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Keith_M
02-06-2015, 06:29 PM
So who are we signing tomorrow ?


Messi.

Aldo
02-06-2015, 06:30 PM
So who are we signing tomorrow ?

I'll guess a keeper, a defender or a midfielder!! ;-)

AlbertK86
02-06-2015, 06:52 PM
Hibs news (not official) claiming Scott Allan has signed a further years extension

Been a lot of guess work from the account in the past

AlbertK86
02-06-2015, 06:52 PM
Hibs news (not official) claiming Scott Allan has signed a further years extension Been a lot of guess work from the account in the past

Meant to add its a Twitter account

Pray4Marc
02-06-2015, 07:02 PM
Liam Fontaine signing a new contract will be pivotal to where we finish this season.

hibees 7062
02-06-2015, 07:13 PM
Liam Fontaine signing a new contract will be pivotal to where we finish this season.

Deffo :agree:

Andy74
02-06-2015, 07:13 PM
Liam Fontaine signing a new contract will be pivotal to where we finish this season.

Yep. Allan gets the attention but Fontaine is top drawer.

Golden Bear
02-06-2015, 07:15 PM
Liam Fontaine signing a new contract will be pivotal to where we finish this season.

Yip, he's the key man without a doubt.

Ronniekirk
02-06-2015, 07:42 PM
Liam Fontaine signing a new contract will be pivotal to where we finish this season.
Agree Pivitol is perfect word ,unless we have a like for like replacement waiting in the wings .

hibees 7062
02-06-2015, 07:47 PM
Agree Pivitol is perfect word ,unless we have a like for like replacement waiting in the wings .


Or sign him aswell Ronnie :greengrin

Aldo
02-06-2015, 07:48 PM
Or sign him aswell Ronnie :greengrin

Mmmmmm! There's the carrot again?? ;-)

pontius pilate
02-06-2015, 07:56 PM
What about templeton just been released from the current buns

Hermit Crab
02-06-2015, 07:59 PM
What about templeton just been released from the current buns


"Rumours" he's an alcoholic along with zaliukas. That's what I've heard anyway. Absolutely no idea if that's true, nor am I claiming it to be true.

bingo70
02-06-2015, 08:02 PM
What about templeton just been released from the current buns

Think he'd be a good signing and probably exactly the sort of player Stubbs will be able to get the most out of.

That said I'm sure I'll be in the minority as I don't dispute he's a horrible little hearts/rangers ****, I do think he's potentially a good player though.

Hibeesmad
02-06-2015, 08:05 PM
What about templeton just been released from the current buns

He will end up back at Hearts

Hibeesmad
02-06-2015, 08:06 PM
Got told tonight that we might sign Lee Hollis as a back up option?

bigwheel
02-06-2015, 08:10 PM
Got told tonight that we might sign Lee Hollis as a back up option?

That post has quite a smell to it .....

Green Fish
02-06-2015, 08:10 PM
I'll guess a keeper, a defender or a midfielder!! ;-)

eckersly deal v likely I've heard

Jonnyboy
02-06-2015, 08:11 PM
Got told tonight that we might sign Lee Hollis as a back up option?

According to Wiki, 26 appearances in six years at Airdrie Utd, 18 or so for Motherwell and none for Hearts

Aldo
02-06-2015, 08:13 PM
eckersly deal v likely I've heard Hope no! After his antics for the yams.

Green Fish
02-06-2015, 08:15 PM
Hope no!
After his antics v the yams.

Feel much the same tbh, he's a hardy lad, certainly would stiffen up the defence

Aldo
02-06-2015, 08:17 PM
Feel much the same tbh, he's a hardy lad, certainly would stiffen up the defence

He probably would. We will have to wait and see whose unveiled tomorrow (if anyone)

hibees 7062
02-06-2015, 09:30 PM
ProLegal Group‏@ProLegalSM6 hrs6 hours ago (http://www.hibs.net/ProLegalSM/status/605751071122825216)All the Best to Lewis Stevenson on re signing for @HibsOfficial (http://www.hibs.net/HibsOfficial) https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v1/72x72/1f44d.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v1/72x72/26bd.png

Ronniekirk
02-06-2015, 09:44 PM
Or sign him aswell Ronnie :greengrin
The thought never occurred to me we can't have that much money in the Transfer kitty

Ronniekirk
02-06-2015, 09:47 PM
Mmmmmm! There's the carrot again?? ;-)
Well we know Butcher and the Stick didn't work :wink:

bingo70
02-06-2015, 09:49 PM
ProLegal Group‏@ProLegalSM6 hrs6 hours ago (http://www.hibs.net/ProLegalSM/status/605751071122825216)All the Best to Lewis Stevenson on re signing for @HibsOfficial (http://www.hibs.net/HibsOfficial) https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v1/72x72/1f44d.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v1/72x72/26bd.png

I've not always been his biggest fan but we'll done to him, he's had a good season and deserves the new deal. I hope we bring in someone else to challenge him for his place as a part from anything I think he needed a rest towards the end of the season.

I also hope it's a 2 year deal he gets, its a lot of pressure to continually get 1 year deals, maybe getting a longer deal will allow him to relax a bit more.

S4uzee
02-06-2015, 09:54 PM
The thing is with the last 2 days, I'll be disappointed if there's not more to come tomorrow 😊

HappyHibeeAG
02-06-2015, 10:43 PM
Good Evening Guys,

How are we all tonight? I thought it was appropriate to pop in and say hello to our friends at .Net due to some rather concerning comments being sent to the Fans News admin team.

I'm not here looking for a fight but certainly feel the need to clarify a couple of points to the, shall we just call them "the keyboard warriors", who seem intent on slating myself and my group on anonymous forums.

The first thing, and TBH the most concerning is the allegation made on this thread by a member called underscore. where he states and I quote "Did he not take a bundle of cash of his "followers" in order to sponsor players? Who knows - each to their own - I was blocked a long time ago." Simple answer...Yes. The money was taken in last season and paid for the group to sponsor Alan Stubbs and Farid El Alagui. We are continuing this again this season and your welcome to pop over to the group and donate to the club. Why you were banned? Well tbh I don't know your name so don't know why you were banned but i'm guessing you will know.

I do however resent the suggestion that I TOOK the money with nothing in return.

Secondly as seems to be the generic response when a .Net member posts that Fans News is saying such and such...... Apparently I lift everything from the Private forums. Well as I am sure any of the admin team from here will be able to confirm I am not a member of the private forums nor I understand are ANY of the Fans News administrators.

I don't claim to know everything and have got it wrong on a couple of occasions, hell I said Leigh Griffiths had signed remember?? Of course you do cause i'm reminded every rumour I post LOL

I'm just a Hibee like you all, I'll share the info I have and if you want to read it and share it then by all means... If you don't then I won't be offended. But if your just going to consistently degrade my name then at least show your face :wink:

Best regards and here's to the coming season! GGTTH.....

Hibeesmad
02-06-2015, 10:45 PM
Good Evening Guys,

How are we all tonight? I thought it was appropriate to pop in and say hello to our friends at .Net due to some rather concerning comments being sent to the Fans News admin team.

I'm not here looking for a fight but certainly feel the need to clarify a couple of points to the, shall we just call them "the keyboard warriors", who seem intent on slating myself and my group on anonymous forums.

The first thing, and TBH the most concerning is the allegation made on this thread by a member called underscore. where he states and I quote "Did he not take a bundle of cash of his "followers" in order to sponsor players? Who knows - each to their own - I was blocked a long time ago." Simple answer...Yes. The money was taken in last season and paid for the group to sponsor Alan Stubbs and Farid El Alagui. We are continuing this again this season and your welcome to pop over to the group and donate to the club. Why you were banned? Well tbh I don't know your name so don't know why you were banned but i'm guessing you will know.

I do however resent the suggestion that I TOOK the money with nothing in return.

Secondly as seems to be the generic response when a .Net member posts that Fans News is saying such and such...... Apparently I lift everything from the Private forums. Well as I am sure any of the admin team from here will be able to confirm I am not a member of the private forums nor I understand are ANY of the Fans News administrators.

I don't claim to know everything and have got it wrong on a couple of occasions, hell I said Leigh Griffiths had signed remember?? Of course you do cause i'm reminded every rumour I post LOL

I'm just a Hibee like you all, I'll share the info I have and if you want to read it and share it then by all means... If you don't then I won't be offended. But if your just going to consistently degrade my name then at least show your face :wink:

Best regards and here's to the coming season! GGTTH.....

When are we signing Alex Rodman, I thought you said he was a done deal?

cabbageandribs1875
02-06-2015, 10:50 PM
Good Evening Guys,

How are we all tonight? I thought it was appropriate to pop in and say hello to our friends at .Net due to some rather concerning comments being sent to the Fans News admin team.

I'm not here looking for a fight but certainly feel the need to clarify a couple of points to the, shall we just call them "the keyboard warriors", who seem intent on slating myself and my group on anonymous forums.



Best regards and here's to the coming season! GGTTH.....


aye there's a few on here :greengrin always two sides to a story, but to be fair it's only a few that call yi nawty names

HappyHibeeAG
02-06-2015, 10:54 PM
aye there's a few on here :greengrin always two sides to a story, but to be fair it's only a few that call yi nawty names


People can say what they like...name calling is one thing...accusations of fraud and theft is another. :thumbsup:

HappyHibeeAG
02-06-2015, 10:55 PM
When are we signing Alex Rodman, I thought you said he was a done deal?

Quite possible...If i'm not mistaken went to Gateshead after trialling with us.

Hibeesmad
02-06-2015, 10:57 PM
Quite possible...If i'm not mistaken went to Gateshead after trialling with us.

He didn't have a trial with us

My_Wife_Camille
02-06-2015, 10:58 PM
Good Evening Guys,

How are we all tonight? I thought it was appropriate to pop in and say hello to our friends at .Net due to some rather concerning comments being sent to the Fans News admin team.

I'm not here looking for a fight but certainly feel the need to clarify a couple of points to the, shall we just call them "the keyboard warriors", who seem intent on slating myself and my group on anonymous forums.

The first thing, and TBH the most concerning is the allegation made on this thread by a member called underscore. where he states and I quote "Did he not take a bundle of cash of his "followers" in order to sponsor players? Who knows - each to their own - I was blocked a long time ago." Simple answer...Yes. The money was taken in last season and paid for the group to sponsor Alan Stubbs and Farid El Alagui. We are continuing this again this season and your welcome to pop over to the group and donate to the club. Why you were banned? Well tbh I don't know your name so don't know why you were banned but i'm guessing you will know.

I do however resent the suggestion that I TOOK the money with nothing in return.

Secondly as seems to be the generic response when a .Net member posts that Fans News is saying such and such...... Apparently I lift everything from the Private forums. Well as I am sure any of the admin team from here will be able to confirm I am not a member of the private forums nor I understand are ANY of the Fans News administrators.

I don't claim to know everything and have got it wrong on a couple of occasions, hell I said Leigh Griffiths had signed remember?? Of course you do cause i'm reminded every rumour I post LOL

I'm just a Hibee like you all, I'll share the info I have and if you want to read it and share it then by all means... If you don't then I won't be offended. But if your just going to consistently degrade my name then at least show your face :wink:

Best regards and here's to the coming season! GGTTH.....fair play for posting. Some people find it funny thought that so many of you 'Breaking Rumours' appear on your page usually within minutes of them being posted on here. Must just be a coincidence though.

Also, if you don't mind me asking, what happened to the framed shirts that your group was presented with at the sponsors night?

HappyHibeeAG
02-06-2015, 11:04 PM
fair play for posting. Some people find it funny thought that so many of you 'Breaking Rumours' appear on your page usually within minutes of them being posted on here. Must just be a coincidence though.

Also, if you don't mind me asking, what happened to the framed shirts that your group was presented with at the sponsors night?

I can only take your word for that bud. I don't have access to the private boards to check. As for the shirt it is to be auctioned off shortly to raise funds for further sponsorship this year. this was agreed by the members who donated at the start of last season. We also have Farid's boots which will also be auctioned off.

southern hibby
02-06-2015, 11:47 PM
Great bit of business by Hibs up to now and long may it continue.
However I do have one concern that seems to be concerning me. All our signings are 2 years and if rumours are to be believed Allen will sign a 1 year extension ( which makes his contract expire at the same time as everyone else's). Also if Fontaine and Stevenson sign 2 year deals ( which again seems to be the rumour) then are we going to end up moaning our heads of in two years time when our team is all out of contract? Or should we try and make contracts different lengths of time?
Please don't think this is a pop at Hibs because it ain't.

GGTTH

TRC
03-06-2015, 12:43 AM
I have no insider info. My take o nit is that we will see a signing or an extension every day this week with Friday being the clincher of Allan and Fontaine deals being announced

Hibeesmad
03-06-2015, 12:47 AM
Great bit of business by Hibs up to now and long may it continue.
However I do have one concern that seems to be concerning me. All our signings are 2 years and if rumours are to be believed Allen will sign a 1 year extension ( which makes his contract expire at the same time as everyone else's). Also if Fontaine and Stevenson sign 2 year deals ( which again seems to be the rumour) then are we going to end up moaning our heads of in two years time when our team is all out of contract? Or should we try and make contracts different lengths of time?
Please don't think this is a pop at Hibs because it ain't.

GGTTH

I think that 2 year deals are the best option for the position we are in. If we get promoted we are guaranteed to have the players for another season and it gives us time to get new contracts sorted. If we don't get promoted then we are in a position that players can move on for a fee and we can gain from that. However, these are very good players that we are signing for the position we are in and I believe that if we keep Fontaine and Allan then we will definitely be in a position to win this league

Hibeesmad
03-06-2015, 12:48 AM
I have no insider info. My take o nit is that we will see a signing or an extension every day this week with Friday being the clincher of Allan and Fontaine deals being announced

Lewis Stevenson today

CRAZYHIBBY
03-06-2015, 06:28 AM
I woke up this morning expecting another signing but yet again the silence from hibs is deafening. ....The fact that we haven't made a signing in the last 24hrs shows there is no ambition at this club whatsoever. ....petrie out

woodythehibee
03-06-2015, 06:28 AM
I can only take your word for that bud. I don't have access to the private boards to check. As for the shirt it is to be auctioned off shortly to raise funds for further sponsorship this year. this was agreed by the members who donated at the start of last season. We also have Farid's boots which will also be auctioned off.
My question relates to the sponsor evening. You probably got lots of donations from hundreds of your "members" to sponsor the players. Who decided who went to the sponsors evening? If it was a raffle, but funny that the admin team got tickets. Shouldn't everyone have the same opportunity?

matty_f
03-06-2015, 06:36 AM
My question relates to the sponsor evening. You probably got lots of donations from hundreds of your "members" to sponsor the players. Who decided who went to the sponsors evening? If it was a raffle, but funny that the admin team got tickets. Shouldn't everyone have the same opportunity?
Did you contribute? If not, why is it even an issue? It's certainly not one that needs discussed on hibs.net, IMHO.

It would be great if we can keep this thread on topic from this point, please folks.

KeithTheHibby
03-06-2015, 06:40 AM
No rumours of Scott Robertson signing back on. Perhaps Stubbs thinks we can do better?

I wouldn't have thought SR would have been too difficult to deal with wages wise, perhaps length of contract an issue?

KeithTheHibby
03-06-2015, 06:41 AM
I woke up this morning expecting another signing but yet again the silence from hibs is deafening. ....The fact that we haven't made a signing in the last 24hrs shows there is no ambition at this club whatsoever. ....petrie out


I'm not happy about the the amount of ex yams we are being linked with / signing.

Stubbs out Butcher back in.:wink:

PeterboroHibee
03-06-2015, 06:47 AM
No rumours of Scott Robertson signing back on. Perhaps Stubbs thinks we can do better?

I wouldn't have thought SR would have been too difficult to deal with wages wise, perhaps length of contract an issue?

Maybe we can do better and have someone lined up, but I think we should keep Robertson. We need squad depth.

Also, apart from the odd mistake, Robertson has been quite important for us this season, chipping in with goals and playing a role that no one else has really been able to fill.

Brightside
03-06-2015, 06:49 AM
Good Evening Guys,

How are we all tonight? I thought it was appropriate to pop in and say hello to our friends at .Net due to some rather concerning comments being sent to the Fans News admin team.

I'm not here looking for a fight but certainly feel the need to clarify a couple of points to the, shall we just call them "the keyboard warriors", who seem intent on slating myself and my group on anonymous forums.

The first thing, and TBH the most concerning is the allegation made on this thread by a member called underscore. where he states and I quote "Did he not take a bundle of cash of his "followers" in order to sponsor players? Who knows - each to their own - I was blocked a long time ago." Simple answer...Yes. The money was taken in last season and paid for the group to sponsor Alan Stubbs and Farid El Alagui. We are continuing this again this season and your welcome to pop over to the group and donate to the club. Why you were banned? Well tbh I don't know your name so don't know why you were banned but i'm guessing you will know.

I do however resent the suggestion that I TOOK the money with nothing in return.

Secondly as seems to be the generic response when a .Net member posts that Fans News is saying such and such...... Apparently I lift everything from the Private forums. Well as I am sure any of the admin team from here will be able to confirm I am not a member of the private forums nor I understand are ANY of the Fans News administrators.

I don't claim to know everything and have got it wrong on a couple of occasions, hell I said Leigh Griffiths had signed remember?? Of course you do cause i'm reminded every rumour I post LOL

I'm just a Hibee like you all, I'll share the info I have and if you want to read it and share it then by all means... If you don't then I won't be offended. But if your just going to consistently degrade my name then at least show your face :wink:

Best regards and here's to the coming season! GGTTH.....

I never stated you took the money with nothing in return. It clearly says it was to sponsor the players. Hope you had a good night at the Sponsors Evening, I certainly did.

Brightside
03-06-2015, 06:50 AM
Maybe we can do better and have someone lined up, but I think we should keep Robertson. We need squad depth.

Also, apart from the odd mistake, Robertson has been quite important for us this season, chipping in with goals and playing a role that no one else has really been able to fill.

A holding mid is one the biggest positions for me. I like Scott but there is room for improvement in that area.

woodythehibee
03-06-2015, 06:52 AM
Did you contribute? If not, why is it even an issue? It's certainly not one that needs discussed on hibs.net, IMHO.

It would be great if we can keep this thread on topic from this point, please folks.
It's a very valid point and I'm looking forward to receiving a response. If I post it on the FB page I'll probably get blocked like many others before me.

Libby Hibby
03-06-2015, 07:04 AM
It's a very valid point and I'm looking forward to receiving a response. If I post it on the FB page I'll probably get blocked like many others before me.

It may very well be a valid point worth discussing but has no place in the current thread.

Start a new thread or PM the guy to take it away from this one is perhaps a better option.

Onceinawhile
03-06-2015, 07:07 AM
It's a very valid point and I'm looking forward to receiving a response. If I post it on the FB page I'll probably get blocked like many others before me.

Post 5 or 6 on page 8 has someone who went to the sponsors evening through the page, so it's not exactly a carve up.

Think we still need a back up right back, another centre back and possibly two more midfielders, we certainly need someone in there who can score 8+ next year as the goal return from our midfielders was pitiful last year.

And goalies! Lots of them. Goalscoring ones again please.

Aldo
03-06-2015, 07:08 AM
Right back on topic.... Why have we not announced someone else yet. It's after 8.

Anyway.... Wonder who today keeping up with the recent trend?? Keeper??? CH??? Coming Hibs finger oot!

bingo70
03-06-2015, 07:13 AM
It's a very valid point and I'm looking forward to receiving a response. If I post it on the FB page I'll probably get blocked like many others before me.

It's not a valid point in relation to hibs transfers.

Fwiw I've been critical of that Facebook page before but imo you're a bit out of order implying there's wrong doing going on here. Again, imo If they give up their free time to organise abd administer a Facebook page with a lot of members it's not unreasonable for them to get a small benefit like attending a sponsors evening. Its hardly con man territory.

southern hibby
03-06-2015, 07:16 AM
I think that 2 year deals are the best option for the position we are in. If we get promoted we are guaranteed to have the players for another season and it gives us time to get new contracts sorted. If we don't get promoted then we are in a position that players can move on for a fee and we can gain from that. However, these are very good players that we are signing for the position we are in and I believe that if we keep Fontaine and Allan then we will definitely be in a position to win this league

Agree to an extent. Problem I have is 2 years for everyone seems strange. If AS stays for another 1 1-2 to 2 years too, we loose our manager ( who in theory, not saying he would) could go and take our best players for nothing. It's alright saying we can sell them but remember Fontaine's contract ran out as did Stevenson's so if AS left and these players thought they could maybe get a championship club with him for more money we would be looking yet again to build a whole new team from scratch.

GGTTH

Brightside
03-06-2015, 07:25 AM
Ecks has confirmed on twitter that he is not going to Hibs.

bingo70
03-06-2015, 07:31 AM
Ecks has confirmed on twitter that he is not going to Hibs.

Who is ecks?

Billy Whizz
03-06-2015, 07:32 AM
Who is ecks?

Eckersley I presume

Brightside
03-06-2015, 07:32 AM
Eckersley I presume

indeed

lyonhibs
03-06-2015, 07:34 AM
09:34am where I am :I'm waiti

Disappointing stuff so far................................

Aldo
03-06-2015, 07:39 AM
Ecks has confirmed on twitter that he is not going to Hibs.

Thank **** for that.

Heedersnvolleys
03-06-2015, 07:41 AM
Ecks has confirmed on twitter that he is not going to Hibs.
Thank ****

Geo_1875
03-06-2015, 07:46 AM
Who is ecks?

I think that's what the yams called Eckersley.

Bostonhibby
03-06-2015, 07:48 AM
Thank ****
Yeehah, all we need now is McHattie, Ozturk,Sow and Zeefiuk to issue Similar statements and it will be a great start to the day.

J-C
03-06-2015, 08:04 AM
Agree to an extent. Problem I have is 2 years for everyone seems strange. If AS stays for another 1 1-2 to 2 years too, we loose our manager ( who in theory, not saying he would) could go and take our best players for nothing. It's alright saying we can sell them but remember Fontaine's contract ran out as did Stevenson's so if AS left and these players thought they could maybe get a championship club with him for more money we would be looking yet again to build a whole new team from scratch.

GGTTH


The days of long 5 year contracts is a thing of the past, only youngsters with real talent get 5 year ones, tying them up making sure we gat decent money for them.

scoopyboy
03-06-2015, 08:10 AM
Right back on topic.... Why have we not announced someone else yet. It's after 8.

Anyway.... Wonder who today keeping up with the recent trend?? Keeper??? CH??? Coming Hibs finger oot!

Lewis is my bet, probably today.

He signed the actual forms yesterday and had photos taken with Keatings and Carmichael.

He was chuffed in that he reckoned he was the biggest of the three!!!!!

All joking aside if Scott Robertson joins Liam Craig in leaving we could do with a bit of height in midfield.

Aldo
03-06-2015, 08:15 AM
Lewis is my bet, probably today. He signed the actual forms yesterday and had photos taken with Keatings and Carmichael. He was chuffed in that he reckoned he was the biggest of the three!!!!! All joking aside if Scott Robertson joins Liam Craig in leaving we could do with a bit of height in midfield.

Superb and well chuffed for him Scoops.

Agree re MF. I know this was posted a few weeks ago but I would love someone in the Bamba mould to slot into that role in the middle.

J-C
03-06-2015, 08:17 AM
Lewis is my bet, probably today.

He signed the actual forms yesterday and had photos taken with Keatings and Carmichael.

He was chuffed in that he reckoned he was the biggest of the three!!!!!

All joking aside if Scott Robertson joins Liam Craig in leaving we could do with a bit of height in midfield.


Any news on Robertson Scoops, I like his energy but feel he's a bit of a headless chicken at times, still feel we need a no nonsense DM to sit infront of the back 4.

HappyHanlon
03-06-2015, 08:21 AM
Superb and well chuffed for him Scoops.

Agree re MF. I know this was posted a few weeks ago but I would love someone in the Bamba mould to slot into that role in the middle.

Bamba was only leasing Matty Jack's role in the team.

Need a big man in the middle to take control of things, definitely.

GreenCastle
03-06-2015, 08:23 AM
I hope Robertson does stay - hard working player who did score 6 goals.

The issue will be if he agrees to lower terms being offered.

Would love a Claros type defensive midfielder but the issue with players like that are they don't score enough goals.

We need more goals from midfield if we are to win the league and do we need to play a defensive midfielder against many teams who only play 1 up front ?

Aldo
03-06-2015, 08:25 AM
I hope Robertson does stay - hard working player who did score 6 goals. The issue will be if he agrees to lower terms being offered. Would love a Claros type defensive midfielder but the issue with players like that are they don't score enough goals. We need more goals from midfield if we are to win the league and do we need to play a defensive midfielder against many teams who only play 1 up front ?

I hope he does as well. Seemed to be enjoying his game much more.

scoopyboy
03-06-2015, 08:27 AM
Any news on Robertson Scoops, I like his energy but feel he's a bit of a headless chicken at times, still feel we need a no nonsense DM to sit infront of the back 4.

Last I heard he had been made an offer on reduced terms.

He took a significant cut when he came to Hibs and I don't think he wants to take another hit.

Things may have changed but my educated guess is that he will leave and get a club closer to Dundee.

scoopyboy
03-06-2015, 08:32 AM
I always check the gossip page on the BBC website, some rag today reckons we are interested in signing James Keatings!!!!!!

bingo70
03-06-2015, 08:39 AM
I always check the gossip page on the BBC website, some rag today reckons we are interested in signing James Keatings!!!!!!

Got to love the sun!

matty_f
03-06-2015, 08:40 AM
I always check the gossip page on the BBC website, some rag today reckons we are interested in signing James Keatings!!!!!!

Fingers crossed! :greengrin

Hamish
03-06-2015, 08:41 AM
Last I heard he had been made an offer on reduced terms.

He took a significant cut when he came to Hibs and I don't think he wants to take another hit.

Things may have changed but my educated guess is that he will leave and get a club closer to Dundee.

:agree: St Johnstone are rumoured to be in for him.

southern hibby
03-06-2015, 08:45 AM
The days of long 5 year contracts is a thing of the past, only youngsters with real talent get 5 year ones, tying them up making sure we gat decent money for them.

Yes they are. I just feel in 2 years time this sight will ( hopefully I'm wrong ) going into melt down with comments like why we're all the players given a 2 year contract etc etc etc. I have no issue with 2 year deals but I do think this may come back to bite us in the bum.

GGTTH

Hibs History
03-06-2015, 08:52 AM
I always check the gossip page on the BBC website, some rag today reckons we are interested in signing James Keatings!!!!!!

I'm going to stick my neck on the line.

I can see us getting him!

:greengrin

Geo_1875
03-06-2015, 08:52 AM
Yes they are. I just feel in 2 years time this sight will ( hopefully I'm wrong ) going into melt down with comments like why we're all the players given a 2 year contract etc etc etc. I have no issue with 2 year deals but I do think this may come back to bite us in the bum.

GGTTH

And if we had duds sitting on long contracts the site would go into meltdown.

Steve20
03-06-2015, 09:02 AM
Ecks has confirmed on twitter that he is not going to Hibs.

When? The last thing he put on twitter was 4 days ago saying he wasn't surprised to see Keatings leave Hearts.

Roxyhibee
03-06-2015, 09:04 AM
Would really like to see us signing a quality left back. Lewis just isn't good enough I'm afraid. Like the guy for a lot of reasons and if he ever gets a testimonial, I'll be first to buy a ticket. Likewise, if he gets a new contract, he'll get my support regardless. But we need to target the standard of David Murphy who had so many aspects to his game that Lewis just doesn't have. Constantly puzzled by the Lewis love-in on these threads - don't ask me to list his failings in a Hibs Jersey, but if you watch him regularly, you should know what they are. Think he needs a fresh start somewhere else.

Brightside
03-06-2015, 09:16 AM
When? The last thing he put on twitter was 4 days ago saying he wasn't surprised to see Keatings leave Hearts.

Look at his replies rather than his main tweets. A tweet about flights etc and then he's asked by a couple of people if hes signing for Hibs. Actually strike that...its a pic copy of his instagram update posted on twitter.

spike220
03-06-2015, 09:18 AM
Would really like to see us signing a quality left back. Lewis just isn't good enough I'm afraid. Like the guy for a lot of reasons and if he ever gets a testimonial, I'll be first to buy a ticket. Likewise, if he gets a new contract, he'll get my support regardless. But we need to target the standard of David Murphy who had so many aspects to his game that Lewis just doesn't have. Constantly puzzled by the Lewis love-in on these threads - don't ask me to list his failings in a Hibs Jersey, but if you watch him regularly, you should know what they are. Think he needs a fresh start somewhere else.

One of my favorite moments of the last 5 years!
http://i2.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article5160652.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/JS56814237.jpg

Ken
03-06-2015, 09:20 AM
Look at his replies rather than his main tweets. A tweet about flights etc and then he's asked by a couple of people if hes signing for Hibs.

I have no idea how to do that. I thought all his tweets/replies/RTs/Fav would show on his Twitter timeline

EDIT - I see it now, it's a photo on Twitter from another social media app - maybe instagram/facebook


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GreenOnions
03-06-2015, 09:20 AM
Yes they are. I just feel in 2 years time this sight will ( hopefully I'm wrong ) going into melt down with comments like why we're all the players given a 2 year contract etc etc etc. I have no issue with 2 year deals but I do think this may come back to bite us in the bum.

GGTTH

I have to say that I agree with this in general. It is important to plan players' contracts so that too many don't expire at the same time. With the way football is these days there is sufficient of an overhaul required each season without adding further to the issue. I can see that our position in the Championship perhaps alters things a wee bit just now though. Also - as long as these things are addressed on an ongoing basis with extensions being offered where appropriate during the term of a contract then negative impacts can be avoided.

matty_f
03-06-2015, 09:23 AM
One of my favorite moments of the last 5 years!
http://i2.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article5160652.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/JS56814237.jpg

Completely agree. Probably one of my favourite football moments full stop.

kentao
03-06-2015, 09:26 AM
Would really like to see us signing a quality left back. Lewis just isn't good enough I'm afraid. Like the guy for a lot of reasons and if he ever gets a testimonial, I'll be first to buy a ticket. Likewise, if he gets a new contract, he'll get my support regardless. But we need to target the standard of David Murphy who had so many aspects to his game that Lewis just doesn't have. Constantly puzzled by the Lewis love-in on these threads - don't ask me to list his failings in a Hibs Jersey, but if you watch him regularly, you should know what they are. Think he needs a fresh start somewhere else.


The only thing i can fault him for is his final ball.

Great first touch
He has a decent turn of pace,
Superfit
Decent tackler and passer
Consistent

Struggling to think who we could get that would be that much better.

GreenLake
03-06-2015, 09:40 AM
Who is ecks?

I think ecks is a reference to his status as a football player.

MrRobot
03-06-2015, 09:44 AM
The only thing i can fault him for is his final ball.

Great first touch
He has a decent turn of pace,
Superfit
Decent tackler and passer
Consistent

Struggling to think who we could get that would be that much better.

Will never understand peoples problem with Lewis. Gives his all and this season has been probably the most improved player for us. Always liked Lewis but he seems to have added more of an attacking threat last season. Hope we sign him up on a longer deal, he deserves it.

Mikey09
03-06-2015, 09:48 AM
Post 5 or 6 on page 8 has someone who went to the sponsors evening through the page, so it's not exactly a carve up.

Think we still need a back up right back, another centre back and possibly two more midfielders, we certainly need someone in there who can score 8+ next year as the goal return from our midfielders was pitiful last year.

And goalies! Lots of them. Goalscoring ones again please.


Watson would cover both those positions. I really like the lad although I know a few don't.

truehibernian
03-06-2015, 09:52 AM
Will never understand peoples problem with Lewis. Gives his all and this season has been probably the most improved player for us. Always liked Lewis but he seems to have added more of an attacking threat last season. Hope we sign him up on a longer deal, he deserves it.

Good post - I also think that there is a bit of 'better the devil you know' about Lewis staying as long as he has - as he has had interest from other clubs. He's a tremendously loyal and humble guy - I worried that he might be off this year due to his superb consistency the last 3 years under terrible circumstances.

Last season was his best season ever in a Hibs shirt - of course the detractors will say it's in a lower league but hey, you can only play against who the opposition are and he has shone at the level we are at. The little piece of the jigsaw missing is his final ball but he did not too bad on assists last term. Can only improve with better around him and a winning side.

CockneyRebel
03-06-2015, 09:54 AM
I think ecks is a reference to his status as a football player.

Nice one!

Mikey09
03-06-2015, 09:57 AM
If Fontaine isn't signing Gavin Gunning is out of contract. Would defiantly take that lad.

Andy74
03-06-2015, 09:57 AM
Good post - I also think that there is a bit of 'better the devil you know' about Lewis staying as long as he has - as he has had interest from other clubs. He's a tremendously loyal and humble guy - I worried that he might be off this year due to his superb consistency the last 3 years under terrible circumstances.

Last season was his best season ever in a Hibs shirt - of course the detractors will say it's in a lower league but hey, you can only play against who the opposition are and he has shone at the level we are at. The little piece of the jigsaw missing is his final ball but he did not too bad on assists last term. Can only improve with better around him and a winning side.

My slight worry with Stevenson is that he played really well for most of the season but towards the end it wasn't really working for him - he didn't seem to get any joy at taking men on and getting balls into the box which helped contribute to us having a lot of the ball but little to show for it.

Has he been playing above himself and starting to level off? I'd like to see another left back, a left sided David Gray if such a thing is around to make sure that at very least he has competition for the role and we have another option if he can't keep his form going. I wouldn't say no to Eckersley - the sort of player that you don't like when he plays against you. We could do with more of those.

GreenOnions
03-06-2015, 10:03 AM
The only thing i can fault him for is his final ball.

Great first touch
He has a decent turn of pace,
Superfit
Decent tackler and passer
Consistent

Struggling to think who we could get that would be that much better.

Got to say I agree with this. Lewis is also rarely injured and comes across as a very professional guy. I'd say left-back is one of the last positions I'd be looking to strengthen. It would be good to have better cover for both full-back positions though. Ideally one of the youngsters might establish himself as a strong back-up this season. Anyone know if there are viable candidates?

FWIW - IMO Eckersley is a fair bit short in terms of ability compared to Stevenson so, if he came in, I would imagine he would be Lewis' backup. Hopefully we will be able to promote from within though.

CockneyRebel
03-06-2015, 10:06 AM
If Fontaine isn't signing Gavin Gunning is out of contract. Would defiantly take that lad.

Who's he.

hibees 7062
03-06-2015, 10:10 AM
Who's he.

Ex Dundee Utd

PatHead
03-06-2015, 10:11 AM
Got to say I agree with this. Lewis is also rarely injured and comes across as a very professional guy. I'd say left-back is one of the last positions I'd be looking to strengthen. It would be good to have better cover for both full-back positions though. Ideally one of the youngsters might establish himself as a strong back-up this season. Anyone know if there are viable candidates?

FWIW - IMO Eckersley is a fair bit short in terms of ability compared to Stevenson so, if he came in, I would imagine he would be Lewis' backup. Hopefully we will be able to promote from within though.

Not seen the development side - are there any players looking like they are ready to challenge for a place in the first team?

Mikey09
03-06-2015, 10:12 AM
Who's he.


Played with Motherwell then onto Dundee Utd. Went to Birmingham City last year. Big strong centre half who scores his fair share from set pieces. Bit of a no nonsense defender.

CockneyRebel
03-06-2015, 10:17 AM
Played with Motherwell then onto Dundee Utd. Went to Birmingham City last year. Big strong centre half who scores his fair share from set pieces. Bit of a no nonsense defender.

Looked him up on Wiki and his CV looks no bad but has had a few injuries including rear cruciate ligament and he once failed a medical.

db03
03-06-2015, 10:18 AM
off topic here so sorry.
can someone tell me when the season starts again please?

Aldo
03-06-2015, 10:19 AM
Who's he.

Ex dundee Utd CH. Has he not been injured as of late??

NAE NOOKIE
03-06-2015, 10:23 AM
Would really like to see us signing a quality left back. Lewis just isn't good enough I'm afraid. Like the guy for a lot of reasons and if he ever gets a testimonial, I'll be first to buy a ticket. Likewise, if he gets a new contract, he'll get my support regardless. But we need to target the standard of David Murphy who had so many aspects to his game that Lewis just doesn't have. Constantly puzzled by the Lewis love-in on these threads - don't ask me to list his failings in a Hibs Jersey, but if you watch him regularly, you should know what they are. Think he needs a fresh start somewhere else.

Every club needs a Lewis Stevenson ... he can play left back, right back and midfield, the ideal guy to have on the bench and you know you will be getting 100% every time.

If we could find a left back of the quality of David Gray then the bench is where Lewis will end up, but as I said, well worth keeping. As for getting a LB of the quality of David Murphy .... highly unlikely, he was our best left back since Schaedler, it would be a miracle to get quality like that for this league.

NAE NOOKIE
03-06-2015, 10:25 AM
Played with Motherwell then onto Dundee Utd. Went to Birmingham City last year. Big strong centre half who scores his fair share from set pieces. Bit of a no nonsense defender.

Like Michael Nelson :greengrin

ekhibee
03-06-2015, 10:30 AM
bit controversial I know, but if Fontaine wasn't staying Darren McGregor might be an option. Only if he's on a free though.

spike220
03-06-2015, 10:32 AM
My slight worry with Stevenson is that he played really well for most of the season but towards the end it wasn't really working for him - he didn't seem to get any joy at taking men on and getting balls into the box which helped contribute to us having a lot of the ball but little to show for it.

Has he been playing above himself and starting to level off? I'd like to see another left back, a left sided David Gray if such a thing is around to make sure that at very least he has competition for the role and we have another option if he can't keep his form going. I wouldn't say no to Eckersley - the sort of player that you don't like when he plays against you. We could do with more of those.

He has played a lot of football.

spike220
03-06-2015, 10:33 AM
Every club needs a Lewis Stevenson ... he can play left back, right back and midfield, the ideal guy to have on the bench and you know you will be getting 100% every time.

If we could find a left back of the quality of David Gray then the bench is where Lewis will end up, but as I said, well worth keeping. As for getting a LB of the quality of David Murphy .... highly unlikely, he was our best left back since Schaedler, it would be a miracle to get quality like that for this league.

:agree:

JimBHibees
03-06-2015, 10:40 AM
My slight worry with Stevenson is that he played really well for most of the season but towards the end it wasn't really working for him - he didn't seem to get any joy at taking men on and getting balls into the box which helped contribute to us having a lot of the ball but little to show for it.

Has he been playing above himself and starting to level off? I'd like to see another left back, a left sided David Gray if such a thing is around to make sure that at very least he has competition for the role and we have another option if he can't keep his form going. I wouldn't say no to Eckersley - the sort of player that you don't like when he plays against you. We could do with more of those.

That would be my view also not to have a pop at Lewis who has been and continues to be an amazing servant to the club however I think we need to have another option. I am sure were linked with Barry Douglas ex United a few months back who would IMO strengthen us in that area and Lewis could compete with the guy for that position.

PeterboroHibee
03-06-2015, 11:08 AM
bit controversial I know, but if Fontaine wasn't staying Darren McGregor might be an option. Only if he's on a free though.

Hes a decent player, but Im sure I read that the second year on his contract had been activated.

H18S NX
03-06-2015, 11:09 AM
I think ecks is a reference to his status as a football player.
....A reporter asked his teammate "is he a good player"? and his reply was " is he ecks".

southern hibby
03-06-2015, 11:17 AM
And if we had duds sitting on long contracts the site would go into meltdown.

Yes but we're on about fyfie, Allen, grey, Fontaine possibly, nearing that a lot on here reckon is a good prospect. So we're not on about unknown quantities, were on about the backbone of our team.

I will agree with you that if we did sign a dud it would go into meltdown. we wanted Butcher in and thought he would do well and we know how that went.
GGTTH

southern hibby
03-06-2015, 11:18 AM
Nearing should have said Keating generic texting is pants lol
GGTTH

Beefster
03-06-2015, 11:30 AM
Ecks has confirmed on twitter that he is not going to Hibs.

Best Hibs-related news of the week.

Hibi
03-06-2015, 11:43 AM
Would really like to see us signing a quality left back. Lewis just isn't good enough I'm afraid. Like the guy for a lot of reasons and if he ever gets a testimonial, I'll be first to buy a ticket. Likewise, if he gets a new contract, he'll get my support regardless. But we need to target the standard of David Murphy who had so many aspects to his game that Lewis just doesn't have. Constantly puzzled by the Lewis love-in on these threads - don't ask me to list his failings in a Hibs Jersey, but if you watch him regularly, you should know what they are. Think he needs a fresh start somewhere else.

For me Lewis and David both really suffered by being our main outlet when trying to get wide. For large parts of the season they were full backs in a 4-4-2 but had no wide players ahead so charging on with great energy. They were superb at the start, but definitely felt the strain and didn't have the same energy and even picked up muscle strains hindering their finish to the campaign.
We need to ensure we have some competition/cover for him but he was excellent last year.

HUTCHYHIBBY
03-06-2015, 11:45 AM
Nearing should have said Keating generic texting is pants lol
GGTTH

What about Fyfie, Allen and Grey? ;-)

Billy Whizz
03-06-2015, 11:57 AM
off topic here so sorry.
can someone tell me when the season starts again please?

Petrofac cup 25th July
League cup 1st August
Championship season starts 8th August

The SPFL haven't announced when the fixtures will be released though!

Gatecrasher
03-06-2015, 11:59 AM
Petrofac cup 25th July
League cup 1st August
Championship season starts 8th August

The SPFL haven't announced when the fixtures will be released though!

17th of June I think, I saw it somewhere but can't remember.

Ozyhibby
03-06-2015, 12:00 PM
What about Fyfie, Allen and Grey? ;-)

:-)

Iain G
03-06-2015, 12:00 PM
The only thing i can fault him for is his final ball.

Great first touch
He has a decent turn of pace,
Superfit
Decent tackler and passer
Consistent

Struggling to think who we could get that would be that much better.

But I do miss Zambernardi and those booming crossfield diagonal balls from leftback :greengrin

bigwheel
03-06-2015, 12:04 PM
But I do miss Zambernardi and those booming crossfield diagonal balls from leftback :greengrin


bet you don't miss him gifting goals in the 4-4 game at Tyne!

db03
03-06-2015, 12:07 PM
Petrofac cup 25th July
League cup 1st August
Championship season starts 8th August

The SPFL haven't announced when the fixtures will be released though!

thanks mate

Smartie
03-06-2015, 12:07 PM
But I do miss Zambernardi and those booming crossfield diagonal balls from leftback :greengrin

I loved them at the time.

Under Butcher though, Paul Hanlon turned into Zambernardi only without the hair.

He would attempt at least a dozen or so of them each game only with less of an end-product, forever tarnishing the once beautifully exotic booming cross field diagonal pass in my eyes.

Billy Whizz
03-06-2015, 12:08 PM
17th of June I think, I saw it somewhere but can't remember.

It's usually around then, but nothing on the SPFL site under key dates yet though

pacorosssco
03-06-2015, 12:15 PM
What about Stevenson in holding role in front of defense. His natural position if you ask me? With Allen and Fyvie in front and two wingers either side

Iain G
03-06-2015, 12:42 PM
I loved them at the time.

Under Butcher though, Paul Hanlon turned into Zambernardi only without the hair.

He would attempt at least a dozen or so of them each game only with less of an end-product, forever tarnishing the once beautifully exotic booming cross field diagonal pass in my eyes.

Problem was he started using it as his only pass all of the time, quickly got sussed out! Looked a footballer on occasions though...

Wheat Hound
03-06-2015, 12:44 PM
Petrofac cup 25th July
League cup 1st August
Championship season starts 8th August

The SPFL haven't announced when the fixtures will be released though!

Do we definitely start in the cups on these dates?

southern hibby
03-06-2015, 12:46 PM
What about Fyfie, Allen and Grey? ;-)

If you read the text I sent in before that you'd have yer answers

GGTTH

kentao
03-06-2015, 12:59 PM
If you read the text I sent in before that you'd have yer answers

GGTTH

Woooosh

Fyvie, Allan, Gray

southern hibby
03-06-2015, 01:00 PM
Hate this crap obviously I should have said Carmicheal. I'm not making a good argument here am I? Especially with the amount of F### ups I'm making.

GGTTH

Ken
03-06-2015, 01:05 PM
Hate this crap obviously I should have said Carmicheal. I'm not making a good argument here am I? Especially with the amount of F### ups I'm making.

GGTTH

It's Carmichael


;-)


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The_Horde
03-06-2015, 01:09 PM
He has played a lot of football.

Yep.

Needed a rest we couldn't afford him and then he pulled his hammy in the 2nd leg of the playoff.

Smartie
03-06-2015, 01:16 PM
Yep.

Needed a rest we couldn't afford him and then he pulled his hammy in the 2nd leg of the playoff.

Did he really pull his hammy?

The reason I ask is that I don't remember him ever being injured at any point during his time at Hibs (another of his strengths).

Billy Whizz
03-06-2015, 01:20 PM
Do we definitely start in the cups on these dates?

Last season we played around the same time in the petrofac cup, and I believe last year the championship teams started in round 1 of the league cup, we could end up with some northern trips in both

The_Horde
03-06-2015, 04:58 PM
Did he really pull his hammy?

The reason I ask is that I don't remember him ever being injured at any point during his time at Hibs (another of his strengths).

I didn't know either until Stubbs said it in one of the papers.

Thought the decision to take him off was purely tactical.

Dunno what we'd have done had we gotten through with only 3 fit defenders!

The_Horde
03-06-2015, 07:47 PM
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-head-coach-aims-to-strengthen-his-defence-1-3786117

SaulGoodman
03-06-2015, 08:23 PM
@MartinBoyle9: Aye well remember that hibs top is in the same league as your wee team pal👍🏼👍🏼 https://t.co/rG9W6r477a

Is Martin Boyles reply to a sevco fan worth a 2 year contract alone?

andrew70
03-06-2015, 08:25 PM
@MartinBoyle9: Aye well remember that hibs top is in the same league as your wee team pal https://t.co/rG9W6r477a

Is Martin Boyles reply to a sevco fan worth a 2 year contract alone?

Yes although he shouldn't be taking the bait.

Lago
03-06-2015, 08:28 PM
What a disappointing day, no new signings.:greengrin

Brightside
03-06-2015, 08:35 PM
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-head-coach-aims-to-strengthen-his-defence-1-3786117

That's from days ago??

The_Horde
03-06-2015, 09:22 PM
That's from days ago??

It was in response to an earlier post asking about stevensons injury.

BOB MARLEYS DUG
03-06-2015, 09:33 PM
What a disappointing day, no new signings.:greengrin

Agreed. Stubbs out, Leeann out and fans out! Not good enough :greengrin

high bee
03-06-2015, 09:37 PM
What a disappointing day, no new signings.:greengrin

RP was off the last 2 days, was back in today though and immediately stopped this early signing nonsense.

ehf
03-06-2015, 11:13 PM
bet you don't miss him gifting goals in the 4-4 game at Tyne!

That was Alen Orman.

bigwheel
04-06-2015, 04:59 AM
That was Alen Orman.

Not for the 4th it wasn't. Gave the ball back to them from the kick off , then dived in rather than stop the cross .....also dived in at the 3rd

NadeAteMyLunch!
04-06-2015, 06:00 AM
Not for the 4th it wasn't. Gave the ball back to them from the kick off , then dived in rather than stop the cross .....also dived in at the 3rd

Yup. Defo caused the 4th by chipping the ball from kick off straight back to them instead of just keeping hold of it or playing it long into the corner

CRAZYHIBBY
04-06-2015, 06:21 AM
Yup. Defo caused the 4th by chipping the ball from kick off straight back to them instead of just keeping hold of it or playing it long into the corner

Ill never forget that game. ...i remember i sat on the remote and hit search by mistake and when i got the channel back it was 4-4

NadeAteMyLunch!
04-06-2015, 06:30 AM
Ill never forget that game. ...i remember i sat on the remote and hit search by mistake and when i got the channel back it was 4-4

Simply the worst ending to a game ever

Danderhall Hibs
04-06-2015, 06:33 AM
Ill never forget that game. ...i remember i sat on the remote and hit search by mistake and when i got the channel back it was 4-4

My memory is that it wasn't on the telly?

Celtic v Aberdeen was and we had to wait on them finishing before Rob McLean said let's go over to the 8 goal thriller at Tiny...

CRAZYHIBBY
04-06-2015, 06:54 AM
My memory is that it wasn't on the telly?

Celtic v Aberdeen was and we had to wait on them finishing before Rob McLean said let's go over to the 8 goal thriller at Tiny...

It wasn't ...i was listening on the tranny and the crowd were giving it the oh bobby bobby.....Then i sat down with a fresh can and sat on the remote. ....a minute or so later i got the channel back and just sat in disbelief

pontius pilate
04-06-2015, 06:58 AM
I was in Bosnia just left the ops room to go for a bite to eat a 3 min walk. Left the ops room it was 4-2 by the time I got over to the scoff hall and sat down it was 4-4 unreal

Iain G
04-06-2015, 07:03 AM
It wasn't ...i was listening on the tranny and the crowd were giving it the oh bobby bobby.....Then i sat down with a fresh can and sat on the remote. ....a minute or so later i got the channel back and just sat in disbelief

Highlights are online, if anyone wants to relive it...not posting a link! :wink:

Roxyhibee
04-06-2015, 07:10 AM
The only thing i can fault him for is his final ball.

Great first touch
He has a decent turn of pace,
Superfit
Decent tackler and passer
Consistent

Struggling to think who we could get that would be that much better.

Ahh definitely not consistent. Definitely not. Apart from the odd memorable very good game and a decent run at the beginning of last season, Lewis is guilty of being posted missing over long spells and in particular, big games, where he was practically invisible for those now historic terrible results we suffered past few seasons. And this is a crucial thing deciding if a player can begin to be classed as very good or not - consistency. We are setting our standards on a guy we all like and admire for other reasons other than consistent good performances and being there when we need him. Emotion over business, classic losing mentality which we are now identified with. The same can be said for Hanlon. Both great guys but lack consistency and a winning mentality and I'm convinced there are better players (look at Gray and Fontaine as examples just from last seasons quick summer purchases) available to Hibs, who should be aiming top 4 of the SPL every single season. We need a quality confident left back who can mark his man and deliver a cross into the box week in week out with the odd duff game, not the other way around.

bingo70
04-06-2015, 07:13 AM
One of those hibs Twitter pages saying we're getting a young Chelsea player on loan.

CRAZYHIBBY
04-06-2015, 07:14 AM
Hearts looking at finalising deal for gavin reilly from queens.....Can only be a good thing for us as it weakens them further as he was one of their top scorers last season

The_Horde
04-06-2015, 07:31 AM
One of those hibs Twitter pages saying we're getting a young Chelsea player on loan.

Interesting.

What age is Feruz these days?

Aldo
04-06-2015, 07:37 AM
Ahh definitely not consistent. Definitely not. Apart from the odd memorable very good game and a decent run at the beginning of last season, Lewis is guilty of being posted missing over long spells and in particular, big games, where he was practically invisible for those now historic terrible results we suffered past few seasons. And this is a crucial thing deciding if a player can begin to be classed as very good or not - consistency. We are setting our standards on a guy we all like and admire for other reasons other than consistent good performances and being there when we need him. Emotion over business, classic losing mentality which we are now identified with. The same can be said for Hanlon. Both great guys but lack consistency and a winning mentality and I'm convinced there are better players (look at Gray and Fontaine as examples just from last seasons quick summer purchases) available to Hibs, who should be aiming top 4 of the SPL every single season. We need a quality confident left back who can mark his man and deliver a cross into the box week in week out with the odd duff game, not the other way around.


So let me get this straight.... Lewis is not consistent?? I'll give you his final ball could be better but and yes there is a but.... How many goals and assists from LB.

So going by your last paragraph he's poor most games and has the odd good one. REALLY!

I will say this anyone in our team is replaceable and if someone of better quality comes along then yes they should be replaced but FFS we are Hibs not Man U or Chelsea. We play in the 2nd tier of Scottish Football. Who do you want us to sign.

My_Wife_Camille
04-06-2015, 07:40 AM
One of those hibs Twitter pages saying we're getting a young Chelsea player on loan.
Seen this on Twitter last night. 2+2=5?


@sean_p_1875: Do you believe in Islam 😁👌 #Praying #Hibs

matty_f
04-06-2015, 07:41 AM
My memory is that it wasn't on the telly?

Celtic v Aberdeen was and we had to wait on them finishing before Rob McLean said let's go over to the 8 goal thriller at Tiny...

I had to work that day and was only getting sporadic score updates, so when I heard it was 4-4 I wasn't that fussed about it, disappointed not to have won but I thought it must have been a good game.

I'm glad I had no idea how the game panned out and how it got to that scoreline. By the time I found that out I had decided I was quite happy with the point!

Ronniekirk
04-06-2015, 07:41 AM
Interesting.

What age is Feruz these days?
Must still be under 21 I. Was thinking it might be young player for development squad but the more I think about it Stubbs and his team have been successfull in targeting promising talent ,that maybe moved down south too soon ,and helping them get their career back on track . stubbs track record means we can probably attract players that previously wouldn't have Seen us as the vehicle for doing that .

Roxyhibee
04-06-2015, 07:53 AM
So let me get this straight.... Lewis is not consistent?? I'll give you his final ball could be better but and yes there is a but.... How many goals and assists from LB.

So going by your last paragraph he's poor most games and has the odd good one. REALLY!

I will say this anyone in our team is replaceable and if someone of better quality comes along then yes they should be replaced but FFS we are Hibs not Man U or Chelsea. We play in the 2nd tier of Scottish Football. Who do you want us to sign.

Yep. We play in the 2nd tier of Scottish Football (going into at least a second season..) and clubs like St Johnstone and ICT who are miniscule compared to us, don't. And are winning Scottish cups too.! Unbelievable isn't it.? And as a great example, ICT have consistent in-your-face players who are difficult to play against most weeks. You know as well as I do there are much better players out there for us. Accepting mediocrity is the reason we are where we are.

Hanny
04-06-2015, 07:54 AM
Interesting.

What age is Feruz these days?

19. Turns 20 on 10th September.

Ozyhibby
04-06-2015, 07:57 AM
I had to work that day and was only getting sporadic score updates, so when I heard it was 4-4 I wasn't that fussed about it, disappointed not to have won but I thought it must have been a good game.

I'm glad I had no idea how the game panned out and how it got to that scoreline. By the time I found that out I had decided I was quite happy with the point!

I 'watched' on the old Hibs.net chat boxes that used to be on here. I was living in Oz at the time and it was the middle of the night. Not a pleasant experience.

Ozyhibby
04-06-2015, 07:58 AM
Yep. We play in the 2nd tier of Scottish Football (going into at least a second season..) and clubs like St Johnstone and ICT who are miniscule compared to us, don't. And are winning Scottish cups too.! Unbelievable isn't it.? And as a great example, ICT have consistent in-your-face players who are difficult to play against most weeks. You know as well as I do there are much better players out there for us. Accepting mediocrity is the reason we are where we are.

100% correct

PeterboroHibee
04-06-2015, 08:01 AM
Ahh definitely not consistent. Definitely not. Apart from the odd memorable very good game and a decent run at the beginning of last season, Lewis is guilty of being posted missing over long spells and in particular, big games, where he was practically invisible for those now historic terrible results we suffered past few seasons. And this is a crucial thing deciding if a player can begin to be classed as very good or not - consistency. We are setting our standards on a guy we all like and admire for other reasons other than consistent good performances and being there when we need him. Emotion over business, classic losing mentality which we are now identified with. The same can be said for Hanlon. Both great guys but lack consistency and a winning mentality and I'm convinced there are better players (look at Gray and Fontaine as examples just from last seasons quick summer purchases) available to Hibs, who should be aiming top 4 of the SPL every single season. We need a quality confident left back who can mark his man and deliver a cross into the box week in week out with the odd duff game, not the other way around.

I dont think theres much in your argument against Stevenson. You want consistency, which I agree players should have, but when has Stevenson had any consistency from managers in the past? This is the first season a manager has put him in a settled position, and subsequently he was voted the best LB in the Championship, had his best goal return in a Hibs shirt, and was I think our player with the 3rd highest number of assists (behind Cummings and Allan).

Can we do better? Of course, but then theres not a player in the squad we couldnt improve upon in theory. Stevenson is a good LB though, playing his part in a defence that actually did well this season, and he clearly contributed going forward. The only thing that was really missing this season was some sort of competent back up to push him further, and to give him a rest.

Peevemor
04-06-2015, 08:17 AM
I had to work that day and was only getting sporadic score updates, so when I heard it was 4-4 I wasn't that fussed about it, disappointed not to have won but I thought it must have been a good game.

I'm glad I had no idea how the game panned out and how it got to that scoreline. By the time I found that out I had decided I was quite happy with the point!


I still lived in Edinburgh at the time but was across in St Malo for Christmas/New Year. I went to an internet café when the match was due to finish and saw the update where James (IIRC) scored at the end of the 90 minutes to make it 3-2 Hibs. Chuffed to bits I then quickly checked my emails and couldn't believe my eyes when I checked again to confirm our win, only to see that it was 4-4.

My reaction earned me a few funny looks from those around me.

flash
04-06-2015, 08:25 AM
Is this still the transfer thread?

Brightside
04-06-2015, 08:25 AM
Ahh definitely not consistent. Definitely not. Apart from the odd memorable very good game and a decent run at the beginning of last season, Lewis is guilty of being posted missing over long spells and in particular, big games, where he was practically invisible for those now historic terrible results we suffered past few seasons. And this is a crucial thing deciding if a player can begin to be classed as very good or not - consistency. We are setting our standards on a guy we all like and admire for other reasons other than consistent good performances and being there when we need him. Emotion over business, classic losing mentality which we are now identified with. The same can be said for Hanlon. Both great guys but lack consistency and a winning mentality and I'm convinced there are better players (look at Gray and Fontaine as examples just from last seasons quick summer purchases) available to Hibs, who should be aiming top 4 of the SPL every single season. We need a quality confident left back who can mark his man and deliver a cross into the box week in week out with the odd duff game, not the other way around.
Hanlon. Stevenson. Fontaine. Have been the 3 most consistent players of last season. Thinking otherwise wouldn't be based on actual performance.

Aldo
04-06-2015, 08:30 AM
Yep. We play in the 2nd tier of Scottish Football (going into at least a second season..) and clubs like St Johnstone and ICT who are miniscule compared to us, don't. And are winning Scottish cups too.! Unbelievable isn't it.? And as a great example, ICT have consistent in-your-face players who are difficult to play against most weeks. You know as well as I do there are much better players out there for us. Accepting mediocrity is the reason we are where we are.

Thought the post was about Lewis and him being poor and inconsistent. We've now jumped to the acceptance of mediocracy?

I like every other Hibs fan want the best for the club and wants us to go out there and win. To do that we need a balanced team which means there are going to be players who go about their business with the minimum of fuss. Every team has them.

However once again the 'easy target' that is Lewis Stevenson is picked out for ' being inconsistent' and 'having too many duff games than good ones'.

Lewis was consistent for pretty much the whole season yet one or 2 bad games and he's top of the hit list again. Scored goals and chipped in with 8 or so assists.

Every player is replaceable plain and simple its finding that quality on our budget that's the issue.

So answer these question's... Do you think Lewis had a poor season and wasn't consistent enough. Did he have more games where he was guff or more when he was consistent!!

As for better players??? There are always better players regardless of what team you are. If Stubbs thinks Lewis is the man to fill the LB slot then that's good enough for me. I am really puzzled by your comments about him being guff for most of the season tho?

FWIW I am not and never will accept mediocracy.

Aldo
04-06-2015, 08:32 AM
Must still be under 21 I. Was thinking it might be young player for development squad but the more I think about it Stubbs and his team have been successfull in targeting promising talent ,that maybe moved down south too soon ,and helping them get their career back on track . stubbs track record means we can probably attract players that previously wouldn't have Seen us as the vehicle for doing that .

Agree Ronnie. The boy Feruz would be a bit of a coup tbh. Tricky and can beat and player or 2.

Will be disappointed if we don't announce a signing today?? ;-)

Thecat23
04-06-2015, 08:35 AM
Thought the post was about Lewis and him being poor and inconsistent. We've now jumped to the acceptance of mediocracy?

I like every other Hibs fan want the best for the club and wants us to go out there and win. To do that we need a balanced team which means there are going to be players who go about their business with the minimum of fuss. Every team has them.

However once again the 'easy target' that is Lewis Stevenson is picked out for ' being inconsistent' and 'having too many duff games than good ones'.

Lewis was consistent for pretty much the whole season yet one or 2 bad games and he's top of the hit list again. Scored goals and chipped in with 8 or so assists.

Every player is replaceable plain and simple its finding that quality on our budget that's the issue.

So answer these question's... Do you think Lewis had a poor season and wasn't consistent enough. Did he have more games where he was guff or more when he was consistent!!

As for better players??? There are always better players regardless of what team you are. If Stubbs thinks Lewis is the man to fill the LB slot then that's good enough for me. I am really puzzled by your comments about him being guff for most of the season tho?

FWIW I am not and never will accept mediocracy.

This 100%. Well said.

Last Minute
04-06-2015, 08:36 AM
Lewis getting announced today


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Aldo
04-06-2015, 08:36 AM
Lewis getting announced today Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Great news.

Danderhall Hibs
04-06-2015, 08:39 AM
I still lived in Edinburgh at the time but was across in St Malo for Christmas/New Year. I went to an internet café when the match was due to finish and saw the update where James (IIRC) scored at the end of the 90 minutes to make it 3-2 Hibs. Chuffed to bits I then quickly checked my emails and couldn't believe my eyes when I checked again to confirm our win, only to see that it was 4-4.

My reaction earned me a few funny looks from those around me.

I was working and finished early to go to the inlaws. Got there and brother in law phoned to say it's 3-2 and we've got a penalty and only a couple of minutes to go. Magic we all thought.

"Can we turn the telly on please granny" - did so and Rob or Dougie goes "over to tiny or a report on the 8 goal thriller".

We all knew what had happened before they spoke.

SlickShoes
04-06-2015, 08:40 AM
I still lived in Edinburgh at the time but was across in St Malo for Christmas/New Year. I went to an internet café when the match was due to finish and saw the update where James (IIRC) scored at the end of the 90 minutes to make it 3-2 Hibs. Chuffed to bits I then quickly checked my emails and couldn't believe my eyes when I checked again to confirm our win, only to see that it was 4-4.

My reaction earned me a few funny looks from those around me.

I have everyone beat on the 4-4 game, I was in the Hearts end. In that hovel of a main stand since all my mates were jambos and had a spare ticket, they were jumping all over me, I just got out as quick as possible when it hit 4-4, one of the worst experiences in my entire life.

On the flipside I took my hearts mate into the east for the 2-1 Benji game, he was doing the bounce and everything, never let him forget that.

Scottiedog007
04-06-2015, 09:05 AM
Paul Barnes ‏@STVPaul 2m2 minutes ago
Hibernian's longest serving player, Lewis Stevenson, has signed a new 2 year contract with the club.



Kenny Millar ‏@Kenny_Millar 1m1 minute ago
Good to see Hibs reward Lewis Stevenson with a new two-year deal. Testimonial will surely follow.

flash
04-06-2015, 09:14 AM
Makes sense. Great news Monday and Tuesday, day off Wednesday, mediocre Thursday then a big one again Friday.

brog
04-06-2015, 09:16 AM
Thought the post was about Lewis and him being poor and inconsistent. We've now jumped to the acceptance of mediocracy?

I like every other Hibs fan want the best for the club and wants us to go out there and win. To do that we need a balanced team which means there are going to be players who go about their business with the minimum of fuss. Every team has them.

However once again the 'easy target' that is Lewis Stevenson is picked out for ' being inconsistent' and 'having too many duff games than good ones'.

Lewis was consistent for pretty much the whole season yet one or 2 bad games and he's top of the hit list again. Scored goals and chipped in with 8 or so assists.

Every player is replaceable plain and simple its finding that quality on our budget that's the issue.

So answer these question's... Do you think Lewis had a poor season and wasn't consistent enough. Did he have more games where he was guff or more when he was consistent!!

As for better players??? There are always better players regardless of what team you are. If Stubbs thinks Lewis is the man to fill the LB slot then that's good enough for me. I am really puzzled by your comments about him being guff for most of the season tho?

FWIW I am not and never will accept mediocracy.

Top post! I recognise Lewis' limitations but the comments on here are at times ridiculous, it's probably Lewis' fault that FIFA is corrupt! I posted a while back that the single worst piece of play which had the most negative impact on our season was our defending for Falkirk's goal in the semi. If Lewis, or Paul H had been culpable he would have been slaughtered on here, instead I did not read one adverse comment (& i'm pleased about that).
The ironic thing is the OP mentions 2 top ( but much smaller ) SPFL teams winning trophies. My info is these teams were only 2 of several SPFL teams interested in signing Lewis!!

CockneyRebel
04-06-2015, 09:19 AM
Top post! I recognise Lewis' limitations but the comments on here are at times ridiculous, it's probably Lewis' fault that FIFA is corrupt! I posted a while back that the single worst piece of play which had the most negative impact on our season was our defending for Falkirk's goal in the semi. If Lewis, or Paul H had been culpable he would have been slaughtered on here, instead I did not read one adverse comment (& i'm pleased about that).
The ironic thing is the OP mentions 2 top ( but much smaller ) SPFL teams winning trophies. My info is these teams were only 2 of several SPFL teams interested in signing Lewis!!



Of course it is!

Albanian Hibs
04-06-2015, 09:25 AM
Makes sense. Great news Monday and Tuesday, day off Wednesday, mediocre Thursday then a big one again Friday.

Mediocre???

Ozyhibby
04-06-2015, 09:30 AM
Mediocre???

I would say good. :-)

Aldo
04-06-2015, 09:31 AM
Top post! I recognise Lewis' limitations but the comments on here are at times ridiculous, it's probably Lewis' fault that FIFA is corrupt! I posted a while back that the single worst piece of play which had the most negative impact on our season was our defending for Falkirk's goal in the semi. If Lewis, or Paul H had been culpable he would have been slaughtered on here, instead I did not read one adverse comment (& i'm pleased about that). The ironic thing is the OP mentions 2 top ( but much smaller ) SPFL teams winning trophies. My info is these teams were only 2 of several SPFL teams interested in signing Lewis!!

Every player has his limitations IMHO!

Lewis and Paul get torn to shreds when they make a mistake yet others seem immune to it.

FWIW both are going to play a very big part next season and I for one am glad they are part of the team.

flash
04-06-2015, 09:33 AM
Mediocre???

Well it's not a surprise like the first two.

Brightside
04-06-2015, 09:41 AM
Every player has his limitations IMHO!

Lewis and Paul get torn to shreds when they make a mistake yet others seem immune to it.

FWIW both are going to play a very big part next season and I for one am glad they are part of the team.

Prime example Scotty Allan had a good few shockers this season - so much so that he was subbed or dropped. If the same had happened to Lewis and Paul there would be a bunch of threads on here syaing we need to get rid of these poor players. I'd have all 3 in my team every single week!

Aldo
04-06-2015, 09:42 AM
Prime example Scotty Allan had a good few shockers this season - so much so that he was subbed or dropped. If the same had happened to Lewis and Paul there would be a bunch of threads on here syaing we need to get rid of these poor players. I'd have all 3 in my team every single week!

So would I.

I don't expect that to change next season either. (The threads slating them that is)

Oscar T Grouch
04-06-2015, 10:18 AM
Seems Stubbs thinks one of Lewis' best qualities is his consistancy:confused: Go figure :greengrin

Great news about my favourite Hibs player. Been a big fan for the last 10 years, hope there are many more to come :flag:

PatHead
04-06-2015, 10:24 AM
Is he getting a testimonial?

J-C
04-06-2015, 10:25 AM
Is he getting a testimonial?


Most do when they get to 10 years at a club

Borderhibbie76
04-06-2015, 11:07 AM
What chance Fontaine and an Allan extension next?? So far the ITKs have been pretty spot on...just need these 2 to come in now...

Aldo
04-06-2015, 11:12 AM
What chance Fontaine and an Allan extension next?? So far the ITKs have been pretty spot on...just need these 2 to come in now...

Indeed.

That and a keeper or 2 would be great

Borderhibbie76
04-06-2015, 11:13 AM
Indeed.

That and a keeper or 2 would be great

Aye a keeper or 2 would be handy Aldo 😉

Aldo
04-06-2015, 11:15 AM
Aye a keeper or 2 would be handy Aldo dde09

Hopefully a few more signings announced before the weeks out!

delbert
04-06-2015, 11:23 AM
Most do when they get to 10 years at a club

I beg to differ, Joe Tortolano was at Easter Road for 12 years and didn't get a sniff of a testemonial - just saying.

Waxy
04-06-2015, 11:33 AM
I beg to differ, Joe Tortolano was at Easter Road for 12 years and didn't get a sniff of a testemonial - just saying.Joe played in someone elses testemonial though' and didnt last very long.

Golden Bear
04-06-2015, 11:43 AM
Joe played in someone elses testemonial though' and didnt last very long.

If that wasn't so sad, it would be extremely funny.

Ach - it is funny.


:big grin:

Winston Ingram
04-06-2015, 11:58 AM
Fantastic news about Lewis. :agree:

IanM
04-06-2015, 11:59 AM
@hibernian_news: BREAKING RUMOUR: We understand Hibs are making moves to bring Islam Feruz on loan to the club

Brightside
04-06-2015, 12:02 PM
@hibernian_news: BREAKING RUMOUR: We understand Hibs are making moves to bring Islam Feruz on loan to the club
:rolleyes:

McIntosh
04-06-2015, 12:03 PM
@hibernian_news: BREAKING RUMOUR: We understand Hibs are making moves to bring Islam Feruz on loan to the club oh God - "breaking rumour"!!!!! Here is the problem with this player, "was well-known that the striker’s ego and attitude both in the changing room and on the training pitch made him somewhat unpopular when he was in Scotland, but it seems that he simply can’t shake off his own belief that he is better than what he actually is"

QMU-1875
04-06-2015, 12:09 PM
@hibernian_news: BREAKING RUMOUR: We understand Hibs are making moves to bring Islam Feruz on loan to the club
Would be a great bit of business fits the bill of player Stubbs has been signing as in young and career needs a bit of first team football. He failed at Blackpool on loan and he is rated highly at Chelsea, maybe this would be the break he needs! Fingers crossed!

Hibs90
04-06-2015, 12:11 PM
Heard a rumour about Ben Amos this morning...

Clancy
04-06-2015, 12:13 PM
@hibernian_news: BREAKING RUMOUR: We understand Hibs are making moves to bring Islam Feruz on loan to the club

Good seeing younger players being a prospect in the team

Hermit Crab
04-06-2015, 12:16 PM
Id rather we got permanent signings rather than loans. Loanees attitudes have been a problem in the past.

Brightside
04-06-2015, 12:17 PM
Good seeing younger players being a prospect in the team

Dont understand Tim? Why would getting a bug headed loan player from Chelsea be a good thing?

Dumfrieshibs
04-06-2015, 12:17 PM
Heard a rumour about Ben Amos this morning...

His scoring record is abysmal......get Oxley re-signed :greengrin

Gatecrasher
04-06-2015, 12:18 PM
@hibernian_news: BREAKING RUMOUR: We understand Hibs are making moves to bring Islam Feruz on loan to the club

:hilarious

Haymaker
04-06-2015, 12:18 PM
19. Turns 20 on 10th September.

According to his passport.

Dashing Bob S
04-06-2015, 12:18 PM
Like Lewis, glad he's signed, but in news/excitement level, it's a bit like telling my mother there is an all-new episode of Coronation Street for her to look forward to this Monday.

Dashing Bob S
04-06-2015, 12:20 PM
@hibernian_news: BREAKING RUMOUR: We understand Hibs are making moves to bring Islam Feruz on loan to the club

Heard we were in the market for Christian Geezit as well.

Clancy
04-06-2015, 12:22 PM
Any further update/information on goalkeeper targets since the end of loan spell for Oxley?

QMU-1875
04-06-2015, 12:24 PM
Noticed quite a few different tweets about Feruz to hibs are popping up. Anyone in the know heard anything about it?

Brightside
04-06-2015, 12:25 PM
Noticed quite a few different tweets about Feruz to hibs are popping up. Anyone in the know heard anything about it?

He's pish and a pain in the hole. But thats all ive heard.

JimBHibees
04-06-2015, 12:29 PM
He's pish and a pain in the hole. But thats all ive heard.

So that will be a yes to him signing. :greengrin

ALF TUPPER
04-06-2015, 12:34 PM
Heard we were in the market for Christian Geezit as well.

Good one

:hilarious

Gie the baw tae Geezit

The_Horde
04-06-2015, 12:39 PM
oh God - "breaking rumour"!!!!! Here is the problem with this player, "was well-known that the striker’s ego and attitude both in the changing room and on the training pitch made him somewhat unpopular when he was in Scotland, but it seems that he simply can’t shake off his own belief that he is better than what he actually is"

These rumours were also said of Scott Allan, he's turned out alright.

Turkish Green
04-06-2015, 12:41 PM
Id rather we got permanent signings rather than loans. Loanees attitudes have been a problem in the past.

It is all about making sure you sign the right individual whether a loanee or permanent. In this day and age the background information on a player is easily available and checkable.

The Leith Dutch
04-06-2015, 12:43 PM
Accepting mediocrity is the reason we are where we are.

Not having a pop at you personally but the "Accepting mediocrity" accusation is every bit as much a sign of not having a decent argument to back up a point as saying "We'll agree to differ"

By all means disagree about someone's assesment of a player but do it by pointing out the reasons you think that player isn't good enough.

Brightside
04-06-2015, 12:48 PM
These rumours were also said of Scott Allan, he's turned out alright.

This boy has been on loan at bang average clubs and still failed to get a game. I know someone that worked with him at Scotland youth level and said his attitude was shocking. I'm really hopping this is one that is just the usual made up rubbish.

McIntosh
04-06-2015, 12:49 PM
These rumours were also said of Scott Allan, he's turned out alright. I think the difference here with Feruz is the baggage that goes alongside with him. He is only 19 but the history of it from a young age makes me not want to touch him with a barge pole. Not worth the hassle, particularly when we are on the point of building something good team wise.

Danderhall Hibs
04-06-2015, 12:49 PM
[tQUOTE=underscore;4391946]This boy has been on loan at bang average clubs and still failed to get a game. I know someone that worked with him at Scotland youth level and said his attitude was shocking. I'm really hopping this is one that is just the usual made up rubbish.[/QUOTE]

Similar to Allan then?

McIntosh
04-06-2015, 12:53 PM
[tQUOTE=underscore;4391946]This boy has been on loan at bang average clubs and still failed to get a game. I know someone that worked with him at Scotland youth level and said his attitude was shocking. I'm really hopping this is one that is just the usual made up rubbish.

Similar to Allan then?[/QUOTE] No - Allan played 37 games on loan scoring three goal - Feruz actually got 27 minutes. A big difference, so no comparison there.

QMU-1875
04-06-2015, 12:58 PM
Similar to Allan then? No - Allan played 33 games on loan scoring two goal - Feruz actually got 27 minutes. A big difference, so no comparison there.[/QUOTE]

Wow appears you have a bit of a vendetta with Feruz! Personally I can see the comparison, both had attitude problems and both have talent, Allan didn't do well on loan until he was 20. We are in the Scottish Champiobship I think he could make a massive impact here, hope we get him! Definitely someone who if developed correct like Stubbs has done in the past can become a great player!

The_Horde
04-06-2015, 01:06 PM
Players with talent but who've issues are what Alan Stubbs does best. And if hibs are going to sign players with genuine quality then they'll always have to have a flaw or else they'd be plying their trade elsewhere.

If he comes in then I trust AS. If he doesn't then we'll probably take a gamble on another player soon and we'll have this debate again.

On a side note.. Anyone heard anything about Tony Hibbert?

Jim44
04-06-2015, 01:19 PM
In some ways, no news/publicity about Scott Allan is good news. However, despite what he has said about wanting to stay at ER to finish the job he came for, no-one, except maybe Stubbs, really knows who he will be with next season. Fair enough in some respects but look at it from the worst case scenario. He is currently a Hibs player, he will start and almost complete pre-season with Hibs, yet, when the transfer window heats up, we might find that he is tempted/allowed to go to another club, albeit for a fee. That's bad news and late news in terms of our plans and preparation and, despite the disappointment it would cause, there's a case for sorting out the issue as soon as possible, even if that means letting him go now. Sorry for the negative slant to the SA situation amidst the present feel good climate but a late departure towards the end of the window is no good to us.

Brightside
04-06-2015, 01:33 PM
No - Allan played 33 games on loan scoring two goal - Feruz actually got 27 minutes. A big difference, so no comparison there.

Wow appears you have a bit of a vendetta with Feruz! Personally I can see the comparison, both had attitude problems and both have talent, Allan didn't do well on loan until he was 20. We are in the Scottish Champiobship I think he could make a massive impact here, hope we get him! Definitely someone who if developed correct like Stubbs has done in the past can become a great player![/QUOTE]

Based on what? A newspaper article from 4 years ago? He's done nothing for the last two years.

QMU-1875
04-06-2015, 01:38 PM
Wow appears you have a bit of a vendetta with Feruz! Personally I can see the comparison, both had attitude problems and both have talent, Allan didn't do well on loan until he was 20. We are in the Scottish Champiobship I think he could make a massive impact here, hope we get him! Definitely someone who if developed correct like Stubbs has done in the past can become a great player!

Based on what? A newspaper article from 4 years ago? He's done nothing for the last two years.[/QUOTE]

Based on the fact he's won medals at Chelseas youth team. He is highly rated, fact.

CockneyRebel
04-06-2015, 01:40 PM
In some ways, no news/publicity about Scott Allan is good news. However, despite what he has said about wanting to stay at ER to finish the job he came for, no-one, except maybe Stubbs, really knows who he will be with next season. Fair enough in some respects but look at it from the worst case scenario. He is currently a Hibs player, he will start and almost complete pre-season with Hibs, yet, when the transfer window heats up, we might find that he is tempted/allowed to go to another club, albeit for a fee. That's bad news and late news in terms of our plans and preparation and, despite the disappointment it would cause, there's a case for sorting out the issue as soon as possible, even if that means letting him go now. Sorry for the negative slant to the SA situation amidst the present feel good climate but a late departure towards the end of the window is no good to us.


I would hope that if he is wanting a move or we need to sell if he won't extend his contract then the management would be aware of this and be looking for a replacement. I would like to think that the collective spirit within the club just now would mean a close relationship and we won't get caught on the hop. Finding a similar replacement in our price range would be extremely difficult.

McIntosh
04-06-2015, 02:05 PM
Wow appears you have a bit of a vendetta with Feruz! Personally I can see the comparison, both had attitude problems and both have talent, Allan didn't do well on loan until he was 20. We are in the Scottish Championship I think he could make a massive impact here, hope we get him! Definitely someone who if developed correct like Stubbs has done in the past can become a great player!

I have no vendetta against this young man. However, he is not comparable on the playing front to Allan. The facts - the data will tell you otherwise. At the same age, Allan had played 12 first team games, Feruz has played 27 mins on loan. Even, if the "rumours" about Allan's were true he did not surround himself with an entourage of the worst type of advisers and hangers on. Some play have undoubted talent but they are not worth the hassle. Unfortunately, I think Feruz falls into that category.

Brightside
04-06-2015, 02:08 PM
Based on what? A newspaper article from 4 years ago? He's done nothing for the last two years.

Based on the fact he's won medals at Chelseas youth team. He is highly rated, fact.[/QUOTE]

He was very highly rated 4 years ago... He has not developed since then.

Roxyhibee
04-06-2015, 02:10 PM
Not having a pop at you personally but the "Accepting mediocrity" accusation is every bit as much a sign of not having a decent argument to back up a point as saying "We'll agree to differ"

By all means disagree about someone's assesment of a player but do it by pointing out the reasons you think that player isn't good enough.

I did say I wasn't going to go into a list of Lewis's performance faults - and did say the guy always did and will continue to get my full support when he's in a green jersey. He's committed, fit, loyal and tries to do his very best for Hibs, which is why I was on my feet the season before last when he got a special award just for his attitude in a very difficult season at the supporters player of the year night. And it's why I'll definitely be at his testimonial. I like him.

Also accept that it's been difficult for any player to flourish at Easter Road with the amount of managerial upheaval that's been at farcical levels the past several years. He's been all over the team in that time and I'm still unsure what his best position is and I'm not sure he knows either. But I don't think he's a dominant left back.

This is about me (and a lot of other fans I know) not getting over excited about him being that left back for the foreseeable future - if Stubbs is going to put him in there again then so be it. I'll be there every game giving my support as always. Maybe he will make him a better player, (I'd like to see him marking his man a lot tighter and getting far more crosses in the box when he's going forward for starters). This is Hibs in the second tier again, so it shouldn't be that difficult to perform consistently to a high standard. We'll need that performance level from all the players every week and in the six pointer games to win that league.

We all have different opinions about players and I want a higher standard and I think they're out there. Simple as that. But I'll put my faith in Stubbs' backroom team working with Lewis and hope he proves me wrong. I'll be delighted if so. Let's see.

Bostonhibby
04-06-2015, 02:14 PM
Chelsea fans who follow hibs too that I travel up with both say he has been a handful there. They think he is probably in last chance saloon and they already have better in that age group

Aldo
04-06-2015, 02:33 PM
I did say I wasn't going to go into a list of Lewis's performance faults - and did say the guy always did and will continue to get my full support when he's in a green jersey. He's committed, fit, loyal and tries to do his very best for Hibs, which is why I was on my feet the season before last when he got a special award just for his attitude in a very difficult season at the supporters player of the year night. And it's why I'll definitely be at his testimonial. I like him. Also accept that it's been difficult for any player to flourish at Easter Road with the amount of managerial upheaval that's been at farcical levels the past several years. He's been all over the team in that time and I'm still unsure what his best position is and I'm not sure he knows either. But I don't think he's a dominant left back. This is about me (and a lot of other fans I know) not getting over excited about him being that left back for the foreseeable future - if Stubbs is going to put him in there again then so be it. I'll be there every game giving my support as always. Maybe he will make him a better player, (I'd like to see him marking his man a lot tighter and getting far more crosses in the box when he's going forward for starters). This is Hibs in the second tier again, so it shouldn't be that difficult to perform consistently to a high standard. We'll need that performance level from all the players every week and in the six pointer games to win that league. We all have different opinions about players and I want a higher standard and I think they're out there. Simple as that. But I'll put my faith in Stubbs' backroom team working with Lewis and hope he proves me wrong. I'll be delighted if so. Let's see.

Here is what you posted earlier to which I responded to :-

Ahh definitely not consistent. Definitely not. Apart from the odd memorable very good game and a decent run at the beginning of last season, Lewis is guilty of being posted missing over long spells and in particular, big games, where he was practically invisible for those now historic terrible results we suffered past few seasons. And this is a crucial thing deciding if a player can begin to be classed as very good or not - consistency. We are setting our standards on a guy we all like and admire for other reasons other than consistent good performances and being there when we need him. Emotion over business, classic losing mentality which we are now identified with. The same can be said for Hanlon. Both great guys but lack consistency and a winning mentality and I'm convinced there are better players (look at Gray and Fontaine as examples just from last seasons quick summer purchases) available to Hibs, who should be aiming top 4 of the SPL every single season. We need a quality confident left back who can mark his man and deliver a cross into the box week in week out with the odd duff game, not the other way around.


You've mentioned Hanlon in all this but for me he was more consistent than Gray who had a poor end to the season like many others did. Who was at fault for the Falkirk goal. Why did McGeouch turn his back on Sibbald who went onto score?? Why are you not pointing out other players who have been poor at times?? Simple because Lewis is an easy target.

So his final ball isn't great but that didn't stop him for providing 8 or so assists and chipped in with goals. He's playing left back and barring the odd mistake he's played a helluva lot of better games than duff games.

He's signed for a further 2 years and it's probably odds on that he will fill the LB slot for the coming season.

Lewis has many attributes

Composure
Passing
Strength
Pace
Determination
Good in the air for someone whose not tall
Tackling

So for me an all round player.

He brings balance to the team so guess what you are wrong to say he's had more duff than good games. Maybe you should watch him play in games rather than get stuck into him.

Haymaker
04-06-2015, 02:34 PM
Chelsea fans who follow hibs too that I travel up with both say he has been a handful there. They think he is probably in last chance saloon and they already have better in that age group

:agree: Was very highly rated apparently but younger players are ahead of him now. They have a very good youth set up at the moment.

Roxyhibee
04-06-2015, 02:44 PM
Here is what you posted earlier to which I responded to :-

Ahh definitely not consistent. Definitely not. Apart from the odd memorable very good game and a decent run at the beginning of last season, Lewis is guilty of being posted missing over long spells and in particular, big games, where he was practically invisible for those now historic terrible results we suffered past few seasons. And this is a crucial thing deciding if a player can begin to be classed as very good or not - consistency. We are setting our standards on a guy we all like and admire for other reasons other than consistent good performances and being there when we need him. Emotion over business, classic losing mentality which we are now identified with. The same can be said for Hanlon. Both great guys but lack consistency and a winning mentality and I'm convinced there are better players (look at Gray and Fontaine as examples just from last seasons quick summer purchases) available to Hibs, who should be aiming top 4 of the SPL every single season. We need a quality confident left back who can mark his man and deliver a cross into the box week in week out with the odd duff game, not the other way around.


You've mentioned Hanlon in all this but for me he was more consistent than Gray who had a poor end to the season like many others did. Who was at fault for the Falkirk goal. Why did McGeouch turn his back on Sibbald who went onto score?? Why are you not pointing out other players who have been poor at times?? Simple because Lewis is an easy target.

So his final ball isn't great but that didn't stop him for providing 8 or so assists and chipped in with goals. He's playing left back and barring the odd mistake he's played a helluva lot of better games than duff games.

He's signed for a further 2 years and it's probably odds on that he will fill the LB slot for the coming season.

Lewis has many attributes

Composure
Passing
Strength
Pace
Determination
Good in the air for someone whose not tall
Tackling

So for me an all round player.

He brings balance to the team so guess what you are wrong to say he's had more duff than good games. Maybe you should watch him play in games rather than get stuck into him.


Think you're obviously a bit out of your depth here and can't assess the true performance aspects which makes a quality winning player, so I won't go on any further. Let's all get behind all the players for the coming season. Including Lewis, obviously.

Smartie
04-06-2015, 02:47 PM
In some ways, no news/publicity about Scott Allan is good news. However, despite what he has said about wanting to stay at ER to finish the job he came for, no-one, except maybe Stubbs, really knows who he will be with next season. Fair enough in some respects but look at it from the worst case scenario. He is currently a Hibs player, he will start and almost complete pre-season with Hibs, yet, when the transfer window heats up, we might find that he is tempted/allowed to go to another club, albeit for a fee. That's bad news and late news in terms of our plans and preparation and, despite the disappointment it would cause, there's a case for sorting out the issue as soon as possible, even if that means letting him go now. Sorry for the negative slant to the SA situation amidst the present feel good climate but a late departure towards the end of the window is no good to us.

I think the downside to us getting all our business done early is that we will be a bit vulnerable when we get to the end of the transfer window. If Allan gets a good pre-season behind him and starts the season strongly then he'll be a target for other clubs. To be honest this might apply to many of our players.

This is infinitely preferable to the previous situation of all our hopes hanging on doing good business at the end of each window then spending the next few months getting them fit. Only to be consistently disappointed.

Aldo
04-06-2015, 02:49 PM
Think you're obviously a bit out of your depth here and can't assess the true performance aspects which makes a quality winning player, so I won't go on any further. Let's all get behind all the players for the coming season. Including Lewis, obviously.

One don't patronise me. Second Lewis is a true performer and has the qualities to be a quality winning player. Evidence.... MOTM performance in the 2007 CIS Cup winning Team. So unless you are able to evidence you quote of him playing more duff games than good ones I suggest your our your depth. As for getting behind the players that's what I'm doing unlike others who think there are some not good enough to wear the green.

Brightside
04-06-2015, 03:04 PM
Think you're obviously a bit out of your depth here and can't assess the true performance aspects which makes a quality winning player, so I won't go on any further. Let's all get behind all the players for the coming season. Including Lewis, obviously.

hahahaha. You are 100% correct...Cmon stubbsy get Ivanovic signed up!

Iggy Pope
04-06-2015, 03:30 PM
Think you're obviously a bit out of your depth here and can't assess the true performance aspects which makes a quality winning player, so I won't go on any further. Let's all get behind all the players for the coming season. Including Lewis, obviously.

Er,....sniff, sniff. You are Jim Traynor and I claim my fiver.

IanM
04-06-2015, 04:06 PM
If anyone had to have a stab at a goalie shortlist, what would it be?

Aldo
04-06-2015, 04:07 PM
If anyone had to have a stab at a goalie shortlist, what would it be?

Few mentioned already

Gilks
Amos
Not sure who else would be available but sure Stubbs has a couple lined up??

bingo70
04-06-2015, 04:08 PM
Few mentioned already

Gilks
Amos
Not sure who else would be available but sure Stubbs has a couple lined up??

I'd put Oxley on that list as well.

IanM
04-06-2015, 04:09 PM
Few mentioned already

Gilks
Amos
Not sure who else would be available but sure Stubbs has a couple lined up??

I thought I had seen Gilks name flying about. would happily welcome! Safe to think Oxley won't be back?

Aldo
04-06-2015, 04:10 PM
I'd put Oxley on that list as well.

Yeah we could Bingo.

Probably loads more as well.

My_Wife_Camille
04-06-2015, 04:34 PM
Kenny Millar of the Sun

@Kenny_Millar: @_steven_1875_ I have a feeling he might stay. Can't see them selling to Rangers now. Feruz would be a real test of Stubbs' man-management.

Ozyhibby
04-06-2015, 04:46 PM
The thing about loaning Feruz is that there is very little risk. There won't be a fee involved and if he start being disruptive we just send him packing back to London.

ancient hibee
04-06-2015, 05:14 PM
Regarding Allan-any offer is not going to be above £500K.As a third year in the division would cost Hibs far more than that it's a no brainer that he'll be at Easter Road this season.

Unseen work
04-06-2015, 05:15 PM
If we were to get feruz he would certainly add width and pace to our squad, him and Carmichael either side would cause a lot of trouble for the opposition

McIntosh
04-06-2015, 05:19 PM
The thing about loaning Feruz is that there is very little risk. There won't be a fee involved and if he start being disruptive we just send him packing back to London. Just not worth the potential hassle. It is funny that we talk about model professionals - Lewis then on the same page, Feruz who is anything but.

J-C
04-06-2015, 07:12 PM
If we were to get feruz he would certainly add width and pace to our squad, him and Carmichael either side would cause a lot of trouble for the opposition

Pretty sure Carmichael played the majority of the season in the no.10 slot behind the striker, he can play wide if needed like against Rangers when the winger was injured.

BOB MARLEYS DUG
04-06-2015, 07:12 PM
Vigurs released by Well. Decent winger and would be a good signing at this level?

Libby Hibby
04-06-2015, 07:17 PM
Vigurs released by Well. Decent winger and would be a good signing at this level?

No thanks, poor off field attitude

Carheenlea
04-06-2015, 07:26 PM
Think you're obviously a bit out of your depth here and can't assess the true performance aspects which makes a quality winning player, so I won't go on any further. Let's all get behind all the players for the coming season. Including Lewis, obviously.

Just out of curiosity, what is your standing in the game to enable you to make thorough and correct assessments of players, and what puts certain posters out of their depth when assessing the same subject?

Matty_Jack04
04-06-2015, 08:07 PM
Hoping the feruz rumour is just that if we're bringing players on loan we need to get hungry young players we don't need a billy big time I'd much prefer we took a chance on our own young players than give guys like him a platform, delighted for Lewis though well deserved and a little more security for
Him this time round getting 2yrs