Who for next manager?

[Brightside]

Well they didn’t seem to take it as personally as you.

Again - just like LJ. I'm not taking it personally. I don't like him. And more importantly he's an awful football manager as per all available evidence.

[Walter]

It's a strong no for me

[CapitalGreen]

What’s the hibs stats for prem only.

Do cups not count? They are the realistically the only competition we have a chance of winning.

[B.H.F.C]

Again - just like LJ. I'm not taking it personally. I don't like him. And more importantly he's an awful football manager as per all available evidence.

I suppose he’s awful if you ignore all the evidence of the good things he’s done.

I probably wouldn’t have been in favour of appointing him but what you are saying is just completely unbalanced.

[JimBHibees]

Lennon also blamed him and Paul for the hearts defeat. Wrong studs night!

To be fair Lewis did have a bit of a mare that night miscontrolled for the first goal and caught out for the second.

[WhileTheChief..]

So i wonder then if Lennon will be announced sometime today?
No point in wasting any time is there.

My guess is they will wait until Friday.

Doesn’t make sense for the new manger to take charge against Villa.

Get that out the way then we can all start to look forward with some optimism again. t’s gonna be brilliant.

[neil7908]

I was delighted with Lennon when he was appointed first time around.

But now? Not for me.

We know the script. Short term he'd probably give us a wee boost. But as soon as he didn't get his way with a signing, or had an issue with a player, it goes nuclear and he self destructs very quickly.

I'm unsure what about the man has changed since we last sacked him.

If he gets the gig I'll of course back him but if we are genuinely interested I hope we ask him some frank questions about his behavior, how he'll deal with things when they don't go his way.

We're very much in the definition of insanity territory here.

[JohnM1875]

My guess is they will wait until Friday.

Doesn’t make sense for the new manger to take charge against Villa.

Get that out the way then we can all start to look forward with some optimism again. t’s gonna be brilliant.

Not uncommon for a manager to be announced and not take the next game though, especially if the game is that night.

I do hope we wait a wee bit though to see who else is interested. Not too long, but there's an international break after the Aberdeen game.

[Smartie]

Lennon also blamed him and Paul for the hearts defeat. Wrong studs night!

Hanlon and Stevenson played their best football under Lennon. "That midfield" seem to get all the credit but I remember how good Stevenson was in that team (often with a shout for motm) and Hanlon's qualities were a major part of why that team was so balanced and so good.

I think there's every chance that if Lennon came back he would play Hanlon and Stevenson every week and the defence would be organised in a way that we'd remember exactly why they should both still be first picks rather than scapegoats.

[Iain G]

Think you’re going to be wrong again.

Club are keen to speak to him and he’s keen to come to us.

Can’t see anything stopping it happening.

Common sense may kick in at somepoint to stop it happening. I can only hope, rather we kept LJ in pace to be honest if Lemmy is the replacement

[blackpoolhibs]

I'm that fed up with Hibs that i dont really give a toss who we appoint next, it's only a matter of time before he wont be wanted anymore.

[Brightside]

My guess is they will wait until Friday.

Doesn’t make sense for the new manger to take charge against Villa.

Get that out the way then we can all start to look forward with some optimism again. t’s gonna be brilliant.

What makes you think the club are keen to speak to him btw?

[MWHIBBIES]

My guess is they will wait until Friday.

Doesn’t make sense for the new manger to take charge against Villa.

Get that out the way then we can all start to look forward with some optimism again. t’s gonna be brilliant.

Surely such a winner would relish a shot at Aston Villa?

[LaMotta]

Worth also remembering for all the rhetoric of him being a “natural born winner”, he had his arms out and giving it large facing the opposition stands not because we won, not because we’d had a valiant fight back for an unlikely draw, but they’d just had a goal disallowed and it meant we didn’t lose.

As utterly cringeworthy small time behaviour as I’ve ever seen.


Winning is fun.


Lennon has been the only manager since McLeish to give us more than one 2 goal victory over Hearts.

Whilst theres a part of me that would be wary of him coming back, theres also a part of me that gets a bit excited.:greengrin

[LaMotta]

Common sense may kick in at somepoint to stop it happening. I can only hope, rather we kept LJ in pace to be honest if Lemmy is the replacement


Lee Johnson - 24 losses in 52 games as Hibs manager

Neil Lennon - 24 losses in 123 games as Hibs manager

(yes obviously a season in Championship, but LJ had us struggling in League Cup against lower league teams)

[bingo70]

I’m astonished your on board with it tbh.

I want excitement and he provides it.

In terms of a personality though, I want a manager I can relate to. I’ve found the last 3 managers so different to what I think a manager should be like. I want my manager to be passionate, enthusiastic and I want them to be engaging so when they’re talking, I want to listen.

There’s more to it than that but I think passion and enthusiasm is infectious both in the support but also to the players. I’m not surprised the last 3 struggled to get a regular tune out of the players. IMO they were boring and difficult to stay engaged with.

I’m not blind to Lennons flaws but short term I’d be excited about having a manager I can relate to.

I’d still rather we went for Montgomery or Arnold but I can see the attraction with Lennon.

[Iain G]

All the snowflakes out today i see. Lennon is horrible, a wrongun, bla bla bla.

One of the most enjoyable times watching Hibs last time around. It’ll certainly be more entertaining that LJ’s or Maloneys Hibs.

He’ll get more investment from the club than he did get last time round.

Id prefer McInnes but think Kilmarnock will want too much compo.

Get Lennon back.

Sorry Grandad for not being happy that a failed Hibs manager is being touted for a return!

And don't be a square, get with the yoof of today 😁

[WhileTheChief..]

Not uncommon for a manager to be announced and not take the next game though, especially if the game is that night.

I do hope we wait a wee bit though to see who else is interested. Not too long, but there's an international break after the Aberdeen game.

I’d be happy with SDG taking the Aberdeen game too.

It would be cool if they announced NL today or tomorrow with him in the stand at Villa though. Nice wee boost for the players.

[WhileTheChief..]

Surely such a winner would relish a shot at Aston Villa?

I’ve never said he is a born winner or anything like it. Maybe getting me confused with one of the other numerous posters on here who would like to see him back?

I don’t think any manager would relish coming in to a 2nd leg trailing 5-0.

Are you just trying to wind me up or have a laugh? Fair play if so, keep trying!

[jeffers]

I get the appeal of appointing Lennon, when it was good it was very good and that’s obviously what everyone who wants him back is hoping for. But the bad was very bad, bizarre team selections, going AWOL, toys out the pram etc. What’s to say that won’t be the Lennon we get back ? Too much of a gamble, so it’s a big no for me.

[NC1875]

Snowflakes. 😂. You’ll be calling me woke next.

Ya woke snowflake 😂

[WhileTheChief..]

What makes you think the club are keen to speak to him btw?

The bbc article.

[Corstorphine Hibby]

I'm that fed up with Hibs that i dont really give a toss who we appoint next, it's only a matter of time before he wont be wanted anymore.

Like nearly every other football manager at nearly every other football club then ?

[blackpoolhibs]

Like nearly every other football manager at nearly every other football club then ?

Aye probably right.

[Since452]

I'd find it astonishing if we allowed a guy who left with 2 wins in 14 games to return.

[Mainstandman]

What’s the hibs stats for prem only.

Win 25
Draw 19
Loss 15

His win rate in 18-19 was pretty much bang on Johnson's

[sphibee]

I'd find it astonishing if we allowed a guy who left with 2 wins in 14 games to return.

This exactly…. Also ppl seem to forget we still finished 4th under him against really poor Rangers and Hearts squads that year. I’m sure Aberdeen were 2nd were they not?

[flash]

Common sense may kick in at somepoint to stop it happening. I can only hope, rather we kept LJ in pace to be honest if Lemmy is the replacement

That's overkill.

[Onion]

I was delighted with Lennon when he was appointed first time around.

But now? Not for me.

We know the script. Short term he'd probably give us a wee boost. But as soon as he didn't get his way with a signing, or had an issue with a player, it goes nuclear and he self destructs very quickly.

I'm unsure what about the man has changed since we last sacked him.

If he gets the gig I'll of course back him but if we are genuinely interested I hope we ask him some frank questions about his behavior, how he'll deal with things when they don't go his way.

We're very much in the definition of insanity territory here.

Agreed. Feels like a short-term fix that's likely blow up at any moment. Shocked Hibs might even be speaking to Lennon.

[nonshinyfinish]

The bbc article.

Do you mean this? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66653921

That's a summary of transfer rumours etc – in the case of NFL, it's just them reporting what the Sun said.

Or is there another BBC article?

[Gatecrasher]

Oh god, I hope its not Lennon :coffee:

[He's here!]

I was delighted with Lennon when he was appointed first time around.

But now? Not for me.

We know the script. Short term he'd probably give us a wee boost. But as soon as he didn't get his way with a signing, or had an issue with a player, it goes nuclear and he self destructs very quickly.

I'm unsure what about the man has changed since we last sacked him.

If he gets the gig I'll of course back him but if we are genuinely interested I hope we ask him some frank questions about his behavior, how he'll deal with things when they don't go his way.

We're very much in the definition of insanity territory here.

Me too. It felt like something of a coup to land him and it was a very exciting appointment which pretty much banished any lingering disappointment about Stubbs leaving. He proved to be the right man at the right time with solid progress out of the Championship and a cracking first season to re-establish us in the top flight.

However, as proved to be the case when he rejoined Celtic, when he started to lose key players he struggled to replace them with remotely adequate signings - and once results started to decline he seemed unable to arrest the slide.

I'll be very surprised if we opt to bring him back.

[Pytheas]

Oh god, I hope its not Lennon :coffee:



The only thing that will make me feel better if it is Lenny again is surely they will have sounded out Hanlon, Lewy, Daz, Gray etc about what he was like and whether they think it a good idea to bring him back.

Surely

Right?.......

[Paulie Walnuts]

I'd find it astonishing if we allowed a guy who left with 2 wins in 14 games to return.

Yet you are adamant we shouldn’t have sacked Jack Ross after 3 wins in 14? :confused:

I wouldn’t have him back either. Some of the arguments getting thrown about are pretty inconsistent or nonsensical though.

[Hibs90]

All the snowflakes out today i see. Lennon is horrible, a wrongun, bla bla bla.

One of the most enjoyable times watching Hibs last time around. It’ll certainly be more entertaining that LJ’s or Maloneys Hibs.

He’ll get more investment from the club than he did get last time round.

Id prefer McInnes but think Kilmarnock will want too much compo.

Get Lennon back.

There was nothing enjoyable about that run of 2 wins in 14 games or the ****show around his departure.

It was great for 6 months but he had a great midfield and a squad that was largely built by Stubbs.

[Oscar T Grouch]

The thing about Lennon is, well there's loads of things about him. When he was here and we were playing well, beating the puddle drinkers fi gorgie, giving the bigot brothers bloody noses, the 5-5 game and the aeroplane, I don't think I have ever been as entertained as I was then by Hibs. The problem with Lennon as he showed us previously is when it starts to go wrong, he doesn't seem to want to or maybe doesn't have the ability to put the brakes on a look at things in a analytical manor and solve problems that way, he lets his emotional mind take over and his reasonable mind is left out in the cold. The problem with Hibs is that there will always be times during the season that that is required of the manager. At the end of his tenure I was more than happy to find out he was leaving and that is where I am stuck at the moment, I would love another ride on the rollercoaster but the after effects will likely leave me queasy. I actually have no preference or strong feeling towards any manager at the moment. I will trust the club to interview a number of potential suitors and pick the best of those. If that turns out to be Lennon then so be it, I will strap in and enjoy the ride again for as long as I possibly can. I would like for the first time in a long time a manager to leave us for a better job rather than because they can't buy a win against Livvy on a cold November night but that would be me getting away ahead of myself!

[Broxburn Greens]

Surely such a winner would relish a shot at Aston Villa?

In the stands for the Villa Game, SDG in charge.

Takes over for the game on Sunday.

If it happens.

I have reservations about this potential appointment as I think many do, but as others have said as well I like them loved the early part of his time in charge, was exciting and we seemed to be going places, the chase for 2nd was superb, we just fell short. Even needing to be Rangers by 6 clear goals it was exciting when we were 3-0 up and genuine thoughts of "we could do this".

It just all fell apart after that though.

If it happens, strap yourselves in guys & girls, it's going to be a bumpy ride!!! :greengrin

[Brightside]

The bbc article.

Which is just a link to the Sun article yeh? OK. I'm happy that its made up nonsense in the Sun.

[PatHead]

There is no-one left in the boardroom or a senior position who was here at the time Lennon was here to discuss what went on at the end.
They may contact some of them as part of their due diligence but they quickly got rid of everyone in that regime so I am not sure that they will.
I remember when he was appointed last time someone told me that he wasn't on their radar but as soon as it was made known he was interested he was the only name in the frame and things moved very quickly.
I still have a feeling that Malky Mackay will be appointed from a couple of things that I have heard but I am not in the know.

[Hibs90]

The bbc article.


Which is just a link to the Sun article yeh? OK. I'm happy that its made up nonsense in the Sun.

Exactly.

[Hibs90]

There is no-one left in the boardroom or a senior position who was here at the time Lennon was here to discuss what went on at the end.
They may contact some of them as part of their due diligence but they quickly got rid of everyone in that regime so I am not sure that they will.
I remember when he was appointed last time someone told me that he wasn't on their radar but as soon as it was made known he was interested he was the only name in the frame and things moved very quickly.
I still have a feeling that Malky Mackay will be appointed from a couple of things that I have heard but I am not in the know.

Mackay is another crap manager.

No thanks. I'd rather have Lennon in that case.

[davhibby]

I want excitement and he provides it.

In terms of a personality though, I want a manager I can relate to. I’ve found the last 3 managers so different to what I think a manager should be like. I want my manager to be passionate, enthusiastic and I want them to be engaging so when they’re talking, I want to listen.

There’s more to it than that but I think passion and enthusiasm is infectious both in the support but also to the players. I’m not surprised the last 3 struggled to get a regular tune out of the players. IMO they were boring and difficult to stay engaged with.

I’m not blind to Lennons flaws but short term I’d be excited about having a manager I can relate to.

I’d still rather we went for Montgomery or Arnold but I can see the attraction with Lennon.

Does he really provide excitement though? Other than the half season where he had probably the best Hibs midfield this century the majority of his time in charge was boring/awful.

We draw our way to the championship title and a large number of the games were mind numbingly boring and then the last 4 months of his time included some of the worst performances I can remember.

He’d be decent for games against the old firm and (home)games against hearts and it would be pot luck at best for the rest of the games.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Mackay is another crap manager.

No thanks. I'd rather have Lennon in that case.

Agree.

[A Hi-Bee]

It has to be Neil Lennon, good manager and he is also very human, has his faults just like the rest o us, unless we have some perfect ones on here. :nlgwa time will tell, while all the experts tell us otherwise, already being a Hibs supporter has got better and he has no even been appointed yet.

[PatHead]

Agree.

So do I buy I have a fear that may happen.

[wookie70]

I think his mates in the media are trying to get him the gig. I'd be surprised if he lasted to the end of the season if he is appointed and I hope if he is there is a delay so he can't waste any money before the window closes. Massive error imo and given what is supposedly happened with Dempster not only do we have a manager potentially returning that got sacked but one who comes with Malky McKay type baggage. A guaranteed way to split a support that is already way too distant from the club.I simply can't see it happening and if it does those making the decisions will have to be held to account if, but more likely when, it all goes wrong

[Corstorphine Hibby]

The only thing that will make me feel better if it is Lenny again is surely they will have sounded out Hanlon, Lewy, Daz, Gray etc about what he was like and whether they think it a good idea to bring him back.

Surely

Right?.......

I think you're right and it's a good point that you raise.

[NC1875]

I think his mates in the media are trying to get him the gig. I'd be surprised if he lasted to the end of the season if he is appointed and I hope if he is there is a delay so he can't waste any money before the window closes. Massive error imo and given what is supposedly happened with Dempster not only do we have a manager potentially returning that got sacked but one who comes with Malky McKay type baggage. A guaranteed way to split a support that is already way too distant from the club.I simply can't see it happening and if it does those making the decisions will have to be held to account if, but more likely when, it all goes wrong

Malky Mackay type baggage ? A bit of a stretch of your imagination there I think!

Lennon isn’t perfect but I’d take him before the likes of Mackay or Robinson or some other no mark from the lower English leagues who think it’ll be easy managing in Scotland.

[Libby Hibby]

The over reaction to a tried an tested SPFL manager on here is incredible.

The personal stuff is awful and folk wanting LJ instead of Lennon are either not Hibby’s or trolls or perhaps both.

[Crunchie]

I think his mates in the media are trying to get him the gig. I'd be surprised if he lasted to the end of the season if he is appointed and I hope if he is there is a delay so he can't waste any money before the window closes. Massive error imo and given what is supposedly happened with Dempster not only do we have a manager potentially returning that got sacked but one who comes with Malky McKay type baggage. A guaranteed way to split a support that is already way too distant from the club.I simply can't see it happening and if it does those making the decisions will have to be held to account if, but more likely when, it all goes wrong
It'll be a disaster of monumental proportions if he's appointed, I pray it's just another garbage tabloid story designed to sell papers.

[Crunchie]

The over reaction to a tried an tested SPFL manager on here is incredible.

The personal stuff is awful and folk wanting LJ instead of Lennon are either not Hibby’s or trolls or perhaps both.
Delve deeper into his spfl credentials and it's more like tried and flopped, and that includes his time in Glasgow.

[Donegal Hibby]

All the snowflakes out today i see. Lennon is horrible, a wrongun, bla bla bla.

One of the most enjoyable times watching Hibs last time around. It’ll certainly be more entertaining that LJ’s or Maloneys Hibs.

He’ll get more investment from the club than he did get last time round.

Id prefer McInnes but think Kilmarnock will want too much compo.

Get Lennon back.

Lennon took over a good Hibs team and it ended up a lot poorer at the end of his reign which certainly wasn't exciting to watch at the end . His part in the bust up was awful and it was embarrassing tbh . The guys a walking timebomb! If you stick your hand in the fire and get burnt why do it again?

[Iain G]

The over reaction to a tried an tested SPFL manager on here is incredible.

The personal stuff is awful and folk wanting LJ instead of Lennon are either not Hibby’s or trolls or perhaps both.

Am a non Hibby Troll then! 🤣

If we were bringing any failed Hibs manager back would rather John Collins than Lennon.

[wookie70]

Malky Mackay type baggage ? A bit of a stretch of your imagination there I think!

Lennon isn’t perfect but I’d take him before the likes of Mackay or Robinson or some other no mark from the lower English leagues who think it’ll be easy managing in Scotland.

If he did what is talked about and started slinging homophobic language at Dempster then it is very similar to the racist cr*p that Mackay was guilty of. How is that a stretch. Lennon was a bit of a no mark in the English lower leagues too and his record up here, when looked at closely, has at least as many failures as successes and usually ends in disaster, often when he was handed a great squad and position.

[CapitalGreen]

There is no-one left in the boardroom or a senior position who was here at the time Lennon was here to discuss what went on at the end.
They may contact some of them as part of their due diligence but they quickly got rid of everyone in that regime so I am not sure that they will.
I remember when he was appointed last time someone told me that he wasn't on their radar but as soon as it was made known he was interested he was the only name in the frame and things moved very quickly.
I still have a feeling that Malky Mackay will be appointed from a couple of things that I have heard but I am not in the know.

Bruce Langham was and still is part of the board. I imagine Malcolm McPherson and Stephen Dunn will have been made aware of what went on at the time also.

Re Malky MacKay - I have also heard he is under consideration however that came from a journo rather than someone at the club.

[MelbourneHibees]

The over reaction to a tried an tested SPFL manager on here is incredible.

The personal stuff is awful and folk wanting LJ instead of Lennon are either not Hibby’s or trolls or perhaps both.

Craig Levein is a tried and tested SPFL manager. Would you take him?

[Iain G]

Craig Levein is a tried and tested SPFL manager. Would you take him?

Tired and testing would be closer to the mark.

[Libby Hibby]

Craig Levein is a tried and tested SPFL manager. Would you take him?

Nope, I want zero Hertz connections with the next manager.

[WhileTheChief..]

It has to be Neil Lennon, good manager and he is also very human, has his faults just like the rest o us, unless we have some perfect ones on here. :nlgwa time will tell, while all the experts tell us otherwise, already being a Hibs supporter has got better and he has no even been appointed yet.

Totally agree.

Even this forum is more exciting that during LJs time.

Feels good to be feeling positive about our club again. The life has been sucked out of it the last few years.

[blackpoolhibs]

Why does Stubbs's never say he'd be interested to speak to the club when the job becomes available?

Not that I'm saying I want him, but he is the man who brought the cup to the club.

Every other ex manager seems to get quoted except him?

[B.H.F.C]

This exactly…. Also ppl seem to forget we still finished 4th under him against really poor Rangers and Hearts squads that year. I’m sure Aberdeen were 2nd were they not?

We also got 67 points in his only full season in the Premiership. Will be a long time before that is bettered.

[ElginHibbie]

We also got 67 points in his only full season in the Premiership. Will be a long time before that is bettered.

Aye, he failed miserably trying to better it himself the next season after all

[MelbourneHibees]

Tired and testing would be closer to the mark.

🤣🤣

[Hiber-nation]

Why does Stubbs's never say he'd be interested to speak to the club when the job becomes available?

Not that I'm saying I want him, but he is the man who brought the cup to the club.

Every other ex manager seems to get quoted except him?

Aye it's strange. Look at his signings compared to his successors..

[He's here!]

Why does Stubbs's never say he'd be interested to speak to the club when the job becomes available?

Not that I'm saying I want him, but he is the man who brought the cup to the club.

Every other ex manager seems to get quoted except him?

I often wonder this too. What is Stubbs actually doing these days?

I know things didn't work out at Rotherham or St Mirren but, like Jack Ross at Tannadice, that shouldn't consign a young boss to the managerial dustbin. Sometimes certain clubs are a fit for certain managers and I'd be happy to see his name among those under consideration. I'd personally prefer to see him return than Lennon.

[cameronw-hfc]

Why does Stubbs's never say he'd be interested to speak to the club when the job becomes available?

Not that I'm saying I want him, but he is the man who brought the cup to the club.

Every other ex manager seems to get quoted except him?


He's just not a great manager imo. Will always love him for the Scottish cup, but he's failed pretty drastically in his other 2 jobs and besides the cup win, didn't do all that great at Hibs. He had a Premier league standard team in the championship, lost a cup final to County that even though we were in the champ, we were by far the better team. Lost twice in a row in the playoffs.

I'll always count him as my favourite Hibs manager in my lifetime due to the cup win, and being very likeable but he unfortunately isn't that great a manager. Probably a brilliant coach though.

[ScottB]

First time round it felt like a bit of a coup to get Lennon, but ultimately he was damaged goods then after having failed in England. He gave off the air of someone who felt he was better than being here and when things started to unravel, he stomped off in the huff. Forget whether he did or didn’t throw a chair at Kamberi, going awol, refusing interviews etc after the meltdown at Tynecastle was utter nonsense.

Now? After being sacked in Cyprus, who else wants him? Of course he wants to come back, the media has linked him with various Scottish jobs, including ones we’d see as smaller than us.

He’s not a bad manager, but ultimately his success at Celtic was built on inheriting a good team that were on the up, he did the same with us, getting Stubbs’ cup winners. Once he needed to build up a new squad, it fell apart and by the time he left it was a right mess.

Has he ever, in his career, gone and made an underperforming squad better? He’s not going to get ‘backed’ here because apart from anything else, the window will be shut. Will he develop, improve and play our young guys?

He was the right guy to replace Stubbs, a mad gambit that briefly paid off before it didn’t. He is not the right guy to replace Johnson.

[B.H.F.C]

First time round it felt like a bit of a coup to get Lennon, but ultimately he was damaged goods then after having failed in England. He gave off the air of someone who felt he was better than being here and when things started to unravel, he stomped off in the huff. Forget whether he did or didn’t throw a chair at Kamberi, going awol, refusing interviews etc after the meltdown at Tynecastle was utter nonsense.

Now? After being sacked in Cyprus, who else wants him? Of course he wants to come back, the media has linked him with various Scottish jobs, including ones we’d see as smaller than us.

He’s not a bad manager, but ultimately his success at Celtic was built on inheriting a good team that were on the up, he did the same with us, getting Stubbs’ cup winners. Once he needed to build up a new squad, it fell apart and by the time we left it was a right mess.

Has he ever, in his career, gone and made an underperforming squad better? He’s not going to get ‘backed’ here because apart from anything else, the window will be shut. Will he develop, improve and play our young guys?

He was the right guy to replace Stubbs, a mad gambit that briefly paid off before it didn’t. He is not the right guy to replace Johnson.

There’s definite negatives to him coming back but I don’t think his time in Cyprus is. He won a cup and got them to the group stages of Europe. Nobody lasts long in Cyprus, they go through managers quicker than we do.

[1van Sprou7e]

Why does Stubbs's never say he'd be interested to speak to the club when the job becomes available?

Not that I'm saying I want him, but he is the man who brought the cup to the club.

Every other ex manager seems to get quoted except him?

Because he left in personal disgrace after pumping the physio? Pretty hard to go back to a workplace after that

[worcesterhibby]

Not Lennon..no please god..no

[Donegal Hibby]

Very disappointing if it's Neil Lennon we are after , obviously we have learnt nothing after his first stint at us that ended with Hibs playing poorly and all the turmoil he caused . Certainly not a manager who's going to unite the support !

[WhileTheChief..]

Common sense may kick in at somepoint to stop it happening. I can only hope, rather we kept LJ in pace to be honest if Lemmy is the replacement

You’d choose LJ over NL if it was a straight up choice?

With everything you know about them both??

Yeah we definitely see things completely differently!!!

[Forza Fred]

The thing about Lennon is, well there's loads of things about him. When he was here and we were playing well, beating the puddle drinkers fi gorgie, giving the bigot brothers bloody noses, the 5-5 game and the aeroplane, I don't think I have ever been as entertained as I was then by Hibs. The problem with Lennon as he showed us previously is when it starts to go wrong, he doesn't seem to want to or maybe doesn't have the ability to put the brakes on a look at things in a analytical manor and solve problems that way, he lets his emotional mind take over and his reasonable mind is left out in the cold. The problem with Hibs is that there will always be times during the season that that is required of the manager. At the end of his tenure I was more than happy to find out he was leaving and that is where I am stuck at the moment, I would love another ride on the rollercoaster but the after effects will likely leave me queasy. I actually have no preference or strong feeling towards any manager at the moment. I will trust the club to interview a number of potential suitors and pick the best of those. If that turns out to be Lennon then so be it, I will strap in and enjoy the ride again for as long as I possibly can. I would like for the first time in a long time a manager to leave us for a better job rather than because they can't buy a win against Livvy on a cold November night but that would be me getting away ahead of myself!
:top marks

[Waxy]

Not Lennon..no please god..no

Why not?

[truehibernian]

Very disappointing if it's Neil Lennon we are after , obviously we have learnt nothing after his first stint at us that ended with Hibs playing poorly and all the turmoil he caused . Certainly not a manager who's going to unite the support !

I think the opposite, I think Neil will have reflected on his departure and learned lessons from it (as we all do). He brings drama, he brings impact, and more importantly he brings presence in the dressing room and HTC. He commands and has earned respect due to his football achievements domestically and internationally. His contact list will be broad, and he doesn’t suffer fools. He certainly won’t accept meek derby performances and he’ll unite the club when those fixtures come round. He admitted himself, the club got under his skin and he grew affectionate towards Hibs and the support. For me he starts on a better footing than the other candidates and his experience will be vital with this ‘fragile’ squad.

I think he’ll be a very very good fit right now.

[Iain G]

You’d choose LJ over NL if it was a straight up choice?

With everything you know about them both??

Yeah we definitely see things completely differently!!!

They have both had their time, we should move forward and find the right new manager for us. For me Lennon is a big step backwards.

We need a new beginning and someone new to bring everything together

[timewilltell]

Everyone keeps saying regarding Lennon, "what happens when it goes wrong"?

Its "gone wrong" with dvery manager we've ever had!

He'll bring energy, drive, enthusiasm and commitment... All of what we are currently lacking.

[Vault Boy]

Why does Stubbs's never say he'd be interested to speak to the club when the job becomes available?

Not that I'm saying I want him, but he is the man who brought the cup to the club.

Every other ex manager seems to get quoted except him?

I seem to remember him being asked about it previously, maybe after the Hecky sacking, and him saying words to the effect of ‘the club know I’m just a phone call away.’ He mustn't have the media leverage that Lennon has, I suppose.

I’d be happier about Stubbs returning than Lennon.

[Keith_M]

Tbf it was Falkirk not us who were their closest competitors for the Championship title that season.


There was almost no difference between Falkirk and Hibs that season, other than them scoring two more goals than us.





GF
GA
GD
Pts


2
Falkirk
61
34
+27
70


3
Hibs
59
34
+25
70









It was interesting that The Sun called Warburton a 'thorn in Hibs side', despite the fact that Hibs beat them twice in the league and in the SC Final.

[truehibernian]

I seem to remember him being asked about it previously, maybe after the Hecky sacking, and him saying words to the effect of ‘the club know I’m just a phone call away.’ He mustn't have the media leverage that Lennon has, I suppose.

I’d be happier about Stubbs returning than Lennon.

Stubbs hasn’t managed since an I’ll fated few months at St Mirren.

Lennon had won a league and cups in two countries since, and managed in European competition.

I love Stubbs but Neil’s the man 👍

[I'm_cabbaged]

I seem to remember him being asked about it previously, maybe after the Hecky sacking, and him saying words to the effect of ‘the club know I’m just a phone call away.’ He mustn't have the media leverage that Lennon has, I suppose.

I’d be happier about Stubbs returning than Lennon.

Who couldn’t get us out of the championship…..

[500miles]

Because he left in personal disgrace after pumping the physio? Pretty hard to go back to a workplace after that
The magic sponge indeed.

[Callum_62]

Who couldn’t get us out of the championship…..Meow! [emoji79]

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[BegbieHSC]

I actually think Lennon is what we need just now tbh. We need that bit of drive; we need that bit of anger and determination.

To those saying “but look how it ended,” Every manager since Lennon has gone wrong in the end. The only manager to leave the club in a better state that they found it over the past 20 years was Stubbsy.

For a club like ours, the chances of a manager getting sacked for underachieving then poached for overachieving is very high.

If Lenny comes back, it won’t be plain sailing. But our highs with him are among the best I’ve ever felt as a Hibs fan. Going into every derby with a swagger expecting to win; rocking up to Ibrox just knowing that there was a huge chance of getting the 3 points. Easter Road was sold out most weeks, away days were spectacular. Sure there was the 2016 bounce, but to say that Lenny had nothing to do with it is delusional.

We need a bit of passion and anger back. Let’s give him a go again.

[Since452]

Yet you are adamant we shouldn’t have sacked Jack Ross after 3 wins in 14? :confused:

I wouldn’t have him back either. Some of the arguments getting thrown about are pretty inconsistent or nonsensical though.

Ross had just got us to a cup final (another one).

[#2 Double Tap]

I actually think Lennon is what we need just now tbh. We need that bit of drive; we need that bit of anger and determination.

To those saying “but look how it ended,” Every manager since Lennon has gone wrong in the end. The only manager to leave the club in a better state that they found it over the past 20 years was Stubbsy.

For a club like ours, the chances of a manager getting sacked for underachieving then poached for overachieving is very high.

If Lenny comes back, it won’t be plain sailing. But our highs with him are among the best I’ve ever felt as a Hibs fan. Going into every derby with a swagger expecting to win; rocking up to Ibrox just knowing that there was a huge chance of getting the 3 points. Easter Road was sold out most weeks, away days were spectacular. Sure there was the 2016 bounce, but to say that Lenny had nothing to do with it is delusional.

We need a bit of passion and anger back. Let’s give him a go again.

spot on!

[Vault Boy]

Who couldn’t get us out of the championship…..

That’s certainly my prevailing memory of Stubbs’ time at Hibs, nothing else comes to mind

[#2 Double Tap]

Ross had just got us to a cup final (another one).

ross was boring. fans started losing interest. `no one wanted to watch a jr team.

[Since452]

The thing about Lennon is, well there's loads of things about him. When he was here and we were playing well, beating the puddle drinkers fi gorgie, giving the bigot brothers bloody noses, the 5-5 game and the aeroplane, I don't think I have ever been as entertained as I was then by Hibs. The problem with Lennon as he showed us previously is when it starts to go wrong, he doesn't seem to want to or maybe doesn't have the ability to put the brakes on a look at things in a analytical manor and solve problems that way, he lets his emotional mind take over and his reasonable mind is left out in the cold. The problem with Hibs is that there will always be times during the season that that is required of the manager. At the end of his tenure I was more than happy to find out he was leaving and that is where I am stuck at the moment, I would love another ride on the rollercoaster but the after effects will likely leave me queasy. I actually have no preference or strong feeling towards any manager at the moment. I will trust the club to interview a number of potential suitors and pick the best of those. If that turns out to be Lennon then so be it, I will strap in and enjoy the ride again for as long as I possibly can. I would like for the first time in a long time a manager to leave us for a better job rather than because they can't buy a win against Livvy on a cold November night but that would be me getting away ahead of myself!

Is the 5-5 game really something to pat him on the back for? We threw away a 3 goal lead in that game then he ran on the park like a primary school child to celebrate a draw. It's like when he celebrated Hearts having a goal disallowed. Failed to win both games. Cringeworthy stuff.

[#2 Double Tap]

lenny with stubbs as no.2, that'll do.

[Keith_M]

That’s certainly my prevailing memory of Stubbs’ time at Hibs, nothing else comes to mind


He led us to a 6-2 defeat in the Challenge Cup against Rangers, but I'm stumped if I remember anything else very notable.

[#2 Double Tap]

Is the 5-5 game really something to pat him on the back for? We threw away a 3 goal lead in that game then he ran on the park like a primary school child to celebrate a draw. It's like when he celebrated Hearts having a goal disallowed. Cringeworthy stuff.

away. that was an amazing game, proper all out attack, everyone watching that game was mesmorized. celebrating everything and anything that goes against the yams is always the correct action to take :greengrin

[Callum_62]

Is the 5-5 game really something to pat him on the back for? We threw away a 3 goal lead in that game then he ran on the park like a primary school child to celebrate a draw. It's like when he celebrated Hearts having a goal disallowed. Failed to win both games. Cringeworthy stuff.I was there and we had a moment of - we could actually get the 6 goal win we need

In the end we pushed too hard and rangers caught us

It was an absolutely brilliant game of football though and only the meanest of fans wouldn't have enjoyed it

We were 3 up but needed to win by 6, hardly normal circumstances for throwing away a 3 goal lead

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[PatHead]

Bruce Langham was and still is part of the board. I imagine Malcolm McPherson and Stephen Dunn will have been made aware of what went on at the time also.

Re Malky MacKay - I have also heard he is under consideration however that came from a journo rather than someone at the club.

Bruce has left. Just hasn't been announced. He is away back south for a well earned retirement.

[truehibernian]

Is the 5-5 game really something to pat him on the back for? We threw away a 3 goal lead in that game then he ran on the park like a primary school child to celebrate a draw. It's like when he celebrated Hearts having a goal disallowed. Failed to win both games. Cringeworthy stuff.

Cringeworthy 😂

Did we not outplay Hearts and play with 10 men for a large part in the derby you mention ? He was getting vile abuse all 90 and had coins thrown at him, good on him for winding up the Yams !! And it worked 👍

[Since452]

Cringeworthy ��

Did we not outplay Hearts and play with 10 men for a large part in the derby you mention ? He was getting vile abuse all 90 and had coins thrown at him, good on him for winding up the Yams !! And it worked ��

Was that the game when he went down holding his face when the coin hit him om the arm? Utter embarrassment of a man. The Neil Lennon show.

[He's here!]

He's just not a great manager imo. Will always love him for the Scottish cup, but he's failed pretty drastically in his other 2 jobs and besides the cup win, didn't do all that great at Hibs. He had a Premier league standard team in the championship, lost a cup final to County that even though we were in the champ, we were by far the better team. Lost twice in a row in the playoffs.

I'll always count him as my favourite Hibs manager in my lifetime due to the cup win, and being very likeable but he unfortunately isn't that great a manager. Probably a brilliant coach though.


'Besides the cup win'...you make it sound like a throwaway achievement rather than something no other manager had managed to achieve in 114 years.

The 'Premier League standard team' was one he built, but which happened to be up against far bigger spending Hearts and Rangers in its first season and Rangers in its second. He even finished above Rangers in that first season. The County cup final, as you point out, we were the better team and were genuinely just a bit unfortunate. As for the play-offs, when you're a Championship club in the running for a treble it wasn't a huge shock that something had to give.

All in all, he was a superb manager for Hibs.

[truehibernian]

Was that the game when he went down holding his face when the coin hit him om the arm? Utter embarrassment of a man. The Neil Lennon show.

The utter embarrassment was the clown that threw it, and the clowns that shouted vile sectarian abuse all 90 at him. No different to Zlamal too then (and the Hibs fan was an utter clown there too).

[Unseen work]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/neil-lennon-watch-space-hibs-30820902

[#2 Double Tap]

Was that the game when he went down holding his face when the coin hit him om the arm? Utter embarrassment of a man. The Neil Lennon show.

that was genius from him, remember our fan had just slapped the goalie, we were gonna be on the wrong end of the after match press until lenny used the quick thinking and hit the deck

[Heisenberg]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/neil-lennon-watch-space-hibs-30820902

“Nick Montgomery, however, remains firmly in the mix”

Thank ****.

[truehibernian]

that was genius from him, remember our fan had just slapped the goalie, we were gonna be on the wrong end of the after match press until lenny used the quick thinking and hit the deck

He had coins thrown at him walking off the pitch after the 2-1 defeat too after he made the points gesture (and a minging yam scarf 😀). Media never reported it.

The downside that game was his half time behaviour. That said, I think he’ll come back a much better manager for all the dramas. Strap yourselves in 😊

[Crab apple]

He had coins thrown at him walking off the pitch after the 2-1 defeat to aftee he made the points gesture. Media never reported it.

Correct. A number of coins were thrown at him from the cardigan wearers in the more expensive seats. One of our backroom staff got hit too.

[MelbourneHibees]

He had coins thrown at him walking off the pitch after the 2-1 defeat to aftee he made the points gesture. Media never reported it.

There's not a Derby go by where I don't see various missiles thrown from both sets of fans when players are taking corners/throw ins. Disgusting people.

[truehibernian]

There's not a Derby go by where I don't see various missiles thrown from both sets of fans when players are taking corners/throw ins. Disgusting people.

Totally agree 👍

[worcesterhibby]

Why not?

Why not Lennon ?

Because he has no respect for our club.
Because he is a difficult and troubled man and we need a strong, professional, cool head in charge.
Because when things started to go wrong and the team that he inherited began to break up, he had no idea how to get things back on track. Because he is Celtic through and through and will be constantly on TV and radio talking about them and being positive about them even if he is our manager.
Because the weegie media want him to get the job.
Because I want someone fresh, exciting and succesful and I don't beleive Lennon is any of those things.
Because he brings with him the issues of sectarianism and associates us with all the Old Firm bile that comes with it.
Because I want a new beggining, new hope, new dreams..not a repeat of past failures.

That enough for you ?

[Greenio]

Why not Lennon ?

Because he has no respect for our club.
Because he is a difficult and troubled man and we need a strong, professional, cool head in charge.
Because when things started to go wrong and the team that he inherited began to break up, he had no idea how to get things back on track. Because he is Celtic through and through and will be constantly on TV and radio talking about them and being positive about them even if he is our manager.
Because the weegie media want him to get the job.
Because I want someone fresh, exciting and succesful and I don't beleive Lennon is any of those things.
Because he brings with him the issues of sectarianism and associates us with all the Old Firm bile that comes with it.
Because I want a new beggining, new hope, new dreams..not a repeat of past failures.

That enough for you ?

That'll do me

Backwards move for so many reasons

[hibeerealist]

The thing about Lennon is, well there's loads of things about him. When he was here and we were playing well, beating the puddle drinkers fi gorgie, giving the bigot brothers bloody noses, the 5-5 game and the aeroplane, I don't think I have ever been as entertained as I was then by Hibs. The problem with Lennon as he showed us previously is when it starts to go wrong, he doesn't seem to want to or maybe doesn't have the ability to put the brakes on a look at things in a analytical manor and solve problems that way, he lets his emotional mind take over and his reasonable mind is left out in the cold. The problem with Hibs is that there will always be times during the season that that is required of the manager. At the end of his tenure I was more than happy to find out he was leaving and that is where I am stuck at the moment, I would love another ride on the rollercoaster but the after effects will likely leave me queasy. I actually have no preference or strong feeling towards any manager at the moment. I will trust the club to interview a number of potential suitors and pick the best of those. If that turns out to be Lennon then so be it, I will strap in and enjoy the ride again for as long as I possibly can. I would like for the first time in a long time a manager to leave us for a better job rather than because they can't buy a win against Livvy on a cold November night but that would be me getting away ahead of myself!

Is it possible that NL may have learned from his previous mistakes which would be part of making him a better manager/person?

[hibeerealist]

That'll do me

Backwards move for so many reasons

I think we would all welcome a young, foreign up and coming manager (new beginning) but circumstances really dictate we need an experienced hand at the wheel like yesterday. There are not too many available right now.

[Since452]

Why not Lennon ?

Because he has no respect for our club.
Because he is a difficult and troubled man and we need a strong, professional, cool head in charge.
Because when things started to go wrong and the team that he inherited began to break up, he had no idea how to get things back on track. Because he is Celtic through and through and will be constantly on TV and radio talking about them and being positive about them even if he is our manager.
Because the weegie media want him to get the job.
Because I want someone fresh, exciting and succesful and I don't beleive Lennon is any of those things.
Because he brings with him the issues of sectarianism and associates us with all the Old Firm bile that comes with it.
Because I want a new beggining, new hope, new dreams..not a repeat of past failures.

That enough for you ?

This for me is the stand out reason.

[Amazinsauzee]

Is it possible that NL may have learned from his previous mistakes which would be part of making him a better manager/person?

Lennon takes no responsibility for his mistakes and blames others

So to answer your question - not a chance

[Donegal Hibby]

I think the opposite, I think Neil will have reflected on his departure and learned lessons from it (as we all do). He brings drama, he brings impact, and more importantly he brings presence in the dressing room and HTC. He commands and has earned respect due to his football achievements domestically and internationally. His contact list will be broad, and he doesn’t suffer fools. He certainly won’t accept meek derby performances and he’ll unite the club when those fixtures come round. He admitted himself, the club got under his skin and he grew affectionate towards Hibs and the support. For me he starts on a better footing than the other candidates and his experience will be vital with this ‘fragile’ squad.

I think he’ll be a very very good fit right now.

Neil Lennon is Neil Lennon , the guys basically a walking timebomb that could go off at anytime which is certainly not what we are needing now .We as fans have all heard about the impact and presence he brought to our dressing room before and it was awful.

I found his Hibs press conferences really annoying were he'd be repeatly asked about Celtic which he really seemed to like to talk about too .

When he took over Hibs he had a good team which he certainly didn't improve and the nonsense with missing training , threating to quit , dressing room bust up we could well do without again.

It was very easy for him to sit in the programme with Rough and McManus saying what was wrong with us though when he was manager of us towards the end when we were going badly with some crazy team selections he really hadn't a clue how to fix anything which ended with him losing the plot ! .

I like many others on here don't want Lennon back because we remember how thing's went the last time and they weren't good .He's not a manager that's popular with a lot of our fans which certainly isn't going to unite the Hibs support imo .

[Greenio]

I think we would all welcome a young, foreign up and coming manager (new beginning) but circumstances really dictate we need an experienced hand at the wheel like yesterday. There are not too many available right now.

I don't necessarily want young, foreign or up and coming

I 100% don't want Lennon though. Been there, done that,

[S4uzee]

Would’ve expected a bit more chat on McInnes

[#2 Double Tap]

Neil Lennon is Neil Lennon , the guys basically a walking timebomb that could go off at anytime which is certainly not what we are needing now .We as fans have all heard about the impact and presence he brought to our dressing room before and it was awful.

I found his Hibs press conferences really annoying were he'd be repeatly asked about Celtic which he really seemed to like to talk about too .

When he took over Hibs he had a good team which he certainly didn't improve and the nonsense with missing training , threating to quit , dressing room bust up we could well do without again.

It was very easy for him to sit in the programme with Rough and McManus saying what was wrong with us though when he was manager of us towards the end when we were going badly with some crazy team selections he really hadn't a clue how to fix anything which ended with him losing the plot ! .

I like many others on here don't want Lennon back because we remember how thing's went the last time and they weren't good .He's not a manager that's popular with a lot of our fans which certainly isn't going to unite the Hibs support imo .

i remember him stating in one, that he was not there to talk about celtic.

he improved the midfield. and goalie. and the strikers ;P basically made the whole team better.

[hibeerealist]

Neil Lennon is Neil Lennon , the guys basically a walking timebomb that could go off at anytime which is certainly not what we are needing now .We as fans have all heard about the impact and presence he brought to our dressing room before and it was awful.

I found his Hibs press conferences really annoying were he'd be repeatly asked about Celtic which he really seemed to like to talk about too .

When he took over Hibs he had a good team which he certainly didn't improve and the nonsense with missing training , threating to quit , dressing room bust up we could well do without again.

It was very easy for him to sit in the programme with Rough and McManus saying what was wrong with us though when he was manager of us towards the end when we were going badly with some crazy team selections he really hadn't a clue how to fix anything which ended with him losing the plot ! .

I like many others on here don't want Lennon back because we remember how thing's went the last time and they weren't good .He's not a manager that's popular with a lot of our fans which certainly isn't going to unite the Hibs support imo .

At the risk of repeating myself, dealing with a weasel like Kamberi would put most of us over the edge.

[Unseen work]

Just having a look at Montgomery, he’s had some really good players at CCM for their level. A lot from the youth and ones he has signed by have went on to better clubs within a season or two.

Read an article where he credits his Portuguese assistant for some signings too as he has loads of contacts.

Would be interesting if it would be the same here with the youngsters and then able to identify gems.

[Donegal Hibby]

Why not Lennon ?

Because he has no respect for our club.
Because he is a difficult and troubled man and we need a strong, professional, cool head in charge.
Because when things started to go wrong and the team that he inherited began to break up, he had no idea how to get things back on track. Because he is Celtic through and through and will be constantly on TV and radio talking about them and being positive about them even if he is our manager.
Because the weegie media want him to get the job.
Because I want someone fresh, exciting and succesful and I don't beleive Lennon is any of those things.
Because he brings with him the issues of sectarianism and associates us with all the Old Firm bile that comes with it.
Because I want a new beggining, new hope, new dreams..not a repeat of past failures.

That enough for you ?

Summed up perfectly :aok:

[gbhibby]

My preference would be Scott Brown with Neil Lennon as assistant, it would change the mentality at the club and we would be appointing people who are winners the buzz around the stadium when Lennon was in charge was like going back to the Tornadoes time.

[Jones28]

Why not Lennon ?

Because he has no respect for our club.
Because he is a difficult and troubled man and we need a strong, professional, cool head in charge.
Because when things started to go wrong and the team that he inherited began to break up, he had no idea how to get things back on track. Because he is Celtic through and through and will be constantly on TV and radio talking about them and being positive about them even if he is our manager.
Because the weegie media want him to get the job.
Because I want someone fresh, exciting and succesful and I don't beleive Lennon is any of those things.
Because he brings with him the issues of sectarianism and associates us with all the Old Firm bile that comes with it.
Because I want a new beggining, new hope, new dreams..not a repeat of past failures.

That enough for you ?

Bizarrely this is not enough for some Hibs fans.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Just having a look at Montgomery, he’s had some really good players at CCM for their level. A lot from the youth and ones he has signed by have went on to better clubs within a season or two.

Read an article where he credits his Portuguese assistant for some signings too as he has loads of contacts.

Would be interesting if it would be the same here with the youngsters and then able to identify gems.

Montgomery is the man for me. Partly due to the reasons you've outlined above and Forza Fred outlined his credentials earlier in the thread

Really like the sound of him

[1van Sprou7e]

Would’ve expected a bit more chat on McInnes

Would he even be that interested? He's only just got up and running at Killie and has like 4 years on his contract

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Why not Lennon ?

Because he has no respect for our club.
Because he is a difficult and troubled man and we need a strong, professional, cool head in charge.
Because when things started to go wrong and the team that he inherited began to break up, he had no idea how to get things back on track. Because he is Celtic through and through and will be constantly on TV and radio talking about them and being positive about them even if he is our manager.
Because the weegie media want him to get the job.
Because I want someone fresh, exciting and succesful and I don't beleive Lennon is any of those things.
Because he brings with him the issues of sectarianism and associates us with all the Old Firm bile that comes with it.
Because I want a new beggining, new hope, new dreams..not a repeat of past failures.

That enough for you ?

Mic drop

Agree with every word WH. Great post

[Lancs Harp]

My preference would be Scott Brown with Neil Lennon as assistant, it would change the mentality at the club and we would be appointing people who are winners the buzz around the stadium when Lennon was in charge was like going back to the Tornadoes time.

Are you basing your support of Scott Brown on his managerial record at Fleetwood Town? That would represent a considerable gamble for me.
As someone else pointed out would he be under consideration just based on his Managerial record and not that he played for us a good while ago?

[Since452]

We, as a club, are bad for looking back the way. The fascination with ex players and managers is more than I've noticed from other clubs or their fans. I've been guilty of it myself at times. Why can't we go and get our next hero instead of reminiscing about a short period back in 2018?

[Donegal Hibby]

At the risk of repeating myself, dealing with a weasel like Kamberi would put most of us over the edge.

Imo though if it hadn't been Kamberi it would have been something else . I don't think Kamberi was blameless though did think it might have been more Lennon's fault when the rumour was senior Hibs players went to Dempster about it . He probably lost the plot and crossed the line like he did with Dempster tbh .

[flash]

Imo though if it hadn't been Kamberi it would have been something else . I don't think Kamberi was blameless though did think it might have been more Lennon's fault when the rumour was senior Hibs players went to Dempster about it . He probably lost the plot and crossed the line like he did with Dempster tbh .

Hell of a lot of supposition and guesswork in that post.

[WeeRussell]

At the risk of repeating myself, dealing with a weasel like Kamberi would put most of us over the edge.

Out of interest, what made him a weasel in your eyes apart from subsequently saying how happy he was to get the chance to play for rangers?

[oneone73]

Equalled our record points haul

For three points for a win in a 38-game season. Context is important.

[Lancs Harp]

Its a good debate and what message boards are for. There's clearly a wide variety of thought and opinion on the matter and doubt and questions asked of whoever we appoint in different sections of our support.

Personally i think we'll look forward to a new beginning and dont think the appointment will be anybody previously connected.

I wonder who is in BM's little black contact book.

[WeeRussell]

Its a good debate and what message boards are for. There's clearly a wide variety of thought and opinion on the matter and doubt and questions asked of whoever we appoint in different sections of our support.

Personally i think we'll look forward to a new beginning and dont think the appointment will be anybody previously connected.

I wonder who is in BM's little black contact book.

This is where I am too. I’m kind of swaying towards wondering if Robinson would work out best from the quoted names, but suspect it’ll be someone we’ve not been discussing.

I think Lennon going odds-on will be an over reaction to the media, as so often happens with new manager markets.

[Lago]

If people thought I had an agenda against LJ then if Neil Lennon gets the job I can assure it’s all I’ll post. A horrible human being that should be nowhere near our club.
Well I suppose your consistent if nothing else, just love the bickering started already and no appointment made 😂

[1van Sprou7e]

>Because he has no respect for our club.

Patently untrue

>Because he is a difficult and troubled man and we need a strong, professional, cool head in charge.

Harsh but fair

>Because when things started to go wrong and the team that he inherited began to break up, he had no idea how to get things back on track.

Fair

>Because he is Celtic through and through and will be constantly on TV and radio talking about them and being positive about them even if he is our manager.


Basically irrelevant to his performance as manager

>Because the weegie media want him to get the job.

Strange reason to not want someone

>Because I want someone fresh, exciting and succesful and I don't beleive Lennon is any of those things.

Good luck getting someone more exciting and successful than him

>Because he brings with him the issues of sectarianism and associates us with all the Old Firm bile that comes with it.

Victim blaming nonsense


>Because I want a new beggining, new hope, new dreams..not a repeat of past failures.

Fair

Definitely reasonable points about not wanting to look to the past but the fact some people agree with most of this bile shows it's a personal issue many have with Lennon

[BegbieHSC]

Why not Lennon ?

Because he has no respect for our club.
Because he is a difficult and troubled man and we need a strong, professional, cool head in charge.
Because when things started to go wrong and the team that he inherited began to break up, he had no idea how to get things back on track. Because he is Celtic through and through and will be constantly on TV and radio talking about them and being positive about them even if he is our manager.
Because the weegie media want him to get the job.
Because I want someone fresh, exciting and succesful and I don't beleive Lennon is any of those things.
Because he brings with him the issues of sectarianism and associates us with all the Old Firm bile that comes with it.
Because I want a new beggining, new hope, new dreams..not a repeat of past failures.

That enough for you ?

I’m really not on board with this response at all. Firstly, is personally referring to him as a “troubled man” really fair and acceptable?

Also your point, “Because he brings with him the issues of sectarianism and associates us with all the Old Firm bile that comes with it.” The association Lennon has with sectarianism is having bullets being posted through his door, attacked on the street and in stadiums, as well as having chants from the stands attacking him for the cheek of being an Irish Catholic.
What I don’t want to be associated with is victim-blaming, and that’s exactly what that comment is.

If you want to object to Lennon as a manager, do so on his record. Not on his personal background. Be reasonable!

[Callum_62]

For three points for a win in a 38-game season. Context is important.For context 3 points for a win was brought into Scotland in 1994

Almost 3 decades ago

I believe it was 2000 the split was introduced

Just the 23 years ago



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[JimBHibees]

“Nick Montgomery, however, remains firmly in the mix”

Thank ****.

Hope so

[oneone73]

For context 3 points for a win was brought into Scotland in 1994

Almost 3 decades ago

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Biggest points total since 1994, though I think there were a fair few seasons of 36 games. Could be wrong there.

[tonyrougier123]

Nigel clough.

[Callum_62]

Nigel clough.1400 games under his belt

Certainly experienced

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[bingo70]

Would’ve expected a bit more chat on McInnes

Maybe the manager of the club that finished 10th last season isn’t as appealing to the owners as it is some of the supporters.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Why not Lennon ?

Because he has no respect for our club.
Because he is a difficult and troubled man and we need a strong, professional, cool head in charge.
Because when things started to go wrong and the team that he inherited began to break up, he had no idea how to get things back on track. Because he is Celtic through and through and will be constantly on TV and radio talking about them and being positive about them even if he is our manager.
Because the weegie media want him to get the job.
Because I want someone fresh, exciting and succesful and I don't beleive Lennon is any of those things.
Because he brings with him the issues of sectarianism and associates us with all the Old Firm bile that comes with it.
Because I want a new beggining, new hope, new dreams..not a repeat of past failures.

That enough for you ?

Agreed.

Though the sectarianism angle obviously isn't Lennon's fault, it just comes as an attachment because the bigots in this country see him as the poster boy for their hatred and that hatred follows him wherever he goes ... I certainly wouldn't discount him for the Hibs job because of that.

But for all the other reasons you have given and my own experience of the final months of his last time here I just don't want him back. It will noise up the Jambos and Sticky Buns if we appoint him isn't a reason to consider somebody for the Hibs job and neither is 'it will be a rollercoaster' ,,, Following this club is already enough of a rollercoaster and following 4 sacked managers in near enough as many years we need somebody to bring sensible management with a calm head and a distinct idea of how he want's to play and who doesn't speak in riddles .... It won't be Stubbs, but someone like him is exactly what we need at this point.

After reading the pen picture of Nick Montgomery of Central Coast Mariners he sounds like exactly the kind of manager we need. He seems able to make that a club more than the sum of it's parts consistently punching above it's weight and clearly seems to be a good, if not very good, man manager. The fact he has only been a manager for a couple of years might count against him, but then neither Maloney or Stubbs had ever been a manager, one a success one a failure. The other thing is he spent all of his career at Sheffield United as a defensive midfield player, an area of this club's team that needs serious attention.

Postecoglou came from a background of the A league and Japanese football, neither of which rate in the upper echelons of the world game, though both countries seem capable of producing decent players, especially Japan.

I doubt he will end up being our manager, but if not him then we simply have to give McInnes a shot if we can. IMO at this point Neil Francis Lennon ( sic ) is exactly what we DONT need.

[tonyrougier123]

1400 games under his belt

Certainly experienced

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Beat hearts 3-1 in pre season. Started season well. Managed big clubs.
As you say well versed in management. Steady experienced manager with huge knowledge of English leagues and plenty contacts.

[Hibbyradge]

Whoever it is, can we please have the relevant "green and white army"smiley, please.

No wonder there's been so much failure! :rolleyes:

[Oscar T Grouch]

Is the 5-5 game really something to pat him on the back for? We threw away a 3 goal lead in that game then he ran on the park like a primary school child to celebrate a draw. It's like when he celebrated Hearts having a goal disallowed. Failed to win both games. Cringeworthy stuff.

See I find it weird that people cringe at other people doing things, I tend to reserve my cringe for my own foibles and misdemeanours.

The 5-5 game, I think is a perfect example of what Lennon was like and what Hibs are like as a club, taking that 3 goal lead, the possibility of overtaking them in the league and clinching third, then the total collapse, letting in 5 goals without response and then the fightback to gain a point. We needed 5 goals against them to steal 3rd, we got that but forgot that we had to keep a clean sheet to succeed in it, that's totally Hibs. It was thoroughly entertaining and personally I was peeing myself at Lennons antics towards the hun hoards. So I will repeat again, I have never been as entertained by Hibs as when Lennon was in charge, I was also glad when he left and would prefer it if he didn't come back but I will not deny what is truth for me.

And finally to answer your question in the first line of your response, hell yes the 5-5 game is something to pat him on the back for, it completed my set of seeing Hibs draw games from 0-0 to 6-6, it was a brilliant game, it was a brilliant atmosphere and the hun hoards left ER disappointed the only thing disappointing about it for me as a Hibee was not getting all 3 points. Oh and I have celebrated many a draw and quite often my celebrations have been childlike and immature and I don't care about that!

[NAE NOOKIE]

Whoever it is, can we please have the relevant "green and white army"smiley, please.

No wonder there's been so much failure! :rolleyes:

:nlgwa .... Maybe someone in the admins knew more than they were letting on :greengrin

[GreenGray]

Maybe the manager of the club that finished 10th last season isn’t as appealing to the owners as it is some of the supporters.

But the manager who left us in 8th is? Hope not.

[#2 Double Tap]

For three points for a win in a 38-game season. Context is important.

wasnt it mcliesh who had the points record, 66, in a 38 game season?

[bingo70]

But the manager who left us in 8th is? Hope not.

8th is higher than 10th 😜

Lot of football been played since then as well and circumstances are different this time.

[GreenGray]

8th is higher than 10th 😜

Lot of football been played since then as well and circumstances are different this time.

Yes, the circumstances are worse for Lennon to come into than they were when he first came.

Cannot wrap my head around why people want him. It is easy to be blinded by that great second half of the season I understand that. But compare that midfield to that one we have now.

I keep reading about wanting stability, yet we want to appoint the opposite of that in Lennon. If we get him in we will all be having the new manager conversation in another 12-18 months. At least one positive will be the fact we wont have to hear Lennon's name being touted ever again.

[badabing67]

Would he even be that interested? He's only just got up and running at Killie and has like 4 years on his contract


I feel he is waiting for the Hearts job which will be up for grabs soon enough.

[Brightside]

Why not Lennon ?

Because he has no respect for our club.
Because he is a difficult and troubled man and we need a strong, professional, cool head in charge.
Because when things started to go wrong and the team that he inherited began to break up, he had no idea how to get things back on track. Because he is Celtic through and through and will be constantly on TV and radio talking about them and being positive about them even if he is our manager.
Because the weegie media want him to get the job.
Because I want someone fresh, exciting and succesful and I don't beleive Lennon is any of those things.
Because he brings with him the issues of sectarianism and associates us with all the Old Firm bile that comes with it.
Because I want a new beggining, new hope, new dreams..not a repeat of past failures.

That enough for you ?

Bravo

[KWJ]

See I find it weird that people cringe at other people doing things, I tend to reserve my cringe for my own foibles and misdemeanours.

The 5-5 game, I think is a perfect example of what Lennon was like and what Hibs are like as a club, taking that 3 goal lead, the possibility of overtaking them in the league and clinching third, then the total collapse, letting in 5 goals without response and then the fightback to gain a point. We needed 5 goals against them to steal 3rd, we got that but forgot that we had to keep a clean sheet to succeed in it, that's totally Hibs. It was thoroughly entertaining and personally I was peeing myself at Lennons antics towards the hun hoards. So I will repeat again, I have never been as entertained by Hibs as when Lennon was in charge, I was also glad when he left and would prefer it if he didn't come back but I will not deny what is truth for me.

And finally to answer your question in the first line of your response, hell yes the 5-5 game is something to pat him on the back for, it completed my set of seeing Hibs draw games from 0-0 to 6-6, it was a brilliant game, it was a brilliant atmosphere and the hun hoards left ER disappointed the only thing disappointing about it for me as a Hibee was not getting all 3 points. Oh and I have celebrated many a draw and quite often my celebrations have been childlike and immature and I don't care about that!

It really was an incredible game. For a few minutes we were thinking the impossible could happen. Then we conceded 5 goals and yet we somehow left the happier set of fans. Incredible.

[ScottB]

For me, it’s wanting the hope, the excitement that things could start going better. Mowbray, Collins, Stubbs etc were all novices, but built great teams to watch and hinted that they could be great managers that would go onto bigger things. Obviously only Mowbray did, but it was the same reason the Maloney hiring appealed to me, it felt like we were looking for ‘the next big thing’ to give them a chance. I’ll always be more excited and give more time to someone like that.

Experience is an understandable thing to go for, but for me it lacks that hope or excitement, because you can look at the guy’s record and see exactly what you’re going to get; Lee was everything Sunderland and Bristol fans said he would be, he’s too far in to his career to change now, there was no untapped potential, no excitement we might have uncovered a gem, just waiting for him to run out of steam, as he did at his previous clubs.

Lennon is similar in that respect. He’s an old head now, he’s not likely to be off pondering his flaws, nor is there some level of ability he hasn’t yet reached. We know exactly what we’ll get from him, because we’ve seen it, don’t even have to ask other clubs fans! Do the same thing, expect the same result, essentially. I don’t find that particularly exciting, more like just waiting to see at what point he’ll go in the huff, stop doing interviews or chuck a chair at somebody because he can’t turn around a bad patch of form.

[Brightside]

Well I suppose your consistent if nothing else, just love the bickering started already and no appointment made 😂

Not seeing much in the way of bickering just yet. Important to go for the ball as ever.

[Lancs Harp]

It really was an incredible game. For a few minutes we were thinking the impossible could happen. Then we conceded 5 goals and yet we somehow left the happier set of fans. Incredible.

It was one of the most amazing matches Ive ever seen. It had it all, it was a great game and the atmosphere especially in the first 20 minutes or so and again at the end was brilliant.

[bingo70]

Yes, the circumstances are worse for Lennon to come into than they were when he first came.

Cannot wrap my head around why people want him. It is easy to be blinded by that great second half of the season I understand that. But compare that midfield to that one we have now.

I keep reading about wanting stability, yet we want to appoint the opposite of that in Lennon. If we get him in we will all be having the new manager conversation in another 12-18 months. At least one positive will be the fact we wont have to hear Lennon's name being touted ever again.

I think anybody who wants stability from a manager now is delusional. It’s never happening.

If they’re good they’ll leave for bigger things, if they’re ***** they’ll get sacked and if they’re middle of the road people will get bored and want rid for something more exciting.

I get why people don’t want Lennon, he wouldn’t be my first choice either. I can see the appeal though and I’m getting quite excited at the prospect. There’s been loads of good explanations as to why people want him back, nobody is saying you have to agree with the arguments but there is a good case for him.

I think it’s entirely possible to be excited about the attributes he does bring, without being blind to the negatives and that’s where I am with him.

I’m excited about going on an exciting journey again.

[Paulie Walnuts]

It was one of the most amazing matches Ive ever seen. It had it all, it was a great game and the atmosphere especially in the first 20 minutes or so and again at the end was brilliant.

:agree:

Anyone suggesting the 5-5 game was a negative may as well give up football.

It’s up there with the best games I’ve ever seen.

[worcesterhibby]

I’m really not on board with this response at all. Firstly, is personally referring to him as a “troubled man” really fair and acceptable?

Also your point, “Because he brings with him the issues of sectarianism and associates us with all the Old Firm bile that comes with it.” The association Lennon has with sectarianism is having bullets being posted through his door, attacked on the street and in stadiums, as well as having chants from the stands attacking him for the cheek of being an Irish Catholic.
What I don’t want to be associated with is victim-blaming, and that’s exactly what that comment is.

If you want to object to Lennon as a manager, do so on his record. Not on his personal background. Be reasonable!

In many ways you have a fair point, particularly when it comes to the sectariansim that follows Lennon about - that's not his fault and I'm in no way blaming him for it, I just hate it with a passion and I know it would rear it's ugly head again were he in charge. Suggesting we shouldn't appoint him on that basis is however, akin to not appointing a black manager because it might illicit racism, so I'm happy to take it back - I would hate the increase in sectariansim associated with our club if he was manager and it would no doubt happen - but I can't blame Lennon for that.

With regards the "troubled man" comment, maybe that's not a PC way to describe my concerns about his "toys out the pram" behaviour when he was last in charge - refusing to take training sessions, refusing to turn up for press conferences and reportedly abusing and shouting at our CEO. Amend the "troubled man" comment for any you find more acceptable, but I still have grave reservation about his ability to keep calm in a crisis and find a way to get things back on track again when they go wrong - that's what I meant by it and I stick by that.

[worcesterhibby]

For me, it’s wanting the hope, the excitement that things could start going better. Mowbray, Collins, Stubbs etc were all novices, but built great teams to watch and hinted that they could be great managers that would go onto bigger things. Obviously only Mowbray did, but it was the same reason the Maloney hiring appealed to me, it felt like we were looking for ‘the next big thing’ to give them a chance. I’ll always be more excited and give more time to someone like that.

Experience is an understandable thing to go for, but for me it lacks that hope or excitement, because you can look at the guy’s record and see exactly what you’re going to get; Lee was everything Sunderland and Bristol fans said he would be, he’s too far in to his career to change now, there was no untapped potential, no excitement we might have uncovered a gem, just waiting for him to run out of steam, as he did at his previous clubs.

Lennon is similar in that respect. He’s an old head now, he’s not likely to be off pondering his flaws, nor is there some level of ability he hasn’t yet reached. We know exactly what we’ll get from him, because we’ve seen it, don’t even have to ask other clubs fans! Do the same thing, expect the same result, essentially. I don’t find that particularly exciting, more like just waiting to see at what point he’ll go in the huff, stop doing interviews or chuck a chair at somebody because he can’t turn around a bad patch of form.

Excellent post and I feel very similar :aok:

[greenpaper55]

Lennon is just another re tread that’s failed everywhere he has managed so where is the logic that says he will be a great manager for us this time round ? None in my opinion.

[GreenGray]

I think anybody who wants stability from a manager now is delusional. It’s never happening.

If they’re good they’ll leave for bigger things, if they’re ***** they’ll get sacked and if they’re middle of the road people will get bored and want rid for something more exciting.

I get why people don’t want Lennon, he wouldn’t be my first choice either. I can see the appeal though and I’m getting quite excited at the prospect. There’s been loads of good explanations as to why people want him back, nobody is saying you have to agree with the arguments but there is a good case for him.

I think it’s entirely possible to be excited about the attributes he does bring, without being blind to the negatives and that’s where I am with him.

I’m excited about going on an exciting journey again.

Stability doesn’t need to mean having a manager for a longer period of time though.

I genuinely don’t believe there is a good case for him as for every slight “positive” there is a negative to heavily outweigh it. Every explanation I have seen for people wanting him refers to his previous tenure where we had a much better team and working environment.


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[Lancs Harp]

Villa 0 Hibs 6

SDG gets the job.

[B.H.F.C]

Lennon is just another re tread that’s failed everywhere he has managed so where is the logic that says he will be a great manager for us this time round ? None in my opinion.

I get that folk have different opinions but saying things like he’s failed everywhere is just wrong.

[Unseen work]

Lennon is just another re tread that’s failed everywhere he has managed so where is the logic that says he will be a great manager for us this time round ? None in my opinion.

I’m not one that is wanting Lennon back but to say he’s failed everywhere he has been is just absolute nonsense

[Jones28]

>Because he has no respect for our club.

Patently untrue

>Because he is a difficult and troubled man and we need a strong, professional, cool head in charge.

Harsh but fair

>Because when things started to go wrong and the team that he inherited began to break up, he had no idea how to get things back on track.

Fair

>Because he is Celtic through and through and will be constantly on TV and radio talking about them and being positive about them even if he is our manager.


Basically irrelevant to his performance as manager

>Because the weegie media want him to get the job.

Strange reason to not want someone

>Because I want someone fresh, exciting and succesful and I don't beleive Lennon is any of those things.

Good luck getting someone more exciting and successful than him

>Because he brings with him the issues of sectarianism and associates us with all the Old Firm bile that comes with it.

Victim blaming nonsense


>Because I want a new beggining, new hope, new dreams..not a repeat of past failures.

Fair

Definitely reasonable points about not wanting to look to the past but the fact some people agree with most of this bile shows it's a personal issue many have with Lennon

I agree with it and it’s only personal because of the way he behaved in his last few months in charge. Not doing press conferences and picking mental teams like some sort of rebellious teenager trying to piss off their parents.

The way Kamberi behaved was hardly the crime of the century, I think they way lennon treated him was far worse considering the guy had just made his move permanent.

[Iain G]

I’m not one that is wanting Lennon back but to say he’s failed everywhere he has been is just absolute nonsense

He crashed and burned at Hibs, which is the important bit.

If we get Lennon, an already fractured support will become even more fractured, we need new and someone we can all get behind.

[leith lynx]

Villa 0 Hibs 6

SDG gets the job.

Maybe, 0-7 seals it tho!

[Waxy]

He crashed and burned at Hibs, which is the important bit.

If we get Lennon, an already fractured support will become even more fractured, we need new and someone we can all get behind.

Fractured support?
You mean a support with different opinions?
Words are great eh
We will never find someone that everyone is happy with

[I'm_cabbaged]

That’s certainly my prevailing memory of Stubbs’ time at Hibs, nothing else comes to mind

Don’t get me wrong, he’ll always be a hero. However if it wasn’t for the cup he’d be remembered as the man that had 2 shots at getting us promotion and failing.

[Iain G]

Fractured support?
You mean a support with different opinions?
Words are great eh
We will never find someone that everyone is happy with

Fractured seems more accurate to me, given how forcefully people were stating their opinions around LJ this past few months. But that's my different opinion.

[MWHIBBIES]

Don’t get me wrong, he’ll always be a hero. However if it wasn’t for the cup he’d be remembered as the man that had 2 shots at getting us promotion and failing.

Hero? He's a stone cold Hibs legend. He broke the curse. I'd take another 3 years in that league to relive the cup win.

[Heedersnvolleys]

>Because he has no respect for our club.

Patently untrue

>Because he is a difficult and troubled man and we need a strong, professional, cool head in charge.

Harsh but fair

>Because when things started to go wrong and the team that he inherited began to break up, he had no idea how to get things back on track.

Fair

>Because he is Celtic through and through and will be constantly on TV and radio talking about them and being positive about them even if he is our manager.


Basically irrelevant to his performance as manager

>Because the weegie media want him to get the job.

Strange reason to not want someone

>Because I want someone fresh, exciting and succesful and I don't beleive Lennon is any of those things.

Good luck getting someone more exciting and successful than him

>Because he brings with him the issues of sectarianism and associates us with all the Old Firm bile that comes with it.

Victim blaming nonsense


>Because I want a new beggining, new hope, new dreams..not a repeat of past failures.

Fair

Definitely reasonable points about not wanting to look to the past but the fact some people agree with most of this bile shows it's a personal issue many have with Lennon
Have you interviewed for a job? Of course you take personal issues into account. That’s why companies troll through your social media, take a face to face meetings to see how people react under pressure, how you would interact with other employees and to see if you’re a personable human being. All areas you need to take into account.
I don’t envy Hibs trying to get a replacement for me there is no obvious choice. Not even an obvious category, experienced in Scottish game? Exciting young manager? Steady Eddie type? Someone from Lower league England? All recently have been tried. Then you have to take into account compensation and how that would affect the playing budget.

[I'm_cabbaged]

Hero? He's a stone cold Hibs legend. He broke the curse. I'd take another 3 years in that league to relive the cup win.

I’m not saying that. What I’m saying is people get misty eyed when it’s coming down to our next manager, some people are forgetting about the bad times with Lennon, why not under Stubbs?

[MWHIBBIES]

I’m not saying that. What I’m saying is people get misty eyed when it’s coming down to our next manager, some people are forgetting about the bad times with Lennon, why not under Stubbs?

Both had some tough times. Stubbs inherited a mess and build a cup winning side. Lennon inherited a cup winning side and left a mess.

Turn arounds like ours under Stubbs are extremely rare in football. He deserves a bit more slack for bad results imo.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Fractured support?
You mean a support with different opinions?
Words are great eh
We will never find someone that everyone is happy with

True.

I don't think the appointment of Lennon would fracture our support to the extent that you will see the 'I'm not coming back until he's gone' comments. I'm very much in the no camp, but if he was appointed I certainly wouldn't see it as a reason not to go to games and I don't think anybody else would either.

In fact you might see an upturn in our crowds in the short term, because if there's one thing Lennon isn't its boring.

If it's McInnes crowd wise we'll probably chug along as we are just now until folk see proof of an upturn in our fortunes. Pretty well how I would see the appointment of an unknown manager as well, EG Nick Montgomery.

Then you get to the likes of Martindale or MacKay. Either one could well see a downturn in the crowds for reasons we all know about, Especially MacKay .... say what you like about Martindale but he's served his time and perhaps we could accept he has been redeemed more than MacKay has. Whatever you think of his past what Martindale has done at Livvi is nothing short of miraculous .. whether that makes him suitable for an entirely different job and set of expectations is another matter.

[B.H.F.C]

He crashed and burned at Hibs, which is the important bit.

If we get Lennon, an already fractured support will become even more fractured, we need new and someone we can all get behind.

It seems pretty clear that whoever gets the job is going to split opinion.

The only way they are going to make it a happier place is by getting us winning. Even the most popular of appointments would soon be feeling the heat if results don’t pick up quickly.

[Smartie]

For me, it’s wanting the hope, the excitement that things could start going better. Mowbray, Collins, Stubbs etc were all novices, but built great teams to watch and hinted that they could be great managers that would go onto bigger things. Obviously only Mowbray did, but it was the same reason the Maloney hiring appealed to me, it felt like we were looking for ‘the next big thing’ to give them a chance. I’ll always be more excited and give more time to someone like that.

Experience is an understandable thing to go for, but for me it lacks that hope or excitement, because you can look at the guy’s record and see exactly what you’re going to get; Lee was everything Sunderland and Bristol fans said he would be, he’s too far in to his career to change now, there was no untapped potential, no excitement we might have uncovered a gem, just waiting for him to run out of steam, as he did at his previous clubs.

Lennon is similar in that respect. He’s an old head now, he’s not likely to be off pondering his flaws, nor is there some level of ability he hasn’t yet reached. We know exactly what we’ll get from him, because we’ve seen it, don’t even have to ask other clubs fans! Do the same thing, expect the same result, essentially. I don’t find that particularly exciting, more like just waiting to see at what point he’ll go in the huff, stop doing interviews or chuck a chair at somebody because he can’t turn around a bad patch of form.

I get what you’re saying about hope and optimism - for me, Montgomery is the baggage-free candidate that seems to offer the most positives without the negatives that Lennon would bring for a not insignificant chunk of our support.

[Unseen work]

He crashed and burned at Hibs, which is the important bit.

If we get Lennon, an already fractured support will become even more fractured, we need new and someone we can all get behind.

No arguments with that, but to say he’s failed everywhere he has been is a lie.

[Smartie]

Both had some tough times. Stubbs inherited a mess and build a cup winning side. Lennon inherited a cup winning side and left a mess.

Turn arounds like ours under Stubbs are extremely rare in football. He deserves a bit more slack for bad results imo.

I don’t recall much about the recruitment process of the time but the simply stupendous number of incredibly good players brought to the club, in the Championship, under Stubbs should never be under appreciated.

For many reasons he should be cut a lot of slack, although some of our league performances under him require quite a lot of slack to be cut.

[MWHIBBIES]

I don’t recall much about the recruitment process of the time but the simply stupendous number of incredibly good players brought to the club, in the Championship, under Stubbs should never be under appreciated.

For many reasons he should be cut a lot of slack, although some of our league performances under him require quite a lot of slack to be cut.

Results maybe. Our performances were mostly very good and consistent. We absolutely battered sides and lost games.

[WhileTheChief..]

Yes, the circumstances are worse for Lennon to come into than they were when he first came.

Cannot wrap my head around why people want him. It is easy to be blinded by that great second half of the season I understand that. But compare that midfield to that one we have now.

I keep reading about wanting stability, yet we want to appoint the opposite of that in Lennon. If we get him in we will all be having the new manager conversation in another 12-18 months. At least one positive will be the fact we wont have to hear Lennon's name being touted ever again.

Or he might be successful and stick around for 4+ years.

He talked more sense in that PLZ show than LJ ever did about us.

He knows what’s needed, has matured, and would maybe do things differently this time around.

I

[GreenGray]

Or he might be successful and stick around for 4+ years.

He talked more sense in that PLZ show than LJ ever did about us.

He knows what’s needed, has matured, and would maybe do things differently this time around.

I
He has only stayed in one job for 4 years, his first stint with Celtic. We haven't had a manager stay for longer than 4+ years sync Alex Miller. I would say the chances of him staying that long are pretty slim.

I wouldn't judge him off a TV interview where he is clearly putting himself in the shop window.

"Maybe do things differently" I would rather not take that chance to be honest, history tells you it wont happen.

[Iain G]

It seems pretty clear that whoever gets the job is going to split opinion.

The only way they are going to make it a happier place is by getting us winning. Even the most popular of appointments would soon be feeling the heat if results don’t pick up quickly.

At least if it's an unknown new bod we may all have some hope for the first 24 hours at least 😁

[#2 Double Tap]

lennon brought a few good players tae.

Marciano, bogdan, Ambrose, Commons, and barker probly the highlight. he pretty much made boyle the susperstar that he is.....had stevenson playing like never before.....lots of big ticks imo

re signed Allan.

mallan in his first year from ACM was fantastic, POTY if i remember correctly, horgan, shinnie and murray all gave us great derby day displays and kamberi and mclaren in that 6 months was sensational..... omeonga was decent tae, so was holt, slivka wasnt the worst either......

sure there was some crap signings, milligan being the worst imo but the standard of signing was higher than it is now.

[Donegal Hibby]

Hell of a lot of supposition and guesswork in that post.

Maybe there is though between missing training sessions , press conferences , threatening to quit after playing poorly . Neil Lennon could have dealt with a lot of situations better and the bust up about Kamberi was no different and if he did say what he did to Leanne Dempster he handled that badly too . Folk on here have been implying he's probably learnt from his mistake's at us , I still think the guys a loose cannon .
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12622027/neil-lennon-sent-off-for-furious-outburst-in-cypriot-cup-final

[wookie70]

Results maybe. Our performances were mostly very good and consistent. We absolutely battered sides and lost games.

Our results under Stubbs were broadly comparable to Lennon's in that league too. The biggest difference was the composition of the league. If the argument is that Lennon succeeded in promotion then I dare say finishing 3rd in the top league under Ross must be a bigger achievement than 4th under Lennon so why is he not top of the list. Even LJ managed 5th. I liked Stubbs, he ended up a legend but I'm never keen on players returning and I would be even less keen on managers coming back especially one that left with a poor run of form, players unhappy, a squad a pale shadow of teh one he inherited, accusations of homophobic language, not fulfilling his duties in terms of the press and some utterly bizarre team selections and behaviour.

[Since452]

Maybe there is though between missing training sessions , press conferences , threatening to quit after playing poorly . Neil Lennon could have dealt with a lot of situations better and the bust up about Kamberi was no different and if he did say what he did to Leanne Dempster he handled that badly too . Folk on here have been implying he's probably learnt from his mistake's at us , I still think the guys a loose cannon .
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12622027/neil-lennon-sent-off-for-furious-outburst-in-cypriot-cup-final

If you're in your 50's and acting like a roaster, chances are you'll always be a roaster.

[Brightside]

lennon brought a few good players tae.

Marciano, bogdan, Ambrose, Commons, and barker probly the highlight. he pretty much made boyle the susperstar that he is.....had stevenson playing like never before.....lots of big ticks imo

re signed Allan.

mallan in his first year from ACM was fantastic, POTY if i remember correctly, horgan, shinnie and murray all gave us great derby day displays and kamberi and mclaren in that 6 months was sensational..... omeonga was decent tae, so was holt, slivka wasnt the worst either......

sure there was some crap signings, milligan being the worst imo but the standard of signing was higher than it is now.

Hang on. You have Barker as a good signing and Milligan being the worst?? Really?

[Crazyhorse]

True.

I don't think the appointment of Lennon would fracture our support to the extent that you will see the 'I'm not coming back until he's gone' comments. I'm very much in the no camp, but if he was appointed I certainly wouldn't see it as a reason not to go to games and I don't think anybody else would either.

In fact you might see an upturn in our crowds in the short term, because if there's one thing Lennon isn't its boring.

If it's McInnes crowd wise we'll probably chug along as we are just now until folk see proof of an upturn in our fortunes. Pretty well how I would see the appointment of an unknown manager as well, EG Nick Montgomery.

Then you get to the likes of Martindale or MacKay. Either one could well see a downturn in the crowds for reasons we all know about, Especially MacKay .... say what you like about Martindale but he's served his time and perhaps we could accept he has been redeemed more than MacKay has. Whatever you think of his past what Martindale has done at Livvi is nothing short of miraculous .. whether that makes him suitable for an entirely different job and set of expectations is another matter.

I take it that we are getting no indication from any sources of who might be in the running for the Hibs job?
Certainly no one was being lined up before LJ got the bullet or something would probably have leaked out by now.

[Libby Hibby]

What do the Tories say?…

Get Lennon Done

[Musselbound]

Very disappointing if it's Neil Lennon we are after , obviously we have learnt nothing after his first stint at us that ended with Hibs playing poorly and all the turmoil he caused . Certainly not a manager who's going to unite the support !

Is there really a candidate who would unite the support? I think Derek McInnes is the most popular choice in the recent poll but he has loads of detractors who've already decided they don't like his defensive or boring brand of football. It's always a problem for whoever gets the job and the minute there is a poor result or run, as inevitably there will be, this will surface. The same as you say with Lennon and his track record at ER.

[The Captain....]

I'm pretty ambivalent about Lennon tbh. If it's him fair enough.

Would be pretty surprised tho as I'd have thought the Board would be looking to make an appointment that would bring everyone together. I don't think the potential appointment of Lennon does that..in fact the opposite.

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[#2 Double Tap]

Hang on. You have Barker as a good signing and Milligan being the worst?? Really?

100%

one guy glided past players, scored a few goals, set up more and then moved on to rangers, the other allowed everyone to glide past him like he wasnt even there and ended up in englands league 1 or 2.....tells its own story really.......

i wouldnt image anyone would describe milligan as a good or sucessful signing for us, he was honking

[Brightside]

100%

one guy glided past players, scored a few goals, set up more and then moved on to rangers, the other allowed everyone to glide past him like he wasnt even there and ended up in englands league 1 or 2.....tells its own story really.......

i wouldnt image anyone would describe milligan as a good or sucessful signing for us, he was honking

:greengrin. Milligan was a more than capable CDM. Barker was made of weetabix and went past players about 4 times all year.

[#2 Double Tap]

:greengrin. Milligan was a more than capable CDM. Barker was made of weetabix and went past players about 4 times all year.

statements like that are why LJ got branded a slaver ;)

[Onion]

Villa 0 Hibs 6

SDG gets the job.

Yeah. at Real Madrid !

[Smartie]

:greengrin. Milligan was a more than capable CDM. Barker was made of weetabix and went past players about 4 times all year.

Milligan was ridiculously underrated at Hibs, almost as much as Barker was overrated.

[Since452]

:greengrin. Milligan was a more than capable CDM. Barker was made of weetabix and went past players about 4 times all year.

I actually rated Milligan. Thought he was very good and a lot of what he did went unnoticed. He was part of a team and situation that was going tits up though.

[Brightside]

Milligan was ridiculously underrated at Hibs, almost as much as Barker was overrated.

Exactly. I assumed is was tongue in cheek. But if he's a Lennon fan I kind of get it. Attack Attack Attack. :greengrin

[#2 Double Tap]

I actually rated Milligan. Thought he was very good and a lot of what he did went unnoticed. He was part of a team and situation that was going tits up though.

milligan was one of the reasons it went tits up for lenny........a cdm who couldny tackle a fish supper.....go watch any game he played in for us, dreadful player.

[#2 Double Tap]

Exactly. I assumed is was tongue in cheek. But if he's a Lennon fan I kind of get it. Attack Attack Attack. :greengrin

whats the alternative, fall asleep watching jack ross defend, hoof, defend, hoof?

[Brightside]

milligan was one of the reasons it went tits up for lenny........a cdm who couldny tackle a fish supper.....go watch any game he played in for us, dreadful player.

I'm now clear you didn't watch properly. Good tackler, covered the CBs well, generally excellent first ball forward or sideway upon breaking up play.

[Hibby70]

Barker was made of weetabix.

Just his hair it seems

[HoboHarry]

milligan was one of the reasons it went tits up for lenny........a cdm who couldny tackle a fish supper.....go watch any game he played in for us, dreadful player.
What a load of s***e. You're at it.

[NAE NOOKIE]

I take it that we are getting no indication from any sources of who might be in the running for the Hibs job?
Certainly no one was being lined up before LJ got the bullet or something would probably have leaked out by now.

We're getting loads of indication as to who is in the running mate, trouble is none of it seems to be based on anything coming out of the club, which IMO isn't a bad thing. I can't believe though that looking at how the season was going, even this early, our DOF wasn't running lists of candidates through his noggin, that's practically part of his remit I would have thought.

Their problem at the moment is balancing who the fans might get behind or not against who they actually think will be the best fit. Contrary to what a lot of folk are saying I think they would be prepared to find the money to pay reasonable compensation to get the right man and in the end no club with any sense forces a manager to stay if he really want's to go.

As things stand I think they would see the safest option as McInnes, short of him I think it could be another left field candidate, but not one looking for his first gig. I would be seriously surprised given the last 4 years if any of Martindale, MacKay or Lennon is in with a serious shout.

[#2 Double Tap]

I'm now clear you didn't watch properly. Good tackler, covered the CBs well, generally excellent first ball forward or sideway upon breaking up play.

you are dreaming buddy...

[J-C]

I liked Milligan, read the game well, knew when to slot into defence when a CB came forward, we got him 2-3 years too late a bit like Jeggo.

[Brightside]

whats the alternative, fall asleep watching jack ross defend, hoof, defend, hoof?

Just a team that plays decent football but can also grind out results and not just give away loads of daft goals. That comes from having a cohesive unit. So I want a coach that spends just as much time working on all areas of the pitch. Rather than the Vindaloo style of LJ and NL.

[MWHIBBIES]

100%

one guy glided past players, scored a few goals, set up more and then moved on to rangers, the other allowed everyone to glide past him like he wasnt even there and ended up in englands league 1 or 2.....tells its own story really.......

i wouldnt image anyone would describe milligan as a good or sucessful signing for us, he was honking

One had a great career in football. The other was Brandon Barker.

[Unseen work]

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/23756527.aiden-mcgeady-hibs-exit-subsequent-lee-johnson-sacking/

Interesting comments from McGeady re Johnson being less hands on in coaching and not going into much detail

[JohnM1875]

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/23756527.aiden-mcgeady-hibs-exit-subsequent-lee-johnson-sacking/

Interesting comments from McGeady re Johnson being less hands on in coaching and not going into much detail

McGeady is a total fud. Can't stand the guy.

[#2 Double Tap]

One had a great career in football. The other was Brandon Barker.

no doubting he was not always dreadful, but by the time he got to us, he was finished imo

[nonshinyfinish]

Villa 0 Hibs 6

SDG gets the job.

Why not the newly available Unai Emery?

[NAE NOOKIE]

One had a great career in football. The other was Brandon Barker.

Barker is a strange one, there was times at Hibs where he showed real signs that he could amount to something, especially in a 1 - 2 home defeat to the Sticky Buns where for 45 minutes he ripped them apart hitting the post twice from about 20 yards. He was unplayable that night.

[HibeeMackenzie]

I’m no LJ fan but if McGeady hates him as much as he makes out he wouldn’t have signed for him again after being with him at Sunderland

[Northernhibee]

McGeady is a total fud. Can't stand the guy.

If they offered him a contract after last season is like me going to the media to say that if Hibs offer me a contract I’ll turn it down.

[Smartie]

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/23756527.aiden-mcgeady-hibs-exit-subsequent-lee-johnson-sacking/

Interesting comments from McGeady re Johnson being less hands on in coaching and not going into much detail

Interesting point he makes as well about what it felt like to be based in the west and having to travel to East Mains to do his rehab.

I can imagine it got quite frustrating for Magennis as well as possibly some others.

[CapitalGreen]

One had a great career in football. The other was Brandon Barker.

Aiden McGeady had a much better career in football than Scott Allan but I know which one I had more joy from watching in a Hibs shirt.

[Tyler Durden]

I'm now clear you didn't watch properly. Good tackler, covered the CBs well, generally excellent first ball forward or sideway upon breaking up play.

Incredibly slow, not great passer, lost his man at set pieces regularly. Had some good games but overall was poor. Think we just got him a few years too late.

[Tyler Durden]

Interesting point he makes as well about what it felt like to be based in the west and having to travel to East Mains to do his rehab.

I can imagine it got quite frustrating for Magennis as well as possibly some others.

That's their job, isn't it. I'm sure it would be frustrating but you have to be quite tone deaf to moan about such things.

I don't think anyone is going to sympathise with him for signing for Lee Johnson twice.

[badabing67]

I’m no LJ fan but if McGeady hates him as much as he makes out he wouldn’t have signed for him again after being with him at Sunderland


Just the best pay day he could get.

[JammyDoidger]

I liked Milligan, read the game well, knew when to slot into defence when a CB came forward, we got him 2-3 years too late a bit like Jeggo.

A bit like Jeggo? Jeggo is 31 and fit as a fiddle, problem with Jeggo is he's just crap, Milligan was a decent player you could see that with us.

[HoboHarry]

Why not the newly available Unai Emery?

:thumbsup: :greengrin

[KeithTheHibby]

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/23756527.aiden-mcgeady-hibs-exit-subsequent-lee-johnson-sacking/

Interesting comments from McGeady re Johnson being less hands on in coaching and not going into much detail


Johnson was down south most of the week, no wonder.

[Mark05]

Results maybe. Our performances were mostly very good and consistent. We absolutely battered sides and lost games.
For the Most part I loved watching stubbs team,like you say was sometimes scratching your head after a game wandering how we never won it.Not that I think it will happen but give me stubbs any day over Lennon.Must admit I like the sound of Montgomery though

[SHODAN]

Johnson was down south most of the week, no wonder.

Yeah I'm fed up with managers we hire from England who don't relocate up here at least temporarily. This has been a recurring problem.

[MWHIBBIES]

Aiden McGeady had a much better career in football than Scott Allan but I know which one I had more joy from watching in a Hibs shirt.

Barker was overrated. Crocked half the time, very little end product, stood in front of the fullback wanting everything to his feet. Made awful career choices since and is a free agent at the end of august.

[Bridge hibs]

Yeah I'm fed up with managers we hire from England who don't relocate up here at least temporarily. This has been a recurring problem.He did stay in Edinburgh though, his family remained in England

Johnson's playing career took him to Heart of Midlothian but that has clearly been forgotten by their fans, who see only a Hibs manager. “It's not easy. I live slap bang in the middle of Edinburgh. 22 Aug 2023

[7Hero]

There were some slight differences. He was a lot less hands-on in terms of coaching and detail, in terms of the way we were playing.


If that's true then it clearly never worked being less hands on, id like to think any manager worth his salt is gonna be more hands on ..

[CapitalGreen]

Barker was overrated. Crocked half the time, very little end product, stood in front of the fullback wanting everything to his feet. Made awful career choices since and is a free agent at the end of august.

While he did have an unfortunate time with injuries, he was often an enjoyable player to watch and during that season provided me some moments of joy while he was in a Hibs shirt - unless you think I’m wrong and he didn’t provide me with moments of joy?

Not sure why you think his post-Hibs career choices would be relevant to my opinion of him in a Hibs shirt.

[greenlex]

There were some slight differences. He was a lot less hands-on in terms of coaching and detail, in terms of the way we were playing.


If that's true then it clearly never worked being less hands on, id like to think any manager worth his salt is gonna be more hands on ..

We’ve s decent squad more than capable of finishing third. They do however need direction and leadership. It’s looking like that was sadly lacking with Lee Johnson. These qualities are a must in any successful team/club and should be one of the first boxes ticked.

[KWJ]

Shocked to see that the season with us is the most Barker has played in a season his whole career according to Wiki. He did have some sparkling moments but sadly they were too few and far between. We may have even got the best of him.

[Daily Hibs]

Anyone see Lennon talk the job up last night on Sky Sports Soccer Special? Saying it's a very attractive job and another of people will be interested in it. A job with a lot of potential he also added. He was saying McInnes Robinson and Mackay will all want the job too.

Here's where I am confused, outsiders look at the club as highly attractive with a lot of potential but the club doesn't seem like that to the fans with the lack of ambition and making the same mistakes year in year out.

I honestly think it would be refreshing if a manager just came in and cleaned house to allow us to realise our potential.

[He's here!]

Anyone see Lennon talk the job up last night on Sky Sports Soccer Special? Saying it's a very attractive job and another of people will be interested in it. A job with a lot of potential he also added. He was saying McInnes Robinson and Mackay will all want the job too.

Here's where I am confused, outsiders look at the club as highly attractive with a lot of potential but the club doesn't seem like that to the fans with the lack of ambition and making the same mistakes year in year out.

I honestly think it would be refreshing if a manager just came in and cleaned house to allow us to realise our potential.

Hibernian: Neil Lennon keen to talk about possible return to Easter Road - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66658390)

He certainly sounds keen, almost to the point where he's hinting he's got it with with that 'Watch this space'.

[Daily Hibs]

Hibernian: Neil Lennon keen to talk about possible return to Easter Road - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66658390)

He certainly sounds keen, almost to the point where he's hinting he's got it with with that 'Watch this space'.

It's one thing someone like him getting it but he needs to be backed with Carte Blanche to have a widespread clearout. We need a reset to allow us to reach our potential.

It should have happened with the momentum of 2016 but we have underachieved.

Love how much respect he showed the job there.

[Hibernian Verse]

It's one thing someone like him getting it but he needs to be backed with Carte Blanche to have a widespread clearout. We need a reset to allow us to reach our potential.

It should have happened with the momentum of 2016 but we have underachieved.

Love how much respect he showed the job there.

We've just had a clearout. We don't need another one, we just need a manager that can get the best out of a good squad.

[Daily Hibs]

We've just had a clearout. We don't need another one, we just need a manager that can get the best out of a good squad.

We've not had a clear out recently and we don't have a good squad.

Defence is a total shambles and we have a powder puff midfield.

[ScottB]

‘Clearout’ is an easy thing to say but functionally next to impossible to do in short order. Chances are nobody is going to be begging to take players we don’t want en mass, so then it’s burning budget paying folk off.

The new manager will be inheriting the squad that’s here right now, presumably with no further additions. They need to be comfortable with that.

[Northernhibee]

After last time, I don’t Lennon is well equipped to rebuild a squad post clear out. McInnes is.

[ElginHibbie]

‘Clearout’ is an easy thing to say but functionally next to impossible to do in short order. Chances are nobody is going to be begging to take players we don’t want en mass, so then it’s burning budget paying folk off.

The new manager will be inheriting the squad that’s here right now, presumably with no further additions. They need to be comfortable with that.

Not a chance of that happening, be at least a couple of loans coming in I would bet

[degenerated]

He crashed and burned at Hibs, which is the important bit.

If we get Lennon, an already fractured support will become even more fractured, we need new and someone we can all get behind.Doesn't matter who we get, that will happen regardless.

[SChibs]

I wouldn't be against bringing in a defensive type manager as I don't think our defenders are that bad when coached correctly and given clear instructions. Up top could take care of itself with the capable players we have in that department

[eastmainsmsh]

I’m no LJ fan but if McGeady hates him as much as he makes out he wouldn’t have signed for him again after being with him at Sunderland

Wasn’t he a pre contract under Maloney

[KWJ]

Wasn’t he a pre contract under Maloney

No. That was only Henderson.

[overdrive]

I'm that fed up with Hibs that i dont really give a toss who we appoint next, it's only a matter of time before he wont be wanted anymore.

Yep. Pretty much how I feel. Whoever is appointed is likely to either be a failure and punted or a success and gets poached only to be replaced by a failure.

[A Hi-Bee]

Yep. Pretty much how I feel. Whoever is appointed is likely to either be a failure and punted or a success and gets poached only to be replaced by a failure.

The joys of being a Hibs supporter, you could always support one of the others........

[Since452]

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/23756527.aiden-mcgeady-hibs-exit-subsequent-lee-johnson-sacking/

Interesting comments from McGeady re Johnson being less hands on in coaching and not going into much detail

Yeah ok then Aiden. If Hibs had offered you a contract you'd have said nah and signed for Ayr United instead... sure, we believe you pal.

[Unseen work]

Yeah ok then Aiden. If Hibs had offered you a contract you'd have said nah and signed for Aye United instead... sure, we believe you pal.

I also struggle to feel sorry for him travelling to east mains when he was injured

He knew where he would train when he signed and of course he should still be going in when injured to get the best rehab possible

[JohnM1875]

I also struggle to feel sorry for him travelling to east mains when he was injured

He knew where he would train when he signed and of course he should still be going in when injured to get the best rehab possible

Exactly. He's an absolute throbber.

Poor wee Aiden having to travel a few hours each day to go to his workplace. Folk do that all over the world. Gimp.

[babahibs]

The usual trolls on here stirring things,

It won't be Lennon.