Gray is out of his depth’

[Docker]

O’Hora needed taken off. He’s been ***** for weeks.

Drop him for next week then…….but what positive influence to yesterdays game do you think swapping a like for like CH was going to make to the way yesterdays game was going to play out?
Waste of time……we needed a positive tactical change and didn’t have a coaching team capable to do it.

[JohnM1875]

Drop him for next week then…….but what positive influence to yesterdays game do you think swapping a like for like CH was going to make to the way yesterdays game was going to play out?
Waste of time……we needed a positive tactical change and didn’t have a coaching team capable to do it.

To stop him ****ing up again and the opposition targeting him? Like I said, he's been awful for weeks. The sub wasn't the poor coaching for me, starting him was.

[McD]

Don't think sacking him will change much to be honest. The squad is clearly limited in ability and big changes are needed in January. I would personally give Gray the time to further put his stamp on things.

Another sacking in such a short space of time just continues the trend and in my opinion vastly reduces the appeal of the job, and then subsequently the type of candidate who would be interested.

I think the mindset at the club needs to change this season to solely focusing on 10th place. As dire as that sounds any idea of us pushing up the table simply isn't going to come to fruition. We need to focus on St Johnstone, Hearts and Ross County, the three other poor sides in the league. That is all that matters just now.

Frustrating to write off yet another season, but stay in the league, ship out dross in January, replace with better prospects and use the 2nd half of the season to build towards next with a certain degree of continuity.


Gray has done nothing to suggest he can turn this around. He’s talked about setting standards, non negotiables, adapting to fit the team we’re playing. None of that has come to pass. It’s a shambles, he needs to go

[mcohibs]

First, they are incompetent. To a dizzying degree.

And second, they have received so much criticism for sacking so many managers that I fear they will stick with Gray until it's too late.

That’s been my fear since he got the job. They’ve made such a James blunt of our previous appointments that they’ll put off the inevitable sacking so as to not admit yet ANOTHER failure. Dangerous game because delaying that decision could see us playing football in the championship next season.

[Bobby's Cinema]

That’s been my fear since he got the job. They’ve made such a James blunt of our previous appointments that they’ll put off the inevitable sacking so as to not admit yet ANOTHER failure. Dangerous game because delaying that decision could see us playing football in the championship next season.
Yep that's where we are right now.

[GreenGray]

Stephen Robinson said after the match that Easter Road is a good place to come and play football.

That worries me. I am sure other managers have said similar in the past.

For too long teams have known that they can come to Easter Road and get a result because we’re a soft touch basically.

That needs to change, ASAP.


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[WhileTheChief..]

O’Hora needed taken off. He’s been ***** for weeks.

I assumed he was injured.

If we was taken off cause he was playing crap, then bringing Bushiri was never going to help.

Gray presumably thinks O'Hara is the better player, or Bushiri would've started ahead of him. To sub him off cause he made a mistake is crap management. Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face..

You don't improve your chances of getting a result by bringing on players like Bushiri. That should be obvious to Gray by now.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Wouldn’t it be better to merge the SDG threads? It saves repeating oneself.

[Steve Austin]

That’s been my fear since he got the job. They’ve made such a James blunt of our previous appointments that they’ll put off the inevitable sacking so as to not admit yet ANOTHER failure. Dangerous game because delaying that decision could see us playing football in the championship next season.



https://medium.com/@robertsriley18/eirik-horneland-the-most-exciting-manager-youve-never-heard-of-22c38a51d842

[chrisski33]

https://medium.com/@robertsriley18/eirik-horneland-the-most-exciting-manager-youve-never-heard-of-22c38a51d842

Has Steve Clarke =4 😭😂

[Waxy]

Wouldn’t it be better to merge the SDG threads? It saves repeating oneself.

Agree and just call the thread David Gray instead of this.

[easty]

Spot on it was pathetic.

Terrible man management and complete desperation.

Also relying on two players who he has treated disgracefully.

How has he treated them disgracefully?

Have I missed something?

They’ve both been out of the team because they were ***** when they were in the team.

[He's here!]

Stephen Robinson said after the match that Easter Road is a good place to come and play football.

That worries me. I am sure other managers have said similar in the past.

For too long teams have known that they can come to Easter Road and get a result because we’re a soft touch basically.

That needs to change, ASAP.


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There's zero evidence to suggest it will change.

[AdidasHibernian]

Is he no away yet!?

Can take his pals that make up our shambolic coaching staff as well.

[Not In The Know]

Spot on it was pathetic.

Terrible man management and complete desperation.

Also relying on two players who he has treated disgracefully.

yeah I said at the time that’s him thrown under the bus.
But he’s been crap and his effort to make up the mistake he made was probably the reason he was subbed. Ran at half pace.

[Ozyhibby]

Not sacking Gray tomorrow would be criminal.
Right now, the fans know he has to go but he goes with everyone best wishes for his years of service. If he doesn’t go tomorrow then his relationship with the fans will deteriorate as the weeks go by and results get worse. He will end up hated by sections of the support. That would be a great shame for all concerned.


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[Donegal Hibby]

Not sacking Gray tomorrow would be criminal.
Right now, the fans know he has to go but he goes with everyone best wishes for his years of service. If he doesn’t go tomorrow then his relationship with the fans will deteriorate as the weeks go by and results get worse. He will end up hated by sections of the support. That would be a great shame for all concerned.


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I suppose everyone’s different though I will never hate SDG .

[hibeerealist]

Not sacking Gray tomorrow would be criminal.
Right now, the fans know he has to go but he goes with everyone best wishes for his years of service. If he doesn’t go tomorrow then his relationship with the fans will deteriorate as the weeks go by and results get worse. He will end up hated by sections of the support. That would be a great shame for all concerned.


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He won't ne hated just lose a lot of respect that the fans have for him

[HoboHarry]

Not sacking Gray tomorrow would be criminal.
Right now, the fans know he has to go but he goes with everyone best wishes for his years of service. If he doesn’t go tomorrow then his relationship with the fans will deteriorate as the weeks go by and results get worse. He will end up hated by sections of the support. That would be a great shame for all concerned.


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Rubbish. Even the hard of thinking know he's been hung out to dry by the way our club is currently being run.

[Murphys Touch]

It’s just like McCoist at Rangers - the fans really turned on him as manager and someone who took money out the club.

Took a few years to settle but his attitude to Rangers in the main means it was water under a bridge.

It will be like that for us…got to hope the toxicity doesn’t last too long to impact Gray.

[He's here!]

Not sacking Gray tomorrow would be criminal.
Right now, the fans know he has to go but he goes with everyone best wishes for his years of service. If he doesn’t go tomorrow then his relationship with the fans will deteriorate as the weeks go by and results get worse. He will end up hated by sections of the support. That would be a great shame for all concerned.


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He'll never be hated. No bona fide Hibs fan could ever have anything but goodwill towards him. Similar to Stanton and Sauzee, who didn't succeed as managers (albeit Stanton was hamstrung by the club being near penniless).

I feel for the guy. Desperate to do well but yesterday felt like a fatal blow. By taking the Hibs job and failing at it also makes his hopes of a football-related job anywhere else exceedingly slim.

[Waxy]

He won't ne hated just lose a lot of respect that the fans have for him

Not even that.
It’s simply that he’s a rookie manager and the job is too big for him at the moment.
Even experienced managers have wilted recently at Hibs under the current people and circumstamces so there’s no shame.
He wont lose an ounce of respect from me.
At least he’s stepped up and tried so even more respect for that.

[JohnM1875]

He'll never be hated. No bona fide Hibs fan could ever have anything but goodwill towards him. Similar to Stanton and Sauzee, who didn't succeed as managers (albeit Stanton was hamstrung by the club being near penniless).

I feel for the guy. Desperate to do well but yesterday felt like a fatal blow. By taking the Hibs job and failing at it also makes his hopes of a football-related job anywhere else exceedingly slim.

Don't think that's true at all.

There's already plenty folk talking about 'if he didn't score that goal no one would care about him' so the longer he stays the worse it could get I reckon.

[Waxy]

Don't think that's true at all.

There's already plenty folk talking about 'if he didn't score that goal no one would care about him' so the longer he stays the worse it could get I reckon.

So what tour saying is no one gets credit for anything they do for a club?
That’ll make players try really hard in future huh?

[JohnM1875]

So what tour saying is no one gets credit for anything they do for a club?
That’ll make players try really hard in future huh?

It's not what I'm saying, no. I said I've heard plenty folk saying it. Said from the start my love for SDG won't change even if he fails as manager.

[andrew_dundee]

Seeing some folk saying Gray has been 'hung out to dry' but I don't think that's fair. He was backed with money but it was spent on mediocre players. The reason we are bottom of the league is because, as much as I like SDG, he's not a very good or experienced manager and is learning too much on the job. They've stood by him despite honking results, so not sure they can be accused of not supporting him.

He clearly should not have been appointed in the first place, but TBF there were also a lot of fans who wanted him to be and it was probably inevitable as soon as Monty was gone.

[Waxy]

Seeing some folk saying Gray has been 'hung out to dry' but I don't think that's fair. He was backed with money but it was spent on mediocre players. The reason we are bottom of the league is because, as much as I like SDG, he's not a very good or experienced manager and is learning too much on the job. They've stood by him despite honking results, so not sure they can be accused of not supporting him.

He clearly should not have been appointed in the first place, but TBF there were also a lot of fans who wanted him to be and it was probably inevitable as soon as Monty was gone.
We are also bottom because of honking refereeing decisions.
This cant be overlooked.

[He's here!]

Don't think that's true at all.

There's already plenty folk talking about 'if he didn't score that goal no one would care about him' so the longer he stays the worse it could get I reckon.

Anyone saying that (and I must have missed seeing anyone who said it on here) can't possibly be a Hibs supporter. It was the single most important goal any of us are likely to see scored for Hibs. We should be forever thankful to him no matter what happens to him as manager.

[Northernhibee]

Anyone saying that (and I must have missed seeing anyone who said it on here) can't possibly be a Hibs supporter. It was the single most important goal any of us are likely to see scored for Hibs. We should be forever thankful to him no matter what happens to him as manager.

He was also an exceptional captain.

[Unseen work]

Seeing some folk saying Gray has been 'hung out to dry' but I don't think that's fair. He was backed with money but it was spent on mediocre players. The reason we are bottom of the league is because, as much as I like SDG, he's not a very good or experienced manager and is learning too much on the job. They've stood by him despite honking results, so not sure they can be accused of not supporting him.

He clearly should not have been appointed in the first place, but TBF there were also a lot of fans who wanted him to be and it was probably inevitable as soon as Monty was gone.

He should never have got the job or even been considered for it.

I found it odd when he said that if he never got it then he would have had to considered moving on for an opportunity.

He’d been a first team coach for what 4 seasons? Having immediately came off the back of being a player and is still only 36 now.

He had no right to think he deserved the chance as full time manager because he done not bad as interim manager over 4 separate occasions for a combined what? 10-12 games?

If he was to have left us he wouldn’t have got anywhere near a club our size as manager, he’s not even fully qualified.

He’s been here through it all and that’s not me blaming him, but he’s seen exactly what the club is like so there was no surprises.

He got the job he wanted and has failed.

It’s harsh, but it’s what’s happened.

I’ll always love SDG for his time at Hibs but I don’t think he’s been hung out to try whatsoever. What did we sign 12 players in the summer? A couple who he knew from before.

Turned his nose up at an experienced player in Innocent Bonke from Lorient in favour of Triantis

[chrisski33]

We are also bottom because of honking refereeing decisions.
This cant be overlooked.

Aye lets use poor refereeing as a smoke screen for poor tactics, subs, players etc

[1875Sean]

Everyone knows the players are not good enough but the big difference for me this season is the lack of discipline, stupid red cards then seeing the likes of youan putting up disrespectful posts then him and JHD arguing with fans on Sat, strong leadership wouldn’t let them get away with it

[JimBHibees]

I assumed he was injured.

If we was taken off cause he was playing crap, then bringing Bushiri was never going to help.

Gray presumably thinks O'Hara is the better player, or Bushiri would've started ahead of him. To sub him off cause he made a mistake is crap management. Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face..

You don't improve your chances of getting a result by bringing on players like Bushiri. That should be obvious to Gray by now.

Rocky played much better

[Murphys Touch]

Everyone knows the players are not good enough but the big difference for me this season is the lack of discipline, stupid red cards then seeing the likes of youan putting up disrespectful posts then him and JHD arguing with fans on Sat, strong leadership wouldn’t let them get away with it

Screams relegation

[Cabbage-Patch]

Do I feel a bit sorry for Gray? Yes...do I think he's been "hung out to dry?" No. He's a big boy and put himself forward for the job and backed himself despite having never been a manager. I feel sorry for him because the board appointed him as a cheap option and probably had a feeling it could go Pete Tong.

He should have probably been emptied along with Johnson and the rest of his coaching staff but managed to not only stick around for Monty in the same role but then see him off and get the main job himself.

He will be sacked tomorrow and all will quicky be forgiven in his respect by the fans. He should aim for a lower league job and cut this teeth at that level initially.

[sauzeelegod]

https://medium.com/@robertsriley18/eirik-horneland-the-most-exciting-manager-youve-never-heard-of-22c38a51d842

I mentioned his name a few days ago.

Something you’ve heard?

[Since90+2]

I mentioned his name a few days ago.

Something you’ve heard?

I doubt he'd be interested in moving to the team bottom of the Scottish league if he's that highly rated tbh. You'd imagine he'll have far more attractive offers.

[Steve Austin]

I mentioned his name a few days ago.

Something you’ve heard?


I think we should be looking at this Scandinavian market and something different…new ideas ..
He is highly rated and by sources over there would look at a new challenge?

[McGruber]

Do we not tend to make the announcements on a Tuesday? Maybe that's when the Board meet - or maybe making it up 😂
Convinced they will pull the trigger this week

[He's here!]

Do we not tend to make the announcements on a Tuesday? Maybe that's when the Board meet - or maybe making it up 😂
Convinced they will pull the trigger this week

If he's not sacked today it means he's staying put IMO.

The latest international break (we seem to have one every couple of weeks these days?!) is the obvious time to make headway in finding our sixth manager in less than four years so I doubt they'd keep him hanging on and taking training until Tuesday.

[GreenCastle]

Everyone knows the players are not good enough but the big difference for me this season is the lack of discipline, stupid red cards then seeing the likes of youan putting up disrespectful posts then him and JHD arguing with fans on Sat, strong leadership wouldn’t let them get away with it

100% but standards have been slipping throughout the club last few years.

Think it starts from the top and proper leadership.

The hospitality seems to be going well at moment though so seems they have good standards there.

If we actually had some discipline on first team side we wouldn’t have all these incidents.

Red card club…

Obita - win that Killie game - 3 points
Newell - win or draw that Utd game - 3 points or 1 point
Myko - win that Utd game - 3 points

Add in the weekly arguments with fans at Easter Road with some players and players posting stuff on social media - surely there is a code of conduct at the club??

[Steve Austin]

If he's not sacked today it means he's staying put IMO.

The latest international break (we seem to have one every couple of weeks these days?!) is the obvious time to make headway in finding our sixth manager in less than four years so I doubt they'd keep him hanging on and taking training until Tuesday.


It would be a dereliction of duty by the people running the club to let this continue?
we have zero playing style,one paced ,defensive shambles,a goalkeeper who anyone can see is not ready as a first choice keeper.
bottom of the spl ,clubs with way less budgets way ahead of us ,Aberdeen miles ahead ,like streets ahead .
Aberdeen did due diligence on a manager this time and look to have got it spot on ? Why can’t we .
We are an embarrassment at the moment,something is very very wrong at HIBS ..

[Springbank]

You'd take Simon Murray over Elie Youan every day of the week.

Youan - with the atrocious attitude - is never a professional footballer.

He's a guy who knocks a 5 yard pass out of play then argues with fans?

Give me Simon Murray any day over that, please

[greenpaper55]

Maybe we should remember there is a human cost when we change managers, back room staff and assistants all get the heave and they all have families and mortgages just like the rest of us, imagine how they feel right now with the likes of this place baying for blood ? Think i will wind it down.

[Ozyhibby]

Maybe we should remember there is a human cost when we change managers, back room staff and assistants all get the heave and they all have families and mortgages just like the rest of us, imagine how they feel right now with the likes of this place baying for blood ? Think i will wind it down.

Think of the people who will lose their jobs if we are relegated.


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[Winston Ingram]

Maybe we should remember there is a human cost when we change managers, back room staff and assistants all get the heave and they all have families and mortgages just like the rest of us, imagine how they feel right now with the likes of this place baying for blood ? Think i will wind it down.

The human cost will be far greater if we stick with him and inevitably go down.

[GreenCastle]

Maybe we should remember there is a human cost when we change managers, back room staff and assistants all get the heave and they all have families and mortgages just like the rest of us, imagine how they feel right now with the likes of this place baying for blood ? Think i will wind it down.

What about the fans who spend hundreds on season tickets / travel / food / merchandise at games and have seen 1 away win 2024 and only 1 league home win this season.

Plenty of fans have mortgages etc and spend way too much money on Hibs to get nothing back recently and that’s not just last few weeks.

Club needs to reevaluate how it operates and how it treats its customers as the staff should be luckily they are actually get paid to under perform so poorly when fans are losing money weekly with no return.

[WestStandWillie]

Maybe we should remember there is a human cost when we change managers, back room staff and assistants all get the heave and they all have families and mortgages just like the rest of us, imagine how they feel right now with the likes of this place baying for blood ? Think i will wind it down.

Don't get involved in football then. The risk involved in being a player or manager is massive. We have a number of players out of contract at the end of the season and they've shown they aren't deserving of a new deal.

Then we have players who were given longer deals who have got their pipe and slippers on. Kenneh and McKirdy are happy to sit in the stands and collect a nice wage.

I believe Luke Amos has been told by Gray that he doesn't fit into the system which is baffling to say the least.

[Green-Hibee-7]

I will always be grateful that he got his napper on that cross in 2016, but he needs to be removed from the post. He has been here long enough as a coach and player that 1 win in 12 is not acceptable.

[FastEddieFelson]

Don't think he's the man for the job but can't see him being sacked unless there is a plan for his replacement, which I don't think there is.

Does anyone honestly think an interim manager would be able to unite this squad?

[He's here!]

I will always be grateful that he got his napper on that cross in 2016, but he needs to be removed from the post. He has been here long enough as a coach and player that 1 win in 12 is not acceptable.

Another crazily dismissive reference to what that goal meant to Hibs. It was truly monumental and will remain etched in my memory for the rest of my days. There's no question it makes most Hibs fans want to see David Gray succeed more than any recent manager and it's why there's more emotional baggage attached to sacking him than just seeing him as another item on the managerial conveyor belt.

I get as worked up as anyone by the pitiful state of of our club but it doesn't remove all sentiment from being a lifelong fan.

[JohnM1875]

Don't think he's the man for the job but can't see him being sacked unless there is a plan for his replacement, which I don't think there is.

Does anyone honestly think an interim manager would be able to unite this squad?

Our next game isn’t until the 23rd. So an interim would take charge of a game or two at most.

If Gray stays we’re going down. It’s a **** situation, but he needs to go.

[Callum_62]

I believe Luke Amos has been told by Gray that he doesn't fit into the system which is baffling to say the least.

Probably appear out of nowhere at Dundee and get chucked on with 30 mins left to try and salvage something

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[sauzeelegod]

I think we should be looking at this Scandinavian market and something different…new ideas ..
He is highly rated and by sources over there would look at a new challenge?

Yeah I agree.
I would be happy with him

[bingo70]

Probably appear out of nowhere at Dundee and get chucked on with 30 mins left to try and salvage something

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And then written off if he doesn’t make an impact.

[Docker]

Don't think he's the man for the job but can't see him being sacked unless there is a plan for his replacement, which I don't think there is.

Does anyone honestly think an interim manager would be able to unite this squad?

Could SDG remain in post but a new “senior assistant” from elsewhere in the BK Group be appointed with a clear instruction on style of play and game plan? It might even help SDG learn on the job.
In any other business, a boss can determine what you do and how you do it and unless it’s illegal or unethical, you’re pretty much expected to get on with it.
If SDG doesn’t like it he could choose to leave.

[Callum_62]

Could SDG remain in post but a new “senior assistant” from elsewhere in the BK Group be appointed with a clear instruction on style of play and game plan? It might even help SDG learn on the job.
In any other business, a boss can determine what you do and how you do it and unless it’s illegal or unethical, you’re pretty much expected to get on with it.
If SDG doesn’t like it he could choose to leave.I couldn't imagine any self respecting in post manager accepting that

I wouldn't want that as a fan either

We would basically be saying - you've been one of the worst managers we've ever hired....but here's a old guy to sort of the mess you've made while you do some training

Not for me

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[Unseen work]

Can’t believe he’s still here.

Would have thought if he was getting sacked it would have been announced by now.

Madness

[Basildon Hibs]

Can’t believe he’s still here.

Would have thought if he was getting sacked it would have been announced by now.

Madness

Why is Gray still here?

Surely he should've been launched this morning !!

Unbelievable.

[expresso]

Hopefully a number getting ‘launched’ this morning maybe that’s the reason for a delay?

[04Sauzee]

Can’t believe he’s still here.

Would have thought if he was getting sacked it would have been announced by now.

Madness
Is it they sometimes they are working out the financials with him to go? Maybe he's been relieved of his duties but can't announce it yet?

Maybe he's going nowhere ?

[Hamish]

Can’t believe he’s still here.

Would have thought if he was getting sacked it would have been announced by now.

Madness

Probably as others point out financial details being organised

Average White Band

[B.H.F.C]

Is it they sometimes they are working out the financials with him to go? Maybe he's been relieved of his duties but can't announce it yet?

Maybe he's going nowhere ?

I still think it’s the latter. I think he’ll be in charge up at Dundee a week on Saturday.

[we are hibs]

Reckon Hibs will be doing the old "business as usual" routine. Later today they'll start posting on social media again about what's happening this week (18s and woman's fixture for the week).

I don't think Gray will be going anywhere. I don't think Kensell will be going anywhere. I don't think McKay will be going anywhere. I don't think the Gordons will be going anywhere.


We are ****ed.

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[Murphys Touch]

Think of the people who will lose their jobs if we are relegated.


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https://www.linkedin.com/company/hibernian-fc/

Have a look at the people tab here. What do all these people do?

[Basildon Hibs]

I still think it’s the latter. I think he’ll be in charge up at Dundee a week on Saturday.

Just kicking the can further down the road, if that's the case.

Gray and others need emptied immediately.

[Heisenberg]

There’s no chance he turns it round from this position. Now is the ideal time to make a change so knowing those in charge at the club they’ll probably hold off and wait till we’re even further behind.

[superfurryhibby]

Gray is not the main problem. The players are mostly rubbish, with a couple of exceptions.

Of course he is trying to juggle and making errors, but deep down it's clear that you can't win with a losing hand. I'm not convinced any new manager can get more from them either.

[Logie]

Gray is not the main problem. The players are mostly rubbish, with a couple of exceptions.

Of course he is trying to juggle and making errors, but deep down it's clear that you can't win with a losing hand. I'm not convinced any new manager can get more from them either.

Not sure this is entirely true tbh. What players have improved under Gray? Basically none. (Marv possibly but was such a low bar to start with) what is grays style of play? We have went backwards under him with no sign of improvement. It’s hardly much to cheer about but at least players were scoring goals under LJ or Monty. Some players were looking good, our whole team looks rotten at the moment. Agreed players are also not good enough but manager has to be able to get some kind of tune out of the squad and so far Gray does not look capable of doing that.

[B.H.F.C]

Just kicking the can further down the road, if that's the case.

Gray and others need emptied immediately.

Agree. We need to act now.

[Unseen work]

Reckon Hibs will be doing the old "business as usual" routine. Later today they'll start posting on social media again about what's happening this week (18s and woman's fixture for the week).

I don't think Gray will be going anywhere. I don't think Kensell will be going anywhere. I don't think McKay will be going anywhere. I don't think the Gordons will be going anywhere.


We are ****ed.

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They’ve just posted the highlights on YouTube

Think you could be right about business as usual…

We had three must win games in a row. County away, United at home and St Mirren at home.

2 points out of 9

Mental

Who knows he might get a point, maybe even 3 against Dundee. But Aberdeen will score about 6 against us and it will be similar to what happened with Goodwin

[SickBoy32]

https://www.linkedin.com/company/hibernian-fc/

Have a look at the people tab here. What do all these people do?

**** only knows. The club is in a serious mess.

The number of ‘non-football’ staff we have just tells you everything about the priorities of the club. £££

Kensell get to **** man , turned us into a soulless corporate entity with awful, overpaid players.

[Wheat Hound]

They’ve just posted the highlights on YouTube

Think you could be right about business as usual…

We had three must win games in a row. County away, United at home and St Mirren at home.

2 points out of 9

Mental

Who knows he might get a point, maybe even 3 against Dundee. But Aberdeen will score about 6 against us and it will be similar to what happened with Goodwin

For there to have been no output at all on Hibs twitter feed (aside from reposts of the women's team) in nearly 48hrs is unusual...

[Tyler Durden]

Gray is not the main problem. The players are mostly rubbish, with a couple of exceptions.

Of course he is trying to juggle and making errors, but deep down it's clear that you can't win with a losing hand. I'm not convinced any new manager can get more from them either.

Gray is the reason we are bottom of the league. Gray seems to have no real footballing philosophy. It’s a shame but he is absolutely out his depth. Sitting on the bench forlorn at 0-2 on Saturday.

A Lee Johnson type would have us 7th or 8th I think.

[B.H.F.C]

Gray is the reason we are bottom of the league. Gray seems to have no real footballing philosophy. It’s a shame but he is absolutely out his depth. Sitting on the bench forlorn at 0-2 on Saturday.

A Lee Johnson type would have us 7th or 8th I think.

The contrast between the two benches was unreal on Saturday.

Robinson kicks every ball with his team. He’s on them for the whole game.

Our bench just look so uninspiring and you can take that back to the warm up as well when May and Craig just wander around preparing the team exactly the same every week (despite us starting every game abysmally).

Gray looked a beaten man. There is a photo of Robinson trying to talk to him on the park at FT and him just wandering away, head down.

[Smartie]

Gray is the reason we are bottom of the league. Gray seems to have no real footballing philosophy. It’s a shame but he is absolutely out his depth. Sitting on the bench forlorn at 0-2 on Saturday.

A Lee Johnson type would have us 7th or 8th I think.

Probably my biggest criticism of Gray would be that he hasn't shown any creativity when it comes to solving our biggest problems - getting the midfield joined up with the attack, the goalkeeper and LCB. He's generally just stuck with the same formation, the same players and expected different results.

The thing about Johnson is that you'd have expected him to acknowledge what wasn't working and to have thrown various options at it until it did work. It would work until it didn't again but I'd have expected him to be trying and to have stumbled on something.

FWIW Rocky in at CB and Levitt in midfield is exactly the sort of thing I mean, something Gray tried on Saturday, something he was slaughtered for but something you could argue improved us and looked more like working than anything we've tried for weeks. And something he should probably have tried weeks ago.

[Jones28]

https://www.linkedin.com/company/hibernian-fc/

Have a look at the people tab here. What do all these people do?

George Craig is on that list - it might not be up to date.

There certainly is a lot of people there though, lots of salaries to pay.

[easty]

Gray is the reason we are bottom of the league. Gray seems to have no real footballing philosophy. It’s a shame but he is absolutely out his depth. Sitting on the bench forlorn at 0-2 on Saturday.

A Lee Johnson type would have us 7th or 8th I think.

Johnson would have us higher than that I reckon.

He got us 5th and Europe with a squad with basically as much quality as this. Marshall, Hanlon, Stevenson, JDH, Cadden, Youan, Newell…all started in a derby win at the end of that season. All players who get/got regularly called ***** on here.

[Unseen work]

Johnson would have us higher than that I reckon.

He got us 5th and Europe with a squad with basically as much quality as this. Marshall, Hanlon, Stevenson, JDH, Cadden, Youan, Newell…all started in a derby win at the end of that season. All players who get/got regularly called ***** on here.

100%

Johnson was inconsistent but he had something about him to get a result or to get us scoring goals

He could also see how the games were going and make subs which effected the game in a positive way

[GloryGlory]

Has he not gone yet? This is agony.

Right on cue this morning I got an e-mail about Hibs 2025 calendar now being on sale. Read the room, Hibs eh? Why would I put pictures of those imposters up? Hopefully most of them will be long gone before the end of 2025.

[GloryGlory]

100%

Johnson was inconsistent but he had something about him to get a result or to get us scoring goals

He could also see how the games were going and make subs which effected the game in a positive way

We'd still have to suffer his slavering and havering in every interview, though. :greengrin

[Paul1642]

Gray is not the main problem. The players are mostly rubbish, with a couple of exceptions.

Of course he is trying to juggle and making errors, but deep down it's clear that you can't win with a losing hand. I'm not convinced any new manager can get more from them either.

I don’t believe bottom of the league is reflective of this squads abilities. Also good mangers can keep crap squads up within reason. Much worse squads than ours have survived in this league, Livi up until last season being a prime example.

We are only a few wins away from being out the relegation zone and the managerial change is needed before that small gap becomes a gulf.

[Unseen work]

We'd still have to suffer his slavering and havering in every interview, though. :greengrin

Very true 🤣 think how he came across was one of the main reasons he was punted as fans just simply didn’t like him

[He's here!]

Is it they sometimes they are working out the financials with him to go? Maybe he's been relieved of his duties but can't announce it yet?

Maybe he's going nowhere ?

I seem to recall he 'provisionally' accepted the job before making it official. Having seen us rattle through four managers in as many years, he was maybe ensuring his potential pay-off would be enough for him to take the gamble of being Hibs boss. Perhaps we can't afford to let him go?

[Unseen work]

For those that said we were improving up until Saturday.

We’re bottom of the form guide in the last 6 games

https://x.com/pieandbov/status/1855934788894445816?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

[HFC93]

Hibs haven't posted anything on X/Twitter since Gray's post-match interview on Saturday (apart from a few retweets from the Hibs Women account). Social media radio silence is ominous for Gray going by how we handled the recent dismissals of previous managers.

[supermcginn]

Hibs haven't posted anything on X/Twitter since Gray's post match interview on Saturday (apart from a a few retweets from the Hibs Women account). Social media radio silence is ominous for Gray going by how we handled the recent sacking of previous managers.

Yeah that suggests to me that he's gone, I'd expect an announcement this afternoon.

[Hibeesforever]

Wonder who took training this morning....must be a lot to sort out, reason for delay.....

[LaMotta]

Yeah that suggests to me that he's gone, I'd expect an announcement this afternoon.

I've heard this is what is going to happen from a usually v. reliable source. Absolutely gutted the way its panned out.:boo hoo:

[mcohibs]

Wonder who took training this morning....must be a lot to sort out, reason for delay.....

Is there training today? Didn’t think there would be with the international break

[MelbourneHibees]

Is there training today? Didn’t think there would be with the international break

Eh!?

[The Harp Awakes]

I don’t believe bottom of the league is reflective of this squads abilities. Also good mangers can keep crap squads up within reason. Much worse squads than ours have survived in this league, Livi up until last season being a prime example.

We are only a few wins away from being out the relegation zone and the managerial change is needed before that small gap becomes a gulf.

Correct. You just need to look at how Aberdeen's new Manager has transformed them. They were as bad as us last season and lost their best player by a mile close season.

It's all about appointing the right Manager, something the club have repeatedly ballsed up.

[Springbank]

I've heard this is what is going to happen from a usually v. reliable source. Absolutely gutted the way its panned out.:boo hoo:

The ideal scenario in the summer would have been David Gray taking over with Mackay as assistant (not Samson, not Eddie May, not Liam Craig)

The choice of a poor assistant manager has done for John Collins, Shaun Maloney and now SDG at Easter Road.

Ironically I think Mackay's best role at the club might have been assistant manager, and it would have benefitted Gray at this early stage in his managerial journey

[superfurryhibby]

100%

Johnson was inconsistent but he had something about him to get a result or to get us scoring goals

He could also see how the games were going and make subs which effected the game in a positive way

Kevin Nisbet helped with that one. Ten goals in 14 games, things may not have gone so well in the last third of 22-23 without him returning from injury.

The same last season, Moalida came in and made the difference, without his goals we might have been looking at the play offs?

[GloryGlory]

Correct. You just need to look at how Aberdeen's new Manager has transformed them. They were as bad as us last season and lost their best player by a mile close season.

It's all about appointing the right Manager, something the club have repeatedly ballsed up.

We seem to be the only club that doesn't actually benefit from a new manager bounce.

[LaMotta]

The ideal scenario in the summer would have been David Gray taking over with Mackay as assistant (not Samson, not Eddie May, not Liam Craig)

The choice of a poor assistant manager has done for John Collins, Shaun Maloney and now SDG at Easter Road.

Ironically I think Mackay's best role at the club might have been assistant manager, and it would have benefitted Gray at this early stage in his managerial journey

You may have a point but I think Mackay is too much of an "alpha male" to want to be anyone's assistant tbh.

[Basildon Hibs]

We seem to be the only club that doesn't actually benefit from a new manager bounce.

That's because we keep appointing ***** managers !!

[Green-Hibee-7]

Another crazily dismissive reference to what that goal meant to Hibs. It was truly monumental and will remain etched in my memory for the rest of my days. There's no question it makes most Hibs fans want to see David Gray succeed more than any recent manager and it's why there's more emotional baggage attached to sacking him than just seeing him as another item on the managerial conveyor belt.

I get as worked up as anyone by the pitiful state of of our club but it doesn't remove all sentiment from being a lifelong fan.

How is it dismissive? It acknowledges that we as a support will be forever grateful for that goal. Like everyone, I want/wanted Gray to succeed, but it has been clear from Kelty onwards that it is not going to work out. It’s not an easy decision, I’ll grant you that. It is emotional and not how we would want it to end, but I don’t see an alternative. He applied, he knew the risk and like I said, hewill understand it is not good enough. He needs to go or we will go down.

I am the first to say that he has been set up for failure by the clowns in charge, but he should still be getting more out the group we have.

[superfurryhibby]

How is it dismissive? It acknowledges that we as a support will be forever grateful for that goal. Like everyone, I want/wanted Gray to succeed, but it has been clear from Kelty onwards that it is not going to work out. It’s not an easy decision, I’ll grant you that. It is emotional and not how we would want it to end, but I don’t see an alternative. He applied, he knew the risk and like I said, hewill understand it is not good enough. He needs to go or we will go down.

I am the first to say that he has been set up for failure by the clowns in charge, but he should still be getting more out the group we have.

It wasn't clear from Kelty onwards. Gray made a lot of changes, but you would still expect any Hibs first team selection to beat a side from League 1. This game was on 20th July, there was still nearly six weeks left in the transfer window left to remedy our obvious shortcomings

I understand Gray is another failed appointment, but ultimately this is on the Gordon's, Kensell and Mackay.

Gray will know that, we should all know that.

[Jock O]

We seem to be the only club that doesn't actually benefit from a new manager bounce.

I think Neil Warnock would be saying hold my pint to that....

[JohnM1875]

That’s the club tweeted and it’s about u18’s and a woman’s game this week.

Maybe no imminent announcement.

[Ozyhibby]

The ideal scenario in the summer would have been David Gray taking over with Mackay as assistant (not Samson, not Eddie May, not Liam Craig)

The choice of a poor assistant manager has done for John Collins, Shaun Maloney and now SDG at Easter Road.

Ironically I think Mackay's best role at the club might have been assistant manager, and it would have benefitted Gray at this early stage in his managerial journey

It’s never the assistants fault. Manager is always to blame.


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[Unseen work]

That’s the club tweeted and it’s about u18’s and a woman’s game this week.

Maybe no imminent announcement.

Makes you think he’s staying, mental

[He's here!]

How is it dismissive? It acknowledges that we as a support will be forever grateful for that goal. Like everyone, I want/wanted Gray to succeed, but it has been clear from Kelty onwards that it is not going to work out. It’s not an easy decision, I’ll grant you that. It is emotional and not how we would want it to end, but I don’t see an alternative. He applied, he knew the risk and like I said, hewill understand it is not good enough. He needs to go or we will go down.

I am the first to say that he has been set up for failure by the clowns in charge, but he should still be getting more out the group we have.

Yes, apologies. I just thought initially the way you phrased it was a bit casual regarding such a huge moment. Somebody else had mentioned claims that he didn't deserve legendary status 'just for scoring a goal' so I was a bit quick to criticise your post!

[bingo70]

That’s the club tweeted and it’s about u18’s and a woman’s game this week.

Maybe no imminent announcement.

Presumably that’s a scheduled social media post that has been put in probably days or weeks in advance.

[easty]

Presumably that’s a scheduled social media post that has been put in probably days or weeks in advance.

Aye, no reason to put standard social media stuff on hold, I’d no expect the folk who update our social media will be having any input into SDGs future at all.

[MelbourneHibees]

Presumably that’s a scheduled social media post that has been put in probably days or weeks in advance.

I don't think it goes that deep.

[K-Zazu]

He staying then?

[Ozyhibby]

If there is no announcement today then we really are raising the relegation white flag. Mental.[emoji35]


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[FastEddieFelson]

To the folk who seem to be surprised he hasn't been sacked...what do you actually expect to happen? Realistically?

[Paulie Walnuts]

To the folk who seem to be surprised he hasn't been sacked...what do you actually expect to happen? Realistically?

I don’t think expecting Gray to be sacked after the start we’ve had is unrealistic in the slightest?

[bingo70]

To the folk who seem to be surprised he hasn't been sacked...what do you actually expect to happen? Realistically?

Him to be sacked?

Clue is in your question I think?

[Basildon Hibs]

Him to be sacked?

Clue is in your question I think?

👍👍

[FastEddieFelson]

I don’t think expecting Gray to be sacked after the start we’ve had is unrealistic in the slightest?


Him to be sacked?

Clue is in your question I think?


👍👍

I mean what do you expect to happen after that. Thought that was fairly obvious...

[GloryGlory]

So it's now almost 48 hours since the latest on field debacle following months of other on field debacles and, as our disastrous season limps endlessly on, the board haven't thought it necessary to communicate at all.

[bingo70]

I mean what do you expect to happen after that. Thought that was fairly obvious...

We appoint a new manager?

Sorry but im struggling to see where you’re going with this.

I suspect the black knights will take an active role in the footballing side of things going forward so I’m optimistic we will see positive changes going forward.

[mcohibs]

We appoint a new manager?

Sorry but im struggling to see where you’re going with this.

I suspect the black knights will take an active role in the footballing side of things going forward so I’m optimistic we will see positive changes going forward.

Not sure the sarcastic responses are warranted. Think the poster was just asking what people saw as being the next steps following Gray’s departure.

[Docker]

I couldn't imagine any self respecting in post manager accepting that

I wouldn't want that as a fan either

We would basically be saying - you've been one of the worst managers we've ever hired....but here's a old guy to sort of the mess you've made while you do some training

Not for me

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Not suggesting it would be an old guy……far from it. I was more thinking someone in the BK group that’s up and coming and ready for a next challenge. Maybe a six month assignment to help turn this around and then gets moved on for his career progression.
And if SDG is not keen on that, he could choose to step down.

[Tambo]

5pm and still no announcement, looking like Gray stays for now, don't see why they wait if they have the intentions of getting rid.

Could be way off the mark though.

[JohnM1875]

5pm and still no announcement, looking like Gray stays for now, don't see why they wait if they have the intentions of getting rid.

Could be way off the mark though.

Starting to think there are no intentions of getting rid.

[A Hi-Bee]

Perhaps they keep him going and throw him a lifebelt, in the shape of a real assistant manager, sure many good ones out there looking for work.

[TrinityHFC]

If there is no announcement today then we really are raising the relegation white flag. Mental.[emoji35]


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That’s bit dramatic in November. I get that we haven’t been picking up points and that needs to change quickly but we’ve been in lots of positions to win games and we can turn it around and be up the table reasonably quickly.

We just keep getting worse every time we change managers. Perhaps they think we have just as much chance of getting out of this by sticking with it?

I think some of you just enjoy the process of constant change then complaining that nothing gets built…

[bingo70]

Not sure the sarcastic responses are warranted. Think the poster was just asking what people saw as being the next steps following Gray’s departure.

I still don’t get it.

Might have been a wee bit sarcastic in my response but the point remains, is it not obvious what happens when a manager gets sacked? We appoint a replacement? What alternative answer is there that I could be missing?

I tried to cover that with a later post that says under the black knights getting more involved but the answer to the question, was we look for a replacement manager who is better.

[ChuckNor]

I don't think he is going anywhere. If that is the decision then so be it. We can't change that and I'll always want David Gray to do well. Hope he can turn this around. I do feel the squad he has been left with is severely lacking. Changes to the recruitment team this week almost certainly reflect where many insiders feel the blame lies. Those changes have been long overdue.

[Ozyhibby]

That’s bit dramatic in November. I get that we haven’t been picking up points and that needs to change quickly but we’ve been in lots of positions to win games and we can turn it around and be up the table reasonably quickly.

We just keep getting worse every time we change managers. Perhaps they think we have just as much chance of getting out of this by sticking with it?

I think some of you just enjoy the process of constant change then complaining that nothing gets built…

Are we building something just now?


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[Hibby70]

Wonder if we might have a situation where David Gray returns to his previous role and a new head coach comes in. Thus allowing him to stay in his current role until the new boss is recruited.

[B.H.F.C]

Wonder if we might have a situation where David Gray returns to his previous role and a new head coach comes in. Thus allowing him to stay in his current role until the new boss is recruited.

No chance. This thinking wouldn’t be applied to any other manager, it’s only because it’s David Gray that I’ve seen a few folk suggest it.

[H18 SFR]

I am stunned that he is still in post come 17:40, utterly stunned.

We have a real poverty of aspiration and ambition at the club just now.

No one in their right mind can surely believe that the manager is cut out for management.

[Basildon Hibs]

Perhaps they keep him going and throw him a lifebelt, in the shape of a real assistant manager, sure many good ones out there looking for work.

Why add to the already over inflated wage bill?

Just get Gray out the door.

[He's here!]

I don't think he is going anywhere. If that is the decision then so be it. We can't change that and I'll always want David Gray to do well. Hope he can turn this around. I do feel the squad he has been left with is severely lacking. Changes to the recruitment team this week almost certainly reflect where many insiders feel the blame lies. Those changes have been long overdue.

He'd have gone by today if he was going. Looks like we're soldiering on. As you say, we can but hope for a transformation.

[S4uzee]

Have some respect for a club legend!

[Paul1642]

Have some respect for a club legend!

I don’t think anyone is being particularly disrespectful, only pointing out the obvious that perseverance with Gray doesn’t look like the answer.

Saturday felt like another backwards step. We need to take action whist out gap at the bottom is still reversible.

[H18 SFR]

Have some respect for a club legend!

I respect his playing career, particularly that season and the years after under Lennon and Ross.

Wish him all the best in his future career as well in whatever role he has post Hibs. Sadly, he needs to leave us this week.

[B.H.F.C]

I respect his playing career, particularly that season and the years after under Lennon and Ross.

Wish him all the best in his future career as well in whatever role he has post Hibs. Sadly, he needs to leave us this week.

It’s not happening. If we were going to sack him, it would be done by now.

[FastEddieFelson]

I still don’t get it.

Might have been a wee bit sarcastic in my response but the point remains, is it not obvious what happens when a manager gets sacked? We appoint a replacement? What alternative answer is there that I could be missing?

I tried to cover that with a later post that says under the black knights getting more involved but the answer to the question, was we look for a replacement manager who is better.

My point is mainly about the people who are in "utter disbelief" that he hasn't been sacked the Monday after his first defeat in four games.

One reason why he hasn't been sacked (yet) is that there is no plan for his replacement.

Unless you think we'd be better off without a manager until such a plan is in place?

[bingo70]

My point is mainly about the people who are in "utter disbelief" that he hasn't been sacked the Monday after his first defeat in four games.

One reason why he hasn't been sacked (yet) is that there is no plan for his replacement.

Unless you think we'd be better off without a manager until such a plan is in place?

That’s what happens with every sacking of a manager though, you don’t find the replacement until the current manager has gone.

You use a caretaker manager for that period.

[Unseen work]

The only mistake they can make bigger than appointing him, is not sacking him.

[hibeerealist]

I am stunned that he is still in post come 17:40, utterly stunned.

We have a real poverty of aspiration and ambition at the club just now.

No one in their right mind can surely believe that the manager is cut out for management.

They will be tying down the NDA's as HFC do not want SDG or any of his coaching team going public on who is identifying and signing players, it would not be good for IG to be outed at this stage.

[JohnM1875]

Absolute stinker of a statement.

[NGoloGrantie]

What a shambles.


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[scuttle]

Absolute stinker of a statement.

Tells us nothing

[Spike Mandela]

The dreaded vote of confidence from the board:rolleyes:

[H18 SFR]

Absolute poverty of ambition at Hibs just now.

[FastEddieFelson]

Tells us nothing

Tells us he's not being sacked

[we are hibs]

Embarrassment of a statement.


Similar to the one they put out before they sacked Monty. We are being ran by clueless charlatans

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[Groathillgrump]

The dreaded vote of confidence.

Just prolongs the agony.

[blackpoolhibs]

Spineless from the top to the very bottom.

[Unseen work]

Absolutely embarrassing they’re sticking with Gray

1 win in 12
Bottom of the league
Lost to Kelty in pre season
Struggle to score
Concede at ease

All departments are under pressure to deliver?

It’s a hard time but we can do better.

Honestly get so far to **** Hibs

Fans will stop going, Grays name will be tarnished and we’ll get relegated and spend our 150th year in the championship

[BH Hibs]

This is going to turn toxic now.

[H18 SFR]

I’d have off the scale respect for Gray if he resigned.

[Callum_62]

Well, I guess that wasn't what ANYBODY was expecting

[emoji50][emoji50][emoji28]

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[B.H.F.C]

**** them. They don’t have a clue what they’re doing. Zero leadership. Nobody even prepared to put their name to it. Cowards.

[GRA]

Based on that statement he's going nowhere. Looks likely he'll be given the Jan transfer window.

[Spike Mandela]

This is the time we need to take a deep breath and hold our nerve.

The board are backing the coaching staff and the recruitment decisions they have made.

This is something we have criticised them for not doing in the past so they deserve credit for that.

Hopefully David and the players can turn it around.

[Unseen work]

Be interesting to see if the Bill Foley is in the press again in a couple of days saying we’re still not listening

I just can’t believe anyone from the Black Knights wants to keep Gray in charge

[GloryGlory]

Absolutely embarrassing they’re sticking with Gray

1 win in 12
Bottom of the league
Lost to Kelty in pre season
Struggle to score
Concede at ease

All departments are under pressure to deliver?



I should blxxdy hope so! That should go without saying.

[The Modfather]

This is the time we need to take a deep breath and hold our nerve.

The board are backing the coaching staff and the recruitment decisions they have made.

This is something we have criticised them for not doing in the past so they deserve credit for that.

Hopefully David and the players can turn it around.

In typical Hibs fashion we have backed ourselves into a corner and are now forced to double down and back the manager that makes the least sense to back and who is in the process of actually relegating us. Not just the downward trends we saw under Johnson & Monty that could have hypothetically ended in relegation but wasn’t overly likely to actually come to pass.

[NC1875]

This is the time we need to take a deep breath and hold our nerve.

The board are backing the coaching staff and the recruitment decisions they have made.

This is something we have criticised them for not doing in the past so they deserve credit for that.

Hopefully David and the players can turn it around.

We’ve been saying hopefully they can turn it around for about 6 weeks. Do we just give it another 6, and then another 6.

It’s clear as day he’s miles out of his depth and prolonging it only increases our chances of going down.

Absolute clowns running the club honestly.

[Jock O]

That’s what happens with every sacking of a manager though, you don’t find the replacement until the current manager has gone.

You use a caretaker manager for that period.

You think Man U really chose and closed the deal on their new manager within 3 days? Its not that uncommon now which suggest all finer print is done and dusted before sacking, which makes perfect sense if feasible. Hibs may not be in the big enough bracket for that but depending on the route for any successor it makes much more sense if feasible.

[Jock O]

This is the time we need to take a deep breath and hold our nerve.

The board are backing the coaching staff and the recruitment decisions they have made.

This is something we have criticised them for not doing in the past so they deserve credit for that.

Hopefully David and the players can turn it around.

Totally agree with this, in many ways they have taking a far riskier route than they could have, and than was predicted by the people saying they don't care.

After Saturday I will admit I wasn't sure what they should, and realistically could do, having previously been in the sticking with Gray mindset, but in some ways I will respect them for this, I think its a brave decision and hopefully one they genuinely believe in.

[Tambo]

This is the time we need to take a deep breath and hold our nerve.

The board are backing the coaching staff and the recruitment decisions they have made.

This is something we have criticised them for not doing in the past so they deserve credit for that.

Hopefully David and the players can turn it around.

I'm sure every fan will be wanting the same, Gray has been there before many a times, knows how much pressure he's under.

Time to try something else, he said that there wouldn't be a set way that we play, hard to think likewise, yeah we have maybe switched the formation a couple of times, that's about it.

He needs to stop playing the under performing players and stop making these silly subs, I did think his subs were much better(probably had no other choice) only problem is that the fringe players ain't exactly performed themselves.

Rudi made a great start to the season and would admit that his recent performances ain't been great, not really been playing much recently.

Our key players like Newell and Boyle haven't been at the races all season.

Having so many players out of contract and basically been told your not good enough and will be off in the summer(maybe January) is also a worry, why would you even try and put in 100%?

[Unseen work]

Our only hope

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=1&land_id=alle&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=alle&seit=2024&yt0=Show

[Real Emerald]

Our only hope

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=1&land_id=alle&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=alle&seit=2024&yt0=Show

We could do with 11 of them. 😂

[percy veer]

They’ve just posted the highlights on YouTube

Think you could be right about business as usual…

We had three must win games in a row. County away, United at home and St Mirren at home.

2 points out of 9

Mental

Who knows he might get a point, maybe even 3 against Dundee. But Aberdeen will score about 6 against us and it will be similar to what happened with Goodwin


It's so predictable what's going to happen in those 2 games winners from Murray and nisbet

[7Hero]

It's so predictable what's going to happen in those 2 games winners from Murray and nisbet

And they will both celebrate wildly, none of this Former Club hands up nonsense..

[Ronniekirk]

Reckon Hibs will be doing the old "business as usual" routine. Later today they'll start posting on social media again about what's happening this week (18s and woman's fixture for the week).

I don't think Gray will be going anywhere. I don't think Kensell will be going anywhere. I don't think McKay will be going anywhere. I don't think the Gordons will be going anywhere.

and you were spot on


We are ****ed.

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And you were Spot On

[SaulGoodman]

And they will both celebrate wildly, none of this Former Club hands up nonsense..

As it should be.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Our only hope

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=1&land_id=alle&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=alle&seit=2024&yt0=Show


it’s time for Viktor. And this time we get to chant “what’s on the end of the stick Vik”?


https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/victor-*******o/profil/spieler/632448

[Niffy]

28259

We can have two on this list.

[Scottie]

Empty him tonight FFS. Nae idea. Down to 10 and haven’t changed a thing.:rolleyes:

[1875Sean]

Can only hope the board have been looking at potential replacements over the last few weeks

[mcfly]

Face facts. This team as it is is going down.

No shape, no style no fight.

I’m sorry to say but they all need to go

Club is an utter shambles

How levitt can’t get a game in that midfield is a joke.

[we are hibs]

Can't wait to see who the golden morons replace him with. I doubt they'll listen to Foley or the black knights. They're too arrogant for that

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[Jim44]

Can only hope the board have been looking at potential replacements over the last few weeks

They can look but they can’t see. With the leadership we have, there is not a glimmer of hope.

[mcfly]

Our recruitment has been horrific

We have the worst goalie in the league and the weakest captain

Pathetic

[B.H.F.C]

Showed how out of his depth he was after the sending off. Waited until 2-1 down and then replaced two full backs. What impact was that meant to have?

Has to go.

[Potty78]

Players have let him down, one up and some idiot dives in. He changed it then our goalie sells it😡

[coldingham hibs]

Players have let him down, one up and some idiot dives in. He changed it then our goalie sells it😡

Players have let him down but it’s his job to make sure the don’t. There is no discipline in this team.

[WestCoastHibby]

I’ve always stuck up for him but even if we miraculously turn something positive here he’s got to go.
I’d rather have Dick Campbell in charge
And i cant stand Dick Campbell!!

[Tambo]

Has to walk tonight, looks deflated with no hope.

Big Daz and Boozy until Foley to choose his man for the job.

[LunasBoots]

Has to go now, way way out of his depth, shouldn't be the only one walking though

[Gatecrasher]

It's amazing just how bad we are, this is up there with Terry Butcher. Maybe even the worst hibs team I have ever seen.

[JohnM1875]

We can't keep him in position.

Absolutely mental we didn't sack him as soon as the last break started.

['mon the beers]

Nicky Cadden hung out to dry there by Gray, he just has to go. Took too long to decide how we should play after the sending off then changed it when it was too late.

[Callum_62]

Has to walk tonight, looks deflated with no hope.

Big Daz and Boozy until Foley to choose his man for the job.Marv is certainly trying to get himself into the equation imo

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[Hiber-nation]

Marv is certainly trying to get himself into the equation imo

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He's a slaver.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Marv is certainly trying to get himself into the equation imo

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Marv can bolt


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[Coach Jon]

Has to walk tonight, looks deflated with no hope.

Big Daz and Boozy until Foley to choose his man for the job.

FFS, how do you think we have ended up like this? Some people just dont seem to get it.

[JohnM1875]

FFS, how do you think we have ended up like this? Some people just dont seem to get it.

Don't get what?

We can't keep Gray and the obvious choice for interim is Daz and Boozy.

[Hibernia&Alba]

This can’t go on, it isn’t fair to anybody, including SDG. it’s a shame it hasn’t worked, but that’s life. He can’t be the manager for the next match.

[Crab apple]

He should have been gone after the St Mirren game. I think these clowns might still try and hold on to him until January. If they do we will be well adrift at the bottom as I can't see us picking up any more points with Gray in charge and that keeper between the sticks.

[Coach Jon]

Don't get what?

We can't keep Gray and the obvious choice for interim is Daz and Boozy.

Do I really have to explain?

[JohnM1875]

Do I really have to explain?

Aye, please do.

[judas]

Poor Gray. Failed by an incompetent and half interested board and stabbed in the front and back by ‘fans’ who once revered him.

And the players. Hiding behind the scapegoat like the cowards they are.

[Murphys Touch]

Poor Gray. Failed by an incompetent and half interested board and stabbed in the front and back by ‘fans’ who once revered him.

Nowt to do with fans here

He’s been poor, we can ALL see it. He should never have been appointed.

[Stanton Spence]

Poor Gray. Failed by an incompetent and half interested board and stabbed in the front and back by ‘fans’ who once revered him.
Nobody forced him into taking the job

[Coco Bryce]

Poor Gray. Failed by an incompetent and half interested board and stabbed in the front and back by ‘fans’ who once revered him.

Aye OK 😂😂

[Keith_M]

So long, and thanks for all the fpish

[Lancs Harp]

Poor Gray. Failed by an incompetent and half interested board and stabbed in the front and back by ‘fans’ who once revered him.

We'll always revere him as a player. Doesnt mean we should as a manager, different job and hes fallen way short. Biggest issues lie further up the chain though.

[GreenCastle]

Poor Gray. Failed by an incompetent and half interested board and stabbed in the front and back by ‘fans’ who once revered him.

Odd.

His team random team selections and his stubbornness to stick by a dodgy keeper just one of many reasons he should already be sacked. He's not turning this around.

[SteveHFC]

Poor Gray. Failed by an incompetent and half interested board and stabbed in the front and back by ‘fans’ who once revered him.

And the players. Hiding behind the scapegoat like the cowards they are.

Should never got job

[TRC]

Let him resign. He's got to go. It's just such a shame that he's had a horrific time. Of it.

[steviehibsleith]

Poor Gray. Failed by an incompetent and half interested board and stabbed in the front and back by ‘fans’ who once revered him.
Absolute rubbish. Player, Manager are two completely different Jobs. As a player will always be a legend. Hasn’t worked as a manger and justified criticism and possible sacking.
Been at Hibs for 10 years last three as coaching and caretaker manager. He knew the board and how things worked at Easter road and put himself forward for the managers job. That squad of players should not be bottom of the League .

[Coach Jon]

Absolute rubbish. Player, Manager are two completely different Jobs. As a player will always be a legend. Hasn’t worked as a manger and justified criticism and possible sacking.
Been at Hibs for 10 years last three as coaching and caretaker manager. He knew the board and how things worked at Easter road and put himself forward for the managers job. That squad of players should not be bottom of the League .

100% Correct. There seems to be a lot of Hibs fans who look to blame anybody except Gray for this, Sauzee syndrome I would call it.

[Aldo]

There is no way IG, McPherson or Malky Mackay should be anywhere near the search for the new coach/manager (that’s if we need one)

[timewilltell]

Do I really have to explain?

Aye, because they’ve both got loads of managerial experience 🙄🙄

[Hibees1973]

I feared for Gray the day the racist, misogynist Malky said he 'nailed his interview'.

Word is Gray was the only person seriously interviewed by the Golden Quadrant.

If Gray hangs around he may become part of the Golden Quintet and I don't want that.

He should resign now and rid himself of the charlatans at the club.

[Hillsidehibby]

Been dining out for 8 years for one header in a game that Anthony Stokes won in his own. Been caretaker to the last three buffoons in charge.
Sorry but I don’t feel bad for him. Good luck in whatever he does going forward but it’s not at Hibs.
In my humble opinion.

[Callum_62]

What a waste of 2 weeks that was

Get Gray gone and get a proper manager in

You can't go 1 win in 13 and lose 4-1 against Dundee

Totally unacceptable

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[Unseen work]

Ross County almost have double the amount of points as us

18 points from 13 games would get you top 6. That’s a horrendous standard

What makes it worse? We’re the worst out the lot

8 points from 13 is absolutely embarrassing

1 win in 13 is genuinely impressively bad. Most fans on here would get a better win rate than that

7 defeats out of 13!!!

Come on man

[Unseen work]

What a waste of 2 weeks that was

Get Gray gone and get a proper manager in

You can't go 1 win in 13 and lose 4-1 against Dundee

Totally unacceptable

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I said at the time the only way gray could turn it round was winning tonight, drawing with Aberdeen and beating Motherwell

It was never going to happen

Should have been sacked two weeks ago

[CentreForward]

Same with Sir Frank. A total God on the pitch but a failure in the dugout. With Gray his hero status is all about one incredible moment but he is completely not up to it as manager. Get him out now !

[The_Exile]

8 points from 13 is absolutely embarrassing

Yep, 8 points from the 39 we've played for. Grim. Honestly can't see where we get our 9th point from.

[Allant1981]

Been dining out for 8 years for one header in a game that Anthony Stokes won in his own. Been caretaker to the last three buffoons in charge.
Sorry but I don’t feel bad for him. Good luck in whatever he does going forward but it’s not at Hibs.
In my humble opinion.

hasn't worked out as manager but what a take on the guy and game, nonsense post

[GreenGray]

Yes, Gray’s time is up, but we actually started well today and again he was let down by an individual error. Happened so many times this season. The Hibs job is a poisoned chalice.


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[Bobby's Cinema]

Been dining out for 8 years for one header in a game that Anthony Stokes won in his own. Been caretaker to the last three buffoons in charge.
Sorry but I don’t feel bad for him. Good luck in whatever he does going forward but it’s not at Hibs.
In my humble opinion.
What a crap opinion of a guy that's given so much to us and always conducted himself with class, he's probably the last one to bring up that header. It looks like a sorry end. I look forward with interest to the next guy coming in making an immediate impact with this squad.

[Hillsidehibby]

hasn't worked out as manager but what a take on the guy and game, nonsense post
Is it though? What else of note has he done to be awarded god like status?

[keep the faith]

Been dining out for 8 years for one header in a game that Anthony Stokes won in his own. Been caretaker to the last three buffoons in charge.
Sorry but I don’t feel bad for him. Good luck in whatever he does going forward but it’s not at Hibs.
In my humble opinion.

Horrendous post. Jamboesque.

[judas]

Been dining out for 8 years for one header in a game that Anthony Stokes won in his own. Been caretaker to the last three buffoons in charge.
Sorry but I don’t feel bad for him. Good luck in whatever he does going forward but it’s not at Hibs.
In my humble opinion.

So. Stokes won the game in his own, but Gray scored the winning goal yeh?!?!
:rotflmao::rotflmao:

[Tambo]

A bad result after the vote of confidence never ends well, we will see, I honestly think he should just walk, all though some would say why would he due to money. The club means more and SDG should know that.

[Roxyhibee]

Gray is the worst appointment I’ve ever seen at Hibs. Guy is utterly clueless and the board trying to win the fans over thinking we’d want this after his late heroics that greatest of day in May 2016. What a disaster.

[whiskyhibby]

Been dining out for 8 years for one header in a game that Anthony Stokes won in his own. Been caretaker to the last three buffoons in charge.
Sorry but I don’t feel bad for him. Good luck in whatever he does going forward but it’s not at Hibs.
In my humble opinion.

:kbacker::kbacker:

[Unseen work]

The players don’t look like they ever get a rollicking with how they play

The discipline is a huge issue too

[Torto7062]

The Black Knights could sell their share if we're not careful

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[CathroMustStay]

Gray was always going to be a disastrous appointment, based on sentimentality and nothing else.

[JohnM1875]

The Black Knights could sell their share if we're not careful

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They didn't with Lorient so can't see them doing so with us.

Enough time to turn things around if we get rid of Gray and let them lead o. The next guy and recruitment.

Can't leave it any longer though.

[Crammond Hibee]

Gray is the worst appointment I’ve ever seen at Hibs. Guy is utterly clueless and the board trying to win the fans over thinking we’d want this after his late heroics that greatest of day in May 2016. What a disaster.

👍🏻

[SaulGoodman]

Been dining out for 8 years for one header in a game that Anthony Stokes won in his own. Been caretaker to the last three buffoons in charge.
Sorry but I don’t feel bad for him. Good luck in whatever he does going forward but it’s not at Hibs.
In my humble opinion.

That is some opinion.

[Hillsidehibby]

That is some opinion.

Sorry if it doesn’t fit the narrative

[GreenGray]

Is it though? What else of note has he done to be awarded god like status?

Is that an honest question??


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[Allant1981]

Is it though? What else of note has he done to be awarded god like status?

Yes it 100% is

[Hillsidehibby]

:kbacker::kbacker:
I don’t understand what your silly emojis mean. Explain in grown up words please.

[RossScott1991]

Looked close to tears in his interview after game at end, emotional figure. Think he knows that’s it and he can’t argue

[Potty78]

:kbacker::kbacker:
This a real post?not yours but the one above🙈

[Unseen work]

7% win rate in the league

[kentao]

Let down again by senior players who should be doing better.

Sending offs
Newell
Obita
Triantis
Mykola

Individual mistakes
Bursik x 100
Ekpiteta
O'Hora

Missed penalty's
Mykola
Boyle

Really feel sorry for SDG these imposters appear to be trying to find new ways to screw the club over every week they are lucky I'm not in charge or they`d be walking back from Dundee absolutely scunnered by them.

[Cabbage-Patch]

Been dining out for 8 years for one header in a game that Anthony Stokes won in his own. Been caretaker to the last three buffoons in charge.
Sorry but I don’t feel bad for him. Good luck in whatever he does going forward but it’s not at Hibs.
In my humble opinion.

Spot on. You may not like it but it's true. There is zero room for sentiment in football. Sauzee was a legend on the park but couldn't cut it as gaffer and Gray is the same. He's been a defensive coach to the last 3 managers. A defence which has got them all sacked. Should have been emptied along with Johnson. Set up for failure by our inept board but I don't have any sympathy for anyone in a position of power at our club. Complete restructuring top to bottom required.

[Unseen work]

Let down again by senior players who should be doing better.

Sending offs
Newell
Obita
Triantis
Mykola

Individual mistakes
Bursik x 100
Ekpiteta
O'Hora

Missed penalty's
Mykola
Boyle

Really feel sorry for SDG these imposters appear to be trying to find new ways to screw the club over every week they are lucky I'm not in charge or they`d be walking back from Dundee absolutely scunnered by them.

Bursik continuously being picked is on gray.

I refuse to believe Boruc and Smith aren’t the better options now.

Not only is he a poor goalie, he is now completely shot of confidence

[JimBHibees]

Sorry if it doesn’t fit the narrative

Doesn’t fit the narrative because it is a crock

[cubehindthegoal]

I don’t understand what your silly emojis mean. Explain in grown up words please.

I don’t either. But I do know that saying SDG has “been dining out for 8 years for one header” shows zero understanding or awareness or experience of the history of Hibernian football club. Or maybe I’m just getting too old and too grateful for the successes our club have achieved, and those who contributed to it.

[JimBHibees]

Bursik continuously being picked is on gray.

I refuse to believe Boruc and Smith aren’t the better options now.

Not only is he a poor goalie, he is now completely shot of confidence

Surprised he wasn’t subbed at half time as much to save him as anything else

[JimBHibees]

I don’t either. But I do know that saying SDG has “been dining out for 8 years for one header” shows zero understanding or awareness or experience of the history of Hibernian football club. Or maybe I’m just getting too old and too grateful for the successes our club have achieved, and those who contributed to it.

Absolutely spot on

[B.H.F.C]

Let down again by senior players who should be doing better.

Sending offs
Newell
Obita
Triantis
Mykola

Individual mistakes
Bursik x 100
Ekpiteta
O'Hora

Missed penalty's
Mykola
Boyle

Really feel sorry for SDG these imposters appear to be trying to find new ways to screw the club over every week they are lucky I'm not in charge or they`d be walking back from Dundee absolutely scunnered by them.

He made Newell captain.

It was him that wanted Triantis and Myko.

He keeps picking Bursik.

I do agree the players have let him down but he’s let himself down as well with some of his decisions. He just shouldn’t be manager of Hibs. It’s sad given who he is but we can’t let sentiment get in the way.

[cubehindthegoal]

Absolutely spot on

Thank you. You know, I’m not a glory hunter. And I’m not saying any other Hibs fan is either.

A good bit over half a century of supporting my local team since a child has taught me that if I want glory, I should’ve done what some of my friends did, and support a club in Glasgow that I didn’t have the money to get the bus to as they didn’t, and so they “supported” them from afar … while we climbed over the wall of our ground, if I couldn't get a lift over the turnstile … until I left childhood and could work myself and earn some cash to pay my way in as an adult, to support my team, my local team, win, draw or lose.

Our successes haven’t been frequent .. and we have lows, and this is a frustrating low … we apparently have resources to do better just now, but no sense in the club how to utilise that.

But … it’ll pass. Alway does … Hibs is a rollercoaster … if you can’t hang on, support a “successful” team in Glasgow, as that’s what will make you happy.

[He's here!]

Doesn’t fit the narrative because it is a crock

Correct.

Gray was consistently a terrific player for us and z good captain.

[erin go bragh]

Gray will forever be a Hibernian Legend but is in the running to be maybe our worst ever manager and for that alone, he has to go.
To think we got rid of Jack Ross who had a 50.4% win rate.
Gray has 7.69% win rate.

[jeffers]

I don’t either. But I do know that saying SDG has “been dining out for 8 years for one header” shows zero understanding or awareness or experience of the history of Hibernian football club. Or maybe I’m just getting too old and too grateful for the successes our club have achieved, and those who contributed to it.

It was a disgrace of a post. Not only did it show zero awareness of our history it showed zero awareness of who David Gray is as a human being. By all means criticise his performance as a manager as he’s failed in that.

[bordergreen]

Gray will forever be a Hibernian Legend but is in the running to be maybe our worst ever manager and for that alone, he has to go.To think we got rid of Jack Ross who had a 50.4% win rate. Gray has 7.69% win rate.Am devastated for Sir David. But it is time up. Will always be a Hibs Legend 90 + 2.

[Hillsidehibby]

Thank you. You know, I’m not a glory hunter. And I’m not saying any other Hibs fan is either.

A good bit over half a century of supporting my local team since a child has taught me that if I want glory, I should’ve done what some of my friends did, and support a club in Glasgow that I didn’t have the money to get the bus to as they didn’t, and so they “supported” them from afar … while we climbed over the wall of our ground, if I couldn't get a lift over the turnstile … until I left childhood and could work myself and earn some cash to pay my way in as an adult, to support my team, my local team, win, draw or lose.

Our successes haven’t been frequent .. and we have lows, and this is a frustrating low … we apparently have resources to do better just now, but no sense in the club how to utilise that.

But … it’ll pass. Alway does … Hibs is a rollercoaster … if you can’t hang on, support a “successful” team in Glasgow, as that’s what will make you happy.
Well done mate. Me too. Doesn’t make my opinion any less valid than yours

[DIXIHIBS]

Been dining out for 8 years for one header in a game that Anthony Stokes won in his own. Been caretaker to the last three buffoons in charge.
Sorry but I don’t feel bad for him. Good luck in whatever he does going forward but it’s not at Hibs.
In my humble opinion.

Think you might regret that post in the morning...not good.