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flash
07-07-2015, 12:24 PM
Still think Celtic are coming for him with Dylan as a sweetener.
SteveHFC
07-07-2015, 12:38 PM
Still think Celtic are coming for him with Dylan as a sweetener.
£500K for Allan with McGeouch and Henderson coming here would do me.
Ozyhibby
07-07-2015, 12:42 PM
Still think Celtic are coming for him with Dylan as a sweetener.
Dylan is nowhere near the class of Allan. I don't think Hibs can afford to sell Allan. He will be the best player in the Championship next season and could very well be the difference between 1st and 2nd. Failure to get promoted will cost us a lot more than we would receive in any transfer fee.
Selling Allan would be a massive mistake and signal our acceptance of first division football. I don't believe we would be so stupid after the work that been put in to try and convince the fans that sporting ambition will come first from now on.
Ozyhibby
07-07-2015, 12:44 PM
£500K for Allan with McGeouch and Henderson coming here would do me.
And a third year in the championship thrown in. Barry. :-)
Not In The Know
07-07-2015, 12:54 PM
lets just say Allan is worth £1 million. if celtic offer £500,000 plus McGeouch and Henderson then obviously that makes them worth £250,000 each. Which quite frankly they are not!
Nutmegged
07-07-2015, 01:16 PM
There s absolutely no way Celtic would let Liam Henderson go, he's the best player they've produced since Aiden McGeady IMO, a real talent, they may allow him to go out on loan and I'd snap their hand off for him but there is absolutely zero chance they'd let him leave permanently
ManBearPig
07-07-2015, 01:25 PM
lets just say Allan is worth £1 million. if celtic offer £500,000 plus McGeouch and Henderson then obviously that makes them worth £250,000 each. Which quite frankly they are not!
Frankly allan isn't worth a million unless he signs a contract extension.
Ozyhibby
07-07-2015, 01:30 PM
Frankly allan isn't worth a million unless he signs a contract extension.
Good, then let's keep him and get promoted.
Frankly allan isn't worth a million unless he signs a contract extension.
That just aint going to happen.
NORTHERNHIBBY
07-07-2015, 01:35 PM
And a third year in the championship thrown in. Barry. :-)
You reckon then that we are a one man team? Guess if that is true and Allan gets a bad knock or a run of suspensions, then we are toast?
Iain G
07-07-2015, 03:21 PM
lets just say Allan is worth £1 million. if celtic offer £500,000 plus McGeouch and Henderson then obviously that makes them worth £250,000 each. Which quite frankly they are not!
More like 300k, McGeough and Henderson on loan for the season....
Unseen work
07-07-2015, 06:49 PM
There is no way we should sell Allan for a player swap or money. He will be essential in our push for promotion and would contribute far more than mcgeouch or Henderson imo
bingo70
07-07-2015, 06:55 PM
There is no way we should sell Allan for a player swap or money. He will be essential in our push for promotion and would contribute far more than mcgeouch or Henderson imo
I like Allan and I'd prefer we kept him but remember hearts got promoted without him, if him Leaving allowed us to have a better balanced midfield or start to play with wingers then we could be a better team for it.
Fwiw I don't think Mcgeoch would come into that category as I'm not his biggest fan, not sure about Henderson.
Unseen work
07-07-2015, 07:49 PM
I like Allan and I'd prefer we kept him but remember hearts got promoted without him, if him Leaving allowed us to have a better balanced midfield or start to play with wingers then we could be a better team for it.
Fwiw I don't think Mcgeoch would come into that category as I'm not his biggest fan, not sure about Henderson.
Hearts were a solid overall team and very well balanced. With the signings Stubbs has made so far and a good pre season I think we too will have a well balanced solid team, Scott Allan on top of that would be a massive bonus and make us perform even better as you know he can produce something out of nothing.
jacomo
07-07-2015, 08:01 PM
You reckon then that we are a one man team? Guess if that is true and Allan gets a bad knock or a run of suspensions, then we are toast?
Not necessarily, but if you want to win a league it helps to have players who stand out above the rest. SA is certainly one of those.
Ozyhibby
07-07-2015, 08:31 PM
Not necessarily, but if you want to win a league it helps to have players who stand out above the rest. SA is certainly one of those.
Correct. We have a great player, we should keep him. We need promoted more than any transfer fee.
muzzando
08-07-2015, 05:49 AM
EEN saying we're set to sign Keith Watson with Stubbs impressed with his versatility
NadeAteMyLunch!
08-07-2015, 06:36 AM
Was Keith Watson not on record as saying he didn't want to stay at DUFC a while back as he wanted a crack down south? His career certainly seems to have stalled since then. I think he'll be a good signing with a pre season behind him
PeterboroHibee
08-07-2015, 07:06 AM
Was Keith Watson not on record as saying he didn't want to stay at DUFC a while back as he wanted a crack down south? His career certainly seems to have stalled since then. I think he'll be a good signing with a pre season behind him
If reports are true about the number of injuries hes had at United (and there was occasions last where I thought he did struggle), its probably not surprising there is less interest in him. Im always wary about signing guys who are injury prone, but if he can stay fit he will provide good cover in the team (although despite what others have said, I think he would be behind our other 5 defenders).
AlbertK86
08-07-2015, 07:40 AM
If reports are true about the number of injuries hes had at United (and there was occasions last where I thought he did struggle), its probably not surprising there is less interest in him. Im always wary about signing guys who are injury prone, but if he can stay fit he will provide good cover in the team (although despite what others have said, I think he would be behind our other 5 defenders).
Agree re being behind the other 5 but happy to have him as he is so versatile and performed very well bar the Sevconians game.
May save some budget for elsewhere as he can cover any defensive position
Was Keith Watson not on record as saying he didn't want to stay at DUFC a while back as he wanted a crack down south? His career certainly seems to have stalled since then. I think he'll be a good signing with a pre season behind him
Edinburgh is south of Dundee, so technically that's correct. :greengrin
I assume the offers haven't been flooding in for him or he'd be away down south as you say, he may see Hibs as a chance to still get game time, a decent wage and by all accounts a very good dressing room atmosphere with excellent coaches who make training a happy place to be.
Ronniekirk
08-07-2015, 08:12 AM
If reports are true about the number of injuries hes had at United (and there was occasions last where I thought he did struggle), its probably not surprising there is less interest in him. Im always wary about signing guys who are injury prone, but if he can stay fit he will provide good cover in the team (although despite what others have said, I think he would be behind our other 5 defenders).
Staying fit is the key bit for me Last season we were lucky Lewis didn't pick up an injury as Gray was out several times and Foster Fontaine and Hanlon and Watson all had game time lost because of injury With a small squad that could cost us if it's repeated this year and it was no coincidence that towards the end of the season players who were injury prone were out and others were tired as they couldn't get a break .
I reaise that being in the Championship again restricts who we can attract but with any further signings we need to be aware of thier history and not take any chances
Farid hopefully on his way back to full fitness ,but again has a history and Boyle is just coming back from lengthy lay off so we need to be mindful Also some were injured on plastic pitches so be interesting to see if we pick up more injuries on those or whether that was just coincidence last season
ManBearPig
08-07-2015, 08:15 AM
Fraud was he not a Rangers player?
Ronniekirk
08-07-2015, 08:27 AM
Fraud was he not a Rangers player?
Allegedly they had several Fraud s in the squad last season , :rolleyes: ever mind it running rife throughout the club :wink:
Billy Whizz
08-07-2015, 08:29 AM
All gone quiet on Jason Holt, wonder where he's going to end up
Hibs History
08-07-2015, 09:55 AM
All gone quiet on Jason Holt, wonder where he's going to end up
Was wondering about that too
Seems to have great potential even if the yams can't see it!
I hope he doesn't end up at therangers or that his wage demands don't price us out!
Would like to see him, Watson and a Midfield defensive/enforcer brought in and that should be us done!
Ozyhibby
08-07-2015, 10:57 AM
Was wondering about that too
Seems to have great potential even if the yams can't see it!
I hope he doesn't end up at therangers or that his wage demands don't price us out!
Would like to see him, Watson and a Midfield defensive/enforcer brought in and that should be us done!
I would be happy with that.
Haymaker
08-07-2015, 12:28 PM
Not gonna lie, this thread is in serious need of something to :hyper about. :agree:
Billy Whizz
08-07-2015, 12:38 PM
Not gonna lie, this thread is in serious need of something to :hyper about. :agree:
Wonder if anyone will go out of Celtic, if Ciftci goes in
Wonder if anyone will go out of Celtic, if Ciftci goes in
He'll be a straight replacement for Guidetti who went back to Man City.
SHODAN
08-07-2015, 01:48 PM
Watson close to signing.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/keith-watson-set-to-sign-deal-with-hibs-1-3823913
Hibs History
08-07-2015, 01:57 PM
Watson close to signing.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/keith-watson-set-to-sign-deal-with-hibs-1-3823913
Bloomin' heck, those jambos really are obsessed with us.
8 comments on the article, all from yams 'trying' to slag off hibs, stubbs and Watson with their own unique brand of football insight.
Can all hibs fans please boycott commenting on the EEN website?
Cocaine&Caviar
08-07-2015, 02:01 PM
GK: Oxley / Reguero
RB: Gray / K. Watson
CB: Hanlon / TBC
CB: Fontaine / Forster
LB: Stevenson / Crane
RM: Boyle / Harris
CM: Allan / Handling
CM: Fyvie / Stanton
LM: Carmichael / TBC
ST: Cummings / Keatings
ST: Malonga / Farid
Lee Marvin
08-07-2015, 02:14 PM
GK: Oxley / Reguero
RB: Gray / K. Watson
CB: Hanlon / TBC
CB: Fontaine / Forster
LB: Stevenson / Crane
RM: Boyle / Harris
CM: Allan / Handling
CM: Fyvie / Stanton
LM: Carmichael / TBC
ST: Cummings / Keatings
ST: Malonga / Farid
Midfield definitely weakest area. We won't, but I would be worried if we ended august like this. We need an enforcer, badly!
Defence and strikers looking strong though
Onceinawhile
08-07-2015, 02:18 PM
GK: Oxley / Reguero
RB: Gray / K. Watson
CB: Hanlon / TBC
CB: Fontaine / Forster
LB: Stevenson / Crane
RM: Boyle / Harris
CM: Allan / Handling
CM: Fyvie / Stanton
LM: Carmichael / TBC
ST: Cummings / Keatings
ST: Malonga / Farid
I'd imagine the first tbc would be the other Watson. Looks good but as mentioned probably need two central midfielders in there ahead of handling and Stanton.
dangermouse
08-07-2015, 02:18 PM
GK: Oxley / Reguero
RB: Gray / K. Watson
CB: Hanlon / TBC
CB: Fontaine / Forster
LB: Stevenson / Crane
RM: Boyle / Harris
CM: Allan / Handling
CM: Fyvie / Stanton
LM: Carmichael / TBC
ST: Cummings / Keatings
ST: Malonga / Farid
Would imagine Watson would be cover for Hanlon as well. Hanlon can also play at left back.
GreenCastle
08-07-2015, 02:48 PM
GK: Oxley / Reguero
RB: Gray / K. Watson
CB: Hanlon / TBC
CB: Fontaine / Forster
LB: Stevenson / Crane
RM: Boyle / Harris
CM: Allan / Handling
CM: Fyvie / Stanton
LM: Carmichael / TBC
ST: Cummings / Keatings
ST: Malonga / Farid
Don't forget Boyle and Faird are currently both injured.
Forster back in full training yet ?
PeterboroHibee
08-07-2015, 03:54 PM
I'd imagine the first tbc would be the other Watson. Looks good but as mentioned probably need two central midfielders in there ahead of handling and Stanton.
Was it not reported that we dropped our interest in the other Watson now that we were close to signing Keith Watson? I think with the 3 main CBs and Watson we are covered, and should probably be trying to have one of the youth players on the fringes.
Midfield is much more pressing and we could still use a couple of signings. Apart from that the squad looks really good, and for a change we actually have a squad assembled ready for the season!
Don't forget Boyle and Faird are currently both injured.
Forster back in full training yet ?
He's in Spain with the team so I'd assume he was.
GK: Oxley / Reguero
RB: Gray / K. Watson
CB: Hanlon / TBC
CB: Fontaine / Forster
LB: Stevenson / Crane
RM: Boyle / Harris
CM: Allan / Handling
CM: Fyvie / Stanton
LM: Carmichael / TBC
ST: Cummings / Keatings
ST: Malonga / Farid
Harris also plays on the left, with Carmichael capable of playing behind the strikers, if Watson signs, the 2 midfielders is all we need, hopefully one being a bit more defensive than the other to balance up the team.
Unseen work
08-07-2015, 05:13 PM
VERY short in the amount of quality we have in centre mid. Obviously Allan and fyvie are brilliant but after that we are struggling quite a bit, especially if Stanton/ handling leave. If anything happened to them we would be struggling big time
VERY short in the amount of quality we have in centre mid. Obviously Allan and fyvie are brilliant but after that we are struggling quite a bit, especially if Stanton/ handling leave. If anything happened to them we would be struggling big time
Agree, look pretty light weight in mid field.
AlbertK86
08-07-2015, 06:56 PM
Some boy on Twitter who appears to be a sevconian saying Scott Allan was sitting in front of him on a plane coming back from Spain and suggesting cos he's leaving on his own he's about to leave Hibs
Probably typical lying Sevconian
Take it nobody ITK has heard any rumour of him leaving La Manga for injury or any other reason
Hibstrooper
08-07-2015, 07:04 PM
Some boy on Twitter who appears to be a sevconian saying Scott Allan was sitting in front of him on a plane coming back from Spain and suggesting cos he's leaving on his own he's about to leave Hibs
Probably typical lying Sevconian
Take it nobody ITK has heard any rumour of him leaving La Manga for injury or any other reason
He has left La Manga however that's because he's about to be a dad any day.
AlbertK86
08-07-2015, 07:05 PM
He has left La Manga however that's because he's about to be a dad any day.
Well that's good news all round then
Ozyhibby
08-07-2015, 07:10 PM
He has left La Manga however that's because he's about to be a dad any day.
:-) Good man.
jacomo
08-07-2015, 07:19 PM
Watson close to signing.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/keith-watson-set-to-sign-deal-with-hibs-1-3823913
:hyper
SouthMoroccoStu
08-07-2015, 07:25 PM
Some boy on Twitter who appears to be a sevconian saying Scott Allan was sitting in front of him on a plane coming back from Spain and suggesting cos he's leaving on his own he's about to leave Hibs
Probably typical lying Sevconian
Take it nobody ITK has heard any rumour of him leaving La Manga for injury or any other reason
"....means he's about to leave Hibs"
Of course it does princess!
Some of these Huns are right window lickers
bingo70
08-07-2015, 08:29 PM
Hibs just retweeted a picture from the training today, won't let me post the picture on my phone but there's a guy I don't recognise standing beside Cummings, possible trialist?
Anybody able to post the picture up?
AlbertK86
08-07-2015, 08:31 PM
Hibs just retweeted a picture from the training today, won't let me post the picture on my phone but there's a guy I don't recognise standing beside Cummings, possible trialist? Anybody able to post the picture up?
15134
Thecat23
08-07-2015, 08:32 PM
Hibs just retweeted a picture from the training today, won't let me post the picture on my phone but there's a guy I don't recognise standing beside Cummings, possible trialist?
Anybody able to post the picture up?
Thought it's Harris on his right and Handling on his left?
Jonnyboy
08-07-2015, 08:33 PM
15134
How did Scott Allan get in that pic when he was on a plane today? :wink:
hfc-1875
08-07-2015, 08:33 PM
Hibs just retweeted a picture from the training today, won't let me post the picture on my phone but there's a guy I don't recognise standing beside Cummings, possible trialist?
Anybody able to post the picture up?
On my phone so I couldn't quite see properly but it looked like Harris and handling either side of him. Could be wrong though.
Jonnyboy
08-07-2015, 08:34 PM
On my phone so I couldn't quite see properly but it looked like Harris and handling either side of him. Could be wrong though.
That's who I thought it was too
AlbertK86
08-07-2015, 08:35 PM
<img src="http://www.hibs.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=15134"/>
Scott Allan there as well ..... Must have gone straight to the airport to catch his flight that the Sevconian saw him on !!
bingo70
08-07-2015, 08:36 PM
On my phone so I couldn't quite see properly but it looked like Harris and handling either side of him. Could be wrong though.
Aye, I'm on my phone too so that's my excuse if it is him, I thought the guy in the photo had long hair, it's probably just a bit blurry though.
Unseen work
08-07-2015, 10:59 PM
Hard to make out the players in the photo but I can only really make out Scott Allan, Lewis Allan, handling, Harris, fyvie Fontaine Stevenson.
The boy inbetween Harris and handling is probably Cummings but his hair looks a lot shorter or different
The rest I'm unsure, maybe youngsters/trialists.
Who is it next to Allan? Keatings?
NadeAteMyLunch!
09-07-2015, 04:14 AM
How did Scott Allan get in that pic when he was on a plane today? :wink:
Yeah but JB, look how far away he is standing from the rest of the squad. It's almost Ashley Cole esque. Clearly real disharmony between him and the rest of the squad, probably due to the fact he was about to get on a flight straight to Ibrox
[emoji4]
NadeAteMyLunch!
09-07-2015, 04:16 AM
Also, the players shouldn't be dressed head to toe in black in that heat. They must be roasting.
Petrie!
muzzando
09-07-2015, 07:27 AM
Todays evening news says that Stubbs is confident that the trip to La Manga won't impact on his budget for players
Ozyhibby
09-07-2015, 08:16 AM
Todays evening news says that Stubbs is confident that the trip to La Manga won't impact on his budget for players
I'd prefer if he was certain. :-)
CallumLaidlaw
09-07-2015, 08:18 AM
I'd prefer if he was certain. :-)
He actually says its seperate so has no impact.
Tha Cabbage Kid
09-07-2015, 08:38 AM
He's in Spain with the team so I'd assume he was.
is harris in spain too?
Billy Whizz
09-07-2015, 08:41 AM
is harris in spain too?
He's in the photo above, also recognised Lewis Allan and Scott Martin from the development team. Is Dunsmore in this photo?
CapitalGreen
09-07-2015, 08:46 AM
He's in the photo above, also recognised Lewis Allan and Scott Martin from the development team. Is Dunsmore in this photo?
On Stevenson's right I think
Billy Whizz
09-07-2015, 09:02 AM
On Stevenson's right I think
Bang on
Tha Cabbage Kid
09-07-2015, 09:03 AM
hard to make out but i think...
from left to right
Fyvie,harris, Martin, handling,hanlon(under fonts chiin) fonts,L.Allan, someone, carmicheal, stevenson, dunsmore or cummings, keatings, flanagan the trainer, s.allan????
CallumLaidlaw
09-07-2015, 09:05 AM
hard to make out but i think...
from left to right
Fyvie,harris, Martin, handling,hanlon(under fonts chiin) fonts,L.Allan, someone, carmicheal, stevenson, dunsmore or cummings, keatings, flanagan the trainer, s.allan????
Is it not Cummings between Harris and Handling?
Billy Whizz
09-07-2015, 09:26 AM
Is it not Cummings between Harris and Handling?
It is. Is Forster in La Manga?
GreenCastle
09-07-2015, 09:45 AM
It is. Is Forster in La Manga?
Yes
QMU-1875
09-07-2015, 10:15 AM
Mate of mine that told me Reguero was signing saying we have got Filip Kiss and he will be joining pre season when the players return from La Manga. Great signing if true, only passing on what I've heard from someone who has been spot on in the past!
Billy Whizz
09-07-2015, 10:16 AM
Mate of mine that told me Reguero was signing saying we have got Filip Kiss and he will be joining pre season when the players return from La Manga. Great signing if true, only passing on what I've heard from someone who has been spot on in the past!
Where does he play
CapitalGreen
09-07-2015, 10:23 AM
Where does he play
Centre Midfield
SteveHFC
09-07-2015, 10:24 AM
Where does he play
Centre midfielder mate.
Would be a great signing.
Where does he play
6' 1" midfielder who is contracted to Cardiff his Wiki said, at Ross Co last season.
Billy Whizz
09-07-2015, 10:25 AM
Centre Midfield
Just read up on him on Wiki
southsider
09-07-2015, 10:27 AM
Centre midfielder mate.
Would be a great signing.
Cardiff City player who was on loan at Ross County last season.
CapitalGreen
09-07-2015, 10:27 AM
6' 1" midfielder who is contracted to Cardiff his Wiki said, at Ross Co last season.
Apparently been told he is free to leave this summer.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/javi-guerra-etien-velikonja-filip-9393741
SteveHFC
09-07-2015, 10:31 AM
Apparently been told he is free to leave this summer.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/javi-guerra-etien-velikonja-filip-9393741
Would take velikonja since he's class in fm.
--------
09-07-2015, 10:32 AM
Also, the players shouldn't be dressed head to toe in black in that heat. They must be roasting.
Petrie!
This is a myth. If there's any breeze at all, black clothing is cooler than light-coloured or white clothing. A black car will get hotter than a white one in strong sunlight (Mythbusters), but black clothes absorb more heat from your body than white clothes, and therefore make you cooler.
http://io9.com/5903956/the-physics-that-explain-why-you-should-wear-black-this-summer
I hope the guy who says Filip Kiss is joining us is right. :agree:
Smartie
09-07-2015, 10:38 AM
Cardiff City player who was on loan at Ross County last season.
At what point last season did he join Ross County?
They were minging in the first half of the season then really quite impressive in the second.
If he joined in January (I think they signed a few players short-term at that point) and was part of turning around a Premier League club's fortunes then he could be a very good signing indeed.
GordonHFC
09-07-2015, 10:43 AM
At what point last season did he join Ross County?
They were minging in the first half of the season then really quite impressive in the second.
If he joined in January (I think they signed a few players short-term at that point) and was part of turning around a Premier League club's fortunes then he could be a very good signing indeed.
Think he first joined them in January 2014 and played the second half of the 13/14 season. As far as I am aware he was at RC for the whole of last season.
erin go bragh
09-07-2015, 10:48 AM
This is a myth. If there's any breeze at all, black clothing is cooler than light-coloured or white clothing. A black car will get hotter than a white one in strong sunlight (Mythbusters), but black clothes absorb more heat from your body than white clothes, and therefore make you cooler.
http://io9.com/5903956/the-physics-that-explain-why-you-should-wear-black-this-summer
I hope the guy who says Filip Kiss is joining us is right. :agree:
That will be why the desert nomads are dressed head to foot in black .
GGTTH
Johnny_Leith
09-07-2015, 10:49 AM
Fillip Kiss would be a decent signing.
IIRC when he first joined county early last year he scored a few goals but last season struggled with injury and the change of management.
Confident Stubbs will bring the best out of him, if signed.
Leitherhibs
09-07-2015, 10:52 AM
Filip Kiss could be a goer. Understand we had an eastern european lad at east mains earlier in the week being shown round.
erin go bragh
09-07-2015, 10:54 AM
Scott Allan there as well ..... Must have gone straight to the airport to catch his flight that the Sevconian saw him on !!
Reported that SA has flew back home to see the birth of his baby . Stubbs saying he might be back for the game against Wigan on Sat .
GGTTH
NadeAteMyLunch!
09-07-2015, 10:54 AM
This is a myth. If there's any breeze at all, black clothing is cooler than light-coloured or white clothing. A black car will get hotter than a white one in strong sunlight (Mythbusters), but black clothes absorb more heat from your body than white clothes, and therefore make you cooler.
http://io9.com/5903956/the-physics-that-explain-why-you-should-wear-black-this-summer
I hope the guy who says Filip Kiss is joining us is right. :agree:
Interesting. I just know that my black car is unbearable at this time of year(on the odd days that we get sunshine)
Kiss would be a tremendous signing. He was quality when he first signed for County! Didn't pay as much attention to him last season due to not really giving two hoots about the premier. If Derek Adams could get good performances out of him then I'm confident that Stubbs would get even more out of him
Keith_M
09-07-2015, 11:19 AM
Interesting. I just know that my black car is unbearable at this time of year(on the odd days that we get sunshine)
Kiss would be a tremendous signing. He was quality when he first signed for County! Didn't pay as much attention to him last season due to not really giving two hoots about the premier. If Derek Adams could get good performances out of him then I'm confident that Stubbs would get even more out of him
I've got a silver car and it was unbearable for over a week.
NadeAteMyLunch!
09-07-2015, 11:30 AM
Reported that SA has flew back home to see the birth of his baby . Stubbs saying he might be back for the game against Wigan on Sat .
GGTTH
Was just reading that. Hope Scott Allan is using his air miles for all these flights and not Stubbsy's budget [emoji102]
The_Horde
09-07-2015, 12:02 PM
Could be the English championship midfielder one of the ITK guys mentioned a few weeks back?
Top signing if true.
mattyjacklegend
09-07-2015, 12:23 PM
Kiss was excellent when on loan from Jan 14. Was another example of County's incredible January business they seem to do every year.
Last season he was generally poor, a real let down as fans felt he was going to be a talisman for them last season. Arguably played his best football at RB last season.
No doubt he has ability just whether he is up for the fight and being the leader his CV would suggest he should be. A year deal with little security could bring the best out of him as it does with so many at this level.
Ultimately at Scottish Championship level he should stand out and help us get promoted.
mattyjacklegend
09-07-2015, 12:24 PM
Kiss was excellent when on loan from Jan 14. Was another example of County's incredible January business they seem to do every year.
Last season he was generally poor, a real let down as fans felt he was going to be a talisman for them last season. Arguably played his best football at RB last season.
No doubt he has ability just whether he is up for the fight and being the leader his CV would suggest he should be. A year deal with little security could bring the best out of him as it does with so many at this level.
Ultimately at Scottish Championship level he should stand out and help us get promoted.
Sorry, the grammar and sentence structure there is appaling. Should really read back before posting, haha
HUTCHYHIBBY
09-07-2015, 12:26 PM
This is a myth. If there's any breeze at all, black clothing is cooler than light-coloured or white clothing. A black car will get hotter than a white one in strong sunlight (Mythbusters), but black clothes absorb more heat from your body than white clothes, and therefore make you cooler.
http://io9.com/5903956/the-physics-that-explain-why-you-should-wear-black-this-summer
Indeed, the Bedouins have had a while to suss this out. ;-)
Unseen work
09-07-2015, 12:27 PM
who is the player in the photo that looks like Liam Craig? Fourth from the right. Keith Watson?
BOB MARLEYS DUG
09-07-2015, 12:29 PM
who is the player in the photo that looks like Liam Craig? Fourth from the right. Keith Watson?
Fraser Fyvie.
Unseen work
09-07-2015, 12:33 PM
Fraser Fyvie.
fyvie is on the left next to harris cummings and handling mate
BOB MARLEYS DUG
09-07-2015, 12:39 PM
fyvie is on the left next to harris cummings and handling mate
Oops. I never looked at the pic but when you mentioned Craig I though 'ginger' and the only other ginger in the team is Fyvie, so I assumed it was him.
Possibly Lewis Allan or Scott Martin mate. Not 100% sure though.
CallumLaidlaw
09-07-2015, 12:52 PM
Am I stupid for thinking that it's mental that a 23yr old up and coming player with 1 year left on his contract is being touted as being worth £500k, while a 32yr old (nearly 33) is being valued at £5m
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3154801/Sheffield-Wednesday-make-4-25m-offer-Ipswich-Town-striker-Daryl-Murphy.html
SouthMoroccoStu
09-07-2015, 01:01 PM
Kiss was excellent when on loan from Jan 14. Was another example of County's incredible January business they seem to do every year.
Last season he was generally poor, a real let down as fans felt he was going to be a talisman for them last season. Arguably played his best football at RB last season.
No doubt he has ability just whether he is up for the fight and being the leader his CV would suggest he should be. A year deal with little security could bring the best out of him as it does with so many at this level.
Ultimately at Scottish Championship level he should stand out and help us get promoted.
Must be honest, I really don't know much about him
What type of midfielder is he? What could we expect if he signs?
SHODAN
09-07-2015, 01:14 PM
Am I stupid for thinking that it's mental that a 23yr old up and coming player with 1 year left on his contract is being touted as being worth £500k, while a 32yr old (nearly 33) is being valued at £5m
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3154801/Sheffield-Wednesday-make-4-25m-offer-Ipswich-Town-striker-Daryl-Murphy.html
If Allan was English he would be worth over £5m.
Smartie
09-07-2015, 01:27 PM
Am I stupid for thinking that it's mental that a 23yr old up and coming player with 1 year left on his contract is being touted as being worth £500k, while a 32yr old (nearly 33) is being valued at £5m
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3154801/Sheffield-Wednesday-make-4-25m-offer-Ipswich-Town-striker-Daryl-Murphy.html
The article says "The Republic of Ireland striker is 32 and only has a year left on his contract at Portman Road, but such is the premium on goalscorers in England's second tier his value remains high" which pretty much sums it up.
Some good pieces of business by Ipswich there though. Get Murphy at 30, get him to score a few goals then get 5m for him 2 years later, buy Tyrone Mings for £10k and sell him a few years later for 8m.
That should give them a decent war chest.
mattyjacklegend
09-07-2015, 01:43 PM
Must be honest, I really don't know much about him
What type of midfielder is he? What could we expect if he signs?
He is a proper CM who is adept at all facets of playing there, so box to box would be the best way to describe him. Scored 6 goals in 17 games in his first spell at County, majority long range efforts. His all round ability would help us as he would be capable of playing DM in a 3 or CM as a 2. At DM he would be adept at starting attacks with his range of passing and the fact he can be combative. Also through his 'shooting ability' he could play further forward. Flexible which suits Stubbs mantra.
The reason I put inverted commas round shooting is he played 31 games last season and scored zero. He did play large chunks at RB though as I said.
Played 8 times for Slovakia and big things were expected of him at Cardiff. Only 24 and certainly has talent. Career not moving where it would have expected to by now.
The beauty of all that is this seems to be the type of player Stubbs can get the best out of and help him discover his potential. Not ITK but can certainly see this coming to fruition. Just ticks a lot of Stubbs boxes.
SHODAN
09-07-2015, 01:50 PM
Has this Kiss signing rumour yet progressed beyond "I heard a rumour from a guy"?
Fits the bill for what we need but not at all convinced we're even interested as of yet.
mattyjacklegend
09-07-2015, 01:54 PM
Has this Kiss signing rumour yet progressed beyond "I heard a rumour from a guy"?
Fits the bill for what we need but not at all convinced we're even interested as of yet.
Nah mate. Only heard on here and thought I would explain the player to folk. Does fit the bill and available in loan on our budget.
So in terms of guess work, this at least makes sense, haha.
Last Minute
09-07-2015, 01:58 PM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/5539
Fantastic signing. Stephen is a great guy and is a true hibs fan. Everthing he does has Hibs in it somewhere. I know he does so much work for Hibs and gives alot of his own money to the youth set up. He was one at the time who interviewed and helped bring Mowbray here. A true Gentleman who will always do his best for hibs. Welcome aboard Stephen. :thumbsup:
--------
09-07-2015, 02:02 PM
I've got a silver car and it was unbearable for over a week.
A car parked out in the sun will heat up like an over - doesn't matter what colour it is. When "Mythbusters" investigated this they had a white car and a black car; the black car fired up to 135 degrees while the silver one didn't get any hotter than about 126.
So if you can stand a temperature of 126 degrees Celsius you're OK. :aok:
BTW, Hutchy, "Bedouin" is the plural - many Bedouin. I used to know an old soldier who had been in North Africa and he had a story about one of them where he just called him "that auld Budoo".
You'll find the same expression in one or two of George MacDonald Fraser's McAuslan stories, which if you haven't come across them, are really worth reading.
I still can't figure out why anyone would be getting fired up about a pre-season trip to Spain as a bad thing.
My_Wife_Camille
09-07-2015, 02:16 PM
Has this Kiss signing rumour yet progressed beyond "I heard a rumour from a guy"?
Fits the bill for what we need but not at all convinced we're even interested as of yet.
One if the Hibs transfer accounts on twitter is saying that it's on. Saying both the player and the club are interested?
Hibs History
09-07-2015, 02:43 PM
He is a proper CM who is adept at all facets of playing there, so box to box would be the best way to describe him. Scored 6 goals in 17 games in his first spell at County, majority long range efforts. His all round ability would help us as he would be capable of playing DM in a 3 or CM as a 2. At DM he would be adept at starting attacks with his range of passing and the fact he can be combative. Also through his 'shooting ability' he could play further forward. Flexible which suits Stubbs mantra.
The reason I put inverted commas round shooting is he played 31 games last season and scored zero. He did play large chunks at RB though as I said.
Played 8 times for Slovakia and big things were expected of him at Cardiff. Only 24 and certainly has talent. Career not moving where it would have expected to by now.
The beauty of all that is this seems to be the type of player Stubbs can get the best out of and help him discover his potential. Not ITK but can certainly see this coming to fruition. Just ticks a lot of Stubbs boxes.
:aok: Much appreciated mattyjacklegend
mattyjacklegend
09-07-2015, 02:57 PM
:aok: Much appreciated mattyjacklegend
No worries mate.
eastmainsmsh
09-07-2015, 04:10 PM
Just about spilt my hot chocolate reading this thread this lunchtime it started with a kiss lol
nellio
09-07-2015, 04:21 PM
I can answer any questions about Kiss. Was a Cardiff season ticket holder for years before moving here and saw Kiss play a lot. Central midfielder who isn't scared to put his foot in. Played for Ross county and managed to score a couple too. In my opinion would be an exceptional signing if we can pull it off. Definitely won't get a game at Cardiff any more so wouldn't be surprised if he can leave. Mind you used to get booked a lot!
The_Horde
09-07-2015, 05:22 PM
Really hope we sign both kiss and suk..
BREAKING RUMOUR: The bush lingerer says kiss is in for a trial but hasn't signed yet.
Brightside
09-07-2015, 05:35 PM
Really hope we sign both kiss and suk..
BREAKING RUMOUR: The bush lingerer says kiss is in for a trial but hasn't signed yet.
Haha.
BOB MARLEYS DUG
09-07-2015, 06:11 PM
Is Kiss in La Manga with Hibs?
Ronniekirk
09-07-2015, 06:15 PM
Is Kiss in La Manga with Hibs?
No read the thread :wink:
Scooter
09-07-2015, 07:51 PM
Is Jordon forster in Spain? He just tweeted a photo. In London with the bro
bingo70
09-07-2015, 07:52 PM
Is Jordon forster in Spain? He just tweeted a photo. In London with the bro
Thought that was strange too. Assume it's an older photo?
SteveHFC
09-07-2015, 09:40 PM
Really hope we sign both kiss and suk..
BREAKING RUMOUR: The bush lingerer says kiss is in for a trial but hasn't signed yet.
:faf:
GreenCastle
09-07-2015, 09:45 PM
Is Jordon forster in Spain? He just tweeted a photo. In London with the bro
Definitely was in Spain - unless he's left ?
Alex Trager
10-07-2015, 06:49 AM
Definitely was in Spain - unless he's left ?
He keeps tweeting/instagramming photos of him not in Spain. I assumed they're all older
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Peevemor
10-07-2015, 06:56 AM
He keeps tweeting/instagramming photos of him not in Spain. I assumed they're all older
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I suspect that the players know that anything the put on the internet just now is studied in minute detail by fans starved of news.
Wind up!
Mr Grieves
10-07-2015, 07:13 AM
http://m.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-boss-wants-to-make-three-more-signings-1-3826646?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Hoping to get three more players in, one being Watson. Any more signings above that would depend on players leaving
Billychaotic182
10-07-2015, 07:42 AM
http://m.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-boss-wants-to-make-three-more-signings-1-3826646?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Hoping to get three more players in, one being Watson. Any more signings above that would depend on players leaving
So Kiss and the two Watsons?
woodythehibee
10-07-2015, 07:45 AM
So Kiss and the two Watsons?
Be surprised if he signed both Watsons.
Already have Hanlon, Fonts and Forster at CH.
Billychaotic182
10-07-2015, 07:49 AM
Be surprised if he signed both Watsons.
Already have Hanlon, Fonts and Forster at CH.
I'd prefer a left back brought in
SteveHFC
10-07-2015, 07:49 AM
http://m.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-boss-wants-to-make-three-more-signings-1-3826646?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Hoping to get three more players in, one being Watson. Any more signings above that would depend on players leaving
Think we need another 5-6 players at the most.
andrew70
10-07-2015, 07:53 AM
Be surprised if he signed both Watsons.
Already have Hanlon, Fonts and Forster at CH.
That's precisely why he will if you have ask me. Forster's injury last season then subsequent issues with Gray and K.Watson showed up why we need strength in depth there.
CallumLaidlaw
10-07-2015, 07:57 AM
Think we need another 5-6 players at the most.
Another 5 or 6?? No chance.
I said before the keeper signings that we needed 5, maybe 6. The 2 keepers takes that to 3 maybe 4 (if any go out on loan). The 3 would be Keith Watson, a centre midfielder, and a left sided player, be it a full back or a winger.
Steve20
10-07-2015, 07:58 AM
Keith Watson and a couple of midfielders. That'll do fine.
I'd prefer a left back brought in
Hanlon and Fontaine are capable of playing there, we also have Crane from the development squad who is seemingly pretty decent.
So Kiss and the two Watsons?
Kiss would fill the 3rd midfield role but we only have Stanton and Handling as cover for 3 spots, I'd expect another midfielder in with Keith Watson as our utility back as he can cover anywhere along the back line.
Keith_M
10-07-2015, 08:39 AM
I have to say that I'm quite pleased with the Transfer Window so far. We're getting players in nice and early, tying up others on longer contracts and it actually looks like we're going to be ready for the season ahead.
I'd even make us favourites at this moment in time, though we've still to see who Der Hun sign.
Well done Hibs!
:thumbsup:
Ozyhibby
10-07-2015, 08:44 AM
Kiss would fill the 3rd midfield role but we only have Stanton and Handling as cover for 3 spots, I'd expect another midfielder in with Keith Watson as our utility back as he can cover anywhere along the back line.
I expect one of the three youngsters to depart, which will mean that they need replaced.
I expect one of the three youngsters to depart, while will means that they need replaced.
I never mentioned them because at this moment in time they are still at the club, if anyone leaves, then obviously that'll mean we need to bring someone in a cover.
SteveHFC
10-07-2015, 09:01 AM
Have we got any youngsters at the moment that can step up to the first team?
andrew70
10-07-2015, 09:45 AM
Have we got any youngsters at the moment that can step up to the first team?
Callum Crane is the obvious one for me. LB or DM or even left of a midfield diamond. Calm and composed on the ball, strong and determined in the tackle.
I like the look of Scott Martin an energetic, box to box midfielder but he like Dunsmore, L.Allan and C.Duthie has a lot to learn. The best way to learn though is through minutes on the park and if Stubbs is serious about only needing three more then they'll certainly be getting a chance or two this term.
CapitalGreen
10-07-2015, 09:58 AM
Callum Crane is the obvious one for me. LB or DM or even left of a midfield diamond. Calm and composed on the ball, strong and determined in the tackle.
I like the look of Scott Martin an energetic, box to box midfielder but he like Dunsmore, L.Allan and C.Duthie has a lot to learn. The best way to learn though is through minutes on the park and if Stubbs is serious about only needing three more then they'll certainly be getting a chance or two this term.
I'm hoping this season we can be a bit more ruthless and put some of the smaller teams away earlier in the match, which will allow us to bring these players on more often. Continually seeing out 1 goal leads and needing last minute winners doesn't provide much opportunity to bring on inexperienced young players.
andrew70
10-07-2015, 10:02 AM
I'm hoping this season we can be a bit more ruthless and put some of the smaller teams away earlier in the match, which will allow us to bring these players on more often. Continually seeing out 1 goal leads and needing last minute winners doesn't provide much opportunity to bring on inexperienced young players.
Let's hope so but we'll need Keatings to get a barrowload and El Alagui to stay fit if we are to do that.
We need to be a lot more dynamic as a team but hopefully we've learnt from last season.
Spike Mandela
10-07-2015, 10:12 AM
I have to say that I'm quite pleased with the Transfer Window so far. We're getting players in nice and early, tying up others on longer contracts and it actually looks like we're going to be ready for the season ahead.
I'd even make us favourites at this moment in time, though we've still to see who Der Hun sign.
Well done Hibs!
:thumbsup:
Know what you are saying, but really we have only signed two outfield players that weren't there last year and a reserve goalie.
I have to say that I'm quite pleased with the Transfer Window so far. We're getting players in nice and early, tying up others on longer contracts and it actually looks like we're going to be ready for the season ahead.
I'd even make us favourites at this moment in time, though we've still to see who Der Hun sign.
Well done Hibs!
:thumbsup:
Know what you are saying, but really we have only signed two outfield players that weren't there last year and a reserve goalie.
We've signed 2 players who were on loan & 1 who was on a short term contract. Those are 3 new signings who we've had an opportunity to assess over several months. Would you have preferred us to have taken a chance on 3 outside players such as Dje Dje or Malonga who we've probably only seen on video & who may or may not be successful?
jacomo
10-07-2015, 10:39 AM
Know what you are saying, but really we have only signed two outfield players that weren't there last year and a reserve goalie.
The continuity at the back is very important I think. The 2 new faces are both attacking options who already know this division. AS is prioritising areas where we are still short. At least one of the kids surely must make a breakthrough - it's long overdue.
I think it's coming together quite nicely.
ElginHibbie
10-07-2015, 10:45 AM
We've signed 2 players who were on loan & 1 who was on a short term contract. Those are 3 new signings who we've had an opportunity to assess over several months. Would you have preferred us to have taken a chance on 3 outside players such as Dje Dje or Malonga who we've probably only seen on video & who may or may not be successful?
Presume you mean Fyvie as the one on short term contract but don't forget we also got Fontaine signed up longer term as he could have left!
Big Sexy Dave
10-07-2015, 11:04 AM
Am I stupid for thinking that it's mental that a 23yr old up and coming player with 1 year left on his contract is being touted as being worth £500k, while a 32yr old (nearly 33) is being valued at £5m
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3154801/Sheffield-Wednesday-make-4-25m-offer-Ipswich-Town-striker-Daryl-Murphy.html
Yes. Murphy got 33 goals playing ina vastly superior league to Allan.
Spike Mandela
10-07-2015, 11:10 AM
We've signed 2 players who were on loan & 1 who was on a short term contract. Those are 3 new signings who we've had an opportunity to assess over several months. Would you have preferred us to have taken a chance on 3 outside players such as Dje Dje or Malonga who we've probably only seen on video & who may or may not be successful?
The continuity at the back is very important I think. The 2 new faces are both attacking options who already know this division. AS is prioritising areas where we are still short. At least one of the kids surely must make a breakthrough - it's long overdue.
I think it's coming together quite nicely.
I agree with you both and understand the importance of retaining and resigning players who did well for us last year but would like to see a few more actual new faces.
To exaggerate my point if we had signed/resigned our entire 22 man squad from last season would you call that good work in the transfer market? 22 signings after all but we would be exactly the same as last year.
Of course being as good as last year may be all that is required for promotion but personally would like tlo see Stubbs improve us with a few more completely new faces to freshen things up from the team that did well but had frailties last season.
Gordy M
10-07-2015, 11:19 AM
I agree with you both and understand the importance of retaining and resigning players who did well for us last year but would like to see a few more actual new faces.
To exaggerate my point if we had signed/resigned our entire 22 man squad from last season would you call that good work in the transfer market? 22 signings after all but we would be exactly the same as last year.
Of course being as good as last year may be all that is required for promotion but personally would like tlo see Stubbs improve us with a few more completely new faces to freshen things up from the team that did well but had frailties last season.
Much as i appreciate what you are saying, who do you think needs replaced? Stubbs has stated he will bring in another midfielder(or two) and prob another defender. Im interested to see what positions need freshened up?
BSEJVT
10-07-2015, 11:33 AM
I agree with you both and understand the importance of retaining and resigning players who did well for us last year but would like to see a few more actual new faces.
To exaggerate my point if we had signed/resigned our entire 22 man squad from last season would you call that good work in the transfer market? 22 signings after all but we would be exactly the same as last year.
Of course being as good as last year may be all that is required for promotion but personally would like tlo see Stubbs improve us with a few more completely new faces to freshen things up from the team that did well but had frailties last season.
Is it not the case though that we are trying to do what we are doing this year without any parachute payment (or at best a much reduced one)?
I would also suspect we are trying to do it with less season tickets sold as well?
I think what the club have achieved to date is brilliant, if we could get in another defender (maybe 2 if Paul Watson wasn't too expensive) and another 2 midfielders (one of whom must be a DM) that would be an excellent close season
I am realistic enough to know that we might need to lose 2 or3 for that to happen.
I think though that we will either get some meaningful return from Handling, Harris & Stanton or they will disappear.
If that's the case they will either give us something we didn't have last year or will free up wages to bring in those we need to supplement the squad.
Extremely optimistic about the season ahead.
Yes. Murphy got 33 goals playing ina vastly superior league to Allan.
I would say no. Totally different types of player tbh!
Murphy struggled at Smellic. Murphy is nearly 33 and not worth that.
I would say that we would get in excess of a million quid if we played in League one or the championship.
eastmainsmsh
10-07-2015, 11:40 AM
Coll Donaldson released by qpr worth a punt?
I agree with you both and understand the importance of retaining and resigning players who did well for us last year but would like to see a few more actual new faces.
To exaggerate my point if we had signed/resigned our entire 22 man squad from last season would you call that good work in the transfer market? 22 signings after all but we would be exactly the same as last year.
Of course being as good as last year may be all that is required for promotion but personally would like tlo see Stubbs improve us with a few more completely new faces to freshen things up from the team that did well but had frailties last season.
I understand your point but I think the major difference is AS has let go players he didn't want to keep & signed/resigned players he really wanted. Obvious exception may be DM. I think if we get the 3 in he's after then AS will be delighted & we'll have a settled, happy & better squad.
andrew70
10-07-2015, 11:51 AM
Coll Donaldson released by qpr worth a punt?
On trial at Dundee Untied but yes definitely.
Spike Mandela
10-07-2015, 12:18 PM
Much as i appreciate what you are saying, who do you think needs replaced? Stubbs has stated he will bring in another midfielder(or two) and prob another defender. Im interested to see what positions need freshened up?
As you rightly point out our midfield needs strengthened and hopefully that will happen and we retain Scott Allen.
Last year we squandered a hell of a lot of chances and drew or lost games where we had 20 chances or so. Hopefully the strikers will improve on this stat. Hopefully Cummings will continue to improve but I did wonder if we could find somebody more deadly than Malonga and hopefully Farid will stay injury free.
Drawing on Hearts as an example last season they scored a **** load of goals and they seem to have been spread through the team. Keatings will chip in with goals and hopefully Carmicheal as well but midfield need to chip in with a few more.
Defensively we seemed to do ok but as usual one or two key injuries and the old vulnerabilities surfaced. Would hate to lose Fontaine, Hanlon or Gray for any length of time this season. Goalkeeping wise we did seem to be a bit dodgy to balls in the box last year which always gave teams a chance from set pieces even when we were pummeling them.
All in all shaping up quite nicely for the season and will definitely be challenging for automatic promotion but hopefully Rangers don't improve too much from last season or it may be the playoffs again.
calumhibee1
10-07-2015, 12:22 PM
Happy with the way the teams shaping up. Another couple of midfielders and Keith Watson would suffice, although I'd like to see a winger in there aswell, probably with Harris leaving. I reckon Keatings and a fit Farid will see us eradicate the issue we had last season of creating enough chances each game to win 3 or 4 games but only scoring 1 or 2 not be as big an issue this year. I also think that the league looks significantly weaker this season. No Hearts, St Mirren replacing them and QOTS presumably going to be nowhere near as good has me thinking that whether we go up or not, we'll end up with a significantly higher points tally and goal difference than we did last season.
KeithTheHibby
10-07-2015, 01:31 PM
I wonder what the script with Dylan McG is?
I've noticed he wasn't part of the squad for Celtics last friendly which was surprising nor the one before that I think?
Could he have been offered to DU as part of the Cifti deal and he has turned it down? Would explain the omission from the squad I guess.
He could of course be injured which makes the above irrelevant!
GreenCastle
10-07-2015, 01:47 PM
We needed a winger last season and only got it with Boyle half way through. Carmichael I hope will add something also.
We haven't replaced Craig, Robertson or Dylan so we are weaker in midfield - its key we add some quality and toughness into that area - especially if we want to see the best from Allan and Fyvie.
Right now we are more settled than many a previous season but still lacking in a key area.
Big_Franck
10-07-2015, 01:58 PM
Last season we didn't get anywhere near enough goals from midfield which meant if our forwards had an off day then we struggled.
Looking at our midfielders now we will have the same problem again next season, which is a bit of a worry to be honest. We've seen that Allan doesn't score many goals, Carmichael scored two goals in his last two seasons with QOS and although he'll be an important player for us I can't see Fyvie getting more than 5/6 goals.
As well as a defensive midfielder we need another couple of goalscoring midfielders/wide players if we are to win the league IMO.
Franck Stanton
10-07-2015, 02:08 PM
Last season we didn't get anywhere near enough goals from midfield which meant if our forwards had an off day then we struggled.
Looking at our midfielders now we will have the same problem again next season, which is a bit of a worry to be honest. We've seen that Allan doesn't score many goals, Carmichael scored two goals in his last two seasons with QOS and although he'll be an important player for us I can't see Fyvie getting more than 5/6 goals.
As well as a defensive midfielder we need another couple of goalscoring midfielders/wide players if we are to win the league IMO.
Given that we now have 4 strikers fighting for 2 starting places I think we will see a marked improvement in the scoring stakes, and if, as you say they are having an "off-day" then there will be two able subs waiting to come on. We didn't have that luxury last season so had to stick with the same strikers even if they weren't performing. Also, think that with our midfield creating more chances we have the strikers in place to do well. If the rumours are correct and we sign Kiss, we have a real D/M who can score goals as well. First time in many a long year I have been so happy with the squad at the start of a new season.
We squandered a lot of chances last season due to few factors.
Farid's injury
Only having 2 strikers fit until January and having to play them even when they went off the boil.
Relying too heavily on the wingbacks to supply from wide, injury and tiredness killed us in the last couple of months.
Bringing in Djedje who was never really an out and out striker, more a winger/striker, so didn't really challenge for a start.
Overly complicating our midfield build up play, lovely to watch but in many cases too many passes and not enough penetrating passes to open up a defence, need more shots from distance from the midfielders.
Not enough variety in our tactical setup, the diamond worked well enough but was sussed and Stubbs needed to change it, took him a while to realise this and eventually went 3-5-2. We need to look at 4-3-3 with wide men to bring something different to the table, use any pace we have and allow our clever midfielders to be free to do their thing.
A holding midfielder to again allow Allan and Fyvie the licence to do their thing knowing the midfield is safe with a DM there.
We need more from the youngsters as they are not youngsters any more, time to step up or ship out.
Big_Franck
10-07-2015, 02:21 PM
Given that we now have 4 strikers fighting for 2 starting places I think we will see a marked improvement in the scoring stakes, and if, as you say they are having an "off-day" then there will be two able subs waiting to come on. We didn't have that luxury last season so had to stick with the same strikers even if they weren't performing. Also, think that with our midfield creating more chances we have the strikers in place to do well. If the rumours are correct and we sign Kiss, we have a real D/M who can score goals as well. First time in many a long year I have been so happy with the squad at the start of a new season.
Agree to an extent, I'm happy with what we have so far, and in comparison to previous seasons we are light years ahead of where we normally are. Having said that if you look at just about any league winning side they have goals from midfield, which at the moment I don't think we really have.
Franck Stanton
10-07-2015, 02:38 PM
Agree to an extent, I'm happy with what we have so far, and in comparison to previous seasons we are light years ahead of where we normally are. Having said that if you look at just about any league winning side they have goals from midfield, which at the moment I don't think we really have.
See where you are coming from BBF, however, this season can see that, if we sign Kiss, or another recognised D/M this will allow both SA and FF more licence to get further up the field, FF only had a short time with us and no pre-season so was not fully fit, think [hope] we will be pleasantly surprised. Onwards & upwards.
GreenCastle
10-07-2015, 03:00 PM
Some interesting stats from last season - check tables at bottom of page also.
http://www.soccerstats.com/team.asp?league=scotland2&teamid=13
From this our home form has to improve and it's imperative we start better.
hibees 7062
10-07-2015, 03:26 PM
I can answer any questions about Kiss. Was a Cardiff season ticket holder for years before moving here and saw Kiss play a lot. Central midfielder who isn't scared to put his foot in. Played for Ross county and managed to score a couple too. In my opinion would be an exceptional signing if we can pull it off. Definitely won't get a game at Cardiff any more so wouldn't be surprised if he can leave. Mind you used to get booked a lot!
Has he signed yet ?
jacomo
10-07-2015, 03:43 PM
Given that we now have 4 strikers fighting for 2 starting places I think we will see a marked improvement in the scoring stakes, and if, as you say they are having an "off-day" then there will be two able subs waiting to come on. We didn't have that luxury last season so had to stick with the same strikers even if they weren't performing. Also, think that with our midfield creating more chances we have the strikers in place to do well. If the rumours are correct and we sign Kiss, we have a real D/M who can score goals as well. First time in many a long year I have been so happy with the squad at the start of a new season.
Every good team needs a midfielder who can chip in with a few goals. People will set up very defensively against us.
hibees 7062
10-07-2015, 03:48 PM
We are trying to get Stokes on loan I hear
Iggy Pope
10-07-2015, 04:01 PM
We are trying to get Stokes on loan I hear
That would be nice.
Green forever
10-07-2015, 04:01 PM
We are trying to get Stokes on loan I hear
Would be amazed if Stokes was willing to drop down to the Scottish Championship.
SHODAN
10-07-2015, 04:01 PM
We are trying to get Stokes on loan I hear
Why?
Troublemaker, would cost a shedload even considering we're paying a percentage of his wages and we're sorted for strikers.
We are trying to get Stokes on loan I hear
Really.
That would be an outstanding signing IMHO!
Iggy Pope
10-07-2015, 04:07 PM
Why?
Troublemaker, would cost a shedload even considering we're paying a percentage of his wages and we're sorted for strikers.
Great player though?
hibees 7062
10-07-2015, 04:12 PM
Why?
Troublemaker, would cost a shedload even considering we're paying a percentage of his wages and we're sorted for strikers.
Yeah we know all this . I'm just passing on what i heard
Big_Franck
10-07-2015, 04:12 PM
We are trying to get Stokes on loan I hear
Would be really surprised if he'd drop down to the championship, unless he has some kind of affection for the club after his season with us. I'm not sure he fits in with the kind of characters that Stubbs has brought to the club so far though.
SHODAN
10-07-2015, 04:15 PM
Yeah we know all this . I'm just passing on what i heard
Not questioning what you're saying, cheers for letting us know. Just think it would be an odd signing considering what we need.
jacomo
10-07-2015, 04:16 PM
Would be really surprised if he'd drop down to the championship, unless he has some kind of affection for the club after his season with us. I'm not sure he fits in with the kind of characters that Stubbs has brought to the club so far though.
Seems highly unlikely to me.
SHODAN
10-07-2015, 04:18 PM
Seems highly unlikely to me.
Remember reading somewhere that he enjoyed his time here and only celebrates against us as he's been booed when returning to ER.
Spike Mandela
10-07-2015, 04:20 PM
Not questioning what you're saying, cheers for letting us know. Just think it would be an odd signing considering what we need.
Not odd if you think anout the amount of chances we missed last year. Stokes takes chances despite all the other nonsense.
SHODAN
10-07-2015, 04:22 PM
Not odd if you think anout the amount of chances we missed last year. Stokes takes chances despite all the other nonsense.
I'd hope that Keatings will be the goalscorer we need. Unless we're paying a low percentage of his wages, Stokes would be a pretty pricey signing and would mean we might not be able to get the centre mids we need. That said, I wouldn't be complaining if we signed him.
Not odd if you think anout the amount of chances we missed last year. Stokes takes chances despite all the other nonsense.
Stokes also gives you something different IMHO. Bit of quality to his all round game!
portyhibernian
10-07-2015, 04:27 PM
I would be stunned if Stokes is playing for us next season, just cannot see that happening.
Big_Franck
10-07-2015, 04:27 PM
Remember reading somewhere that he enjoyed his time here and only celebrates against us as he's been booed when returning to ER.
He only got booed because he was playing for celtic. I'm sure he'd be welcomed back in the unlikely scenario that it happens.
Famous Fiver
10-07-2015, 04:28 PM
My worry is Scott Allan.
Now that DU have £1.5 Mill and a disgruntled support I see another bid coming from them. Enter the ugly sisters and we have £ signs in front of Petrie's eyes and suddenly the heart is ripped out of our team yet again. I don't trust Petrie and I believe he is still at the heart of things.
Our priority is to hang on to what we have got. If DMcG becomes available push the boat out.
hibees 7062
10-07-2015, 04:47 PM
My worry is Scott Allan.
Now that DU have £1.5 Mill and a disgruntled support I see another bid coming from them. Enter the ugly sisters and we have £ signs in front of Petrie's eyes and suddenly the heart is ripped out of our team yet again. I don't trust Petrie and I believe he is still at the heart of things.
Our priority is to hang on to what we have got. If DMcG becomes available push the boat out.
No chance of him going back there he'd rather pack the game in
Ozyhibby
10-07-2015, 04:48 PM
Take Stokes in a heartbeat. You can't have too many quality players and Stokes is exactly that.
Thecat23
10-07-2015, 04:48 PM
I would be stunned if Stokes is playing for us next season, just cannot see that happening.
This.
Iggy Pope
10-07-2015, 04:49 PM
Would be really surprised if he'd drop down to the championship, unless he has some kind of affection for the club after his season with us. I'm not sure he fits in with the kind of characters that Stubbs has brought to the club so far though.
He dropped a level to come to us before.
bigwheel
10-07-2015, 04:50 PM
We are trying to get Stokes on loan I hear
No chance this is true.....
Franck Stanton
10-07-2015, 05:00 PM
We are trying to get Stokes on loan I hear
Can I ask just where you are hearing this ?
GreenArmyyy!
10-07-2015, 05:15 PM
If anybody believes Stokes will be in a Hibs strip next season they need sectioned.
nellio
10-07-2015, 05:19 PM
If Stokes is available I would imagine there would be a few English championship clubs looking at him. I know he's been on Cardiff's radar for a while now.
Iggy Pope
10-07-2015, 05:28 PM
If anybody believes Stokes will be in a Hibs strip next season they need sectioned.
Have to agree.
Jason Holt and a Scott Allan extension were a stick on not long ago too. Section 'em!
Jim44
10-07-2015, 05:32 PM
My worry is Scott Allan.
Now that DU have £1.5 Mill and a disgruntled support I see another bid coming from them. Enter the ugly sisters and we have £ signs in front of Petrie's eyes and suddenly the heart is ripped out of our team yet again. I don't trust Petrie and I believe he is still at the heart of things.
Our priority is to hang on to what we have got. If DMcG becomes available push the boat out.
We can't afford to sell Scott Allan. After what he himself has said, it would cause uproar in the ranks, which could have a disastrous effect on our promotion chances. I can't believe that Petrie or whoever makes the decisions could be so stupid and reckless.
HibbyAndy
10-07-2015, 05:40 PM
If anybody believes Stokes will be in a Hibs strip next season they need sectioned.
:agree:
The fact that some on here think it's realistic is truly staggering.
Iggy Pope
10-07-2015, 06:03 PM
:agree:
The fact that some on here think it's realistic is truly staggering.
Looks more like a punter putting it 'out there and only sharing what I heard"...like all the ITKers do...who else is saying its realistic? If its not Old But Dim saying it, its usually codswallop.
Seems highly unlikely to me.
Agree, need to get real.
greenginger
10-07-2015, 06:21 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/10/confirmed-celtic-line-up-v-real-sociedad/
Stokes getting a place on the bench tonight, so can't be totally out of the thinking at Celtic.
Billy Whizz
10-07-2015, 06:25 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/10/confirmed-celtic-line-up-v-real-sociedad/
Stokes getting a place on the bench tonight, so can't be totally out of the thinking at Celtic.
No sign of McGeough though
Thief
10-07-2015, 06:46 PM
There was a tweet 8 days ago from HFC talk, asking who would like to see Stokes back in a Hibs strip. Looked like it was just made to stimulate a discussion, but wonder if that could be the source.
No chance whatsoever, but happily eat my words :-)
My worry is Scott Allan.
Now that DU have £1.5 Mill and a disgruntled support I see another bid coming from them. Enter the ugly sisters and we have £ signs in front of Petrie's eyes and suddenly the heart is ripped out of our team yet again. I don't trust Petrie and I believe he is still at the heart of things.
Our priority is to hang on to what we have got. If DMcG becomes available push the boat out.
Dundee Utd had £3m & a disgruntled support in Jan & we told them to bolt. Since then DU have become a far less favourable option. I honestly don't understand why Hibs supporters feel the need to post these kind of fearful comments. We get enough of them from the 2 fraudster teams without spreading negativity ourselves.
Agree with this Allan and AS have both said more than once he will see out his contract .Petrie knows which side his bread is butterd
Thecat23
10-07-2015, 07:41 PM
He dropped a level to come to us before.
He wasn't getting a game and his career needed a kick start!
Joe's ice cream
10-07-2015, 07:52 PM
Dundee Utd had £3m & a disgruntled support in Jan & we told them to bolt. Since then DU have become a far less favourable option. I honestly don't understand why Hibs supporters feel the need to post these kind of fearful comments. We get enough of them from the 2 fraudster teams without spreading negativity ourselves.
100% agree with you on this - the need for some to post specletive posts and create a situation that actually hasn't arisen is a strange thing
MWHIBBIES
10-07-2015, 08:22 PM
:agree:
The fact that some on here think it's realistic is truly staggering.The fact some want him is even more staggering, absolute ****bag who I don't want near Easter Road.
Pretty Boy
10-07-2015, 08:25 PM
The fact some want him is even more staggering, absolute ****bag who I don't want near Easter Road.
Very much in agreement with this.
Don't care how good a player he is, not the type of character I want at Hibs.
mentalhibee
10-07-2015, 08:34 PM
The fact some want him is even more staggering, absolute ****bag who I don't want near Easter Road.
Class player, would take back anytime!
Stokes will cause trouble in the dressing room, he did last time he was here, no thanks.
Just Alf
10-07-2015, 09:00 PM
Nah, we're going forward, not back.
:flag:
andrew70
10-07-2015, 09:13 PM
The fact some want him is even more staggering, absolute ****bag who I don't want near Easter Road.
****bag? For standing by his beliefs!? For getting into a wee scrape or two?
In this pathetic politically correct world that we live in it allows for people to see one side of the story and immediately become judgemental. Each and every person has their flaws or perceived flaws at least.
Stokes isn't a ****bag he is though a man who has been brought up to believe in certain things and thus he behaves accordingly.
His scrapes with the media etc are nothing more than many players get into through their career, nothing serious that's for sure.
Maybe his life differs from yours but that doesn't make him a ****bag.
I'd love to see him back but it will never happen. He's better than the level we are at that's for sure.
bill the hibby
10-07-2015, 09:16 PM
Stokes has done nothing notable in the last few seasons, he is still a class above us but a no thanks from me.
bill the hibby
10-07-2015, 09:16 PM
And a no thanks from him
Green Fish
10-07-2015, 09:20 PM
****bag? For standing by his beliefs!? For getting into a wee scrape or two?
In this pathetic politically correct world that we live in it allows for people to see one side of the story and immediately become judgemental. Each and every person has their flaws or perceived flaws at least.
Stokes isn't a ****bag he is though a man who has been brought up to believe in certain things and thus he behaves accordingly.
His scrapes with the media etc are nothing more than many players get into through their career, nothing serious that's for sure.
Maybe his life differs from yours but that doesn't make him a ****bag.
I'd love to see him back but it will never happen. He's better than the level we are at that's for sure.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he reported to be taking cash from younger players for his gambling?
Thecat23
10-07-2015, 09:21 PM
****bag? For standing by his beliefs!? For getting into a wee scrape or two?
In this pathetic politically correct world that we live in it allows for people to see one side of the story and immediately become judgemental. Each and every person has their flaws or perceived flaws at least.
Stokes isn't a ****bag he is though a man who has been brought up to believe in certain things and thus he behaves accordingly.
His scrapes with the media etc are nothing more than many players get into through their career, nothing serious that's for sure.
Maybe his life differs from yours but that doesn't make him a ****bag.
I'd love to see him back but it will never happen. He's better than the level we are at that's for sure.
I'm not to fussed for his beliefs to be honest, it's the money he took from the young lads here last time and never paid a penny back to many of them! He's a huge gambler and it would be a massive risk!
But if it came down to it and his goals may take us up I'd have him for a season and if he steps out of line once I'd cancel the loan deal.
Billychaotic182
10-07-2015, 09:23 PM
And a no thanks from him
You spoke to him?
Bostonhibby
10-07-2015, 09:25 PM
****bag? For standing by his beliefs!? For getting into a wee scrape or two?
In this pathetic politically correct world that we live in it allows for people to see one side of the story and immediately become judgemental. Each and every person has their flaws or perceived flaws at least.
Stokes isn't a ****bag he is though a man who has been brought up to believe in certain things and thus he behaves accordingly.
His scrapes with the media etc are nothing more than many players get into through their career, nothing serious that's for sure.
Maybe his life differs from yours but that doesn't make him a ****bag.
I'd love to see him back but it will never happen. He's better than the level we are at that's for sure.
We seem to have a dressing room free of the sort of flaws that follow Stokes around, there might be other flaws yet to come, but I am in the no thanks camp here - an influence we don't need, he is where he belongs.
andrew70
10-07-2015, 09:35 PM
I'm not to fussed for his beliefs to be honest, it's the money he took from the young lads here last time and never paid a penny back to many of them! He's a huge gambler and it would be a massive risk!
But if it came down to it and his goals may take us up I'd have him for a season and if he steps out of line once I'd cancel the loan deal.
His wages were paid in to his old man's acct last time he was here if stories are correct. His gambling is extreme, to say the least.
The fact he took that money from them is between the players in question.
People below have said we seem to have a content dressing room now and that's what is important.
Stokes will never be back at Hibs so it's not even worth debating but as much as what happened is low - it may have been sorted now, we don't know - too call him a ****bag is beyond harsh IMO.
Thecat23
10-07-2015, 09:41 PM
His wages were paid in to his old man's acct last time he was here if stories are correct. His gambling is extreme, to say the least.
The fact he took that money from them is between the players in question.
People below have said we seem to have a content dressing room now and that's what is important.
Stokes will never be back at Hibs so it's not even worth debating but as much as what happened is low - it may have been sorted now, we don't know - too call him a ****bag is beyond harsh IMO.
I agree I don't think he will be here next season either. He won't drop down a division. I met him a couple of times through a friend and to be honest he was a really nice lad. But I've heard so many stories from others who said he's a bit of a cock. But again he won't be here so won't need to worry!
ElginHibbie
10-07-2015, 09:45 PM
His wages were paid in to his old man's acct last time he was here if stories are correct. His gambling is extreme, to say the least.
The fact he took that money from them is between the players in question.
People below have said we seem to have a content dressing room now and that's what is important.
Stokes will never be back at Hibs so it's not even worth debating but as much as what happened is low - it may have been sorted now, we don't know - too call him a ****bag is beyond harsh IMO.
If he was taking cash from younger players and not paying it back I think ****bag is actually quite tame
lord bunberry
10-07-2015, 09:50 PM
You spoke to him?
Whoosh
hfc-1875
10-07-2015, 09:51 PM
Don't know what's worse on this thread, the fact some people believe stokes is coming back. Or the fact some people are saying they wouldn't even take him back
Off the bar
10-07-2015, 09:53 PM
I'm all shook up by this talk of stokes coming back
jacomo
10-07-2015, 09:56 PM
Don't know what's worse on this thread, the fact some people believe stokes is coming back. Or the fact some people are saying they wouldn't even take him back
Definitely the former. The latter is an opinion, and it's ok if you don't agree.
hibeemikey21
10-07-2015, 10:06 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he reported to be taking cash from younger players for his gambling?
Rings a bell. I'm sure there was a rumour that Darren McCormack knocked him out over a debt on a night out
Chibs
10-07-2015, 10:16 PM
Don't know what's worse on this thread, the fact some people believe stokes is coming back. Or the fact some people are saying they wouldn't even take him back
:agree:
fishybeaver
10-07-2015, 10:26 PM
Hopefully the midfielder we are looking at is the same one playing on BT sport 2 at the moment Jorge Claros
Northernhibee
10-07-2015, 10:39 PM
Hopefully the midfielder we are looking at is the same one playing on BT sport 2 at the moment Jorge Claros
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Thecat23
10-07-2015, 10:50 PM
15139
I knew I seen him at EM 😂
Mikey09
10-07-2015, 10:53 PM
Coll Donaldson released by qpr worth a punt?
Big, strong physical centre half. Can also play full back. Bags of potential and a decent age at just 20.
Would definitely take him. Could handle the championship with ease.
HoboHarry
10-07-2015, 11:01 PM
If the goons on Yakback were discussing Hearts buying Stokes we would be laughing at them. The level of nonsense in this thread is staggering.......
B.H.F.C
10-07-2015, 11:03 PM
No chance Stokes will be at Hibs this season. Absolutely no chance.
But for all he was apparently an a*** h*** when he played with us, we had our best season in the last 10 years when he was here. 4th place and Europe.
Look where all the well behaved lads got us.
Billychaotic182
10-07-2015, 11:25 PM
Whoosh
I'm I missing something?
lord bunberry
10-07-2015, 11:49 PM
I'm I missing something?
The two Ronnie's
bill the hibby
10-07-2015, 11:51 PM
I'm I missing something?
That was a whoosh moment indeed...cite The Two Ronnies.
This is coming from a 22 year old haha. Who's name also isn't bill.
SHODAN
11-07-2015, 12:09 AM
No chance Stokes will be at Hibs this season. Absolutely no chance.
But for all he was apparently an a*** h*** when he played with us, we had our best season in the last 10 years when he was here. 4th place and Europe.
Look where all the well behaved lads got us.
Surely 06/07 was our best season in the last 10 years?
Billychaotic182
11-07-2015, 12:09 AM
That was a whoosh moment indeed...cite The Two Ronnies.
This is coming from a 22 year old haha. Who's name also isn't bill.
Ah ok I get you now lol. Sorry to begin with a thought someone might have asked him on Twitter and he responded.
The Harp Awakes
11-07-2015, 12:15 AM
Class player, would take back anytime!
:agree: without a doubt. A class player who can score goals for fun. Love to see him back.
stokesmessiah
11-07-2015, 04:40 AM
I would love it if Stokes came back, but only so my username wouldn't look so s**t for a while.
blackpoolhibs
11-07-2015, 05:28 AM
No chance Stokes will be at Hibs this season. Absolutely no chance.
But for all he was apparently an a*** h*** when he played with us, we had our best season in the last 10 years when he was here. 4th place and Europe.
Look where all the well behaved lads got us.
Yip that about sums it all up, give me a winner every time over a bunch of losers. This team may well go on and emulate or even better 4th place in the top league, until such times i will still chuckle to myself at the folk who were not happy at that achievement.
We were just very lucky. :faf:
I suppose now we've just been very unlucky? :rolleyes:
Viva_Palmeiras
11-07-2015, 05:44 AM
All top players have skelped an Elvis impersonator in their time.... :)
mikewynne
11-07-2015, 05:45 AM
:agree:
The fact that some on here think it's realistic is truly staggering.
100%
jacomo
11-07-2015, 06:49 AM
Surely 06/07 was our best season in the last 10 years?
Nah, we win cups all the time, it's not a notable achievement.
Finishing 4th though eh? Oh the glory.
Wilson
11-07-2015, 08:20 AM
All top players have skelped an Elvis impersonator in their time.... :)
Well we all want to skelp Elvis impersonators. You just have to show some self control. This applys equally to footballers.
HUTCHYHIBBY
11-07-2015, 08:38 AM
You can do anything to Elvis impersonators
but, don't step on their blue suede shoes!
tamig
11-07-2015, 09:06 AM
If the goons on Yakback were discussing Hearts buying Stokes we would be laughing at them. The level of nonsense in this thread is staggering.......
And folk coming out with "I'd take him" in relation to promising young players released by English Premier League teams. Someone mentions a name of an available player and suddenly a debate ensues as to whether said player is good enough for the Scottish Championship or not. Mental.
tamig
11-07-2015, 09:11 AM
All top players have skelped an Elvis impersonator in their time.... :)
That was Garry O. Did Stokes do one too?
The Leith Dutch
11-07-2015, 10:20 AM
Let's hope so but we'll need Keatings to get a barrowload and El Alagui to stay fit if we are to do that.
I find it interesting that a fair few folk are ignoring Cummings. League's top scorer last season and with an extra year's experience behind him and a coach and team that are better prepared and more on the same page I'd hope he's pushing 30 goals this season.
jacomo
11-07-2015, 10:27 AM
I find it interesting that a fair few folk are ignoring Cummings. League's top scorer last season and with an extra year's experience behind him and a coach and team that are better prepared and more on the same page I'd hope he's pushing 30 goals this season.
Haven't forgotten him at all, a very good reason not to sign Stokes.
The Leith Dutch
11-07-2015, 10:41 AM
We seem to have a dressing room free of the sort of flaws that follow Stokes around, there might be other flaws yet to come, but I am in the no thanks camp here - an influence we don't need, he is where he belongs.
This.
He'd undoubtedly get goals but given that I think we can get promoted with the goals the strikers we have will score I'd prefer we didn't take a step back after a lot of good work to sort out the dressing room culture.
andrew70
11-07-2015, 10:46 AM
I find it interesting that a fair few folk are ignoring Cummings. League's top scorer last season and with an extra year's experience behind him and a coach and team that are better prepared and more on the same page I'd hope he's pushing 30 goals this season.
Not forgotten about him at all, he would have been the leagues top scorer by a country mile though if he had taken all his chances.
Hopefully he will, with a years more experience, take more than approx 1 in 8 chances. Keatings coming in and scoring goals would help the whole strike-force as there was a lot of pressure on them (Cummings and Malonga) last season to be the ones who got us promoted.
The Leith Dutch
11-07-2015, 11:08 AM
Not forgotten about him at all, he would have been the leagues top scorer by a country mile though if he had taken all his chances.
Hopefully he will, with a years more experience, take more than approx 1 in 8 chances. Keatings coming in and scoring goals would help the whole strike-force as there was a lot of pressure on them (Cummings and Malonga) last season to be the ones who got us promoted.
I think the fact that we have four strikers and you'd probably find plenty takers for each possible up front combination is a very healthy sign.
Certainly won't do Cummings any harm to have serious competition (Keatings especially as you say).
Also good that they each have different attributes.
I can see the possibility of 3 of the four on the pitch at the same time with Malonga sitting deeper and feeding the other two.
On a tangent - that's one of my favourite things about Stubbs - he seems to be intent on getting a few different ways to play drilled into the team and with a full pre-season with players who are much more familiar with one another it should be a good sign.
Jpdhfc
11-07-2015, 12:08 PM
Big, strong physical centre half. Can also play full back. Bags of potential and a decent age at just 20.
Would definitely take him. Could handle the championship with ease.
Not for me
jdships
11-07-2015, 02:02 PM
Big, strong physical centre half. Can also play full back. Bags of potential and a decent age at just 20.
Would definitely take him. Could handle the championship with ease.
A 20 year old C/B ?- we have at least two in the developement side who are knocking on the door !!
Theinsider
11-07-2015, 02:34 PM
On route to la manga with the wife and kids. Stopping off for the essentials of beers and sandwiches.
Will keep you guys posted as much as possible.
Billy Whizz
11-07-2015, 02:38 PM
On route to la manga with the wife and kids. Stopping off for the essentials of beers and sandwiches.
Will keep you guys posted as much as possible.
Are you able to get into the game tonight? Spoke to someone yesterday who was going to go down for the weekend, but Hibs said yes and then no, so they didn't book their flight
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