Hibs transfer thread (Last Day Update - Anier / Feruz (both loan) in, None out) [Archive] - Page 23

Brightside

13-08-2015, 07:16 AM

Im not getting why we are trialing liddle......surely we should be looking for the best defenders we can instead of lower league defenders with (judging by his twitter comments) next to zero confidence in their own ability

tbf the lad was obv upset after his injury. The net is cast wide and we are looking at plenty of players....id rather that than the old days of some fat goalie building up 200k miles a month finding players for us.

I don't understand how a paper can get a story so wrong though, and continue to publish it in the digital version.

The Leith Dutch

13-08-2015, 07:21 AM

Do you think he's doing a good job?

Based on what I saw last season Oxley is not the absolutely terrible keeper that a lot of people here have him down as although he's clearly had two pretty poor games to start the season off.

I think he's an average keeper who has had a couple of poor games.

Not happy that's where we are but way more concerned that we're not scoring enough goals.

The Leith Dutch

13-08-2015, 07:32 AM

@HibsNews1875: RUMOUR: Celtic have made a bid of £600,000 + Dylan McGeouch for Scott Allan.

Total nonsense.

The value of SA when discussed between Hibs and sevco is a couple of orders of magnitude more than the value of SA when discussed between Hibs and any other club - particularly one like Celtic where he's not remotely needed or close to a first team player.

In the latter scenario he's a decent prospect who has had one good season at a very poor level playing for a club with very little money and from who he is available free at the end of the season. That is not £600,000 worth of player never mind money + a decent prospect of a player.

Aldo

13-08-2015, 08:20 AM

No point in selling. We never re-invest transfer funds successfully.

Really. Sorry but why the negativity??? I think we have invested successfully since Stubbs came in. Scott Allan, McGeouch, Fontaine, Fyvie, Malonga, Gray and a fee for McGinn.

So to say it wouldn't get reinvested properly is way off the mark for me.

Why come out with that sort of rubbish.

Tell you what though I'm glad they've made the stance and given a big two fingers to Der Hun.

The_Horde

13-08-2015, 08:22 AM

Based on what I saw last season Oxley is not the absolutely terrible keeper that a lot of people here have him down as although he's clearly had two pretty poor games to start the season off.

I think he's an average keeper who has had a couple of poor games.

Not happy that's where we are but way more concerned that we're not scoring enough goals.

He does everything fine enough. Kicks well, looks In charge and communicates. But when it comes down to instictive saves, he's just not got it.

Watching the celtic game last night. Had there been 2 oxleys in goal instead of Ronald Mcdonald and plooky the scoreline would've been about 6-6

CraigHibee

13-08-2015, 08:50 AM

@HibsNews1875: RUMOUR: Celtic have made a bid of £600,000 + Dylan McGeouch for Scott Allan.

most things that come from that twitter account is just RUMOUR, take it with a pinch of salt until the club say otherwise however i doubt this is the case.

Thecat23

13-08-2015, 09:02 AM

@MadeUpHorseManure: BREAKING RUMOURED POSSIBILITY: They were trumped 10 minutes later when Barca offered £4m + Pedro.

NEWS JUST IN... This news is ballocks.

JeMeSouviens

13-08-2015, 09:39 AM

most things that come from that twitter account is just RUMOUR, take it with a pinch of salt until the club say otherwise however i doubt this is the case.

Unless it's the gold standard "BREAKING RUMOUR", obv. :aok:

ElginHibbie

13-08-2015, 10:01 AM

J-C

13-08-2015, 10:06 AM

Sky Sports now tweeting about supposed Celtic's interest

Sky Sports News HQ ‏@SkySportsNewsHQ (https://twitter.com/SkySportsNewsHQ) 8m8 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/SkySportsNewsHQ/status/631765139516211201)
BREAKING: Sky Sources: Celtic interested in Rangers' transfer target Scott Allan of Hibernian. More on #SSNHQ (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SSNHQ?src=hash)

Makes sense, their midfield wasn't exactly rolling over Killie last night, it was all very inept, Allan would definitely add to their team, whether he want's to go there is another matter, we still need him to agree to it.

SHODAN

13-08-2015, 10:07 AM

If this is the rumoured deal of money + McGeouch, I will be happy just to see the look on the R*****s fans ****ing faces.

brog

13-08-2015, 10:20 AM

Im not getting why we are trialing liddle......surely we should be looking for the best defenders we can instead of lower league defenders with (judging by his twitter comments) next to zero confidence in their own ability

A couple of years ago everyone on here was getting excited because we were getting a scout who had signed a whole team of good players from the lower leagues. There are plenty decent English lower league players currently doing well in the division above us. A trial is just that & if it helps us find & develop a talent then great, if not we've lost nothing.

McIntosh

13-08-2015, 03:53 PM

Who at the club deals with transfer deals?

Billy Whizz

13-08-2015, 04:05 PM

Who at the club deals with transfer deals?

Think someone said it was George Craig

CropleyWasGod

13-08-2015, 04:07 PM

Think someone said it was George Craig

I would be surprised. He's more of a technical guy.

LD would be my guess. GC and AS will identify the players, and LD will do the deal.

Billy Whizz

13-08-2015, 04:31 PM

I would be surprised. He's more of a technical guy.

LD would be my guess. GC and AS will identify the players, and LD will do the deal.

Just what I was told Crops

easty

13-08-2015, 04:33 PM

A couple of years ago everyone on here was getting excited because we were getting a scout who had signed a whole team of good players from the lower leagues. There are plenty decent English lower league players currently doing well in the division above us. A trial is just that & if it helps us find & develop a talent then great, if not we've lost nothing.

I'd forgot all about him! Is he with Butcher at Newport now?

Gmack7

13-08-2015, 05:30 PM

Think someone said it was George Craig

I'll try and him tonight as he's supposed to be giving a short talk at an under 15 coaching/educated pass in about 20 mins

Hibeesmad

13-08-2015, 05:35 PM

Graeme Mathie has a lot to do with the transfer side of things

woodythehibee

13-08-2015, 05:42 PM

I'd forgot all about him! Is he with Butcher at Newport now?
I'm sure he's at Bolton with Lennon

BoltonHibee

13-08-2015, 05:58 PM

I'm sure he's at Bolton with Lennon

Jim Melrose is the chief scout at Bolton

brog

13-08-2015, 06:25 PM

I'd forgot all about him! Is he with Butcher at Newport now? He was at Grimsby & they made the play off final so I assume he's still there.

Gmack7

13-08-2015, 06:39 PM

I'll try and him tonight as he's supposed to be giving a short talk at an under 15 coaching/educated pass in about 20 mins

Sounds like a done deal and will be announced tomorrow. He didn't go into to much detail though except that it was a good deal for hibs

bill the hibby

13-08-2015, 06:45 PM

Sounds like a done deal and will be announced tomorrow. He didn't go into to much detail though except that it was a good deal for hibs

Pretty much confirmed then

Hibeesmad

13-08-2015, 06:48 PM

Sounds like a done deal and will be announced tomorrow. He didn't go into to much detail though except that it was a good deal for hibs

Great move for him, wish him all the best. Looking forward to the players coming our way in return

BT58

13-08-2015, 06:50 PM

Sounds like a done deal and will be announced tomorrow. He didn't go into to much detail though except that it was a good deal for hibs
IF ,,If true then all i can say is WOW!!!!!. How upset will the hordes of huns who said it was only a matter of time before HFC caved in,,,
obviously we dinnae want to lose our best players,
but at least it COULD be a proper valuation and not the BEANS that the WEE TEAM offered .....GIRUY HUNS :na na::na na::na na::na na:

Gmack7

13-08-2015, 07:12 PM

AlbertK86

13-08-2015, 07:16 PM

Sounds like a done deal and will be announced tomorrow. He didn't go into to much detail though except that it was a good deal for hibs

Fingers crossed

Sevconians beware mucho laughter coming hurtling towards you dafties

GloryGlory

13-08-2015, 07:17 PM

Sounds like a done deal and will be announced tomorrow. He didn't go into to much detail though except that it was a good deal for hibs
Has anyone confirmed the poster's credentials? :wink:

SteveHFC

13-08-2015, 07:17 PM

Sounds like a done deal and will be announced tomorrow. He didn't go into to much detail though except that it was a good deal for hibs

And what players are coming in.

Gmack7

13-08-2015, 07:32 PM

And what players are coming in.

Sorry, I don't know

bill the hibby

13-08-2015, 07:36 PM

If we do get cash, it'll be interesting to see who/how it is spent...a good quality CB or LB and an out and out striker please

hibees 7062

13-08-2015, 07:44 PM

And what players are coming in.

McGoosh and McGregor

scoopyboy

13-08-2015, 07:51 PM

If we do get cash, it'll be interesting to see who/how it is spent...a good quality CB or LB and an out and out striker please

Bill, if it comes off I don't think there will be a lot of money to spend. Certainly not enough to bring in two quality players.

hibeenicol

13-08-2015, 08:13 PM

If we do get cash, it'll be interesting to see who/how it is spent...a good quality CB or LB and an out and out striker please

A wee bid for lee Wallace 100k to start with

SteveHFC

13-08-2015, 08:16 PM

A wee bid for lee Wallace 100k to start with

£50k mate.

Hibeesmad

13-08-2015, 08:19 PM

Off topic from the Allan saga but ive heard Jamie Insall could be announced tomorrow

SteveHFC

13-08-2015, 08:22 PM

Off topic from the Allan saga but ive heard Jamie Insall could be announced tomorrow

So McGeouch, Henderson and Insall all announced :hyper.

The_Horde

13-08-2015, 08:25 PM

So McGeouch, Henderson and Insall all announced :hyper.

Anyone see stubbs interview on stv? There was a player in thr background in full hibs kit. Stocky, blonde guy with a swagger.

Might've been him?

bingo70

13-08-2015, 08:33 PM

Off topic from the Allan saga but ive heard Jamie Insall could be announced tomorrow

I'm quite excited about this signing. I've got a feeling he could end up good.

Andy74

13-08-2015, 09:40 PM

I'm quite excited about this signing. I've got a feeling he could end up good.

Me too. The goals are in the same place as usual.

Alex Trager

13-08-2015, 09:46 PM

I am hoping that any money that comes in from SA is used to bring players in. Surely that will be the case

Andy74

13-08-2015, 09:49 PM

I am hoping that any money that comes in from SA is used to bring players in. Surely that will be the case

Maybe not in fees directly but it will all help.

The Leith Dutch

13-08-2015, 11:05 PM

I am hoping that any money that comes in from SA is used to bring players in. Surely that will be the case

Probably need to move a couple of players on?
Presumably McGeough coming in will be a broadly similar wage to Allan so it's probably more about the overall wage budget.

Based on the squad composition outlined by LD when she came in I'd think we're fairly close to our ceiling in terms of senior players.
Certainly wouldn't say no to a couple in mind ;)

Unseen work

14-08-2015, 12:40 AM

J-C

14-08-2015, 12:49 AM

Excited to see who we buy with the money we get in.

Think we will see Stanton and Harris leave with potentially Martin on loan if we get mcgeouch and Henderson.

Another exciting fact is, we are still waiting on:
Keating
El elagui
Carmichael
Boyle
Forster
To all be watch fit. They will all be pushing for a starting 11 space.

Also everyone seems to of forgotten about how good a signing mginn is!!

Let's strengthen and push on for the league, there is NO reason why not to!

We will play with at least 3 in the middle, if we have McGeouch, Bartley, McGinn, Fyvie and Henderson, which one out of Stanton and Martin will lose out as we'll need at least one of them for cover. My bet would be Stanton to move on as he's been told already he's surplus and can look for a club if he wants.

PeterboroHibee

14-08-2015, 07:14 AM

Excited to see who we buy with the money we get in.

Think we will see Stanton and Harris leave with potentially Martin on loan if we get mcgeouch and Henderson.

Another exciting fact is, we are still waiting on:
Keating
El elagui
Carmichael
Boyle
Forster
To all be watch fit. They will all be pushing for a starting 11 space.

Also everyone seems to of forgotten about how good a signing mginn is!!

Let's strengthen and push on for the league, there is NO reason why not to!

Im usually all for young guys going out on loan, but I think Martin is too close to the first team now (as well as being in Stubbs' plans) for that to be necessary. If the Allan deal goes ahead we do have a lot of central midfielders though, so Id imagine Stanton and possibly Handling when hes fit will move on.

If Harris isnt in the plans then I do feel we need other options as it feels like we are slightly over loaded up front and in midfield (when everyones fit), yet we are lacking wingers and defenders.

MrRobot

14-08-2015, 08:29 AM

If we do get cash, it'll be interesting to see who/how it is spent...a good quality CB or LB and an out and out striker please

Not a dig, im always just curious as to what people mean by an out and out striker? What are Cummings, Malonga & Keatings?

Ozyhibby

14-08-2015, 08:36 AM

Not a dig, im always just curious as to what people mean by an out and out striker? What are Cummings, Malonga & Keatings?

Someone who will score 25+ goals in the Scottish championship. None of these guys managed it last season.

andrew70

14-08-2015, 08:41 AM

Not a dig, im always just curious as to what people mean by an out and out striker? What are Cummings, Malonga & Keatings?

Someone that has a chance conversion rate of around 1 in 3 or 4.

Cummings and Malonga were closer to 1 in 8 last year. Cummings may have scored twenty goals but with the chances we created it should have been at least 30.

Malonga is definitely more of a creative forward with fantastic ability than an opportunistic goal-scoring striker.

Keatings when fit certainly has the ability to score more goals and playing for a free-flowing creative football team he'll score more than he managed last time around.

We need Farid back fit also.

A striker would be great but if anyone can tell me of a clinical striker that's realistically available then I'd love to hear who he is??

Aldo

14-08-2015, 08:42 AM

Someone who will score 25+ goals in the Scottish championship. None of these guys managed it last season.

No one did but Jason managed 19 and topped the scoring charts.

Tbh 3 points is 3 points winning 1 nil or 5 -4.
Yeah it would be squeaky butt time but I would take 1 nil every week as long as it meant us going up.

BSEJVT

14-08-2015, 09:25 AM

Someone that has a chance conversion rate of around 1 in 3 or 4.

Cummings and Malonga were closer to 1 in 8 last year. Cummings may have scored twenty goals but with the chances we created it should have been at least 30.

Malonga is definitely more of a creative forward with fantastic ability than an opportunistic goal-scoring striker.

Keatings when fit certainly has the ability to score more goals and playing for a free-flowing creative football team he'll score more than he managed last time around.

We need Farid back fit also.

A striker would be great but if anyone can tell me of a clinical striker that's realistically available then I'd love to hear who he is??

wow just wow

How many 30 goal a season strikers are there in world football at any level?

Yet we expect a 19 year old laddie who was a gardener less than 18 months previously to score 30 goals in his first full season in the team

No only that but from a team that was at the start of the season an absolute shambles.

Some people need to seriously consider their expectation levels for our players.

Ronniekirk

14-08-2015, 09:29 AM

E10 Rifle

14-08-2015, 09:31 AM

Platinum Scotty

14-08-2015, 09:33 AM

No transfer talk then?

might be worth a separate thread on the striking debate?

Steve20

14-08-2015, 09:37 AM

No one did but Jason managed 19 and topped the scoring charts.

Tbh 3 points is 3 points winning 1 nil or 5 -4.
Yeah it would be squeaky butt time but I would take 1 nil every week as long as it meant us going up.

QOTS 0-1, 0-0, 0-1
Falkirk 0-1, 0-1, 1-1
Raith 1-1, 1-1, 1-2

Games last season that if we had a striker with a better goals/chances ratio, then we would have won most of these games. In this league we can't just beat these sides a couple of times, we're going to have to beat them constantly if we want to win it. We need a better striker up front to be able to achieve that, imo.

Aldo

14-08-2015, 09:39 AM

QOTS 0-1, 0-0, 0-1 Falkirk 0-1, 0-1, 1-1 Raith 1-1, 1-1, 1-2 Games last season that if we had a striker with a better goals/chances ratio, then we would have won most of these games. In this league we can't just beat these sides a couple of times, we're going to have to beat them constantly if we want to win it. We need a better striker up front to be able to achieve that, imo.

Yip I see that. Keatings (if fit) could be that player.

I think at this moment in time I would use the money to bring in a CH.

andrew70

14-08-2015, 09:40 AM

wow just wow

How many 30 goal a season strikers are there in world football at any level?

Yet we expect a 19 year old laddie who was a gardener less than 18 months previously to score 30 goals in his first full season in the team

No only that but from a team that was at the start of the season an absolute shambles.

Some people need to seriously consider their expectation levels for our players.

So you don't think he could have added another 10 or 11 to his already impressive tally?

Cummings with the correct coaching will be a 30 goal a season striker.

He will mature into a better player but the guy asked what makes an out and out striker and the best one's take close to 1 in 3 or 4 chances.

Also Cummings was sitting top of the charts in Europe as the best Under 21 striker at one point last season I am not 100% sure on where he finished but he tailed off as the season wore on.

Expectation levels have quite rightly been tempered due to us being an "absolute shambles" but that shouldn't mean we aren't trying to improve and aim for the top. Otherwise what's the point? I am quite sure the coaching staff will have set all our players goals on where to improve this coming season.

Expectations can be limitations as well so I tend to look on possible improvements at every level instead. Our players need to do the same if they are to play in the premier league next season because all over the pitch we had our limits last year.

Platinum Scotty

14-08-2015, 09:41 AM

Guess not!

BSEJVT

14-08-2015, 10:42 AM

So you don't think he could have added another 10 or 11 to his already impressive tally?

Cummings with the correct coaching will be a 30 goal a season striker.

He will mature into a better player but the guy asked what makes an out and out striker and the best one's take close to 1 in 3 or 4 chances.

Also Cummings was sitting top of the charts in Europe as the best Under 21 striker at one point last season I am not 100% sure on where he finished but he tailed off as the season wore on.

Expectation levels have quite rightly been tempered due to us being an "absolute shambles" but that shouldn't mean we aren't trying to improve and aim for the top. Otherwise what's the point? I am quite sure the coaching staff will have set all our players goals on where to improve this coming season.

Expectations can be limitations as well so I tend to look on possible improvements at every level instead. Our players need to do the same if they are to play in the premier league next season because all over the pitch we had our limits last year.

You are confusing the issues

On the basis that the best strikers should "take 1 out of every 3 or 4 chances" they get then Messi and Ronaldo could potentially be scoring over 200 goals a season if they scored with everything they looked at.

Clearly that's a nonsense but the point is theoretically they could have.

Any striker that cant look back at the end of the season and think they could have tons more isn't getting into the proper positions, therefore there is no doubt he and every striker on the planet could have scored a good few more.

Conversely at this stage of his development he could have scored a good few less, like the rest of the divisions strikers.

We must want and expect every player to improve, but at the same time other teams all want their players to improve and he is more of a known force now so you would expect him to be more closely policed, making it harder for him to replicate let alone exceed last years haul.

I think its ridiculous for us to label him as a 30 goal a season striker, and to pile pressure on him as a result.

Some of the criticisms I have seen on this board of him as a player (not from you on this thread) are absolutely laughable.

Fact of the matter is that if he scores another 20 or 30 goals this season he will in all likelihood not be hear next.

J-C

14-08-2015, 10:55 AM

You are confusing the issues

On the basis that the best strikers should "take 1 out of every 3 or 4 chances" they get then Messi and Ronaldo could potentially be scoring over 200 goals a season if they scored with everything they looked at.

Clearly that's a nonsense but the point is theoretically they could have.

Any striker that cant look back at the end of the season and think they could have tons more isn't getting into the proper positions, therefore there is no doubt he and every striker on the planet could have scored a good few more.

Conversely at this stage of his development he could have scored a good few less, like the rest of the divisions strikers.

We must want and expect every player to improve, but at the same time other teams all want their players to improve and he is more of a known force now so you would expect him to be more closely policed, making it harder for him to replicate let alone exceed last years haul.

I think its ridiculous for us to label him as a 30 goal a season striker, and to pile pressure on him as a result.

Some of the criticisms I have seen on this board of him as a player (not from you on this thread) are absolutely laughable.

Fact of the matter is that if he scores another 20 or 30 goals this season he will in all likelihood not be hear next.

Our problem was not having options up front last season, we relied too heavily on Malonga and Cummings, yes they both scored a good few goals but both can be fairly inconsistent and their goal ratio could've been better. Also our system didn't really help our strikers at times playing so much through the middle, we needed natural width and pace and brought in Djedje and Boyle for this but for some reason Stubbs insisted withe the diamond instead of going 3 up top and using the pace in Djedje/Boyle.

Stubbs has tried to fix these problems by bringing in Keatings and Carmichael, one a good goalscorer in this league and the other a wide man who will create.

Hamish

14-08-2015, 10:58 AM

Guess not!

Underscore has said on the SA thread that in addition to McGeouch and Henderson to expect a defender to sign soon

Beefster

14-08-2015, 10:59 AM

Someone that has a chance conversion rate of around 1 in 3 or 4.

Cummings and Malonga were closer to 1 in 8 last year. Cummings may have scored twenty goals but with the chances we created it should have been at least 30.

Malonga is definitely more of a creative forward with fantastic ability than an opportunistic goal-scoring striker.

Keatings when fit certainly has the ability to score more goals and playing for a free-flowing creative football team he'll score more than he managed last time around.

We need Farid back fit also.

A striker would be great but if anyone can tell me of a clinical striker that's realistically available then I'd love to hear who he is??

I don't think you've got a clue what you're talking about. Ronaldo or Messi don't have a conversion rate of 1 in 3 or 4 but you expect Hibs to recruit someone who does.

https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/styles/article-inline-half/public/blogs/103195/2013/04/122303-120742.jpg?itok=En7wbwim

Unseen work

14-08-2015, 11:04 AM

We must be the only team in the world where a 19 year old scores 21 in his first full season and the fans ain't happy.

SHODAN

14-08-2015, 11:06 AM

We must be the only team in the world where a 19 year old scores 21 in his first full season and the fans ain't happy.

:top marks

scoopyboy

14-08-2015, 11:07 AM

We must be the only team in the world where a 19 year old scores 21 in his first full season and the fans ain't happy.

Anorak alert.

22 goals.

19 in the league, 1 in League Cup, 1 in Scottish Cup and 1 in play-offs.

steve75

14-08-2015, 11:07 AM

I actually think their conversion rates are pretty good. For me the biggest problem was the amount of times the ball was played across goal and Cummings and Malonga were hanging around at the edge of the box.

Keatings will put these types of chances away and hopefully Cummings will learn from him because I definitely think he has the potential to be that 25+ goal a season striker.

andrew70

14-08-2015, 11:10 AM

I don't think you've got a clue what you're talking about. Ronaldo or Messi don't have a conversion rate of 1 in 3 or 4 but you expect Hibs to recruit someone who does.

https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/styles/article-inline-half/public/blogs/103195/2013/04/122303-120742.jpg?itok=En7wbwim

Okay, fair enough, Ronaldo's was 1 in 5 (more to do with his love for audacious efforts) at end of last season but Messi's was 1 in 4. Messi also scores more goals from less shots than Ronaldo.

Cummings, especially, should be scoring more goals than he does.

I'll also say one other thing allowing us to be shot-shy has left us in this division. Hearts scored almost 1 in every 4.25 chances that's what we need to be aiming for if not better.

We need to score a lot more of chances this time around than last season. Cummings needs to use the last couple of season's experience to hit 25+ this season and he especially needs to stop wasting gilt-edged chances.

BoomtownHibees

14-08-2015, 11:12 AM

Okay, fair enough, Ronaldo's was 1 in 5 (more to do with his love for audacious efforts) at end of last season but Messi's was 1 in 4. Messi also scores more goals from less shots than Ronaldo.

Cummings, especially, should be scoring more goals than he does.

I'll also say one other thing allowing us to be shot-shy has left us in this division. Hearts scored almost 1 in every 4.25 chances that's what we need to be aiming for if not better.

We need to score a lot more of chances this time around than last season. Cummings needs to use the last couple of season's experience to hit 25+ this season and he especially needs to stop wasting gilt-edged chances.

Hearts as a "team" had that conversion rate, no individuals. Cummings scored enough goals for us, so did Malonga. We needed goals from other areas of the team.

To say the divisions top scorer didn't score enough is mental.

Hamish

14-08-2015, 11:16 AM

Just thinking that the last Henderson we got also came in on loan and played only 6 games.
.😎

GreenCastle

14-08-2015, 11:17 AM

We must be the only team in the world where a 19 year old scores 21 in his first full season and the fans ain't happy.

:greengrin:top marks

So true...

The only issue we have right now is we are expecting Malonga and Cummings to score majority of the goals!

Malinga is carrying an injury and Cummings being a young player will have good and bad games as natural with development.

We need others to become fit / sign to come on and help if either aren't fully firing.

Malinga and Cummings are decent players and totally different styles.

andrew70

14-08-2015, 11:21 AM

You are confusing the issues

On the basis that the best strikers should "take 1 out of every 3 or 4 chances" they get then Messi and Ronaldo could potentially be scoring over 200 goals a season if they scored with everything they looked at.

Clearly that's a nonsense but the point is theoretically they could have.

Any striker that cant look back at the end of the season and think they could have tons more isn't getting into the proper positions, therefore there is no doubt he and every striker on the planet could have scored a good few more.

Conversely at this stage of his development he could have scored a good few less, like the rest of the divisions strikers.

We must want and expect every player to improve, but at the same time other teams all want their players to improve and he is more of a known force now so you would expect him to be more closely policed, making it harder for him to replicate let alone exceed last years haul.

I think its ridiculous for us to label him as a 30 goal a season striker, and to pile pressure on him as a result.

Some of the criticisms I have seen on this board of him as a player (not from you on this thread) are absolutely laughable.

Fact of the matter is that if he scores another 20 or 30 goals this season he will in all likelihood not be hear next.

Sorry I missed this one when replying to someone else.

Unfortunately for JC he was thrust in to Butcher's team and expected to keep us up (bad management imo). He was then expected to get us back up last year especially after El Alagui's injury and I agree about the pressure aspect - which we (myself included) all need to keep at a minimum to avoid burnout etc of our younger players.

I honestly don't think its outwith his capabilities to be getting 30 goals this season if he's learned from last.

He may well leave if he claims thirty goals but he'll have earned his move, I'd rather that than he doesn't learn or improve further and we have him dodging away for us in three years time still making the mistakes and scoring the odd goal when he should be doing better.

There's nothing wrong from wanting/needing or expecting better from someone who has done alright so far, given his age and experience.

He seems a confident young lad on the football pitch so let's make sure we are getting the full use of him when he steps across that white line even if that means he leaves us for a bigger club.

iainm1875

14-08-2015, 11:22 AM

scoopyboy

14-08-2015, 11:25 AM

@BBCKheredine: As we said; @ScottAllan_ to Celtic. Completed by close of play today. Deals for D McGeouch & L Henderson to Hibs don't affect Allan transfer

I don't understand this tweet. Can anyone explain?

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I'm guessing that if there is a problem with either or both of the Celtic players then Celtic will pay more to get Scott allan, ie the Celtic players will not scupper Scott Allan's transfer.

JimBHibees

14-08-2015, 11:25 AM

@BBCKheredine: As we said; @ScottAllan_ to Celtic. Completed by close of play today. Deals for D McGeouch & L Henderson to Hibs don't affect Allan transfer

I don't understand this tweet. Can anyone explain?

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Sounds like Allan today the others later which aint that great as was hoping both could have played tomorrow if indeed they were coming.

andrew70

14-08-2015, 11:26 AM

Hearts as a "team" had that conversion rate, no individuals. Cummings scored enough goals for us, so did Malonga. We needed goals from other areas of the team.

To say the divisions top scorer didn't score enough is mental.

Fair enough point.

The division's top scorer also wasted several good chances as did Malonga. We need to be more clinical this season all over the park.

The strikers job is to score goals though had they scored these wasted chances we may have been in the premier league instead of being in the Championship again.

That's all and I am sure it's been told to them after each game and before the start of this season.

J-C

14-08-2015, 11:27 AM

Sounds like Allan today the others later which aint that great as was hoping both could have played tomorrow if indeed they were coming.

McGeouch will not be a problem if it's a late signing, he'll know us very well already, Henderson may be too late to be added to any squad tomorrow.

iainm1875

14-08-2015, 11:31 AM

Aldo

14-08-2015, 11:31 AM

Fair enough point. The division's top scorer also wasted several good chances as did Malonga. We need to be more clinical this season all over the park. The strikers job is to score goals though had they scored these wasted chances we may have been in the premier league instead of being in the Championship again. That's all and I am sure it's been told to them after each game and before the start of this season.

I am hoping that Keatings will provide stuff completion for them both and get amongst the goals once fit.

I think if given the chance (and if fit) that he'll be giving Jason a run for his money in the top goal scoring stakes.

CyberSauzee

14-08-2015, 11:40 AM

If Scott Allen signs for Celtic as indicated, will we being seeing any Sevco muppets outside the Big Hoose chanting his name tonight? :na na:

If he does go well done to Hibs for not selling to a rival. Player wants to go so if we get a decent fee then hopefully AS can spend wisely.

andrew70

14-08-2015, 11:40 AM

I am hoping that Keatings will provide stuff completion for them both and get amongst the goals once fit.

I think if given the chance (and if fit) that he'll be giving Jason a run for his money in the top goal scoring stakes.

Definitely both Keatings and El Alagui, when fit, will take the chances that this team will undoubtedly create.

Thus take some of the 'pressure' off the other two.

Aldo

14-08-2015, 11:46 AM

Definitely both Keatings and El Alagui, when fit, will take the chances that this team will undoubtedly create. Thus take some of the 'pressure' off the other two.

Yip just need to get them fit.

Farid's performance and goal in the win v the Yams at ER showed what he is capable of.
Mad others have alluded Jason is still only 19 but he does get himself into some great positions but lacks that wee bit of composure at times.

We have been unlucky with injuries but I'm going to remain positive and say that Jason will be up there again this season but will defo need to be on his game.

Beefster

14-08-2015, 11:54 AM

@BBCKheredine: As we said; @ScottAllan_ to Celtic. Completed by close of play today. Deals for D McGeouch & L Henderson to Hibs don't affect Allan transfer

Surely if either of these guys fail the medical or if McGeough doesn't agree terms then the Allan deal is off?!?!?!

scoopyboy already explained it for you...

I'm guessing that if there is a problem with either or both of the Celtic players then Celtic will pay more to get Scott allan, ie the Celtic players will not scupper Scott Allan's transfer.

CyberSauzee

14-08-2015, 11:58 AM

Back to Jamie Insall. As I've previously stated players from the level Insall's at - Northern Prem being one of 3 divisions that feed into the National (formerly the Conference) League North & South - are more than capable of playing at the level Hibs are currently at. Not all of them, but definitely some.

By way of example, Enfield Town of the Ryman Premier have signed a player who last season was at Falkirk - http://www.falkirkfc.co.uk/player/ollie-durojaiye/

He fell out of favour by looking at his lack of games, although one was against Hibs in August last year, Falkirk winning 1-0 at ER: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28816657

I've seen him start one game and on as a sub in another and he's put in good performances so far.

Point is, as others have said, there is a wealth of talent at lower league levels that will not look out of place several steps higher.

iainm1875

14-08-2015, 11:59 AM

scoopyboy already explained it for you...

Not quite the reassurance I was looking for.

My guess is that this is where the £600k figure came from. With the other to deals totalling £300k. £150k development fee for Dylan & £150k cost of loan for Henderson.

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scoopyboy

14-08-2015, 12:06 PM

Not quite the reassurance I was looking for.

My guess is that this is where the £600k figure came from. With the other to deals totalling £300k. £150k development fee for Dylan & £150k cost of loan for Henderson.

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Not that it will help you much but Dylan's fee will not be a development fee as he is under contract with Celtic until the end of this season. It will be a transfer fee.

Development fees are only for players out of contract.

Jack

14-08-2015, 12:07 PM

Jason C had his 20th birthday a couple of weeks ago.

Ronniekirk

14-08-2015, 12:13 PM

Not quite the reassurance I was looking for.

My guess is that this is where the £600k figure came from. With the other to deals totalling £300k. £150k development fee for Dylan & £150k cost of loan for Henderson.

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We can speculate all we want about values and details but bottom line tomorrow we won't have Allan in the Team and it's unlikely that the two Celtic Players if signed would be match fit for tomorrow's game so Dylan off the Bench might be best we can expect .

It will certainly give the players who said the Scott Allan situation was affecting them an opportunity to redeem themselves .
Wonder if Stubbs will drop anyone following his threat after the Dumbarton game

Looking forward to tomorrow's game no matter who we have on the Pitch

Northern Hibby

14-08-2015, 12:15 PM

Iggy Pope

14-08-2015, 01:40 PM

Just thinking that the last Henderson we got also came in on loan and played only 6 games.
.

He was a Hun though :greengrin

ancient hibee

14-08-2015, 01:53 PM

We can speculate all we want about values and details but bottom line tomorrow we won't have Allan in the Team and it's unlikely that the two Celtic Players if signed would be match fit for tomorrow's game so Dylan off the Bench might be best we can expect .

It will certainly give the players who said the Scott Allan situation was affecting them an opportunity to redeem themselves .
Wonder if Stubbs will drop anyone following his threat after the Dumbarton game

Looking forward to tomorrow's game no matter who we have on the Pitch

Thought the players all said the Scott Allan situation was NOT affecting them?We want them to remove the digit not think deep thoughts.

brog

14-08-2015, 02:47 PM

Hearts as a "team" had that conversion rate, no individuals. Cummings scored enough goals for us, so did Malonga. We needed goals from other areas of the team.

To say the divisions top scorer didn't score enough is mental.

:thumbsup:

Serious question, whats the source of these stats? I checked OPTA & couldn't see anything about goals to chances ratios. How do you define a chance? when Oxley scored was it a chance?
separately a week or so ago I saw Lewandowski miss an open goal from 2 yards, obviously not Hibs class! :wink:

portyhibernian

14-08-2015, 04:02 PM

Not seen it mentioned yet, Agent Scotland (I know their info can be hit or miss) tweeted McGeouch wants 2 year deal, Hibs want him on a 4 year deal, hence the delay.

Ronniekirk

14-08-2015, 04:10 PM

Not seen it mentioned yet, Agent Scotland (I know their info can be hit or miss) tweeted McGeouch wants 2 year deal, Hibs want him on a 4 year deal, hence the delay.

I know we got McGinn on a four year deal and don't know details of that but if we want him then if two years is best we can get then seems fair enough as that's the length of most of the other first team players contracts , but clearly we want to make sure if he develops then we get a fee for him if he moves on so maybe that's why we want longer deal
Overall it's all slowed down from the breakneck speed of last night and this morning and activity on various threads

portyhibernian

14-08-2015, 04:13 PM

I know we got McGinn on a four year deal and don't know details of that but if we want him then if two years is best we can get then seems fair enough as that's the length of most of the other first team players contracts , but clearly we want to make sure if he develops then we get a fee for him if he moves on so maybe that's why we want longer deal
Overall it's all slowed down from the breakneck speed of last night and this morning and activity on various threads

Yep, don't want another Allan situation down the line where they have two good seasons and we're forced into selling for peanuts

Iain G

14-08-2015, 05:19 PM

Two good very good midfielders coming in, unhappy player out of our hair and enough cash for Stubbs to tighten that defence up sounds like a good deal for us!

Famous Fiver

14-08-2015, 05:58 PM

Now that we appear to have a few bob coming in how about El Bakhtaoui from Dunfermline?

Could do a lot worse.

BOB MARLEYS DUG

14-08-2015, 06:04 PM

Now that we appear to have a few bob coming in how about El Bakhtaoui from Dunfermline?

Could do a lot worse.

Been saying for a while we should look at him but with the the lads we getting from Sellick and the midfilders we already have, there is probably no point just now.

SHODAN

14-08-2015, 06:05 PM

Now that we appear to have a few bob coming in how about El Bakhtaoui from Dunfermline?

Could do a lot worse.

Good shout. Do we need another striker though?

Aldo

14-08-2015, 06:09 PM

Good shout. Do we need another striker though?

Not sure we do. It's goals from the middle of the park that were the issue last season.

Hopefully that had been addressed.

I think a CH or a versatile defender is what's needed.

BOB MARLEYS DUG

14-08-2015, 06:09 PM

Good shout. Do we need another striker though?

I always thought he was an attacking midfielder? Could be wrong though.

madhatter

14-08-2015, 06:11 PM

Why has nothing been confirmed yet? Seems to be drawn out quite a bit especially with the game on the weekend. Unwelcome distraction at this stage of the week and isn't appearing to be quickly resolved.

thebausburst

14-08-2015, 06:45 PM

1 year loan deal Liam Henderson complete, he has been speaking to fans outside ER.

:flag:

Nevi_SOL

14-08-2015, 07:01 PM

1 year loan deal Liam Henderson complete, he has been speaking to fans outside ER.

:flag:

Liam Henderson wie @Jck_Dalgleish after signing on for a season on loan 👍👏 welcome to @HibsOfficial san #GGTTH http://t.co/rKVtrLToIi

Found this picture on twitter

truehibernian

14-08-2015, 07:06 PM

......as I posted back on 26th April (Henderson) :cb:greengrin

hibees 7062

14-08-2015, 07:18 PM

Did the hertz get any money for Henderson ?

.Sean.

14-08-2015, 07:19 PM

Seen a photo of Henderson outside ER so safe to say that's a done deal!

cmcd

14-08-2015, 07:21 PM

Good shout. Do we need another striker though?

Looked a player

Caversham Green

14-08-2015, 07:23 PM

I'm guessing that if there is a problem with either or both of the Celtic players then Celtic will pay more to get Scott allan, ie the Celtic players will not scupper Scott Allan's transfer.

I read somewhere that Celtc were valuing McGeouch at £460k but would waive the fee for Hibs only. The way I interpret that is that we were free to negotiate terms with him, but if we couldn't come to an agreement, tough luck - no extra money for Allan. Does that sound likely?

seanshow

14-08-2015, 07:26 PM

DM 3 year deal with option for a 4th.

Sauce - Talk sport transfer round up a couple of hours ago.

CRAZYHIBBY

15-08-2015, 08:33 AM

How come mcgoosh hasn't been announced yet? ......is he even coming

stokesmessiah

15-08-2015, 08:34 AM

How come mcgoosh hasn't been announced yet? ......is he even coming

I am beginning to wonder!!?

Aldo

15-08-2015, 08:35 AM

How come mcgoosh hasn't been announced yet? ......is he even coming

He is. By all accounts in just the finer details that need ironed out (they ma of even done this) prior to him being announced.

Tbh I'm surprised they didn't push but through and announce it this morning as it may add numbers to the gate.

I expect him to be a very big player for us this season.

Aldo

15-08-2015, 08:37 AM

Ashley Cole anyone. Had the remaining year of his Roma contract terminated!! :-)

Bostonhibby

15-08-2015, 08:47 AM

Ashley Cole anyone. Had the remaining year of his Roma contract terminated!! :-)

He's more of a yam class type of a guy.

Aldo

15-08-2015, 08:48 AM

He's more of a yam class type of a guy.

34 but would be quality

Bostonhibby

15-08-2015, 08:50 AM

34 but would be quality

Yam class poster of self portraits though :wink:

Aldo

15-08-2015, 08:51 AM

Yam class poster of self portraits though :wink:

Ah yes! Forget about that.... It's a big NO from me then.

Doh moment from the Aldo man. I blame only having 2 cuppas this morning!

Bostonhibby

15-08-2015, 08:57 AM

Ah yes! Forget about that.... It's a big NO from me then.

Doh moment from the Aldo man. I blame only having 2 cuppas this morning!

:greengrin It's just that there's a lot of this wanting to play for their boyhood heroes crap about at the moment and he seems to have yam tendencies so I imagine the EEN would be all over this if he was Edinburgh bound!

Aldo

15-08-2015, 08:58 AM

:greengrin It's just that there's a lot of this wanting to play for their boyhood heroes crap about at the moment and he seems to have yam tendencies so I imagine the EEN would be all over this if he was Edinburgh bound!

Indeed they would. Would fit in well!

scoopyboy

15-08-2015, 08:59 AM

How come mcgoosh hasn't been announced yet? ......is he even coming

The players think he is coming.

Ronniekirk

15-08-2015, 09:07 AM

How come mcgoosh hasn't been announced yet? ......is he even coming

He will be announced as the second coming ,in this Scott Allan Saga .He is just driving a hard bargain as he knows Stubbs wants him , and even more so now Scotty is away to Paradise . so he can play hard ball and get best deal that suits him . Can't imagine Stubbs agreeing to the other moves if he thought McGeoch deal was not a done deal bar the final details of the contract . That's why McCabe obviously wasn't offered a deal possibly as These two signings were coming to fruition .

Lago

15-08-2015, 09:30 AM

The players think he is coming.
Well I hope their right, but I think you can understand fan's concern as it drags on. Also what has happened to the signing of Insall ( spelling?) as it was expected by now according to many.

BOB MARLEYS DUG

15-08-2015, 06:11 PM

What happened to the Andy Webster rumours :greengrin

keep the faith

15-08-2015, 06:16 PM

Good shout. Do we need another striker though?

I think we desperately need a striker. Molonga drives me nuts and Farid is always injured.

BOB MARLEYS DUG

15-08-2015, 06:17 PM

If we are to spend some of the cash I'd love to go for the lad O'halloran from St Johnstone. Really good player IMO.

madhatter

15-08-2015, 07:11 PM

I'd like to see us scout abroad a bit better to be honest. There are so many decent players that are free agents but we never seem to go looking. Obviously I'd like a few more like McGinn snapped up as well - youth players with high potential.

Ronniekirk

16-08-2015, 05:56 PM

What happened to the Andy Webster rumours :greengrin

No idea but St Mirren are actively trying to sign several players and he is on their wish list

eastmainsmsh

16-08-2015, 06:13 PM

A fit Michael chopra would be a decent addition to the squad

J-C

16-08-2015, 06:15 PM

What happened to the Andy Webster rumours :greengrin

Just that, a rumour I think.

AlbertK86

16-08-2015, 07:08 PM

Anybody any more on the boy Stephen Kingsley - rumoured a week or two ago

Lago

16-08-2015, 07:57 PM

Anything on the boy Insall?

bill the hibby

16-08-2015, 08:29 PM

I heard rumours yesterday of a signing for the dev team, young striker who's banging in the goals for Spartans. Supposedly been to watch him a few times.

bill the hibby

17-08-2015, 10:41 AM

Kenny Millar saying on Twitter he thinks mcgeouch will sign and also says he thinks we will sign another defender and another striker

itslegaltender

17-08-2015, 10:43 AM

Just that, a rumour I think.

Webster to St Mirren now apparently.

hibees 7062

17-08-2015, 12:16 PM

Joe Bryan on loan according to FB

andrew70

17-08-2015, 12:59 PM

Joe Bryan on loan according to FB

That would be a terrific signing. Extremely highly rated and was quality for Bristol City last season IIRC.

Alas it's on FB though so can't see it.

S4uzee

17-08-2015, 01:14 PM

That would be a terrific signing. Extremely highly rated and was quality for Bristol City last season IIRC.

Alas it's on FB though so can't see it.
Maybe there is truth in it, he seems injured going by this :greengrin

http://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/bryan-out-of-luton-tie-2608663.aspx

JimBHibees

17-08-2015, 01:15 PM

Joe Bryan on loan according to FB

Is that realistic? He is a hot prospect for Bristol City and apparently Everton and Southampton were looking at him at the en of last season. Suppose possibility Everton sign him and loan him to us however Baines is injured and Garbutt out on loan so IMO not likely.

S4uzee

17-08-2015, 01:17 PM

Is that realistic? He is a hot prospect for Bristol City and apparently Everton and Southampton were looking at him at the en of last season. Suppose possibility Everton sign him and loan him to us however Baines is injured and Garbutt out on loan so IMO not likely.

Just checked, he played for them at the weekend. No chance

andrew70

17-08-2015, 01:26 PM

Maybe there is truth in it, he seems injured going by this :greengrin

http://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/bryan-out-of-luton-tie-2608663.aspx

Haha, every chance then.

Is that realistic? He is a hot prospect for Bristol City and apparently Everton and Southampton were looking at him at the en of last season. Suppose possibility Everton sign him and loan him to us however Baines is injured and Garbutt out on loan so IMO not likely.

I actually thought that he'd signed for Everton in the summer. Obviously not though.

Just checked, he played for them at the weekend. No chance

Makes you wonder why they bother making up such nonsense rumours? If we are looking at a LB we should get Tierney on loan from Celtic.

S4uzee

17-08-2015, 01:30 PM

Haha, every chance then.

I actually thought that he'd signed for Everton in the summer. Obviously not though.

Makes you wonder why they bother making up such nonsense rumours? If we are looking at a LB we should get Tierney on loan from Celtic.

:agree: utterly pointless. Surely people don't believe that Hibs would sign a championship full back on loan who is currently getting a game

GreenCastle

17-08-2015, 02:28 PM

I heard rumours yesterday of a signing for the dev team, young striker who's banging in the goals for Spartans. Supposedly been to watch him a few times.

Aaron Murrell ? Seems to be scoring for fun for Spartans. Heard a few other clubs also after him ?

(https://twitter.com/aaronmurrell97)

bill the hibby

17-08-2015, 03:11 PM

Aaron Murrell ? Seems to be scoring for fun for Spartans. Heard a few other clubs also after him ?

(https://twitter.com/aaronmurrell97)

That could've been the name, 17 year old striker I believe, we had a final assessment of him on Saturday where the chief scout was there to watch so see how that pans out

GreenArmyyy!

17-08-2015, 03:26 PM

Webster to St Mirren now apparently.

Good. Would rather have a table leg at the back than Webster.

CallumLaidlaw

17-08-2015, 03:37 PM

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/17/2a2abb3ecc936c99243b18afed1948bb.jpg

Baldy Foghorn

17-08-2015, 03:44 PM

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/17/2a2abb3ecc936c99243b18afed1948bb.jpg

Nice work C.....:aok:

Booked4Being-Ugly

17-08-2015, 03:44 PM

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/non-league/2015/08/11/stourbridges-jamie-insall-on-verge-of-dream-move/

brog

17-08-2015, 03:47 PM

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/17/2a2abb3ecc936c99243b18afed1948bb.jpg

Sounds promising! I like this, guaranteed a hungry footballer desperate to prove himself. If he turns out anything like a Kevin Phillips or Jamie Vardy we've had a result!

God Petrie

17-08-2015, 04:11 PM

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/non-league/2015/08/11/stourbridges-jamie-insall-on-verge-of-dream-move/

Good article. Scottish giants

Hibs History

17-08-2015, 04:21 PM

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/...of-dream-move/ (http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/non-league/2015/08/11/stourbridges-jamie-insall-on-verge-of-dream-move/) Good article. Scottish giants

Agreed! Much better than the BS we have had to put up with from The Sun and Daily Record

CRAZYHIBBY

17-08-2015, 04:25 PM

Is up the hibs a typo or has insall not got a deal and had an emotional goodbye at hibs?

bill the hibby

17-08-2015, 04:27 PM

Callum melynk isn't a player at hibs as far as I'm aware so I imagine it's a mate of his wishing him all the best up here

cabbageandribs1875

17-08-2015, 04:27 PM

Is up the hibs a typo or has insall not got a deal and had an emotional goodbye at hibs?

an emotional goodbye after just over a week or more ? i've heard of holiday romances but c'mon eh

bill the hibby

17-08-2015, 04:31 PM

an emotional goodbye after just over a week or more ? i've heard of holiday romances but c'mon eh

Zero prisoners taken with that post :greengrin

Unseen work

17-08-2015, 04:49 PM

His mate also posted saying "can't believe one of my mates is now a PRO footballer.

So I'm guessing it's done

portycabbage

17-08-2015, 07:37 PM

His mate also posted saying "can't believe one of my mates is now a PRO footballer.

So I'm guessing it's done

Either that or the boy has another mate who's become a footballing prostitute.:wink:

Off the bar

17-08-2015, 07:42 PM

Either that or the boy has another mate who's become a footballing prostitute.:wink:

He's pals with Scott Allan?

portycabbage

17-08-2015, 08:38 PM

He's pals with Scott Allan?

He's a footballing protestant :greengrin

erin go bragh

18-08-2015, 04:22 PM

Fb page( I know ! ) saying Mcgeuch and Instal to be announced within 48 hours

GGTTH

Unseen work

18-08-2015, 05:04 PM

Fb page( I know ! ) saying Mcgeuch and Instal to be announced within 48 hours

GGTTH

People have been saying this for about a week.

thebausburst

18-08-2015, 05:05 PM

Fb page( I know ! ) saying Mcgeuch and Instal to be announced within 48 hours

GGTTH

Garbage, McGeuch photographed training today at Celtic with Scott Allan!

bill the hibby

18-08-2015, 05:10 PM

Garbage, McGeuch photographed training today at Celtic with Scott Allan!

That means nothing really

bingo70

18-08-2015, 05:13 PM

That means nothing really

It does really though. Many were saying he's signed, he's not.

That photo is the only conclusive post on this thread.

thebausburst

18-08-2015, 05:16 PM

That means nothing really

Doh!

CRAZYHIBBY

18-08-2015, 05:18 PM

Im hearing the jurys still out on insall and mcgoosh isnt coming

Unseen work

18-08-2015, 05:20 PM

What deal did we actually get for Allan then? How much money? And mcgeoch hasn't been announced yet so looking less and less likely.

CRAZYHIBBY

18-08-2015, 05:31 PM

We should sign the irish guy from game of war. ...he can't play football but he's gruff and got a beard

bill the hibby

18-08-2015, 05:38 PM

It does really though. Many were saying he's signed, he's not.

That photo is the only conclusive post on this thread.

And many others have said he is coming but not signed yet...ive never known a player to train with a team before they've signed, just because he hasn't signed yet doesn't mean he isn't coming

scoopyboy

18-08-2015, 05:39 PM

And many others have said he is coming but not signed yet...ive never known a player to train with a team before they've signed, just because he hasn't signed yet doesn't mean he isn't coming

Yes at last, we have a winner.

stevie-bee

18-08-2015, 05:45 PM

Could have been in to say goodbye to his old team mates

mcfly

18-08-2015, 05:53 PM

Im hearing the jurys still out on insall and mcgoosh isnt coming

Hearing from whom?

CRAZYHIBBY

18-08-2015, 06:08 PM

Hearing from whom?

Guy at work. ..his sister works at East mains apparantly

bill the hibby

18-08-2015, 06:11 PM

Guy at work. ..his sister works at East mains apparantly

Suppose the word 'apparently' is pretty important in all of this, every story regarding this transfer is 'apparently'

brog

18-08-2015, 06:16 PM

Guy at work. ..his sister works at East mains apparantly

Jeez, whatever happened to really reliable sources like the Fishman? !! :wink:

Beefster

18-08-2015, 07:14 PM

Guy at work. ..his sister works at East mains apparantly

The 'apparently' suggest that you think he might be a lying barsteward?

ancient hibee

18-08-2015, 08:19 PM

Jeez, whatever happened to really reliable sources like the Fishman? !! :wink:

He's just a p(r)awn in the game of transfer news.

bill the hibby

18-08-2015, 08:39 PM

McAllister should definitely raise a few tails easter road way after tonight...anyone seen his record? 83 goals in 132 games.

Ronniekirk

19-08-2015, 08:21 AM

To get back to Transfer Rumours Daiily Record when Reporting a piece on Liam hendersons Grandad being a Hibby sneaked in at the end Dylan Easton Training with us to try and win a Contract Think it was already mentioned on this Thread or another one . general Feeling seemed to be not too favourable if I recall correctly

SlickShoes

19-08-2015, 08:48 AM

We should sign the irish guy from game of war. ...he can't play football but he's gruff and got a beard

He can play football though https://youtu.be/oX4_Fp8GGr4?t=2m12s get him signed up, sure hibs can out do is UFC pay packet.

GreenOnions

19-08-2015, 08:50 AM

Im hearing the jurys still out on insall and mcgoosh isnt coming

"send three-and-fourpence - we're going to a dance"

Jim44

19-08-2015, 08:55 AM

"send three-and-fourpence - we're going to a dance"

:greengrin The old ones are the still the best.

HUTCHYHIBBY

19-08-2015, 09:10 AM

How much extra dough will we get from Celtic if Dylan doesn't sign for us? this whole episode is getting right on my bosoms.

Jim44

19-08-2015, 09:25 AM

How much extra dough will we get from Celtic if Dylan doesn't sign for us? this whole episode is getting right on my bosoms.

My sister's bin man says that it would be easier to guess the length of a piece of string ........... apparently.

NORTHERNHIBBY

19-08-2015, 09:35 AM

My sister's bin man says that it would be easier to guess the length of a piece of string ........... apparently.

Is that actually garbage then??

Onion

19-08-2015, 09:39 AM

How much extra dough will we get from Celtic if Dylan doesn't sign for us? this whole episode is getting right on my bosoms.

If it was decent money, I'd expect Hibs would be using this in their negs with McGoosh. Good player but not worth paying a lot of money for.

southern hibby

19-08-2015, 09:54 AM

Would love to say I'm ITK, but I've got hairy balls not crystal.

However if he does come then if it takes a week to two I'm really not too concerned as I want the deal to be the Best For Hibs rather than just rushing into deals like we have done for numerous years now.

GGTTH

Franck Stanton

19-08-2015, 01:53 PM

Alex Trager

19-08-2015, 04:43 PM

Lago

19-08-2015, 06:09 PM

IF he is signing I just wish he would get on with it sooner rather than later, it is just distracting from the fact we NEED to shore up a leaky defence, could do with a big, no nonsense c/h and a left back more than another midfielder. Just my opinion.
Agree from Scott Allen on our transfer situation has turned into a bit of a farce.

Waxy

19-08-2015, 06:14 PM

Dunno about anyone else but i'll be happy when the transfer window shuts.Think thats a first.

DH1875

19-08-2015, 06:19 PM

Dunno about anyone else but i'll be happy when the transfer window shuts.Think thats a first.

Dunno about that. If the window were to close tomorrow and we were finished in the market, it wouldn't be very good.

Brightside

19-08-2015, 06:34 PM

Agree from Scott Allen on our transfer situation has turned into a bit of a farce.

aye so it has. its ok we are in for Pedro now.

Jim44

19-08-2015, 06:39 PM

Dunno about that. If the window were to close tomorrow and we were finished in the market, it wouldn't be very good.

Very patiently put.

3pm

19-08-2015, 06:40 PM

aye so it has. its ok we are in for Pedro now.

Permanent or loan?

Waxy

19-08-2015, 06:42 PM

Dunno about that. If the window were to close tomorrow and we were finished in the market, it wouldn't be very good.yes i know what you mean, but this window seems to have caused a fair bit stress.

tamig

19-08-2015, 06:50 PM

aye so it has. its ok we are in for Pedro now.

De Gea was lined up too but Stubbs cooled his interest after the Ox's improved performance at the weekend.

Beefster

19-08-2015, 06:54 PM

IF he is signing I just wish he would get on with it sooner rather than later, it is just distracting from the fact we NEED to shore up a leaky defence, could do with a big, no nonsense c/h and a left back more than another midfielder. Just my opinion.

Given the scouting and coaching staff are unlikely to be involved in any negotiations, I doubt any pursuit of McGeouch is having an impact on scouting of any other players.

Jim44

19-08-2015, 06:56 PM

yes i know what you mean, but this window seems to have caused a fair bit stress.

We started the window well and have unfortunately levelled off with the disappointing Allan fiasco with Sevco and an unknown outcome with his sale to Celtic. We've got to trust Stubbs to raise the game a bit before the window ends but I fear we are meeting Sevco at the weekend at a lower ebb than we expected.

Brooster

19-08-2015, 07:13 PM

Agree from Scott Allen on our transfer situation has turned into a bit of a farce.

Please explain why our transfer situation has turned into a farce since Friday?

Onceinawhile

19-08-2015, 07:19 PM

Please explain why our transfer situation has turned into a farce since Friday?

It's the sky sports/24 hour news phenomenon, people have no patience, if Dylan is coming, it should be announced NOW!

Not helped by people claiming it's done (when it clearly isn't) and others assuming they are correct and Hibs are sitting on it for some reason.

Brooster

19-08-2015, 07:28 PM

It's the sky sports/24 hour news phenomenon, people have no patience, if Dylan is coming, it should be announced NOW!

Not helped by people claiming it's done (when it clearly isn't) and others assuming they are correct and Hibs are sitting on it for some reason.

I agree. Three working days have passed since we sold SA and all we have done is sign one of the best young talents in Britain.....absolute shambles.

silverhibee

19-08-2015, 07:44 PM

Permanent or loan?

He's signed, :wink: just holding it off announcing it. :greengrin

Lago

19-08-2015, 07:46 PM

aye so it has. its ok we are in for Pedro now.
Great news, will he be announced along with Dylan?:aok:

mike1875

19-08-2015, 09:58 PM

rumour was dead a while ago but Filip Kiss has joined Haugesund in Norway on loan for the year

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33997921

GreenArmyyy!

19-08-2015, 10:46 PM

I agree. Three working days have passed since we sold SA and all we have done is sign one of the best young talents in Britain.....absolute shambles.

Easy now, Henderson has a long way to go before getting that kind of title.

Ozyhibby

19-08-2015, 11:37 PM

rumour was dead a while ago but Filip Kiss has joined Haugesund in Norway on loan for the year

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33997921

Their stadium only holds 8000 so I doubt he is going there for the money. Could be we were never interested.

DH1875

20-08-2015, 07:49 AM

Their stadium only holds 8000 so I doubt he is going there for the money. Could be we were never interested.

What money? He's on loan so will still be picking his wages up from Cardiff.

nellio

20-08-2015, 10:00 AM

Ozyhibby

20-08-2015, 10:25 AM

What money? He's on loan so will still be picking his wages up from Cardiff.

I'm sure his new club are not getting him for free?

J-C

20-08-2015, 10:29 AM

I'm sure his new club are not getting him for free?

They'll pay what they can afford and the rest will be paid by his parent club, generally how most loans work, do you think we were paying all of McGeouch's wages last year? I don't think s, we couldn't afford his £4K a week wage or whatever it was.

J-C

20-08-2015, 10:30 AM

I commented on this on the Cardiff City forum. Kiss is unwanted by Cardiff along with a few other players so it is likley they are playing his wages. Not sure what happened here, we swiftly moved on and signed Bartley instead.

Unwanted or not he has a contract, if Cardiff do not want him they'll have to pay up the remainder of his contract, or pay money towards his wage to make up the shortfall.

patch1875

20-08-2015, 11:25 AM

I would have thought the fact that the Greggs on Tranent High Street has been done up we would attracting some quality signings.

bill the hibby

20-08-2015, 11:26 AM

Been very quiet this week

green.and.white

20-08-2015, 12:16 PM

Apparently Keith Watson has signed for St Mirren

Lago

20-08-2015, 12:18 PM

Been very quiet this week
Thats how time passes.

gegs70

20-08-2015, 12:23 PM

I thought Alan Stubbs was looking for defensive cover and perhaps a forward. Is he still interested in Insall or has interest cooled? Not much has been said about Farids injury or how long he will be out for?

SaulGoodman

20-08-2015, 12:25 PM

Apparently Keith Watson has signed for St Mirren

Webster too.

Two players people were quick enough to say they didn't want. We'll see what they say when the players sign for someone else.

Onceinawhile

20-08-2015, 12:26 PM

I thought Alan Stubbs was looking for defensive cover and perhaps a forward. Is he still interested in Insall or has interest cooled? Not much has been said about Fabrics injury or how long he will be out for?

Not sure if fabrics is Farid or Forster but Jordan is back in training and Farid will be first week of September.

gegs70

20-08-2015, 12:28 PM

Not sure if fabrics is Farid or Forster but Jordan is back in training and Farid will be first week of September.

Sorry bloody phone! Fared....

Newcastlehibby

20-08-2015, 12:34 PM

Sorry bloody phone! Fared....

Nearly. :greengrin

Viva_Palmeiras

20-08-2015, 12:39 PM

Nearly. :greengrin

Predictive text is pints.

SaulGoodman

20-08-2015, 12:40 PM

Predictive text is pints.

I agree. Duck that.

flash

20-08-2015, 01:28 PM

I don't think McGeouch is coming. I ain't even sure he was even close to coming. I reckon he will be off down south.

HUTCHYHIBBY

20-08-2015, 01:36 PM

I don't think McGeouch is coming. I ain't even sure he was even close to coming. I reckon he will be off down south.

I wish they would just get it sorted, time is getting tight to get an alternative or target for other positions in.

flash

20-08-2015, 01:39 PM

I wish they would just get it sorted, time is getting tight to get an alternative or target for other positions in.

I think Hibs know he ain't coming and are working on other things.

eastmainsmsh

20-08-2015, 01:51 PM

I don't think McGeouch is coming. I ain't even sure he was even close to coming. I reckon he will be off down south.

Sheff United were interested

flash

20-08-2015, 01:57 PM

Sheff United were interested

Makes sense. He is on a decent wage and I think Henderson was instead of not as well as.

Cod Boy

20-08-2015, 01:58 PM

Are we looking at a last day of the window to sign players

SteveHFC

20-08-2015, 01:59 PM

Are we looking at a last day of the window to sign players
Looks like it. Good enough for us gif boys :hyper

scoopyboy

20-08-2015, 02:42 PM

Makes sense. He is on a decent wage and I think Henderson was instead of not as well as.

Negotiations have been ongoing with McGeouch well after Liam Henderson arrived.

However I agree with others that if isn't committed to the cause then we should forget him and move on.

Greenworld

20-08-2015, 03:01 PM

Underscore do you have any updates

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Brightside

20-08-2015, 03:14 PM

Underscore do you have any updates

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Nothing more than Scoops. I was told it was a done deal but the longer it goes on perhaps something else has happened.

Jim44

20-08-2015, 03:14 PM

If McGeouch is off the radar, is it reasonable to hope that Stubbs has all the money from the sale of SA, plus some sort of compensatory payment from Celtic, to use for his player budget? This payment was something suggested, I think, by some of the media and latched on to by some on here, but mention of it seems to have gone all quiet. As somebody says, time is flying by and I would hope that Stubbs gets the opportunity to attract a couple of useful players and not have to wait till the eleventh hour to pick up scraps.