Summer transfer thread 2025

[EGL2000]

The thing is if Porto career hadn't taken a drop there would be no realistic chance us getting him back. Only reason it's even possible is due to him dropping off the last 2 seasons.

[B.H.F.C]

It’s absolutely possible a player can lose his way. Infact I’d suggest it’s fairly clear Porteous has, something which he done when he was here towards the end as well.

He’s still not currently ‘easily’ a better player than Rocky or Iredale though, whether that’s because he’s lost his way or not. PNE bench warmer Porteous is in no way, shape or form ‘easily’ better than those two.

For me I’d rather be looking for players on the up, rather than pinning our hopes on a player who’s lost his way coming good again.

I’d hardly say Iredale or Rocky were on the when they came in to the team last November or when they joined. We’re talking about a player who has played regularly in The Championship over the last 2 and a bit years so he’s hardly at rock bottom.

[Springbank]

I’d hardly say Iredale or Rocky were on the when they came in to the team last November or when they joined. We’re talking about a player who has played regularly in The Championship over the last 2 and a bit years so he’s hardly at rock bottom.

Yep, and mission 1 is win the first derby, with a clean sheet

[Heisenberg]

I’d hardly say Iredale or Rocky were on the when they came in to the team last November or when they joined. We’re talking about a player who has played regularly in The Championship over the last 2 and a bit years so he’s hardly at rock bottom.

Aye this is a good point. Iredale couldn’t get a game at League One Bolton but came here and was arguably POTY.

[B.H.F.C]

Aye this is a good point. Iredale couldn’t get a game at League One Bolton but came here and was arguably POTY.

And that was after, arguably, getting in to our team by default as well.

I think we’ve seen that we have a manager who can find a way of getting the best out of players if they have good attributes. Porteous has loads of good attributes and experience as well.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Fraser Murray signs for Wigan. Great move for him.
Well done to him. Does he go down as a success story of recent years in terms of guys that have came through and went on to have decent careers at a good level? Probably? Who are the other candidates doesn't feel like there has been that many.

[eastmainsmsh]

The Porto from the season we finished 3rd?

Hope Porto comes back and gets another crack down south

[hibees 7062]

They’re signing Findlay on a loan to buy deal . Who needs a computer

[Thatdayinmay16]

Up until LJ we had the best defensive record in the league outside the OF for 3 seasons. Porto was heavily featured.


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People don't like those type's of facts though.

They'd rather make up this imaginary thing about him apparently having a "bad attitude" even though he was very well liked within the squads he played in and still keeps in touch with many current/ex hibs players.

I'm confused as to why many are turning their nose up at him, people are making out as if PNE were chucking in goals left right and centre, that wasn't the case, themselves, Hull & Derby had conceded less goals than Coventry & Bristol City who both finished in a play off position, they all ended up bottom of the table and couldn't score to save themselves.

The less said about Watford the better, that club is an absolute basket case, more managers than hot food served on a Saturday afternoon, some of their fans complained about Joao Pedro leaving claiming "he was never good enough" for the PL.

Porteous improves us greatly and regardless of personal opinions, that is a fact.

[Centre Hawf]

Well done to him. Does he go down as a success story of recent years in terms of guys that have came through and went on to have decent careers at a good level? Probably? Who are the other candidates doesn't feel like there has been that many.

Definitely a success story. Anyone that comes out of your academy and plays regular senior football is probably a success for the most part, even more so if they can go play in the Scottish Prem or top 3/4 leagues of England.

[One Day Soon]

Porteous at his best is comfortably as good as either Rocky or Iredale and probably significantly better. The question is whether we could get him back to his best - and improving.

Downsides for me - questionable judgement and temperament at times, slightly risky signing in terms of direction of career and performance and referees just LOVE to book him up here.

Upsides - unquestionably plays for the jersey, potential to be an absolute steal of a signing, on his game would be a pretty seamless replacement for Rocky should we lose him, requires next to no settling in time in terms of the club, Edinburgh and the Scottish game. And he's a Scotland internationalist, so there's clearly quality there.

VAR decision: sign him.

[AlbertK86]

I never said his Scotland career was finished, although it wouldn’t surprise me. His stupidity cost us big time at a national tournament.

Using the fact he has double figures of Scotland caps when he doesn’t get in the squad anymore though doesn’t really tell you much. The current version of Porteous is a poorer player than the one that was getting into Scotland squads previously.

Some of our best players in recent times have been returnees after being good in Scotland then struggled in England.

Scott Allan and Fraser Fyvie are two examples


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[Halmyre Hibee]

Porteous would be a great addition to our squad. Let’s get it done Hibs.

[superfurryhibby]

People don't like those type's of facts though.

They'd rather make up this imaginary thing about him apparently having a "bad attitude" even though he was very well liked within the squads he played in and still keeps in touch with many current/ex hibs players.

I'm confused as to why many are turning their nose up at him, people are making out as if PNE were chucking in goals left right and centre, that wasn't the case, themselves, Hull & Derby had conceded less goals than Coventry & Bristol City who both finished in a play off position, they all ended up bottom of the table and couldn't score to save themselves.

The less said about Watford the better, that club is an absolute basket case, more managers than hot food served on a Saturday afternoon, some of their fans complained about Joao Pedro leaving claiming "he was never good enough" for the PL.

Porteous improves us greatly and regardless of personal opinions, that is a fact.

Except it isn't, it's a personal opinion.

If you said Virgil Van Dyke was joining us, that might be pretty undisputable.

There's more to football than a players innate abilities. Temperament, attitude and impact on teammates, treatment from officialdom and media all matter.

Porteous comes with a lot of baggage around his capacity to focus on playing football. Can this really be so confusing when it's been repeated so many times?

If he comes back I'll be pleased, but also have reservations.

[GreenPJ]

Porteous at his best is comfortably as good as either Rocky or Iredale and probably significantly better. The question is whether we could get him back to his best - and improving.

Downsides for me - questionable judgement and temperament at times, slightly risky signing in terms of direction of career and performance and referees just LOVE to book him up here.

Upsides - unquestionably plays for the jersey, potential to be an absolute steal of a signing, on his game would be a pretty seamless replacement for Rocky should we lose him, requires next to no settling in time in terms of the club, Edinburgh and the Scottish game. And he's a Scotland internationalist, so there's clearly quality there.

VAR decision: sign him.

Genuine question - when you say "at his best" what period would you classify his best? He had some very good games for us (not watched any of him whilst down south) but his problem was consistency and temperament - he was capable of a 9 or 9.5 out of 10 and next week could be 5 or 6). For me Iredale is consistently 7.5-8.0. Rocky as well for the last few months has been remarkably consistent and for me would average a 8.0-8.5 I am not sure I have seen that level of consistency in Porteous. When you look at how poor Scotland have been defensively he should be knocking that door down. Appreciate the media did a number on him for the Euro's as it was blown out of all proportion but if he was performing at a consistent level for whatever club he should have been in the squad pushing for a start.

[Smartie]

Porteous at his best is comfortably as good as either Rocky or Iredale and probably significantly better. The question is whether we could get him back to his best - and improving.

Downsides for me - questionable judgement and temperament at times, slightly risky signing in terms of direction of career and performance and referees just LOVE to book him up here.

Upsides - unquestionably plays for the jersey, potential to be an absolute steal of a signing, on his game would be a pretty seamless replacement for Rocky should we lose him, requires next to no settling in time in terms of the club, Edinburgh and the Scottish game. And he's a Scotland internationalist, so there's clearly quality there.

VAR decision: sign him.

Porto has a high ceiling and a low floor. Bad day Porto, bad moment Porto can be pretty poor. Iredale to name one hasn’t had many poor moments.

Gray though has already demonstrated an ability to improve players. Exactly what I said about Porto above could have been said about Rocky and within a season, Gray has helped turn Rocky in a squad player who we might start if we overlook his rough edges in an indispensable starter, the cornerstone of our defence.

Porto always frustrated me but that’s because I actually really rated him, I’ve always thought he’s capable of playing at his best more consistently. He’s also now reaching a great age for a defender.

Outrageous claim alert - if we signed Porteous and kept Rocky, Rangers and Celtic would be doing well to put together a back line better than Iredale, Rocky and Porto, especially if Celtic lose Carter-Vickers.

I’d be disappointed if Porto or Rocky joined Celtic or Rangers as I think both would do very well for them.

[Donegal Hibby]

Some of Hibs best signings of the last decade or so are players who have lost their way. Allan lost his way about 3 times before joining us and being a stellar player, Fraser Fyvie was a lost player after failing down south. Martin Boyle failed at Dundee. I don't think it's as simple as saying you can only sign players on the back of good seasons.

Porteous is a player at 26 years old who has both incredible amounts of career experience not just in Scotland but now in a very competitive division down south and has played against some top opposition for Scotland. Yet despite all that he still arguably has his best years ahead of him still as a defender. If you were to offer me ANY player with the CV of Ryan Porteous I think we would all jump at it.

I would agree that on current form he isn't 'easily' better than Rocky or Iredale but I don't think it's a choice of either of them or Porteous. The best case scenario would be he would come into RCB with they two, although I think it's sadly a case of a replacement for Rocky personally. If we're looking for a replacement centre back then I think we'd honestly struggle to do any better in this current market than Ryan Porteous.

I do and don’t agree with your last point in if we got back a mature Porteous that has the head screwed on who learnt to cut out the daft things he was doing as a young lad like lunging in on tackles he can’t possibly win then yes it probably would in the current market be hard to get a better player , certainly has the ability to be a top player at us …

Though if we got the one we had the last few months before he left I don’t think he’d be any great asset to the club and could end up being quite the opposite . What I mean by that is there is a good togetherness in this squad now and the one thing that we don’t need is a player bawling at other players when he makes a mistake himself. Honestly thought Porteous antics was shocking before he left quite frankly and i think some fans have (myself included) very valid reasons to be concerned over which version of Ryan Porteous we’d get , personally really hope we can persuade Rocky to stay who is much less a risk on and off the field….

https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/ryan-porteous.61308/

https://x.com/louorns/status/1892178981694099572

[Paulie Walnuts]

Some of our best players in recent times have been returnees after being good in Scotland then struggled in England.

Scott Allan and Fraser Fyvie are two examples


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They have been. Some of our worst have also been those types - Demi Mitchell, James Scott, Kris Humphrey’s, Emerson Hyndman who had all been good up here then went down south, lost their way and failed at us.

Ultimately each player needs to be taken on their own merit rather than compared with players who have followed a similar path before as there’s examples of successes and failures.

If Porteous comes back and we get the best version of him then he’d be a good signing. I’m not convinced that version will be the one we get though as it’s been about 3 or 4 years since he’s consistently delivered it.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Except it isn't, it's a personal opinion.

If you said Virgil Van Dyke was joining us, that might be pretty undisputable.

There's more to football than a players innate abilities. Temperament, attitude and impact on teammates, treatment from officialdom and media all matter.

Porteous comes with a lot of baggage around his capacity to focus on playing football. Can this really be so confusing when it's been repeated so many times?

If he comes back I'll be pleased, but also have reservations.

He does improve us though, regardless of how you look at it, up until LJ had walked in the door, Ryan was apart of a hibs side that had conceded the least amount of goals outside of the old firm for 2 season if I am not mistaken.

Absolutely no disputing his performances dropped in the months leading up to his departure.

If you're suggesting to me he isn't a greater option than Warren O'Hora or Lewis Miller at RCB then your mistaken.

[Fifeshirehibs]

If it works wage wise all round and is just a money back deal to Watford , no more, then worth a go on Porto! Hoping Bushiri stays for some more at least, although Ekpiteta might be OK. Ohora NO. So for Porto it's a Go, Defo

[SaulGoodman]

What an exhausting last couple pages.

I trust Gray to get the best out of Porteous should he sign.

[Aldo]

It’s ever so easy to look at the negatives when it comes to players and ignore all the positives.

[easty]

I do and don’t agree with your last point in if we got back a mature Porteous that has the head screwed on who learnt to cut out the daft things he was doing as a young lad like lunging in on tackles he can’t possibly win then yes it probably would in the current market be hard to get a better player , certainly has the ability to be a top player at us …

Though if we got the one we had the last few months before he left I don’t think he’d be any great asset to the club and could end up being quite the opposite . What I mean by that is there is a good togetherness in this squad now and the one thing that we don’t need is a player bawling at other players when he makes a mistake himself. Honestly thought Porteous antics was shocking before he left quite frankly and i think some fans have (myself included) very valid reasons to be concerned over which version of Ryan Porteous we’d get , personally really hope we can persuade Rocky to stay who is much less a risk on and off the field….

https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/ryan-porteous.61308/

https://x.com/louorns/status/1892178981694099572

Do you go searching online for reasons not to sign all players we’re linked with, or just when they’re guys who came through our youth system, and who went on to play at a higher level? It’s just weird.

I’m no even sure what the second link is meant to tell me? Cos based on that graph he’s done better than Esteve at Burnley who’s being linked with huge money transfers just now.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Do you go searching online for reasons not to sign all players we’re linked with, or just when they’re guys who came through our youth system, and who went on to play at a higher level? It’s just weird.

I’m no even sure what the second link is meant to tell me? Cos based on that graph he’s done better than Esteve at Burnley who’s being linked with huge money transfers just now.

& Mason Holgate, who funnily enough has played over 100 games in the Premier League under a certain Carlo Ancelotti and was heavily linked with a move away at said stage of his career.

[JohnM1875]

What an exhausting last couple pages.

I trust Gray to get the best out of Porteous should he sign.

Think it is that simple. Same goes for any signing we make this summer.

[Tyler Durden]

On the surface this looks like a good bit of business. That said I've never seen him play so hopefully he's not built for McInness ball.

This Braga guy has a 1 in 3 record at that level at 25 years old. We paid similar money for 18 year old Melkersen who had scored 17 or 18 in 25 games the prior season.

Time will tell but so far Jamestown seems to be feeding Hearts Norwegian journeyman for silly prices. Between this boy, Kartum and the right back they're signing.

They'll lap it up of course.

[04Sauzee]

According to reports, Sunderland preparing a £10m bid for Lennon Miller

[flash]

According to reports, Sunderland preparing a £10m bid for Lennon Miller

He is going to be a superstar.

[Bobby's Cinema]

According to reports, Sunderland preparing a £10m bid for Lennon Miller
What does that tell us about how they might value Triantis..

[Souter96Mac]

According to reports, Sunderland preparing a £10m bid for Lennon Miller

That'll be Triantis defo leaving the mackems then - which I think we all knew anyway. Just hope it's to us.

[HendoDelivered]

According to reports, Sunderland preparing a £10m bid for Lennon Miller

Good on well of they get a fee like that. That unreal money for a scottish club, old firm included.

[Thatdayinmay16]

According to reports, Sunderland preparing a £10m bid for Lennon Miller

Villa absolutely shafted us with 2.5m for McGinn.

[NAE NOOKIE]

According to reports, Sunderland preparing a £10m bid for Lennon Miller

In a market that for years has seen young Scottish talent snapped up for absolute peanuts, not least from us, that's some serious money. I hope it happens, because it sets the bar far higher than it's been and it's something else for clubs outside of the Uglies to point to when English clubs offer £500,000 for a guy that if he was playing in EFL1 would go for £2,000,000

[Donegal Hibby]

Do you go searching online for reasons not to sign all players we’re linked with, or just when they’re guys who came through our youth system, and who went on to play at a higher level? It’s just weird.

I’m no even sure what the second link is meant to tell me? Cos based on that graph he’s done better than Esteve at Burnley who’s being linked with huge money transfers just now.

Not really though I am interested in when we are linked with players to see what the current clubs that own them fans opinions are on them . I have done it with Xavier Simons , Smith and most other players too . Recently the two players that’s been mentioned on here have been two ex-players in Nisbet and Porteous who some of us aren’t overly keen on seeing back due to issues we had with them before so I just checked on both their club’s forums and the fans comments have mainly been negative which there isn’t a lot I can do about .

The reason I posted the comments from the Watford fans is it’s been said a few times on here that maybe Porteous has matured and cut out the stupid stuff , just thought it was interesting that the Watford fans don’t appear to think he has easty .. that’s all .

[bingo70]

He is going to be a superstar.

I know I’m in the wrong, I simply must be given what everyone else is saying, so don’t come at me about it.

I’ve just never been blown away by him whenever I’ve seen him. £10m seems crazy money but good on Motherwell if they can get it.

[pepe]

Villa absolutely shafted us with 2.5m for McGinn.

Spoke to a villa fan who says he’s pound for pound the best signing in premier league history

[easty]

Spoke to a villa fan who says he’s pound for pound the best signing in premier league history

He wasn’t a premier league signing.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Spoke to a villa fan who says he’s pound for pound the best signing in premier league history

Based on value for money he probably isn't far off.

Can't think of many players in PL history never mind football history being signed for so little then leading his team from the championship to the champions league group stage.

[Donegal Hibby]

According to reports, Sunderland preparing a £10m bid for Lennon Miller

I would be surprised if it was as much as £10m with him entering I think the last year of his contract , would have guessed maybe £5m or £6m would have been the fee .

[EGL2000]

Genuine question - when you say "at his best" what period would you classify his best? He had some very good games for us (not watched any of him whilst down south) but his problem was consistency and temperament - he was capable of a 9 or 9.5 out of 10 and next week could be 5 or 6). For me Iredale is consistently 7.5-8.0. Rocky as well for the last few months has been remarkably consistent and for me would average a 8.0-8.5 I am not sure I have seen that level of consistency in Porteous. When you look at how poor Scotland have been defensively he should be knocking that door down. Appreciate the media did a number on him for the Euro's as it was blown out of all proportion but if he was performing at a consistent level for whatever club he should have been in the squad pushing for a start.

I think Iredale's consistency has been the biggest shock this season. I genuinely think you prob count the mistakes he's made on 1 hand and that includes a nothing stray pass. When you take into count he wasn't even playing consistently before it's a ridiculous level of performance to maintain.

[easty]

Not really though I am interested in when we are linked with players to see what the current clubs that own them fans opinions are on them . I have done it with Xavier Simons , Smith and most other players too . Recently the two players that’s been mentioned on here have been two ex-players in Nisbet and Porteous who some of us aren’t overly keen on seeing back due to issues we had with them before so I just checked on both their club’s forums and the fans comments have mainly been negative which there isn’t a lot I can do about .

The reason I posted the comments from the Watford fans is it’s been said a few times on here that maybe Porteous has matured and cut out the stupid stuff , just thought it was interesting that the Watford fans don’t appear to think he has easty .. that’s all .

You pulled the equivalent one of these to try to make Porteous look bad, but didnae bother with this one which is hardly a glowing endorsement of Simons.

https://x.com/wt_analysis/status/1821539266859552878?s=46&t=D_9KaoRnzKU_iJPtdJwUXQ

Tells me you’re slightly bias.

[EGL2000]

According to reports, Sunderland preparing a £10m bid for Lennon Miller

Good on Motherwell all Scottish clubs need to start demanding more for players, excluding Celtic. Only way we will start getting more. Been shafted off England for far too long.

[NAE NOOKIE]

If Porto does return it will be to face a crossroads in his career. He could still easily attract attention from 'bigger' clubs if he gets back on track, but if he can't do that here under a manager and coaching team who have shown real signs that they are able to make players realise their full potential then it's doubtful he could do it anywhere .... especially when he doesn't have the excuse of having to adjust to a new environment.

Somebody made a good point about the habit he had acquired in his latter days at Hibs of bawling out his teammates .... that would be number one on the list to cut out, especially when in the shape of folk like Jack Iredale, Lewis Miller and Rocky ( if they stay ) he would get just as much back, if not more.

On the upside, and something I haven't seen mentioned a lot, apart from being a clear defensive asset if he can screw the nut, he is also a threat from corners and set pieces .... I always thought he was made for the chuck a centre half up front when times running out and you are chasing the game role.

Personally, if he does return I will be excited to see if we end up with the player Porto should have been capable of developing into. But if he doesn't sign I won't be wringing my hands either because we won't need to find out if what we might have got back was the reckless shouty Porto who left us,

[Centre Hawf]

I do and don’t agree with your last point in if we got back a mature Porteous that has the head screwed on who learnt to cut out the daft things he was doing as a young lad like lunging in on tackles he can’t possibly win then yes it probably would in the current market be hard to get a better player , certainly has the ability to be a top player at us …

Though if we got the one we had the last few months before he left I don’t think he’d be any great asset to the club and could end up being quite the opposite . What I mean by that is there is a good togetherness in this squad now and the one thing that we don’t need is a player bawling at other players when he makes a mistake himself. Honestly thought Porteous antics was shocking before he left quite frankly and i think some fans have (myself included) very valid reasons to be concerned over which version of Ryan Porteous we’d get , personally really hope we can persuade Rocky to stay who is much less a risk on and off the field….

https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/ryan-porteous.61308/

https://x.com/louorns/status/1892178981694099572

I think his mindset is important for sure. It’s something that we’d have to trust SDG and Malky Mackay on deciding it they think he’d be a welcome addition to the changing room. They haven’t gotten it wrong so far so whatever they decide I’d trust is right.

What other fans say of Porto is of no interest to me personally, he’s out of favour and thus will not be spoken well about. You can look at any forum for any out of sorts player and find comments that would back up your point to not sign them. If you went deep enough about Rocky you’d find the same here.

[Baader]

Spoke to a villa fan who says he’s pound for pound the best signing in premier league history

Would think that's probably Vardy. Everton paid 60k and got about 400 games out of Seamus Coleman as well.

[Hibees1973]

If Porto does return it will be to face a crossroads in his career. He could still easily attract attention from 'bigger' clubs if he gets back on track, but if he can't do that here under a manager and coaching team who have shown real signs that they are able to make players realise their full potential then it's doubtful he could do it anywhere .... especially when he doesn't have the excuse of having to adjust to a new environment.

Somebody made a good point about the habit he had acquired in his latter days at Hibs of bawling out his teammates .... that would be number one on the list to cut out, especially when in the shape of folk like Jack Iredale, Lewis Miller and Rocky ( if they stay ) he would get just as much back, if not more.

On the upside, and something I haven't seen mentioned a lot, apart from being a clear defensive asset if he can screw the nut, he is also a threat from corners and set pieces .... I always thought he was made for the chuck a centre half up front when times running out and you are chasing the game role.

Personally, if he does return I will be excited to see if we end up with the player Porto should have been capable of developing into. But if he doesn't sign I won't be wringing my hands either because we won't need to find out if what we might have got back was the reckless shouty Porto who left us,

Must admit I'm torn on Porteous coming back.

Reading the articles speculating his return it appears he may come back on loan. Highly unlikely we will be able to match or even get close to the wages he is on at Watford, so them meeting a percentage of his wages reduces any cost and risk. A deal where we could secure a permanent transfer, depending on his performances, etc, would make sense.

On his day he can be a very good defender, but he does come with a bit of unnecessary baggage at times.

I would like to see him back in a Hibs jersey, performing consistently but with less rashness. If it doesn't work out he can go back to Watford after the loan period. If it does work out and somehow we cannot secure him permanently then so be it.

Know there are a few 'ifs' in my post, which kind of sums Porteous up a bit. If only he didn't do this, if he only did that. There is a good player in there, no doubt. Just needs to smooth out the rough edges he has.

[The Tubs]

I know Porteous has brought some of it on himself, but my biggest concern would be the treatment he gets from refs.

[Nicho87]

All went quiet with xavi Simons

[noucampos]

I know Porteous has brought some of it on himself, but my biggest concern would be the treatment he gets from refs.

Absolutely this. He left a marked man and he will be again if we resign him.

[NAE NOOKIE]

I know Porteous has brought some of it on himself, but my biggest concern would be the treatment he gets from refs.

There's little doubt he was more likely to get booked or sent off than a lot of other players in this league.

From a half assed search on line it looks like he accrued 9 yellow cards and no reds in 76 games for Watford, which for a defender I would imagine is below average in that league. A stat like that in England does nothing to dispel the theory that in Scotland he was targeted by refs.

He also scored 7 goals in those 76 games.

Mind you, he made an utter mug of himself in the friendly with Watford at Easter Road to allow Harry McKirdy to score his only goal for Hibs .... not his finest moment :greengrin

[worcesterhibby]

Absolutely this. He left a marked man and he will be again if we resign him.

the only way he can clear his name and get a fair deal from refs uo here would be to sign for the infirm.

[J-C]

For all his wee issues, Porteous is still a quality player who'd improve us, show me any player at the level we're playing at that doesn't have flaws.

[Hibs Go Bragh]

I think Iredale's consistency has been the biggest shock this season. I genuinely think you prob count the mistakes he's made on 1 hand and that includes a nothing stray pass. When you take into count he wasn't even playing consistently before it's a ridiculous level of performance to maintain.

Iredale is the best defender in the league and I won't be convinced otherwise.


If Porto is a replacement for Rocky then the debate about who's better between the two is fair enough but hopefully Porto will be playing along side Rocky in which case we need to be debating whether he's better than Miller and O'Hora, which I think he is.


Jack Iredale is better than them all though and as head of his fan club I'd appreciate it if his name was left out of the debate :greengrin

[Donegal Hibby]

You pulled the equivalent one of these to try to make Porteous look bad, but didnae bother with this one which is hardly a glowing endorsement of Simons.

https://x.com/wt_analysis/status/1821539266859552878?s=46&t=D_9KaoRnzKU_iJPtdJwUXQ

Tells me you’re slightly bias.

Not all . I didn’t bother with the your one because I simply didn’t come across it , if I had I would have posted it like what I posted on him that had quite a few mixed opinions from he was a good solid reliable player to he won’t be missed … thanks for posting it though :aok:

[Tambo]

Probably nothing in it, Doig linked with Celtic today.

[Donegal Hibby]

I think his mindset is important for sure. It’s something that we’d have to trust SDG and Malky Mackay on deciding it they think he’d be a welcome addition to the changing room. They haven’t gotten it wrong so far so whatever they decide I’d trust is right.

What other fans say of Porto is of no interest to me personally, he’s out of favour and thus will not be spoken well about. You can look at any forum for any out of sorts player and find comments that would back up your point to not sign them. If you went deep enough about Rocky you’d find the same here.

The mindset is important as it is the main issue and as I said there is no doubting when that’s right he is a good player. I agree it’s something we will have to trust Gray and Mackay on though hopefully we won’t need to if Rocky stays . Fair enough too in you don’t have any interest in other fan’s opinions about Porto or other players , personally I always find them interesting in what they think of players strengths and weaknesses or their character in general and how they are getting on that their clubs even though they may vary at times .👍

[easty]

Probably nothing in it, Doig linked with Celtic today.

I hope not. Signing for Celtc to be understudy to Tierney isn’t the right move for his career.

I hope he stays in Italy.

[EGL2000]

Probably nothing in it, Doig linked with Celtic today.

Surely not never going to get in ahead of Tierney, would be a very poor move for him in my eyes.

[Alex Trager]

Surely not never going to get in ahead of Tierney, would be a very poor move for him in my eyes.

The amount of time KT spends injured, I’d expect anyone to get about 70% of a season being his back up.

Would agree though.
A daft move.

If Juventus are sniffing about, as was suggested, that would be a far better move IMO.

A massive club that he would be daft to ignore.

Not sure what the left back position is like at the old lady mind.

[Tambo]

https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-rangers-set-sights-on-sensational-christian-eriksen-deal/

How do you think he would do up here?

[Paulie Walnuts]

The amount of time KT spends injured, I’d expect anyone to get about 70% of a season being his back up.

Would agree though.
A daft move.

If Juventus are sniffing about, as was suggested, that would be a far better move IMO.

A massive club that he would be daft to ignore.

Not sure what the left back position is like at the old lady mind.

Andrea Cambiaso often plays left back. Scored for Italy the other day, sure Man City are meant to be looking at him though so could open the door for Doig.

[Thatdayinmay16]

https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-rangers-set-sights-on-sensational-christian-eriksen-deal/

How do you think he would do up here?

Technically still a very good player, however I can't see Rangers being his destination. He'll still have suiters down south who can pay more and are closer to home.

[MacGruber]

According to reports, Sunderland preparing a £10m bid for Lennon Miller

Still never seen anything from him any time watched him for Motherwell. Not saying he's not as good as made out, clearly everyone thinks so, just not seen any of it. If someone said we were up against a 10 million pound midfielder in our games v Well last season would have assumed he'd missed all those games injured. If someone said to me you could pick one midfielder from Well for Hibs I'd have picked Slattery (Well really Miller if for nothing else to sell him on, but you get the point).

I think I'd make a terrible scout!

[Lago]

Maybe there should be a dedicated Porteous thread, just saying 🤔

[Donegal Hibby]

Celtic after a winger …
https://x.com/AnthonyRJoseph/status/1932526183645954086

[Pete70]

Villa absolutely shafted us with 2.5m for McGinn.

The up front fee was £2.75m was it not. IIRC there was also add-ons for promotion to the Premiership and avoiding relegation. I think we got about £4m in total. Still a pittance though.

[Donegal Hibby]

Seamus Coleman rumoured to have been offered another year deal at Everton . What a servant he’s been to them . Glad for him as he’s a really good guy in all .

[tamig]

Villa absolutely shafted us with 2.5m for McGinn.

They really didn’t. Not sure what gives you that impression.

[Unseen work]

Porteous made plenty mistakes, I’ve been very critical of him too.

More towards the end, I think out of frustration at how we were playing and probably the standard of player - similar to how fans felt. He looked like he was of a “I’ll do it myself” which meant he’d rampage over the pitch to try win the ball back, often exposing gaps and resulting in him making mistakes.

However, under SDG and with the other players we now have at the club, I think he’d be a lot more settled and his game would be massively simplified.

Would 100% take him back

[Thatdayinmay16]

They really didn’t. Not sure what gives you that impression.

They really did. Not sure what gives you the impression that they didn't.

[Hibees1973]

They really did. Not sure what gives you the impression that they didn't.

The only club who tried to shaft us were Celtic. Which is why we did not sell to them.

Market forces...McGinn was in the last year of his contract and one else came in which is why we accepted their bid.

To suggest Villa shafted us is cr*p.

[tamig]

The only club who tried to shaft us were Celtic. Which is why we did not sell to them.

Market forces...McGinn was in the last year of his contract and one else came in which is why we accepted their bid.

To suggest Villa shafted us is cr*p.

Correct. Beat me to it. In addition, Villa were a Championship club unlike Sunderland - if that’s where the other poster is getting his shafted nonsense from.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Villa didn’t shaft us but it’s mad what we got for McGinn and you see the figures talked about for Miller. Surely no one is paying that kind of money for him with a year left on his deal.


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[Thatdayinmay16]

The only club who tried to shaft us were Celtic. Which is why we did not sell to them.

Market forces...McGinn was in the last year of his contract and one else came in which is why we accepted their bid.

To suggest Villa shafted us is cr*p.

Lennon Miller's contract expires in May 2026, surely it must mean that Motherwell are only due 2-3M due to "Market Forces"?

But in today's market if Lennon Miller is worth 10M in his final year of his contract, then so was John McGinn.

Maybe harsh to say they shafted us, but 2.75M was not a true reflection of what we should have sold John McGinn for.

[Real Emerald]

If Porto had been linked with Rangers we’d all be well pissed off that he wasn’t coming to us as we all know he’d do a great job for someone else. I’d welcome him back but hope Rocky stays too. 🤞

[Donegal Hibby]

They really did. Not sure what gives you the impression that they didn't.

With SJM’s contract situation the way it was we probably got as much for him as we were going to get in the end ..

For me if their was anyone to blame for how much we got in the end I blamed Celtic and their low-ball offers because they thought they were going to get him anyhow…

Was delighted when Villa came in and him and they were left looking incredible stupid because they **** up which they did :greengrin

[Wilson]

With SJM’s contract situation the way it was we probably got as much for him as we were going to get in the end ..

For me if their was anyone to blame for how much we got in the end I blamed Celtic and their low-ball offers because they thought they were going to get him anyhow…

Was delighted when Villa came in and him and they were left looking incredible stupid because they **** up which they did :greengrin

That is the way to look at it. What a tremendous servant he has been for Villa. What a tremendous servant he could have been to Celtic. The only ones shafted were Celtc - and they did it to themselves!

[Thatdayinmay16]

Correct. Beat me to it. In addition, Villa were a Championship club unlike Sunderland - if that’s where the other poster is getting his shafted nonsense from.

Not nonsense but glad to see its bothered you so badly.

10m for a club who have spent the best part of the last 10 years struggling in the English football league compared to a club with Billionaire investors who spent 2 years in the Championship and came back up at 2nd time of asking with the 3rd richest owners in the PL to add to that.

10m for Lennon Miller who's spent his Motherwell career playing bottom 6 football.

John McGinn who was bossing the SPFL at the time of his departure along with having played regular European football.

[blackpoolhibs]

Porto in a good hibs side will be a huge asset, its when he has to force things and take risks that does him no favours.

We are decent now, and he does not need to break into midfield trying to push us forward, and with other good quality signings we can be even better, i hopefully include him in that.

[CropleyWasGod]

Lennon Miller's contract expires in May 2026, surely it must mean that Motherwell are only due 2-3M due to "Market Forces"?

But in today's market if Lennon Miller is worth 10M in his final year of his contract, then so was John McGinn.

Maybe harsh to say they shafted us, but 2.75M was not a true reflection of what we should have sold John McGinn for.

Who was willing to pay more?

A player is only worth whatever another club is willing to pay for them.

[Donegal Hibby]

That is the way to look at it. What a tremendous servant he has been for Villa. What a tremendous servant he could have been to Celtic. The only ones shafted were Celtc - and they did it to themselves!

Absolutely and it’s something even today they regret and annoys them in if they had of done things right and fair in the beginning they’d probably have got him .. Ah well , what a pity :greengrin

[Tyler Durden]

Not nonsense but glad to see its bothered you so badly.

10m for a club who have spent the best part of the last 10 years struggling in the English football league compared to a club with Billionaire investors who spent 2 years in the Championship and came back up at 2nd time of asking with the 3rd richest owners in the PL to add to that.

10m for Lennon Miller who's spent his Motherwell career playing bottom 6 football.

John McGinn who was bossing the SPFL at the time of his departure along with having played regular European football.

I must have missed the confirmed news today that Motherwell have received £10m for Lennon Miller.

Also it wasn't yesterday that McGinn left. We're 7 years on and the market has changed. Hibs are being linked with players for £1m.

[tamig]

Not nonsense but glad to see its bothered you so badly.

10m for a club who have spent the best part of the last 10 years struggling in the English football league compared to a club with Billionaire investors who spent 2 years in the Championship and came back up at 2nd time of asking with the 3rd richest owners in the PL to add to that.

10m for Lennon Miller who's spent his Motherwell career playing bottom 6 football.

John McGinn who was bossing the SPFL at the time of his departure along with having played regular European football.

John McGinn left us 7 years ago. The transfer market has changed a lot in that time. We didn’t have EPL clubs queueing up to sign SJM. We got a fair offer from Villa - at that time. As the other poster said, Celtic were the ones trying to shaft us. Shafted by Villa is nonsense - which you have almost acknowledged yourself. Different times, different market.

[AgentDaleCooper]

I think a big factor is the success of Scottish players in Italy - definitely a great thing going forward, but it's annoying to think what we might have got for SJM had Scottish players not been grossly undervalued at that time.

[Iain G]

I think a big factor is the success of Scottish players in Italy - definitely a great thing going forward, but it's annoying to think what we might have got for SJM had Scottish players not been grossly undervalued at that time.

Maybe Porto would do well in Italy?

[EGL2000]

I think a big factor is the success of Scottish players in Italy - definitely a great thing going forward, but it's annoying to think what we might have got for SJM had Scottish players not been grossly undervalued at that time.

The Scottish clubs are partly to blame for our own players being undervalued. You don't need to accept bids from other teams. When you look at some comparable leagues even leagues of lower standard they are achieving more for players than our league. Need to starting putting the foot down more. This comes for all are young talents getting hoovered up for pennies as well. I know it's easier said than done though.

[tamig]

Maybe Porto would do well in Italy?

The new Gentile 😬

[cabbageandribs1875]

The Scottish clubs are partly to blame for our own players being undervalued. You don't need to accept bids from other teams. When you look at some comparable leagues even leagues of lower standard they are achieving more for players than our league. Need to starting putting the foot down more. This comes for all are young talents getting hoovered up for pennies as well. I know it's easier said than done though.


*sometimes the ball is in the players court, we either have an unhappy player(example=nisbet) or the player will just run down his contract and our clubs get next to nothing.




*most times

[superfurryhibby]

He does improve us though, regardless of how you look at it, up until LJ had walked in the door, Ryan was apart of a hibs side that had conceded the least amount of goals outside of the old firm for 2 season if I am not mistaken.

Absolutely no disputing his performances dropped in the months leading up to his departure.

If you're suggesting to me he isn't a greater option than Warren O'Hora or Lewis Miller at RCB then your mistaken.

You're not really addressing my points, just comparing him to our current centre backs. As I said, there's more to being a good footballer that innate ability.

Porteous' performances were erratic and cost the side too often. Which seasons were our goals conceded so low? When he played with players like Hanlon, Ambrose, Macgregor ?

[tug.lismore]

If Hibs end up with Porteous, Bushiri, Iredale, O'Hora and Ekpiteta as the choices for a back three with both Obita and Miller as further options then I think that we will be in a very good place.

Not sure how likely it is but hopefully the competition for places would push standards upwards.

In central midfield, if we get Triantis back and maybe Simons then added to McGrath and a virtual new signing in Manneh then again it looks like we have options and competition.

Working on the assumption that Vente and Youan leave then we probably need at least one wide attacking player and maybe two forwards especially if Hoillet doesn't resign.

Probably the best position we have been in a this time of year for many years.

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[04Sauzee]

Scott Burns

🇱🇻🇱🇻Hearts make pitch to land Nigerian striker Uchenna Ogundu.🇱🇻🇱🇻

[superfurryhibby]

If Hibs end up with Porteous, Bushiri, Iredale, O'Hora and Ekpiteta as the choices for a back three with both Obita and Miller as further options then I think that we will be in a very good place.

Not sure how likely it is but hopefully the competition for places would push standards upwards.

In central midfield, if we get Triantis back and maybe Simons then added to McGrath and a virtual new signing in Manneh then again it looks like we have options and competition.

Working on the assumption that Vente and Youan leave then we probably need at least one wide attacking player and maybe two forwards especially if Hoillet doesn't resign.

Probably the best position we have been in a this time of year for many years.

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I suspect we'll see one or more from Miller, O'Hora and Ekpiteta depart if Porteous comes back.

Triantis would be the icing on the midfield cake, but his return would surely trigger departures in the central areas too.

Up front looks like there are going to be incomers, with Gayle, Vente and Youan departing and Myko's loan over. Would like Hoilett for another year and a couple of different options as strikers.

[Donegal Hibby]

Northern echo running with the same story that Sunderland are looking for over £1m for Triantis . I wonder how much more than a million they might want ? …

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/25232484.sunderland-nectar-triantis-transfer-stance-amid-hibs-interest/

[Stuart93]

Scott Burns

🇱🇻🇱🇻Hearts make pitch to land Nigerian striker Uchenna Ogundu.🇱🇻🇱🇻

Signing/rumoured to be signing some amount of players

[tug.lismore]

I suspect we'll one or more from Miller, O'Hora and Ekpiteta depart if Porteous comes back.

Triantis would be the icing on the midfield cake, but his return would surely trigger departures in the central areas too.

Up front looks like there are going to be incomers, with Gayle, Vente and Youan departing and Myko's loan over. Would like Hoilett for another year and a couple of different options as strikers.I suspect that you are right. O'Hora and Ekpiteta were brought in to be the first choice centre half pairing. Neither will likely be happy to be second fiddle yet again. However, we need a decent sized squad for the coming season so if we can keep two out of them and Miller we will be in a good place.

If Porteous comes in but Bushiri does not resign then we could do worse than go into the season with the 6 options I previously named.

Plenty of opportunity for O'Hora and Ekpiteta to show what they can do when Porteous is suspended.

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[tamig]

Northern echo running with the same story that Sunderland are looking for over £1m for Triantis . I wonder how much more than a million they might want ? …

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/25232484.sunderland-nectar-triantis-transfer-stance-amid-hibs-interest/

I’m not sure its that big a deal. I think the board will provide the cash for this - if Triantis wants to sign for us. The big danger is interest from other clubs and if he fancies a different challenge. Big decision for him with the World Cup in mind.

[Paul1642]

If Hibs end up with Porteous, Bushiri, Iredale, O'Hora and Ekpiteta as the choices for a back three with both Obita and Miller as further options then I think that we will be in a very good place.

Not sure how likely it is but hopefully the competition for places would push standards upwards.

In central midfield, if we get Triantis back and maybe Simons then added to McGrath and a virtual new signing in Manneh then again it looks like we have options and competition.

Working on the assumption that Vente and Youan leave then we probably need at least one wide attacking player and maybe two forwards especially if Hoillet doesn't resign.

Probably the best position we have been in a this time of year for many years.

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There’s still uncertainty over lots of moves but if we end up with all the rumoured players in from:

New signings rumours: Porto and Simons
New contract for Rocky
Sign form last Seasons loan:
Triantis and Myko
Already confirmed - GK and McGrath (plus Manneh from Jan)

We would be one striker to replace Gayle away from the strongest Hibs team in generations.

That back line would be so strong.

[Prof. Shaggy]

Signing/rumoured to be signing some amount of players

They'll need them all for their epic European Campaign!

[Waxy]

They'll need them all for their epic European Campaign!

I suppose Dunfermline is in Europe.

[Donegal Hibby]

I’m not sure its that big a deal. I think the board will provide the cash for this - if Triantis wants to sign for us. The big danger is interest from other clubs and if he fancies a different challenge. Big decision for him with the World Cup in mind.

Fair enough T . I just thought if it was say 1.2 then it would be doable but if it was going upwards of 1.4 then maybe that would be reaching a point where its going beyond what we might be able to do . I suppose it does boil down to wither he fancies a different challenge or the security in he knows our club and he’ll get regular game time at us if we agree a fee of course .

[Since452]

Northern echo running with the same story that Sunderland are looking for over £1m for Triantis . I wonder how much more than a million they might want ? …

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/25232484.sunderland-nectar-triantis-transfer-stance-amid-hibs-interest/

I think we'd have seen our first million pound signing had we had guaranteed European group stage football. That shock Aberdeen win could be a sliding doors moment for our club.

[Since90+2]

Lennon Miller won't go for 10 million. That's just silly. They might get half that.

We also need to remember that he's only 18 and already a full Scottish international. I don't think McGinn played for Scotland until he was 20/21.

[Paul1642]

Lennon Miller won't go for 10 million. That's just silly. They might get half that.

We also need to remember that he's only 18 and already a full Scottish international. I don't think McGinn played for Scotland until he was 20/21.

1 year left on his contract doesn’t put Motherwell in all that strong a position surely.

[Unseen work]

Scott Burns

🇱🇻🇱🇻Hearts make pitch to land Nigerian striker Uchenna Ogundu.🇱🇻🇱🇻

They’re either going to be absolutely unbelievable next season or absolutely horrendous

[jeffers]

Scott Burns

🇱🇻🇱🇻Hearts make pitch to land Nigerian striker Uchenna Ogundu.🇱🇻🇱🇻

Must be a big lad if he needs his own pitch.

[JimBHibees]

Who was willing to pay more?

A player is only worth whatever another club is willing to pay for them.

Indeed

[Nicho87]

Scott Burns

🇱🇻🇱🇻Hearts make pitch to land Nigerian striker Uchenna Ogundu.🇱🇻🇱🇻

Genuianly thought this was a wind up as read it as

U Ken ur gona go under

[Donegal Hibby]

Another ex-Hibs player on the move …

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/content/egan-riley-set-to-leave-for-france

[Billy Whizz]

Another ex-Hibs player on the move …

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/content/egan-riley-set-to-leave-for-france

Strange, he played nearly every week last season

[tamig]

I think we'd have seen our first million pound signing had we had guaranteed European group stage football. That shock Aberdeen win could be a sliding doors moment for our club.

The sliding doors moment is missing out on the automatic group stuff. I have full confidence the board will back the manager big time this transfer window. I think we’ll break our transfer record - possibly more than once.

[Fergus52]

Which seasons were our goals conceded so low? When he played with players like Hanlon, Ambrose, Macgregor ?

IIRC our best defensive season was when we came third under Ross - when Porto was our main player in defence next to an ageing Hanlon and Paul McGinn

[tamig]

IIRC our best defensive season was when we came third under Ross - when Porto was our main player in defence next to an ageing Hanlon and Paul McGinn

Lol. Paul Hanlon was only 30 that season. Hardly “ageing” no? Although I guess that every being on this planet is ageing from the moment they are born.

[Fergus52]

Lol. Paul Hanlon was only 30 that season. Hardly “ageing” no? Although I guess that every being on this planet is ageing from the moment they are born.

He was generally solid that season but I remember him beginning to slow down a bit, and having a few poor games compared to his peak around 2016-2018

[keep the faith]

Northern echo running with the same story that Sunderland are looking for over £1m for Triantis . I wonder how much more than a million they might want ? …

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/25232484.sunderland-nectar-triantis-transfer-stance-amid-hibs-interest/

We were ready to pay 1M for Mcgowan. This is a no brainer. Vente will fund most or all of that fee.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

£10m for Motherwell. Yet another club who are pulling away from us in terms of finance. We’ll be lucky to make top 6 next year.

:greengrin

[B.H.F.C]

Strange, he played nearly every week last season

The south of France and Champions League football obviously holds more appeal than Burnley and a relegation battle.

[CapitalGreen]

IIRC our best defensive season was when we came third under Ross - when Porto was our main player in defence next to an ageing Hanlon and Paul McGinn

Our defensive record that league season is our 2nd best* since we won the league with the Famous Five 75 years ago!

*top flight only obviously

[eastmainsmsh]

Scott Burns

🇱🇻🇱🇻Hearts make pitch to land Nigerian striker Uchenna Ogundu.🇱🇻🇱🇻

No danger that's a Mcinnes target

[EGL2000]

Strange, he played nearly every week last season

Surely everyone in this group is taking Marseille over Burnley. Huge club with a really good manager and young talented squad. Champions league football, living in the south of France. Absolute no brainer for me.

[EGL2000]

Fair enough T . I just thought if it was say 1.2 then it would be doable but if it was going upwards of 1.4 then maybe that would be reaching a point where its going beyond what we might be able to do . I suppose it does boil down to wither he fancies a different challenge or the security in he knows our club and he’ll get regular game time at us if we agree a fee of course .

I genuinely think this singing is about as risk free as they can get right now. Only way we wouldn't at least double are money in a season is if he had a horror injury. Spend the money get him in on a long deal with the guarantee that he can move on once his valuation is met.

[ShadesLongThrow]

Scott Burns

🇱🇻🇱🇻Hearts make pitch to land Nigerian striker Uchenna Ogundu.🇱🇻🇱🇻

Don’t think they’ve announced their departure list yet. Can only imagine there’s a load they will be getting rid off to make way for these new superstars.

[Auckland Hibs]

Don’t think they’ve announced their departure list yet. Can only imagine there’s a load they will be getting rid off to make way for these new superstars.

Always surprises me how many players they seem to recruit every year - as a player joining them, you pretty much have a season to perform or you're gone. They must have spent a pretty penny on payoffs over the years.

[ThatDayInMay]

Xavier Simons was up last week but is also talking to other clubs. Should be a decision very soon.

It is still the waiting game with Nectarios Triantis and on Rocky Bushiri’s contract.

Hibs are also interested in a versatile defender from England who has previous Scottish Premiership experience.

Ryan Porteous would be dependent on Rocky Bushiri’s decision.

Hibs tried to get him in January but haven’t renewed that interest this summer.

They could, however, if Bushiri was to decide he was to move on.

[Gmack7]

Don’t think they’ve announced their departure list yet. Can only imagine there’s a load they will be getting rid off to make way for these new superstars.

I'm sure they have, there wasn't many out of contract McKay and Grant were 2.
They have a load of players under contract they'll be trying to move on

[Unseen work]

Xavier Simons was up last week but is also talking to other clubs. Should be a decision very soon.

It is still the waiting game with Nectarios Triantis and on Rocky Bushiri’s contract.

Hibs are also interested in a versatile defender from England who has previous Scottish Premiership experience.

Ryan Porteous would be dependent on Rocky Bushiri’s decision.

Hibs tried to get him in January but haven’t renewed that interest this summer.

They could, however, if Bushiri was to decide he was to move on.

Is the other defender Jason Kerr? Or a random guess is Hakeem Odoffin, previously of Hamilton

Played right of a back 3, centre half and defensive mid

[CapitalGreen]

Is the other defender Jason Kerr? Or a random guess is Hakeem Odoffin, previously of Hamilton

Played right of a back 3, centre half and defensive mid

Not sure Kerr would be described as versatile.

[ThatDayInMay]

Is the other defender Jason Kerr? Or a random guess is Hakeem Odoffin, previously of Hamilton

Played right of a back 3, centre half and defensive mid

Been told it is Odoffin. Dundee United looking at him too. Also been told it’s likely that Rocky is away. Hopefully the latter isn’t true.

[Donegal Hibby]

Been told it is Odoffin. Dundee United looking at him too. Also been told it’s likely that Rocky is away. Hopefully the latter isn’t true.

Disappointing if true about Rocky though not unexpected as he will probably have better offers than what we can offer. I don’t really remember Odoffin tbh .

[ShadesLongThrow]

I'm sure they have, there wasn't many out of contract McKay and Grant were 2.
They have a load of players under contract they'll be trying to move on

Looks like you’re right. They’ve released 5 and still have a squad in excess of 30.

[yerauldda]

Odoffin would be a good signing. We wanted him when he left Hamilton and has done well down south. Rotherham wanted to keep him.

[sauzee1989]

Triantis was at Edinburgh airport a few hours ago but sadly leaving not arriving

[tamig]

Looks like you’re right. They’ve released 5 and still have a squad in excess of 30.

Its getting to the levels of the days of Mad Vlad. McInnes will be doing well to try and get some harmony into a bloated squad of that size. I wonder if he’s thinking “WTF have I come into here?” yet?

[MacGruber]

Triantis was at Edinburgh airport a few hours ago but sadly leaving not arriving

Going back to clear his locker at Sunderland after having signed

[Paul1642]

Triantis was at Edinburgh airport a few hours ago but sadly leaving not arriving

Signed the contact and away to celebrate with holiday? ;)

Imagine if he was just away down to Sunderland he wouldn’t fly.

[Col2]

Its getting to the levels of the days of Mad Vlad. McInnes will be doing well to try and get some harmony into a bloated squad of that size. I wonder if he’s thinking “WTF have I come into here?” yet?

It’s a total rag tag bunch of misfits. He has no spine of a team and even worse if he loses Prentice and Shankland. They are so scunnered that they are getting super excited signing 20 year old 2nd division unknowns for -£400k cause the supercomputer told them to. The whole fan base has a new endless level of knowledge around “analytics” and “player trading model”. McInnes must wonder WTF.

[SHODAN]

Imagine being told a year or two ago that Ryan Porteous was the back up plan if Rocky Bushiri didn't sign a new contract.

[04Sauzee]

🚨 EXCLUSIVE! Motherwell hold talks with Mo Sylla after Dundee exit | @ScottBurns75 ✍️

dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football…

[Paulie Walnuts]

IIRC our best defensive season was when we came third under Ross - when Porto was our main player in defence next to an ageing Hanlon and Paul McGinn

Porteous got dropped for a 4 game spell that season because he had a poor run. He was also pipped to YPOTY by Doig, who was also part of that defence. Hanlon played more minutes and started more games whilst captaining the side to third. He also made his international debut at the start of that season.

To claim Porteous was the main man is revisionism in the extreme.

[Ribs1875]

Imagine being told a year or two ago that Ryan Porteous was the back up plan if Rocky Bushiri didn't sign a new contract.

I am not surprised in the slightest by that. Porteous as much as I rate his ability and talent as a footballer. The guy is a liability and needs to grow up. Rocky I always thought there was a player in there who would come good for us.

[CapitalGreen]

Porteous got dropped for a 4 game spell that season because he had a poor run. He was also pipped to YPOTY by Doig. Hanlon played more minutes and started more games whilst captaining the side to third. He also made his international debut at the start of that season.

To claim Porteous was the main man is revisionism in the extreme.

It’s not “revisionism in the extreme” to hold the opinion that Porteous was our best defender that season. It’s probably akin to someone having the opinion that Rocky had a better season than Iredale this year or vice versa, it’s simply a subjective opinion. The whole defence was excellent that season and he was major part of it. Revisionism would be trying to play down any of their contributions to what was one of our best seasons defensively in our history.

[Paulie Walnuts]

It’s not “revisionism in the extreme” to hold the opinion that Porteous was our best defender that season. It’s probably akin to someone having the opinion that Rocky had a better season than Iredale this year or vice versa, it’s simply a subjective opinion. The whole defence was excellent that season and he was major part of it. Revisionism would be trying to play down any of their contributions to what was one of our best seasons defensively in our history.

It is when it really wasn’t the reality. It’s only being trotted out now to try and make a case for signing him.

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?352427-Player-of-the-year

The thread from that time has only one mention of Ryan Porteous on it.. and that mention is to point out how well Paul McGinn has done considering he has Porteous playing inside him.

There’s also these threads from the end of that season, it’s hardly gushing with praise with an almost unanimous feeling that he shouldn’t have been starting in the biggest game of the season such were his performance levels.

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?351958-Ryan-porteous

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?352061-Porteous-or-Daz

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?352306-Porteous

Josh Doig was also part of that defence and won our YPOTY and YPOTY for the whole league, an award that Porteous was eligible for.

Ryan Porteous was part of a very good defence that year. That’s all he was though, a part, along with numerous others, a good few of which had better seasons. Claiming he was the main man, completely ignoring Doig when listing who he played alongside and claiming Hanlon, who was better than him and was playing so well he got called up for his first full Scotland cap during the season was an “ageing” centre half as if he was carrying him along absolutely is revisionism.

[Donegal Hibby]

🚨 EXCLUSIVE! Motherwell hold talks with Mo Sylla after Dundee exit | @ScottBurns75 ✍️

dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football…

Dundee are going to be in serious trouble this season , strange Motherwell holding talks with this player when they haven’t appointed a manager I would have thought unless maybe it’s Docherty they’ve lined up for the job . 🤔

[MacGruber]

Just woke up bleary eyed to The Scotsmans headline of '£700K Triantis Returns' Couple seconds joy before reading the article and just being a puff piece. Naughty.

[Ship of Hope]

Just woke up bleary eyed to The Scotsmans headline of '£700K Triantis Returns' Couple seconds joy before reading the article and just being a puff piece. Naughty.

Haha.. I got mugged off too. Didn’t read the article.. the first part of the headline was enough. Naughty is very polite.

[04Sauzee]

Stromsgodset winger Marko Farji is on Hearts’ transfer radar - with Scottish Premiership rivals Aberdeen also showing interest.

[Since452]

Aberdeen and Hearts both appear to be pretty busy. Mind you 5th and 7th best teams in Scotland would need to be.

[JohnM1875]

Aberdeen and Hearts both appear to be pretty busy. Mind you 5th and 7th best teams in Scotland would need to be.

Exactly that, I’m usually going tonto about lack of signings, but I’m so chilled about this window. Have full belief that we’re targeting specific players for areas we need.

Probably sign five more this summer I Reckon. Not including McGrath and Sallinger.

[BILLYHIBS]

Same thing happened last season Hesrts did all their shopping early buying up all the has beens, Aussies, rejects and yesterday’s men and how they were going for world domination according to Mickey Stewart

That ended well

As someone else said I wonder what Derek McInnes really makes of it all ?

Time will tell

[BoomtownHibees]

Same thing happened last season Hesrts did all their shopping early buying up all the has beens, Aussies, rejects and yesterday’s men and how they were going for world domination according to Mickey Stewart

That ended well

As someone else said I wonder what Derek McInnes really makes of it all ?

Time will tell

What Aussies did they buy?

[BILLYHIBS]

What Aussies did they buy?

Hands up don’t pay any attention to Hearts they have that wee prick Devlin who has been about for some time did they not buy Rowles who was decent but they cashed in on ?

Been pulled on my lack of yam knowledge before

Always have to buy a programme every time we play them to keep up to date with their ever changing over bloated squad

Mea culpa

Edit

What about that boy Nieuwenhof ?

Know nothing about him might be an Aussie ?

[jacomo]

Aberdeen and Hearts both appear to be pretty busy. Mind you 5th and 7th best teams in Scotland would need to be.


We've already signed a keeper, and one with a really good reputation. And McGrath of course.

Three more good signings and our squad looks very peachy. Don't think Dons or Jambos would say the same.

[Donegal Hibby]

I see on the Swansea forum they were talking about reducing the size of their squad by moving on some fringe players. We actually got a mention along with Derby in “ we really need Derby and Hibs to get their cheque books out ‘ take it that was referring to us about Myko . I don’t know if Derby was for another player or are interested in Myko . At the right price would folk be happy to see him back or think we should move on ?

[JohnM1875]

I see on the Swansea forum they were talking about reducing the size of their squad by moving on some fringe players. We actually got a mention along with Derby in “ we really need Derby and Hibs to get their cheque books out ‘ take it that was referring to us about Myko . I don’t know if Derby was for another player or are interested in Myko . At the right price would folk be happy to see him back or think we should move on ?

At the right price, absolutely. Could see he was getting better as the season went on.

[Gmack7]

I see on the Swansea forum they were talking about reducing the size of their squad by moving on some fringe players. We actually got a mention along with Derby in “ we really need Derby and Hibs to get their cheque books out ‘ take it that was referring to us about Myko . I don’t know if Derby was for another player or are interested in Myko . At the right price would folk be happy to see him back or think we should move on ?

I don't think the fee would be the issue but what Myko is currently earning, I'd be happy to see him back though

[King Cosell]

I see on the Swansea forum they were talking about reducing the size of their squad by moving on some fringe players. We actually got a mention along with Derby in “ we really need Derby and Hibs to get their cheque books out ‘ take it that was referring to us about Myko . I don’t know if Derby was for another player or are interested in Myko . At the right price would folk be happy to see him back or think we should move on ?

We'd have to match the wages Swansea are paying him over the next 2 years and pay a transfer fee, and he's unlikely to be one of our strongest XI. Not happening.

[Centre Hawf]

We'd have to match the wages Swansea are paying him over the next 2 years and pay a transfer fee, and he's unlikely to be one of our strongest XI. Not happening.

Not necessarily, we can offer what we would normally offer him and Swansea can agree with him to pay the difference in the two wages for a period. Transfer fee could be nominal as well, all depends on how desperate they are to save some money.

[Donegal Hibby]

We'd have to match the wages Swansea are paying him over the next 2 years and pay a transfer fee, and he's unlikely to be one of our strongest XI. Not happening.

I think he has just over a year left in his contract . If the rumours are true what he’s getting at Swansea wage wise I think he is more than likely going to have to take a fairly significant wage drop where ever he goes and Swansea will get nothing remotely close to what they paid for him which was daft on their part anyhow. Might be a long shot though you never know in football.

[SHODAN]

Kuharevich wants to come back so I would assume he knows it'd be a fairly significant wage cut.

[eastmainsmsh]

Kuharevich wants to come back so I would assume he knows it'd be a fairly significant wage cut.

Wouldn't be against Myko coming back he offers something different up front if he can add goals then even better

[Unseen work]

I still like to think we can get better than Myk, albeit his form did improve a lot the last 5 games or so

[500miles]

Wouldn't be against Myko coming back he offers something different up front if he can add goals then even better


I expect that finding a stable home, games and a manager will benefit his development. Had a very stop and start career until last season, but I genuinely believe his top end potential is way above the SPFL.

Plenty of players have had potential though.


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[Stuart93]

I’d want better than Myko.

He’s decent for off the bench and putting himself about but I’m still not convinced

[tamig]

I’d want better than Myko.

He’s decent for off the bench and putting himself about but I’m still not convinced

Yet we had some of our best performances at the business end of the season with him starting. As others have correctly mentioned, his form was improving as the season went on. Would love to sign him permanently.

[Donegal Hibby]

At the right price, absolutely. Could see he was getting better as the season went on.

I get why there’s split opinions on him though I think he offered us something a bit different and the potential is there in he can improve . If the deal was right I wouldn’t be against bringing him back again . It will be interesting to see if we try as Triantis and him were two players I think Gray wanted back when he became manager.

[Thatdayinmay16]

You're not really addressing my points, just comparing him to our current centre backs. As I said, there's more to being a good footballer that innate ability.

Porteous' performances were erratic and cost the side too often. Which seasons were our goals conceded so low? When he played with players like Hanlon, Ambrose, Macgregor ?

Can you explain what performances were "Erratic" the season we finished 3rd?

We conceded 50 goals last season.
We conceded 35 the season the last time we finished 3rd.
The season following that we conceded 42.

Ryan was an integral part of both defences and mostly one of the first names picked by multiple managers.

I think I'll take the word of the countless coaches who called upon him and the multiple championships sides who were interested in signing him.

[NAE NOOKIE]

I’d want better than Myko.

He’s decent for off the bench and putting himself about but I’m still not convinced

Tend to agree with this, Myko has seemed half fit all season and you have to wonder if he has it in him to up his fitness to a standard where it would be worth Hibs busting a gut to keep him. I'm not saying I would be against him staying, but I wouldn't want us to be blowing a large part of our budget on procuring him.

Was wondering about Sam Dalby after his good season with Dundee United, but it seems he has signed a 4 year deal with Bolton ... ho hum.

[Dan Sarf]

From the Guardian Rumour Mill

Sunderland are awaiting offers for the midfielder Nectarios Triantis. The Premier League newcomers want around £1.5m in exchange for his services after an impressive season on loan at Hibernian. Fortuna Düsseldorf and MLS clubs are keen on the player who is debating where his international future lies, with Australia and Greece both options.

[Since452]

I still like to think we can get better than Myk, albeit his form did improve a lot the last 5 games or so

I think he did a lot of unseen work (boom boom). He brought a lot to the team even if he wasn't banging them in all the time. I'd like to get him permanently if we could.

[Since452]

If we were to sign Porteous would we be getting a player who was better or no better than the one who was, and let's be honest, struggling in the team before he was sold?

If he's not improved then I dont see the point of bringing him back. Watford sending him out on loan and then losing his place at Preston doesn't give me much confidence.

If he comes back I'll trust Gray to get the best out of him.

[Unseen work]

If we were to sign Porteous would we be getting a player who was better or no better than the one who was, and let's be honest, struggling in the team before he was sold?

If he's not improved then I dont see the point of bringing him back. Watford sending him out on loan and then losing his place at Preston doesn't give me much confidence.

If he comes back I'll trust Gray to get the best out of him.

I’ve not seen Porteous for Watford or Preston, and I agree he wasn’t at his best before he left.

I think out of frustration and a sense he has to do it himself.

But for Scotland, on most occasions I thought he was very good and showed quality and discipline (Germany aside) that he has.

If we were getting him back for the sake of it or without the manager knowing him it would be a different story, but for me Porteous under SDG would be brilliant.

I’d want him to play RCB though and then if we fail to resign Rocky, sign a similar centre back with the athleticism he has

[Thatdayinmay16]

I’ve not seen Porteous for Watford or Preston, and I agree he wasn’t at his best before he left.

I think out of frustration and a sense he has to do it himself.

But for Scotland, on most occasions I thought he was very good and showed quality and discipline (Germany aside) that he has.

If we were getting him back for the sake of it or without the manager knowing him it would be a different story, but for me Porteous under SDG would be brilliant.

I’d want him to play RCB though and then if we fail to resign Rocky, sign a similar centre back with the athleticism he has

He fits the RCB role perfectly, its where he has been best for Scotland.

If we can get a big no nonsense quick centre half with the same profile as Rocky (Or Rocky) if he decides to stay to play the CCB role, then I think our back 3 is sorted.

[GloryGlory]

Logan Jimenez - first pro deal:

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2025/june/12/logan-jimenez-signs-first-pro-deal-/

[EGL2000]

From the Guardian Rumour Mill

Sunderland are awaiting offers for the midfielder Nectarios Triantis. The Premier League newcomers want around £1.5m in exchange for his services after an impressive season on loan at Hibernian. Fortuna Düsseldorf and MLS clubs are keen on the player who is debating where his international future lies, with Australia and Greece both options.

I genuinely think we pay that.

[Tambo]

Logan Jimenez - first pro deal:

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2025/june/12/logan-jimenez-signs-first-pro-deal-/

Well done Logan, i know a lot of the kids never make it to first team football, would still be a proud day for himself and his family.

Regarding Myko, would take him back if its at the right price, knows the club etc and wouldn't take long to adjust and i did feel like near the end of the season he was on good form.

1.5 would be big for us to get Triantis, would be worth the risk of that fee though i think and one we could make some good money on in the future.

[Donegal Hibby]

Livi sign Zak Rudden.

[Donegal Hibby]

I genuinely think we pay that.

I said before I could see us going slightly over the million fee 1.1m or 1.2m which is still serious money for a club like Hibs though 1.5m is getting towards a figure that I think is hitting our limit , maybe there might be be some leeway on it hopefully.

[HoboHarry]

On another note, Napoli are going to have a formidable midfield next season with De Bruyne signed (as long as he can stay fit of course). Gilmour, McTominay and De Bruyne in the middle should have their fans excited.

[GloryGlory]

I said before I could see us going slightly over the million fee 1.1m or 1.2m which is still serious money for a club like Hibs though 1.5m is getting towards a figure that I think is hitting our limit , maybe there might be be some leeway on it hopefully.

It could be the £1.5 million that Sunderland supposedly want is made up of a few elements - upfront fee, add-ons for appearances, international caps, sell on.

[nonshinyfinish]

On another note, Napoli are going to have a formidable midfield next season with De Bruyne signed (as long as he can stay fit of course). Gilmour, McTominay and De Bruyne in the middle should have their fans excited.

Given that he popularised the 'ginger hair, bright red from exertion' look, he should be considered an honorary Scot

[Lago]

I genuinely think we pay that.
I don't, but admire your optimism ��

[SHODAN]

1.5 million is starting to leave our price range.

[HoboHarry]

Given that he popularised the 'ginger hair, bright red from exertion' look, he should be considered an honorary Scot
Not sure about that, he looked to have a tan on him last season and as Billy Connolly once said, "it takes Scots a week to get to white" :greengrin

[BILLYHIBS]

1.5 million is starting to leave our price range.

Agree

Looked a million dollars in some games a thoroughbred Rolls Royce of a player posted missing in others

That is what you get with young players inconsistency

Happy to let SDG decide

[Cocaine&Caviar]

On another note, Napoli are going to have a formidable midfield next season with De Bruyne signed (as long as he can stay fit of course). Gilmour, McTominay and De Bruyne in the middle should have their fans excited.

Not to be pedantic, but Gilmour doesnt play a great deal, and McTom plays inside left. The middle is usually Anguissa & Lobotka

[Centre Hawf]

1.5 million is starting to leave our price range.

Yeah it's at risk of getting to a know when to walk away territory similar to McCowan last year. I don't really have that many doubts that if we were to spend £1.5m that we could make it all back and still get a profit off him within 2 seasons but it's also a large amount to chuck out in one go at a time where our finances have been heavily scrutinised.

[EGL2000]

Yeah it's at risk of getting to a know when to walk away territory similar to McCowan last year. I don't really have that many doubts that if we were to spend £1.5m that we could make it all back and still get a profit off him within 2 seasons but it's also a large amount to chuck out in one go at a time where our finances have been heavily scrutinised.

Obviously no guarantee as there never is in football. But outwith a freak in injury I think you could easily get at least double after a season.

[Centre Hawf]

Obviously no guarantee as there never is in football. But outwith a freak in injury I think you could easily get at least double after a season.

I agree. I think if he was to even replicate this last season and have a decent showing at the World Cup he would be worth a good penny. It's just obviously a big risk to a club of our size to pay these types of fees. But one look at Aberdeens recent signings this season will tell you it's probably the way it's going.

[scoopyboy]

1.5 million is starting to leave our price range.

It’s like wage negotiations, one party starts high and the other starts low. Hopefully reach a compromise somewhere between the two figures.

A lot will be made up of appearances, international caps, etc.

No way will Hibs pay £1.5million up front or in total

[Ribs1875]

1 mil is as high as we should go, if not then try a loan and failing that then there are other options out there.

[HoboHarry]

Not to be pedantic, but Gilmour doesnt play a great deal, and McTom plays inside left. The middle is usually Anguissa & Lobotka
My confused wording, by middle I was referring to the middle of the park/midfield.

[Hibbyradge]

1 mil is as high as we should go, if not then try a loan and failing that then there are other options out there.

We should be prepared to go as high as we think he's worth if we can afford it.

[superfurryhibby]

Can you explain what performances were "Erratic" the season we finished 3rd?

We conceded 50 goals last season.
We conceded 35 the season the last time we finished 3rd.
The season following that we conceded 42.

Ryan was an integral part of both defences and mostly one of the first names picked by multiple managers.

I think I'll take the word of the countless coaches who called upon him and the multiple championships sides who were interested in signing him.

Sorry, I don't maintain a detailed dossier on Porto, but erratic was a general view, not confined to the season we finished third.

Over his Hibs career he was a bit of a loose canon at times, costing the team with sendings off, mistakes and behaving like a petulant child, with the finger pointing, moaning and taking no responsibility for his own errors.

You can take anyone's word you want, I'll take the fact that he's failed to establish himself at a better level, for club or country as proof enough that he's not the second coming. As I have already said, he's a decent player in our league and if he's learned a bit of restraint he'll be even better.

If you want a more in depth dive into what people made of Porteous' Hibs career, there a fair number of threads on here for you, fill your boots. In fact, this thread alone is probably fairly reflective of what people feel. It's pretty mixed I'd say.

[Donegal Hibby]

It could be the £1.5 million that Sunderland supposedly want is made up of a few elements - upfront fee, add-ons for appearances, international caps, sell on.

I suppose that is possible , I think it would be need to be the case as I really can’t see us paying £1.5m up front . Another thing I was thinking on is if it is going to cost as much as that even with add -ons etc . Is there any logic to taking in two different targets at say £600k or £700k would make us even stronger as opposed to buying Triantis even though he is quality? .

[Unseen work]

1 million, some achievable add ons and a sell on %

[Fuzzywuzzy]

From what I recall of porteous was he had a mistake in him but never his fault. He'd berate teammates for misplaced passes or not collecting a pass from him if he'd mistimed/misplaced said pass

[HendoDelivered]

From what I recall of porteous was he had a mistake in him but never his fault. He'd berate teammates for misplaced passes or not collecting a pass from him if he'd mistimed/misplaced said pass

He wouldn’t get away with acting like that in this team.

[EH21Hibee]

Looks like Xavier Simons has signed for Bolton then..

[EH21Hibee]

Looks like Xavier Simons has signed for Bolton then..

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250612/1d3caa359e50f816bd54cd3a7b2ba2ab.jpg

[Unseen work]

Looks like Xavier Simons has signed for Bolton then..

Hope that means we’re getting Triantis

[JohnM1875]

Looks like Xavier Simons has signed for Bolton then..

Gimp.

[Nicho87]

Looks like Xavier Simons has signed for Bolton then..

If he wasn’t picked up by Jamestown analytical team, we dodged a bullet

We should only go for their targets

👌😂

[Hibbyradge]

Gimp.

No need for that even if he does live in Musselburgh. :bitchy:

[Jones28]

Aren’t we playing them in a friendly as well?

[007]

Aren’t we playing them in a friendly as well?

Get Porto in to break his leg.

[HoboHarry]

Get Porto in to break his leg.
No need to give referees an excuse to red card Porto - big Malky could cement him as he enters the building for wasting his time....

[Earlydelivery]

Unfortunately for us they pay a lot more than us ‘ also just signed Sam Dolby

[jacomo]

Logan Jimenez - first pro deal:

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2025/june/12/logan-jimenez-signs-first-pro-deal-/


:thumbsup:

Best of luck Logan!

Bermuda is a tiny place, they seem to over perform in producing good footballers though.

[007]

No need to give referees an excuse to red card Porto - big Malky could cement him as he enters the building for wasting his time....

😂

[Donegal Hibby]

Hope that means we’re getting Triantis

Bolton saying they paid around £300k and Hull saying they got £500k . Had a feeling we miss out on him after what he was saying in an interview he done when he mentioned his family.

[Stuart93]

Hopefully not a window of missing out on targets for us.

[erin go bragh]

Rather Triantis than Xavier 🤞

[bingo70]

Hopefully not a window of missing out on targets for us.

Inevitable consequence if we’re going for a better standard of player. TV deal for lower league clubs in England make it very difficult to compete with them.

We’ve definitely got selling points dross like Bolton can’t offer, there’s no question in some cases we will lose out though.

Better that than signing crap nobody else wants.

[Silky]

Hopefully not a window of missing out on targets for us.

I doubt that. So far got McGrath and Salinger in. We won't know for sure who is a definite target and who is just put out there by the twitterati, but I'm sure we'll get players in who'll make a difference.

[JimBHibees]

It’s like wage negotiations, one party starts high and the other starts low. Hopefully reach a compromise somewhere between the two figures.

A lot will be made up of appearances, international caps, etc.

No way will Hibs pay £1.5million up front or in total

Probably depend how it was paid no doubt over a number of milestone payments.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Probably depend how it was paid no doubt over a number of milestone payments.

Or BKFC fund it

[Since90+2]

With Triantis it's not just the 1.5 million fee, he'll be, quite rightly, demanding a wage to match that transfer fee.

Let's say it's 8k a week on a 4 year deal, with bonuses that's 2 million a year in wages plus the transfer fee you're looking at an outlay of 3.5 million to get Triantis in.

That's a lot of money to Hibs, Gray and Mackay will know better than anyone on here whether that's value for money but if we don't get him you can understand why looking at those figures.

[King Cosell]

With Triantis it's not just the 1.5 million fee, he'll be, quite rightly, demanding a wage to match that that transfer fee.

Let's say it's 8k a week on a 4 year deal, with bonuses that's 2 million a year in wages plus the transfer fee you're looking at an outlay of 3.5 million to get Triantis in.

That's a lot of money to Hibs, Gray and Mackay will know no better than anyone on here whether that's value for money but if we don't get him you can understand why looking at those figures.

8k a week is 400k a year.

[Since90+2]

8k a week is 400k a year.

Well, slightly more, but yes around that.

Including bonuses it would probably be not far off 2 million over 4 years. Just realised my previous post said 2 million a year, meant to say over the 4 years.

[HoboHarry]

With Triantis it's not just the 1.5 million fee, he'll be, quite rightly, demanding a wage to match that that transfer fee.

Let's say it's 8k a week on a 4 year deal, with bonuses that's 2 million a year in wages plus the transfer fee you're looking at an outlay of 3.5 million to get Triantis in.

That's a lot of money to Hibs, Gray and Mackay will know no better than anyone on here whether that's value for money but if we don't get him you can understand why looking at those figures.
Think yer calculator battery is deid.... :greengrin

[BoomtownHibees]

With Triantis it's not just the 1.5 million fee, he'll be, quite rightly, demanding a wage to match that that transfer fee.

Let's say it's 8k a week on a 4 year deal, with bonuses that's 2 million a year in wages plus the transfer fee you're looking at an outlay of 3.5 million to get Triantis in.

That's a lot of money to Hibs, Gray and Mackay will know better than anyone on here whether that's value for money but if we don't get him you can understand why looking at those figures.

2 million a year 😂

[Ship of Hope]

8k a week is 400k a year.

He meant 2m over 4 years wages inc bonus. 3.5m including transfer fee.
It seems a lot but if he performs and we sell after 2 seasons for 3m we could make 1/2m and have had a good player for a couple of years for free. He could also be rubbish..

[J-C]

Think yer calculator battery is deid.... :greengrin


2 million a year 😂

I think he's meaning over 4 years.

[Donegal Hibby]

Seen this that one poster says we have made inquiries about Myko , maybe nothing in it …

https://jackarmy.net/forum/threads/summer-transfer-window.23600/page-88

[Ribs1875]

Seen this that one poster says we have made inquiries about Myko , maybe nothing in it …

https://jackarmy.net/forum/threads/summer-transfer-window.23600/page-88

I hope so, he's a players I think would take back.

[tamig]

I suppose that is possible , I think it would be need to be the case as I really can’t see us paying £1.5m up front . Another thing I was thinking on is if it is going to cost as much as that even with add -ons etc . Is there any logic to taking in two different targets at say £600k or £700k would make us even stronger as opposed to buying Triantis even though he is quality? .

Who are these two targets for the price of a Triantis? Our midfield is already pretty stacked. I’ve said it before, I’m convinced our board will push the boat out for SDG this summer. If 1.5m is what it takes to secure Triantis, that’s what we’ll pay. One thing about the Gordons is that they have backed every manager with cash. And there’s nothing that’s been said recently to indicate that will change. Our transfer record is likely to be smashed this window - possibly more than once.

[tamig]

Hopefully not a window of missing out on targets for us.

Calm doon man ffs.

[tamig]

He meant 2m over 4 years wages inc bonus. 3.5m including transfer fee.
It seems a lot but if he performs and we sell after 2 seasons for 3m we could make 1/2m and have had a good player for a couple of years for free. He could also be rubbish..

I’d suggest that’s highly unlikely. The guy is only going to get better.

[Unseen work]

With Triantis it's not just the 1.5 million fee, he'll be, quite rightly, demanding a wage to match that that transfer fee.

Let's say it's 8k a week on a 4 year deal, with bonuses that's 2 million a year in wages plus the transfer fee you're looking at an outlay of 3.5 million to get Triantis in.

That's a lot of money to Hibs, Gray and Mackay will know better than anyone on here whether that's value for money but if we don't get him you can understand why looking at those figures.

Think the good thing is that we know what we’re getting


We could still shell Vente style money on an alternative centre mid but it would be more costly as he’s not good or doesn’t contribute etc

[ferry hibby]

Dundee are going to be in serious trouble this season , strange Motherwell holding talks with this player when they haven’t appointed a manager I would have thought unless maybe it’s Docherty they’ve lined up for the job . 🤔

Heard locally that of the offers given to him Mulligan has decided on Rangers

[Since90+2]

Think the good thing is that we know what we’re getting


We could still shell Vente style money on an alternative centre mid but it would be more costly as he’s not good or doesn’t contribute etc

Yeah, agreed.

Not saying it's a bad signing if it happens, but the total cost of bringing Triantis to Hibs would likely be one of the highest revenue outlays the club has ever had to make on a player.

If it happens I think everyone will be happy but at the same time if it doesn't, I can understand the reasoning.

[Donegal Hibby]

Who are these two targets for the price of a Triantis? Our midfield is already pretty stacked. I’ve said it before, I’m convinced our board will push the boat out for SDG this summer. If 1.5m is what it takes to secure Triantis, that’s what we’ll pay. One thing about the Gordons is that they have backed every manager with cash. And there’s nothing that’s been said recently to indicate that will change. Our transfer record is likely to be smashed this window - possibly more than once.

I know T I’ve been very much in the Gordon’s camp from day 1 as I know they will back us as much as they can . As I’ve said before for all the mistakes they’ve made I think they have a bond with the club and genuinely care about it , we are lucky to have them as owners IMO .

I suppose what I meant by two targets for the price of Triantis is if we end up in a position where the fee unrealistic for us or another club offers more and we lose out we could still end up just as well of if we spend the money wisely on a couple of other quality players if that makes sense…

For what its worth I would rather have him back and I’ve no doubts the club will try everything possible to get him
back too 👍.

[eastmainsmsh]

Wouldn’t mind Triantis and Henderson to deliver

[Col2]

Wouldn’t mind Triantis and Henderson to deliver

Surely not? 👀

[Donegal Hibby]

I hope so, he's a players I think would take back.

Interesting the poster mentions a loan even though he has just over a year left on his contract . I might be wrong but I don’t see Swansea recouping much in a fee which makes me wonder would they opened to the idea of loaning him out to us again.

[Stuart93]

Calm doon man ffs.

I’m pretty calm tbh, just hoping that won’t be the case.

[tamig]

I’m pretty calm tbh, just hoping that won’t be the case.

Not like you to be a glass half empty type of guy. New set-up in place now. Keep the faith 👍

[04Sauzee]

I think Dundee are on the verge of announcing Drey Wright.

[HoboHarry]

I think he's meaning over 4 years.
I know, hence the smiley face from me :greengrin

[Stuart93]

Not like you to be a glass half empty type of guy. New set-up in place now. Keep the faith 👍

Glass half empty because I hope we don’t miss out on targets?

Will do bud.

[500miles]

Wouldn’t mind Triantis and Henderson to deliver

I can never remember who the ITK guys are in here, so I’m just going to pretend I didn’t read that and get on with my day.


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[04Sauzee]

Rangers fans expecting Josh Mulligan to sign in the next couple of days.

[Unseen work]

I think Josh Mulligan is a really good player, same with Lyall Cameron.

But the thought of Rangers having those two and Connor Barron in midfield doesn’t worry me at all.

[EGL2000]

Pretty disappointed we have not managed to get Simmons think he looked a real good player.

[JohnM1875]

I think Josh Mulligan is a really good player, same with Lyall Cameron.

But the thought of Rangers having those two and Connor Barron in midfield doesn’t worry me at all.

Suppose it depends if they’re squad players or starters. Great squad players to have. More so Mulligan and Cameron

[Hibbyradge]

Pretty disappointed we have not managed to get Simmons think he looked a real good player.

Were we ever after him?

[HoboHarry]

I think Josh Mulligan is a really good player, same with Lyall Cameron.

But the thought of Rangers having those two and Connor Barron in midfield doesn’t worry me at all.

Said the same before, any Sevco fan with a head operating at half capacity can see they aren't challenging Celtic with signings like that. They might also wonder when all the new investment is going to arrive from their new owners (ahem).

[hibees 7062]

I think Dundee are on the verge of announcing Drey Wright.
Done deal

[Lago]

Glass half empty because I hope we don’t miss out on targets?

Will do bud.
Yip like you had expected a bit more activity by now, Rocky staying or going, Hoilett staying or going, Myko any real interest, same with Triantis, Porto, anyway all will be revealed in due course no doubt. 😁

[Col2]

Would it be fair to assume players, agents and club officials are mainly in holiday just now given lack of transfer activity?

[Gmack7]

Would it be fair to assume players, agents and club officials are mainly in holiday just now given lack of transfer activity?

If only we were using analytics, we would have 5 or 6 in by now, maybe not what the manager wants or needs but still