Summer transfer thread 2025

[Since90+2]

Guys who move to Celtic or Rangers get criticised for not challenging themselves by moving down south and not believing in their ability, Laidlaw done exactly that and he's also criticised too.

[Brightside]

He had his time here, he's 20 and has done nothing in the game. Our signing policy seems to have moved on from development players so I can't see Gray taking him back.

TBF he left due to ongoing issues with LJ but I agree it's very unlikely he will be back at Hibs. As mentioned earlier I wouldn't be surprised if Dundee have a look at him.

[Lago]

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Don't think he agrees with your opinion 😂

[Donegal Hibby]

I’d take Laidlaw back for a trial period. SDG will know him well

Not long turned 20 and couple of times I’ve saw him he looked a mile ahead of everyone else.

Was there not a few issues with him questioning why other players were playing etc ?

[NC1875]

Was there not a few issues with him questioning why other players were playing etc ?

Did LJ not give Josh O’Connor minutes ahead of Ethan ?

The limited times I’ve seen either play, Ethan looked the better player.

[hhibs]

He’s signed for Roda so you can relax. 😂


Roda as in Netherlands or Roda of Spain ?

[WestStandWillie]

If Smith finds himself number 2 I wouldn’t be surprised if he moved.

His performances with us will have alerted alot of clubs how good a keeper he actually is and now he’s played a consecutive amount of games in a row he might now have a taste of being number 1.

I really like smith, still his gloves to lose as far as I’m concerned.

:top marks:top marks:top marks

I'd be completely gobsmacked if Smith doesn't start the season as number 1

[Donegal Hibby]

Did LJ not give Josh O’Connor minutes ahead of Ethan ?

The limited times I’ve seen either play, Ethan looked the better player.

I think O’Conner was one of the names Laidlaw mentioned . I didn’t see Laidlaw play though thought O’Conner for the short time he was on against Aberdeen looked alright , remember him getting the better of scales , could it have been maybe O’Conner was physically ahead of Laidlaw rather than it being about ability?

[GloryGlory]

Interesting that Salinger joins on 1st July

Bit odd that no?

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Can think of three reasons:

1) Hibs want to put the transfer fee into next year's accounts, or
2) Sallinger is maybe due a bonus payment if he is still contracted to his Austrian club at 30 June or
3) Sallinger's release clause is active on 1 July.

[Victor]

:top marks:top marks:top marks

I'd be completely gobsmacked if Smith doesn't start the season as number 1

Might use Sallinger for Europe and/or Cup matches and Smith for the league, until someone mucks-up!

[Since452]

Whether a player is a good player or not a good player is obviously a matter of personal opinion.

As probably the person on this forum who has seen Josh Nisbet more than anybody else…..and I say that after watching nearly all his games in Oz over a period of years….here’s mine.

(He actually made his debut for Mariners the same night as the towering Usain Bolt and the photo of then standing together is a classic!)

Nisbet was voted player of the season prior to him leaving for Ross County.

He was the clear ‘pick of the bunch’ in a very successful team that won trophies not only in Oz but also in Asia.Nick Triantis was part of that team but was certainly overshadowed at that time by Nisbet.

Being 5’3”” he has suffered from ‘sizeism’ everywhere he has been..including at the Mariners at one point……and I believe that is one of the main reasons he ended up at Ross County.

Most European, and certainly Scottish clubs would view his small stature as being not suited to their league.

Nisbet received several lucrative overs to sign for Japanese clubs, but he was intent on playing in Europe, and the only offer forthcoming was from Ross County.

I thought at the time that this was not a good choice…….playing for an always struggling bottom of the table side who spend most of their time battling to avoid defeat….as opposed to side who were more likely to be seen as creative and attacking…was never going to help him show his ability.

Unlike some…..and I guess time will tell…Like you I do think that he will play at a higher level than Div2 in The Netherlands.

Football in Oz is based (roughly) on the Dutch style of play (the Technical Directors were often referred to as the ‘Dutch Mafia’)

The Dutch move is, again in my opinion, much more suited to Josh’s ability, and signing for Ross County was never a good move for him.

A bit like when Scott Allan joined Rotherham.

Again my opinion…and it isn’t worth any more or less than anybody’s…is based on having followed the players career over a number of years..rather than making a snap judgement.

Not really interested in debating whether I am right or wrong…..it is as I say a matter of opinion, but yes, I would have liked to see him play in a Hibs shirt.

I'm not sure how seriously people take the Australian league. I think that was a factor more than "sizeism". The fact Usain Bolt was his teammate says it all really. Nick Montgomery being so out of his depth managing here shows it's still a fair few levels below our standard and Nisbet looked average at best in our league and was the player of the season in Australia.

[McD]

Did LJ not give Josh O’Connor minutes ahead of Ethan ?

The limited times I’ve seen either play, Ethan looked the better player.


Was that to do with EL not wanting to sign a new deal, whereas JOC and others were signing new deals?

[Hibernian Verse]

:top marks:top marks:top marks

I'd be completely gobsmacked if Smith doesn't start the season as number 1

Prepare to be gobsmacked.

[ruthven_raiders]

Might use Sallinger for Europe and/or Cup matches and Smith for the league, until someone mucks-up!

That was my first thought if we get to league stages of Europe, they do it in England, so both makes sure sallinger would be up to speed if smith got injured...

[Fergus52]

That was my first thought if we get to league stages of Europe, they do it in England, so both makes sure sallinger would be up to speed if smith got injured...

I'm pretty sure Salinger is coming in to be no. 1,

Smith has been pretty good shot stopping wise but I don't fully understand the love in he gets on here - he's very poor at coming for crosses, has inconsistent distribution and was at fault for a few goals towards the end of the season.

Excellent choice as back-up, but I'm glad we're signing someone of decent pedigree to hopefully come in and start

[Unseen work]

I'm pretty sure Salinger is coming in to be no. 1,

Smith has been pretty good shot stopping wise but I don't fully understand the love in he gets on here - he's very poor at coming for crosses, has inconsistent distribution and was at fault for a few goals towards the end of the season.

Excellent choice as back-up, but I'm glad we're signing someone of decent pedigree to hopefully come in and start

I actually like that smith knows his strengths and that he allows the defenders to deal with crossed balls, allowing him to stay on his line. The majority of the time he comes from crosses I think he does so well.

I think his distribution is very good, he plays those clipped balls out to the full backs very well. He knows when to try play and when to go long.

His one against rangers I can’t even class as a mistake, more the defensive shape off the ball being so poor that is allowed one pass to make Dessers be in on goal and onside.

Pretty good shot stopping wise is harsh too imo, he has routinely made brilliant saves for us

Swear I’m not his mum 🤣

[Hibspur]

Prepare to be gobsmacked.

Gray won't drop Smith after the outstanding season he's just had. Good to have what appears to be a solid signing in as back-up, but that's what he'll be unless Smith isn't performing well enough to merit the No 1 spot.

[JohnM1875]

Gray won't drop Smith after the outstanding season he's just had. Good to have what appears to be a solid signing in as back-up, but that's what he'll be unless Smith isn't performing well enough to merit the No 1 spot.

Whoever performs better over pre-season and in training will be number one. Which is exactly how it should be.

[Jones28]

I'm pretty sure Salinger is coming in to be no. 1,

Smith has been pretty good shot stopping wise but I don't fully understand the love in he gets on here - he's very poor at coming for crosses, has inconsistent distribution and was at fault for a few goals towards the end of the season.

Excellent choice as back-up, but I'm glad we're signing someone of decent pedigree to hopefully come in and start

Don't agree with this at all, Smith looked a bit shaky when he first came in but improved and was immense against Rangers. 5 or 6 real goal preventing stops.

His distribution is one of his strongest points for me, rarely misplaces a pass.

Re crosses he comes for less crosses but again, he's gotten better as the season went on.

[Hibernian Verse]

Gray won't drop Smith after the outstanding season he's just had. Good to have what appears to be a solid signing in as back-up, but that's what he'll be unless Smith isn't performing well enough to merit the No 1 spot.

He's been brought in as a number one. Smith will be dropped, sorry.

[CapitalGreen]

Gray won't drop Smith after the outstanding season he's just had. Good to have what appears to be a solid signing in as back-up, but that's what he'll be unless Smith isn't performing well enough to merit the No 1 spot.

I think it’s possible that Gray perhaps doesn’t rate Smith as highly as some do on here. Gray had all preseason last summer to assess him and went with Bursik and then it took about 4 months of awful performances from Bursik before he’d give Smith a chance. He could have easily brought in a cheap back up goalkeeper this summer but has paid a sizeable fee by our standards and given a 3 year contract to Sallinger.

[Hibees1973]

I'm pretty sure Salinger is coming in to be no. 1,

Smith has been pretty good shot stopping wise but I don't fully understand the love in he gets on here - he's very poor at coming for crosses, has inconsistent distribution and was at fault for a few goals towards the end of the season.

Excellent choice as back-up, but I'm glad we're signing someone of decent pedigree to hopefully come in and start

Really depends on how they both shape up during training and pre season games. Then it will be a call between Gray & Craig Samson who starts.

It's fair to say 'tin hat on' that Gray stuck with Bursik way too long last season before dropping him. The benefits were for all to see when Bursik was dropped. Much as Smith did perform well, the only way we can replicate or even build on last season is for current players to improve. If not they will be replaced.

i detect a wee bit of sentiment for Smith in some of the earlier posts. For me he looked a bit vulnerable at crosses and with the ball at his feet. Also seemed to lack a bit of physical stature. Understand if you are happy with Smith, then he is your man. But goalkeeper is one of the positions I feel we can get an upgrade on.

If Smith proves to be better than Salinger then he keeps the gloves.

[Hibernian Verse]

Really depends on how they both shape up during training and pre season games. Then it will be a call between Gray & Craig Samson who starts.

It's fair to say 'tin hat on' that Gray stuck with Bursik way too long last season before dropping him. The benefits were for all to see when Bursik was dropped. Much as Smith did perform well, the only way we can replicate or even build on last season is for current players to improve. If not they will be replaced.

i detect a wee bit of sentiment for Smith in some of the earlier posts. For me he looked a bit vulnerable at crosses and with the ball at his feet. Also seemed to lack a bit of physical stature. Understand if you are happy with Smith, then he is your man. But goalkeeper is one of the positions I feel we can get an upgrade on.

If Smith proves to be better than Salinger then he keeps the gloves.

Think you're spot on. Every player can be upgraded and Sallinger isn't signing a three year deal abroad to sit on the bench, he must have some kind of assurance that he will play.

[Donegal Hibby]

I'm not sure how seriously people take the Australian league. I think that was a factor more than "sizeism". The fact Usain Bolt was his teammate says it all really. Nick Montgomery being so out of his depth managing here shows it's still a fair few levels below our standard and Nisbet looked average at best in our league and was the player of the season in Australia.

It could be said Monty has ended up now at a club levels above our own as a coach now . I still think it’s hard to judge a player in a new league especially when he’s in a side that’s been struggling for a few years , personally I don’t think it was a very good move for him though at least someone was shrewd enough in having a relegation clause in his contract as it was inevitable that Ross County would eventually go down after flirting with it so often in recent times . It will be interesting to see how he does at his new club . I think at times players get written off too early on occasions by fans . Maybe this is another one , who knows!.

[Lago]

It could be said Monty has ended up now at a club levels above our own as a coach now . I still think it’s hard to judge a player in a new league especially when he’s in a side that’s been struggling for a few years , personally I don’t think it was a very good move for him though at least someone was shrewd enough in having a relegation clause in his contract as it was inevitable that Ross County would eventually go down after flirting with it so often in recent times . It will be interesting to see how he does at his new club . I think at times players get written off too early on occasions by fans . Maybe this is another one , who knows!.
Unfortunately he's probably just lost his job.

[Iain G]

Think you're spot on. Every player can be upgraded and Sallinger isn't signing a three year deal abroad to sit on the bench, he must have some kind of assurance that he will play.

Why would he need an assurance that he will play? We now have one good proven keeper at our level and a new keeper that has performed well at his previous club, they can have a fight for the gloves and there is no guarantee of playing time, that would be mad as what if Salinger doesnt adapt to the game here?

[Donegal Hibby]

He's been brought in as a number one. Smith will be dropped, sorry.


Think you're spot on. Every player can be upgraded and Sallinger isn't signing a three year deal abroad to sit on the bench, he must have some kind of assurance that he will play.

I don’t know how you can say he’s been brought in as NO .1 , nobody knows that , would we have made any assurances to Smith when we got him to sign a 3 year deal too ? . At the minute the way I see it is we have two good keepers fighting for the NO .1 jersey and Smith has it at this moment in time . If he starts to underperform , make mistakes that’s costing us games or points then he will be replaced . I don’t see Sallinger just walking in and the other fella dropped when his performances have generally been really good.

[Donegal Hibby]

Unfortunately he's probably just lost his job.

More than likely . Spurs are a bit of a basket case of a club now .

[Since90+2]

It could be said Monty has ended up now at a club levels above our own as a coach now . I still think it’s hard to judge a player in a new league especially when he’s in a side that’s been struggling for a few years , personally I don’t think it was a very good move for him though at least someone was shrewd enough in having a relegation clause in his contract as it was inevitable that Ross County would eventually go down after flirting with it so often in recent times . It will be interesting to see how he does at his new club . I think at times players get written off too early on occasions by fans . Maybe this is another one , who knows!.

Montgomery might be at a club levels above us but he's essentially tasked with putting the cones out.

[007]

I think it’s possible that Gray perhaps doesn’t rate Smith as highly as some do on here. Gray had all preseason last summer to assess him and went with Bursik and then it took about 4 months of awful performances from Bursik before he’d give Smith a chance. He could have easily brought in a cheap back up goalkeeper this summer but has paid a sizeable fee by our standards and given a 3 year contract to Sallinger.

Or you could look at it another way, Gray stuck with a keeper playing poorly for a long time before making a change so he'd likely stick with a keeper who'd been performing well before making a change.

My guess would be he's not thinking Sallinger is coming in to be the number 1. It's for them to fight over and he'll assess both in preseason. My view is that if there's not much between them then Smith should start the 1st competitive game as he's currently got the gloves. If Sallinger is clearly better than Smith then start Sallinger. Either way, if they make too many mistakes then there's a good keeper waiting in the wings to take over so they know they need to keep their standards high. Here's hoping it's similar to when we had Marciano/Bogdan.

[CapitalGreen]

Montgomery might be at a club levels above us but he's essentially tasked with putting the cones out.

Is that what you thought of Gray the last 4 years, just the cones guy?

[Wilson]

Is that what you thought of Gray the last 4 years, just the cones guy?

Gray was in training for 'cones guy'. Still not sure he lines them up straight.

[B.H.F.C]

I think it’s possible that Gray perhaps doesn’t rate Smith as highly as some do on here. Gray had all preseason last summer to assess him and went with Bursik and then it took about 4 months of awful performances from Bursik before he’d give Smith a chance. He could have easily brought in a cheap back up goalkeeper this summer but has paid a sizeable fee by our standards and given a 3 year contract to Sallinger.

Pretty much how I see it. The fee is the bit swings it for me. If the intention was for Smith to start next season as number one, I don’t think we’d be paying that level of fee. It feels more like, to me, it’s a position that we’ve identified as being possible to improve. I think there are a couple of those positions in the team, players who contributed well but you’d be looking at thinking we can possibly upgrade within our budget.

[Since90+2]

Is that what you thought of Gray the last 4 years, just the cones guy?

Nope.

Gray is a club legend, gets the club completely and even when at coach level would have commanded massive respect in the dressing room and the fans generally felt, even as a coach, it was beneficial having him at Hibs.

None of that applies to Montgomery and Tottenham.

[easty]

It could be said Monty has ended up now at a club levels above our own as a coach now . I still think it’s hard to judge a player in a new league especially when he’s in a side that’s been struggling for a few years , personally I don’t think it was a very good move for him though at least someone was shrewd enough in having a relegation clause in his contract as it was inevitable that Ross County would eventually go down after flirting with it so often in recent times . It will be interesting to see how he does at his new club . I think at times players get written off too early on occasions by fans . Maybe this is another one , who knows!.

Ending up at a Prem club as a coach isn’t a step up from being Hibs manager.

It’s probably better money, but career wise it’s backwards.

[Sioux]

Nope.

Gray is a club legend, gets the club completely and even when at coach level would have commanded massive respect in the dressing room and the fans generally felt, even as a coach, it was beneficial having him at Hibs.

None of that applies to Montgomery and Tottenham.

What’s a ‘club legend’ got to do with it? Players will react to a coach based on what a coach does on a day to day basis at the training ground, and during games, and not what he might have done during a playing career.

If you’re good at your job you’ll get respect, if not…………

[CapitalGreen]

Nope.

Gray is a club legend, gets the club completely and even when at coach level would have commanded massive respect in the dressing room and the fans generally felt, even as a coach, it was beneficial having him at Hibs.

None of that applies to Montgomery and Tottenham.

You’ve no idea how the Tottenham dressing room feels about Montgomery though. I also imagine in the eyes of Tottenham fans, everyone in the football department who helped them secure a major European trophy will have hero status for what they delivered - akin to the likes of Doolan and Taff do for us. What he did at Hibs will be irrelevant to his standing amongst the Tottenham squad and fans.

[Donegal Hibby]

Ending up at a Prem club as a coach isn’t a step up from being Hibs manager.

It’s probably better money, but career wise it’s backwards.

I think saying it is or isn’t a backward step is debatable and without getting into a debate about it , let’s just say it is a backward step though working with players like Son , Maddison etc , top manager , a league absolutely levels above our own as well as the European run is some experience which I think most managers who have been sacked in our league would probably jump at in fairness.

[Since90+2]

I think saying it is or isn’t a backward step is debatable and without getting into a debate about it , let’s just say it is a backward step though working with players like Son , Maddison etc , top manager , a league absolutely levels above our own as well as the European run is some experience which I think most managers who have been sacked in our league would probably jump at in fairness.

It's a backwards step. Do you think he'd have left to take up that role if we was still Hibs manager?

Not a chance.

[hibsbollah]

Whoever performs better over pre-season and in training will be number one. Which is exactly how it should be.

Exactly. Not sure why people don’t understand this. Its a clean slate.

[Donegal Hibby]

It's a backwards step. Do you think he'd have left to take up that role if we was still Hibs manager?

Not a chance.

If it was a backward step it was certainly a very good one and probably one that was a good experience , certainly don’t think it was all about putting out a few cones either.

[04Sauzee]

Bournemouth linked with a £20m bid for PSV forward Johan Bakayoko who scored 11 goals in 46 appearances.

I wonder how much Vente is worth 😁😁

[McD]

Pretty much how I see it. The fee is the bit swings it for me. If the intention was for Smith to start next season as number one, I don’t think we’d be paying that level of fee. It feels more like, to me, it’s a position that we’ve identified as being possible to improve. I think there are a couple of those positions in the team, players who contributed well but you’d be looking at thinking we can possibly upgrade within our budget.



What was the fee?

[B.H.F.C]

What was the fee?

He was reported as having a £300k release clause. Whether or not that’s accurate, I don’t know, but fair to say we’ve paid out a few quid even if it’s a bit less.

[McD]

He was reported as having a £300k release clause. Whether or not that’s accurate, I don’t know, but fair to say we’ve paid out a few quid even if it’s a bit less.



Cheers :aok:

[Unseen work]

Who at Hibs identified Bursik and Slicker as our goalkeeping options last summer?…

[supermcginn]

Glad we've identified a big weakness and addressed it. Salinger's height is a huge bonus for cross balls and I expect to see further tall players signing.

[Bostonhibby]

Don't agree with this at all, Smith looked a bit shaky when he first came in but improved and was immense against Rangers. 5 or 6 real goal preventing stops.

His distribution is one of his strongest points for me, rarely misplaces a pass.

Re crosses he comes for less crosses but again, he's gotten better as the season went on.[emoji106] great minds think alike.

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[Forza Fred]

I'm not sure how seriously people take the Australian league. I think that was a factor more than "sizeism". The fact Usain Bolt was his teammate says it all really. Nick Montgomery being so out of his depth managing here shows it's still a fair few levels below our standard and Nisbet looked average at best in our league and was the player of the season in Australia.

I don’t know how seriously people take the A League either, and honestly am not fussed, but there are good players in most leagues I reckon.

What I do know though is that there are several players in the SPFL who have A League experience, you only have to look at the two Edinburgh clubs for an indication of that…..and the likelihood is that another A league recruit may be added to that number soon.

[JimBHibees]

Exactly. Not sure why people don’t understand this. Its a clean slate.

Yep it is pretty simple new goalie needed to provide competition which is exactly how it should be. The coaches will then decide who starts based on performance and form. The way it has always been

[WhileTheChief..]

Is that what you thought of Gray the last 4 years, just the cones guy?

He kinda was, no?!!

He clearly didn’t have any influence on how we played during his time with LJ or Monty.

Thats nothing against Gray BTW, it just shows how much better he is at the job than Monty or LJ can ever hope to be.

There was definitely chat on here questioning what Gray was doing during these 4 years and absolutely nobody was suggesting him for the top job until he got it.

[Donegal Hibby]

Wonder will we hear about Simons after the weekend? …

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/hull-city-duo-expected-complete-10241852

[Up-the-slope]

What was the fee?

Only direct 'quote' I saw was 'six figure fee' so quite a wide range...

[JohnM1875]

Wonder will we hear about Simons after the weekend? …

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/hull-city-duo-expected-complete-10241852

Quite a bit left on his deal if you include the years option. Probably be a decent fee we’ll pay.

[Donegal Hibby]

Quite a bit left on his deal if you include the years option. Probably be a decent fee we’ll pay.

Valued at 700k on Transfermarkt . Only guessing like though maybe around half that possible? . Had a look at their forum and seen a couple of mixed opinions on the two players…

https://not606.com/threads/summer-2025-transfer-thread%E2%80%A6.417804/page-161

[Billy Bunter 07]

If it was a backward step it was certainly a very good one and probably one that was a good experience , certainly don’t think it was all about putting out a few cones either.

There’s no if about it.

[CapitalGreen]

He kinda was, no?!!

He wasn’t and it’s pretty disrespectful to describe him as so.


He clearly didn’t have any influence on how we played during his time with LJ or Monty.

He was responsible for attacking set pieces for a period of that time during which we were one of if not the best in the league scoring from set plays. Again disrespectful to suggest he didn’t influence how we played.


Thats nothing against Gray BTW, it just shows how much better he is at the job than Monty or LJ can ever hope to

There was definitely chat on here questioning what Gray was doing during these 4 years and absolutely nobody was suggesting him for the top job until he got it.

There was plenty of people calling for Gray to get the job on here, especially after LJ was sacked but some were even suggesting it as far back as 2021 before Maloney was appointed.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Is anyone a subscriber to the Herald online who can paste the recent piece with Mackay?

[J-C]

He kinda was, no?!!

He clearly didn’t have any influence on how we played during his time with LJ or Monty.

Thats nothing against Gray BTW, it just shows how much better he is at the job than Monty or LJ can ever hope to be.

There was definitely chat on here questioning what Gray was doing during these 4 years and absolutely nobody was suggesting him for the top job until he got it.

AFAIK Gray was the set piece coach, it's now obvious that he has a lot more talent as a proper coach than what he was allowed to show under Johnson and Monty, the development of certain players and the team in general has shown us that.

[Heisenberg]

St Mirren linked with Alex Paulsen. Wonder if Bournemouth would send a player to another team in our league

[Cabbage-Patch]

Who at Hibs identified Bursik and Slicker as our goalkeeping options last summer?…

To be to fair to Slicker hes probably a decent keeper. He was literally chucked in at the deep end last night. He was never going to think he was coming on being 3rd choice. Lads never played a league game in his life. Needs a loan somewhere he will be 1st choice. Absolutely mental Clarke picked him to be in the squad in these circumstances. Doohan should have been in before him.

I take it Zander Clark and Gordon are injured?

[Cabbage-Patch]

St Mirren linked with Alex Paulsen. Wonder if Bournemouth would send a player to another team in our league

Don't see why they wouldn't tbh

[B.H.F.C]

St Mirren linked with Alex Paulsen. Wonder if Bournemouth would send a player to another team in our league

Don’t see why not, they’ve got to look after themselves and their own players first and foremost. I’d imagine we would probably have had some kind of option to take him if we’d wanted to.

[JohnM1875]

St Mirren linked with Alex Paulsen. Wonder if Bournemouth would send a player to another team in our league

Personally would find that pretty weird. Can't be short of teams looking to loan him.

[CapitalGreen]

St Mirren linked with Alex Paulsen. Wonder if Bournemouth would send a player to another team in our league

No different to us potentially selling a player to an English Premier League club who isn’t Bournemouth. Both clubs will operate in their own self interest but if there is any opportunity when our interests match we’ll take it.

[Hibbyradge]

Is anyone a subscriber to the Herald online who can paste the recent piece with Mackay?

What piece?

[MagicSwirlingShip]

What piece?

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/25222042.malky-mackay-hibs-5m-shot-training-centre-plan-black-knights/

[Hibbyradge]

It was mentioned on the radio today that both were injured.
Thought there could have been more support for slicker on the pitch from the experienced guys.
Absolutely no complaints about Slicker, I thought he was dwelling on the goal a lot, shaking his head, but the ball got past a lot of players before it got past him.

This one is down to Clarke, if he never had the team he wanted, he had a perfect opportunity to experiment with others.

Presumably he was experimenting with Slicker.

[JohnM1875]

Is anyone a subscriber to the Herald online who can paste the recent piece with Mackay?

Just pop the link into the search bar on 12ft.io should work

[Hibbyradge]

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/25222042.malky-mackay-hibs-5m-shot-training-centre-plan-black-knights/

Here you go. I've cleaned out the ad crap as much as I can but a few bits might remain.

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Malky Mackay on Hibs' £5m shot, training centre plan and Black Knights

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Exclusive by Stephen McGowan
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Malky Mackay is looking to the future after a strong season across the board for Hibs (Image: NQ Design)
THE ledge of Malky Mackay’s office window is lined with one book after another on the art of management and leadership.

Reaching out to grab one, Hibernian’s sporting director flips straight to a page in ‘Legacy’, James Kerr’s bestselling analysis of the All Blacks.

Made up of the 15 mantras which turned the New Zealand rugby team into the most ruthless winning machine in winning sport, a yellow post-it note marks out a chapter entitled: ‘No D***heads.’

It’s a rule of thumb Mackay has tried to apply to one of Scotland’s biggest football clubs. The key to forging the culture which secured European football for the men, women’s and under-18 teams at the end of a roller-coaster season.

“The final 10 days of the season were an incredible 10 days for the football club,” said Mackay.

“We were balancing the men’s team going for third in the Premiership with the women’s team going for the SWPL title and the under-18 team going for their league as well.

“All of it was balanced on a knife-edge. Were the men’s team going to finish third or fourth or fifth?

“Were the women going to win the tightest title race ever or come second?

“And then the kids had three games in a week and that was always going to determine whether they were going to win the league or not.

“So now we have the three teams in Europe and I think Celtic and Rangers are the only other clubs who’ve achieved that in Scotland.”

The loss of £5 million for automatic qualification to the group stages of the Europa Conference League should have cast a pall over Hibernian’s season.

When Aberdeen unexpectedly beat Celtic in the Scottish Cup final, they secured a prize expected to fall into the laps of the Easter Road club when they stormed from the bottom of the Premiership to secure a third-place finish. If Mackay has his way it still will.

“That £5m is still there for us,” he says. “The outcome of the Aberdeen Celtic game changed things in terms of which team went straight into the group stages. But that wasn’t something we could affect.

“All we could do was finish as high in the league as we possibly could.

“We did that by finishing third and I’m not certain what more we could do.

“Congratulations to Aberdeen, fair play to them for winning the cup. That’s life.

“All you can do in this business is look after yourself. And we put an awful lot into what we achieved in the end.”

Technical director of the Scottish FA for four years, Mackay now works tirelessly in pursuit of marginal gains at the Hibs Training Centre in Tranent. Plans for a new full-size indoor training dome and a new facility for the title-winning women’s team are well down the tracks after a land swap deal at East Mains.

Trailed at the club’s AGM, the 20-year-old facility has become cramped and an 11-a-side indoor facility – a long-held goal of the late owner Ron Gordon – is planned with the financial assistance of SFA Pitching Up facility funds.

“There is a situation now our men and women’s teams are sharing a building which is 20 years old and it has become too small,” Mackay admits.

“So we have sat down and developed plans for a potential redevelopment. Obviously we have to speak to East Lothian Council and put it all down properly, but we are hoping for a revamp of the area.

“We have the possibility of another building, extra pitches and the potential for an indoor full-size 11-a-side facility as well.

“We are high up altitude wise in Tranent and the wind does create issues here.

“The difference it would make to the academy and community to be able to take players inside to a protected indoor-full size dome can’t be overstated.”

As a club Hibs are in a better place than anyone thought possible when David Gray’s team couldn’t win a game for love or money in the dark days of autumn.

Bottom of the SPFL Premiership after one win in 12 games, the fourth managerial appointment in three years was fighting for his job. Chairman Ian Gordon was invited to

Las Vegas for clear-the-air talks with multi-club investor Bill Foley and his Black Knight Football Club lieutenants Ryan Caswell and Tim Bezbatchenko following complaints that their input into key decisions was being ignored.

“I remember thinking, ‘This has to calm’,” admits Mackay now.

“My role was to make the place a stable ship and ensure that every message coming out of here is normal. What people expect. We had to become the club that we should be.

“There was a perception around the club where that wasn’t necessarily the case.”

An improbable 96th-minute equaliser from Rocky Bushiri in a 3-3 draw with Aberdeen in November proved a sliding-doors moment. After defeats to St Mirren and Dundee, when everything felt dysfunctional and chaotic, Hibernian rallied. They lost just one of the their next 14 games.

“People outside were seeing what was happening on the pitch,” Mackay says.

“I was seeing what was actually happened behind the scenes.

“We had a pretty imbalanced and bloated squad and we lost six games in the last five minutes.

“There were huge individual errors happening, we had four red cards in 12 games and we missed three penalties.

“No excuses but everyone could see that anything that could go wrong was going wrong.”

The current average shelf life of a manager in the Scottish Premiership is 12.75 months. While five clubs will start the new season with a new head coach, Hibernian held their nerve and stuck with the one they had. While few knew how much stress Gray came under during the dark winter days of November, Mackay had been there himself.

“I’ve stood in those shoes. And the pressure in the role is incredible,” he notes. “You are judged every Saturday on 90 minutes and until you stand in those shoes and see the pressure that comes from players, staff, owners, press and the public, you don’t know how that feels.

“Back in the day when I was a young manager you got two or three years to do your job.
“These days you are lucky to get 12 months. The situation is getting worse.”

The relationship with the Black Knights Group is now healthy, the two sides ‘closer than they’ve ever been’.



Black Knights president Bazbatchenko is a regular visitor to Edinburgh. Mackay has travelled to Bournemouth for meetings and Cherries performance director Jay Melette performed an audit of the Hibernian set-up. The Easter Road side will spend four days training with their English Premier League step cousins before playing a pre-season bounce game. The Black Knight representatives were as blown away as everyone else, meanwhile, by heartfelt renditions of ‘Sunshine on Leith’ after the wins over Hearts and Celtic.

“It’s the 150th anniversary of the club’s creation this year,” ponders Mackay. “It all stemmed from the docks and the disadvantaged area of Leith and there is a great history attached to this club.

“The Gordon family have embraced that massively, ploughing something like £24 million into the club since the day they took over in terms of infrastructure and backing managers and training facilities to make sure everything is as good as it can be. They stuck at it through really tough times.

“So when I see the last few weeks of the season and the happiness around the club I think to back to some of the abuse they took during the hard times and think to myself, ‘My god, they could easily have thrown the keys in’.

“That’s why it’s so satisfying to see fans singing ‘Sunshine on Leith’ or coming up to Ian [Gordon] and his mother Kit and thanking them for giving them memories to embrace.
“Over a period of time, Hibs is probably a club which hasn’t won as many things as we could have.

“Because of the size of the fan base, the stadium, the facilities, the capital city aspect, people want us to light the touch-paper and catch fire.

“And I want Hibs to be a badge people are proud of instead of a club where they’re looking in and saying, ‘What’s happening in there now?’”

Hibernian FC
Malky Mackay
Football

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Thank you 🙏

[Broken Gnome]

Actions louder than words and all that, but that's a wonderful read.

[Lago]

Here you go. I've cleaned out the ad crap as much as I can but a few bits might remain.

Exclusive
Malky Mackay on Hibs' £5m shot, training centre plan and Black Knights

Hibernian FC

Exclusive by Stephen McGowan
Sports writer at large
@mcgowan_stephen


Malky Mackay is looking to the future after a strong season across the board for Hibs (Image: NQ Design)
THE ledge of Malky Mackay’s office window is lined with one book after another on the art of management and leadership.

Reaching out to grab one, Hibernian’s sporting director flips straight to a page in ‘Legacy’, James Kerr’s bestselling analysis of the All Blacks.

Made up of the 15 mantras which turned the New Zealand rugby team into the most ruthless winning machine in winning sport, a yellow post-it note marks out a chapter entitled: ‘No D***heads.’

It’s a rule of thumb Mackay has tried to apply to one of Scotland’s biggest football clubs. The key to forging the culture which secured European football for the men, women’s and under-18 teams at the end of a roller-coaster season.

“The final 10 days of the season were an incredible 10 days for the football club,” said Mackay.

“We were balancing the men’s team going for third in the Premiership with the women’s team going for the SWPL title and the under-18 team going for their league as well.

“All of it was balanced on a knife-edge. Were the men’s team going to finish third or fourth or fifth?

“Were the women going to win the tightest title race ever or come second?

“And then the kids had three games in a week and that was always going to determine whether they were going to win the league or not.

“So now we have the three teams in Europe and I think Celtic and Rangers are the only other clubs who’ve achieved that in Scotland.”

The loss of £5 million for automatic qualification to the group stages of the Europa Conference League should have cast a pall over Hibernian’s season.

When Aberdeen unexpectedly beat Celtic in the Scottish Cup final, they secured a prize expected to fall into the laps of the Easter Road club when they stormed from the bottom of the Premiership to secure a third-place finish. If Mackay has his way it still will.

“That £5m is still there for us,” he says. “The outcome of the Aberdeen Celtic game changed things in terms of which team went straight into the group stages. But that wasn’t something we could affect.

“All we could do was finish as high in the league as we possibly could.

“We did that by finishing third and I’m not certain what more we could do.

“Congratulations to Aberdeen, fair play to them for winning the cup. That’s life.

“All you can do in this business is look after yourself. And we put an awful lot into what we achieved in the end.”

Technical director of the Scottish FA for four years, Mackay now works tirelessly in pursuit of marginal gains at the Hibs Training Centre in Tranent. Plans for a new full-size indoor training dome and a new facility for the title-winning women’s team are well down the tracks after a land swap deal at East Mains.

Trailed at the club’s AGM, the 20-year-old facility has become cramped and an 11-a-side indoor facility – a long-held goal of the late owner Ron Gordon – is planned with the financial assistance of SFA Pitching Up facility funds.

“There is a situation now our men and women’s teams are sharing a building which is 20 years old and it has become too small,” Mackay admits.

“So we have sat down and developed plans for a potential redevelopment. Obviously we have to speak to East Lothian Council and put it all down properly, but we are hoping for a revamp of the area.

“We have the possibility of another building, extra pitches and the potential for an indoor full-size 11-a-side facility as well.

“We are high up altitude wise in Tranent and the wind does create issues here.

“The difference it would make to the academy and community to be able to take players inside to a protected indoor-full size dome can’t be overstated.”

As a club Hibs are in a better place than anyone thought possible when David Gray’s team couldn’t win a game for love or money in the dark days of autumn.

Bottom of the SPFL Premiership after one win in 12 games, the fourth managerial appointment in three years was fighting for his job. Chairman Ian Gordon was invited to

Las Vegas for clear-the-air talks with multi-club investor Bill Foley and his Black Knight Football Club lieutenants Ryan Caswell and Tim Bezbatchenko following complaints that their input into key decisions was being ignored.

“I remember thinking, ‘This has to calm’,” admits Mackay now.

“My role was to make the place a stable ship and ensure that every message coming out of here is normal. What people expect. We had to become the club that we should be.

“There was a perception around the club where that wasn’t necessarily the case.”

An improbable 96th-minute equaliser from Rocky Bushiri in a 3-3 draw with Aberdeen in November proved a sliding-doors moment. After defeats to St Mirren and Dundee, when everything felt dysfunctional and chaotic, Hibernian rallied. They lost just one of the their next 14 games.

“People outside were seeing what was happening on the pitch,” Mackay says.

“I was seeing what was actually happened behind the scenes.

“We had a pretty imbalanced and bloated squad and we lost six games in the last five minutes.

“There were huge individual errors happening, we had four red cards in 12 games and we missed three penalties.

“No excuses but everyone could see that anything that could go wrong was going wrong.”

The current average shelf life of a manager in the Scottish Premiership is 12.75 months. While five clubs will start the new season with a new head coach, Hibernian held their nerve and stuck with the one they had. While few knew how much stress Gray came under during the dark winter days of November, Mackay had been there himself.

“I’ve stood in those shoes. And the pressure in the role is incredible,” he notes. “You are judged every Saturday on 90 minutes and until you stand in those shoes and see the pressure that comes from players, staff, owners, press and the public, you don’t know how that feels.

“Back in the day when I was a young manager you got two or three years to do your job.
“These days you are lucky to get 12 months. The situation is getting worse.”

The relationship with the Black Knights Group is now healthy, the two sides ‘closer than they’ve ever been’.



Black Knights president Bazbatchenko is a regular visitor to Edinburgh. Mackay has travelled to Bournemouth for meetings and Cherries performance director Jay Melette performed an audit of the Hibernian set-up. The Easter Road side will spend four days training with their English Premier League step cousins before playing a pre-season bounce game. The Black Knight representatives were as blown away as everyone else, meanwhile, by heartfelt renditions of ‘Sunshine on Leith’ after the wins over Hearts and Celtic.

“It’s the 150th anniversary of the club’s creation this year,” ponders Mackay. “It all stemmed from the docks and the disadvantaged area of Leith and there is a great history attached to this club.

“The Gordon family have embraced that massively, ploughing something like £24 million into the club since the day they took over in terms of infrastructure and backing managers and training facilities to make sure everything is as good as it can be. They stuck at it through really tough times.

“So when I see the last few weeks of the season and the happiness around the club I think to back to some of the abuse they took during the hard times and think to myself, ‘My god, they could easily have thrown the keys in’.

“That’s why it’s so satisfying to see fans singing ‘Sunshine on Leith’ or coming up to Ian [Gordon] and his mother Kit and thanking them for giving them memories to embrace.
“Over a period of time, Hibs is probably a club which hasn’t won as many things as we could have.

“Because of the size of the fan base, the stadium, the facilities, the capital city aspect, people want us to light the touch-paper and catch fire.

“And I want Hibs to be a badge people are proud of instead of a club where they’re looking in and saying, ‘What’s happening in there now?’”

Hibernian FC
Malky Mackay
Football
Thanks for that 👍

[04Sauzee]

Having read the Herald story earlier I found this bit interesting

'Jay Melette performed an audit of the Hibernian set-up'

Jay Melette would appear to be the head of the medical dept at Bournemouth.

[J-C]

St Mirren linked with Alex Paulsen. Wonder if Bournemouth would send a player to another team in our league

He has potential but he's still pretty young and never played outside the A League, we've just signed a player with experience to challenge Smith, they'll want him to play games and not sit on the bench.

[ElginHibbie]

The four days training down at theirs be interesting, think they've not long opened a big new fancy facility?

[BoomtownHibees]

Just on this piece:

“ Plans for a new full-size indoor training dome and a new facility for the title-winning women’s team are well down the tracks after a land swap deal at East Mains”

I thought the plans were for a new mens facility with the women continuing to use the current place? Maybe I’ve picked it up wrong

[Bridge hibs]

Just on this piece:

“ Plans for a new full-size indoor training dome and a new facility for the title-winning women’s team are well down the tracks after a land swap deal at East Mains”

I thought the plans were for a new mens facility with the women continuing to use the current place? Maybe I’ve picked it up wrongThink the Women will be using the current place but I think their pitch will be surrounded by a “banking” due to the near constant winds at EM

[04Sauzee]

From Anthony Joseph (sky sports)

Aberdeen are in talks to sign Portsmouth striker Kusini Yengi.

It’s understood the Australia international is keen on a move to the Scottish Cup winners, who are guaranteed European league phase football.

The 26yo is available on a free, with his Pompey contract expiring.

[JohnM1875]

Connor Coady to the Huns according to the DR

[McD]

Here you go. I've cleaned out the ad crap as much as I can but a few bits might remain.

Exclusive
Malky Mackay on Hibs' £5m shot, training centre plan and Black Knights

Hibernian FC

Exclusive by Stephen McGowan
Sports writer at large
@mcgowan_stephen


Malky Mackay is looking to the future after a strong season across the board for Hibs (Image: NQ Design)
THE ledge of Malky Mackay’s office window is lined with one book after another on the art of management and leadership.

Reaching out to grab one, Hibernian’s sporting director flips straight to a page in ‘Legacy’, James Kerr’s bestselling analysis of the All Blacks.

Made up of the 15 mantras which turned the New Zealand rugby team into the most ruthless winning machine in winning sport, a yellow post-it note marks out a chapter entitled: ‘No D***heads.’

It’s a rule of thumb Mackay has tried to apply to one of Scotland’s biggest football clubs. The key to forging the culture which secured European football for the men, women’s and under-18 teams at the end of a roller-coaster season.

“The final 10 days of the season were an incredible 10 days for the football club,” said Mackay.

“We were balancing the men’s team going for third in the Premiership with the women’s team going for the SWPL title and the under-18 team going for their league as well.

“All of it was balanced on a knife-edge. Were the men’s team going to finish third or fourth or fifth?

“Were the women going to win the tightest title race ever or come second?

“And then the kids had three games in a week and that was always going to determine whether they were going to win the league or not.

“So now we have the three teams in Europe and I think Celtic and Rangers are the only other clubs who’ve achieved that in Scotland.”

The loss of £5 million for automatic qualification to the group stages of the Europa Conference League should have cast a pall over Hibernian’s season.

When Aberdeen unexpectedly beat Celtic in the Scottish Cup final, they secured a prize expected to fall into the laps of the Easter Road club when they stormed from the bottom of the Premiership to secure a third-place finish. If Mackay has his way it still will.

“That £5m is still there for us,” he says. “The outcome of the Aberdeen Celtic game changed things in terms of which team went straight into the group stages. But that wasn’t something we could affect.

“All we could do was finish as high in the league as we possibly could.

“We did that by finishing third and I’m not certain what more we could do.

“Congratulations to Aberdeen, fair play to them for winning the cup. That’s life.

“All you can do in this business is look after yourself. And we put an awful lot into what we achieved in the end.”

Technical director of the Scottish FA for four years, Mackay now works tirelessly in pursuit of marginal gains at the Hibs Training Centre in Tranent. Plans for a new full-size indoor training dome and a new facility for the title-winning women’s team are well down the tracks after a land swap deal at East Mains.

Trailed at the club’s AGM, the 20-year-old facility has become cramped and an 11-a-side indoor facility – a long-held goal of the late owner Ron Gordon – is planned with the financial assistance of SFA Pitching Up facility funds.

“There is a situation now our men and women’s teams are sharing a building which is 20 years old and it has become too small,” Mackay admits.

“So we have sat down and developed plans for a potential redevelopment. Obviously we have to speak to East Lothian Council and put it all down properly, but we are hoping for a revamp of the area.

“We have the possibility of another building, extra pitches and the potential for an indoor full-size 11-a-side facility as well.

“We are high up altitude wise in Tranent and the wind does create issues here.

“The difference it would make to the academy and community to be able to take players inside to a protected indoor-full size dome can’t be overstated.”

As a club Hibs are in a better place than anyone thought possible when David Gray’s team couldn’t win a game for love or money in the dark days of autumn.

Bottom of the SPFL Premiership after one win in 12 games, the fourth managerial appointment in three years was fighting for his job. Chairman Ian Gordon was invited to

Las Vegas for clear-the-air talks with multi-club investor Bill Foley and his Black Knight Football Club lieutenants Ryan Caswell and Tim Bezbatchenko following complaints that their input into key decisions was being ignored.

“I remember thinking, ‘This has to calm’,” admits Mackay now.

“My role was to make the place a stable ship and ensure that every message coming out of here is normal. What people expect. We had to become the club that we should be.

“There was a perception around the club where that wasn’t necessarily the case.”

An improbable 96th-minute equaliser from Rocky Bushiri in a 3-3 draw with Aberdeen in November proved a sliding-doors moment. After defeats to St Mirren and Dundee, when everything felt dysfunctional and chaotic, Hibernian rallied. They lost just one of the their next 14 games.

“People outside were seeing what was happening on the pitch,” Mackay says.

“I was seeing what was actually happened behind the scenes.

“We had a pretty imbalanced and bloated squad and we lost six games in the last five minutes.

“There were huge individual errors happening, we had four red cards in 12 games and we missed three penalties.

“No excuses but everyone could see that anything that could go wrong was going wrong.”

The current average shelf life of a manager in the Scottish Premiership is 12.75 months. While five clubs will start the new season with a new head coach, Hibernian held their nerve and stuck with the one they had. While few knew how much stress Gray came under during the dark winter days of November, Mackay had been there himself.

“I’ve stood in those shoes. And the pressure in the role is incredible,” he notes. “You are judged every Saturday on 90 minutes and until you stand in those shoes and see the pressure that comes from players, staff, owners, press and the public, you don’t know how that feels.

“Back in the day when I was a young manager you got two or three years to do your job.
“These days you are lucky to get 12 months. The situation is getting worse.”

The relationship with the Black Knights Group is now healthy, the two sides ‘closer than they’ve ever been’.



Black Knights president Bazbatchenko is a regular visitor to Edinburgh. Mackay has travelled to Bournemouth for meetings and Cherries performance director Jay Melette performed an audit of the Hibernian set-up. The Easter Road side will spend four days training with their English Premier League step cousins before playing a pre-season bounce game. The Black Knight representatives were as blown away as everyone else, meanwhile, by heartfelt renditions of ‘Sunshine on Leith’ after the wins over Hearts and Celtic.

“It’s the 150th anniversary of the club’s creation this year,” ponders Mackay. “It all stemmed from the docks and the disadvantaged area of Leith and there is a great history attached to this club.

“The Gordon family have embraced that massively, ploughing something like £24 million into the club since the day they took over in terms of infrastructure and backing managers and training facilities to make sure everything is as good as it can be. They stuck at it through really tough times.

“So when I see the last few weeks of the season and the happiness around the club I think to back to some of the abuse they took during the hard times and think to myself, ‘My god, they could easily have thrown the keys in’.

“That’s why it’s so satisfying to see fans singing ‘Sunshine on Leith’ or coming up to Ian [Gordon] and his mother Kit and thanking them for giving them memories to embrace.
“Over a period of time, Hibs is probably a club which hasn’t won as many things as we could have.

“Because of the size of the fan base, the stadium, the facilities, the capital city aspect, people want us to light the touch-paper and catch fire.

“And I want Hibs to be a badge people are proud of instead of a club where they’re looking in and saying, ‘What’s happening in there now?’”

Hibernian FC
Malky Mackay
Football


The same ‘no dickheads’ rule is also applied at Liverpool, since Klopp came in. Seems to have served them well, and based on who we’ve recruited over the last 12 months or so, and how they’ve performed, done us pretty well as well.

[04Sauzee]

🆕 Josh Doig a 'transfer target' for Juventus as former Hibs star could land dream ticket to the Champions League 💶🇮🇹

dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football…

[makaveli1875]

🆕 Josh Doig a 'transfer target' for Juventus as former Hibs star could land dream ticket to the Champions League 💶🇮🇹

dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football…

That would be some move for him

[04Sauzee]

That would be some move for him

I'm sure we hear about big moves for Doing every season but this would be an outstanding move for him and I'm guessing would be decent business for Hibs also.

[keep the faith]

I'm sure we hear about big moves for Doing every season but this would be an outstanding move for him and I'm guessing would be decent business for Hibs also.

Was our sell on clause not just a once and done?

[MagicSwirlingShip]

I'm sure we hear about big moves for Doing every season but this would be an outstanding move for him and I'm guessing would be decent business for Hibs also.

Was gutted for him when the Marseille move collapsed.

[04Sauzee]

Was our sell on clause not just a once and done?

If it was I wasn't aware that was the case, that's a bit of a sore one.

[007]

Was our sell on clause not just a once and done?

It would all depend on the wording and most likely need each subsequent transfer to include a sell on clause so I'd imagine Hellas Verona would need to be getting a percentage from Sassuolo selling to Juventus.

[Ship of Hope]

Be good to know whats happening with Rocky..

[JasonC1875]

Be good to know whats happening with Rocky..

DR Congo play again tomorrow so I reckon there’ll be a decision either way towards the end of next week.

[04Sauzee]

Quite a few Jambos believe Shankland won't be a Hearts player next season, seems to be a rumour he's signed for West Brom which would be surprising.

[B.H.F.C]

Quite a few Jambos believe Shankland won't be a Hearts player next season, seems to be a rumour he's signed for West Brom which would be surprising.

I hope he is away. Much as he was pish for a lot of this season I think McInnes would play him where he should play and he’d score goals.

[7Hero]

Xavier Simons has been given permission by Hull City to hold talks with
@HibernianFC
over a permanent deal. 💰✍🏻

[Donegal Hibby]

Quite a few Jambos believe Shankland won't be a Hearts player next season, seems to be a rumour he's signed for West Brom which would be surprising.

West Brom and Southampton were rumoured to be interested a while ago , see on their forum some think they are getting Findlay from Killie too .

[SHODAN]

Updated the list. Let me know if I've missed anything.

[04Sauzee]

West Brom and Southampton were rumoured to be interested a while ago , see on their forum some think they are getting Findlay from Killie too .

Wouldn't surprise me about Findlay as McInnes defo likes him. I wonder what that would mean for McCart, or if they would be happy to have them both.

[CentreForward]

I hope he is away. Much as he was pish for a lot of this season I think McInnes would play him where he should play and he’d score goals.

Agree entirely. He started to score goals again towards the end of the season once Fox played him in the right place. Am sure McInness will try the same so would be very happy to see him leaving.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Agree entirely. He started to score goals again towards the end of the season once Fox played him in the right place. Am sure McInness will try the same so would be very happy to see him leaving.

:agree:

Even in a bad season he’s good for somewhere around double figures. Hearts will massively miss him if he goes.

[CentreForward]

:agree:

Even in a bad season he’s good for somewhere around double figures. Hearts will massively miss him if he goes.


Agreed and want him away!

[Leith Green]

Was our sell on clause not just a once and done?


I think the sell on agreements are sometimes based on the selling club agreeing on receiving a percentage of any profit made on the player if he is sold in the future. Hence there being money in it for the club initially selling the player , including if the player makes any further moves. I seem to recall Hibs doing this when we sold Steven Fletcher , think we scored big time with his transfers after leaving Hibs. For this to work , the club who initially buy the player would need to have a sell on clause if they go on to sell the player. That club would then be due a percentage of the proceeds from their sale of player

[tamig]

I think the sell on agreements are sometimes based on the selling club agreeing on receiving a percentage of any profit made on the player if he is sold in the future. Hence there being money in it for the club initially selling the player , including if the player makes any further moves. I seem to recall Hibs doing this when we sold Steven Fletcher , think we scored big time with his transfers after leaving Hibs. For this to work , the club who initially buy the player would need to have a sell on clause if they go on to sell the player. That club would then be due a percentage of the proceeds from their sale of player

There are numerous ways sell-on clauses can work. I suspect nobody posting on this thread knows the fine detail of the Josh Doig situation.

[Stuart93]

Looks as if shankland’s away down to sign with west brom

Glad he’s leaving the gimps, weakens them significantly

[Bridge hibs]

Looks as if shankland’s away down to sign with west brom

Glad he’s leaving the gimps, weakens them significantly

The pie shops in Gorgie and surrounding areas will be gutted, sales will plummet

[HoboHarry]

The pie shops in Gorgie and surrounding areas will be gutted, sales will plummet

True, but on a more positive note, his neighbour's will get a minimum of two extra hours of sunlight with that gigantic heid moved down to Englandshire.

[JohnM1875]

Looks as if shankland’s away down to sign with west brom

Glad he’s leaving the gimps, weakens them significantly

I’ll believe it when it happens. Could just be trying to squeeze a few extra £k from Hearts. He’d struggle in the Championship, well, maybe not struggle. But won’t score 10+ I reckon.

Far too slow.

[Aldo]

I’ll believe it when it happens. Could just be trying to squeeze a few extra £k from Hearts. He’d struggle in the Championship, well, maybe not struggle. But won’t score 10+ I reckon.

Far too slow.

He’s had a contract offer on the table since the turn of the year yet he hasn’t signed it. It’s really funny tbh and if nothing materialises elsewhere as a free agent he’ll pop back to the Plaza and sign for the gullible ones and declare it’s the only place he ever wanted to be.

[Winston Ingram]

Looks as if shankland’s away down to sign with west brom

Glad he’s leaving the gimps, weakens them significantly

Like Nisbet, he will be back within a year. He’ll be starting a game in the SPFL in August 2026. Book it.

[The Spaceman]

Josh Doig being targeted by Juventus - what a move that would be for him!

[Gmack7]

Like Nisbet, he will be back within a year. He’ll be starting a game in the SPFL in August 2026. Book it.

I think there's a fair chance he could be on loan in January, probably league 1

[Ribs1875]

I am surprised Aberdeen never tried to lure Shankland in by now. He was probably expecting to go to the hun tribute band, but they are probably happy to waste 3 million on one of there many uninspiring signings over him.

[JimBHibees]

The same ‘no dickheads’ rule is also applied at Liverpool, since Klopp came in. Seems to have served them well, and based on who we’ve recruited over the last 12 months or so, and how they’ve performed, done us pretty well as well.

Suppose the skill is in who is judging. One persons good guy could be another persons dickhead.

[JimBHibees]

True, but on a more positive note, his neighbour's will get a minimum of two extra hours of sunlight with that gigantic heid moved down to Englandshire.

:greengrin

[04Sauzee]

Looks like the computer as been fired up.

Claudio Braga on Hearts transfer radar as Derek McInnes turns eye to Aalesund FK hitman in search for firepower
The new Tynecastle boss has his eye

[Springbank]

Hearts are so well run
It's good they got such a big fee for shankland
And Souttar
And Hickey

[Bridge hibs]

Looks like the computer as been fired up.

Claudio Braga on Hearts transfer radar as Derek McInnes turns eye to Aalesund FK hitman in search for firepower
The new Tynecastle boss has his eye

Played for CD Fatima, must be Shanklands replacement

[Souter96Mac]

He'll be back up the road in January - can't see him doing well down south at all.

[djw80!]

According to some sfa scotland account on X hibs have made a move for Ronan Hale, unsure how reliable the account is though could be rubbish.

[delbert]

I'm pretty sure Salinger is coming in to be no. 1,

Smith has been pretty good shot stopping wise but I don't fully understand the love in he gets on here - he's very poor at coming for crosses, has inconsistent distribution and was at fault for a few goals towards the end of the season.

Excellent choice as back-up, but I'm glad we're signing someone of decent pedigree to hopefully come in and start

Smith had a very good six months and thoroughly deserved his contract extension but he also lost a couple of poor goals towards the end of the season and I think that probably confirmed to some at the club that he needs to be pushed harder and bringing in a genuine challenger for the No1 spot can only be a good thing. If Sallinger is better and wins the gloves then so be it, all that matters is the strength of the team, but Smith deserved the security of the longer contract and the opportunity to fight for the first team every week.

[JohnM1875]

According to some sfa scotland account on X hibs have made a move for Ronan Hale, unsure how reliable the account is though could be rubbish.

2.3k followers. So no idea how credible. Wouldn’t be a bad option, but think he could probs move down south for more than we’d be willing to offer him. He’d be backup for us.

[04Sauzee]

According to some sfa scotland account on X hibs have made a move for Ronan Hale, unsure how reliable the account is though could be rubbish.

Think a few clubs down south are sniffing about him, Wigan may have been one. I can definitely see him moving down south tbh

[Donegal Hibby]

Think a few clubs down south are sniffing about him, Wigan may have been one. I can definitely see him moving down south tbh

Wigan according to reports are one of the clubs interested , Luton another …

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/former-hibs-player-wigan-athletic-transfer-efl-premiership-rival-5166135

[Stuart93]

Think a few clubs down south are sniffing about him, Wigan may have been one. I can definitely see him moving down south tbh

Will be lost to English lower league obscurity

[pepe]

Hearts are so well run
It's good they got such a big fee for shankland
And Souttar
And Hickey
And Doig and Cummings

[Fifeshirehibs]

Surely Arbuckle will fail a West Brom medical unless its just a quick cough and squeeze of the lemons.

[Stevie Reid]

Will be lost to English lower league obscurity

I don’t think obscurity is an accurate term tbf. Some pretty big teams play in the EFL across all divisions, and Sky show more than half of all games across those leagues. They’ve also paid a huge amount of money for the privilege.

So very good wages and exposure down there.

[Lago]

I don’t think obscurity is an accurate term tbf. Some pretty big teams play in the EFL across all divisions, and Sky show more than half of all games across those leagues. They’ve also paid a huge amount of money for the privilege.

So very good wages and exposure down there.
This 👍

[Unseen work]

Fraser Murray joining Wigan

That’s a brilliant move for him

[04Sauzee]

Fraser Murray joining Wigan

That’s a brilliant move for him

It really is, I'm surprised but well done to the boy.

[Unseen work]

Kusini Yengi signs for Aberdeen

[Springbank]

Kusini Yengi signs for Aberdeen

Shankland was hearts top target
This guy was the back up plan
Onto plan C & scandinavian lower tiers

[Gmack7]

Shankland was hearts top target
This guy was the back up plan
Onto plan C & scandinavian lower tiers

Jamestown anal will sort them

[jacomo]

Slight digression, but anyone looking to see coverage of the new Hibs signing in the Evening News, our local paper, will be disappointed. Their football coverage on today’s edition, consists of back page stories about Hearts players attracting attention ( probably from moths) and Craig Gordon’s testimonial. 4 pages of Scotland build-up (understandable). Two pages of general sports news featuring woman’s cricket and darts. Then a full page of Hearts news all about Shankland and Penrice attracting suitors and finally a full page of angling news. No mention of Hibs anywhere. Am I just being paranoid, but do you think they are ignoring us in the hope that we will just go away?


Time for the EEN / Scotsman to be put out of their misery. Their continued existence is an insult to once proud titles of the same name.

[EGL2000]

Kusini Yengi signs for Aberdeen

I actually think he will do very well up here. Struggled in the championship but I think his physical attributes will make him a great bit of business from the dons.

[Ribs1875]

Wonder what is happening with Rocky? If we keep him for me that's our best summer signing.

[Stuart93]

I’m convinced Aberdeen’s scouting dept put names forward they see on twitter and if they’re linked with hearts or hibs it’s a bonus.

[Paul1642]

Wonder what is happening with Rocky? If we keep him for me that's our best summer signing.

DR Congo’s 2nd / final friendly kicks off in hour. Assume he will be home and making his decision soon.

[HoboHarry]

Time for the EEN / Scotsman to be put out of their misery. Their continued existence is an insult to once proud titles of the same name.
Surprising to me that the majority haven't shut their doors already, pointless (IMHO) buying a paper to read about something that was on the internet hours or even a full day ago.

[King Cosell]

DR Congo’s 2nd / final friendly kicks off in hour. Assume he will be home and making his decision soon.

Rocky's not in the matchday squad.

[Nevi_SOL]

Rocky's not in the matchday squad.

Rocky is starting apparently

[bingo70]

Rocky's not in the matchday squad.

https://x.com/fecofardc/status/1931723944731488342?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Says here he is starting.

[King Cosell]

https://x.com/fecofardc/status/1931723944731488342?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Says here he is starting.

No sign of him on Sofascore.

[King Cosell]

No sign of him on Sofascore.

I take that back, I'm watching him now. Come on Rocky!

[JimBHibees]

I actually think he will do very well up here. Struggled in the championship but I think his physical attributes will make him a great bit of business from the dons.

That is his brother

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

I take that back, I'm watching him now. Come on Rocky!

Watched a few mins, quite an atmosphere for a friendly

[BILLYHIBS]

Dortmund agree deal to buy Jobe Bellingham 19 from Sunderland for €33m 15% sell on included

Wonder if they might want to keep Nectar now ?

Live scores

[EGL2000]

That is his brother

English Championship with Portsmouth.

[EGL2000]

Dortmund agree deal to buy Jobe Bellingham from Sunderland for €33m 15% sell on included

Wonder if they might want to keep Nectar now ?

Live scores

Not that I've watched loads of him. However, I have never really been that impressed when I've seen him play. Definitely never stands out as a star for them when I've been watching.

[Bridge hibs]

Dortmund agree deal to buy Jobe Bellingham from Sunderland for €33m 15% sell on included

Wonder if they might want to keep Nectar now ?

Live scoresThats an expensive jobe 🤔

[BILLYHIBS]

Never been impressed with Jobe looks expensive seen Jude have a few stinkers anaw

Think Triantis will fit right in 😀

[1875Sean]

Dortmund agree deal to buy Jobe Bellingham from Sunderland for €33m 15% sell on included

Wonder if they might want to keep Nectar now ?

Live scores

Pretty sure they will be after a few other players in that position

[Paul1642]

Rocky is starting apparently

Hopefully this helps us. Becoming an international regular and aiming to play at the next Word cup is presumably a big part in his decision making. Right now he’s firmly on the cusp of it and would know that unless his form drops massively, he’d be signing the Hibs contract to be a first team player and fan favourite, with exposure in Europe.

Moving club is more of a gamble and he won’t get into the DR Congo starting team if he doesn’t settle and sits on a clubs bench.

[Donegal Hibby]

Dortmund agree deal to buy Jobe Bellingham from Sunderland for €33m 15% sell on included

Wonder if they might want to keep Nectar now ?

Live scores

Or they use this money and spend big on a couple of midfielders which might make it harder for Triantis to get a game there .

[Edinburgh Green]

I actually think he will do very well up here. Struggled in the championship but I think his physical attributes will make him a great bit of business from the dons.

Watched a highlight reel of him from a dons fan on X and he genuinely doesn’t score a goal in the first 2 min 😂

[JimBHibees]

Never been impressed with Jobe looks expensive seen Jude have a few stinkers anaw

Think Triantis will fit right in 😀

Agree with that re Bellingham not watched loads but never been hugely impressed. Looks a bit one paced

[EGL2000]

Watched a highlight reel of him from a dons fan on X and he genuinely doesn’t score a goal in the first 2 min 😂

Didn't score at all last season but think he done fairly well in league 1. The championship is generally a pretty big step up compared to our league so wouldn't be judging him on that.

[EGL2000]

Or they use this money and spend big on a couple of midfielders which might make it harder for Triantis to get a game there .

Already spent most of it getting Lee Fee permanently from Roma.

[JimBHibees]

English Championship with Portsmouth.

👍

[Donegal Hibby]

Already spent most of it getting Lee Fee permanently from Roma.

I might be wrong but I think you’ll see them spend more yet . They’ll need to if they want to give themselves a chance to stay up , really don’t think they’ll see Triantis as a player that’s anywhere near that level yet .

https://eflanalysis.com/news/sunderland-have-200m-stretch-target-as-kyril-louis-dreyfus-sets-premier-league-transfer-budget/

[EGL2000]

I might be wrong but I think you’ll see them spend more yet . They’ll need to if they want to give themselves a chance to stay up , really don’t think they’ll see Triantis as a player that’s anywhere near that level yet .

https://eflanalysis.com/news/sunderland-have-200m-stretch-target-as-kyril-louis-dreyfus-sets-premier-league-transfer-budget/

Yeah I agree they will spend more. Think most people would agree that Triantis isn't premier league quality yet. However, I could definitely see him moving on from us and going up another level to test himself.

[Tyler Durden]

Looks like the computer as been fired up.

Claudio Braga on Hearts transfer radar as Derek McInnes turns eye to Aalesund FK hitman in search for firepower
The new Tynecastle boss has his eye

This guy has a 1 in 3 goal record in the Norwegian OBOS league - 2nd division.

Melkersen scored 17 in 26 at that level before we signed him. This guy is 25 I think. Time to reboot that super computer

[Donegal Hibby]

Yeah I agree they will spend more. Think most people would agree that Triantis isn't premier league quality yet. However, I could definitely see him moving on from us and going up another level to test himself.

I think because they will spend more is the reason he will move from Sunderland as he won’t get a look in there now though I doubt ( hope I’m wrong) we will see him back which is why we are rumoured to be after Xavier Simon .

[gbhibby]

Yeah I agree they will spend more. Think most people would agree that Triantis isn't premier league quality yet. However, I could definitely see him moving on from us and going up another level to test himself.

You could say that about the whole of the Sunderland team, you don't know if they are that level until they play at that level, Sunderlands best player didn't do a lot on loan at us.

[04Sauzee]

Not sure if this has mentioned or posted below of how much this guy gets correct.

🚨 𝐍𝐄𝐖: Bristol City and Swansea City are plotting to sign Empoli midfielder Liam Henderson on a free transfer.

#BristolCity 🔴⚪️ [@SportsPeteO 🤝 @footyinsider247]

[Lago]

Not sure if this has mentioned or posted below of how much this guy gets correct.

🚨 𝐍𝐄𝐖: Bristol City and Swansea City are plotting to sign Empoli midfielder Liam Henderson on a free transfer.

#BristolCity 🔴⚪️ [@SportsPeteO 🤝 @footyinsider247]
A free, is he out of contract?

[04Sauzee]

A free, is he out of contract?

Not sure but I'm not sure this guy Pete O'Rourke gets much right?

[Paulie Walnuts]

A free, is he out of contract?

Yeah he is.

[gbhibby]

Yeah he is.
Could he be the player that we are trying to get back at the club that was mentioned.

[Donegal Hibby]

Fair few opinions on the Sunderland forum about Triantis , some think they should have a look at him pre-season before deciding to move him on or not . While others say they need better for the Premier League. What I did notice was a couple of the last post were suggesting he has caught the attention of Celtic . Don’t think that would be a good move for him at all .

[gbhibby]

Fair few opinions on the Sunderland forum about Triantis , some think they should have a look at him pre-season before deciding to move him on or not . While others say they need better for the Premier League. What I did notice was a couple of the last post were suggesting he has caught the attention of Celtic . Don’t think that would be a good move for him at all .
There is also talk of St Pauli being interested. Good enough for top league in Germany?

[badabing67]

(19) Hull City News ⚫️🟠 on X: "Xavier Simons has been given permission by Hull City to hold talks with @HibernianFC over a permanent deal. 💰✍🏻 #HCAFC #Hibs https://t.co/0kZEMbxYqk" / X (https://x.com/HullCityStats/status/1931303673008738378)

[JohnM1875]

Not sure if this has mentioned or posted below of how much this guy gets correct.

🚨 𝐍𝐄𝐖: Bristol City and Swansea City are plotting to sign Empoli midfielder Liam Henderson on a free transfer.

#BristolCity 🔴⚪️ [@SportsPeteO 🤝 @footyinsider247]

If Hendo is even a remote possibility we should be all over it. Be criminal if not.

The fact two Championship teams are after him makes me think he probably isn’t a possibility.

[KazaHibs]

Word is Porto is coming back. Triantis away to Celtic

[badabing67]

Word is Porto is coming back. Triantis away to Celtic

Where you hearing that from

[Donegal Hibby]

There is also talk of St Pauli being interested. Good enough for top league in Germany?

I don’t think he’s ready for the English Premier yet personally . It wasn’t that long ago a fair amount of our own fans weren’t bothered if we got him back. I think wherever he goes he needs to be playing regularly and I don’t see that happening at Celtic either if there’s anything in their interest in him .

[Ronniekirk]

Word is Porto is coming back. Triantis away to Celtic

Celtic are after Demir Tiknav Midfielder so Triantis would seem a strange one

[Donegal Hibby]

Triantis thread on Sunderland forum…

https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/triantis.1657478/page-9

[EskbankHibby]

Triantis thread on Sunderland forum…

https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/triantis.1657478/page-9

Wee bit dismissive of us and the league on that thread (not all but most), our big advantage would be that in the year before the World Cup he would be a starter for us.

Sunderland or Celtic (not even sure their interest is genuine) can’t offer that.

Time will tell, I’m please for him that he has options, did brilliantly for us, good luck to him wherever he goes.

[Forza Fred]

Kusini Yengi signs for Aberdeen

That’s Aberdeen signed 2 A Leagures in just over a week…..both forwards

Milanovic is much more skilful than Yengi, but Yengi is probably more suited to the Scottish game.

[Lago]

Yeah he is.
Thanks, missed that 👍

[JohnM1875]

Surely hear about Rocky and Hoilett this week? Really surprised we haven’t heard about Hoilett before now.

Hopefully know about Xavier Simons this week too. Would love a striker rumour, we’re desperate for one.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Surely hear about Rocky and Hoilett this week? Really surprised we haven’t heard about Hoilett before now.

Hopefully know about Xavier Simons this week too. Would love a striker rumour, we’re desperate for one.

Are they not still on international duty? I'm sure it was mentioned that we would know more after they had played for their respective countries.

[Donegal Hibby]

Surely hear about Rocky and Hoilett this week? Really surprised we haven’t heard about Hoilett before now.

Hopefully know about Xavier Simons this week too. Would love a striker rumour, we’re desperate for one.

Hull City rumoured to be signing a midfielder, maybe we will hear about Simons this week …

https://x.com/HullCityStats/status/1931844720478814348

[badabing67]

Are they not still on international duty? I'm sure it was mentioned that we would know more after they had played for their respective countries.


Rocky was playing yesterday so should be returning from international today or tomorrow

[JohnM1875]

Are they not still on international duty? I'm sure it was mentioned that we would know more after they had played for their respective countries.

Definitely the case for Rocky. Not sure if Hoilett made the Canada squad? Wasn’t in the named squad for their game against Ukraine on Saturday by the looks of it.

Canada appears to have matches all through June. Friendly on the 11th then the Gold Cup starting on the 18th.

Think the chat was we’d hear about Rocky this week.

[JohnM1875]

Hull City rumoured to be signing a midfielder, maybe we will hear about Simons this week …

https://x.com/HullCityStats/status/1931844720478814348

Good stuff. Think Simons could turn out to be an excellent signing!

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Triantis thread on Sunderland forum…

https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/triantis.1657478/page-9

Arguably, without us, Sunderland would have an under performing centre half who few people would have heard of, and now they have a strong midfielder with decent sized clubs interested.

[SHODAN]

Could we move Porteous into midfield?

[badabing67]

Could we move Porteous into midfield?

We would need to sign him first. Do you know something we don't

[Donegal Hibby]

Arguably, without us, Sunderland would have an under performing centre half who few people would have heard of, and now they have a strong midfielder with decent sized clubs interested.

He’s certainly improved at us a lot which is down to the manager and his staff moving him from CH to Midfield. I suppose one thing we have in our favour is he knows there is a manager that believes in him and he will be one of the first names on the team sheet , wither that’s enough to persuade him to come back if a deal could be struck with Sunderland , who knows.

I think some of the comments on the Sunderland forum are generally what most fans of English clubs have as an opinion of our league in it’s not very good , pub league etc ..

I think this is a bit arrogant and shows the lack of knowledge a lot have about our league , yes they have more money and probably better quality but our league is really competitive and has its own qualities as we have seen in how many good players it’s produced over the years.

[berwickhibee]

He’s certainly improved at us a lot which is down to the manager and his staff moving him from CH to Midfield. I suppose one thing we have in our favour is he knows there is a manager that believes in him and he will be one of the first names on the team sheet , wither that’s enough to persuade him to come back if a deal could be struck with Sunderland , who knows.

I think some of the comments on the Sunderland forum are generally what most fans of English clubs have as an opinion of our league in it’s not very good , pub league etc ..

I think this is a bit arrogant and shows the lack of knowledge a lot have about our league , yes they have more money and probably better quality but our league is really competitive and has its own qualities as we have seen in how many good players it’s produced over the years.
Sunderland🤣

Done well to get to premier league, probably fortunate, we know where they will be next season and could take years to get back up.

Been to a few Sunderland games and most are really realistic.

I just say that mayenda couldn't get a game for us😁💚

[JohnM1875]

Could we move Porteous into midfield?

He was absolutely honking there when we tried it.

[SHODAN]

We would need to sign him first. Do you know something we don't

I know absolutely nothing, just thinking aloud!

[easty]

Could we move Porteous into midfield?

He'd be our best defender, if we can get him, let's play him in defence.

[Donegal Hibby]

There’s two players we had before that a few have mentioned it would be good to get back . One is Porto and the other Nisbet , both are undoubtedly good players though I do question both players character and attitude after their last spell here . I just don’t see either of them as the right type of character the club have openly spoken about in what they want in players they sign . Maybe I’m alone on this but in both cases I hope we look elsewhere.

[Paulie Walnuts]

There’s two players we had before that a few have mentioned it would be good to get back . One is Porto and the other Nisbet , both are undoubtedly good players though I do question both players character and attitude after their last spell here . I just don’t see either of them as the right type of character the club have openly spoken about in what they want in players they sign . Maybe I’m alone on this but in both cases I hope we look elsewhere.

Not just you, I wouldn’t be in a hurry to see either of them back.

Think Porteous is wildly overrated and isn’t worth all the other crap that comes along with him. Nisbet is wildly inconsistent.

We can get better than both imo.

[Wilson]

There’s two players we had before that a few have mentioned it would be good to get back . One is Porto and the other Nisbet , both are undoubtedly good players though I do question both players character and attitude after their last spell here . I just don’t see either of them as the right type of character the club have openly spoken about in what they want in players they sign . Maybe I’m alone on this but in both cases I hope we look elsewhere.

That is the thing though. Gray knows them. If he thinks they'd be a fit then they will, and we can all park that attitude nonsense and let Gray get on with getting the best out of them.

[Donegal Hibby]

Not just you, I wouldn’t be in a hurry to see either of them back.

Think Porteous is wildly overrated and isn’t worth all the other crap that comes along with him. Nisbet is wildly inconsistent.

We can get better than both imo.

It’s not often we agree but we do here 👍

[WestStandWillie]

I really can't see Porteous coming back. Gray played with him enough to know he can't be trusted. Stupid bookings, failure to take the blame for mistakes. Completely goes against the team spirit the current squad have developed over the season.

[JimBHibees]

He’s certainly improved at us a lot which is down to the manager and his staff moving him from CH to Midfield. I suppose one thing we have in our favour is he knows there is a manager that believes in him and he will be one of the first names on the team sheet , wither that’s enough to persuade him to come back if a deal could be struck with Sunderland , who knows.

I think some of the comments on the Sunderland forum are generally what most fans of English clubs have as an opinion of our league in it’s not very good , pub league etc ..

I think this is a bit arrogant and shows the lack of knowledge a lot have about our league , yes they have more money and probably better quality but our league is really competitive and has its own qualities as we have seen in how many good players it’s produced over the years.

Personally read a few pages and thought in the main the majority analysis was pretty fair

[Wilson]

It’s not often we agree but we do here 👍

He's talking rubbish though which is maybe the connection? I'd take Nisbet's inconsistent goals per minutes ratio over the poorer return of a Ronan Hale. I know Ross County are poor but tgen so are Aberdeen.

[easty]

There’s two players we had before that a few have mentioned it would be good to get back . One is Porto and the other Nisbet , both are undoubtedly good players though I do question both players character and attitude after their last spell here . I just don’t see either of them as the right type of character the club have openly spoken about in what they want in players they sign . Maybe I’m alone on this but in both cases I hope we look elsewhere.

They both did well enough at Hibs to get moves to the Championship, and Nisbet did pretty well at Aberdeen last season too, leaving with a Scottish cup winners medal, and scoring 14 goals. Goals > character for me.

[Wilson]

I really can't see Porteous coming back. Gray played with him enough to know he can't be trusted. Stupid bookings, failure to take the blame for mistakes. Completely goes against the team spirit the current squad have developed over the season.

If that is true then it won't happen. If it's a perception and not exactly true, then it might.

[easty]

Not just you, I wouldn’t be in a hurry to see either of them back.

Think Porteous is wildly overrated and isn’t worth all the other crap that comes along with him. Nisbet is wildly inconsistent.

We can get better than both imo.

For us, only Boyle scored more than Nisbet last season. Nisbet got twice as many as any other Hibs player.

For Hibs - 39 in 101 appearances.

How consistent are you looking for if this is wildy inconsistent?

[Donegal Hibby]

That is the thing though. Gray knows them. If he thinks they'd be a fit then they will, and we can all park that attitude nonsense and let Gray get on with getting the best out of them.

If Gray were to resign both them then I agree we should let him get on with trying to get the best out of them . I think because Gray does know them he’ll probably / hopefully look elsewhere.

On the bad run we had when it looked like Gray was going to get the chop everyone was pulling in the right direction , backing one another and showing good character and togetherness .

Imagine having them two in the squad around that time .. one would be shouting/ blaming other players never mind the rash tackles in giving away penalties , red cards while the other would probably end up sulking around in looking for a move elsewhere.

Honestly think we have good thing going in this squad that I’d hate to see disrupted by two players who are more than capable of doing so .

[Paulie Walnuts]

For us, only Boyle scored more than Nisbet last season. Nisbet got twice as many as any other Hibs player.

For Hibs - 39 in 101 appearances.

How consistent are you looking for if this is wildy inconsistent?

That’s not what consistency is though, is it?

He’d go on great runs of form. For example he scored 10 in his first 19 league appearances for Hibs and 12 in his final 19. He’d also go on crap runs of form though, such as when scored 1 in 13 in his first season, or when he scored 5 in 26 in his entire second season.

At Aberdeen this season he scored 3 in his first 7, then he went on to score 1 in 12 (with a couple of games where he was unable to even get off the bench in that 12 he had been so poor). Then he scored 5 in 6.

His overall record was decent and if you get the best of him then you’re laughing. If you get the worst of him though, which you are probably just as likely to get as you are to get the best of him though then you’ll be toiling.

[MacGruber]

There’s two players we had before that a few have mentioned it would be good to get back . One is Porto and the other Nisbet , both are undoubtedly good players though I do question both players character and attitude after their last spell here . I just don’t see either of them as the right type of character the club have openly spoken about in what they want in players they sign . Maybe I’m alone on this but in both cases I hope we look elsewhere.

On the flip side Liam Henderson being the other one mentioned in dispatches has the ideal character and attitude. I can't see any of them coming back though, all on Championship level wages now

[easty]

That’s not what consistency is though, is it?

He’d go on great runs of form. For example he scored 10 in his first 19 league appearances for Hibs and 12 in his final 19. He’d also go on crap runs of form though, such as when scored 1 in 13 in his first season, or when he scored 5 in 26 in his entire second season.

His overall record was decent and if you get the best of him then you’re laughing. If you get the worst of him though, which you are probably just as likely to get as you are to get the best of him though then you’ll be toiling.

So you'd be happier with someone who scores you less goals, but does it consistently?

Folk saying Ronan Hale would be good, but I assume you'd disagree because in the middle of the season he went 15 games with only 1 goal?

Simon Murray had a good season, but went spells of 1 goal in 9 and 2 spells of 1 goal in 7 games.

[Donegal Hibby]

That’s not what consistency is though, is it?

He’d go on great runs of form. For example he scored 10 in his first 19 league appearances for Hibs and 12 in his final 19. He’d also go on crap runs of form though, such as when scored 1 in 13 in his first season, or when he scored 5 in 26 in his entire second season.

At Aberdeen this season he scored 3 in his first 7, then he went on to score 1 in 12 (with a couple of games where he was unable to even get off the bench in that 12 he had been so poor). Then he scored 5 in 6.

His overall record was decent and if you get the best of him then you’re laughing. If you get the worst of him though, which you are probably just as likely to get as you are to get the best of him though then you’ll be toiling.

His career since being at Hibs is massively in

If you get the best of him you are laughing but that’s a big ‘If ‘ much like it is with Porto too . Is it worth gambling with the harmony and togetherness that we have in this squad now ? . I’m not sure it is ….

https://millwallonline.com/forum/threads/nisbet-could-return.56731/page-8

[chippy]

There’s two players we had before that a few have mentioned it would be good to get back . One is Porto and the other Nisbet , both are undoubtedly good players though I do question both players character and attitude after their last spell here . I just don’t see either of them as the right type of character the club have openly spoken about in what they want in players they sign . Maybe I’m alone on this but in both cases I hope we look elsewhere.
What’s wrong with Porto’s attitude or character. Hibee , classy, Scotland squad and knows the league?

[easty]

If you get the best of him you are laughable but that’s a big ‘If ‘ much like it is with Porto too . Is it worth gambling with the harmony and togetherness that we have in this squad now ? . I’m not sure it is ….

https://millwallonline.com/forum/threads/nisbet-could-return.56731/page-8

Is it?

He managed to do well enough at Dunfermline that we paid for him, then well enough at Hibs that Millwall paid for him. It's not worked out for him there, but that's because he's not at that standard of footballer. Comes back to Scotland and has a good season at Aberdeen.

So how exactly is it a big 'if'?

I don't really think Millwall fans opinions of him are that relevant to be honest. They're unlikely to think highly of him as he's never been good enough to play for them. It'd be the same as Hibs fans opinions on someone like Melkerson.

[keep the faith]

There’s two players we had before that a few have mentioned it would be good to get back . One is Porto and the other Nisbet , both are undoubtedly good players though I do question both players character and attitude after their last spell here . I just don’t see either of them as the right type of character the club have openly spoken about in what they want in players they sign . Maybe I’m alone on this but in both cases I hope we look elsewhere.

Not just you. Both would be at the bottom of my list of summer signings.
The team dynamic is just so good right now. For me, we protect that above all else.

[Paulie Walnuts]

So you'd be happier with someone who scores you less goals, but does it consistently?

Folk saying Ronan Hale would be good, but I assume you'd disagree because in the middle of the season he went 15 games with only 1 goal?

Simon Murray had a good season, but went spells of 1 goal in 9 and 2 spells of 1 goal in 7 games.

I never mentioned less goals. I don’t think he’ll be anywhere close to being the best available to us. I think we’ll be able to get a more consistent player who can score more goals.

And yes, I wouldn’t be all that bothered either way for Hale either.

[Frazerbob]

Nisbet won Aberdeen's Player's POTY award. Bad attitudes don't win that award.

[MikeyS]

There’s two players we had before that a few have mentioned it would be good to get back . One is Porto and the other Nisbet , both are undoubtedly good players though I do question both players character and attitude after their last spell here . I just don’t see either of them as the right type of character the club have openly spoken about in what they want in players they sign . Maybe I’m alone on this but in both cases I hope we look elsewhere.

Yeah, we all heard you the 30th time you brought this up!

Do you have an alarm set for when their names are mentioned as you always seem right at the front of the queue to question their character but dont seem so quick to offer up what exactly these bad traits are?

[Tambo]

Not that i think it would happen, Hendo coming back would be very exciting signing, Nisbet if available i would welcome back to Easter Road but who ever we do sign i hope will pass the big character test before hand.

[aberhibsfc]

I know I was tired before heading to bed last night, but I could have sworn I read a tweet saying Hibs had resigned Porteous on a 4 year deal.

Maybe I'm imagining, dreamt, or someone put out a joke tweet. Anyway, would be nice if it became a reality. But I'd still want Bushiri to stay, however the longer that goes, the less likely I think it will happen.

[Donegal Hibby]

Not just you. Both would be at the bottom of my list of summer signings.
The team dynamic is just so good right now. For me, we protect that above all else.

Absolutely , taking in good quality players is important but so is adding the right types of characters to our squad and not taking any chances with players who could potentially unsettle / disrupt what this squad has shown it has in spades.

[Unseen work]

I know I was tired before heading to bed last night, but I could have sworn I read a tweet saying Hibs had resigned Porteous on a 4 year deal.

Maybe I'm imagining, dreamt, or someone put out a joke tweet. Anyway, would be nice if it became a reality. But I'd still want Bushiri to stay, however the longer that goes, the less likely I think it will happen.

Some weirdo made up a Twitter page called ‘HiberniianFC’ or similar and are now pretending to be Hibs.

They posted about Porteous and Triantis both signing for us

[chippy]

There’s two players we had before that a few have mentioned it would be good to get back . One is Porto and the other Nisbet , both are undoubtedly good players though I do question both players character and attitude after their last spell here . I just don’t see either of them as the right type of character the club have openly spoken about in what they want in players they sign . Maybe I’m alone on this but in both cases I hope we look elsewhere.
What’s wrong with Porto’s attitude or character. Hibee , classy, Scotland squad and knows the league?

[chippy]

Some weirdo made up a Twitter page called ‘HiberniianFC’ or similar and are now pretending to be Hibs.

They posted about Porteous and Triantis both signing for us

Yeah saw that and the eejits. responsible needs outed

[Nicho87]

Said it before I’ll say it again.

I think we’re doing just fine without porteous

Wish him well but I don’t think we would want some of the baggage that maybe comes with porteous

[Donegal Hibby]

Yeah, we all heard you the 30th time you brought this up!

Do you have an alarm set for when their names are mentioned as you always seem right at the front of the queue to question their character but dont seem so quick to offer up what exactly these bad traits are?

Both as I said are undoubtedly good players and I have mentioned why I’d have concerns about both of them coming back as others have . I thought maybe you’d have picked up on these after 30 times or seen some of the other poster’s replies , apparently not though 😉.

[greenpaper55]

What’s wrong with Porto’s attitude or character. Hibee , classy, Scotland squad and knows the league?

But he is a bomb scare and thats why no other team is interested in him.

[Ray_]

That’s not what consistency is though, is it?

He’d go on great runs of form. For example he scored 10 in his first 19 league appearances for Hibs and 12 in his final 19. He’d also go on crap runs of form though, such as when scored 1 in 13 in his first season, or when he scored 5 in 26 in his entire second season.

At Aberdeen this season he scored 3 in his first 7, then he went on to score 1 in 12 (with a couple of games where he was unable to even get off the bench in that 12 he had been so poor). Then he scored 5 in 6.

His overall record was decent and if you get the best of him then you’re laughing. If you get the worst of him though, which you are probably just as likely to get as you are to get the best of him though then you’ll be toiling.

Given Aberdeen's dramatic fall in the league, it's not surprising that their main forward's goal tally took a massive hit.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Given Aberdeen's dramatic fall in the league, it's not surprising that their main forward's goal tally took a massive hit.

It’s happened ever since he arrived at Hibs though. It’s just part of what you get with Nisbet.

[Hibernian Verse]

But he is a bomb scare and thats why no other team is interested in him.

Yes no other team would sign him. None. At all. Ever.

Absolute nonsense.

[Springbank]

Is it?


I don't really think Millwall fans opinions of him are that relevant to be honest. They're unlikely to think highly of him as he's never been good enough to play for them. It'd be the same as Hibs fans opinions on someone like Melkerson.

Actually not sure I agree with that (and for various reasons I saw quite a few games Nisbet played for Millwall)

You could make a case that he thought he was better than his team mates, and there were more than a few occasions where he'd take the ball in, turn to face goal, and slide a beautiful ball for the onrushing winger (the classic Boyle at Hampden pass)

Only, the Millwall wingers didn't have the pace, or, it seemed, the ability to read the pass, and Nisbet doesn't help himself in these situations by looking absolutely furious at the team mate who didn't read the game.

There is a part of me that thinks Alex Neil might just give him a chance again at Millwall this summer before deciding to sell or keep

[Lago]

Where has all this Porteous chat come from? I've seen nothing that says Hibs are interested in him or for that matter he's interested in Hibs. :confused:

[Paul1642]

Where has all this Porteous chat come from? I've seen nothing that says Hibs are interested in him or for that matter he's interested in Hibs. :confused:

There was chat around the time of the AGM about a former player returning and the rumour took off from there.

[blackpoolhibs]

Nisbet and Porteous would be great signings for us, both would help us get stronger and give us a good chance of making 3rd again.

[timewilltell]

I'd be concerned that Nisbet's attitude would disrupt the dressing room and put at risk a team that is clearly 'together'.

[aberhibsfc]

Some weirdo made up a Twitter page called ‘HiberniianFC’ or similar and are now pretending to be Hibs.

They posted about Porteous and Triantis both signing for us

Glad I didn't imagine it, but annoyed that my sleepy self hadn't identified as a spoof.

What some folk will do for attention.

[CapitalGreen]

I'd be concerned that Nisbet's attitude would disrupt the dressing room and put at risk a team that is clearly 'together'.

Wish it had disrupted Aberdeen’s to stop them winning the Scottish Cup.

[Hibiza]

There’s two players we had before that a few have mentioned it would be good to get back . One is Porto and the other Nisbet , both are undoubtedly good players though I do question both players character and attitude after their last spell here . I just don’t see either of them as the right type of character the club have openly spoken about in what they want in players they sign . Maybe I’m alone on this but in both cases I hope we look elsewhere.

Spot on .

[Lago]

There was chat around the time of the AGM about a former play resigning and the rumour took off from there.
Oh OK, so really nothing to it.

[Unseen work]

Boyle absolutely loves Porteous

For that reason I think he must be a good character and person to have about the place

[HoboHarry]

Boyle absolutely loves Porteous

For that reason I think he must be a good character and person to have about the place
Not doubting you at all but where did you get that from? Great if true....

[AlbertK86]

Yes no other team would sign him. None. At all. Ever.

Absolute nonsense.

Well said


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[leith lynx]

There was chat around the time of the AGM about a former play resigning and the rumour took off from there.

What I gathered from the AGM was that Malky McKay indicated that the player would be an out of contract at season end i.e. Boyle and Rocky.

[Paul1642]

Oh OK, so really nothing to it.

Quite possibly. Also glad you managed to get my meaning despite typos 😂

[jeffers]

Not doubting you at all but where did you get that from? Great if true....

It was pretty common knowledge that the two of them were really pally.

[B.H.F.C]

Think some folk are getting carried away with the whole team spirit and character thing. Aye it’s important but it also came about through winning. When you win and get that momentum, everything is better, everyone is happier and so on. When we were getting hammered up at Dens last November nobody was pointing out that the all looked together, had a good spirit and were good characters.

If the team spirit really is good, which it appears to be at the moment, they’ll deal with anyone that steps out of line themselves. If you sign good players, the only folk not happy will be the ones who lose their place. The rest will get on with things because that’s the way football is.

[HoboHarry]

It was pretty common knowledge that the two of them were really pally.
:aok:

[jacomo]

So you'd be happier with someone who scores you less goals, but does it consistently?

Folk saying Ronan Hale would be good, but I assume you'd disagree because in the middle of the season he went 15 games with only 1 goal?

Simon Murray had a good season, but went spells of 1 goal in 9 and 2 spells of 1 goal in 7 games.


Yes, it's a fair point.

Nisbet has a habit of going on a barren run, which gives the manager a dilemma - keep picking him in the hope he regains form, or drop him? He never looked like a guy who'd give his best from the bench, and accept being dropped for the benefit of the team.

[1875Sean]

Could we move Porteous into midfield?

We already tried that and it didn’t work

[Donegal Hibby]

Livi signing…

https://x.com/LiviFCOfficial/status/1932030041619095916

[Ship of Hope]

He was absolutely honking there when we tried it.

I liked him when he played there. Thought his athleticism was what we needed at the time. Think he scored a couple of goals also. Why do you feel he was honking?

[superfurryhibby]

What I gathered from the AGM was that Malky McKay indicated that the player would be an out of contract at season end i.e. Boyle and Rocky.

Liam Henderson, Stephen Fletcher or Fraser Murray fit that description.

[AlbertK86]

Liam Henderson, Stephen Fletcher or Fraser Murray fit that description.

Murray just signed for Wigan


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[JohnM1875]

I liked him when he played there. Thought his athleticism was what we needed at the time. Think he scored a couple of goals also. Why do you feel he was honking?

He scored against the Huns aye. But I thought he was terrible in defensive midfield. Weirdly for the reason you liked him, I think he lacks athleticism and isn’t good enough at moving with the ball in tight spaces.

Think there’s a reason he’s never played there since leaving us.