Hibs transfer thread (Last Day Update - Anier / Feruz (both loan) in, None out)

[Theinsider]

Are you able to get into the game tonight? Spoke to someone yesterday who was going to go down for the weekend, but Hibs said yes and then no, so they didn't book their flight

Not advertised. I contacted the club last time they were out to watch training but couldn't attend. I was then invited down this time around.

Cheers

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Not advertised. I contacted the club last time they were out to watch training but couldn't attend. I was then invited down this time around.

Cheers

Dedication. Great stuff

:aok:

[Theinsider]

Dedication. Great stuff

:aok:

1-0 Hibs. Fyvie

[bingo70]

1-0 Hibs. Fyvie

Any trialists playing?

[Nevi_SOL]

Any trialists playing?

No

[Unseen work]

What happened to the young left back we were after from Montrose? (I think it was Montrose)

Also the other people we have been linked with? Suk, holt etc

[hibeesboii]

See on twitter Rhys McCabe and Liam Craig playing for st johnstone today.

[bingo70]

What happened to the young left back we were after from Montrose? (I think it was Montrose)

Also the other people we have been linked with? Suk, holt etc

Think it was Morton was it not?

[Unseen work]

Think it was Morton was it not?

Yeah your right! Any idea on what the latest is with that rumour?

[bingo70]

Yeah your right! Any idea on what the latest is with that rumour?

No idea, not convinced there was ever anything in it.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Liam Craig playing for St J today as a trialist.

[iainm1875]

Liam Craig playing for St J today as a trialist.

Played well, by all accounts.


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[hibbymark]

Played well, by all accounts.


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Rhys McCabe also played in midfield for St. Johnstone today . Craig played the full 90 mins

[ancient hibee]

Pity we missed out on Schweinsteiger.

[jacomo]

Pity we missed out on Schweinsteiger.

Strange one, that.

Probably the most German man on the planet, not convinced he'll settle in Manchester.

[My_Wife_Camille]

Filip Kiss to join on trial this week according to twitter :thumbsup:

[Michael]

Strange one, that.

Probably the most German man on the planet, not convinced he'll settle in Manchester.

He did miss a penalty though. Might settle in England better then you'd expect.

[SlickShoes]

Liam Craig playing for St J today as a trialist.

He was at their training at Stirling Uni on Saturday, saw him when I was at the gym, think he will end up back there.

[DH1875]

Strange one, that.

Probably the most German man on the planet, not convinced he'll settle in Manchester.

Strange thing is, he's the first German to ever play for Utd (can't be right, can it).

[nellio]

Filip Kiss to join on trial this week according to twitter :thumbsup:

Would be very happy if he signs. Still under contract act Cardiff though so odd that he's on trail. Dont usually see trailists who are contracted to other clubs. I know Cardiff are wanting rid though so perhaps they allowed it.

[J-C]

Would be very happy if he signs. Still under contract act Cardiff though so odd that he's on trail. Dont usually see trailists who are contracted to other clubs. I know Cardiff are wanting rid though so perhaps they allowed it.


Think someone in an earlier post stated he'd been released.

[nellio]

Definitley not been released but i'm sure he's been told he's not needed. Same goes for javi Guerra and Etien Velikonja. Cardiff have a massive squad and need to trim it down so I doubt they will be looking for much of a fee. Apprently Ross county wanted him but couldnt afford him permanently as whilst he was on loan Cardiff were supplementing his wages.

I'm surprised we havn't just signed him and are giving him a trial. But in truth i've not seen him recently so dont know his current state, but from what I saw when he was at Cardiff easily good enough for this level. He's a fairly recent international as well, well last year i think. Im guessing Stubbsy hasnt seen much of him either so wants to take a closer look. In my opinion is just what we need in the centre of the park. Certanly not afraid the stick the boot in and not too bad technically as well.

[jacomo]

Definitley not been released but i'm sure he's been told he's not needed. Same goes for javi Guerra and Etien Velikonja. Cardiff have a massive squad and need to trim it down so I doubt they will be looking for much of a fee. Apprently Ross county wanted him but couldnt afford him permanently as whilst he was on loan Cardiff were supplementing his wages.

I'm surprised we havn't just signed him and are giving him a trial. But in truth i've not seen him recently so dont know his current state, but from what I saw when he was at Cardiff easily good enough for this level. He's a fairly recent international as well, well last year i think. Im guessing Stubbsy hasnt seen much of him either so wants to take a closer look. In my opinion is just what we need in the centre of the park. Certanly not afraid the stick the boot in and not too bad technically as well.

Sounds like a player with real potential for us and would help ease the pain of missing out on Schweinsteiger.

If he and Schneiderlein both sign for Utd, just wonder if Carrick will become surplus to requirements. Good player.

[nellio]

I honestly think in the Scottish championship he will be superb. Didnt do too badly in the English championship when I saw him. We loaned him out when we went up to the prem and then Makly got the sack and Tan pretty much wants rid of any Malky signings so wasn't given a chance when he came back from loan. Was send stright back up to the highlands again.

[My_Wife_Camille]

Would be very happy if he signs. Still under contract act Cardiff though so odd that he's on trail. Dont usually see trailists who are contracted to other clubs. I know Cardiff are wanting rid though so perhaps they allowed it.
It's rare but it does happen. We Defo had Ivan on trial while he was still contracted at his team in Ireland for example.

[Brightside]

Sounds like a player with real potential for us and would help ease the pain of missing out on Schweinsteiger.

If he and Schneiderlein both sign for Utd, just wonder if Carrick will become surplus to requirements. Good player.
Carrick is the best player at Utd. He runs that midfield.

[Brightside]

I'm in Tenerife so not hearing much by way of signings except a European based midfielder coming in for a game this week??

[Ozyhibby]

Holt training with Sevco
http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/ex-hearts-ace-jason-holt-trains-with-rangers-1-3829079

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

I'm in Tenerife so not hearing much by way of signings except a European based midfielder coming in for a game this week??

Filip Kiss?

[BH Hibs]

Holt training with Sevco
http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/ex-hearts-ace-jason-holt-trains-with-rangers-1-3829079

STV news reporting it as well

[Ronniekirk]

Holt training with Sevco
http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/ex-hearts-ace-jason-holt-trains-with-rangers-1-3829079

Not really a surprise ,they will try and target anyone we are supposedly after, just to stop us being in with a shout and to try and show thier fans they mean to compete with us .

[flash]

Not really a surprise ,they will try and target anyone we are supposedly after, just to stop us being in with a shout and to try and show thier fans they mean to compete with us .
Do you seriously believe that?

[CallumLaidlaw]

If Holt is the level of player they are targeting, then we really don't have too much to worry about. They are fishing in the same pond as us now. The only difference is they can pay quite a bit more in wages, but the standard of player is very similar to us. Holt or Fyvie/Allan? I pick our 2 every time.

[Ozyhibby]

If Holt is the level of player they are targeting, then we really don't have too much to worry about. They are fishing in the same pond as us now. The only difference is they can pay quite a bit more in wages, but the standard of player is very similar to us. Holt or Fyvie/Allan? I pick our 2 every time.

I agree they are fishing in the same pond but it's because they are only able to pay the same wages as us. They are skint. They only have income from ticket sales and Mike Ashley wants his £5m back.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Strange thing is, he's the first German to ever play for Utd (can't be right, can it).

By the looks of it yes, they have a German youth goalie just now but I can't see a German who has made a competitive squad. Strange factoid that!

[patlowe]

If Holt is the level of player they are targeting, then we really don't have too much to worry about. They are fishing in the same pond as us now. The only difference is they can pay quite a bit more in wages, but the standard of player is very similar to us. Holt or Fyvie/Allan? I pick our 2 every time.

My thoughts exactly. Holt, Wilson etc are decent players but they are not of a standard to guarantee promotion, which is really what Rangers need and what I had feared they would push for in the pre-season. There's still time for them but at this stage I don't think we should fear them in any way.

[AlbertK86]

Filip Kiss?

Is he not based in Wales ?

[darwenhibby]

By the looks of it yes, they have a German youth goalie just now but I can't see a German who has made a competitive squad. Strange factoid that!

Hun in my pub was telling me he is delighted in the signing of Andy Halliday!
They are now moving in the right direction 😂

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Is he not based in Wales ?

It's Monday, please forgive me 😔

[Haymaker]

By the looks of it yes, they have a German youth goalie just now but I can't see a German who has made a competitive squad. Strange factoid that!

Not many German players have played in the EPL IIRC. They tend to stay in German football, similar to English players.

[GreenCastle]

Not many German players have played in the EPL IIRC. They tend to stay in German football, similar to English players.

Another crazy stat - only 1 manager from Germany has managed in the the EPL!

Fulham and Felix Magath in 2014.

[jdships]

Do you seriously believe that?

:agree::thumbsup:

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Is he not based in Wales ?

It's Monday, please forgive me 😔

[Ozyhibby]

Any news on trialists at East mains this week?

[J-C]

Definitley not been released but i'm sure he's been told he's not needed. Same goes for javi Guerra and Etien Velikonja. Cardiff have a massive squad and need to trim it down so I doubt they will be looking for much of a fee. Apprently Ross county wanted him but couldnt afford him permanently as whilst he was on loan Cardiff were supplementing his wages.

I'm surprised we haven't just signed him and are giving him a trial. But in truth i've not seen him recently so dont know his current state, but from what I saw when he was at Cardiff easily good enough for this level. He's a fairly recent international as well, well last year i think. Im guessing Stubbsy hasnt seen much of him either so wants to take a closer look. In my opinion is just what we need in the centre of the park. Certanly not afraid the stick the boot in and not too bad technically as well.


Don't think he's on trial to show his footballing talents, will be more the chance to see his personality and that he fits in with the type of squad we have and also a chance for him to see if he wants to be here too.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Not many German players have played in the EPL IIRC. They tend to stay in German football, similar to English players.

Yeah that's true. Klinsman being the standout over the last 20 years but I don't remember many apart from him. Like you say they're as rare as English players abroad.

[J-C]

Yeah that's true. Klinsman being the standout over the last 20 years but I don't remember many apart from him. Like you say they're as rare as English players abroad.


Ozil, Podolski, Merteacker, Huth, Shurrle, Emre Can, Ballack, Boateng, Hamann, Lehmann, Riedle, Rosler, Gnabry and many more

[Ozyhibby]

Don't think he's on trial to show his footballing talents, will be more the chance to see his personality and that he fits in with the type of squad we have and also a chance for him to see if he wants to be here too.

Is he actually on trial or is it just a rumour?

[Hibs History]

Is he actually on trial or is it just a rumour?

Meant to be playing as a trialist in the game against Berwick tomorrow

[Ozyhibby]

Meant to be playing as a trialist in the game against Berwick tomorrow

Cheers, sounds like exactly what we need.

[J-C]

Is he actually on trial or is it just a rumour?


Just going by the rumours mate, as I said IF he's here on trial, will be nothing to do with his ability.

[hibees 7062]

Not for me

Signed for Utd

[Ronniekirk]

Do you seriously believe that?

No , I tend to overthink things ,but I do believe that they will be keeping a eye out for who we may be linked to and if they are of good quality ,and for a position they need filled ,and the player hasn't yet signed for us like in Holts case ,they may as in this case ,look to sign that player . they haven't been able to muster the dosh to bid for Scott Allan ,but they can pay bigger wages than us for the likes of holt ,who some of the itk posters had heard was in talks with Us a few weeks back .

It remains to be seen who we will sign in midfield , but a lot of folk thought he could of done a job for us ,and who knows ,he could got there train with them ,not sign and then still come to us .:confused::rolleyes:

[ancient hibee]

I was driving along Albion Road this morning behind a very nice Jag with a personalised number plate which included "RVP"-surely not another striker?

[Jonnyboy]

I was driving along Albion Road this morning behind a very nice Jag with a personalised number plate which included "RVP"-surely not another striker?

That would be Rod Vilified Petries :greengrin

[high bee]

I was driving along Albion Road this morning behind a very nice Jag with a personalised number plate which included "RVP"-surely not another striker?

Rod Petrie as a striker... surely he's more of a 'keeper with all the saving he does?

[Mikey09]

A 20 year old C/B ?- we have at least two in the developement side who are knocking on the door !!


Who are they??

[Oscar T Grouch]

Ozil, Podolski, Merteacker, Huth, Shurrle, Emre Can, Ballack, Boateng, Hamann, Lehmann, Riedle, Rosler, Gnabry and many more

43 in total if you were counting. Denmark has had 53 players in they EPL. Just my old memory not coming up with any, but I cannae mind what I had for tea last night. That's why Google is a great thing. 👍🏼

[Viva_Palmeiras]

That was Garry O. Did Stokes do one too?

Must be coming to a court near you sometime soon...

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/new-date-set-anthony-stokes-5683584

[Unseen work]

Very surprised we have not heard any rumours regarding Jason Cummings.

He still has a lot of areas to develop on but is a great talent who knows how to score different types of goals.

Not complaining as I love the kid

[Nutmegged]

Very surprised we have not heard any rumours regarding Jason Cummings.

He still has a lot of areas to develop on but is a great talent who knows how to score different types of goals.

Not complaining as I love the kid

I think he has far.to much to learn yet for anyone to really want to take a punt on him, he is an out and out goalscorer but I think teams in England look for more than just that and I don't think Jas is on the periphery of greatness just yet, I think outsiders will look at him and think he's good but not worth the dedicated time he'd likely need at this moment, lets leave him at Hibs continuing his work with Stubbs unless something unexpected happens.

big Season for Jason Cummins, 2nd full Season is always a lot harder, he'll find himself a marked man on occassion, it'll be interesting to see how he handles it

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

I think he has far.to much to learn yet for anyone to really want to take a punt on him, he is an out and out goalscorer but I think teams in England look for more than just that and I don't think Jas is on the periphery of greatness just yet, I think outsiders will look at him and think he's good but not worth the dedicated time he'd likely need at this moment, lets leave him at Hibs continuing his work with Stubbs unless something unexpected happens.

big Season for Jason Cummins, 2nd full Season is always a lot harder, he'll find himself a marked man on occassion, it'll be interesting to see how he handles it

I agree with a lot of that but still think some clubs down south will have taken an interest in him scoring 20 goals in his first full season, in addition to 30+ the season before for the development squad. He's got a lot to work on still but those stats indicate a natural finisher, something all teams crave. Swansea signed King from Hearts and he had only played about 2 games for them and really done nothing of note. Cummings is currently way ahead of where he was, for example. I'm glad there's been no interest but I am also a wee bit surprised

[JimBHibees]

Ozil, Podolski, Merteacker, Huth, Shurrle, Emre Can, Ballack, Boateng, Hamann, Lehmann, Riedle, Rosler, Gnabry and many more

Yeah but apart from them. :greengrin

[andrew70]

I agree with a lot of that but still think some clubs down south will have taken an interest in him scoring 20 goals in his first full season, in addition to 30+ the season before for the development squad. He's got a lot to work on still but those stats indicate a natural finisher, something all teams crave. Swansea signed King from Hearts and he had only played about 2 games for them and really done nothing of note. Cummings is currently way ahead of where he was, for example. I'm glad there's been no interest but I am also a wee bit surprised

Hearts are very active in promoting their young players for a move. The stories of Real Betis and the like don't come along by themselves.

We are trying to build for the future, Hearts know they can only build if they receive further income. Anne Budge's personal wealth and Hearts fervour will only last so long.

The one thing Hibs do need to maintain this stance is support. I really hope that everyone who can get a season ticket is seriously considering it because the change in thought process at Easter Road i.e football comes first is well worth getting behind.

[J-C]

43 in total if you were counting. Denmark has had 53 players in they EPL. Just my old memory not coming up with any, but I cannae mind what I had for tea last night. That's why Google is a great thing. 


These were just from the top of my head, knew there were more but couldn't be bothered googling, just needed to reply that's all. :greengrin

[Springbank]

Hearts are very active in promoting their young players for a move. The stories of Real Betis and the like don't come along by themselves.

We are trying to build for the future, Hearts know they can only build if they receive further income. Anne Budge's personal wealth and Hearts fervour will only last so long.

The one thing Hibs do need to maintain this stance is support. I really hope that everyone who can get a season ticket is seriously considering it because the change in thought process at Easter Road i.e football comes first is well worth getting behind.
Agree 100%

[IanM]

@TransferRelated: DONE DEAL: Shamrock Rovers have completed the signing of Damien Duff. He'll donate all of his wage to charity. Class. http://t.co/t9kIJZhGdB

Fenlon looks a happy chap after this

[jacomo]

@TransferRelated: DONE DEAL: Shamrock Rovers have completed the signing of Damien Duff. He'll donate all of his wage to charity. Class. http://t.co/t9kIJZhGdB

Fenlon looks a happy chap after this

Ha ha beaming smiles all round!

Pats looking well, good luck to him.

[Heisenberg]

Not first team transfer news but worth noting from Kenny Millar...


Kenny Millar ‏@Kenny_Millar (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar) 40m40 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar/status/621219380605624320)
Hibs lose in-demand 14-year-old striker Kieran McGrath to Celtic for a measly £35,000. Another has gone to Rangers, and Scotland's Victory


Kenny Millar ‏@Kenny_Millar (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar) 40m40 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar/status/621219445424435201)
Shield captain is also on the move. Tough for a club working hard to get back to bringing through their own.

[bigwheel]

Not first team transfer news but worth noting from Kenny Millar...


Kenny Millar ‏@Kenny_Millar (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar) 40m40 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar/status/621219380605624320)
Hibs lose in-demand 14-year-old striker Kieran McGrath to Celtic for a measly £35,000. Another has gone to Rangers, and Scotland's Victory


Kenny Millar ‏@Kenny_Millar (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar) 40m40 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar/status/621219445424435201)
Shield captain is also on the move. Tough for a club working hard to get back to bringing through their own.


It's quite telling that Celtic can spend 35k on a 14 year old...and we would be lucky to spend that on a first team player....worlds apart...and it's why Celtic have head and shoulders the best youth teams in Scotland...


ah, well - maybe we will get them back on loan when they don't get in the first team....

[Billy Whizz]

It's quite telling that Celtic can spend 35k on a 14 year old...and we would be lucky to spend that on a first team player....worlds apart...and it's why Celtic have head and shoulders the best youth teams in Scotland...


ah, well - maybe we will get them back on loan when they don't get in the first team....

Can you "buy" a players who's under 16?

Shame for the lad going there, think Celtic have brought through about 1/2 players in the last 7 or 8 years

[bigwheel]

Can you "buy" a players who's under 16?

Shame for the lad going there, think Celtic have brought through about 1/2 players in the last 7 or 8 years


yes you can,, they are contracted to Hibs...so there is a fee...I agree, it is indeed a shame...

[Ozyhibby]

Can you "buy" a players who's under 16?

Shame for the lad going there, think Celtic have brought through about 1/2 players in the last 7 or 8 years

Although they do not have many break into their own team, there are a lot of former Celtic academy kids now playing pro football at other clubs.
I agree though that young players should go where they are likely to get game time.

[Smartie]

We've done quite well at getting players from Celtic's youth system.

Did Wotherspoon and Forster not both come from there?

A good few first team appearances for us from them, more if you chuck Mcgeoch into the mix too.

Shame we're losing players to the OF but I can see us being able to offer players things that they cannot. I'm not slashing my wrists just yet.

The best thing that could happen to us in this regard would be to see Scott Martin, Lewis Allan or one of the other guys on the fringes of the first team get in and properly establish themselves. That and for us to get promoted. The best way to attract talented youngsters is to prove that there is a pathway to the first team for those that have talent and are prepared to work hard. I'm not convinced it is about glamour, big clubs or cash at that age.

[Mikey09]

It's quite telling that Celtic can spend 35k on a 14 year old...and we would be lucky to spend that on a first team player....worlds apart...and it's why Celtic have head and shoulders the best youth teams in Scotland...


ah, well - maybe we will get them back on loan when they don't get in the first team....


And then you get ***** at Celtic mumping that the Scottish game isn't competitive enough and THEY suffer in Europe as a result... Until we distribute money evenly and Celtic get off there saviours of Scottish football high horse this will go on forever. A club who define the saying, big fish in a small pond...

[Tom Hart RIP]

Just watched AS post match interview. Only position he mentioned strengthening was midfield. He suggested Danny Handling injury looked serious.

[Brooster]

Celtic have been after McGrath for a while. I always felt this would be the catalyst in getting McGeogh to Hibs.....lets hope so.

[andrew70]

And then you get ***** at Celtic mumping that the Scottish game isn't competitive enough and THEY suffer in Europe as a result... Until we distribute money evenly and Celtic get off there saviours of Scottish football high horse this will go on forever. A club who define the saying, big fish in a small pond...

Nonsense. The laddie is just that, a laddie. He's highly rated and very clinical in front of goal but at that age it's more to do with who looks after the player, wants the player and goes after the player more.

£35,000 for someone of his age is decent return and we don't know what's going to happen in the next 4 years before he gets invloved with a Development side.

One thing that does need to change within the academy is the archaic coaches that still infiltrate our youth teams. Many of them have their favourite players and the rest don't matter.

Not saying that's what has happened with KM but there's still a lot of work needing to be done.

On your point and as noted in posts above we take players from Celtic, they take players from us. It's football but lets not kid ourselves on that Celtic taking a 14 year old means there is no competition.

That's just blatant excuses rolled out but clubs who need to get there own in house in order.

Losing three highly rated prospects is not only damaging it's embarrassing to our youth system and that should be the concern. Good luck to the young lads but if we don't sort our own problems out then I fear more will follow.

[andrew70]

Celtic have been after McGrath for a while. I always felt this would be the catalyst in getting McGeogh to Hibs.....lets hope so.

Losing all three at one time is pretty telling and galling.

We can't do it all at once but the structure that they have in place needs to be complemented by their strategy and a goal ASAP before we struggle to make any impact on the academy front.

[bigwheel]

Nonsense. The laddie is just that, a laddie. He's highly rated and very clinical in front of goal but at that age it's more to do with who looks after the player, wants the player and goes after the player more.

£35,000 for someone of his age is decent return and we don't know what's going to happen in the next 4 years before he gets invloved with a Development side.

One thing that does need to change within the academy is the archaic coaches that still infiltrate our youth teams. Many of them have their favourite players and the rest don't matter.

Not saying that's what has happened with KM but there's still a lot of work needing to be done.

On your point and as noted in posts above we take players from Celtic, they take players from us. It's football but lets not kid ourselves on that Celtic taking a 14 year old means there is no competition.

That's just blatant excuses rolled out but clubs who need to get there own in house in order.

Losing three highly rated prospects is not only damaging it's embarrassing to our youth system and that should be the concern. Good luck to the young lads but if we don't sort our own problems out then I fear more will follow.


Are you pointing the finger a bit at Hibs here??...How can Hibs stop youngsters being attracted by the Old Firm?? - money and other incentives will be behind this, as well as the allure of being with one of the big two...it's happened for 100 years and will continue.

Doesn't make it anymore palatable mind you..

To say it's embarrassing seems a bit OTT to me...it will happen every year , in's and outs..some planned , others not...

I guess you have some knowledge though, as you seem to making a point about "our own problems"...care to expand?

[andrew70]

Are you pointing the finger a bit at Hibs here??...How can Hibs stop youngsters being attracted by the Old Firm?? - money and other incentives will be behind this, as well as the allure of being with one of the big two...it's happened for 100 years and will continue.

Doesn't make it anymore palatable mind you..

To say it's embarrassing seems a bit OTT to me...it will happen every year , in's and outs..some planned , others not...

I guess you have some knowledge though, as you seem to making a point about "our own problems"...care to expand?

Yes, I am pointing the finger at Hibs.

If we got our own house in order i.e. coaching, a definitive academy structure and an HR team that knows how to look after the kids, the parents etc.

I have no doubt there is incentives involved but we need to move the academy in to the 21st century. We have the third best facilities in the country and offer an 'easier' pathway to first team football it's time to give the kids the coaching they deserve for a start.

Losing out on three very highly rated prospects is embarrassing, no matter the age or level and suspect more to do with a lack of direction within the academy than being tempted by the lure of Rangers or Celtic.

Players knew coming to Hibs previously was a chance to play first team football now they come in and they just feel like they are numbers.

The new community football thing is great and will hopefully drag us to where we should have been years ago but it can't be implemented straight way, as we would all like, thus we will lose out on more and more players.

[hibs0666]

It's quite telling that Celtic can spend 35k on a 14 year old...and we would be lucky to spend that on a first team player....worlds apart...and it's why Celtic have head and shoulders the best youth teams in Scotland...


ah, well - maybe we will get them back on loan when they don't get in the first team....

I seem to recall that Celtic have some sort of a gig going with their youth players and St. Ninian's in Giffnock. Basically, let your kid sign for us and we will make sure that he also gets top quality schooling from one of the top five Scottish state schools.

[bigwheel]

Yes, I am pointing the finger at Hibs.

If we got our own house in order i.e. coaching, a definitive academy structure and HR team that knows how to look after the kids, the parents etc.

I have no doubt there is incentives involved but we need to move the academy in to the 21st century. We have the third best facilities in the country and offer an 'easier' pathway to first team football it's time to give the kids what the coaching they deserve for the start.

Losing out on three very highly rated prospects is embarrassing no matter the age or level and suspect more to do with a lack of direction within the academy than being tempted by the lure of Rangers or Celtic.

Players knew coming to Hibs previously was a chance to play first team football now they come in and they just feel like numbers.

The new community football thing is great and will hopefully drag us to where we should have been years ago but it can't be implemented straight way as we would all like thus we will lose out on more and more players.

you clearly have some experience that has concerned you - this bit though is a big leap of assumption....

[brog]

Yes, I am pointing the finger at Hibs.

If we got our own house in order i.e. coaching, a definitive academy structure and an HR team that knows how to look after the kids, the parents etc.

I have no doubt there is incentives involved but we need to move the academy in to the 21st century. We have the third best facilities in the country and offer an 'easier' pathway to first team football it's time to give the kids the coaching they deserve for a start.

Losing out on three very highly rated prospects is embarrassing, no matter the age or level and suspect more to do with a lack of direction within the academy than being tempted by the lure of Rangers or Celtic.

Players knew coming to Hibs previously was a chance to play first team football now they come in and they just feel like they are numbers.




The new community football thing is great and will hopefully drag us to where we should have been years ago but it can't Ibe implemented straight way, as we would all like, thus we will lose out on more and more players.


It sounds like you have some good knowledge here. Quick question, is this a legacy from previous regime, have things improved since BH departure or is this an ongoing problem? ( sorry - 3 questions in one! ) Good info from Kenny Millar, he obviously has a worthwhile contact!!

[andrew70]

It sounds like you have some good knowledge here. Quick question, is this a legacy from previous regime, have things improved since BH departure or is this an ongoing problem? ( sorry - 3 questions in one! ) Good info from Kenny Millar, he obviously has a worthwhile contact!!

An ongoing problem. BH and co meandered there way through things during his time in the job.

BH should never have held such a position. Ever!

Have they improved? Well if you include losing one of the better, younger, more innovative coaches then I'd suggest definitely. He is a big loss to Hibs also and may well have played a part in young McGrath moving on.

Hmmm, I wonder who his contact is? :rolleyes: This should never be reported by a journo although I am aware that there's been a lot of interest in KM. Put it this way for all some may lambast Celtic here, the story is damaging to us. Other young players will take notice of this and it may help to sway there decisions.

You don't want to be losing your best players at any level and you certainly don't want questions being asked of the academy because of that, in the long term.

[Del Boy]

Rumour I heard this morning was Paul Paton from Dundee Utd. They are meant to be signing Wesley Sneijder's brother and looking to offload a midfielder, might be a season long loan. Think he could do a decent job as defensive midfield.

[andrew70]

Rumour I heard this morning was Paul Paton from Dundee Utd. They are meant to be signing Wesley Sneijder's brother and looking to offload a midfielder, might be a season long loan. Think he could do a decent job as defensive midfield.

Paton's a tw*t but I think we need one or two of them in the team so possibly a good choice.

Rodney Sneijder is on trial with them so could be something in that one.

[Del Boy]

Paton didn't play in Uniteds friendly last night so maybe not in their plans.

[Billy Whizz]

Paton didn't play in Uniteds friendly last night so maybe not in their plans.

Is he over in Holland with them?

[nellio]

Would be well happy with Paton if we can get him on loan for the season!! Would be fantastic in the championship.

[Billy Whizz]

Would be well happy with Paton if we can get him on loan for the season!! Would be fantastic in the championship.

Does he have a court case hanging over him, re the incident with the Celtic goalie?

[Mikey09]

Yes, I am pointing the finger at Hibs.

If we got our own house in order i.e. coaching, a definitive academy structure and an HR team that knows how to look after the kids, the parents etc.

I have no doubt there is incentives involved but we need to move the academy in to the 21st century. We have the third best facilities in the country and offer an 'easier' pathway to first team football it's time to give the kids the coaching they deserve for a start.

Losing out on three very highly rated prospects is embarrassing, no matter the age or level and suspect more to do with a lack of direction within the academy than being tempted by the lure of Rangers or Celtic.

Players knew coming to Hibs previously was a chance to play first team football now they come in and they just feel like they are numbers.

The new community football thing is great and will hopefully drag us to where we should have been years ago but it can't be implemented straight way, as we would all like, thus we will lose out on more and more players.


Really??! Maybe it's to do with the one thing that has screwed football in general... Money!! I can be pretty certain the boys family have been given a wee sweetener to help them make there mind up re signing for Celtic. If anyone thinks this doesn't go on then they're deluded. As for your first point I can assure you Hibs are getting there house in order as you put it. Having spoken to Graeme Mathie Hibs are getting away from taking any kid who can kick a ball half decent and are only taking lads they seriously think will make it right through to first team. This means quality not quantity. I really can't believe you're pointing the finger at Hibs here without knowing all the facts!!

[Del Boy]

Is he over in Holland with them?

Not sure just checked the lineups for last nights game v AZ

[truehibernian]

An ongoing problem. BH and co meandered there way through things during his time in the job.

BH should never have held such a position. Ever!

Have they improved? Well if you include losing one of the better, younger, more innovative coaches then I'd suggest definitely. He is a big loss to Hibs also and may well have played a part in young McGrath moving on.

Hmmm, I wonder who his contact is? :rolleyes: This should never be reported by a journo although I am aware that there's been a lot of interest in KM. Put it this way for all some may lambast Celtic here, the story is damaging to us. Other young players will take notice of this and it may help to sway there decisions.

You don't want to be losing your best players at any level and you certainly don't want questions being asked of the academy because of that, in the long term.

True and good post but just to provide some balance there are a host of reasons that young players leave clubs at this age and go to other pro teams - and again to provide balance, I am aware of two young players, both supporters of our club, who chose one half of the Old Firm - and by god am I glad they are nowhere near Hibs due to their off field antics. One is very highly rated already but doesn't stand a cats hell of a chance unless he grows up :agree: these kids are exactly that, kids - with no life or real social skills, brought up in an online world with so many distractions. It's like buying a lottery ticket as to whether this kid will make it or not trust me.

I don't coach however was/am very close to a big set up in the East - you would weep when you overhear what parents/coaches think is best for their child - parents living out their own 'past career' through their kids is what I witnessed time and time again. Quite often it is as fickle as playing for the team they support, not what is good for the child/player - of course that can work for you and against you.:agree:

I posted a few years ago that Celtic paid more in salary to their U19 squad than they whole league (combined) - that is another issue. Add into the mix the incentives they can add on - to some it's a no brainer.

Don't see any reason for knicker twisting here and quite surprised that Kenny Millar chose to highlight it - it's been happening for years. I do wonder if there has been agent involvement here too - again I was quite surprised last season when an ex Hearts player we know and 'love' mentioned a youth player, out the blue, on Sportsound - was totally out of context......wouldn't surprise me if he and his agency have been involved (but will happily stand corrected if not) :rolleyes:

[Bronson]

Rumour I heard this morning was Paul Paton from Dundee Utd. They are meant to be signing Wesley Sneijder's brother and looking to offload a midfielder, might be a season long loan. Think he could do a decent job as defensive midfield.

No thanks. He seems to have some beef with Cummings after his comments on twitter, could disrupt a harmonised dressing room.

Oh, and he's not a particularly great player either.

[Smartie]

Irrespective of how good they are, there is an awful long way for a 14 year old to go before they reach the first team so £35k may actually prove to be a decent bit of business for us. Or Celtic.

How much did Chelsea pay for Tom Taiwo? It was something obscene and he was a good bit older than that 14 at the time.

I cannot for one minute imagine that Alan Stubbs (who spent as long as he did at Everton and oversaw some of the players coming through the ranks there that he did) wouldn't know exactly what is required of a football academy. If it needs put in place, he will be seeing to it (or getting someone who knows how) that it is put in place.

Sometimes academy players move on, many reasons behind why that may be. I don't want to bash Hibs too hard for this.

It is very hard to gauge the success/efficiency/ effectiveness of an academy because the fruit it bears comes so much later.

[jdships]

Yes, I am pointing the finger at Hibs.

If we got our own house in order i.e. coaching, a definitive academy structure and an HR team that knows how to look after the kids, the parents etc.

I have no doubt there is incentives involved but we need to move the academy in to the 21st century. We have the third best facilities in the country and offer an 'easier' pathway to first team football it's time to give the kids the coaching they deserve for a start.

Losing out on three very highly rated prospects is embarrassing, no matter the age or level and suspect more to do with a lack of direction within the academy than being tempted by the lure of Rangers or Celtic.

Players knew coming to Hibs previously was a chance to play first team football now they come in and they just feel like they are numbers.

The new community football thing is great and will hopefully drag us to where we should have been years ago but it can't be implemented straight way, as we would all like, thus we will lose out on more and more players.



" ....... suspect more to do with a lack of direction within the academy than being tempted by the lure of Rangers or Celtic."
You surely don't really believe that ?
The game of football is now , more than ever before, about " the mighty dollar " . I know of a lad from the NE , age 141/2 , who has signed for an English Championship club - signing on fee £15000 ( spread over a period of time ) !! Parents turned down three Scottish clubs " for better terms " (quote)
Parents play a big part in the " progress" of young footballers while agents are sniffing around all the time .
I was very friendly with Alex Miller when he was manager and he tried his best to keep agents oiut of the loop for 12/15 year olds , preferring to deal with club/parents .
It is worth while remembering that clubs take a risk when signing young lads that they might not develop after 16/17
Hibs have had a few which is nothing to do with coaches it is purely down to how the lad is able to develop his skills etc
Again Alex Miller used to say he was happy if he got three who made it from 15/20 12/15 year olds
I was one of them !
A " promising youngster " at 16 , " will be a good player " at 18 and freed as " sorry lad don't think you will make it at this level " ( Scottish (then) 1st Div at 19
Bet there are a few posters on this forum who can relate to that scenario :greengrin:wink:

[jdships]

Irrespective of how good they are, there is an awful long way for a 14 year old to go before they reach the first team so £35k may actually prove to be a decent bit of business for us. Or Celtic.

How much did Chelsea pay for Tom Taiwo? It was something obscene and he was a good bit older than that 14 at the time.

I cannot for one minute imagine that Alan Stubbs (who spent as long as he did at Everton and oversaw some of the players coming through the ranks there that he did) wouldn't know exactly what is required of a football academy. If it needs put in place, he will be seeing to it (or getting someone who knows how) that it is put in place.

Sometimes academy players move on, many reasons behind why that may be. I don't want to bash Hibs too hard for this.

It is very hard to gauge the success/efficiency/ effectiveness of an academy because the fruit it bears comes so much later.

:agree::top marks

[andrew70]

True and good post but just to provide some balance there are a host of reasons that young players leave clubs at this age and go to other pro teams - and again to provide balance, I am aware of two young players, both supporters of our club, who chose one half of the Old Firm - and by god am I glad they are nowhere near Hibs due to their off field antics. One is very highly rated already but doesn't stand a cats hell of a chance unless he grows up :agree: these kids are exactly that, kids - with no life or real social skills, brought up in an online world with so many distractions. It's like buying a lottery ticket as to whether this kid will make it or not trust me.

I don't coach however was/am very close to a big set up in the East - you would weep when you overhear what parents/coaches think is best for their child - parents living out their own 'past career' through their kids is what I witnessed time and time again. Quite often it is as fickle as playing for the team they support, not what is good for the child/player - of course that can work for you and against you.:agree:

I posted a few years ago that Celtic paid more in salary to their U19 squad than they whole league (combined) - that is another issue. Add into the mix the incentives they can add on - to some it's a no brainer.

Don't see any reason for knicker twisting here and quite surprised that Kenny Millar chose to highlight it - it's been happening for years. I do wonder if there has been agent involvement here too - again I was quite surprised last season when an ex Hearts player we know and 'love' mentioned a youth player, out the blue, on Sportsound - was totally out of context......wouldn't surprise me if he and his agency have been involved (but will happily stand corrected if not) :rolleyes:

I am sure KM was under the guidance of John Viola (ViolaFC) however I am not 100% on that.


" ....... suspect more to do with a lack of direction within the academy than being tempted by the lure of Rangers or Celtic."
You surely don't really believe that ?
The game of football is now , more than ever before, about " the mighty dollar " . I know of a lad from the NE , age 141/2 , who has signed for an English Championship club - signing on fee £15000 !! Parents turned down three Scottish clubs " for better terms " (quote)
Parents play a big part in the " progress" of young footballers while agents are sniffing around all the time .
I was very friendly with Alex Miller when he was manager and he tried his best to keep agents oiut of the loop for 12/15 year olds , preferring to deal with club/parents .
It is worth while remembering that clubs take a risk when signing young lads that they might not develop after 16/17
Hibs have had a few which is nothing to do with coaches it is purely down to how the lad is able to develop his skills etc
Again Alex Miller used to say he was happy if he got three who made it from 15/20 12/15 year olds
I was one of them !
A " promising youngster " at 16 , " will be a good player " at 18 and freed as " sorry lad don't think you will make it at this level " ( Scottish (then) 1st Div at 19
Bet there are a few posters on this forum who can relate to that scenario :greengrin:wink:

No, I know all of the above goes on and I also know that parents get sweeteners and so on but I honestly don't believe finances alone dictated this move.

[jdships]

I am sure KM was under the guidance of John Viola (ViolaFC) however I am not 100% on that.



No, I know all of the above goes on and I also know that parents get sweeteners and so on but I honestly don't believe finances alone dictated this move.


Fair comment as it is all a matter of opinion/supposition
I was speaking re what I know has happened to people around me
:rolleyes:

[Ozyhibby]

I can't say whether the academy is doing a good job now or was doing a good job before but there has been a lot of changes over the last year. That in itself can be disruptive for a youngster.
The link up with Soartans is no longer operating as originally planned either. Again, I have no opinion on whether this is a good or bad thing from a Hibs point of view.

[truehibernian]

" ....... suspect more to do with a lack of direction within the academy than being tempted by the lure of Rangers or Celtic."
You surely don't really believe that ?
The game of football is now , more than ever before, about " the mighty dollar " . I know of a lad from the NE , age 141/2 , who has signed for an English Championship club - signing on fee £15000 ( spread over a period of time ) !! Parents turned down three Scottish clubs " for better terms " (quote)
Parents play a big part in the " progress" of young footballers while agents are sniffing around all the time .
I was very friendly with Alex Miller when he was manager and he tried his best to keep agents oiut of the loop for 12/15 year olds , preferring to deal with club/parents .
It is worth while remembering that clubs take a risk when signing young lads that they might not develop after 16/17
Hibs have had a few which is nothing to do with coaches it is purely down to how the lad is able to develop his skills etc
Again Alex Miller used to say he was happy if he got three who made it from 15/20 12/15 year olds
I was one of them !
A " promising youngster " at 16 , " will be a good player " at 18 and freed as " sorry lad don't think you will make it at this level " ( Scottish (then) 1st Div at 19
Bet there are a few posters on this forum who can relate to that scenario :greengrin:wink:

Brian McClair, the new SFA Performance Director, will openly and candidly tell you (and youth players) that he was not even close to being the best footballer in his school team let alone beyond that - he is a terrific speaker and will tell all those that listen that it was work ethic and an absolute dedication to football and fitness that saw him succeed and others around him falter or not progress to the same high level.

You can be the best coach in the world - but if kids don't apply work and commitment - they will fail. It's not a dig at todays youth either as it's been that way for decades - money is just another fly in the ointment.

[Mikey09]

I am sure KM was under the guidance of John Viola (ViolaFC) however I am not 100% on that.



No, I know all of the above goes on and I also know that parents get sweeteners and so on but I honestly don't believe finances alone dictated this move.


I agree mate. However I believe it's played a huge part in it. A lot will come down to what he has been told. As everyone knows who has teenagers they have there heads turned very easily! As I said I don't know all the facts in this case but it's looking extremely likely an agent has been involved. I can almost stomach agents for senior pros but 12-14 year olds... Makes me sick. But that subject is probably a thread in itself!!

[andrew70]

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I agree mate. However I believe it's played a huge part in it. A lot will come down to what he has been told. As everyone knows who has teenagers they have there heads turned very easily! As I said I don't know all the facts in this case but it's looking extremely likely an agent has been involved. I can almost stomach agents for senior pros but 12-14 year olds... Makes me sick. But that subject is probably a thread in itself!!

Agree with all that bud.

The game has gone for the likes of us, only have to look at the Raheem Sterling deal. Crazy amounts for a player who isn't even worth half that in todays game.

Fair play to the club's who can afford to pay this money, it doesn't make it right but it's not their fault either.

If you are anything like me whether you have £20, £50, £100 and so on it's getting spent on whatever you want? Football is just the same but that's why we need to do the basic little things that bit better to ensure we don't always lose out.

[Unseen work]

I am delighted to get 35k for a 14 year old. That could go long way to signing a player who was previously out with our budget.

At 14 it is a long way to being anywhere near first team standard, there is a lot of youths who showed a lot of early promise and never lived up to it. I hope for the laddies sake it works out and he has a successful career but it's a good deal for us.

[Brightside]

I am delighted to get 35k for a 14 year old. That could go long way to signing a player who was previously out with our budget.

At 14 it is a long way to being anywhere near first team standard, there is a lot of youths who showed a lot of early promise and never lived up to it. I hope for the laddies sake it works out and he has a successful career but it's a good deal for us.
Exactly. They have also signed half the Newcraighall Vics team. And if any of them are then poached by celtic etc for 35k a pop it's good business. Was there not a 14 yo a Rangers (fleck I think) who was going to be the best in Scotland?

[andrew70]

Exactly. They have also signed half the Newcraighall Vics team. And if any of them are then poached by celtic etc for 35k a pop it's good business. Was there not a 14 yo a Rangers (fleck I think) who was going to be the best in Scotland?

Do you know if Yrick Gallantes was one of them?

Cracking player had Hibs, Hearts, Celtic interested in him.

Looked like he was going to join Everton but that would be a coup if we managed to persuade him?

[Gmack7]

Celtic have been after McGrath for a while. I always felt this would be the catalyst in getting McGeogh to Hibs.....lets hope so.
there may be a % of any future sell on fee written into this deal,
i'm sure someone had a huge windfall when sterling signed for man city

[NAE NOOKIE]

Nonsense. The laddie is just that, a laddie. He's highly rated and very clinical in front of goal but at that age it's more to do with who looks after the player, wants the player and goes after the player more.

£35,000 for someone of his age is decent return and we don't know what's going to happen in the next 4 years before he gets invloved with a Development side.

One thing that does need to change within the academy is the archaic coaches that still infiltrate our youth teams. Many of them have their favourite players and the rest don't matter.

Not saying that's what has happened with KM but there's still a lot of work needing to be done.

On your point and as noted in posts above we take players from Celtic, they take players from us. It's football but lets not kid ourselves on that Celtic taking a 14 year old means there is no competition.

That's just blatant excuses rolled out but clubs who need to get there own in house in order.

Losing three highly rated prospects is not only damaging it's embarrassing to our youth system and that should be the concern. Good luck to the young lads but if we don't sort our own problems out then I fear more will follow.

You seem to have some insight into the workings of Hibs academy, at least enough to still be criticising its workings a year down the line from the club making a public commitment to change the way it works and its structure pretty much root and branch. I may be wrong, but was it suggest in another post on this that Celtic had also taken a good young coach from us recently, this on top of them taking Donald Park away from us in 2007 because of his connection with our 'golden generation'.

You say Hibs need to get our own house in order and that excuses are being made, but no matter how we approach this at the end of the day I'm sure the likes of Mr Park, or the young coach, didn't decide to make the switch to Parkhead because they were looking forward to the attractive and relaxing drive along the M8 twice a day.

About 10 years ago my friends son was on Hibs books, I think he spent about 2 years there until he was about 11 years old or thereabouts. To get to training involved a round trip of 70 miles once or twice a week and in all that time Hibs contributed nothing to the cost of doing that. I don't know how Celtic work, but I'm willing to bet that if they can part with £35,000 for a 14 year old then during the cozy chat with his parents when they were tapping him up the subject of travelling expenses and other 'incentives' were mentioned. They have the money to do that, Hibs do not, so I would suggest that no matter what Hibs do, or how well the academy is run we will always be at a disadvantage, the same as every other club in Scotland when it comes to being up against Celtic.

To my mind the only advantage the likes of Hibs have over Celtic is the prospect for a young player of having a far better prospect of making the first team. If that long term view isn't taken by young players, or more importantly their parents, then it wont matter how good our coaching is or how good our facilities we will continue to lose some of our best young talent to clubs who can afford to 'incentivise' parents. Not to mention the fact that the job of building a successful academy must be made all the more difficult when your best coaches are tempted away by another club by the prospect of more money .... that makes continuity a real problem surely.

That's my take on it.

[Brightside]

Do you know if Yrick Gallantes was one of them?

Cracking player had Hibs, Hearts, Celtic interested in him.

Looked like he was going to join Everton but that would be a coup if we managed to persuade him?
Yes he signed. I agree great wee player.

[andrew70]

Yes he signed. I agree great wee player.

That's fantastic news.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Do you know if Yrick Gallantes was one of them?

Cracking player had Hibs, Hearts, Celtic interested in him.

Looked like he was going to join Everton but that would be a coup if we managed to persuade him?

Seems to be a lot of excitement over this kid .... what age is he, what position does he play and how does he compare to Messi at that age?

[Platinum Scotty]

Yes he signed. I agree great wee player.

signed for whom?

[Suburban Hibby]

About 10 years ago my friends son was on Hibs books, I think he spent about 2 years there until he was about 11 years old or thereabouts. To get to training involved a round trip of 70 miles once or twice a week and in all that time Hibs contributed nothing to the cost of doing that. I don't know how Celtic work, but I'm willing to bet that if they can part with £35,000 for a 14 year old then during the cozy chat with his parents when they were tapping him up the subject of travelling expenses and other 'incentives' were mentioned. They have the money to do that, Hibs do not, so I would suggest that no matter what Hibs do, or how well the academy is run we will always be at a disadvantage, the same as every other club in Scotland when it comes to being up against Celtic.

That's my take on it.

To draw a comparison I had a boy in my cab about a month back, his son was a keeper age 10 or 11, cant really recall. Plays for one of Edinburghs better known boys clubs- won POTY etc. Hearts had him in but his dad rebuffed them. Celtic came calling and offered Petrol money and to pay the dad's hourly rate to cover travel & training time twice a week just for the kid to go to training. Now i would imagine Celtic have a lot of laddies on their books- must be a huge amount of cash through into their Youth Development programme. Oh, and his Dad told them No as well, the boy was better where he was- was mixing the kids head up too much. Bravo to the Dad.

[scoopyboy]

In Florida at the moment so a bit off the pace.

Has it been confirmed anywhere about the laddies leaving hibs?

Booster heard something about it weeks ago but I haven't heard anything since.

How many and who to?

[3pm]

In Florida at the moment so a bit off the pace.

Has it been confirmed anywhere about the laddies leaving hibs?

Booster heard something about it weeks ago but I haven't heard anything since.

How many and who to?

Just been announced. Starts 2 pages back!

[andrew70]

Just been announced. Starts 2 pages back!

McGrath to Celtic, Adamson and Josh McPake to Rangers.

[andrew70]

In Florida at the moment so a bit off the pace.

Has it been confirmed anywhere about the laddies leaving hibs?

Booster heard something about it weeks ago but I haven't heard anything since.

How many and who to?

See post above, sorry quoted wrong post initially.

[scoopyboy]

McGrath to Celtic, Adamson and Josh McPake to Rangers.

Did we get money from the Huns?

[andrew70]

Seems to be a lot of excitement over this kid .... what age is he, what position does he play and how does he compare to Messi at that age?

Sorry I missed this earlier.

He plays striker but I have also seen him play on the wing and midfield for Newcraighall Vics under 13s then 14s - tricky, composed, eye for goal. Slight in frame but could hold the ball up and his link-up play was very good.

I never seen Messi at 12-14 but this laddie will be wearing a Hibs top so that makes him better. :wink:

[MartinfaePorty]

I'm definitely not someone in the know, but my mate's laddie recently signed for Hibs and had a number of teams after him. The reason he signed was Hibs have treated him very well and he loves the set up, so they must be doing something right.

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[andrew70]

Did we get money from the Huns?

Don't know. Would imagine so!

[GreenCastle]

Who are the coaches for Hibs youth teams?

What is our youngest team ?

[Deek01]

McGrath to Celtic, Adamson and Josh McPake to Rangers.

If I'm thinking of the same young lad Adamson, I think he may have went down south. Just going by what I've seen, I could be wrong.

[andrew70]

If I'm thinking of the same young lad Adamson, I think he may have went down south. Just going by what I've seen, I could be wrong.

Jack? He played for Stoke, back in May but not sure if he signed on there. I had heard Rangers but it may have got misinterpreted in conversation with regards the other two.

[Deek01]

That's the one. Saw a picture of him with the Stoke tracksuit on but that's all I'm basing my guess on.

[Chip shop Joe]

Not sure if I am missing the point of this but surely this means that we are attracting the right players in the first place? I really don't see a difference between the youth or first team. If we recruit a good player ie Allan for the first team or these ladies for the youths then someone with more money is going to buy him regardless of what we do.

[Unseen work]

Not sure if I am missing the point of this but surely this means that we are attracting the right players in the first place? I really don't see a difference between the youth or first team. If we recruit a good player ie Allan for the first team or these ladies for the youths then someone with more money is going to buy him regardless of what we do.

Exactly, No difference at all! Got to remember at 14 these laddies could purely just want t play for Celtic/ Rangers cause they support them. Not a lot will be thinking hmm it will be harder to get a first team game there. They're 14, very long way to go

[Brightside]

Trialist playing for Dev team tonight.

[RedHibby]

there may be a % of any future sell on fee written into this deal,
i'm sure someone had a huge windfall when sterling signed for man city

QPR will get 9,000,000 nice little development fee.

[IanM]

Trialist playing for Dev team tonight.

Mr A Trialist or is there a name?

[Brightside]

@HibsOfficial: #Hibs Development Squad starting line-up: Brennan, Donaldson, Trialist, McGregor, Waugh, Watson, Murray, Scott, Sinclair, Duthie, Shaw

[Unseen work]

@HibsOfficial: #Hibs Development Squad starting line-up: Brennan, Donaldson, Trialist, McGregor, Waugh, Watson, Murray, Scott, Sinclair, Duthie, Shaw

Must not be ready for first team if he's playing with them, you would think if he was signing with a view to first team this season he would of got a shot last night.

[matty_f]

Must not be ready for first team if he's playing with them, you would think if he was signing with a view to first team this season he would of got a shot last night.

Unless it's someone that's just come on the radar, or we wanted to play them in a lower profile game?

Would think you're right though, likely to be a development player that we're trialing.

[adhibs]

Could be just giving keith watson a game?

[Franck Stanton]

Could be just giving keith watson a game?


May just be his level :wink: [Joke before anyone gets on their high horse]

[IanM]

Could be just giving keith watson a game?

Watson is in the side.. Or at least there is one Watson!

[high bee]

Apparently Celtic bought Mcgeouch's parents a house when he signed as a youth. He went Celtic, Rangers, Celtic.

[IanM]

Jason Holt just scored as a trialist for Rangers tonight

[Billychaotic182]

My boss a big Utd fan thinks we are getting Paton on loan

[GreenArmyyy!]

See The Rangers have just signed an 18 year old guy that was released from Man United in the summer.

[Badge]

@HibsOfficial: #Hibs Development Squad starting line-up: Brennan, Donaldson, Trialist, McGregor, Waugh, Watson, Murray, Scott, Sinclair, Duthie, Shaw Any idea of the score?

[Hibstrooper]

Any idea of the score?

Finished 2-1 to Hibs

[Billy Whizz]

My boss a big Utd fan thinks we are getting Paton on loan

Paton isn't on the United tour as he's at home injured, seemingly got bad knees, and missed a lot of games last season due to this

[Badge]

Finished 2-1 to Hibs

Cheers

[stevie-bee]

Anybody find out who the trialist was

[Billy Whizz]

Ex Hibee Rankin rumoured to be joining St Mirren

[oneone73]

Ex Hibee Rankin rumoured to be joining St Mirren

Ex teammate of Murray, I suppose

[Billy Whizz]

Ex teammate of Murray, I suppose

Yup

[Ozyhibby]

Ex Hibee Rankin rumoured to be joining St Mirren

Good, give us a chance to finish above him for the first time since he was not good enough for us.

[SteveHFC]

Anybody find out who the trialist was

Trialist :hyper

[Billy Whizz]

Trialist :hyper

Someone called Newman

[California-Hibs]

Someone called Newman

Was it Paul fu***** Newman by the way?


....Lets see how good you guys are :wink:

[Craig_HFC]

Was it Paul fu***** Newman by the way?


....Lets see how good you guys are :wink:
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[California-Hibs]

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Begbie.jpg

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Haha, spot on, good stuff mate!

[itslegaltender]

McFadden isnt with a club yet.....

I know last season wasnt great at St Johnstone but surely he would do a turn in the Championship for us. A proper "Hibs class" player.

[Heisenberg]

McFadden isnt with a club yet.....

I know last season wasnt great at St Johnstone but surely he would do a turn in the Championship for us. A proper "Hibs class" player.

He's finished. Even at championship level.

[Nutmegged]

He's finished. Even at championship level.

I disagree completely, I was surprised at the dearth of quality in the Championship last Season, it was like two Leagues of 5, anything below Falkirk was a huge drop in standard and I think a player like McFadden playingfor an attack minded aside like Hibs would be great value and would definitely put bums on seats and IMO get them off those seats again

He's nowhere near the star who slammed home that 30 yarder vs France 8 years ago but I still genuiney believe he's more than capable of doing a good job at this level with a very attack minded Hibernian side

[SteveHFC]

With the news of Handling being out for 6 months now. We have to sign a midfielder during the next week.

The amount of injuries we have at the moment is shocking.

[Winston Ingram]

With the news of Handling being out for 6 months now. We have to sign a midfielder during the next week.

The amount of injuries we have at the moment is shocking.

We were looking to punt Handling on loan so i'm not 100% sure it'll have changed much

[GreenArmyyy!]

Don't want to stir anything but that Dutch coach that was scathing about our training methods last week may actually have a point. We have had more injuries in the past year than I can ever remember. Then again could just be bad luck.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Don't want to stir anything but that Dutch coach that was scathing about our training methods last week may actually have a point. We have had more injuries in the past year than I can ever remember. Then again could just be bad luck.

As predicted by someone on here last week, as SOON as we got our next injury, someone was gonna say "the dutch guy was right".

The likes of Farid's, Boyle's, Handling's injuries are in the "extremely bad luck" category.

[Nutmegged]

As predicted by someone on here last week, as SOON as we got our next injury, someone was gonna say "the dutch guy was right".

It was always going to happen

[Lago]

Don't want to stir anything but that Dutch coach that was scathing about our training methods last week may actually have a point. We have had more injuries in the past year than I can ever remember. Then again could just be bad luck.
The same Dutch guy that condemned West Brom's training as being in the dark ages.

[Smartie]

Don't want to stir anything but that Dutch coach that was scathing about our training methods last week may actually have a point. We have had more injuries in the past year than I can ever remember. Then again could just be bad luck.

Ha ha, glad you said this, I've been fighting the urge to do the same ever since it happened.

[bigwheel]

Don't want to stir anything but that Dutch coach that was scathing about our training methods last week may actually have a point. We have had more injuries in the past year than I can ever remember. Then again could just be bad luck.


That dutch coach knows nothing about our training regime...he is merely making assumptions...he may be right, but it would not be based on informed knowledge..just a lucky guess

[Andy74]

Liam Craig signs for St Johnstone.

[Ozyhibby]

As predicted by someone on here last week, as SOON as we got our next injury, someone was gonna say "the dutch guy was right".

The likes of Farid's, Boyle's, Handling's injuries are in the "extremely bad luck" category.

Was Handling's bad luck? Lots of people have said he looked in a bit of discomfort with his knee before he went down. Player should have listened to his body or coaching staff should have withdrawn him?

[GreenArmyyy!]

Liam Craig has signed a one year deal with St Johnstone. Glad he has got a team above the conference. Never worked out with us for one reason or another but a very good professional and wish him all the best.

[Ronniekirk]

Liam Craig signs for St Johnstone.

They got the best out of him before and his scoring record for them was good so they will be hoping he can replicate that .Should be a decent signing for them

[GreenArmyyy!]

Too avoid this kind of retribution I did state it could just be bad luck but no-one can deny we sustain an above average amount of injuries.

[hibs0666]

Too avoid this kind of retribution I did state it could just be bad luck but no-one can deny we sustain an above average amount of injuries.

How did you work out that our injuries are above average?

[jacomo]

Was Handling's bad luck? Lots of people have said he looked in a bit of discomfort with his knee before he went down. Player should have listened to his body or coaching staff should have withdrawn him?

Apparently Petrie bashed his briefcase into Danny's knee at EM, the clumsy dufus. Didn't seem much at the time, but...


Did I do well? :wink:

[Beefster]

Too avoid this kind of retribution I did state it could just be bad luck but no-one can deny we sustain an above average amount of injuries.

Give me the stats you have used and I'll let you know if I can deny it or not.

[R'Albin]

Too avoid this kind of retribution I did state it could just be bad luck but no-one can deny we sustain an above average amount of injuries.

Nothing compared to the 30 players the sheep seem to have injured at the time whenever we beat them.

[GreenArmyyy!]

Don't have any stats just stating what I see to be the truth, we had a lot more injuries last season than in previous years from memory.

[gegs70]

Could tge injury be down to the playig surface? Remember Farids injury was perhaps more down to Alloas poor 3g surface?????

[JHFC]

Don't want to stir anything but that Dutch coach that was scathing about our training methods last week may actually have a point. We have had more injuries in the past year than I can ever remember. Then again could just be bad luck.

How many of our injured players were over in la manga?

[GreenArmyyy!]

How many of our injured players were over in la manga?

Not referring to La Manga myself, just talking in general about our training methods. I was saying the Dutch guy may or may not have had a point about our training methods not La Manga. I think the La Manga trips are great for the team.

[Lago]

Liam Craig signs for St Johnstone.
Very pleased for him

[Bearders]

Was Handling's bad luck? Lots of people have said he looked in a bit of discomfort with his knee before he went down. Player should have listened to his body or coaching staff should have withdrawn him?

Lots of people?? Never heard this at all or noticed him in any discomfort. Looked to me as if studs got caught in turf - really bad luck IMO.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Not referring to La Manga myself, just talking in general about our training methods. I was saying the Dutch guy may or may not have had a point about our training methods not La Manga. I think the La Manga trips are great for the team.

The Dutch guy was talking about our training methods IN La Manga. We don't do triple sessions back home as far as I'm aware

[brog]

Don't have any stats just stating what I see to be the truth, we had a lot more injuries last season than in previous years from memory.

You don't have any stats but you say, "no one can deny we have more than our fair share of injuries". See if you can spot the contradiction in those 2 statements!

[emerald green]

Liam Craig signs for St Johnstone.

I wonder if Craig will get hounded at St Johnstone in the same way as he was hounded by some at ER?

There was no doubt in my mind he would sign for a decent club when he left Hibs. He was not the greatest I've seen at ER, not by a long long way, but he wasn't the worst either.

[truehibernian]

Strangely enough the player who we missed most at the tail end of the season was the one who came in with the least fanfare and least 'pedigree' - Martin Boyle - I honestly think we would have certainly beaten The Rangers over two games, and the semi final, had he not been injured (and cup tied for the SC). Stubbs was getting him to use his pace in exactly the right area of the pitch and we missed it big time.

I'd rather have Farid, Boyle back 100% than rush them back - similarly I'm sure that Carmichael and Keatings will want to push for a place in the side and prove themselves as soon as they possibly can - after all we are a team who last year wins most of their games. Injured players in let's say a Butcher or Fenlon side would perhaps not be so quick to return to action :cb

Just hope Danny Handling get back fitter and stronger and his injury isn't a huge set-back. :aok:

[Unseen work]

We really need to pull our fingers out and sign some players asap.

We have signed 3 players who were not here last season and have lost about double that. Most of whom were midfielders who contributed a lot over the course of the season.

He has publically stated Alex Sam and Danny are available to leave or stay and fight for a place. Now with Danny injured that is another midfielder who would at very least be in the match day squad.

The key to this season is having a settled team raring to go for the first day of the season and get off to a flyer. We are about 3 signings off that right now imo

[Unseen work]

Strangely enough the player who we missed most at the tail end of the season was the one who came in with the least fanfare and least 'pedigree' - Martin Boyle - I honestly think we would have certainly beaten The Rangers over two games, and the semi final, had he not been injured (and cup tied for the SC). Stubbs was getting him to use his pace in exactly the right area of the pitch and we missed it big time.

I'd rather have Farid, Boyle back 100% than rush them back - similarly I'm sure that Carmichael and Keatings will want to push for a place in the side and prove themselves as soon as they possibly can - after all we are a team who last year wins most of their games. Injured players in let's say a Butcher or Fenlon side would perhaps not be so quick to return to action :cb

Just hope Danny Handling get back fitter and stronger and his injury isn't a huge set-back. :aok:

The only positive hibs and Danny can take for this as it gives them a lot of time with no pressure to develop his body and upper body stength. Hopefully this happens I think he definetley has the ability to play in midfield

[GreenArmyyy!]

You don't have any stats but you say, "no one can deny we have more than our fair share of injuries". See if you can spot the contradiction in those 2 statements!

It doesn't take a book of statistics to reach the understanding that we have had a lot of injuries over the past year.

[truehibernian]

The only positive hibs and Danny can take for this as it gives them a lot of time with no pressure to develop his body and upper body stength. Hopefully this happens I think he definetley has the ability to play in midfield

Hope so bud :aok: however for me Danny has always been a striker - another player who has been tried here there and everywhere - but he's a striker for me all day long (that's for another thread and future argument :greengrin).

[Ozyhibby]

The Dutch guy was talking about our training methods IN La Manga. We don't do triple sessions back home as far as I'm aware

But he could have been carrying a bit of Fatigue from those sessions is what some people are saying.
While I'm sure it's coincidence I am a bit concerned we are having an injury crisis in pre season.

[J-C]

We were looking to punt Handling on loan so i'm not 100% sure it'll have changed much

Who says? Stubbs said they prbably won't get a lot of game time and wouldn't stand in their way if they wanted to go but he also said they're more than happy if they stay and fight for their place, just love how people distort things?

[Ozyhibby]

http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/rangers/1324830-andy-halliday-has-medical-ahead-of-signing-three-year-deal-at-rangers/

Another average signing along the m8.

[bingo70]

Who says? Stubbs said they prbably won't get a lot of game time and wouldn't stand in their way if they wanted to go but he also said they're more than happy if they stay and fight for their place, just love how people distort things?

Stubbs isn't going to come out and say they're not good enough so he's looking to offload them. What he said was normal manager speak for saying they weren't part of his plans and he wants them to move on. You won't find a quote from him saying those exact words though.

[B.H.F.C]

Who says? Stubbs said they prbably won't get a lot of game time and wouldn't stand in their way if they wanted to go but he also said they're more than happy if they stay and fight for their place, just love how people distort things?

Read Sam Stanton in the Evening News today and I think you'll see nobody is distorting anything.

Him, Handling and Harris are available for transfer if they can fix themselves up and want to go. No two ways about it.

[Unseen work]

http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/rangers/1324830-andy-halliday-has-medical-ahead-of-signing-three-year-deal-at-rangers/

Another average signing along the m8.

very good signing for them imo. If we signed him alot of people would be buzzing.

Him and foderingham are 2 very good signings for this league

[ancient hibee]

Read Sam Stanton in the Evening News today and I think you'll see nobody is distorting anything.

Him, Handling and Harris are available for transfer if they can fix themselves up and want to go. No two ways about it.


Considering Stanton takes about 4 paragraphs to say that he is not leaving Hibs permanently but if he goes it'll be on loan I don't really see where you get that from.

[Andy74]

Considering Stanton takes about 4 paragraphs to say that he is not leaving Hibs permanently but if he goes it'll be on loan I don't really see where you get that from.

That's what he maybe thinks!

[B.H.F.C]

Considering Stanton takes about 4 paragraphs to say that he is not leaving Hibs permanently but if he goes it'll be on loan I don't really see where you get that from.

Read the below paragraph.

“The three of us are still very much part of the squad. There’s been no nonsense going on, it’s just if an opportunity arises to leave we are free to go. I’m open minded. I’m happy to stay here but I’m happy to go so long as I go and play – that’s all I want.”

Whether it on loan, permenant or whatever its a transfer either way.

[Brightside]

Was Handling's bad luck? Lots of people have said he looked in a bit of discomfort with his knee before he went down. Player should have listened to his body or coaching staff should have withdrawn him?
Unreal. It really doesn't stop. You guys think he's not good enough anyway so you'll be delighted he won't be playing.

[GreenArmyyy!]

http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/rangers/1324830-andy-halliday-has-medical-ahead-of-signing-three-year-deal-at-rangers/

Another average signing along the m8.

Don't agree with that, think he will be a very good signing for them unfortunately. Would have been happy if he came here although I still think our MF's are better than him.

[ancient hibee]

Read the below paragraph.

“The three of us are still very much part of the squad. There’s been no nonsense going on, it’s just if an opportunity arises to leave we are free to go. I’m open minded. I’m happy to stay here but I’m happy to go so long as I go and play – that’s all I want.”

Whether it on loan, permenant or whatever its a transfer either way.

Read the below paragraph."It's with a view to me coming back and cementing a first team place,that's what I want to do.I am a Hibs player etc.

or "people saying I was going to leave completely.That's never been the case.The manager has never said that to me."

[B.H.F.C]

Read the below paragraph."It's with a view to me coming back and cementing a first team place,that's what I want to do.I am a Hibs player etc.

or "people saying I was going to leave completely.That's never been the case.The manager has never said that to me."

All I said in the first instance was that he was available for transfer. And whether that's temporary or permenant, he is.

[Brightside]

And he's came out and said he wants to stay at Hibs. And stubs hasn't told him to leave.

[bingo70]

And he's came out and said he wants to stay at Hibs. And stubs hasn't told him to leave.

He's under contract so Stubbs can't tell him to leave without paying compo.

Saying he's free to find another club is as close as we can get to telling him he's not in our plans.

[B.H.F.C]

And he's came out and said he wants to stay at Hibs. And stubs hasn't told him to leave.

Hi Danny. Or Sam. Or Alex.

You can't just be told to leave when you have a number of years left on a contract. You can, however, be told that you are available for transfer to another team. Whether this is on a temporary or permenant basis it's a transfer either way. And said players are available to be transferred.

[Lee Marvin]

Hi Danny. Or Sam. Or Alex.

You can't just be told to leave when you have a number of years left on a contract. You can, however, be told that you are available for transfer to another team. Whether this is on a temporary or permenant basis it's a transfer either way. And said players are available to be transferred.

Spot on.

When under contract, being told you are free to leave is the equivalent of saying I don't think you are good enough this year and woukd rather play/buy other players. How anyone can't see that is beyond me.

[BoomtownHibees]

Spot on.

When under contract, being told you are free to leave is the equivalent of saying I don't think you are good enough this year and woukd rather play/buy other players. How anyone can't see that is beyond me.

Some people just don't want to see it, that's the issue

[jacomo]

http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/rangers/1324830-andy-halliday-has-medical-ahead-of-signing-three-year-deal-at-rangers/

Another average signing along the m8.

He's scored against Chelsea!

Wonder if John Eustace signing is now off.

[Scouse Hibee]

Who says? Stubbs said they prbably won't get a lot of game time and wouldn't stand in their way if they wanted to go but he also said they're more than happy if they stay and fight for their place, just love how people distort things?

Because Stanton,Harris and Handling were told exactly that months ago when I posted it on the PM board well before it was in the press.

[Unseen work]

We desperatley need some signings this week. Kiss and paton would be a start.

[brog]

We desperatley need some signings this week. Kiss and paton would be a start.
Many of the recent posts on this thread have been about our players who are currently unfit. Why on earth would you want us to sign a currently unfit player who also possibly has a suspension hanging over him? I want us to sign players who'll improve our squad, i'm afraid I don't include Paton in that category.

[Radium]

Stranraer FC ‏@StranraerFC (https://twitter.com/StranraerFC) 26m26 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/StranraerFC/status/621755657998454784)
Signings | Brian Reid has added former @OfficialKillie (https://twitter.com/OfficialKillie) midfielder Paul Cairney ex-@ThistleTweet (https://twitter.com/ThistleTweet) defender Dale Keenan

[SaulGoodman]

Paul Cairney signs for Stranraer

[brog]

It doesn't take a book of statistics to reach the understanding that we have had a lot of injuries over the past year.

Here's what you said, "but no-one can deny we sustain an above average amount of injuries."
Without looking at the stats & knowing what the average is, everyone can deny that. I suspect every team thinks they are unlucky with injuries.

[bingo70]

Paul Cairney signs for Stranraer

Good signing for them.

[Billy Whizz]

Paul Cairney signs for Stranraer

Needs to get his career back on track

[Ronniekirk]

We desperatley need some signings this week. Kiss and paton would be a start.

Paton not for me ,Kiss I would be happy with but if rumours are true he didn't come on trial to us as his agent wanted him to be able to enter discussions with Motherwell and Hearts then we can probably Kiss goodbye to him signing .
But agree it would be good to have some positive news on the Transfer front given lack of recent activity and handling s injury

[Unseen work]

Many of the recent posts on this thread have been about our players who are currently unfit. Why on earth would you want us to sign a currently unfit player who also possibly has a suspension hanging over him? I want us to sign players who'll improve our squad, i'm afraid I don't include Paton in that category.

He is on his way back from injury, it wasnt a massive injury and from what i understand doesnt normally get many injuries. He is exactly the sort of player we need imo and would do well in our midfield.

[Unseen work]

Paton not for me ,Kiss I would be happy with but if rumours are true he didn't come on trial to us as his agent wanted him to be able to enter discussions with Motherwell and Hearts then we can probably Kiss goodbye to him signing .
But agree it would be good to have some positive news on the Transfer front given lack of recent activity and handling s injury

is there any truth in the motherwell/hearts interest? Or even that he was supposed to play in the trial? Would be dissapointing if he opted out for talks with them. Surely he wouldnt give up a trial as he heard other teams were interested? Wouldnt go down well if m'well/hearts couldnt offer him the same as us and he tried to come back.

[J-C]

Needs to get his career back on track



Needs to stay oot the pubs and chippies.

[bingo70]

is there any truth in the motherwell/hearts interest? Or even that he was supposed to play in the trial? Would be dissapointing if he opted out for talks with them. Surely he wouldnt give up a trial as he heard other teams were interested? Wouldnt go down well if m'well/hearts couldnt offer him the same as us and he tried to come back.

Imo nobody really knew if he was going to play in a match as a trialist, the whole Motherwell/hearts thing was just a way of detracting from that with people still wanting to be seen to be in the know.

[Ronniekirk]

is there any truth in the motherwell/hearts interest? Or even that he was supposed to play in the trial? Would be dissapointing if he opted out for talks with them. Surely he wouldnt give up a trial as he heard other teams were interested? Wouldnt go down well if m'well/hearts couldnt offer him the same as us and he tried to come back.

Didn't see it confirmed else where ,and haven't seen any media statement about him ,so no idea ,but if he was to come on trial to us you would think he would be in the squad for Dunfermline or Ayr ,but was probably someone on here just speculating ,given he seems out of favour at current club ,and has already played in Scotland .

[Ozyhibby]

Some people just don't want to see it, that's the issue

Exactly. There is an affection for the lads among the support, which is fine but it does not change the reality that the boys have been told they are free to leave because the manager does not think they are good enough.
Handling will now stay because of his injury but is likely to face the same choice a year from now.

[fishybeaver]

Exactly. There is an affection for the lads among the support, which is fine but it does not change the reality that the boys have been told they are free to leave because the manager does not think they are good enough.
Handling will now stay because of his injury but is likely to face the same choice a year from now.

I do find it strange that in April Stubbs stated that there was no chance of Dundee keeping Harris as he was very much in his plans, now it is claimed he's free to go?

[Unseen work]

The people itk have went very quietly lately! Is that due to nothing happening or because they have received stick so are not saying anymore?

[J-C]

The people itk have went very quietly lately! Is that due to nothing happening or because they have received stick so are not saying anymore?


I think it's more to do with tighter lips down East Mains way.

[Lago]

I think it's more to do with tighter lips down East Mains way.
So ITK are no longer ITK!!

[Big L]

I am sure KM was under the guidance of John Viola (ViolaFC) however I am not 100% on that.



No, I know all of the above goes on and I also know that parents get sweeteners and so on but I honestly don't believe finances alone dictated this move.
apparently his old man was on celtics books! 5 english premiership teams including Everton and Newcastle were chasing this lad, Hibs had no chance of keeping him. It might also have something to do with the amount of players that actually hit the first team squad and then get cut loose, any good prospect/parents would be concerned with our recent record which might persuade them to take their lads elsewhere, it certainly won't help!

[J-C]

So ITK are no longer ITK!!


They're still ITK just not as much as they used to be, it's been mention on other threads that the info coming from Hibs has been less than in previous years, remember there's new management and hierarchy in charge now, so things will be done differently.

[lochhibs]

its nothing much but a guy i know said he saw stubbs and the tache on a flight back from london yesterday.

[3pm]

https://twitter.com/kenny_millar/status/621792193859186689

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

@Kenny_Millar: As per the @CCP_sport tweet, Hibs on the verge of signing a midfielder. And not Filip Kiss. Should be concluded tomorrow.


Paul Paton?

[andrew70]

its nothing much but a guy i know saw stubbs and the tache on a flight back from london yesterday.

They were down talking to Andy Murray

[bingo70]

@Kenny_Millar: As per the @CCP_sport tweet, Hibs on the verge of signing a midfielder. And not Filip Kiss. Should be concluded tomorrow.


Paul Paton?

He's said in response to another tweet it's not Paton.

[jacomo]

I do find it strange that in April Stubbs stated that there was no chance of Dundee keeping Harris as he was very much in his plans, now it is claimed he's free to go?

Yes I wonder about that too. He never mentioned Alex in his recent interview, just the other two.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

He's said in response to another tweet it's not Paton.

Yeah saw that. Says he's not well known either. Interesting, that's for sure.

[Brightside]

Needs to get his career back on track

Standing outside an offie drinking cider at the last tynecastle Derby isn't exactly top player material.

[The_Horde]

Yeah saw that. Says he's not well known either. Interesting, that's for sure.

Suk?

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Suk?

Don't think so, someone asked Millar if the midfielder in question with Dutch and he replied no, so that rules Suk out.

[Libby Hibby]

Holt?

[Tyler Durden]

Holt?

The other tweets suggest he's unknown to most Scottish fans. Another reply from Kenny Millar suggests it's maybe an Aussie?

[The_Horde]

Don't think so, someone asked Millar if the midfielder in question with Dutch and he replied no, so that rules Suk out.

Ah, but he's not fully Dutch is he..

[Unseen work]

What about the Celtic midfielder? Relatively unknown and I'm sure he is an aussi? Can't remember his name but he was on loan at a spl team recently, Kilmarnock or county?

Jackson Irvine is his name

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

What about the Celtic midfielder? Relatively unknown and I'm sure he is an aussi? Can't remember his name but he was on loan at a spl team recently, Kilmarnock or county?

Jackson Irvine.

[lochhibs]

What about the Celtic midfielder? Relatively unknown and I'm sure he is an aussi? Can't remember his name but he was on loan at a spl team recently, Kilmarnock or county?
rogic is australian.he's just back from a bad injury.not sure who he was on loan at when he got injured.

[Unseen work]

rogic is australian.he's just back from a bad injury.not sure who he was on loan at when he got injured.

The lad I'm on about was Jackson Irvine! Linked with him before

[Tyler Durden]

The Capital City Press Twitter account are the ones reporting that an announcement will be made tomorrow and they say the player was unknown to them. So it won't be anyone who's played in SPFL before surely.

[The_Horde]

The lad I'm on about was Jackson Irvine! Linked with him before

He says the guys quite unknown.

[Unseen work]

He says the guys quite unknown.

I doubt many would know who he is

[bingo70]

The lad I'm on about was Jackson Irvine! Linked with him before

Where has the Australian player link come from?

Kenny Millar saying he's unknown to most Scottish fans so it won't be someone that's been playing in Scotland.

Imo and this is absolute guesswork but it'll be someone released from a championship club down south that nobody will have heard of.