Hibs Women

[Bridge hibs]

BBC alba

Cheers mate 👍

[BILLYHIBS]

Hibs 0 v 1 The Rangers

[Sloop67]

0-2 , Game over I'd say

[Sloop67]

0-3

[cabbageandribs1875]

scores on the doors

Dundee United 0 Hearts 3
Montrose 7 Hamilton 0
Hibernian 0 Rangers 3

Hibs still 5th

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHw7oqjW0AA4Ah9?format=png&name=4096x4096

[cabbageandribs1875]

Euro 2025 Qualifying draw

Group B2

Scotland
Serbia
Slovakia
Israel

Group B4

Wales
Croatia
Ukraine
Kosovo

Group A3

France
England
Sweden
Republic of Ireland

[He's here!]

Euro 2025 Qualifying draw

Group B2

Scotland
Serbia
Slovakia
Israel

Group B4

Wales
Croatia
Ukraine
Kosovo

Group A3

France
England
Sweden
Republic of Ireland

Think Scotland would need to go through play-offs even if they do well in the group?

[He's here!]

Caught some of the BBC Women's Football Show the other night. 60k at the Emirates for the Arsenal Spurs game. Remarkable.

Are these likely to be fans who attend both the men's and the women's fixtures (eg does your season ticket give you access to both?) or has the women's game in England built up a big new fan base? Whatever the reason they're clearly getting something very right.

[Brightside]

Caught some of the BBC Women's Football Show the other night. 60k at the Emirates for the Arsenal Spurs game. Remarkable.

Are these likely to be fans who attend both the men's and the women's fixtures (eg does your season ticket give you access to both?) or has the women's game in England built up a big new fan base? Whatever the reason they're clearly getting something very right.

a bit of both. But they do have a huge amount of people who only go to the womens games. Tickets are very cheap. Its a different world to up here. They are watching world stars and that's a huge draw.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Think Scotland would need to go through play-offs even if they do well in the group?


Group winners and runners-up from each League A group automatically qualify, with the remaining seven places taken by the best-ranked sides from all three leagues.

All third and fourth-placed teams from League A will go through to the play-offs.

The top three teams in each League B group will also make the play-offs. If Switzerland finish in the top three of their group, then the best ranked fourth-placed team from League B will go into the play-offs.

From League C, the five group winners and three best-ranked runners-up will reach the play-offs.

The 28 teams making the play-offs will be whittled down to seven, with the first round being split into two paths.

The eight sides from League A will be drawn against the eight sides from League C. The six best teams from League B will face the six lowest-ranked teams from League B. Both sets of matches are two-legged.

In the second play-off round, the remaining 14 teams will be split via seedings. The seven nations with the best ranking will be drawn against the other seven teams. The winners of those fixtures will qualify for the finals.


after reading all that my head is now sore

[hibby rae]

Eilidh Adams confirmed out for the rest of the season with a broken bone in her foot.

That's two fairly big injuries she's had, unlucky considering how young she still is.

[He's here!]

Eilidh Adams confirmed out for the rest of the season with a broken bone in her foot.

That's two fairly big injuries she's had, unlucky considering how young she still is.

Just heard that. Real shame.

[oconnors_strip]

Kirsty Morrison is captain today whilst making her 100th appearance. Hibs net sponsor her and it’s brilliant to see her lead out the team!

If unable to go to the game then you can watch it online- Scottish Cup Quarter-Final clash versus Rangers this afternoon will be live-streamed on our official club YouTube channel 📺

Find it here 👉 https://bit.ly/3TstvMN

[He's here!]

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/mar/06/copa-71-review-riveting-story-of-womens-world-cup-goes-way-beyond-football

Interesting film just been released.

[MartinfaePorty]

Currently 1-1 after 19 minutes. Poppy Lawson equalised with a header from a corner. Doing well so far. Live on YouTube for anyone interested.

[oconnors_strip]

2-2 now. Mcgregor with a brilliant equaliser

[Pretty Boy]

Get in there.

2-2. Playing some really good stuff and more than matching Rangers.

[MartinfaePorty]

2-2. Shannon McGregor with a thumping equaliser.

[He's here!]

Great game so far.

[LewysGot2]

The Nina Wilson song is simple but catchy 😂

[Pretty Boy]

The Nina Wilson song is simple but catchy 😂

It's good eh? She's a decent upgrade on last season in goals as well.

[LewysGot2]

God. Great chance at one end for Morrison then the counter attack and they score 🙄

[Newcastlehibby]

Blatant push in the back in the box ignored by the referee.

[Pretty Boy]

Penalty to Rangers duly scored. 4-2

Probably a fair result but Hibs can take plenty heart from their first half showing in particular.

[berwickhibee]

Blatant push in the back in the box ignored by the referee.

Of course it is🤣

It's at every level.

[He's here!]

2-6 FT. Not a fair reflection of what Hibs put into the game, especially when they were inches from going 3-2 ahead.

[Eyrie]

Three very late goals against us which meant the scoreline didn't reflect the game.

[oconnors_strip]

Score doesn’t reflect the game at all.

[Chorley Hibee]

A really unfair result given how tight a match it was.

I'd like to say I was surprised to see that blatantly biased refereeing has even entered the women's game, but I'm not remotely shocked.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Rangers
Celtic
Spartans
Hearts

draw during the Morton v Jamboids game tomorrow night


so...

Rangers v Celtic
Spartans v Hearts


first time hearts will have reached a final

[hibby rae]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68503387

Nice feature on Smally

[PHeffernan]

Bump
Playing close rivals Partick Thistle at the moment.

Happened to look at our squad and it is getting more of a home feel about it with only 3 non Scots in the outfield squad. This is an important development given the expense of importing players to the cash starved womens game in this country.

The anomaly I did note is that we have 3 goalkeepers and not one of them is a Scot. Are there no young Scottish keepers coming through at Hibs?

[He's here!]

Bump
Playing close rivals Partick Thistle at the moment.

Happened to look at our squad and it is getting more of a home feel about it with only 3 non Scots in the outfield squad. This is an important development given the expense of importing players to the cash starved womens game in this country.

The anomaly I did note is that we have 3 goalkeepers and not one of them is a Scot. Are there no young Scottish keepers coming through at Hibs?

Beating Partick 1-0 at present. Would a win take us back to fourth?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Hibernian v Partick Thistle LIVE: Hibernian vs Partick Thistle | ScottishPower Women's Premier League (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCzrK7zNj2s)

2-0 heading for a first win of the season v Partick


Celtic v Rangers SWPL: Follow six games & watch Celtic v Rangers after Glasgow City, Aberdeen & Montrose win - Live - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/68543890) i'm surprsied celtic presently winning 2-0

[PHeffernan]

Beating Partick 1-0 at present. Would a win take us back to fourth?

If scores remain the same we would still be 5th due to goal difference (5 goals worse than Hearts)

[DaveF]

Brian Graham sent off. Constant abuse of the officials by the looks of it. Not a great example to aspiring young girls.

[He's here!]

2-0 Hibs.

[cabbageandribs1875]

rangers pull one back 2-1

[JimBHibees]

Brian Graham sent off. Constant abuse of the officials by the looks of it. Not a great example to aspiring young girls.

Pretty poor example agree

[PHeffernan]

Brian Graham sent off. Constant abuse of the officials by the looks of it. Not a great example to aspiring young girls.

Man at womens game makes an erse of themselves. Quelle surprise!
Not being able to behave apprpriately is a very embarrassing trait for an adult.

[Brightside]

Are managers supposed to act differently at women’s games? It appears we want managers shouting at officials in the men’s game?
Brian Graham has been excellent for Thistle and has inspired many young girls and improved their games. He’s maybe just fed up with constantly poor refs.

[He's here!]

Easy for Rangers in the end with a 4-1 win in the SWPL Cup final but Partick gave them a real game first half and scored a cracking equaliser. Rangers are a very fine side tho.

Good crowd and atmosphere.

[Northernhibee]

It’s a shame that the two arsecheeks have ruined the women’s game up here as well. It’ll be one of the two of them winning everything from here on in and it’s a crying shame.

[He's here!]

It’s a shame that the two arsecheeks have ruined the women’s game up here as well. It’ll be one of the two of them winning everything from here on in and it’s a crying shame.

Yes, it is a shame but hopefully the more girls are inspired to take up the game the more chance clubs like ours have of remaining relatively competitive. I was at Meadowbank the other night and the Hibs girls were training. Heartening to see how many were taking part in each age group.

[Jay]

Yes, it is a shame but hopefully the more girls are inspired to take up the game the more chance clubs like ours have of remaining relatively competitive. I was at Meadowbank the other night and the Hibs girls were training. Heartening to see how many were taking part in each age group.


The girls academy is sponsored by hibs.net.

[He's here!]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68663517

Barton should be compelled to apologise for this. He's always struck me as an utter bell*nd but this is imbecilic stuff from anyone who piled on.

Really hope the girl's career isn't affected by this. She's barely more than a kid and it's tough enough to be a keeper without having to deal with morons like these. Any parent who has supported their child through their development in any sport will understand how low this kind of c**p is.

[MKHIBEE]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68663517

Barton should be compelled to apologise for this. He's always struck me as an utter bell*nd but this is imbecilic stuff from anyone who piled on.

Really hope the girl's career isn't affected by this. She's barely more than a kid and it's tough enough to be a keeper without having to deal with morons like these. Any parent who has supported their child through their development in any sport will understand how low this kind of c**p is.
Joey Barton- the pricks prick.

[Brightside]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68663517

Barton should be compelled to apologise for this. He's always struck me as an utter bell*nd but this is imbecilic stuff from anyone who piled on.

Really hope the girl's career isn't affected by this. She's barely more than a kid and it's tough enough to be a keeper without having to deal with morons like these. Any parent who has supported their child through their development in any sport will understand how low this kind of c**p is.

I know her, as my own daughter played with her in the Scottish youth set up. Strong willed kid with a good family. She will be fine. Joey is just a very odd human being but there are more of them appearing every day.

[He's here!]

I know her, as my own daughter played with her in the Scottish youth set up. Strong willed kid with a good family. She will be fine. Joey is just a very odd human being but there are more of them appearing every day.

That's good to hear and it looks like she's getting plenty of support from within the women's game, including from Rangers.

They talk about banning kids from social media. It's (supposed) grown-ups like Barton and any others who think the girl was fair game for bullying who should be banned.

[Pretty Boy]

People trying to grow the women's game must bang their head against a brick wall when they see some of the drivel from Barton this weekend and the number of people backing him up.

What started as a gripe about female commentators in the male game has just become a full on assault on women's football. No one is compelled to like or watch the women's game but what joy is there in slagging it off at every opportunity? His initial (and sadly successful) attempt to instigate a pile on against a young goalkeeper was then followed up with him calling women players replying to him 'sweetheart' and 'love' before rounding it off by referring to 'lesbo ball'. It's like a caricature of the biggest buffoon in a 70s sitcom.

I don't even buy the 'well men get criticised so birds are fair game' line. We are talking about a 17 year old part timer here, she absolutely should be judged to different standards than say Ederson (that's no slight on her, she's a very good young keeper but you can't compare apples and kiwi fruits).

Thankfully the game is continuing to grow and thrive in spite of these dimwits. You wonder if these guys have daughters what they must think if they wanted to approach their dad about getting involved in football. Are they total dinosaurs who will tell them 'it's a man's game' or total hypocrites who support their own kids but titter like overgrown schoolboys at others?

[hibby rae]

People trying to grow the women's game must bang their head against a brick wall when they see some of the drivel from Barton this weekend and the number of people backing him up.

What started as a gripe about female commentators in the male game has just become a full on assault on women's football. No one is compelled to like or watch the women's game but what joy is there in slagging it off at every opportunity? His initial (and sadly successful) attempt to instigate a pile on against a young goalkeeper was then followed up with him calling women players replying to him 'sweetheart' and 'love' before rounding it off by referring to 'lesbo ball'. It's like a caricature of the biggest buffoon in a 70s sitcom.

I don't even buy the 'well men get criticised so birds are fair game' line. We are talking about a 17 year old part timer here, she absolutely should be judged to different standards than say Ederson (that's no slight on her, she's a very good young keeper but you can't compare apples and kiwi fruits).

Thankfully the game is continuing to grow and thrive in spite of these dimwits. You wonder if these guys have daughters what they must think if they wanted to approach their dad about getting involved in football. Are they total dinosaurs who will tell them 'it's a man's game' or total hypocrites who support their own kids but titter like overgrown schoolboys at others?


It's not really about him getting joy from it, he's a grifter. Nothing more, nothing less. He's not an idiot and is well aware there is money to be made and an opportunity to be relevant to someone, even if that someone is a complete moron.

Failed in his chosen career so went down another path, football's Laurence Fox essentially.

In so many ways this makes him worse than people who jump on his bandwagon of bullsh*t. He'll be well aware of the fallacy of his public positions, and also well aware of the negative impact it has, but he doesn't care. And the people who follow him are too ignorant to realise that.

[Malthibby]

It's not really about him getting joy from it, he's a grifter. Nothing more, nothing less. He's not an idiot and is well aware there is money to be made and an opportunity to be relevant to someone, even if that someone is a complete moron.

Failed in his chosen career so went down another path, football's Laurence Fox essentially.

In so many ways this makes him worse than people who jump on his bandwagon of bullsh*t. He'll be well aware of the fallacy of his public positions, and also well aware of the negative impact it has, but he doesn't care. And the people who follow him are too ignorant to realise that.


:agree:That's basically it; social media is a swamp and Barton & his ilk know there's large numbers of bxllends waiting for clickbait like his throwback pxsh. Bullying a 17 year old lassie. Well hard.

[PHeffernan]

It's not really about him getting joy from it, he's a grifter. Nothing more, nothing less. He's not an idiot and is well aware there is money to be made and an opportunity to be relevant to someone, even if that someone is a complete moron.

Failed in his chosen career so went down another path, football's Laurence Fox essentially.

In so many ways this makes him worse than people who jump on his bandwagon of bullsh*t. He'll be well aware of the fallacy of his public positions, and also well aware of the negative impact it has, but he doesn't care. And the people who follow him are too ignorant to realise that.

That covers it.
The only good thing is that Barton is now totally toxic so he is stuck in that cul de sac of crap forever with an audience of cretins. Game over.

[LewysGot2]

Currently 1-0 up v The Rangers

[Ronniekirk]

Currently 1-0 up v The Rangers
Let’s hope we can get a win

[LewysGot2]

2 late goals for them. Currently 2-1

[Malthibby]

Unlucky, gave Rangers a real game.
Think the throw-in just before their second goal was taken way further up the pitch from where the ball went out.
Play like that for the rest of the season and we can still get 4th.

[PHeffernan]

Unlucky, gave Rangers a real game.
Think the throw-in just before their second goal was taken way further up the pitch from where the ball went out.
Play like that for the rest of the season and we can still get 4th.

That was a great effort and a sign of real progress being made

[marinello59]

That was a great effort and a sign of real progress being made

:agree:

[He's here!]

Scotland toiling again in their Euro qualifier against Slovakia. They've really regressed as a side.

No idea why they stage a game like this at Hampden. Soulless place when there's a tiny crowd.

Edit: Just gone 1-0 up.

[Brightside]

Scotland toiling again in their Euro qualifier against Slovakia. They've really regressed as a side.

No idea why they stage a game like this at Hampden. Soulless place when there's a tiny crowd.

Edit: Just gone 1-0 up.

We were awful. The coach has turned the squad into a very dull watch. Still relying on older players. Bringing in players that hardly get minutes for their club teams. Not much of it makes sense. But the SFA are just playing it lip service so don’t expect much change.

[GreenCastle]

Hearts v Hibs on Friday night - sold out at Oriam. Not sure the capacity of the venue but shame as I'm sure more would want to watch.


Any other ways to watch it ??

[marinello59]

Hearts v Hibs on Friday night - sold out at Oriam. Not sure the capacity of the venue but shame as I'm sure more would want to watch.


Any other ways to watch it ??

It will be shown live on Hearts YouTube channel.

[He's here!]

We were awful. The coach has turned the squad into a very dull watch. Still relying on older players. Bringing in players that hardly get minutes for their club teams. Not much of it makes sense. But the SFA are just playing it lip service so don’t expect much change.

It's disappointing. Used to take the kids along with a stack of their school pals to the Scotland women's games at ER a few years back and it was a good watch in a decent atmosphere.

I know they were playing England, but there were circa 35k at the Aviva Stadium last night to watch the Republic of Ireland's women's team compared to 3k at Hampden. Why do the SFA only pay the women's game lip service compared to other associations?

As you say, Martinez Losa doesn't help. He seems a pretty dour, abrasive individual.

[JimBHibees]

It's disappointing. Used to take the kids along with a stack of their school pals to the Scotland women's games at ER a few years back and it was a good watch in a decent atmosphere.

I know they were playing England, but there were circa 35k at the Aviva Stadium last night to watch the Republic of Ireland's women's team compared to 3k at Hampden. Why do the SFA only pay the women's game lip service compared to other associations?

As you say, Martinez Losa doesn't help. He seems a pretty dour, abrasive individual.

Don't take a huge degree of interest in the women's game but have watched a few games mostly tournaments and think the standard is very good at the top level. In terms of Scotland makes no sense to play games at Hampden get them at smaller grounds where a decent atmosphere can still be created. Got to hope the uptake in girls playing is reflected in the quality of coaching and facilities they get. Maybe Scotland should get Shelley back? 🤔

[He's here!]

Don't take a huge degree of interest in the women's game but have watched a few games mostly tournaments and think the standard is very good at the top level. In terms of Scotland makes no sense to play games at Hampden get them at smaller grounds where a decent atmosphere can still be created. Got to hope the uptake in girls playing is reflected in the quality of coaching and facilities they get. Maybe Scotland should get Shelley back? 🤔

Pretty sure there were not far off 20k at Hampden for a game around about the time they qualified for the World Cup in 2019, so the crowds would show up if the team was performing well. At present though, yes, a much smaller stadium would be more conducive to generating a bit of atmosphere.

[LewysGot2]

Happy birthday Siobhan Hunter - what a terrible year for her personally so hope she has a great day.

[Billy Whizz]

Hearts v Hibs on Friday night - sold out at Oriam. Not sure the capacity of the venue but shame as I'm sure more would want to watch.


Any other ways to watch it ??

500 or so seats

[oconnors_strip]

The women’s derby is live on YouTube tonight, kick off 7:30pm https://bit.ly/3JcNrO1

[oconnors_strip]

1-0 hearts

[cabbageandribs1875]

home side down to 10


can't go around trying to maim the opposition players

[oconnors_strip]

Hearts down to 10, bad tackle on Powell in centre of pitch. Really bad tackle, could have been a leg breaker!

[linlithgowhibbie]

Hertz thug forward sent off, battered our goalie and booked , 5 mins later a late tackle and off she goes!

[oconnors_strip]

Half time 1-0 to hearts

[Danderhall Hibs]

Hunter, Murray and Tweedie all starting - we must have loads of injuries?

[cabbageandribs1875]

very poor goal keeping 2-0

[wookie70]

Really poor goal to lose. Goalkeeping is much slower to develop in the women's game that the outfield play

[Bobo]

A lot of them look far too timid, slow and unfit.

They're shocking going forward and show little threat in and around the box. The defence and goalkeeper aren't up to much either.

Playing against 10 for the majority of the game didn't make the blindest bit of difference either, very poor standard compared to our ladies teams of the past.

[scottish_sleepy]

Jesus, this is making the men's team look like worldbeaters. They've gone way downhill since I watched them at ER.

[The Hibee Harp]

Awful from start to finish. I can only presume we had injuries otherwise to give a young keeper her debut in such a game is daft. She looked out of her depth and had the poorest performance I’ve seen from a Hibs keeper in a long time (if ever). So many passengers tonight. I thought Hearts looked up for it from the start and bullied us all over the park. The extra player for 70 minutes made no difference and we couldn’t have complained had the score been more! Positive mentions for Bowie and Powell who I thought gave everything tonight.

[lugz]

The result was inevitable as soon as that team sheet was released but to play against 10 for so long and still lose is salt to the wound.

Think it's time to stop showing so much loyalty to the older players in the squad, need a real freshen up next season and going to have to replace JB.

[GreenCastle]

The result was inevitable as soon as that team sheet was released but to play against 10 for so long and still lose is salt to the wound.

Think it's time to stop showing so much loyalty to the older players in the squad, need a real freshen up next season and going to have to replace JB.

Was a really weird team selection - it’s obvious several players are past it but still play.

Hearts on the other hand have a 16 year old playing where as we had slow players in key areas - mainly at the back and up front.

What’s the story with the GK ?

Really poor from Hibs - can’t see them over taking Hearts in league now with the gap and remaining fixtures.

[Malonga's Cat]

Bit of a let down tonight and we just didn't turn up, even against 10. Classic derby match, they bullied us and wanted it more. As others said, team selection was indicative of injuries and pass marks for Bowie and Powell.

First time at a match at Oriam... Not a great place to watch football.

[He's here!]

Bit of a let down tonight and we just didn't turn up, even against 10. Classic derby match, they bullied us and wanted it more. As others said, team selection was indicative of injuries and pass marks for Bowie and Powell.

First time at a match at Oriam... Not a great place to watch football.

Never been. It looked a pretty awful venue on TV tho. Why were they playing the game there? We've won the last two derbies at Tynecastle and ER in front of much better crowds.

[Bridge hibs]

Never been. It looked a pretty awful venue on TV tho. Why were they playing the game there? We've won the last two derbies at Tynecastle and ER in front of much better crowds.

Hearts are playing Livvy at Tiny today, probably wanted to keep their tiny pitch in pristine condition

[Malonga's Cat]

Never been. It looked a pretty awful venue on TV tho. Why were they playing the game there? We've won the last two derbies at Tynecastle and ER in front of much better crowds.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I see someone has said it'll be because of the Hearts Men being at home today which makes sense. I like that they tried the Friday night thing but surely there's a better option than that for a venue. TBH, I think similar for the Hibs Women at the new Meadowbank.

[GreenCastle]

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I see someone has said it'll be because of the Hearts Men being at home today which makes sense. I like that they tried the Friday night thing but surely there's a better option than that for a venue. TBH, I think similar for the Hibs Women at the new Meadowbank.

Agreed - both venues are poor and lack of facilities for fans like food and toilets. Meadowbank slightly better but still pretty crap.

Just a lack of decent facilities here for televised games that look the part. You need a capacity around 5000 but something which doesn’t look like Spartans or Oriam / Meadowbank.

It’s an issue for the women’s Scottish cup final too - playing it at Hampden which is exciting for players / coaches and probably some fans but doesn’t do anything for the occasion.

[Brightside]

Spartans is fine for pretty much every game any women’s Scottish team will play. Zero point in having a 5000 stadium when they only get about 100 fans at most games.

[lugz]

Spartans is fine for pretty much every game any women’s Scottish team will play. Zero point in having a 5000 stadium when they only get about 100 fans at most games.

Meadowbank is more than sufficient size wise for every game outside the derbies, unfortunately it’s just an awful awful place to watch football.

[GreenCastle]

Spartans is fine for pretty much every game any women’s Scottish team will play. Zero point in having a 5000 stadium when they only get about 100 fans at most games.

I think while Spartans have obviously got decent enough facilities it’s camera position isn’t high enough up and still looks like a junior ground with eh barrier around it etc.

A proper 5000 seater with good facilities and parking would be a good venue for cup finals and national team games that aren’t going to bring in larger crowds. Build it somewhere like Stirling Uni where the grass pitch / track is and you would good better crowds for cup finals etc.

Obviously over time if Hibs (moving to training centre new pitch) and Hearts want to improve they will need to improve their facilities for fans (which aren’t Tynie and ER).

Oriam / Meadowbank / Spartans just don’t sell the league on tv / YouTube etc.

[cabbageandribs1875]

didn't watch it but that's a great result for Hearts beating Rangers 1-0, first ever win against a top three side


Montrose 2 Aberdeen 3
Celtic 1 Hibernian 0
Spartans 2 Motherwell 2
Glasgow City 4 Partick Thistle 1
Hamilton Accies 5 Dundee United 2

[He's here!]

didn't watch it but that's a great result for Hearts beating Rangers 1-0, first ever win against a top three side


Montrose 2 Aberdeen 3
Celtic 1 Hibernian 0
Spartans 2 Motherwell 2
Glasgow City 4 Partick Thistle 1
Hamilton Accies 5 Dundee United 2

Looking like they're getting stronger than us in the women's game as well as the men's.

[Brightside]

Looking like they're getting stronger than us in the women's game as well as the men's.

Good coach and good players. Been some odd comings and goings last few seasons at Hibs.

[Pretty Boy]

I see Paul Greig has been announced as the new Livingston manager.

That will be a loss to the Hibs girls academy.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I see Paul Greig has been announced as the new Livingston manager.

That will be a loss to the Hibs girls academy.

He’s not been involved much on the academy side - the womens assistant manager is in charge of the academy. Maybe Paul felt he was moving more to the community side of things?

[wookie70]

I always got on really well with Paul and sad to see him go.He just replied to me on twitter and confirmed he is still at Hibs. Good news. Doing this in his spare time

[Brightside]

I see Paul Greig has been announced as the new Livingston manager.

That will be a loss to the Hibs girls academy.

None of these roles are really full time. He's managed / coached dozens of teams in the last few years.

[cabbageandribs1875]

FT's

Hibernian 0 Glasgow City 1
Partick Thistle 1 Rangers 3
Dundee United 1 Aberdeen 5
Hamilton Accies 0 Spartans 3
Motherwell 2 Montrose 1
Celtic 5 Hearts 0

[cabbageandribs1875]

Partick Thistle 3 Hibernian 2, that's three defeats in four games against PT this season
Celtic 2 Glasgow City 2
Rangers 3 Hearts 0
Dundee United 2 Hamilton Accies 1
Aberdeen 3 Montrose 3
Motherwell 4 Spartans 2


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[Chorley Hibee]

Went along last night.

Dreadfully poor performance (second half especially) and shambolic defending at times.

Inconsistent team selection and forwards increasingly isolated most weeks.

It's been a disappointing last few weeks.

[Brightside]

Went along last night.

Dreadfully poor performance (second half especially) and shambolic defending at times.

Inconsistent team selection and forwards increasingly isolated most weeks.

It's been a disappointing last few weeks.

Just like the mens team - need to invest in CBs.

[hibby rae]

Just like the mens team - need to invest in CBs.

She hasn't said anything but I wouldn't be surprised if this was Joelle's last season, just getting a bit of a vibe there

[Brightside]

She hasn't said anything but I wouldn't be surprised if this was Joelle's last season, just getting a bit of a vibe there

It not her fault that Hibs have ignored that area for years tbh. Hearts brought on a 17 year old in that area last night. Just couldn't imagine Hibs ever doing that. Hopefully the 14/16 each group will start providing some talent in a few years.

[hibby rae]

It not her fault that Hibs have ignored that area for years tbh. Hearts brought on a 17 year old in that area last night. Just couldn't imagine Hibs ever doing that. Hopefully the 14/16 each group will start providing some talent in a few years.

She's been amazing for the club, we've seen her take a bit of a step back this season and I think she's probably played more than she expected as well.

It was an error not bringing Emma Brownlie back when she was available. Only 30 now.

[He's here!]

Just like the mens team - need to invest in CBs.

Also mirroring the men's team is how far ahead of us Hearts have gone in a short space of time. We were above them not so very long ago.

[He's here!]

It not her fault that Hibs have ignored that area for years tbh. Hearts brought on a 17 year old in that area last night. Just couldn't imagine Hibs ever doing that. Hopefully the 14/16 each group will start providing some talent in a few years.

I see them in training some evenings when I'm at Meadowbank. One or two promising younger ones coming through. Quite impressed by one of the keepers.

[Brightside]

I see them in training some evenings when I'm at Meadowbank. One or two promising younger ones coming through. Quite impressed by one of the keepers.

There is a youth international keeper. Nothing much else. As I say hopefully see more now the academy appear a bit more invested. They can’t keep relying on cheap foreign players.

[Danderhall Hibs]

There is a youth international keeper. Nothing much else. As I say hopefully see more now the academy appear a bit more invested. They can’t keep relying on cheap foreign players.

There’s 2 goalies that’ve been in the Scotland squads this season and that’s the 16/18s. 14s keeper is decent too.

[PHeffernan]

Also mirroring the men's team is how far ahead of us Hearts have gone in a short space of time. We were above them not so very long ago.

It didn't help that one of our best few players, Katie Lockwood, moved to Hearts in the summer and is predictably one of the top scorers in the league along with our own Jorian Baucom. It maybe that we couldn't afford both. They are the only non OF players at clubs in the top half of the league * who have scored 15 or more league goals.

* 20 years old Bayley Hutchison of Aberdeen is putting the duffers in the bottom half of the league to the sword post split and has now scored 25 league goals this season after knocking in 3 against Dundee Utd

[cabbageandribs1875]

credible 2-2 draw after being two down at Glasgow City with the equaliser on 90+ 2 BBC ALBA on X: "Tadhal eile dha Hibernian bho Poppy Lawson 'is tha sinn co-ionnan aig làn-ùine!⚽️ A late goal from Lawson leaves things equal at full time! https://t.co/rFg38vAaCZ" / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/bbcalba/status/1787170585107149166)

have to say a very poor home crowd


FT's

Hearts 3 Partick Thistle 2
Spartans 0 Dundee United 0
Montrose 1 Motherwell 1
Hamilton Accies 3 Aberdeen 3

[marinello59]

credible 2-2 draw after being two down at Glasgow City with the equaliser on 90+ 2 BBC ALBA on X: "Tadhal eile dha Hibernian bho Poppy Lawson 'is tha sinn co-ionnan aig làn-ùine!⚽️ A late goal from Lawson leaves things equal at full time! https://t.co/rFg38vAaCZ" / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/bbcalba/status/1787170585107149166)

have to say a very poor home crowd


FT's

Hearts 3 Partick Thistle 2
Spartans 0 Dundee United 0
Montrose 1 Motherwell 1
Hamilton Accies 3 Aberdeen 3

That’s a superb comeback, well done to them.

[cabbageandribs1875]

That’s a superb comeback, well done to them.


and most likely put an end to any lingering hopes Glasgow had of winning the league

although playing sides in the bottom half Aberdeen have certainly picked up a lot of points, still with a -33 Goal Difference so obviously picked up a few hammerings over the season playing sides in the top half


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[hibby rae]

She hasn't said anything but I wouldn't be surprised if this was Joelle's last season, just getting a bit of a vibe there

Called it.

The most decorated player in the history of the club :not worth:not worth

[oconnors_strip]

It’s a sell out tonight at Meadowbank, let’s get the 3 points!

[marinello59]

It’s a sell out tonight at Meadowbank, let’s get the 3 points!

Glad it’s sold out. Fingers crossed for the win.

[GreenCastle]

The sooner Hibs get away from Meadowbank the better.

Awful dugouts - terrible camera for TV and soulless.

Really doesn’t do the women’s game any favours.

[wallpaperman]

I say this as someone who’s daughter plays at a decent level, and am a big supporter of girls grassroots football, but this is a terrible watch so far. Some of the finishing is embarrassing from both sides.

[GreenCastle]

Hibs been the better team but lack of any quality in front of goal - missing composure.

[cabbageandribs1875]

what an awful freekick that was, straight to the keeper

[oconnors_strip]

Jorian scores again! 1-0

[cabbageandribs1875]

square that and Baucom would slot it home

[cabbageandribs1875]

boom 2-0

[oconnors_strip]

What a goal by Tweedie to make it 2

[GreenCastle]

Hibs been the better team and deserved winners.

Pleasing considering Hearts recent arrogance.

[oconnors_strip]

Full time

[cabbageandribs1875]

well done the wimmin

[hibernator]

What a goal by Tweedie to make it 2

That was an absolute beauty

[oconnors_strip]

That was an absolute beauty

Even the jambo husband was aplauding

[gaz1875]

Good performance and on another day could have been 4 or 5 if the final ball was better.
Another 2 superb goals following on from Sunday. :top marks

[cabbageandribs1875]

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[Sloop67]

Excellent result

[scm70nyd1973]

Excellent result

Well done girls - spring in the step for me tonight 🤭😁

[Brightside]

Really poor game tonight. hearts struggled to sting a few passes together. Tweedies goal was worth the admission tho.

[Malonga's Cat]

Good result tonight and thought we deserved it. Nice to see a decent crowd and some finish for the second!

[JimBHibees]

Great result:flag:

[Not In The Know]

Really poor game tonight. hearts struggled to sting a few passes together. Tweedies goal was worth the admission tho.

sounds like a report from any Edinburgh Derby. Male or female.

[et_hibby]

sounds like a report from any Edinburgh Derby. Male or female.
Much wisdom (and experience!) in this post!

[hibby rae]

Hibs win the derby and the night sky turns green and purple

[marinello59]

Kirsty Morrison, sponsored by hibs.net, named in the team of the week.
Well done to her. :thumbsup:

[cabbageandribs1875]

Joelle Murray was presented with a gift by Fiona Mcintyre, managing director of the SWPL


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[cabbageandribs1875]

FT Hibernian 2 Rangers 3, unfortunately left it too late with two goals in the last 15 mins after being down 0-3

FT Hearts 1 Celtic 3

Aberdeen 1 Dundee U 1
Motherwell 1 Hamilton 1
Partick 0 Glasgow City 0

[cabbageandribs1875]

Amy Gallacher getting the league winning goal on 90 mins at parkhead FT Celtic 1 Hibernian 0, league winners on GD

Rangers 4 Partick 0
Glasgow City 2 Hearts 0
Dundee united 0 Motherwell 1
Hamilton 0 Montrose 3
Spartans 2 Aberdeen 1

[He's here!]

Amy Gallacher getting the league winning goal on 90 mins at parkhead FT Celtic 1 Hibernian 0, league winners on GD

Rangers 4 Partick 0
Glasgow City 2 Hearts 0
Dundee united 0 Motherwell 1
Hamilton 0 Montrose 3
Spartans 2 Aberdeen 1

Hibs should have won.

Double title celebration for Celtic in the same weekend. Hope they're better behaved tonight.

[lugz]

The ladies were brilliant today, put in a tough shift on a very hot day. On another day we could have been a couple up.
Great to see Joelle getting such a great reception when being subbed off. Another legend has played their final game.

[hibby rae]

Leah Eddie's away, that's a massive loss. Bit shocked about it actually, I was hoping she'd be the linchpin at the back moving forwards. Hopefully it's a move south and not to Glasgow.

Baucom also away but I was expecting that, would have been nice though.

See the link for a full update.

https://x.com/HibernianWomen/status/1795832364142080406?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[He's here!]

Leah Eddie's away, that's a massive loss. Bit shocked about it actually, I was hoping she'd be the linchpin at the back moving forwards. Hopefully it's a move south and not to Glasgow.

Baucom also away but I was expecting that, would have been nice though.

See the link for a full update.

https://x.com/HibernianWomen/status/1795832364142080406?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Yes, that's a blow losing both of them.

[hibby rae]

Yes, that's a blow losing both of them.

Especially with Leah, I think she will probably be announced in the very near future as having gone west.

I imagine Jorian will move abroad. I'm assuming visas must come into it but the American players never stay for more than a season.

[marinello59]

Leah Eddie's away, that's a massive loss. Bit shocked about it actually, I was hoping she'd be the linchpin at the back moving forwards. Hopefully it's a move south and not to Glasgow.

Baucom also away but I was expecting that, would have been nice though.

See the link for a full update.

https://x.com/HibernianWomen/status/1795832364142080406?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Huge loss, sorry to see both of them go.

[lugz]

Who’s running things on the ladies side as it’s not being managed at all well? Letting Katie Lockwood walk and sign for their rivals now letting Leah walk on a free, she should have been tied down to a contract with some form of selling on fee to allow her to progress her career. No doubt Leah will be signing with Rangers.

Naomi is also a big loss in midfield, effectively losing the spine of the team, massive summer ahead for a team who’ve been going backwards in recent years.

[hibby rae]

Who’s running things on the ladies side as it’s not being managed at all well? Letting Katie Lockwood walk and sign for their rivals now letting Leah walk on a free, she should have been tied down to a contract with some form of selling on fee to allow her to progress her career. No doubt Leah will be signing with Rangers.

Naomi is also a big loss in midfield, effectively losing the spine of the team, massive summer ahead for a team who’ve been going backwards in recent years.

Powell must be a via thing as well.

Losing Lockwood was dumb, although negated this season by Baucom it doesn't matter if we could have had the former on a longer deal than the one season you'll get from the latter.

I always saw this most recent season as a bit of a reset, the team played better and although the league position didn't improve from the previous one the right signs were there. Obviously losing key players doesn't help moving forwards.

[Brightside]

Who’s running things on the ladies side as it’s not being managed at all well? Letting Katie Lockwood walk and sign for their rivals now letting Leah walk on a free, she should have been tied down to a contract with some form of selling on fee to allow her to progress her career. No doubt Leah will be signing with Rangers.

Naomi is also a big loss in midfield, effectively losing the spine of the team, massive summer ahead for a team who’ve been going backwards in recent years.

Not really much they can do. The girls are on pretty much national wage contracts. As soon as a contract finishes they will try and get a bit more somewhere else. Hearts have lost a fair amount too (including Lockwood and Grant - arguably their best players) The biggest issue is the lack of youth coming through. Hibs cannot afford to keep hiring in foreign talent with all the extra expense that entails.

For the better players if they want to move on with their career and also confirm Scotland places they need to be at a bigger team than Hibs.

[Brightside]

Scotish players Hibs should be aiming to sign.

Erin Clachers Glasgow City
Jess Broadrick Aberdeen
Morgan Cross Motherwell
Bayley Hutchison Aberdeen
Emma Lawton Partick Thistle
Maria McAneny Celtic
Mia McAulay Rangers
Kathleen McGovern Free
Jodi McLeary Rangers
Eilidh Shore Aberdeen
Jenny Smith Celtic
Laura Berry Rangers.

Very hard to get any of the old firm players but the others should all be attainable.

[s.a.m]

Rangers have just announced Leah Eddie

[Forza Fred]

NHC but women’s football related.

Full time just blown in a Matildas v China friendly which ended 1-1.

On a cold winter’s night in Adelaide the crowd was just under 53,000.

53000!

[cabbageandribs1875]

Scotland 1 Israel 0, Emslie

2-0

3-0, Emslie


Hibs Women have confirmed the signing of Australian defender Stacey Papadopoulos on a two-year deal

[He's here!]

Scotland 1 Israel 0, Emslie

2-0

Scotland will be far too strong for that Israeli line-up.

I hear some eejit chained themselves to the goalposts before the game. About as daft as those protesting at b****y Eurovision!

[He's here!]

NHC but women’s football related.

Full time just blown in a Matildas v China friendly which ended 1-1.

On a cold winter’s night in Adelaide the crowd was just under 53,000.

53000!

That's brilliant.

[04Sauzee]

NHC but women’s football related.

Full time just blown in a Matildas v China friendly which ended 1-1.

On a cold winter’s night in Adelaide the crowd was just under 53,000.

53000!

Watched the content Hibs women put out on their new signing from the women's A league and from the highlights it looked well supported.

[DaveF]

Scotland will be far too strong for that Israeli line-up.

I hear some eejit chained themselves to the goalposts before the game. About as daft as those protesting at b****y Eurovision!

What's wrong with a democratic protest against a country who kill indiscriminately?

[Forza Fred]

That's brilliant.

They play each other again in a friendly in Sydney on Monday night.

Expectations are that crowd will exceed 70,000.

A League women’s league still playing to small crowds but the Matildas have been embraced by the entire population, regardless of age, sex etc etc.

Seems just about every little girl’s dream here now is to grow up and play for the Matildas.

Fantastic that they have their own role models, and fantastic how the Matildas engage with their fans.

If you want an example of a masterclass when it comes to football marketing…..then the Matildas it is.

[davhibby]

Watched the content Hibs women put out on their new signing from the women's A league and from the highlights it looked well supported.

Given the quality of the international side I’d imagine the A league is a pretty good standard. Would seem that getting a starter from a team that’s done well in it is a really good pick up

[JimBHibees]

What's wrong with a democratic protest against a country who kill indiscriminately?

Absolutely nothing.

[Forza Fred]

Given the quality of the international side I’d imagine the A league is a pretty good standard. Would seem that getting a starter from a team that’s done well in it is a really good pick up

Was a surprising move tbh.

I think there is more money playing in the A League than in Scotland, but there are very few local Oz players who play in the national team, so I’m not sure the national team is a good barometer of the local league.

You are much more likely to see Aussie players playing for Arsenal, Man City, Tottenham, Paris St Germain, Lyon, Real Madrid etc playing for the Matildas than those who play at home……so in that context I’m not sure the relative ‘standards’ of each local league really indicates that much.

I would be untruthful if I said I had seen much of our latest acquisition……yes on occasion, but not enough to say she was a household name.

It’s off season in Oz just now and it’s not unheard of for players to play partly in both the A League (it’s very short) and in the English league in the same season.

I’ve seen the videos of her now, and yes, she strikes me as a very decent player who will do well at Hibs.

I’ll be watching with interest.

[ozwoody]

They play each other again in a friendly in Sydney on Monday night.

Expectations are that crowd will exceed 70,000.

A League women’s league still playing to small crowds but the Matildas have been embraced by the entire population, regardless of age, sex etc etc.

Seems just about every little girl’s dream here now is to grow up and play for the Matildas.

Fantastic that they have their own role models, and fantastic how the Matildas engage with their fans.

If you want an example of a masterclass when it comes to football marketing…..then the Matildas it is.

76,700 at tonight's Matildas game, awesome attendance again.

[He's here!]

76,700 at tonight's Matildas game, awesome attendance again.

That's extraordinary. Brilliant to see those sort of numbers watching women's football.

Scotland women have just won 5-0 in another closed-doors clash with Israel, this time in Budapest.

[Pretty Boy]

Was a surprising move tbh.

I think there is more money playing in the A League than in Scotland, but there are very few local Oz players who play in the national team, so I’m not sure the national team is a good barometer of the local league.

You are much more likely to see Aussie players playing for Arsenal, Man City, Tottenham, Paris St Germain, Lyon, Real Madrid etc playing for the Matildas than those who play at home……so in that context I’m not sure the relative ‘standards’ of each local league really indicates that much.

I would be untruthful if I said I had seen much of our latest acquisition……yes on occasion, but not enough to say she was a household name.

It’s off season in Oz just now and it’s not unheard of for players to play partly in both the A League (it’s very short) and in the English league in the same season.

I’ve seen the videos of her now, and yes, she strikes me as a very decent player who will do well at Hibs.

I’ll be watching with interest.

I always wonder if part of the success of women's football in the US and Australia is because there isn't the same football culture in these countries. There still seems a deep seated bitterness among some here that women have dared to invade a 'mans game' and attempts to market the game or push it to a wider audience are 'shoving it down our throats'.

The sneering contempt and barely repressed anger just doesn't seem as prevalent in other sports. Women's athletics, tennis, swimming etc is treated as of equal importance to the men's game. Even a traditionally male sport like boxing has seen women draw huge crowds and earn praise for their skills yet football still seems to engender a weird 'I don't care' bitterness at best or outright mocking at worst.

Hopefully we can move past it because women's football isn't going anywhere and thankfully so. Participation at grassroots level is through the roof and why shouldn't young girls aspire to play in front of similar crowds to their male counterparts?

[He's here!]

I always wonder if part of the success of women's football in the US and Australia is because there isn't the same football culture in these countries. There still seems a deep seated bitterness among some here that women have dared to invade a 'mans game' and attempts to market the game or push it to a wider audience are 'shoving it down our throats'.

The sneering contempt and barely repressed anger just doesn't seem as prevalent in other sports. Women's athletics, tennis, swimming etc is treated as of equal importance to the men's game. Even a traditionally male sport like boxing has seen women draw huge crowds and earn praise for their skills yet football still seems to engender a weird 'I don't care' bitterness at best or outright mocking at worst.

Hopefully we can move past it because women's football isn't going anywhere and thankfully so. Participation at grassroots level is through the roof and why shouldn't young girls aspire to play in front of similar crowds to their male counterparts?

Think you're probably right about the likes of the US and Australia, where men's football isn't entrenched as the No 1 sport, but in saying that the crowds for women's international football in England are exceptional, fuelled of course by the team's success. The London clubs in particular also draw huge crowds, way bigger than any Scottish men's teams bar Rangers and Celtic.

It's a shame the women's game remains so bereft of decent crowds up here. When Scotland played at ER rather than rattling around Hampden there was a decent atmosphere and the standard of play was, in my view, better than many believed. Hibs, too, when we were vying with Glasgow City as the top two in Scotland, were often good to watch.

[Forza Fred]

I always wonder if part of the success of women's football in the US and Australia is because there isn't the same football culture in these countries. There still seems a deep seated bitterness among some here that women have dared to invade a 'mans game' and attempts to market the game or push it to a wider audience are 'shoving it down our throats'.

The sneering contempt and barely repressed anger just doesn't seem as prevalent in other sports. Women's athletics, tennis, swimming etc is treated as of equal importance to the men's game. Even a traditionally male sport like boxing has seen women draw huge crowds and earn praise for their skills yet football still seems to engender a weird 'I don't care' bitterness at best or outright mocking at worst.

Hopefully we can move past it because women's football isn't going anywhere and thankfully so. Participation at grassroots level is through the roof and why shouldn't young girls aspire to play in front of similar crowds to their male counterparts?

I think you are right in part.
I still have old fart Scottish born friends here with 1950 attitudes who scoff at the idea of girls playing football…of whatever code.

There are also women’s AFL and Rugby League competitions that are gaining audiences…but the Matildas are Australia’s most loved side…..and attracted the highest tv ratings EVER in Oz during the last World Cup.

Different atmosphere at their games…..more of excited people going to a pop concert than that of tribal warriors going to battle….many who are quite open about the fact that they may not know all the rules of the game.

Participation rates among females have soared.

Mind you, when it comes to connection with their supporters…the girls are superb.

Monty got pelters for it at Ross Cty, but win, lose or draw the players will make time for selfies, autographs etc whenever they can…and even in the A League the after match engagement with supporters is normal.

It’s even got to the point where supporters of all ages ..mainly young kids….gather outside the Matildas players’ hotel hoping to get photos taken on non match days when any of them go for a walk!

Different level stuff.

[lugz]

Shannon McGregor now announced as leaving, very concerning times for the ladies team. Going to need a massive overhaul to even be slightly competitive.

[number9dream]

Shannon McGregor now announced as leaving, very concerning times for the ladies team. Going to need a massive overhaul to even be slightly competitive.

Away to Celtic…

[lugz]

Away to Celtic…

Just saw this, unfortunately these girls are getting offered more money, the opportunity to win trophies, probably better chance of playing for Scotland. Womens game turning into the mens, Shame.

[Pretty Boy]

Just saw this, unfortunately these girls are getting offered more money, the opportunity to win trophies, probably better chance of playing for Scotland. Womens game turning into the mens, Shame.

Just said much the same elsewhere.

There was an inevitability about it as soon as that pair started taking it seriously but it's sad all the same.

Clubs like Hibs, Glasgow City, Forfar Farmington and so on done the hard yards for years growing and developing the game and much like the men's game everyone bar the big 2 are relegated to also ran (Glasgow City might hang onto the coat tails for a wee bit longer yet I suppose).

[marinello59]

Away to Celtic…

Gutted. Good luck to her but we have lost one of our better players, she won’t be easy to replace.

[wallpaperman]

Just saw this, unfortunately these girls are getting offered more money, the opportunity to win trophies, probably better chance of playing for Scotland. Womens game turning into the mens, Shame.

Yep, the women’s game is done in Scotland. The crowds are already very small, and the recent old firm spending sprees will mean the interest level plummeting further. Hibs will attempt to cling to their coattails by bringing in foreign journeywomen. Very sad.

[hibby rae]

Gutted. Good luck to her but we have lost one of our better players, she won’t be easy to replace.

I'm actually a bit surprised about this move. I've always been a fan of Shannon's ever since we signed her, and at the time I thought she might go far, but she was usually reliable without being the superstar in the team, had some injury issues, and I thought Hibs was now the ceiling.

[PHeffernan]

I'm actually a bit surprised about this move. I've always been a fan of Shannon's ever since we signed her, and at the time I thought she might go far, but she was usually reliable without being the superstar in the team, had some injury issues, and I thought Hibs was now the ceiling.


Looking like 5th again for Hibs women next season. Worst of the full time clubs.
We have recruited Stacey Papadopoulis and hopefully Rachael Boyle finally makes a more than fleeting return although i have my doubts after so many seasons lost to pregnancy and serious injury.

Who is the best player left at Hibs after losing Jorian Baucom, Leah Eddie and Naomi Powell?

[BlackSheep]

Hopefully some of the younger players coming through will turn out to be able replacements for those that have left. Big boots to fill!!

[Brightside]

Hopefully some of the younger players coming through will turn out to be able replacements for those that have left. Big boots to fill!!

Will be a few years till anything comes through. Nothing at 18s level.

[He's here!]

Just saw this, unfortunately these girls are getting offered more money, the opportunity to win trophies, probably better chance of playing for Scotland. Womens game turning into the mens, Shame.

I see she's saying she's a "massive Celtic fan" so even that aspect of the game is similar to the men's when a player joins one of the Old Firm.

[He's here!]

Will be a few years till anything comes through. Nothing at 18s level.

Why is there nothing at that level? They seem to have healthy numbers training across the age groups at Meadowbank.

[marinello59]

I see she's saying she's a "massive Celtic fan" so even that aspect of the game is similar to the men's when a player joins one of the Old Firm.

She genuinely is though.

[Brightside]

Why is there nothing at that level? They seem to have healthy numbers training across the age groups at Meadowbank.

Coz we ignored youth for years. Massively playing catch up on Hearts (who have 2 youth player 17/18 both playing for first team (Husband sisters) and more coming behind Brodie Greenwood. We have zero around the Scotland youth squads and its going to take a while to catch up. The best young players are not at Hibs right now.

[Danderhall Hibs]

.

Who is the best player left at Hibs after losing Jorian Baucom, Leah Eddie and Naomi Powell?

Probably Mcalonie - wouldn’t be surprised if someone is in for her.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Why is there nothing at that level? They seem to have healthy numbers training across the age groups at Meadowbank.

The 18s are struggling - the link with the community side and not being an academy hasn’t been helpful. Lost players due to that and in reality Joelle Murray wasn’t exactly hands on.

It’s been positively changing over the last 12-18 months but like Brightside says it’s a catch up.

[PHeffernan]

Probably Mcalonie - wouldn’t be surprised if someone is in for her.

Michaela has great playing attributes, like her passing range, composure, stamina and tenacity.
My one negative takeaway from the few times I have seen Michaela play was that she doesn't run like an athlete.

[superfurryhibby]

I always wonder if part of the success of women's football in the US and Australia is because there isn't the same football culture in these countries. There still seems a deep seated bitterness among some here that women have dared to invade a 'mans game' and attempts to market the game or push it to a wider audience are 'shoving it down our throats'.

The sneering contempt and barely repressed anger just doesn't seem as prevalent in other sports. Women's athletics, tennis, swimming etc is treated as of equal importance to the men's game. Even a traditionally male sport like boxing has seen women draw huge crowds and earn praise for their skills yet football still seems to engender a weird 'I don't care' bitterness at best or outright mocking at worst.

Hopefully we can move past it because women's football isn't going anywhere and thankfully so. Participation at grassroots level is through the roof and why shouldn't young girls aspire to play in front of similar crowds to their male counterparts?

It's an interesting debate.

I'm all for women playing football, at any level. However, I don't understand why Hibs have a full time women's team. Why is it necessary? I can see that the big English teams see some commercial benefit and that there is a market to exploit, but that surely isn't the case up here.

I'm all for funding participation, think's it's a healthy area for community investment, but fail to see the need for professional players and a management team etc. Maybe this is part of the scepticism about women's football?

In terms of bitterness or patronising attitudes, who knows. Maybe folk know that the standard is very low and that even an elite women's side will be beaten by under 16 juvenile laddies side. With tennis or swimming for example, I guess that elite women still compete at a level way above decent male club level. Not so sure how boxing levels would translate across gender though.

[McD]

It's an interesting debate.

I'm all for women playing football, at any level. However, I don't understand why Hibs have a full time women's team. Why is it necessary? I can see that the big English teams see some commercial benefit and that there is a market to exploit, but that surely isn't the case up here.

I'm all for funding participation, think's it's a healthy area for community investment, but fail to see the need for professional players and a management team etc. Maybe this is part of the scepticism about women's football?

In terms of bitterness or patronising attitudes, who knows. Maybe folk know that the standard is very low and that even an elite women's side will be beaten by under 16 juvenile laddies side. With tennis or swimming for example, I guess that elite women still compete at a level way above decent male club level. Not so sure how boxing levels would translate across gender though.


I thought we only had a few of the team as full time, with most of them being part time, which is why we tend to lose our best players quickly as other teams do offer full time, and higher wages

[Brightside]

I thought we only had a few of the team as full time, with most of them being part time, which is why we tend to lose our best players quickly as other teams do offer full time, and higher wages

The vast majority are on full time contracts. But pay wise you’d get more working in macdonalds. Even at rangers etc the money isn’t great. So any girl wanting to make a living from it really needs to be getting down south if they are good enough. The other post making comparisons to boys football just isn’t worth going in to again. It’s women’s football not men’s / boys whatever. Zero point making a comparison. It’s does have to start living within its own means though. The team needs to bring in the sponsorship to afford to pay them more. Without that it’s just not going to improve. There are no more people watching the games at Meadowbank, that used to watch when they played out in Broxburn. Move the games to Easter rd whenever possible. Create a package for current STs. Free kids entry up to 18.

Needs a lot of change if it’s not going to drift back to amateur level imo.

[blackpoolhibs]

The vast majority are on full time contracts. But pay wise you’d get more working in macdonalds. Even at rangers etc the money isn’t great. So any girl wanting to make a living from it really needs to be getting down south if they are good enough. The other post making comparisons to boys football just isn’t worth going in to again. It’s women’s football not men’s / boys whatever. Zero point making a comparison. It’s does have to start living within its own means though. The team needs to bring in the sponsorship to afford to pay them more. Without that it’s just not going to improve. There are no more people watching the games at Meadowbank, that used to watch when they played out in Broxburn. Move the games to Easter rd whenever possible. Create a package for current STs. Free kids entry up to 18.

Needs a lot of change if it’s not going to drift back to amateur level imo.

Did you not tell me that crowds would rise in the woman's game, and the mens game would also see growth in it's attendance with the improvement of the woman's game?

And when you say it needs a lot of change, you really mean money dont you?

[superfurryhibby]

I thought we only had a few of the team as full time, with most of them being part time, which is why we tend to lose our best players quickly as other teams do offer full time, and higher wages

I'm happy to stand corrected on that, I thought we had full time players and coaching staff.

[superfurryhibby]

The vast majority are on full time contracts. But pay wise you’d get more working in macdonalds. Even at rangers etc the money isn’t great. So any girl wanting to make a living from it really needs to be getting down south if they are good enough. The other post making comparisons to boys football just isn’t worth going in to again. It’s women’s football not men’s / boys whatever. Zero point making a comparison. It’s does have to start living within its own means though. The team needs to bring in the sponsorship to afford to pay them more. Without that it’s just not going to improve. There are no more people watching the games at Meadowbank, that used to watch when they played out in Broxburn. Move the games to Easter rd whenever possible. Create a package for current STs. Free kids entry up to 18.

Needs a lot of change if it’s not going to drift back to amateur level imo.

Our women teams pay must surely be minimum wage, so why would they get paid less than people working in MacDonalds?

Pretty Boy asked the question around why some men scoff at women's football. I made the point that the standards of the other sports he mentioned have huge gulfs between elite female competitors and club level male competitors, hence why I said that doesn't apply to the women's game (making the well known comparison about how it compares in terms of quality to youth age male football) and why this might be a factor around men might find the idea of so much commercial investment in the women's game quite risible?

I wouldn't want to see our pitch being used more than necessary, why should the women's team play on it and not every other age group team etc.

[The Modfather]

When is the next woman’s team fixture and where do they play? My daughter hasn’t shown any interest in football, which is fine, but seemed open to trying the ladies team so hoped to take her to a game this summer.

Had a quick Look online but suspect, like the men’s team, there’s no pre season fixtures announced yet.

[WeAreHibs]

The vast majority are on full time contracts. But pay wise you’d get more working in macdonalds. Even at rangers etc the money isn’t great. So any girl wanting to make a living from it really needs to be getting down south if they are good enough. The other post making comparisons to boys football just isn’t worth going in to again. It’s women’s football not men’s / boys whatever. Zero point making a comparison. It’s does have to start living within its own means though. The team needs to bring in the sponsorship to afford to pay them more. Without that it’s just not going to improve. There are no more people watching the games at Meadowbank, that used to watch when they played out in Broxburn. Move the games to Easter rd whenever possible. Create a package for current STs. Free kids entry up to 18.

Needs a lot of change if it’s not going to drift back to amateur level imo.

Perhaps amateur level is where it should be until it becomes a sustainable no brainer. A bit of honest reality is needed regarding the ladies game rather than wishful thinking and to appease a very small percentage of the clubs support.

[He's here!]

It's an interesting debate.

I'm all for women playing football, at any level. However, I don't understand why Hibs have a full time women's team. Why is it necessary? I can see that the big English teams see some commercial benefit and that there is a market to exploit, but that surely isn't the case up here.

I'm all for funding participation, think's it's a healthy area for community investment, but fail to see the need for professional players and a management team etc. Maybe this is part of the scepticism about women's football?

In terms of bitterness or patronising attitudes, who knows. Maybe folk know that the standard is very low and that even an elite women's side will be beaten by under 16 juvenile laddies side. With tennis or swimming for example, I guess that elite women still compete at a level way above decent male club level. Not so sure how boxing levels would translate across gender though.

Do elite women in the sports you mention really compete way above men at a lower level? Women still play best of three sets at tennis rather than five, even at the top level for example.

'They're not as good as men' seems seems a lazy argument with which to put down women's football. Women's sport is a separate entity to men's.

[McD]

The vast majority are on full time contracts. But pay wise you’d get more working in macdonalds. Even at rangers etc the money isn’t great. So any girl wanting to make a living from it really needs to be getting down south if they are good enough. The other post making comparisons to boys football just isn’t worth going in to again. It’s women’s football not men’s / boys whatever. Zero point making a comparison. It’s does have to start living within its own means though. The team needs to bring in the sponsorship to afford to pay them more. Without that it’s just not going to improve. There are no more people watching the games at Meadowbank, that used to watch when they played out in Broxburn. Move the games to Easter rd whenever possible. Create a package for current STs. Free kids entry up to 18.

Needs a lot of change if it’s not going to drift back to amateur level imo.


I'm happy to stand corrected on that, I thought we had full time players and coaching staff.



Seems it was me that was off mate :aok: appreciate the info Brightside 😊

[Malthibby]

'I wouldn't want to see our pitch being used more than necessary, why should the women's team play on it and not every other age group team etc.' QUOTE

Afraid I do think this is lazy - it's the women's team, nothing to do with age group teams etc.
If the SFA hadn't been so determined to ban women's football many years ago it might already be operating at a higher level
in Scotland - that was a decision by stupid men who thought women should be wives and mothers and little else.
We're going to struggle to match the English Women's game, but then our men's game doesn't match the English version either
and that's not been a reason for giving up.
Half the population is female, the idea that the women's game shouldn't be supported is mental.
I see far more women at matches than was the case in the 1970, 1980, 1990, having a viable women's team
isn't just an obvious thing to support, it has an a positive effect generally and means the club feels and is more welcoming.
I remember the 'olden days' of standing on terraces surrounded by drunks pxssing in beer cans (on a good day), bile pouring out too many throats;
I wouldn't want that sad macho environment back again.
Women are (largely, always exceptions) civilising and football is the better for their increasing presence and that has to include properly
funded women's teams.

[He's here!]

'I wouldn't want to see our pitch being used more than necessary, why should the women's team play on it and not every other age group team etc.' QUOTE

Afraid I do think this is lazy - it's the women's team, nothing to do with age group teams etc.
If the SFA hadn't been so determined to ban women's football many years ago it might already be operating at a higher level
in Scotland - that was a decision by stupid men who thought women should be wives and mothers and little else.
We're going to struggle to match the English Women's game, but then our men's game doesn't match the English version either
and that's not been a reason for giving up.
Half the population is female, the idea that the women's game shouldn't be supported is mental.
I see far more women at matches than was the case in the 1970, 1980, 1990, having a viable women's team
isn't just an obvious thing to support, it has an a positive effect generally and means the club feels and is more welcoming.
I remember the 'olden days' of standing on terraces surrounded by drunks pxssing in beer cans (on a good day), bile pouring out too many throats;
I wouldn't want that sad macho environment back again.
Women are (largely, always exceptions) civilising and football is the better for their increasing presence and that has to include properly
funded women's teams.

These are good points.

You just need to see how many girls teams are training at weekends these days to understand the potential of the women's game. It's a while since my kids were at primary school but I remember Saturday morning football for girls getting introduced for the first time back then and now they have as many teams playing as the boys.

As you mention earlier in your post the powers that be in Scotland do appear to be especially closed-minded when it comes to embracing the women's game.

[Brightside]

Did you not tell me that crowds would rise in the woman's game, and the mens game would also see growth in it's attendance with the improvement of the woman's game?

And when you say it needs a lot of change, you really mean money dont you?

Other countries the crowds are rocketing. The SFA are paying the game lip service and its struggling because of that. Far too much time spent encouraging "growing" the game at the recreational level and no time and effort spent on the elite side of the game. Scottish top teams have stagnated as has the national teams, and as a nation they are now being left behind.

[Brightside]

Our women teams pay must surely be minimum wage, so why would they get paid less than people working in MacDonalds?

Pretty Boy asked the question around why some men scoff at women's football. I made the point that the standards of the other sports he mentioned have huge gulfs between elite female competitors and club level male competitors, hence why I said that doesn't apply to the women's game (making the well known comparison about how it compares in terms of quality to youth age male football) and why this might be a factor around men might find the idea of so much commercial investment in the women's game quite risible?

I wouldn't want to see our pitch being used more than necessary, why should the women's team play on it and not every other age group team etc.

Macdonalds pay minimum wage and above. I don't think there is any suggestion that the Hibs Women aren't on more than minimum wage. But in reality its a paltry figure and any girl playing pro football in Scotland isn't making a decent living from it.

[WeAreHibs]

Macdonalds pay minimum wage and above. I don't think there is any suggestion that the Hibs Women aren't on more than minimum wage. But in reality its a paltry figure and any girl playing pro football in Scotland isn't making a decent living from it.

Isn't that part of the problem though? Where does the money come from to pay a decent wage if they're not generating it? I'm all for other teams under the club banner but they have to make business sense in the same way that lower league teams need to. Most of those lower teams are struggling with greater attendances! You can't give away free tickets and claim there was X amount of a crowd when the reality is that barely a couple of hundred paid at the gate.

[PHeffernan]

Other countries the crowds are rocketing. The SFA are paying the game lip service and its struggling because of that. Far too much time spent encouraging "growing" the game at the recreational level and no time and effort spent on the elite side of the game. Scottish top teams have stagnated as has the national teams, and as a nation they are now being left behind.

If we take England as an example, their population is 13 times the size of Scotland and they have mega rich clubs who have chucked money at the womens game as they did the mens. Sadly a small nation of 5.5 million and modest clubs is never going to be able to do the same.
Rantic are starting to push ahead now, Glasgow City have been detached for the first time and will fall slowly towards Hearts who are improving season on season but Hibs are floundering after losing 4 good players including the best player in the league outside of Rantic. Beyond those 5 clubs there is nothing.

I have no idea of Hibs womens current annual budget and the levels of their income streams.
However, for me the best way to get Hibs womens team money and larger crowds would be to give them 20 quid from each season ticket sold. That would give them circa 230k plus whatever sponsorship and commercial deals they can do themselves. Each season ticket holder would then be entitled to attend all Hibs womens home games. That would boost crowds and matchday revenue substantially. Larger crowds would also attract more commercial sponsors.

[Forza Fred]

I think it’s only a matter of time in Scotland before women’s football really takes off.

Attitudes are a bit harder to change in Scotland maybe, but once young girls can relate to ‘heroes’ on the park, crowd numbers…at the elite level anyway, will soar.

Just give ‘em something to believe in and aspire to.

Sorry to keep going on about the Matildas, but they really ARE a case study of what to do right, and Scotland could do well to learn from them.

They just played two ‘meaningless’ friendlies……one in Adelaide and one in Sydney 4 days apart and attracted over 130,000 spectators combined.

Their World Cup game against France last year is the most watched tv event EVER in the history of television.

The scenes going to, coming from and attending one of their games come across more like the vibe of a Taylor Swift concert than that of a tribal fitba match.

The societal benefits are enormous too….a huge recent upsurge in participant rates, leading to healthier and happier kids.

Scotland, either on its own or with partners should make a realistic bid to stage the women’s World Cup, Euros etc etc as soon and as often as it can.
The Women’s officials should also take a trip to Oz to pick the brains of those down here who run the women’s game.

This love in with the Matildas didn’t just happen by accident…..several of the current squad can recall playing internationals when they played in front of very low crowds.

Now they get bigger crowds than they did back then turning up for their training sessions!

[WeAreHibs]

I think it’s only a matter of time in Scotland before women’s football really takes off.

Attitudes are a bit harder to change in Scotland maybe, but once young girls can relate to ‘heroes’ on the park, crowd numbers…at the elite level anyway, will soar.

Just give ‘em something to believe in and aspire to.

Sorry to keep going on about the Matildas, but they really ARE a case study of what to do right, and Scotland could do well to learn from them.

They just played two ‘meaningless’ friendlies……one in Adelaide and one in Sydney 4 days apart and attracted over 130,000 spectators combined.

Their World Cup game against France last year is the most watched tv event EVER in the history of television.

The scenes going to, coming from and attending one of their games come across more like the vibe of a Taylor Swift concert than that of a tribal fitba match.

The societal benefits are enormous too….a huge recent upsurge in participant rates, leading to healthier and happier kids.

Scotland, either on its own or with partners should make a realistic bid to stage the women’s World Cup, Euros etc etc as soon and as often as it can.
The Women’s officials should also take a trip to Oz to pick the brains of those down here who run the women’s game.

This love in with the Matildas didn’t just happen by accident…..several of the current squad can recall playing internationals when they played in front of very low crowds.

Now they get bigger crowds than they did back then turning up for their training sessions!


Saying "the most watched tv event EVER in the history of television." is quite the exaggeration when the final was watched by almost 10x.

"The FIFA Women's World Cup final, which England lost 1-0 to Spain at Stadium Australia, was 2023's most-watched women's sport event on TV with 38.4 million viewing hours. Preliminary television ratings show an average of about 4.17 million people were watching the Matildas take on France in what is understood to be one of the most-watched sporting events across Australia in the past two decades."

[superfurryhibby]

These are good points.

You just need to see how many girls teams are training at weekends these days to understand the potential of the women's game. It's a while since my kids were at primary school but I remember Saturday morning football for girls getting introduced for the first time back then and now they have as many teams playing as the boys.

As you mention earlier in your post the powers that be in Scotland do appear to be especially closed-minded when it comes to embracing the women's game.


So at grass roots level there are many girls playing as boys at younger age groups. That suggests to me that the women's game is being well supported? How does that then equate with the powers that be being closed minded about women's football?



Isn't that part of the problem though? Where does the money come from to pay a decent wage if they're not generating it? I'm all for other teams under the club banner but they have to make business sense in the same way that lower league teams need to. Most of those lower teams are struggling with greater attendances! You can't give away free tickets and claim there was X amount of a crowd when the reality is that barely a couple of hundred paid at the gate.

I think this is my point too. Why do we need to pay players? Can't the game be promoted as an amateur sport? If there is no demand to watch or get involved commercially, do we expect clubs to subsidise women's football when the majority of Scottish clubs live on a hand to mouth existence basis.

I'm sure we can all agree that participation in sport is good for everyone, but Scotland's game is not comparable to the game in England, where the clubs are trying to create a product that has commercial potential.

Maybe here we need to recognise that the market for women's football is a very different one from that of global brands down south, a bit of a reality check needed.

[Brightside]

So at grass roots level there are many girls playing as boys at younger age groups. That suggests to me that the women's game is being well supported? How does that then equate with the powers that be being closed minded about women's football?




I think this is my point too. Why do we need to pay players? Can't the game be promoted as an amateur sport? If there is no demand to watch or get involved commercially, do we expect clubs to subsidise women's football when the majority of Scottish clubs live on a hand to mouth existence basis.

I'm sure we can all agree that participation in sport is good for everyone, but Scotland's game is not comparable to the game in England, where the clubs are trying to create a product that has commercial potential.

Maybe here we need to recognise that the market for women's football is a very different one from that of global brands down south, a bit of a reality check needed.

The elite level has to be pro otherwise they fall further behind the rest of the leagues in Europe. How they pay for that is the big issue they have. Even Rangers and Celtic dont get the crowds to generate the money they are paying. The best way would be to allow the ST to cover the womens games too, and if possible use Easter rd (now its hybrid and can take more traffic). Then its all about sponsorship. It needs to be about trying to find solutions rather than just saying "lets accept its just an amateur sport"

[superfurryhibby]

The elite level has to be pro otherwise they fall further behind the rest of the leagues in Europe. How they pay for that is the big issue they have. Even Rangers and Celtic dont get the crowds to generate the money they are paying. The best way would be to allow the ST to cover the womens games too, and if possible use Easter rd (now its hybrid and can take more traffic). Then its all about sponsorship. It needs to be about trying to find solutions rather than just saying "lets accept its just an amateur sport"

A bit like the men's league then, absolutely miles behind the elite leagues of Europe?

I would say that there has obviously been a significant effort to find solutions and the obvious one is that there is no appetite or commercial basis for a professional women's set up in Scotland. My point about most (men's) teams in Scotland struggling to make ends meet financially, that seems to fall on deaf ears in this conversation. If our men's teams are all operating close to loss making, what hope is there for them to run professional women's sides?

[blackpoolhibs]

A bit like the men's league then, absolutely miles behind the elite leagues of Europe?

I would say that there has obviously been a significant effort to find solutions and the obvious one is that there is no appetite or commercial basis for a professional women's set up in Scotland. My point about most (men's) teams in Scotland struggling to make ends meet financially, that seems to fall on deaf ears in this conversation. If our men's teams are all operating close to loss making, what hope is there for them to run professional women's sides?

Spot on, they need to fund their game the same way the men do, and the women's game in Scotland will then find it's rightful place in world
Football.

[He's here!]

So at grass roots level there are many girls playing as boys at younger age groups. That suggests to me that the women's game is being well supported? How does that then equate with the powers that be being closed minded about women's football?

At my kids' and their cousins' primary schools the girls teams were brought into being by parents, who ran the coaching sessions and organised the annual subs to cover pitch hire, with those who ran local businesses stepping in as sponsors so they could provide them with kit. No input whatsoever from those who run the game in Scotland.

[He's here!]

The elite level has to be pro otherwise they fall further behind the rest of the leagues in Europe. How they pay for that is the big issue they have. Even Rangers and Celtic dont get the crowds to generate the money they are paying. The best way would be to allow the ST to cover the womens games too, and if possible use Easter rd (now its hybrid and can take more traffic). Then its all about sponsorship. It needs to be about trying to find solutions rather than just saying "lets accept its just an amateur sport"

Agree re STs covering women's games and for the games to be played at ER - possibly on the days the men's team are playing away. When I was a kid my grandad used to take me to reserve games at ER, which back in those days used to be played against the same opponents the first team were playing against away. I always enjoyed that.

It would be a good way for those with young families to make the most of their season tickets without the expense of travelling away.

[Victor]

The simple truth is that there is too much football to choose from. Apart from the professional men’s clubs, the women’s game in Scotland has to compete with the Lowland Leagues, Junior football and youth football all of who require sponsorship and spectators. In top of that we are overloaded with televised games, which will also reduce spectator numbers. Personally I don’t watch women’s football, because I already watch Hibs, a lowland league side, kids football (family member is involved) and televised games, I don’t have time for anything else. Unless there is a massive change in what people watch, I think the woman’s game, in this country, will always struggle.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Agree re STs covering women's games and for the games to be played at ER - possibly on the days the men's team are playing away. When I was a kid my grandad used to take me to reserve games at ER, which back in those days used to be played against the same opponents the first team were playing against away. I always enjoyed that.

It would be a good way for those with young families to make the most of their season tickets without the expense of travelling away.

I e wondered if the games could be played as a ln early kick off - encourage folk into the ground earlier. Might depend on the availability of alcohol though as it seems it’s a struggle to get folk in for the mens games at time too 😂

[Eyrie]

The simple truth is that there is too much football to choose from. Apart from the professional men’s clubs, the women’s game in Scotland has to compete with the Lowland Leagues, Junior football and youth football all of who require sponsorship and spectators. In top of that we are overloaded with televised games, which will also reduce spectator numbers. Personally I don’t watch women’s football, because I already watch Hibs, a lowland league side, kids football (family member is involved) and televised games, I don’t have time for anything else. Unless there is a massive change in what people watch, I think the woman’s game, in this country, will always struggle.

Conversely as a Hibs fan the only football I watch is our men's team, women's team and Scotland.

It all comes down to what you choose to do and no-one should be criticised for making a different choice.

[blackpoolhibs]

Conversely as a Hibs fan the only football I watch is our men's team, women's team and Scotland.

It all comes down to what you choose to do and no-one should be criticised for making a different choice.

:agree:

I agree with you, nobody should be critical of anyone who wants to watch the womens team.

It's how it is funded that's the talking point.

[Eyrie]

If someone doesn't want to watch our women's team that's fine, but it's not a reason to treat it as a totally different club to Hibs. We're not Hibernian Men's Football Club :wink:

I have no problem if part* of the club budget is used to support our women's team because it needs that investment if we are to be a good team. Without the investment interest will dwindle and our women's team will become irrelevant.

Missed a trick when the women's turned professional in Scotland because we were one of the top two teams in the country at that point and had a good base to build on.


*It would only need to be a small part to make a big difference. Consider the money the club wasted on the vanity project development squad and poor managerial appointments.

[He's here!]

I e wondered if the games could be played as a ln early kick off - encourage folk into the ground earlier. Might depend on the availability of alcohol though as it seems it’s a struggle to get folk in for the mens games at time too 😂

I've thought about that too. Make it more of a curtain raiser as part of family-focused day at ER. Might encourage more girls along and if it was logistically feasible families could share their season ticket across the games if, say, one parent and child were leaving after the women's game.

[He's here!]

The simple truth is that there is too much football to choose from. Apart from the professional men’s clubs, the women’s game in Scotland has to compete with the Lowland Leagues, Junior football and youth football all of who require sponsorship and spectators. In top of that we are overloaded with televised games, which will also reduce spectator numbers. Personally I don’t watch women’s football, because I already watch Hibs, a lowland league side, kids football (family member is involved) and televised games, I don’t have time for anything else. Unless there is a massive change in what people watch, I think the woman’s game, in this country, will always struggle.

Do those competing games not apply across pretty much any country tho? Doesn't seem to have squeezed out interest in the women's game in Australia, as Fred has pointed out. Pretty sure Australia only has about a third of the UK population yet they're pulling in 70k plus to women's internationals.

[B.H.F.C]

Do those competing games not apply across pretty much any country tho? Doesn't seem to have squeezed out interest in the women's game in Australia, as Fred has pointed out. Pretty sure Australia only has about a third of the UK population yet they're pulling in 70k plus to women's internationals.

Because they have an interest in it there. Totally different culture plays a huge part IMO.

I know two people who coach with teams their girls play in. I have a mate who’s girl is doing well playing wise, playing a couple of age groups up. None of them have any interest in going to watch women’s games as spectator beyond that. The participation element is there and it’s good. I just don’t think there is that great an interest in watching it at senior level, unless it’s free or at a hugely reduced price.

[Victor]

Conversely as a Hibs fan the only football I watch is our men's team, women's team and Scotland.

It all comes down to what you choose to do and no-one should be criticised for making a different choice.

Sorry, I wasn’t criticising anyone, I don’t know why you thought that. I am glad you are all Hibs, I was only explaining why I don’t watch women’s football.

[He's here!]

Because they have an interest in it there. Totally different culture plays a huge part IMO.

I know two people who coach with teams their girls play in. I have a mate who’s girl is doing well playing wise, playing a couple of age groups up. None of them have any interest in going to watch women’s games as spectator beyond that. The participation element is there and it’s good. I just don’t think there is that great an interest in watching it at senior level, unless it’s free or at a hugely reduced price.

I'm not sure 'culture' entirely explains it.

Yes, in the US where there wasn't an embedded 'culture' of men's football and where more women play than men the game is a different beast, but aside from Australia the women's game is booming in the likes of South America, Japan and Europe. Think Germany and the Netherlands lead the way in terms of player numbers in Europe, while the England team obviously do very well. A lot of those England players will have become household names for aspiring young female players as I imagine the Matildas are in Australia. Unfortunately the best Scottish players end up at English clubs so their impact on young players here is probably diluted.

[Eyrie]

Sorry, I wasn’t criticising anyone, I don’t know why you thought that. I am glad you are all Hibs, I was only explaining why I don’t watch women’s football.

I didn't see any criticism in your post so we're fine.

I only included that bit in case anyone thought that I was being critical of those who don't watch our women's team.

[Brightside]

Spot on, they need to fund their game the same way the men do, and the women's game in Scotland will then find it's rightful place in world
Football.

Step forward the rich Americans eh. 😂

[Pretty Boy]

When is the next woman’s team fixture and where do they play? My daughter hasn’t shown any interest in football, which is fine, but seemed open to trying the ladies team so hoped to take her to a game this summer.

Had a quick Look online but suspect, like the men’s team, there’s no pre season fixtures announced yet.

Fixtures aren't out for next season yet.

Games are a Sunday and home games are at Meadowbank. It's a good day out; there is a lot more interaction with the players than at mens games. The players sign autographs, have pictures taken, talk to the young fans etc. The sooner Hibs get away from Meadowbank the better but that's another debate.

My daughter has a ST at ER but isn't really all that engaged at the games. The Nintendo Switch comes into it's own. I had her at Hampden the other night and she was pretty bored there too. She is much, much more into the football at the women's games and I'm not convinced that is coincidence. Seeing is believing and all that.

[PHeffernan]

I think it’s only a matter of time in Scotland before women’s football really takes off.

Attitudes are a bit harder to change in Scotland maybe, but once young girls can relate to ‘heroes’ on the park, crowd numbers…at the elite level anyway, will soar.

Just give ‘em something to believe in and aspire to.

Sorry to keep going on about the Matildas, but they really ARE a case study of what to do right, and Scotland could do well to learn from them.

They just played two ‘meaningless’ friendlies……one in Adelaide and one in Sydney 4 days apart and attracted over 130,000 spectators combined.

Their World Cup game against France last year is the most watched tv event EVER in the history of television.

The scenes going to, coming from and attending one of their games come across more like the vibe of a Taylor Swift concert than that of a tribal fitba match.

The societal benefits are enormous too….a huge recent upsurge in participant rates, leading to healthier and happier kids.

Scotland, either on its own or with partners should make a realistic bid to stage the women’s World Cup, Euros etc etc as soon and as often as it can.
The Women’s officials should also take a trip to Oz to pick the brains of those down here who run the women’s game.

This love in with the Matildas didn’t just happen by accident…..several of the current squad can recall playing internationals when they played in front of very low crowds.

Now they get bigger crowds than they did back then turning up for their training sessions!

Two big factors in your favour.
You have a population almost 5 times the size of Scotland and don't almost freeze to death when attending games.

[PHeffernan]

:agree:

I agree with you, nobody should be critical of anyone who wants to watch the womens team.

It's how it is funded that's the talking point.

Our club putting a little money into the womens game is not the wholly altruistic act it might at first appear.
Scottish football is highly dependent on match attending supporters to fund it and traditionally those attending have, in the main, been men and boys.
As such we are only tapping into 50% of the population and need to tap into the other 50% to help fill the 4000 empty seats at most games at Easter Road.
Getting more women and girls interested in womens football is the best way to do that and as Pretty Boy posted above women and girls seeing women playing football makes them believe that football is for them as both players and spectators.

[truehibernian]

Until it goes fully professional the women’s game here will continue to be poor - the standard is brutal and levels are ridiculously poor. I commend the effort, and the girls endeavour, but across the board it’s shocking football devoid of proper investment and professionalism and coaching up here. BF is investing half a million in the women’s team so I hope they use it wisely and the women’s team improve greatly - they need to because they’re really poor levels wise.

[Forza Fred]

Saying "the most watched tv event EVER in the history of television." is quite the exaggeration when the final was watched by almost 10x.

"The FIFA Women's World Cup final, which England lost 1-0 to Spain at Stadium Australia, was 2023's most-watched women's sport event on TV with 38.4 million viewing hours. Preliminary television ratings show an average of about 4.17 million people were watching the Matildas take on France in what is understood to be one of the most-watched sporting events across Australia in the past two decades."

I was talking about on Australian TV.

Apologies if it wasn’t clear .

[TrinityHFC]

Our club putting a little money into the womens game is not the wholly altruistic act it might at first appear.
Scottish football is highly dependent on match attending supporters to fund it and traditionally those attending have, in the main, been men and boys.
As such we are only tapping into 50% of the population and need to tap into the other 50% to help fill the 4000 empty seats at most games at Easter Road.
Getting more women and girls interested in womens football is the best way to do that and as Pretty Boy posted above women and girls seeing women playing football makes them believe that football is for them as both players and spectators.

I don’t really buy that. Women and girls can be welcomed to watching the men’s team without the women’s team having anything to do with it. There’s a huge number of women and girls at most men’s games and about 50 people at most go to the women’s games most weeks.

In Scotland it is a participation sport. That’s great and should definitely be supported and encouraged but professional sport is a different thing. If there’s no one willing to pay to watch it then it isn’t viable.

[blackpoolhibs]

Our club putting a little money into the womens game is not the wholly altruistic act it might at first appear.
Scottish football is highly dependent on match attending supporters to fund it and traditionally those attending have, in the main, been men and boys.
As such we are only tapping into 50% of the population and need to tap into the other 50% to help fill the 4000 empty seats at most games at Easter Road.
Getting more women and girls interested in womens football is the best way to do that and as Pretty Boy posted above women and girls seeing women playing football makes them believe that football is for them as both players and spectators.

Nobody is stopping anyone, men or woman attending the games at Easter Rd. The mens team should not have to subsidise the ladies team for it to just survive.

Filling our stadium for the mens game is down to them, the same as it is for the ladies, we keep being told it's a different game, why put them together for this argument?

It now appears they need to all be full time to get better, i'd say it is obviously right and they would get better, but we again get back to how it's funded.

Even now in Scotland nobody wants to watch womens football bar the folk involved and their relatives.

Our mens team have found their level, the ladies need to find theirs.

[Chipper1875]

Nobody is stopping anyone, men or woman attending the games at Easter Rd. The mens team should not have to subsidise the ladies team for it to just survive.

Filling our stadium for the mens game is down to them, the same as it is for the ladies, we keep being told it's a different game, why put them together for this argument?

It now appears they need to all be full time to get better, i'd say it is obviously right and they would get better, but we again get back to how it's funded.

Even now in Scotland nobody wants to watch womens football bar the folk involved and their relatives.

Our mens team have found their level, the ladies need to find theirs.

Great post. Hibs women and other teams need to go back to amateur status, if that’s the correct term. I d put them back under hibs community and stop the £500k we pay to play run them

[.Sean.]

Nobody is stopping anyone, men or woman attending the games at Easter Rd. The mens team should not have to subsidise the ladies team for it to just survive.

Filling our stadium for the mens game is down to them, the same as it is for the ladies, we keep being told it's a different game, why put them together for this argument?

It now appears they need to all be full time to get better, i'd say it is obviously right and they would get better, but we again get back to how it's funded.

Even now in Scotland nobody wants to watch womens football bar the folk involved and their relatives.

Our mens team have found their level, the ladies need to find theirs.
Best post on the subject. I’ve nothing against the ladies team at all but it has to be self sufficient and in no way should it be funded off the back of the mens team.

[Brightside]

I don’t really buy that. Women and girls can be welcomed to watching the men’s team without the women’s team having anything to do with it. There’s a huge number of women and girls at most men’s games and about 50 people at most go to the women’s games most weeks.

In Scotland it is a participation sport. That’s great and should definitely be supported and encouraged but professional sport is a different thing. If there’s no one willing to pay to watch it then it isn’t viable.

50 number is nonsense so you clearly don't go to the games.

Its another way to get them hooked. Not all young girls want to go with Dad to watch men play football. But plenty enjoy the women games. Its a starting point.

I say not all as my daughter was watching Men's football from 5 and didnt see a girls game till 7. Wasn't hard to get her hooked as she has been playing the game since 5. I have a neighbour who takes his daughter to all the womens games, but she doesnt like the mens games yet. That will come. So in short YES it could benefit attendance at Mens games.

[Brightside]

Great post. Hibs women and other teams need to go back to amateur status, if that’s the correct term. I d put them back under hibs community and stop the £500k we pay to play run them

You don't pay 500k to run them. Important that people stop making stuff up on this subject. Its all very Farage.

[Brightside]

Nobody is stopping anyone, men or woman attending the games at Easter Rd. The mens team should not have to subsidise the ladies team for it to just survive.

Filling our stadium for the mens game is down to them, the same as it is for the ladies, we keep being told it's a different game, why put them together for this argument?

It now appears they need to all be full time to get better, i'd say it is obviously right and they would get better, but we again get back to how it's funded.

Even now in Scotland nobody wants to watch womens football bar the folk involved and their relatives.

Our mens team have found their level, the ladies need to find theirs.

I would say at least 70% of the fans at Hibs womens games are in no way related to the players. There is a large proportion of younger people, and what are sometimes classed as special needs people attending the games. Clearly as its a much friendlier and safer environment. Funding has to come from sponsorship, and most of it does. Finding more of it is the big issue for those running the teams.

[Danderhall Hibs]

You don't pay 500k to run them. Important that people stop making stuff up on this subject. Its all very Farage.

Agreed. It’s a different budget, additional if you like.

Is the mens side of the club self sufficient? Feels like we’re punting shares to the Gordon’s to balance the books?!

[He's here!]

I would say at least 70% of the fans at Hibs womens games are in no way related to the players. There is a large proportion of younger people, and what are sometimes classed as special needs people attending the games. Clearly as its a much friendlier and safer environment. Funding has to come from sponsorship, and most of it does. Finding more of it is the big issue for those running the teams.

I'd agree - and you're right about the large proportion of younger fans. One of my kids' primary school teachers used to play football and she often handed out tickets for Hibs women and Scotland women games. The kids, boys and girls, used to come along with parents and loved it. As you say, a much friendlier environment with none of the angst and anger you see at men's games.

As others have mentioned, it's also seems to be more of an enticement for those of us with daughters who are more interested in watching the women play. Personally, bearing in mind how awful the majority of Hibs men's games are these days, I enjoy the experience of the women's games more. You don't come away feeling you've wasted your afternoon and that you've subjected your kid to something they don't really want to do.

[blackpoolhibs]

I would say at least 70% of the fans at Hibs womens games are in no way related to the players. There is a large proportion of younger people, and what are sometimes classed as special needs people attending the games. Clearly as its a much friendlier and safer environment. Funding has to come from sponsorship, and most of it does. Finding more of it is the big issue for those running the teams.

I apologise, i was just guessing i suppose as the crowds are very small. 70 percent of the amount of fans that do watch is still small, no matter how you dress it up, and there does not appear to be an appetite for it on a big scale like England.

I know it's well funded in England, but we cant fund the game like they do, so unless someone can come up with a different way to fund it, i think it will continue to struggle along and find it's level.

Not something some folk like you want, but i dont see why my season ticket should prop up a game i have no interest in, to the detriment of the game i watch.

[Danderhall Hibs]

The season ticket price hadn’t gone up to subsidise the womens team? Where did you read that?

[The Modfather]

Fixtures aren't out for next season yet.

Games are a Sunday and home games are at Meadowbank. It's a good day out; there is a lot more interaction with the players than at mens games. The players sign autographs, have pictures taken, talk to the young fans etc. The sooner Hibs get away from Meadowbank the better but that's another debate.

My daughter has a ST at ER but isn't really all that engaged at the games. The Nintendo Switch comes into it's own. I had her at Hampden the other night and she was pretty bored there too. She is much, much more into the football at the women's games and I'm not convinced that is coincidence. Seeing is believing and all that.

Thanks S, will keep a look out for fixtures and maybe see you guys at a game at some point.

[McD]

The season ticket price hadn’t gone up to subsidise the womens team? Where did you read that?

Exactly. Do we know if Hibs allocate a proportion of advertising funds towards the women’s team?


And presumably those who don’t want season ticket money put towards the women’s team also don’t want any of the wages of the support staff, cleaners, ticket office, shop, social media team, etc coming out of their season ticket money either?

[TrinityHFC]

Exactly. Do we know if Hibs allocate a proportion of advertising funds towards the women’s team?


And presumably those who don’t want season ticket money put towards the women’s team also don’t want any of the wages of the support staff, cleaners, ticket office, shop, social media team, etc coming out of their season ticket money either?

All that stuff supports the men’s team. Same with the academy. Why would anyone have an issue with that?

[TrinityHFC]

Agreed. It’s a different budget, additional if you like.

Is the mens side of the club self sufficient? Feels like we’re punting shares to the Gordon’s to balance the books?!

When you say a different budget where does that money come from?

[PHeffernan]

I apologise, i was just guessing i suppose as the crowds are very small. 70 percent of the amount of fans that do watch is still small, no matter how you dress it up, and there does not appear to be an appetite for it on a big scale like England.

I know it's well funded in England, but we cant fund the game like they do, so unless someone can come up with a different way to fund it, i think it will continue to struggle along and find it's level.

Not something some folk like you want, but i dont see why my season ticket should prop up a game i have no interest in, to the detriment of the game i watch.


Don't worry it doesn't















Your season ticket money goes to Harry McKirdy.

[blackpoolhibs]

Exactly. Do we know if Hibs allocate a proportion of advertising funds towards the women’s team?


And presumably those who don’t want season ticket money put towards the women’s team also don’t want any of the wages of the support staff, cleaners, ticket office, shop, social media team, etc coming out of their season ticket money either?

You are just being daft now, my season ticket up until recently went towards helping the football team have success, the mens team.

Now we have a womans team, not a problem as some would like you to think, but they do recieve money from the pot that used to be just for the men.

I just feel they should fund their own team, it's that simple.

[TrinityHFC]

You are just being daft now, my season ticket up until recently went towards helping the football team have success, the mens team.

Now we have a womans team, not a problem as some would like you to think, but they do recieve money from the pot that used to be just for the men.

I just feel they should fund their own team, it's that simple.

If it paves the way for professional walking football we might be in there?

[Danderhall Hibs]

When you say a different budget where does that money come from?

Don’t know. Maybe from the Gordon’s - specifically for that purpose? If they didn’t give it to the womens team they might not give it to anyone.

It’s not directly correlated. That’d be like saying giving the comms manager a payrise impacts the mens first team.

[Eyrie]

You are just being daft now, my season ticket up until recently went towards helping the football team have success, the mens team.

Now we have a womans team, not a problem as some would like you to think, but they do recieve money from the pot that used to be just for the men.

I just feel they should fund their own team, it's that simple.

In that case our development team and youths should also be self funding as they contribute little to the men's first team.

Or alternatively we're talking about Hibs teams in which case there isn't a problem with Hibs teams being funded by Hibs money.

[TrinityHFC]

Don’t know. Maybe from the Gordon’s - specifically for that purpose? If they didn’t give it to the womens team they might not give it to anyone.

It’s not directly correlated. That’d be like saying giving the comms manager a payrise impacts the mens first team.

So don’t know and maybe.

Is it money we would not have had in the club anyway or not?

[Danderhall Hibs]

So don’t know and maybe.

Is it money we would not have had in the club anyway or not?

No

Tried to give some context to help you understand how budgets work but happy to go binary.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

In that case our development team and youths should also be self funding as they contribute little to the men's first team.

Or alternatively we're talking about Hibs teams in which case there isn't a problem with Hibs teams being funded by Hibs money.

Surely you can see that there's a direct pathway from those two teams that can feed into the men's first team.

[TrinityHFC]

No

Tried to give some context to help you understand how budgets work but happy to go binary.

I’m well aware of how budgets work.

You haven’t explained where the source of the money to be separated into specific budgets, which is how you spend the money you have, has come from.