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JimBHibees
29-11-2020, 04:14 PM
The way things are going, Hearts could well beat them on the 20th December. Two poor teams battling it out. They've every chance.
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Hearts have no chance
calumhibee1
29-11-2020, 04:15 PM
Looks to me like he was telling Celtic fans what they wanted to hear to ingratiate himself with them.
The ultimate in clutching at straws that. Even straight from the man himself there’s no way a bad word will be heard about Lennon.
Northernhibee
29-11-2020, 04:17 PM
Never mind some of the bizarre odds on next Celtic manager, the way some people defend Lennon I’m tempted to put a fiver on him being the next US president...
HoboHarry
29-11-2020, 04:18 PM
Hearts have no chance
I would have said that about Ross County before today's game.
Sir David Gray
29-11-2020, 04:18 PM
Looks to me like he was telling Celtic fans what they wanted to hear to ingratiate himself with them.
Whether he actually said it or not, it's pretty disrespectful to us.
He could have ingratiated himself by saying that he found it really strange to manage an away team at Parkhead and he's really glad to be back again and able to celebrate Celtic goals again and left it at that.
People are calling it unsubstantiated pish and that they don't believe it, yet it's come straight from the horse's mouth.
Bishop Hibee
29-11-2020, 04:18 PM
The guy won a trophy at Hibs and led us to a record points total whilst then leading us to eliminate a very sold and decent Asteras Tripolis in Europe.
For that reason I think it is quite disrespectful to constantly try to rip the p*** out of him when it suits.
Was he our best ever manager? Don’t be ridiculous. Did he struggle towards the end? Undoubtedly. Did he fluff a couple of Hampden trips? Standard for a Hibs manager.
Glorious to see Celtic struggling, for certain. But I’ll pass sticking the boot into a manager that was very good for us and worked hard for our club.
Absolutely this. Some great Hibs performances in his time as Manager. Far better than imposters like Butcher and Calderwood.
BILLYHIBS
29-11-2020, 04:21 PM
Celtic fans protesting outside Darkheid according to images on twitter
Glasgow’s in Tier 4 but there is not a lot of social distancing going on :confused:
Northernhibee
29-11-2020, 04:23 PM
Celtic fans protesting outside Darkheid according to images on twitter
Glasgow’s in Tier 4 but there is not a lot of social distancing going on :confused:
I have family in Anstruther and the amount of Glaswegian accents they’ve heard in the last fortnight has apparently been shocking.
BILLYHIBS
29-11-2020, 04:25 PM
I have family in Anstruther and the amount of Glaswegian accents they’ve heard in the last fortnight has apparently been shocking.
:greengrin
Jim44
29-11-2020, 04:25 PM
Whether he actually said it or not, it's pretty disrespectful to us.
He could have ingratiated himself by saying that he found it really strange to manage an away team at Parkhead and he's really glad to be back again and able to celebrate Celtic goals again and left it at that.
People are calling it unsubstantiated pish and that they don't believe it, yet it's come straight from the horse's mouth.
:agree: https://images.app.goo.gl/podxn3uX6J1twDn4A
MWHIBBIES
29-11-2020, 04:26 PM
I would respectfully suggest that he was playing to the crowd and joking. He never actually told his staff to sit down it was a joke to his audience on the night in question but if you want to believe it fill your boots.
Some of the ***** people are willing to buy and post as 'fact' on here is incredible.
its a quote from his mouth, how more ''fact'' does it get?
Magpie
29-11-2020, 04:29 PM
To be fair he could retire tonight and be proud of his achievements in the game as both a player and manager.
Northernhibee
29-11-2020, 04:30 PM
https://twitter.com/SimpsonsSPFL/status/1333068221281398784
wookie70
29-11-2020, 04:30 PM
Looks to me like he was telling Celtic fans what they wanted to hear to ingratiate himself with them. With the joke on his then current employer. He was very unprofessional. That was my biggest problem with him and the insight Lewis gave in his interview proved what many thought. He didn't bother with tactics. My gut says he is very like many managers and puts people in the team that he likes and ones that bow to his supposed superiority. He isn't a leader rather someone who uses his title and force to have authority. He may be a decent short term fix but clearing up after him will be more miserable than whatever short party you enjoyed.
worcesterhibby
29-11-2020, 04:33 PM
One thing is indisputable, Neil Lennon isn't nearly as good a manager as he thinks he is. His management style is mainly based around shouting and screaming if the team get beat, and telling people its not acceptable. This has given him the reputation of being a "winner" when in fact its actually the definition of being a bad loser. I really, really dislike Rangers and slippy G but I do think Celtics current demise under "serial winner" Lennon is hilarious. I don't hate him, he had us playing good football at times, but he always acted like he was bigger than the club and doing us a favour. That doesn't sit well with me.
.Sean.
29-11-2020, 04:34 PM
They green brigade fannies apparently attacking players cars?
Tobias Funke
29-11-2020, 04:35 PM
Some reporter with Twitter account @Phardingsport saying he’s been sacked.
Trying to link tweet but won’t work for some reason.
.Sean.
29-11-2020, 04:37 PM
Looks to me like he was telling Celtic fans what they wanted to hear to ingratiate himself with them.
Which is embarrassing enough when he’s employed by a competitor. He’s a total fanny
Radium
29-11-2020, 04:39 PM
Some reporter with Twitter account @Phardingsport saying he’s been sacked.
Trying to link tweet but won’t work for some reason.
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Brightside
29-11-2020, 04:39 PM
Some reporter with Twitter account @Phardingsport saying he’s been sacked.
Trying to link tweet but won’t work for some reason.
He put that up right after the final whistle. Its a guess....tbh there is a string chance he will be sacked but it wouldnt have been leaked to anyone at the final whistle.
He put that up right after the final whistle. Its a guess....tbh there is a string chance he will be sacked...True, his tenure is fraying at the ends.
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.Sean.
29-11-2020, 04:44 PM
Just in case anyone won't believe/read The Sun;
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/sport/17487926.neil-lennon-going-back-celtic-hibs-boss-like-seeing-someone-else-old-house/
Whether he actually said it or not, it's pretty disrespectful to us.
He could have ingratiated himself by saying that he found it really strange to manage an away team at Parkhead and he's really glad to be back again and able to celebrate Celtic goals again and left it at that.
People are calling it unsubstantiated pish and that they don't believe it, yet it's come straight from the horse's mouth.
How dare you come on here and be disrespectful to Lenny, especially when he was never disrespectful to Hibs when they employed him.
I’m away to put on my something inside so strong T-shirt and rock back and forth in my chair for a minute while reflecting on how lucky we were to employ the tactical wizard for a couple years.
Since90+2
29-11-2020, 04:46 PM
Lennon is overrated as a manager but I do find some of the comments about him abit extreme from some Hibs fans.
Tobias Funke
29-11-2020, 04:47 PM
He put that up right after the final whistle. Its a guess....tbh there is a string chance he will be sacked but it wouldnt have been leaked to anyone at the final whistle.
Aye fair point, will look daft if untrue though, not that he will give a ****.
Given the result and reaction of the lunatic section of their fanbase, he is gone.
Kennedy will get the job full time.
Iggy Pope
29-11-2020, 04:47 PM
Just in case anyone won't believe/read The Sun;
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/sport/17487926.neil-lennon-going-back-celtic-hibs-boss-like-seeing-someone-else-old-house/
You’re a very prolific poster on here and seem to have an opinion on just about everything, but I don’t seem to recall much dissent from you during his time. Indeed, most people were very happy with Lennon and happy to have him here after Stubbs jumped ship for the football Mecca of Rotherham.
That was a very good year or two.There was little to grumble about with our form in his first Premier League season at least and we all knew where his allegiances lay. Anyone who was at Tripolis that night doing “The Lenny” had certainly forgiven him that.
Now he’s just a disrespectful Celtic balloon. Isn’t this a bit of revisionism sneaking in whilst raking up tabloid reports from 18 months ago to back it up?
bigwheel
29-11-2020, 04:47 PM
I’ve never understood the amount of hate that Lennon gets on here. He did better than most in the managers job for us. Like many others he left after a disappointing run of results, but he also had some great periods of performance. I never sensed anything other than a good football guy trying to do his best in the role.....
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Rumble de Thump
29-11-2020, 04:49 PM
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Fake account.
Since452
29-11-2020, 04:50 PM
I’ve never understood the amount of hate that Lennon gets on here. He did better than most in the managers job for us. Like many others he left after a disappointing run of results, but he also had some great periods of performance. I never sensed anything other than a good football guy trying to do his best in the role.....
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Probably the complete lack of respect he showed towards the club on numerous occasions
Keith_M
29-11-2020, 04:50 PM
I'm really bored with the 'how great/***** he was at Hibs' argument and just enjoying the suffering of Celtc and whoever is their current manager.
As I would be if it was The Rangers.
bigwheel
29-11-2020, 04:51 PM
Probably the complete lack of respect he showed towards the club on numerous occasions
Didn’t see much of that ...
calumhibee1
29-11-2020, 04:59 PM
I’ve never understood the amount of hate that Lennon gets on here. He did better than most in the managers job for us. Like many others he left after a disappointing run of results, but he also had some great periods of performance. I never sensed anything other than a good football guy trying to do his best in the role.....
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Anyone that starts Lewis Allan and Oli Shaw upfront, effectively throwing the game before it even started with better options on the bench to try prove a point isn’t doing his best in the role.
weecounty hibby
29-11-2020, 05:00 PM
For six months or so he had us playing great football and I couldn't wait to get to ER. He imploded at Tynecastle and after that game worked his way out of the club. He was good for us and we were definitely god for him. He is a celtic manager at the moment and I like to see any celtic manager struggle
Sir David Gray
29-11-2020, 05:00 PM
You’re a very prolific poster on here and seem to have an opinion on just about everything, but I don’t seem to recall much dissent from you during his time. Indeed, most people were very happy with Lennon and happy to have him here after Stubbs jumped ship for the football Mecca of Rotherham.
That was a very good year or two.There was little to grumble about with our form in his first Premier League season at least and we all knew where his allegiances lay. Anyone who was at Tripolis that night doing “The Lenny” had certainly forgiven him that.
Now he’s just a disrespectful Celtic balloon. Isn’t this a bit of revisionism sneaking in whilst raking up tabloid reports from 18 months ago to back it up?
I don't hate Neil Lennon, I wasn't jumping for joy when he was appointed but he turned out to be the right guy at the right time. We had some entertaining times under him and we always went to Glasgow confident of getting something during his tenure. I also enjoyed his taunts towards Rangers.
I just like to point out facts when people are posting clear inaccuracies by saying it's unsubstantiated pish that Lennon didn't want to celebrate at Parkhead whilst at Hibs.
I thought the comments attributed to him in March 2019 were poor then and I still do now.
Heisenberg
29-11-2020, 05:05 PM
Clyde 1 now confirming he's away.
https://twitter.com/C1YDESSB/status/1333109097424707585?s=19
That’s a windup, unfortunately so for the Celtc fans.
Billy Whizz
29-11-2020, 05:06 PM
Clyde 1 now confirming he's away.
https://twitter.com/C1YDESSB/status/1333109097424707585?s=19
Must be fact if Clyde are reporting it
Since452
29-11-2020, 05:07 PM
Clyde 1 now confirming he's away.
https://twitter.com/C1YDESSB/status/1333109097424707585?s=19
Fake account I think
Sir David Gray
29-11-2020, 05:08 PM
Must be fact if Clyde are reporting it
Nah just noticed it's a spoof account, apologies.
Since90+2
29-11-2020, 05:08 PM
Must be fact if Clyde are reporting it
It's a fake account. Only has 2 followers.
Did you take care to check if that is a fake account or not? Follows no-one and has 2 followers.
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Max_Shah
29-11-2020, 05:09 PM
Dear Santa,
Please make Malky “banter” MacKay happen and in return I’ll take every A&E weekend night shift in 2021.
The copium they are huffing over on Kerryfail is hilarious and bonus points go to the best fans in the world™ vandalizing board members/players vehicles in the car park – must have not paid their £1.
Even serious journalist ™ Phil MacGxhjdbfjncjbu is doomer-posting about NL.
All is not well. Fun times.
Hibs90
29-11-2020, 05:10 PM
Nah just noticed it's a spoof account, apologies.
:greengrin
Apparently fans gathered outside Parkhead and some allegedly hitting some cars
ancient hibee
29-11-2020, 05:10 PM
And that right there is all that needs to be said when people so desperately try to defend him.
Manoeuvred his way out of Hibs to get the Celtic job whilst basically throwing games putting Shaw and Lewis Allan up top to get there. Still though, stand up guy, best manager ever, Sir Alex 2.0, be careful what you wish for.
This must be one of your most bizarre posts.You really think he deliberately threw games when he was manager at Hibs?
calumhibee1
29-11-2020, 05:10 PM
This must be one of your most bizarre posts.You really think he deliberately threw games when he was manager at Hibs?
Playing Lewis Allan and Oli Shaw up top away to Livi when he didn’t need to was as good as throwing the game.
He desperately worked his ticket to get back to Celtic.
where'stheslope
29-11-2020, 05:10 PM
Got to say, we missed an opportunity to play them in the Cup Final, they are going backwards at the moment!!!!
Caversham Green
29-11-2020, 05:10 PM
Looks to me like he was telling Celtic fans what they wanted to hear to ingratiate himself with them.
Remember when Flo Kamberi told Rangers fans what they wanted to hear? Should we just shrug that off?
One difference was that Flo was actually going to be working for Rangers - Lennon was still a Hibs employee.
bigwheel
29-11-2020, 05:11 PM
I don't hate Neil Lennon, I wasn't jumping for joy when he was appointed but he turned out to be the right guy at the right time. We had some entertaining times under him and we always went to Glasgow confident of getting something during his tenure. I also enjoyed his taunts towards Rangers.
I just like to point out facts when people are posting clear inaccuracies by saying it's unsubstantiated pish that Lennon didn't want to celebrate at Parkhead whilst at Hibs.
I thought the comments attributed to him in March 2019 were poor then and I still do now.
He’s certainly told that story ..told it at a Celtic supporters event I believe ...didn’t see any evidence of it at the match - at the time , and in footage after it ..
Whether he did or not , Lewis Stevenson says that he set an expectation of winning against Celtic and Rangers home and away ..in a way that no other manager he had played under did. So it certainly didn’t stop him trying to get results against them ..
davhibby
29-11-2020, 05:12 PM
You’re a very prolific poster on here and seem to have an opinion on just about everything, but I don’t seem to recall much dissent from you during his time. Indeed, most people were very happy with Lennon and happy to have him here after Stubbs jumped ship for the football Mecca of Rotherham.
That was a very good year or two.There was little to grumble about with our form in his first Premier League season at least and we all knew where his allegiances lay. Anyone who was at Tripolis that night doing “The Lenny” had certainly forgiven him that.
Now he’s just a disrespectful Celtic balloon. Isn’t this a bit of revisionism sneaking in whilst raking up tabloid reports from 18 months ago to back it up?
The 8 months from the January until the October before he left were fantastic and it was some of the best football I’ve seen hibs play but there’s a lot of revisionism from people on here too about the rest of his time here. The last few months were every bit as bad as Hecky last season and we were mind numbingly boring in the Championship and drew our way to the league.
The Modfather
29-11-2020, 05:13 PM
:greengrin
Apparently fans gathered outside Parkhead and some allegedly hitting some cars
They were probably trying to steal the hubcaps.
bigwheel
29-11-2020, 05:15 PM
Playing Lewis Allan and Oli Shaw up top away to Livi when he didn’t need to was as good as throwing the game.
He desperately worked his ticket to get back to Celtic.
As if Hibs would have been difficult to deal with if Celtic had come wanting him ..a couple of hundred Thousands and we would have been driving him through ...he didn’t have a good period at the end , some players let him down - Kamberi for one, and he wasn’t at his best ..but the conspiracy stuff and the haters - I’ll never understand ..I’ll remember as good a winning run home and away that I can recall us having in the top league ..
ancient hibee
29-11-2020, 05:15 PM
Playing Lewis Allan and Oli Shaw up top away to Livi when he didn’t need to was as good as throwing the game.
He desperately worked his ticket to get back to Celtic.
That’s not what you said and I guess you know that.You said he was “basically throwing games”.I’m asking you if you believe that?
Northernhibee
29-11-2020, 05:16 PM
Here's the thing.
I loved Alan Stubbs as manager and I really like Jack Ross as their aim is to do their talking on the pitch. They look to make their team as good as possible and hard to beat on the pitch and when they come up against it (like Stubbsy did at Ibrox) they stick it right up the opposition by beating them (the 4-0 at Easter Road was a spectacular highlight, as was the Lewis Stevenson goal 2-0 victory at Ibrox). There's no retort to that, it's a perfect answer, the headlines that the opposition wake up to in the morning are "Hibs win again".
I don't want managers cupping their ears at Hearts fans and going "Waaaaaay" at them if they have a goal disallowed in a game that we're not even winning (and this isn't condoning or even mitigating what happened afterwards in case anyone wants to waste their time having that argument). I don't want them squaring up with Jim Duffy, I don't want them pretending to be an aeroplane in another game we're not winning. That gets the manager banned from the touchline and the headlines are all about them, often written by his mates in the media. Similarly I don't want my manager playing to the crowd at another clubs event or answering endless questions about other clubs at press conferences. I want my manager to be focused - 100% when they are "on the clock" or being paid - on Hibs. Nobody else.
I didn't want the likes of the negotiations with McGeouch or Fyvie being played out in the press, I just wanted behind the scenes for Leeann and the people in charge of the purse strings to be able to work as hard as possible to keep them here.
Hibs became a sideshow when Lennon was in charge, even to the point of those who saw through him as a bang average manager with celebrity baggage and mates in the media got it tight for saying what was obvious. Even when we had that amazing half season and praised the team it was "Oh that's an embarrasing u-turn". Even within our own club Hibs became a sideshow to Neil Lennon.
I won't take away that magnificent five month when we were flying. That would be churlish and I loved the gung ho football we played. However I hope we never, ever again look to hire a celebrity manager who is put across as bigger than the club. It's - in my opinion only - harmed the club in the mid term.
Iggy Pope
29-11-2020, 05:16 PM
I don't hate Neil Lennon, I wasn't jumping for joy when he was appointed but he turned out to be the right guy at the right time. We had some entertaining times under him and we always went to Glasgow confident of getting something during his tenure. I also enjoyed his taunts towards Rangers.
I just like to point out facts when people are posting clear inaccuracies by saying it's unsubstantiated pish that Lennon didn't want to celebrate at Parkhead whilst at Hibs.
I thought the comments attributed to him in March 2019 were poor then and I still do now.
It’s done though so why dredge it up? Very petty. And like I suggested, I don’t remember too much dissent at the time. I’m not giving much of a toss that he didn’t want to celebrate at Parkhead, it’s hardly a surprise is it? He’s Celtic daft and we all knew that 20 years ago at least. It’s an allegiance that has had his life threatened more than once. There’s a big cast of football people who have done non-celebrating down the years. I remember Denis Law being amongst the first.
Enjoy him failing at Celtic, obviously. Why wouldn’t we. Googling quotes from all that time back is poor in my opinion.
Sir David Gray
29-11-2020, 05:19 PM
Did you take care to check if that is a fake account or not? Follows no-one and has 2 followers.
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Clearly not, I've deleted my post, no big deal surely. :rolleyes:
Iggy Pope
29-11-2020, 05:20 PM
The 8 months from the January until the October before he left were fantastic and it was some of the best football I’ve seen hibs play but there’s a lot of revisionism from people on here too about the rest of his time here. The last few months were every bit as bad as Hecky last season and we were mind numbingly boring in the Championship and drew our way to the league.
No argument from me but I will say that we also had a very good run in the Scottish whilst winning that league. It wasn’t perfect under Lennon but it was no disaster zone and most fans enjoyed it.
eastterrace
29-11-2020, 05:21 PM
Playing Lewis Allan and Oli Shaw up top away to Livi when he didn’t need to was as good as throwing the game.
He desperately worked his ticket to get back to Celtic.got to agree with you on this, as at the time I thought it was ridiculous but he was wanting out by then.
B.H.F.C
29-11-2020, 05:22 PM
As if Hibs would have been difficult to deal with if Celtic had come wanting him ..a couple of hundred Thousands and we would have been driving him through ...he didn’t have a good period at the end , some players let him down - Kamberi for one, and he wasn’t at his best ..but the conspiracy stuff and the haters - I’ll never understand ..I’ll remember as good a winning run home and away that I can recall us having in the top league ..
Pretty much the way I see it.
I really couldn’t care how Lennon does now he’s at Celtic. Actually that’s wrong, I quite like what he’s doing at the moment. If he somehow keeps his job, I don’t mind at all if he keeps doing what he’s doing.
However, I find that some folk are quite determined to turn his time at Hibs in to something a lot poorer than it was. It didn’t end well, but the good well outweighed the bad for me.
Jones28
29-11-2020, 05:24 PM
Didn’t see much of that ...
I saw a guy who stopped caring towards the end, picking mental teams, playing kids to try and prove some sort of point to the board about something even though he’d made about 10 signings that summer, telling the Hibs bench to sit down when celebrating a goal, taking a player the club paid a fee for and throwing him under the bus when results didn’t go our way and making some sort of statement after the derby we lost a tynecastle about being unsure if he was staying next season.
I saw a guy who felt Hibs were a convenience option, who wanted to resurrect a dying career and saw an opportunity to go a relatively big fish in a small pond.
I did also see a manager who wanted to play the kind of football everyone wants to see, and no doubt watched some of the best games I’ll ever see under his tenure.
Sir David Gray
29-11-2020, 05:26 PM
It’s done though so why dredge it up? Very petty. And like I suggested, I don’t remember too much dissent at the time. I’m not giving much of a toss that he didn’t want to celebrate at Parkhead, it’s hardly a surprise is it? He’s Celtic daft and we all knew that 20 years ago at least. It’s an allegiance that has had his life threatened more than once. There’s a big cast of football people who have done non-celebrating down the years. I remember Denis Law being amongst the first.
Enjoy him failing at Celtic, obviously. Why wouldn’t we. Googling quotes from all that time back is poor in my opinion.
I didn't dredge it up, I was adding to a conversation that was already taking place and correcting a few inaccuracies, absolutely nothing petty about that. You've chosen not to "give a toss", as is your right, others felt it was disrespectful, which is also their right. I personally have no feelings either way towards Lennon anymore.
For what it's worth, I'd say there's a big difference between someone choosing not to celebrate and telling others not to celebrate.
BroxburnHibee
29-11-2020, 05:26 PM
https://twitter.com/TrueBluesLoyal/status/1333106164415016968?s=19
Since452
29-11-2020, 05:28 PM
Playing Lewis Allan and Oli Shaw up top away to Livi when he didn’t need to was as good as throwing the game.
He desperately worked his ticket to get back to Celtic.
Between that, threatening to walk away at Tynecastle, constantly talking about Celtic while managing us, screaming in the linesman's face at Rugby Park, telling Hibs staff not to celebrate the goal against Celtic, throwing himself to the ground at Tynecastle, kind of makes me dislike hin
judas
29-11-2020, 05:29 PM
Really hope this dick of a man gets his jotters today.
Along with The Poppy Thieves exit that would make for an exquisite weekend
I can’t believe that some Hibs fans have accepted the utterly abysmal patter of Lenny in his last months at ER. So disrespectful and petulant. The fawning over Lennon, as if this luck riding fool was some genius too worthy for Hibs, makes me laugh.
Whether invading the pitch vs Rangers like a pub league manager, refusing to speak to the media, trashing his players publicly, pretending to be hit in the face by a coin after jumping about like a clown or thinking an effigy was vandalism in a tunnel, he saved all of his most classless moments for Hibs because he knew it wouldn’t be acceptable at his real love, Celtic.
Sir David Gray
29-11-2020, 05:29 PM
He’s certainly told that story ..told it at a Celtic supporters event I believe ...didn’t see any evidence of it at the match - at the time , and in footage after it ..
Whether he did or not , Lewis Stevenson says that he set an expectation of winning against Celtic and Rangers home and away ..in a way that no other manager he had played under did. So it certainly didn’t stop him trying to get results against them ..
His will to win against Celtic and Rangers whilst he was with us was never in doubt, which I've alluded to in one of my previous posts. It's the most confident I've ever been of getting points in Glasgow during my lifetime.
Northernhibee
29-11-2020, 05:31 PM
Really hope this dick of a man gets his jotters today.
Along with The Poppy Thieves exit that would make for an exquisite weekend
I can’t believe that some Hibs fans have accepted the utterly abysmal patter of Lenny in his last months at ER. So disrespectful and petulant. The fawning over Lennon, as if this luck riding fool was some genius too worthy for Hibs, makes me laugh.
Whether invading the pitch vs Rangers like a pub league manager, refusing to speak to the media, trashing his players publicly, pretending to be hit in the face by a coin after jumping about like a clown or thinking an effigy was vandalism in a tunnel, he saved all of his most classless moments for Hibs because he knew it wouldn’t be acceptable at his real love, Celtic.
That's OTT. He shouldn't have to accept the graffiti about him or the coin, and although there's disagreement with how he dealt with it, he shouldn't have to have coins thrown at him or threatening grafitti at all.
Sir David Gray
29-11-2020, 05:32 PM
https://twitter.com/TrueBluesLoyal/status/1333106164415016968?s=19
Greatest fans in the world though...
MWHIBBIES
29-11-2020, 05:33 PM
Between that, threatening to walk away at Tynecastle, constantly talking about Celtic while managing us, screaming in the linesman's face at Rugby Park, telling Hibs staff not to celebrate the goal against Celtic, throwing himself to the ground at Tynecastle, kind of makes me dislike hinHe was spot on at Killie. Horrendous decision. Refs NEED to be told when they are activiely ****ing teams over with thier dreadful decisions.
Really hope this dick of a man gets his jotters today.
Along with The Poppy Thieves exit that would make for an exquisite weekend
I can’t believe that some Hibs fans have accepted the utterly abysmal patter of Lenny in his last months at ER. So disrespectful and petulant. The fawning over Lennon, as if this luck riding fool was some genius too worthy for Hibs, makes me laugh.
Whether invading the pitch vs Rangers like a pub league manager, refusing to speak to the media, trashing his players publicly, pretending to be hit in the face by a coin after jumping about like a clown or thinking an effigy was vandalism in a tunnel, he saved all of his most classless moments for Hibs because he knew it wouldn’t be acceptable at his real love, Celtic.
WAY too far. I dislike the guy but this is too much.
Radium
29-11-2020, 05:34 PM
Fake account.
No blue tick but 8k followers on a 6 year old account. What am I missing (genuine question as don’t want to share rubbish)
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wookie70
29-11-2020, 05:35 PM
No argument from me but I will say that we also had a very good run in the Scottish whilst winning that league. It wasn’t perfect under Lennon but it was no disaster zone and most fans enjoyed it.
The run in the Scottish was basically a win against Hearts and a shocking team selection and post match outburst against Aberdeen in the semi. The 5,6 or 8 month run that others have talked about was 3 months from the end of January until the end of April. We did have the amazing 5-5 game which sums his tenure up for me. No tactics but enough good players to turn it on for parts of a game or season followed buy him being banned for unprofessional behaviour.
Iggy Pope
29-11-2020, 05:37 PM
I didn't dredge it up, I was adding to a conversation that was already taking place and correcting a few inaccuracies, absolutely nothing petty about that. You've chosen not to "give a toss", as is your right, others felt it was disrespectful, which is also their right. I personally have no feelings either way towards Lennon anymore.
For what it's worth, I'd say there's a big difference between someone choosing not to celebrate and telling others not to celebrate.
Well you went to the bother of digging up an old article about a man you have no feelings towards and you are involved plenty in this thread. I find that petty and now, contradictory.
And the last time I met Gary Parker he clearly had his own mind and was capable of standing up or sitting down of his own accord. It’s all a bit daft I think.
I’m not hailing Lennon as a football genius either. He was here, he did well. He left. We regressed.
Hibs90
29-11-2020, 05:38 PM
https://twitter.com/Tonyb19528846/status/1333104589634211841?s=20
Northernhibee
29-11-2020, 05:38 PM
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I’m not hailing Lennon as a football genius either. He was here, he did well. He left. We regressed.
We didn't - our form had a big upturn, although Heckingbottom got it entirely wrong in the summer window.
Iggy Pope
29-11-2020, 05:40 PM
The run in the Scottish was basically a win against Hearts and a shocking team selection and post match outburst against Aberdeen in the semi. The 5,6 or 8 month run that others have talked about was 3 months from the end of January until the end of April. We did have the amazing 5-5 game which sums his tenure up for me. No tactics but enough good players to turn it on for parts of a game or season followed buy him being banned for unprofessional behaviour.
Knocking Hearts out the cup. Pretty basic.
Mr. Wonderful
29-11-2020, 05:40 PM
For six months or so he had us playing great football and I couldn't wait to get to ER. He imploded at Tynecastle and after that game worked his way out of the club. He was good for us and we were definitely god for him. He is a celtic manager at the moment and I like to see any celtic manager struggle
He huffed and puffed his way to promotion with Stubbsies side and then huffed and puffed a good side to mid table by January with some proper dodgy signings not helping. He then deserves credit for what happened after January, he got a bit lucky perhaps with Flo but I'll stop short of saying it was an achievement because that hibs side would and should have finished 2nd or 3rd if we hadn't made a mess of it in the early part of the season and he didn't change a winning side at tynecastle.
He did well for us in Europe but again I felt Mcginn was pulling that side through at times and losing him, ultimately, was what cost him his job and results to dive off a cliff edge
We've then spent the next 2/3 years recovering from that period.
A good motivator of someone else's talent but found out when he has to make his own way
whiskyhibby
29-11-2020, 05:40 PM
Hundreds of Celtic fans, along with 30 police vans outside Parkhead, helicopter overhead, looks like it’s getting pretty ugly...
Radium
29-11-2020, 05:40 PM
https://twitter.com/TrueBluesLoyal/status/1333106164415016968?s=19
Any attempt from the SPFL to get more fans in may as well be forgotten after that. I have already expressed my scepticism about the request but those scenes will have holed it below the waterline.
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calumhibee1
29-11-2020, 05:42 PM
That’s not what you said and I guess you know that.You said he was “basically throwing games”.I’m asking you if you believe that?
Hence the fact he was “basically throwing games”. If I believed he was actually throwing them then I would have just said he was throwing games. Quite a simple post really.
greenlex
29-11-2020, 05:44 PM
Hundreds of Celtic fans, along with 30 police vans outside Parkhead, helicopter overhead, looks like it’s getting pretty ugly...
Lennons been there all day. It’s been ugly for ages.
weecounty hibby
29-11-2020, 05:44 PM
Hence the fact he was “basically throwing games”. If I believed he was actually throwing them then I would have just said he was throwing games. Quite a simple post really.
I get what you're saying, I don't think there is a Hibs fan anywhere who saw the line up V Livingston and thought we were going to win that game. One if the most bizarre selections I've ever seen
Iggy Pope
29-11-2020, 05:44 PM
We didn't - our form had a big upturn, although Heckingbottom got it entirely wrong in the summer window.
I’m defending him now and I’ve no idea why. He’s not the messiah.
We very definitely regressed from a 4th place finish to a 5th placed one then a 7th placed finish. Look it up.
The Modfather
29-11-2020, 05:45 PM
He was spot on at Killie. Horrendous decision. Refs NEED to be told when they are activiely ****ing teams over with thier dreadful decisions.
WAY too far. I dislike the guy but this is too much.
There’s a way to remonstrate about a bad decision or standard of officiating. I felt Lennon spectacular crossed the line in the way he went about it that day. He came across as an angry little man rather than having sympathy for his frustration at fest was a terrible decision.
Same with the Duffy incident. He might not have been the instigator but I was again embarrassed by his behaviour that night.
Sir David Gray
29-11-2020, 05:45 PM
Well you went to the bother of digging up an old article about a man you have no feelings towards and you are involved plenty in this thread. I find that petty and now, contradictory.
And the last time I met Gary Parker he clearly had his own mind and was capable of standing up or sitting down of his own accord. It’s all a bit daft I think.
I’m not hailing Lennon as a football genius either. He was here, he did well. He left. We regressed.
God you're not giving this up eh?
People on this board were being called out for posting "unsubstantiated pish" when they said that Lennon had called on members of his team not to celebrate goals against Celtic. That wasn't unsubstantiated pish and I simply provided the evidence to substantiate it.
I'm getting bored of this subject now and I'm leaving it there. I'll leave you to think whatever you want about what I've said, I really couldn't care less.
calumhibee1
29-11-2020, 05:45 PM
I get what you're saying, I don't think there is a Hibs fan anywhere who saw the line up V Livingston and thought we were going to win that game. One if the most bizarre selections I've ever seen
Yup. Drove through, seen the team and wished I hadn’t bothered. Never mind win it, we were getting beat, simple as that. All so Lennon could prove a point. It didn’t matter if we lost a game as long as he got to do that.
hibsbollah
29-11-2020, 05:46 PM
Well you went to the bother of digging up an old article about a man you have no feelings towards and you are involved plenty in this thread. I find that petty and now, contradictory.
And the last time I met Gary Parker he clearly had his own mind and was capable of standing up or sitting down of his own accord. It’s all a bit daft I think.
I’m not hailing Lennon as a football genius either. He was here, he did well. He left. We regressed.
:agree:
The shrill delight from the Lennon haters on here can be summed up as teenage boy getting his cheapies when ex girlfriend is getting fat shamed online and is about to get dumped by the current boyfriend she always loved more than him.
I quite liked the girl in question at the time, we had some good times, but I’m quite happy with the new one (Jack Ross, keep up with the clumsy metaphors FFS).
Northernhibee
29-11-2020, 05:46 PM
I’m defending him now and I’ve no idea why. He’s not the messiah.
We very definitely regressed from a 4th place finish to a 5th placed one then a 7th placed finish. Look it up.
That was due to Heckingbottoms failings rather than Lennon leaving though. We were eighth or ninth when he left the club and plummeting. Both those finishes are above where he had us that final season.
Hibs90
29-11-2020, 05:46 PM
Lennons been there all day. It’s been ugly for ages.
:tee hee:
Iggy Pope
29-11-2020, 05:48 PM
God you're not giving this up eh?
People on this board were being called out for posting "unsubstantiated pish" when they said that Lennon had called on members of his team not to celebrate goals against Celtic. That wasn't unsubstantiated pish and I simply provided the evidence to substantiate it.
I'm getting bored of this subject now and I'm leaving it there. I'll leave you to think whatever you want about what I've said, I really couldn't care less.
Why would I give up? You seem to insist on replying whilst not caring much. And it’s ‘Pope’ to you sir, not God.
Max_Shah
29-11-2020, 05:49 PM
Kicking off big-style outside Celtic Park.
They are not happy.
Police attending in numbers and in riot gear.
Source: Dude who is literally standing in the middle of it.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1333109883483418630
Iggy Pope
29-11-2020, 05:50 PM
That was due to Heckingbottoms failings rather than Lennon leaving though. We were eighth or ninth when he left the club and plummeting. Both those finishes are above where he had us that final season.
Those failings of Heckingbottoms you refer to - they’re part of the regression I referred to.
Northernhibee
29-11-2020, 05:53 PM
Those failings of Heckingbottoms you refer to - they’re part of the regression I referred to.
We still finished higher in those two seasons compared to where we were under Lennon in his final season though. Heckingbottom steadied the ship and tookk us up the league in the remainder of that season.
We're splitting hairs here, as we're both correct in what we're saying, it's just a choice of how it's interpreteded.
B.H.F.C
29-11-2020, 05:53 PM
Yup. Drove through, seen the team and wished I hadn’t bothered. Never mind win it, we were getting beat, simple as that.
Except the game he started the two of them up front, we didn’t get beat. And it was at ER.
The player benched, Kamberi, came of the bench and missed a penalty.
General point I get, it was a strange selection.
Chorley Hibee
29-11-2020, 05:54 PM
He huffed and puffed his way to promotion with Stubbsies side and then huffed and puffed a good side to mid table by January with some proper dodgy signings not helping. He then deserves credit for what happened after January, he got a bit lucky perhaps with Flo but I'll stop short of saying it was an achievement because that hibs side would and should have finished 2nd or 3rd if we hadn't made a mess of it in the early part of the season and he didn't change a winning side at tynecastle.
He did well for us in Europe but again I felt Mcginn was pulling that side through at times and losing him, ultimately, was what cost him his job and results to dive off a cliff edge
We've then spent the next 2/3 years recovering from that period.
A good motivator of someone else's talent but found out when he has to make his own way
Sorry, but I'm always angered when I see this nonsense that we huffed and puffed to mid-table and didn't start playing until January.
We won 1-0 at Partick Thistle on 2nd December and we were 3rd in table (one point off 2nd). We hadn't lost away from home yet either.
Our record was W8 D5 L3 in the league.
If you're going to argue something then make sure your facts are straight.
Rumble de Thump
29-11-2020, 05:54 PM
No blue tick but 8k followers on a 6 year old account. What am I missing (genuine question as don’t want to share rubbish)
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There's no sports journalist by that name and, therefore, no articles written by them. An account with a similar name was deleted by Twitter a while ago. Journalists also don't mention that they have lots of contacts in their social media bios. They also don't tend to put what subject matter they report on in their social media names.
Iggy Pope
29-11-2020, 05:55 PM
We still finished higher in those two seasons compared to where we were under Lennon in his final season though. Heckingbottom steadied the ship and tookk us up the league in the remainder of that season.
We're splitting hairs here, as we're both correct in what we're saying, it's just a choice of how it's interpreteded.
Agreed my Northern friend. All in all, it’s a thread with not much of a point to it really, certainly not constructive.
calumhibee1
29-11-2020, 05:55 PM
Except the game he started the two of them up front, we didn’t get beat. And it was at ER.
The player benched, Kamberi, came of the bench and missed a penalty.
General point I get, it was a strange selection.
Apologies, I’m merging the two games together with the one at Almondvale.
Point still stands though. Willing to give us little chance of winning a game so he can say I told you so.
SaulGoodman
29-11-2020, 05:56 PM
These “fans” have watched their team win every trophy in Scotland for the last 4 years and are now rioting because they’ve had a bad few months 😂😂
B.H.F.C
29-11-2020, 05:58 PM
Sorry, but I'm always angered when I see this nonsense that we huffed and puffed to mid-table and didn't start playing until January.
We won 1-0 at Partick Thistle on 2nd December and we were 3rd in table (one point off 2nd). We hadn't lost away from home yet either.
Our record was W8 D5 L3 in the league.
If you're going to argue something then make sure your facts are straight.
Agree with this. We’d won at Ibrox, beat Hearts and had a couple of good results against Celtic who were still inbeaten domestically at that point.
First half of that season wasn’t bad at all.
Sir David Gray
29-11-2020, 05:59 PM
Kicking off big-style outside Celtic Park.
They are not happy.
Police attending in numbers and in riot gear.
Source: Dude who is literally standing in the middle of it.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1333109883483418630
They're a self entitled bunch aren't they?
They've had things pretty much their own way for basically the last 10 years and then all of a sudden there's a little pressure from Rangers and the toys come out the pram and they're fighting with the police.
It's a pity that a team equally as odious as them is likely to be the ones to benefit from their misfortune but **** them.
calumhibee1
29-11-2020, 06:04 PM
They're a self entitled bunch aren't they?
They've had things pretty much their own way for basically the last 10 years and then all of a sudden there's a little pressure from Rangers and the toys come out the pram and they're fighting with the police.
It's a pity that a team equally as odious as them is likely to be the ones to benefit from their misfortune but **** them.
To be fair if they want to have any chance of winning an unprecedented? (I think?) 10 in a row then they need to make a change right now and even then it may be too late. I don’t blame them for trying to force the boards hand.
Of course at a time like this it’s not a clever way of doing it.
Chorley Hibee
29-11-2020, 06:04 PM
Agree with this. We’d won at Ibrox, beat Hearts and had a couple of good results against Celtic who were still inbeaten domestically at that point.
First half of that season wasn’t bad at all.
We were never below 4th from the 12th game of the season and spent the rest of the season either 3rd or 4th.
Making out the season was crap prior to January is complete revisionism.
calumhibee1
29-11-2020, 06:05 PM
We were never below 4th from the 12th game of the season and spent the rest of the season either 3rd or 4th.
Making out the season was crap prior to January is complete revisionism.
:agree:
It certainly wasn’t crap. We’d done alright the first half of that season.
Willis1875
29-11-2020, 06:05 PM
Wonder if there will be a big media campaign to catch the perpetrators outside Celtic park by the likes of English and Jackson like there was in 2016,faces plastered in newspapers etc etc
calumhibee1
29-11-2020, 06:06 PM
Wonder if there will be a big media campaign to catch the perpetrators outside Celtic park by the likes of English and Jackson like there was in 2016,faces plastered in newspapers etc etc
😂
Brightside
29-11-2020, 06:07 PM
Wonder if there will be a big media campaign to catch the perpetrators outside Celtic park by the likes of English and Jackson like there was in 2016,faces plastered in newspapers etc etc
I hope they do get charged for that btw. Disgusting stuff.
HoboHarry
29-11-2020, 06:08 PM
These “fans” have watched their team win every trophy in Scotland for the last 4 years and are now rioting because they’ve had a bad few months 😂😂
In fairness, they should have stayed at the top of the pile with some ease but they've regresses badly.
Hakim Sar
29-11-2020, 06:09 PM
Are we really counting the championship as a trophy? Yikes.
Record points isn't really true. Its the record in 3 points for a win. Kilmarnock equaled that tally a year later with half the budget.
He told his staff not to celebrate Hibs goals against celtic. That to me is embarrassing.
Ah was that silver thing they were passing about just the foil that was wrapped around the post match sannies? He would have been vilified if he hadn’t won it though wouldn’t he? Therefore I’ll give him pass marks for that one.
I’ll stand by my views. Decent manager. Achieved a couple of things with us. I quite liked him and enjoyed the period he was our manager. The ending was unusual and weird. I hold more positive views than negative.
B.H.F.C
29-11-2020, 06:10 PM
These “fans” have watched their team win every trophy in Scotland for the last 4 years and are now rioting because they’ve had a bad few months 😂😂
They’re mental.
Seen folk talking about how hard it is being a Celtic fan and pish like that!
The 90+2
29-11-2020, 06:11 PM
They’re mental.
Seen folk talking about how hard it is being a Celtic fan and pish like that!
That’s what happens when you’re a glory hunting bassa 👍
Smartie
29-11-2020, 06:12 PM
In terms of the big stuff, Lennon did fine.
Got us up, job done. Good 1st season back up, magnificent in places.
The big negative with Lennon - he didn't make a great start on the difficult but inevitable rebuilding job. That frustrated him and led to him doing some daft stuff. Who knows how he might have got on over time, who knows he might have got on even just with the arrivals of Omeonga and McNulty, which happened just after he left?
I couldn't care what he says to people about celebrating goals against Celtic whilst he has us scoring goals and playing as well as we generally did against them.
There's a lot of small stuff that can be chucked at Neil Lennon from his time at Hibs but that's all it is - small stuff.
Whilst I enjoy Celtic pain, there's a bit of me that feels for a guy that I liked whilst at Hibs and who I thought did his best for us.
And whilst I am no fan of Celtic, I'd rather it was Rangers in dire straits, every day of the week.
weecounty hibby
29-11-2020, 06:13 PM
They’re mental.
Seen folk talking about how hard it is being a Celtic fan and pish like that!
They are a bunch of self entitled ******s. Never easy being a celtic fan apparently. Won every trophy available for the last four years but never easy. Dicks
Newry Hibs
29-11-2020, 06:16 PM
They are a bunch of self entitled ******s. Never easy being a celtic fan apparently. Won every trophy available for the last four years but never easy. Dicks
They're probably just the guys who went early with the 10 in a row tattoos.
Alfred E Newman
29-11-2020, 06:18 PM
They’re mental.
Seen folk talking about how hard it is being a Celtic fan and pish like that!
They are spoilt brats, stuck in a little world of their own. They haven't a clue what it's like, and how enjoyable it is, to follow a proper football team.
Hakim Sar
29-11-2020, 06:23 PM
In terms of the big stuff, Lennon did fine.
Got us up, job done. Good 1st season back up, magnificent in places.
The big negative with Lennon - he didn't make a great start on the difficult but inevitable rebuilding job. That frustrated him and led to him doing some daft stuff. Who knows how he might have got on over time, who knows he might have got on even just with the arrivals of Omeonga and McNulty, which happened just after he left?
I couldn't care what he says to people about celebrating goals against Celtic whilst he has us scoring goals and playing as well as we generally did against them.
There's a lot of small stuff that can be chucked at Neil Lennon from his time at Hibs but that's all it is - small stuff.
Whilst I enjoy Celtic pain, there's a bit of me that feels for a guy that I liked whilst at Hibs and who I thought did his best for us.
And whilst I am no fan of Celtic, I'd rather it was Rangers in dire straits, every day of the week.
Finally some common sense. The sentiments I was trying to get across exactly.
Scorrie
29-11-2020, 06:25 PM
They are spoilt brats, stuck in a little world of their own. They haven't a clue what it's like, and how enjoyable it is, to follow a proper football team.
Sutton has just come out and called them “ self entitled arses”!
B.H.F.C
29-11-2020, 06:27 PM
In terms of the big stuff, Lennon did fine.
Got us up, job done. Good 1st season back up, magnificent in places.
The big negative with Lennon - he didn't make a great start on the difficult but inevitable rebuilding job. That frustrated him and led to him doing some daft stuff. Who knows how he might have got on over time, who knows he might have got on even just with the arrivals of Omeonga and McNulty, which happened just after he left?
I couldn't care what he says to people about celebrating goals against Celtic whilst he has us scoring goals and playing as well as we generally did against them.
There's a lot of small stuff that can be chucked at Neil Lennon from his time at Hibs but that's all it is - small stuff.
Whilst I enjoy Celtic pain, there's a bit of me that feels for a guy that I liked whilst at Hibs and who I thought did his best for us.
And whilst I am no fan of Celtic, I'd rather it was Rangers in dire straits, every day of the week.
Omeonga made his debut in Lennon’s last game. I think McNulty was a done deal before his departure as well. Remember McNulty saying he’d spoken with Lennon etc.
bigwheel
29-11-2020, 06:28 PM
Omeonga made his debut in Lennon’s last game. I think McNulty was a done deal before his departure as well. Remember McNulty saying he’d spoken with Lennon etc.
He had. But the deal went cold when Lennon left - was reignited at the last moments ....
Smartie
29-11-2020, 06:35 PM
Omeonga made his debut in Lennon’s last game. I think McNulty was a done deal before his departure as well. Remember McNulty saying he’d spoken with Lennon etc.
Omeonga was a million miles off being fit in that game though (in fairness, I had totally forgotten about that).
Lennon was screaming out for those players though. He needed them badly.
Heckingbottom got them, and rather than Heckingbottom doing anything special himself, those 2 players made the team play miles better after Lennon had left.
calumhibee1
29-11-2020, 06:40 PM
Omeonga was a million miles off being fit in that game though (in fairness, I had totally forgotten about that).
Lennon was screaming out for those players though. He needed them badly.
Heckingbottom got them, and rather than Heckingbottom doing anything special himself, those 2 players made the team play miles better after Lennon had left.
Omeonga didn’t start for a good while under Heckingbottom from what I remember?
ABZHFC
29-11-2020, 06:44 PM
Horrible, self-entitled, glory hunting Weegie *******s. They lap up their 'club no like other' pish that is spoon-fed to them by their Conservative, PLC board, and then greet when they realise they are in fact a club like every other (a business, no less).
I'll take no joy from der Hun winning the league if and when it happens, but their pain will at least be some consolation. ********s
SaulGoodman
29-11-2020, 06:47 PM
There’s so many Celtic fans protesting up at Parkhead that I’ve Ross County them
jeffers
29-11-2020, 06:49 PM
There’s so many Celtic fans protesting up at Parkhead that I’ve Ross County them
:thumbsup:
Chuck Rhoades
29-11-2020, 06:50 PM
There’s so many Celtic fans protesting up at Parkhead that I’ve Ross County them
Shamelessly stolen off a currant bun.
SaulGoodman
29-11-2020, 06:52 PM
Shamelessly stolen off a currant bun.
It’s funny, does it matter where it’s came from?😂
gbhibby
29-11-2020, 06:55 PM
Who cares? The bigot brothers think they have the divine right to win everything.
ancient hibee
29-11-2020, 07:04 PM
Horrible, self-entitled, glory hunting Weegie *******s. They lap up their 'club no like other' pish that is spoon-fed to them by their Conservative, PLC board, and then greet when they realise they are in fact a club like every other (a business, no less).
I'll take no joy from der Hun winning the league if and when it happens, but their pain will at least be some consolation. ********s
Don't think Brian Wilson would have liked to be called Conservative.
Alfred E Newman
29-11-2020, 07:08 PM
The real sad part is the fact that we will all suffer for the actions of these clowns. Its the last thing Scottish football needs, especially at this time and it has probably scuppered any chance of crowds returning any time soon.
mcohibs
29-11-2020, 07:10 PM
Shamelessly stolen off a currant bun.
Imagine a joke being used more than once!
Northernhibee
29-11-2020, 07:40 PM
The real sad part is the fact that we will all suffer for the actions of these clowns. Its the last thing Scottish football needs, especially at this time and it has probably scuppered any chance of crowds returning any time soon.
I'm as angry watching that as when Rangers fans ripped Manchester apart. All the business owners knowing that more of tier 4 will close their businesses, their staff wondering if they have jobs, the people who supply those businesses not knowing if they'll have a customer base.
I've not seen my gran since February. She's 91, lives in the middle of arse end nowhere and is fairly frail. She had a fall recently and fractured her arm. I'm desperate to see her but as another family member cares for her I dare not risk going out and potentially killing her. My partner works in a hospital and there are nurses around the country who have died helping to fight this virus. They do not complain, they work on and do their bit.
These people are baring their ***** to all of them and us because their team lost a football game. **** them. It's absolutely destructive. Absolute ***** of the highest order rioting out there now. ****.
Newry Hibs
29-11-2020, 08:02 PM
I'm as angry watching that as when Rangers fans ripped Manchester apart. All the business owners knowing that more of tier 4 will close their businesses, their staff wondering if they have jobs, the people who supply those businesses not knowing if they'll have a customer base.
I've not seen my gran since February. She's 91, lives in the middle of arse end nowhere and is fairly frail. She had a fall recently and fractured her arm. I'm desperate to see her but as another family member cares for her I dare not risk going out and potentially killing her. My partner works in a hospital and there are nurses around the country who have died helping to fight this virus. They do not complain, they work on and do their bit.
These people are baring their ***** to all of them and us because their team lost a football game. **** them. It's absolutely destructive. Absolute ***** of the highest order rioting out there now. ****.
Just go and see her. You dont have to have close contact. It sounds like it would do you both the world of good.
Smartie
29-11-2020, 08:11 PM
Anyone know where I can find the podcast where Lewis Stevenson talks about Neil Lennon?
I just listened to the full "Did Ye Aye" one and there was no mention.
Has it been edited out for some reason.
btw - it is a brilliant listen, for anyone who hasn't listened to it yet.
https://www.spreaker.com/user/didyeayepodcast/lewis-stevenson-part-1
bigwheel
29-11-2020, 08:16 PM
Anyone know where I can find the podcast where Lewis Stevenson talks about Neil Lennon?
I just listened to the full "Did Ye Aye" one and there was no mention.
Has it been edited out for some reason.
btw - it is a brilliant listen, for anyone who hasn't listened to it yet.
https://www.spreaker.com/user/didyeayepodcast/lewis-stevenson-part-1
Did you listen to both parts ?
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Alex Trager
29-11-2020, 08:25 PM
With the joke on his then current employer. He was very unprofessional. That was my biggest problem with him and the insight Lewis gave in his interview proved what many thought. He didn't bother with tactics. My gut says he is very like many managers and puts people in the team that he likes and ones that bow to his supposed superiority. He isn't a leader rather someone who uses his title and force to have authority. He may be a decent short term fix but clearing up after him will be more miserable than whatever short party you enjoyed.
What interview did Lewis give?
Alex Trager
29-11-2020, 08:27 PM
Aye fair point, will look daft if untrue though, not that he will give a ****.
Given the result and reaction of the lunatic section of their fanbase, he is gone.
Kennedy will get the job full time.
I would be shocked if Kennedy got the job like. Celtic fans want a big name
allmodcons
29-11-2020, 08:44 PM
In terms of the big stuff, Lennon did fine.
Got us up, job done. Good 1st season back up, magnificent in places.
The big negative with Lennon - he didn't make a great start on the difficult but inevitable rebuilding job. That frustrated him and led to him doing some daft stuff. Who knows how he might have got on over time, who knows he might have got on even just with the arrivals of Omeonga and McNulty, which happened just after he left?
I couldn't care what he says to people about celebrating goals against Celtic whilst he has us scoring goals and playing as well as we generally did against them.
There's a lot of small stuff that can be chucked at Neil Lennon from his time at Hibs but that's all it is - small stuff.
Whilst I enjoy Celtic pain, there's a bit of me that feels for a guy that I liked whilst at Hibs and who I thought did his best for us.
And whilst I am no fan of Celtic, I'd rather it was Rangers in dire straits, every day of the week.
A good post. I just don't get all the hatred that's thrown at a former Club manager who did a decent job for us. John MCGinn is a Celtic fan but I don't hate him for that. He too gave his all for us against the team he supports.
calumhibee1
29-11-2020, 08:46 PM
What interview did Lewis give?
It was in quite an obscure podcast, I heard it on Facebook via one of the fans group pages.
I honestly couldn’t for the life of me remember the name of it now though.
w pilton hibby
29-11-2020, 08:54 PM
What interview did Lewis give?
Think this is what was meant
https://www.spreaker.com/user/didyeayepodcast/lewis-stevenson-part-1
There are two separate parts
FilipinoHibs
29-11-2020, 08:55 PM
A good post. I just don't get all the hatred that's thrown at a former Club manager who did a decent job for us. John MCGinn is a Celtic fan but I don't hate him for that. He too gave his all for us against the team he supports.
Don't hate him but he essentially had one good half season when we were blessed with Stubbs midfield reunited - even then blew it at the end. Lacked man management and tactics ( was dependent on his assistant for that and fell out with the last one at Hibs). His public antics embarrassed himself and the club.
I am enjoying Celtic's meltdown. They have had nine years gloating at their ugly Glasgow brother. The gloating of 10 in a row would be unbearable. I support a united Ireland but no time for both of them.
Magpie
29-11-2020, 08:55 PM
A good post. I just don't get all the hatred that's thrown at a former Club manager who did a decent job for us. John MCGinn is a Celtic fan but I don't hate him for that. He too gave his all for us against the team he supports.
A lot of people seem to have a personal vendetta against Lennon, not sure why personally. He’s living rent free in a lot of heads.
blackpoolhibs
29-11-2020, 09:06 PM
A lot of people seem to have a personal vendetta against Lennon, not sure why personally. He’s living rent free in a lot of heads.
It's hilarious seeing the usual suspects fighting to get in with the biggest insult they can think of within seconds of a bad result. 😂😂😂
PolmontHibby
29-11-2020, 09:29 PM
24 hour police guard on home
Bullets in post
Websites set up to say he should be killed
Explosive devices in post intercepted
Stopped playing for NI due to death threats
Beaten unconscious outside a pub
Attacked inside a football stadium
....and now under attack/abuse from Celtic supporters
Absolute disgrace that this should happen to any individual
calumhibee1
29-11-2020, 09:36 PM
It's hilarious seeing the usual suspects fighting to get in with the biggest insult they can think of within seconds of a bad result. 😂😂😂
It’s even more hilarious seeing the fans of Lennon FC getting really wound up at the fact Lennon has done the exact same thing he done to us and turned Celtic into an utter shambles from a position of great strength when he took over. Best manager ever though. Born winner.
Hibs fans that are gagging to jump to the defence of the Celtic manager 😂
I think most of us will continue to revel in either half of the bigot brothers making an absolute arse of themselves.
hibbysam
29-11-2020, 09:37 PM
24 hour police guard on home
Bullets in post
Websites set up to say he should be killed
Explosive devices in post intercepted
Stopped playing for NI due to death threats
Beaten unconscious outside a pub
Attacked inside a football stadium
....and now under attack/abuse from Celtic supporters
Absolute disgrace that this should happen to any individual
Does that mean nobody can criticise and laugh when he goes through a bad spell on the pitch? He was decent for us, nothing more, nothing less. He took us for a ride in the end clearly knowing the Celtic gig was on the horizon. He left us in a far worse state than when he took over also. He’s also the Celtic manager and apart from when they play hearts in the cup final, I hope they get pumped every week, arrogant, self entitled tossers.
Since452
29-11-2020, 09:39 PM
Wonder if Lennon will be allowed to try and beat his 2 wins in 17 he managed before departing the Hibs job. It's going the same way. Imagine the uproar on here if Jack Ross had that record
PolmontHibby
29-11-2020, 09:49 PM
Does that mean nobody can criticise and laugh when he goes through a bad spell on the pitch? He was decent for us, nothing more, nothing less. He took us for a ride in the end clearly knowing the Celtic gig was on the horizon. He left us in a far worse state than when he took over also. He’s also the Celtic manager and apart from when they play hearts in the cup final, I hope they get pumped every week, arrogant, self entitled tossers.
He did what he should have did with Hibs - got us up when we were favourites and had a decent season after that.
Nothing more nothing less in my opinion for his record at Hibs.
My point stands - an absolute disgrace that he (or anyone else) has gone through what he has endured.
What is your argument against this?
hibbysam
29-11-2020, 09:50 PM
He did what he should have did with Hibs - got us up when we were favourites and had a decent season after that.
Nothing more nothing less in my opinion for his record at Hibs.
My point stands - an absolute disgrace that he (or anyone else) has gone through what he has endured.
What is your argument against this?
There’s not an argument against it, I’m just struggling to understand what context it has in the arguments put forward tonight.
calumhibee1
29-11-2020, 09:56 PM
Wonder if Lennon will be allowed to try and beat his 2 wins in 17 he managed before departing the Hibs job. It's going the same way. Imagine the uproar on here if Jack Ross had that record
Jack Ross isn’t a born winner though. He’s also not the best manager we’ve ever had or ever will have.
Be careful what you wish for. God knows how you could expect better than 2 wins in 17.
PolmontHibby
29-11-2020, 09:58 PM
There’s not an argument against it, I’m just struggling to understand what context it has in the arguments put forward tonight.
Seems like we are in agreement.
i gave an opinion on abuse Neil Lennon has received on a Neil Lennon title thread - maybe the revolting celtic thread would have been the correct one.
Smartie
29-11-2020, 10:00 PM
Did you listen to both parts ?
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2 parts you say?
Thought it ended unusually...
The 90+2
29-11-2020, 10:04 PM
Seems like we are in agreement.
i gave an opinion on abuse Neil Lennon has received on a Neil Lennon title thread - maybe the revolting celtic thread would have been the correct one.
He doesn’t care about Hibs. He is a ***** manager and a bully. Ask his ex.
CentreLine
29-11-2020, 10:09 PM
24 hour police guard on home
Bullets in post
Websites set up to say he should be killed
Explosive devices in post intercepted
Stopped playing for NI due to death threats
Beaten unconscious outside a pub
Attacked inside a football stadium
....and now under attack/abuse from Celtic supporters
Absolute disgrace that this should happen to any individual
Absolutely agree and yet there are people who hide behind “he brought it on himself”. Unbelievable!!
However, I don’t think anyone on here has ever indulged in or condoned any of that behaviour and there are certainly good grounds for criticism of his tenure with us. For what it’s worth, I will always be grateful to NL for his banishing the “boys band” attitude and instilling some grit in to his squad. For a season and a half I enjoyed everything about our style, attitude and entertainment.
I thought he threw in the towel with his post hearts match interview and he never seemed interested from that day forward. Things crumbled around him, the team on the park showed no guts or urgency and I was glad to see him go. I’m not that fussed about Celtic but from what I have seen of their displays on the park there seem to be a lot of parallels with what happened here.
Snedz
29-11-2020, 10:10 PM
If and its now a big IF whether he will take charge of the SC final, he'd damn well better have his team up for it and prepared to roast the jambos. Same with his potential successor if he's pumped out. That Ross County defeat today doesn't augur well and they'd better improve quickly. I know the 'famous' are dug s"%"e but they seem to raise their game against Premier clubs like ourselves and Celtic.
Biggie
29-11-2020, 10:18 PM
Lennon should only have been in with celtic for the half season, to secure the cup and 9 in a row.
Any manager would be on to a hiding for nothing trying to secure 10iar....who needs that stress in their life ?
Maybe lennon fancied it, and celtic thought they could nick it on the cheap?
I think lennons signings have been poor, losing the big laddie who was in goals for them, for what was basically our reserve goalie beggars belief and re enforces the biscuit tin mentality.
Other signings are not at the level required, broony is ageing, griff it seems is out of favour, despite probably their 2nd best hitman.
Seems lennon is no guardiola, so with ageing players and sub standard signings, its falling apart.
Screaming at players isn't going to work these days, and let's face it, many of the celtic lads couldn't give a **** about 10iar, for them its a short term gig.
They'll move on.
Lennon has been found out....and all the good work he's done prior to now is forgotten.
He'll be remembered as the guy that ****ed up the 10....thats all that matters to that mob.
No tears from me, particularly if the comments he made about us are true.....just a pity its rangers who are going to benefit.
Biggie
29-11-2020, 10:19 PM
If and its now a big IF whether he will take charge of the SC final, he'd damn well better have his team up for it and prepared to roast the jambos. Same with his potential successor if he's pumped out. That Ross County defeat today doesn't augur well and they'd better improve quickly. I know the 'famous' are dug s"%"e but they seem to raise their game against Premier clubs like ourselves and Celtic.
Amen to that !
hibbysam
29-11-2020, 10:28 PM
Lennon should only have been in with celtic for the half season, to secure the cup and 9 in a row.
Any manager would be on to a hiding for nothing trying to secure 10iar....who needs that stress in their life ?
Maybe lennon fancied it, and celtic thought they could nick it on the cheap?
I think lennons signings have been poor, losing the big laddie who was in goals for them, for what was basically our reserve goalie beggars belief and re enforces the biscuit tin mentality.
Other signings are not at the level required, broony is ageing, griff it seems is out of favour, despite probably their 2nd best hitman.
Seems lennon is no guardiola, so with ageing players and sub standard signings, its falling apart.
Screaming at players isn't going to work these days, and let's face it, many of the celtic lads couldn't give a **** about 10iar, for them its a short term gig.
They'll move on.
Lennon has been found out....and all the good work he's done prior to now is forgotten.
He'll be remembered as the guy that ****ed up the 10....thats all that matters to that mob.
No tears from me, particularly if the comments he made about us are true.....just a pity its rangers who are going to benefit.
The small part of a season he took over from Rodgers only secured their 8th title. He won their 9th during 3/4 of a season last year.
Sir David Gray
29-11-2020, 10:35 PM
Two police officers injured tonight, absolutely pathetic.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-55125191
King Cosell
29-11-2020, 11:03 PM
I would be shocked if Kennedy got the job like. Celtic fans want a big name
Attractive job in the summer, but they they won't get a big name now. Not winning the title will be seen as a massive failure, Rangers are 1/4 favourites.
Don't hate him but he essentially had one good half season when we were blessed with Stubbs midfield reunited - even then blew it at the end. Lacked man management and tactics ( was dependent on his assistant for that and fell out with the last one at Hibs). His public antics embarrassed himself and the club.
I am enjoying Celtic's meltdown. They have had nine years gloating at their ugly Glasgow brother. The gloating of 10 in a row would be unbearable. I support a united Ireland but no time for both of them.
Your first sentence is a
disgraceful comment. To even think ever thinking about hating a Hibs manager.
Look we have some poor ones but to even contemplating hating them is way out of order.
SJNB Hibby
30-11-2020, 12:38 AM
Attractive job in the summer, but they they won't get a big name now. Not winning the title will be seen as a massive failure, Rangers are 1/4 favourites.
Funny nobody's mentioned Broony
Duke of Currie
30-11-2020, 06:02 AM
Funny nobody's mentioned Broony
Appreciate you shouldn't talk about replacements while someone is still in a job , but did a check on the favourites for the role and once you look beyond anyone who has played for Celtic or previously managed Celtic , there are only a few names in the hat which is surprising for a club of this size
JimBHibees
30-11-2020, 06:13 AM
These “fans” have watched their team win every trophy in Scotland for the last 4 years and are now rioting because they’ve had a bad few months 😂😂
Absolutely laughable. Self entitled doesn't cover it. Obviously a few prominent ten in a row tattoos being scraped off with a potato peeler this morning. :greengrin
Brightside
30-11-2020, 06:46 AM
Howe the only available candidate worth considering
Viva_Palmeiras
30-11-2020, 06:48 AM
I would be shocked if Kennedy got the job like. Celtic fans want a big name
Not many than the bookies Quoted jan. Vennegoor of Hesslink ;)
The Spaceman
30-11-2020, 06:52 AM
It’s a pretty entertaining situation (rioting aside) - if Celtic get 10IAR, the meltdown in Govan will be off the charts. If Celtic fail to achieve 10IAR at the very last hurdle, the meltdown in Parkhead will be off the charts. It really has turned into a win-win for all of us “minnows”.
Sir David Gray
30-11-2020, 07:00 AM
It’s a pretty entertaining situation (rioting aside) - if Celtic get 10IAR, the meltdown in Govan will be off the charts. If Celtic fail to achieve 10IAR at the very last hurdle, the meltdown in Parkhead will be off the charts. It really has turned into a win-win for all of us “minnows”.
:agree: If Rangers don't win the league from the position they are in it will be hilarious too.
Viva_Palmeiras
30-11-2020, 07:10 AM
:agree: If Rangers don't win the league from the position they are in it will be hilarious too.
Or if the League was abandoned and had to start all over thus breaking the 10IAR or necessitating a double- asterisk.
bingo70
30-11-2020, 07:18 AM
Howe the only available candidate worth considering
Wouldn’t be a good appointment imo.
Different managers are good at different things. He’s proven to be a good manager for the underdog playing against teams many x their resources. I don’t know much about how Bournemouth played so happy to be corrected if I’m wrong but I’d guess a lot of that was down to defending well and hitting teams on the counter attack. That’s no use for Celtic.
Also takes a different mentality to be a regular winner of competitions and I don’t think he’s ever win anything as a manager has he?
I think they’ll go for someone high profile and expensive (not that Howe isn’t those things). What is Rafa Benitez up to these days? If he’s without a job wouldn’t surprise me seeing them go for him.
we are hibs
30-11-2020, 07:32 AM
They wont take a gamble now and will be O'Neill/Strachan until the end of the season which also wont work as they are both dinosaurs like Lennon.
calumhibee1
30-11-2020, 07:45 AM
Wouldn’t be a good appointment imo.
Different managers are good at different things. He’s proven to be a good manager for the underdog playing against teams many x their resources. I don’t know much about how Bournemouth played so happy to be corrected if I’m wrong but I’d guess a lot of that was down to defending well and hitting teams on the counter attack. That’s no use for Celtic.
Also takes a different mentality to be a regular winner of competitions and I don’t think he’s ever win anything as a manager has he?
I think they’ll go for someone high profile and expensive (not that Howe isn’t those things). What is Rafa Benitez up to these days? If he’s without a job wouldn’t surprise me seeing them go for him.
I know it’s not the same level but did he not get 3 promotions with Bournemouth? That must have taken a lot of winning most weeks.
I get your general point though.
Benitez is at a Chinese team so I’d doubt they could afford him unless he was pushing to get back to Europe.
Brightside
30-11-2020, 07:48 AM
Wouldn’t be a good appointment imo.
Different managers are good at different things. He’s proven to be a good manager for the underdog playing against teams many x their resources. I don’t know much about how Bournemouth played so happy to be corrected if I’m wrong but I’d guess a lot of that was down to defending well and hitting teams on the counter attack. That’s no use for Celtic.
Also takes a different mentality to be a regular winner of competitions and I don’t think he’s ever win anything as a manager has he?
I think they’ll go for someone high profile and expensive (not that Howe isn’t those things). What is Rafa Benitez up to these days? If he’s without a job wouldn’t surprise me seeing them go for him.
I think Howe would need to change the team quite a bit. He likes a 442 with 2 CMs that are both box to box. Brown would be one of the first to go.
Radium
30-11-2020, 07:48 AM
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GreenCastle
30-11-2020, 08:10 AM
Celtic fans know they are in trouble and have been for weeks.
Losing the Glasgow derby and several games since has made it near impossible for Lennon to turn this around.
Poor recruitment and the early carry on of the Bolingoli situation hasn’t helped as they ply constant catch up.
I keep asking who would be a suitable replacement - it’s tricky as it’s a really high pressure situation to come in and rescue their season. I just hope Celtic don’t wait till after Scottish Cup final to make a change. I wouldn’t trust them to win that right now.
But a short term fix is very risky for anyone coming in mid season. If they turnaround the season..instant hero.
If they lose the league (possible treble to Rangers) then they would be out at the end of the season anyway.
The protests and trouble will keep worse as long as Lennon is still manager. Imagine the scenes at the end of the season when the league is lost..would stay well clear of Glasgow !
Anyway..I enjoyed many Lennon games at Hibs but he definitely lost his way but felt we always had a good chance with him and definitely felt we weren’t a soft touch. I never thought going to Celtic was a good move for him but he obviously thought he could win the 9 and 10 titles - but that’s backfired.
Ronniekirk
30-11-2020, 08:30 AM
Celtic fans know they are in trouble and have been for weeks.
Losing the Glasgow derby and several games since has made it near impossible for Lennon to turn this around.
Poor recruitment and the early carry on of the Bolingoli situation hasn’t helped as they ply constant catch up.
I keep asking who would be a suitable replacement - it’s tricky as it’s a really high pressure situation to come in and rescue their season. I just hope Celtic don’t wait till after Scottish Cup final to make a change. I wouldn’t trust them to win that right now.
But a short term fix is very risky for anyone coming in mid season. If they turnaround the season..instant hero.
If they lose the league (possible treble to Rangers) then they would be out at the end of the season anyway.
The protests and trouble will keep worse as long as Lennon is still manager. Imagine the scenes at the end of the season when the league is lost..would stay well clear of Glasgow !
Anyway..I enjoyed many Lennon games at Hibs but he definitely lost his way but felt we always had a good chance with him and definitely felt we weren’t a soft touch. I never thought going to Celtic was a good move for him but he obviously thought he could win the 9 and 10 titles - but that’s backfired.
It’s as clear as day he has lost the dressing room The players aren’t responding and the Biard giving him a vote of confidence maybe aided the players lethargy and insipid performance
He had lost his way with us when he was slagging players off in public as his only tool to try and motivate them
He looks stressed and needs removed
The Board took the cheap option and are now paying the price
Gerrard has been patient and slowly but up a stronger squad each season A few key signings in January should see them in with a real chance of winning the treble depending on how Celtic respond
But some of the players brought in do t look good enough so any new manager will need to forget 10 in. Row and start rebuilding g fir next season imo
Lennon was a safe pair of hands to get them over the line last season , but they should of been ruthless and shown more ambition They weren’t and are now paying the price
Credit has to go to Gerrard if he can keep current firm going
They have always lost there way over festive period and into January so he needs to show he can prevent that happening
The Board will no doubt back him in the transfer window to ensure they capitalise on Celtic’s frailties and mistakes
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Keith_M
30-11-2020, 08:40 AM
I realise Celtc are on a really poor run but I think the desperation among their supporters is compounded by how well their rivals are doing.
As much as I hate them, you can't deny that having only dropped 4 points and conceded three goals in league games is incredible form.
It's early days, but it really looks like we're about to go from a Celtc team that wins everything to a (The) Rangers team doing the same. Depressing stuff, really.
The Modfather
30-11-2020, 08:43 AM
I think Howe would need to change the team quite a bit. He likes a 442 with 2 CMs that are both box to box. Brown would be one of the first to go.
I wonder if Howe would come in for some of the all rounder central midfielders we have that can play in a two :duck:
Carheenlea
30-11-2020, 08:47 AM
Despite the manner it all ended I enjoyed having Neil Lennon as our manager. It was a real surprise we were able to hire him, and left us with some great memories from his time. Liked him as a man and still do, and feel for him right now while he is in the firing line and thousands of those who would claim him to be one of their own stick the knife in.
Wouldn’t be a surprise if he called time on it himself and walks away.
Lancs Harp
30-11-2020, 08:52 AM
I think Rangers will win the title this year regardless of who is in charge at Celtic. They simply have a better team and its going to take more than a managerial change and 1 transfer window to change that. Celtic need a rebuild.
I'm quite happy, well indifferent really, to see Celtic fail in their quest for ten in a row. Perhaps my perfect storm of an outcome would be Rangers win the title, stop Celtics 10 in a row and then go bust again :greengrin
Brightside
30-11-2020, 08:57 AM
I wonder if Howe would come in for some of the all rounder central midfielders we have that can play in a two :duck:
Jan bid for Mallan.
Since90+2
30-11-2020, 08:58 AM
I realise Celtc are on a really poor run but I think the desperation among their supporters is compounded by how well their rivals are doing.
As much as I hate them, you can't deny that having only dropped 4 points and conceded three goals in league games is incredible form.
It's early days, but it really looks like we're about to go from a Celtc team that wins everything to a (The) Rangers team doing the same. Depressing stuff, really.
As soon as Gerrard leaves Rangers will go back down a level and that's likely to be next summer. He seems to be a very good coach.
calumhibee1
30-11-2020, 09:09 AM
I think Rangers will win the title this year regardless of who is in charge at Celtic. They simply have a better team and its going to take more than a managerial change and 1 transfer window to change that. Celtic need a rebuild.
I'm quite happy, well indifferent really, to see Celtic fail in their quest for ten in a row. Perhaps my perfect storm of an outcome would be Rangers win the title, stop Celtics 10 in a row and then go bust again :greengrin
Likewise. The squad Lennon has built is so poor that I can’t see anyone coming in and catching a very good Rangers side. In a combined 11 I reckon there would be at least 7 or 8 Rangers players in it
Smartie
30-11-2020, 09:12 AM
Celtic have some great players but they have some obvious weaknesses that need addressed asap.
I think they've got better players than Rangers but are a much poorer team. A managerial change and 2-3 good players and I think Celtic would wipe the floor with Rangers tbh.
You could probably say the same for Rangers but they're already all-in - they can't get another 2-3 players.
Serious questions need to be asked about how Celtic allowed themselves to end up here - complacency on that level shouldn't be tolerated.
GreenCastle
30-11-2020, 09:13 AM
As soon as Gerrard leaves Rangers will go back down a level and that's likely to be next summer. He seems to be a very good coach.
I think if Gerrard wins the league (his to lose now!) he will then leave. If he loses league he will be hounded out.
He will be remembered as the guy who stopped the 10 and a hero. He could easily win the treble this year too.
He will head down south - possibly to somewhere like Newcastle ? He will take his coach Michael Beale with him who is a massive part of why Rangers play so well at times. Very good coach.
Celtic fans would rather win league than the Scottish Cup / League Cup / Europa League (qualification / tournament). They are obsessed with the 10.
jacomo
30-11-2020, 09:13 AM
It’s as clear as day he has lost the dressing room The players aren’t responding and the Biard giving him a vote of confidence maybe aided the players lethargy and insipid performance
He had lost his way with us when he was slagging players off in public as his only tool to try and motivate them
He looks stressed and needs removed
The Board took the cheap option and are now paying the price
Gerrard has been patient and slowly but up a stronger squad each season A few key signings in January should see them in with a real chance of winning the treble depending on how Celtic respond
But some of the players brought in do t look good enough so any new manager will need to forget 10 in. Row and start rebuilding g fir next season imo
Lennon was a safe pair of hands to get them over the line last season , but they should of been ruthless and shown more ambition They weren’t and are now paying the price
Credit has to go to Gerrard if he can keep current firm going
They have always lost there way over festive period and into January so he needs to show he can prevent that happening
The Board will no doubt back him in the transfer window to ensure they capitalise on Celtic’s frailties and mistakes
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Sevco don't have any money to spend in January. And they need to be wary about their traditional New Year collapse under Gerrard... they have started seasons well under him but then fallen apart.
The real question here is Lennon's man management and whether he has lost the Celtc dressing room, because I don't think the League is a done deal. If Celtc start 2021 6 points or less behind Sevco then it is all to play for.
No doubt Celtc's board will be thinking about this right now. The decision they make this week will determine whether or not 10IAR slips through their fingers.
Since90+2
30-11-2020, 09:15 AM
Celtic have some great players but they have some obvious weaknesses that need addressed asap.
I think they've got better players than Rangers but are a much poorer team. A managerial change and 2-3 good players and I think Celtic would wipe the floor with Rangers tbh.
You could probably say the same for Rangers but they're all-in - they can't get another 2-3 players.
Nobody has wiped the floor with this Rangers side for about 18 months. The only game I can think when they've been outplayed in that time is against a very good Leverkusen side.
Rangers just had a double header with Benfica and were the better side over those 2 games. I've seen no evidence that this Celtic squad is capable of wiping the floor with them.
Scottie
30-11-2020, 09:19 AM
As soon as Gerrard leaves Rangers will go back down a level and that's likely to be next summer. He seems to be a very good coach.
The guys had millions upon millions to spend on a squad and wages since he came in which is overlooked by the media. They are getting bailed out weekly by investment running into millions off the field which will keep them afloat and utterly rank decisions on the field by incompetent cheating refs. He's won he-haw atm and I fully expect them to implode once again once the Xmas period is over like the past few seasons. Lets see how good a coach he is at the end of the season when the trophies are picked up.
Since90+2
30-11-2020, 09:21 AM
The guys had millions upon millions to spend on a squad and wages since he came in which is overlooked by the media. They are getting bailed out weekly by investment running into millions off the field which will keep them afloat and utterly rank decisions on the field by incompetent cheating refs. He's won he-haw atm and I fully expect them to implode once again once the Xmas period is over like the past few seasons. Lets see how good a coach he is at the end of the season when the trophies are picked up.
Lennon has also spent millions and look at the state of the Celtic team. You can have millions to spend and also be a good good coach at the same time. Anyone who has seen Rangers this season would need to grudgingly admit they are a very well coached side.
flash
30-11-2020, 09:23 AM
The guys had millions upon millions to spend on a squad and wages since he came in which is overlooked by the media. They are getting bailed out weekly by investment running into millions off the field which will keep them afloat and utterly rank decisions on the field by incompetent cheating refs. He's won he-haw atm and I fully expect them to implode once again once the Xmas period is over like the past few seasons. Lets see how good a coach he is at the end of the season when the trophies are picked up.
Really?
calumhibee1
30-11-2020, 09:36 AM
Celtic have some great players but they have some obvious weaknesses that need addressed asap.
I think they've got better players than Rangers but are a much poorer team. A managerial change and 2-3 good players and I think Celtic would wipe the floor with Rangers tbh.
You could probably say the same for Rangers but they're already all-in - they can't get another 2-3 players.
Serious questions need to be asked about how Celtic allowed themselves to end up here - complacency on that level shouldn't be tolerated.
Out of interest, if you were picking a combined 11 I presume you’d have more Celtic players in it in that case?
Me personally I’d have McGregor and the whole back 4 from Rangers and Kent in the team without even having to think about it. From the Celtic team the only certs for me would be Edouard and probably Christie.
Imo they’re well off Rangers standard of squad.
Since452
30-11-2020, 09:45 AM
Rangers have impressed in both domestic and European competitions. They are miles better than Celtic this season and are a really good side imo. If Celtic win the league I'd be astonished
eastmainsmsh
30-11-2020, 09:48 AM
Malky Mackay till end of season lol
The Harp Awakes
30-11-2020, 09:52 AM
Despite the manner it all ended I enjoyed having Neil Lennon as our manager. It was a real surprise we were able to hire him, and left us with some great memories from his time. Liked him as a man and still do, and feel for him right now while he is in the firing line and thousands of those who would claim him to be one of their own stick the knife in.
Wouldn’t be a surprise if he called time on it himself and walks away.
Yes, pretty much how I feel about NL. Enjoyed the spell when he was our Manager, and particularly loved the way had us up for Celtic and Rangers games and got in their faces.
I hope he does himself and his family a favour and walks away from the West of Scotland cess pit.
WhileTheChief..
30-11-2020, 10:05 AM
Your first sentence is a
disgraceful comment. To even think ever thinking about hating a Hibs manager.
Look we have some poor ones but to even contemplating hating them is way out of order.
The abuse that Lennon takes on here from some is unbelievable. Not only that, but the ones that hate him so much appear to need everyone else to hate him too.
You’d think he was the worst manger we ever had reading some of the comments about him.
Heckingbottom, Butcher, Fenlon, McLeish, Calderwood, Duffy, Hughes, Mixu - none of them get the abuse Lennon does when some clearly deserve it more.
I loved his time with us and would welcome back with open arms anytime.
danhibees1875
30-11-2020, 10:08 AM
It’s a pretty entertaining situation (rioting aside) - if Celtic get 10IAR, the meltdown in Govan will be off the charts. If Celtic fail to achieve 10IAR at the very last hurdle, the meltdown in Parkhead will be off the charts. It really has turned into a win-win for all of us “minnows”.
Win-win :agree:
My only concern would be the current likelihood of hearts winning the cup... :panic:
calumhibee1
30-11-2020, 10:09 AM
The abuse that Lennon takes on here from some is unbelievable. Not only that, but the ones that hate him so much appear to need everyone else to hate him too.
You’d think he was the worst manger we ever had reading some of the comments about him.
Heckingbottom, Butcher, Fenlon, McLeish, Calderwood, Duffy, Hughes, Mixu - none of them get the abuse Lennon does when some clearly deserve it more.
I loved his time with us and would welcome back with open arms anytime.
Does he get much abuse? Or is it just that the folk that still love him won’t hear a bad word said about him and see anything that isn’t positive as abuse?
You see the odd comment but there’s very little in the way of abuse imo. Plenty people enjoying his failure as Celtic manager but then I’d expect that entirely from Hibs fans and it certainly doesn’t fall under the category of abuse imo.
RossScott1991
30-11-2020, 10:10 AM
I realise Celtc are on a really poor run but I think the desperation among their supporters is compounded by how well their rivals are doing.
As much as I hate them, you can't deny that having only dropped 4 points and conceded three goals in league games is incredible form.
It's early days, but it really looks like we're about to go from a Celtc team that wins everything to a (The) Rangers team doing the same. Depressing stuff, really.
I think it will be the opposite, with the title changing hands back and forward now more regularly.
Could see Gerrard completing what needed to do at rangers and leaving for next journey down south.
Pagan Hibernia
30-11-2020, 10:45 AM
I think it will be the opposite, with the title changing hands back and forward now more regularly.
Could see Gerrard completing what needed to do at rangers and leaving for next journey down south.
if he wins a few trophies at ibrox I’d say he’s a certainty to be Klopps successor.
Phil MaGlass
30-11-2020, 10:46 AM
Sevco don't have any money to spend in January. And they need to be wary about their traditional New Year collapse under Gerrard... they have started seasons well under him but then fallen apart.
The real question here is Lennon's man management and whether he has lost the Celtc dressing room, because I don't think the League is a done deal. If Celtc start 2021 6 points or less behind Sevco then it is all to play for.
No doubt Celtc's board will be thinking about this right now. The decision they make this week will determine whether or not 10IAR slips through their fingers.
Sevco dont have the money,but,I am almost 100% sure, they will find it or go into more massive debt just to stop 10iar, they may even go bust again to stop it.
neil7908
30-11-2020, 10:51 AM
I think it will be the opposite, with the title changing hands back and forward now more regularly.
Could see Gerrard completing what needed to do at rangers and leaving for next journey down south.
Yup. Gerrard will not be hanging around long. If he wins the league this season I can see him going in the summer or next season. He might want to wait for the Liverpool job but I don't think that'll be available for a while and don't see him staying in Scotland for long.
The Modfather
30-11-2020, 11:05 AM
The abuse that Lennon takes on here from some is unbelievable. Not only that, but the ones that hate him so much appear to need everyone else to hate him too.
You’d think he was the worst manger we ever had reading some of the comments about him.
Heckingbottom, Butcher, Fenlon, McLeish, Calderwood, Duffy, Hughes, Mixu - none of them get the abuse Lennon does when some clearly deserve it more.
I loved his time with us and would welcome back with open arms anytime.
I disliked Lennon before he was with us, struggled to take to him while he was here (while still being able to acknowledge the good that he did do as well as the bad) and still dislike him now he’s gone.
Lennon has been an unpopular and divisive person for those outside of Celtc for much of the whole time he has been in Scotland. That’s why reactions, good or bad, differ from everyone else you mention IMO.
Lancs Harp
30-11-2020, 11:10 AM
There was an interview with Gerrard in the Liverpool Echo recently about his work life balance. It was quite an interesting piece. His family home is in Formby on Merseyside, he's a family man and has four kids who from memory I think are all in school. He generally nips back mid week for an evening so he has a night at home with his family. At the weekends his Mrs (it didnt mention the kids) comes up to Glasgow, he said it helped calm him down and keep him sane :greengrin He was asked the inevitable Klopp replacement question but side stepped it as you would expect and confirmed very diplomatically his commitment to Rangers.
I think he's a pretty shrewd character and is clearly using his current position as a stepping stone to the EPL and most likely the Liverpool job, which in all likeliness will be his next job or maybe another interim step with another club if Klopp stays around for a few more seasons (hes been there 5 years now - where did that go?), I think hell remain at Rangers for another season or two personally.
Anyway back to Lennon and Celtic :greengrin
danhibees1875
30-11-2020, 11:15 AM
Yup. Gerrard will not be hanging around long. If he wins the league this season I can see him going in the summer or next season. He might want to wait for the Liverpool job but I don't think that'll be available for a while and don't see him staying in Scotland for long.
Klopp regularly comes out with things about wanting to take a break from football to see if he misses it and hints that he'd consider a simpler life away from football in the near future.
I'd assume their board will want to keep tabs on that and could do worse than bringing Gerard in for a period of time while klopp is still there to facilitate a handover process that was as smooth as possible.
Since452
30-11-2020, 11:15 AM
Yup. Gerrard will not be hanging around long. If he wins the league this season I can see him going in the summer or next season. He might want to wait for the Liverpool job but I don't think that'll be available for a while and don't see him staying in Scotland for long.
He could do worse than join Liverpool's coaching set up so he can work with Klopp with a view to taking over eventually.
Pagan Hibernia
30-11-2020, 11:35 AM
I disliked Lennon before he was with us, struggled to take to him while he was here (while still being able to acknowledge the good that he did do as well as the bad) and still dislike him now he’s gone.
Lennon has been an unpopular and divisive person for those outside of Celtc for much of the whole time he has been in Scotland. That’s why reactions, good or bad, differ from everyone else you mention IMO.
a lot of his unpopularity is out and out bigotry. Not suggesting that’s the case with you obviously but it’s certainly the case with many outside Celtic and Hibs.
I met him once. He seemed a warm, friendly person, generous with his time. I don’t get the abuse he gets either
Bishop Hibee
30-11-2020, 11:45 AM
a lot of his unpopularity is out and out bigotry. Not suggesting that’s the case with you obviously but it’s certainly the case with many outside Celtic and Hibs.
I met him once. He seemed a warm, friendly person, generous with his time. I don’t get the abuse he gets either
Sadly their is still anti-Irish bigotry in Scotland. I’ve heard it at ER which given our history is pig-ignorant.
The Modfather
30-11-2020, 11:47 AM
a lot of his unpopularity is out and out bigotry. Not suggesting that’s the case with you obviously but it’s certainly the case with many outside Celtic and Hibs.
I met him once. He seemed a warm, friendly person, generous with his time. I don’t get the abuse he gets either
There’s definitely an element of bigotry, but out with Rangers fans I think it’s a minority reason why fans, not all of course, from clubs up and down the country dislike him. As a player, I viewed him the same way as someone like Robbie Savage. A pantomime villain that got away with more than others because of who he played for but we all would have loved that kind of player for us. As a manager he comes across as an angry little man at times (some of it understandable given what he’s had to put up with, but not a free pass for his behaviour) IMO.
He’s a good short term fix if taking over a good side. Once that side becomes his own he struggles badly and his behaviour gets more polarising IMO.
IWasThere2016
30-11-2020, 11:52 AM
There was an interview with Gerrard in the Liverpool Echo recently about his work life balance. It was quite an interesting piece. His family home is in Formby on Merseyside, he's a family man and has four kids who from memory I think are all in school. He generally nips back mid week for an evening so he has a night at home with his family. At the weekends his Mrs (it didnt mention the kids) comes up to Glasgow, he said it helped calm him down and keep him sane :greengrin He was asked the inevitable Klopp replacement question but side stepped it as you would expect and confirmed very diplomatically his commitment to Rangers.
I think he's a pretty shrewd character and is clearly using his current position as a stepping stone to the EPL and most likely the Liverpool job, which in all likeliness will be his next job or maybe another interim step with another club if Klopp stays around for a few more seasons (hes been there 5 years now - where did that go?), I think hell remain at Rangers for another season or two personally.
Anyway back to Lennon and Celtic :greengrin
Who would leave Formby for Glasgow?!? :wink:
The 90+2
30-11-2020, 11:54 AM
Sadly their is still anti-Irish bigotry in Scotland. I’ve heard it at ER which given our history is pig-ignorant.
There’s also anti-unionism throughout Scotland and pro-republican. Both are as bad as each other. Being in the middle and not caring either way I find it laughable now.
Lennon isn’t liked by Aberdeen or Dundee Utd fans or even Inverness fans because they are all bigoted? Sorry I can’t agree with that.
Bishop Hibee
30-11-2020, 11:57 AM
There’s also anti-unionism throughout Scotland and pro-republican. Both are as bad as each other. Being in the middle and not caring either way I find it laughable now.
Lennon isn’t liked by Aberdeen or Dundee Utd fans or even Inverness fans because they are all bigoted? Sorry I can’t agree with that.
I didn’t say all fans fans didn’t like Lennon because they are bigoted. Also, you choose to be a republican or a unionist, you don’t choose your nationality.
heretoday
30-11-2020, 11:58 AM
I always find Lennon worth listening to on the radio with a dry wit and wise punditry born of long experience.
Considering what he's had to put up with over the years it's amazing he's not lost his marbles completely.
IWasThere2016
30-11-2020, 11:59 AM
I always find Lennon worth listening to on the radio with a dry wit and wise punditry born of long experience.
Considering what he's had to put up with over the years it's amazing he's not lost his marbles completely.
:agree: Disgraceful
AndyM_1875
30-11-2020, 12:00 PM
I like Neil Lennon, liked him as manager at ER as well, but it really is over for him at Celtic. They are being eaten alive by the 10IAR nonsense.
Fans protesting (admittedly idiotically) and the club trailing Rangers whilst producing awful insipid displays, despite their superior budget.
Can see him going this week and being replaced by a short term fix of Strachan or O'Neill till the summer when they will lose the league and then Eddie Howe coming in.
The 90+2
30-11-2020, 12:00 PM
I didn’t say all fans fans didn’t like Lennon because they are bigoted. Also, you choose to be a republican or a unionist, you don’t choose your nationality.
You think people don’t like Neil Lennon because he’s from Northern Ireland? I didn’t see many people have much of an issue with Michael O’Neil, Martin O’Neil, Steven Robinson, Tommy Wright, etc?
I did see people have a dislike of Kyle Lafferty though, because he’s an unlikeable individual who wound up folk, just like Lennon.
Since90+2
30-11-2020, 12:02 PM
There’s also anti-unionism throughout Scotland and pro-republican. Both are as bad as each other. Being in the middle and not caring either way I find it laughable now.
Lennon isn’t liked by Aberdeen or Dundee Utd fans or even Inverness fans because they are all bigoted? Sorry I can’t agree with that.
Being anti union and pro republican in Scotland are political points of view. That is not the same as someone being anti Irish.
The 90+2
30-11-2020, 12:02 PM
I always find Lennon worth listening to on the radio with a dry wit and wise punditry born of long experience.
Considering what he's had to put up with over the years it's amazing he's not lost his marbles completely.
He’s decent when he’s not on the football field or involved with a club. He was an amazing pundit also at the World Cup and Euros before coming to us.
The 90+2
30-11-2020, 12:02 PM
Being anti union and pro republican in Scotland are political points of view. That is not the same as someone bring anti Irish.
See above.
Since90+2
30-11-2020, 12:04 PM
See above.
You said anti unionism and pro republican is as bad as someone being anti Irish. It isn't the same.
EI255
30-11-2020, 12:05 PM
You said anti unionism and pro republican is as bad as someone being anti Irish. It isn't the same.Being anti Irish is racism.
It's not difficult.
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The 90+2
30-11-2020, 12:05 PM
You said anti unionism and pro republican is the same as someone being anti Irish. It isn't the same.
I didn’t say it was. But Lennon like Lafferty isn’t disliked because they are from Northern Ireland, the same as nobody really dislikes plenty of examples Irishmen playing and managing in the country.
Since90+2
30-11-2020, 12:07 PM
Being anti Irish is racism.
It's not difficult.
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Yip. Whereas being anti union and pro republican is a political viewpoint. There is no comparison and they are certainly not "as bad as each other".
EI255
30-11-2020, 12:10 PM
a lot of his unpopularity is out and out bigotry. Not suggesting that’s the case with you obviously but it’s certainly the case with many outside Celtic and Hibs.
I met him once. He seemed a warm, friendly person, generous with his time. I don’t get the abuse he gets eitherHave to agree with you. The guy was a good player and has done well as a manger. There is clearly a large number of Scottish people who dislike him and also because he is a Catholic who played for his country and Celtic he is a hate figure for that too.
I'd love to know EXCATLY why he's hated as much as he is (and was). I'm thinking he was hated in this country back in the day because he was a very good footballer.
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The 90+2
30-11-2020, 12:14 PM
Have to agree with you. The guy was a good player and has done well as a manger. There is clearly a large number of Scottish people who dislike him and also because he is a Catholic who played for his country and Celtic he is a hate figure for that too.
I'd love to know EXCATLY why he's hated as much as he is (and was). I'm thinking he was hated in this country back in the day because he was a very good footballer.
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He was a nasty snarling player who was booed every time he came to Easter Road, in the same way Hartley and Ferguson was and why Novo and Lafferty got booed all the time too. Was he booed and given abuse at Easter Road because he was Irish? Or was it because he kicked anything that moved, shouted abuse at referees and acted a Fanny? It’s simply lazy to put it down to racism or bigotry.
Bostonhibby
30-11-2020, 12:20 PM
He’s decent when he’s not on the football field or involved with a club. He was an amazing pundit also at the World Cup and Euros before coming to us.Posted when he joined us that I'd met him a couple of times through a mutual friend. Good company, last time he was still celtc manager, his knowledge of Hibs was impressive, spoke about us for ages, friendly enjoyable company considering that at the time he had to have a minder with him in his local pub.
I was a bit indifferent about him as Hibs manager towards the end but have a bit of admiration how hes handled what he's dealt with off field.
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He was a nasty snarling player who was booed every time he came to Easter Road, in the same way Hartley and Ferguson was and why Novo and Lafferty got booed all the time too. Was he booed and given abuse at Easter Road because he was Irish? Or was it because he kicked anything that moved, shouted abuse at referees and acted a Fanny? It’s simply lazy to put it down to racism or bigotry.He wasn't just booed on the football pitch though. He was sent death threats, bullets and was constantly harassed on the street. There have been other pantomime baddies booed on the pitch who didn't have the other stuff in their lives. Ask yourself why the other stuff happened and what was the source.
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The 90+2
30-11-2020, 12:24 PM
Posted when he joined us that I'd met him a couple of times through a mutual friend. Good company, last time he was still celtc manager, his knowledge of Hibs was impressive, spoke about us for ages, friendly enjoyable company considering that at the time he had to have a minder with him in his local pub.
I was a bit indifferent about him as Hibs manager towards the end but have a bit of admiration how hes handled what he's dealt with off field.
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Me too and I completely agree and understand where you are coming from.
I don’t particularly like the guy because in my eyes he treated us so the distain towards the end of being here and I didn’t like him as a footballer but as someone who struggles with mental health also and haven’t had to take a percentage of abuse he’s taken I do have huge admiration for him.
The 90+2
30-11-2020, 12:26 PM
He wasn't just booed on the football pitch though. He was sent death threats, bullets and was constantly harassed on the street. There have been other pantomime baddies booed on the pitch who didn't have the other stuff in their lives. Ask yourself why the other stuff happened and what was the source.
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Death threats and bullets in the post from people in Ireland. Not Scotland. He was advised it wasn’t safe to play for NI. What’s that to do with Scottish football fans not liking him because of people anti-Irish?
Lennon lived in central Glasgow and was out every week with as much hassle as say Alan McGregor would get. I seen Scott Brown get his head kicked in a couple of times while still at Hibs because he was a gobby bassa also and that was from a hibs fan. Same with Deegan who got his jaw broke off a Hibs fan too.
Hibs4185
30-11-2020, 12:29 PM
I have it on good authority that once Leeann left, that JR is on a shoogly peg and Lennon is engineering his exit from Celtic to come back to his beloved hibs.
h185forever
30-11-2020, 12:37 PM
I have it on good authority that once Leeann left, that JR is on a shoogly peg and Lennon is engineering his exit from Celtic to come back to his beloved hibs.
🤣🤣🤣🤣.......and youve got tomorrow's lottery numbers too ?
superfurryhibby
30-11-2020, 12:39 PM
Lennon’s treatment in Scotland has been shameful. Anyone believing that their isn’t a sectarian undercurrent to it is deluding themselves.
“In 2003, two students attacked him as he enjoyed a night out near his home in the genteel West End. In 2004 he was the victim of a road-rage incident in the middle of the M8 which led to a man being fined £500. In 2008 he was beaten unconscious by two men as he left a pub. Each of his assailants was jailed”
He’s also been assaulted on the pitch, subject to numerous death threats ( including whilst at Hibs). Let’s not pretend it’s just for footballing reasons
WhileTheChief..
30-11-2020, 12:56 PM
And he brought all of that on himself because he snarled as player apparently!
I get why some folk don’t like him. What I don’t get is why they want everyone else to dislike him as well and to try and tell us we shouldn’t have enjoyed his time at ER.
The place was buzzing when he was manager. Going to ER was brilliant fun, even towards the end it had its moments.
It’s been flat since the moment he left.
The 90+2
30-11-2020, 01:02 PM
And he brought all of that on himself because he snarled as player apparently!
I get why some folk don’t like him. What I don’t get is why they want everyone else to dislike him as well and to try and tell us we shouldn’t have enjoyed his time at ER.
The place was buzzing when he was manager. Going to ER was brilliant fun, even towards the end it had its moments.
It’s been flat since the moment he left.
It was buzzing before he arrived and was flat before he left.
JohnMcM
30-11-2020, 01:13 PM
I have it on good authority that once Leeann left, that JR is on a shoogly peg and Lennon is engineering his exit from Celtic to come back to his beloved hibs.
Your post count should be 666 not 888 :greengrin
jacomo
30-11-2020, 01:19 PM
And he brought all of that on himself because he snarled as player apparently!
I get why some folk don’t like him. What I don’t get is why they want everyone else to dislike him as well and to try and tell us we shouldn’t have enjoyed his time at ER.
The place was buzzing when he was manager. Going to ER was brilliant fun, even towards the end it had its moments.
It’s been flat since the moment he left.
Seems it's the way of things these days - everything must be a binary situation, no room for nuance, grey areas or complexity.
Personally I quite liked the wee ginger bampot but was happy to say GTF when he worked his ticket back to Celtc!
calumhibee1
30-11-2020, 01:20 PM
And he brought all of that on himself because he snarled as player apparently!
I get why some folk don’t like him. What I don’t get is why they want everyone else to dislike him as well and to try and tell us we shouldn’t have enjoyed his time at ER.
The place was buzzing when he was manager. Going to ER was brilliant fun, even towards the end it had its moments.
It’s been flat since the moment he left.
Who is trying to convince you not to like him or said you shouldn’t have enjoyed his time at ER?
calumhibee1
30-11-2020, 01:21 PM
Lennon’s treatment in Scotland has been shameful. Anyone believing that their isn’t a sectarian undercurrent to it is deluding themselves.
“In 2003, two students attacked him as he enjoyed a night out near his home in the genteel West End. In 2004 he was the victim of a road-rage incident in the middle of the M8 which led to a man being fined £500. In 2008 he was beaten unconscious by two men as he left a pub. Each of his assailants was jailed”
He’s also been assaulted on the pitch, subject to numerous death threats ( including whilst at Hibs). Let’s not pretend it’s just for footballing reasons
I don’t think anybody is arguing that Lennon hasn’t been the victim of sectarian abuse/assaults.
The argument is that you can also dislike him for a variety of other reasons that aren’t sectarian.
Baader
30-11-2020, 01:24 PM
Death threats and bullets in the post from people in Ireland. Not Scotland. He was advised it wasn’t safe to play for NI. What’s that to do with Scottish football fans not liking him because of people anti-Irish?
Lennon lived in central Glasgow and was out every week with as much hassle as say Alan McGregor would get. I seen Scott Brown get his head kicked in a couple of times while still at Hibs because he was a gobby bassa also and that was from a hibs fan. Same with Deegan who got his jaw broke off a Hibs fan too.
The two men jailed in 2012 for sending him a suspect package were from Ayrshire.
hibsbollah
30-11-2020, 01:24 PM
I’ve just had a wee read of this thread.
Frankly, its boring as ****.
Neil Lennon and The Thread of Predictable Black and White Thinking.
HFC93
30-11-2020, 01:30 PM
I think Lennon was great for us but I remember the football being turgid. As time has passed, his followers have built up the brand of football he had us playing. Someone will inevitably mention the 6-6 game but that was a bit of a freak. He also only got us to 4th place.
The 90+2
30-11-2020, 01:34 PM
The two men jailed in 2012 for sending him a suspect package were from Ayrshire.
Was that because he was Irish? If so why did they also send packages to Paul McBride and Trish Goodman?
This is what I was meaning, BBC SPORT | Football | Lennon pulls out after death threat (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/2208543.stm) again, not because Scottish people are anti Irish.
Baader
30-11-2020, 01:41 PM
Was that because he was Irish? If so why did they also send packages to Paul McBride and Trish Goodman?
This is what I was meaning, BBC SPORT | Football | Lennon pulls out after death threat (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/2208543.stm) again, not because Scottish people are anti Irish.
You said bullets in the post from people in Ireland which isn't true. Don't think it's too much of a stretch to imply there is a sectarian angle here...
easty
30-11-2020, 01:59 PM
I think Lennon was great for us but I remember the football being turgid. As time has passed, his followers have built up the brand of football he had us playing. Someone will inevitably mention the 6-6 game but that was a bit of a freak. He also only got us to 4th place.
He "only" got us 4th place
2019/20 - 7th
2018/19 - 5th
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superfurryhibby
30-11-2020, 02:03 PM
I don’t think anybody is arguing that Lennon hasn’t been the victim of sectarian abuse/assaults.
The argument is that you can also dislike him for a variety of other reasons that aren’t sectarian.
Yes, but there is a huge leap between dislike and the long history of threats, and assaults upon him.
Also, note to other posters, can we acknowledge that Lennon isn’t actually Irish. He’s from Northern Ireland and the last time I checked that country remains part of Britain. A fairly significant detail.
Religious based hatred remains a shameful part of Scottish society. We shouldn’t be indulging in any nonsense which seeks to minimise that. Denying the basis for the attacks on LEnnon is frankly ludicrous.
The 90+2
30-11-2020, 02:17 PM
You said bullets in the post from people in Ireland which isn't true. Don't think it's too much of a stretch to imply there is a sectarian angle here...
Of course there is. There’s a huge sectarian issue either side in the west of Scotland. There’s not a huge anti Irish issue though .
Rumble de Thump
30-11-2020, 02:22 PM
Yes, but there is a huge leap between dislike and the long history of threats, and assaults upon him.
Also, note to other posters, can we acknowledge that Lennon isn’t actually Irish. He’s from Northern Ireland and the last time I checked that country remains part of Britain. A fairly significant detail.
Religious based hatred remains a shameful part of Scottish society. We shouldn’t be indulging in any nonsense which seeks to minimise that. Denying the basis for the attacks on LEnnon is frankly ludicrous.
Northern Ireland is part of Ireland and part of the United Kingdom, but not part of Great Britain. It is, however, part of the British Isles. I hope that clears things up :greengrin
Pagan Hibernia
30-11-2020, 02:23 PM
Yes, but there is a huge leap between dislike and the long history of threats, and assaults upon him.
Also, note to other posters, can we acknowledge that Lennon isn’t actually Irish. He’s from Northern Ireland and the last time I checked that country remains part of Britain. A fairly significant detail.
Religious based hatred remains a shameful part of Scottish society. We shouldn’t be indulging in any nonsense which seeks to minimise that. Denying the basis for the attacks on LEnnon is frankly ludicrous.
nope. Good Friday Agreement. People in Northern Ireland are British, Irish, or both.
neil Lennon clearly considers himself Irish. Therefore he’s Irish.
Sean1875
30-11-2020, 02:27 PM
Yes, but there is a huge leap between dislike and the long history of threats, and assaults upon him.
Also, note to other posters, can we acknowledge that Lennon isn’t actually Irish. He’s from Northern Ireland and the last time I checked that country remains part of Britain. A fairly significant detail.
Religious based hatred remains a shameful part of Scottish society. We shouldn’t be indulging in any nonsense which seeks to minimise that. Denying the basis for the attacks on LEnnon is frankly ludicrous.
My mum and her family are all from just outside of Derry - not a single one of them have ever, nor would ever call or consider themselves British.
easty
30-11-2020, 02:35 PM
My mum and her family are all from just outside of Derry - not a single one of them have ever, nor would ever call or consider themselves British.
I'm from Edinburgh, and I don't consider myself British either. Scotland is a country, and I'm Scottish.
superfurryhibby
30-11-2020, 02:35 PM
nope. Good Friday Agreement. People in Northern Ireland are British, Irish, or both.
neil Lennon clearly considers himself Irish. Therefore he’s Irish.
Has Neil Lennon ever declared which passport he holds? He choose to play football for Northern Ireland. Also, there are provisos attached to the right to have an Irish passport. It’s not quite as simple as you suggest.
Regardless, Lennon is a high profile Ulster ( there, we can keep to known facts) catholic who has received appalling treatment whilst in this country because of his religion and his favoured choice of football team. Not because he was a horrible wee tyke when he played football.
worcesterhibby
30-11-2020, 02:40 PM
The vast majority of Hibs fans supported Neil Lennon and gave him our backing while he was Hibs manager. He left under a bit of a cloud and with the team performing poorly. He is no longer the manager of Hibs he is now the manager of one of our rivals. Quite a few Hibs fans are now happily having a chuckle at that rival teams demise and don't have a huge amount of sympathy for their manager. I see nothing wrong with that. Why the thread has to end up champing on about sectarian abuse, bullets in the post and whether N.Ireland is part of the UK, Ireland, Europe or Legoland is beyond me.
Pagan Hibernia
30-11-2020, 02:40 PM
Has Neil Lennon ever declared which passport he holds? He choose to play football for Northern Ireland. Also, there are provisos attached to the right to have an Irish passport. It’s not quite as simple as you suggest.
Regardless, Lennon is a high profile Ulster ( there, we can keep to known facts) catholic who has received appalling treatment whilst in this country because of his religion and his favoured choice of football team. Not because he was a horrible wee tyke when he played football.
sorry but I live in Belfast and hold both a British and Irish passport. There are no more extra rules or regulations about it. If you want an Irish passport, you pay your money, fill out the form, and get one. They’re available for everyone from the island. It really is that simple.
the international team he played for has very little to do with nationality in this country.
superfurryhibby
30-11-2020, 02:42 PM
sorry but I live in Belfast and hold both a British and Irish passport. There are no more extra rules or regulations about it. If you want an Irish passport, you pay your money, fill out the form, and get one. They’re available for everyone from the island. It really is that simple.
the international team he played for has very little to do with nationality in this country.
No, there are rules.
Anyone born on the island of Ireland (yes, both the Republic and Northern Ireland) before January 1, 2005, is automatically eligible for Irish citizenship – even if your parents don't hold Irish passports.
After that date, Irish citizenship is not automatic and the citizenship and residency history of both parents is taken into account – basically, you'll need to prove your parents were living in Ireland for three of the four years prior to your birth.
However, if you were born in Ireland after January 1, 2005 and at least one parent was an Irish citizen at the time, you are also automatically eligible.
The 2005 cut-off point exists because of a referendum abolishing birthright citizenship the previous year.
2. I have an Irish parent(s)
Next up, you're automatically eligible for Irish citizenship if at least one of your parents was born in Ireland before 2005.
calumhibee1
30-11-2020, 02:42 PM
The vast majority of Hibs fans supported Neil Lennon and gave him our backing while he was Hibs manager. He left under a bit of a cloud and with the team performing poorly. He is no longer the manager of Hibs he is now the manager of one of our rivals. Quite a few Hibs fans are now happily having a chuckle at that rival teams demise and don't have a huge amount of sympathy for their manager. I see nothing wrong with that. Why the thread has to end up champing on about sectarian abuse, bullets in the post and whether N.Ireland is part of the UK, Ireland, Europe or Legoland is beyond me.
Exactly.
The way people are so hurt at the fact folk are laughing at the shambles the Celtic manager has turned Celtic into after doing similar to us is hilarious.
Pagan Hibernia
30-11-2020, 02:46 PM
No, there are rules. I’ll let you look them up.
i don’t need to. I’ve got my Irish passport. But I can tell you what the rules are. If you’re from Ireland (the island) you are entitled to an Irish passport. If you’re from Northern Ireland you’re also entitled to a British one. Many have one or the other. Many, like myself, take advantage of the fact you can have both.
FilipinoHibs
30-11-2020, 02:49 PM
Has Neil Lennon ever declared which passport he holds? He choose to play football for Northern Ireland. Also, there are provisos attached to the right to have an Irish passport. It’s not quite as simple as you suggest.
Regardless, Lennon is a high profile Ulster ( there, we can keep to known facts) catholic who has received appalling treatment whilst in this country because of his religion and his favoured choice of football team. Not because he was a horrible wee tyke when he played football.
Northern Ireland is not Ulster, but only 6 of its 9 counties. The other 3 are in The Republic of Ireland. Known fact.
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