Hibs Women

[Since90+2]

As are Hibs and Hearts.

What sort of money do the Hibs ladies earn? I can't imagine there's more money in the women's game than even League 1 in Scotland looking at attendances so it must be hard to finance a full time squad of 20 odd players.

[Since90+2]

Bit of a doing for Hibs, hope the jokes do a bit better next week.

Is that a typo? If not bit harsh to call them jokes.

[B.H.F.C]

A bit of a shame the ladies game has gone the way it has, from a vehicle for ladies around the clubs to play football, it has gone the same way as the men’s team with the clubs bringing players in from all over it’s denying local players from getting game time.
Then, money buys success.

I don’t really hold any interest in the woman’s game, but I’d guess that access and opportunity to play the game is higher than it ever has been.

[Brightside]

What sort of money do the Hibs ladies earn? I can't imagine there's more money in the women's game than even League 1 in Scotland looking at attendances so it must be hard to finance a full time squad of 20 odd players.

20k +

[He's here!]

As are Hibs and Hearts.

Pretty sure the only contracts on offer at Hibs are part-time.

[hibby rae]

Pretty sure the only contracts on offer at Hibs are part-time.

Hibs are a hybrid of full and part-time contracts

Players like Eddie and Notley are full, someone like Rosie Livingstone is part-time as she is also at uni

[PHeffernan]

Next time out, Hibs need to hope Aberdeen get at least a draw with Partick Thistle or the part time jags will be above Hibs after the first round of league fixtures which would be a poor effort.

[Brightside]

Pretty sure the only contracts on offer at Hibs are part-time.

You’d be wrong. All the foreign girl are full time and all the senior players are too. I think it’s only the ones still at Uni that are on hybrid contracts. They also get accommodation.

[Brightside]

The hibs goalkeepers have had absolute howlers tbh. First half all 3 goals are mistakes from the keeper. Then at least 2 in the second should have been dealt with too. Not much you can do with individual errors.

[hibby rae]

The hibs goalkeepers have had absolute howlers tbh. First half all 3 goals are mistakes from the keeper. Then at least 2 in the second should have been dealt with too. Not much you can do with individual errors.

Yeah when I saw we had gifted them a 3 goal head start I became very philosophical at the result.

However, I was absolutely raging with Spartans *****ting the bed!

But Hearts seem to becoming a bit leaky, a good thing given their recent success has been built on being hard to score against.

[superfurryhibby]

Must admit to being very surprised that Hibs Women have full time players.

Totally for involvement and promoting the women’s game, but wondering how it’s funded?

Also wondering why we don’t have a female manager?

[Since90+2]

Must admit to being very surprised that Hibs Women have full time players.

Totally for involvement and promoting the women’s game, but wondering how it’s funded?

Also wondering why we don’t have a female manager?

I'm not really sure of the setup but I think they are a separate entity to the main club?

Looking at attendances I also can't see how they are financing a full time squad. The TV deal from Alba must be pennies and if they are only drawing a few hundred for standard games they can't bring in a ot of revenue.

[He's here!]

I'm not really sure of the setup but I think they are a separate entity to the main club?

Looking at attendances I also can't see how they are financing a full time squad. The TV deal from Alba must be pennies and if they are only drawing a few hundred for standard games they can't bring in a ot of revenue.

Might be wrong, but I thought they were integrated to the main club fairly recently (and use East Mains for training). I have no idea how we provide full-time salaries though based on the reasons you mention. However, to remain competitive we have to try I guess, although I suspect Rangers and Celtic (and possibly Hearts) are paying significantly more in wages.

As we've seen with the women's game in England, the market is there for a good product with some amazing crowds now attending both club and international games:

Barclays Women's Super League smashes new records in 2022-23 (thefa.com) (https://womenscompetitions.thefa.com/en/Article/barclays-womens-super-league-new-records-20222909#:~:text=It%20also%20equates%20to%20an,acr oss%20the%20top%20two%20divisions.)

[worcesterhibby]

Might be wrong, but I thought they were integrated to the main club fairly recently (and use East Mains for training). I have no idea how we provide full-time salaries though based on the reasons you mention. However, to remain competitive we have to try I guess, although I suspect Rangers and Celtic (and possibly Hearts) are paying significantly more in wages.

As we've seen with the women's game in England, the market is there for a good product with some amazing crowds now attending both club and international games:

Barclays Women's Super League smashes new records in 2022-23 (thefa.com) (https://womenscompetitions.thefa.com/en/Article/barclays-womens-super-league-new-records-20222909#:~:text=It%20also%20equates%20to%20an,acr oss%20the%20top%20two%20divisions.)

The attendance figures in England are great news, but they are still not generating much cash. Ticket prices are a fraction of the cost of attending a mens game. Tickets are generally between £6 - £11 for adults and half that for any type of concession. You can get a season ticket at Liverpool as a full paying adult for £60 and add a child for another £15...for the whole season! There are a lot of free tickets given out as well. I think a decent estimate is that a 10,000 crowd will generate about £60K revenue and the food and other sales might just cover the cost of opening the stadium. It doesn't even begin to pay anyone wages.

[Brightside]

Must admit to being very surprised that Hibs Women have full time players.

Totally for involvement and promoting the women’s game, but wondering how it’s funded?

Also wondering why we don’t have a female manager?

Funded via sponsorship and other means unknown. (Its now part of Hibernian FC rather than Hibernian Women Ltd)

Why would we have a female manager? Just get the best manager they can afford rather than tick boxes.

[superfurryhibby]

Funded via sponsorship and other means unknown. (Its now part of Hibernian FC rather than Hibernian Women Ltd)

Why would we have a female manager? Just get the best manager they can afford rather than tick boxes.

For the same reasons we now have women commentating on football (or rugby). Is it based on merit, their experience in the higher echelons of the game or just the need to make a different kind of statement on inclusivity? Just seems odd to me to have a women's team that is staffed at coaching levels by men (three coaches and a manager).

[Brightside]

For the same reasons we now have women commentating on football (or rugby). Is it based on merit, their experience in the higher echelons of the game or just the need to make a different kind of statement on inclusivity? Just seems odd to me to have a women's team that is staffed at coaching levels by men (three coaches and a manager).

We have a female coach also. Joelle is Player / Coach. As soon as there are coaches available that are good enough and within budget I'm sure we will see one appointed. But unfortunately there are very few suitably qualified female coaches in Scotland - and thats the same all the way through the system.

[He's here!]

The attendance figures in England are great news, but they are still not generating much cash. Ticket prices are a fraction of the cost of attending a mens game. Tickets are generally between £6 - £11 for adults and half that for any type of concession. You can get a season ticket at Liverpool as a full paying adult for £60 and add a child for another £15...for the whole season! There are a lot of free tickets given out as well. I think a decent estimate is that a 10,000 crowd will generate about £60K revenue and the food and other sales might just cover the cost of opening the stadium. It doesn't even begin to pay anyone wages.

Those prices presumably make sense on the basis that they're placing a lot of faith in fans of the club to get behind the women's teams as well as the men's? If you charge the same prices as for men's matches the women's game would never have got off the ground in the way it has down south. Clubs like Liverpool and Arsenal can also afford to accommodate a women's team that at present 'wipes its face' in terms of revenue generated, but with a continually improving product (and the high exposure success of the England women's team filtering down) they can keep building steadily.

[worcesterhibby]

Those prices presumably make sense on the basis that they're placing a lot of faith in fans of the club to get behind the women's teams as well as the men's? If you charge the same prices as for men's matches the women's game would never have got off the ground in the way it has down south. Clubs like Liverpool and Arsenal can also afford to accommodate a women's team that at present 'wipes its face' in terms of revenue generated, but with a continually improving product (and the high exposure success of the England women's team filtering down) they can keep building steadily.

I don't disagree, I'm just a little bit defensive from having had a number of conversations with female friends who suggest that Women's football should be treated equally with mens as far as media exposure and wages are concerned because there is "huge interest and big crowds and the standard is as good as men" (they're quotes not yours) and they never really like being reminded that the decent crowds they get are generally paying a fiver or actually being given away free. I think the last Hibs/Hearts Derby had a crowd of about 6,000 and the tickets were all free. The money needs to come from somewhere, If big English clubs can afford to bank roll it, that's great.

[superfurryhibby]

I don't disagree, I'm just a little bit defensive from having had a number of conversations with female friends who suggest that Women's football should be treated equally with mens as far as media exposure and wages are concerned because there is "huge interest and big crowds and the standard is as good as men" (they're quotes not yours) and they never really like being reminded that the decent crowds they get are generally paying a fiver or actually being given away free. I think the last Hibs/Hearts Derby had a crowd of about 6,000 and the tickets were all free. The money needs to come from somewhere, If big English clubs can afford to bank roll it, that's great.

The equalities issue. I believe that the professional game is open, so if a woman player becomes good enough to play for Hibs 1st team, then there are no obstacles to doing so. I'm sure any woman making the grade would be paid a first team wage.

I do find the women commentators a bit tokenistic and given that the standard of the football they've directly experienced is, at best, equivalent to the standard of under 15 juveniles, I genuinely wonder how much insight any female commentator has into the male game (my football career highlights were a few games in the EoSL and a miserable trial with Edinburgh United juniors, so I'm not suggesting I am the football oracle either).


That said, we have many male pundits who, despite being able to kick a ball, can barely utter a coherent sentence, so I'm not too troubled by it.

[Brightside]

I don't disagree, I'm just a little bit defensive from having had a number of conversations with female friends who suggest that Women's football should be treated equally with mens as far as media exposure and wages are concerned because there is "huge interest and big crowds and the standard is as good as men" (they're quotes not yours) and they never really like being reminded that the decent crowds they get are generally paying a fiver or actually being given away free. I think the last Hibs/Hearts Derby had a crowd of about 6,000 and the tickets were all free. The money needs to come from somewhere, If big English clubs can afford to bank roll it, that's great.

Everything you are saying makes sense. And its why women footballers aren't even on a 10th of what the men earn - There are a tiny amount of female players in the world earning 100k a year. The budgets simply don't add up so every single team will run at a loss for a long long time. Until we are seeing 4 figure paying crowds every week it simply wont be commercially viable. It will continue to run on sponsorship and generosity.
Its also pretty much impossible to find any financial figures for any of the Scottish teams.

[Brightside]

The equalities issue. I believe that the professional game is open, so if a woman player becomes good enough to play for Hibs 1st team, then there are no obstacles to doing so. I'm sure any woman making the grade would be paid a first team wage.

I do find the women commentators a bit tokenistic and given that the standard of the football they've directly experienced is, at best, equivalent to the standard of under 15 juveniles, I genuinely wonder how much insight any female commentator has into the male game (my football career highlights were a few games in the EoSL and a miserable trial with Edinburgh United juniors, so I'm not suggesting I am the football oracle either).


That said, we have many male pundits who, despite being able to kick a ball, can barely utter a coherent sentence, so I'm not too troubled by it.

Emma Hayes for me is the best commentator in the land. She knows every single bit of football inside out. She can explain systems and phases of play better than any of the men.
Im not sure being directly involved in the mens game makes you in anyway qualified to commentate on the game though. Hence why we have some of the worst pundits in the world on Sportscene every week.
I just want the best people on the TV every week so I can get the most enjoyment and education from that game. Aluko and Cairney are two of the worse pundits I've ever heard on any football game. Up there with Andy Walker!

[superfurryhibby]

Emma Hayes for me is the best commentator in the land. She knows every single bit of football inside out. She can explain systems and phases of play better than any of the men.
Im not sure being directly involved in the mens game makes you in anyway qualified to commentate on the game though. Hence why we have some of the worst pundits in the world on Sportscene every week.
I just want the best people on the TV every week so I can get the most enjoyment and education from that game. Aluko and Cairney are two of the worse pundits I've ever heard on any football game. Up there with Andy Walker!

If it's meritocratic then no one can argue with that, I'm not convinced it is though. That probably applies to the selection criteria for the male pundits too.

[HIBS NUTS]

Tin hat on here , but after watching the highlights of the 7-0 defeat by rangers, i’ve very rarely seen a worse performance from any goalkeeper.
Hopefully it’s a one off , but for the womens game to move forward , athletic tall women should be be fast tracked to compete in goals from other sports.
It’s a hard task, as all the money is currently with the top three sides.
I generally enjoy watching hibs women, but they are rapidly falling away from competing, at the top level.

[worcesterhibby]

Tin hat on here , but after watching the highlights of the 7-0 defeat by rangers, i’ve very rarely seen a worse performance from any goalkeeper.
Hopefully it’s a one off , but for the womens game to move forward , athletic tall women should be be fast tracked to compete in goals from other sports.
It’s a hard task, as all the money is currently with the top three sides.
I generally enjoy watching hibs women, but they are rapidly falling away from competing, at the top level.

Goalkeeping has for a long time been the achillies heel of womens football. Just too often goals look soft and keepers look out of their depth. Of course there are notable exceptions such as England's Mary Earps, Germany's Merle Frohms and Canada's Kailen Sheridan to name just three, but generally many women goalkeepers struggle and much of it is due to height. In the recent world cup, the average height of the goalkeepers was 5 foot 7inches which makes the job incredibly hard and means their reach is significantly less than mens football. I really think tere is a case for making the goals smaller in womens football. Not only would it cut down some of the embarrassing thrashings we see in almost every league, but it would just be fairer and proportionate to womens physical atrributes.

[Brightside]

Goalkeeping has for a long time been the achillies heel of womens football. Just too often goals look soft and keepers look out of their depth. Of course there are notable exceptions such as England's Mary Earps, Germany's Merle Frohms and Canada's Kailen Sheridan to name just three, but generally many women goalkeepers struggle and much of it is due to height. In the recent world cup, the average height of the goalkeepers was 5 foot 7inches which makes the job incredibly hard and means their reach is significantly less than mens football. I really think tere is a case for making the goals smaller in womens football. Not only would it cut down some of the embarrassing thrashings we see in almost every league, but it would just be fairer and proportionate to womens physical atrributes.

I hope it never happens. They will then claim the pitch should be smaller. Maybe play with a size 4 ball. They have smaller goals at the younger level and it doesn't stop teams getting humped.

The trashing in our league are nothing to do with the size of the goals and everything to do with the lack of depth / quality.

[Musselbound]

For the same reasons we now have women commentating on football (or rugby). Is it based on merit, their experience in the higher echelons of the game or just the need to make a different kind of statement on inclusivity? Just seems odd to me to have a women's team that is staffed at coaching levels by men (three coaches and a manager).

Agree with your main points. Maybe one way to make it seem less odd would be to have more female coaches working in the men's game.

[worcesterhibby]

I hope it never happens. They will then claim the pitch should be smaller. Maybe play with a size 4 ball. They have smaller goals at the younger level and it doesn't stop teams getting humped.

The trashing in our league are nothing to do with the size of the goals and everything to do with the lack of depth / quality.

Fair enough, I suspect you know more and care more about women's football than I do, but the Hibs Rangers match is very. very painful viewing from a goalkeeping perspective. Katie Fraine is an incredibly experienced goalkeeper that we brought in from abroad. Four of the seven goals she conceded were "howlers" including the first three that basically lost the game for Hibs. Only one or maybe two of the other goals were not pretty poor attempts at saves. Any professional mens goalkeeper putting in that performance would be absolutely slaughtered. I'm not sure they would ever play again.

There was some excellent outfield play in the match, some fantastic physical battles and some real commitment from both teams, it was utterly spoiled by a complete lack of ability between the sticks, that made the match seem comical. Playing the match at Ibrox, also makes the whole game seem weird, I'm not sure of the attendance, but 2000-3000 fans rattling around inside Castle Grey Skull just gives the game a very odd atmosphere

[HIBS NUTS]

Nice that members are able to discuss the merits of women’s football without any fall outs.
Women’s rowing in our country, was miles behind the men in terms of competing with other countries.
Women’s rowing association, went into universities, and identified women’s who met the physically ability to be good at rowing, none had previously rowed.
This became a great success, it might be a way forward to identify women who are taller and more athletic to play in goals.

[Brightside]

Fair enough, I suspect you know more and care more about women's football than I do, but the Hibs Rangers match is very. very painful viewing from a goalkeeping perspective. Katie Fraine is an incredibly experienced goalkeeper that we brought in from abroad. Four of the seven goals she conceded were "howlers" including the first three that basically lost the game for Hibs. Only one or maybe two of the other goals were not pretty poor attempts at saves. Any professional mens goalkeeper putting in that performance would be absolutely slaughtered. I'm not sure they would ever play again.

There was some excellent outfield play in the match, some fantastic physical battles and some real commitment from both teams, it was utterly spoiled by a complete lack of ability between the sticks, that made the match seem comical. Playing the match at Ibrox, also makes the whole game seem weird, I'm not sure of the attendance, but 2000-3000 fans rattling around inside Castle Grey Skull just gives the game a very odd atmosphere

I'm told Katie played with a back injury. She didn't come out for the 2nd half. Personally I don't think Hibs have a had a good keeper for a long time. Does make a huge difference. We should have kept hold of Rodgers who is now at Hearts and the Scotland u19 keeper. She is tall and athletic.

[worcesterhibby]

I'm told Katie played with a back injury. She didn't come out for the 2nd half. Personally I don't think Hibs have a had a good keeper for a long time. Does make a huge difference. We should have kept hold of Rodgers who is now at Hearts and the Scotland u19 keeper. She is tall and athletic.

I hadn't noticed that it was a different keeper in the second half. Thanks for keeping me straight !

[nonshinyfinish]

Nice that members are able to discuss the merits of women’s football without any fall outs.
Women’s rowing in our country, was miles behind the men in terms of competing with other countries.
Women’s rowing association, went into universities, and identified women’s who met the physically ability to be good at rowing, none had previously rowed.
This became a great success, it might be a way forward to identify women who are taller and more athletic to play in goals.

I suspect university age would be too late. I play in a mixed fives game and sometimes watch a local women's five-a-side league that friends play in – there's a clear difference between women who've played football since they were kids (as most male players would have) and those who've picked it up later on.

Don't really know enough about rowing to comment – obviously there's a fair amount of technique involved, but I guess it's a significantly less complex sport to learn?

[HIBS NUTS]

I suspect university age would be too late. I play in a mixed fives game and sometimes watch a local women's five-a-side league that friends play in – there's a clear difference between women who've played football since they were kids (as most male players would have) and those who've picked it up later on.

Don't really know enough about rowing to comment – obviously there's a fair amount of technique involved, but I guess it's a significantly less complex sport to learn?

Agree that university, is too late for aspiring goalkeepers, as it is more technical, but perhaps young basketball or netball players with good ball handling skills, and height, might offer a way into football, the fact that goalkeepers are generally better later in life does help.

[worcesterhibby]

Nice that members are able to discuss the merits of women’s football without any fall outs.
Women’s rowing in our country, was miles behind the men in terms of competing with other countries.
Women’s rowing association, went into universities, and identified women’s who met the physically ability to be good at rowing, none had previously rowed.
This became a great success, it might be a way forward to identify women who are taller and more athletic to play in goals.

I know others have said that University is too late, but I tend to agree with you. I also wonder about the standard of coaching womens keepers get from an early age anyway. Goalkeeper coaching is a very specialised subject and I doubt there are many very good GK coaches working at youth level at the moment..never mind female youth level.

Of course Rowing gets a bunch of cash because they are an olympic sport and generally associated with Public Schools - If it were to happen in Scottish football it would require the SFA to get involved and do the right thing, which is hard to imagine. Do they have any universities in Largs ?:greengrin

[Brightside]

I know others have said that University is too late, but I tend to agree with you. I also wonder about the standard of coaching womens keepers get from an early age anyway. Goalkeeper coaching is a very specialised subject and I doubt there are many very good GK coaches working at youth level at the moment..never mind female youth level.

Of course Rowing gets a bunch of cash because they are an olympic sport and generally associated with Public Schools - If it were to happen in Scottish football it would require the SFA to get involved and do the right thing, which is hard to imagine. Do they have any universities in Largs ?:greengrin

We have a real issue with Performance coaching in this country - its all about numbers rather then taking the best of the best and making them better. The regional setup has basically disappeared. The coaches that were doing it were by and large awful. They generally didn't take goalkeepers or defenders. We remain light years behind other European nations on this.

Go and watch the top European youth teams and they are ALL athletes. Bigger, faster and more technical. Better diets. More commitment. More hours of training. We just don't take it seriously enough.

[Since90+2]

We have a real issue with Performance coaching in this country - its all about numbers rather then taking the best of the best and making them better. The regional setup has basically disappeared. The coaches that were doing it were by and large awful. They generally didn't take goalkeepers or defenders. We remain light years behind other European nations on this.

Go and watch the top European youth teams and they are ALL athletes. Bigger, faster and more technical. Better diets. More commitment. More hours of training. We just don't take it seriously enough.

On your last point, I think that also applies to the mens team.

The game against England at Hampden was a good example. Technically they are miles better but even physically and athletically they are miles ahead. The gap is closing as we now have players regularly playing at the top level in England, but Scottish players across the board are still lagging behind in that regard.

[superfurryhibby]

On your last point, I think that also applies to the mens team.

The game against England at Hampden was a good example. Technically they are miles better but even physically and athletically they are miles ahead. The gap is closing as we now have players regularly playing at the top level in England, but Scottish players across the board are still lagging behind in that regard.

Can't agree with that. They were miles better on the night, but a good number of our starting side play in the top flight in England?

I think what matters is that they are one of the worlds top sides, come from a country with ten times the playing pool and have some genuinely world class players

[Since90+2]

Can't agree with that. They were miles better on the night, but a good number of our starting side play in the top flight in England?

I think what matters is that they are one of the worlds top sides, come from a country with ten times the playing pool and have some genuinely world class players

They might play in the top league now, but physical development is key in your late teens and very few played at the top level at that age.

The English clubs are absolutely miles ahead interns of sport science and physical development of players. Even Celtic and Rangers don't get close.

Look at McGinn's physical improvement since he left zhibs, he is totally transformed. Now imagine if he'd had access to that level of support from age16 onwards.

[superfurryhibby]

They might play in the top league now, but physical development is key in your late teens and very few played at the top level at that age.

The English clubs are absolutely miles ahead interns of sport science and physical development of players. Even Celtic and Rangers don't get close.

Look at McGinn's physical improvement since he left zhibs, he is totally transformed. Now imagine if he'd had access to that level of support from age16 onwards.

Not so sure that most of the England players were playing top level football in their late teens either (probably out on loan etc)? We've seen plenty of England age level internationalists come up to Scotland and fail miserably to compete at our level too (Boateng, Woods at Hibs in recent times)

McGinn left Hibs when he was 23, not his physical prime. He got better, stronger, fitter. He would probably have done the same if he had stayed at Hibs all his career, albeit to varying levels of lesser extent.

If physical development and our sports conditioning is so far behind, using you logic, how did these guys then make the grade in the likes of the Prem, Serie A, La Liga?

I still think a massive playing pool and a golden period in terms of emerging and established talent was a much bigger issue.

Despite losses to England & Spain, our national team has done remarkably well over recent times. I feel that reflects well on the quality of our youth and professional set ups. Far too easy to knock the game, it's got many issues, but there are also many positives.

[Brightside]

Glasgow city got pumped out of the champs league at first stage. We are miles behind in this country now unfortunately. Other countries gambling to get in-front and stay ahead.

[cabbageandribs1875]

talking about keepers i see England back up keeper Sandy Maciver has switched her allegiance to playing for Scotland now Sandy MacIver switches to Scotland from England and is in Nations League squad - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67144421) following midfielder Amy Rodgers decision to switch sides

[cabbageandribs1875]

in the pre group stage in the women's champions league it finished Brann 2 Glasgow City 0 (6-0)


Wolfsburg 0 Paris FC 2 (3-5) surprised at that one as i think the German side has a huge budget for the women's game and were finalists last season against Barcelona

[Brightside]

talking about keepers i see England back up keeper Sandy Maciver has switched her allegiance to playing for Scotland now Sandy MacIver switches to Scotland from England and is in Nations League squad - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67144421) following midfielder Amy Rodgers decision to switch sides

That’s a great signing for Scotland. She’s miles better than what we have.

[worcesterhibby]

That’s a great signing for Scotland. She’s miles better than what we have.

I don't understand how she can switch when she already has an England Cap ???

[nonshinyfinish]

I don't understand how she can switch when she already has an England Cap ???

It was a friendly – the current rules only lock you in if you play a senior competitive international.

[04Sauzee]

I don't understand how she can switch when she already has an England Cap ???

I think it was a friendly so although capped it's ckased as non competitive so she can still opt to play for Scotland.

[He's here!]

It was a friendly – the current rules only lock you in if you play a senior competitive international.

Think Jason Cummings did similar? Capped in a friendly for Scotland before opting for Australia.

[worcesterhibby]

It was a friendly – the current rules only lock you in if you play a senior competitive international.

Ahh ok Cheers (and thanks the other two that also answered !)

[cabbageandribs1875]

this is serious btw, Saudi Arabia wants to hold the Women's World Cup in 2035

at least women are allowed to drive cars nowadays so it's becoming a really progressive society :rolleyes:


they also want to host the men's World Cup in 2034, i presume they want to bid for both knowing Fifa will find it difficult to knock them back for both bids


Amnesty International Australia campaigner Nikita White said in February: "It would be quite the irony for Saudi's tourism body to sponsor the largest celebration of women's sport in the world when you consider that, as a woman in Saudi Arabia, you can't even have a job without the permission of your male guardian."

[MartinfaePorty]

Good win today v Hamilton: 8-1. Expected result, but good to get some goals and 3 points.

[Eyrie]

A hat trick for Adams as well.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Good win today v Hamilton: 8-1. Expected result, but good to get some goals and 3 points.

I watched a bit of it on You Tube. They looked good today.

[et_hibby]

I watched a bit of it on You Tube. They looked good today.
Credit to Elie Youan getting along to support today as well. (Not sure how much he would’ve got to see with the amount of selfies he was pestered for!)

[He's here!]

Good win today v Hamilton: 8-1. Expected result, but good to get some goals and 3 points.

Yep good to see after last week's result at Ibrox.

[hibby rae]

Lucy Parry came on as a sub for Liverpool today, 3 appearances out of 5. Delighted for her. Absolutely brilliant player.

[The Hibee Harp]

Lucy Parry came on as a sub for Liverpool today, 3 appearances out of 5. Delighted for her. Absolutely brilliant player.

She is destined for the top. A terrific players with bags of potential. I'm a bit torn that she's doing so well just now. Delighted for her and pleased to see her progress but a little disappointed because is she hadn't we might've got her back!

[The Hibee Harp]

It was good to see us getting a big, morale-boosting win yesterday because I think we needed it after Ibrox last week. Also, good to see Adams scoring a hat-trick and hopefully boosing her confidence because she hasn't been as clinical as we need her to be recently. Bit concerned though that we again conceeded, even in such a big win, because it seems we are rarely good enough to keep cleansheets with the likes of Montrose, Hamilton and Dundee United who all struggle to score finding the net against us this season. Baucom appears to be the real deal and her goals to game ratio is impressive. Perhaps the most proflic forward since Abi Harrison?

[The Hibee Harp]

I'm told Katie played with a back injury. She didn't come out for the 2nd half. Personally I don't think Hibs have a had a good keeper for a long time. Does make a huge difference. We should have kept hold of Rodgers who is now at Hearts and the Scotland u19 keeper. She is tall and athletic.

I haven't been impressed with Fraine at all and would consider giving Wilson a run in the side to see what she can do.

[hibby rae]

She is destined for the top. A terrific players with bags of potential. I'm a bit torn that she's doing so well just now. Delighted for her and pleased to see her progress but a little disappointed because is she hadn't we might've got her back!

Yeah I had my fingers crossed about that as well, a look at her IG shows she clearly enjoyed playing for us and became quite pally with her teammates (even went to the last Tynie game of the season with Shiv, Eilidh, and Rosie etc). In a way it's a shame we had her last season given we have a better coach this season.

But as you say destined for the top! Got my fingers crossed for her.

[hibby rae]

It was good to see us getting a big, morale-boosting win yesterday because I think we needed it after Ibrox last week. Also, good to see Adams scoring a hat-trick and hopefully boosing her confidence because she hasn't been as clinical as we need her to be recently. Bit concerned though that we again conceeded, even in such a big win, because it seems we are rarely good enough to keep cleansheets with the likes of Montrose, Hamilton and Dundee United who all struggle to score finding the net against us this season. Baucom appears to be the real deal and her goals to game ratio is impressive. Perhaps the most proflic forward since Abi Harrison?

Definitely, unless you maybe count Jamie-Lee Napier

[hibby rae]

Just noticed Eilidh Adams did Youan's celebration when she got her hat-trick 😂


*He was in the crowd

[Brightside]

Scotland u19s getting battered by Iceland right now 4-0 after 40 mins. We look miles off it. A few players playing in positions that they don't for their club. Thats a very SFA thing to do .

[He's here!]

Scotland u19s getting battered by Iceland right now 4-0 after 40 mins. We look miles off it. A few players playing in positions that they don't for their club. Thats a very SFA thing to do .

Where's it being played? Seems an unusual kick-off time.

[He's here!]

It was good to see us getting a big, morale-boosting win yesterday because I think we needed it after Ibrox last week. Also, good to see Adams scoring a hat-trick and hopefully boosing her confidence because she hasn't been as clinical as we need her to be recently. Bit concerned though that we again conceeded, even in such a big win, because it seems we are rarely good enough to keep cleansheets with the likes of Montrose, Hamilton and Dundee United who all struggle to score finding the net against us this season. Baucom appears to be the real deal and her goals to game ratio is impressive. Perhaps the most proflic forward since Abi Harrison?

Hat-trick here:

https://twitter.com/BBCSportScot/status/1716711121074126962?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Brightside]

Where's it being played? Seems an unusual kick-off time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn7CwpsfHuY

Youth games are always middle of the day for some reason. Its in Tirana.

[He's here!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn7CwpsfHuY

Youth games are always middle of the day for some reason. Its in Tirana.

Cheers. 6-2 FT.

[cabbageandribs1875]

FT Netherlands 4 Scotland 0

bit of a howler by Sophie Howard for the 2nd and Rachael Corsie non too clever for the 4th


they go again on Tuesday

[Brightside]

FT Netherlands 4 Scotland 0

bit of a howler by Sophie Howard for the 2nd and Rachael Corsie non too clever for the 4th


they go again on Tuesday
Corsie should be nowhere near the team now. The lack of investment in elite coaching is showing now. Going backwards.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Corsie should be nowhere near the team now. The lack of investment in elite coaching is showing now. Going backwards.


that 3rd goal was absolutely horrendous, a punt from the Dutch defender from way in her own half and it splits the defence

[Brightside]

that 3rd goal was absolutely horrendous, a punt from the Dutch defender from way in her own half and it splits the defence

I’m not a huge fan of Howard but she’s been on in league games. It’s just a lack of players challenging for defence. Keeper and CBs need to be replaced but we are struggling to develop good defenders. McLean at DM will be top class. Watson will be great too assuming she recovers from her ACL. But there aren’t much coming behind them. That’s all down to the poor league and coaching setup in Scotland.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Eilidh Adams has signed a contract extension through to the summer of 2026

[cabbageandribs1875]

Maciver starts in goals against the Netherlands tonight

[cabbageandribs1875]

FT's

Dundee u 0 Celtic 2
Montrose 0 Hibernian 8, four for Ferguson with the 4th coming on 90+2
Partick Thistle 3 Hamilton 0
Rangers 3 Spartans 1



67 mins played Hearts 0 Glasgow City 0
33 mins played Motherwell 0 Aberdeen 0

[marinello59]

FT's

Dundee u 0 Celtic 2
Montrose 0 Hibernian 8, four for Ferguson with the 4th coming on 90+2
Partick Thistle 3 Hamilton 0
Rangers 3 Spartans 1



67 mins played Hearts 0 Glasgow City 0
33 mins played Motherwell 0 Aberdeen 0

Well done to Hibs. And a great day for Ferguson. I really should have gone to that game today gutted I didn't.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Well done to Hibs. And a great day for Ferguson. I really should have gone to that game today gutted I didn't.


yup, level on points in 4th with hearts on 20 points, hearts picked up a very good point with Glasgow City today 0-0


elsewhere after 50 mins Motherwell 1 Aberdeen 1

FT 2-5

[hibby rae]

The game's on youtube at the moment if anyone is looking for a Sunday football fix, currently one nil through a Eilidh Adams goal.

Also, the Hearts game is next week 3pm Saturday at ER. Tickets are free

[BobbyT1875]

Watched a bit . Around 200 watching in YouTube. Suspect Won’t be a big crowd next week despite being free. Wasn’t last couple at ER and PBS.

I read club funding womens team to the tune of £400k a year . £400k taken out first team budget.

You can tell women love playing. But should be Amature level players in Scotland. Not enough crowd interest to make it sustainable

[hibby rae]

Watched a bit . Around 200 watching in YouTube. Suspect Won’t be a big crowd next week despite being free. Wasn’t last couple at ER and PBS.

I read club funding womens team to the tune of £400k a year . £400k taken out first team budget.

You can tell women love playing. But should be Amature level players in Scotland. Not enough crowd interest to make it sustainable

I would say it's not 400k out of the first team budget because it was never in the budget. It's up to the Gordon's if they want to invest in a growing sport

[Danderhall Hibs]

The game's on youtube at the moment if anyone is looking for a Sunday football fix, currently one nil through a Eilidh Adams goal.

Also, the Hearts game is next week 3pm Saturday at ER. Tickets are free

2pm I think mate

[BobbyT1875]

I would say it's not 400k out of the first team budget because it was never in the budget. It's up to the Gordon's if they want to invest in a growing sport

It would be in the first team budget . It’s not growing in Scotland and no evidence it will

[Danderhall Hibs]

It would be in the first team budget . It’s not growing in Scotland and no evidence it will

You don’t know that - they’ve chosen to invest in this as well - if they chose not to there’s no guarantee they’d put it in the first team budget.

[BobbyT1875]

You don’t know that - they’ve chosen to invest in this as well - if they chose not to there’s no guarantee they’d put it in the first team budget.

How do you know what l know ? Do
You know what questions I’ve asked ?

[Danderhall Hibs]

How do you know what l know ? Do
You know what questions I’ve asked ?

No I don’t. Fair enough - what questions have you asked?

[BobbyT1875]

No I don’t. Fair enough - what questions have you asked?

The questions that the money would be spent on the first team .

[Danderhall Hibs]

The questions that the money would be spent on the first team .

How many questions? Who to? When?

Who did you ask about the evidence to show the games not growing?

[hibby rae]

It would be in the first team budget . It’s not growing in Scotland and no evidence it will

You can't say that unless you've had a conversation with the Gordon's and they've said 'we'd stick 400k more into the men's team if we didn't have a women's team'.

Compare the game with 10 years ago, evidence it's growing.

I would say one thing I think would allow the game to grow more would be to return the league to a summer season, which I don't think they will. Reasons being it won't be competing as much for paying spectators or media coverage with the men's game and it's a very family-friendly game and I think people would be more inclined to take young kids to the game when the weather isn't baltic.

[marinello59]

The game's on youtube at the moment if anyone is looking for a Sunday football fix, currently one nil through a Eilidh Adams goal.

Also, the Hearts game is next week 3pm Saturday at ER. Tickets are free

A superb 7-0 win. Really enjoyed that.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Sky Sports Cup QF results

Celtic 3 Glasgow City 0
Partick Thistle 2 Montrose 1
Hibernian 7 Dundee United 0...Adams hat-trick, Notley, Doran-Barr, Shivs & i think it was Bowie the other
Rangers 7 Boroughmuir 0

[marinello59]

Watched a bit . Around 200 watching in YouTube. Suspect Won’t be a big crowd next week despite being free. Wasn’t last couple at ER and PBS.

I read club funding womens team to the tune of £400k a year . £400k taken out first team budget.

You can tell women love playing. But should be Amature level players in Scotland. Not enough crowd interest to make it sustainable

This website sponsors five women players and the Girls Academy and are incredibly proud to do so. The women’s game is growing, will continue to do so and our Daughters and Grandaughters deserve the chance to make a living from the game we all love.

[Northernhibee]

This website sponsors five women players and the Girls Academy and are incredibly proud to do so. The women’s game is growing, will continue to do so and our Daughters and Grandaughters deserve the chance to make a living from the game we all love.
Plus the best way to grow the Hibernian women's team and make it sustainable is to invest in it, make it successful, market it well, and provide an enjoyable match day experience. The women's team have played in front of thousands at both Easter Road and Tynecastle, had some cracking players come through, and will surely continue to grow going forward.

I honestly enjoy going to watch the women's team more than the men's team more often than not nowadays.

[BobbyT1875]

Plus the best way to grow the Hibernian women's team and make it sustainable is to invest in it, make it successful, market it well, and provide an enjoyable match day experience. The women's team have played in front of thousands at both Easter Road and Tynecastle, had some cracking players come through, and will surely continue to grow going forward.

I honestly enjoy going to watch the women's team more than the men's team more often than not nowadays.

Despite it being free crowds are falling. Look at the last derby at PBS and ER.

[BobbyT1875]

This website sponsors five women players and the Girls Academy and are incredibly proud to do so. The women’s game is growing, will continue to do so and our Daughters and Grandaughters deserve the chance to make a living from the game we all love.

They won’t be doing that in Scotland as the demand isn’t there .

[hibby rae]

Despite it being free crowds are falling. Look at the last derby at PBS and ER.

Compare the attendance at the 2019 Scottish Cup final and last year's League Cup final. Hibs played in both.

The former had a crowd of around 1900, the latter around 3800. So in the space of 4 years there has been an approximate 100% increase. That's very good going in a such a short space of time. Add to that the 2022 game was also on Sky Sports.

[hibby rae]

A superb 7-0 win. Really enjoyed that.

Next round will be very difficult. Fingers crossed the Old Firm draw each other.

[Danderhall Hibs]

They won’t be doing that in Scotland as the demand isn’t there .

I’d still like to hear the answers to the questions I asked earlier but can you add - what questions did you ask to find this out to the list?

[BobbyT1875]

Compare the attendance at the 2019 Scottish Cup final and last year's League Cup final. Hibs played in both.

The former had a crowd of around 1900, the latter around 3800. So in the space of 4 years there has been an approximate 100% increase. That's very good going in a such a short space of time. Add to that the 2022 game was also on Sky Sports.
That’s true . But it was free to get in . It’s also a huge drop
Off from record crowd at ER.

I walked past meadowbank , l Think it was a Sunday, on route to ER, hibs women were playing. I counted circa 50 fans . Wouldn’t have covered the rent of meadowbank

[Northernhibee]

That’s true . But it was free to get in . It’s also a huge drop
Off from record crowd at ER.

I walked past meadowbank , l Think it was a Sunday, on route to ER, hibs women were playing. I counted circa 50 fans . Wouldn’t have covered the rent of meadowbank

The league cup final wasn't free.

[Danderhall Hibs]

That’s true . But it was free to get in . It’s also a huge drop
Off from record crowd at ER.

I walked past meadowbank , l Think it was a Sunday, on route to ER, hibs women were playing. I counted circa 50 fans . Wouldn’t have covered the rent of meadowbank

They could do more - scheduling games that clash with the mens team doesn’t help like you say. Could maybe play at ER as a curtain raiser or something?

[BobbyT1875]

They could do more - scheduling games that clash with the mens team doesn’t help like you say. Could maybe play at ER as a curtain raiser or something?

Yes good dea

[GreenCastle]

Meadowbank is crap stadium for watching football.

Both Hibs and Hearts women’s teams don’t have great set ups for league matches. Ideally they would play at a venue which has a better spectator experience.

[marinello59]

They won’t be doing that in Scotland as the demand isn’t there .

Some are already being paid.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/400750330_739952701504028_1263430811995484452_n.jp g?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=s75wP7g2adkAX-DZUFX&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfAF62Vi52_yb7TNB1gSOhS4AYbAnOB1VpTv5QNEeq2S Gw&oe=6556B692

[Malonga's Cat]

Meadowbank is crap stadium for watching football.

Both Hibs and Hearts women’s teams don’t have great set ups for league matches. Ideally they would play at a venue which has a better spectator experience.

100% this. (new) Meadowbank is a joke for football. Must be better options out there for us.

[JimBHibees]

They won’t be doing that in Scotland as the demand isn’t there .

Depends what you are comparing the demand to. Certainly interest in women's football in terms of participation has never been higher.

[JimBHibees]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/400750330_739952701504028_1263430811995484452_n.jp g?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=s75wP7g2adkAX-DZUFX&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfAF62Vi52_yb7TNB1gSOhS4AYbAnOB1VpTv5QNEeq2S Gw&oe=6556B692

Good to see.

[Brightside]

Some are already being paid.

Almost all of the top 5 teams are on paid contracts now.

[blackpoolhibs]

Compare the attendance at the 2019 Scottish Cup final and last year's League Cup final. Hibs played in both.

The former had a crowd of around 1900, the latter around 3800. So in the space of 4 years there has been an approximate 100% increase. That's very good going in a such a short space of time. Add to that the 2022 game was also on Sky Sports.

Who did we play in these games?

[Crunchie]

Who did we play in these games?

An educated guess would be Glasgow City

[Danderhall Hibs]

It was Rangers in last years LC final.

[blackpoolhibs]

It was Rangers in last years LC final.

Could the increase in the crowds be because we played the **** in the 2nd game?

[hibby rae]

Could the increase in the crowds be because we played the **** in the 2nd game?

If we'd played them in the pre-pandemic final the crowd would have still been lower, they never used to get a crowd going until they started winning.

[blackpoolhibs]

If we'd played them in the pre-pandemic final the crowd would have still been lower, they never used to get a crowd going until they started winning.

They have started winning because they are throwing money at the team.

[hibby rae]

They have started winning because they are throwing money at the team.

Well that's not a secret

[Malthibby]

Got a friend now taking his 10 year old daughter to all the home matches, on the back of watching women's footie on the telly.
She is loving it.
Neither had been in a football stadium before & now a very good chance of another two long term Hibees joining the club.
GG

[JimBHibees]

Got a friend now taking his 10 year old daughter to all the home matches, on the back of watching women's footie on the telly.
She is loving it.
Neither had been in a football stadium before & now a very good chance of another two long term Hibees joining the club.
GG

That is brilliant

[marinello59]

Got a friend now taking his 10 year old daughter to all the home matches, on the back of watching women's footie on the telly.
She is loving it.
Neither had been in a football stadium before & now a very good chance of another two long term Hibees joining the club.
GG

Superb.

[linlithgowhibbie]

Got a friend now taking his 10 year old daughter to all the home matches, on the back of watching women's footie on the telly.
She is loving it.
Neither had been in a football stadium before & now a very good chance of another two long term Hibees joining the club.
GG

Poor parenting!!! Should have dragged her to Easter Road in her nappies, fed her sweets and taught her all the songs!:thumbsup::greengrin

[Carheenlea]

My daughter and her friend picked up some tickets at the Hibs Kids game on Saturday and enjoyed meeting the players who were at the table promoting this Saturdays game. They’ve been before to the Tynecastle women’s derby and sat with a Hearts supporting friend who came with us to the Hibs section.

Hadn’t given this one a lot of thought admittedly, but with international break, free tickets and a game at Easter Road it sounded a good way to spend Saturday afternoon. With the international break it may see a few more tickets shifted than normal with folk maybe at a bit of a loose end.

[Wheat Hound]

We've just been drawn V Partick in the cup semi with the old firm in the other one. A great chance to get to a cup final.

[hibby rae]

We've just been drawn V Partick in the cup semi with the old firm in the other one. A great chance to get to a cup final.

Tough but winnable, I think we might actually have a better away record than home against Partick recently

[Pretty Boy]

Got a friend now taking his 10 year old daughter to all the home matches, on the back of watching women's footie on the telly.
She is loving it.
Neither had been in a football stadium before & now a very good chance of another two long term Hibees joining the club.
GG

My daughter definitely prefers the women's game.

This is her 2nd season of having a ST at ER and she isn't really into it at all tbh. She goes because it's a day with dad but the sweets and juice are a big part of the attraction and the Nintendo Switch is out the bag before a ball has been kicked. When we go to the women's games she is far more engaged and actually seems interested in the football; I suppose it comes down to the old 'seeing is believing' thing.

I'm not sure about how big the growth in spectating at women's games has been, it seems to have been good but maybe not as sustained as elsewhere, but in terms of participation it is off the scale since I was a child and in my teens. I barely knew a girl who played football, now there seems to be more girls teams than boys teams in the parks around me.

My view on it is pretty simple. My daughter likes football and I can be a dinosaur and tell her 'it's a man's game', I can be a hypocrite and encourage her but in turn mock other girls and women playing the game, make crap and tired jokes about doing the dishes and hoovering and talk them down or I can be fully supportive of women's football because girls who love the game should have exactly the same dreams as the boys. I think the 3rd is by far the best option.

[TrinityHFC]

My daughter definitely prefers the women's game.

This is her 2nd season of having a ST at ER and she isn't really into it at all tbh. She goes because it's a day with dad but the sweets and juice are a big part of the attraction and the Nintendo Switch is out the bag before a ball has been kicked. When we go to the women's games she is far more engaged and actually seems interested in the football; I suppose it comes down to the old 'seeing is believing' thing.

I'm not sure about how big the growth in spectating at women's games has been, it seems to have been good but maybe not as sustained as elsewhere, but in terms of participation it is off the scale since I was a child and in my teens. I barely knew a girl who played football, now there seems to be more girls teams than boys teams in the parks around me.

My view on it is pretty simple. My daughter likes football and I can be a dinosaur and tell her 'it's a man's game', I can be a hypocrite and encourage her but in turn mock other girls and women playing the game, make crap and tired jokes about doing the dishes and hoovering and talk them down or I can be fully supportive of women's football because girls who love the game should have exactly the same dreams as the boys. I think the 3rd is by far the best option.

All that is true but there's a huge difference between a participation sport and one that is a viable professional one. I think it is brilliant that there is a much bigger participation and that nothing is anyone's way if they want to play football.

I'm less convinced that clubs of ours size should be sustaining women's teams when the audience and the money isn't there. Again, no one should be blocking that happening if it can fund itself but that isn't yet close to happening.

[Since90+2]

All that is true but there's a huge difference between a participation sport and one that is a viable professional one. I think it is brilliant that there is a much bigger participation and that nothing is anyone's way if they want to play football.

I'm less convinced that clubs of ours size should be sustaining women's teams when the audience and the money isn't there. Again, no one should be blocking that happening if it can fund itself but that isn't yet close to happening.

Football is a viable professional route for an absolutely tiny proportion of people who play it probably about 0.1%, men or women. I don't see that as an issue at all.

I'd actually hazard a guess the amount of women who play football at a young age and make it to professional level is the same if not higher than men in the last few years.

[hibby rae]

All that is true but there's a huge difference between a participation sport and one that is a viable professional one. I think it is brilliant that there is a much bigger participation and that nothing is anyone's way if they want to play football.

I'm less convinced that clubs of ours size should be sustaining women's teams when the audience and the money isn't there. Again, no one should be blocking that happening if it can fund itself but that isn't yet close to happening.

I think there is a very important point to be made here, I very much doubt the club itself is the one funding it. The money going to the women's team will be coming from the Gordons, not the club as such. It's not gate receipts at ER, or Sky money, it's not taking anything away, because it wasn't there to begin with.

[TrinityHFC]

I think there is a very important point to be made here, I very much doubt the club itself is the one funding it. The money going to the women's team will be coming from the Gordons, not the club as such. It's not gate receipts at ER, or Sky money, it's not taking anything away, because it wasn't there to begin with.

I don't know if the money is coming from the Gordon's to pay for the women's team. Can you point to where that's been confirmed?

Anyway, my point was a more general one than Hibs.

I don't think any professional level sport can be justified unless people are willing to pay to watch it / fund it. Equally no one should be stopped from developing to that level.

There's a lot of comment about equal access to facilities and taking the Scottish games as examples the likes of Hibs and Hearts women have played games at Easter Road and Tynecastle. These facilities have been funded by Men's football.

A very minor example but I think the members of this site have also decided that some of the donations are now going to the women's team. Again, those members have every right to do that - but that would be cash, albeit minimal, that probably would have gone to fund something within the men's set up. It all comes from somewhere and there just isn't an audience there to fund a professional sport just now in this country.

[Eyrie]

I know you said it's a minor example but as a Hibs fan who posts here I'm happy that this site is putting money into a Hibs team by sponsoring Hibs players.

What I'm not happy about is being doubled booked on Saturday so I won't make the derby.

[CropleyWasGod]

I think there is a very important point to be made here, I very much doubt the club itself is the one funding it. The money going to the women's team will be coming from the Gordons, not the club as such. It's not gate receipts at ER, or Sky money, it's not taking anything away, because it wasn't there to begin with.


I don't know if the money is coming from the Gordon's to pay for the women's team. Can you point to where that's been confirmed?



For those of us not in the know, that won't be clear until the 2023 accounts come out.

[Brightside]

All that is true but there's a huge difference between a participation sport and one that is a viable professional one. I think it is brilliant that there is a much bigger participation and that nothing is anyone's way if they want to play football.

I'm less convinced that clubs of ours size should be sustaining women's teams when the audience and the money isn't there. Again, no one should be blocking that happening if it can fund itself but that isn't yet close to happening.

If you only allow sports that can fund themselves half the sports you currently watch on tv would never have go to that level. The vast majority of Scottish teams struggle to fund themselves. If Hibs ltd decide to invest in women’s sport that’s totally up to them and quite simply none of our business. Womens football is not a substainble business in Scotland. But that’s the same for lots of sports.

[Brightside]

I know you said it's a minor example but as a Hibs fan who posts here I'm happy that this site is putting money into a Hibs team by sponsoring Hibs players.

What I'm not happy about is being doubled booked on Saturday so I won't make the derby.

Tbf to people who run this site. Buying some strips for the youth team is really not taking anything away from the men’s team.

[cabbageandribs1875]

over 5k have claimed their free tickets for saturday



source: oor club

[Malthibby]

My daughter definitely prefers the women's game.

This is her 2nd season of having a ST at ER and she isn't really into it at all tbh. She goes because it's a day with dad but the sweets and juice are a big part of the attraction and the Nintendo Switch is out the bag before a ball has been kicked. When we go to the women's games she is far more engaged and actually seems interested in the football; I suppose it comes down to the old 'seeing is believing' thing.

I'm not sure about how big the growth in spectating at women's games has been, it seems to have been good but maybe not as sustained as elsewhere, but in terms of participation it is off the scale since I was a child and in my teens. I barely knew a girl who played football, now there seems to be more girls teams than boys teams in the parks around me.

My view on it is pretty simple. My daughter likes football and I can be a dinosaur and tell her 'it's a man's game', I can be a hypocrite and encourage her but in turn mock other girls and women playing the game, make crap and tired jokes about doing the dishes and hoovering and talk them down or I can be fully supportive of women's football because girls who love the game should have exactly the same dreams as the boys. I think the 3rd is by far the best option.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[BILLYHIBS]

For anyone unable to make today’s game the match will be streamed live on the BBC Sport website kick off 2 pm

Apologies if already posted

Link on Hibernian Women twitter

https://hibernianfc.co.uk/article/preview-hearts-h-3

Sorted

[Hibbyradge]

For anyone unable to make today’s game the match will be streamed live on the BBC Sport website kick off 2 pm

Apologies if already posted

Link on Hibernian Women twitter

https://hibernianfc.co.uk/article/preview-hearts-h-3

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It's also on iPlayer.

[BILLYHIBS]

It's also on iPlayer.

👍

[jeffers]

Can’t find it on iplayer.

[Golden Bear]

Can’t find it on iplayer.

Snap.

[Billy Whizz]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/67434118

[Cod Boy]

Can’t get it via the tv

[jeffers]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/67434118

Cheers. Finally got it via browser on my firestick, couldn’t get login to appear on my tv’s browser.

[The Tubs]

I was about to put it on but it doesn't seem to be on Hibs TV.

[BILLYHIBS]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/67434118

This

[linlithgowhibbie]

Snap.
Me too

[HH81]

Can’t get it via the tv

I used my tv browser and signed into bbc and it's let me watch it on the tv.

[Golden Bear]

This

Thanks Billy. Got it working now via my TV browser.

[Cod Boy]

I player on tv more interested in the games down south

[Wheat Hound]

On the iplayer now

[Baader]

If you go to channels on the iplayer menu and go to Scotland you'll see it there.

[The Captain....]

Pretty scrappy, lots of miscontrolled touches and poor passing.

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[Golden Bear]

Well that was aboot exciting as a cauld fish supper. Hopefully things can only get better in the second half.

[Cod Boy]

If you go to channels on the iplayer menu and go to Scotland you'll see it there.

Thank you

[JohnM1875]

Aye, don’t think I’ll bother with the second half. Pleased for the team that there’s a decent turnout though! Hopefully can get a winner.

[greenlex]

Derby’s not great. Wish I’d gone to the Arniston v Dalkeith game.

[Hibs90]

Any reason why the best striker who recently just nipped over the 100 games mark is on the bench? :confused:

[greenlex]

Any reason why the best striker who recently just nipped over the 100 goals mark is on the bench? :confused:

Working her move probably.

[Hibs90]

Working her move probably.

:greengrin

[The Captain....]

Goal hibernian!

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[BILLYHIBS]

Hibs 1 v 0 Hearts

Baucom

[greenlex]

The Female Mixu pops up with a goal.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

2-0, Baucom again although slight hint of an OG.

[The Captain....]

2 nil

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[BILLYHIBS]

Hibs 2 v 0 Hearts

Baucom

[cabbageandribs1875]

2-0

[Hibs90]

Well that's me shut up :greengrin

[greenlex]

Mixu again.

[greenlex]

We want seven.

[Dougie9]

Any reason why the best striker who recently just nipped over the 100 goals mark is on the bench? :confused:

100 games, rather than goals


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[Hibs90]

100 games, rather than goals


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Aye that's what I meant, honest :greengrin

[Golden Bear]

Apparently you can still have "man to man" marking in the Women's game.

😁

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

2-1

[greenlex]

2-1
Kin boooooo

[Hibs90]

A lot of poor decision making

[cabbageandribs1875]

we're so wasteful with our passes


and yet again


5 mins+


has it been mentioned why eilidh adams wasn't playing from the start after her hat-trick last week


5,365

[cabbageandribs1875]

well done


up to 4th spot again

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Almost an equaliser at the death, oh well. 😊

[The Captain....]

Held on for the win. The standard has deteriorated markedly the last couple of times I've seen a game compared to a few years ago. It was a pretty shocking standard of football..with occasional individual contributions that were decent. Neither side passed the ball well at all.

Having said that always good to beat them so well done ladies.

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[Pretty Boy]

Enjoyed that. 1st half was scrappy and both teams cancelled each other out.

2nd half I thought Hibs were by far the better side and with some better decision making we could have run out far more comfortable winners.

I thought we were in for a typical Hibs derby story at the end buy keeper has done really well to win it for us.

[hibby rae]

2-1 flattered Hearts imo. Only got really got back into the game cause they had fresher legs after earlier subs.

Hibs could/should have put the game to bed but just needed a touch more composure on the break. Great save by Fraine at the end, last season we probably would have conceded at that point

[hibby rae]

we're so wasteful with our passes


and yet again


5 mins+


has it been mentioned why eilidh adams wasn't playing from the start after her hat-trick last week


5,365

Scott likes to rotate the 9s. Have to say he made the right call today

[green day]

Anyone thinking the quality wasn't great should have a look at Pars v Inverness.

Murder, just kick and rush fitba.

[hibby rae]

Anyone thinking the quality wasn't great should have a look at Pars v Inverness.

Murder, just kick and rush fitba.

Or just watched last week's game at Easter Road 😂

[LewysGot2]

2-1 flattered Hearts imo. Only got really got back into the game cause they had fresher legs after earlier subs.

Hibs could/should have put the game to bed but just needed a touch more composure on the break. Great save by Fraine at the end, last season we probably would have conceded at that point

Agreed. Hibs definitely the better outfit. The right result and always good to beat them. Their entitlement is off the scale no matter when we play them so always good to put them in their box.

Thought, until Baucom scored her brace and generally did well 2nd half, that Mickey was the most influential player on the park. Getting a decent manager back in has definitely halted any suggestion Hearts were progressing beyond us for the first time. Am afraid the Gibson tenure was an unfortunate one at a time other clubs were getting their things together- especially the Uglies.

Judy Murray was at the game, as was Elie Youan and NM and his coaching team. Good to see them seeing the club as more than just one dimensional. Well done, Hibees. Capital Cup retained and natural order very much back.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Scott likes to rotate the 9s. Have to say he made the right call today


ta, interesting i've not really noticed that, bit unfair on the lassie scoring a hattrick and then dropped and only getting the last 5 mins remaining of the next game, a tad unfair imo of course :) i'l look out for this in the next game

surprised Siobhan Hunter didn't get on

[weecounty hibby]

Any level, any age, any sex, any competition, any sport Hibs beating hearts brings a smile to my face. Well done ladies

[truehibernian]

Any level, any age, any sex, any competition, any sport Hibs beating hearts brings a smile to my face. Well done ladies

This 👍

[O'Rourke3]

Any level, any age, any sex, any competition, any sport Hibs beating hearts brings a smile to my face. Well done ladiesYip

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[Tyler Durden]

First ever women’s game for me today and my sons first trip to Easter Road.

Have to say the first half was a shocker. Maybe a bit of nerves with the crowd? Anyway much better second half. Thought that our number 8 showed a lot of tenacity and was great at winning the ball but not necessarily picking a pass. However in the 2nd half she hit some raking diagonals with a lot of quality. Marked difference after the break.

Also thought our left winger did well and was surprised she went off.

Fair play to the Jambo who set up their goal too, the footwork and cross was probably the best bit of individual skill in the game IMO.

[Donegal Hibby]

Goal highlights.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/football/67465366

[Jay]

I was there today. Really enjoyed it. I think people judge it on the mens game and it's not. It's different tactics and skills because of the difference between the sexes. We won some fantastic midfield battles and were really skillful today. The crosses and final ball let us down a lot but we were strong in some feisty battles and deserved our win..could've done without the nervy last 10 but deserved the win. Well done ladies.

[Northernhibee]

We were the better team - Hearts seemed stronger and quicker in key areas but we set our stall up well and second half in particular won our key battles.

Improvement from under the previous manager for sure.

Nice to have a last minute scare that doesn’t end in heartbreak for once.

[BobbyT1875]

What was the banner for “football as no gender “. What does it mean ?

[marinello59]

Any level, any age, any sex, any competition, any sport Hibs beating hearts brings a smile to my face. Well done ladies

This.
We won a Derby today and were the better team for most of the match. Happy days.

[BILLYHIBS]

What was the banner for “football as no gender “. What does it mean ?

Football has no gender ?

[gaz1875]

Scrappy first half which we appeared to dominate possession wise, second half we dominated all over the pitch until the last 15 minutes and they pulled one back, although the BBC stats seem to say otherwise. McAlonie & McGregor were both fantastic in midfield breaking up play and pushing us forward, and Baucum goals apart pressuring their defenders. Nervy finish but we really should have finished them off earlier.

[BobbyT1875]

Football has no gender ?

Yes , there was a banner in east stand . Don’t know who to attach a picture

[greenlex]

Yes , there was a banner in east stand . Don’t know who to attach a picture

It means football has no gender.

[hibby rae]

ta, interesting i've not really noticed that, bit unfair on the lassie scoring a hattrick and then dropped and only getting the last 5 mins remaining of the next game, a tad unfair imo of course :) i'l look out for this in the next game

surprised Siobhan Hunter didn't get on

Eddie and Lawson were looking pretty solid and didn't seem as tired as some others, I'd say a general rule in any game is don't change the CHs if you don't need to

[hibby rae]

Agreed. Hibs definitely the better outfit. The right result and always good to beat them. Their entitlement is off the scale no matter when we play them so always good to put them in their box.

Thought, until Baucom scored her brace and generally did well 2nd half, that Mickey was the most influential player on the park. Getting a decent manager back in has definitely halted any suggestion Hearts were progressing beyond us for the first time. Am afraid the Gibson tenure was an unfortunate one at a time other clubs were getting their things together- especially the Uglies.

Judy Murray was at the game, as was Elie Youan and NM and his coaching team. Good to see them seeing the club as more than just one dimensional. Well done, Hibees. Capital Cup retained and natural order very much back.

Definitely, you can see the improvement with Scott being back. There was a clear plan with our signing policy and on the pitch.

One advantage of watching them at Easter Road opposed to Meadowbank is the vantage point gives you a better idea of the plan, in particular it was interesting to see how fluid the defence is as we constantly switched between having 2 at the back, to 3, to 4.

[Pretty Boy]

Eddie and Lawson were looking pretty solid and didn't seem as tired as some others, I'd say a general rule in any game is don't change the CHs if you don't need to

Hopefully Monty was taking notes😅

[Pretty Boy]

Scrappy first half which we appeared to dominate possession wise, second half we dominated all over the pitch until the last 15 minutes and they pulled one back, although the BBC stats seem to say otherwise. McAlonie & McGregor were both fantastic in midfield breaking up play and pushing us forward, and Baucum goals apart pressuring their defenders. Nervy finish but we really should have finished them off earlier.

I thought McAlonie was the best player on the park, particularly in the 2nd half. She needs to learn to improve her decision making and to move the ball a bit quicker but that will come. She'll play at a higher level imo. I thought Naomi Powell was everywhere and worked her socks off and Katie Fraine continues to look a big upgrade in goals.

I was also impressed by the Hearts number 4 (Brownlie I think). She had a nervy first few minutes but looked more and more of a player as the game went on.

[Northernhibee]

I thought McAlonie was the best player on the park, particularly in the 2nd half. She needs to learn to improve her decision making and to move the ball a bit quicker but that will come. She'll play at a higher level imo. I thought Naomi Powell was everywhere and worked her socks off and Katie Fraine continues to look a big upgrade in goals.

I was also impressed by the Hearts number 4 (Brownlie I think). She had a nervy first few minutes but looked more and more of a player as the game went on.

McAlonie is brilliant, all energy. Needs to stop trying to do so busy by herself but gives it everything.

[hibby rae]

I thought McAlonie was the best player on the park, particularly in the 2nd half. She needs to learn to improve her decision making and to move the ball a bit quicker but that will come. She'll play at a higher level imo. I thought Naomi Powell was everywhere and worked her socks off and Katie Fraine continues to look a big upgrade in goals.

I was also impressed by the Hearts number 4 (Brownlie I think). She had a nervy first few minutes but looked more and more of a player as the game went on.

Yeah Emma Brownlie, ex-Hibs and then Rangers via Everton, won a few cups with us. I was annoyed when Hearts signed her as I would have liked her back

[hibby rae]

Out of interest I had a look at JKB. Some wild takes e.g. they're going backwards under their coach, and Hibs still field a team of amateur players.


But couldn't notice that the fans on that forum seem to be less supportive of having a women's team/or more derogatory than here (it's very rare to see a derogatory take here)

[Danderhall Hibs]

Out of interest I had a look at JKB. Some wild takes e.g. they're going backwards under their coach, and Hibs still field a team of amateur players.


But couldn't notice that the fans on that forum seem to be less supportive of having a women's team/or more derogatory than here (it's very rare to see a derogatory take here)

That’s interesting. I was told yesterday that Hearts pay a decent wage so I assume their expectations have went massive due to that?

[McD]

Is Rachel Boyle still injured?

[hibby rae]

Is Rachel Boyle still injured?

Yep, can't remember when she's due back. But it was a crap injury

[Brightside]

Out of interest I had a look at JKB. Some wild takes e.g. they're going backwards under their coach, and Hibs still field a team of amateur players.


But couldn't notice that the fans on that forum seem to be less supportive of having a women's team/or more derogatory than here (it's very rare to see a derogatory take here)

Both the coaches at Hearts are very good. They have brought in Gavin Beath as assistant, and he's an excellent coach who looks after international youth squads.

Hearts made a big thing about their investment. In reality it wasn't that much - £100k a year and it comes from the benefactor, anything else comes from sponsorship.

[hibby rae]

That’s interesting. I was told yesterday that Hearts pay a decent wage so I assume their expectations have went massive due to that?

When have they not had high expectations often detached from reality?

The take about the coach is weird, one complained they've taken a step backwards in derbies under her. As far as I know they'd literally never won against Hibs until her tenure.

[lugz]

Yep, can't remember when she's due back. But it was a crap injury

Done her ACL, won't be back till the new year unfortunately.

[hibby rae]

Sounds like a really bad one for Rebecca Galbraith of Spartans. Took a head knock on the pitch, after being treated for about 15 mins the ref has suspended play and the players have went in to the dressing room

[Pretty Boy]

Sounds like a really bad one for Rebecca Galbraith of Spartans. Took a head knock on the pitch, after being treated for about 15 mins the ref has suspended play and the players have went in to the dressing room

Play has now resumed which I'm hoping means good news, relatively speaking.

[hibby rae]

Play has now resumed which I'm hoping means good news, relatively speaking.

Sounds like it was a good 25 mins before she was stretchered off.

I assume she'll be away to hospital and they might not wanted to move her until it arrived?

[Viva_Palmeiras]

What was the banner for “football as no gender “. What does it mean ?

football is for everyone - we’re all Hibs.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_UR8DhWsAA-ZEp?format=png&name=4096x4096

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

Both the coaches at Hearts are very good. They have brought in Gavin Beath as assistant, and he's an excellent coach who looks after international youth squads.

Hearts made a big thing about their investment. In reality it wasn't that much - £100k a year and it comes from the benefactor, anything else comes from sponsorship.

It was interesting to see that Anderson, the main benefactor of the Hearts men's team, is a key sponsor of Glasgow City (his wife is on the board) and presumably not Hearts Women.

[hibby rae]

Both the coaches at Hearts are very good. They have brought in Gavin Beath as assistant, and he's an excellent coach who looks after international youth squads.

Hearts made a big thing about their investment. In reality it wasn't that much - £100k a year and it comes from the benefactor, anything else comes from sponsorship.

Another JKB take was Hearts are one of the worst teams at playing young players

[Brightside]

Another JKB take was Hearts are one of the worst teams at playing young players

And that’s bollocks too. Unfortunately the best young players are at the 3 top teams. I can’t think of a single player from hearts 18s or Hibs 18s who are good enough for Swpl football

[hibby rae]

And that’s bollocks too. Unfortunately the best young players are at the 3 top teams. I can’t think of a single player from hearts 18s or Hibs 18s who are good enough for Swpl football

I was told fairly recently senior players such as Eddie, Smally etc have been assigned youth players to mentor. Also, a certain number of u18s each week will train with the first team for a session.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I was told fairly recently senior players such as Eddie, Smally etc have been assigned youth players to mentor. Also, a certain number of u18s each week will train with the first team for a session.

The assistant manager is now in charge of the Academy too to help progress players to be ready for the first team. Unfortunately the previous management let it rot a bit and the academy was bundled in with the community with teams left to be managed in silo and left to the coaches to look after their own interests and not the clubs.

All being turned round for the good now though.

[hibby rae]

The assistant manager is now in charge of the Academy too to help progress players to be ready for the first team. Unfortunately the previous management let it rot a bit and the academy was bundled in with the community with teams left to be managed in silo and left to the coaches to look after their own interests and not the clubs.

All being turned round for the good now though.

Yeah my understanding is Scott returning was a popular move throughout the set-up

[He's here!]

There seems to be a general consensus that Meadowbank is a pretty awful place to watch football. Is there a reason the women's team can't play at ER? Might encourage more folk along if they were playing alternate weekends to the men (the way the reserve team used to back in the day). I don't personally go to away games any more but I'd be tempted down to a women's game if there was one on a Saturday afternoon. Might also be an idea for a season ticket to include admission to women's games. One of my work colleagues takes her daughter to quite a few of the Hibs women's games as her daughter's understandably much more into that than the men's game as she plays football herself and has enjoyed watching the increased coverage of the women's game on TV. Her dad actually stopped buying her a season ticket at ER as she just wasn't that interested, although he continues to go with her brother.

I guess it wouldn't be great for the pitch, but I also wondered if the women's games could be played as a curtain-raiser to the men's games, with season ticket holders able to attend both or (to use the example above) spread the benefit of the ticket around the family.

[grunt]

Hibs Women against Spartans today on BBC Alba at 4pm. Aberdeen Women currently 11 nil down against Celtic.

[cabbageandribs1875]

BBC iPlayer - Watch BBC ALBA live (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcalba)

[worcesterhibby]

It just struck me that Hibs have the perfect colours for a womens team - Green,white and Purple - the original colours used by suffragettes !

[marinello59]

A good start here, a goal surely coming soon.

[cabbageandribs1875]

A good start here, a goal surely coming soon.


correct :(

[marinello59]

A good start here, a goal surely coming soon.

Well I wasn’t wrong. :greengrin

1-0 Spartans. A long way to go.

[cabbageandribs1875]

nice header 1-1

[marinello59]

1-1
C’mon Hibs.

[cabbageandribs1875]

1-2

[marinello59]

1-2

A pretty nonchalant finish there as well. :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

1-3

game
set
and match

[marinello59]

1-3

game
set
and match

Aye, can’t see Spartans coming back from that. Ferguson and Mcalonie both impressive today.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Aye, can’t see Spartans coming back from that. Ferguson and Mcalonie both impressive today.


if it wasn't over then


it is now


1-4 :)

[hibby rae]

The keeper has to come for that. Well done by Notley to direct it down.

This is a very good result, Spartans might be having a poorer season but they consistently raise theit game against us

[marinello59]

Delighted to see all five players sponsored by hibs.net playing a part today. :thumbsup:

[cabbageandribs1875]

FT's

Celtic 13 Aberdeen 0
Dundee United 1 Glasgow City 3
Hearts 6 Hamilton 1
Motherwell 2 Partick Thistle 4
Rangers 7 Montrose 0
Spartans 1 Hibernian 4


still 5th behind the four Glasgow Sides, big test next for Hibs, i think that's 15 points taken from the last five games v sides below them but home v Glasgow City next up

[He's here!]

Good performance and result. Enjoyed the game.

A fine weekend overall for the Hibees.

[The Harp]

Fine performance by the Hibs girls. Good to see them playing so well.

[Cod Boy]

FT's

Celtic 13 Aberdeen 0
Dundee United 1 Glasgow City 3
Hearts 6 Hamilton 1
Motherwell 2 Partick Thistle 4
Rangers 7 Montrose 0
Spartans 1 Hibernian 4


still 5th behind the four Glasgow Sides, big test next for Hibs, i think that's 15 points taken from the last five games v sides below them but home v Glasgow City next up


Kris Boyd will be ragin that Aberdeen lay down to Celtic 😀

[gaz1875]

It just struck me that Hibs have the perfect colours for a womens team - Green,white and Purple - the original colours used by suffragettes !

Good spot!!

[hibby rae]

It just struck me that Hibs have the perfect colours for a womens team - Green,white and Purple - the original colours used by suffragettes !

in 2028 it'll be the 100th anniversary of equal voting rights in the UK, a themed strip that year would probably sell quite well to Hibs, and non-Hibs, supporters.

[PHeffernan]

FT's

Celtic 13 Aberdeen 0
Dundee United 1 Glasgow City 3
Hearts 6 Hamilton 1
Motherwell 2 Partick Thistle 4
Rangers 7 Montrose 0
Spartans 1 Hibernian 4


still 5th behind the four Glasgow Sides, big test next for Hibs, i think that's 15 points taken from the last five games v sides below them but home v Glasgow City next up

A severe credibility issue for the SWPL when the current 7th best and 6th best budgeted team in the country is beaten 13-0 by the 2nd top team.
Partick Thistle continue to be the best performing £ per point team in the country. The only team bucking the budgets in the top 7.

[Brightside]

A severe credibility issue for the SWPL when the current 7th best and 6th best budgeted team in the country is beaten 13-0 by the 2nd top team.
Partick Thistle continue to be the best performing £ per point team in the country. The only team bucking the budgets in the top 7.

Unless you tell the top teams that they can’t spend money then these results will continue.

[hibby rae]

Unless you tell the top teams that they can’t spend money then these results will continue.

This isn't something limited to the SWPL, every league/competition will have teams losing by silly margins, even in the top 5 leagues (Bayern have recorded a 7 and an 8 nil win already this season). Happens a bit more in the SWPL as teams are developing, if anything they have a more valid excuse.

[cabbageandribs1875]

A severe credibility issue for the SWPL when the current 7th best and 6th best budgeted team in the country is beaten 13-0 by the 2nd top team.
Partick Thistle continue to be the best performing £ per point team in the country. The only team bucking the budgets in the top 7.


Brian Graham doing a pretty good job so far

[PHeffernan]

Brian Graham doing a pretty good job so far

For the 2nd season in a row challenging Hibs and Hearts with a relative budget of buttons.

[cabbageandribs1875]

FT Belgium 1 Scotland 1, Scotland women very unlucky not to get more out of that game

[He's here!]

FT Belgium 1 Scotland 1, Scotland women very unlucky not to get more out of that game

Yes, lovely strike to equalise but the draw sees them relegated.

[hibby rae]

Yes, lovely strike to equalise but the draw sees them relegated.

We were unlucky with injuries this competition, much like the men's team, if we lose our best players to injury then there is a big drop. In saying that, I'm still not convinced by Losa at all and extending his contract to 2027 when he's not achieved anything yet (not qualifying for the WC was a massive failure) is madness.

[He's here!]

We were unlucky with injuries this competition, much like the men's team, if we lose our best players to injury then there is a big drop. In saying that, I'm still not convinced by Losa at all and extending his contract to 2027 when he's not achieved anything yet (not qualifying for the WC was a massive failure) is madness.

Yes they've been a bit unlucky to go down, having played well in spells and there's definitely potential there. They'll be keen to make life hard for England in their final game even if it impacts on GB Olympic hopes.

England have gone off the boil themselves of late but that was a cracking comeback against the Dutch last night.