***CC - Staying Or Going?***/NFFC Appoint Coach MERGED

[HH81]

It was breaking news on sky sports but how on earth would they get that kind of info?

[HibsMax]

Heard that, cheers although some people on here still believe that it's business as normal at ER.

C'mon. We have folk on here saying he is signing for Birmingham. We have folk saying he is signing for Notts Forest. We have folk hoping he stays with Hibs. Quite a mixture of information. Suffice it to say, he can't stay with Hibs and join two other teams.

Business is far from normal, whoever gave you that impression???

It is business as normal in terms of CC at training, etc. I think that much is true.

[bighairyfaeleith]

Heard that, cheers although some people on here still believe that it's business as normal at ER.

No we just dont make up the worst :)

[Jonnyboy]

C'mon. We have folk on here saying he is signing for Birmingham. We have folk saying he is signing for Notts Forest. We have folk hoping he stays with Hibs. Quite a mixture of information. Suffice it to say, he can't stay with Hibs and join two other teams.

Business is far from normal, whoever gave you that impression???

I should imagine Keith is referring to those posts saying CC still taking training, eating with players etc a.k.a. business as normal :wink:

[AlbertK86]

I wouldn't bet against Rod leaking this to up the price that Birmingham are willing to pay. Either that or he wants a bidding war if both are in for him.

[lapsedhibee]

So have Brimmingham offered £300k for Caldot or the cardboard cutout of Caldot? :confused:

[HibsMax]

I should imagine Keith is referring to those posts saying CC still taking training, eating with players etc a.k.a. business as normal :wink:

yeah, I updated my post but apparently you quoted me too quickly, dammit! :)

[Jonnyboy]

yeah, I updated my post but apparently you quoted me too quickly, dammit! :)

Move fast for an oldie I do :greengrin

[stevej]

On Forest forums we assumed the deal was dead once Birmingham got involved - but the SSN info has got people talking again

If we (Forest) do get him I think we will be doing you a favour long term

Like I said before if his heart is not in it up in Scotland you are getting short end of the straw and are better off without him

Hope it gets sorted quickly now for your sake and ours

I have followed you guys closely on here now and you deserve better than this

[Captain Trips]

So have Brimmingham offered £300k for Caldot or the cardboard cutout of Caldot? :confused:

£300k for Caldot, £301k for the cutout.

[Jonnyboy]

On Forest forums we assumed the deal was dead once Birmingham got involved - but the SSN info has got people talking again

If we (Forest) do get him I think we will be doing you a favour long term

Like I said before if his heart is not in it up in Scotland you are getting short end of the straw and are better off without him

Hope it gets sorted quickly now for your sake and ours

I have followed you guys closely on here now and you deserve better than this

Does this mean Hibs will be your Scottish team :greengrin

[LancashireHibby]

Whichever way this pans out, we need this circus bringing to a halt as soon as possible.

[Kaiser1962]

What did you make of his performance at the press conference then? Did that sound like a man who wanted to be there or someone who was about to clear his desk?

I know where my money lies....

As I said before he could walk onto the pitch at ER and make a big announcement. How would that do? Seem to remember it's been done before.


The reality is that 99.9% of us is for sale for a better something or other. The criteria may differ from person to person but the end result is the same.

[stevej]

It was breaking news on sky sports but how on earth would they get that kind of info?

The Forest chief executive Mark Arthur leaks things to the press when it suits him

Does it all the time

He told press Pratley wanted to sign for us when he was still under contract with Swansea and caused lots of problems for the player as a result

(and we never got him in the end)

[HibsMax]

As I said before he could walk onto the pitch at ER and make a big announcement. How would that do? Seem to remember it's been done before.


The reality is that 99.9% of us is for sale for a better something or other. The criteria may differ from person to person but the end result is the same.

I think what makes this special is that there is the emotional aspect to consider, as well as the window of opportunity. Calderwood might not be looking to get away but he might like the idea of working with his old buddy again. While we would like him to stay here with Hibs, the opportunity to be #2 to CH might not be there in 12 months time, kinda forcing his hand. It might be that he would LOVE to stay here but but by doing so he is limiting his future.

That is just another possibility to throw in the mix.

[Kaiser1962]

The Forest chief executive Mark Arthur leaks things to the press when it suits him

Does it all the time

He told press Pratley wanted to sign for us when he was still under contract with Swansea and caused lots of problems for the player as a result

(and we never got him in the end)

They all do it I think, especially agents. Although Rod tends to play with a straight bat and that infuriates us a lot of the time. Others cut corners to get things done but not Rod. Straight down the middle every time.

[AlbertK86]

ROD

We want to know what is happening. As per usual you take the fans money but refuse to keep us informed.

The PR from our club is at the worst it has been in my 40+ years being a Hibby.

A simple confirmation or denial that Birmingham and Forest have made approaches and whether we have declined their approaches is surely not asking too much.

Not often Hibs make Breaking News on Sky Sports ... Just slightly more often than Rod moves to
re-assure or update us

Stop treating the fans like S***

[RickyS]

just got tweeted by two bbc jouno's who now say its a done deal with Forest? whats going on here:taxi

[stevej]

Does this mean Hibs will be your Scottish team :greengrin

They are now !

If I understand it right you have 1,200 plus people log on this forum most days ?

That is 10% of your average home crowd ! (Unbelievable - unless I have got that wrong)

I knew Scottish fans were fanatical when Celtic once took over half our stadium in a Eufa Cup Match back in the 1980's

I watched a pissed up fan with a Forest shirt, about 65 years old, climb a stantion on the roof of our end and get right above all of us where nobody could get to him

He then ripped off his Forest shirt threw it down and had his real shirt - (a Celtic one) underneath - and he just watched the entire game sat above us all

Meanwhile about fifty Celtic fans in freezing temperatures decided to climb our floodlights and watch the match from 50 metres high with no tops on

Something tells me you lot are similar mentality

[Jonnyboy]

They are now !

If I understand it right you have 1,200 plus people log on this forum most days ?

That is 10% of your average home crowd ! (Unbelievable - unless I have got that wrong)

I knew Scottish fans were fanatical when Celtic once took over half our stadium in a Eufa Cup Match back in the 1980's

I watched a pissed up fan with a Forest shirt, about 65 years old, climb a stantion on the roof of our end and get right above all of us where nobody could get to him

He then ripped off his Forest shirt threw it down and had his real shirt - (a Celtic one) underneath - and he just watched the entire game sat above us all

Meanwhile about fifty Celtic fans in freezing temperatures decided to climb our floodlights and watch the match from 50 metres high with no tops on

Something tells me you lot are similar mentality

Aye it's a busy place is Hibs.net :greengrin

Right, first lesson for you as a new Hibby - never compare us to the great unwashed from Celtic Park :wink:

[stevej]

I think what makes this special is that there is the emotional aspect to consider, as well as the window of opportunity. Calderwood might not be looking to get away but he might like the idea of working with his old buddy again. While we would like him to stay here with Hibs, the opportunity to be #2 to CH might not be there in 12 months time, kinda forcing his hand. It might be that he would LOVE to stay here but but by doing so he is limiting his future.

That is just another possibility to throw in the mix.

There arent that many teams in the Midlands big enough to offer him reasonable wages as an assistant when you think about it

And he aint going to get the managers jobs at them either

This is his best chance to get close to home on reasonable money when you think about it

[marinello59]

ROD

We want to know what is happening. As per usual you take the fans money but refuse to keep us informed.

The PR from our club is at the worst it has been in my 40+ years being a Hibby.

A simple confirmation or denial that Birmingham and Forest have made approaches and whether we have declined their approaches is surely not asking too much

Stop treating the fans like S***

Really? I don't see much difference. The big change is that fans expect the club to behave like a 24 hour news channel giving constant updates on not very much.

[Kaiser1962]

Aye it's a busy place is Hibs.net :greengrin

Right, first lesson for you as a new Hibby - never compare us to the great unwashed from Celtic Park :wink:


:agree:

if you think you've had it tough so far............................:greengrin

[Arch Stanton]

just got tweeted by two bbc jouno's who now say its a done deal with Forest? whats going on here:taxi

Don't know - but I'd as sure like to know why they didn't tweet me as well!!

[Andy74]

On Forest forums we assumed the deal was dead once Birmingham got involved - but the SSN info has got people talking again

If we (Forest) do get him I think we will be doing you a favour long term

Like I said before if his heart is not in it up in Scotland you are getting short end of the straw and are better off without him

Hope it gets sorted quickly now for your sake and ours

I have followed you guys closely on here now and you deserve better than this

Save it.

[Hibbyradge]

ROD

We want to know what is happening. As per usual you take the fans money but refuse to keep us informed.

The PR from our club is at the worst it has been in my 40+ years being a Hibby.

A simple confirmation or denial that Birmingham and Forest have made approaches and whether we have declined their approaches is surely not asking too much.

Not often Hibs make Breaking News on Sky Sports ... Just slightly more often than Rod moves to
re-assure or update us

Stop treating the fans like S***

:tee hee:

[Kaiser1962]

Really? I don't see much difference. The big change is that fans expect the club to behave like a 24 hour news channel giving constant updates on not very much.

Some folk buy a season ticket and think they should be picking the team.

[Dinkydoo]

Heard that, cheers although some people on here still believe that it's business as normal at ER.

FFS, do you honestly believe that?

[lapsedhibee]

If I understand it right you have 1,200 plus people log on this forum most days ?

Yes but about 400,000 of those are undercover yams.

[Hibbyradge]

Some folk buy a season ticket and think they should be picking the team.

Did Colin Calderwood buy a season ticket? :confused:

What a waste of money.

[AlbertK86]

Really? I don't see much difference. The big change is that fans expect the club to behave like a 24 hour news channel giving constant updates on not very much.

So potentially losing our manager at this stage of pre-season is not very much ??!!??

Take it your quite happy that it's all just nonsense then and there is nothing for the fans to worry about.

24 hour news channel .... the way it is these days its more like a fortnightly snippet

[marinello59]

So potentially losing our manager at this stage of pre-season is not very much ??!!??

Take it your quite happy that it's all just nonsense then and there is nothing for the fans to worry about.

24 hour news channel .... the way it is these days its more like a fortnightly snippet


Aye go on , put words in to my mouth. Calm down, away and have a cup of horlicks. :greengrin

[stevej]

Calderwood prefers Forest
Former player and manager set for return to City Ground


Sky Sports sources understand that Colin Calderwood would prefer to take up a role at Nottingham Forest rather than Birmingham.


The current Hibernian boss is being pursued by both Forest and Birmingham, but a deal could be agreed for him to become assistant to Steve McClaren at the City Ground in the next 48 hours.


It was reported earlier in the week that Hibs had rejected Birmingham's request to talk to Calderwood.
New St Andrews boss Chris Hughton wants the Scot to be his No.2 after the pair worked together at Newcastle during the club's Championship (http://www.forest.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=17056&posts=358&mid=318990#) (http://www.forest.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=17056&posts=358&mid=318990#) winning campaign.


But Calderwood is understood to be in favour of a return to Forest, where he has previously been as a player and manager.


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_7012265,00.html


Read more: http://www.forest.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=17056&posts=358&mid=318990#M318990#ixzz1QnF2wf3I


(IT DOESNT ACTUALLY MENTION FOREST HAVE PERMISSION TO SPEAK TO HIM YET AND JUST BECAUSE CALDERWOOD MIGHT PREFER TO COME TO US IT DOESNT MEAN OUR CHAIRMAN WILL PAY WHAT IS NEEDED)

WHEN SOMEONE SAID THINGS WERE CLOSE I WAS EXPECTING MORE THAN THE ABOVE - JUST MORE POLITICS AND MESSING ABOUT BY THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE INVOLVED

[Speedway]

This Caldot shizzle is nearly done.

He's certainly acted like a number 2 throughout this.

[Kaiser1962]

Did Colin Calderwood buy a season ticket? :confused:

What a waste of money.

I thought Rod picked the team?

[AlbertK86]

Aye go on , put words in to my mouth. Calm down, away and have a cup of horlicks. :greengrin:faf::faf::faf:

So what were you trying to say then ?

Woops just spilt ma hot chocolate... prefer it to horlicks !!

[Hibbyradge]

I thought Rod picked the team?

Now you've really lost it, mate.

No way would Rod Petire buy a season ticket.

[burtis97]

Just said on sky sports his preferred destination is notts Forrest... Christ where on for a long Hall!!!

[BoltonHibee]

This Caldot shizzle is nearly done.

He's certainly acted like a number 2 throughout this.

Driven to it.

The next manager will also suffer and the next and the next as long as we have the current board in place.

[Jonnyboy]

Now you've really lost it, mate.

No way would Rod Petire buy a season ticket.

Exactly. His money is spent here .......... http://www.handlebarclub.co.uk/wax/morewax.shtml

:greengrin

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

On Forest forums we assumed the deal was dead once Birmingham got involved - but the SSN info has got people talking again

If we (Forest) do get him I think we will be doing you a favour long term

Like I said before if his heart is not in it up in Scotland you are getting short end of the straw and are better off without him

Hope it gets sorted quickly now for your sake and ours

I have followed you guys closely on here now and you deserve better than this

Agree with this :agree:

Not convinced with his performance so far. Doesn't seem comfortable in the spotlight and reckon he's best suited to the assistants role.

[AlbertK86]

Driven to it.

The next manager will also suffer and the next and the next as long as we have the current board in place.

:top marks:top marks:top marks

100% agreement mate:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[SloopJB]

Driven to it.

The next manager will also suffer and the next and the next as long as we have the current board in place.

I take it you mean Hibs.net message board

[BoltonHibee]

I take it you mean Hibs.net message board

What do you think?

[Hibbyradge]

Driven to it.

The next manager will also suffer and the next and the next as long as we have the current board in place.


:top marks:top marks:top marks

100% agreement mate:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

What's changed?

They sacked the last 3 managers.

Driven to it, I believe.

[BoltonHibee]

What's changed?

They sacked the last 3 managers.

Driven to it, I believe.

Did we?

[Kaiser1962]

Exactly. His money is spent here .......... http://www.handlebarclub.co.uk/wax/morewax.shtml

:greengrin


Does STF not give him a lift over?

[R'Albin]

So he is going to Forest now:confused:

WTF is going on!!??

[SteveHFC]

Let's just get this over with and look for a new manager

[Arch Stanton]

Driven to it.

The next manager will also suffer and the next and the next as long as we have the current board in place.

OK good, now were gettin someplace - he had a chauffeur who drove him but it wasn't comfortable coz he was sittin on a board. Funny how things just fall into place - it all makes sense now.

[Mibbes Aye]

Is it possible that Petrie has two cardboard cut-outs, one to get compo from Forest and one for City?

It's like The Usual Suspects - the greatest trick Petrie ever pulled was convincing the world Colin Calderwood existed :agree:

[Captain Trips]

If we still have Alan O'brian's motorbike this could be sorted in hours.

[SMAXXA]

Just hurry up and get shot of this joker, agree a fee and be done with it! To be fair if we get some decent compo for him its one of the best results we have had since he arrived. Was all for backing him despite his indifferent start to life at Hibs but im actually happier seeing him go than I would be him staying.

[Ed De Gramo]

This long drawn out saga is nearing the end.....

[KeithTheHibby]

Is it possible that Petrie has two cardboard cut-outs, one to get compo from Forest and one for City?

It's like The Usual Suspects - the greatest trick Petrie ever pulled was convincing the world Colin Calderwood existed :agree:

:thumbsup::faf::faf:

[Andy74]

Just hurry up and get shot of this joker, agree a fee and be done with it! To be fair if we get some decent compo for him its one of the best results we have had since he arrived. Was all for backing him despite his indifferent start to life at Hibs but im actually happier seeing him go than I would be him staying.

Agree. Now for the next joker!

[tanfield]

you would think the board might have made moves to look at a replacement or is that asking too much??

[Captain Trips]

Mother May I with this deal me thinks.

[Andy74]

you would think the board might have made moves to look at a replacement or is that asking too much??

I would expect they have been.

[MyJo]

Im so f***ing bored

[R'Albin]

you would think the board might have made moves to look at a replacement or is that asking too much??

I'm sure they will be if they think they are losing CC:agree:

Edit agree with above poster!^^

Edit 2- Apparently Calderwood's preffered destination is Forest according to "Sky Sources"

[Hamish]

This long drawn out saga is nearing the end.....

Wouldn't bet on it. Still think Speedway is right and this might reach 100 pages.

[hibeeleicester]

I think this is what has happened

Petrie to CC : "You can go only if you help us get the most amount of money for you"

Petrie to Brum: "300k..... BOLT"

Petrie to CC: "Say you really want to go to Forest...ta"

CC: "I would love to go to forest"

PETRIE to Forest: "Brum bid 300k, 500k and he's yours."

Forest to Petrie: "We will get back to you"

Petrie to Brum: "Forest have just bid 500k, can you beat it?"

Brum to Petrie: "We will get back to you"



Repeat until one club pulls out. :greengrin

[hibeeleicester]

I think this is what has happened

Petrie to CC : "You can go only if you help us get the most amount of money for you"

Petrie to Brum: "300k..... BOLT"

Petrie to CC: "Say you really want to go to Forest...ta"

CC: "I would love to go to forest"

PETRIE to Forest: "Brum bid 300k, 500k and he's yours."

Forest to Petrie: "We will get back to you"

Petrie to Brum: "Forest have just bid 500k, can you beat it?"

Brum to Petrie: "We will get back to you"



Repeat until one club pulls out. :greengrin

PS. Although this is effective, it is a lengthy way of doing it!

[new malkyhib]

...because i'm baffled as to how he did?

Can anyone hazard a guess, if that last interview he gave recently is any barometer, how could Petrie possibly justify giving him the job?

[One Day Soon]

Waiting for Godot my erchie.

This is more like Twin Peaks. Incomprehensible plot, goes on forever and no clear ending.

Apologies to Notts Fan for sniffing at him early on. He clearly had something, though at this stage ****** knows what. Maybe CC can do a job share between Forrest and Brum?

[Manxhibs]

I'm all for maximising the money we make from this long drawn out process but there's only so much I can put up with. Our season starts in 3 weeks and we are far from ready, I am deeply concerned.

[Hamish]

Sure any Forest fans will correct me, but I would have thought in their financial situation that there is no way Forest would pay anything like £300,000 or upwards in compensation

[Captain Trips]

I now reckon that Petrie, Calderwood, Hughton and McLaren are doing the conga while listening to Gang Bang by Black Lace inbetween looking at this whole thread and playing good guy/wa+k.

[truehibernian]

I now reckon that Petrie, Calderwood, Hughton and McLaren are doing the conga while listening to Gang Bang by Black Lace inbetween looking at this whole thread and playing good guy/wa+k.

You missed out the bit wWith Calderwood being in a quandry as to whether it's gonna be the curly wurly or the twix..........

And note to silverhibee.....good choice my man......frys turkish delights always win in a 'battle of the sweets' :not worth

[Hibby D]

Wouldn't bet on it. Still think Speedway is right and this might reach 100 pages.


I've my preferences set to 100 posts per page - so as far as I'm concerned this thread is only 23 and a bit pages long :greengrin

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Im so f***ing bored

I was just going to post the exact same thing.......i say ***** him

[Aubenas]

THIS JUST IN: PETRIE SAYS HE WILL LET CC GO TO WHOEVER WILL FINISH THE EDINBURGH TRAMS FIRST.:aok:

[silverhibee]

You missed out the bit wWith Calderwood being in a quandry as to whether it's gonna be the curly wurly or the twix..........

And note to silverhibee.....good choice my man......frys turkish delights always win in a 'battle of the sweets' :not worth


:greengrin :aok:

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I've my preferences set to 100 posts per page - so as far as I'm concerned this thread is only 23 and a bit pages long :greengrin

:agree:

Real :hnet: folk ken whits gaun on :wink:

[Fantic]

Whatever happens I blame Rod Petrie!

[RickyS]

:agree:

Real :hnet: folk ken whits gaun on :wink:

:not worth

[GreenCastle]

THIS JUST IN: PETRIE SAYS HE WILL LET CC GO TO WHOEVER WILL FINISH THE EDINBURGH TRAMS FIRST.:aok:

:greengrin

This surely must be concluded by the end of Friday ?!!

[tooley]

Whatever happens I blame Rod Petrie!

:agree:

[Franck Stanton]

Just a wee question folks, - IF CC still in charge on Sat when we play Berwick what sort of reception do you think he will recieve from the Hibbys that go ? I will be there and am just wondering other supporters thoughts about him.

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Just a wee question folks, - IF CC still in charge on Sat when we play Berwick what sort of reception do you think he will recieve from the Hibbys that go ? I will be there and am just wondering other supporters thoughts about him.

I wasn't planning on going but if CC is still in charge I might go down and boo him :devil:

[Jonnyboy]

I wasn't planning on going but if CC is still in charge I might go down and boo him :devil:

:greengrin

[Thigh ar la]

the guy has to go now, he has made his bed pure and simple. He makes a mockery of Hibernian and does anyone give these people a briefing of what it means to be a Hibs manager?. He has no future here whatsoever! He reeks of greed and I cant wait to see the back of him!

[Springbank]

:greengrin

can u post a grainy picture of you booing him though?

[Jonnyboy]

can u post a grainy picture of you booing him though?

Sure can - I'll be standing next to the mysterious grey haired guy :greengrin

[snooky]

Seemingly holding out for the release clause of £500K
Anyway you should be packing mate. Time you're back your hols we'll have had another 900 pages on this thread and still no announcement from the board!!

Enjoy

A-ha, the old CC Rider :wink:

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Sure can - I'll be standing next to the mysterious grey haired guy :greengrin

Somebody asked me today if I was naturally bald. I said no it's a ****** wig :greengrin

[Bad Martini]

Ah reserve ma right to say he's done **** all and doesnt look like he'll ever DO **** all in the future thus ah couldnae gie a ratts ass if he goes or stays and if given the choice, I wouldnae have given him the joab in the first place :aok::na na::greengrin

ENDOF :thumbsup:

[Jonnyboy]

Somebody asked me today if I was naturally bald. I said no it's a ****** wig :greengrin

:shocked:

Certainly had me fooled :greengrin

[Bad Martini]

Somebody asked me today if I was naturally bald. I said no it's a ****** wig :greengrin

A baldy gixxer rider. A bet ye have a fully blacked oot visor AND a full blue n white suit wi a hump, sidi boots AND gloves JUST to nick oot and get a copy of the news :greengrin :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Hair is overrated anyway. Better to be bald and smart than hairy and thick. Reference S Presley for a case in point on the hairy n thick argument :greengrin

[matty_f]

If he does go to Forest, I really do hope Hibs go to town on Forest for tapping him up and speaking to him without our permission. :agree:

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A baldy gixxer rider. A bet ye have a fully blacked oot visor AND a full blue n white suit wi a hump, sidi boots AND gloves JUST to nick oot and get a copy of the news :greengrin :thumbsup: :thumbsup:



:thumbsup::top marks are we that predictable :greengrin

7460

[Bad Martini]

top marks are we that predictable :greengrin

7460

:thumbsup:

Nice one mate. I also forgot to mention the knee sliders, obligatory tail tidy and non-standard (legal? private road offisur) :greengrin cans.

For added growl, why not invest in a "REAL" (http://www.bikez.com/pictures/suzuki/2002/20134_0_1_2_gsx%201400_Submitted%20by%20anonymous% 20user..jpg) mans bike :greengrin. This gives you hair back (on yer chest) and instantly says to all who mess "my engines bigger than yours, my torque will smash whatever the **** you have AND I have more balls than a Mitre factory" ... apparently :not worth :greengrin :agree: (no plastic in sight and allegedly the choice of the discerning hooligan who wishes to kick some ass without ever leaving 6th gear in the lower elms of between 2000-9000rpm :thumbsup:

That said, yer thou isnt too shabby either mind :aok:

[matty_f]

A baldy gixxer rider. A bet ye have a fully blacked oot visor AND a full blue n white suit wi a hump, sidi boots AND gloves JUST to nick oot and get a copy of the news
Hair is overrated anyway. Better to be bald and smart than hairy and thick. Reference S Presley for a case in point on the hairy n thick argument :greengrin


are we that predictable

7460




Nice one mate. I also forgot to mention the knee sliders, obligatory tail tidy and non-standard (legal? private road offisur) :greengrin cans.

For added growl, why not invest in a "REAL" (http://www.bikez.com/pictures/suzuki/2002/20134_0_1_2_gsx%201400_Submitted%20by%20anonymous% 20user..jpg) mans bike :greengrin. This gives you hair back (on yer chest) and instantly says to all who mess "my engines bigger than yours, my torque will smash whatever the **** you have AND I have more balls than a Mitre factory" ... apparently :not worth :greengrin :agree: (no plastic in sight and allegedly the choice of the discerning hooligan who wishes to kick some ass without ever leaving 6th gear in the lower elms of between 2000-9000rpm :thumbsup:

That said, yer thou isnt too shabby either mind :aok:

Have to say, I did not expect the thread to take this direction!:greengrin

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Have to say, I did not expect the thread to take this direction!:greengrin

:greengrin

It's all getting a bit boring Matty. Anytime you want a pillion ride gimme a shout. Makes the car feel very slow :wink:

[Bad Martini]

Have to say, I did not expect the thread to take this direction!:greengrin

Sorry mate.

...if we can aw get back to the business of ripping Calderwood, his pishy record so far, his lack of skill in doing anything to change our plight and his ***** league position and indeed, his inability to say:

1) IM GOING
2) IM STAYING
(much like the frickin Clash with less style)

..and all will be braw again :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Sorted mate.

PS is he still here? :greengrin

[Bad Martini]

:greengrin
Makes the car feel very slow :wink:

:agree:

...theres no many can challenge that statement and I've seen nae veyrons roond these parts thus, they are all slow. :thumbsup:

[The Harp]

THIS JUST IN: PETRIE SAYS HE WILL LET CC GO TO WHOEVER WILL FINISH THE EDINBURGH TRAMS FIRST.:aok:

Was just about to post something similar. Compared to this 'will he/won't he/ and if he does will it be Forest/Birmingham' the tram project is beginning to look well organised.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Removed]

...if we can aw get back to the business of ripping Calderwood, his pishy record so far, his lack of skill in doing anything to change our plight and his ***** league position

:agree:


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HHb5OI-hFoA/Rav6IlJKs0I/AAAAAAAAAAw/OXlDfngtuXU/s400/booo.jpg

[Bad Martini]

Was just about to post something similar. Compared to this 'will he/won't he/ and if he does will it be Forest/Birmingham' the tram project is beginning to look well organised.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

...I dare ye to talk to an Edinburgh taxi driver aboot the tram project being well organised.

For this, you will need:

1) set of ear-plugs
2) ability to unlock a locked door from inside for when he does eventually brek thru the plugs
3) ability to heap out a moving vehicle and survive (for which, you do not have)
4) sadistic streak to invoke said chat in the first place :greengrin

Suggestion::devil:
1) Find a cabby...
2) Ask him to take you 2 streets away
3) Hop out, tell him the tram project has just been extended for a FURTHER 28 months
4) Run like ****, laughing your heid off, safe in the knowledge his next punter will leave with a migraine and a serious dose of tramasitis :greengrin

Just need a way of pissing of cyclists now and Im sorted :not worth

MON THE TRAMS :greengrin

[Bad Martini]

:agree:


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HHb5OI-hFoA/Rav6IlJKs0I/AAAAAAAAAAw/OXlDfngtuXU/s400/booo.jpg

That's enuff of that. There's a cheeseboard for that kind of spraf. Lets get back to talking aboot bikes, visors and big **** off cans which should only be legal on the track....ah, wait a minu....:greengrin

:thumbsup:

[Bad Martini]

Taxi for CC

Fair swap I'd say.

Ma money's on the taxi getting tactics right and finishing higher than 10th, 11 points of the bottom of the league, losing to utter dross AND doing it far more quickly than the 9 months Calderwood had and done precisely the square root of ZEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOO!

>>> :taxi:taxi <<<< Genius :greengrin

[The Harp]

[QUOTE=Bad Martini;2846345]...I dare ye to talk to an Edinburgh taxi driver aboot the tram project being well organised.

I'm meeting one for a drink on Sat. afternoon. Should I pre book a place at A&E? :wink:

[Removed]

That's enuff of that. There's a cheeseboard for that kind of spraf. Lets get back to talking aboot bikes, visors and big **** off cans which should only be legal on the track....ah, wait a minu....:greengrin

:thumbsup:

Oi, that Yoshi has an E mark and is fully road legal................with the baffle in :wink:

I am down to a 7x5 plate now though after my legal one fell of at 70 officer :greengrin

[Bad Martini]

[QUOTE=Bad Martini;2846345]...I dare ye to talk to an Edinburgh taxi driver aboot the tram project being well organised.

I'm meeting one for a drink on Sat. afternoon. Should I pre book a place at A&E? :wink:

:greengrin

If you do, you'll get taken just as the first tram rolls doon Princes Street, heading for the airport....ah wait, :greengrin

Ach, ferk it. Just meet and tell him he took the long way. It'll achieve the same thing (mind and ask if he's been busy and what time he finishes...they always enjoy those 2 questions from 348593475347 drunks every night :aok: :greengrin

[Bad Martini]

Oi, that Yoshi has an E mark and is fully road legal................with the baffle in :wink:

I am down to a 7x5 plate now though after my legal fell of at 70 officer :greengrin

Yep. Much like some alleged Scorpion cans I seen on some 14's. Ahem.

7x5 ! Bichrist, superman himself would toil to read that.

Actually, it COULD be legal provided the correct space exists between all the letters and its not letterbox (which it isny). The legal stipulation is not the plastic size - its the letter size and spacing. Sorted. Unless you used comic sans and put something derogatory to the constabulary in that wee space under the digits, which should (apparently) carry a wee code and use tiny font to show legality.

All alleged, and hypothetically, ye understand :greengrin

...Im off to find that "private road" ah hear aboot. It's 394348 miles long and allegedly permits folks to reach everything from 160-189mph, depending on year, model and balls. :thumbsup:

[SmokieJoe]

Possibly the contract cancellation clause value?

[Peevemor]

I like CC's interviews - including the latest one.

He talks less BS than Yogi and more sense than Mixu.

[Bad Martini]

...because i'm baffled as to how he did?

Can anyone hazard a guess, if that last interview he gave recently is any barometer, how could Petrie possibly justify giving him the job?

I'll deal wi you nicking my avatar efter...:greengrin

To the matter in hand; how did he get the joab?

It went like this:

Rod - "Mr Calderwood...please tell me, in nae mair than 500 words why I should give you this joab given your lack of experience in managing a top flight Scottish Club and yer lack of guile in the transfer market and given in fact, nobody really thinks you are 'the man' for the joab?"

Calderwood - "I'll not cost ye that much money and I'll probably no start any big riots or tell the fans 'only fitba men' ken what ah mean"

Rod - "Vintage. When can ye start?"

...or something like that.:aok:

[Iain G]

I like CC's interviews - including the latest one.

He talks less BS than Yogi and more sense than Mixu.

Yup, I generally think he comes across quite thoughtfully and usually quite precise about what he is talking about and I'd rather listen to him than that big slaver Yogi anyday. He comes across as a manager who would rather be doing his job than having to talk about it. :agree:

I wish we would tone down the Calderwood witch hunt now, it's all getting rather tedious...

[NYHibby]

Hibs reject £300k offer from Birmingham

http://sport.scotsman.com/hibernianfc/Hibs-reject-300k-offer-for.6794049.jp

[stevej]

Sure any Forest fans will correct me, but I would have thought in their financial situation that there is no way Forest would pay anything like £300,000 or upwards in compensation

If we do Billy Davies has every right to be p*ssed off (he was always complaining about lack of backing from the board)

We spent £400k on incoming transfers last season and that was only when our forward Blackstock got injured and we needed cover (Tudgay)

But then again cant imagine that McClaren would have taken the job unless he was getting some kind of financial backing

But like I say the £300k plus compensation for an assistant manager is more or less our entire transfer spend last season

[stevej]

A big complaint from Forest fans about Calderwood potentially coming back is that we actually had to pay him compensation to leave us when we sacked him

And now potentially the same chairman may be prepared to pay even more compensation to bring him back

When you think about like that you can understand why most of your fans and most of ours always thought this was a wind up at the beginning

(**** me this forum gets better by the day - I just won an apple ipad for being the 1000th visitor online today !)

Dont get that on Forest forums !

[Boris]

He was available, cheep & didn't have the balls to argue when he was told he couldn't bring in his own choice of assistant manager.

[500miles]

Management experience and success from League 2 to the Championship.
Success as a coach.
Fairly experienced.
Well spoken.
Likeable character - certainly seems well thought of and respected by the players.
No former Hibs connections which, for some reason, the fans seemed to think was crucial.
A knowledge of lower league players, and possible hidden gems in the transfer market.

He ticks a lot of boxes. However, if there are forces (career ambitions and priorities, as well as family issues - let's not forget a move closer to his family may well be a motivating factor) at work beyond the measure of an interview, sorry guys, but tough, that's life, that's modern football. Deal with it. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

[Lucius Apuleius]

I like CC's interviews - including the latest one.

He talks less BS than Yogi and more sense than Mixu.

:agree: This


Yup, I generally think he comes across quite thoughtfully and usually quite precise about what he is talking about and I'd rather listen to him than that big slaver Yogi anyday. He comes across as a manager who would rather be doing his job than having to talk about it. :agree:

I wish we would tone down the Calderwood witch hunt now, it's all getting rather tedious...

Definitely this :agree:


He was available, cheep & didn't have the balls to argue when he was told he couldn't bring in his own choice of assistant manager.

Budgie was cheep, CC wasn't


Management experience and success from League 2 to the Championship.
Success as a coach.
Fairly experienced.
Well spoken.
Likeable character - certainly seems well thought of and respected by the players.
No former Hibs connections which, for some reason, the fans seemed to think was crucial.
A knowledge of lower league players, and possible hidden gems in the transfer market.

He ticks a lot of boxes. However, if there are forces (career ambitions and priorities, as well as family issues - let's not forget a move closer to his family may well be a motivating factor) at work beyond the measure of an interview, sorry guys, but tough, that's life, that's modern football. Deal with it. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

And also this.:agree:

[ecky1875]

If u believe the sun hibs ave been offered 300 000 for calderwood, don't think we will get that much but still think hibs should take it and move on as time is running out ti get someone in for the new season?:bye:

[Kaiser1962]

He was available, cheep & didn't have the balls to argue when he was told he couldn't bring in his own choice of assistant manager.

Why dont you tell him that when there's just the two of you?

Thought not........

[offshorehibby]

This seems to heading for a lets slag the f--- out of CC thread. For a start,


He was available, cheep & didn't have the balls to argue when he was told he couldn't bring in his own choice of assistant manager.

He never came cheap, a small fee was paid to get him and certainly wasn't available


Management experience and success from League 2 to the Championship.
Success as a coach.
Fairly experienced.
Well spoken.
Likeable character - certainly seems well thought of and respected by the players.
No former Hibs connections which, for some reason, the fans seemed to think was crucial.
A knowledge of lower league players, and possible hidden gems in the transfer market.

He ticks a lot of boxes. However, if there are forces (career ambitions and priorities, as well as family issues - let's not forget a move closer to his family may well be a motivating factor) at work beyond the measure of an interview, sorry guys, but tough, that's life, that's modern football. Deal with it. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

I think this is exactly how he was seen. I also think if his heart was in it and with another couple of signings he would have had a good season.

a lot of managers when they first go to a club, like players don't always have the best of times till they bed in. Hibs supporters tend to want miracles from day one.

I would like CC to stay and complete what he has started but the fact he still has not come out and said no i want to stay at Hibs and build something special makes me think he'll be away. So i'd rather he left pronto so the new man can get in.

[Septimus]

Let him go for the money offered with a proviso that, should Birmingham be promoted next season, a substantial further payment will be made.

This would have the effect of stimulating my interest in football south of the border as I fear that we are in for another miserable year north of it.

[EasterRoad4Ever]

Management experience and success from League 2 to the Championship.
Success as a coach.
Fairly experienced.
Well spoken.
Likeable character - certainly seems well thought of and respected by the players.
No former Hibs connections which, for some reason, the fans seemed to think was crucial.
A knowledge of lower league players, and possible hidden gems in the transfer market.

He ticks a lot of boxes. However, if there are forces (career ambitions and priorities, as well as family issues - let's not forget a move closer to his family may well be a motivating factor) at work beyond the measure of an interview, sorry guys, but tough, that's life, that's modern football. Deal with it. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

Had CC been an early, roaring success at ER and clearly destined for bigger things then could accept that - that's football and life. Also, he knew 9 months ago what he was letting his family in for so should have gone into it with his eyes wide open. I'm sure RP/CC would have discussed this as part of the interview/discussions.

However, fact is that CC had a dreadful record and inauspicious 9 months and has shown NO ambitions whatsoever in going back to being a No2 in England. A curious move that shows he was never the right man for the Hibs job. CC needs to take responsibility for that, but it also reflects poorly on Petrie's recruitment (again).

Hibs messed up with allowing so many players contracts to run out at the same time. And they have messed up in their management recruitment (again). As a Board, their performance is shabby to say the least.

[Hibbyradge]

I'm surprised there haven't been any other posts on this subject.

I'd have expected another thread about it by now.

[Lucius Apuleius]

Had CC been an early, roaring success at ER and clearly destined for bigger things then could accept that - that's football and life. Also, he knew 9 months ago what he was letting his family in for so should have gone into it with his eyes wide open. I'm sure RP/CC would have discussed this as part of the interview/discussions.

However, fact is that CC had a dreadful record and inauspicious 9 months and has shown NO ambitions whatsoever in going back to being a No2 in England. A curious move that shows he was never the right man for the Hibs job. CC needs to take responsibility for that, but it also reflects poorly on Petrie's recruitment (again).

Hibs messed up with allowing so many players contracts to run out at the same time. And they have messed up in their management recruitment (again). As a Board, their performance is shabby to say the least.

The last three (apart from CC that is) seemed to me to meet with universal acclaim on here. To me the board is the easy fall guy.

[ecky1875]

Wid just like ti see things get sorted swift, no players are going ti sign when u don't even know who the manager will be! :confused:
still think we need at least 3 or 4 players at least....

[Lucius Apuleius]

I'm surprised there haven't been any other posts on this subject.

I'd have expected another thread about it by now.

:agree: Absolutely correct. I am totally gobsmacked this has not been discussed at all. Lets be honest it has been happening for long enough. You would have thought someone would have cared enough to start one.

OR

Aye, ken. Shid ae bin stairted bi noo. caany unerstan whiy no like.

[Danderhall Hibs]

He was available, cheep & didn't have the balls to argue when he was told he couldn't bring in his own choice of assistant manager.

He was in a job and cost us money – that kind of rules out your 1st two points! Presumably he spoke up about the assistant manager later and that’s why he left.

Making all 3 points nonsense.

[nonshinyfinish]

More breaking news on SSN:


BREAKING NEWS...JOE BIDEN TO STEP DOWN DUE TO ILL HEALTH...OBAMA WAITING FOR CALDOT AS NEW NO. 2...

My sources understand that compo is the remaining stumbling block - Rod is holding out for $300bn and Alaska.

[Baker9]

...because i'm baffled as to how he did?

Can anyone hazard a guess, if that last interview he gave recently is any barometer, how could Petrie possibly justify giving him the job?

I suspect that his original interview for the job went along these lines:

Petrie: What will you bring to Hibs?
CC: You have tried a succession of managers each bringing change and staying only for a short time. You have a good Youth programme. In my 3 years I will take the best of your youth players, add other quality young players and mix in a few experienced players. I will not perform any short term magic, but in 3 years time I expect to win you the cup and perhaps even the league.

He is a good man and I would have hired him. If he goes I for one will be bitterly disappointed.

[bighairyfaeleith]

Had CC been an early, roaring success at ER and clearly destined for bigger things then could accept that - that's football and life. Also, he knew 9 months ago what he was letting his family in for so should have gone into it with his eyes wide open. I'm sure RP/CC would have discussed this as part of the interview/discussions.

However, fact is that CC had a dreadful record and inauspicious 9 months and has shown NO ambitions whatsoever in going back to being a No2 in England. A curious move that shows he was never the right man for the Hibs job. CC needs to take responsibility for that, but it also reflects poorly on Petrie's recruitment (again).

Hibs messed up with allowing so many players contracts to run out at the same time. And they have messed up in their management recruitment (again). As a Board, their performance is shabby to say the least.


Being able to get rid of so many crap players in one go is a brilliant move and lets us rebuild, if our manager moves on then thats just one of those things and something we will cope with, hardly the end of the world.

[dangermouse]

Although it may be difficult for him from some quarters, but I really hope he stays and he will receive my support!

All of this is p!sh, needs sorted quickly one way or another. However, slating the man on here isn't so good and I think we are in a win win situation no matter the outcome of events waiting to transpire.

:agree: Why are people so keen to hound him out the door when nobody knows exactly what has been said by any party. :confused:

If he had wanted to go, I reckon he would be away by now. The BBC interview had large chunks out of it but he did say something along the lines of nothing excites him more than his current job. Sounds like he's happy here to me.

[Beefster]

:agree: Why are people so keen to hound him out the door when nobody knows exactly what has been said by any party. :confused:

If he had wanted to go, I reckon he would be away by now. The BBC interview had large chunks out of it but he did say something along the lines of nothing excites him more than his current job. Sounds like he's happy here to me.

I think he's better off going after last week's interview but the way some posters have enthusiastically used this situation as an opportunity to start attacking everything about the guy is out of order.

[Torto7062]

The Tasche is playing hardball to let C.C go,


maybe the new manager will cost more to bring in to the club, if so I applaud him for
holding out for more.
Why should we be out of pocket.

GGTTH

[HibeeMG]

:rolleyes::yawn:

Already being discussed on the relevant thread.

[Kaiser1962]

I think he's better off going after last week's interview but the way some posters have enthusiastically used this situation as an opportunity to start attacking everything about the guy is out of order.

:agree:

sad but true

[MrSmith]

I think he's better off going after last week's interview but the way some posters have enthusiastically used this situation as an opportunity to start attacking everything about the guy is out of order.

Couldn't agree more!

If some maybe thought about this logically instead of reacting emotionally or defensively; It is fairly clear family stuff is in the mix as well as him being uncomfortable as manager and that's ok! thanks for your help Colin and getting us some decent players to build a team round. Good luck.

[dangermouse]

Couldn't agree more!

If some maybe thought about this logically instead of reacting emotionally or defensively; It is fairly clear family stuff is in the mix as well as him being uncomfortable as manager and that's ok! thanks for your help Colin and getting us some decent players to build a team round. Good luck.

But I am thinking logically and I see no evidence to hound him out the club. :confused:

He has brought in a number of players who should improve the team (Thornhill, GOC, Sproule, O'Hanlon) along with others that may improve the team (Scott, Palsson,Sodje). Before all this came about he was (probably still is) looking to boost the squad when the English teams come back from holiday (i.e. today) and he has moved on a number of under performing players.

He has a clear idea where how he wants the team to develop and progress including using some of the talented youngsters.

Why would we want to get rid of him 3 weeks before the start of the season with no obvious replacement identified leaving a new appointment with little time to prepare for the season.

If all these alleged bids are true and Petrie is knocking them back then good on him as right now getting rid of CC is the last thing we should be doing.

[AlbertK86]

<img src="images/smilies/agree.gif" border="0" alt="" title="agree" smilieid="14" class="inlineimg" /> Why are people so keen to hound him out the door when nobody knows exactly what has been said by any party. <img src="images/smilies/confused2.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Confused" smilieid="82" class="inlineimg" /><br />
<br />
If he had wanted to go, I reckon he would be away by now. The BBC interview had large chunks out of it but he did say something along the lines of nothing excites him more than his current job. Sounds like he's happy here to me.<br />

Bbc will have edited the interview to suit their story. this is common practice as we should all be aware
If he goes he goes but lets wait and see ..... Don't know how long that will b though

[marinello59]

I think he's better off going after last week's interview but the way some posters have enthusiastically used this situation as an opportunity to start attacking everything about the guy is out of order.

:agree:

[PercyHibs]

Couldn't agree more!

If some maybe thought about this logically instead of reacting emotionally or defensively; It is fairly clear family stuff is in the mix as well as him being uncomfortable as manager and that's ok! thanks for your help Colin and getting us some decent players to build a team round. Good luck.

I am thinking about it logically. Plenty people work away from their family and don't like it but get on with it. He knew exactly what he was getting into when he took the job and if he didn't then found he didn't like staying away from his family he could hve left at the end of last season.

I'm just looking for a bit of loyalty instead of leaving us in the lurch at the start of a new season. He left the premiership to come to us so I don't believe this step up nonsense.

[matty_f]

I think he's better off going after last week's interview but the way some posters have enthusiastically used this situation as an opportunity to start attacking everything about the guy is out of order.

Spot on beefster. Couldn't agree more.

[happiehibbie]

I think it is time for Mr Petrie to tell CC his time is up we need to move forward and prepare for the new season only weeks away. I belive that the players will be wondering what is going on commitment to the CC must be under question.

For all our sakes lets get a new Manager one who wants to be here.

If CC wants the Hibs job then get a press confrence and tell us this I would like him to read his own statement on the hibs web site for ticket sales.

[scoopyboy]

I think it is time for Mr Petrie to tell CC his time is up we need to move forward and prepare for the new season only weeks away. I belive that the players will be wondering what is going on commitment to the CC must be under question.

For all our sakes lets get a new Manager one who wants to be here.

If CC wants the Hibs job then get a press confrence and tell us this I would like him to read his own statement on the hibs web site for ticket sales.

One word will rule out the statement in your title - compensation.

[dangermouse]

I think it is time for Mr Petrie to tell CC his time is up we need to move forward and prepare for the new season only weeks away. I belive that the players will be wondering what is going on commitment to the CC must be under question.

For all our sakes lets get a new Manager one who wants to be here.

If CC wants the Hibs job then get a press confrence and tell us this I would like him to read his own statement on the hibs web site for ticket sales.

But Petrie wants him to stay as he issued a statement saying that any approach for CC would be unwelcomed.

[Purehibee_MYB]

Dunno if this has been posted but I'm not trawling through the pages to find out...

Next 48 hours apparently

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11781_7012265,00.html

[Saorsa]

Dunno if this has been posted but I'm not trawling through the pages to find out...

Next 48 hours apparently

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11781_7012265,00.htmloh good, just another 2 days tae go then :rolleyes: :yawn:

[Liberal Hibby]

I've my preferences set to 100 posts per page - so as far as I'm concerned this thread is only 23 and a bit pages long :greengrin

I suspect even at 100 posts per page we'll get to 100 pages...

[JustSimplyHibs]

Dunno if this has been posted but I'm not trawling through the pages to find out...

Next 48 hours apparently

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11781_7012265,00.html


Just pure and utter speculation, they dont know just like any of us on this board....i personally dont think he is off and in fact i think and hope he goes on to be one of the most succesful managers.

I do know he is still looking for a 5 bedroomed house within the lothians.

[Ritchie]

i dont have the time to check the last 10 pages... can someone please summarise WTF is going on!?

[micksoo]

i dont have the time to check the last 10 pages... can someone please summarise WTF is going on!?

nothing

[IWasThere2016]

I think he's better off going after last week's interview but the way some posters have enthusiastically used this situation as an opportunity to start attacking everything about the guy is out of order.

:top marks

[danhibees1875]

i dont have the time to check the last 10 pages... can someone please summarise WTF is going on!?

Exactly, unless you check every hour it's impossible to keep up!

CC is and isn't at Hibs, Birmingham and Notts Forest I believe :agree:

[persevere1875]

Are we due a weekly press conference today does anyone know, if so any idea who will be attending at what time its due at ??

[GreenCastle]

If anyone doesn't know we have a game tomorrow against Berwick.

Who has been taking training at East Mains the last few days ?

I am sure if CC shows at Berwick tomorrow it will be quite an obvious statement to where he will be next season :agree:

[PeterboroHibee]

If anyone doesn't know we have a game tomorrow against Berwick.

Who has been taking training at East Mains the last few days ?

I am sure if CC shows at Berwick tomorrow it will be quite an obvious statement to where he will be next season :agree:

Why? What if compensation or terms havent been agreed by tomorrow? He is still Hibs manager at the moment and should continue with his duties until he does possibly move.

[Hibee Daz]

If anyone doesn't know we have a game tomorrow against Berwick.

Who has been taking training at East Mains the last few days ?

I am sure if CC shows at Berwick tomorrow it will be quite an obvious statement to where he will be next season :agree:

I wouldn't necessarily say that, It could just mean that CC is doing the job he's employed to do until Hibs and his prospective employers reach a settlement!

[Hibee Daz]

Why? What if compensation or terms havent been agreed by tomorrow? He is still Hibs manager at the moment and should continue with his duties until he does possibly move.

:agree: You just beat me too it.

[GreenCastle]

Why? What if compensation or terms havent been agreed by tomorrow? He is still Hibs manager at the moment and should continue with his duties until he does possibly move.

I would expect so also :agree:

Either way it needs to be sorted ASAP as 3 weeks before a season starts is shocking preparation.

CC / club should come out today that he is staying or just tell us he's leaving as there have been too many stories in the press last few days.

[Captain Trips]

Why? What if compensation or terms havent been agreed by tomorrow? He is still Hibs manager at the moment and should continue with his duties until he does possibly move.

His duties would also involve buying players what if he has the chance to bring in a player whom he thinks will do a job but is at the limit that we can afford, the player is affordable but expensive for us, is he given the money?

Would you give him any more of the budget if we need players and some are good but need signed asap as there is other interest?

If no to any of this the job is untenable.

[PeterboroHibee]

I would expect so also :agree:

Either way it needs to be sorted ASAP as 3 weeks before a season starts is shocking preparation.

CC / club should come out today that he is staying or just tell us he's leaving as there have been too many stories in the press last few days.

I agree it needs sorted, the whole thing is really dragging, but what can we do? If he wants away then the interested clubs are going to have to stump up whatever Hibs are after in compensation. It puts us in a difficult situation in terms of signings etc as there is so much uncertainty over the future of CC.

Im not sure releasing either of those statements would be wise either, while it is frustrating that we dont know where we stand, if the board release something and the total opposite happens Im sure alot of fans would be fairly unhappy.

[PeterboroHibee]

His duties would also involve buying players what if he has the chance to bring in a player whom he thinks will do a job but is at the limit that we can afford, the player is affordable but expensive for us, is he given the money?

Would you give him any more of the budget if we need players and some are good but need signed asap as there is other interest?

If no to any of this the job is untenable.

That would be a difficult situation, but we are basing the whole thing on speculation from the media. Id hope the board have a better idea of what is going on, and would make the correct decision.

If he is off I cant imagine he would be looking at any more signings anyway.

[Captain Trips]

That would be a difficult situation, but we are basing the whole thing on speculation from the media. Id hope the board have a better idea of what is going on, and would make the correct decision.

If he is off I cant imagine he would be looking at any more signings anyway.

I think the speculation is true, I believe approaches have been made and RP will therefore know CC has other intentions. If he is off then he is not fulfilling his brief as manager as I do not belive he is looking to buy or will get funds, it is a mess at ER yet again.

[GreenPJ]

I think the speculation is true, I believe approaches have been made and RP will therefore know CC has other intentions. If he is off then he is not fulfilling his brief as manager as I do not belive he is looking to buy or will get funds, it is a mess at ER yet again.

Quite a lot of supposition there :devil:

[HibsMax]

I think the speculation is true, I believe approaches have been made and RP will therefore know CC has other intentions. If he is off then he is not fulfilling his brief as manager as I do not belive he is looking to buy or will get funds, it is a mess at ER yet again.

Even if his eyes are elsewhere he can still do his job as manager at Hibs until something else happens. I know this as I've changed jobs many times and when I hand in my notice I don't stop working. In fact, sometimes you end up working harder as you try and get things finished and prepare things for your teammates and eventual replacement. It's called having a work ethic - not everyone has that though. He said he was waiting until today for the English players to come back, perhaps he has some targets in England? If he is not given the funds to make any more purchases then that is certainly not his fault, blame the board.

It is a mess though.

[Moulin Yarns]

I think the speculation is true, I believe approaches have been made and RP will therefore know CC has other intentions. If he is off then he is not fulfilling his brief as manager as I do not belive he is looking to buy or will get funds, it is a mess at ER yet again.


Quite a lot of supposition there :devil:

I understand...


































That's all :greengrin

[Hibiza]

Smile and seem interested. bye.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

And if you want away that badly, dig into your own fairly well lined pockets, and buy out your contract. That should bridge the shortfall between the compensation on offer and the amount looked for.

[One Day Soon]

FFS. How long?

Someone needs to be shown the quiet room with the glass of port and the revolver.

One of Petrie, Calderwood or all of us.

I feel like one of the Martians in 'Mars Attacks' when the wailing music makes their brains swell up and then explode in green goo.

And I'm going right off places ending in 'ham' too.

[Beefster]

Smile and seem interested. bye.

FFS.....

I've seen him smile loads and it's was evident before last week's interview that he cared about the job.

However, if he genuinely had never smiled or convinced anyone in a press interview that he was interested, it still would have made absolutely hee haw difference to his ability to do the job.

Some folk on here are like wee lassies. "Smile and I might like you more". It's not ****ing Take That that he's trying to be, it's a football manager.

[joebakerforever]

FFS. How long?

Someone needs to be shown the quiet room with the glass of port and the revolver.

One of Petrie, Calderwood or all of us.

I feel like one of the Martians in 'Mars Attacks' when the wailing music makes their brains swell up and then explode in green goo.

And I'm going right off places ending in 'ham' too.

"When I'm Calling You" by Slim Whitman, except in this case it's being sung by that famous duo "Hughton & McClaren :greengrin

[marinello59]

FFS.....

I've seen him smile loads and it's was evident before last week's interview that he cared about the job.

However, if he genuinely had never smiled or convinced anyone in a press interview that he was interested, it still would have made absolutely hee haw difference to his ability to do the job.

Some folk on here are like wee lassies. "Smile and I might like you more". It's not ****ing Take That that he's trying to be, it's a football manager.

:hilarious
Superb.

Does anybody know, has Petrie sounded out the availability of any boy bands to take over coaching duties at ER?

[Andy74]

I'd suggest we all just accept that he is going and that it's just a matter of when this gets announced once the compo is agreed, which frankly I don't really care about timing wise.

That way anyone who is still in torment about will he go or will he stay can calm down.

I'm sure Hibs aren't sat waiting for this to complete before going looking elsewhere as they will also have accepted that it's just a matter of when.

[bawheid]

FFS.....
Some folk on here are like wee lassies. "Smile and I might like you more". It's not ****ing Take That that he's trying to be, it's a football manager.

:greengrin :top marks

Yogi used to get slated for being too cheery / pally during interviews.

It doesn't matter who you are or how you act, someone on Hibs.net will object.

[blackpoolhibs]

I'd suggest we all just accept that he is going and that it's just a matter of when this gets announced once the compo is agreed, which frankly I don't really care about timing wise.

That way anyone who is still in torment about will he go or will he stay can calm down.

I'm sure Hibs aren't sat waiting for this to complete before going looking elsewhere as they will also have accepted that it's just a matter of when.

:agree: i have no doubt he's off, its when not if imo. Petrie and the board will be sounding others out, well i'd like to think they were? This chump is a lame duck, he cant stay imo, even if he did a u turn and did decide he was better off staying at Hibs.

Calderwood needs to leave as quickly as possible please now, and whoever the new man is, we just need to hope this board can get get it right for a change?

[Sunny1875]

Is there any job CC is not going to get linked to by Hibs fans !?
I heard from my mates, cousins sister in law that he was getting offered the job as manager to complete the trams

[blackpoolhibs]

I heard from my mates, cousins sister in law that he was getting offered the job as manager to complete the trams

By the time he made his mind up, they'd probably be finished for around 6 months.

[MartinfaePorty]

Apologies if already posted, but heard from a Morton fan that Hibs beat Morton 5-2 in a bounce game at East Mains, this week (think it was Wednesday), so someone's obviously running the team!

[Leith Bloke EH6]

[QUOTE=Andy74;2846768]I'd suggest we all just accept that he is going and that it's just a matter of when

CC has been under increasing pressure of working and living so far apart from his family. Matters have come to a head as he has been touted for 2 vacancies which provide him with an opportunity to head back South and this is causing him a real dilemma.

Would be interested to learn if and how the Board covered this matter at the original hiring interviews.

Family must come first therefore I expect him to leave.

[lapsedhibee]

Apologies if already posted, but heard from a Morton fan that Hibs beat Morton 5-2 in a bounce game at East Mains, this week (think it was Wednesday), so someone's obviously running the team!

Caldot doesn't have that good a record with us against lower league teams, so it could easily have been one of the two cardboard cutouts of him that was in charge (the one that hasn't already gone to xham).

[blackpoolhibs]

[QUOTE=Andy74;2846768]I'd suggest we all just accept that he is going and that it's just a matter of when

CC has been under increasing pressure of working and living so far apart from his family. Matters have come to a head as he has been touted for 2 vacancies which provide him with an opportunity to head back South and this is causing him a real dilemma.

Would be interested to learn if and how the Board covered this matter at the original hiring interviews.

Family must come first therefore I expect him to leave.

A smoke screen that wont wash with me. He was at Newcastle before he came to Hibs, did he feel homesick there, did he miss his family there? Did he sheite.

Its just an excuse.

[HibsMax]

I've heard the "family excuse" touted a few times, does anyone have a link containing a quote from CC saying that he wants to leave Hibs for family reasons? Or is it a case that CC said that being away from his family is tough which obviously means he's unhappy and wants to leave?

[Kaiser1962]

I've heard the "family excuse" touted a few times, does anyone have a link containing a quote from CC saying that he wants to leave Hibs for family reasons? Or is it a case that CC said that being away from his family is tough which obviously means he's unhappy and wants to leave?

I am not sure he has ever said anything of the kind.

[blackpoolhibs]

Ain't it funny how people come round to other people's way of thinking no matter which route they take to get there? :greengrin

I will give you this one, :wink: Maka's a different story though. :na na: :greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

Been out of the country and not keeping up a lot..Has Maka moved on?

No, he's still rooted to the spot.

[blackpoolhibs]

He could never be accused of that..:greengrin
So at a premiership club,dare I ask?:na na:

Listening to the radio at the weekend, five live or talksport cant remember. they were talking to a journo from a swansea paper.

He said they were confident about the coming season, but were upset Doris had left for Wolves, and the 1st job the manager had to do was get another number 1. maka was not up to the job he said.

Kinda know what he means. :wink:

[RickyS]

Listening to the radio at the weekend, five live or talksport cant remember. they were talking to a journo from a swansea paper.

He said they were confident about the coming season, but were upset Doris had left for Wolves, and the 1st job the manager had to do was get another number 1. maka was not up to the job he said.

Kinda know what he means. :wink:

Heard that too, i actually shouted at the radio its 2 ****in goalies you need!

[blackpoolhibs]

Heard that too, i actually shouted at the radio its 2 ****in goalies you need!

:faf::faf::agree:

[Davy Mac]

[QUOTE=Leith Bloke EH6;2846789]

A smoke screen that wont wash with me. He was at Newcastle before he came to Hibs, did he feel homesick there, did he miss his family there? Did he sheite.

Its just an excuse.


It's that bloody last bit of road between Newcastle and Edinburgh, takes you an extra 2 hours you know! :greengrin

[Speedway]

In the short term we have to accept there'll be doubters. In the long term....er...there still will be.

[persevere1875]

By the time he made his mind up, they'd probably be finished for around 6 months.


Thought you were losing it BH now Im certain, nobody trakes that long to make up there mind, hell will freeze over before the trams are finished :wink:

[One Day Soon]

This whole thing is a rigged diversion masterminded by Petrie. He's Keyser Soze. One minute he's Notts Forest fan, then he's Birmingham City manager. Calderwood thinks he's being courted by both and probably neither even exist. Steve McLaren is probably still managing in Holland. I'm beginning to think even we are all just figments of his imagination.

[PapillonVert]

May I take it that we are all still in the dark as to who our manager will be at the start of the season?

Sorry, Hibs, but this is not good enough. If CC has indicated he wants to go, then punt him asap and find a new temp/scapegoat/stepping-stoner and let's get on with the next under-achieving disappointment of a season.

Oh, and please somewhere along the way, can we get in some serious people who can work out a vaguely serious strategy to at least attempt to begin the seemingly impossible task of somehow coming up with a vison of thinking of a way of imagining some kind of plan aimed at beginning in some miniscule way of taking this club forward?

In other words, please give us a straw to clutch at........

[K-Zazu]

Hibs get this sorted out we need another 4 or 5 new players in and this is just covering that up

[Jim44]

'Hibs in perilous limbo' (http://sport.scotsman.com/football/Colin-Calderwood39s-long-indecision-leaves.6794752.jp) If this outrageous delay is Deadwood's doing, Petrie wants to give him a kick up the jacksie. I suspect Calderwood is intentionally dragging his heals in order to reduce the compensation his preferred club will have to pay.

[matty_f]

'Hibs in perilous limbo' (http://sport.scotsman.com/football/Colin-Calderwood39s-long-indecision-leaves.6794752.jp) If this outrageous delay is Deadwood's doing, Petrie wants to give him a kick up the jacksie. I suspect Calderwood is intentionally dragging his heals in order to reduce the compensation his preferred club will have to pay.

CC's hands are tied until such a time that either Forest or Birmingham offer sufficient compensation (or even make a formal approach, which Forest have yet to be reported to have done!).

He can't leave to go to Birmingham as Hibs told them to bolt - and if Forest haven't approached us for permission yet, then what exactly do you want him to do?

I'm getting more and more frustrated at the petty name calling from numerous posters at someone who is currently our manager, and who may well be our manager going into the season.

The club needs support, not more ill-feeling. I really hope that there's not a nasty atmosphere at the game today.

I don't want this situation any more than anyone else on here, but Hibs and Calderwood are in a position where they need to wait and see whether or not Forest or Birmingham are going to make a move that suits all parties.

Calderwood himself may yet decide that Hibs is where he wants to remain - everyone assumed it was a given that he'd be at Forest, then at Birmingham, yet he is still here to take the team into today's game, unless something changes this morning or early afternoon.

[blackpoolhibs]

CC's hands are tied until such a time that either Forest or Birmingham offer sufficient compensation (or even make a formal approach, which Forest have yet to be reported to have done!).

He can't leave to go to Birmingham as Hibs told them to bolt - and if Forest haven't approached us for permission yet, then what exactly do you want him to do?

I'm getting more and more frustrated at the petty name calling from numerous posters at someone who is currently our manager, and who may well be our manager going into the season.

The club needs support, not more ill-feeling. I really hope that there's not a nasty atmosphere at the game today.

I don't want this situation any more than anyone else on here, but Hibs and Calderwood are in a position where they need to wait and see whether or not Forest or Birmingham are going to make a move that suits all parties.

Calderwood himself may yet decide that Hibs is where he wants to remain - everyone assumed it was a given that he'd be at Forest, then at Birmingham, yet he is still here to take the team into today's game, unless something changes this morning or early afternoon.

I think i'm filling up with the thought Matty, i feel we should be honored he's taking his time and thinking this through thoroughly.:rolleyes:

[marinello59]

CC's hands are tied until such a time that either Forest or Birmingham offer sufficient compensation (or even make a formal approach, which Forest have yet to be reported to have done!).

He can't leave to go to Birmingham as Hibs told them to bolt - and if Forest haven't approached us for permission yet, then what exactly do you want him to do?

I'm getting more and more frustrated at the petty name calling from numerous posters at someone who is currently our manager, and who may well be our manager going into the season.

The club needs support, not more ill-feeling. I really hope that there's not a nasty atmosphere at the game today.

I don't want this situation any more than anyone else on here, but Hibs and Calderwood are in a position where they need to wait and see whether or not Forest or Birmingham are going to make a move that suits all parties.

Calderwood himself may yet decide that Hibs is where he wants to remain - everyone assumed it was a given that he'd be at Forest, then at Birmingham, yet he is still here to take the team into today's game, unless something changes this morning or early afternoon.

I agree with you about the petty name calling, no need for it.
However whether Forest Or Brum are talking to Hibs officially or not our manager will have a line of communication going with them. He is playing a game here. Fair enough it is his future but given how close we are to the new season he is acting rather less than honourably.

[matty_f]

I think i'm filling up with the thought Matty, i feel we should be honored he's taking his time and thinking this through thoroughly.:rolleyes:

:greengrin


I agree with you about the petty name calling, no need for it.
However whether Forest Or Brum are talking to Hibs officially or not our manager will have a line of communication going with them. He is playing a game here. Fair enough it is his future but given how close we are to the new season he is acting rather less than honourably.

Yep, fair enough and I agree with the last part, however even if he's decided he's going somewhere else, unless Forest or Brum actually tell us they're going to take him, and pay what we're asking, Calderwood can't go, and if that's the case he wouldn't be doing Hibs or us any favours by saying he's wanting away.

[R'Albin]

I agree with you about the petty name calling, no need for it.
However whether Forest Or Brum are talking to Hibs officially or not our manager will have a line of communication going with them. He is playing a game here. Fair enough it is his future but given how close we are to the new season he is acting rather less than honourably.

Totally agree:agree: I can understand why fans are annoyed (myself included) but there is no need for name calling.

I would rather Calderwood left now, his heart doesn't appear to be in it, although if he dite stay I would support him fully, as I have done throughout his reign.

[Saorsa]

:greengrin



Yep, fair enough and I agree with the last part, however even if he's decided he's going somewhere else, unless Forest or Brum actually tell us they're going to take him, and pay what we're asking, Calderwood can't go, and if that's the case he wouldn't be doing Hibs or us any favours by saying he's wanting away.He disnae have tae say it.

[matty_f]

He disnae have tae say it.

I know.

Hibs need the situation resolved one way or the other. I don't think that it's beyond the realms of possibility that CC will stay, and I also think that he's not 100% certain that he does want to leave either.

I think if he's going to go, it needs to happen sooner rather than later so we can move on and get someone else in. If he's staying then it needs to be made clear sharpish as well.

The longer this drags on, the more unrest amongst the support it causes, now I'll maintain that the most important thing is that the players and backroom staff aren't unsettled with it and can go about their business knowing what's going on, it doesn't do anyone any good to have speculation fueling ill-feeling between the support and the manager.

[Moulin Yarns]

posted elsewhere

"We have three weeks until the season starts and we have a manager that doesn't want to be here and a team that desperately needs a few more players added. What chance is there of new players coming in anytime soon? Not much chance, IMO.

Before anyone says maybe he doesn't want away, he would have came out and said he was staying."

Purely conjecture. this has never been said by anyone other than folk on the messageboard who should know better.

IMHO we, the fans, should have been posting positive messages to let CC, RP, NFFC and BCFC that we want CC to stay and support him and the team from the start, instead all we get is negativity, in the he's gone, he's going, he wants away, eff off, we don't want you etc, blah de blah ad infinitum

Pleas, CC if you read the messageboards, ignore everything that has been said and believe you can do a job for Hibernian.


:cgwa:cgwa:cgwa:cgwa:cgwa

[Caversham Green]

Been out of the country and not keeping up a lot..Has Maka moved on?

Offered a new deal at Swansea. http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/swansea-offer-new-deal-yves-ma-kalambay-1727881



An outstanding support goalkeeper.....but we still need two more keepers

[smurf]

RP simply has to bring this to a swift conclusion. This is going to have a negative impact on the new season. We have a manager who doesn't want to be here. And no assistant. The lame duck needs to go. His replacement appointed and a few quality players recruited.

[matty_f]

RP simply has to bring this to a swift conclusion. This is going to have a negative impact on the new season. We have a manager who doesn't want to be here. And no assistant. The lame duck needs to go. His replacement appointed and a few quality players recruited.
The lame duck?

[hibs0666]

RP simply has to bring this to a swift conclusion. This is going to have a negative impact on the new season. We have a manager who doesn't want to be here. And no assistant. The lame duck needs to go. His replacement appointed and a few quality players recruited.

How do you know that Petrie is stopping anything coming to a conclusion?

[blackpoolhibs]

The lame duck?

I think he is, i dont think he can possibly stay, even if he eventually made his mind up, or we couldn't agree compo.

Just imagine what will happen as soon as results go against us? He's going to get slaughtered from all 3 home stands, the atmosphere would be filled with hate, fans arguing with each other.

he's created a mess, one that imo cant be fixed with him staying.

[Moulin Yarns]

RP simply has to bring this to a swift conclusion. This is going to have a negative impact on the new season. We have a manager who doesn't want to be here. And no assistant. The lame duck needs to go. His replacement appointed and a few quality players recruited.


posted elsewhere

"We have three weeks until the season starts and we have a manager that doesn't want to be here and a team that desperately needs a few more players added. What chance is there of new players coming in anytime soon? Not much chance, IMO.

Before anyone says maybe he doesn't want away, he would have came out and said he was staying."

The bits in BOLD are purely conjecture. this has never been said by anyone other than folk on the messageboard who should know better.

IMHO we, the fans, should have been posting positive messages to let CC, RP, NFFC and BCFC that we want CC to stay and support him and the team from the start, instead all we get is negativity, in the he's gone, he's going, he wants away, eff off, we don't want you etc, blah de blah ad infinitum

Pleas, CC if you read the messageboards, ignore everything that has been said and believe you can do a job for Hibernian.


:cgwa:cgwa:cgwa:cgwa:cgwa

Nuff said, opinions eh?

[TRIALIST]

I know.

Hibs need the situation resolved one way or the other. I don't think that it's beyond the realms of possibility that CC will stay, and I also think that he's not 100% certain that he does want to leave either.

I think if he's going to go, it needs to happen sooner rather than later so we can move on and get someone else in. If he's staying then it needs to be made clear sharpish as well.

The longer this drags on, the more unrest amongst the support it causes, now I'll maintain that the most important thing is that the players and backroom staff aren't unsettled with it and can go about their business knowing what's going on, it doesn't do anyone any good to have speculation fueling ill-feeling between the support and the manager.

Its a fair assumption to make that CC has been asked by Chris Hughton and Notts Forest.. IF HE WOULD GO and the answer was YES. He say's himself that he speaks to Hughton most days...so the question would have been asked. Whether it was McMahon or any of his historical contacts at Forest who asked it doesnt matter..CC wants away and has given them enough encouragement for them to ask for permission to speak to him.
I'm sure thats also been thrashed out between him and the board, Rods job now is to get top dollar for hfc to cover all of the grievences already covered in this thread plus make the correct approaches for our new manager.....and get the right guy.
What lessons have they learned from the recruitment of the last 4 managers, who all failed for various reasons and none were bad luck. My guess is they need top dollar to approach a more experienced manager, time will tell. Good luck to the board, cos its getting very close to sack the board time.

[matty_f]

I think he is, i dont think he can possibly stay, even if he eventually made his mind up, or we couldn't agree compo.

Just imagine what will happen as soon as results go against us? He's going to get slaughtered from all 3 home stands, the atmosphere would be filled with hate, fans arguing with each other.

he's created a mess, one that imo cant be fixed with him staying.

That'll be the same with any manager. The stadium was like that with Yogi - a Hibs man through and through, and with Mixu.

If the players and the board are behind him, AND he can get results, we will forgive this time. Football fans are fickle as anything. The Yams are wearing Webster shirts, we hammered Nid when he was at Rangers but one solid challenge in his first derby and we loved him again.

[Forza Fred]

I think he is, i dont think he can possibly stay, even if he eventually made his mind up, or we couldn't agree compo.

Just imagine what will happen as soon as results go against us? He's going to get slaughtered from all 3 home stands, the atmosphere would be filled with hate, fans arguing with each other.

he's created a mess, one that imo cant be fixed with him staying.

I agree with the first and last paragraph of above post.

I can't think of many clubs with', ahem "'ámbition'' who would put up with such indecision just three weeks from the start of a season.

We're starting to act like the Yams, heaven forbid.

All the to-ing and fro-ing could and should have been ended by now by CC coming out and publicly declaring that he is staying.

That he has not done so only reinforces that he wants to go..if not to Brum or Forest this time, then in a few months when a vacancy comes up darn sarf that he thinks he has nya chance of getting...then you can be sure he he will be applying.

He is very much now a lame duck, by his own words, and should be allowed to go NOW to quickly get any pain out the way.

Very few players will see Hibs as an attractive option at the moment knowing Calderwood is only in "'çaretaker' 'mode, and will wait until they see who 'the proper gaffer 'is going to be before they consider joining us.

Personally I think one of the main resons he is still here is that Petrie may deliberatley be playing extra hard ball over any compensatino package because he knows that as soon as Cc goes, he will be hugely criticised for appointing someone in the first instance who it appears really didn't care about being here in the first place.

We are in a bit of a shambles at the moment (again) I'm afraid but I"d have a bit more admiration for Petrie if he stood up and said....'he is going..'we cant állow the ongoing conjecture and indecision to destablise us anymore''

[Baldy Foghorn]

I agree with the first and last paragraph of above post.

I can't think of many clubs with', ahem "'ámbition'' who would put up with such indecision just three weeks from the start of a season.

We're starting to act like the Yams, heaven forbid.

All the to-ing and fro-ing could and should have been ended by now by CC coming out and publicly declaring that he is staying.

That he has not done so only reinforces that he wants to go..if not to Brum or Forest this time, then in a few months when a vacancy comes up darn sarf that he thinks he has nya chance of getting...then you can be sure he he will be applying.

He is very much now a lame duck, by his own words, and should be allowed to go NOW to quickly get any pain out the way.

Very few players will see Hibs as an attractive option at the moment knowing Calderwood is only in "'çaretaker' 'mode, and will wait until they see who 'the proper gaffer 'is going to be before they consider joining us.

Personally I think one of the main resons he is still here is that Petrie may deliberatley be playing extra hard ball over any compensatino package because he knows that as soon as Cc goes, he will be hugely criticised for appointing someone in the first instance who it appears really didn't care about being here in the first place.

We are in a bit of a shambles at the moment (again) I'm afraid but I"d have a bit more admiration for Petrie if he stood up and said....'he is going..'we cant állow the ongoing conjecture and indecision to destablise us anymore''

:agree::agree:

Does the Club have ambition though, thats the million dollar question for me......

[matty_f]

:agree::agree:

Does the Club have ambition though, thats the million dollar question for me......
well, they're trying to hold onto the manager, so I guess that points to them having ambition.

[Mikey]

http://sport.scotsman.com/hibernianfc/Hibs-torment-over-future-of.6794862.jp

[MrSmith]

:agree::agree:

Does the Club have ambition though, that's the million dollar question for me......

Money is the problem here!



well, they're trying to hold onto the manager, so I guess that points to them having ambition.

Only until the right deal ... for money ... is done! That is the desire and as far as the ambition stems...

[Kaiser1962]

Only until the right deal ... for money ... is done! That is the desire and as far as the ambition stems...

What would you suggest they do in this situation?

[Saorsa]

http://sport.scotsman.com/hibernianfc/Hibs-torment-over-future-of.6794862.jpoh joy :yawn:

[matty_f]

http://sport.scotsman.com/hibernianfc/Hibs-torment-over-future-of.6794862.jp
ffs!

[MrSmith]

What would you suggest they do in this situation?

Good question?? However, we are starting a new season in 3 weeks without a settled team and that is not good. Although you are asking me personally, so in my opinion... I'd let him walk for free! We need stability and a good pre-season now!! A new manager say for arguments sake, WGS, that would probably pay for itself in terms of season tickets and a team ready to compete unlike the previous two seasons.

[Baldy Foghorn]

well, they're trying to hold onto the manager, so I guess that points to them having ambition.

are they????

[down the slope]

If we have knocked back 300k for Calderwood it would seem money is the object , for the sake of a few thousand that misery baws is trying to screw out of other clubs we are left rudderless with not even an assistant to step in , an absolute shambles which speaks volumes for the boards football knowledge.

[blackpoolhibs]

With this now dragging on for how long it has, does anyone feel Calderwood really wants to stay? Surely if he did, and had any thought for the club its fans and players he'd have put this to bed by now?

[DC_Hibs]

well, they're trying to hold onto the manager, so I guess that points to them having ambition.

Classic. THEY'RE TRYING........ to get as much compensation as possible.

If Calderwood wanted to stay at Hibs it would have been made public a long time ago it's really that simple.
We are coming up to two weeks since Forest's interest was made public and 10 days + since Hughton got the Bham job and I am amazed Hibs have allowed this to drag on so long when we are now starting pre season games with a squad in serious need of strengthening and league season three weeks away.

Bham and Forest know the position Hibs are in with no manager or assistant and our season starting very soon. They have no real rush to get an assistant in if it means paying over the odds now so will be happy to delay in the event Hibs cave in as we technically have neither a manager or assistant which cannot go on much longer.

For the sake of maximising compensation (an extra 50-200k) Petrie is now jeopardising our start to the season (if not more) by the delay in finalising this. This isnt a player sale he is haggling over he has to look at the bigger picture. Is he maybe more concerned with his reputation and not willing to lose face by accepting a lower offer to allow us to move on??

[BEEJ]

i dont think he can possibly stay, even if he eventually made his mind up, or we couldn't agree compo.

he's created a mess, one that imo cant be fixed with him staying.
:agree: He's damaged goods now, unfortunately, since that interview.


I can't think of many clubs with', ahem "'ámbition'' who would put up with such indecision just three weeks from the start of a season.

Personally I think one of the main resons he is still here is that Petrie may deliberatley be playing extra hard ball over any compensatino package because he knows that as soon as Cc goes, he will be hugely criticised for appointing someone in the first instance who it appears really didn't care about being here in the first place.
RP will be trying to recoup the money we paid to Newcastle for CC's services PLUS an amount that Hibs may have to pay out very soon to another club to secure CC's successor.


We are in a bit of a shambles at the moment (again) I'm afraid but I"d have a bit more admiration for Petrie if he stood up and said....'he is going..'we cant állow the ongoing conjecture and indecision to destablise us anymore''
We are in a shambles.

But whilst RP is in the midst of negotiations he cannot make a public statement on the situation without potentially damaging Hibs bargaining position.

In terms of those negotiations, what is in our favour is that two clubs are vying for CC's services so RP can play one off against the other to secure the best compensation fee.

What is not in our favour is that two bidders makes the negotiation process even more complicated and protracted than normal. Also they are bidding for a No. 2 coach rather than a Manager so there is slightly less urgency on their part.

Meantime we are not in a position to spend weeks finalising the deal.

[whiskyhibby]

Classic. THEY'RE TRYING........ to get as much compensation as possible.

If Calderwood wanted to stay at Hibs it would have been made public a long time ago it's really that simple.
We are coming up to two weeks since Forest's interest was made public and 10 days + since Hughton got the Bham job and I am amazed Hibs have allowed this to drag on so long when we are now starting pre season games with a squad in serious need of strengthening and league season three weeks away.

Bham and Forest know the position Hibs are in with no manager or assistant and our season starting very soon. They have no real rush to get an assistant in if it means paying over the odds now so will be happy to delay in the event Hibs cave in as we technically have neither a manager or assistant which cannot go on much longer.

For the sake of maximising compensation (an extra 50-200k) Petrie is now jeopardising our start to the season (if not more) by the delay in finalising this. This isnt a player sale he is haggling over he has to look at the bigger picture. Is he maybe more concerned with his reputation and not willing to lose face by accepting a lower offer to allow us to move on??

I suspect that Petrie already has a target lined up if CC leaves.............

[Scorrie]

With this now dragging on for how long it has, does anyone feel Calderwood really wants to stay? Surely if he did, and had any thought for the club its fans and players he'd have put this to bed by now?

Absolutely. That's it in a nutshell for me. A simple press conference saying I'm staying would do but given that he hasnt done this, it's clear he wants away. With the season 3 weeks away this is becoming a shambles all round.

[Kaiser1962]

Classic. THEY'RE TRYING........ to get as much compensation as possible.

If Calderwood wanted to stay at Hibs it would have been made public a long time ago it's really that simple.

We are coming up to two weeks since Forest's interest was made public and 10 days + since Hughton got the Bham job and I am amazed Hibs have allowed this to drag on so long when we are now starting pre season games with a squad in serious need of strengthening and league season three weeks away.

Bham and Forest know the position Hibs are in with no manager or assistant and our season starting very soon. They have no real rush to get an assistant in if it means paying over the odds now so will be happy to delay in the event Hibs cave in as we technically have neither a manager or assistant which cannot go on much longer.

For the sake of maximising compensation (an extra 50-200k) Petrie is now jeopardising our start to the season (if not more) by the delay in finalising this. This isnt a player sale he is haggling over he has to look at the bigger picture. Is he maybe more concerned with his reputation and not willing to lose face by accepting a lower offer to allow us to move on??


How many assumptions do you make? If he had sworn allegiance to the cause ala McLeish would you have been happier?

[Kaiser1962]

I suspect that Petrie already has a target lined up if CC leaves.............

I would hope has had for a wee while now.

[R'Albin]

I don't get why hibs found the need to have that press conference? Surely we would have been better off saying nothing until everything was sorted out?

[blackpoolhibs]

Absolutely. That's it in a nutshell for me. A simple press conference saying I'm staying would do but given that he hasnt done this, it's clear he wants away. With the season 3 weeks away this is becoming a shambles all round.

Not now imo, its gone way past that now. He's taking the piss now, and hopefully gets TF by monday.

[RickyS]

Not now imo, its gone way past that now. He's taking the piss now, and hopefully gets TF by monday.

will he be asked the difficult question by hibstv today?

[Jones28]

At this rate there is no chance he's staying, but by dragging it out he'll be doing Hibs a favour by maximising the amount of compensation that NFFC or BCFC will pay.

It wouldn't surprise me if Hibs already have their eye on someone as a replacement eg Gordon Strachan or Michael O'Neil.

He'll be gone within a week with £500,000 of compensation going to Hibs, that money will then go to the next manager (Strachan :pray: ) to get in a couple more of his own players before the end of the window :flag:

[Holmesdale Hibs]

This has gone beyond an absolute farce. My theory (and I’m sure its somewhere else in the 2000+ posts) is that CC only took the Hibs job because he knew Houghton was going to get punted from Newcastle shortly after. IMO, part of him saw the Hibs job as a filler until Houghton was offered something else.

I’m disappointed with CC. I thought he would do a much better job than he has done and I don’t think he’s advanced the team from the Mixu/Yogi era. The way he has wh0red himself out to Forrest/Birmingham is embarrassing.

CC has gone beyond the point of no return and I hope he GTF ASAP and we can move on from this shambles.

[Saorsa]

At this rate there is no chance he's staying, but by dragging it out he'll be doing Hibs a favour by maximising the amount of compensation that NFFC or BCFC will pay.

It wouldn't surprise me if Hibs already have their eye on someone as a replacement eg Gordon Strachan or Michael O'Neil.

He'll be gone within a week with £500,000 of compensation going to Hibs, that money will then go to the next manager (Strachan :pray: ) to get in a couple more of his own players before the end of the window :flag:This situation is doing us a favour? I think not

I doubt it's him that dragging it out anyway, it'll Petrie. An extra few hundred thousand compared tae our preparations for next season being ballsed up. Calderwood would be away fae here faster than somebody being chased with ***** on a stick if he could be.

[one day maybe...]

IMO he should have said he wasn't going anywhere. As he has not yet done so, he can go. He is doing Hibs no favours whatsoever. I hope Petrie has a replacement in the pipeline or the start to our season could be horrendous..

[Jones28]

This situation is doing us a favour? I think not

I doubt it's him that dragging it out anyway, it'll Petrie. An extra few hundred thousand compared tae our preparations for next season being ballsed up. Calderwood would be away fae here faster than somebody being chased with ***** on a stick if he could be.

Oops, i wasn't very clear there, I only meant because Hibs will stand to get more in compensation.
You're probably right about Petrie and CC leaving though

Personally couldn't give a flying one about Calderwood, he's the most characterless manager Hibs have had in my lifetime (compared to all you oldies that had Alex Miller, christ that must make you feel old :greengrin)

[smurf]

Then promote him with no increase in salary when we finally agree compensation for the lame duck to go?

Obviously I'm not being totally serious but would it be much more farcical than the current situation?

[R'Albin]

Then promote him with no increase in salary when we finally agree compensation for the lame duck to go?

Obviously I'm not being totally serious but would it be much more farcical than the current situation?

But if the cc thing hasn't been decided yet, there is a chance he might stay so the person could permanently be assistant? So why would anyone come?

[blackpoolhibs]

Great news, he's managed to get to Berwick, :rolleyes: i wonder how long he will take to make his mind up on who starts?

[ronaldo7]

Great news, he's managed to get to Berwick, :rolleyes: i wonder how long he will take to make his mind up on who starts?

Is he in handcuffs then?

The first song of the day at Berwick will be "Please release me" by Jim Reeves.:greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

Is he in handcuffs then?

The first song of the day at Berwick will be "Please release me" by Jim Reeves.:greengrin

Hows it going pal, you down in sunny Blackpool for the friendly? Morays coming across early, we might partake in a wee swally before kick off. :wink:

[ronaldo7]

Hows it going pal, you down in sunny Blackpool for the friendly? Morays coming across early, we might partake in a wee swally before kick off. :wink:

Nothing booked yet G. Will decide nearer the time as Lynz is not too well the now.

Cheers

[blackpoolhibs]

Nothing booked yet G. Will decide nearer the time as Lynz is not too well the now.

Cheers

Sorry to here that mate, hope she's better very soon.

[ronaldo7]

Sorry to here that mate, hope she's better very soon.

:aok:

[Scorrie]

Great news, he's managed to get to Berwick, :rolleyes: i wonder how long he will take to make his mind up on who starts?


That's handier for the midlands then; not so far to travel to his new job

[brydekirk]

:hmmm:
Then promote him with no increase in salary when we finally agree compensation for the lame duck to go?

Obviously I'm not being totally serious but would it be much more farcical than the current situation?

[smurf]

:hmmm:

Poorly edited by whatever admin!

[blackpoolhibs]

No i dont mean mickey mouse has one, just anyone who's at the game, does he look interested, is he getting any stick, did he acknowledge the support?

[Dunbar Hibee]

No i dont mean mickey mouse has one, just anyone who's at the game, does he look interested, is he getting any stick, did he acknowledge the support?

Dunno, but he didn't travel with the team.

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Dunno, but he didn't travel with the team.


Oh boy.

Let the games begin.... :rolleyes:



If he's going, why doesn't he just say so and GO?

then we can all get on with our lives....

[YehButNoBut]

Dunno, but he didn't travel with the team.

So that should confirm he has deffo gone then, just compensation to be sorted.

Let the search for a new man begin, surely Rod already has someone lined up. :agree:

Have heard it's O'Neill