Sportsound

[Carheenlea]

Their excuse for not providing a more balanced view of the issues in Scottish football over the Summer was that they continually invited people on but couldn't persuade them or they simply declined. What an impartial and responsible broadcaster should have done at that point was not to allow the other side of the argument to be represented in isolation and to provide listeners with an impartial, informed account by their own correspondents.

What we actually got was a seemingly endless stream of Hearts connected pundits providing no insight whatsoever beyond the line that what happened to Hearts was unfair, which it clearly wasn't, rather than unfortunate, which it clearly was, and to have this biased view reinforced ad nauseam by Tom English who provided no insight whatsoever beyond making it abundantly clear that he was biased. What they don't seem to realise is that this is a guaranteed recipe for losing listeners. I listen to Longbangers and Hibs Talk now for a more informed view and one that is genuinely less biased.

The Hibs podcasts you mention are biased towards Hibs, but we choose to listen because the hosts and guests are Hibs minded people like ourselves with a study into the latest regarding our club from completely our perspective being one that is of interest to Hibs fans. Every fan, certainly of the bigger supported clubs, will have the option to listen to their own clubs themed podcasts, but the national broadcaster has to be more impartial than it currently is and seriously needs to freshen up its pool of contributors to reflect that of an impartial broadcaster.

[Sammy7nil]

Neil McCann in tears 😭 that MCGinn was not sent off mentioned it about eight times. He has said Hibs are good but you can feel the hurt in his voice McGinn was not sent off 😂🥳

[green day]

Neil McCann in tears 😭 that MCGinn was not sent off mentioned it about eight times. He has said Hibs are good but you can feel the hurt in his voice McGinn was not sent off 😂🥳

Mccann is a stupid ****.

This is the actual rule that people paid to commentate might want to read up on............


Players who commit a foul to deny a goalscoring opportunity will no longer automatically be sent off, football's rule-making body has confirmed.


The previous 'triple-punishment' rule required a red card - and therefore a suspension - as well as the award of a penalty under those circumstances.


However, players committing accidental fouls that deny a goalscoring chance will now be cautioned instead.


But deliberate fouls will still incur a red card.

[matty_f]

Mccann is a stupid ****.

This is the actual rule that people paid to commentate might want to read up on............


Players who commit a foul to deny a goalscoring opportunity will no longer automatically be sent off, football's rule-making body has confirmed.


The previous 'triple-punishment' rule required a red card - and therefore a suspension - as well as the award of a penalty under those circumstances.


However, players committing accidental fouls that deny a goalscoring chance will now be cautioned instead.


But deliberate fouls will still incur a red card.

Was just about to post similar. If you’re going to greet on air, at least make sure you’re right.

[Alfred E Newman]

Mccann is a stupid ****.

This is the actual rule that people paid to commentate might want to read up on............


Players who commit a foul to deny a goalscoring opportunity will no longer automatically be sent off, football's rule-making body has confirmed.


The previous 'triple-punishment' rule required a red card - and therefore a suspension - as well as the award of a penalty under those circumstances.


However, players committing accidental fouls that deny a goalscoring chance will now be cautioned instead.


But deliberate fouls will still incur a red card.

I think McGinn knew what he was doing, he tried to catch him outside the box.

[hibbysam]

Mccann is a stupid ****.

This is the actual rule that people paid to commentate might want to read up on............


Players who commit a foul to deny a goalscoring opportunity will no longer automatically be sent off, football's rule-making body has confirmed.


The previous 'triple-punishment' rule required a red card - and therefore a suspension - as well as the award of a penalty under those circumstances.


However, players committing accidental fouls that deny a goalscoring chance will now be cautioned instead.


But deliberate fouls will still incur a red card.

The rule is actually that you must make a play for the ball. I don’t think anyone could argue that he made a play for the ball. I still think the penalty on Newell where he got injured was a stonewaller though. He was clearly caught and he didn’t make a meal of it like Tam said, it was just the way he was turning when caught.

[Carheenlea]

If a Hibs performance and result has got Neil McCann seething on a Friday night then you have to say that`s a great start to any weekend.

[Not In The Know]

Richard Gordon "Hibs are certainly going to be entertaining to watch at both ends this season"

"And yeah Ryan Porteous had his moments tonight!*"

Drip Drip Drip....


Dont fall for their pish if you still have to tune in because its the only way you can access a match.

*soft penalty and an own goal, on paper thats something. But he was magnificent first half for an U21 player.

[Cat Stanton]

If a Hibs performance and result has got Neil McCann seething on a Friday night then you have to say that`s a great start to any weekend.

I don't buy all the paranoia on this site about everyone on Radio Scotland hating Hibs etc etc (not all pundits and journalists are Tom English). That said, listening on the radio, I assumed McGinn was extraordinarily lucky not to be sent off because of all commentators', presenter's and pundits' reactions. And then I saw it on Sportscene - where (clearly correctly) nobody even queried whether it should have been a red card. It's enough to make a non-paranoid person paranoid..

[The 90+2]

I don't buy all the paranoia on this site about everyone on Radio Scotland hating Hibs etc etc (not all pundits and journalists are Tom English). That said, listening on the radio, I assumed McGinn was extraordinarily lucky not to be sent off because of all commentators', presenter's and pundits' reactions. And then I saw it on Sportscene - where (clearly correctly) nobody even queried whether it should have been a red card. It's enough to make a non-paranoid person paranoid..

Ahem “Didn’t” 😀

[Radium]

Good discussion over the last 50 minutes with Doncaster/ Mike Mulraney about getting fans into grounds

[green day]

If a Hibs performance and result has got Neil McCann seething on a Friday night then you have to say that`s a great start to any weekend.

Although, oddly he was almost over the top positive about our performance when he did the piece on the radio today.

[500miles]

I don't buy all the paranoia on this site about everyone on Radio Scotland hating Hibs etc etc (not all pundits and journalists are Tom English). That said, listening on the radio, I assumed McGinn was extraordinarily lucky not to be sent off because of all commentators', presenter's and pundits' reactions. And then I saw it on Sportscene - where (clearly correctly) nobody even queried whether it should have been a red card. It's enough to make a non-paranoid person paranoid..

It was either a pen or a red. If the ref thinks its a direct goalscoring opportunity, outside the box, its a free kick and a red. If it's a pen, the double jeopardy ruling comes in and the penalty reduces the card to a yellow.

It wasn't a bad foul, but it was a professional foul in a position that would ordinarily be a red.

[WhileTheChief..]

Good discussion over the last 50 minutes with Doncaster/ Mike Mulraney about getting fans into grounds

Agreed.

They take a lot of stick generally but both were very good today.

[J-C]

I think McGinn knew what he was doing, he tried to catch him outside the box.

He did catch him outside the box, if we had VAR, it would've overturned that penalty.

[delbert]

He did catch him outside the box, if we had VAR, it would've overturned that penalty.

McCann and Gordon still going on about Hamilton’s first penalty saying that McGinn should have been red carded - is there anyone who can get through to these utter rockets and point out that there is a little thing called the Laws of the Game which means that this incident could only have been a yellow card, or is it just as normal, worst case scenario must apply just because it’s Hibs, total uninformed, ignorant roasters !!

[B.H.F.C]

He did catch him outside the box, if we had VAR, it would've overturned that penalty.

If it had been given as a free kick there is a fair chance McGinn would have been sent off for denying a goal scoring opportunity. So with Rocky saving it, we maybe got away with one.

[MartinfaePorty]

I see Jason Leitch has come and denied having no fans is not a political decision. I'm sorry, but if the advice is that you can open up some business but not others, then surely the choosing of which do and don't get chosen is a political one? Yes, based on risk, but the test events were deemed a great success, so, unless we're going back to a greater lockdown again, I see no reason why we can't go back to slowly introducing fans.

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[H18 SFR]

I see Jason Leitch has come and denied having no fans is not a political decision. I'm sorry, but if the advice is that you can open up some business but not others, then surely the choosing of which do and don't get chosen is a political one? Yes, based on risk, but the test events were deemed a great success, so, unless we're going back to a greater lockdown again, I see no reason why we can't go back to slowly introducing fans.

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Jason Leitch is a ****ing slaver who is loving the limelight being on him.

[Moulin Yarns]

Jason Leitch is a ****ing slaver who is loving the limelight being on him.

Just as well you haven't heard what he called you. 🙄

[MartinfaePorty]

Jason Leitch is a ****ing slaver who is loving the limelight being on him.Not sure I entirely agree with that, but I certainly think there is going to be much more scrutiny on why football can't have fans when other areas of society are opening up: cinemas, for example, where you are indoors.

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[weecounty hibby]

Jason Leitch is a ****ing slaver who is loving the limelight being on him.

Alternatively he is a medical expert who has been thrown into the public eye due to a global crisis. I doubt any if us would have heard of him otherwise.

[H18 SFR]

Not sure I entirely agree with that, but I certainly think there is going to be much more scrutiny on why football can't have fans when other areas of society are opening up: cinemas, for example, where you are indoors.

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You could be sat indoors right now in any Vue Cinema in Scotland watching the EPL.

[MartinfaePorty]

I've been generally supportive of the Scottish Government policy, but if we're supposed to be following the scientific advice, then how come it looks like we are going to end up as one of the few countries in Europe where you can't watch football live?

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[CMurdoch]

Good discussion over the last 50 minutes with Doncaster/ Mike Mulraney about getting fans into grounds

Michael Stewart was very good when the above 2 finished speaking. A very good communicator, Willie Millar on the other hand was not the brightest. Great player but poor thinker and communicator.

The SPFL could do worse than employ Stewart to go into bat for them with the Scotish government with a view to getting supporters back into grounds.

[Alfred E Newman]

Alternatively he is a medical expert who has been thrown into the public eye due to a global crisis. I doubt any if us would have heard of him otherwise.

I think he is actually a dentist to trade. I don’t know if that makes him a medical expert or not.

[James Stephen]

I think he is actually a dentist to trade. I don’t know if that makes him a medical expert or not.

I think he is a dentist and a maxilo-facial(?) surgeon.

Its safe to say he is a medical expert.

[weecounty hibby]

I think he is actually a dentist to trade. I don’t know if that makes him a medical expert or not.

Perhaps you should look a bit further I to it then. I don't want to get into it too much here as it's probably for the Holy Ground. But calling him a dentist is downplaying his background hugely

[green day]

I've been generally supportive of the Scottish Government policy, but if we're supposed to be following the scientific advice, then how come it looks like we are going to end up as one of the few countries in Europe where you can't watch football live?

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Is this actually true? Or are we simply taking more time about starting it?

And..........given the current upsurge in cases across Europe.............will fans at grounds (and the associated travel and socialising issues) last?

Finally there is the issue of cost - if we are allowed back in small numbers.....say 25% capacity? Is that 5000 of our ST holders? How much will this cost the club for zero additional income??

[Mr Grieves]

Is this actually true? Or are we simply taking more time about starting it?

And..........given the current upsurge in cases across Europe.............will fans at grounds (and the associated travel and socialising issues) last?

Finally there is the issue of cost - if we are allowed back in small numbers.....say 25% capacity? Is that 5000 of our ST holders? How much will this cost the club for zero additional income??

This is what's happening in the major European leagues regarding number of fans allowed in stadia -

France - 1000 fans (recently reduced from 5000 due to surge in cases)

Germany - depends on federal state rules, some clubs 0, some potentially 20% of capacity but I don't think anyone's come close to that.

Italy - 1000

Spain - 0

England - 0

Portugal - 0 but I think they're having a test run in the upcoming internationals

[CentreLine]

It is understandable that people are clamouring for fans back in stadiums but it frustrates me that, supposedly informed people in the media, don’t get that the problem here is people getting to and from and in and out of those stadiums. I’d love to get back to my seat but fully understand the need for caution.

[The 90+2]

It is understandable that people are clamouring for fans back in stadiums but it frustrates me that, supposedly informed people in the media, don’t get that the problem here is people getting to and from and in and out of those stadiums. I’d love to get back to my seat but fully understand the need for caution.

While true would it be less people than are kicking about at 10pm?

I was on Leith Walk last night at ten, the streets packed of people coming out places buses also packed and even the Tesco was heaving and that’s every night.

[hibbysam]

McCann and Gordon still going on about Hamilton’s first penalty saying that McGinn should have been red carded - is there anyone who can get through to these utter rockets and point out that there is a little thing called the Laws of the Game which means that this incident could only have been a yellow card, or is it just as normal, worst case scenario must apply just because it’s Hibs, total uninformed, ignorant roasters !!

Whether inside or outside the box is irrelevant in this case. He made no attempt to play the ball and wiped the man out. The only thing that could save him from being sent off was a covering defender or the referee believing Rocky gets to the ball first. Thankfully the referee got it wrong and only booked him, but before slating McCann it’s probably wise to understand the rule yourself first.

[wookie70]

Whether inside or outside the box is irrelevant in this case. He made no attempt to play the ball and wiped the man out. The only thing that could save him from being sent off was a covering defender or the referee believing Rocky gets to the ball first. Thankfully the referee got it wrong and only booked him, but before slating McCann it’s probably wise to understand the rule yourself first.

I agree it is probably a sending off but I think McGinn actually stumbles and then the collision takes place. It would have been harsh imo and the fact it was a pen makes it an easy cop out for the ref.

[hibbysam]

I agree it is probably a sending off but I think McGinn actually stumbles and then the collision takes place. It would have been harsh imo and the fact it was a pen makes it an easy cop out for the ref.

I get that but the rule doesn’t state accidental or non accidental, it clearly states a player will only be saved if he makes a genuine attempt for the ball and there’s no way you could say that for McGinn. After the booking I was actually laughing at him complaining about it being out the box when that would almost certainly have resulted in a red card.

[FilipinoHibs]

While true would it be less people than are kicking about at 10pm?

I was on Leith Walk last night at ten, the streets packed of people coming out places buses also packed and even the Tesco was heaving and that’s every night.

10pm is a disaster and going to lead to more infections. Better go for an 8pm curfew. We have to make sacrifices to get this under control and be less selfish. Works well in the Philippines where people show some solidarity and community responsibility. "We Heal As One"

[erin go bragh]

It is understandable that people are clamouring for fans back in stadiums but it frustrates me that, supposedly informed people in the media, don’t get that the problem here is people getting to and from and in and out of those stadiums. I’d love to get back to my seat but fully understand the need for caution.

But people can travel on buses and trains to go to pubs and restaurants.
But not to open air stadiums. 😉

[CentreLine]

But people can travel on buses and trains to go to pubs and restaurants.
But not to open air stadiums. 😉

Sadly that’s the “whataboutery” response, hence the 😉but all too many people rely on those arguments instead of accepting that some
compromises have to be accepted in order to keep the economy going. Itv has to stop somewhere.

[Bostonhibby]

Mccann is a stupid ****.

This is the actual rule that people paid to commentate might want to read up on............


Players who commit a foul to deny a goalscoring opportunity will no longer automatically be sent off, football's rule-making body has confirmed.


The previous 'triple-punishment' rule required a red card - and therefore a suspension - as well as the award of a penalty under those circumstances.


However, players committing accidental fouls that deny a goalscoring chance will now be cautioned instead.


But deliberate fouls will still incur a red card.Another one in the failed manager with Hearts connection graveyard that is Sportsound. Jumping up and down saying look at me, best ignored

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[Brizo]

Sadly that’s the “whataboutery” response, hence the 😉but all too many people rely on those arguments instead of accepting that some
compromises have to be accepted in order to keep the economy going. Itv has to stop somewhere.

Much as I dislike disagreeing with a poster called EGB :wink: I totally agree with CentreLine.

Its the whataboutery mentality that leads to people selfishly self justifying their own breaches of guidance be it house parties. mask wearing or social distancing.

The guidance is far from consistent and anomalies abound but too may people use that as a convenient excuse to do whatever they want.

[J-C]

Jason Leitch is a ****ing slaver who is loving the limelight being on him.

An extremely highly educated health official, who's doing his job very well.

[heretoday]

The Scottish football media are execrable. Even if they knew what they were talking about they couldn't express it articulately!

After Bob Crampsey the whole thing went pear-shaped.

[hhibs]

Sadly that’s the “whataboutery” response, hence the 😉but all too many people rely on those arguments instead of accepting that some
compromises have to be accepted in order to keep the economy going. Itv has to stop somewhere.



Totally agree.

People can be incredibly short sighted,selfish and, plain ignorant

Pandemic what Pandemic ?

[hhibs]

Much as I dislike disagreeing with a poster called EGB :wink: I totally agree with CentreLine.

Its the whataboutery mentality that leads to people selfishly self justifying their own breaches of guidance be it house parties. mask wearing or social distancing.

The guidance is far from consistent and anomalies abound but too may people use that as a convenient excuse to do whatever they want.


:top marks

[18Craig75]

Much as I dislike disagreeing with a poster called EGB :wink: I totally agree with CentreLine.

Its the whataboutery mentality that leads to people selfishly self justifying their own breaches of guidance be it house parties. mask wearing or social distancing.

The guidance is far from consistent and anomalies abound but too may people use that as a convenient excuse to do whatever they want.

And it’s those same people that are also the most vocal about things not getting any better!

[brog]

Sadly that’s the “whataboutery” response, hence the 😉but all too many people rely on those arguments instead of accepting that some
compromises have to be accepted in order to keep the economy going. Itv has to stop somewhere.

I don't see that as 'whataboutery' it's more that it's illogical. (I should say I'm in London so not specifically referring to Scotland.) I can remember the police calling off a pre Xmas game at ER because driving conditions were difficult. Meanwhile Princes St was mobbed with out of town shoppers! Thats not dissimilar to the current situation.

[hibbyfraelibby]

I don't see that as 'whataboutery' it's more that it's illogical. (I should say I'm in London so not specifically referring to Scotland.) I can remember the police calling off a pre Xmas game at ER because driving conditions were difficult. Meanwhile Princes St was mobbed with out of town shoppers! Thats not dissimilar to the current situation.

The Police have bever called a game off at ER. They do not abd never have had the powers to do so.

[brog]

The Police have bever called a game off at ER. They do not abd never have had the powers to do so.

They have ways of making it happen. IIRC The police stated driving conditions were too difficult & advised game(s) to be called off. I believe Hibs were not happy with this but police then said they wouldn't have resources to steward the game & we had to comply. There were several occasions in 60s/70s when games were called off because authorities deemed driving conditions to be difficult but shops, cinemas etc all remained open.

[delbert]

An extremely highly educated health official, who's doing his job very well.

Who argued against the lockdown and other measures until he got the top job with the big bucks and then fell into line, surprise that !

[ancient hibee]

Who argued against the lockdown and other measures until he got the top job with the big bucks and then fell into line, surprise that !
As he was in the same job then as now a wee bit illogical comment I think.

[weecounty hibby]

Who argued against the lockdown and other measures until he got the top job with the big bucks and then fell into line, surprise that !

He has had that job since 2007 I think

[hhibs]

Who argued against the lockdown and other measures until he got the top job with the big bucks and then fell into line, surprise that !



Maybe time to stop digging ?

[OsloHibs]

While true would it be less people than are kicking about at 10pm?

I was on Leith Walk last night at ten, the streets packed of people coming out places buses also packed and even the Tesco was heaving and that’s every night.

The reason that it works so well in a majority of Scandinavia countries is not that some stayed open, it's the fact we abide by the laws. You simply wouldn't get such stupidity here.

[RitchieHibs]

The reason that it works so well in a majority of Scandinavia countries is not that some stayed open, it's the fact we abide by the laws. You simply wouldn't get such stupidity here.

:top marks

I was reading up on how Scandinavian countries have dealt with the virus. The compliance by the populace has been extremely beneficial. Its really not much to ask of folk here to wear face coverings and maintain at least a meter distance from others. The countries with populace that displays the optimum cautionary measures will in all likelihood decrease positive covid cases.

[RitchieHibs]

An extremely highly educated health official, who's doing his job very well.

Agreed.

Jason Leitch has done a very good job of relaying information to the public. A very reassuring presence and good voice for it.

[hibbysam]

:top marks

I was reading up on how Scandinavian countries have dealt with the virus. The compliance by the populace has been extremely beneficial. Its really not much to ask of folk here to wear face coverings and maintain at least a meter distance from others. The countries with populace that displays the optimum cautionary measures will in all likelihood decrease positive covid cases.

Do you see many without face masks? Genuine question as every shop I’ve been in nearly everyone wears a mask. Now in boozers and restaurants everyone wears them on entry etc. The compliance is fairly high yet we still see huge rises in the infection. To blame the population is both lazy and cheap IMO.

[RitchieHibs]

Do you see many without face masks? Genuine question as every shop I’ve been in nearly everyone wears a mask. Now in boozers and restaurants everyone wears them on entry etc. The compliance is fairly high yet we still see huge rises in the infection. To blame the population is both lazy and cheap IMO.

I do tend to see a lot of people especially in supermarkets without masks or not wearing them properly. The Scandanavians have been rightly praised for their compliance. The Police here have been kept very busy breaking up house parties breaking the rules, illegal raves ect. A poster on here earlier today saying Livingston Center was rammed with little social distancing, masks worn under chins. I'm not blaming the majority who do comply its the idiots who don't.

[CockneyRebel]

I do tend to see a lot of people especially in supermarkets without masks or not wearing them properly. The Scandanavians have been rightly praised for their compliance. The Police here have been kept very busy breaking up house parties breaking the rules, illegal raves ect. A poster on here earlier today saying Livingston Center was rammed with little social distancing, masks worn under chins. I'm not blaming the majority who do comply its the idiots who don't.


You only need a low percentage of non-compliance to negate the efforts of the many. It is these selfish/ignorant a-holes who are prolonging the strict measures we are asked to take. I don't need to come on here for information about how my fellow citizens are undermining any initiatives. In the EH11 area, where I walk every day for my exercise, i see people without masks in the supermarkets, corner shops and on the buses. I spend more time walking in the road than I do on the pavement as very few folk observe social distancing especially the ever present pavement cyclists. The virus by it'self is a bugger to combat without the added help it is given by the "I'll take my chances/it won't happen to me/I can't be arsed/nobody tells me what to do" brigade.

I may be a grumpy old fart but I know what I see and I despair.

[tamig]

You only need a low percentage of non-compliance to negate the efforts of the many. It is these selfish/ignorant a-holes who are prolonging the strict measures we are asked to take. I don't need to come on here for information about how my fellow citizens are undermining any initiatives. In the EH11 area, where I walk every day for my exercise, i see people without masks in the supermarkets, corner shops and on the buses. I spend more time walking in the road than I do on the pavement as very few folk observe social distancing especially the ever present pavement cyclists. The virus by it'self is a bugger to combat without the added help it is given by the "I'll take my chances/it won't happen to me/I can't be arsed/nobody tells me what to do" brigade.

I may be a grumpy old fart but I know what I see and I despair.

Agreed. I go to the shops every day and while the majority appear to be wearing masks there are quite a few who don’t. I also see buses going by with folk not wearing any kind of face covering. Thats just reckless imo.

[green day]

Agreed. I go to the shops every day and while the majority appear to be wearing masks there are quite a few who don’t. I also see buses going by with folk not wearing any kind of face covering. Thats just reckless imo.

These will be the same people complaining if they dont get a vaccine on the day its released :thumbsup:

[H18 SFR]

Agreed.

Jason Leitch has done a very good job of relaying information to the public. A very reassuring presence and good voice for it.

Thank goodness he has a good voice.

[tamig]

These will be the same people complaining if they dont get a vaccine on the day its released :thumbsup:

Exactly. Phannies.

[oldbutdim]

I do tend to see a lot of people especially in supermarkets without masks or not wearing them properly. The Scandanavians have been rightly praised for their compliance. The Police here have been kept very busy breaking up house parties breaking the rules, illegal raves ect. A poster on here earlier today saying Livingston Center was rammed with little social distancing, masks worn under chins. I'm not blaming the majority who do comply its the idiots who don't.

Livingston Asda is a ‘mare.
No social distancing at all, although other supermarkets locally aren’t too much better.
I’ve noticed that the many folk who are exempt from wearing masks all seem to wear trackies, talk very loudly, and stare around aggressively. Asthma must do that to you.

[The 90+2]

Livingston Asda is a ‘mare.
No social distancing at all, although other supermarkets locally aren’t too much better.
I’ve noticed that the many folk who are exempt from wearing masks all seem to wear trackies, talk very loudly, and stare around aggressively. Asthma must do that to you.

Tesco Leith Walk last night had loads of students smashed not wearing face masks.

[RitchieHibs]

Livingston Asda is a ‘mare.
No social distancing at all, although other supermarkets locally aren’t too much better.
I’ve noticed that the many folk who are exempt from wearing masks all seem to wear trackies, talk very loudly, and stare around aggressively. Asthma must do that to you.

I've noticed a few of them going around. Casually strolling about no problem, normally with a similarly aggressive female who shouts loudly that 'He's Exempt', while said trackie lad stares menacingly.

[FilipinoHibs]

I've noticed a few of them going around. Casually strolling about no problem, normally with a similarly aggressive female who shouts loudly that 'He's Exempt', while said trackie lad stares menacingly.

Philippines population 110 million. Very poor densely populated capital city of 25 million.

Supermarkets - you can shop three days a week based on a rota - need a card from your ward (Barangay). Security checks your card, temperature on entering the store. You must wear a mask and shield over the mask to get entry. You sign in and then your hands are sanitized. You must be over 21 and under 60 to gain entry. You will be asked for ID if you look borderline. Everybody complies. There are police and army on standby if there are any confrontations. Everybody complies. Total deaths are 5500 for the Philippines.

"We heal as one".

[SHODAN]

Fully expecting diatribes tonight from English, Levein, Naismith et al about how a win for Hearts tomorrow would be justice for poor wee Budge against the corrupt SFA and especially big bad Leeann Dempster who had the audacity to - gasp - lay off staff AND sign players (even though everyone else including Hearts did the same thing).

Maybe I'm being too cynical, maybe they'll give us Hibs representation too in the form of Paul Hartley.

[monarch]

Fully expecting diatribes tonight from English, Levein, Naismith et al about how a win for Hearts tomorrow would be justice for poor wee Budge against the corrupt SFA and especially big bad Leeann Dempster who had the audacity to - gasp - lay off staff AND sign players (even though everyone else including Hearts did the same thing).

Maybe I'm being too cynical, maybe they'll give us Hibs representation too in the form of Paul Hartley.

Not cynical enough Dicionius. Hartley sounding off in today’s Scotsman about a Hearts win (sorry can’t Copy).
Biggest memory of him at ER is the time when warming up as a sub he ran onto the pitch to kick the ball when the game was still in play. Got booked, should have received sine die :greengrin

[PatHead]

Not cynical enough Dicionius. Hartley sounding off in today’s Scotsman about a Hearts win (sorry can’t Copy).
Biggest memory of him at ER is the time when warming up as a sub he ran onto the pitch to kick the ball when the game was still in play. Got booked, should have received sine die :greengrin

My big memory of him is when he was substituted when Hearts were 1-0 up at Tiny. Took ages to leave the park milking the applause from 3 stands. He hadn't even sat down and we equalised going on to win 2-1.
Hate that scruffy git. Always looks like he needs a wash.

[Rumble de Thump]

Off The Ball has got a very special guest on today.

[Billy Whizz]

Off The Ball has got a very special guest on today.

He must be raking it in, in appearance fees

[H18 SFR]

I see Shelly Kerr is on the BBC coverage tonight. Hope she’s having a few a lunch to make it interesting.

[CMurdoch]

He must be raking it in, in appearance fees

He has been very good today.
Admitted he doesn't like Michael Stewart and explained why?

[Moulin Yarns]

I hear Levein is on off the ball. 4-6-0 according to him was a flexible 4-6 and was a success because they got a draw 🙄

[stoneyburn hibs]

Craig Levein making an absolute plum of himself on Off the ball.

Stated that he wants Rangers to win the league, tore into Michael Stewart and unbelievably defending his 4-6-0.

And his undying love for Anne.

[supermcginn]

I hear Levein is on off the ball. 4-6-0 according to him was a flexible 4-6 and was a success because they got a draw 🙄

Scotland lost 1- 0.

[weecounty hibby]

I hear Levein is on off the ball. 4-6-0 according to him was a flexible 4-6 and was a success because they got a draw 🙄

His 4-6-0 was a ****ing disaster against the worst Czech Republic side in living memory. We lost 1-0 and his plan for a draw was up in the air. Moron and I hope someone in the show reminded him of that. Although I doubt it as I suspect it'll be the usual Jambo live in. Biggest loser ever

[penihibs]

I see Shelly Kerr is on the BBC coverage tonight. Hope she’s having a few a lunch to make it interesting.

Sure she's a staunch Jambo!

[Rumble de Thump]

He started off the show by explaining that the anger of Hearts fans is legitimate because of the unjust and unfair treatment of Hearts :greengrin Then I switched off.

[Col2]

I think I heard this right but they have Craig Thomson ex referee total cheat and Alan Preston on Sportsound right now.

They don’t even hide it do they?

[green day]

So, Levein on OTB, Craig Thomson is doing the ref stuff, and Shelley Kerr on the programme later..............

Balance :rolleyes:

[Col2]

Now Jon Daly!!! Derek Ferguson talking about his Hearts days. This is brilliant!

[penihibs]

So, Levein on OTB, Craig Thomson is doing the ref stuff, and Shelley Kerr on the programme later..............

Balance :rolleyes:
Derek Ferguson now another X Jambo😳

[green day]

So, Levein on OTB, Craig Thomson is doing the ref stuff, and Shelley Kerr on the programme later..............

Balance :rolleyes:


Now Jon Daly!!! This is brilliant!


Derek Ferguson now another X Jambo😳

And Alan Preston

I am switching off. The BBC are a ****ing disgrace.

[Billy Whizz]

Now Jon Daly!!! This is brilliant!

He’s got himself a new job as Jonatan Johansson’s assistant at TPS in Finland

[Aldo]

I think I heard this right but they have Craig Thomson ex referee total cheat and Alan Preston on Sportsound right now.

They don’t even hide it do they?

The biased and love in is unreal.

Glad I don’t listen anymore as I’m sure my wireless would have been launched.


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[BILLYHIBS]

Michael Stewart on Premier Sports later on

A Jambo but a good Jambo

[Real Emerald]

The biased and love in is unreal.

Glad I don’t listen anymore as I’m sure my wireless would have been launched.


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It’ll be all the sweeter when we gub them. 👍🇳🇬GGTTH

[Aldo]

Michael Stewart on Premier Sports later on

A Jambo but a good Jambo

I don’t mind Stewart tbh.

Says it how it is!


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[Rumble de Thump]

One of the annoying things about the bias on Sportsound, Off The Ball etc is how they all just laugh it off when they get called out on it.

[penihibs]

And Alan Preston

I am switching off. The BBC are a ****ing disgrace.

Yeah I'm out.

[The Harp]

I think I heard this right but they have Craig Thomson ex referee total cheat and Alan Preston on Sportsound right now.

They don’t even hide it do they?

Between Off the Ball and Sportsound, we have Levein, Preston, Derek Ferguson, with Craig Thomson waiting to give us his unbiased opinion. And no one of a Hibs persuasion. Just the usual balance from the BBC. At least (hopefully) no Tom English so far.

[JimBHibees]

Sure she's a staunch Jambo!

Think Rangers fan

[Lago]

I don’t mind Stewart tbh.

Says it how it is!


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I like his punditry

[Col2]

Think Rangers fan

She looks like a Rangers fan.

[cabbageandribs1875]

as soon as they said on off the ball that LeVain was this weeks guest i turned the radio OFF, listen every week and have been switching off as soon as it finishes since sportsound morphed in to a bbc heartz podcast several months ago, today was the first i've not listened to OTB for a long long time.

[JimBHibees]

She looks like a Rangers fan.

Pretty sure she is

[cabbageandribs1875]

At least (hopefully) no Tom English so far.


i think he will be doing the wales v scotland rugby today

[Moulin Yarns]

Between Off the Ball and Sportsound, we have Levein, Preston, Derek Ferguson, with Craig Thomson waiting to give us his unbiased opinion. And no one of a Hibs persuasion. Just the usual balance from the BBC. At least (hopefully) no Tom English so far.

Has nobody sussed the reason yet?



Ex Hibs players have proper jobs.:wink:

[Sammy7nil]

Between Off the Ball and Sportsound, we have Levein, Preston, Derek Ferguson, with Craig Thomson waiting to give us his unbiased opinion. And no one of a Hibs persuasion. Just the usual balance from the BBC. At least (hopefully) no Tom English so far.

TBF Off the ball did read this out

Hi Tam and Stuart can you confirm it is now compulsory to have a a former Hearts employee on every BBC sports show? Great to hear Craig wax lyrical about 5-1 and Natural Order. 🤔 Sam in Edinburgh yes I am Hibs fan.

[SHODAN]

Think Rangers fan

Before the 2013 final v Celtic she was asked on Talksport who she wanted to win and said neither because she was a Hearts fan. I thought that was pretty pathetic coming from someone who at the time had recently managed Hibs.

[stoneyburn hibs]

Pretty sure she is

100% Jambo

[tamig]

She looks like a Rangers fan.

Rough as old boots. Fits the mould perfectly.

[CMurdoch]

Craig Levein making an absolute plum of himself on Off the ball.

Stated that he wants Rangers to win the league, tore into Michael Stewart and unbelievably defending his 4-6-0.

And his undying love for Anne.

I thought he was good on OTB today.
I agree with him about the 10 in a row keek. He said he is sick of hearing about 10 in a row so wants Rangers to win the league to put an end to it. Fair enough for me.
Re Stewart he was asked do you not like each other and why. He answered it rather than avoiding it.
His talk about Budge was fair enough as well.
He went on to say Hearts were wrong to sack him so he is of course still deluded and a fud :thumbsup:

[tamig]

Before the 2013 final v Celtic she was asked on Talksport who she wanted to win and said neither because she was a Hearts fan. I thought that was pretty pathetic coming from someone who at the time had recently managed Hibs.

I heard that and the response was they’d had a few Hibs minded folk on lately so that was fine. Didn’t scratch the surface of the point of the question though.

[hhibs]

I heard that and the response was they’d had a few Hibs minded folk on lately so that was fine. Didn’t scratch the surface of the point of the question though.


Yes,really poor and quite defensive in a dismissive way, no sense of awareness or they are indeed part of the problem.

[CMurdoch]

Open all mikes have just gone to Derek Ferguson after a disallowed goal in the Dunde match.
He starts to describe it and says the linesman has lifted his fag
Cue loads of laughing and Ferguson saying he doesn't advocate smoking.

[H18 SFR]

The BBC Scotland coverage is awesome today, Micheal Stewart’s mic not working earlier, now Shelly Kerr’s not working.

So sloppy.

[heretoday]

I thought he was good on OTB today.
I agree with him about the 10 in a row keek. He said he is sick of hearing about 10 in a row so wants Rangers to win the league to put an end to it. Fair enough for me.
Re Stewart he was asked do you not like each other and why. He answered it rather than avoiding it.
His talk about Budge was fair enough as well.
He went on to say Hearts were wrong to sack him so he is of course still deluded and a fud :thumbsup:

I don't mind Craig Levein. I realise this puts me in a minority! He's got quite a dry sense of humour. He's better than most of the erses on Sportsound.

[Jim44]

Shelley Kerr looks like Cliff Richard with a grey wig.

[Jones28]

Willie Miller is a ****ing ********. Revelling not only in Aberdeen winning, but in us getting beat.

[tamig]

Willie Miller is a ****ing ********. Revelling not only in Aberdeen winning, but in us getting beat.

I turned it on after the game and heard him and thought he was very fair with his comments. Not sure what you heard him say that got you all excited?

[gaz1875]

I turned it on after the game and heard him and thought he was very fair with his comments. Not sure what you heard him say that got you all excited?

He said we should have had a penalty and free kick with possibly a red card.

[Jones28]

I thought he was a prick, funny that. Opinions eh?

[tamig]

He said we should have had a penalty and free kick with possibly a red card.

Indeed. Which doesn’t really tie in with the other poster’s view.

[O'Rourke3]

He said we should have had a penalty and free kick with possibly a red card.
Not during the game he didn't- he only agreed after he'd been presented with more evidence. Radio commentator said Pen, Willie wasn't sure, even after the guy back at BBC said - looks like a pen - he still wasn't going for it.

[where'stheslope]

Not during the game he didn't- he only agreed after he'd been presented with more evidence. Radio commentator said Pen, Willie wasn't sure, even after the guy back at BBC said - looks like a pen - he still wasn't going for it.
That's why refs don't always give pens, they only see it once in real time!!!!

[Jones28]

I know it seems very trivial and doesn’t really matter but why is there no representation of Hibernian on sportsound or sport scene? I think Bartley was on a couple of times when he played for us but other than that and Tam McManus who seems to have disappeared is there really no other ex Hibs players interested in representing Hibs on the national broadcaster?

Off the top of my head Celtic have Bonner who gets paid to follow his team around the country regardless of who they’re playing: rangers and hearts have numerous ex players; Aberdeen have Miller and I think Tyrone Smith is an Aberdeen fan, as is Sutherland; and there’s a smattering of others who represent the rest.

[Frazerbob]

I know it seems very trivial and doesn’t really matter but why is there no representation of Hibernian on sportsound or sport scene? I think Bartley was on a couple of times when he played for us but other than that and Tam McManus who seems to have disappeared is there really no other ex Hibs players interested in representing Hibs on the national broadcaster?

Off the top of my head Celtic have Bonner who gets paid to follow his team around the country regardless of who they’re playing: rangers and hearts have numerous ex players; Aberdeen have Miller and I think Tyrone Smith is an Aberdeen fan, as is Sutherland; and there’s a smattering of others who represent the rest.

Tam does PLZ Football Show every week and Hibs TV. PLZ also has Roughy. Live at 4pm every day on You Tube then available as podcast.

[Jones28]

Tam does PLZ Football Show every week and Hibs TV. PLZ also has Roughy. Live at 4pm every day on You Tube then available as podcast.

I'll that a go, cheers FB :aok:

[FilipinoHibs]

This is my tweet that was read out on Off The Ball last saturday when Tam and Stuart asked for suggestions for a new name for Sportsound.

[stoneyburn hibs]

This is my tweet that was read out on Off The Ball last saturday when Tam and Stuart asked for suggestions for a new name for Sportsound.

I heard that being read out on Saturday, well done.
Definitely had to be said.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Tom English making a tit of himself again. His loathing and distain for Doncaster is obvious for all to hear. And yet another hearts person on...

[Col2]

Tom English making a tit of himself again. His loathing and distain for Doncaster is obvious for all to hear. And yet another hearts person on...

It was cringe again. His personal hatred comes through in pathetic digs against Doncaster. I thought Cormack was excellent had a direct dig at Tom and Richard to start asking the Govt the questions.

Tom English really is the prick’s prick.

[Radium]

It was cringe again. His personal hatred comes through in pathetic digs against Doncaster. I thought Cormack was excellent had a direct dig at Tom and Richard to start asking the Govt the questions.

Tom English really is the prick’s prick.

Neither Doncaster nor Cormack in anyway acknowledged the leeway given to football which was poor.

Cormack is starting his season ticket run for next season and if he was more honest and made that his pitch I could probably warm to it.

Doncaster is an administrator that you don’t want during a crisis. He is one dimensional with his only line being about armageddons. Trying to pitch additional covid funding is crass and I would suggest that they have completely misread the SG approach if he thinks that saying that England is doing it better.

Cormack had to dig him out when he was challenged about the number of areas without fans in England and then had to backtrack when it was pointed out that his glowing report on Scottish football’s compliance is juxtaposed with the breaches that have occurred and enquiries that are ongoing.

My opinion is that they should be looking for a stadium by stadium approach at levels 0 & 1. Any further flexibility at level 2 should be given to wet pubs so that they can open.


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[Peevemor]

I think Doncaster dealt with the early end to last season as well as he could have.

[Radium]

I think Doncaster dealt with the early end to last season as well as he could have.

He is a lawyer who is a competent administrator. Given a set of rules to follow he is in his element.

Give him a fluid situation that needs him to bring people together and build support and you find out that is not his skill set.


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[Peevemor]

He is a lawyer who is a competent administrator. Given a set of rules to follow he is in his element.

Give him a fluid situation that needs him to bring people together and build support and you find out that is not his skill set.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkTo be honest I haven't followed his career in any great detail, but you said that "he's an administrator that you don't want in a crisis". I think we can say that what happened to last season was a crisis and he dealt with it very well, as confirmed by the courts of the land.

[Radium]

To be honest I haven't followed his career in any great detail, but you said that "he's an administrator that you don't want in a crisis". I think we can say that what happened to last season was a crisis and he dealt with it very well, as confirmed by the courts of the land.

Fair comment. He correctly applied company law in a fraught situation. The pressure was high but he, like the rest of the SPFL hierarchy played a long quiet game and were right.

I stand by the one dimensional comment. A one trick admin pony, not an innovator, not a negotiator and not the right person to be CEO of the league.

10 years ago I had little knowledge of how a CEO influences an organisation. Then Rod hired a good one.


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[Not In The Know]

So I tuned in tonight to see if they were going to be previewing this weekend semis.
Nah a ****in Jambo on talking pish.

[Kato]

So I tuned in tonight to see if they were going to be previewing this weekend semis.
Nah a ****in Jambo on talking pish.Was he talking pish about Neil Lennon?

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Neither Doncaster nor Cormack in anyway acknowledged the leeway given to football which was poor.

Cormack is starting his season ticket run for next season and if he was more honest and made that his pitch I could probably warm to it.

Doncaster is an administrator that you don’t want during a crisis. He is one dimensional with his only line being about armageddons. Trying to pitch additional covid funding is crass and I would suggest that they have completely misread the SG approach if he thinks that saying that England is doing it better.

Cormack had to dig him out when he was challenged about the number of areas without fans in England and then had to backtrack when it was pointed out that his glowing report on Scottish football’s compliance is juxtaposed with the breaches that have occurred and enquiries that are ongoing.

My opinion is that they should be looking for a stadium by stadium approach at levels 0 & 1. Any further flexibility at level 2 should be given to wet pubs so that they can open.


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Cormack and Doncaster both been very quiet of late since they were giving it tight to the SG, pushing to allow fans back in....just as well the SG ignored them, both of them went on and on about "follow the science, follow the science, look at england,look at england" blah blah blah pair o roasters

[hibbysam]

Cormack and Doncaster both been very quiet of late since they were giving it tight to the SG, pushing to allow fans back in....just as well the SG ignored them, both of them went on and on about "follow the science, follow the science, look at england,look at england" blah blah blah pair o roasters

Having fans in months ago would have made zero difference to the numbers now.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Having fans in months ago would have made zero difference to the numbers now.


who said anything about now :confused:

[CockneyRebel]

Having fans in months ago would have made zero difference to the numbers now.

Source?

[Peevemor]

Having fans in months ago would have made zero difference to the numbers now.How can you know that?

[007]

So I tuned in tonight to see if they were going to be previewing this weekend semis.
Nah a ****in Jambo on talking pish.

Superscoreboard on Clyde 1 had Gogic on talking about it. Broadcaster from the west doing a better job of covering the League Cup semis than the taxpayer funded national broadcaster and that's with Celtic and Rangers both out of the competition.

[hibbysam]

who said anything about now :confused:

The fact at that point the majority of society was opened up in tier 2. They were correct to campaign for their industry, the same as other industries campaigned for theirs.

[hibbysam]

How can you know that?

A simple look down south, no outbreaks in how many games where thousands attended, not hundreds, and in a country where the virus was far more out of control.

[Peevemor]

A simple look down south, no outbreaks in how many games where thousands attended, not hundreds, and in a country where the virus was far more out of control.How can anyone possibly say that nobody transmitted or caught the virus travelling to/from or during matches, especially with the more virulent strain at large since September?

[04Sauzee]

A simple look down south, no outbreaks in how many games where thousands attended, not hundreds, and in a country where the virus was far more out of control.

Maybe im a bit daft but I'm not getting this?

[green day]

Having fans in months ago would have made zero difference to the numbers now.

Difficult to know where to start with this, but.........

In your imaginary scenario;

Did any of them use public transport?

Did some car share to get to the match?

Did any of them get too close when queuing, entering / exiting the stadium?

Did some of them meet at a mates house for a bevvy?

Did any of them pop into shops for grub on the way to the match?


Because any one of those could have caused someone to transmit the virus.

[hibbysam]

Maybe im a bit daft but I'm not getting this?

Original argument inferring that we shouldn’t have pushed for fans in before the year due to the current predicament we find ourselves in now, even after it happening down south for months and with numbers far higher than we were asking for, and no outbreaks coming from that.

[Peevemor]

Original argument inferring that we shouldn’t have pushed for fans in before the year due to the current predicament we find ourselves in now, even after it happening down south for months and with numbers far higher than we were asking for, and no outbreaks coming from that.I'm lost for words. You were going bananas last week about Celtic, Dubai, Hibs players at risk and protocols, but opening grounds and amassing thousands of people doesn't bother you?

Barking!

[hibbysam]

I'm lost for words. You were going bananas last week about Celtic, Dubai, Hibs players at risk and protocols, but opening grounds and amassing thousands of people doesn't bother you?

Barking!

There’s a massive difference between players travelling to a country during a full lockdown which had a very high level of transmission, with a player who tested positive, in an aeroplane and not having the likelihood of the virus spreading (which it did as per the newest tests), and fans attending an open air stadium while in tier 2. Barking indeed, for someone lost for words you seem to have plenty to say.

[Peevemor]

There’s a massive difference between players travelling to a country during a full lockdown which had a very high level of transmission, with a player who tested positive, in an aeroplane and not having the likelihood of the virus spreading (which it did as per the newest tests), and fans attending an open air stadium while in tier 2. Barking indeed, for someone lost for words you seem to have plenty to say.Astonishing!

[JimBHibees]

A simple look down south, no outbreaks in how many games where thousands attended, not hundreds, and in a country where the virus was far more out of control.

No way of knowing this

[CentreLine]

There’s a massive difference between players travelling to a country during a full lockdown which had a very high level of transmission, with a player who tested positive, in an aeroplane and not having the likelihood of the virus spreading (which it did as per the newest tests), and fans attending an open air stadium while in tier 2. Barking indeed, for someone lost for words you seem to have plenty to say.

Not really. Every part of England has a significant instance of Covid-19. Are you suggesting that travel within that melting pot is less dangerous than travelling to Dubai. There is a very good reason that the principal message from government is “stay at home” whether that is domestically or involving international travel.

[hibbysam]

Not really. Every part of England has a significant instance of Covid-19. Are you suggesting that travel within that melting pot is less dangerous than travelling to Dubai. There is a very good reason that the principal message from government is “stay at home” whether that is domestically or involving international travel.

That’s now, Cormack was banging the drum for fans in October and November when our prevalence was far lower and lots of areas were in tier 2, yet fans were locked out unless in tier 1. Don’t think anyone would argue for fans in stadia now, but the argument that our situation now somehow means the government were right not to allow fans in back then is rather backwards.

[CentreLine]

That’s now, Cormack was banging the drum for fans in October and November when our prevalence was far lower and lots of areas were in tier 2, yet fans were locked out unless in tier 1. Don’t think anyone would argue for fans in stadia now, but the argument that our situation now somehow means the government were right not to allow fans in back then is rather backwards.

I get your point and it has some merit insomuch as it removes the benefit of hindsight for the average Jo on the street. However, the Scottish Government was clearly working to a bigger picture with the benefit of science and predicted consequences. It seems they got that more right than wrong.
I think the real question was about how Cormack and others were banging on demanding fans be let in. The “banging on” bit always came over to me as they would not accept that the government were armed with the best available information and felt it was not wise.
Always a cry for “show us the evidence” but perhaps there is a limit to what people need to know.

[Peevemor]

That’s now, Cormack was banging the drum for fans in October and November when our prevalence was far lower and lots of areas were in tier 2, yet fans were locked out unless in tier 1. Don’t think anyone would argue for fans in stadia now, but the argument that our situation now somehow means the government were right not to allow fans in back then is rather backwards.It's not backward to assume that the situation would probably be worse now had the government permitted mass movement and gathering of people back then, especially when the "British" strain was first starting to spread.

[hibbysam]

It's not backward to assume that the situation would probably be worse now had the government permitted mass movement and gathering of people back then, especially when the "British" strain was first starting to spread.

‘Mass’ is pushing it a bit. There weren’t a lot of clubs that fell into tier 2, and there was pretty much freedom to move wherever at that point within tier 2 regions. There would also only have been a few hundred fans attending. With the pubs and restaurants, cinemas and cafes all open when in that tier, it wasn’t far fetched to say that sports stadia had a shout to be included.

Also we’re in a full lockdown with numbers at their worst since the beginning, it doesn’t really get much worse.

[Peevemor]

‘Mass’ is pushing it a bit. There weren’t a lot of clubs that fell into tier 2, and there was pretty much freedom to move wherever at that point within tier 2 regions. There would also only have been a few hundred fans attending. With the pubs and restaurants, cinemas and cafes all open when in that tier, it wasn’t far fetched to say that sports stadia had a shout to be included.

Also we’re in a full lockdown with numbers at their worst since the beginning, it doesn’t really get much worse.You mentioned thousands down South resulting in zero cases. I don't believe that for a minute.

And yes, things are bad just now, but it could have got a lot worse and sooner.

[tamig]

I'm lost for words. You were going bananas last week about Celtic, Dubai, Hibs players at risk and protocols, but opening grounds and amassing thousands of people doesn't bother you?

Barking!

I’m sure hibbysam is Cormack in disguise. He constantly bangs the getting fans back in drum.

[hibbysam]

I’m sure hibbysam is Cormack in disguise. He constantly bangs the getting fans back in drum.

Must be plenty Dave Cormack’s out there then.

[mjhibby]

Superscoreboard on Clyde 1 had Gogic on talking about it. Broadcaster from the west doing a better job of covering the League Cup semis than the taxpayer funded national broadcaster and that's with Celtic and Rangers both out of the competition.

I’ve been saying for ages the biggest slap in the face for all non on old form fans is superscoreboard,which is there to service the west coast, gives a far better informed show and will cover other teams. What sportsound has become is just awful and sad and bar Michael Stewart just unlistenable.

[Not In The Know]

I’ve been saying for ages the biggest slap in the face for all non on old form fans is superscoreboard,which is there to service the west coast, gives a far better informed show and will cover other teams. What sportsound has become is just awful and sad and bar Michael Stewart just unlistenable.

I think i will give it a go. Its blatant trolling having a show basically dedicated to a Hearts player two days before a national semi final his teams not involved in. It should have been a show about our semi on Thursday and the St Mirrin V Livi one tonight.

[Moulin Yarns]

That’s now, Cormack was banging the drum for fans in October and November when our prevalence was far lower and lots of areas were in tier 2, yet fans were locked out unless in tier 1. Don’t think anyone would argue for fans in stadia now, but the argument that our situation now somehow means the government were right not to allow fans in back then is rather backwards.

I was fortunate enough to live in an area which was in level 2. After 2 weeks it was placed into level 3 and the numbers kept rising approaching Christmas. They are now on the way back down, but this is a predominantly rural area. Imagine how much worse it could have been in a city.

[Jones28]

It's not backward to assume that the situation would probably be worse now had the government permitted mass movement and gathering of people back then, especially when the "British" strain was first starting to spread.

It would be carnage.

Besides, what would be the point in allowing a few hundred fans in the door? It would cost the club money. Surely the majority wouldn't want to attend games if it meant actually costing the club?

[JimBHibees]

I think i will give it a go. Its blatant trolling having a show basically dedicated to a Hearts player two days before a national semi final his teams not involved in. It should have been a show about our semi on Thursday and the St Mirrin V Livi one tonight.

What Hearts player did it cover? Used to listen to that show quite regularly either at the time or on the podcast. Simply cant remember when I last listened to it. The Hearts bias was a joke and must have sickened fans of other teams. Hope it was worth it Tom :aok:

[cabbageandribs1875]

is it possible to get clyde 1 online

[sleeping giant]

is it possible to get clyde 1 online

If its Superscoreboard you are after.....
https://planetradio.co.uk/podcasts/superscoreboard/

[cabbageandribs1875]

If its Superscoreboard you are after.....
https://planetradio.co.uk/podcasts/superscoreboard/

that's the one, muchas gracias :aok:

[Not In The Know]

What Hearts player did it cover? Used to listen to that show quite regularly either at the time or on the podcast. Simply cant remember when I last listened to it. The Hearts bias was a joke and must have sickened fans of other teams. Hope it was worth it Tom :aok:

Naismith love in.

[JimBHibees]

Naismith love in.

Genuinely why? Probably the most obnoxious player in the country but that will be him being a winner gets away with so much up here.

[Not In The Know]

ooft I had a wee shot of that podcast from Thursday. At least on the podcast you can fast forward through the 70 mins of high pitch wedgie Celtic fans on the call in!😂

[hibbyfraelibby]

A simple look down south, no outbreaks in how many games where thousands attended, not hundreds, and in a country where the virus was far more out of control.

You have absolutely no evidence to back up that ridiculous claim...straight out of the Trump play book

[Ringothedog]

You have absolutely no evidence to back up that ridiculous claim...straight out of the Trump play book

By all accounts if you say it often enough it becomes true , regardless of the facts

[hibbysam]

You have absolutely no evidence to back up that ridiculous claim...straight out of the Trump play book

Hardly. If there had been any outbreaks then track and trace would’ve been all over it and it would’ve been front page news. There’s no evidence to back up a ridiculous claim that if we had limited fans in back in October and November then the astronomical numbers would’ve been worse now.

[Peevemor]

Hardly. If there had been any outbreaks then track and trace would’ve been all over it and it would’ve been front page news. There’s no evidence to back up a ridiculous claim that if we had limited fans in back in October and November then the astronomical numbers would’ve been worse now.You said "Having fans in months ago would have made zero difference to the numbers now."

There's only one person making ridiculous claims here.

[hibbysam]

You said "Having fans in months ago would have made zero difference to the numbers now."

There's only one person making ridiculous claims here.

In your opinion.

[Moulin Yarns]

In your opinion.

Mine too. 😉

[CentreLine]

Hardly. If there had been any outbreaks then track and trace would’ve been all over it and it would’ve been front page news. There’s no evidence to back up a ridiculous claim that if we had limited fans in back in October and November then the astronomical numbers would’ve been worse now.

To be fair no media outlet would have been all over it. The media and politicians have been unusually cautious about pointing the finger at any particular group. Instead there has been a general, catch all, reaction to outbreaks.

What has been said though is that “anywhere that people gather together” risks spreading the virus.

[hibbysam]

To be fair no media outlet would have been all over it. The media and politicians have been unusually cautious about pointing the finger at any particular group. Instead there has been a general, catch all, reaction to outbreaks.

What has been said though is that “anywhere that people gather together” risks spreading the virus.

And football stadia with set protocols and guidance with sufficient stewarding and organisation wouldn’t have people gathered together. Anywhere between a few hundred and 1000 in a 20,000 seater stadium would be sufficiently distanced.

[Peevemor]

And football stadia with set protocols and guidance with sufficient stewarding and organisation wouldn’t have people gathered together. Anywhere between a few hundred and 1000 in a 20,000 seater stadium would be sufficiently distanced.I like how you decide the protocols and guidance that work and those that don't.

[Hibeesforever]

I like how you decide the protocols and guidance that work and those that don't.
Clearly it has been political with the government taking a dislike to football. Some fans should have been in the grounds before Christmas...poor government managing the balance between the virus and the economy.

[Peevemor]

Clearly it has been political with the government taking a dislike to football. Some fans should have been in the grounds before Christmas...poor government managing the balance between the virus and the economy.The same as governments throughout the world. Hindsight is great and criticism is easy.

[Jones28]

Clearly it has been political with the government taking a dislike to football. Some fans should have been in the grounds before Christmas...poor government managing the balance between the virus and the economy.

Football...along with the vast majority of sport. Murrayfield had a trial game and lo and behold they haven’t had fans in since. This isn’t some government vendetta against football ffs.

[hibbysam]

I like how you decide the protocols and guidance that work and those that don't.

That’s how opinions work friend. Would be a boring as **** life if we all sat nicely in line and agreed with everything we were fed, whether that be in politics, football teams or any other walk of life, and you’d get shat on time and time again.

[majorhibs]

Reckon I’m backing hibbysam on this one.

[FilipinoHibs]

Reckon I’m backing hibbysam on this one.

Yes he is an expert on infectious diseases. I always turn to him here for advice on the matter.

[18Craig75]

Absolutely pointless referring to the protocols set in England for their 2000/4000 fans. On match of the day there was singing, no social distancing in fact there was hugging and celebrating!

England track and trace is useless so no outbreaks would have been highlighted from individual games. I think it’s a safe assumption that all those large gatherings played a part in the rise of prevalence in England

The went from full lockdown to 4000 fans in games, it was so obviously a dead cat to take attention away from other areas of their ‘handling’ of the crisis.

[Chorley Hibee]

The went from full lockdown to 4000 fans in games, it was so obviously a dead cat to take attention away from other areas of their ‘handling’ of the crisis.

Absolutely agree, it was incredulous that we went from lockdown to 4,000 fans (in some places) in the space of 24 hours.

All whilst a new variant (that they were aware of) was starting to spread.

I've not seen a single person/news outlet question this stupidity either.

[Peevemor]

Absolutely agree, it was incredulous that we went from lockdown to 4,000 fans (in some places) in the space of 24 hours.

All whilst a new variant (that they were aware of) was starting to spread.

I've not seen a single person/news outlet question this stupidity either.Because to do so would be ridiculous apparently.

[Itsnoteasy]

I think i will give it a go. Its blatant trolling having a show basically dedicated to a Hearts player two days before a national semi final his teams not involved in. It should have been a show about our semi on Thursday and the St Mirrin V Livi one tonight.

Unfortunately IMO there isn't enough to talk about for 2 different semi finals on 2 separate nights. I thought they would have covered the semis on the Friday night & they did. Only Jambo in the studio was Mikey Stewart. As always he gave a fair & honest view on both games.

[MartinfaePorty]

Thought we were going to get through today's programme without a mention for their beloved Jambos, but no, a wee mention of some scheme they're doing to buy virtual tickets for the game v ICT. What they didn't mention is that it's being done as a F-U to the rest of Scottish Football, for their 'unfair' relegation! ICT also having been affected by the season being curtailed (and of course they have Robbo as their manager).

[tamig]

Thought we were going to get through today's programme without a mention for their beloved Jambos, but no, a wee mention of some scheme they're doing to buy virtual tickets for the game v ICT. What they didn't mention is that it's being done as a F-U to the rest of Scottish Football, for their 'unfair' relegation! ICT also having been affected by the season being curtailed (and of course they have Robbo as their manager).
Exactly. And painted as a fantastic gesture by the hertz fans in showing their support for the greater good of the Scottish game.

[Radium]

Thought we were going to get through today's programme without a mention for their beloved Jambos, but no, a wee mention of some scheme they're doing to buy virtual tickets for the game v ICT. What they didn't mention is that it's being done as a F-U to the rest of Scottish Football, for their 'unfair' relegation! ICT also having been affected by the season being curtailed (and of course they have Robbo as their manager).

Scott Gardiner, CEO at ICT who blabbed out all the WhatsApp messages live on Sportsound. Just happens to be the former Chief Executive at Hearts who was in charge of building the new stand that’s still not finished.

More of a connection than Robbo


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[Iggy Pope]

Thought we were going to get through today's programme without a mention for their beloved Jambos, but no, a wee mention of some scheme they're doing to buy virtual tickets for the game v ICT. What they didn't mention is that it's being done as a F-U to the rest of Scottish Football, for their 'unfair' relegation! ICT also having been affected by the season being curtailed (and of course they have Robbo as their manager).

Virtual tickets? Is that the same as watching your team on yer telly like just about everyone else on earth is doing?

[Magpie]

Steven Naismith unfortunately on Sportscene tonight.

[Iggy Pope]

Being a horrible **** Naismith actually speaking quite well about Hibs.

[Jim44]

Being a horrible **** Naismith actually speaking quite well about Hibs.

Maybe the tosser is trying to talk his way out of the PBS. Let’s face it, his Messiah role has worn a bit thin and, if they’re seriously thinking about surviving in the big boys’ league, he’s not the one to do the business for them........ Stephen Naismith? ......... nah, Stephen Naechance! :greengrin

[Since452]

Being a horrible **** Naismith actually speaking quite well about Hibs.

Comes across vey well to be honest (yuck)

[Jim44]

Being a horrible **** Naismith actually speaking quite well about Hibs.


Comes across vey well to be honest (yuck)

I think it’s quite openly accepted that, off the pitch, he is actually quite a decent guy, but on the pitch he is the pits.

[hibsbollah]

I think it’s quite openly accepted that, off the pitch, he is actually quite a decent guy, but on the pitch he is the pits.

I remember something about him doing lots of charity work, something in Africa maybes?

[The 90+2]

I remember something about him doing lots of charity work, something in Africa maybes?

He pays for Christmas meals for the homeless in Liverpool and Glasgow every Xmas and takes time out his day to serve them to them too as well as ploughing a lot of money into charities. I think his wife is loaded too and both them do a lot of work for free.

Still a complete bawbag on the pitch mind you.

[Billy Whizz]

Scott Gardiner, CEO at ICT who blabbed out all the WhatsApp messages live on Sportsound. Just happens to be the former Chief Executive at Hearts who was in charge of building the new stand that’s still not finished.

More of a connection than Robbo


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Is the stand not finished yet😂

[Billy Whizz]

Don’t know if this put on here last night?
The BBC have had to apologise to the 1st minister, after Craig Levein said she should resign, for suggesting the old firm Derby should be cancelled

Think he’ll be rested for a bit

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/craig-levein-wants-nicola-sturgeon-20029384.amp

[JimBHibees]

Don’t know if this put on here last night?
The BBC have had to apologise to the 1st minister, after Craig Levein said she should resign, for suggesting the old firm Derby should be cancelled

Think he’ll be rested for a bit

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/craig-levein-wants-nicola-sturgeon-20029384.amp

The irony of course she didn't say it should be cancelled just that it may be if some assurances were not met. Sounds like he was showing his colours there.

[JeMeSouviens]

The irony of course she didn't say it should be cancelled just that it may be if some assurances were not met. Sounds like he was showing his colours there.

These colours?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DViHHYkWsAAC0mR.jpg

[The Green Sea]

These colours?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DViHHYkWsAAC0mR.jpg

What’s Rolf Harris doing at the PBS?

[Kato]

Think he’ll be rested for a bit



Mmm, maybe. Be interesting to see.

[JimBHibees]

These colours?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DViHHYkWsAAC0mR.jpg

Pretty much

[CentreLine]

Aw come on, it was just a bit of a laugh don’cha know

[Moulin Yarns]

With no Celtc or the Rangers playing I wonder how much coverage they will get today 😉


Ross County v Hibs is the commentary

[Billy Whizz]

With no Celtc or the Rangers playing I wonder how much coverage they will get today 😉

Think the Hibs game is the live one

[wallpaperman]

The summariser they have at Dingwall on Open All Mics (footballer, Leanne Crichton) is absolutely dreadful.

Monotone voice, sounds completely bored, and when they went over to her for Hibs second, she sounded completely devastated. :greengrin

[weecounty hibby]

The summariser they have at Dingwall on Open All Mics (footballer, Leanne Crichton) is absolutely dreadful.

Monotone voice, sounds completely bored, and when they went over to her for Hibs second, she sounded completely devastated. :greengrin

She has given Boyle it tight on the BBC live feed. Reckons he should be sent off for diving. Also reckons it wasn't a penalty and Boyle went down very easy with no contact. Is it a necessity to dislike Hibs to get a gig on the BBC?

[Mr Grieves]

The summariser they have at Dingwall on Open All Mics (footballer, Leanne Crichton) is absolutely dreadful.

Monotone voice, sounds completely bored, and when they went over to her for Hibs second, she sounded completely devastated. :greengrin

She's still better than Willie Miller

[BroxburnHibee]

Nice tribute to Alistair Alexander just now.

[Kato]

Currently dismantling Boyle.

[Heisenberg]

Currently dismantling Boyle.

He doesn’t play for Aberdeen or Hearts so can’t say this surprises me.

[weecounty hibby]

Currently dismantling Boyle.
Total hatchet job. Guaranteed ban from compliance officer now that these prices are pushing for it

[weecounty hibby]

Now Hughes has said Boyle dives twice. **** off.

[A Hi-Bee]

She's still better than Willie Miller

that is a sweeper statement!!!

:cb Not sure just who is the bigger ****

[Kato]

Yogi joins in the pile-on.

[weecounty hibby]

Yogi is a ****ing ******, there I've said it. Just said Beaton needs to be better especially when you consider who he was refereeing. Get the ****. Thats three times he has called Boyle a cheat.

[Onion]

Currently dismantling Boyle.

Have to offload their disappointment in someone.

[Heisenberg]

Definitely a bit of a narrative building towards Boyle being a known and consistent cheat. Not helpful coverage and I’m sure it’ll stick when it’s not warranted in the slightest.

[gaz1875]

The defender went through the back of Boyle, any other part of the pitch is a foul.

[Kato]

They finished the section on the Hibs game by agreeing that Boyle should have been booked for the pen incident and red carded for another "dive" afterwards.

[The Harp]

Total character assassination on Boyle by Sportsound, with Pat Bonnar joining in. Strange we rarely get such analysis when it comes to certain other clubs.

[Fergos]

Oh the irony....Boyler usually and frequently gets kicked to bits with very little protection....

Great win.

GGTTH

[Hibees1973]

Those great football thinkers of our time, Bonner, wee Doddsy & Crichton ripping into Boyle.

I have a warm glow listening to them. :wink:

[Kato]

Those great football thinkers of our time, Bonner, wee Doddsy & Crichton ripping into Boyle.

I have a warm glow listening to them. :wink:

It's like a Punch and Judy show, weird and predictable.


Used to find it baffling and annoying but it's just a laughable these days.

[bringbackbenny]

Total character assassination on Boyle by Sportsound, with Pat Bonnar joining in. Strange we rarely get such analysis when it comes to certain other clubs.

Surprised Bonnar even knows who Boyle is after taking off his beloved Celtic blinkers

[Aldo]

Yogi is a ****ing ******, there I've said it. Just said Beaton needs to be better especially when you consider who he was refereeing. Get the ****. Thats three times he has called Boyle a cheat.

Get yourself tae ****

The bitterness and seethe for us seems constant from that mob.

Luckily I’m not in charge as they wouldn’t be welcomed at ER!

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[The Captain....]

I read a while back that Boyle is the most fouled player in the league. Hardly surprising he anticipates contact when the hammer throwers like Aberdeen etc target him with tag team fouling game after game.

I dont seem to remember the Sportsound ****s being so bold either when its Celtic or Rangers players winning penalties..

Richard gordon has turned into a right greetin' auld wimmin in his dotage...constantly whining and whingeing.

[Alex Trager]

Anyone any idea what Hibs have done to Willie Miller?

He was rattled pre match.

Chick Young said he enjoyed watching Hibs a lot more than the sheep this season and Miller was all 'Chick must enjoy watching losing football then'

Shut it, sheepy

[Aldo]

Anyone any idea what Hibs have done to Willie Miller?

He was rattled pre match.

Chick Young said he enjoyed watching Hibs a lot more than the sheep this season and Miller was all 'Chick must enjoy watching losing football then'

Shut it, sheepy

Gordon, Miller, Craigen the whole Sportsound mob seem to dislike when we win and by all accounts they are looking to discredit everything and anything we do.

GIRFRY ya moaning faced ****ers


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[04Sauzee]

Get it round the lot of them.
As they say on oneleagueback... Pleasing

[The Captain....]

You'd be struggling to find a Scottish football fan who doesnt think Sportsound needs a massive shakeup. The likes of Gordon, Willie Miller, Chick Young, Preston etc churn out the same sub standard coverage week after week with very little in the way of insight or entertainment. Its a cosy old pals club with cliche ridden analysis and the same corny jokes shoehorned in every week.

Id get rid of the lot of them apart from Michael Stewart (i dont always agree with what he says but at least some thought goes into his opnion) and try and bring the show kicking and screaming up to date. Its 20 to 30 years out of date.

[weecounty hibby]

Its the first time I've listened to it in ages and it was a total hatchet job on Hibs from start to finish. The character assassination of Boyle after the game was a disgrace. Yogi as well, called him a cheat three times. I won't be tuning in again anytime soon

[Jones28]

Oh my heart bleeds for the poor ****ers on sportsound who can’t stand the idea of Hibs doing well.

**** off the sheep****ger contingent.

**** off Pat Bonner, the gibbering moron who can barely get the words out when Celtic are playing. Literally a paid up Celtic specialist who follows his team around for **** all.

**** off Craigen. Achieved **** all in football apart from being the captain of a ***** Motherwell team.

[brythehibby]

The defender went through the back of Boyle, any other part of the pitch is a foul.

Like the foul that Beaton booked Gogic for inside 10 minutes. Like others say he doesn’t play for hearts or Aberdeen so they have to dig into him

[Sir David Gray]

I'll be honest and say that I don't think it was a penalty.

Do I care? Absolutely not.

[CentreLine]

I thought the Gogic booking was unjustified
Thought the booking Boyle got was a mystery
Thought the penalty was soft but a penalty
Thought the next time he went down was a dive and he should have been booked for it

[Fritz]

Certainly not sticking up for Sportsound, it’s well past its sell-by date and they do seem to favour some clubs more than others...🤔

But Boyle bought the penalty and dived later on when on a booking.

[007]

They don't have any ex-Hibs panelists, it's Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, Hearts or other teams so that makes us a nice easy target for them.

They can't go after Celtic or Rangers because God forbid if they upset either of them and because they want to suck up to Rangers so the BBC can get back into Ibrox, we are the next best target after Celtic, to get themselves in the Rangers' fans' good books.

As for those Aberdeen numpties, they are the masters at cheating. If they're not pushing, pulling, kicking and niggling at the opponent, they're falling over looking for fouls because the only way they're likely to score is from a set-piece.

[ancient hibee]

They don't have any ex-Hibs panelists, it's Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, Hearts or other teams so that makes us a nice easy target for them.

They can't go after Celtic or Rangers because God forbid if they upset either of them and because they want to suck up to Rangers so the BBC can get back into Ibrox, we are the next best target after Celtic, to get themselves in the Rangers' fans' good books.

As for those Aberdeen numpties, they are the masters at cheating. If they're not pushing, pulling, kicking and niggling at the opponent, they're falling over looking for fouls because the only way they're likely to score is from a set-piece.

Think it’s pretty well known that the BBC has refused to go to Ibrox until Rangers lift their ban on a journalist.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

They don't have any ex-Hibs panelists, it's Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, Hearts or other teams so that makes us a nice easy target for them.

They can't go after Celtic or Rangers because God forbid if they upset either of them and because they want to suck up to Rangers so the BBC can get back into Ibrox, we are the next best target after Celtic, to get themselves in the Rangers' fans' good books.

As for those Aberdeen numpties, they are the masters at cheating. If they're not pushing, pulling, kicking and niggling at the opponent, they're falling over looking for fouls because the only way they're likely to score is from a set-piece.

I don't recall them greetin about Aberdeen getting soft penalties the last few seasons either.

[gaz1875]

Like the foul that Beaton booked Gogic for inside 10 minutes. Like others say he doesn’t play for hearts or Aberdeen so they have to dig into him

That was hardly even a foul never mind a booking, then a few minutes after the County player does a karate kick and not even a foul!!

[smack]

Certainly not sticking up for Sportsound, it’s well past its sell-by date and they do seem to favour some clubs more than others...[emoji848]

But Boyle bought the penalty and dived later on when on a booking.

Boyle slipped when he went down in the box when on a booking


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[allmodcons]

Boyle slipped when he went down in the box when on a booking


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Very poor critique of Martin Boyle on Sportsound tonight.

[givescotlandfreedom]

Glad the sheep botherers are greeting again.
Mind Gordon had a weird one man campaign mocking Malonga for apparently being rotten when we were in the championship. Never replied to my tweet after he skinned half their team in the league cup tie and slotted it home.

[Tully]

Who gives a flying **** 3 points in the bag , who cares what sportsound,sportscene at big billy blow hard Hughes says, we won we,re 6 points clear bring on livi

[Key West]

Boyle would have a wee laugh to himself at the critics, he’s the most fouled player in the league, how dare he has pace, ability and a penchant for scoring goals and worst of all not playing for The Rangers or Celtic.

[Killiehibbie]

Anyone any idea what Hibs have done to Willie Miller?

He was rattled pre match.

Chick Young said he enjoyed watching Hibs a lot more than the sheep this season and Miller was all 'Chick must enjoy watching losing football then'

Shut it, sheepy

1000's of absent Aberdeen fans can't be bothered watching crap football. That was before lockdown when they were finishing 2nd or 3rd. Maybe they're like Miller and see 2nd a 1st loser.

[lord bunberry]

I’m struggling to see where people are coming from saying it was a soft penalty. The county player comes through the back of Boyle and makes no contact with the ball. I watch the premiership games and they’re analysing to see if there’s minute contact. The county player barged into the back of Boyle, stonewall penalty.

[PatHead]

I’m struggling to see where people are coming from saying it was a soft penalty. The county player comes through the back of Boyle and makes no contact with the ball. I watch the premiership games and they’re analysing to see if there’s minute contact. The county player barged into the back of Boyle, stonewall penalty.

Not sure about stonewall but certainly a strong claim. If Sevtic player goes down it would be a definite. If it's good enough for them, good enough for us.