Hibs transfer thread (Last Day Update - Anier / Feruz (both loan) in, None out)

[Bishop Hibee]

We couldn't refuse an offer of £500,000+ given our finances and that he only has a year left of his contract. I can't see him in a Hibs jersey after the transfer window shuts. Hope I'm wrong.

[Lago]

I think Allan might fancy another season at Hibs for his own development.

He's been quite open that he made the wrong choice going to WBA when he did and he struggled when on loan in the Championship before. Add to that Hibs seem to have his medical condition well managed and I have a feeling he might feel he is in a good place for now. Barring a disaster next season the move south will still be there this time next year and he'll still be young enough that there may be an even bigger one if he gets it right this time.
Disagree, don't for one minute think SA believes another season in Scotland's 2nd flight will improve him as a footballer, rather the reverse I would suggest.

[J-C]

As good a player Allan is, the facts are he only has 1 year left and a decent sized offer would be hard to resist, yes it would harm our squad but hopefully the money we get could be ploughed into the team to make it even stronger.

[Greenworld]

A million quid buys you next to nothing these days in england so first bid at that level or just below and he goes with thanks from me.....that money will strengthen hibs in a few key positions.

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[frazeHFC]

I understand that a club like ours can't refuse a decent bid especially in the 2nd tier, but losing Allan would certainly drop the excitement I have for the new season. He's that good a player to watch. Would be gutted if he left for any amount.

[Smartie]

Disagree, don't for one minute think SA believes another season in Scotland's 2nd flight will improve him as a footballer, rather the reverse I would suggest.

I'm not sure.

Scott had a good season last season, a very good one. But he did have a slow start to the season and we didn't go up in the end.

By staying he can prove that he can play an excellent season from start to finish. He could win a medal, he'll have to raise his game and perform at Ibrox a couple of times. We're going to be in cup competitions that will provide opposition from a higher league.

He may get fitter and more confident with more time training with Stubbs and co and may prove that he is an even better player with better players around him.

We shouldn't sell ourselves short in terms of what we can offer players. We need to get promoted this year, no doubt about that because this league isn't great. But the challenge of getting out of it might appeal to some players.

We need to get a reputation amongst players as being a place to go that is good for your career progression. A few players on an upward spiral in their careers thrown in with a core of our own youngsters with maybe the odd bit of experience there too.

Scott Allan would be insane to be playing in the Scottish First Division 2016-2017. But I don't think one more year would be bad for him at all.

What he does after that is his business but if he does go then I'd like to think we can wave him off with our best wishes knowing that he's put in a shift for the duration of his contract with us.

[IanM]

We couldn't refuse an offer of £500,000+ given our finances and that he only has a year left of his contract. I can't see him in a Hibs jersey after the transfer window shuts. Hope I'm wrong.

If we sold say another 4k season tickets we could turn it down but that's the dilemma we face. We've always been a selling club but this season we MUST keep our best players. No amount of money will change that. Happy for Scott to leave for nothing at the end of the season, hopefully with a champions medal

[Smartie]

A million quid buys you next to nothing these days in england so first bid at that level or just below and he goes with thanks from me.....that money will strengthen hibs in a few key positions.

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I think we've suffered for a few years though of selling good players and replacing them with several substandard ones and that is a cycle we need to break.

Our first team doesn't look that bad, I think we're nearly there. We have youngsters who can provide cover.

I'd hope that we still have enough within our budget to bring about the necessary improvements to the squad without having to sell Scott Allan to fund them.

Without Allan we'd be back to the drawing board and our team would look very different.

[Greenworld]

I think we've suffered for a few years though of selling good players and replacing them with several substandard ones and that is a cycle we need to break.

Our first team doesn't look that bad, I think we're nearly there. We have youngsters who can provide cover.

I'd hope that we still have enough within our budget to bring about the necessary improvements to the squad without having to sell Scott Allan to fund them.

Without Allan we'd be back to the drawing board and our team would look very different.
I think we are a different beast now and I am confident we can replace any that leave with something equal to or better.
There is a danger of over hyping a player. Scott allan is a very good player no doubt about that but I dont at this stage see any premier league teams bagging the door down.
It may yet happen early doors.

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[Jim44]

I'm not sure.

Scott had a good season last season, a very good one. But he did have a slow start to the season and we didn't go up in the end.

By staying he can prove that he can play an excellent season from start to finish. He could win a medal, he'll have to raise his game and perform at Ibrox a couple of times. We're going to be in cup competitions that will provide opposition from a higher league.

He may get fitter and more confident with more time training with Stubbs and co and may prove that he is an even better player with better players around him.

We shouldn't sell ourselves short in terms of what we can offer players. We need to get promoted this year, no doubt about that because this league isn't great. But the challenge of getting out of it might appeal to some players.

We need to get a reputation amongst players as being a place to go that is good for your career progression. A few players on an upward spiral in their careers thrown in with a core of our own youngsters with maybe the odd bit of experience there too.

Scott Allan would be insane to be playing in the Scottish First Division 2016-2017. But I don't think one more year would be bad for him at all.

What he does after that is his business but if he does go then I'd like to think we can wave him off with our best wishes knowing that he's put in a shift for the duration of his contract with us.


I understand that a club like ours can't refuse a decent bid especially in the 2nd tier, but losing Allan would certainly drop the excitement I have for the new season. He's that good a player to watch. Would be gutted if he left for any amount.


If we sold say another 4k season tickets we could turn it down but that's the dilemma we face. We've always been a selling club but this season we MUST keep our best players. No amount of money will change that. Happy for Scott to leave for nothing at the end of the season, hopefully with a champions medal

I'm pleased to see that there are still some among us who don't want SA sold off, no matter how good an offer. In the space of a few weeks we seem to have gone from keeping our most important playmaker, at all costs, to accepting any good offer, as long as it's not to Sevco and preferably to England. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush (I'm not so sure that there is the quality of player out there who would effectively replace SA, at the price we could afford from his sale).

[J-C]

I'm pleased to see that there are still some among us who don't want SA sold off, no matter how good an offer. In the space of a few weeks we seem to have gone from keeping our most important playmaker, at all costs, to accepting any good offer, as long as it's not to Sevco and preferably to England. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush (I'm not so sure that there is the quality of player out there who would effectively replace SA, at the price we could afford from his sale).


I don't anyone wants to see him sold off but if he does go, I'd prefer if he went south than west and make sure we get enough for him.

[Pray4Marc]

Looking at the way our club has operated in the past, we have never re-invested in the playing side of the business after selling our prize asset. I am not sure why people think this is going to change.

Financially we in a sound place and selling Allan would send out the wrong message.

[Ozyhibby]

I don't anyone wants to see him sold off but if he does go, I'd prefer if he went south than west and make sure we get enough for him.

Reading this thread, it appears a few would happily sell him of and use the money to buy a few lesser players.
Not a strategy that has worked for us before but who knows, this time might just be different. [emoji3]
We need to keep Allan if we want promoted.

[J-C]

Reading this thread, it appears a few would happily sell him of and use the money to buy a few lesser players.
Not a strategy that has worked for us before but who knows, this time might just be different. [emoji3]
We need to keep Allan if we want promoted.


Well I for one don't want him sold but as I said, if he does go, I'd rather he went south than west and I'd like to see the money re invested, which I think would happen. Unfortunately we have a prize asset and it's hard keeping a hold of these things and I think we all knew it was going to be hard to not sell if a real proper offer came in, whatever happens we must trust Stubbs.

[PeterboroHibee]

Well I for one don't want him sold but as I said, if he does go, I'd rather he went south than west and I'd like to see the money re invested, which I think would happen. Unfortunately we have a prize asset and it's hard keeping a hold of these things and I think we all knew it was going to be hard to not sell if a real proper offer came in, whatever happens we must trust Stubbs.

Spot on. I dont think any fan would want Allan to be sold, but if an offer came in that was too good to turn down, we probably have to go with it (especially as Allan only has a year left on his contract). I also think Stubbs will have plans in place should Allan go, and I have every faith he will have quality replacements in mind!

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Anyone heard anything about Oxley on a perm deal with us?

[Billy Whizz]

Anyone heard anything about Oxley on a perm deal with us?

Roughie had a perm

[cmcd]

Roughie had a perm

How many times do Alan Stubbs and Scott Allan got to say he is going to honour his contract ?????????

[jacomo]

A move to a club like Ipswich would be of interest to Scott. A sizeable offer would also be of interest to Hibs. There comes a stage when it will be more beneficial to sell but I dont know where that stage is. £750k maybe?

Why are so many on here wishing our best players away?

AFAIK the interest from Ispwich is unsubstantiated. DR doing their best to tap up our players - if they can't help get them to Sevco, they will try and destabilise our squad by any means necessary.

Let's hope SA stays. Hibs have been good for him, but he's still developing as a player. Another season at ER will help him improve.

[Greenworld]

1000

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[J-C]

How many times do Alan Stubbs and Scott Allan got to say he is going to honour his contract ?????????


What's that got to do with Roughie's perm ????????

[J-C]

1000

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1000 what? who? why? when? just typing 100 makes no sense?

[Greenworld]

Reading this thread, it appears a few would happily sell him of and use the money to buy a few lesser players.
Not a strategy that has worked for us before but who knows, this time might just be different. [emoji3]
We need to keep Allan if we want promoted.
Why would it necessarily be lesser players.....I would say its not like before very different circumstances...I would love for him to stay and add to that with even better players but if he goes then im comfortable that we will replace him with = or better

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[jacomo]

Why would it necessarily be lesser players.....I would say its not like before very different circumstances...I would love for him to stay and add to that with even better players but if he goes then im comfortable that we will replace him with = or better

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Big question mark there I'd say.

Keeping him is a powerful statement of intent. It says that team performance is important above all else this season. Which it is.

[Lago]

Big question mark there I'd say.

Keeping him is a powerful statement of intent. It says that team performance is important above all else this season. Which it is.
Having followed hibs since 1970, one thing I know for sure, every player has his price, Stein, Blackley, Brownley, Bremner, Marinelo, Juke Box, Brown, Thomson, Jones and Murphy, I could go on but you get the picture I'm sure.

[erin go bragh]

Why would it necessarily be lesser players.....I would say its not like before very different circumstances...I would love for him to stay and add to that with even better players but if he goes then im comfortable that we will replace him with = or better

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We won't win the league without SA . Imo
Can see Hibs offering a hefty wage increase if SA signs an extension.
That way ,everyone is a winner . We don't lose him for nothing in Jan . The extra money we pay him gets recouped when he does move on .( hopefully to the premiership.

GGTTH

[GreenPJ]

If he is happy to stay here but recognising his desire to play at a high level then surely a decent increase in wage associated with a contract extension will be more than compensated by a larger transfer fee received either in Jan or next summer.

[Ozyhibby]

If we do sell Scott Allan, will the club bring out an interim set of accounts quickly after so I can print them out and wave them in my Jambo mates faces?
They'll be gutted.[emoji6]

[Eyrie]

If we do sell Scott Allan, will the club bring out an interim set of accounts quickly after so I can print them out and wave them in my Jambo mates faces?
They'll be gutted.[emoji6]
You'll find that air freshener is more effective :wink:

[Brooster]

Anyone heard anything about Oxley on a perm deal with us?

Yes. Should be announced very soon.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Yes. Should be announced very soon.

Cheers Brooster. Will Rangers apparent interest in Jason Holt affect our chances of getting him do you think?

[Lee Marvin]

Yes. Should be announced very soon.

Hope this doesn't happen. I think he is bang average. Would be the first disappointing signing of the summer imo.

[Col2]

So coming up to end of June and 5 weeks until new season this Saturday how are we placed re squad (I will assume Oxley signs)?

Put simply.

Our first choice goalie is the same - NO CHANGE

Our defence is exactly the same - NO CHANGE

Our midfield - We have lost regular players in Robertson and McGeouch and to a lesser extent Liam Craig. However we have secured Fyvie and Boyle (we only had them for 2nd half) and we have secured Carmichael. - WEAKER (better width and pace but weaker centrally and defensively)

Upfront - We have the same three first choice strikers (Farid was out 80% last year) and with Keating joining we are in better place - IMPROVED

We finished 2nd last year after a bad start but couldn't beat a poor 3rd place Rangers. Logic suggests The Rangers will be better next season.

Therefore to get back on par with last season we need 1 probably 2 central midfielders. We also need cover in defence at CH (Paul Watson likely) and back up goalie.

Taken account of a likely improved Rangers and assuming St Mirren don't do a Hearts then we NEED to be better next season than last season. But we have to remember how poor start we had and under prepared we were.

Therefore in order I think we need minimum:-

2 x central midfielders (better than McGeouch, Robertson and Craig) - defensive midfielder (eg McGinn) and one goal scoring (eg Holt).
1 x centre half
1 x back up goalie
1 x left back

So 5 minimum?

[erin go bragh]

Holt and McGinn would be a tidy bit of business . But with Sevco sniffing about Holt . It wouldn't surprise me if they target McGinn also . In Stubbs we trust .

GGTTH

[Ronniekirk]

Hope this doesn't happen. I think he is bang average. Would be the first disappointing signing of the summer imo.

Was hoping for someone new ,but at least we know what we are getting with him and if Stubbs has gone back in for him he must feel he can improve him But those cross balls that cost us dear last season will still be a problem if we have exactly same defence you would think

[PeterboroHibee]

Therefore to get back on par with last season we need 1 probably 2 central midfielders. We also need cover in defence at CH (Paul Watson likely) and back up goalie.

Taken account of a likely improved Rangers and assuming St Mirren don't do a Hearts then we NEED to be better next season than last season. But we have to remember how poor start we had and under prepared we were.

I think another way of looking at it is weve largely managed to keep together a squad that, after an explainable bad start, was the 2nd best team in the league. The defence was good last season, hopefully having developed further as a unit, and will be strengthened by Watson (if true). When was the last time we kept an entire defence together?! Weve also addressed problem areas last season by keeping Boyle and signing Carmichael, whilst Keatings is a steady signing for this level (and hopefully improves upon Djedje). We are currently weaker in midfield in terms of depth, but I assume the reason for letting the likes of Craig and Robertson go is we are targeting better players.

[Ronniekirk]

So coming up to end of June and 5 weeks until new season this Saturday how are we placed re squad (I will assume Oxley signs)?

Put simply.

Our first choice goalie is the same - NO CHANGE

Our defence is exactly the same - NO CHANGE

Our midfield - We have lost regular players in Robertson and McGeouch and to a lesser extent Liam Craig. However we have secured Fyvie and Boyle (we only had them for 2nd half) and we have secured Carmichael. - WEAKER (better width and pace but weaker centrally and defensively)

Upfront - We have the same three first choice strikers (Farid was out 80% last year) and with Keating joining we are in better place - IMPROVED

We finished 2nd last year after a bad start but couldn't beat a poor 3rd place Rangers. Logic suggests The Rangers will be better next season.

Therefore to get back on par with last season we need 1 probably 2 central midfielders. We also need cover in defence at CH (Paul Watson likely) and back up goalie.

Taken account of a likely improved Rangers and assuming St Mirren don't do a Hearts then we NEED to be better next season than last season. But we have to remember how poor start we had and under prepared we were.

Therefore in order I think we need minimum:-

2 x central midfielders (better than McGeouch, Robertson and Craig) - defensive midfielder (eg McGinn) and one goal scoring (eg Holt).
1 x centre half
1 x back up goalie
1 x left back

So 5 minimum?

I don't disagree with your logic but if the ox signs and Watson is signed as defensive back up ,can't see us getting both holt and McGinn ,but then again at start of last season if you told me would have had Allan Mcgeouch and Fyfie as our midfield I wouldn't of believed it possible ,so in Stubbs we Trust

[Libby Hibby]

If the Oxley murmurings turn out to be true, i, for one, would be quite happy with this, good goalie, never let us down and seems to be a cracking lad to have around the changing room...best keeper in the league last season, by far...good business again Hibs if true, keep it up

[Jim44]

Having followed hibs since 1970, one thing I know for sure, every player has his price, Stein, Blackley, Brownley, Bremner, Marinelo, Juke Box, Brown, Thomson, Jones and Murphy, I could go on but you get the picture I'm sure.

The big difference is that when we were selling these players we weren't in the cr@ppy position in the Championship that we are in just now. If we don't go up next season I would genuinely fear for the future.

[Alex Trager]

If the Oxley murmurings turn out to be true, i, for one, would be quite happy with this, good goalie, never let us down and seems to be a cracking lad to have around the changing room...best keeper in the league last season, by far...good business again Hibs if true, keep it up

I can't help but totally disagree with you about the best keeper in the league.

He cost us too many goals IMO.




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[Lago]

The big difference is that when we were selling these players we weren't in the cr@ppy position in the Championship that we are in just now. If we don't go up next season I would genuinely fear for the future.
Totally agree

[Thecat23]

If the Oxley murmurings turn out to be true, i, for one, would be quite happy with this, good goalie, never let us down and seems to be a cracking lad to have around the changing room...best keeper in the league last season, by far...good business again Hibs if true, keep it up

Alexander was by far the best keeper in the league! I wouldn't put Oxley in the top 2! Also he did let us down a couple of times with losing silly goals.

[JimBHibees]

I can't help but totally disagree with you about the best keeper in the league.

He cost us too many goals IMO.




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Such as?

[erin go bragh]

Ipswich just sold Ing's to Bournemouth for 8m . Hope I'm wrong but if they are interested in Allan .

GGTTH

[Brooster]

Such as?

Raith away for starters. Sold the winner.

[bill the hibby]

Such as?

Alloa in the cup, let the ball trundle through his legs, I wouldn't be excited if he signed permanently.

[Cod Boy]

Every goalkeeper makes mistakes.In the Raith game that has been mentioned Hibs should have been out of sight before they had a chance to score a winner.

[Gordy M]

Every goalkeeper makes mistakes.In the Raith game that has been mentioned Hibs should have been out of sight before they had a chance to score a winner.
Was just about to post the exact same, every keeper makes mistakes. The fact its only 2/3 over a season shows how consistent he was. Bet man utd are glad some posters on here werent managing their club at the start of the season, a few years ago....de gea....who is now gonna become the most expensive keeper in the world wouldve been out on his ear!!

[Baldy Foghorn]

Ipswich just sold Ing's to Bournemouth for 8m . Hope I'm wrong but if they are interested in Allan .

GGTTH

Tyrone Mings for an undisclosed fee

[Greencore]

Ipswich just sold Ing's to Bournemouth for 8m . Hope I'm wrong but if they are interested in Allan .

GGTTH
So 1m+ for a player on a one year deal. Not going to happen.

[cmcd]

What's that got to do with Roughie's perm ????????

Nothing posted in a hurry 😖

[erin go bragh]

Mings . My bad . Reported as 8m on Ipswich Towns fans news Twitter .

GGTTH


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[Smartie]

Oxley was decent. Nothing like the best in the league (Alexander, McDonald and the Raith keeper for starters were better) but he did fine and he might improve.

A collective winning mentality would help sort out many of the silly goals we lost last season. Games like the collapse against Falkirk at home, the late goal at home vs Livingston - these are goals where the entire team were at fault defensively, not just Oxley.

If we got a bit of momentum going then I think we'd stop seeing these things.

I liked the fact that he committed to punching the ball a lot. He dropped way to many that he tried to catch although they never led to goals.

His distribution was also fantastic - early balls could utilise the pace of Keatings, Carmichael and Harris or even a well placed one to the head of Farid could create chances via knockdowns. I could actually see him being quite a creative player on the break.

[Bronson]

Oxley on a permanent deal would be very underwhelming, he's a poor standard of goalkeeper and fills me with zero confidence.

Not looking to needlessly bash the guy but it's my honest opinion.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Mings . My bad . Reported as 8m on Ipswich Towns fans news Twitter .

GGTTH


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Ipswich paid £10k for him in 2012. Nice profit

[Smartie]

Ipswich paid £10k for him in 2012. Nice profit

I can only imagine how "underwhelmed" their fans would have been at the time though.

[Hamish]

Oxley on a permanent deal would be very underwhelming, he's a poor standard of goalkeeper and fills me with zero confidence.

Not looking to needlessly bash the guy but it's my honest opinion.


It's the same as the SA situation. We have to trust AS and his backroom team, particularly Alan Combe, over this. Sure they will have been offered keepers from agents and have looked at all options and decided Ox is the best choice.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I can only imagine how "underwhelmed" their fans would have been at the time though.

:greengrin:greengrin

[Libby Hibby]

I can only imagine how "underwhelmed" their fans would have been at the time though.

Haha, imagine

[marinello59]

Alloa in the cup, let the ball trundle through his legs, I wouldn't be excited if he signed permanently.

No he didn't. He mishandled it but did you see the state of their artificial pitch? Fontaine had a nightmare that day due to the inconsistent bounce on the pitch. Maybe we shouldn't have signed him up again.

[HappyHanlon]

Oxley on a permanent deal would be very underwhelming, he's a poor standard of goalkeeper and fills me with zero confidence.

Not looking to needlessly bash the guy but it's my honest opinion.

But you are, as are a lot of fans by the looks of it.

Oxley will be superb for us.

[B.H.F.C]

But you are, as are a lot of fans by the looks of it.

Oxley will be superb for us.

There is a difference between bashing someone and having an opinion. Some folk just don't really rate him as a goalie. Just like you think he'll be good.

[Aldo]

We finished 2nd and IIRC we conceded the 2nd least amount of goals in the league after the Yams.

That says it all for me!

Yeah he made mistakes but he conceded less than the others so he's 2nd best keeper in the league behind Alexander so that's FACT!!

[Bronson]

But you are, as are a lot of fans by the looks of it.

Oxley will be superb for us.

So all of these people that share my opinion are just needlessly bashing the guy? Maybe we're onto something you know, maybe he's just not very good?:hmmm:

[PeterboroHibee]

We finished 2nd and IIRC we conceded the 2nd least amount of goals in the league after the Yams.

That says it all for me!

Yeah he made mistakes but he conceded less than the others so he's 2nd best keeper in the league behind Alexander so that's FACT!!

Not only that, we had the third best defence in Scotland (behind Celtic and Hearts). If Oxley signs, weve kept that defence together, so daft people are complaining about it.

[Libby Hibby]

We finished 2nd and IIRC we conceded the 2nd least amount of goals in the league after the Yams.

That says it all for me!

Yeah he made mistakes but he conceded less than the others so he's 2nd best keeper in the league behind Alexander so that's FACT!!

With that theory then De Gea is the 4th best keeper in the Premiership...I know what you are trying to say but in my opinion, there was no one in last seasons league than I'd rather have in goal than Oxley, he was reliable, a good kicker, commanding and confident, 3 attribute previous Hibs keepers of the past 10 years or so could not claim...if he does sign, I think he will be a great addition to our side

[Aldo]

With that theory then De Gea is the 4th best keeper in the Premiership...I know what you are trying to say but in my opinion, there was no one in last season league than I'd rather have than Oxley, he was reliable, a good kicker, commanding and confident, 3 attribute previous Hibs keepers of the past 10 years or so could not claim...if he does sign, I think he will be a great addition to our side


I know that but let's face it pretty much every theory is flawed in some way shape or form! ;-)

He will improve and if we get him in a 2 year deal then I'll be happy!

[SHODAN]

I would rather we signed Williams than Oxley, but Oxley would fill me more with confidence than another pot shot at more potential dross goalkeepers like the ones we've had over the past ten years.

[Smartie]

Not only that, we had the third best defence in Scotland (behind Celtic and Hearts). If Oxley signs, weve kept that defence together, so daft people are complaining about it.

Even then I thought we lost a few too many silly goals and we gave a few big ones away at big times in important games.

That doesn't necessarily mean that it is a personnel issue. Too much chopping and changing can lead to problems with continuity and be counter-productive.

Keeping them together, working and training them and maybe giving them a bit more cover from midfield may yet prove to be good enough.


There is a constant craving for change amongst football fans. Oxley did fine for us last season and will be better for having that season under his belt. I like the idea of consistency of selection and keeping the defensive unit together. It would be good to get another keeper to keep him on his toes though.

[Beefster]

Imagine if we wrote off defenders for costing us goals or strikers for missing them (although a few do this) like we write off goalkeepers.

[Aldo]

Imagine if we wrote off defenders for costing us goals or strikers for missing them (although a few do this) like we write off goalkeepers.

Indeed!

[DH1875]

With that theory then De Gea is the 4th best keeper in the Premiership...I know what you are trying to say but in my opinion, there was no one in last seasons league than I'd rather have in goal than Oxley, he was reliable, a good kicker, commanding and confident, 3 attribute previous Hibs keepers of the past 10 years or so could not claim...if he does sign, I think he will be a great addition to our side

I'm confused. Are you saying De Gea is the best keeper in the EPL or that he isn't in the top 4 keepers in the EPL?

[matty_f]

I'm happy with Oxley, I think he got blamed for a few goals last season that in hindsight, he had no chance with.

Yes, he had a couple of mistakes but so did every goalkeeper. The important thing for me is that we have a consistent back line, which will help the whole team imho.

[GreenCastle]

Happy with Oxley.

I think he was better than Williams and decent with the ball at his feet.

He's younger and will continue to get better with 1st team football.

Good talker - back 4 know him - he knows them so consistency is also important.

[Libby Hibby]

I know that but let's face it pretty much every theory is flawed in some way shape or form! ;-)

He will improve and if we get him in a 2 year deal then I'll be happy!

Agreed on both sentences

[lucky]

Said on many threads through out the season that Oxley is not any good. I'd be really disappointed if he is resigned as I believe there lots of better keepers out there

[SunshineOnLeith]

Oxley's fine. Anyone who thinks it's as simple as 'there's heaps of better goalies around' should go and read that thread about our goalies over the last ten years.

[Ronniekirk]

I know that but let's face it pretty much every theory is flawed in some way shape or form! ;-)

He will improve and if we get him in a 2 year deal then I'll be happy!

Including Einstiens Theory of Relativity Aldo :confused:

[Ozyhibby]

Alexander was by far the best keeper in the league! I wouldn't put Oxley in the top 2! Also he did let us down a couple of times with losing silly goals.

Correct.

[AgentDaleCooper]

Including Einstiens Theory of Relativity Aldo :confused:


Godel's incompleteness theorems. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del's_incompleteness_theorems)

:smug:

[Waxy]

Oxley would do fine. Best form of defence is attack.

[Northernhibee]

Now that Liam Craig has gone Oxley well be the new scapegoat of choice then.

[mcfly]

Said on many threads through out the season that Oxley is not any good. I'd be really disappointed if he is resigned as I believe there lots of better keepers out there

Well name some names of better goalies in our price range.?? Face facts we are a lower league Scottish team who don't have a lot of money.

Trust the manager if mark oxley is what we can afford then get behind him.

What is it with hibs fans slating players before a ball is kicked.

[Winston Ingram]

I rate Oxley and he is under rated by a few on here.

He had a couple of mistakes last year but technically he's good on crosses, good shot stopper and his kicking is 1st class. He's only 24 so has his best years ahead of him.

[Joe's ice cream]

Said on many threads through out the season that Oxley is not any good. I'd be really disappointed if he is resigned as I believe there lots of better keepers out there

As another poster had asked would you care to name some of the other keepers we should be realistically going for as a championship club who are also available to bring in at the moment?

[DH1875]

I quite liked the boy at QOS. Think he was on loan from St Johnstone and don't think he'll be their first choice keeper this season. Anyone know if he's staying there or going back out on loan.

[Lucius Apuleius]

No problem with the Ox coming back.

[DH1875]

See Falkirk are getting the keeper that was on loan at Dumbarton last season. Another good keeper IMO.

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

No problem with the Ox coming back.

TBF Ox has only had his second full season as a pro footballer. he is only 24. so he WILL get better. i think we would be getting a player just about to come into his prime.

Dimitrios Konstantopoulos for boro was arguably the best keeper in the championship last year and he is 36 and has not been a regular keeper throughout his career.

[BSEJVT]

The simple truth of the matter is that we could have Neuer and de Gea on the books and some folk would think we should have Cech or someone else.

For the money we are paying Oxley is a good option, not perfect but with his best years ahead of him.

Quite happy if he signs

[andrew70]

TBF Ox has only had his second full season as a pro footballer. he is only 24. so he WILL get better. i think we would be getting a player just about to come into his prime.

Dimitrios Konstantopoulos for boro was arguably the best keeper in the championship last year and he is 36 and has not been a regular keeper throughout his career.

And even he made mistakes last season.

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

And even he made mistakes last season.

people are comparing Oxley with the likes of alexander and even mcDonald. but these keepers have so much more experience than him.

[andrew70]

people are comparing Oxley with the likes of alexander and even mcDonald. but these keepers have so much more experience than him.

Correct, it's crazy the stick Oxley is getting. A good, young, goalkeeper with plenty ability and even more potential. He'll learn more by playing every week and another full season underbelt will stand him in good stead going forward.

I see plenty of scope for this move to turn out and be a potential money-spinner for Hibs.

Play him, develop him, improve him and sell him for a big profit back down south. If it doesn't work out then fair enough but we've nothing to lose and if we don't get promoted it certainly won't be down to him.

Happy to have you back Mark (when confirmed).

[#FromTheCapital]

Oxley will do just fine for the level we're at. No problem at all if he signs.

[Northern Hibby]

Big Ben and The Ox battling it out for the No1 spot, that would be actually quite mouth watering :drool:

[E10 Rifle]

TBF Ox has only had his second full season as a pro footballer. he is only 24. so he WILL get better. i think we would be getting a player just about to come into his prime.



I wasn't the biggest fan of Oxley but this is a fair point, although I would contest we're a few seasons off seeing him in his prime, nonetheless the above is still true. Pity we couldn't step up one place though and go for Eldin Jakupovic from Hull instead of Ox, but if he comes back fair enough he's obviously enjoyed it here and wants to commit to the Hibees.

[eastmainsmsh]

Be happy with Oxley again

[Hfc_Since1875]

I quite liked the boy at QOS. Think he was on loan from St Johnstone and don't think he'll be their first choice keeper this season. Anyone know if he's staying there or going back out on loan.

He is going back to be competition for Alan Mannus

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/sport/football/st-johnstone/alan-mannus-refuses-to-take-st-johnstone-no-1-jersey-for-granted-1.886869

I was impressed whenever I saw him last year

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

I wasn't the biggest fan of Oxley but this is a fair point, although I would contest we're a few seasons off seeing him in his prime, nonetheless the above is still true. Pity we couldn't step up one place though and go for Eldin Jakupovic from Hull instead of Ox, but if he comes back fair enough he's obviously enjoyed it here and wants to commit to the Hibees.

we probably couldnt afford his wages. the fact Ox is a young unexperienced keeper means we can affod him and develop him like 'andrew70' sugested. i think for the position we are in and the low number of season tickets we sell we cant be looking at international highly experienced players. unless we unearth a gem in sauzee. whos career is coming to an end.

thats my take on it anyway.

[bill the hibby]

Seen oxley in my work around an hour ago, which is based in Edinburgh...strange for him to be up here if he wasn't signing?

[brog]

Like many on here I struggle to remember Mark making many outstanding saves. Conversely, with the notable exception of Alloa in the Cup I don't remember many howlers. Dealing only in facts, he had 15 clean sheets out of 45 games. Given we only had 1 in our first 11 games when Fontaine had not arrived, Hanlon was injured, Booth was at RB & Mickey Nelson was featuring, that's over 40% clean sheets for the rest of the season. Those are excellent stats which helped us actually have the best defence in latter part of the season. He's a young keeper who can only improve so let's get right behind him if he is signing.
PS I remember a keeper called Dino Zoff conceding 5 at ER, whatever happened to him? :wink:

[Brightside]

2 year deal for Ox today im told. I'm hoping that's wrong. I'm not a huge fan.

[Ozyhibby]

Correct, it's crazy the stick Oxley is getting. A good, young, goalkeeper with plenty ability and even more potential. He'll learn more by playing every week and another full season underbelt will stand him in good stead going forward.

I see plenty of scope for this move to turn out and be a potential money-spinner for Hibs.

Play him, develop him, improve him and sell him for a big profit back down south. If it doesn't work out then fair enough but we've nothing to lose and if we don't get promoted it certainly won't be down to him.

Happy to have you back Mark (when confirmed).

Which is all well and good but I think it's far mor important that we win this league this season. We need promotion more than we need money spinning player sales.

[Onion]

IMO Oxley is fine for the Championship. We just need to avoid having a calamitous goalie and concentrate on getting the back 4 solid.

[jacomo]

Well name some names of better goalies in our price range.?? Face facts we are a lower league Scottish team who don't have a lot of money.

Trust the manager if mark oxley is what we can afford then get behind him.

What is it with hibs fans slating players before a ball is kicked.

:agree:

AS has a limited budget and has clearly invested in some quality players so far.

If the Ox is our man then let's get behind him.

[Winston Ingram]

And even he made mistakes last season.

Howler in the playoff v Brentford.

[andrew70]

Which is all well and good but I think it's far mor important that we win this league this season. We need promotion more than we need money spinning player sales.

We'll get promoted. If we don't it definitely won't be because of Oxley. For example we failed to get promoted last year because of our strikers failing to convert as many chances as they should have done.

Oxley is a good 'keeper but will make mistakes although continuity is important. That as well as building a team for not only this season but the next 2 or 3 after that for when we are back in the premier league.

Every player has their positives/negatives and that what great about these boards but I don't understand the flak that Oxley takes from some quarters both on here and in the stands.

I've only felt uncomfortable with him in goals once or twice in the whole of last season.

The team win and lose as a whole. People say he's not convincing coming for crosses, I can't remember him flapping too much and perhaps if these crosses were stopped at source their wouldn't be such great debate.

It looks easy from the stands coming for crosses you need to precise and that only comes from playing games but being a goalkeeper you are completely on your own, one mistake gets highlighted but a striker who misses chance after chance but takes his tenth one is lauded as a hero at times.

We could maybe have done better in some of our eyes but Stubbs and his coaching staff are happy with Ox, promotion is paramount but value alongside promotion would be even better in the long run for our club.

[PeterboroHibee]

Like many on here I struggle to remember Mark making many outstanding saves. Conversely, with the notable exception of Alloa in the Cup I don't remember many howlers. Dealing only in facts, he had 15 clean sheets out of 45 games. Given we only had 1 in our first 11 games when Fontaine had not arrived, Hanlon was injured, Booth was at RB & Mickey Nelson was featuring, that's over 40% clean sheets for the rest of the season. Those are excellent stats which helped us actually have the best defence in latter part of the season. He's a young keeper who can only improve so let's get right behind him if he is signing.
PS I remember a keeper called Dino Zoff conceding 5 at ER, whatever happened to him? :wink:

All of which suggests hes actually a fairly solid goalkeeper. Our defensive stats last season were very good, and are even better when you take out the odd blip or our bad start.

Im curious as to what those who dont like Oxley look for in a keeper?

[Brightside]

I'd rather a keeper who commanded his area and was more vocal with his defence. He's not a bad keeper though.

[worcesterhibby]

would be happy to have him back

[mentalhibee]

2 year deal for Ox today im told. I'm hoping that's wrong. I'm not a huge fan.

Would be happy with that, thought Oxley was decent last season. Best distribution I've seen from a hibs gk. Can only see him improving.

[Leithenhibby]

Like many on here I struggle to remember Mark making many outstanding saves. Conversely, with the notable exception of Alloa in the Cup I don't remember many howlers. Dealing only in facts, he had 15 clean sheets out of 45 games. Given we only had 1 in our first 11 games when Fontaine had not arrived, Hanlon was injured, Booth was at RB & Mickey Nelson was featuring, that's over 40% clean sheets for the rest of the season. Those are excellent stats which helped us actually have the best defence in latter part of the season. He's a young keeper who can only improve so let's get right behind him if he is signing.
PS I remember a keeper called Dino Zoff conceding 5 at ER, whatever happened to him? :wink:


BOOM This for me :agree:

[dangermouse]

I'd rather a keeper who commanded his area and was more vocal with his defence. He's not a bad keeper though.

He communicates with the defence all the time.

[J-C]

Another thing with the Ox is he's built up a good friendship with Fontaine which can only help the defence.

[nellio]

Wouldnt be adverse to Ox coming back but does need to tighen up a few things. Needs to come out more, there were a few times last year when he could have come out and got the ball but left Hanlon to clear it. Also tries to punch as well instead of catching it. Always makes me uneasy. Appears to be a decent shot stopper though.

Like a few have said it was his first full season and he will improve.

[JimBHibees]

Raith away for starters. Sold the winner.

No he didnt horrific defending in front of him.

[erin go bragh]

I rate Oxley and he is under rated by a few on here.

He had a couple of mistakes last year but technically he's good on crosses, good shot stopper and his kicking is 1st class. He's only 24 so has his best years ahead of him.

I'll be happy if we do sign the Ox . He was outstanding in our 2-0 win at Castle Greyskull . And imho he will improve after last season .

GGTTH

[mentalhibee]

Any update on the holt rumours?

[SaulGoodman]

Needs to score more IMO. 1 goal is not a good enough return in the championship.

[Hibs History]

Any update on the holt rumours?

Last I heard, read on here, that a few .net posters were confident he had been in to discuss terms with Hibs.

But the Sunday Mail (Sunday version of the Daily Record) had him speaking with therangers too.

[Hermit Crab]

Any update on the holt rumours?

Seemingly his agent is trying to get him a move to der Hun

[HappyHanlon]

2 year deal for Ox today im told. I'm hoping that's wrong. I'm not a huge fan.

Superb! Happy with that.

[SHODAN]

Superb! Happy with that.

:agree:

Whilst I'd prefer Williams, we could do far worse than Oxley.

[Biggie]

Holt seems a decent enough player, and if we get him it'll be good to see how he fits in our midfield......conversely, if he goes to the huns, that wouldn't frighten me.

[Lago]

2 year deal for Ox today im told. I'm hoping that's wrong. I'm not a huge fan.
That sounds good to me, he was a solid keeper last season.

[Greenworld]

I would like holt would be a real good addition and scores a fair amount also.... cant see him and allen in same team....still think we need a destroyer in midfield .

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[Fergus52]

I'd rather a keeper who commanded his area and was more vocal with his defence. He's not a bad keeper though.

I always thought that was one of his stronger points

[Titch]

2 year deal for Ox today im told. I'm hoping that's wrong. I'm not a huge fan.

Confirmed
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/5529

[Radium]

2 year deal for Ox today im told. I'm hoping that's wrong. I'm not a huge fan.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/534391804058013696/b87gy5lO_bigger.jpegHibernian FC ‏@HibsOfficial (https://twitter.com/HibsOfficial) 2m2 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/HibsOfficial/status/615484240805920768)
BREAKING: @markoxley1 (https://twitter.com/markoxley1) Agrees Permanent Move To #Hibs (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hibs?src=hash) Keeper agrees two year deal http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/5529 (http://t.co/cA6vseMvEi)

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

Confirmed
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/5529

???????????????????????

where???

[H18S NX]

I would like him to come out for crosses more,he looks a bit unsure,still if he signs, he signs.

[Titch]

???????????????????????

where???

In the link

[TRC]

We need to sign someone who will challenge him though, push him the entire season.

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

In the link

yeah when i looked at it there was no link. but THANKS!! :thumbsup:

[Brightside]

Midfielder not far behind......and no I don't know who he is.

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

We need to sign someone who will challenge him though, push him the entire season.

probably a youngster??

[Walter]

Welcome back Mark

a solid consistent back line for the first time in a long time

[Keith_M]

....................
PS I remember a keeper called Dino Zoff conceding 5 at ER, whatever happened to him? :wink:



I'd actually say that Oxley is a marginally better Keeper than Dino Zoff.


Although, TBF, Zoff is 73 now.

:wink:

[Brightside]

probably a youngster??

Hope Solo to sign after the world cup. :greengrin

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

Hope Solo to sign after the world cup. :greengrin

that signing would fill the FF stand alone!

[Thecat23]

Midfielder not far behind......and no I don't know who he is.

Holt!!!!!!!!!!

[iwasthere1972]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/534391804058013696/b87gy5lO_bigger.jpegHibernian FC ‏@HibsOfficial (https://twitter.com/HibsOfficial) 2m2 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/HibsOfficial/status/615484240805920768)
BREAKING: @markoxley1 (https://twitter.com/markoxley1) Agrees Permanent Move To #Hibs (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hibs?src=hash) Keeper agrees two year deal http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/5529 (http://t.co/cA6vseMvEi)

Nothing in life is permanent, especially a two year deal.

Good to have him back. :aok:

[3pm]

Holt!!!!!!!!!!

This a guess guv?!

[Aldo]

Midfielder not far behind......and no I don't know who he is.

That's just not good enough Underscore.
*insert me shaking my head!! ;-)

I hope it's Holt! A GIRFUY to Der Hun and the west coast media!

Ps cheers for that!

[Brightside]

I'd love it to be Holt.

[S4uzee]

Midfielder not far behind......and no I don't know who he is.
Today?

[bill the hibby]

Just because oxley has signed, doesn't mean to say he'll be our first choice goalie, we do need another.

[Hibs History]

Midfielder not far behind......and no I don't know who he is.

Holt?!

Get 2 over the huns in the space off a week!

lol

[Thecat23]

This a guess guv?!

Yeah mate, only from what I was told sat that the Holt deal was still on.

[scoopyboy]

Just because oxley has signed, doesn't mean to say he'll be our first choice goalie, we do need another.

I think it does to be honest.

We will sign another goalie but it will be as a back up.

[Billychaotic182]

My guess is McCabe. No info just a guess

[Brightside]

Just because oxley has signed, doesn't mean to say he'll be our first choice goalie, we do need another.

He 100% will be first choice.

[bill the hibby]

He 100% will be first choice.

Probably right, was just throwing it out there.

[high bee]

Just because oxley has signed, doesn't mean to say he'll be our first choice goalie, we do need another.

I doubt he would turn down other teams without assurance that he will be number 1. Could be wrong though.

[greenlex]

Is the end of the world happening in two years?

[worcesterhibby]

would be happy to have him back

I'm happy

[Pray4Marc]

All this guff about Holt signing. Absolute nonsense. He is not signing for Hibs.

[GordonHFC]

All this guff about Holt signing. Absolute nonsense. He is not signing for Hibs.

Is that coz he is still in Portugal :greengrin

[scoopyboy]

All this guff about Holt signing. Absolute nonsense. He is not signing for Hibs.

Has he spoken to Hibs then?

[erin go bragh]

All this guff about Holt signing. Absolute nonsense. He is not signing for Hibs.

And you know this cause ,,,,,,,

GGTTH

[Alex Trager]

All this guff about Holt signing. Absolute nonsense. He is not signing for Hibs.

And what do you base this on?



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[Thecat23]

All this guff about Holt signing. Absolute nonsense. He is not signing for Hibs.

Joking aside do you know him? On sat I was told Hibs defo still want him and were speaking again this week as the deal was still on? If it's off then I assume we will sign McCabe!

[Thecat23]

Is that coz he is still in Portugal :greengrin

He doesn't need to be here though, his agent can represent him for any discussions 😉

Course we do need him there to actually sign the contract!

[GordonHFC]

He doesn't need to be here though, his agent can represent him for any discussions 

Course we do need him there to actually sign the contract!

The point of that remark TC was that P4M quoted him earlier as being in Portugal last week when he was defo in Musselburgh.

[Thecat23]

The point of that remark TC was that P4M quoted him earlier as being in Portugal last week when he was defo in Musselburgh.

😂

Oh yeah!! Its been a long day Gordon.

[scoopyboy]

The point of that remark TC was that P4M quoted him earlier as being in Portugal last week when he was defo in Musselburgh.

P4M seems reluctant to come back and answer despite being logged on to the thread.

Wonder why?

[stoneyburn hibs]

All this guff about Holt signing. Absolute nonsense. He is not signing for Hibs.

I think that you are actually taking a punt on him not signing by the simple fact that the odds are less on him not signing.
No disrespect but I hope you end up with egg on your face.

[Mcpakeisgod]

P4M seems reluctant to come back and answer despite being logged on to the thread.

Wonder why?

Cause the chap is just talking nonsense

[Waxy]

I think that you are actually taking a punt on him not signing by the simple fact that the odds are less on him not signing.
No disrespect but I hope you end up with egg on your face.A yolky one at that.

[erin go bragh]

FB rumours page ( I know ) saying we're getting a season long loan of a keeper from the EPL

GGTTH

[Pray4Marc]

I think that you are actually taking a punt on him not signing by the simple fact that the odds are less on him not signing.
No disrespect but I hope you end up with egg on your face.

Wouldn't really call it a punt if it was a Non Starter. There have never been discussions between Hibs and Jason Holt.

[Pray4Marc]

Joking aside do you know him? On sat I was told Hibs defo still want him and were speaking again this week as the deal was still on? If it's off then I assume we will sign McCabe!


Yes I do, played Mussie Windsor with him when younger. Still keep in touch.

[Pray4Marc]

P4M seems reluctant to come back and answer despite being logged on to the thread.

Wonder why?


Some of us are employed and work for a living.

[Pray4Marc]

FB rumours page ( I know ) saying we're getting a season long loan of a keeper from the EPL

GGTTH


Must be true if its on Facebook #Shrewd

[Hibs History]

Some pretty conflicting information regarding Jason Holt

Some say we've spoken to him and others say we haven't and we have no interest too!

The ITK posters should fight this one out!:greengrin

[FitbaFolkKen]

I'd rather a keeper who commanded his area and was more vocal with his defence. He's not a bad keeper though.

I like him and think he does a decent job, he is reliable and that is what we need.

Quoted the above as he never stops talking and that is one of the things I actually like about him. His distribution is excellent and is a far more important part of the game now that it was a few years ago.

Welcome back Mark :flag:

[GordonHFC]

Some pretty conflicting information regarding Jason Holt

Some say we've spoken to him and others say we haven't and we have no interest too!

The ITK posters should fight this one out!:greengrin

As I said before I do not know if talks have taken place or not and not even sure if I am that bothered if he signs or not but I would rather trust those ITK people who have given valid and correct information in the past than someone who played with someone until he was nine and thinks that Musselburgh is in the Algarve.

[CapitalGreen]

As I said before I do not know if talks have taken place or not and not even sure if I am that bothered if he signs or not but I would rather trust those ITK people who have given valid and correct information in the past than someone who played with someone until he was nine and thinks that Musselburgh is in the Algarve.

Have some respect, he is employed and works for a living.

[Pray4Marc]

As I said before I do not know if talks have taken place or not and not even sure if I am that bothered if he signs or not but I would rather trust those ITK people who have given valid and correct information in the past than someone who played with someone until he was nine and thinks that Musselburgh is in the Algarve.

Some serious backtracking here Gordon. What is your main argument though? Proving me wrong or Holt Signing? ITK crowd have always been accurate right enough. Be good if we kept out the point scoring, problem with this forum is if you are not in the ITK gang or posting every day, you are set upon by people who must have no social life and the press the refresh button every 5 seconds if you say something that they don't agree with.

[Brightside]

Some serious backtracking here Gordon. What is your main argument though? Proving me wrong or Holt Signing? ITK crowd have always been accurate right enough. Be good if we kept out the point scoring, problem with this forum is if you are not in the ITK gang or posting every day, you are set upon by people who must have no social life and the press the refresh button every 5 seconds if you say something that they don't agree with.

Every 4 secs. :aok:

[Pray4Marc]

Every 4 secs. :aok:


Apologies, have to keep up with this new breed.

[PatHead]

Just had a look at the team that was relegated just over a year ago and was amazed at the turnover with only Stevenson and Cummings (and Foster from the bench) still being here if you believe the Harris and Stanton rumours.



01 Williams
18 Maybury
16 Stevenson
10 Craig
05 Nelson
03 McGivern
24 Heffernan (Tudur Jones - 83' )
08 Robertson
33 Haynes (Harris - 8' )
26 Stanton
35 Cummings

Substitutes

07 Harris (Thomson - 68' )
11 Cairney
14 Collins
17 Tudur Jones
21 Murdoch
23 Forster
38 Thomson


Be interesting to compare this to the team which starts our first game this season.

[Pray4Marc]

As I said before I do not know if talks have taken place or not and not even sure if I am that bothered if he signs or not but I would rather trust those ITK people who have given valid and correct information in the past than someone who played with someone until he was nine and thinks that Musselburgh is in the Algarve.


Is Sergey still in the "ITK Gang" remember how that turned out Gordon.

[stoneyburn hibs]

Wouldn't really call it a punt if it was a Non Starter. There have never been discussions between Hibs and Jason Holt.

Do you know if he has had discussions with any other clubs in Scotland ? I realize that if you are privy to this then you may not be able to answer.

[GordonHFC]

Some serious backtracking here Gordon. What is your main argument though? Proving me wrong or Holt Signing? ITK crowd have always been accurate right enough. Be good if we kept out the point scoring, problem with this forum is if you are not in the ITK gang or posting every day, you are set upon by people who must have no social life and the press the refresh button every 5 seconds if you say something that they don't agree with.

I am not interested in proving anyone wrong or interested in whether Holt signs or not but I find it hard to believe someone saying something like 'Hibs have made no contact or made no offer' (which may well be the truth) but in the same sentence you quote that he is currently in Portugal which was not the case. You will also see that 1000 posts in 12 years is not posting every day.

[Pray4Marc]

Just had a look at the team that was relegated just over a year ago and was amazed at the turnover with only Stevenson and Cummings (and Foster from the bench) still being here if you believe the Harris and Stanton rumours.



01 Williams
18 Maybury
16 Stevenson
10 Craig
05 Nelson
03 McGivern
24 Heffernan (Tudur Jones - 83' )
08 Robertson
33 Haynes (Harris - 8' )
26 Stanton
35 Cummings

Substitutes



07 Harris (Thomson - 68' )
11 Cairney
14 Collins
17 Tudur Jones
21 Murdoch
23 Forster
38 Thomson


Be interesting to compare this to the team which starts our first game this season.

Media hyping up this Reece Wabara because he played for Man City. Someone should remind them how Ryan McGivern turned out.

[truehibernian]

Just had a look at the team that was relegated just over a year ago and was amazed at the turnover with only Stevenson and Cummings (and Foster from the bench) still being here if you believe the Harris and Stanton rumours.



01 Williams
18 Maybury
16 Stevenson
10 Craig
05 Nelson
03 McGivern
24 Heffernan (Tudur Jones - 83' )
08 Robertson
33 Haynes (Harris - 8' )
26 Stanton
35 Cummings

Substitutes



07 Harris (Thomson - 68' )
11 Cairney
14 Collins
17 Tudur Jones
21 Murdoch
23 Forster
38 Thomson


Be interesting to compare this to the team which starts our first game this season.

Pat, you've turned a good wee day into a right bad yin with that reminder :boo hoo::greengrin

Tudor Jones must rank as one of the worst signings in the last decade however.........even Joe Keenan was ahead of him :greengrin

[PatHead]

Is Sergey still in the "ITK Gang" remember how that turned out Gordon.

Surely doesn't matter who is in the "in the know gang" as you put it. Do you mind if I ask when you last spoke to him and if you have asked him if we are interested or is it an indirect contact?

[Pray4Marc]

Do you know if he has had discussions with any other clubs in Scotland ? I realize that if you are privy to this then you may not be able to answer.

Turned down contract from Hearts so technically a free agent, barring any compensation due too age but pretty sure that is irrelevant with turning down the contract. There have been offers North and South of the border.

[scoopyboy]

Some of us are employed and work for a living.

True, but you hadn't logged off had you naughty boy?:greengrin

I'm convinced there has been more than one conversation between Hibs and either Jason Holt and / or his agent.

[matty_f]

Turned down contract from Hearts so technically a free agent, barring any compensation due too age but pretty sure that is irrelevant with turning down the contract. There have been offers North and South of the border.

Turning down the contract doesn't rule out compensation. The only way hearts will be due a development feed is if they offered Holt a new contract on equal or better terms than the one that was ending.

[Aldo]

Turning down the contract doesn't rule out compensation. The only way hearts will be due a development feed is if they offered Holt a new contract on equal or better terms than the one that was ending.

Agree but s but to add Matty.. Sure there is a timescale in which they had to put this deal to him as well!!

I am hoping we can get him signed up!

[Greenworld]

Bugger it I will take a punt announced 11am tomorrow welcome JH not ITK gang

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[The_Horde]

Andy Halliday training with the sevconians. They're gonna romp this league at this rate

[J-C]

FB rumours page ( I know ) saying we're getting a season long loan of a keeper from the EPL

GGTTH


Would be surprised an EPL club sent a player on loan to us to act as backup and hardy get a game.

[McIntosh]

Andy Halliday training with the sevconians. They're gonna romp this league at this rate

Read this last year.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Wouldn't really call it a punt if it was a Non Starter. There have never been discussions between Hibs and Jason Holt.

As someone who is never ITK could you please confirm that Jason Holt has told you directly that he is not in talks with Hibs and has no intention of entering into any. If that's not the case has his agent told you that?

[Ryan69]

P4M seems reluctant to come back and answer despite being logged on to the thread.

Wonder why?

You'd make a good stalker....

[Lee Marvin]

Andy Halliday training with the sevconians. They're gonna romp this league at this rate

Who is he?

[bill the hibby]

Something's telling me we will get another goalkeeper who will provide more challenge to oxley this season for the number one spot.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

that signing would fill the FF stand alone!

It would probably be mostly Pinkerton men waiting to arrest her.

[Aldo]

Something's telling me we will get another goalkeeper who will provide more challenge to oxley this season for the number one spot.

Right BTH you cannot leave it like that!!

And can I ask what the 'Something' is. Dog, Cat, person?? Potato??

Sorry could resist that there! ;-)

[Thecat23]

Yes I do, played Mussie Windsor with him when younger. Still keep in touch.

Thanks for getting back. This is a strange one then because the lad who informed me about Fontaine said contact has been made and more than once! Could he be keeping it from you? If not then it's baffling as I asked couple others who would know and they said the same.

Not calling you a liar, if you know him and he's told you that then your only going what you've been told. Either way I hope we do get him.

[AlbertK86]

Something's telling me we will get another goalkeeper who will provide more challenge to oxley this season for the number one spot.

Something or someone who was correct about Fonts ? 😉

[bill the hibby]

I'm afraid it's a feeling as oppose to an 'ITK' moment, I can't see us only having oxley as the only tried and tested goalie and stubbs will know that. In my opinion of course

[bill the hibby]

Right BTH you cannot leave it like that!!

And can I ask what the 'Something' is. Dog, Cat, person?? Potato??

Sorry could resist that there! ;-)

I can confirm it was neither a potato, a dog or even a cat. Unfortunately wasn't a person either. Purely guess work.

[Aldo]

I can confirm it was neither a potato, a dog or even a cat. Unfortunately wasn't a person either. Purely guess work.

Ah ha! Like it! :-)

[Unseen work]

Would like both McCabe and holt to sign. Would fit in with the squad personally and ability wise.

Regarding goalkeepers, I would love to see us produce our own one for a change, andy McNeil was the last one who got any real game time.
It seems as though they get to the under 20s then get punted after a season

[Ronniekirk]

Ah ha! Like it! :-)

A Potatoe could of scrubbed up well but doesnt a peel to me :wink: but BTH has amazing powers of guess work for someone who isn't ITK :rolleyes:

[scoopyboy]

You'd make a good stalker....

Already am.

[Aldo]

A Potatoe could of scrubbed up well but doesnt a peel to me :wink: but BTH has amazing powers of guess work for someone who isn't ITK :rolleyes:

Indeed he does so am hoping we get a couple of signings (at least) before the end of the week....... With Holt being one!!

[Ronniekirk]

Indeed he does so am hoping we get a couple of signings (at least) before the end of the week....... With Holt being one!!
Ah Aldo ,your not buying the Sevco out to trump us ,,just to stop us acquiring the best young talent ahead of them ,yet again ,theory .But you were right in one of your earlier posts ,it's all relative and if they do ,Stubbs will unearth another gem and bring them in under the Radar .

[brog]

[QUOTE=Unseen work;4405304]Would like both McCabe and holt to sign. Would fit in with the squad personally and ability wise.


Not having a pop at you but I'm not sure what McCabe brings to the table that is better than anything Handling, Stanton or Harris can do. It was the same a couple of years back, nearly everyone on here was shouting for us to sign Greg Wylde. He didn't really cut it at either dons or buddies. I think it's often the case of the grass being greener. If we are going for McCabe then I'll support the move 100% but I hope we're bringing in someone who can improve on what we already have.

[Smartie]

A Potatoe could of scrubbed up well but doesnt a peel to me :wink: but BTH has amazing powers of guess work for someone who isn't ITK :rolleyes:

Can I take this opportunity to chip in with a potato based pun before all of the usual roasters come along with theirs?

[Ronniekirk]

Can I take this opportunity to chip in with a potato based pun before all of the usual roasters come along with theirs?
Your scraping the barrel with that one but I have simmered down after coming to the boil .for Mash get Smash

[Aldo]

Ah Aldo ,your not buying the Sevco out to trump us ,,just to stop us acquiring the best young talent ahead of them ,yet again ,theory .But you were right in one of your earlier posts ,it's all relative and if they do ,Stubbs will unearth another gem and bring them in under the Radar .

Indeed I am not Ronnie.

I am hoping that these targets (Holt) will see into his vision and see how Allan, Cummings and Dylan thrived under Stubbs. Can see the quality we've already signed in Fyvie and Fontaine and get on board.

Yeah if they are wanting the dosh then it's Der hun for them but let's hope they can see themselves moving onto bigger things and a move down south!

I can see another Keeper, CH and another MF player (maybe 2) coming in.

[liamh2202]

Would like both McCabe and holt to sign. Would fit in with the squad personally and ability wise.

Regarding goalkeepers, I would love to see us produce our own one for a change, andy McNeil was the last one who got any real game time.
It seems as though they get to the under 20s then get punted after a season

We didn't produce Andy McNeil. He came through Southampton's youth system then signed full time for us , similar to Garry and deek.

[silverhibee]

Already am.

Get a job then eh, some folk have to work don't you know.


















:greengrin

[bill the hibby]

Fontaine wasn't guess work I would say I was, forgive me for using the term, in the know. But my guess that hibs will bring in another keeper who will be more of a challenge to oxley than last season was purely that. And to add to the use of puns, I apologise that I'm not able to chip in.

[Aldo]

Fontaine wasn't guess work I would say I was, forgive me for using the term, in the know. But my guess that hibs will bring in another keeper who will be more of a challenge to oxley than last season was purely that. And to add to the use of puns, I apologise that I'm not able to chip in.

So it was a Potato!! ;-)

[bill the hibby]

So it was a Potato!! ;-)

Really starting to get under my skin, ha. Here all night.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Really starting to get under my skin, ha. Here all night.

Chip on your shoulder?

[Aldo]

Really starting to get under my skin, ha. Here all night.

Better watch I don't get you too boiled up or I'll end up mashed??

[bill the hibby]

Chip on your shoulder?

these potato puns are very appeeling...however back to signings guys, we don't want to upset anyone now.

[liamh2202]

So it was a Potato!! ;-)

What a half baked repky

[Eyrie]

Could everyone knock off the half baked puns please?

With Watson and Holt apparently lined up, all we need now is a back up keeper and a defensive midfielder.

[3pm]

Looks like Ramos is going to Man Utd. Interesting move. Thought it might have been Allan to Real and Ramos and money to us.

[Aldo]

Could everyone knock off the half baked puns please? With Watson and Holt apparently lined up, all we need now is a back up keeper and a defensive midfielder.

Yip let's hope we get some news that'll really scunner our rivals.

Our squad is looking very good but I would say 3 more as you've mentioned will see us in very good stead!

[tamig]

We didn't produce Andy McNeil. He came through Southampton's youth system then signed full time for us , similar to Garry and deek.

How does Andy McNeil's youth career bear any similarity to Garry or Deek's?

[Smartie]

I think we could do with signing a few more squad players.

If we don't then we might find ourselves in trouble if any of our first XI were to be croquette.

[HappyHanlon]

Looking for back up keeper, back up left (wing) back and midfielder then I think we're done.

[bill the hibby]

I agree that 3 more signings should see us alright, I would like it if we signed another LB to provide challenge to LS, I think his position seems safe for another season. As dempster said it should be, first team-back up-youth. Anyone know if the young LB (his name bypasses me) is in a position to challenge him to get into the first team?

[J-C]

Crane

[The_Horde]

Looking for back up keeper, back up left (wing) back and midfielder then I think we're done.

Think we'll see another centre back too.

[3pm]

I agree that 3 more signings should see us alright, I would like it if we signed another LB to provide challenge to LS, I think his position seems safe for another season. As dempster said it should be, first team-back up-youth. Anyone know if the young LB (his name bypasses me) is in a position to challenge him to get into the first team?

Callum Crane? He'll be there or thereabouts IMO. Maybe next year before there is a genuine challenge for Lewis.

[Aldo]

Think we'll see another centre back too.

CH, MF and keeper IMHO.

[bill the hibby]

Callum Crane? He'll be there or thereabouts IMO. Maybe next year before there is a genuine challenge for Lewis.

Yea that's what I was thinking going by what previous posters have said. Would it be worth waiting another season though or would it be good to provide a challenge for him this season, I think the latter as long as other key positions can be filled.

[HappyHanlon]

Think we'll see another centre back too.

Probably the guy who was at Raith, Watson....

[Smartie]

I'd like to see another LB come in and stake a real claim.

I'd also like to see Lewis Stevenson get another run in the centre of midfield.

Whilst his end product isn't always great out wide he is a tenacious tackler, decent enough at playing keep ball and has bundles of energy.

I reckon the ideal defensive midfielder to allow Allan and Fyvie to go forward could be right under our noses.

[3pm]

Yea that's what I was thinking going by what previous posters have said. Would it be worth waiting another season though or would it be good to provide a challenge for him this season, I think the latter as long as other key positions can be filled.

I've only seen the guy once. A couple of the others will know a bit better!

[GreenCastle]

Am I the only one who thinks Lewis would be suited for a sitting midfield role if needed ?

Don't mind him at left back but would like to see some competition for that position.

I think we will see Watson...another midfielder and maybe a random loan from Everton.

Can someone tell me the status of Boyle and Forster? When are they due back? I also read Farid has op on knee injury which he picked up towards end of last season (explains why he hardly played after the yams game).

[silverhibee]

How does Andy McNeil's youth career bear any similarity to Garry or Deek's?

Both came through the youth set up at Southampton. :greengrin

[liamh2202]

How does Andy McNeil's youth career bear any similarity to Garry or Deek's?

They all came to his as full time players from other youth teams. Garry was salveson, deek was Hutchie vale (so are products of our scouting system rather than home grown) . as opposed to someone like fletch who came through the hibs youth system.

[tamig]

They all came to his as full time players from other youth teams. Garry was salveson, deek was Hutchie vale (so are products of our scouting system rather than home grown) . as opposed to someone like fletch who came through the hibs youth system.

Ah right. Thought you were suggesting some Southampton connection like silver mentioned :-)

[liamh2202]

Ah right. Thought you were suggesting some Southampton connection like silver mentioned :-)

No mate sorry. It just got me thinking if we have ever brought through our own keeper in my time. And I can't think of any (memory stretches to around 1990) lol.

I think ally brown probably got the closest

[Billy Whizz]

No mate sorry. It just got me thinking if we have ever brought through our own keeper in my time. And I can't think of any (memory stretches to around 1990) lol.

I think ally brown probably got the closest

Good point

[oneone73]

No mate sorry. It just got me thinking if we have ever brought through our own keeper in my time. And I can't think of any (memory stretches to around 1990) lol.

I think ally brown probably got the closest

When did Chris Reid play?

[HibbyAndy]

When did Chris Reid play?

About 87-88 :dunno:

[Ozyhibby]

When did Chris Reid play?

Late 80's early 90's ? Did better after he left didn't he?

[blackpoolhibs]

No mate sorry. It just got me thinking if we have ever brought through our own keeper in my time. And I can't think of any (memory stretches to around 1990) lol.

I think ally brown probably got the closest


I can't remember the last keeper we brought through the ranks who played regularly and was seen as someone who'd made the position his own?

Jim McCarthur? :confused: