I would imagine leaving the Aussie lifestyle for Scotland will be a massive culture shock, not least the weather. We would need to do all we can to keep them happy .. happy family, happy manager :greengrin

Not sure about buying him a house in a nice part of Edinburgh.

We don't want to bankrupt the club.

[04Sauzee]

What's the make up of the coaching staff at CMM? If he's appointed who's he likely wanting to work with?

[Forza Fred]

Un be ****ing lievable :no way:

I emailed the author earlier today when I read that and suggested he change it.

Doesn’t surprise me though tbh, and another example of why I take many media reports with a pinch of salt.

[BenjiOscar]

When Montgomery played in the Scotland B team vs Poland in 2005 the goalkeeper in that match was David Marshall. Also in that side were Robbie Neilson, Barry Robson and Kris Boyd. 18 years late he could be managing David Marshall.

[Forza Fred]

What's the make up of the coaching staff at CMM? If he's appointed who's he likely wanting to work with?

His assistant Serge…..who he credits with unearthing some overseas gems.

Whether he will want to move is another question……I think he would, but It can’t be taken for granted that he would.

[tamig]

It's still a decent argument.

It’s really not. The game is littered with big name players who’ve failed in management.

[007]

The Full Monty or Monty Python for the announcement video?!

Or Field Marshall Montgomery in a Pathé News style.

https://i.ibb.co/gRPVYdF/Bernard-Law-Montgomery.jpg (https://ibb.co/4VYdk2g)

[He's here!]

One of the reasons I’m not getting ahead of myself until a source I trust tells me it is happening is partly for what you allude to hear.

Good post.

The change in lifestyle will affect his family more than him, and they will certainly miss their previous life.

Hard to imagine his family would be upping sticks pronto. A move to the other side of the world for a family is usually months/years in the planning, not a matter of days. He'll come on his own initially I guess, although bearing in mind the precariousness of a manager's role if he turns out to be another Maloney he could be sacked before having to bother uprooting the family.

[bingo70]

His assistant Serge…..who he credits with unearthing some overseas gems.

Whether he will want to move is another question……I think he would, but It can’t be taken for granted that he would.

Interesting that he’s not being quoted as NM’s replacement at Central Coast. Probably a good chance he’ll see it as a good move for him as well.

[04Sauzee]

His assistant Serge…..who he credits with unearthing some overseas gems.

Whether he will want to move is another question……I think he would, but It can’t be taken for granted that he would.

Thanks Fred once again.👍

[NC1875]

I would think it definitely is for an interview. In any case, Forza thinks we're meeting him half way, Singapore, Dubai or Doha maybe.

Kensell needs to top up his tan somewhere 😂

[CapitalGreen]

He got relegated with a team who weren’t even paying their players. Nobody was saving that Wigan team.

We were brutal under Maloney but when you see the squad he was given to work with it’s no surprise. I’m not convinced many folk would have got much more out of it.

Maloney was absolutely clueless in how to set up a team to create chances in our league.

David Gray got the same amount of league goals (7) out of the team in his 5 games in charge as Maloney did in the 13 league games he had without Martin Boyle.

[Since452]

https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/mariners-anguish-as-hibernian-lure-miracle-man-monty-599883

Hibs’ majority owner, Peruvian-born US-based businessman Ronald Gordon, has been impressed by Montgomery’s track record in scouting and nurturing young talent.


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Jeezy peeps man

[Since452]

I'm with you.

Quite excited. But my main fear is that McInnes will end up at Hearts and we'll always struggle to beat them...

So nothing much would change then?

[supermcginn]

It’s really not. The game is littered with big name players who’ve failed in management.

Exactly, it means nothing. Mourinho was only a translator and he done ok!

[Paulie Walnuts]

Maloney was absolutely clueless in how to set up a team to create chances in our league.

David Gray got the same amount of league goals (7) out of the team in his 5 games in charge as Maloney did in the 13 league games he had without Martin Boyle.

He didn’t get a lot of goals, we were fairly solid defensively though and when you see the forward players we had, it’s no surprise that’s the route he decided to go down.

Points total wise, I really doubt most folk would have got all that much more.

David Gray also got all his goals playing in the bottom 6 with the majority of them coming in one dead rubber game where our opponents played a weakened team in preparation for their relegation playoffs. Before that game rolled round we weren’t scoring many goals under him either.

[Springbank]

But think of the cultural side. Arts, entertainment. Proximity to some great cities. Lots to gain. Lots if you can bear to ditch the open toed sandals.

From the family point of view, lots to be said for Edinburgh in terms of having world top 20 Universities (Edinburgh Uni and then you've got St Andrews an hour away, that's knocked Oxford & Cambridge off top spot in recent years), there's loads of great schools, it's safe, walkable, good quality of life (if you can afford the housing etc, which elite sports guys generally can), and an international European capital city (both historically and soon-to-be-again in the very very near future)

[JimBHibees]

One of the reasons I’m not getting ahead of myself until a source I trust tells me it is happening is partly for what you allude to hear.

Good post.

The change in lifestyle will affect his family more than him, and they will certainly miss their previous life.

Yep an enormous culture shock.

[007]

Don't think McInnes will leave Killie in a hurry , more likely you'll see Robinson there .

Agree, I think they'll end up with Robinson, after binning Frankie Boy and then Naismith a wee while later.

[JimBHibees]

Interesting that he’s not being quoted as NM’s replacement at Central Coast. Probably a good chance he’ll see it as a good move for him as well.

He is Portuguese so fair chance he would see this as an opportunity to make it in Europe also. Used to be at Benfica academy.

[Smartie]

One of the reasons I’m not getting ahead of myself until a source I trust tells me it is happening is partly for what you allude to hear.

Good post.

The change in lifestyle will affect his family more than him, and they will certainly miss their previous life.

In his shoes, I wouldn’t be in a rush to swap Australia for Brexit Britain.

We might be a stepping stone to big bucks in England and Edinburgh’s a decent place to live if you have pots of cash but this isn’t a move you make lightly.

[raeburnhibs]

Or Field Marshall Montgomery in a Pathé News style.

that's guy in a tank, but its not Montgomery

https://i.ibb.co/gRPVYdF/Bernard-Law-Montgomery.jpg (https://ibb.co/4VYdk2g)
thats a guy in a tank but its not Montgomery

[Since452]

He is Portuguese so fair chance he would see this as an opportunity to make it in Europe also. Used to be at Benfica academy.

Jair on the wing :rolleyes:

[JimBHibees]

In his shoes, I wouldn’t be in a rush to swap Australia for Brexit Britain.

We might be a stepping stone to big bucks in England and Edinburgh’s a decent place to live if you have pots of cash but this isn’t a move you make lightly.

Assume his thinking will be an ideal time career wise to come back to UK. Unlikely his star will be as bright as it is now in Aus. Good job here English teams will start to take notice.

[JimBHibees]

Jair on the wing :rolleyes:

Possibly :greengrin