Hibs transfer thread (Last Day Update - Anier / Feruz (both loan) in, None out)

[Nutmegged]

People need to remember last season was McGeouch's first full Season playing Pro Football, he did fade in the last 6 weeks of the Seaaon but thats a lot to do with the injury plus natural fatigue, people saying he wasn't effective are being disingenuous, getting McGeouch back would be just as vital as getting Fontaine back

[bingo70]

I think Dylan is a cracking player, who up until his injury was our main man as he was more consistent at that point than Scott. I do think he needed to play further up the field to best utilise his strengths as he tended to come deep to pick up the ball, but that may be because Scotty became the main man in midfield.I would like him to come back but feel we need a bit more of a physical presence if we only have 1 more coming in in midfield.

I actually don't think Mcgeoch and Allan played well together, not sure why but I think both had their best games or spells when the other one wasn't playing.

[Pray4Marc]

So what, if anything, is happening with holt, mccabe and halliday


Jason was offered a contract by Hearts but turned it down due to reduced terms and he wasn't guaranteed 1st team football. There has been no offer from Hibs, not even an enquiry. Its amazing when you see these wild rumours snowball. He is currently in Portugal.

[HibbyAndy]

Jason was offered a contract by Hearts but turned it down due to reduced terms and he wasn't guaranteed 1st team football. There has been no offer from Hibs, not even an enquiry. Its amazing when you see these wild rumours snowball. He is currently in Portugal.


:hmmm:

[Billy Whizz]

Good interview with Stubbs on Hibs TV. Clarifies a few things about Stanton and Handling, but no mention of Harris. Confirmed that Celtic have resigned McGeough, but hasn't ruled out him coming back to Hibs

[GordonHFC]

Jason was offered a contract by Hearts but turned it down due to reduced terms and he wasn't guaranteed 1st team football. There has been no offer from Hibs, not even an enquiry. Its amazing when you see these wild rumours snowball. He is currently in Portugal.

He wasn't in Portugal at the weekend. He was talking to my daughter on Saturday night and has not long returned from Greece.

[CmoantheHibs]

I actually don't think Mcgeoch and Allan played well together, not sure why but I think both had their best games or spells when the other one wasn't playing.

You may have a point as they both have qualities which are best utilised in the final 3rd and most teams realised that we were going to dominate possesion but were vulnerable to counter attacks so they sat in and closed the space.Its all about balance and I think we defo need a physical presence in midfield.He doesnt have to be a starter every week but to bring someone on to help close out a game could help no end.

[Leith Mo]

Jason was offered a contract by Hearts but turned it down due to reduced terms and he wasn't guaranteed 1st team football. There has been no offer from Hibs, not even an enquiry. Its amazing when you see these wild rumours snowball. He is currently in Portugal.

Confirms what i was told by a former team mate and agent a month ago but as I said earlier might have changed and happy to ne wrong. Think he'd do a job

[Franck Stanton]

Dylan is a very good footballer and would enhance our squad no end. I for one hope we sign him. Good player.

[Hermit Crab]

Jason was offered a contract by Hearts but turned it down due to reduced terms and he wasn't guaranteed 1st team football. There has been no offer from Hibs, not even an enquiry. Its amazing when you see these wild rumours snowball. He is currently in Portugal.


Underscore, do you know anything about this ^^^^???

[hibees 7062]

Dylan is a very good footballer and would enhance our squad no end. I for one hope we sign him. Good player.

He's playing in the SPL next season

[Del Boy]

He's playing in the SPL next season

With who?

[Beefster]

Jason was offered a contract by Hearts but turned it down due to reduced terms and he wasn't guaranteed 1st team football. There has been no offer from Hibs, not even an enquiry. Its amazing when you see these wild rumours snowball. He is currently in Portugal.


He wasn't in Portugal at the weekend. He was talking to my daughter on Saturday night and has not long returned from Greece.

I'm going to be honest, lads. This is shaking my worldview that you can believe everything you read on the Intersuperwebway.

[Jim44]

Good interview with Stubbs on Hibs TV. Clarifies a few things about Stanton and Handling, but no mention of Harris. Confirmed that Celtic have resigned McGeough, but hasn't ruled out him coming back to Hibs

The chances of getting him on loan again may have diminished because we have sent out a signal to Celtic and Sevco that Scott Allan is not available. They'll be in the powder puff with us.

[Baldy Foghorn]

The chances of getting him on loan again may have diminished because we have sent out a signal to Celtic and Sevco that Scott Allan is not available. They'll be in the powder puff with us.

I'd rather that we had SA than DM if I'm honest

[hibees 7062]

With who?

Trying to find out

[Jim44]

I'd rather that we had SA than DM if I'm honest

Without a shadow of doubt.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Without a shadow of doubt.

And the additional bonus of letting Rantic know we are not pushovers anymore.....

[Brightside]

Underscore, do you know anything about this ^^^^???

They have certainly talked! No idea about his holiday plans!

[KWJ]

Good interview with Stubbs on Hibs TV. Clarifies a few things about Stanton and Handling, but no mention of Harris. Confirmed that Celtic have resigned McGeough, but hasn't ruled out him coming back to Hibs

What was the script with Stanton and Handling?

[Ozyhibby]

What was the script with Stanton and Handling?

Going by that interview they have been told they can leave.

[Nutmegged]

Jason was offered a contract by Hearts but turned it down due to reduced terms and he wasn't guaranteed 1st team football. There has been no offer from Hibs, not even an enquiry. Its amazing when you see these wild rumours snowball. He is currently in Portugal.

Simply not true

[high bee]

Going by that interview they have been told they can leave.

What did he say? I'm at work so can't get the video.

[Brightside]

Going by that interview they have been told they can leave.

If they want 100% first team football. Honest from Stubbs. Up to the players to step up or leave. Lets see how the first few bounce games go.

[B.H.F.C]

What did he say? I'm at work so can't get the video.

He said that we've been up front with them and told their agents that we can't guarentee them a game. If they want to stay and fight for their place that would be great but if they want to look elsewhere fair enough.

[DH1875]

Simply not true

The plot thickens.

[Pretty Boy]

He said that we've been up front with them and told their agents that we can't guarentee them a game. If they want to stay and fight for their place that would be great but if they want to look elsewhere fair enough.

Makes that 4 year contract seem all the more bizarre.

Still don't understand that one at all.

[high bee]

He said that we've been up front with them and told their agents that we can't guarentee them a game. If they want to stay and fight for their place that would be great but if they want to look elsewhere fair enough.

Wow, refreshing honesty these days. I guess Handling won't be our DM this year then.

[Billy Whizz]

Wow, refreshing honesty these days. I guess Handling won't be our DM this year then.

Or he's laying down a challenge to them

[Ozyhibby]

Wow, refreshing honesty these days. I guess Handling won't be our DM this year then.

Also means there is likely to be another couple of midfielders coming in.

[Ozyhibby]

Or he's laying down a challenge to them

Didn't sound like that Billy.

[Bostonhibby]

Makes that 4 year contract seem all the more bizarre.

Still don't understand that one at all.

For what its worth, I thought Tel boy was hoping to hang about for a while so randomly did something that could be construed as long term planning - it could have been anyone he landed on - Handling is a decent player who has been mis managed during a bad period for the club but he has the luxury of a contract.

If he chose to stay and fight despite the comfort a contract brings I think he could replicate the potential that has been shown at international level and Hibs gain for once, otherwise could be another Wotherspoon who might achieve a bit more after he's gone.

[Fergos]

Good management from Stubbsy on the Handling Stanton line. Up your performances and you might play basically. Both have undoubted talent but yet to realise it, hope they both rise to the challenge preferably at ER but could be elsewhere.

GGTTH

[Ronniekirk]

Wow, refreshing honesty these days. I guess Handling won't be our DM this year then.
So on that basis we must have someone liined up to come in especially if they both depart.

[overdrive]

I'd actually rather keep McGeough than Allan controversially!

[Gmack7]

Or he's laying down a challenge to them

and i hope they both step up.i think both these lads could go on to have good careers at hibs

[Ozyhibby]

I think if the plan was to motivate them there would be no need to involve their agents.
I think they will be away.

[Del Boy]

I'd actually rather keep McGeough than Allan controversially!

On first half of the season I'd probably agree actually

[AT8]

For what its worth, I thought Tel boy was hoping to hang about for a while so randomly did something that could be construed as long term planning - it could have been anyone he landed on - Handling is a decent player who has been mis managed during a bad period for the club but he has the luxury of a contract.

If he chose to stay and fight despite the comfort a contract brings I think he could replicate the potential that has been shown at international level and Hibs gain for once, otherwise could be another Wotherspoon who might achieve a bit more after he's gone.

I think it was AS that gave him the four year contract. Makes it even more strange.

[Billy Whizz]

Didn't sound like that Billy.

Maybe not, but maybe the agent asked the question. Think Sammy's agent is medals McKay, not sure about Danny though

[monktonharp]

Dylan is a very good footballer and would enhance our squad no end. I for one hope we sign him. Good player.:agree:

[Ronniekirk]

Or he's laying down a challenge to them

We can't afford both to stay if neither does step up to claim a first team place ,and as he has made it clear he can't guarantee a starting place for either of them he must have at least one other midfielder lined up to bring in you would think so writing could be on the wall for one of them ,Thistle and St Mirren both interested in Stanton so he has options by the look of it

[Bostonhibby]

I think it was AS that gave him the four year contract. Makes it even more strange.

You're right. maybe Tel was a genius after all...............................

[monktonharp]

For what its worth, I thought Tel boy was hoping to hang about for a while so randomly did something that could be construed as long term planning - it could have been anyone he landed on - Handling is a decent player who has been mis managed during a bad period for the club but he has the luxury of a contract.

If he chose to stay and fight despite the comfort a contract brings I think he could replicate the potential that has been shown at international level and Hibs gain for once, otherwise could be another Wotherspoon who might achieve a bit more after he's gone.for me, he is another Wotherspoon. he gets up to a level, looks like he's about to do it, but then people say that he was "played out of position" or "only had 10 minutes of the game" etc etc. he needs to stand up, get in about what's actually going on around him, or he will be cast adrift.I don't see it happening, to be honest

[monktonharp]

We can't afford both to stay if neither does step up to claim a first team place ,and as he has made it clear he can't guarantee a starting place for either of them he must have at least one other midfielder lined up to bring in you would think so writing could be on the wall for one of them ,Thistle and St Mirren both interested in Stanton so he has options by the look of itStanton........the name suggests that it's a given, that he will turn the corner very soon. seriously wish and hope it does, but it's up to the player himself to impose his presence on games. he has scored some crackers for us but like his compadre Handling , he needs to step up to the plate.they both look like football players, probably talk like football players and I do hope they walk like football players this season if they are given a chance(possibly their last ).

[Bostonhibby]

for me, he is another Wotherspoon. he gets up to a level, looks like he's about to do it, but then people say that he was "played out of position" or "only had 10 minutes of the game" etc etc. he needs to stand up, get in about what's actually going on around him, or he will be cast adrift.I don't see it happening, to be honest

:agree: Hoping you are wrong, but not a lot of time for sentiment.

[Smartie]

I'd actually rather keep McGeough than Allan controversially!

I'll agree with you as long as you pass me the crackpipe next.

[Billy Whizz]

for me, he is another Wotherspoon. he gets up to a level, looks like he's about to do it, but then people say that he was "played out of position" or "only had 10 minutes of the game" etc etc. he needs to stand up, get in about what's actually going on around him, or he will be cast adrift.I don't see it happening, to be honest

You mean Wotherspoon who's playing in a top 6 side, who've qualified for Europe again, and has a Scottish Cup winners medal. Not bad for a Hibs cast off

[Smartie]

I thought Handling did quite well during that run of games that he started. He was very good in one or two (Dumbarton away and The Rangers at home) and competent in the rest of them. More importantly the team did generally well with him in there.

The only poor game I thought he had was one at Easter Road (I can't remember who against but we didn't win the game, roughly February I think) when he went on as sub and completely failed to impose himself on the game. I don't think he's an impact player but does quite well when he starts games and I wouldn't be against him staying.

I thought the opposite was true of Stanton. He made a major impact on some games as sub (Dumbarton at home in the league cup and Raith away at Christmas) when his direct running and cutting in from the right lifted us back into games that we were previously toiling in. Having said that he totally failed to take any of the opportunities presented to him when he was restored to the starting line-up.


Neither of them exactly let us down last season but neither of them exactly set the heather on fire. I think Stubbs is spot on - they are welcome to stay and fight and if either of them take the opportunity then great. But they cannot be given any guarantees given how high the stakes are for us next season.

We cannot afford to carry any passengers and we need people we can rely on to perform when called upon at any time.

[Brightside]

Goalie tomorrow I'm told....if not it will be Monday (they don't do them on Sat!)

[monktonharp]

You mean Wotherspoon who's playing in a top 6 side, who've qualified for Europe again, and has a Scottish Cup winners medal. Not bad for a Hibs cast offAye, I do mean him! and lots of Hibs fans will agree, that he was a bit player and his performances at times were sheite. delighted for the sainties to get the elusive Scottish cup ( in HFC terms) and I think you are being more than a bit naughty, dragging that up, smacks of BBC/RAMMAN /DAILY RECORD standards to me so you can get tae.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Goalie tomorrow I'm told....if not it will be Monday (they don't do them on Sat!)

Oxley?

[carnoustiehibee]

Goalie tomorrow I'm told....if not it will be Monday (they don't do them on Sat!)

Ah come on, Stubbs said himself on the video that were close to signing a goalie. Also said Stanton and Handling would be better moving on when you've been banging on about Handling starting defensive "doble pivot" midfielder.give up

[Ronniekirk]

Aye, I do mean him! and lots of Hibs fans will agree, that he was a bit player and his performances at times were sheite. delighted for the sainties to get the elusive Scottish cup ( in HFC terms) and I think you are being more than a bit naughty, dragging that up, smacks of BBC/RAMMAN /DAILY RECORD standards to me so you can get tae.

Billy goes to all the development games so has a soft spot for players that have come through our system ,although I think we got him from Celtics youth system if memory serves me right But it is. Mystery how players that don't stand out for us do often move and do better else where As for the Scottish Cup ,yogi as Manager wins it at first time of asking with Inverness , it pisses me off big style but our time will come :rolleyes:.

[overdrive]

I'll agree with you as long as you pass me the crackpipe next.

My issue with Allan is his passing. For all he makes a killer pass now and then he fails to find his man 8 out of 10 times. I guess if he wasn't like that he wouldn't be with us. Mcgeough has less tendency to give up when tackled.

[Brightside]

Ah come on, Stubbs said himself on the video that were close to signing a goalie. Also said Stanton and Handling would be better moving on when you've been banging on about Handling starting defensive "doble pivot" midfielder.give up

OK. Lets see if Handling plays in the first few games. Stubbs has laid it down for a few players. For me there is nothing wrong with what he's said...if they want a place they have to step up. I personally think Handling will, and based on chats i think Stubbs wants him in that role. If he doesn't step up its clear he'll go. Re. Goalie. Williams will cost more than Oxley. Another Championship (Eng) goalie is close. Despite what others have said the Hearts boy is under discussion but there is also a more experienced English player being discussed with his club. Budget will decide on final call.

[truehibernian]

OK. Lets see if Handling plays in the first few games. Stubbs has laid it down for a few players. For me there is nothing wrong with what he's said...if they want a place they have to step up. I personally think Handling will, and based on chats i think Stubbs wants him in that role. If he doesn't step up its clear he'll go. Re. Goalie. Williams will cost more than Oxley. Another Championship (Eng) goalie is close. Despite what others have said the Hearts boy is under discussion but there is also a more experienced English player being discussed with his club. Budget will decide on final call.

Giles Coke ?

[Smartie]

My issue with Allan is his passing. For all he makes a killer pass now and then he fails to find his man 8 out of 10 times. I guess if he wasn't like that he wouldn't be with us. Mcgeough has less tendency to give up when tackled.

All fair points. Sorry, my sarcastic comment was harsh in the extreme.

Different people will see different benefits in different players and make a call on who they like more. I mentioned on a thread a while back about a mate of mine who supports Brechin and occasionally comes with me to see Hibs. He reckons he is yet to see Allan play well, cannot see what all the fuss is about because all he does is give the ball away. I strongly disagree but there you go.

The truth is you need a bit of everything in a team. I like that Allan tries the tricky ball albeit it may not always come off and he would be hampered as a player if he had to rein it in (although I think a few extra easy balls instead of the World Cup ball every time would help his game).

McGeoch is a good player. I just prefer Scott Allan.

[The_Exile]

My issue with Allan is his passing. For all he makes a killer pass now and then he fails to find his man 8 out of 10 times. I guess if he wasn't like that he wouldn't be with us. Mcgeough has less tendency to give up when tackled.

No player hits his man 100%. Some of his assists last year were stunning passes. The thing with Scott is that, yes, lot of the passes he tries will end up coming to nothing but I'm sure even Stubbs is on record as saying he can forgive that and actively encourages speculative passes whilst in an attacking phase of play. Can't seem to remember too many times he lost the ball due to carelessness, it's always trying to create something which is absolutely fine with me.

[cabbageandribs1875]

I think it was AS that gave him the four year contract. Makes it even more strange.


iirc AS was only in the door a week or so when DH got that 4 year contract, strange one at the time and still strange now, own up whoever it was that did it

[J-C]

Handling's contract may have been agreed prior to Stubbs coming in, so it sounds like from his interview he's happy to let them leave if they want and he'll lose no sleep over it, it sounded all matter of fact and business like. TBH he probably feels they are 2 very talented lads who should've helped more last season when given the opportunity but seeing as they didn't take it, he needs back up on the bench that can either win a game or contributes more than they did, I must admit apart from a few fleeting glimpses I was very disappointed in both Stanton and Handling. They are only about a year younger than Allan and Fyvie but there is a world of a difference between them on the park, they just haven't improved over the course of a whole season and given the top coaching that is a big disappointment. I also noticed nothing was mentioned re Harris, so I take it Stubbs sees a future for him this season.

[TheFamous1875]

My issue with Allan is his passing. For all he makes a killer pass now and then he fails to find his man 8 out of 10 times. I guess if he wasn't like that he wouldn't be with us. Mcgeough has less tendency to give up when tackled.

I think with both Boyle and Carmichael on either side of the pitch, 4 of those 8 failed passes will be a success. What I want to see is a 'destroyer' brought in. A central-defensive midfielder who doesn't take any **** - gets stuck in get the ball and gives it to Allan and Fyvie to attack and protects the back four. I think that's our main priority other than a goalie.

A #10 would be good too, but I can't see us playing with a player 'in the hole' next season with both Allan and Fyvie bound to start (alongside both/either Boyle and Carmichael). I don't think Allan's #10, I think he's much better suited with the match in front of him, picking passes and seeing openings.

Personally, the player to me who seems most suited to the #10 role in the team is Malonga.

[spike220]

I think with both Boyle and Carmichael on either side of the pitch, 4 of those 8 failed passes will be a success. What I want to see is a 'destroyer' brought in. A central-defensive midfielder who doesn't take any **** - gets stuck in get the ball and gives it to Allan and Fyvie to attack and protects the back four. I think that's our main priority other than a goalie.

A #10 would be good too, but I can't see us playing with a player 'in the hole' next season with both Allan and Fyvie bound to start (alongside both/either Boyle and Carmichael). I don't think Allan's #10, I think he's much better suited with the match in front of him, picking passes and seeing openings.

Personally, the player to me who seems most suited to the #10 role in the team is Malonga.

Gary Deegan is the only recent Hibs player that fits this bill. I dont think he ever got the credit he was due for toughening up our midfield.

[Squealing pig]

Id take ox back even though not great knows the defence and less of a risk u could say.

[Smartie]

Gary Deegan is the only recent Hibs player that fits this bill. I dont think he ever got the credit he was due for toughening up our midfield.

He did very well for us until he got injured. He was a shadow of his former self after that, unfortunately.

[brog]

I think with both Boyle and Carmichael on either side of the pitch, 4 of those 8 failed passes will be a success. What I want to see is a 'destroyer' brought in. A central-defensive midfielder who doesn't take any **** - gets stuck in get the ball and gives it to Allan and Fyvie to attack and protects the back four. I think that's our main priority other than a goalie.

A #10 would be good too, but I can't see us playing with a player 'in the hole' next season with both Allan and Fyvie bound to start (alongside both/either Boyle and Carmichael). I don't think Allan's #10, I think he's much better suited with the match in front of him, picking passes and seeing openings.

Personally, the player to me who seems most suited to the #10 role in the team is Malonga.

We may need such a player long term but I don't see it for next season. The best Hibs team I've seen, the Tornadoes, didn't have a destroyer & of the midfield 4 ( inc Arthur & Mickey ) only King Pat & Crops actually knew how to tackle. I know football's moved on a lot since then but for the great majority of our games next season we'll have a surplus of possession & we'll need guile & creativity to beat packed defences, not a destroyer. FWIW I think we'll mainly go 3 at the back next season & have a diamond midfield with Fyvie at the bottom & Allan at the top. Fyvie has huge energy, is much more disciplined defensively than either SA or ( the presumably departed ) DM & I expect him to be the player AS builds the team around this season.

[Weststandwanab]

Eh? Arguably our best player last season (before his injury anyway).

Are you serious?


I actually don't think Mcgeoch and Allan played well together, not sure why but I think both had their best games or spells when the other one wasn't playing.

I agree with that opinion.


My issue with Allan is his passing. For all he makes a killer pass now and then he fails to find his man 8 out of 10 times. I guess if he wasn't like that he wouldn't be with us. Mcgeough has less tendency to give up when tackled.

I disagree many times other players do not make runs that SA's passes require. SA sees them very quickly but when in sync a joy to watch.


He did very well for us until he got injured. He was a shadow of his former self after that, unfortunately.

I too think that injury was a factor.

[PeterboroHibee]

My issue with Allan is his passing. For all he makes a killer pass now and then he fails to find his man 8 out of 10 times. I guess if he wasn't like that he wouldn't be with us. Mcgeough has less tendency to give up when tackled.

Do you mean in general or trying to make the killer pass? I think his passing is actually very good, he keeps it simple and Id say hes one of our better players for his general composure on the ball. He will give it away more when attempting to create chances, but the nature of that sort of role means that things wont always work (probably more often than not in fact!).

[QMU-1875]

Anyone else slightly worried that David Gray has been made captain and yet we look best playing the 3-5-2 with Martin Boyle at right wing back? Or would people play Gray as part of the centre halfs?

[CentreLine]

We may need such a player long term but I don't see it for next season. The best Hibs team I've seen, the Tornadoes, didn't have a destroyer & of the midfield 4 ( inc Arthur & Mickey ) only King Pat & Crops actually knew how to tackle. I know football's moved on a lot since then but for the great majority of our games next season we'll have a surplus of possession & we'll need guile & creativity to beat packed defences, not a destroyer. FWIW I think we'll mainly go 3 at the back next season & have a diamond midfield with Fyvie at the bottom & Allan at the top. Fyvie has huge energy, is much more disciplined defensively than either SA or ( the presumably departed ) DM & I expect him to be the player AS builds the team around this season.

If anything I saw John Blackley was the "destroyer" in Tirnbull's team in his sweeping roll he had plenty of scope to break things up and he certainly knew how to place a pass in the path of our creative players.

[number9dream]

Good interview with Stubbs on Hibs TV. Clarifies a few things about Stanton and Handling, but no mention of Harris. Confirmed that Celtic have resigned McGeough, but hasn't ruled out him coming back to Hibs

Why would Celtic commit to paying McGeouch's wages for another year just to send him away on loan?
They'll either want to give him one last chance or use him as a makeweight in a transfer deal.
While he was good for us, I don't really see him forcing his way into the Celtic starting line up.

[B.H.F.C]

Anyone else slightly worried that David Gray has been made captain and yet we look best playing the 3-5-2 with Martin Boyle at right wing back? Or would people play Gray as part of the centre halfs?

I can't see us playing 352 very often. We don't need to play with 3 centre halves, especially at home, when teams hardly leave anyone up the pitch. Might play it occasionally, like against Rangers, but not throughout the season.

And even if we do play 352 I'd play Gray ahead of Boyle every time.

[Hibs History]

Why would Celtic commit to paying McGeouch's wages for another year just to send him away on loan?
They'll either want to give him one last chance or use him as a makeweight in a transfer deal.
While he was good for us, I don't really see him forcing his way into the Celtic starting line up.

So they can use him as a bargaining chip to get Scott Allan!!!!!

Conspiracy theory overload!

Or to simply stop any other team in Scotland from getting a great player! Celtic have enough money to do business this way!

[Brooster]

I would be surprised if a goalie wasn't announced today. The squad fly to La Manga on Sunday and I would think Stubbsy would like a goalie in place before heading off.

[brog]

[QUOTE=B.H.F.C;4403396]I can't see us playing 352 very often. We don't need to play with 3 centre halves, especially at home, when teams hardly leave anyone up the pitch.


I think that's exactly when we'll play 3 at the back, not necessarily 3 centre halves though I think we'll see Forster, Hanlon & Fontaine there quite often. That allows DG & LS to play very high up the park giving us the width we need. It is quite possible though that for some games we'll see effectively a 2-5-3 a 2-4-4 or even a 2-6-2 formation. I think we have an extremely flexible squad with nearly every player able to perform in 2 or more positions which I believe is AS' vision.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I would be surprised if a goalie wasn't announced today. The squad fly to La Manga on Sunday and I would think Stubbsy would like a goalie in place before heading off.

Its next Sunday Brooster

[ManBearPig]

I can see Alan trying the 4-3-3 again (sure he tried it at beginning of last season. Or 4-3-2-1.

[Heisenberg]

I can see Alan trying the 4-3-3 again (sure he tried it at beginning of last season. Or 4-3-2-1.

I would agree. We started playing it at the end of the season and did well until Boyle got injured and we had to change again.

[Brooster]

Its next Sunday Brooster

My aplogies if thats the case mate. Still expect a goalie to come in today.

[Ronniekirk]

[QUOTE=B.H.F.C;4403396]I can't see us playing 352 very often. We don't need to play with 3 centre halves, especially at home, when teams hardly leave anyone up the pitch.



I think that's exactly when we'll play 3 at the back, not necessarily 3 centre halves though I think we'll see Forster, Hanlon & Fontaine there quite often. That allows DG & LS to play very high up the park giving us the width we need. It is quite possible though that for some games we'll see effectively a 2-5-3 a 2-4-4 or even a 2-6-2 formation. I think we have an extremely flexible squad with nearly every player able to perform in 2 or more positions which I believe is AS' vision.

And it's a long time since we were able to say we had a Manager with Vision .I agree with Flexibility of players interchanging positions and being comfortable with the ball and in the playoff game at ibrox in the first half we were like that and playing with confidence Its when it doesn't lead to a goal and we then lost one that we tended to struggle big style in some games to reassert ourselves and have a plan B to break down packed defences .Had Farid and Boyle and Foster all been fit and on form maybe things would have turned out differently , but I am now starting to get excited about the new season before we have even assembled a full squad ,so Stubbs and back room staff ,ably assisted by Leeann s Stewardship of the Club is a breath of fresh air in comparison to the last six or seven pre seasons .
Still in the Championship of course ,and am even looking forward to a return trip to Cowdenbeath no matter what the Weather ,and Greenock Morton is a ground Where we will be exposed to the Elements as well ,but bring it on .Am hoping we can do what Hearts did and come out and put a sequence of back to back wins on the board early and let Rangers and anyone else know we are in it to win it
The playoffs as we have seen demand a big squad and no injuries and suspensions and fit players That could still be our Achilles heel if it came to that so let's concentrate on winning it this time round

[B.H.F.C]

[QUOTE=B.H.F.C;4403396]I can't see us playing 352 very often. We don't need to play with 3 centre halves, especially at home, when teams hardly leave anyone up the pitch.


I think that's exactly when we'll play 3 at the back, not necessarily 3 centre halves though I think we'll see Forster, Hanlon & Fontaine there quite often. That allows DG & LS to play very high up the park giving us the width we need. It is quite possible though that for some games we'll see effectively a 2-5-3 a 2-4-4 or even a 2-6-2 formation. I think we have an extremely flexible squad with nearly every player able to perform in 2 or more positions which I believe is AS' vision.

With the number of attacking players we have I just can't see us playing with 3 at the back often. 4 at the back with your full backs pushing well on is more likely for me. I think we'll more likely see us playing with 433 similar to the last two games of the league season against Alloa and Falkirk.

Our problem last year in a lot of home games was breaking teams down so I dont see the need to be asking centre halves to be stepping out trying to play when we have players further up the park that can do it for us.

I do agree though that we'll have plenty flexibility

[Brightside]

Anyone else slightly worried that David Gray has been made captain and yet we look best playing the 3-5-2 with Martin Boyle at right wing back? Or would people play Gray as part of the centre halfs?

Id rather have Boyle on the left, I like him cutting in and shooting.

[PeterboroHibee]

Anyone else slightly worried that David Gray has been made captain and yet we look best playing the 3-5-2 with Martin Boyle at right wing back? Or would people play Gray as part of the centre halfs?

I think with Carmichael and Boyle signing, as well as Harris apparently being part of first team plans we'll be using wingers this season. In that respect, I imagine we wont be using 352 very much (although I think it will still be effective on occasions).

[Andy74]

So Stubbs didn't have some sort of masterplan to unleash Danny Handling into a new role that only the enlightened could see was made for him after all?

[Billy Whizz]

So Stubbs didn't have some sort of masterplan to unleash Danny Handling into a new role that only the enlightened could see was made for him after all?

Nice to see you continually bashing our young players

[Iain G]

So Stubbs didn't have some sort of masterplan to unleash Danny Handling into a new role that only the enlightened could see was made for him after all?

The enlightened including our development team management and the Scotland U21 management? :greengrin

Maybe that deep midfield position does suit him better and Stubbs has challenged him and Stanton to push themselves on this season?

[Brightside]

So Stubbs didn't have some sort of masterplan to unleash Danny Handling into a new role that only the enlightened could see was made for him after all?

I liked you better when you were just sticking up for the eye bleeding football of Fenlon. Now its just constant digs.

[bigwheel]

The enlightened including our development team management and the Scotland U21 management? :greengrin

Maybe that deep midfield position does suit him better and Stubbs has challenged him and Stanton to push themselves on this season?


After listening to the Hibs TV interview yesterday..it sounds like Stubbs has told their agents they are welcome to stay and fight for regular football, but if they want to definitely play regularly they may be best to move on....

[berwickhibee]

could we be thinking of playing david gray in the holding central midfield role?? as captain gets him right in the thick of the play and with boyle,forster and dunsmore capable of covering the right side whatever formation we play.

[Brightside]

could we be thinking of playing david gray in the holding central midfield role?? as captain gets him right in the thick of the play and with boyle,forster and dunsmore capable of covering the right side whatever formation we play.

Nope. Gray has far to much energy to be held in that role. He's a excellent right back - playing him anywhere else would be a waste. Boyle wont play many full games...he's an impact player.

[jacomo]

He did very well for us until he got injured. He was a shadow of his former self after that, unfortunately.

:agree:

[Andy74]

Nice to see you continually bashing our young players

Steady. My comment was more around the tone of the posts that were suggesting that we were all daft if we couldn't see that Danny Handling was a natural sitting midfielder and that we were all missing a plan that Stubbs had in mind in this respect.

I'm pretty sure you know its never been my style to bash any of our players, particulalry not young ones, but the reality also is that recently we have had players that aren't good enough and when they reach a stage that they aren't making any impact then it is time to move on.

I think Handling, Stanton and Harris all fall into that category. That's not bashing them, that's my realistic asesement on whether they are good enough to play for Hibs.

[E10 Rifle]

Ah come on, Stubbs said himself on the video that were close to signing a goalie. Also said Stanton and Handling would be better moving on when you've been banging on about Handling starting defensive "doble pivot" midfielder.give up

:greengrin (p.s. I heard 48 or 72 hours for a goalie from a source close to the club)

[Andy74]

I liked you better when you were just sticking up for the eye bleeding football of Fenlon. Now its just constant digs.

So you prefer it when you can give me abuse but not when I choose to be critical of something myself? Tough.

What are the constant digs you refer to though? At the moment the only things I can think of that I have an issue with is that our young players aren't good enough and should move on and that we are still a decent way short of last season until we sign 4 or 5 players. Other than that I'm quite happy with what's going on.

I'm normally criticised for being too positive, I think maybe some of you just don't really take well to being disagreed with?

[Billychaotic182]

So Stubbs didn't have some sort of masterplan to unleash Danny Handling into a new role that only the enlightened could see was made for him after all?

Why do some fans love up put the boot into young players. Nothing like being overly negative mate! That's where Danny played for the development squad and the Scotland under 21s so some people rate him in that role.

[berwickhibee]

Nope. Gray has far to much energy to be held in that role. He's a excellent right back - playing him anywhere else would be a waste. Boyle wont play many full games...he's an impact player.

interesting, too much energy for playing a position where robertsons main attribute was his energy:greengrin

[Andy74]

Why do some fans love up put the boot into young players. Nothing like being overly negative mate! That's where Danny played for the development squad and the Scotland under 21s so some people rate him in that role.

I think some of you need to be less sensitive.

Having a view on whether someone is good enough or not is not the same as sticking the boot in.

As I said above my comment was more the way others had been suggested were were all blatantly missing some plan that Stubbs had for Handling. It doesn't appear that he does and that he agrees he needs to do more to be good enough to play.

[Ozyhibby]

I think all three will be moved on as they really need games at this stage in their career.
Imo they are not good enough for Hibs although I had previously thought Handling could step up, he has not grabbed his chance.

[matty_f]

I think some of you need to be less sensitive.

Having a view on whether someone is good enough or not is not the same as sticking the boot in.

As I said above my comment was more the way others had been suggested were were all blatantly missing some plan that Stubbs had for Handling. It doesn't appear that he does and that he agrees he needs to do more to be good enough to play.

FWIW, I agree with you Andy and get where you're coming from. I think it's fine to have an opinion that a player needs to step up to be at a level where they're good enough for Hibs.

I don't think that's putting the boot in, that's just an opinion.

[Brightside]

So you prefer it when you can give me abuse but not when I choose to be critical of something myself? Tough.

What are the constant digs you refer to though? At the moment the only things I can think of that I have an issue with is that our young players aren't good enough and should move on and that we are still a decent way short of last season until we sign 4 or 5 players. Other than that I'm quite happy with what's going on.

I'm normally criticised for being too positive, I think maybe some of you just don't really take well to being disagreed with?

Ive never given you abuse... You have been digging up the quality of the squad for weeks now and saying its not good enough. Yet you were happy with the imposter footballers we used to have?

[Billy Whizz]

I think all three will be moved on as they really need games at this stage in their career.
Imo they are not good enough for Hibs although I had previously thought Handling could step up, he has not grabbed his chance.

Ozy, they really haven't had much of a chance of late, very limited starts and a few late cameo appearances. At their age they need to play, a loan would be good for 2 of them, but I'd keep at least 1

[Brightside]

interesting, too much energy for playing a position where robertsons main attribute was his energy:greengrin

Really - the same player who used to have cramp all the time?? Gray's runs up and down the wing are the best part of his game...I'd hate the team to lose that.

[Billy Whizz]

Steady. My comment was more around the tone of the posts that were suggesting that we were all daft if we couldn't see that Danny Handling was a natural sitting midfielder and that we were all missing a plan that Stubbs had in mind in this respect.

I'm pretty sure you know its never been my style to bash any of our players, particulalry not young ones, but the reality also is that recently we have had players that aren't good enough and when they reach a stage that they aren't making any impact then it is time to move on.

I think Handling, Stanton and Harris all fall into that category. That's not bashing them, that's my realistic asesement on whether they are good enough to play for Hibs.

You're quite entitled to your opinion, just sometimes think our home grown players get a tougher time, than the ones Stubbs has brought in

[Brightside]

I think some of you need to be less sensitive.

Having a view on whether someone is good enough or not is not the same as sticking the boot in.

As I said above my comment was more the way others had been suggested were were all blatantly missing some plan that Stubbs had for Handling. It doesn't appear that he does and that he agrees he needs to do more to be good enough to play.

Nobody has ever stated that people are blatantly missing some plan of Stubbs. But it is a fact that he has played that role for the Dev team and Scotland teams. Personally (and I know other coaches in the club agree) I think that's the role for him at Hibs. I 100% agree that he needs to step up and grab his chance this year.

Far too many people are quick to kick players out at the early stages of their career. Harris was the wonderkid on here - now the majority want him dumped. Stanton was the 2nd coming - now they want him dumped. Handling had 5 page thread on here following his games against Rangers but now he's nowhere near good enough. The people that work with them day in day out will decide if they have a future. Stubbs has not told them to leave. He's set them a challenge to fight for their place. These players aren't passengers or stubbs would have them nowhere near the first squad.

[dangermouse]

[QUOTE=brog;4403402]

am even looking forward to a return trip to Cowdenbeath no matter what the Weather

A pedant writes, only if we draw them in a cup competition :wink:

[Billychaotic182]

Craigen the Patrick player we were liked with has signed for raith

[GreenOnions]

[QUOTE=brog;4403402][B]

With the number of attacking players we have I just can't see us playing with 3 at the back often. 4 at the back with your full backs pushing well on is more likely for me. I think we'll more likely see us playing with 433 similar to the last two games of the league season against Alloa and Falkirk.

Our problem last year in a lot of home games was breaking teams down so I dont see the need to be asking centre halves to be stepping out trying to play when we have players further up the park that can do it for us.

I do agree though that we'll have plenty flexibility

It'll be interesting to see what our "default" team structure is. Regarding the three at the back - I'd like to see Forster starting most weeks but David Gray could play on the right of a back three. That would give us three mobile defenders and allow us to field someone like Boyle or Carmichael wide on one side with Lewis on the other? Perhaps that could address the concerns of those who feel 3-5-2 involves playing too many defenders?

[SaulGoodman]

Can we keep this thread for transfers. If I get a spare 5 minutes at work I want to see transfer stories. Not arguing and formation chat.

[Iain G]

[QUOTE=B.H.F.C;4403435]

Perhaps that could address the concerns of those who feel 3-5-2 involves playing too many defenders?

Never used to be a complaint with Sauzee in a back three :wink:

[GreenArmyyy!]

Craigen the Patrick player we were liked with has signed for raith

Thank god.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Any chance of getting back to signings chat? Maybe start a new thread for folk that want to quote coaching manuals.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Can we keep this thread for transfers. If I get a spare 5 minutes at work I want to see transfer stories. Not arguing and formation chat.

Never saw this before I posted, quite right though.

[WeeRussell]

I think some of you need to be less sensitive.

Having a view on whether someone is good enough or not is not the same as sticking the boot in.

As I said above my comment was more the way others had been suggested were were all blatantly missing some plan that Stubbs had for Handling. It doesn't appear that he does and that he agrees he needs to do more to be good enough to play.

Incidentally, while we may disagree on the quality of the current squad of players etc - we are in total agreement re Handling and his "DM" role... as a few pages ago will prove.

Anyway - hopefully some news today as a lot of what we have been told was "this week".

I assume Watson will soon be announced (unless I've missed some news on this)... with the hopeful possibility of Holt and/or Allan extension :greengrin

.. oh and hopefully some more news on a goalkeeper.. or two! :flag:

[WeeRussell]

could we be thinking of playing david gray in the holding central midfield role?? as captain gets him right in the thick of the play and with boyle,forster and dunsmore capable of covering the right side whatever formation we play.


This isn't a dig at you mate but I don't get the sudden fascination on Hibs.net of wanting to put full backs (and others) into holding midfield - as if it's not a position that requires midfield qualities. Gray is a very good player for us but I can't see how we'd possibly benefit from having him in any central midfield role.

Same applies to Forster for me too - Stevenson is the only one I find remotely realistic.

Just my opinion of course, and not meant to be a jump down the throat at you :aok: Just the latest of what seems a long series of players people are trying to squeeze into a position that doesn't suit.

[erin go bragh]

Thought this was a thread about transfers .
Anyone heard about the guy McCabe that left sevco for Sheffield Wed .

GGTTH

[Aldo]

Thought this was a thread about transfers . Anyone heard about the guy McCabe that left sevco for Sheffield Wed . GGTTH

It was mentioned yesterday on this or another thread.

Don't know much about him tbh!

[BoomtownHibees]

Nobody has ever stated that people are blatantly missing some plan of Stubbs. But it is a fact that he has played that role for the Dev team and Scotland teams. Personally (and I know other coaches in the club agree) I think that's the role for him at Hibs. I 100% agree that he needs to step up and grab his chance this year.

Far too many people are quick to kick players out at the early stages of their career. Harris was the wonderkid on here - now the majority want him dumped. Stanton was the 2nd coming - now they want him dumped. Handling had 5 page thread on here following his games against Rangers but now he's nowhere near good enough. The people that work with them day in day out will decide if they have a future. Stubbs has not told them to leave. He's set them a challenge to fight for their place. These players aren't passengers or stubbs would have them nowhere near the first squad.

Folk keep quoting about Danny playing the DM role for the Scotland U-21's. He's only started in 1 out of the last 10 qualifying games.

[Iain G]

This isn't a dig at you mate but I don't get the sudden fascination on Hibs.net of wanting to put full backs (and others) into holding midfield - as if it's not a position that requires midfield qualities. Gray is a very good player for us but I can't see how we'd possibly benefit from having him in any central midfield role.

Same applies to Forster for me too - Stevenson is the only one I find remotely realistic.

Just my opinion of course, and not meant to be a jump down the throat at you :aok: Just the latest of what seems a long series of players people are trying to squeeze into a position that doesn't suit.

Surely the best player for a holding midfielder is the goalkeeper as they are the only one allowed to actually hold the ball? :wink:

[E10 Rifle]

I think all three will be moved on as they really need games at this stage in their career.
Imo they are not good enough for Hibs although I had previously thought Handling could step up, he has not grabbed his chance.

Games at this stage in their career is an interesting one. You often hear it from older ones and now we're applying it to our youngsters. I guess the question is, at what point does a player not need games (at this stage of their career) :confused:

[Beefster]

Thought this was a thread about transfers .
Anyone heard about the guy McCabe that left sevco for Sheffield Wed .

GGTTH

It's actually about Hibs transfers so your post is no better/worse than the discussions about tactics and whether the squad is strong enough.

Given there is generally a separate thread whenever someone signs, I'm always bemused about why people get so arsey about a bit of discussion related to the thread topic tbh.

[WeeRussell]

It's actually about Hibs transfers so your post is no better/worse than the discussions about tactics and whether the squad is strong enough.

Given there is generally a separate thread whenever someone signs, I'm always bemused about why people get so arsey about a bit of discussion related to the thread topic tbh.

I was going to reply the exact same thing but wondered if it was maybe in relation to Hibs trying to pick the boy up (not familiar with the story at all) so didn't want to make an erse of myself :greengrin

[scoopyboy]

Thought this was a thread about transfers .
Anyone heard about the guy McCabe that left sevco for Sheffield Wed .

GGTTH

Sounds like the start of a joke :greengrin

Someone mentioned earlier this week that contact had been made with him.

[HibeeMackenzie]

This could be nothing but all of the out of contract players and expired loanees are no longer listed on the first team section of the official website, except Oxley, could he be signing?

[Allant1981]

Sounds like the start of a joke :greengrin

Someone mentioned earlier this week that contact had been made with him.

I spoke with his aunt at the start of the week and she hadnt heard but was going to try and find out, havent heard from her yet though

[erin go bragh]

It's actually about Hibs transfers so your post is no better/worse than the discussions about tactics and whether the squad is strong enough.

Given there is generally a separate thread whenever someone signs, I'm always bemused about why people get so arsey about a bit of discussion related to the thread topic tbh.

I'm asking about a player that's been rumoured to have signed for Hibs .
Is that not what this thread is for ?
GGTTH

[Ozyhibby]

Games at this stage in their career is an interesting one. You often hear it from older ones and now we're applying it to our youngsters. I guess the question is, at what point does a player not need games (at this stage of their career) :confused:

By the time a player is 21 he should have well over 100 games under his belt. I think all three of ours are short. If they don't play this season they won't be pros much longer.
Could be that a loan deal suits them and they come back a better player but more likely they end up like Booth, getting sent somewhere new every window.
One thing for sure, this is a very important year for all three lads. They have to be playing every week and showing they can handle first team professional football week in week out because if not, there are lots of 18 years olds willing to show they are hungrier.

[WeeRussell]

By the time a player is 21 he should have well over 100 games under his belt. I think all three of ours are short. If they don't play this season they won't be pros much longer.
Could be that a loan deal suits them and they come back a better player but more likely they end up like Booth, getting sent somewhere new every window.
One thing for sure, this is a very important year for all three lads. They have to be playing every week and showing they can handle first team professional football week in week out because if not, there are lots of 18 years olds willing to show they are hungrier.

Says who? I don't think Riordan was a regular in our team until the season he turned 21.

I don't necessarily disagree with your assessment of some of the young players - I just think putting a deadline of 21 years old, and basing it purely on the number of games they have played is nonsense.


I hope we sign someone else soon (just keeping this on topic :giruy2:)

[scoopyboy]

By the time a player is 21 he should have well over 100 games under his belt. I think all three of ours are short. If they don't play this season they won't be pros much longer.
Could be that a loan deal suits them and they come back a better player but more likely they end up like Booth, getting sent somewhere new every window.
One thing for sure, this is a very important year for all three lads. They have to be playing every week and showing they can handle first team professional football week in week out because if not, there are lots of 18 years olds willing to show they are hungrier.

Harsh but probably true.

You do get the odd exception like Scott Allan but in general I would agree with your point.

[Brightside]

By the time a player is 21 he should have well over 100 games under his belt. I think all three of ours are short. If they don't play this season they won't be pros much longer.
Could be that a loan deal suits them and they come back a better player but more likely they end up like Booth, getting sent somewhere new every window.
One thing for sure, this is a very important year for all three lads. They have to be playing every week and showing they can handle first team professional football week in week out because if not, there are lots of 18 years olds willing to show they are hungrier.

yet we have players in their mid 20s / 30s who spend most of a season on the bench?? Why is it that our young players must play every week? Its a squad game.

[Ozyhibby]

Says who? I don't think Riordan was a regular in our team until the season he turned 21.

I don't necessarily disagree with your assessment of some of the young players - I just think putting a deadline of 21 years old, and basing it purely on the number of games they have played is nonsense.


I hope we sign someone else soon (just keeping this on topic :giruy2:)

It's obviously not a hard and fast rule but it's def where you want to be.
These 3 are now too old for the u20's and need to make the step up.

[Brightside]

It's obviously not a hard and fast rule but it's def where you want to be.
These 3 are now too old for the u20's and need to make the step up.

Whats the u20s? Its a development league.

[The Leith Dutch]

I can't see us playing 352 very often. We don't need to play with 3 centre halves, especially at home, when teams hardly leave anyone up the pitch. Might play it occasionally, like against Rangers, but not throughout the season.

And even if we do play 352 I'd play Gray ahead of Boyle every time.

The exception would be a genuine 3-5-2 where the wide players in the midfield 5 are proper wingers or attacking players and a sizable chunk of defending the left and right full back positions falls to the left and right sided centre backs (and for what it's worth I think Hanlon and Forster would be ideal for that).

That gives you more attacking players than with 4 at the back.

[Ozyhibby]

Whats the u20s? Its a development league.

Whatever it's called, it's no longer suitable for these three lads. And Stubbs agrees.

[The Leith Dutch]

Ozy, they really haven't had much of a chance of late, very limited starts and a few late cameo appearances. At their age they need to play, a loan would be good for 2 of them, but I'd keep at least 1

I'm not knocking them but last season Stanton for example had 8 starts and 14 appearances as a sub in the league totalling 897 minutes on the pitch.
Not a regular I know but there are chances there - 8 starts and (back of a fag packet maths) 20+ minutes per sub appearance.
And this is against fairly poor opposition some of who are part time teams.

Opinions I know but it's not just 5 minutes at the end of the game all the time.

[Iceman1875]

What goalkeeper are we gonna announce? oxley? Williams?


At Easter Road we play...

[Brightside]

Is Paul Gallacher a free agent at the moment??

[Billy Whizz]

Is Paul Gallacher a free agent at the moment??

Don't think so, just signed for Preston

[Brightside]

Don't think so, just signed for Preston

The goalie?

[Billy Whizz]

The goalie?

Doh

[Franck Stanton]

What goalkeeper are we gonna announce? oxley? Williams?


At Easter Road we play...


Hope to god it is Williams. or a.n. other, sorry, just don't rate Oxley. Competent but unspectacular imo

[andrew70]

Is Paul Gallacher a free agent at the moment??

Unless he's signed a new contract in last few weeks and I've missed it then his contract is up on Tuesday.

[Billy Whizz]

Unless he's signed a new contract in last few weeks and I've missed it then his contract is up on Tuesday.

Thought he was the goalkeeping coach at Partick?

[andrew70]

Thought he was the goalkeeping coach at Partick?

He may well be but IIRC he only signed a one year deal last summer.

[Billy Whizz]

He may well be but IIRC he only signed a one year deal last summer.

Would be a decent signing

[Brightside]

Would be a decent signing

tbf I think its just agents trying to punt him.

[S4uzee]

Would be a decent signing

Paul Gallacher would be a decent signing?

[Iceman1875]

Paul Gallacher would be a decent signing?

I'd take Paul Gallagher the forward player over Paul Gallacher the keeper!


At Easter Road we play...

[andrew70]

Would be a decent signing

Would be decent as an experienced back-up.

[Allant1981]

Would be a decent signing

I really hope we are aiming for better, IMO wouldnt be a decent signing

[SteveHFC]

Would be decent as an experienced back-up.
:agree:


Hearing we'll be signing Hope Solo.

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/solo.jpg

[Aldo]

:agree: Hearing we'll be signing Hope Solo. You wish you mean!! ;-)

I thought you were more into Han(d) Solo going on your posts about the new strip!

[J-C]

By the time a player is 21 he should have well over 100 games under his belt. I think all three of ours are short. If they don't play this season they won't be pros much longer.
Could be that a loan deal suits them and they come back a better player but more likely they end up like Booth, getting sent somewhere new every window.
One thing for sure, this is a very important year for all three lads. They have to be playing every week and showing they can handle first team professional football week in week out because if not, there are lots of 18 years olds willing to show they are hungrier.


Don't know about 100 games by 21, that'd mean they were ave 25 from the age of 17 but I do agree with you. In Scotland we rely on our home grown players to make up the bulk of the team, look at Dundee u, St Mirren etc a lot of young home grown players, we have had very few recently that have taken the next step into the 1st team, Stevenson being the last of the bunch from a few years ago. We heard the set up wasn't right for youngsters to develop properly and the last coaching staff of the development squad were shown the door due to this, there are a few good youngsters coming through who may be better than Handling and Stanton and if these 2 haven't got it, time to make way for the next lot to have a go.

[andrew70]

:agree:


Hearing we'll be signing Hope Solo.

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/solo.jpg

I'd be happy with that from where I am sitting it's a move that would tick most of the right boxes :aok:

[Hibby70]

:agree:


Hearing we'll be signing Hope Solo.

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/solo.jpg

Worried what photo of her you were going to post there!

[SteveHFC]

You wish you mean!! ;-)

I thought you were more into Han(d) Solo going on your posts about the new strip!
:wink:

[Brightside]

:agree:


Hearing we'll be signing Hope Solo.

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/solo.jpg

I'd take her...she has some off field issues though.

[Andy74]

Worried what photo of her you were going to post there!

I still can't sleep.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Hope Solo signing would be a fantastic way to sell season tickets for the famous 5

[Beefster]

I'm asking about a player that's been rumoured to have signed for Hibs .
Is that not what this thread is for ?
GGTTH

I thought the thread was for discussion related to Hibs transfers. IMHO that means discussion on where the squad isn't strong enough, what formation we'll play and how our signings will fit into that and which current players we need to replace is as relevant as some random that was tenuously linked with Hibs.

Just remember I'm not one of the ones getting arsey about the divergence of a forum thread on the Internet. I'm moaning about the ones getting arsey about the divergence of a forum thread on the Internet, which is much more important.

[Puddocky]

:agree:


Hearing we'll be signing Hope Solo.

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/solo.jpg

My gaze was immediately drawn to the two stars on her shirt....

[AT8]

:agree:


Hearing we'll be signing Hope Solo.

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/solo.jpg

Looks like she's worth a couple of points per game.

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

My gaze was immediately drawn to the two stars on her shirt....

i thought i seen four..

[IanM]

:agree:


Hearing we'll be signing Hope Solo.

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/solo.jpg

More like hand solo 👋🏻💦

[bill the hibby]

I guess there's no signing news today then hahaha

[SouthMoroccoStu]

I guess there's no signing news today then hahaha

Busy next week then?!

Get a few more new faces in before we jet off for pre season?

[bill the hibby]

Busy next week then?!

Get a few more new faces in before we jet off for pre season?

I think so, but that's just my opinion, I'd expect some before they go back to Spain.

[Ringothedog]

I guess there's no signing news today then hahaha

You are correct hahaha

[HappyHanlon]

Goalie tomorrow I'm told....if not it will be Monday (they don't do them on Sat!)

Wouldn't be so sure - McPake was announced on a Saturday.

If there's news to be announced, it'll be announced.

[brog]

Busy next week then?!

Get a few more new faces in before we jet off for pre season?

Most English contracts expire on Tuesday. Expect activity by then at latest.

[DH1875]

I still can't sleep.

Checked her out online. Couldn't find anything scary.

[WellingtonHibby]

Checked her out online. Couldn't find anything scary.

This is not scary

[Caversham Green]

Checked her out online. Couldn't find anything scary.


This is not scary


This is a wee bit scary:

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/12976615/detailed-look-hope-solo-domestic-violence-case-includes-reports-being-belligerent-jail

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Can you imagine hope solo throwing her shorts into the crowd. ...there would be a stampede

[H18S NX]

Can you imagine hope solo throwing her shorts into the crowd. ...there would be a stampede..Already have

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Can you imagine hope solo throwing her shorts into the crowd. ...there would be a stampede

If I was playing on the opposing team to her I'd be caught offside more times than Pippo Inzaghi.

Just standing beside her in her six yard box fapping away to a standstill for 90 minutes.

[Cod Boy]

Liam Craig has signed for Guiseley

[Pretty Boy]

Liam Craig has signed for Guiseley

That's a shocker of a move for him. He is better than that level.

[Blaster]

That's a shocker of a move for him. He is better than that level.

I agree but quite glad. I expected him to sign for someone like Falkirk and score against us this season

[andrew70]

I agree but quite glad. I expected him to sign for someone like Falkirk and score against us this season

They must be paying him a lot of money to move down there if that's true. He had a lot of clubs chasing him.

[lucky]

Liam Craig has signed for Guiseley

Where did you get that info? There's nothing on there website

[Iceman1875]

Liam Craig has signed for Guiseley

Who?


At Easter Road we play...

[Hibeesmad]

Liam Craig has signed for Guiseley

Always knew he was Scottish Premiership top 6 material after the past 2 seasons he's had

[Stuarty27]

Liam Craig has signed for Guiseley

Found his level.

Shocking excuse of a football player, never mind a captain

[TheFamous1875]

We may need such a player long term but I don't see it for next season. The best Hibs team I've seen, the Tornadoes, didn't have a destroyer & of the midfield 4 ( inc Arthur & Mickey ) only King Pat & Crops actually knew how to tackle. I know football's moved on a lot since then but for the great majority of our games next season we'll have a surplus of possession & we'll need guile & creativity to beat packed defences, not a destroyer. FWIW I think we'll mainly go 3 at the back next season & have a diamond midfield with Fyvie at the bottom & Allan at the top. Fyvie has huge energy, is much more disciplined defensively than either SA or ( the presumably departed ) DM & I expect him to be the player AS builds the team around this season.

I'd be inclined to agree with you, but I think physicality, power and tenacity is what's needed in the middle of the park - especially in a league like the Championship, where most opposition lacking in talent and ability have brawn and strength instead. We will have the majority of possession and chances, but we'll have even more possession over our opponents with a physical presence accompanying Allan and Fyvie - there's no point in having them if their creativity is stifled by defensive duties and both lack the physicality of your typical midfielder in this league. Look at Hearts, for example: Gomis, Pallardo, Prince Buaben - all physical and domineering in the middle of the park and they ran away with the league.

Stanton and Cropley were creative but they could also dig in and get stuck in and were both physical enough to contend in the middle of the park; Alan and Fyvie are from a different era where you're either one type of player or the other - they need that support behind them in order to flourish. I'd love to see someone with the right attributes brought in, a Claros, or Deegan or Matty Jack. I think this would see our results go up a notch.

[lucky]

Just read that LC is getting more money than most SPLF Premiership clubs can offer. Scottish football is dead if our top tier clubs can't compete on salaries with non league English clubs

[superfurryhibby]

Just read that LC is getting more money than most SPLF Premiership clubs can offer. Scottish football is dead if our top tier clubs can't compete on salaries with non league English clubs

A bit of an over-reaction Luckers. Fortunately, there is more to it than just wages and I would guess that our teams ( aside from the obvious ) have long since been paying wages that are in the same ball-park as lower tier - non league English football clubs.

[Beefster]

Found his level.

Shocking excuse of a football player, never mind a captain

FFS, have a bit of class. A man who played under some absolute huddies of managers, scored some important goals, gave his all even when he wasn't getting the run of the green and, despite the abuse he took from idiots, never said a bad word about the club or the support.

It was right to release him but I wish him nothing but the best in his career except when he plays against us.

[My_Wife_Camille]

Found his level.

Shocking excuse of a football player, never mind a captain
:agree:

Cant it be true though because I read on here that he'd be going on to play at a higher level than us next season

[Lago]

Just read that LC is getting more money than most SPLF Premiership clubs can offer. Scottish football is dead if our top tier clubs can't compete on salaries with non league English clubs
Agree it is a sad day, but just another measure of the slow decline in the Scottish game.

[Wilson]

Who?


At Easter Road we play...

He the ginger boy that used to play for us.

[Cod Boy]

FFS, have a bit of class. A man who played under some absolute huddies of managers, scored some important goals, gave his all even when he wasn't getting the run of the green and, despite the abuse he took from idiots, never said a bad word about the club or the support.

It was right to release him but I wish him nothing but the best in his career except when he plays against us.

Well said

[Iceman1875]

He the ginger boy that used to play for us.

Aye buddy... What about the team he's joined, who are they?


At Easter Road we play...

[fatbloke]

Liam Craig has signed for Guiseley

Are they no nicknamed the Guisers? He will fit in well there, just saying likes:greengrin

[Iain G]

Found his level.

Shocking excuse of a football player, never mind a captain

Not his biggest fan but really no need for this!!

[bigwheel]

Found his level.

Shocking excuse of a football player, never mind a captain

This says a whole lot more about you than it does of Liam Craig .....dear oh dear .....

[MWHIBBIES]

Found his level.

Shocking excuse of a football player, never mind a captainRubbish. He was inconsistent at best during his time here but if you actually believe that then you know nothing about football.

[Green Fish]

Found his level.

Shocking excuse of a football player, never mind a captain

Keyboard gangsta, behave, agree wasn't the best and never lived up to his promise but come on ffs

[Alfred E Newman]

Found his level.

Shocking excuse of a football player, never mind a captain

What a ridiculous post. Liam might not have set the heather on fire on the pitch but as a captain he carried out his duties well even when he was going through a tough time at the club.

[Golden Bear]

Found his level.

Shocking excuse of a football player, never mind a captain

Just the standards we've come to expect from you.

Which player are you going to pick on this season now that Liam has left?

[Stuarty27]

Just the standards we've come to expect from you.

Which player are you going to pick on this season now that Liam has left?

None, I think Stubbsy is doing a great job, bringing in the right players and getting rid of the s**te that got us relegated.


How anyone can defend Liam Criag when he was getting paid best part of £200,000 a year and putting in the horrific performances week in week out its beyond me.

Looking forward to seeing who we bring in on Craigs and Robertsons wages and ill guarantee we will get better value for money.

Also what I really like about Stubbs is he isn't afraid to get rid of players who he has brought in who he quickly realises aren't good enough. JJ, Kendedy and Sinclair prime examples.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

I have heard that we pay not bad wages in comparison to Northern Ireland and the league of Wales but let's not use them as examples when we can continue pontlessly measuring ourselves against England.

[jacomo]

I have heard that we pay not bad wages in comparison to Northern Ireland and the league of Wales but let's not use them as examples when we can continue pontlessly measuring ourselves against England.

It's hardly pointless. Our wage structure has a direct bearing on the quality of player we can attract.

[jdships]

Just read that LC is getting more money than most SPLF Premiership clubs can offer. Scottish football is dead if our top tier clubs can't compete on salaries with non league English clubs

I have a friend , a Scot, whose son (24) was freed by a Div 2 side in England and has signed for a "mid table " Conference side
Wages :
£375 /week plus win/draw bonus
Estimated earnings App £22000 /year
He has also been " offered" a part time job with one of the club's sponsors
Not all Conference sides are " full time "
Reasonable wages for that level - yes ?

[Lago]

None, I think Stubbsy is doing a great job, bringing in the right players and getting rid of the s**te that got us relegated.


How anyone can defend Liam Criag when he was getting paid best part of £200,000 a year and putting in the horrific performances week in week out its beyond me.

Looking forward to seeing who we bring in on Craigs and Robertsons wages and ill guarantee we will get better value for money.

Also what I really like about Stubbs is he isn't afraid to get rid of players who he has brought in who he quickly realises aren't good enough. JJ, Kendedy and Sinclair prime examples.
Was it not the case that both Robertson and Craig were offered new contracts but turned them down. If so that means they left not got rid of.

[DH1875]

No way was Liam Craig on £200k a year.
As others have also asked, who are Guiseley? I've honestly never heard of them.

[jacomo]

No way was Liam Craig on £200k a year.
As others have also asked, who are Guiseley? I've honestly never heard of them.

Non-league team situated in the hinterland between Bradford and Leeds. Would be amazed if this is true, tbh.

[Haymaker]

Just read that LC is getting more money than most SPLF Premiership clubs can offer. Scottish football is dead if our top tier clubs can't compete on salaries with non league English clubs

I know lads playing semi pro in england who earn £700 a week. 4 hours training and one game a week.

[hibees 7062]

I know lads playing semi pro in england who earn £700 a week. 4 hours training and one game a week.

We have a player in the first team squad on £600 a week . He's been asked to take a £100 a week reduction

[SteveHFC]

We have a player in the first team squad on £600 a week . He's been asked to take a £100 a week reduction

:faf: that's ridiculous

[3pm]

:faf: that's ridiculous

If it's true. Which I doubt.

[LancsHibs]

No way was Liam Craig on £200k a year.
As others have also asked, who are Guiseley? I've honestly never heard of them.

Guiseley were promoted from the Conference North into the conference last season. Will be playing the likes of Tranmere Rovers, Wrexham, Grimsby & Lincoln City this season. Just to let you know:wink:

[Iceman1875]

Liam Craig was no way on £4k+ per week, £2k tops


At Easter Road we play...

[brog]

Guiseley were promoted from the Conference North into the conference last season. Will be playing the likes of Tranmere Rovers, Wrexham, Grimsby & Lincoln City this season. Just to let you know:wink:

Indeed! I'll look forward to some good games at Bromley this season, hopefully see Liam! I remember many years ago Wivenhoe ( IIRC ) at Bromley & they had a fat balding midfield player who hardly moved out centre circle but scored 3 great goals, all from about 30 yards. Was Alan Brazil! You see some good players at the local grounds in England.

[hibees 7062]

If it's true. Which I doubt.

That's what i said , but it's true

[HoboHarry]

Liam Craig was no way on £4k+ per week, £2k tops


At Easter Road we play...
How do you know that?

[scoopyboy]

How do you know that?

Dunno how he knows but I agree with him.

I would think around £1600pw basic, I reckon Scott Allan would possibly be the only player higher than that at the club.

[Iceman1875]

How do you know that?

I don't know for sure but I'm pretty certain we aren't paying any of our players four grand a week...

I would believe Fontaine, Allan and maybe Gray would be on around £2.5-3k per week...


At Easter Road we play...

[Sergey]

Indeed! I'll look forward to some good games at Bromley this season, hopefully see Liam! I remember many years ago Wivenhoe ( IIRC ) at Bromley & they had a fat balding midfield player who hardly moved out centre circle but scored 3 great goals, all from about 30 yards. Was Alan Brazil! You see some good players at the local grounds in England.

Unless your local ground is Cray Wanderers :greengrin

[brog]

Unless your local ground is Cray Wanderers :greengrin

You're right G, they've gone in opposite direction from Bromley but at least they avoided a double relegation at the death last season. They're also hoping for their own ground soon.

[shamo9]

Does Stubbs rate Harris? I haven't heard his name mentioned in interviews over the last few months. He hasn't been put in the same bracket as Stanton and Handling which is interesting, though if Stubbs did see him in his long term plans I would've expected a quote about how he's 'like a new signing'.

If Harris stays then we probably have all we can afford in wingers with him, Boyle and Carmichael. I'm getting the impression that Stubbs is still making his mind up.

[jdships]

How do you know that?

Not many people outwith the club will be able to truthfully say what players earn
I am friends with two Football Agents who look after Scottish players and in the years I have known them neither of them has ever given me even an whisper on what their clients are earning. This as it should be !!
Will get a wee nod about a new contract or its length and such like but not financial affairs !!

[Sergey]

You're right G, they've gone in opposite direction from Bromley but at least they avoided a double relegation at the death last season. They're also hoping for their own ground soon.

Crying shame what's happened to London's Oldest Football Club. They have been truly dire for two or three seasons and the really need to turn the corner.

They did have a decent keeper a few seasons ago called Andy Walker. He saved them from severe drubbings on numerous occasions. Not sure where he is now, but he was better than Ryman level.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Announcement on Monday?

[bill the hibby]

I agree re Harris, strange we haven't heard an interview about him or how he's going to try get a place in the starting 11 etc, strange, I don't think he'll be here

[MWHIBBIES]

None, I think Stubbsy is doing a great job, bringing in the right players and getting rid of the s**te that got us relegated.


How anyone can defend Liam Criag when he was getting paid best part of £200,000 a year and putting in the horrific performances week in week out its beyond me.

Looking forward to seeing who we bring in on Craigs and Robertsons wages and ill guarantee we will get better value for money.

Also what I really like about Stubbs is he isn't afraid to get rid of players who he has brought in who he quickly realises aren't good enough. JJ, Kendedy and Sinclair prime examples.Mainly because he didn't put in those performances every week. Notice how many people have disagreed with your pathetic post, that generally means you are talking pish.

[HoboHarry]

Not many people outwith the club will be able to truthfully say what players earn
I am friends with two Football Agents who look after Scottish players and in the years I have known them neither of them has ever given me even an whisper on what their clients are earning. This as it should be !!
Will get a wee nod about a new contract or its length and such like but not financial affairs !!
That's pretty much what I go on about at times. Like players and their agents spout off about what they earn..........

[The_Horde]

:agree:

Cant it be true though because I read on here that he'd be going on to play at a higher level than us next season

Dynamic,box to box, goalscoring midfielders are overrated anyway

[Mr Grieves]

The sun saying the rangers are after Holt

[Jim44]

The sun saying the rangers are after Holt

I wonder if they are getting embarrassed about the rabid excitement about signing Scott Allan. An admin posted:


I'm closing this just now before it turns into another Goodwillie style thread.

Will reopen if anything official actually happens.

[Jim44]

Their latest signing:

This is from the Bromgrove Standard from the 26th

PROMISING footballer Jordan Gibson has spoken of his determination to make his mark at Glasgow Rangers after leaving Bromsgrove Sporting to seal his ‘dream’ move.

The 17-year-old is set to make the switch from the Victoria Ground to the 51,082-capacity Ibrox Stadium this weekend as he embarks on a career in professional football.

Having suffered setbacks at West Bromwich Albion, Stoke City and Wolverhampton Wanderers, a full-time contract did not look like going the Bartley Green youngster’s way.

But Gibson refused to give up on his dream and when he was offered the opportunity to impressive coaches at Rangers, he told The Standard he was determined to give it his all.

“It’s a bit of a dream, but I have always believed,” he said. “I was released by West Brom, and then went to Stoke, but had to leave because of transport issues.

“But those experiences have helped to motivate me.

“People were saying last year ‘what are you going to do after school?’ And I didn’t know. So when I got the call from Rangers I knew I had to make the most of it.

“I was a bit nervous at first, but after a few days everything felt normal. I trained with the first team some days, got to know people and played in two games which went well.

“My dad said to me ‘we are expecting a call in half an hour, so I am going to come to yours and we’ll wait for the call’.

“He came and said he had received a call about an hour ago and my mouth just dropped and then he said ‘you’re in’.

“I got up and just ran around the whole street. It was mad.”

Gibson, who joined Sporting last year, admitted the club’s u18s manager, Trevor Carter, had played a big role in helping to propel his career.

“He knew what I wanted to achieve and he knew the scout was watching me, so he played me every week even though the team was mostly second years,” Gibson said.

Rangers, who reached the UEFA Cup final in 2008, missed out on a return to the Scottish Premier League last season after losing to Motherwell in the play-off showdown.

But Gibson believed this could work in his favour as he bids to break into the first team under recently appointed manager Mark Warburton.

“If they had gone up I would have had less opportunities as more money would have gone into the first team, so hopefully this year we will go up when I have made a name for myself,” he added.

“I will be playing for the u20s regularly and just get a call up whenever. But the new manager is meant to be all about giving youth a chance, so hopefully I can breakthrough by Christmas.”

Gibson played in a variety of positions at Bromsgrove, but academy boss Andy Parr believed he would make an ‘excellent’ attacking midfielder.

“He has got a bit of class about him and has got a good footballing brain, so I think he has got all the attributes to make a career in professional football and do very well,” he said.

“To have someone come through really quickly has been really good for us and I am confident he will progress at Rangers.”

[Bostonhibby]

Their latest signing:

This is from the Bromgrove Standard from the 26th

PROMISING footballer Jordan Gibson has spoken of his determination to make his mark at Glasgow Rangers after leaving Bromsgrove Sporting to seal his ‘dream’ move.

The 17-year-old is set to make the switch from the Victoria Ground to the 51,082-capacity Ibrox Stadium this weekend as he embarks on a career in professional football.

Having suffered setbacks at West Bromwich Albion, Stoke City and Wolverhampton Wanderers, a full-time contract did not look like going the Bartley Green youngster’s way.

But Gibson refused to give up on his dream and when he was offered the opportunity to impressive coaches at Rangers, he told The Standard he was determined to give it his all.

“It’s a bit of a dream, but I have always believed,” he said. “I was released by West Brom, and then went to Stoke, but had to leave because of transport issues.

“But those experiences have helped to motivate me.

“People were saying last year ‘what are you going to do after school?’ And I didn’t know. So when I got the call from Rangers I knew I had to make the most of it.

“I was a bit nervous at first, but after a few days everything felt normal. I trained with the first team some days, got to know people and played in two games which went well.

“My dad said to me ‘we are expecting a call in half an hour, so I am going to come to yours and we’ll wait for the call’.

“He came and said he had received a call about an hour ago and my mouth just dropped and then he said ‘you’re in’.

“I got up and just ran around the whole street. It was mad.”

Gibson, who joined Sporting last year, admitted the club’s u18s manager, Trevor Carter, had played a big role in helping to propel his career.

“He knew what I wanted to achieve and he knew the scout was watching me, so he played me every week even though the team was mostly second years,” Gibson said.

Rangers, who reached the UEFA Cup final in 2008, missed out on a return to the Scottish Premier League last season after losing to Motherwell in the play-off showdown.

But Gibson believed this could work in his favour as he bids to break into the first team under recently appointed manager Mark Warburton.

“If they had gone up I would have had less opportunities as more money would have gone into the first team, so hopefully this year we will go up when I have made a name for myself,” he added.

“I will be playing for the u20s regularly and just get a call up whenever. But the new manager is meant to be all about giving youth a chance, so hopefully I can breakthrough by Christmas.”

Gibson played in a variety of positions at Bromsgrove, but academy boss Andy Parr believed he would make an ‘excellent’ attacking midfielder.

“He has got a bit of class about him and has got a good footballing brain, so I think he has got all the attributes to make a career in professional football and do very well,” he said.

“To have someone come through really quickly has been really good for us and I am confident he will progress at Rangers.”

Tomorrows front page headline in the daily ****** then - the rangers sign England based starlet despite heavy competition from...................................:yawn:

[Thomson]

Ipswich looking at allan too?!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/ipswich-join-old-firm-race-5963011

[number9dream]

The sun saying the rangers are after Holt

And the Daily Record say Hearts would be a due a compensation fee...

[J-C]

Ipswich looking at allan too?!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/ipswich-join-old-firm-race-5963011


TBH they'll have a few bob to spend and definitely a better preference than the 2 ugly sisters taking him.

[greenginger]

And the Daily Record say Hearts would be a due a compensation fee...


So Hearts must have offered him a deal at least equal to his last wages with them.

If the player can't find a new club willing to pay compensation, is he able to go back to Hearts and take whats was offered.

Or is he in limbo until such time as any compensation expires ?

[Heisenberg]

I'm sure Allan would prefer a move back down south as well. Interest from the championship/league one will be our biggest threat of losing him IMO.

[J-C]

So Hearts must have offered him a deal at least equal to his last wages with them.

If the player can't find a new club willing to pay compensation, is he able to go back to Hearts and take whats was offered.

Or is he in limbo until such time as any compensation expires ?

A few with good info suggested they hadn't, he was offered less so his contract has finished and is a free agent.

[Waxy]

The Daylate record. Always run stories that would weaken us if true. Have they ever printed a positive story about us?

[jacomo]

Editor: Hibs playing hardball over Scott Allan. Player has said he wants to go back down South one day. Find me a credible buyer and do it now!

Hack: Got no quotes to substantiate any story boss...

Editor: FFS! Write me a story!

[Danderhall Hibs]

The Daylate record. Always run stories that would weaken us if true. Have they ever printed a positive story about us?

Naismith from Killie to us?

[Jim44]

I'm sure Allan would prefer a move back down south as well. Interest from the championship/league one will be our biggest threat of losing him IMO.

The biggest threat to losing SA is Hibs resolve, or lack of it, to keep him and rake in a few quid.

[Lago]

Ipswich looking at allan too?!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/ipswich-join-old-firm-race-5963011
Would be a very good move for him a certainly a higher level of football unlike Danny Wilson.

[J-C]

The biggest threat to losing SA is Hibs resolve, or lack of it, to keep him and rake in a few quid.


Ipswich may be the better option for both parties Jim, we don't want him going west but I'm sure the supporters will understand if an offer of a decent size comes in from Ipswich, the money would be spent on the team for a change instead of disappearing to pay off other things.

[Jim44]

Ipswich may be the better option for both parties Jim, we don't want him going west but I'm sure the supporters will understand if an offer of a decent size comes in from Ipswich, the money would be spent on the team for a change instead of disappearing to pay off other things.

Stubbs has said that he is going nowhere. He is fundamental to our steady improvement and challenge for promotion next season. If Sevco can't buy him, they will be just as happy to see us without him next season.

[Ronniekirk]

Ipswich may be the better option for both parties Jim, we don't want him going west but I'm sure the supporters will understand if an offer of a decent size comes in from Ipswich, the money would be spent on the team for a change instead of disappearing to pay off other things.

If a few clubs from down south start to show interest I think the player himself will be honest with club and say he would like the opportunity to take one of them up if it suits him ,rather than spend another season in the Championship ,where he has nothing further to prove IMO .i don't think any reasonable minded hibs fan would grudge him that .

But am still quietly confident that he could Stay ,unless we are offered a sum we can't refuse with sell on clause that suits us .

[Ronniekirk]

The sun saying the rangers are after Holt

Given they lost out to us last season re S A and can't prise him away just now they will be desperate to show their fans they can compete with us for best players .So nothing would surprise me .i know some posters are saying he is coming to us so let's see how this one pans out .would be nice to know players are prepared to come to us based on reputation Stubbs is getting for playing good football and good man management skills rather than just opt for more money and everything Sevco stand for

[Pretty Boy]

If a few clubs from down south start to show interest I think the player himself will be honest with club and say he would like the opportunity to take one of them up if it suits him ,rather than spend another season in the Championship ,where he has nothing further to prove IMO .i don't think any reasonable minded hibs fan would grudge him that .

But am still quietly confident that he could Stay ,unless we are offered a sum we can't refuse with sell on clause that suits us .

I think Allan might fancy another season at Hibs for his own development.

He's been quite open that he made the wrong choice going to WBA when he did and he struggled when on loan in the Championship before. Add to that Hibs seem to have his medical condition well managed and I have a feeling he might feel he is in a good place for now. Barring a disaster next season the move south will still be there this time next year and he'll still be young enough that there may be an even bigger one if he gets it right this time.

[Ronniekirk]

I think Allan might fancy another season at Hibs for his own development.

He's been quite open that he made the wrong choice going to WBA when he did and he struggled when on loan in the Championship before. Add to that Hibs seem to have his medical condition well managed and I have a feeling he might feel he is in a good place for now. Barring a disaster next season the move south will still be there this time next year and he'll still be young enough that there may be an even bigger one if he gets it right this time.

Hope your right P B

[Jim44]

If a few clubs from down south start to show interest I think the player himself will be honest with club and say he would like the opportunity to take one of them up if it suits him ,rather than spend another season in the Championship ,where he has nothing further to prove IMO .i don't think any reasonable minded hibs fan would grudge him that .

But am still quietly confident that he could Stay ,unless we are offered a sum we can't refuse with sell on clause that suits us .

Well I have to admit to being an unreasonable Hibs fan as, in the present circumstances, I would grudge Allan a move South. He signed a two year contract, his manager is eager for him to stay and one more year with us will do his career no harm. In fact, I'd stick my neck out and say that another successful season with us would enhance his career prospects.

[Brooster]

A move to a club like Ipswich would be of interest to Scott. A sizeable offer would also be of interest to Hibs. There comes a stage when it will be more beneficial to sell but I dont know where that stage is. £750k maybe?