New manager thread

[Heckys Wheel]

Guys can we cut out the nonsense and petty digs please? Some of us rely on these threads for our information and don't want to wade through pages of drivel to find it

If you rely on any thread on here for information, you’re in trouble pal 😉

[One Day Soon]

Well done, you've joined the ever growing number of roasters on my ignore list :rolleyes:


To be fair, I thought the My_Wife_Colquhoun bit was quite funny.

[tamig]

Too late to be saying anything, Hibs have lost control of the situation, once they allowed Appleton to be seen as the favourite in the press, the PR department should have become quietly involved. As I said silence is not always golden.

How have Hibs lost control of anything? What are you expecting from the club? “The club continue with the process of appointing a new Head Coach and hope to be able to make an announcement shortly.” Like we don’t know this anyway? What else do you expect from them?

[SquashedFrogg]

Guys can we cut out the nonsense and petty digs please? Some of us rely on these threads for our information and don't want to wade through pages of drivel to find it

To be fair. If you are relying on information from this thread then you're in trouble.

[My_Wife_Camille]

If you rely on any thread on here for information, you’re in trouble pal 😉
Yes you're right. Sadly this place is a shadow of what it used to be. I remember when you could come on here and engage in reasonable debate and discussion but nowadays it's just petty digs, trolls and attention seekers. A shame really. I think I'll stick to the PM board from now on.

[Speedway]

Yes you're right. Sadly this place is a shadow of what it used to be. I remember when you could come on here and engage in reasonable debate and discussion but nowadays it's just petty digs, trolls and attention seekers. A shame really. I think I'll stick to the PM board from now on.

That’s what the pm Board is for.

[Wee Effen Bee]

Too late to be saying anything, Hibs have lost control of the situation, once they allowed Appleton to be seen as the favourite in the press, the PR department should have become quietly involved. As I said silence is not always golden.

Please tell us why it’s Hibs’ fault! How the fk can Hibs be held accountable for the MSM and the bookies instilling a candidate as the favourite? I’m sick of the papers attacking Hibs without foundation - why am I reading the same guff on here?

[Dalianwanda]

:top marks
Please tell us why it’s Hibs’ fault! How the fk can Hibs be held accountable for the MSM and the bookies instilling a candidate as the favourite? I’m sick of the papers attacking Hibs without foundation - why am I reading the same guff on here?

[FilipinoHibs]

And that’s a bit that I don’t get. Kenny’s In there now. I thought we’d be on a charm offensive with him directing the way.

No responsible employer would announce a new senior appointment until it is a done deal. Our professionalism irks the media and some needy fans.

[Speedway]

No responsible employer would announce a new senior appointment until it is a done deal. Our professionalism irks the media and some needy fans.

No need to announce, just inform with discretion.

Day:

1. Over 100 applications received
2. Club delighted with quality of applicant
3. Club drawing up shortlist
4. Club beginning interviews
5. Interviews continue
6. CEO really impressed with interviews so far
7. Club beginning to create preferred candidates list
8. Second round of interviews begin
9. Caretaker looks forward to new mancoming in
10. Appointment to be made in next 7 days

It’s not difficult is it.

[mcfly]

Everyone can look their own way at this and have their views but it does seem
Baffling how quickly betting markets change the odds on a manager.

Some papers report Appleton announced in 24/48 hrs
Others say talks broken down.

Whatever happpens we won’t look great in this and if Appleton is our main target and we lose him then we end up with second or third best.

Have to wait and see but the whole managerial
thing this past wee while is baffling for plain old season ticket holders like me.

[jacomo]

How have Hibs lost control of anything? What are you expecting from the club? “The club continue with the process of appointing a new Head Coach and hope to be able to make an announcement shortly.” Like we don’t know this anyway? What else do you expect from them?


Hibs have mismanaged this ‘story’ ever since Lenny was suspended and arguably for a long while before then.

The actual management of the situation - ie finding the right head coach - is obviously a lot more important. But perception does matter.

[Stuart93]

Everyone can look their own way at this and have their views but it does seem
Baffling how quickly betting markets change the odds on a manager.

Some papers report Appleton announced in 24/48 hrs
Others say talks broken down.

Whatever happpens we won’t look great in this and if Appleton is our main target and we lose him then we end up with second or third best.

Have to wait and see but the whole managerial
thing this past wee while is baffling for plain old season ticket holders like me.

Leaning towards this view

[Speedway]

Still time for McCarthy then?

https://goo.gl/images/tPK8X2

[sean04]

Amateur hour!!!! Potential missing out on the 2 top choices. Picked Appleton over heckingbottom and now Appleton has turned us down, heckingbottom won't want tit now knowing we wanted someone else. Eddie and grant better get comfy in the hot seat. Comedy roadshow strikes again.embarrasing

[Heisenberg]

Amateur hour!!!! Potential missing out on the 2 top choices. Picked Appleton over heckingbottom and now Appleton has turned us down, heckingbottom won't want tit now knowing we wanted someone else. Eddie and grant better get comfy in the hot seat. Comedy roadshow strikes again.embarrasing

Appleton could’ve been making ridiculous contract demands for all you know. If he isn’t going to be the new manager then I’m pretty sure we’ll never properly find out what caused the talks to breakdown.

[Speedway]

Amateur hour!!!! Potential missing out on the 2 top choices. Picked Appleton over heckingbottom and now Appleton has turned us down, heckingbottom won't want tit now knowing we wanted someone else. Eddie and grant better get comfy in the hot seat. Comedy roadshow strikes again.embarrasing

Shambles! Conspiracy! Disaster! Disgrace! Embarrassment! Etc

[Peevemor]

Amateur hour!!!! Potential missing out on the 2 top choices. Picked Appleton over heckingbottom and now Appleton has turned us down, heckingbottom won't want tit now knowing we wanted someone else. Eddie and grant better get comfy in the hot seat. Comedy roadshow strikes again.embarrasing

No. What's embarassing is the ridiculous over-reaction on here to pure speculation.

As has been posted before, only a handful of people will know what's going on.

[sean04]

Appleton could’ve been making ridiculous contract demands for all you know. If he isn’t going to be the new manager then I’m pretty sure we’ll never properly find out what caused the talks to breakdown.

Or the board haven't matches his ambition or plans. For reports to he will be announced in 48hours to him walking away something has seriously went wrong. Main contract will have been agreed and they would've been tying up the loose ends, bonuses, budget etc

[Winston Ingram]

Is it just me or the media having a field day at our expense? **** ‘em all. When we’re reay to announce something we’ll let you know.
End of nessage.

The phannies in our support are having a field day that's for sure

[Rumble de Thump]

Everyone can look their own way at this and have their views but it does seem
Baffling how quickly betting markets change the odds on a manager.

Some papers report Appleton announced in 24/48 hrs
Others say talks broken down.

Whatever happpens we won’t look great in this and if Appleton is our main target and we lose him then we end up with second or third best.

Have to wait and see but the whole managerial
thing this past wee while is baffling for plain old season ticket holders like me.

Fortunately, Hibs haven't said who any of their targets are so we'll be fine.

[Dalianwanda]

No. What's embarassing is the ridiculous over-reaction on here to pure speculation.

As has been popsted before, only a handful of people will know what's going on.

this

[AgentDaleCooper]

To quote the thick of it, this thread/forum is like a catherine wheel that's fell off it's stick and is still going, but not in the right way.

[Heisenberg]

Or the board haven't matches his ambition or plans. For reports to he will be announced in 48hours to him walking away something has seriously went wrong. Main contract will have been agreed and they would've been tying up the loose ends, bonuses, budget etc

So basically, it’s all speculation and no one really has a clue why the talks have broken down (if that’s even correct). I have no idea why folk are so desperate to bash the club when they don’t actually know if they’ve done anything wrong.

[GloryGlory]

Or the board haven't matches his ambition or plans. For reports to he will be announced in 48hours to him walking away something has seriously went wrong. Main contract will have been agreed and they would've been tying up the loose ends, bonuses, budget etc

I don't think Kylian Mbappe and Cristiano Ronaldo would come here anyway! :greengrin

[Lago]

No need to announce, just inform with discretion.

Day:

1. Over 100 applications received
2. Club delighted with quality of applicant
3. Club drawing up shortlist
4. Club beginning interviews
5. Interviews continue
6. CEO really impressed with interviews so far
7. Club beginning to create preferred candidates list
8. Second round of interviews begin
9. Caretaker looks forward to new mancoming in
10. Appointment to be made in next 7 days

It’s not difficult is it.
No it's not. :top marks

[Tobias Funke]

To quote the thick of it, this thread/forum is like a catherine wheel that's fell off it's stick and is still going, but not in the right way.

How dare you. Have you any idea of the amount of pressure that has been exerted on our skulls, huh? It feels like our brains have been emptied into little packets, into crisp packets. Cheese and onion ******* crisp packets, that contain our living, breathing, ******* brain!

:wink:

[Winston Ingram]

Or the board haven't matches his ambition or plans. For reports to he will be announced in 48hours to him walking away something has seriously went wrong. Main contract will have been agreed and they would've been tying up the loose ends, bonuses, budget etc

This p!sh is spouted out at every turn at the moment. Why is this a thing? In last 2 summer windows and this one we've back them massively yet it gets spouted out like it's fact?

The Sun broke that there was a contractual issue this morning and that's the only info we have on this.

That could be anything. He may want to spend a certain number of days a week down south. He may want a exit clause that we're not happy with. He may want a cut of outgoing transfer fees.

....but nut, out comes the standard 'we've refused to back him'.

[HibeesLittleHel]

Hibs have mismanaged this ‘story’ ever since Lenny was suspended and arguably for a long while before then.

The actual management of the situation - ie finding the right head coach - is obviously a lot more important. But perception does matter.

Don’t agree

[mcfly]

To quote the thick of it, this thread/forum is like a catherine wheel that's fell off it's stick and is still going, but not in the right way.

😂😂

[HibbySpurs]

Sorry I’m no big on the board love in that some fans have but having scanned the last couple of pages can I assume people are losing the place because bookmakers can’t decide who Hibs will give it to?

What’s that got to do with the board? I’m sure or at least hope the club are closing in on who is in their opinion the best man for the job and best suited to working within the constraints of Hibs as a business.

Wasn’t Steve Clarke 1/4 and then it was given to Calderwoid (think it was Calderwood).

Long odds on shots do get beat in all sports, just peruse horse racing results to see many 1/2 shots getting turned over.

[sean04]

Bill Young from rocksport radio has an insight. It was him who broke the news about talks stalling last night. Tweeted something along the lines off managers shouldn't expect to carry the can for decisions they don't make and should expect a fair amount of transfer funds from player sales, also that he should have control over transfers in and out of the club

[Devonhibs]

If there is s contractual issue, could it not be related to his Leicester situation as I read he is still being paid by them? Trying to agree that concluding before signing for us?

[AgentDaleCooper]

How dare you. Have you any idea of the amount of pressure that has been exerted on our skulls, huh? It feels like our brains have been emptied into little packets, into crisp packets. Cheese and onion ******* crisp packets, that contain our living, breathing, ******* brain!

:wink:

ssssssssssmokey bacon!?

[son of haggart]

Bill Young from rocksport radio has an insight. It was him who broke the news about talks stalling last night. Tweeted something along the lines off managers shouldn't expect to carry the can for decisions they don't make and should expect a fair amount of transfer funds from player sales, also that he should have control over transfers in and out of the club

Sounds like the old Head Coach/DOF who's in charge of the transfer kitty and decisions argument which always sounds easier in theory than it seems to be practically

[ahibby]

This is the newish Hibs official way. You release word of a signing, then make out there's a difficulty to tease everyone and get them anxious, then announce the signing and everyone is relieved and for some reason happier than they would have been if there hadn't been a reported problem. (breathe) Psychology at work. Big teases.

[sean04]

Sounds like the old Head Coach/DOF who's in charge of the transfer kitty and decisions argument which always sounds easier in theory than it seems to be practically

Doesn't sound good, ovb I don't know how clued up this guy is but he was 1st to break the news about contract hitting a snag so must know some1 involved with hibs or Appleton. Really hope this isn't true about board deciding on transfers etc

[GloryGlory]

Bill Young from rocksport radio has an insight. It was him who broke the news about talks stalling last night. Tweeted something along the lines off managers shouldn't expect to carry the can for decisions they don't make and should expect a fair amount of transfer funds from player sales, also that he should have control over transfers in and out of the club

Hibs made it clear from the outset that there is a structure in place at the club and the Head Coach is expected to be part of that structure and have input but will not be in total control of it.

So I'm guessing Appleton may want total control of transfers and Hibs are saying no, work in the structure - put forward your ideas re targets, etc, but the overall picture is managed by the football recruitment department.

[Heisenberg]

Bill Young from rocksport radio has an insight. It was him who broke the news about talks stalling last night. Tweeted something along the lines off managers shouldn't expect to carry the can for decisions they don't make and should expect a fair amount of transfer funds from player sales, also that he should have control over transfers in and out of the club

He’s said

“If he isn't joining the club it only highlights what I have been saying about manager's shouldn't be willing to carry the can for decisions others make. The manager should have absolute control of team selection and transfer ins and outs. He should also expect funds from sales.”

There’s absolutely no chance Neil Lennon would allow someone else to control team selection or transfers in/out without his say so. I don’t think we’d be trying to force that kind of set up on a new manager either. The recruitment team will go and find the head coach players and give him a list but he can make the decisions himself surely.

[CapitalGreen]

Bill Young from rocksport radio has an insight. It was him who broke the news about talks stalling last night. Tweeted something along the lines off managers shouldn't expect to carry the can for decisions they don't make and should expect a fair amount of transfer funds from player sales, also that he should have control over transfers in and out of the club

Where did he break the news about talks stalling last night? Nowhere I can see?

[ahibby]

Doesn't sound good, ovb I don't know how clued up this guy is but he was 1st to break the news about contract hitting a snag so must know some1 involved with hibs or Appleton. Really hope this isn't true about board deciding on transfers etc

I'm pretty sure that the manager states the positions to be filled and types of players and the recruitment team look in to the best they can get for the budget who meet the managers specification. Sounds alright to me and anyway they are called first team coach at Hibs, are they not? It's better than John Collins report in which he says he was asked for named preferences 1 to 5 and always ended up with 3rd or 4th choice, that shouldn't make a manager happy either.

[J-C]

Hibs made it clear from the outset that there is a structure in place at the club and the Head Coach is expected to be part of that structure and have input but will not be in total control of it.

So I'm guessing Appleton may want total control of transfers and Hibs are saying no, work in the structure - put forward your ideas re targets, etc, but the overall picture is managed by the football recruitment department.


One of the things Lennon didn't grasp on a few occasions, stepped on a few toes forgetting he was just a head coach and not the full blown manager.

[Brightside]

Hibs made it clear from the outset that there is a structure in place at the club and the Head Coach is expected to be part of that structure and have input but will not be in total control of it.

So I'm guessing Appleton may want total control of transfers and Hibs are saying no, work in the structure - put forward your ideas re targets, etc, but the overall picture is managed by the football recruitment department.

Appleton would never get that at the majority of clubs.

[Real Emerald]

Hibs made it clear from the outset that there is a structure in place at the club and the Head Coach is expected to be part of that structure and have input but will not be in total control of it.

So I'm guessing Appleton may want total control of transfers and Hibs are saying no, work in the structure - put forward your ideas re targets, etc, but the overall picture is managed by the football recruitment department.

Yes, that's what I think. The only problem is that if the structure is not performing we can sack as many managers as we like and the route cause remains untouched. I'm not for one minute suggesting that to be the case but it has to be a concern. How can a new man get his changes in place if he has to work within a structure he can't control?

[SquashedFrogg]

Amateur hour!!!! Potential missing out on the 2 top choices. Picked Appleton over heckingbottom and now Appleton has turned us down, heckingbottom won't want tit now knowing we wanted someone else. Eddie and grant better get comfy in the hot seat. Comedy roadshow strikes again.embarrasing

You don't actually know any of this, do you?

[ahibby]

One of the things Lennon didn't grasp on a few occasions, stepped on a few toes forgetting he was just a head coach and not the full blown manager.

Yes Hibs have put a lot in to building their infrastructure and accompanying procedures. I doubt they'd let any new appointee mess with that much if at all.

[sean04]

I'm pretty sure that the manager states the positions to be filled and types of players and the recruitment team look in to the best they can get for the budget who meet the managers specification. Sounds alright to me and anyway they are called first team coach at Hibs, are they not? It's better than John Collins report in which he says he was asked for named preferences 1 to 5 and always ended up with 3rd or 4th choice, that shouldn't make a manager happy either.

I'm sure Collins had a A, B and C list of the players he wanted and we ended up with players on the C list 😂😂

[HoboHarry]

Astonishing how many people know the details of the negotiations, are they having the meetings at the EICC given the number of people involved?

[ahibby]

I'm sure Collins had a A, B and C list of the players he wanted and we ended up with players on the C list 😂😂

Appreciated.

[sean04]

Appreciated.

Sure he wanted Russell Anderson, Steven Naismith, jamie smith?(Aberdeen lad) can't mind the other names

[ahibby]

Yes, that's what I think. The only problem is that if the structure is not performing we can sack as many managers as we like and the route cause remains untouched. I'm not for one minute suggesting that to be the case but it has to be a concern. How can a new man get his changes in place if he has to work within a structure he can't control?

I think this is part of the problem NL had. He didn't get as much out of the players (ultimately and recently), as the board expected him to. There has been at least one comment referring to the new man getting more out of the current players because they are decent enough. However, it wasn't a clear hint that NL was underperforming, but we saw what we saw.

[bingo70]

I don’t know the ins and outs of what’s happened so can’t be too critical of the board but I don’t think they’ve handled the narrative in the media very well.

If the media were getting ahead of themselves talking about imminent appointments then there’s ways hibs could temper that by leaking the actual facts to other journalists. Seems to me we just sit back and let the media and rumours gather momentum, that’s not always the best plan.

[SquashedFrogg]

Astonishing how many people know the details of the negotiations, are they having the meetings at the EICC given the number of people involved?

People just making stuff up as per.

"I've heard", "My understanding is", "From what I'm hearing ..."

Quite sad really.

[J-C]

Sure he wanted Russell Anderson, Steven Naismith, jamie smith?(Aberdeen lad) can't mind the other names


Was it not suggested on here that Lennon wanted Bryson and Hooper etc, maybe 1st choices are just too extreme for Hibs to achieve given our wage structure

[GloryGlory]

Yes, that's what I think. The only problem is that if the structure is not performing we can sack as many managers as we like and the route cause remains untouched. I'm not for one minute suggesting that to be the case but it has to be a concern. How can a new man get his changes in place if he has to work within a structure he can't control?

The sort of structure Hibs have has been commonplace in Europe for donkeys.

I would imagine the idea that a manager could control everything from transfers and contract negotiations, scouting, coaching and picking the team is old fashioned anyway, given the much more complex nature of football now, especially re transfers and contracts and the use of agents, legal advisers, financial advisers by players.

And I would have thought George Craig would be part of the interviewing team (in fact I'm sure I read he is) and so the structure and responsibilities of each member of the football department, including Head Coach, will have been fully explained at the interview. So really it shouldn't have come as a surprise to any potential new Head Coach at a late stage in negotiations.

[Stevie Reid]

Sky now running with the stalled chat as well:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11792/11635405/hibernians-talks-with-michael-appleton-stall-over-contract

Talks between Hibernian and Michael Appleton over the manager's position have stalled over terms in the proposed contract.

[ahibby]

The sort of structure Hibs have has been commonplace in Europe for donkeys.

I would imagine the idea that a manager could control everyting from transfers and contract negotiations, scouting, coaching and picking the team is old fashioned anyway, given the much more complex nature of football now, especially re transfers and contracts and the use of agents, legal advisers, financial advisers by players.

And I would have thought George Craig would be part of the interviewing team (in fact I'm sure I read he is) and so the structure and responsibilities of each member of the football department, including Head Coach, will have been fully explained at the interview. So really it shouldn't have come as a surprise to any potential new Head Coach at a late stage in negotiations.

Well said!

[SteveHFC]

Sky now running with the stalled chat as well:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11792/11635405/hibernians-talks-with-michael-appleton-stall-over-contract

Talks between Hibernian and Michael Appleton over the manager's position have stalled over terms in the proposed contract.

Ah well this is like when Calderwood was appointed.

[Beefster]

I’ve just put a wedge on Jimmy Calderwood.

[GloryGlory]

I’ve just put a wedge on Jimmy Calderwood.

Is he not very ill with dementia, poor soul?

[BlackSheep]

Is he not very ill with dementia, poor soul?

Perfect fit i would say!










(i know i'll draw pelters for that, apologies)

[Beefster]

Is he not very ill with dementia, poor soul?

Didn’t know that. Guess who feels like a prick now?!

[sean04]

Was it not suggested on here that Lennon wanted Bryson and Hooper etc, maybe 1st choices are just too extreme for Hibs to achieve given our wage structure

Sometimes it's worth breaking the wage barrier for players. Sauzee and Latapy for example. Hearts have got Naismith who's on huge money at Norwich. Prob playing 8k a week for him

[GloryGlory]

Perfect fit i would say!










(i know i'll draw pelters for that, apologies)
You picked your user name well, didn't you?

[J-C]

The sort of structure Hibs have has been commonplace in Europe for donkeys.

I would imagine the idea that a manager could control everything from transfers and contract negotiations, scouting, coaching and picking the team is old fashioned anyway, given the much more complex nature of football now, especially re transfers and contracts and the use of agents, legal advisers, financial advisers by players.

And I would have thought George Craig would be part of the interviewing team (in fact I'm sure I read he is) and so the structure and responsibilities of each member of the football department, including Head Coach, will have been fully explained at the interview. So really it shouldn't have come as a surprise to any potential new Head Coach at a late stage in negotiations.

In her latest interview Leeann stated that the head coach has the final say as to who comes into the squad, rubbishing the rumours that Lennon was frustrated with transfer dealings, the head coach will work closely with DOF and from there a list of players will be put together, it's then up to Leeann and Craig to get the deal done, all depending if the players they talk to want to come to us remember.

[SquashedFrogg]

Sometimes it's worth breaking the wage barrier for players. Sauzee and Latapy for example. Hearts have got Naismith who's on huge money at Norwich. Prob playing 8k a week for him

Sky TV money.

I'm still bemused at some peoples absolute fascination with what Hearts do.

[J-C]

Sometimes it's worth breaking the wage barrier for players. Sauzee and Latapy for example. Hearts have got Naismith who's on huge money at Norwich. Prob playing 8k a week for him


How much do you reckon these 2 players would be on and how much would we have to pay to get them. AFIK one of Hearts rich benefactors is stumping up some of Naismiths wages, well as I've been told anyway.

[BlackSheep]

You picked your user name well, didn't you?

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[sean04]

Sky TV money.

I'm still bemused at some peoples absolute fascination with what Hearts do.

It was just an example, if you want quality, you go and pay for it. its worth bending the wage budget if a player is going to make a big difference

[ahibby]

In her latest interview Leeann stated that the head coach has the final say as to who comes into the squad, rubbishing the rumours that Lennon was frustrated with transfer dealings, the head coach will work closely with DOF and from there a list of players will be put together, it's then up to Leeann and Craig to get the deal done, all depending if the players they talk to want to come to us remember.

Yes you are right she did say that. I chose to read between the lines and took it that she meant, look this is the best we can afford for you are you happy with him i.e. can you work with him? There'd be no point in bringing in someone that the coach wouldn't want to work with, but it's not the same as identifying a particular player in the first place, which is what I think someone was hinting at being the snag.

[J-C]

It was just an example, if you want quality, you go and pay for it. its worth bending the wage budget if a player is going to make a big difference

We did that with Stokes, Efe, Milligan, Flo

[sean04]

How much do you reckon these 2 players would be on and how much would we have to pay to get them. AFIK one of Hearts rich benefactors is stumping up some of Naismiths wages, well as I've been told anyway.

Prob 5/6k a week? Rough guess. Did come when we were in the championship

[sean04]

We did that with Stokes, Efe, Milligan, Flo

Aye 3 out of the 4 have been pretty good signings. Efe was 1 of the best players I've seen at Easter road. Stokes was capable of brilliance in case you have forgot about our day in May. Big flo has the potential to move on for money. Mulligan isn't a bad player, think he's just caught out with the pace of the game

[Real Emerald]

The sort of structure Hibs have has been commonplace in Europe for donkeys.

I would imagine the idea that a manager could control everything from transfers and contract negotiations, scouting, coaching and picking the team is old fashioned anyway, given the much more complex nature of football now, especially re transfers and contracts and the use of agents, legal advisers, financial advisers by players.

And I would have thought George Craig would be part of the interviewing team (in fact I'm sure I read he is) and so the structure and responsibilities of each member of the football department, including Head Coach, will have been fully explained at the interview. So really it shouldn't have come as a surprise to any potential new Head Coach at a late stage in negotiations.

I'm not saying the idea of a structure like that is wrong or unusual and I'm not saying ours isn't working. All I'm saying is that if the structure behind the head coach isn't performing it won't matter how many managers we or any other team try. It's merely an observation on a set structure and not a dig at Hibs. And yes, he would have been told that's how we work so it would hardly seem a good reason for talks to break down at this stage.

[J-C]

Yes you are right she did say that. I chose to read between the lines and took it that she meant, look this is the best we can afford for you are you happy with him i.e. can you work with him? There'd be no point in bringing in someone that the coach wouldn't want to work with, but it's not the same as identifying a particular player in the first place, which is what I think someone was hinting at being the snag.


The snag occurs when we want our top targets but don't have back up ones in case they don't get them, Allan last summer was a perfect example, we ended up with a short term loan in Hyndman instead, I wonder who else we may have had lined up or did we fully expect Allan to happen. Others like Stokes, McLaren etc are top targets which don't work out, look at loads of top clubs up and down the country, building a top squad especially with a reduced budget can be really hard and that's when you see how good your head coach is. We were lucky with Stubbs as he had a real eye for a players and a top coach in Doolan.

[GloryGlory]

I'm not saying the idea of a structure like that is wrong or unusual and I'm not saying ours isn't working. All I'm saying is that if the structure behind the head coach isn't performing it won't matter how many managers we or any other team try. It's merely an observation on a set structure and not a dig at Hibs. And yes, he would have been told that's how we work so it would hardly seem a good reason for talks to break down at this stage.

OK.

But if something isn't working behind the scenes, we have the option of changing personnel without it changing the basic structure, assuming the business strategy is built on working in a certain way.. You can always tweak the structure, as well. Ultimately, you can also change the business strategy, too, although that tends to be a longer term project. Indeed in a dynamic world, changing the strategy is necessary for survival!

[Real Emerald]

OK.

But if something isn't working behind the scenes, we have the option of changing personnel without it changing the basic structure, assuming the business strategy is built on working in a certain way.. You can always tweak the structure, as well. Ultimately, you can also change the business strategy, too, although that tends to be a longer term project. Indeed in a dynamic world, changing the strategy is necessary for survival!

I agree, if the people within the structure are not performing then you would expect them to be replaced, and there was a veiled mention that a new manager would get more out our current players. You would have to assume from that the club have full confidence in our structure and in their opinion the manager was at fault. So fingers crossed they get the next one right :thumbsup:

[ian cruise]

Doesn't sound good, ovb I don't know how clued up this guy is but he was 1st to break the news about contract hitting a snag so must know some1 involved with hibs or Appleton. Really hope this isn't true about board deciding on transfers etc


“If he isn't joining the club it only highlights what I have been saying about manager's shouldn't be willing to carry the can for decisions others make. The manager should have absolute control of team selection and transfer ins and outs. He should also expect funds from sales.”

The "If" at the start which you conveniently missed of changes it from opinion to fact. In truth he's broken no news and is just as informed as everyone else on here. It's all hyperbole.

[IanM]

Darrell Currie saying talks have broken down and notnlooking likely

[04Sauzee]

Currie had McKenna at Stoke on transfer window day.

[ian cruise]

The snag occurs when we want our top targets but don't have back up ones in case they don't get them, Allan last summer was a perfect example, we ended up with a short term loan in Hyndman instead, I wonder who else we may have had lined up or did we fully expect Allan to happen. Others like Stokes, McLaren etc are top targets which don't work out, look at loads of top clubs up and down the country, building a top squad especially with a reduced budget can be really hard and that's when you see how good your head coach is. We were lucky with Stubbs as he had a real eye for a players and a top coach in Doolan.

Thing is if we'd been linked with Hyndman earlier in the window a lot if folk would have been really excited by the prospect. Played in the league before, rivals young player of the year, highly regarded by his parent club.

It didn't work out with us for whatever reason, but it's not as if it was a signing that had people scratching their heads, his main flaw at the time of signing was that he wasn't Scott Allan

[Lago]

Oh well 😎

[Winston Ingram]

Sometimes it's worth breaking the wage barrier for players. Sauzee and Latapy for example. Hearts have got Naismith who's on huge money at Norwich. Prob playing 8k a week for him

Hearts situation is not even remotely comparable. Their fans pump over a million quid a year in to the FoH and have a benefactor or 2 which has stuck £4.5m into them over the last 2 years.

Unfortunately our fans aren't putting over a million quid a year into HSL and we don't have a benefactor pumping millions in. If Hearts were in the same boat, Naismith would be nowhere near Tynecastle.

[HibeeMassive]

Amateur hour!!!! Potential missing out on the 2 top choices. Picked Appleton over heckingbottom and now Appleton has turned us down, heckingbottom won't want tit now knowing we wanted someone else. Eddie and grant better get comfy in the hot seat. Comedy roadshow strikes again.embarrasing

Or...... none of this is true and the board are still working on a contract of employment with whoever they see as the no1 target.

[Jim44]

Let’s, for argument’s sake, go along with the suggestion that Appleton is riding off into the sunset as we speak and Heckingbottom has thrown the dummy out the window because he might have been a second choice. I find that a bit off. If I was in for a well paid job that I really wanted but found out that they had offered the job to another candidate, who ultimately had knocked back the offer, I wouldn’t think twice about accepting it. Bloody prima donnas.

[BoomtownHibees]

Grayson in to 8/1 out of nowhere

[James70]

Grayson in to 8/1 out of nowhere

Shut that door!

[SquashedFrogg]

Shut that door!

:faf: :top marks

[Unseen work]

Does anyone know why talks have stalled?

Doesnt look good for the club if it’s not Appleton as fans will know whoever they get in now won’t be who they wanted.

[SquashedFrogg]

Does anyone know why talks have stalled?

Doesnt look good for the club if it’s not Appleton as fans will know whoever they get in now won’t be who they wanted.

No one knows if Appleton is/was first choice. It's all speculation via media and rumours amongst fans.

[Lago]

Grayson in to 8/1 out of nowhere
This turning into a comedy of errors :confused:

[04Sauzee]

Does anyone know why talks have stalled?

Doesnt look good for the club if it’s not Appleton as fans will know whoever they get in now won’t be who they wanted.

That's the thing is we won't? It's just press speculation saying Appleton is 1st choice?

Did the EEN not run a story saying Heckingbottom was No 1 choice and he was away to sound out a No2 . The they run a story saying Appleton will be announced in the next 48hrs only to then run a story to say it's stalled and Heckingbottom a is our No1 target again?

Guess we just have to bide our time

[SquashedFrogg]

This turning into a comedy of errors :confused:

From the bookies yes.

[Callum_62]

If the talks with Appleton have indeed stalled - then first choice or not, we wanted him

It’s fairly safe to theorise, coming so close to May announcing he has been informed that Raith was his last game in the dugout- that Appleton was the one we thought we were getting


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[hibsbollah]

Cathro still a possibility then:whistle:

[erin go bragh]

Strachan tba Monday:)

[HoboHarry]

Cathro still a possibility then:whistle:
Bertie Auld just entered the race I heard.......

[Sioux]

If the talks with Appleton have indeed stalled - then first choice or not, we wanted him

It’s fairly safe to theorise, coming so close to May announcing he has been informed that Raith was his last game in the dugout- that Appleton was the one we thought we were getting


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And equally safe to say that you've not got a clue.

[Callum_62]

No - neither anyone else on the forum

Just shut it down then and only allow comments once an official announcement has been made

[emoji848]

We are at about 30 pages on this thread alone. No one has a clue


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[ian cruise]

No - neither anyone else on the forum

Just shut it down then and only allow comments once an official announcement has been made

[emoji848]

We are at about 30 pages on this thread alone. No one has a clue


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Difference is some are posting their opinion as fact, based on some very tenuous assumptions, and others are taking that misinformation as fact creating a very noticeable atmosphere of discontent. Some is just frustration I'm sure but there definitely others who are setting out to just cause trouble.

[SquashedFrogg]

If the talks with Appleton have indeed stalled - then first choice or not, we wanted him

It’s fairly safe to theorise, coming so close to May announcing he has been informed that Raith was his last game in the dugout- that Appleton was the one we thought we were getting


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Another fact that's purely your opinion.

I'm involved in recruitment at my work. Various stages throughout the process before committing. Even at the final stage we cannot be confident "we want them".

[Callum_62]

Another fact that's purely your opinion.

I'm involved in recruitment at my work. Various stages throughout the process before committing. Even at the final stage we cannot be confident "we want them".

Jesus - im giving my opinion based on the info we have in the public domain

As pretty much everyone else has or does on here

Im not stating that these are 100% the facts of the situation- as lets be honest, probably only a handful of folk know what the facts actually are

Its a bloody boring place when every post possibly saying “not a great look hibs” is met with - aye but you dinnie ken dae ye?

Its curious tho that the start of this thread there was basically no question of “facts” just welcome MA....heres a podcast etc

In terms of not knowing they want him....thats fair enough. They shouldn’t be telling the interim manager hes done if they are still at that stage though - which is one of the few facts we do know

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[jacomo]

And equally safe to say that you've not got a clue.


FFS it was a reasonable comment.

[Captain Trips]

This is a messageboard to discuss Hibs wether the opinion of the person is fact or not. Discussing who the manager is or why a manager may or may not come here is exactly the place for that to be discussed regardless if you know or not what is happening.

The facts will come out to a point and probably 99% of the posts on this thread will turn out to be nonsense. If we just post what we know as 100% fact there will be about 2 threads on here. Its not a fact we played pish in a game or played well so we come on and discuss.

[Sioux]

FFS it was a reasonable comment.

Great response ffs!

[ian cruise]

Jesus - im giving my opinion based on the info we have in the public domain

As pretty much everyone else has or does on here

Im not stating that these are 100% the facts of the situation- as lets be honest, probably only a handful of folk know what the facts actually are

Its a bloody boring place when every post possibly saying “not a great look hibs” is met with - aye but you dinnie ken dae ye?

Its curious tho that the start of this thread there was basically no question of “facts” just welcome MA....heres a podcast etc


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That's not true though is it

"If the talks with Appleton have indeed stalled - then first choice or not, we wanted him

It’s fairly safe to theorise, coming so close to May announcing he has been informed that Raith was his last game in the dugout- that Appleton was the one we thought we were getting"

Opinion posted as fact. You say it's safe to theorise that Appleton was the one we wanted based on nothing more that tabloid press stories with no source driven by bookies odds purely because it furthers some weird anti Hibs stance you hold.

[hibsbollah]

Bertie Auld just entered the race I heard.......

Ah, Bertie. The best scary grin in football. Jürgen Klopp coming up on the stand side but still half a furlong behind the great one.

[Captain Trips]

Difference is some are posting their opinion as fact, based on some very tenuous assumptions, and others are taking that misinformation as fact creating a very noticeable atmosphere of discontent. Some is just frustration I'm sure but there definitely others who are setting out to just cause trouble.

That is their own fault if believe it and these "facts" will likely turn out not to be but maybe the poster thought they were.

[Callum_62]

That's not true though is it

"If the talks with Appleton have indeed stalled - then first choice or not, we wanted him

It’s fairly safe to theorise, coming so close to May announcing he has been informed that Raith was his last game in the dugout- that Appleton was the one we thought we were getting"

Opinion posted as fact. You say it's safe to theorise that Appleton was the one we wanted based on nothing more that tabloid press stories with no source driven by bookies odds purely because it furthers some weird anti Hibs stance you hold.

What weird anti Hibs stance - thats an absolute nonsense. My posts are in no way anti hibs

We’ve had no official run down of the candidates obviously....so lets not discuss it at all

Until someone is paraded with a scarf above his head.

I did say “If indeed the talks have broken down”....because i dont know...so how am I masquerading my opinion as fact?

Wouldnt i say - the talks have broken down and we really wanted Appleton. Petrie gtf.




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[ian cruise]

That is their own fault if believe it and these "facts" will likely turn out not to be but maybe the poster thought they were.

They have later advised they know they aren't fact, they are opinion, the proceeded to paint the information as facts again. I'd suggest they're just trying to wind up other fans for some reason rather than have genuine concern. Just my opinion though.

[cabbageandribs1875]

what's Neil Lennon doing nowadays :hmmm:

[ian cruise]

What weird anti Hibs stance - thats an absolute nonsense. My posts are in no way anti hibs

We’ve had no official run down of the candidates obviously....so lets not discuss it at all

Until someone is paraded with a scarf above his head.

I did say “If indeed the talks have broken down”....because i dont know...so how am I masquerading my opinion as fact?

Wouldnt i say - the talks have broken down and we really wanted Appleton. Petrie gtf.




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Lots of people are discussing the candidates and the pros and cons of each. Some are discussing the process and what may or may not be happening. You seem to be determined to just keep shouting about how it's a shambles and how the club have no idea what their doing and are making us look foolish. That's not really engaging in discussion, it's just encouraging discontent. Obviously that's just my opinion though.

[Leith Green]

I know there is a lot of speculation rather than fact being reported on this , but im starting to feel slightly concerned here .. Something doesnt sit right. If Appleton has been offered the job after definitely one and quite possibly a second interview and then turned us down then that rings a massive alarm bell for me. Im all for supporting The new manager whoever it may be and have been supportive of what the club has done the past 4 / 5 years , im just starting to wonder if all is well at the top of our club.

[Callum_62]

Lots of people are discussing the candidates and the pros and cons of each. Some are discussing the process and what may or may not be happening. You seem to be determined to just keep shouting about how it's a shambles and how the club have no idea what their doing and are making us look foolish. That's not really engaging in discussion, it's just encouraging discontent. Obviously that's just my opinion though.

Ah you mean i reacted to a story today in the press saying talks have stalled

Of which i said if thats true and we dont have a new man in by Saturday (as our interim manager explicitly said) then i dont think its a great look for hibs

Outwith todays reaction, please point to my weird anti hibs stance




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[Captain Trips]

They have later advised they know they aren't fact, they are opinion, the proceeded to paint the information as facts again. I'd suggest they're just trying to wind up other fans for some reason rather than have genuine concern. Just my opinion though.

Big deal if you knew that why worry how others take it. I know most of the stuff on these threads is guesswork. About 2 or 3 people will know the facts of any given situation and likely do not post on here so we all end up guessing and conjecture.

[Joe6-2]

I know there is a lot of speculation rather than fact being reported on this , but im starting to feel slightly concerned here .. Something doesnt sit right. If Appleton has been offered the job after definitely one and quite possibly a second interview and then turned us down then that rings a massive alarm bell for me. Im all for supporting The new manager whoever it may be and have been supportive of what the club has done the past 4 / 5 years , im just starting to wonder if all is well at the top of our club.

This!!!

[The 90+2]

Another fact that's purely your opinion.

I'm involved in recruitment at my work. Various stages throughout the process before committing. Even at the final stage we cannot be confident "we want them".

Same here, when we want someone favourable early doors it’s clear what tier they will be on and what staff they will work with etc. If a guy can get to the final stage then turn us down you don’t get the best person for the job.

[ian cruise]

Ah you mean i reacted to a story today in the press saying talks have stalled

Of which i said if thats true and we dont have a new man in by Saturday (as our interim manger explicitly said) then i dont think its a great look for hibs

Outwith todays reaction, please point to my weird anti hibs stance




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You've been determined since the beginning of this that the club have been in the wrong, we've nothing to prove that, and seem determined to wind up fellow fans. I find that anti Hibs, maybe you don't.

Anyway I've had my say. Maybe you'll get your wish this process will descend in to farce and you'll get to sit on your high horse telling us how you were right the whole time, maybe not. I'll spend my time giving the club my backing instead of trying to beat them down while their trying to conduct their business privately.

[GloryGlory]

Same here, when we want someone favourable early doors it’s clear what tier they will be on and what staff they will work with etc. If a guy can get to the final stage then turn us down you don’t get the best person for the job.

My experience, too.

Until they sign on the dotted you can never be sure. Even then, I've had people come back and say they've changed their minds/had a better offer and we were back to square one.

That's why we also had other candidates deemed "appointable" - in case the offer was not accepted by the preferred candidate.

[Callum_62]

You've been determined since the beginning of this that the club have been in the wrong, we've nothing to prove that, and seem determined to wind up fellow fans. I find that anti Hibs, maybe you don't.

Anyway I've had my say. Maybe you'll get your wish this process will descend in to farce and you'll get to sit on your high horse telling us how you were right the whole time, maybe not. I'll spend my time giving the club my backing instead of trying to beat them down while their trying to conduct their business privately.

Beginning of what?

Are you confusing me with another poster or what?

Ive literally been standing up for the club with some folk saying they are taking too long etc

The only possible “anti Hibs” thing ive said could be today from the “stalled talks” press link


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[ian cruise]

Beginning of what?

Are you confusing me with another poster or what?

Ive literally be standing up for the club with some folk saying they are taking too long etc

The only possible “anti Hibs” thing ive said could be today from the “stalled talks” press link


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I must be and in that case I apologise.

[Hibees1973]

From the day Dempster showed Lennon the door she put herself under pressure. Wonder how she feels now.

For Eddie May to state on Saturday that a new manager would be in place this week, everyone in authority at Hibs (management) must have felt Appleton was a done deal. I picked up an afternoon edition of the Edinburgh Evening News today and David Hardie had a whole back page spread saying Hibs were poised to appoint Appleton. The EEN is not a red top tabloid and not prone to an inaccurate high catching headline. Hardie now has an article on the EEN website saying Heckingbottom has emerged as favourite. Jesus what is going on.

Now nearly 3 weeks since the Lennon incident. This whole episode has gone from disaster to farce. We have been ‘news’ for all the wrong reasons.

If it is not Appleton then any one else is going to be Dempster’s second, third, etc choice. Hibs, please do not appoint a permanent manager just now.

Time me to call a halt to all this. With May’s press conferences and his comments, i.e. does not want to go anywhere near the job, then appoint Grant Murray or Stubbs as interim manager until the end of the season.

Going by the comments on Hibs.net we have not been inspired by the supposedley main candidates, Appleton and Heckingbottom, have we. We should take more time. More qualified and inspirational candidates will emerge.

At a time when we needed stability the Hibs board are self distructing.

Dempster stated at a cosy Hibs manufactured interview last week that we are not in turmoil. Sorry but we seems to be that just now. Wonder how she would do just now when questioned by the real press.

[Callum_62]

I must be and in that case I apologise.

I was just ordering a high horse of Amazon too [emoji23]


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[The Leith Dutch]

From the day Dempster showed Lennon the door she put herself under pressure. Wonder how she feels now.

For Eddie May to state on Saturday that a new manager would be in place this week, everyone in authority at Hibs (management) must have felt Appleton was a done deal. I picked up an afternoon edition of the Edinburgh Evening News today and David Hardie had a whole back page spread saying Hibs were poised to appoint Appleton. The EEN is not a red top tabloid and not prone to an inaccurate high catching headline. Hardie now has an article on the EEN website saying Heckingbottom has emerged as favourite. Jesus what is going on.

Now nearly 3 weeks since the Lennon incident. This whole episode has gone from disaster to farce. We have been ‘news’ for all the wrong reasons.

If it is not Appleton then any one else is going to be Dempster’s second, third, etc choice. Hibs, please do not appoint a permanent manager just now.

Time me to call a halt to all this. With May’s press conferences and his comments, i.e. does not want to go anywhere near the job, then appoint Grant Murray or Stubbs as interim manager until the end of the season.

Going by the comments on Hibs.net we have not been inspired by the supposedley main candidates, Appleton and Heckingbottom, have we. We should take more time. More qualified and inspirational candidates will emerge.

At a time when we needed stability the Hibs board are self distructing.

Dempster stated at a cosy Hibs manufactured interview last week that we are not in turmoil. Sorry but we seems to be that just now. Wonder how she would do just now when questioned by the real press.

Trolling bollocks.

[Lago]

Sky Sports hedging their bets big time now, no longer a 2 horse race all the original names back in the mix.

[Joe6-2]

Sky Sports hedging their bets big time now, no longer a 2 horse race all the original names back in the mix.

What a bloody farce

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Trolling bollocks.


We certainly seem to know how to whip up a frenzy off the back of 5h1t happens events....

[One Day Soon]

There's been such a heightened reek of Yam on .net for weeks and weeks now that it's almost becoming hard to recognise it so much as it becomes a settled part of the furniture.

[GloryGlory]

Sky Sports hedging their bets big time now, no longer a 2 horse race all the original names back in the mix.

Which means they know nowt, as does the rest of the press.

[BoomtownHibees]

Sky Sports hedging their bets big time now, no longer a 2 horse race all the original names back in the mix.

They’re not. Outwith the obvious 2 then next in line is 10/1

[HoboHarry]

From the day Dempster showed Lennon the door she put herself under pressure. Wonder how she feels now.

For Eddie May to state on Saturday that a new manager would be in place this week, everyone in authority at Hibs (management) must have felt Appleton was a done deal. I picked up an afternoon edition of the Edinburgh Evening News today and David Hardie had a whole back page spread saying Hibs were poised to appoint Appleton. The EEN is not a red top tabloid and not prone to an inaccurate high catching headline. Hardie now has an article on the EEN website saying Heckingbottom has emerged as favourite. Jesus what is going on.

Now nearly 3 weeks since the Lennon incident. This whole episode has gone from disaster to farce. We have been ‘news’ for all the wrong reasons.

If it is not Appleton then any one else is going to be Dempster’s second, third, etc choice. Hibs, please do not appoint a permanent manager just now.

Time me to call a halt to all this. With May’s press conferences and his comments, i.e. does not want to go anywhere near the job, then appoint Grant Murray or Stubbs as interim manager until the end of the season.

Going by the comments on Hibs.net we have not been inspired by the supposedley main candidates, Appleton and Heckingbottom, have we. We should take more time. More qualified and inspirational candidates will emerge.

At a time when we needed stability the Hibs board are self distructing.

Dempster stated at a cosy Hibs manufactured interview last week that we are not in turmoil. Sorry but we seems to be that just now. Wonder how she would do just now when questioned by the real press.

If she was questioned for three straight days with no sleep she still wouldn't talk as much bollocks as you do.

[Iain G]

From the day Dempster showed Lennon the door she put herself under pressure. Wonder how she feels now.

For Eddie May to state on Saturday that a new manager would be in place this week, everyone in authority at Hibs (management) must have felt Appleton was a done deal. I picked up an afternoon edition of the Edinburgh Evening News today and David Hardie had a whole back page spread saying Hibs were poised to appoint Appleton. The EEN is not a red top tabloid and not prone to an inaccurate high catching headline. Hardie now has an article on the EEN website saying Heckingbottom has emerged as favourite. Jesus what is going on.

Now nearly 3 weeks since the Lennon incident. This whole episode has gone from disaster to farce. We have been ‘news’ for all the wrong reasons.

If it is not Appleton then any one else is going to be Dempster’s second, third, etc choice. Hibs, please do not appoint a permanent manager just now.

Time me to call a halt to all this. With May’s press conferences and his comments, i.e. does not want to go anywhere near the job, then appoint Grant Murray or Stubbs as interim manager until the end of the season.

Going by the comments on Hibs.net we have not been inspired by the supposedley main candidates, Appleton and Heckingbottom, have we. We should take more time. More qualified and inspirational candidates will emerge.

At a time when we needed stability the Hibs board are self distructing.

Dempster stated at a cosy Hibs manufactured interview last week that we are not in turmoil. Sorry but we seems to be that just now. Wonder how she would do just now when questioned by the real press.

Self distruction? What rubbish! It's all press speculation and as always Hibs continue to do their business on the low down and professionally. Maybe Appleton has said no but that could be down to a miriad of personal or contractual reasons, doesn't mean Hibs have done anything wrong. We all take jobs and reject others for many reasons.

[Leith Green]

People criticising the club for lack of information need to remember a thing or two. Look at the drama that has unfolded around appleton apparently being offered the job and him supposedly turning us down .. The club cannot seriously operate on ifs and maybes , lets be perfectly honest about that , people cannot seriously expect them to publicly state who they are after and what stage talks etc are at ..

My concern will be if it transpires that we did offer appleton the job after 2 interviews, and that he has turned us down. Id be questioning why an out of work manager who was keen to come here all of a sudden doesn’t fancy it.

[04Sauzee]

Press speculation as to what happened with Lennon.
Press speculation in regards to Appleton
Press speculation in regards to Heckingbottom

Not sure why all off a sudden we believe everything coming from the media.

I'm sure the board will get this right.

As I have mentioned before the only concern I have is that May said he wouldn't be in the dugout on Saturday. If we don't appoint someone tomorrow then I don't think a new guy would have enough time to prepare the team for Saturday.

[tamig]

From the day Dempster showed Lennon the door she put herself under pressure. Wonder how she feels now.

For Eddie May to state on Saturday that a new manager would be in place this week, everyone in authority at Hibs (management) must have felt Appleton was a done deal. I picked up an afternoon edition of the Edinburgh Evening News today and David Hardie had a whole back page spread saying Hibs were poised to appoint Appleton. The EEN is not a red top tabloid and not prone to an inaccurate high catching headline. Hardie now has an article on the EEN website saying Heckingbottom has emerged as favourite. Jesus what is going on.

Now nearly 3 weeks since the Lennon incident. This whole episode has gone from disaster to farce. We have been ‘news’ for all the wrong reasons.

If it is not Appleton then any one else is going to be Dempster’s second, third, etc choice. Hibs, please do not appoint a permanent manager just now.

Time me to call a halt to all this. With May’s press conferences and his comments, i.e. does not want to go anywhere near the job, then appoint Grant Murray or Stubbs as interim manager until the end of the season.

Going by the comments on Hibs.net we have not been inspired by the supposedley main candidates, Appleton and Heckingbottom, have we. We should take more time. More qualified and inspirational candidates will emerge.

At a time when we needed stability the Hibs board are self distructing.

Dempster stated at a cosy Hibs manufactured interview last week that we are not in turmoil. Sorry but we seems to be that just now. Wonder how she would do just now when questioned by the real press.
What a pile of over-dramatic poo. Absolute tosh.

[The_Horde]

What a pile of over-dramatic poo. Absolute tosh.

Agreed. Complete drivel.

[Borderhibbie76]

Have i missed something here?? Why is everyone getting their knickers in a knot on heresay of tabloid press...unbelievable. can we just wait and see what happens before blaming the club??

Twitter and Facebook full of it too...unbelievable overreaction without knowing any facts whatsoever.

It's all Petries fault according to Twitter...now I'm not nor never have been his biggest fan but folk are just grasping at straws....

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[SquashedFrogg]

Jesus - im giving my opinion based on the info we have in the public domain

As pretty much everyone else has or does on here

Im not stating that these are 100% the facts of the situation- as lets be honest, probably only a handful of folk know what the facts actually are

Its a bloody boring place when every post possibly saying “not a great look hibs” is met with - aye but you dinnie ken dae ye?

Its curious tho that the start of this thread there was basically no question of “facts” just welcome MA....heres a podcast etc

In terms of not knowing they want him....thats fair enough. They shouldn’t be telling the interim manager hes done if they are still at that stage though - which is one of the few facts we do know

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But your opinion is always laced with an element of 'matter of fact'.

Your last sentence epitomises my point.

[SquashedFrogg]

From the day Dempster showed Lennon the door she put herself under pressure. Wonder how she feels now.

For Eddie May to state on Saturday that a new manager would be in place this week, everyone in authority at Hibs (management) must have felt Appleton was a done deal. I picked up an afternoon edition of the Edinburgh Evening News today and David Hardie had a whole back page spread saying Hibs were poised to appoint Appleton. The EEN is not a red top tabloid and not prone to an inaccurate high catching headline. Hardie now has an article on the EEN website saying Heckingbottom has emerged as favourite. Jesus what is going on.

Now nearly 3 weeks since the Lennon incident. This whole episode has gone from disaster to farce. We have been ‘news’ for all the wrong reasons.

If it is not Appleton then any one else is going to be Dempster’s second, third, etc choice. Hibs, please do not appoint a permanent manager just now.

Time me to call a halt to all this. With May’s press conferences and his comments, i.e. does not want to go anywhere near the job, then appoint Grant Murray or Stubbs as interim manager until the end of the season.

Going by the comments on Hibs.net we have not been inspired by the supposedley main candidates, Appleton and Heckingbottom, have we. We should take more time. More qualified and inspirational candidates will emerge.

At a time when we needed stability the Hibs board are self distructing.

Dempster stated at a cosy Hibs manufactured interview last week that we are not in turmoil. Sorry but we seems to be that just now. Wonder how she would do just now when questioned by the real press.

Lost for words.

[Callum_62]

But your opinion is always laced with an element of 'matter of fact'.

Your last sentence epitomises my point.

The last sentence was fact - so laced with an epitome of actual fact?

Im genuinely curious as to the reaction here as I’ve only commented on today’s report as saying if hibs dont get someone in by Sat then its not a good look

Not because its too long a process but because eddie may said we would

Before that i was entirely chilled and comfortable with Hibs

Lennon situation was unfortunate and we will never know what really happened but I didnt bump my gums over that or go all anti hibs or anti Dempster


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[Col2]

From the day Dempster showed Lennon the door she put herself under pressure. Wonder how she feels now.

For Eddie May to state on Saturday that a new manager would be in place this week, everyone in authority at Hibs (management) must have felt Appleton was a done deal. I picked up an afternoon edition of the Edinburgh Evening News today and David Hardie had a whole back page spread saying Hibs were poised to appoint Appleton. The EEN is not a red top tabloid and not prone to an inaccurate high catching headline. Hardie now has an article on the EEN website saying Heckingbottom has emerged as favourite. Jesus what is going on.

Now nearly 3 weeks since the Lennon incident. This whole episode has gone from disaster to farce. We have been ‘news’ for all the wrong reasons.

If it is not Appleton then any one else is going to be Dempster’s second, third, etc choice. Hibs, please do not appoint a permanent manager just now.

Time me to call a halt to all this. With May’s press conferences and his comments, i.e. does not want to go anywhere near the job, then appoint Grant Murray or Stubbs as interim manager until the end of the season.

Going by the comments on Hibs.net we have not been inspired by the supposedley main candidates, Appleton and Heckingbottom, have we. We should take more time. More qualified and inspirational candidates will emerge.

At a time when we needed stability the Hibs board are self distructing.

Dempster stated at a cosy Hibs manufactured interview last week that we are not in turmoil. Sorry but we seems to be that just now. Wonder how she would do just now when questioned by the real press.

You live by the sword and die by the sword. The suspension and exit of Lennon was a big big call and while we don’t know the detail what we do know is that LD made that call. That’s fine and while a shock I think most of us accept that relationships break down and nobody is bigger than the club.

However it’s a totally different ball game if it’s followed up with a 2nd/3rd choice appointment when all indications by club, EEN etc suggest it’s done and dusted for 1st choice.

The club is at a serious cross road here. Screw it up with a compromised appointment and batten down the hatches and the board can kiss goodbye to strong season ticket sales and remaining good will.

I would rather they were open and honest and go with interim until summer if we don’t get 1st choice Appleton.

[Paisley Hibby]

You live by the sword and die by the sword. The suspension and exit of Lennon was a big big call and while we don’t know the detail what we do know is that LD made that call. That’s fine and while a shock I think most of us accept that relationships break down and nobody is bigger than the club.

However it’s a totally different ball game if it’s followed up with a 2nd/3rd choice appointment when all indications by club, EEN etc suggest it’s done and dusted for 1st choice.

The club is at a serious cross road here. Screw it up with a compromised appointment and batten down the hatches and the board can kiss goodbye to strong season ticket sales and remaining good will.

I would rather they were open and honest and go with interim until summer if we don’t get 1st choice Appleton.

I agreed with you until the last bit. Do you actually know for certain that Appleton was the first choice and, if you do, can you share how you know that?

[w pilton hibby]

The last sentence was fact - so laced with an epitome of actual fact?

Im genuinely curious as to the reaction here as I’ve only commented on today’s report as saying if hibs dont get someone in by Sat then its not a good look

Not because its too long a process but because eddie may said we would

Before that i was entirely chilled and comfortable with Hibs

Lennon situation was unfortunate and we will never know what really happened but I didnt bump my gums over that or go all anti hibs or anti Dempster


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Perhaps Eddie May was told it was expected that an appointment would be made by Wednesday and if it was he and Grant wouldn't be needed on Saturday.

Then perhaps he meant to say this but it came out wrongly.

[Callum_62]

Perhaps Eddie May was told it was expected that an appointment would be made by Wednesday and if it was he and Grant wouldn't be needed on Saturday.

Then perhaps he meant to say this but it came out wrongly.

If you go back and read his quote - hes pretty explicit


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[green day]

If you go back and read his quote - hes pretty explicit


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.............and we dont know at this point if he was right or wrong?

[Callum_62]

.............and we dont know at this point if he was right or wrong?

We dont....but its not what was quoted/suggested above

Im sure the board are working hard at getting someone in

Probably a lesson here though in keeping it inhouse until its really finalised


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[w pilton hibby]

If you go back and read his quote - hes pretty explicit


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He's in a job he doesn't want to do. And doing interviews he doesn't want to do.

I can quite easily see him expressing the info he was given the way he did.

[Hibees1973]

You live by the sword and die by the sword. The suspension and exit of Lennon was a big big call and while we don’t know the detail what we do know is that LD made that call. That’s fine and while a shock I think most of us accept that relationships break down and nobody is bigger than the club.

However it’s a totally different ball game if it’s followed up with a 2nd/3rd choice appointment when all indications by club, EEN etc suggest it’s done and dusted for 1st choice.

The club is at a serious cross road here. Screw it up with a compromised appointment and batten down the hatches and the board can kiss goodbye to strong season ticket sales and remaining good will.

I would rather they were open and honest and go with interim until summer if we don’t get 1st choice Appleton.

While I did not expect widespread approval to my post it is surprising and disturbing when unconstructive comments such as ‘bollocks’ and ‘troll’ are posted.

Anyone whole thinks this whole new manager process is going smoothly is wearing blinkers or green tinted specs. This forum is the only platform Hibs supporters have to air our views and while we never get 100% apporoval some of us feel it is only right to question how our club is run.

Agree with what you say in that we go with an interim appointment until a first choice and someone willing to manage and take Hibs forward is identified. To rush or to go with a second/third choice is only going to split our support even more.

Dempster talks of a structure at Hibs. It could be that this rigidity is what the problem is.

[jacomo]

What a pile of over-dramatic poo. Absolute tosh.


Might be over-dramatic but I don’t dismiss it all as tosh.

I’m very reluctant to write this season off because we still have top 6 and Scottish Cup to play for but we really do need a head coach in soon.

[SquashedFrogg]

While I did not expect widespread approval to my post it is surprising and disturbing when unconstructive comments such as ‘bollocks’ and ‘troll’ are posted.

Anyone whole thinks this whole new manager process is going smoothly is wearing blinkers or green tinted specs. This forum is the only platform Hibs supporters have to air our views and while we never get 100% apporoval some of us feel it is only right to question how our club is run.

Agree with what you say in that we go with an interim appointment until a first choice and someone willing to manage and take Hibs forward is identified. To rush or to go with a second/third choice is only going to split our support even more.

Dempster talks of a structure at Hibs. It could be that this rigidity is what the problem is.

There's a pattern with these posts. Same terminology. Always asking "anyone who thinks..."

Hmmmm

[Callum_62]

He's in a job he doesn't want to do. And doing interviews he doesn't want to do.

I can quite easily see him expressing the info he was given the way he did.

He could have i guess. Quoted from sky

“"That will be my last game and I am delighted to go out on a win," he said. "The new man is coming in and at least we are in the quarter-final.

"I have been told this was my last game and that the new man will come - I was told about five minutes before kick-off. I won't be in charge for the Hamilton game”

Im sure Eddie hopes hes right as much as we do [emoji23][emoji23]


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[superfurryhibby]

You live by the sword and die by the sword. The suspension and exit of Lennon was a big big call and while we don’t know the detail what we do know is that LD made that call. That’s fine and while a shock I think most of us accept that relationships break down and nobody is bigger than the club.

However it’s a totally different ball game if it’s followed up with a 2nd/3rd choice appointment when all indications by club, EEN etc suggest it’s done and dusted for 1st choice.

The club is at a serious cross road here. Screw it up with a compromised appointment and batten down the hatches and the board can kiss goodbye to strong season ticket sales and remaining good will.

I would rather they were open and honest and go with interim until summer if we don’t get 1st choice Appleton.

It wasn’t a shock that Lennon and Hibs parted company, was it? More the bizarre manner of the final events.

Equally, no one really knows the ins and outs of our recruitment processes. The Only indication from the club was our harrassed caretaker saying he expects a new man in charge for our next game. There’s every chance they will be?

Personally I don’t really care who it is, as long as they do better than Lennon was these past four-five months. A big name might have been a bit of a statement of intent, but I’ll be happy just seeing if the new man can improve results.

What is clear to me though is that fans vote with their feet and pockets. If we continue in the same vein of form then we’ll not be seeing anywhere near as many season tickets. The stakes are quite high and the underwhelming season we’ve been having is not doing much for the feel good factor.

Big appointment coming up, one way or another.

[jacomo]

There's a pattern with these posts. Same terminology. Always asking "anyone who thinks..."

Hmmmm


The point stands though.

Communication from the club has been poor.

[MB62]

You live by the sword and die by the sword. The suspension and exit of Lennon was a big big call and while we don’t know the detail what we do know is that LD made that call. That’s fine and while a shock I think most of us accept that relationships break down and nobody is bigger than the club.

However it’s a totally different ball game if it’s followed up with a 2nd/3rd choice appointment when all indications by club, EEN etc suggest it’s done and dusted for 1st choice.

The club is at a serious cross road here. Screw it up with a compromised appointment and batten down the hatches and the board can kiss goodbye to strong season ticket sales and remaining good will.
I would rather they were open and honest and go with interim until summer if we don’t get 1st choice Appleton.


I'm not convinced it was LD who the decision to let NL go, in fact I would be extremely surprised if it was because, IMO, that would have been a conflict of interest.
I also have yet to hear the club 'officially indicate' ANYTHING on the appointment of a new manager or even who they are interviewing, that is all hearsay and media speculation.
Nobody really knows anything, yet there's a superstore full of twisted underwear on here because somebody who few had heard off 2 weeks ago, may or may not have been interviewed for the managers job and may or may not have been offered it and may or may not have decided against it?
Only fact I know is neither me nor the wife applied for the job and so far neither of us have been interviewed nor turned the job down.

[Col2]

I agreed with you until the last bit. Do you actually know for certain that Appleton was the first choice and, if you do, can you share how you know that?

No of course not. But what was clear was we were interviewing in England, our interim manager said appointment imminent and EEN were running a two page spread on the new man. ALL indications suggested he was going to be appointed. At no point did we hear anyone else turn us down.

[Liberal Hibby]

The point stands though.

Communication from the club has been poor.

What is there to communicate?

[madhatter]

Club have put pressure on themselves by telling May “that’s your last game, thanks very much” and then had May telling that to everyone. Really hope we do not rush this because our main target is now not happening.

Really hope this is just media circus and we are still getting main target. Fed up of Hibs this season and we could all do with a bit of positivity around the place.

[Hibees1973]

There's a pattern with these posts. Same terminology. Always asking "anyone who thinks..."

Hmmmm

Ok then, have it your way. Shut Hibs.net down so nobody is able to post their views or comments.

This is why Hibs.net exists. Nobody here, I think, is in possession of the facts. Pompous and sometimes offensive comments such as yours is only going to suppress people voicing thier opinion.

To stop people saying things such as maybe’, ‘in my opinion’ or as you say ‘anyone who think’s...’ will close down the site and the fun.

[Joe6-2]

Club have put pressure on themselves by telling May “that’s your last game, thanks very much” and then had May telling that to everyone. Really hope we do not rush this because our main target is now not happening.

Really hope this is just media circus and we are still getting main target. Fed up of Hibs this season and we could all do with a bit of positivity around the place.

True, very negative at the moment

[Greenworld]

What is there to communicate?We are still discussing things with two candidates despite press reports .

We have decided on our chosen candidate and talks continue.

Our first choice has unfortunately got a agent who is demanding English type wages and terms we cannot meet so the search continues.

It's not difficult to say something without compromising things


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[Liberal Hibby]

We are still discussing things with two candidates despite press reports .

We have decided on our chosen candidate and talks continue.

Our first choice has unfortunately got a agent who is demanding English type wages and terms we cannot meet so the search continues.

It's not difficult to say something without compromising things


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Firstly that's entiretyhearsay and secondly no employerreveals the details of it's recruitment process when in the middle of it. We will let people know when there is something to say.

[tamig]

The point stands though.

Communication from the club has been poor.

Again, a recruitment process is ongoing. What do you want the club to say? Just to state the obvious so you can hear it first hand? They’re never going to name names or state how many are on the short list etc. That’s a sure fire way of ending up with egg on your face.

[Greenworld]

Firstly that's entiretyhearsay and secondly no employerreveals the details of it's recruitment process when in the middle of it. We will let people know when there is something to say.The royal we you use is the annoying bit for most.

You are delusional if you think you cannot say anything we moved on and are now going backwards in a communication sense

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[Colin191078]

Ok then, have it your way. Shut Hibs.net down so nobody is able to post their views or comments.

This is why Hibs.net exists. Nobody here, I think, is in possession of the facts. Pompous and sometimes offensive comments such as yours is only going to suppress people voicing thier opinion.

To stop people saying things such as maybe’, ‘in my opinion’ or as you say ‘anyone who think’s...’ will close down the site and the fun.

I’ve got a couple of facts!
Players were telling people Appleton was the new manager, that was yesterday.
Paul Heckingbottom said this morning he was on his way to Edinburgh to seal the deal.
Michael Appleton also said this morning he had the job.
****in work that out!!🤣🤣

[LancsHibs]

It was all pure speculation that is was Appleton
Now pure speculation that it’s not him
I shall wait until there is something more than rumour to get excited about

[bingo70]

Again, a recruitment process is ongoing. What do you want the club to say? Just to state the obvious so you can hear it first hand? They’re never going to name names or state how many are on the short list etc. That’s a sure fire way of ending up with egg on your face.

Aye, we’ve done a great job of keeping egg off our face here right enough 😂

[tamig]

Aye, we’ve done a great job of keeping egg off our face here right enough 😂

So we tell folk what they want to hear and preferred candidate knocks us back or it falls through. We move on to number two. How does number two feel knowing he wasn’t first choice? Its also a perception that the club are screwing up here. Too many MSM sheep about. We go about our business in a professional manner and will say something when there’s something to be said. If that disappoints folk like yourself then that’s tough.

[tamig]

The royal we you use is the annoying bit for most.

You are delusional if you think you cannot say anything we moved on and are now going backwards in a communication sense

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Tell us what the club should be saying then? What would be satisfactory communication in this situation in your opinion?

[bingo70]

So we tell folk what they want to hear and preferred candidate knocks us back or it falls through. We move on to number two. How does number two feel knowing he wasn’t first choice? Its also a perception that the club are screwing up here. Too many MSM sheep about. We go about our business in a professional manner and will say something when there’s something to be said. If that disappoints folk like yourself then that’s tough.

Tbh I’ve said my piece on a couple of different threads and I can’t really be bothered going into it again but essentially I think there’s ways of speaking to the media and putting things out there without it being through official channels.

FWIW I dont know if the club have done anything wrong or not here, I just think the club hasn’t had a good couple of weeks from a PR perspective and I’m not sure we’re doing enough to defend ourselves. We had the one video from Dempster but it was too long and too much waffle so wasn’t effective imo and any credibility was lost when she said Shaw was one of the best young players in Europe. I think that was an opportunity missed to speak to the masses.

Also FWIW, my post was slightly tongue in cheek as getting egg on our faces is exactly what everyone is saying is exactly what’s happened to us here.

[04Sauzee]

If anyone is interested in the managerial odds it's...
Heckingbottom 1/4
Appleton 5/2

[Ronniekirk]

I seem to recall in his interview Eddie also said he would be taking training on Tuesday which is today
So I would expect if he is to continue taking training tomorrow the Club will make a brief statement confirming this if no announcement is made confirming who the new Manager is
So to be honest I wasn’t expecting any Appointment until tomorrow


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[Greenworld]

Tell us what the club should be saying then? What would be satisfactory communication in this situation in your opinion?Any communication would be a bonus.

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[Stevie Reid]

It really is depressing how effective the tabloids are at whipping up anger and outrage.

I’ll be disappointed if it’s not Appleton after what’s been written in the last few days, but none of that came from the club.

To see words and phrases like ‘crisis’ and ‘PR disaster’ banded about is laughable.

[HoboHarry]

I said somewhere else that I kind of hope it's someone else completely just to see the seethe on .net.....

[Keyser Sauzee]

Why are people really bothered about how this whole situation looks? I don’t care what other teams fans or pundits say.

[Stevie Reid]

Why are people really bothered about how this whole situation looks? I don’t care what other teams fans or pundits say.

Was saying exactly the same to my mates earlier.

[Rumble de Thump]

Any communication would be a bonus.

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Watch Leeann Dempster's interview.

[tamig]

Tbh I’ve said my piece on a couple of different threads and I can’t really be bothered going into it again but essentially I think there’s ways of speaking to the media and putting things out there without it being through official channels.

FWIW I dont know if the club have done anything wrong or not here, I just think the club hasn’t had a good couple of weeks from a PR perspective and I’m not sure we’re doing enough to defend ourselves. We had the one video from Dempster but it was too long and too much waffle so wasn’t effective imo and any credibility was lost when she said Shaw was one of the best young players in Europe. I think that was an opportunity missed to speak to the masses.

Also FWIW, my post was slightly tongue in cheek as getting egg on our faces is exactly what everyone is saying is exactly what’s happened to us here.
Like I said. I think the impression that we’re being ripped in the media is a perception, and is only there if you wish to view it in that way. I did think the Oli Shaw comment was a bit surprising in that interview last week. Maybe he will turn out to be exactly that though 😀

[tamig]

Any communication would be a bonus.

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Did Leeann not tell us about the process last week?

[green day]

Barrie Wilkins just tweeted something interesting

[B.H.F.C]

Why are people really bothered about how this whole situation looks? I don’t care what other teams fans or pundits say.

Don’t care about how it looks to outsiders.

But it’s not exactly encouraging our own to get along to Easter Road on Saturday. As things stand of course.

[Hibbyradge]

Why are people really bothered about how this whole situation looks? I don’t care what other teams fans or pundits say.

:agree:

I'm not even sure if other fans are saying much at all. If they are, then they would, wouldn't they.

It's folk on here who are criticising the club.

FFS, there were people last Thursday saying that LD was lying about there being interviews this week!

[04Sauzee]

To be fair some of the bed wetting and gnashing of teeth on here is nothing compared to what's posted on Twitter.

[Brightside]

Any communication would be a bonus.

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But it’s a recruitment process. Do you expect daily updates on the recruitment of your local bank manager, or new postie?

[Onion]

It really is depressing how effective the tabloids are at whipping up anger and outrage.

I’ll be disappointed if it’s not Appleton after what’s been written in the last few days, but none of that came from the club.

To see words and phrases like ‘crisis’ and ‘PR disaster’ banded about is laughable.

Folk are just nervous. We all know this is a key appointment and is taking longer than Stubbs and Lennon did, and few of us know much about the candidates. All that just adds to the concern about how good the candidates are, how committed they are and how ambitious the club is.

Lennon's appointment was a real statement of intent, and everyone could see that. It was a coup.

Everything about this appointment feels like a gamble and a backward step.

[tamig]

:agree:

I'm not even sure if other fans are saying much at all. If they are, then they would, wouldn't they.

It's folk on here who are criticising the club.

FFS, there were people last Thursday saying that LD was lying about there being interviews this week!

I know. We are in the middle of recruiting a new manager/head coach. Going by some of the recent comments on here folk won’t be happy until they hear the club saying that we’re in the middle of recruiting a new manager/head coach. Its mental.

[Wakeyhibee]

I said somewhere else that I kind of hope it's someone else completely just to see the seethe on .net.....

That would make me smile also. Not any seethe necessarily but maybe a realization that all this panic and complaining was over something Hibs didn't deem the right way forward.

I'm just as eager as anyone to see where we're going direction wise.

[green day]

Folk are just nervous. We all know this is a key appointment and is taking longer than Stubbs and Lennon did, and few of us know much about the candidates. All that just adds to the concern about how good the candidates are, how committed they are and how ambitious the club is.

Lennon's appointment was a real statement of intent, and everyone could see that. It was a coup.

Everything about this appointment feels like a gamble and a backward step.

Jesus Christ man, we haven't announced anyone, how the hell can it be "a gamble and a backward step"???

FFS !

[SquashedFrogg]

It really is depressing how effective the tabloids are at whipping up anger and outrage.

I’ll be disappointed if it’s not Appleton after what’s been written in the last few days, but none of that came from the club.

To see words and phrases like ‘crisis’ and ‘PR disaster’ banded about is laughable.

With you. Sadly the whipping up outrage and anger has also infultrated .net

Not difficult to spot alternate user names using same vernacular and text patterns.

We are all Hibbys. Differing opinions but all feel the same about our club.

[Golden Bear]

Barrie Wilkins just tweeted something interesting

What was that then?

[WoreTheGreen]

But it’s a recruitment process. Do you expect daily updates on the recruitment of your local bank manager, or new postie?

Aye that jakie Pat f....d off with a cat. It’s no the cat mmmmnh

[madhatter]

What was that then?

Something about a jigsaw.

[we are hibs]

I said somewhere else that I kind of hope it's someone else completely just to see the seethe on .net.....

What a bizarre post.

[green day]

What was that then?

"Another piece added to the jigsaw!"

[Hibbyradge]

"Another piece added to the jigsaw!"

Who is he, and to what was he refering?

Is he doing a jigsaw?

[H18 SFR]

"Another piece added to the jigsaw!"

Another attention seeking social media post no doubt!

[green day]

Who is he, and to what was he refering?

Is he doing a jigsaw?

Hibs Announcer

[04Sauzee]

Who is he, and to what was he refering?

Is he doing a jigsaw?

The Hibs announcer, posted a few teasers just before announcing Kamberi and Maclaren in the summer

[tamig]

With you. Sadly the whipping up outrage and anger has also infultrated .net

Not difficult to spot alternate user names using same vernacular and text patterns.

We are all Hibbys. Differing opinions but all feel the same about our club.

Spot on. I can’t believe some of the stuff posters on here are coming out with. Lets all jump on board the beat up the club bandwagon.

[heretoday]

Perhaps Grant Murray would like a go.

[SquashedFrogg]

Jesus Christ man, we haven't announced anyone, how the hell can it be "a gamble and a backward step"???

FFS !

Agree. It's a new level of strangeness when people start criticising someone who doesn't exist!

[Hibbyradge]

Hibs Announcer

Of course, thanks.

More cryptic than interesting, but quite possibly meaningless in a Hibs context.

[Iain G]

Looks like Solskjaer may be available now, maybe we have been cleverly biding our time.

[Stuart93]

He doesn’t usually tweet anything cryptic like that unless it’s regarding hibs

[04Sauzee]

Hibs Talk podcast tweeted the following, not sure how reliable they are


Hibs will announce their new manager tomorrow after a deal was agreed tonight.

Have heard it's Heckingbottom
#Hibs #ggtth #hibernian #HFC https://t.co/jzbaDI4DqK

[sambajustice]

Maybe someone like Hartley, Pressley or Neilson would be a good shout. They would know the inner workings of the jambos, their mindset and how they prepare for games against us thus giving us a psychological edge in the derby games.

Also, with 2 of those 3 having played for Celtic, one a captain and one a celtic fan, it would surely allow us to keep good relations with the east end of glasgow which has served us well in recent years...

Win Win all round...

[SquashedFrogg]

Hibs Talk podcast tweeted the following, not sure how reliable they are


Hibs will announce their new manager tomorrow after a deal was agreed tonight.

Have heard it's Heckingbottom
#Hibs #ggtth #hibernian #HFC https://t.co/jzbaDI4DqK

Fingers crossed!! Like him a lot. Although as we all know, it's a FACT that he wasn't first choice.

[Hibbyradge]

Maybe someone like Hartley, Pressley or Neilson would be a good shout. They would know the inner workings of the jambos, their mindset and how they prepare for games against us thus giving us a psychological edge in the derby games.

Also, with 2 of those 3 having played for Celtic, one a captain and one a celtic fan, it would surely allow us to keep good relations with the east end of glasgow which has served us well in recent years...

Win Win all round...

Skacel? International experience to add to all the above.

[SMAXXA]

I’m actually past caring who’s getting the job as it’s irrelevant to me, will be judged on how they do regardless of name. I don’t understand those disappointed it’s not Appleton when a week ago he was nobody’s choice if we are honest it was the more people listened and read about him they convinced themselves he was the man. I feel neither good nor bad towards him or Heckingbottom for that matter and won’t write anyone off at this stage. Folk need to calm down total panic stations from some

[Hibbyradge]

Fingers crossed!! Like him a lot. Although as we all know, it's a FACT that he wasn't first choice.

Everyone down here thinks he's a dud. :boo hoo:

[SquashedFrogg]

I’m actually past caring who’s getting the job as it’s irrelevant to me, will be judged on how they do regardless of name. I don’t understand those disappointed it’s not Appleton when a week ago he was nobody’s choice if we are honest it was the more people listened and read about him they convinced themselves he was the man. I feel neither good nor bad towards him or Heckingbottom for that matter and won’t write anyone off at this stage. Folk need to calm down total panic stations from some

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[HibsTalk]

We don't try to be someone "In the know" couldn't not go with this one.

But can confirm a manager has been appointed and will be announced tomorrow.

Can't say who told us cos they'd stop telling me stuff which can be good for the pod, says it's not Appleton and believes it to be Heckingbottom

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[04Sauzee]

Alan Nixon also saying he doesn't think it will be Appleton and doesn't think it was the done deal that some were reporting.

[bingo70]

Alan Nixon also saying he doesn't think it will be Appleton and doesn't think it was the done deal that some were reporting.

By some he means his paper which is a bit strange.

[Montford]

Typical Hibs... Heckinbottom...
If we had 100’s of applications is someone telling me this insipid, uninspiring appointment was the best choice?
Scouring the out of work cast offs from English lower leagues..
Bottom 6 and 9000 crowds here we come..

[SquashedFrogg]

Everyone down here thinks he's a dud. :boo hoo:

Tbf I have no idea but after a bit of googling, listening to him online and the usual blind Hibby optimistim, I like him.

Who knows.

[04Sauzee]

By some he means his paper which is a bit strange.

Yeah he tweeted something after that as well which kind of contradicts his previous tweet. Oh well tomorrow may be the day.

[SquashedFrogg]

Typical Hibs... Heckinbottom...
If we had 100’s of applications is someone telling me this insipid, uninspiring appointment was the best choice?
Scouring the out of work cast offs from English lower leagues..
Bottom 6 and 9000 crowds here we come..

Who would you prefer?

[Hibeesmad]

By some he means his paper which is a bit strange.

Different journos publish different reports, I think the only thing he has published is Heckingbottom

[Hibeesmad]

Hope it is Heckingbottom.

[CapitalGreen]

Yeah he tweeted something after that as well which kind of contradicts his previous tweet. Oh well tomorrow may be the day.

Nixon is a slaver

[Hibeesmad]

We don't try to be someone "In the know" couldn't not go with this one.

But can confirm a manager has been appointed and will be announced tomorrow.

Can't say who told us cos they'd stop telling me stuff which can be good for the pod, says it's not Appleton and believes it to be Heckingbottom

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Hope they are right mate. Thanks for sharing.

[04Sauzee]

Typical Hibs... Heckinbottom...
If we had 100’s of applications is someone telling me this insipid, uninspiring appointment was the best choice?
Scouring the out of work cast offs from English lower leagues..
Bottom 6 and 9000 crowds here we come..

Not keen then 😂😂

[04Sauzee]

We don't try to be someone "In the know" couldn't not go with this one.

But can confirm a manager has been appointed and will be announced tomorrow.

Can't say who told us cos they'd stop telling me stuff which can be good for the pod, says it's not Appleton and believes it to be Heckingbottom

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Thanks for the info, sorry if I got your back up by saying I wasnt sure how reliable you were.

[Montford]

Who would you prefer?

I didn’t see the applicants so don’t know, but can bet there were a few with a better calibre and pedigree than this guy
The consensus around Scottish football and media seems to be the same.
Leaves me feeling utterly deflated after a good few years of having a spring in my step going up Albion Road

[sambajustice]

Everyone down here thinks he's a dud. :boo hoo:

Yup, all the Leeds fans i've spoken to haven't got a good word to say abut him. Neither have the Barnsley fans for that matter...

Can't say I think its an inspired appointment. It's more "Calderwood" than "Mowbray" for me...

[HibsTalk]

Thanks for the info, sorry if I got your back up by saying I wasnt sure how reliable you were.Not at all. Was always coming on to put something on here anyway [emoji4]

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[04Sauzee]

I didn’t see the applicants so don’t know, but can bet there were a few with a better calibre and pedigree than this guy
The consensus around Scottish football and media seems to be the same.
Leaves me feeling utterly deflated after a good few years of having a spring in my step going up Albion Road
I know a Barnsley fan who actually rates this guy highly. We talk alot about football so if he likes him it's good enough for me. I was warming to Appleton but if it's Heckingbottom then I'm right behind this appointment.

[tonyrougier123]

Typical Hibs... Heckinbottom...
If we had 100’s of applications is someone telling me this insipid, uninspiring appointment was the best choice?
Scouring the out of work cast offs from English lower leagues..
Bottom 6 and 9000 crowds here we come..

Im no feeling hecks either tbh.watched his interviews very uninspiring stuff.leeds fans were not impressed either.barnsley fans hated he jumped ship from his hometown club.very underwhelmed if true 👎

[Borderhibbie76]

To be fair some of the bed wetting and gnashing of teeth on here is nothing compared to what's posted on Twitter.Especially by those ridiculous Hibs News accounts...what utter weapons they are seriously

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[04Sauzee]

Yup, all the Leeds fans i've spoken to haven't got a good word to say abut him. Neither have the Barnsley fans for that matter...

Can't say I think its an inspired appointment. It's more "Calderwood" than "Mowbray" for me...

Posted this before but the Barnsley fan I know said this to me

Nice to hear from you! His style is high intensity pressing style (need very fit players for this!) a good manager, got us promoted from being in the relegation zone early dec to play offs and up via play offs.

He better not nick any of our players if he takes the job.

[Hibeesmad]

Especially by those ridiculous Hibs News accounts...what utter weapons they are seriously

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It’s a laugh eh 😂

[SquashedFrogg]

I didn’t see the applicants so don’t know, but can bet there were a few with a better calibre and pedigree than this guy
The consensus around Scottish football and media seems to be the same.
Leaves me feeling utterly deflated after a good few years of having a spring in my step going up Albion Road

But you said out of "100’s of applications is someone telling me this insipid, uninspiring appointment was the best choice".

I'm asking out of all the applicants who you would have preferred? And now you say you don't know who applied.

Forgive me then if I doubt your legitimacy.

[Lago]

Everyone down here thinks he's a dud. :boo hoo:

Oh really, is that a fact, why.

[Borderhibbie76]

Posted this before but the Barnsley fan I know said this to me

Nice to hear from you! His style is high intensity pressing style (need very fit players for this!) a good manager, got us promoted from being in the relegation zone early dec to play offs and up via play offs.

He better not nick any of our players if he takes the job.Ha funny that as some would have us believe he's useless and the poor guy hasn't even been confirmed yet!! Appleton seems to have become Sauzee reincarnated in some fans eyes yet a week ago none of us had heard of him. Whoever it is deserves our full support and time to turn us around - Lennon (despite his hero worship with some of our support) hasn't left us in as strong a position squad wise as what he inherited that's for sure

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[Unseen work]

Talks with Heckingbottom now stalled too.... https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/paul-heckingbottom-hibs-stalls-club-13991607

[Hibbyradge]

Oh really, is that a fact, why.

They're all Leeds fans and he didn't do well with them so I guess that's the main reason.

They also think the style of football was poor.

I'm going to the game with a Scottish Leeds fan tomorrow, so I'll press him for more.

Regardless of who we get, of course, I'll probably be one of those defending him if/when others lose their patience.

Hopefully that won't happen though.

[04Sauzee]

Ha funny that as some would have us believe he's useless and the poor guy hasn't even been confirmed yet!! Appleton seems to have become Sauzee reincarnated in some fans eyes yet a week ago none of us had heard of him. Whoever it is deserves our full support and time to turn us around - Lennon (despite his hero worship with some of our support) hasn't left us in as strong a position squad wise as what he inherited that's for sure

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Like I say it's small sample group 😂 it's just a very good friend of mine who supports Barnsley and although he now lives up here he still gets to games.

Whoever we get in will be a risk and it's a shame that he's being written off in some quarters already.

[04Sauzee]

Talks with Heckingbottom now stalled too.... https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/paul-heckingbottom-hibs-stalls-club-13991607

😂😂

[Hibbyradge]

Talks with Heckingbottom now stalled too.... https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/paul-heckingbottom-hibs-stalls-club-13991607

Sounds like the press are systematically stirring things up to me.

I smell Tom Kite.

[tamig]

Skacel? International experience to add to all the above.

And a new face for Behind the Goals. They’ll be queueing up ouside the FF.

[Frogga]

Have we not learned our lesson that being tight can have even larger financial consequences long-term? This is really frustrating.

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[Borderhibbie76]

Sounds like the press are systematically stirring things up to me.

I smell Tom Kite.If that Rag told me it was 2019...id check my calendar mate

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[SquashedFrogg]

Talks with Heckingbottom now stalled too.... https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/paul-heckingbottom-hibs-stalls-club-13991607

Maybe just me, but after the initial defence of Lennon from the red tops, perhaps there's a slight agenda on how we appoint our next man?

Perhaps muddying the waters?

[Heisenberg]

Being reported that talks with Heckingbottom not going well either. The Sun saying we couldn’t agree a severance amount to be included in Appleton’s contract and also wouldn’t give him relocation costs (although I’m sure we put Lennon up in a house?).

[SquashedFrogg]

Sounds like the press are systematically stirring things up to me.

I smell Tom Kite.

This 100%

[Hibeesmad]

Heckingbottom now 1/4 favourite with Sky bet

[Unseen work]

If it’s any consolation, Dean Holden is someone that would excite me.

Mentioned it previously, but him with Jamie Mcallister as his assistant.

[Hibeesmad]

Being reported that talks with Heckingbottom not going well either. The Sun saying we couldn’t agree a severance amount to be included in Appleton’s contract and also wouldn’t give him relocation costs (although I’m sure we put Lennon up in a house?).

Lennon lives in Glasgow

[tamig]

I didn’t see the applicants so don’t know, but can bet there were a few with a better calibre and pedigree than this guy
The consensus around Scottish football and media seems to be the same.
Leaves me feeling utterly deflated after a good few years of having a spring in my step going up Albion Road

So its a burst baw from you but you don’t even know who’s getting the gig yet? Makes sense. Great spirit.