Summer transfer thread 2025

[04Sauzee]

CONFIRMED: Rangers have signed Luton Town attacking midfielder Thelo Aasgaard in a deal worth around £3.5m.

The Norway international, 23, has penned a four-year contract with #RFC.

#LTFC

[Lago]

CONFIRMED: Rangers have signed Luton Town attacking midfielder Thelo Aasgaard in a deal worth around £3.5m.

The Norway international, 23, has penned a four-year contract with #RFC.

#LTFC
Going to be a different and better Rangers this season.

[HoboHarry]

Chelsea sign Jamie Gittens from Borussia Dortmund for £48.5m and further £3.5m in add-ons, seven year contract

i don't think i've heard of that length of contract since the Jim Mclean days at Tannadice


where the heck is Chelsea getting the money for all these transfers they've done
Erling Haaland signed a contract earlier this year that keeps him at City until 2034.

[Smartie]

Going to be a different and better Rangers this season.

Not saying you’re wrong, but is it anything specific about these signings from Luton and Peterborough that everybody should be particularly afraid of?

The Huns are very good at building hype and folk have a quite incredible propensity to buy into it.

[tonyrougier123]

Not saying you’re wrong, but is it anything specific about these signings from Luton and Peterborough that everybody should be particularly afraid of?

The Huns are very good at building hype and folk have a quite incredible propensity to buy into it.

Personally think whilst being solid signings they don’t make them anything special. Thelo Aasgaard is decent but these signings are championship level players. Unless they build a team and play as a unit and the supporters give them time rangers will be hitting the repeat button next season based on early dealings imo.

[Souter96Mac]

Not saying you’re wrong, but is it anything specific about these signings from Luton and Peterborough that everybody should be particularly afraid of?

The Huns are very good at building hype and folk have a quite incredible propensity to buy into it.

Agree with this - none of the signings they've made make me think they'll be any better than they were last season.

[Brianmcd]

Chelsea seem to be a law unto themselves…

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13392443/chelsea-and-aston-villa-fined-27m-and-9-5m-respectively-by-uefa-for-breaching-financial-rules

They also sold their woman’s team to a subsidiary for £200m to get round PSR rules.

[Keepthefaith]

Personally think whilst being solid signings they don’t make them anything special. Thelo Aasgaard is decent but these signings are championship level players. Unless they build a team and play as a unit and the supporters give them time rangers will be hitting the repeat button next season based on early dealings imo.

this is the bit that I think is the most important. there does seem to be some quality there (arrons I think will stand out in this league) but it depends how they adapt to the pressure cooker that is playing for the old firm. interesting that the Celtic fullback Johnston spoke about how hard he found it to settle in and cope with the pressure. look at Man Utd - signing quality players does not give any guarantees! will Martin himself cope? his previous experience at Southampton and Swansea could hardly be described as intense.

same, if not more so goes for hearts. plucking numerous players out of obscurity, putting them on good wages...suddenly finding themselves in a totally different football context...for me reminds me of errors we've made with players who looked like they had all the potential to make it but ultimately fell short.

I'm much happier with the stability we have, the ethos and culture we have than something based on analytics. for me, McInnes is too old school and although experienced I'm not sure how well he himself will cope if things there go tits up.

I'm also wondering how many of our own younger players will get a chance this year. we seem to have a few with real potential - could this be the year the likes of Jacob McIntyre, Dean Cleland and Jimenez break through? get triantis and a striker in and I think we have the depth we need to give it a real good go this year.

[007]

What the **** is that banner? 😂

Cringe inducing pish.

Equivalent of “The Black Knight Hibernians”

Embarrassing af.

[04Sauzee]

Birmingham announce the signing of Kyōgo Furuhashi

[jonny]

Chelsea sign Jamie Gittens from Borussia Dortmund for £48.5m and further £3.5m in add-ons, seven year contract

i don't think i've heard of that length of contract since the Jim Mclean days at Tannadice


where the heck is Chelsea getting the money for all these transfers they've done

I saw a program on Sky where one of their directors was being interviewed. He said their strategy is to pay comparatively less wages on a weekly basis but offer long-term contracts to players for stability.
It also ensures that less players will leave for free during the peak years of their career.

[neil7908]

Birmingham announce the signing of Kyōgo Furuhashi

Wow, his career has really gone off the rails since leaving Celtic. A guy that was being linked with Spurs is how playing for a team that has just been promoted from League 1.

[Albert Kidd 86’]

Birmingham announce the signing of Kyōgo Furuhashi

A possible lesson for Triantis there, the grass is not always greener.

Hope Miller points this out to Nectar in one of his pestering calls:wink:, keep the pressure up Milsey.

[BlackSheep]

A possible lesson for Triantis there, the grass is not always greener.

Hope Miller points this out to Nectar in one of his pestering calls:wink:, keep the pressure up Milsey.

Playing devils advocate here but is Kyogo’s move to Birmingham really a bad thing for him…? If he does well then he is in the perfect shop window for a potential bigger move.

His move to France was supposed to help him win a place in the Japan squad but it didn’t work out. The English Championship might not be the ideal location for that either but it’s hardly a terrible place to end up…

On the other hand… bad Kyogo, Nectar take note 😂

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Playing devils advocate here but is Kyogo’s move to Birmingham really a bad thing for him…? If he does well then he is in the perfect shop window for a potential bigger move.

His move to France was supposed to help him win a place in the Japan squad but it didn’t work out. The English Championship might not be the ideal location for that either but it’s hardly a terrible place to end up…

On the other hand… bad Kyogo, Nectar take note 😂

Birmingham aiming for straight back to back promotions and one of the most exciting projects in the game right now.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Playing devils advocate here but is Kyogo’s move to Birmingham really a bad thing for him…? If he does well then he is in the perfect shop window for a potential bigger move.

His move to France was supposed to help him win a place in the Japan squad but it didn’t work out. The English Championship might not be the ideal location for that either but it’s hardly a terrible place to end up…

On the other hand… bad Kyogo, Nectar take note 😂

He’s 31 this season so he won’t be getting a bigger move as his next one I wouldn’t think. His best hope is back to back promotions.

[Godsahibby]

I saw a program on Sky where one of their directors was being interviewed. He said their strategy is to pay comparatively less wages on a weekly basis but offer long-term contracts to players for stability.
It also ensures that less players will leave for free during the peak years of their career.

Something as well to do with amortisation over a longer period linked to the value of the player and allowing the club to get round FFP rules. Pretty sure the rules were tweaked when Chelsea started doing and there is a max period it can be taken over.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Birmingham aiming for straight back to back promotions and one of the most exciting projects in the game right now.

Can Wrexham go back to back to back?

[J-C]

Birmingham aiming for straight back to back promotions and one of the most exciting projects in the game right now.

They pissed league 1 and have a ton of money behind them, they're aiming to be back in the Premier league asap.

[Walter]

Anyone else having visions of triantis going elsewhere, not getting a game then going on loan to Aberdeen, struggling there but popping up and scoring against us?

[Dr What If?]

Anyone else having visions of triantis going elsewhere, not getting a game then going on loan to Aberdeen, struggling there but popping up and scoring against us?
I know how you feel, I have the odd Sunday like that.....hungover from the Saturday and the thought of work on the Monday. Don't worry, a good fry up and a bit of rest and you will be right as rain again :agree:

[Groathillgrump]

make a hat out of tinfoil, might help.

ftfy.

[Walter]

Make a hat out of cooking foil, might help.

If it only it was that simple

[Bobby's Cinema]

Playing devils advocate here but is Kyogo’s move to Birmingham really a bad thing for him…? If he does well then he is in the perfect shop window for a potential bigger move.

His move to France was supposed to help him win a place in the Japan squad but it didn’t work out. The English Championship might not be the ideal location for that either but it’s hardly a terrible place to end up…

On the other hand… bad Kyogo, Nectar take note 😂
I've not read what's come before so not sure what is intended tongue and cheek.

He had that window at Celtic when he was the best player in the country, playing and scoring in the champions league. To end up at Birmingham after a year of limited game time and no real prospect of a winners medal of European football is disastrous from where he was. It's as bad a climb down in recent years as I can remember in my opinion.

[keep the faith]

Can Wrexham go back to back to back?

Who cares

[7Hero]

Chelsea sign Jamie Gittens from Borussia Dortmund for £48.5m and further £3.5m in add-ons, seven year contract

i don't think i've heard of that length of contract since the Jim Mclean days at Tannadice


where the heck is Chelsea getting the money for all these transfers they've done

lot more common now, his value of. 48.5m gets depreciated over 7 years so he is only 48.5/7 cost to them per year.

as for where the money is coming they sold there womens team to themselves for over |£200m

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Who cares

Obviously not you. Others might. Would be some achievement.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

lot more common now, his value of. 48.5m gets depreciated over 7 years so he is only 48.5/7 cost to them per year.

as for where the money is coming they sold there womens team to themselves for over |£200m

Sounds familiar. Like they owe the money to themselves etc

[badabing67]

A lot of info in there nothing about transfers though

https://x.com/i/status/1941809610760872195

[Ringothedog]

Obviously not you. Others might. Would be some achievement.

With the money being chucked at them it is not really surprising they are doing well.

[Cabbage-Patch]

Dons sign yet another player. Attacking midfielder on loan from Sunderland. Less competition for Triantis :confused:

Wonder if they might regret signing as many foreign players as they have. Might work for them just always think it's a risk if they don't gel.

[04Sauzee]

Dons sign yet another player. Attacking midfielder on loan from Sunderland. Less competition for Triantis :confused:

Wonder if they might regret signing as many foreign players as they have. Might work for them just always think it's a risk if they don't gel.

22 years of age, not sure how long he's got on his contract at Sunderland, looks like he's had a bit of first team football playing for Sunderland and Portsmouth last season. Sounds like he could be decent.

Also played for lorient 🧐
Hibs still to dip into the loan market this season.

[bingo70]

https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/peterborough-united-linked-with-a-move-for-young-bournemouth-defender-5210711

Owen Bevan linked with Peterborough.

[04Sauzee]

🔴⚪️Aberdeen have the option to sign Adil Aouchiche from Sunderland for a club record of £1.5 million.
🇫🇷The French youth cap joins on a season’s loan.
✍️The Dons are still waiting to see if they can land fellow Frenchman Moussa Soumano from Ajaccio.🔴⚪️

[Cabbage-Patch]

https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/peterborough-united-linked-with-a-move-for-young-bournemouth-defender-5210711

Owen Bevan linked with Peterborough.

Genuinely not bothered. Whole Bevan situation has been a fiasco from start to finish and obviously not meant to be. Hopefully Bournemouth have someone else lined up

[badabing67]

https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/peterborough-united-linked-with-a-move-for-young-bournemouth-defender-5210711

Owen Bevan linked with Peterborough.

For his sake and Bournemouth's they need him to complete a full season. They must have their concerns about how things have been going

[EGL2000]

Dons sign yet another player. Attacking midfielder on loan from Sunderland. Less competition for Triantis :confused:

Wonder if they might regret signing as many foreign players as they have. Might work for them just always think it's a risk if they don't gel.

Looks a good signing on paper played a lot of football at a high level and still young. 81 Appearances in French top division at that age is pretty impressive.

[B.H.F.C]

Dons sign yet another player. Attacking midfielder on loan from Sunderland. Less competition for Triantis :confused:

Wonder if they might regret signing as many foreign players as they have. Might work for them just always think it's a risk if they don't gel.

Triantis isn’t an attacking midfielder though.

[Winston Ingram]

Wow, his career has really gone off the rails since leaving Celtic. A guy that was being linked with Spurs is how playing for a team that has just been promoted from League 1.

The track record of Celtic’s big money Sales after after moving to one of the big money leagues is appalling. Other than Van Dijk and Wanyama I’m really struggling to think of any that have been a success.

Edouard, Dembele, O’Reilly, Tierney, Jota, Kyogo have been rotten. Looking forward to Kuhn being the next.

[EGL2000]

The track record of Celtic’s big money Sales after after movie to one of the big money leagues is appalling. Other than Van Dijk and Wanyama I’m really struggling to think of any that have been a success.

Edouard, Dembele, O’Reilly, Tierney, Jota, Kyogo have been rotten. Looking forward to Kuhn being the next.

Frimpong and Ajer another two that's done really well. Tierney and Édouard definitely not rotten. Ask the majority of Arsenal fans and they love him to bits. Just been screwed by injuries.

Demebele scored 56 goals for Lyon far way off rotten. Making millions now in Saudi as well.

Would agree with Jota and Kyogo though.

[Winston Ingram]

Frimpong and Ajer another two that's done really well. Tierney and Édouard definitely not rotten. Ask the majority of Arsenal fans and they love him to bits. Just been screwed by injuries.

Demebele scored 56 goals for Lyon far way off rotten. Making millions now in Saudi as well.

Would agree with Jota and Kyogo though.

Frimpong definitely. Ajer is in and out at Brentford. The Arsenal fans may have liked him but the manager didn’t seem to. He was 3rd/4th choice left back left back. I remember Tomiyasu, Timber, Zinchenko, and Miles Lewis-Shelly were preferred to him when he was fit. He certainly wasn’t a success.

Dembele was never really 1st choice bar the 21-22 season. Probably harsh to say was a failure but wasn’t a huge success.

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

Interesting to see a boy on Twitter posting his Aberdeen XI after latest signings. Not a single Scot - obviously a few in the squad - in his ‘starting XI’.

I get that Cormack is playing economics big baws, running at 3m loss and that the signings are part of all that but I am not sure it always works.

Of Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen I’d put my money on Aberdeen being the ones who implode this time round.

Jimmy Thelin was not looking clever for a fair bit of last season and it could be that squad will have no heart/ identity/ whatever you want to call it…

[EGL2000]

Frimpong definitely. Ajer is in and out at Brentford. The Arsenal fans may have liked him but the manager didn’t seem to. He was 3rd/4th choice left back left back. I remember Tomiyasu, Timber, Zinchenko, and Miles Lewis-Shelly were preferred to him when he was fit. He certainly wasn’t a success.

Dembele was never really 1st choice bar the 21-22 season. Probably harsh to say was a failure but wasn’t a huge success.

All of them have been far from "rotten" as you described though. That's harry mcirdy and jair levels.

[EGL2000]

Interesting to see a boy on Twitter posting his Aberdeen XI after latest signings. Not a single Scot - obviously a few in the squad - in his ‘starting XI’.

I get that Cormack is playing economics big baws, running at 3m loss and that the signings are part of all that but I am not sure it always works.

Of Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen I’d put my money on Aberdeen being the ones who implode this time round.

Jimmy Thelin was not looking clever for a fair bit of last season and it could be that squad will have no heart/ identity/ whatever you want to call it…

Definitely a lack of viable Scottish transfers targets for the 3 clubs. Alot are either above what we can offer now or wouldn't be good enough to improve the starting 11s. Can definitely still get more value in foreign markets as well. Obviously you get the higher risk with not having played in Scotland though!

[Billy Whizz]

Definitely a lack of viable Scottish transfers targets for the 3 clubs. Alot are either above what we can offer now or wouldn't be good enough to improve the starting 11s. Can definitely still get more value in foreign markets as well. Obviously you get the higher risk with not having played in Scotland though!

Both think they can buy cheap and sell high. Dons got lucky with Miovski and think that model works

[04Sauzee]

Both think they can buy cheap and sell high. Dons got lucky with Miovski and think that model works

I'm not sure Aberdeen are buying that cheaply tbh.

I'm sure Hibs have spent money on both Bowie and Mulligan in the hope they shine and move on for a decent profit. I'm sure we are hopping we can do the same with Rocky and maybe even Miller. It's what we do with the money when we get it and finding these players that help Hibs and we can improve and sell on.

[brianmc]

The track record of Celtic’s big money Sales after after movie to one of the big money leagues is appalling. Other than Van Dijk and Wanyama I’m really struggling to think of any that have been a success.

Edouard, Dembele, O’Reilly, Tierney, Jota, Kyogo have been rotten. Looking forward to Kuhn being the next.
I'm pretty sure that's of zero concern for Celtc.
As long as they continue to sign players for (relative) pennies and then sell them on for fortunes in relation to our League's standing then I'm sure they couldn't give a ****.

[Winston Ingram]

I'm pretty sure that's of zero concern for Celtc.
As long as they continue to sign players for (relative) pennies and then sell them on for fortunes in relation to our League's standing then I'm sure they couldn't give a ****.

It might be. When negotiating future deals, it’d be difficult to demand high prices when the track record of their past sales is so poor.

[HoboHarry]

It might be. When negotiating future deals, it’d be difficult to demand high prices when the track record of their past sales is so poor.

Celtic just managed to make a handsome profit on Kuhn despite those previous deals.

[basehibby]

They also sold their woman’s team to a subsidiary for £200m to get round PSR rules.

I'd call that fraud. £2M would probably be generous

[Lago]

Celtic just managed to make a handsome profit on Kuhn despite those previous deals.
They certainly did, as an aside I take it flooding being reported is not affecting your part of Texas?

[HoboHarry]

They certainly did, as an aside I take it flooding being reported is not affecting your part of Texas?
Thanks for asking, no it's not affecting where I live about 45 minutes north of Houston. We've had our share in the past though and my heart goes out to them all. Even aside from the tragic loss of life, it takes a long time to recover from serious flooding. Again, I appreciate you asking though :aok:

[CapitalGreen]

Not a new name but I see Alfarela is being linked with an exit from Legia again. According to the press in Poland over the weekend - Alfarela wants to play as a central striker but the new manager considers him a wide player and as such they expect him to leave this window. Another report thinks they’d sell for less than €1m.

https://www.goal.pl/transfery/co-dalej-z-alfarela-wszystko-zmierza-w-tym-kierunku-nasz-news/

The author of the goal.pl article tweeted that “something interesting is happening [in regards to Alfarela] and soon” (Grok translate from Polish) - https://x.com/uefacompiotrk/status/1941587978674909562?s=46&t=brEurjABCqnZmqhpqvZvEA

https://legia.net/news/alfarela-odejdzie-z-legii/100398

https://sportowy.net/2025/07/06/migouel-alfarela-i-legia-co-dalej/

[bingo70]

Not a new name but I see Alfarela is being linked with an exit from Legia again. According to the press in Poland over the weekend - Alfarela wants to play as a central striker but the new manager considers him a wide player and as such they expect him to leave this window. Another report thinks they’d sell for less than €1m.

https://www.goal.pl/transfery/co-dalej-z-alfarela-wszystko-zmierza-w-tym-kierunku-nasz-news/

The author of the goal.pl article tweeted that “something interesting is happening [in regards to Alfarela] and soon” (Grok translate from Polish) - https://x.com/uefacompiotrk/status/1941587978674909562?s=46&t=brEurjABCqnZmqhpqvZvEA

https://legia.net/news/alfarela-odejdzie-z-legii/100398

https://sportowy.net/2025/07/06/migouel-alfarela-i-legia-co-dalej/

Good work CG.

I like the look of this guy.

Part of me does wonder though if a player complaining about his position is likely to be the type of player SDG wants at the club but I suppose it depends on how it’s been done. He’s just had a really successful loan spell playing as a striker, if he’s now being told he won’t play up front for parent club, I can understand why he may want to get a move elsewhere and I don’t think this necessarily makes him a bad egg.

[Lago]

Thanks for asking, no it's not affecting where I live about 45 minutes north of Houston. We've had our share in the past though and my heart goes out to them all. Even aside from the tragic loss of life, it takes a long time to recover from serious flooding. Again, I appreciate you asking though :aok:
That's OK just the thought of those young girls and others, as a father and grandfather my heart goes out to them along with devestation to people's homes. ��

[tonyrougier123]

Not a new name but I see Alfarela is being linked with an exit from Legia again. According to the press in Poland over the weekend - Alfarela wants to play as a central striker but the new manager considers him a wide player and as such they expect him to leave this window. Another report thinks they’d sell for less than €1m.

https://www.goal.pl/transfery/co-dalej-z-alfarela-wszystko-zmierza-w-tym-kierunku-nasz-news/

The author of the goal.pl article tweeted that “something interesting is happening [in regards to Alfarela] and soon” (Grok translate from Polish) - https://x.com/uefacompiotrk/status/1941587978674909562?s=46&t=brEurjABCqnZmqhpqvZvEA

https://legia.net/news/alfarela-odejdzie-z-legii/100398

https://sportowy.net/2025/07/06/migouel-alfarela-i-legia-co-dalej/
Like your dedication to finding info 😁.
Looks a quick player wee bit Boyle Esq. the two would probably be dynamite if that boys highlights aren’t sped up. Not one for clip scouting but this guy looks to have something.

[JasonC1875]

Like your dedication to finding info 😁.
Looks a quick player wee bit Boyle Esq. the two would probably be dynamite if that boys highlights aren’t sped up. Not one for clip scouting but this guy looks to have something.

Sounds it too going by his current manager seeing him as a wide player. Bringing him and a taller, more physical option in up top would be ideal

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Better than the hibby-aye-ok AI chat suggestions.

Agreed. Mental chat.

[Donegal Hibby]

Like your dedication to finding info 😁.
Looks a quick player wee bit Boyle Esq. the two would probably be dynamite if that boys highlights aren’t sped up. Not one for clip scouting but this guy looks to have something.

Is a player a wee bit Boyle Esq really what we need ? And would Hibs be willing to pay a lot of money on a player hitting his peak that’s value will probably drop in a few years?

[04Sauzee]

Is a player a wee bit Boyle Esq really what we need ? And would Hibs be willing to pay a lot of money on a player hitting his peak that’s value will probably drop in a few years?

Is a player similar to the one who was one of the top scorers in the top flight the kind of player we need?

I'm not sure why it wouldn't be tbh.

[Stuart93]

Is a player a wee bit Boyle Esq really what we need ? And would Hibs be willing to pay a lot of money on a player hitting his peak that’s value will probably drop in a few years?

Why would we not want to pay money for a player hitting their peak?

Not every player can be a project player we’re looking to sell on

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

I wonder the impact to Aberdeen of all these players and the requirement to have home grown contingent. 🤔

[Northernhibee]

Is a player a wee bit Boyle Esq really what we need ? And would Hibs be willing to pay a lot of money on a player hitting his peak that’s value will probably drop in a few years?

If this ends up being Boyle’s last season with us then it makes sense to have his replacement in the door.

[Donegal Hibby]

Is a player similar to the one who was one of the top scorers in the top flight the kind of player we need?

I'm not sure why it wouldn't be tbh.

Mainly because he doesn’t give us something different if he’s similar to Boyle . I just thought Gray would be looking for a forward that was big , good in the air that had a physical presence


Why would we not want to pay money for a player hitting their peak?

Not every player can be a project player we’re looking to sell on

That’s true but near a million quid is serious money for a club like Hibs to spend on a player that’s value is likely to decrease in two or three years time . Bowie and our attempt to sign Triantis because of their age / potential I can understand , not so much Alfarela also for reasons above .

[bingo70]

Mainly because he doesn’t give us something different if he’s similar to Boyle . I just thought Gray would be looking for a forward that was big , good in the air that had a physical presence



That’s true but near a million quid is serious money for a club like Hibs to spend on a player that’s value is likely to decrease in two or three years time . Bowie and our attempt to sign Triantis because of their age / potential I can understand , not so much Alfarela also for reasons above .

Big, good in the air and a physical presence is Bowie.

From what I can see about this guy is he’s probably a number 10 and will be good at linking play and creating something out of nothing. There’ll be games that could be really useful.

Doesn’t look like the same sort of player as Boyle to me I don’t think.

[eastmainsmsh]

Wonder if Kenny at celtic is worth a punt bolton bid for him last week

[1875Sean]

Wonder if Kenny at celtic is worth a punt bolton bid for him last week

Sure I read Celtic want over a million for him so we can rule that out

[Wilson]

Wonder if Kenny at celtic is worth a punt bolton bid for him last week

He isn't. Overpriced.

[Big_Franck]

He isn't. Overpriced.

Absolutely. I've seen nothing from him to suggest he's worth anywhere near what Celtic want for him.

[04Sauzee]

Wonder if Kenny at celtic is worth a punt bolton bid for him last week

Turned down £500k and looking for £1m according to reports .

I was keen to have him at Hibs but not at that price 😬

[Donegal Hibby]

Big, good in the air and a physical presence is Bowie.

From what I can see about this guy is he’s probably a number 10 and will be good at linking play and creating something out of nothing. There’ll be games that could be really useful.

Doesn’t look like the same sort of player as Boyle to me I don’t think.

I agree about Bowie having a physical presence but I haven’t really seen the ‘ good in the air ‘ side of his game since he signed to say that is one of his attributes.

Another thing is if we signed this guy and lost Bowie to injury that would leave us Alfarela , Boyle and Youan upfront which I don’t think really have a physical presence or are particularly good in the air . I’m not against the idea of signing this guy by any means but do wonder if a target man might be more a priority for Gray especially with the crosses from Nicky Cadden .

You do make a good point about linking play and creating something out of nothing so I’m probably wrong again on
this :greengrin

[Donegal Hibby]

Turned down £500k and looking for £1m according to reports .

I was keen to have him at Hibs but not at that price ��

The rumours are that a few clubs have enquired about taking him on loan now which Celtic are said to be considering.

[Silky]

Wonder if Kenny at celtic is worth a punt bolton bid for him last week

Surely our scouting network can extend wider than Glasgow. There must be better, cheaper, more experiences strikers out there. Absolutely no where near worth what Celtic are asking.

[Gordy M]

See the EEN are saying we have expressed an interest in Scott McKenna, along with the old firm, however wages will be an issue.

[Since452]

See the EEN are saying we have expressed an interest in Scott McKenna, along with the old firm, however wages will be an issue.

He'd be a tremendous signing but out of our reach I'd have thought.

[Unseen work]

See the EEN are saying we have expressed an interest in Scott McKenna, along with the old firm, however wages will be an issue.

Whilst we’re at I’d like to express an interest in Sydney Sweeney

[MacGruber]

Surely our scouting network can extend wider than Glasgow. There must be better, cheaper, more experiences strikers out there. Absolutely no where near worth what Celtic are asking.

Tbf we had scouted him in Ireland before his Celtic move, he was coming here before Celtic gazumped us. Agree though, hasn't proven anything to be worth anywhere near what they are asking. Need to look elsewhere

[Joe6-2]

Callum Wilson leaving Newcastle

[cabbageandribs1875]

I don’t know the details but is this not what a lot of the big clubs do to somehow get round financial fair play regulations?


Chelsea seem to be a law unto themselves…

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13392443/chelsea-and-aston-villa-fined-27m-and-9-5m-respectively-by-uefa-for-breaching-financial-rules


Erling Haaland signed a contract earlier this year that keeps him at City until 2034.


I saw a program on Sky where one of their directors was being interviewed. He said their strategy is to pay comparatively less wages on a weekly basis but offer long-term contracts to players for stability.
It also ensures that less players will leave for free during the peak years of their career.


lot more common now, his value of. 48.5m gets depreciated over 7 years so he is only 48.5/7 cost to them per year.

as for where the money is coming they sold there womens team to themselves for over |£200m


thanks for all the explanations folks :aok:

[04Sauzee]

Kilmarnock sign striker Djenairo Daniels

I bet he's magic

[Kato]

Kilmarnock sign striker Djenairo Daniels

I bet he's magicYeah, but not a lot.











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[bingo70]

See the EEN are saying we have expressed an interest in Scott McKenna, along with the old firm, however wages will be an issue.

Now that’s a signing that would make no sense.

Left footed centre half so would need to play in Iredales or Rocky’s position. The only way that would work is if Rocky moved across to RCB but I can’t see that happening.

[Souter96Mac]

Callum Wilson leaving Newcastle

Probably v unlikely we'd have a chance, but he'd be some signing. Again, an ex Bournemouth player..Black Knights?

Watch him sign for the Huns..

[Donegal Hibby]

Probably v unlikely we'd have a chance, but he'd be some signing. Again, an ex Bournemouth player..Black Knights?

Watch him sign for the Huns..

Everton rumoured to be interested in him and Newcastle with…

https://talksport.com/football/3353567/dominic-calvert-lewin-next-club-free-transfer/

[badabing67]

Probably v unlikely we'd have a chance, but he'd be some signing. Again, an ex Bournemouth player..Black Knights?

Watch him sign for the Huns..

Are Leeds not interested

[Unseen work]

Interesting the lad Aberdeen signed from Sunderland was at Lorient recently.

Bit surprised it’s not one we’ve went for as he’s meant to be really highly rated and is someone Black Knights/Garvan Stewart would be well aware of

[EGL2000]

Interesting the lad Aberdeen signed from Sunderland was at Lorient recently.

Bit surprised it’s not one we’ve went for as he’s meant to be really highly rated and is someone Black Knights/Garvan Stewart would be well aware of

I thought the same would definitely have been known to the group. I think we would have probably passed due to already being well stocked in that area. Imagine he will be on a hefty wage as well even if just a proportion of it. Looks a good player though!

[NAE NOOKIE]

Absolutely. I've seen nothing from him to suggest he's worth anywhere near what Celtic want for him.

2022 ..... Queens Park ( loan ) 12 games 0 goals
2023 .... Shamrock Rovers ( loan ) 30 games 5 goals
2024 ..... Shamrock Rovers ( loan ) 29 games 13 goals

Celtic ... 7 first team appearances 1 goal.

It's not bad and I'm sure he certainly has promise.......... but it sure as hell doesn't make him a million quid player.

[SHODAN]

McKenna wouldn't come to us and we don't even need a centre back.

[Donegal Hibby]

2022 ..... Queens Park ( loan ) 12 games 0 goals
2023 .... Shamrock Rovers ( loan ) 30 games 5 goals
2024 ..... Shamrock Rovers ( loan ) 29 games 13 goals

Celtic ... 7 first team appearances 1 goal.

It's not bad and I'm sure he certainly has promise.......... but it sure as hell doesn't make him a million quid player.

I really rate this guy . The lads a goal scorer with a lot of potential to get better . I’d probably put his value around about £500k though into day’s market if Hale is valued at £1mil then maybe that valuation isn’t as mad as it sounds. I think it’s just as likely he’ll go out on loan as some clubs have enquired about taking him on loan . I wouldn’t be against the idea of us taking him on loan either…

https://youtu.be/YDWaH4MC1Qs?si=29ZSmhlHYrIezbAe

[B.H.F.C]

McKenna wouldn't come to us and we don't even need a centre back.

I don’t think our centre back options will be the same come the end of the window. I think we will look to improve, more on the right hand side though.

Similar to the goalkeeping position, we didn’t need to spend big fee on a goalie but we did. With Hoilett and Campbell, we probably didn’t need to sign McGrath but we did. There is always improvement to be had.

[B.H.F.C]

I really rate this guy . The lads a goal scorer with a lot of potential to get better . I’d probably put his value around about £500k though into day’s market if Hale is valued at £1mil then maybe that valuation isn’t as mad as it sounds. I think it’s just as likely he’ll go out on loan as some clubs have enquired about taking him on loan . I wouldn’t be against the idea of us taking him on loan either…

https://youtu.be/YDWaH4MC1Qs?si=29ZSmhlHYrIezbAe

Nobody is paying £1m for Ronan Hale. Kenny’s value is higher because he’s at Celtic, that’s about it .

[EGL2000]

2022 ..... Queens Park ( loan ) 12 games 0 goals
2023 .... Shamrock Rovers ( loan ) 30 games 5 goals
2024 ..... Shamrock Rovers ( loan ) 29 games 13 goals

Celtic ... 7 first team appearances 1 goal.

It's not bad and I'm sure he certainly has promise.......... but it sure as hell doesn't make him a million quid player.

He's already proved he can score goals in European competition which I think does boost his value up. A lot of the teams who would potentially be looking at him would be teams looks to play Conference league football so makes sense. I think he's a player who's got a really good amount of potential but I don't think we will be spending money on him.

He is one of those players though where if you did want him you would most likely need to act now. If he moves on and has one good season he's probably instantly out of our budget.

[Cabbage-Patch]

See the EEN are saying we have expressed an interest in Scott McKenna, along with the old firm, however wages will be an issue.

Incredible signing if true. Can see him going to the huns though. Massive upgrade on Ekpiteta and OHora

Back 3 of Rocky Mckenna and Iredale would be tremendous

[NAE NOOKIE]

He's already proved he can score goals in European competition which I think does boost his value up. A lot of the teams who would potentially be looking at him would be teams looks to play Conference league football so makes sense. I think he's a player who's got a really good amount of potential but I don't think we will be spending money on him.

He is one of those players though where if you did want him you would most likely need to act now. If he moves on and has one good season he's probably instantly out of our budget.

To be honest what's boosted his value is the fact he's on Celtic's books, which for some reason seems to double a players value before they have even kicked a ball. If that record I highlighted in my previous post was with Hibs or Aberdeen you may ( may ) be talking about £500,000 certainly not £1,000,000 plus.

If Hibs were interested I certainly wouldn't want to see us blowing a million quid on him, not when at least 40% of that would be the Celtic premium. A loan with an option to buy maybe, but that's as far as we should go if we do have an interest.

[SChibs]

McKenna wouldn't come to us and we don't even need a centre back.

We'll probably lose Rocky and Obita to the AFCON for a while so we will need more options

[Aldo]

To be honest what's boosted his value is the fact he's on Celtic's books, which for some reason seems to double a players value before they have even kicked a ball. If that record I highlighted in my previous post was with Hibs or Aberdeen you may ( may ) be talking about £500,000 certainly not £1,000,000 plus.

If Hibs were interested I certainly wouldn't want to see us blowing a million quid on him, not when at least 40% of that would be the Celtic premium. A loan with an option to buy maybe, but that's as far as we should go if we do have an interest.

We’d be better paying for Migouel Alfarela as he looks far better than Kenny!

[Unseen work]

We'll probably lose Rocky and Obita to the AFCON for a while so we will need more options

We do, but it won’t be McKenna.

There is absolutely zero chance he comes here. Top end championship teams will want him, probably interest all around Europe and then there’s the old firm and Aberdeen who would probably want and get him ahead of us

He will demand an absolutely massive wage and one we won’t be able to compete with

[badabing67]

2022 ..... Queens Park ( loan ) 12 games 0 goals
2023 .... Shamrock Rovers ( loan ) 30 games 5 goals
2024 ..... Shamrock Rovers ( loan ) 29 games 13 goals

Celtic ... 7 first team appearances 1 goal.

It's not bad and I'm sure he certainly has promise.......... but it sure as hell doesn't make him a million quid player.

Yeah and he is ***** at penalties :grr:

[Thatdayinmay16]

McKenna wouldn't come to us and we don't even need a centre back.

If the Rumours about Ekpiteta being moved on then another Centre back is desperately needed.

He was rumoured to be on 5k a week at Las Palmas, so I'd assume we could afford the wages he would require. (Just realised this is way off) Could still chuck 10k a week at him see if he fancies it though.

Would take in a heartbeat.

[Thatdayinmay16]

2022 ..... Queens Park ( loan ) 12 games 0 goals
2023 .... Shamrock Rovers ( loan ) 30 games 5 goals
2024 ..... Shamrock Rovers ( loan ) 29 games 13 goals

Celtic ... 7 first team appearances 1 goal.

It's not bad and I'm sure he certainly has promise.......... but it sure as hell doesn't make him a million quid player.

He isn't worth a million but then again Kuhn isn't worth the so called 15 million that's being touted for him either.

[Hibernian Verse]

If the Rumours about Ekpiteta being moved on then another Centre back is desperately needed.

He was rumoured to be on 5k a week at Las Palmas, so I'd assume we could afford the wages he would require. (Just realised this is way off) Could still chuck 10k a week at him see if he fancies it though.

Would take in a heartbeat.

There's no way McKenna is only on 5k a week.

[Thatdayinmay16]

There's no way McKenna is only on 5k a week.

Edited my op, turns out its closer to 35k:dizzy:

As mentioned, could see if he is willing to take 10-12k which I imagine is our highest. Can only ask the question.

[CentreForward]

If the Rumours about Ekpiteta being moved on then another Centre back is desperately needed.

He was rumoured to be on 5k a week at Las Palmas, so I'd assume we could afford the wages he would require. (Just realised this is way off) Could still chuck 10k a week at him see if he fancies it though.

Would take in a heartbeat.


Haven’t heard any rumours about Ekpiteta being moved though wouldn’t necessarily be that surprising. Suspect if the Old Firm are seriously in the race for McKenna then we would have absolutely no chance.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Haven’t heard any rumours about Ekpiteta being moved though wouldn’t necessarily be that surprising. Suspect if the Old Firm are seriously in the race for McKenna then we would have absolutely no chance.

There's apparently been some chatter that we could look to if we can find a better replacement, how true this is I have no idea.

[JimBHibees]

We’d be better paying for Migouel Alfarela as he looks far better than Kenny!

Wasn’t hugely impressed with Kenny in the Scottish cup final though may have been the general frustration with Celtics performance. Not seen much of him though know we were linked with him previously

[04Sauzee]

Moussa Soumano completes move to NAC Breda as Aberdeen miss out on French striker

[Ronniekirk]

Interesting the lad Aberdeen signed from Sunderland was at Lorient recently.

Bit surprised it’s not one we’ve went for as he’s meant to be really highly rated and is someone Black Knights/Garvan Stewart would be well aware of

You can’t underestimate the impact of Aberdeen having guaranteed Group stage European Football
Plus they have had extra investment so wage wise will be able to offer more than us
David Gray has already said we are operating on plan B Plan A was group stage European football guaranteed

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

You can’t underestimate the impact of Aberdeen having guaranteed Group stage European Football
Plus they have had extra investment so wage wise will be able to offer more than us
David Gray has already said we are operating on plan B Plan A was group stage European football guaranteed

Aberdeen are also operating at a loss in the hope that their recruitment pays dividends. Big risk in that.

[04Sauzee]

All without Jamestown



🚨 Excl: Motherwell close in on New Zealand international winger Elijah Just

⬇️

mhendry.substack.com/p/exclusive-mo…

[Tully]

Any rumours from hibs seems very quiet

[Haymaker]

:hyper

[BlackSheep]

:hyper

Spill.

[Eyrie]

Wasn’t hugely impressed with Kenny in the Scottish cup final though may have been the general frustration with Celtics performance. Not seen much of him though know we were linked with him previously

I think we tried to sign him before he went to Celtc.

[Since452]

The Porteous rumours have gone quiet. Suppose Rocky was our priority.

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

A few guys over here in Poland think Alfarela is a decent player but just not been given a chance.

[Lago]

Any rumours from hibs seems very quiet
Slow news day re Hibs transfers, in fact slow news week.

[flash]

A few guys over here in Poland think Alfarela is a decent player but just not been given a chance.

Legia twitter seems pretty unanimous that he will probably leave this summer.

Whether it's to us is another matter entirely.

[Unseen work]

Alfarela would be an interesting one

Sure I read they wanted 1 million for him, would we spend that much when we already have Boyle and Bowie?

Maybe if we sell Youan

[04Sauzee]

Alfarela would be an interesting one

Sure I read they wanted 1 million for him, would we spend that much when we already have Boyle and Bowie?

Maybe if we sell Youan

Watched some footage of him yesterday and from what was available he looks quite pacy, scored some decent goals, link up play looked good and doesn't mind running with the ball and taking players on

Not sure what he's worth or what we'd pay but he definitely looks a player.

[04Sauzee]

Aaron Connolly has signed for league 1 side Leyton Orient.

I'm surprised he hasn't got a bigger team than that tbh.

[Paul1642]

The Porteous rumours have gone quiet. Suppose Rocky was our priority.

Very quiet on the rumour from regarding him but there’s a real lack of rumours in general which is probably testament to the club cracking right down on this.

As far as Porto goes, I think it’s still quite likely he will leave Watford this summer and so far no movement there so it’s still a possibility. I don’t think it’s a position we need to strengthen but he’s a good enough player that id still be delighted with the move.

[AgentDaleCooper]

:hyper

is it really happening...? :hyper

[Souter96Mac]

The team's away on the "mini" training camp down south this weekend, then playing Bournemouth next week.

It'd be ideal to have 2 in this week ahead of that - ideally Triantis & a striker.

[Stevie Reid]

Edited my op, turns out its closer to 35k:dizzy:

As mentioned, could see if he is willing to take 10-12k which I imagine is our highest. Can only ask the question.

I wouldn’t want Hibs spending that kind of wage on any kind of central defender, unless we were somehow talking about someone with Sauzee’s attacking attributes.

If we’re paying those kind of wages I’d want it to be on someone who can create and score goals. Though I don’t think for one second that we are seriously in for McKenna in any case.

[Jim44]

Very quiet on the rumour from regarding him but there’s a real lack of rumours in general which is probably testament to the club cracking right down on this.

As far as Porto goes, I think it’s still quite likely he will leave Watford this summer and so far no movement there so it’s still a possibility. I don’t think it’s a position we need to strengthen but he’s a good enough player that id still be delighted with the move.

Part of me says it would be good to have him back, on condition that our improved defence can cope with the frequent defensive errors he is prone to commit.

[MacGruber]

We are in a great position of only having to add a couple of players to what we had last season but what a turnaround from the party line even up to the January window that it was this summer that was the big squad rebuild.

[flash]

Part of me says it would be good to have him back, on condition that our improved defence can cope with the frequent defensive errors he is prone to commit.

He was comfortably our best defender for a considerable period of time.

[tonyrougier123]

Part of me says it would be good to have him back, on condition that our improved defence can cope with the frequent defensive errors he is prone to commit.

Porteous whilst being a good hibby doesn’t seem to have kicked on which means we’d know exactly what we are getting, the good and the bad. Think the defence is pretty much good to go, your thinking if porto comes in either Ekpiteta or O’Hora would find themselves on the periphery.

[Winston Ingram]

Aaron Connolly has signed for league 1 side Leyton Orient.

I'm surprised he hasn't got a bigger team than that tbh.

He’s struggled for a few years now.

[badabing67]

Alfarela would be an interesting one

Sure I read they wanted 1 million for him, would we spend that much when we already have Boyle and Bowie?

Maybe if we sell Youan


I hope we don't sell Elie you can see he has been working hard and looks up for it imo

[BILLYHIBS]

I hope we don't sell Elie you can see he has been working hard and looks up for it imo

Yip hoping for a big season if he can stay injury free

Looks up for it you can see he is trying

Over to you Elie

[Northernhibee]

He was comfortably our best defender for a considerable period of time.

Porteous with his ego in check was absolutely the best defender we had, but if allowed to become Billy big baws he could also be a liability and very error prone.

If he were to come here then he’d need to have a good look in the mirror and make sure that he’s prepared to keep his head down and do the basics well as if not, there’s every chance he’ll be playing for a St Johnstone or a Falkirk in a few years time and that’d be a massive waste of the potential he had.

SDG is probably the best manager he could hope for to guide him but he’s got to waken up to see how much of a crossroads he’s at in his career.

[Stuart93]

I think if we swap Ekpiteta for Porteous (as in one out one in) it would be incredible business by us

[04Sauzee]

This is where we picked Gayle up from last season

https://i.ibb.co/JDMgMnm/20250707-205110.jpg (https://ibb.co/jn1s1hb)

[H18 SFR]

This is where we picked Gayle up from last season

https://i.ibb.co/JDMgMnm/20250707-205110.jpg (https://ibb.co/jn1s1hb)

Can’t believe Sam Cosgrove is only 28!

[Smartie]

This is where we picked Gayle up from last season

https://i.ibb.co/JDMgMnm/20250707-205110.jpg (https://ibb.co/jn1s1hb)

A few familiar names in there.

[04Sauzee]

Surprised John Swift hasn't got himself a club?

[bingo70]

A few familiar names in there.

I always thought Sam Cosgrove was really ***** but having someone like him bundling the ball home from Caddens crosses could work really well.

[04Sauzee]

I always thought Sam Cosgrove was really ***** but having someone like him bundling the ball home from Caddens crosses could work really well.

His goalscoring record has been incredibly poor since leaving Aberdeen

1 goal in 29 last season
6 in 40 the season before that

He did score 12 in 43 in league 1 in 22/23
But 3 in 37 the season prior to that

[Jones28]

This is where we picked Gayle up from last season

https://i.ibb.co/JDMgMnm/20250707-205110.jpg (https://ibb.co/jn1s1hb)

A few names in there I wouldn’t want us to touch and the remainder are ones I don’t know.

[itslegaltender]

A few familiar names in there.

Tom Davies could be interesting for Hibs.

[bingo70]

Tom Davies could be interesting for Hibs.

It’s not the Tom Davies most folk have probably heard of, he’s under contract at Sheffield United.

There’s another one that’s been at Newport County. Suspect it must be him.

[itslegaltender]

It’s not the Tom Davies most folk have probably heard of, he’s under contract at Sheffield United.

There’s another one that’s been at Newport County. Suspect it must be him.

yeah, think you are right.

[badabing67]

This is where we picked Gayle up from last season

https://i.ibb.co/JDMgMnm/20250707-205110.jpg (https://ibb.co/jn1s1hb)

I thought it was because he was m8's with Newell at Peterborough

[NAE NOOKIE]

:hyper

:hyper :hyper

[Donegal Hibby]

Newcastle have £55mil bid accepted for Nottingham Forest winger Anthony Elanga ..

Gordon , Isak and Elanga would be a good forward line for the magpies.

[04Sauzee]

I thought it was because he was m8's with Newell at Peterborough

They definitely knew each other and I believe Newell spoke to him but he was definitely at the event last season

Dwight Gayle among ex-Stoke City trio searching for end to transfer limbo at PFA free agent camp - Stoke-on-Trent Live https://share.google/PiRMPJCy1TfPkwNGC

[NAE NOOKIE]

They definitely knew each other and I believe Newell spoke to him but he was definitely at the event last season

Dwight Gayle among ex-Stoke City trio searching for end to transfer limbo at PFA free agent camp - Stoke-on-Trent Live https://share.google/PiRMPJCy1TfPkwNGC

Eh? ...... I thought he had hung his boots up :confused:

[04Sauzee]

Eh? ...... I thought he had hung his boots up :confused:

Apologies this was last year's one where he was at the PFA camp before signing for Hibs.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Apologies this was last year's one where he was at the PFA camp before signing for Hibs.

:aok:

[EGL2000]

This is where we picked Gayle up from last season

https://i.ibb.co/JDMgMnm/20250707-205110.jpg (https://ibb.co/jn1s1hb)

Pretty poor standard throughout. Only one who would even tempt me is John Swift. A good amount of them didn't cut it in league 2 last season.

[Cabbage-Patch]

A few familiar names in there.

Had a look at Cosgroves career since he left the sheep. 6 clubs 3 loans and 15 goals in 5 years. Ouch

[Spudster]

Had a look at Cosgroves career since he left the sheep. 6 clubs 3 loans and 15 goals in 5 years. Ouch

His record pre aberdeen was horrific too. 1 career goal!
Maybe suits the Scottish game?

[worcesterhibby]

His record pre aberdeen was horrific too. 1 career goal!
Maybe suits the Scottish game?

A mate of mine went to school with him in Northwich, he wasn’t even the best player in his year, my mate was convinced he was on performance enhancing drugs at Aberdeen ! :greengrin

[NAE NOOKIE]

Had a look at Cosgroves career since he left the sheep. 6 clubs 3 loans and 15 goals in 5 years. Ouch

Sounds like we would be better signing Stuart Cosgrove :greengrin

[Hibee Mac]

https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/peterborough-united-linked-with-a-move-for-young-bournemouth-defender-5210711

Owen Bevan linked with Peterborough.If we have any sense in our transfer department we'll be staying well away from players who can't stay fit for longer than a week

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[Paulie Walnuts]

He was comfortably our best defender for a considerable period of time.

Not for me. He’s got better in people’s minds the longer he’s been gone imo.

His season that everyone raves about saw him dropped for multiple games at two different stages of the season. By the time the cup final rolled round there was an almost unanimous feeling that he’d been so poor that McGregor had to start ahead of him. On the POTY threads on here there was absolutely no mentions of him whatsoever, other than one where someone suggested Paul McGinn deserved it for how well he’d performed considering he had to deal with Porteous playing inside him. That’s not the sign of someone who was all that great imo.

The next season he was constantly suspended because he couldn’t stop acting like an idiot and by the end of his time here there was an almost unanimous feeling that he had to be taken out the team because his performances were so poor as well.

[PortoHSC]

Could do with another fabrizio Romano rumour, need a wee link to liven up the week

[Lago]

Newcastle have £55mil bid accepted for Nottingham Forest winger Anthony Elanga ..

Gordon , Isak and Elanga would be a good forward line for the magpies.
Elanga is a terrific player.

[Donegal Hibby]

Elanga is a terrific player.

Eddie Howe’s been after him for a while now though I thought they might lose out to one of the other top teams but it seems like it’s nearly done with a five year deal being reported.

[Haymaker]

:hyper :hyper

Firm agree.

[Aldo]

Not for me. He’s got better in people’s minds the longer he’s been gone imo.

His season that everyone raves about saw him dropped for multiple games at two different stages of the season. By the time the cup final rolled round there was an almost unanimous feeling that he’d been so poor that McGregor had to start ahead of him. On the POTY threads on here there was absolutely no mentions of him whatsoever, other than one where someone suggested Paul McGinn deserved it for how well he’d performed considering he had to deal with Porteous playing inside him. That’s not the sign of someone who was all that great imo.

The next season he was constantly suspended because he couldn’t stop acting like an idiot and by the end of his time here there was an almost unanimous feeling that he had to be taken out the team because his performances were so poor as well.

Surely players can change?

[Northernhibee]

Surely players can change?

The problem is that Porteous doesn’t seem to change - the same rash tackles, the same brainfart decision making.

He was an outstanding prospect when he broke through but he’s come nowhere near what he could and should have been.

[Aldo]

The problem is that Porteous doesn’t seem to change - the same rash tackles, the same brainfart decision making.

He was an outstanding prospect when he broke through but he’s come nowhere near what he could and should have been.

Maybe SDG can get the best out of him?

As for brain fart decisions I think most of our players at one point or another have made decisions like that and will continue to do so.

[gorgie greens]

Maybe SDG can get the best out of him?

As for brain fart decisions I think most of our players at one point or another have made decisions like that and will continue to do so.

Definitely comes in to the no ******** category.
Someone on twitter saying Triantis is holding out for a deal with Celtic.

[Trinity Hibee]

Definitely comes in to the no ******** category.
Someone on twitter saying Triantis is holding out for a deal with Celtic.

Would he get a game at Celtic? I know that hasn’t stopped them before.

[Aldo]

Definitely comes in to the no ******** category.
Someone on twitter saying Triantis is holding out for a deal with Celtic.

Good luck to the guy whatever decision he makes. He does however know that he’s pretty much a guaranteed starter at ER every week and I think we would be a pretty decent place (green tinted specs firmly on) to showcase his talents.

[Trinity Hibee]

Good luck to the guy whatever decision he makes. He does however know that he’s pretty much a guaranteed starter at ER every week and I think we would be a pretty decent place (green tinted specs firmly on) to showcase his talents.

Agree with this. I really hope he comes back either permanent or loan but if he doesn’t he put in a great shift last season.

[04Sauzee]

Definitely comes in to the no ******** category.
Someone on twitter saying Triantis is holding out for a deal with Celtic.

A guy called Jimmy Jungas on twitter

Doesn't seem like he's had many bites

[JohnM1875]

A guy called Jimmy Jungas on twitter

Doesn't seem like he's had many bites

He’ll be taking the piss cause of McCowan last summer.

[500miles]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Triantis does a week with Sunderland as a midfielder rather than a centre half so that his manager gets a look, they have a discussion, and then he makes his move either way.

[JasonC1875]

A guy called Jimmy Jungas on twitter

Doesn't seem like he's had many bites

He’s also tweeted about them signing Lennon Miller and Cerny in the last day or so, best ignored.

[theonlywayisup]

Kyle McClelland is set to remain in Northern Ireland by signing for Glenavon after the 23-year-old defender was released by Hibernian following his loan to Coleraine.

Hadn't realised that he had been released by Hibernian. Odd signing!

[gorgie greens]

He’s also tweeted about them signing Lennon Miller and Cerny in the last day or so, best ignored.

Don't follow the guy so haven't seen any of his other stuff ,would be surprised if either of the Glasgow arse cheeks Don't go for him as he stood out last season for us.
Rather he stays at Sunderland than go to them.

[JasonC1875]

Don't follow the guy so haven't seen any of his other stuff ,would be surprised if either of the Glasgow arse cheeks Don't go for him as he stood out last season for us.
Rather he stays at Sunderland than go to them.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Celtic were sniffing about, I just don’t think that particular account actually has any intel

[Northernhibee]

Maybe SDG can get the best out of him?

As for brain fart decisions I think most of our players at one point or another have made decisions like that and will continue to do so.

The problem is that he seems to have an awful lot more of them than he should.

I seen him described on one of the Watford forums along the lines of “one of the stupidest players they’ve had” and given his recent performances for the national team (straight red card and then got away with what should have been a straight red), I’m not shocked.


That’s why I say that he absolutely needs to eat a cement mixer of humble pie (to borrow a phrase from the Thick of It) and show that he’s ditched the ego, the ****housery, and the hard man stuff before we even consider him. If he can get back to the basics and discipline of being a central defender then absolutely let’s go for a loan of him but if it’s same old, then it’s “not with a barge pole” for me.

What turned Rocky into a great defender this season was discipline and level headedness. He still had a couple of brain farts but you get the feeling he learns from them nowadays.

[MacGruber]

Be interesting to see how MacEntee gets on at Hearts, see McInnes singing his praises for the pre-season games. This is the guy we had looked at months before them and the reaction on here to the potential signing was largely negative given the Walsall fans opinions. Ultimately we decided he wasn't an improvement on what we had - that's not to say he won't improve Hearts, they aren't at out level.

[Aldo]

The problem is that he seems to have an awful lot more of them than he should.

I seen him described on one of the Watford forums along the lines of “one of the stupidest players they’ve had” and given his recent performances for the national team (straight red card and then got away with what should have been a straight red), I’m not shocked.


That’s why I say that he absolutely needs to eat a cement mixer of humble pie (to borrow a phrase from the Thick of It) and show that he’s ditched the ego, the ****housery, and the hard man stuff before we even consider him. If he can get back to the basics and discipline of being a central defender then absolutely let’s go for a loan of him but if it’s same old, then it’s “not with a barge pole” for me.

What turned Rocky into a great defender this season was discipline and level headedness. He still had a couple of brain farts but you get the feeling he learns from them nowadays.

It really is so easy to look at the negatives in a player rather than the positives. Yes he’s been rash, yes he’s been daft and at times rash but I’d rather have him in my starting 11 than O’Hora. And btw I think O’Hora has been good for us when he has been asked to step in.

You’ve mentioned Rocky. He had 2.5 seasons of them and tbh still makes them however when a team is winning they seem to be looked over as do most players mistakes or brain farts.

I do think Rocky deserved his new contract and is crucial to the team.

For me Porteous is a no brainer and has more positives than negatives.

As I said I think SDG would get the best out of him.

All about opinions!

[Heisenberg]

Triantis going to Celtic doesn’t really tick any of the boxes his agent was going on about towards the end of last season.

[chippy]

It wouldn’t surprise me if Celtic were sniffing about, I just don’t think that particular account actually has any intel

Yep i think they might see him as a replacement for Calum McGregor

[BS44]

The problem is that he seems to have an awful lot more of them than he should.

I seen him described on one of the Watford forums along the lines of “one of the stupidest players they’ve had” and given his recent performances for the national team (straight red card and then got away with what should have been a straight red), I’m not shocked.


That’s why I say that he absolutely needs to eat a cement mixer of humble pie (to borrow a phrase from the Thick of It) and show that he’s ditched the ego, the ****housery, and the hard man stuff before we even consider him. If he can get back to the basics and discipline of being a central defender then absolutely let’s go for a loan of him but if it’s same old, then it’s “not with a barge pole” for me.

What turned Rocky into a great defender this season was discipline and level headedness. He still had a couple of brain farts but you get the feeling he learns from them nowadays.

I find it quite surprising that one of our own, who has played 87 games in the English Championship, is not considered up to scratch for the Hibees. I hear the point about his disciplinary record. However it does not stand up to scrutiny as he has never been sent off down there, and gets a booking in only one in every three games.

[Hibernian Verse]

Yep i think they might see him as a replacement for Calum McGregor

McGregor is on another planet to Triantis.

[flash]

Yep i think they might see him as a replacement for Calum McGregor

They are completely different styles of player surely.

[Smartie]

I find it quite surprising that one of our own, who has played 87 games in the English Championship, is not considered up to scratch for the Hibees. I hear the point about his disciplinary record. However it does not stand up to scrutiny as he has never been sent off down there, and gets a booking in only one in every three games.

The disciplinary record thing is now being well overplayed imo.

Yes, he’s had a few notable examples and the Scotland one will be the most recent in our memories.

Whilst the decision making and diving in are definitely weaknesses rather than strengths, it’s rewriting history to suggest it’s blighted his entire career. He’s generally been sound, occasionally brilliant. With the odd bit of daftness thrown in.

He has a very high ceiling of performance if he can curb it a bit but if he was as bad as some are making out then there’s no way he’d have got his Scotland caps, his big move and then his appearances whilst there.

[B.H.F.C]

The problem is that he seems to have an awful lot more of them than he should.

I seen him described on one of the Watford forums along the lines of “one of the stupidest players they’ve had” and given his recent performances for the national team (straight red card and then got away with what should have been a straight red), I’m not shocked.


That’s why I say that he absolutely needs to eat a cement mixer of humble pie (to borrow a phrase from the Thick of It) and show that he’s ditched the ego, the ****housery, and the hard man stuff before we even consider him. If he can get back to the basics and discipline of being a central defender then absolutely let’s go for a loan of him but if it’s same old, then it’s “not with a barge pole” for me.

What turned Rocky into a great defender this season was discipline and level headedness. He still had a couple of brain farts but you get the feeling he learns from them nowadays.

A lot of the ‘same old’ did earn him a move to The Championship and make him a Scotland international who put in a MOTM performance on his debut and play in best run of results they’ve had in a generation. There were things at the other end of the scale, obviously, but the good outweighs the bad IMO.

[jacomo]

Liam Henderson is still a free agent!

Why are we even talking about Triantis?!

[Lago]

Back to discussing Porto's ability or lack of, I guess it's another slow news day on the transfer front, although I see Modric is on his way to AC Milan at age 39 years, some player.

[Hibiza]

Liam Henderson is still a free agent!

Why are we even talking about Triantis?!

Aye , all becoming a bit tedious now.

[Thatdayinmay16]

I wouldn’t want Hibs spending that kind of wage on any kind of central defender, unless we were somehow talking about someone with Sauzee’s attacking attributes.

If we’re paying those kind of wages I’d want it to be on someone who can create and score goals. Though I don’t think for one second that we are seriously in for McKenna in any case.

We were spending 10k a week on Chris Mueller.

If he was available for 10k a week, I'm not sure many hibs fans would turn it down given his experience and quality.

[Wheat Hound]

I see the Daily Record (yes, I know) are reporting interest from Everton in John McGinn. Seems unlikely but we might yet get some of that sell on clause!

[04Sauzee]

Liam Henderson is still a free agent!

Why are we even talking about Triantis?!

Probably because it's known Hibs are interested as told by Gray and Mackay, it's a story.

[badabing67]

He’s also tweeted about them signing Lennon Miller and Cerny in the last day or so, best ignored.


The way Lee Miller was talking on pod it sounded like he would be moving to the continent

[easty]

We were spending 10k a week on Chris Mueller.

If he was available for 10k a week, I'm not sure many hibs fans would turn it down given his experience and quality.

Nah

[Centre Hawf]

Nah

You are right that his basic wage wasn't 10k a week, but I think once everything was factored in such as his accommodation and bonuses I believe he was getting close to £10k a week worth.

[blackpoolhibs]

I see the Daily Record (yes, I know) are reporting interest from Everton in John McGinn. Seems unlikely but we might yet get some of that sell on clause!

I thought i read the other day that SJM had signed an extention to his Villa deal? :dunno:

[Thatdayinmay16]

Nah

It was though.

[Callum_62]

Liam Henderson is still a free agent!

Why are we even talking about Triantis?!We are talking about Triantis as we still want to sign him

The same way free agent Hoilett took into pre season to sign back up

Until we say we have moved on Triantis will still be a story

Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk

[easty]

You are right that his basic wage wasn't 10k a week, but I think once everything was factored in such as his accommodation and bonuses I believe he was getting close to £10k a week worth.

How do you know though? Where was his accommodation? What were we paying for it? What bonuses? He was *****. One goal (v Arbroath) and nae assists. We only won 2 league games when he played :faf:


It was though.

Nah.

[Centre Hawf]

Liam Henderson is still a free agent!

Why are we even talking about Triantis?!

I think there is next to no chance of that happening.

[Thatdayinmay16]

How do you know though? Where was his accommodation? What were we paying for it? What bonuses? He was *****. One goal (v Arbroath) and nae assists. We only won 2 league games when he played :faf:



Nah.

You can say "NAH" all you want, it was widely reported at the time of his departure that Ron was fronting a lot of the money personally that we had been paying him and was widely reported he was on 10k a week.

If you want to debunk what I'm saying feel free rather than some absolute childish nonsense:aok:

[easty]

You can say "NAH" all you want, it was widely reported at the time of his departure that Ron was fronting a lot of the money personally that we had been paying him and was widely reported he was on 10k a week.

If you want to debunk what I'm saying feel free rather than some absolute childish nonsense:aok:

I will say nah all I want :aok:

My mum and dad and pals dinnae even know what I'm paid, Hibs don't announce player salaries when they sign or in the annual accounts. Are you pals with Chris Mueller? I'm guessing not.

Widely reported by who? Folk on here, not by Ron Gordon or by Hibs.

So, aye I'm being childish, it's childish not to believe everything that's written on a football fans forum, cool...nah.

[Thatdayinmay16]

I will say nah all I want :aok:

My mum and dad and pals dinnae even know what I'm paid, Hibs don't announce player salaries when they sign or in the annual accounts. Are you pals with Chris Mueller? I'm guessing not.

Widely reported by who? Folk on here, not by Ron Gordon or by Hibs.

So, aye I'm being childish, it's childish not to believe everything that's written on a football fans forum, cool...nah.

Widely reported by several media sources and also confirmed by Ben Kensell during a conversation with fans at a home game after he had signed saying he would be our highest paid player at the club and was a huge coup seeing as we apparently fought off interest from clubs down south.

Big age of 41 btw, act it.:rolleyes:

[easty]

Widely reported by several media sources and also confirmed by Ben Kensell during a conversation with fans at a home game after he had signed saying he would be our highest paid player at the club and was a huge coup seeing as we apparently fought off interest from clubs down south.

Big age of 41 btw, act it.:rolleyes:

What media sources? The Sun and The Daily Record? Did they quote anyone or just believe the crap that was posted on here? If Ben Kensell said that, then it must be true, cos he wasn't the biggest gob***** on the planet right enough. This is what we believe him on, but all the rest of the things he said were ***** :aok:

What age do I have to be to stop believing your bull****? Enlighten me.

[Hibernian Verse]

Widely reported by several media sources and also confirmed by Ben Kensell during a conversation with fans at a home game after he had signed saying he would be our highest paid player at the club and was a huge coup seeing as we apparently fought off interest from clubs down south.

Big age of 41 btw, act it.:rolleyes:

If your source is Ben Kensell talking to a fan, I'd reassess.

[The Harp Awakes]

I thought i read the other day that SJM had signed an extention to his Villa deal? :dunno:

Don't think so. He signed a 4 year deal in 2023, so a couple of years left on his contact I think.

Can see the move to Everton being possible. 31 year old and probably his last chance of a significant pay day. Will also be the last opportunity for Villa to make a significant sum for him. Emery, played John regularly but always seem to hook him midway through the 2nd half.

[sauzee1989]

Very worrying we are so close to European fixtures and our squad lacking at least 3 players. Was hoping to have seen some movement

[Thatdayinmay16]

What media sources? The Sun and The Daily Record? Did they quote anyone or just believe the crap that was posted on here? If Ben Kensell said that, then it must be true, cos he wasn't the biggest gob***** on the planet right enough. This is what we believe him on, but all the rest of the things he said were ***** :aok:

What age do I have to be to stop believing your bull****? Enlighten me.

So my bull**** is the media sources that reported it? So I take it I must run the daily record, sun, evening news and Edinburgh live?

Why would 4/5 different sources all lie about it? I'm not sure what great success they get by doing so and also if you could provide a link sourcing that they all got confirmation that Mueller was on 10k a week at hibs from .net?

[Centre Hawf]

Don't think so. He signed a 4 year deal in 2023, so a couple of years left on his contact I think.

Can see the move to Everton being possible. 31 year old and probably his last chance of a significant pay day. Will also be the last opportunity for Villa to make a significant sum for him. Emery, played John regularly but always seem to hook him midway through the 2nd half.

I think this is probably a good chance for everyone. The question will be for Everton how much is he worth to them for 2 to 4 years maybe worth of time. Could definitely see this happen to suit Villa for PSR reasons, John for a long term contract option, and Everton can pick up one of the better midfielders in the Premier League outside the 'elite' category for what would be peanuts in the grand scheme of things.

[EGL2000]

Very worrying we are so close to European fixtures and our squad lacking at least 3 players. Was hoping to have seen some movement

I would probably say 2, what's the 3rd area? Obviously currently a huge hole were Triantis was and light up top now as well. I wouldn't be that bothered at this point currently but the Europa game is huge for us and really need the strongest squad possible for it.

[easty]

[/B]
So my bull**** is the media sources that reported it? So I take it I must run the daily record, sun, evening news and Edinburgh live?

Why would 4/5 different sources all lie about it? I'm not sure what great success they get by doing so and also if you could provide a link sourcing that they all got confirmation that Mueller was on 10k a week at hibs from .net?

Eh? Does any of what you've written above make sense to you?

Your 4/5 different sources are reporting what's written on here/twitter/other social media, it's not so much lies as lazy journalism with no fact checking and no basis.

In bold - how would I get that? What would it achieve? Do you think the fact that I can't get it proves Mueller was on £10k a week? :faf:

[JasonC1875]

The way Lee Miller was talking on pod it sounded like he would be moving to the continent

That’s what I’m getting at, the boy clearly isn’t ITK in any way.

[1875Sean]

I think this is probably a good chance for everyone. The question will be for Everton how much is he worth to them for 2 to 4 years maybe worth of time. Could definitely see this happen to suit Villa for PSR reasons, John for a long term contract option, and Everton can pick up one of the better midfielders in the Premier League outside the 'elite' category for what would be peanuts in the grand scheme of things.

He is their captain and is a good guy to have around the place, can’t see it happening unless they have other players lined up

[Thatdayinmay16]

Eh? Does any of what you've written above make sense to you?

Your 4/5 different sources are reporting what's written on here/twitter/other social media, it's not so much lies as lazy journalism with no fact checking and no basis.

In bold - how would I get that? What would it achieve? Do you think the fact that I can't get it proves Mueller was on £10k a week? :faf:

How do you know that the source hasn't come from someone inside Hibs? Your saying it's lazy journalism but not providing proof of said accusations?

In bold, you said it wasn't true, I'm asking you to prove said claims.

He is currently on around $13,000 a week at Chicago fire, are you claiming he was only nearly half or less of that sum each week at hibs?

[Donegal Hibby]

Really surprised how long it’s taking to sign another striker . As it was said about Manneh , signing a guy from a different league they sometimes need time to adapt and get up to speed with the pace and demands of our league..

Triantis i can understand why it’s taking so long but again if we are going to have to look at other options I wonder at what point Gray and Hibs decide to move on for reasons above , surely we are getting near the point where we need an answer one way or the other?

[MacGruber]

I would probably say 2, what's the 3rd area? Obviously currently a huge hole were Triantis was and light up top now as well. I wouldn't be that bothered at this point currently but the Europa game is huge for us and really need the strongest squad possible for it.

Would say Triantis or replacement and 2 strikers being the 3. Could possibly get away with 1 striker but would be a tad light unless someone, Cleland perhaps, steps up from the youth team.

[Spike Mandela]

Very worrying we are so close to European fixtures and our squad lacking at least 3 players. Was hoping to have seen some movement


I wouldn't say it worries me but it certainly irks me every time we qualify for Europe. Our stated aim every year is to qualify for Europe but when we do it our qualifying ties are so early that our squad is always incomplete. It kind of defeats the purpose of trying so hard to qualify.

This year, for once it looked like we would go in later and have the final pieces of our squad in place until Aberdeen scuppered that.

[MacGruber]

I see the Daily Record (yes, I know) are reporting interest from Everton in John McGinn. Seems unlikely but we might yet get some of that sell on clause!

No chance he's leaving Villa IMO. Maybe a year or 2 up the road when he's done

[GloryGlory]

He is their captain and is a good guy to have around the place, can’t see it happening unless they have other players lined up

On the other hand would Unai Emery and the Villa board be that sentimental if a decent wedge came their way to put towards a younger upgrade? Some chat on Villa forums that they are possibly looking to get some of the higher earners off the books?

[easty]

How do you know that the source hasn't come from someone inside Hibs? Your saying it's lazy journalism but not providing proof of said accusations?

In bold, you said it wasn't true, I'm asking you to prove said claims.

He is currently on around $13,000 a week at Chicago fire, are you claiming he was only nearly half or less of that sum each week at hibs?

I don't need to provide proof of the lack of existence of something. I can't prove something doesn't exist. Can you show me that they had proof?

I'm not claiming anything about his salary, other than that he wasn't getting £10k a week. He's paid less now than you say we paid him then? Though I dunno what his salary now got to do with what we paid him 4 years ago?

[ToffeeCabbage]

I see the Daily Record (yes, I know) are reporting interest from Everton in John McGinn. Seems unlikely but we might yet get some of that sell on clause!

Please happen! :hyper

[Centre Hawf]

He is their captain and is a good guy to have around the place, can’t see it happening unless they have other players lined up

If they can get £20m for him this summer it would help offset a lot of their potential PSR issues. They've just been fined £10m and have another £10m one waiting if they don't fix up their ins and outs. Selling someone like McGinn would effectively be pure profit for them.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Villa are about to embark on redeveloping one end of their stadium and the wider area around that side of the ground. Over £100M required for that project.

[blackpoolhibs]

Villa are about to embark on redeveloping one end of their stadium and the wider area around that side of the ground. Over £100M required for that project.

They could do with redeveloping that stand we were in, underneath was a complete tip, seemed way to little space for the amount of people it held.

It was like our old stand.

[B.H.F.C]

I wouldn't say it worries me but it certainly irks me every time we qualify for Europe. Our stated aim every year is to qualify for Europe but when we do it our qualifying ties are so early that our squad is always incomplete. It kind of defeats the purpose of trying so hard to qualify.

This year, for once it looked like we would go in later and have the final pieces of our squad in place until Aberdeen scuppered that.

To be fair, I doubt anyone has a complete squad for a European tie in July and over a month of the transfer window still to go. I do feel like we are in a much better place to be competitive this time round, even if not having Triantis or his replacement concerns me.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

They could do with redeveloping that stand we were in, underneath was a complete tip, seemed way to little space for the amount of people it held.

It was like our old stand.

Yes I think that's the Doug Ellis stand? where the away fans are housed. I believe that stand is to be renovated but it's the sand behind the goal where 7,000 extra seats are going and that end will be more enclosed.

[flash]

SJM starts most games for Villa but is almost always first one yo be subbed.

It seems unlikely he would move but not impossible if he wants more game time.

[Centre Hawf]

To be fair, I doubt anyone has a complete squad for a European tie in July and over a month of the transfer window still to go. I do feel like we are in a much better place to be competitive this time round, even if not having Triantis or his replacement concerns me.

We also effectively have a potential Triantis replacement for the short term in Manneh. The only difference is he was signed in January instead of the last week or two which should give him a head start if he has to play beside say Levitt.

[truehibernian]

SJM starts most games for Villa but is almost always first one yo be subbed.

It seems unlikely he would move but not impossible if he wants more game time.

I’ve always thought Spurs would be an ideal fit for SJM, think their midfield needs more energy and bite. Think it’s his favourite ground too. Can’t see him leaving Villa though, he’s idolised there as he is here.

[WestStandWillie]

Definitely comes in to the no ******** category.
Someone on twitter saying Triantis is holding out for a deal with Celtic.

Think the boy is at it. Triantis agent has said the next move has to be playing regularly as he was with us. That doesn't happen at Celtic. What a way to jeopardise any World Cup hopes.

[EGL2000]

We also effectively have a potential Triantis replacement for the short term in Manneh. The only difference is he was signed in January instead of the last week or two which should give him a head start if he has to play beside say Levitt.

From the limited experience of watching him and his highlights from previous clubs I don't think he looks that similar in style to Triantis, definitely don't think he will be the long term replacement. He doesn't really look to have the power and pace to drive the ball forward which Triantis does so well. Looks more like a player who keeps the ball moving quickly and looks to regain possession quickly in the middle of the park.

[Donegal Hibby]

We also effectively have a potential Triantis replacement for the short term in Manneh. The only difference is he was signed in January instead of the last week or two which should give him a head start if he has to play beside say Levitt.

I haven’t seen enough of Manneh yet but I’d much rather see Mulligan in midfield with one of the players you mention . A midfield with Levitt and Manneh I think might lack a bit of dig/ strength.

[B.H.F.C]

SJM starts most games for Villa but is almost always first one yo be subbed.

It seems unlikely he would move but not impossible if he wants more game time.

I agree. As others have mentioned the financial rules also make it more possible. Being the wrong side of 30, I don’t think it’s out of the question they sell him before his contract is up.

[NAE NOOKIE]

SJM starts most games for Villa but is almost always first one yo be subbed.

It seems unlikely he would move but not impossible if he wants more game time.

I always had a feeling SJM would start to struggle a bit in the EPL by the time he hit 30 simply because of the way he plays, which is probably why Villa sub him so frequently these days, his work rate is mental.

Everton have spent a fortune on Bramley Moor Dock and IMO the target for the next few seasons will be to stay up, they've flirted with relegation for the last few seasons and to go down could turn that money spinning stadium into a millstone around their neck. If you are looking for players up for a battle SJM is probably the first guy on your list and £20 million or so to get 2 or 3 years out of him would probably be money well spent in that context.

SJM is set for life money wise, so if Villa were to tip him the wink that he isn't guaranteed a start any more I could see him leaving Villa for regular football, especially to play in the inaugural season of what is, internally at least, a magnificent stadium, in a city that is a football hotbed to boot.

I can see him ripping it up in a Merseyside derby and the Everton fans loving him, just as he is at every club he has played for :greengrin

[Since452]

Aston Villa to Everton is a sideways step at best. A step down in recent seasons. Can't see that happening unless it's taken out of SJM's hands.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

We have a strong 11 just now with a decent bench too. We just need a little sparkle, probably in the form of loans.

Ideally, Triantis is the main target just now.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Aston Villa to Everton is a sideways step at best. A step down in recent seasons. Can't see that happening unless it's taken out of SJM's hands.

St Mirren also get part of any profit don’t they?

[worcesterhibby]

We have a strong 11 just now with a decent bench too. We just need a little sparkle, probably in the form of loans.

Ideally, Triantis is the main target just now.

and at least one big target man striker who scores with his head. :agree:

[easty]

Aston Villa to Everton is a sideways step at best. A step down in recent seasons. Can't see that happening unless it's taken out of SJM's hands.

:agree:

Struggle to see any reason why SJM would want this move.

It was a sideways step years ago, it's 100% a backwards step now.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Aston Villa to Everton is a sideways step at best. A step down in recent seasons. Can't see that happening unless it's taken out of SJM's hands.

For the reasons I gave above I could definitely see it happening. SJM is if nothing else a sensible guy and he will know where Villa want to be isn't going to include a player who is increasingly going to be on a downward trajectory. He has two years of his Villa contract to go and if Everton were to offer him a 3 year deal at near on the money he gets now, plus a far better chance of regular football, I don't think sentimentality over his love of Villa would get in the way of pragmatism. There are far worse clubs than Everton for a player to finish his career at.

As for being taken out of his hands. As fans of this club know only too well, taking matters out of the hands of any player under contract is a thing of the past. It will purely be his decision to stay or go.

[Ship of Hope]

You can see why villa might be keen as it is not too different than selling a player that came through the academy in the sense virtually 100% profit. But you would think it would need to be for way more than 20m otherwise hardly making a dent in ffp and still need to fund a replacement. I am hoping for 40m+… 🥳

[147lothian]

:agree:

Struggle to see any reason why SJM would want this move.

It was a sideways step years ago, it's 100% a backwards step now.

Its not club size for me that could make the move happen, its game time and where he fits into his managers plans.

[Donegal Hibby]

Villa fans kinda split on the idea of selling SJM . Some don’t want to see Villa sell him while others think if they got an offer of £25mil plus for a player approaching 31 it would be a good deal.

[HoboHarry]

:agree:

Struggle to see any reason why SJM would want this move.

It was a sideways step years ago, it's 100% a backwards step now.
Not sure about that, he'll relish the extra game time and Everton have got shot of their old owner and have the steady hand of David Moyes as manager. I think Everton are going to improve over the next few years.

[Centre Hawf]

From the limited experience of watching him and his highlights from previous clubs I don't think he looks that similar in style to Triantis, definitely don't think he will be the long term replacement. He doesn't really look to have the power and pace to drive the ball forward which Triantis does so well. Looks more like a player who keeps the ball moving quickly and looks to regain possession quickly in the middle of the park.


I haven’t seen enough of Manneh yet but I’d much rather see Mulligan in midfield with one of the players you mention . A midfield with Levitt and Manneh I think might lack a bit of dig/ strength.

I don't really disagree with both your points and while he probably isn't a like for like replacement for Triantis, I like to imagine if he's ever to actually make it here at Hibs then there will surely be a potential appetite to use him in the meantime. If that appetite isn't there 6 months into his stay and after a pre-season in a time without Triantis/Newell available and with the likes of Kwon and NMW both gone. You have to ask yourself if it will ever happen for him here at the club?

[ancient hibee]

Three years at Everton and then off to Parkhead to finish up.

[Since452]

St Mirren also get part of any profit don’t they?

St Mirren will get 33% of any money we make from our 15% sell on clause.

[NAE NOOKIE]

:agree:

Struggle to see any reason why SJM would want this move.

It was a sideways step years ago, it's 100% a backwards step now.

There's a difference between wanting a move and realising it might be the best thing for your career. Villa are at a bit of a crossroads, they followed up a stellar season ( for them ) by finishing two places lower last season, and out of the CL places. If they are to kick on I simply can't see SJM being seen as integral to that ambition.

Like it or not this is where SJM's career is now at, and at some stage every player ends up taking a backward step, even the very best. I fail to see how Goodison Park based Everton struggling against relegation would have been a sideways step a year ago, but has now become "100% a backward step" as they move into a brand new stadium with a capacity 10,000 higher than Villa Park, a support every bit as passionate, if not more, than Villa and a clean slate to start from, with a manager who is clearly a great fit for the club.

There's thousands of players out there who wish they had a backward step like that on the table.

[nonshinyfinish]

St Mirren will get 33% of any money we make from our 15% sell on clause.

30%.

Effectively we get 10.5% of Villa's profit and St Mirren get 4.5%.

[NAE NOOKIE]

30%.

Effectively we get 10.5% of Villa's profit and St Mirren get 4.5%.

So around 2 to 3 million quid ...... bring it on :greengrin