New manager thread

[The 90+2]

https://twitter.com/ScotsFootyCards/status/945742587029319685

Article from 1987.

Thanks :aok:

[The 90+2]

That's not Steve Clarke speaking though. He's said he's a Kilmarnock fan before he got the Killie job.


He is a Killie fan.


Is he?

I thought Killie were always his team.

Stand corrected if the card is correct. Sorry guys.

[Stonewall]

I’m sure I read he grew up supporting Celtic but his brother who’s a big Killie fan convinced him to take the job.

A Celtic supporting friend of mine was at school with him and says he was definitely a a Killie fan.

[SuperSirJMcginn]

I spent a while on forums and youtube yesterday and didn't get a vibe from any of the fans of clubs he had left that he was that much of a loss. Others have said it's very uninspiring and I have to agree. In his interview he can certainly talk the talk the reality is often much worse and more than one fan saying he always played his favourites despite obvious failings.
We have a genuinely talented mix of players and the blend just isn't right. Maybe thats what was pushing NL over the edge all the time.

We can certainly make top six still.

This appointment is critical. It needs stability and someone who won't need to be shown all the inner workings and where the toilets are. We dont have time.
Stubbs knows where the toilets are and a temp position would work for me.

Like Ole Gunnerwhatshisname

What happened with Michael O'neil? Is he in the mix again?
Or Player manager Adam Le Fondre


As i said yesterday a temporary manager would be our best option. Lets not panic and appoint another Fenlon ect. Lets keep things simple and appoint someone who knows the club and the league. I would also like someone young that commands the respect from the players. kenny miller/canning both available and could come in and steady the ship, just like Ole at Man u.

[SquashedFrogg]

As i said yesterday a temporary manager would be our best option. Lets not panic and appoint another Fenlon ect. Lets keep things simple and appoint someone who knows the club and the league. I would also like someone young that commands the respect from the players. kenny miller/canning both available and could come in and steady the ship, just like Ole at Man u.

I've moved from a temp manager to tide us over, to (if possible) a full appointment.

For me, we need a new man in now, working to get things moving for next season. Get ideas across, arranging players in and out.

I get the 'steadying the ship' idea but come the summer we will be back at square one.

[Hibernian32]

If reports are to be believed it seems Heckingbottom is our man. I know next to nothing about him so whilst not being overly excited its only fair to give the guy a chance.

There has been talk about him wanting an assistant with knowledge of the Scottish leagues, would we be happy with Grant Murray being that man?
Ian Murray?

[bigwheel]

I've moved from a temp manager to tide us over, to (if possible) a full appointment.

For me, we need a new man in now, working to get things moving for next season. Get ideas across, arranging players in and out.

I get the 'steadying the ship' idea but come the summer we will be back at square one.


feels like thats the way the club are going - doesn't it..the fact they are interviewing new names - or else I'm sure we would have had the "safe hands" in already

[04Sauzee]

Ian Murray?

Will be interesting to find out who he goes with regarding local knowledge, there are a few names out there but can't think of to many impressive candidates

Stevie C
Grant Murray
Danny Lennon :confused:
Ian Murray like you mention


Has Fontaine done his badges :greengrin

[SquashedFrogg]

feels like thats the way the club are going - doesn't it..the fact they are interviewing new names - or else I'm sure we would have had the "safe hands" in already

Agreed. I don't think it would have taken too long to get someone in short term.

You never know, they might find someone who, for whatever reason, can't come until the summer,but it looks like a perm appointment is the plan.

As I say, I like this as it gives everyone time to re-group and get plans in place for next season.

Although clearly there's a lot of work to do for the remainder of this season first of all.

[stantonsboots]

M.A

[GloryGlory]

Will be interesting to find out who he goes with regarding local knowledge, there are a few names out there but can't think of to many impressive candidates

Stevie C
Grant Murray
Danny Lennon :confused:
Ian Murray like you mention


Has Fontaine done his badges :greengrin

What are Billy Brown or Maurice Malpas up to these days? :devil:

[04Sauzee]

M.A
Michael Appleton? What about him?

[04Sauzee]

What are Bobby Brown or Maurice Malpas up to these days? :devil:
Billy Brown? Names that fill with fear

[bigwheel]

Billy Brown? Names that fill with fear


that would be worth a thread of its own - Manager names that fill us with fear :)

[GloryGlory]

Billy Brown? Names that fill with fear

Yes - Billy.

Realised that and changed it. :greengrin Mind you, when you're trying hard to forget, these threads bring it all back!

[matty_f]

M.A

Give us less information.

[sean04]

I'm quite intrigued by heckingbottom. Done well at Barnsley and didn't work at Leeds. Comes across very educated and knowledgeable in interviews. People jumping on his Leeds record have to remember we can't go and take a Eddie Howe from Bournemouth or some1 who has there team flying. Derek mcinnes was sacked by Bristol city and he's done no bad up here. Clarke was only an assistant. Gerard hasn't done anything in management. Levien has never won a egg and spoon race. This guy is young, won a trophy and playoff final. This guy is defo worth a shot. Get right behind him and see what the Hibs rollercoaster can dish up

[Lago]

As i said yesterday a temporary manager would be our best option. Lets not panic and appoint another Fenlon ect. Lets keep things simple and appoint someone who knows the club and the league. I would also like someone young that commands the respect from the players. kenny miller/canning both available and could come in and steady the ship, just like Ole at Man u.
I differ from you, I want someone out with the Scottish scene, fed up seeing the same old names being recycled every time there's a vacancy. Full time appointment now to get up to speed for next season, hopefully have a good cup run under the new manager to bring all the fans on board.

[stantonsboots]

Michael Appleton? What about him?
spot on

[bingo70]

I'm quite intrigued by heckingbottom. Done well at Barnsley and didn't work at Leeds. Comes across very educated and knowledgeable in interviews. People jumping on his Leeds record have to remember we can't go and take a Eddie Howe from Bournemouth or some1 who has there team flying. Derek mcinnes was sacked by Bristol city and he's done no bad up here. Clarke was only an assistant. Gerard hasn't done anything in management. Levien has never won a egg and spoon race. This guy is young, won a trophy and playoff final. This guy is defo worth a shot. Get right behind him and see what the Hibs rollercoaster can dish up

After listening to that Podcast I’m all for him getting the job.

I think he’s got all the hallmarks of a modern progressive coach. I thought before he wasn’t the most adventurous appointment but the more I think about it the more I think the likes of Strachan or Stubbs would be the lazy option. This guy will have a long term plan and vision and with the right support I think it could be an exciting appointment.

Someone mentioned Rodgers having a couple of black marks on his CV and I think there’s similarities there.

Besides, if he doesn’t get the job now I’ll have wasted an hour listening to a podcast with no relevance to me.

[Lago]

:greengrin:aok:
After listening to that Podcast I’m all for him getting the job.

I think he’s got all the hallmarks of a modern progressive coach. I thought before he wasn’t the most adventurous appointment but the more I think about it the more I think the likes of Strachan or Stubbs would be the lazy option. This guy will have a long term plan and vision and with the right support I think it could be an exciting appointment.

Someone mentioned Rodgers having a couple of black marks on his CV and I think there’s similarities there.

Besides, if he doesn’t get the job now I’ll have wasted an hour listening to a podcast with no relevance to me.

[SHODAN]

spot on

So is he getting the job or not?

[SloopJB]

spot on

Flea collar

[Tobias Funke]

So is he getting the job or not?

The only people who know for sure who might or might not be getting the Hibs job are the board. Anything on here is conjecture and its highly unlikely you'll find anything on this forum confirming who the next Hibs manager is unless its straight from the club.

I'd just wait till we have our guy standing in front of the press with a green and white scarf above his head. :aok:

[ahibby]

I have just spent the last hour listening to an in depth interview with Paul Heckingbottom in which he speaks about his experiences with Barnsley & Leeds and shares what he thinks is important in management, tactics & recruitment. If you listen to it you will have a more informed opinion about whether you want him at Hibs or not.

The links are below and the topics & timecodes are in the description. Enjoy and tell us what you think of The Heck :aok:

SC: https://soundcloud.com/ntt20pod/ntt20-pod-meets-paul-heckingbottom … (https://t.co/KH2eFYubOT)

iT: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/not-the-top-20-podcast/id1112915286?mt=2 … (https://t.co/Wfirs5gygj)

Okay he has a good background in the game from youth player upwards and that's a positive. He also has first team coaching experience and sounds like he is choosey about taking up opportunities. I understand his reasons for not taking opportunities in the past and I'm sure that Hibs do not fall in to the category of a club who he would refuse an offer from, if one came his way. That's a positive. Of course he's untried in our league and perhaps in our ways, if they differ from League 1 and Championship. Having listened to him I think he would impress our people in an interview, his values seem aligned to our boards values.

I think he'll do me. I'll keep in mind that a lot of success depends on what other clubs in the league do. In other words the success of a coach doesn't just depend on their ability, but luck will play a part. If that's true then he should be a good to very good candidate and I'd keep my fingers crossed for him.

[Cabbage East]

M.A


So much information in this post I’m overwhelmed.

[stantonsboots]

So is he getting the job or not?i'm hearing its 95% done?

[Franck Stanton]

Okay,seems he is odds on for the gig, what about Stubbsy as his assistant? Better than being unemloyed, knows the Club and Scottish game

[Stevie Reid]

.

[Weir07]

M.A

I really hope it's not him, he seems a strange guy, at some point in his managerial career be seemed to massively pump himself up and completely cover both arms in tattoos, not something that disqualifies him from the job but think it was an odd thing to do for somebody of his age. Also, apart from Oxford, he doesn't seem to have lasted for any length of time at any of the clubs he's managed, although to be fair his win percentage at Oxford is decent.

[ahibby]

Okay,seems he is odds on for the gig, what about Stubbsy as his assistant? Better than being unemloyed, knows the Club and Scottish game

Are you sure who is being referred to PH or MA?

[Nutmegged]

Kevin Thomson as his assistant or at least his No.3

[The 90+2]

Appleton coming shorter in the market. 7/4 now.

[SquashedFrogg]

Kevin Thomson as his assistant or at least his No.3

I'll keep an open mind but genuinely hope not.

[SquashedFrogg]

Appleton coming shorter in the market. 7/4 now.

Does this mean I've got another podcast to get through?

[Michael]

Kevin Thomson as his assistant or at least his No.3

Be interesting to see how KT would do as a manager actually.

[1620]

Okay he has a good background in the game from youth player upwards and that's a positive. He also has first team coaching experience and sounds like he is choosey about taking up opportunities. I understand his reasons for not taking opportunities in the past and I'm sure that Hibs do not fall in to the category of a club who he would refuse an offer from, if one came his way. That's a positive. Of course he's untried in our league and perhaps in our ways, if they differ from League 1 and Championship. Having listened to him I think he would impress our people in an interview, his values seem aligned to our boards values.

I think he'll do me. I'll keep in mind that a lot of success depends on what other clubs in the league do. In other words the success of a coach doesn't just depend on their ability, but luck will play a part. If that's true then he should be a good to very good candidate and I'd keep my fingers crossed for him.

I too have listened to the podcast and like what I hear.
He seems to have a style of play he prefers but it is not rigid and he seems able to vary formations on the pitch dependent on the opposition and still achieve the desired outcomes. He also appears to prefer robust strong players, which I like but which we lack in a good number of positions at the moment.
From what I know of the other candidates he would be my preference at the moment.
For an assistant with knowledge of the Scottish game what about Kenny Miller?

[The 90+2]

Does this mean I've got another podcast to get through?

Haha. Get Si Ferry in as assistant.

[Famous Fiver]

There's only one man with anywhere near the experience and inside knowledge to be appointed assistant manager.

Come on down, Tam McCourt!!

[K.Marx]

A lot of obsession about win ratios in this thread. Never really noticed it so much before. Surely you need to look at the overall merits of someone rather than one ratio? If we got relegated to league 1, the manager in charge could end up with our greatest ever win ratio, but doesn’t automatically make him our best ever manager.

Looked up Mowbrays and his win ratio at Celtic is better than it was at hibs, for obvious reasons. However he was a relative flop at Celtic but a success at Easter road.

Need to look at the bigger picture I think.

[eastmainsmsh]

There's only one man with anywhere near the experience and inside knowledge to be appointed assistant manager.

Come on down, Tam McCourt!!

Tam would do better than some of the candidates

[Hibeesmad]

Bookies have it between Appleton and Heckingbottom. Heckingbottom 5/6 favourite with Sky Bet, Appleton 10/11 favourite with Paddy Power

[SHODAN]

I'd take Appleton 100%. Seems like a good coach.

[LancsHibs]

Bookies have it between Appleton and Heckingbottom. Heckingbottom 5/6 favourite with Sky Bet, Appleton 10/11 favourite with Paddy Power

😰

[The 90+2]

I'd take Appleton 100%. Seems like a good coach.

Didn’t he take loads of Scottish players down to Oxford, I agree he would be my choice out the two favs but I’ll be happy either way.

[Callum_62]

I know absolutely nothing about Michael Appleton

I doubt you work at EPL level without having something about you

[SHODAN]

Didn’t he take loads of Scottish players down to Oxford, I agree he would be my choice out the two favs but I’ll be happy either way.

During his time there he signed Alex MacDonald & Chris Maguire, they're the only Scottish players. He did sign Kane Hemmings and James Cowan from Dundee though, as well as Marvin Johnson from Motherwell.

[CapitalGreen]

I know absolutely nothing about Michael Appleton

I doubt you work at EPL level without having something about you

Ian Cathro and Colin Calderwood

[The 90+2]

During his time there he signed Alex MacDonald & Chris Maguire, they're the only Scottish players. He did sign Kane Hemmings and James Cowan from Dundee though, as well as Marvin Johnson from Motherwell.

Yeah meant Scottish based but thanks for that. Always liked him as a manager.

[Hibee87]

A lot of obsession about win ratios in this thread. Never really noticed it so much before. Surely you need to look at the overall merits of someone rather than one ratio? If we got relegated to league 1, the manager in charge could end up with our greatest ever win ratio, but doesn’t automatically make him our best ever manager.

Looked up Mowbrays and his win ratio at Celtic is better than it was at hibs, for obvious reasons. However he was a relative flop at Celtic but a success at Easter road.

Need to look at the bigger picture I think.

Steve Clarke had something like a 36% win rate before taking over at Killie. But its the Hibs way to bash any potential manager and singing based on a wiki stat. I think it makes the people who say it get that nice warm smug feeling for if they do fail they can say 'I told you so'

[hughio]

Bookies have it between Appleton and Heckingbottom. Heckingbottom 5/6 favourite with Sky Bet, Appleton 10/11 favourite with Paddy Power

Either would do me.
On balance I'd prefer Heckingbottom.
He has more fancy coaching credentials and less tattoos.
There you go Rod/Leanne.

Job done for you!

[stantonsboots]

appleton is almost certainly the new man!

[PaulSmith]

appleton is almost certainly the new man!

:agree:

[The 90+2]

appleton is almost certainly the new man!

Good shout by the way.

[Speedway]

You’d think he could afford some eyebrows but.

Mind you, you’ll enjoy this. Worth subscribing to read.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/m...well-prwdcsbq8

[Winston Ingram]

Appleton favourite at 10/11 with Paddy Power

[Not In The Know]

You’d think he could afford some eyebrows but.

Mind you, you’ll enjoy this. Worth subscribing to read.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/m...well-prwdcsbq8


any chance of a copy and paste?

[Speedway]

I wonder what Darnell Johnson thinks of this?

[SeanWilson]

I really hope it's not him, he seems a strange guy, at some point in his managerial career be seemed to massively pump himself up and completely cover both arms in tattoos, not something that disqualifies him from the job but think it was an odd thing to do for somebody of his age. Also, apart from Oxford, he doesn't seem to have lasted for any length of time at any of the clubs he's managed, although to be fair his win percentage at Oxford is decent.[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] has to be one of the most bizarre reasons to discount a potential candidate... 'really like what you've done in your career Michael, however due to the fact you love the gym and have some tattoos, we can't accept your application'.

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[craigiehibs]

any chance of a copy and paste?

Looks like appleton. Good track record when u look at it

[Speedway]

The summons came a month after Blackburn sacked him, Sir Alex Ferguson calling to say “come and see me”. Michael Appleton turned up at Carrington and asked Kath, the receptionist, what the meeting was about. “I don’t know, Michael,” she said. Then came a shout from upstairs. “He’s ready for you.”

Ferguson was working in his office. Does he want me to scout for him, Appleton wondered? A spot of coaching? Close the door, Michael. “He asked me to go round the other side of the room. Next thing you know, he went ‘right. YOU!’ And for 10 minutes he was shouting at me. ‘What have I told you?!’ On the way home,” Appleton recalls, “I must have phoned about six people. ‘I’ve just had an absolute rollicking off the boss.’”

Appleton played with Solskjaer in United’s reservesAppleton played with Solskjaer in United’s reserves
TONY MARSHALL/EMPICS SPORT
Appleton hadn’t played for Ferguson in 16 years and this was April 2013 — Ferguson was in the thick of trying to win one last league title. But he made time for that judicious hairdryer blast. “His message was all about doing your due diligence before taking jobs, how you should look at the owners, the chief exec, the chairman and before you say yes, work out whether you can achieve from a budgetary point of view what the club’s ambition is. It’s advice I pass on to younger coaches now,” Appleton says. “That [Ferguson] bothered to do that to me showed how much he cares. I text him all the time. When I left Leicester, if I had 50 texts his was one of the first dozen.”

Appleton is now doing what Ferguson advised: watching lots of games, doing broadcast and League Managers Association work, weighing carefully the offers. He has turned down a few and knows the type of club he wants: stable, ambitious, focused on development, perhaps offering a different challenge.

Oxford United were such a proposition when he took over following his mistake with Blackburn, and there he won a promotion, reached two Football League Trophy finals, enjoyed FA Cup runs and thought outside the box — using an ex-army officer as head of football logistics to help instill a strong culture at the club.


After reading Legacy, the seminal book on the All Blacks, while doing a Master of Sport Directorship degree, he wrote to its author, James Kerr. He visited Oxford to give a presentation. Culture is a particular interest and he’s watching what Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is restoring at Manchester United. From the year below the “Class of ’92”, Appleton was one of United’s top prospects when in the summer of 1996 a 23-year-old, yet baby-faced, Solskjaer arrived from Molde.

“I don’t know if you remember the Cliff [United’s former training ground],” he smiles. “The treatment room, you go up the stairs and do a right. There was six of us in there, YTS lads, scholars, lying on the treatment beds having a bit of banter. This kid walked in. We didn’t know but it was Ole. He’s standing at the door waiting and we thought it was just some 15-year-old schoolboy. We’re going ‘all right mate!’, looking away, smirking as you do. We’re royally taking the p*** out of him. We turn up for the game that afternoon — Oldham at Boundary Park, a reserves match — and the kid walks in again. We beat Oldham 6-0. He scores five.”

Like Roy Keane, the other half of an ‘odd couple’, a friendship between the pair formed. “Ole was a big thinker,” says Appleton, “and that’s why he’s done well, because of his thinking capacity.” He observes Solskjaer reinstalling so many Ferguson tenets: the sense of United as a family, the comeback spirit (seen in the 2-2 draw with Burnley in midweek), the counter-attacking daring he recalls first hearing from Ferguson’s genius youth coach Eric Harrison. “Eric said when you breakaway don’t come back. Just go.

“Another message Ole has got through is, if you look at Jesse [Lingard] and Marcus [Rashford] there’s no doubt the composure players show in the box has improved immeasurably. Ole himself as a striker was so cool and strategic. I used to say to him, you score so many goals through players’ legs and he said ‘yeah, because when you’re about to shoot, what do defenders do? They lift their legs to try and block. So I don’t have to shoot around them, I can score through them’.”

In summer 2017 Leicester City persuaded Appleton to leave Oxford and be Craig Shakespeare’s No 2 but sacked Shakespeare soon after. His relationship with the replacement, Claude Puel “didn’t click, for whatever reason. We had different philosophies, different ways we thought the team should play. It happens,” Appleton shrugs.

Appleton turned to coaching after a promising playing career was ended by injuryAppleton turned to coaching after a promising playing career was ended by injury
PAUL COOPER
“I can understand completely what Claude’s trying to do: evolve the team from being purely counterattack to one with more control of the game. But while Jamie Vardy is at the football club, I’m guessing Jamie Vardy will play — because of what he offers. So he’s got a player who thrives on being involved, and is one of the best in the last five or six years at getting behind teams, whereas in a possession side at times the centre-forward is not involved, and plays a lot with their back to goal. And the one thing that goes against him — and it’s easy for me to say this, sitting here in my kitchen — is that his best results come when he has least possession. Against the bigger teams, where they have a low block and break on transition, the Leicester of old.”

Appleton was in New York on the last day of his honeymoon when the club called to say Puel was replacing him. Now 43, he looks back at a young man in a hurry. He turned to coaching after injury ended his promising playing career. “My mindset was I had to be the youngest, I had to be the best. I remember saying to myself, I’ll get qualified quicker than anyone has ever done it, and I went from C Licence to Pro Licence with Management Diploma in six years.”

The self-improvement ethos remains — he’s learning Spanish — and he still uses what happened to him with injury. “I get across to players how important every single day is, every training session, get them to realise there might not be a next week.” Ferguson would approve.

[Brummie_Hibs]

Where is Duncan Ferguson on the bookies odds?

[04Sauzee]

Where is Duncan Ferguson on the bookies odds?

Not quoted, probably wouldn't want to work in Scotland?

[craigiehibs]

[QUOTE=Brummie_Hibs;5699271]Where is Duncan Ferguson on the bookies odds?[/QUOTE

Thanks speedway. Beyond my ken to do that. Heard via a player last nite it looks like MA. Looks good to me from what he achieved at oxford

[Hibee87]

Not quoted, probably wouldn't want to work in Scotland?

I would say its more to do with him not being a manager, anywhere, ever.

[Brummie_Hibs]

I would say its more to do with him not being a manager, anywhere, ever.
Just like Alan Stubbs

[Vault Boy]

Like what I've heard about Appleton, apparently likes to play passing football.

[Heisenberg]

Appleton now taken over as the favourite with the bookies.

[bingo70]

Like what I've heard about Appleton, apparently likes to play passing football.

Where is he from? Manchester?

[Weir07]

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] has to be one of the most bizarre reasons to discount a potential candidate... 'really like what you've done in your career Michael, however due to the fact you love the gym and have some tattoos, we can't accept your application'.

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Just think it's an odd thing to do when you're a professional manager and in your late 30's but I suppose each to their own. He'd had a couple of manager gigs before his transformation, remember at the time thinking it strange, he went from looking like a normal guy to a club bouncer, sort of thing a young man trying to prove himself would do.

On a positive note, Scott Allan thinks he's like Stubbsy, so maybe not a bad choice.


https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/scott-allan-checks-hibs-says-3920801

[CMurdoch]

Looks like appleton. Good track record when u look at it

When you look at what?

Manager of Portsmouth for 1 season in the Championship - Relegated
Next season gets the managers job at Blackpool, stays there for 2 months then moves to Blackburn, lasts a further 2 months before being sacked.
Out of work for a year before managing Oxford in Division 2, finished mid table in his first season, promoted the following season and finished mid table in Division 1 in his third season.
He was then appointed assistant manager at Leicester and lasted a season in which the manager was sacked and the new manager kicked him into touch.

All in all a mess apart from one promotion from the bottom league in English football.

Heckenbottom is the superior candidate.

[HibeeHibernian4]

Glass half empty with you eh Mr Murdoch?

[we are hibs]

With no rationale behind it I like the sound of Appleton more than Heckingbottom

[Heisenberg]

When you look at what?

Manager of Portsmouth for 1 season in the Championship - Relegated
Next season gets the managers job at Blackpool, stays there for 2 months then moves to Blackburn, lasts a further 2 months before being sacked.
Out of work for a year before managing Oxford in Division 2, finished mid table in his first season, promoted the following season and finished mid table in Division 1 in his third season.
He was then appointed assistant manager at Leicester and lasted a season in which the manager was sacked and the new manager kicked him into touch.

All in all a mess apart from one promotion from the bottom league in English football.

Heckenbottom is the superior candidate.

He also took Oxford to Wembley twice. The article referred to earlier shows a wee chat with Sir Alex sorted him out regarding the jobs he was taking on. Pompey, Blackpool and Blackburn were all a shambles off the park when he was in charge.

Getting Oxford to the middle of League One from the bottom end of League Two seems pretty good to me.

[craigiehibs]

Glass half empty with you eh Mr Murdoch?

No wonder i read and dont post cm. U missed the 3 years at oxford, promoted, 2 cup finals. Mentored by sir AF. Cup wins over nufc and swanaea and SIX other higher league teams. Went to leicester and WELL respected there. What realistically u want CM. Are u ever +ve??,,,

[scuttle]

Checked both on Wikipedia and its a toss up between the two. Knowing Hibs though thy will probably announce Scott Gemmell

[Stevie Reid]

I'd be happy with PH, but the prospect of Appleton has gotten me a bit excited, which I wasn't before.

[CMurdoch]

He also took Oxford to Wembley twice. The article referred to earlier shows a wee chat with Sir Alex sorted him out regarding the jobs he was taking on. Pompey, Blackpool and Blackburn were all a shambles off the park when he was in charge.

Getting Oxford to the middle of League One from the bottom end of League Two seems pretty good to me.

Took Oxford to Wembley twice and lost both. Don't wanna be startin' that again :wink:.

Time will tell.
Think we will have an appointment and flag above the head, press conference etc by next Tuesday.

[Lee Marvin]

I'm hearing it's Appleton. Was brilliant at Oxford, so quite pleased with this

[04Sauzee]

Lots of people Hearing Appleton, where are they hearing this? Just so I can tune in

[CMurdoch]

No wonder i read and dont post cm. U missed the 3 years at oxford, promoted, 2 cup finals. Mentored by sir AF. Cup wins over nufc and swanaea and SIX other higher league teams. Went to leicester and WELL respected there. What realistically u want CM. Are u ever +ve??,,,

Took Oxford to Wembley twice and lost both. Don't wanna be startin' that again :wink:.
Given a 15 minute row by Sir AF for being a duffus.
Promoted from a pub league :rolleyes:.
Told to GTF by Claude Puel.
It's the way you tell 'em :agree:.

[craigiehibs]

I'm hearing it's Appleton. Was brilliant at Oxford, so quite pleased with this

Thank the lord for some sanity

[S4uzee]

Lots of people Hearing Appleton, where are they hearing this? Just so I can tune in

Hope not. We need someone with knowledge of the Scottish game, it’s essential

[Lee Marvin]

When you look at what?

Manager of Portsmouth for 1 season in the Championship - Relegated
Next season gets the managers job at Blackpool, stays there for 2 months then moves to Blackburn, lasts a further 2 months before being sacked.
Out of work for a year before managing Oxford in Division 2, finished mid table in his first season, promoted the following season and finished mid table in Division 1 in his third season.
He was then appointed assistant manager at Leicester and lasted a season in which the manager was sacked and the new manager kicked him into touch.

All in all a mess apart from one promotion from the bottom league in English football.

Heckenbottom is the superior candidate.

Tbf, I think we should let LD decide who is the superior candidate.

[Lee Marvin]

Hope not. We need someone with knowledge of the Scottish game, it’s essential

It's essential?!? :faf:

Preferable - probably! Essential - nonsense!!

[B.H.F.C]

Hope not. We need someone with knowledge of the Scottish game, it’s essential

Like Steve Clarke had?

[Heisenberg]

Took Oxford to Wembley twice and lost both. Don't wanna be startin' that again :wink:.
Given a 15 minute row by Sir AF for being a duffus.
Promoted from a pub league :rolleyes:.
Told to GTF by Claude Puel.
It's the way you tell 'em :agree:.

Promoted from a pub league? Eh...ok. It was the first time in 20 years that Oxford had been promoted. He did a fantastic job there. You calling it a pub league doesn’t change that fact.

Claude Puel and Appleton didn’t agree on how to set up the team. Seems fair that he left the club so Puel could get his own man in.

[CapitalGreen]

I'm holding off to see who the favourite is tomorrow.

Sunday - Doolan
Monday - Magilton
Tuesday - Heckingbottam
Wednesday - Appleton
Thursday - ??

[craigiehibs]

Tbf, I think we should let LD decide who is the superior candidate.

Pardon me for posting what i know/heard. Looking fwd to ma restricted view

[CropleyWasGod]

I'm holding off to see who the favourite is tomorrow.

Sunday - Doolan
Monday - Magilton
Tuesday - Heckingbottam
Wednesday - Appleton
Thursday - ??

Kernaghan :greengrin

[04Sauzee]

Hope not. We need someone with knowledge of the Scottish game, it’s essential

So someone who is either Scottish or worked in the Scottish game?

Mixu
Williamson
Hughes
Him we shall not speak of 😂

[Lee Marvin]

Pardon me for posting what i know/heard. Looking fwd to ma restricted view

Excuse me?

[Lago]

I really hope it's not him, he seems a strange guy, at some point in his managerial career be seemed to massively pump himself up and completely cover both arms in tattoos, not something that disqualifies him from the job but think it was an odd thing to do for somebody of his age. Also, apart from Oxford, he doesn't seem to have lasted for any length of time at any of the clubs he's managed, although to be fair his win percentage at Oxford is decent.
Who are you referring to ?

[Speedway]

I'm holding off to see who the favourite is tomorrow.

Sunday - Doolan
Monday - Magilton
Tuesday - Heckingbottam
Wednesday - Appleton
Thursday - ??

Stuart Baxter

[CapitalGreen]

Kernaghan :greengrin

I was more in favour of Davie Hay at that time.

[DC_Hibs]

Who are you referring to ?

Roy Hodgson of course.

[Smartie]

I'm holding off to see who the favourite is tomorrow.

Sunday - Doolan
Monday - Magilton
Tuesday - Heckingbottam
Wednesday - Appleton
Thursday - ??

Friday Peter Ndlovu?

[blackpoolhibs]

I really dont give a toss who it is out of those names mentioned, as i dont know nearly enough about their circumstances and conditions they worked in.

Apart from Appleton when he was at Blackpool, even i could have told him to stay away from that basket case of a club.

[S4uzee]

So someone who is either Scottish or worked in the Scottish game?

Mixu
Williamson
Hughes
Him we shall not speak of 😂

Stubbs/Lennon both successful. Mowbray had knowledge of it as did Collins. Hughes also qualified for Europe

[sauzee6_2]

Hope not. We need someone with knowledge of the Scottish game, it’s essential

Why??

Is the ball a different size in England? Are there different rules? Pitch different size?

[Lago]

The summons came a month after Blackburn sacked him, Sir Alex Ferguson calling to say “come and see me”. Michael Appleton turned up at Carrington and asked Kath, the receptionist, what the meeting was about. “I don’t know, Michael,” she said. Then came a shout from upstairs. “He’s ready for you.”

Ferguson was working in his office. Does he want me to scout for him, Appleton wondered? A spot of coaching? Close the door, Michael. “He asked me to go round the other side of the room. Next thing you know, he went ‘right. YOU!’ And for 10 minutes he was shouting at me. ‘What have I told you?!’ On the way home,” Appleton recalls, “I must have phoned about six people. ‘I’ve just had an absolute rollicking off the boss.’”

Appleton played with Solskjaer in United’s reservesAppleton played with Solskjaer in United’s reserves
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Appleton hadn’t played for Ferguson in 16 years and this was April 2013 — Ferguson was in the thick of trying to win one last league title. But he made time for that judicious hairdryer blast. “His message was all about doing your due diligence before taking jobs, how you should look at the owners, the chief exec, the chairman and before you say yes, work out whether you can achieve from a budgetary point of view what the club’s ambition is. It’s advice I pass on to younger coaches now,” Appleton says. “That [Ferguson] bothered to do that to me showed how much he cares. I text him all the time. When I left Leicester, if I had 50 texts his was one of the first dozen.”

Appleton is now doing what Ferguson advised: watching lots of games, doing broadcast and League Managers Association work, weighing carefully the offers. He has turned down a few and knows the type of club he wants: stable, ambitious, focused on development, perhaps offering a different challenge.

Oxford United were such a proposition when he took over following his mistake with Blackburn, and there he won a promotion, reached two Football League Trophy finals, enjoyed FA Cup runs and thought outside the box — using an ex-army officer as head of football logistics to help instill a strong culture at the club.


After reading Legacy, the seminal book on the All Blacks, while doing a Master of Sport Directorship degree, he wrote to its author, James Kerr. He visited Oxford to give a presentation. Culture is a particular interest and he’s watching what Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is restoring at Manchester United. From the year below the “Class of ’92”, Appleton was one of United’s top prospects when in the summer of 1996 a 23-year-old, yet baby-faced, Solskjaer arrived from Molde.

“I don’t know if you remember the Cliff [United’s former training ground],” he smiles. “The treatment room, you go up the stairs and do a right. There was six of us in there, YTS lads, scholars, lying on the treatment beds having a bit of banter. This kid walked in. We didn’t know but it was Ole. He’s standing at the door waiting and we thought it was just some 15-year-old schoolboy. We’re going ‘all right mate!’, looking away, smirking as you do. We’re royally taking the p*** out of him. We turn up for the game that afternoon — Oldham at Boundary Park, a reserves match — and the kid walks in again. We beat Oldham 6-0. He scores five.”

Like Roy Keane, the other half of an ‘odd couple’, a friendship between the pair formed. “Ole was a big thinker,” says Appleton, “and that’s why he’s done well, because of his thinking capacity.” He observes Solskjaer reinstalling so many Ferguson tenets: the sense of United as a family, the comeback spirit (seen in the 2-2 draw with Burnley in midweek), the counter-attacking daring he recalls first hearing from Ferguson’s genius youth coach Eric Harrison. “Eric said when you breakaway don’t come back. Just go.

“Another message Ole has got through is, if you look at Jesse [Lingard] and Marcus [Rashford] there’s no doubt the composure players show in the box has improved immeasurably. Ole himself as a striker was so cool and strategic. I used to say to him, you score so many goals through players’ legs and he said ‘yeah, because when you’re about to shoot, what do defenders do? They lift their legs to try and block. So I don’t have to shoot around them, I can score through them’.”

In summer 2017 Leicester City persuaded Appleton to leave Oxford and be Craig Shakespeare’s No 2 but sacked Shakespeare soon after. His relationship with the replacement, Claude Puel “didn’t click, for whatever reason. We had different philosophies, different ways we thought the team should play. It happens,” Appleton shrugs.

Appleton turned to coaching after a promising playing career was ended by injuryAppleton turned to coaching after a promising playing career was ended by injury
PAUL COOPER
“I can understand completely what Claude’s trying to do: evolve the team from being purely counterattack to one with more control of the game. But while Jamie Vardy is at the football club, I’m guessing Jamie Vardy will play — because of what he offers. So he’s got a player who thrives on being involved, and is one of the best in the last five or six years at getting behind teams, whereas in a possession side at times the centre-forward is not involved, and plays a lot with their back to goal. And the one thing that goes against him — and it’s easy for me to say this, sitting here in my kitchen — is that his best results come when he has least possession. Against the bigger teams, where they have a low block and break on transition, the Leicester of old.”

Appleton was in New York on the last day of his honeymoon when the club called to say Puel was replacing him. Now 43, he looks back at a young man in a hurry. He turned to coaching after injury ended his promising playing career. “My mindset was I had to be the youngest, I had to be the best. I remember saying to myself, I’ll get qualified quicker than anyone has ever done it, and I went from C Licence to Pro Licence with Management Diploma in six years.”

The self-improvement ethos remains — he’s learning Spanish — and he still uses what happened to him with injury. “I get across to players how important every single day is, every training session, get them to realise there might not be a next week.” Ferguson would approve.
Seems like the real deal, happy with this.

[Hibbyradge]

The Leeds fan who I know was utterly scathing about Heckingbottom when I told him that he had been linked with us.

I'm going to see Leeds v Swansea with him next week and he told me not to mention his name to anyone else at Elland Road!

This speculation business isn't good for you.

[Tobias Funke]

Glass half empty with you eh Mr Murdoch?

Also started a now deleted thread today about a Hibs fan up in court for attacking a Hearts fan.

Username a complete donkey of an ex player.

Deep undercover Jambo troll this guy.

[Leitherhibs]

Stuart Baxter

Nevio Scala!!!

[Musselbound]

When you look at what?

Manager of Portsmouth for 1 season in the Championship - Relegated
Next season gets the managers job at Blackpool, stays there for 2 months then moves to Blackburn, lasts a further 2 months before being sacked.
Out of work for a year before managing Oxford in Division 2, finished mid table in his first season, promoted the following season and finished mid table in Division 1 in his third season.
He was then appointed assistant manager at Leicester and lasted a season in which the manager was sacked and the new manager kicked him into touch.

All in all a mess apart from one promotion from the bottom league in English football.

Heckenbottom is the superior candidate.

i agree with you. Heckingbottom sounds decent to me but Appleton seems like chaos wherever he goes, except for a 3-year stint at Oxford.

[CapitalGreen]

i agree with you. Heckingbottom sounds decent to me but Appleton seems like chaos wherever he goes, except for a 3-year stint at Oxford.

Not massively fussed for either but in fairness to Appleton, Blackpool, Blackburn and Portsmouth were in chaos before his arrival.

[matty_f]

If we delete a post don't just repost it elsewhere.

Thanks in advance.

[Kato]

i agree with you. Heckingbottom sounds decent to me but Appleton seems like chaos wherever he goes, except for a 3-year stint at Oxford.

Have you looked any deeper into the "chaos" for signs that some factor other than Appleton may have been at it's root?

[Greenbeard]

So if Hecking Bottom is fading out the picture and it's a choice between Holden or Appleton, I'd go for Amanda over Nicole. Michaela is past it.

[BILLYHIBS]

Enough is enough forget all the dodgy English nearly men and wannabes send for Strachan an auld heid that knows the club to steady the ship

[SHODAN]

Whoever it is, get him in and keep us in the cup.

[eastcoasthibby]

Whoever it is, get him in and keep us in the cup.

And away from a relegation battle !!!

[Gmack7]

Enough is enough forget all the dodgy English nearly men and wannabes send for Strachan an auld heid that knows the club to steady the ship

Here's hoping,

[Keyser Sauzee]

And away from a relegation battle !!!

We’re nowhere near a relegation battle

[Hibbyradge]

Enough is enough forget all the dodgy English nearly men and wannabes send for Strachan an auld heid that knows the club to steady the ship

He's not interested.

[Musselbound]

Have you looked any deeper into the "chaos" for signs that some factor other than Appleton may have been at it's root?

No, but it doesn't look a great management CV. And he's only lasted longer than a season in one job. Is it not possible that he is a factor in that? It concerns me in terms of our stability.

[Northernhibee]

Enough is enough forget all the dodgy English nearly men and wannabes send for Strachan an auld heid that knows the club to steady the ship

Last auld heid we had got us relegated.

[Cameron1875]

Paul Heckingbottom would be an absolute disaster. No no no Hibs. Apparently plays physical football and completely snaked Barnsley!

Appleton has a patchy managerial record but I like the interview above and he seems to have his head screwed on now with jobs.

This appointment seems to have old school Hibs vibes which worries me. Hopefully Leann can make the right decision because the club is heading into a downward spiral again.

[eastmainsmsh]

Hopefully rod has 500k on Stubbs at 16s then he can replace McGinn Mcgeoch and co

[matty_f]

We’re nowhere near a relegation battle

That's what a lot of us (including me) said when we ended up being relegated.

[Hibeesmad]

Eddie May said after the game that the people conducting the interviews came back today. So hopefully we can except an announcement in the next day or two

[Callum_62]

Eddie May said after the game that the people conducting the interviews came back today. So hopefully we can except an announcement in the next day or two

Did Eddie mention if he wanted the job?

:wink:

[CapitalGreen]

That's what a lot of us (including me) said when we ended up being relegated.

For us to go 2nd bottom, Dundee would need to get more points in the remaining 13 games than they’ve managed in the previous 25 while we get no more points from now until the end of the season.

[jacomo]

That's what a lot of us (including me) said when we ended up being relegated.


It’s true this time. We aren’t in a relegation battle.

[matty_f]

For us to go 2nd bottom, Dundee would need to get more points in the remaining 13 games than they’ve managed in the previous 25 while we get no more points from now until the end of the season.

Look, if i'd wanted facts before making an ill-informed and, with hindsight, ill-judged flippant post, I'd have asked for them. :greengrin

[K-Zazu]

Strachan on the debate on Sky they were just talking about Hibs no chance he’s coming here

[Colin191078]

i agree with you. Heckingbottom sounds decent to me but Appleton seems like chaos wherever he goes, except for a 3-year stint at Oxford.

Heckingbottom will be in Edinburgh tomorrow to give a presentation to the Hibs board to put across his case for the job, hope it goes well, I’ve got £20 at 20’s

[HoboHarry]

Look, if i'd wanted facts before making an ill-informed and, with hindsight, ill-judged flippant post, I'd have asked for them. :greengrin
Aff tae yer bed wi' ye ya scoundrel......

[Hibeesmad]

Heckingbottom will be in Edinburgh tomorrow to give a presentation to the Hibs board to put across his case for the job, hope it goes well, I’ve got £20 at 20’s

Hope it comes in for you mate. I’ve got him at 7/2

[The_Horde]

Heckingbottom will be in Edinburgh tomorrow to give a presentation to the Hibs board to put across his case for the job, hope it goes well, I’ve got £20 at 20’s

No he won't.

[04Sauzee]

Heckingbottom will be in Edinburgh tomorrow to give a presentation to the Hibs board to put across his case for the job, hope it goes well, I’ve got £20 at 20’s

How many people did we interview? 3? 4?

Are we getting all 3 or 4 back for. 2nd interview or just Paul?

[Colin191078]

No he won't.

He 100% will be

[Colin191078]

How many people did we interview? 3? 4?

Are we getting all 3 or 4 back for. 2nd interview or just Paul?

I only know about PH going back to do a presentation

[Greenworld]

Tbf, I think we should let LD decide who is the superior candidate.I think cmurdoch should decide he is very thorough in his research...

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[calumhibee1]

It’s true this time. We aren’t in a relegation battle.

:agree:

We won’t be any lower than 9th. I wouldn’t be hugely surprised to see us finish there though.

[BILLYHIBS]

It’s true this time. We aren’t in a relegation battle.

Those words will forever be etched on Terry Butchers tombstone. :greengrin

[ads913]

Looking at the names of potential candidates they all look like they have had their ups and downs. i cannot believe that Stubbs and Doolan are being overlooked for me they can turn things around. He knows the players and opposition well and regardless of there shortcomings turned our club around when we hit rock bottom. The fans against the idea seem to pick on his performance in the league but have a short memory when it comes down almost having a cup double and beating every premier league team at the time that was put in front of us. I don't get it he should be a shoe in.

[Ozyhibby]

Looking at the names of potential candidates they all look like they have had their ups and downs. i cannot believe that Stubbs and Doolan are being overlooked for me they can turn things around. He knows the players and opposition well and regardless of there shortcomings turned our club around when we hit rock bottom. The fans against the idea seem to pick on his performance in the league but have a short memory when it comes down almost having a cup double and beating every premier league team at the time that was put in front of us. I don't get it he should be a shoe in.

3rd place in the Scottish championship


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[DetroitHibs]

Looking at the names of potential candidates they all look like they have had their ups and downs. i cannot believe that Stubbs and Doolan are being overlooked for me they can turn things around. He knows the players and opposition well and regardless of there shortcomings turned our club around when we hit rock bottom. The fans against the idea seem to pick on his performance in the league but have a short memory when it comes down almost having a cup double and beating every premier league team at the time that was put in front of us. I don't get it he should be a shoe in.

Had three bites at getting us promoted and failed, also has been a huge failure since leaving us. It's a no for me.

[calumhibee1]

3rd place in the Scottish championship


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Took over a **** show and finished above Rangers.

[Keyser Sauzee]

Had three bites at getting us promoted and failed, also has been a huge failure since leaving us. It's a no for me.

2 bites, but I kind of agree that he wouldn’t be the right choice for us just now.

[mcfly]

Had three bites at getting us promoted and failed, also has been a huge failure since leaving us. It's a no for me.

Inherited a mess
Got us playing some great football
Brought in some great players
Created an amazing bond between fans and players
Got us to 2 cup finals in same season
Win us the Scottish cup.

What a failure he was... he knows the club . The structure etc
But some people think naw not for me but think some manager in England who knows nothing about the Scottish game or the club is better.

Well I hope I’m wrong but we shall have to wait and see.

All in all it’s very uninspiring what’s going on.

The club is a mess at the moment .

[DetroitHibs]

Inherited a mess
Got us playing some great football
Brought in some great players
Created an amazing bond between fans and players
Got us to 2 cup finals in same season
Win us the Scottish cup.

What a failure he was... he knows the club . The structure etc
But some people think naw not for me but think some manager in England who knows nothing about the Scottish game or the club is better.

Well I hope I’m wrong but we shall have to wait and see.

All in all it’s very uninspiring what’s going on.

The club is a mess at the moment .

I didn't say he was a total failure, just couldn't get us promoted and if we are being honest, HAS failed elsewhere. As for these English managers that I'll be honest, haven't even heard off. Don't want them either. I'd personally go with a caretaker and see if Steve Clarke fancies it in the summer. I think he'd give it some serious thought knowing that most of his talent will be stripped and he will struggle to emulate his success with Killie.

[ads913]

2 bites, but I kind of agree that he wouldn’t be the right choice for us just now.

It a bit harsh to think both occasions he failed to win promotion was not due to the football we were playing but circumstances of bad luck and unfortunate timing. I did read somewhere he has the best win-loss ratio even better than Lennon.He won us the cup while in a lower league a feat I have never seen in my lifetime by any club.

[calumhibee1]

I didn't say he was a total failure, just couldn't get us promoted and if we are being honest, HAS failed elsewhere. As for these English managers that I'll be honest, haven't even heard off. Don't want them either. I'd personally go with a caretaker and see if Steve Clarke fancies it in the summer. I think he'd give it some serious thought knowing that most of his talent will be stripped and he will struggle to emulate his success with Killie.

He couldn’t get us promoted but keep in mind we weren’t favourites to win the league in either of the seasons he was manager. That left us to navigate a play off that is heavily weighted in favour of the top tier team.

Not getting promoted was of course a failure but a bit of context is needed for the “couldn’t get us promoted” argument IMO.

[DetroitHibs]

I'm not bashing Stubbs, just giving my reasons why I wouldn't have him back as manager. I could have just left it as "Stubbs na" Just thought I'd give my reasons why not. I feel the same way about Collins. Wouldn't have him back anywhere near ER managing us again.

[mcfly]

He couldn’t get us promoted but keep in mind we weren’t favourites to win the league in either of the seasons he was manager. That left us to navigate a play off that is heavily weighted in favour of the top tier team.

Not getting promoted was of course a failure but a bit of context is needed for the “couldn’t get us promoted” argument IMO.

Yep. Remember he had to build a team from scratch.

Really is disappointing to hear fans saying no to him. But prefer someone else who they know nothing about. We know what we will get watching a stubbsy team.

[Steven79]

Inherited a mess
Got us playing some great football
Brought in some great players
Created an amazing bond between fans and players
Got us to 2 cup finals in same season
Win us the Scottish cup.

What a failure he was... he knows the club . The structure etc
But some people think naw not for me but think some manager in England who knows nothing about the Scottish game or the club is better.

Well I hope I’m wrong but we shall have to wait and see.

All in all it’s very uninspiring what’s going on.

The club is a mess at the moment .

Lennon only gained one more point than Stubbs is his two seasons despite being in a far easier league (No Rangers or Hearts) and I'm convinced we would have romped the league if Stubbs had stayed.

Lennon teams drew too many games that they should have won.

Lennon's teams chocked in big games time and time again.

-Two Semi finals
-The last three games of last season

He signed players without any idea how to gel them into a team then blamed the players for his own short-comings.

The new manager has got a hell of a job cleaning up his mess and I for one and I'm glad he's gone and I feel he should have left at the end of last season as it was getting boring with his antics and moaning and all the signs were that it was just a matter of time.

Lennon thought he was bigger and better than the club but results show otherwise but I doubt he will ever admit his own failings rather just blame others.

He's a winner only in his own mind...

[Springbank]

Inherited a mess
Got us playing some great football
Brought in some great players
Created an amazing bond between fans and players
Got us to 2 cup finals in same season
Win us the Scottish cup.

What a failure he was... he knows the club . The structure etc
But some people think naw not for me but think some manager in England who knows nothing about the Scottish game or the club is better.

Well I hope I’m wrong but we shall have to wait and see.

All in all it’s very uninspiring what’s going on.

The club is a mess at the moment .

Well said

Lennon departed a week ago, we knew he was going 10 days ago, when the Scottish Cup tie (that will define our season) was still 2 weeks off.

The delay from the board just yells out "complacency" to me

They seem to be fine with taking their time, no urgency apparent

Football is a Top-Down game

If there's no urgency in the boardroom, why should we expect any higher standards on the field of play?

It is 100% unacceptable that the Board have wasted 2 weeks, leaving us with no manager for the biggest game of the season.

Urgency?

They should have had Stubbs in as 4 month caretaker for the St Mirren game onwards, for all the reasons you say in the above post.

Here's hoping we get past Raith, but the lack of manager simply cannot help us

[Unseen work]

The whole argument of “he was good there but since then has been awful/failure” is just ridiclous imo.

Lennons would have looked poor at Bolton
Derek McInnes would have looked poor at Bristol City


The majority of players/managers have been a failure somewhere, hence why they’re playing in Scotland. It’s not a bad thing.

Some people are just suited to certain clubs.

This argument stinks of Lennons “I only get rejects” statement not long ago.

If the person has a clear vision for the club, has shown at least some form of quality, understand the club and fans, know the role he is inheriting and is motivated then why not consider him.

[Callum_62]

Well said

Lennon departed a week ago, we knew he was going 10 days ago, when the Scottish Cup tie (that will define our season) was still 2 weeks off.

The delay from the board just yells out "complacency" to me

They seem to be fine with taking their time, no urgency apparent

Football is a Top-Down game

If there's no urgency in the boardroom, why should we expect any higher standards on the field of play?

It is 100% unacceptable that the Board have wasted 2 weeks, leaving us with no manager for the biggest game of the season.

Urgency?

They should have had Stubbs in as 4 month caretaker for the St Mirren game onwards, for all the reasons you say in the above post.

Here's hoping we get past Raith, but the lack of manager simply cannot help us

And if Stubbs didnt want a short term appointment?

2 weeks is hardly long to appoint a new manager



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[BILLYHIBS]

Lennon only gained one more point than Stubbs despite being in a far easier league (No Rangers or Hearts) and I'm convinced we would have romped the league if Stubbs had stayed.

Lennon teams drew too many games that they should have won.

Lennon's teams chocked in big games time and time again.

-Two Semi finals
-The last three games of last season

He signed players without any idea how to gel them into a team then blamed the players for his own short-comings.

The new manager has got a hell of a job cleaning up his mess and I for one and I'm glad he's gone and I feel he should have left at the end of last season as I for one was getting bored with his antics and moaning and all the signs were that it was just a matter of time.

Lennon thought he was bigger and better than the club and results show otherwise but I doubt he will ever admit his own failings rather just blame others.

He's a winner only in his own mind...

Agree just cast your mind back to his often baffling and head scratching team selections especially in big games playing Jase as a lone striker in the semi final versus the sheep and his inability to see off Hearts at Tinycastle time and time again

[snedzuk]

Yep. Remember he had to build a team from scratch.

Really is disappointing to hear fans saying no to him. But prefer someone else who they know nothing about. We know what we will get watching a stubbsy team.

It is heading that way again. Assume all loanees go in April / May, assess older squad members and start with whats left - hard task.

[Steven79]

Agree just cast your mind back to his often baffling and head scratching team selections especially in big games playing Jase as a lone striker in the semi final versus the sheep and his inability to see off Hearts at Tinycastle time and time again

That game at Tynecastle in May last year really started me questioning him big-time as it was a stupid way to go into a game against Hearts as we were in great form and they were struggling.

What do we do? Go one upfront and lose 2-1....

[BILLYHIBS]

That game at Tynecastle in May last year really started me questioning him big-time as it was a stupid way to go into a game against Hearts as we were in great form and they were struggling.

What do we do? Go one upfront and lose 2-1....

The beginning of the end for me.

Started threatening to leave after that when the buck stopped with him

:bye:

[Mainstandman]

Agree just cast your mind back to his often baffling and head scratching team selections especially in big games playing Jase as a lone striker in the semi final versus the sheep and his inability to see off Hearts at Tinycastle time and time again

That was all part of the master plan to bring on Holt as a amazing sub, make himself look good and remember he fired into the rest of the team after.

[Steven79]

The beginning of the end for me.

Started threatening to leave after that when the buck stopped with him

:bye:

We should have showed him the door then....

Nobody is bigger than the club and that includes the manager.

He was hardly a Fergie (apart from in his own mind) winners actually win things and the only thing he won with us was a lower league trophy that any half decent manager would have done after the Scottish Cup win bounce in 2016 and no Rangers or Hearts to compete against.

Finishing 4th last season on paper looks good but if recruitment had been better in the summer and we hadn't chocked a number of games we should have finished second.

[Hibbyradge]

Well said

Lennon departed a week ago, we knew he was going 10 days ago, when the Scottish Cup tie (that will define our season) was still 2 weeks off.

The delay from the board just yells out "complacency" to me

They seem to be fine with taking their time, no urgency apparent

Football is a Top-Down game

If there's no urgency in the boardroom, why should we expect any higher standards on the field of play?

It is 100% unacceptable that the Board have wasted 2 weeks, leaving us with no manager for the biggest game of the season.

Urgency?

They should have had Stubbs in as 4 month caretaker for the St Mirren game onwards, for all the reasons you say in the above post.

Here's hoping we get past Raith, but the lack of manager simply cannot help us

We're about to give someone a hugely important role in our club along with s handsome contract, possibly for 3 or 4 years.

Hibs get slagged off for making "panic buys" during a transfer window, and now they're getting criticised for the opposite.

If it takes a few more days to get the best man in, so be it. This is the most important appointment the club can make.

They need to get it right.

[Hibbyradge]

And if Stubbs didnt want a short term appointment?

2 weeks is hardly long to appoint a new manager




Today marks 1 week and 1 day since Neil Lennon didn't resign and wasn't dismissed.

Two weeks will be next Wednesday.

[Not In The Know]

Lennon only gained one more point than Stubbs despite being in a far easier league (No Rangers or Hearts) and I'm convinced we would have romped the league if Stubbs had stayed.

Lennon teams drew too many games that they should have won.

Lennon's teams chocked in big games time and time again.

-Two Semi finals
-The last three games of last season

He signed players without any idea how to gel them into a team then blamed the players for his own short-comings.

The new manager has got a hell of a job cleaning up his mess and I for one and I'm glad he's gone and I feel he should have left at the end of last season as it was getting boring with his antics and moaning and all the signs were that it was just a matter of time.

Lennon thought he was bigger and better than the club but results show otherwise but I doubt he will ever admit his own failings rather just blame others.

He's a winner only in his own mind...

agreed.

[mcfly]

We're about to give someone a hugely important role in our club along with s handsome contract, possibly for 3 or 4 years.

Hibs get slagged off for making "panic buys" during a transfer window, and now they're getting criticised for the opposite.

If it takes a few more days to get the best man in, so be it. This is the most important appointment the club can make.

They need to get it right.

Sorry but this is too long.

Season pretty much rests on winning this sat.

Lose and we may get top 6 but that’s still a failure for me with the fan base/crowds/ budget etc.

The club worked hard to get the fans back. There has to be a fear that 3-4 k don’t come back with the shambles that’s going on at the moment.

I really thought we would push on this season and at least be comfortable too 4-5 pushing for Europe.
Very disappointing season

[Steven79]

Sorry but this is too long.

Season pretty much rests on winning this sat.

Lose and we may get top 6 but that’s still a failure for me with the fan base/crowds/ budget etc.

The club worked hard to get the fans back. There has to be a fear that 3-4 k don’t come back with the shambles that’s going on at the moment.

I really thought we would push on this season and at least be comfortable too 4-5 pushing for Europe.
Very disappointing season

Yeah it has been but let's re-group and aim for 6th and get as far as possible in the cup then re-build in the summer for next season.

My season ticket money for next season is in a seperate account and I will be first in line to buy one as I'm sure this is just a blip and now that Lennon is gone we can move upwards again.

[The Harp Awakes]

Looking at the names of potential candidates they all look like they have had their ups and downs. i cannot believe that Stubbs and Doolan are being overlooked for me they can turn things around. He knows the players and opposition well and regardless of there shortcomings turned our club around when we hit rock bottom. The fans against the idea seem to pick on his performance in the league but have a short memory when it comes down almost having a cup double and beating every premier league team at the time that was put in front of us. I don't get it he should be a shoe in.

I wouldn't want Stubbs returning, but I agree with you on many of the potential candidates being uninspiring. Other than Strachan or Clarke, the others all seem to have at best, patchy credentials and experience.

Presently the support is split on the Board's handling of Lennygate, and they really need to get the next Managerial appointment right. I don't think the timing is right to appoint a Manager who is relatively unknown/untried, with a questionable CV and little knowledge of the Club and Scottish football.

The fans need a figurehead who has the gravitas we can unite behind, so that we can all move on from the mess we are presently in.

[H18S NX]

Inherited a mess
Got us playing some great football
Brought in some great players
Created an amazing bond between fans and players
Got us to 2 cup finals in same season
Win us the Scottish cup.

What a failure he was... he knows the club . The structure etc
But some people think naw not for me but think some manager in England who knows nothing about the Scottish game or the club is better.

Well I hope I’m wrong but we shall have to wait and see.

All in all it’s very uninspiring what’s going on.

The club is a mess at the moment ..........CORRECT m8,well said.

[Hibbyradge]

Sorry but this is too long.

Season pretty much rests on winning this sat.

Lose and we may get top 6 but that’s still a failure for me with the fan base/crowds/ budget etc.

The club worked hard to get the fans back. There has to be a fear that 3-4 k don’t come back with the shambles that’s going on at the moment.

I really thought we would push on this season and at least be comfortable too 4-5 pushing for Europe.
Very disappointing season

It'll take any new manager several weeks to properly assess the players he has at his disposal.

He'll be heavily reliant on Eddie May and the current staff for advice for some time.

The chance of him making any real impact immediately is low unless people believe NL was a destructive influence on the team.

It's been a week. We've had several people to interview. Some may have wanted too much money. Some may have thought that Hibs' structure didn't suit them. Some may have been hopeless at interview. Some may have impressed. Some may have wanted to bring in too many assistants. Some may have great recruitment plans and ideas. Some may have none.

7 days to recruit someone for one of the most high profile jobs in Scotland, is not a long time.

Grabbing the first bloke available in a panic rarely works and is not the way forward.

[The 90+2]

I’m happy enough we are taking our time to get the right person in.

[greenpaper55]

I thought Stubs would have been a good fit until the end of the season but if you think about it the club will want some continuity going forward as to next seasons players. i Think with a new manager in place he will want to asses the players we have before any clear out and regards the close season buys.

[The 90+2]

I thought Stubs would have been a good fit until the end of the season but if you think about it the club will want some continuity going forward as to next seasons players. i Think with a new manager in place he will want to asses the players we have before any clear out and regards the close season buys.

Yep. It’s all about building for next season for me. Anything else is a complete bonus but I won’t be happy if we don’t identify players to get them in quickly for pre-season and hit the ground running. None of this better players become available at the end of the window because it never happens.

[B.H.F.C]

Yep. It’s all about building for next season for me. Anything else is a complete bonus but I won’t be happy if we don’t identify players to get them in quickly for pre-season and hit the ground running. None of this better players become available at the end of the window because it never happens.

If it’s all about next season can I have half my season ticket money back for the half of the season we effectively wrote off on January?

It’s always ‘tomorrow’ with us.

November and December......wait until January.
January.....wait until the end of the window.
February.....the new man needs time.
March.....can we have your season ticket money please?

[Hibbyradge]

I thought Stubs would have been a good fit until the end of the season but if you think about it the club will want some continuity going forward as to next seasons players. i Think with a new manager in place he will want to asses the players we have before any clear out and regards the close season buys.

I doubt Stubbs would have been happy to accept the job for just 4 months.

Man United could get Ole GS to come in because they're paying him £millions for less than half a year's work.

[calumhibee1]

If it’s all about next season can I have half my season ticket money back for the half of the season we effectively wrote off on January?

It’s always ‘tomorrow’ with us.

November and December......wait until January.
January.....wait until the end of the window.
February.....the new man needs time.
March.....can we have your season ticket money please?

This is one of my biggest frustrations. You can add Summer - were not rushing into signings because we’re building a team to get us to Europe every year, not just this year. Wait until next year.

This years Europe was more of a pre season thing was what was preached on here.

[ads913]

I doubt Stubbs would have been happy to accept the job for just 4 months.

Man United could get Ole GS to come in because they're paying him £millions for less than half a year's work.

I think he could mop up the mess pretty quickly and deal with the current situation the other potential managers is a complete gamble and uninspiring.
were in dreamland if you think we can get Clarke or Strachan. Stubbs brings the feel-good factor and confidence and fits Hibs as wee Scotty Alan does.
A lot at risk right now when it comes to renewal of season ticket time and Scottish cup on Sat.
in Stubbs we trust

[FilipinoHibs]

I doubt Stubbs would have been happy to accept the job for just 4 months.

Man United could get Ole GS to come in because they're paying him £millions for less than half a year's work.

Think Stubbs needs the money though. But wrong to turn back the clock. He left because he thought he was too big for us. We lacked the mentality in the league to get promoted. Let's move on.

[Kato]

No, but it doesn't look a great management CV. And he's only lasted longer than a season in one job. Is it not possible that he is a factor in that? It concerns me in terms of our stability.

So it's a superficial opinion.

[Greenworld]

It'll take any new manager several weeks to properly assess the players he has at his disposal.

He'll be heavily reliant on Eddie May and the current staff for advice for some time.

The chance of him making any real impact immediately is low unless people believe NL was a destructive influence on the team.

It's been a week. We've had several people to interview. Some may have wanted too much money. Some may have thought that Hibs' structure didn't suit them. Some may have been hopeless at interview. Some may have impressed. Some may have wanted to bring in too many assistants. Some may have great recruitment plans and ideas. Some may have none.

7 days to recruit someone for one of the most high profile jobs in Scotland, is not a long time.

Grabbing the first bloke available in a panic rarely works and is not the way forward.Fair post only thing I would say is new managers tend to win first game in charge

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[The 90+2]

If it’s all about next season can I have half my season ticket money back for the half of the season we effectively wrote off on January?

It’s always ‘tomorrow’ with us.

November and December......wait until January.
January.....wait until the end of the window.
February.....the new man needs time.
March.....can we have your season ticket money please?

I would usually agree with that but it was looking increasingly obvious half way through January the season was gone bar the cup. I make it clear the guy who caused this shamles is gone and I’m happy with it. I’m now willing to write the season off and give our new man time to get the group together evaluate the current squad and make decisions on who to keep bolt and bring his own players in early. If that doesn’t happen then I’ll be very concerned. There’s not much the club or new coach can do with the position we find ourselves in.

[Heisenberg]

Being reported that it’s now a two horse race between Heckingbottom and Appleton. Both to be re interviewed in the next 24hrs (which I’m guessing is the presentation a previous poster has mentioned).

[Springbank]

When we were relegated it was the first time in years I felt I had seen a genuine sense of urgency from the board, from the top at Easter Road.

It was suddenly no time to be complacent - the connection with the fans improved, the bonds were there, even the songbook suddenly exploded with creativity from the stands, and we won most of our games, and eventually won the Cup.

I personally look at the current mess as being the Board "reverting to type" and it's not acceptable.

Complacency and a lack of urgency - a lack of awareness of how competitive sport works - saw us do stupid things like this...where we go rudderless and lacking urgency as an organisation, into the biggest game of the season.

It's a mini version of going into a cup final derby with a team chocked full of loanees...guys passing through

We need a huge effort on Saturday and the lack of a manager (even a Solksjaer-type appointment of Stubbs, who declared his availability on national radio) is really very poor planning from the recruitment team.

[The 90+2]

When we were relegated it was the first time in years I felt I had seen a genuine sense of urgency from the board, from the top at Easter Road.

It was suddenly no time to be complacent - the connection with the fans improved, the bonds were there, even the songbook suddenly exploded with creativity from the stands, and we won most of our games, and eventually won the Cup.

I personally look at the current mess as being the Board "reverting to type" and it's not acceptable.

Complacency and a lack of urgency - a lack of awareness of how competitive sport works - saw us do stupid things like this...where we go rudderless and lacking urgency as an organisation, into the biggest game of the season.

It's a mini version of going into a cup final derby with a team chocked full of loanees...guys passing through

We need a huge effort on Saturday and the lack of a manager (even a Solksjaer-type appointment of Stubbs, who declared his availability on national radio) is really very poor planning from the recruitment team.

I think we will have a new guy in the dugout for Saturday.

[BILLYHIBS]

I think we will have a new guy in the dugout for Saturday.
Spill?

Better still PM me

:thumbsup:

[Callum_62]

I think we will have a new guy in the dugout for Saturday.

No chance i reckon

In the stand at a push - taking the team i highly doubt


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[The 90+2]

No chance i reckon

In the stand at a push - taking the team i highly doubt


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I wouldn’t be so sure. The guys in the dugout don’t want to be there and if there’s an annoument today or tomorrow then you never know.

[Heisenberg]

I wouldn’t be so sure. The guys in the dugout don’t want to be there and if there’s an annoument today or tomorrow then you never know.

Interviews are still being completed over the next day. Maybe an announcement tomorrow at a push but I doubt it.

[SMAXXA]

Won’t be in the dugout Saturday

[04Sauzee]

Being reported that it’s now a two horse race between Heckingbottom and Appleton. Both to be re interviewed in the next 24hrs (which I’m guessing is the presentation a previous poster has mentioned).

Bring them both in for 6 months , give them a half each game , Hibs can have a fans app , in app purchases , 10p to vote on the best manager per game. We get the best manager at the end and we have made money.

*Disclaimer* the above is firmly tongue in cheek

[GreenCastle]

Radio said last night Eddie May will be in dug out Saturday.

2nd round of interviews taking place. 1st interviews were in England. (Edit)

We may have a new manager by the weekend but it will be Eddie May for the 4th game in a row - W1 - L2 - D0

[AllyF]

Really interesting interview with Appleton in The Times about his relationship with Alex Ferguson and the type of managerial job he's looking for.

Link here. (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/michael-appleton-cool-strategic-a-big-thinker-its-no-shock-ole-gunnar-solskjaers-done-well-prwdcsbq8)

[SuperSirJMcginn]

Paul Heckingbottom would be an absolute disaster. No no no Hibs. Apparently plays physical football and completely snaked Barnsley!

Appleton has a patchy managerial record but I like the interview above and he seems to have his head screwed on now with jobs.

This appointment seems to have old school Hibs vibes which worries me. Hopefully Leann can make the right decision because the club is heading into a downward spiral again.

Physical football... Why would that be a bad thing?

[Captain Trips]

Radio said last night Eddie May will be in dug out Saturday.

2nd round of interviews taking place in England.

We may have a new manager by the weekend but it will be Eddie May for the 4th game in a row - W1 - L2 - D0

You say 2nd rd of interviews in England, has either candidate been up here at all to see stadium or other facilities?

[Blaster]

You say 2nd rd of interviews in England, has either candidate been up here at all to see stadium or other facilities?

We’ve given them a DVD 😉

[Deansy]

Sorry but this is too long.

Season pretty much rests on winning this sat.

Lose and we may get top 6 but that’s still a failure for me with the fan base/crowds/ budget etc.

The club worked hard to get the fans back. There has to be a fear that 3-4 k don’t come back with the shambles that’s going on at the moment.

I really thought we would push on this season and at least be comfortable too 4-5 pushing for Europe.
Very disappointing season

That's how I'm feeling as well, all the good work and the 'Feel good factor' surrounding our club seems to be vanishing fast - almost as if there's a hidden desire to get back to turgid displays, apathy, ill-will, unrest etc, etc !

[GreenCastle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6R05FpAqE0

Appleton speaking here - Oct 2017

I think between Appleton and Heckingbottom we will have a no nonsense manager.

I've said before the assistant he brings in will be so important plus how quickly he adapts to the club and gets the unity / fans back onside.

[GreenCastle]

You say 2nd rd of interviews in England, has either candidate been up here at all to see stadium or other facilities?

Radio said 1st interviews were with RP and LD travelling down south to meet the 2 candidates.

I'm not sure about 2nd interviews - though you would surely think they would come up to Edinburgh.

Appleton was at the game last night supposedly.

[Crazyhorse]

Radio said last night Eddie May will be in dug out Saturday.

2nd round of interviews taking place. 1st interviews were in England. (Edit)

We may have a new manager by the weekend but it will be Eddie May for the 4th game in a row - W1 - L2 - D0

33.3% win rate.

[The Green Goblin]

If it’s all about next season can I have half my season ticket money back for the half of the season we effectively wrote off on January?

It’s always ‘tomorrow’ with us.

November and December......wait until January.
January.....wait until the end of the window.
February.....the new man needs time.
March.....can we have your season ticket money please?

Jam tomorrow.

[JimBHibees]

I've said before the assistant he brings in will be so important plus how quickly he adapts to the club and gets the unity / fans back onside.

I really hope they bring their own assistant. Dont want to see them having an assistant foisted on them ala Derek Adams? IMO really important they have people they can trust working with them.

[Speedway]

If Stubbs and Lennon had a baby, it would be Appleton.

[CropleyWasGod]

Been racking my brains all week about that name. :greengrin

Mike Appleton was the producer of the Old Grey Whistle Test.

Nice.

[green day]

Liam Gallacher was once married to Nicole Appleton, he also has a son called Lennon by Patsy Kensit.

Its all coming together........................

[Heedersnvolleys]

And if Stubbs didnt want a short term appointment?

2 weeks is hardly long to appoint a new manager



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It is if you have already been looking 😈

[Callum_62]

It is if you have already been looking [emoji48]

Huh?


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[The 90+2]

Liam Gallacher was once married to Nicole Appleton, he also has a son called Lennon by Patsy Kensit.

Its all coming together........................

Some might say it’s all part of the masterplan.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Physical football... Why would that be a bad thing?

Soon as we lost a couple of games he’d be hounded.

[04Sauzee]

Really interesting interview with Appleton in The Times about his relationship with Alex Ferguson and the type of managerial job he's looking for.

Link here. (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/michael-appleton-cool-strategic-a-big-thinker-its-no-shock-ole-gunnar-solskjaers-done-well-prwdcsbq8)

Unfortunately you have to be registered to read the interview

[greenpaper55]

Maybe Appleton is interviewing the Tach ? that would be interesting .

[Hibbyradge]

If I was about to take over as the new manager of a club, I'm not sure I'd want to start my career there with s match which so many supporters are holding up as a make or break for the club.

Just a thought.

[green day]

Some might say it’s all part of the masterplan.

:thumbsup:

Wheres the poster "Pretty Green" just to make even more of the Oasis bull****tery this afternoon !!

[calumhibee1]

If I was about to take over as the new manager of a club, I'm not sure I'd want to start my career there with s match which so many supporters are holding up as a make or break for the club.

Just a thought.

If he doesn’t want to start his career with a home cup tie against a team 2 leagues below us then there’s something wrong.

A new manager should be looking at that as the best possible start he could have.

[AllyF]

Unfortunately you have to be registered to read the interview

It’s free to sign up for registered access which gets you a couple of free articles.


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[Beefster]

When we were relegated it was the first time in years I felt I had seen a genuine sense of urgency from the board, from the top at Easter Road.

...

We need a huge effort on Saturday and the lack of a manager (even a Solksjaer-type appointment of Stubbs, who declared his availability on national radio) is really very poor planning from the recruitment team.

There were exactly 2 weeks between Butcher being sacked and Stubbs being appointed. If we appoint a new head coach before next Wednesday we will have done it quicker than that time you felt there was a genuine sense of urgency.

[Barman Stanton]

Think Stubbs needs the money though. But wrong to turn back the clock. He left because he thought he was too big for us. We lacked the mentality in the league to get promoted. Let's move on.

If rumours were true that's no where near the reason Stubbs left us. Also don't think we lacked the mentality. We were up against Rangers and Hearts first season. And Rangers in the second season, where I believe the cup runs costs us our promotion (and terrible ref decisions in the play off). His team had the mentality to win the Scottish Cup, something neither the Famous Five or Tornado's seemed to have.

[B.H.F.C]

If I was about to take over as the new manager of a club, I'm not sure I'd want to start my career there with s match which so many supporters are holding up as a make or break for the club.

Just a thought.

Alternatively, they could look at it as a home game against a side two leagues below. Can’t ask for a better start than that.

Any manager worried about coming in to that type of game is probably not for us.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Stubbs is desperate for the job - he’d take whatever we offer him.

[Greenworld]

Well looks like between ma and pH listened to them both in interviews and sound good guys ...no reason but feel MA would be good choice

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[bigswissstriker]

Stubbs is desperate for the job - he’d take whatever we offer him.

We should pay him not to take it

[Barman Stanton]

We should pay him not to take it

Why? I really don't get the hate for Stubbs by some on here. Had us playing some of the best football I have seen from us. Signed the likes of McGinn, McGeough, Allan, Gray, McGregor, Stokes. Completely turned the club around. Oh aye, and won the f***** Scottish Cup (could have been 2 cups).

If there is a better appointment to be made then great, but I find the dislike of Stubbs on here completely baffling.

If we turn like this on the manager that finally delivered the Cup I fear for anyone else taking the job with our support.

[we are hibs]

We should pay him not to take it

I would pay you to stop posting.

[jacomo]

Why? I really don't get the hate for Stubbs by some on here. Had us playing some of the best football I have seen from us. Signed the likes of McGinn, McGeough, Allan, Gray, McGregor, Stokes. Completely turned the club around. Oh aye, and won the f***** Scottish Cup (could have been 2 cups).

If there is a better appointment to be made then great, but I find the dislike of Stubbs on here completely baffling.

If we turn like this on the manager that finally delivered the Cup I fear for anyone else taking the job with our support.


:agree:

It is fundamentally weird.

Same thing happened to John Collins of course.

Moral of the story: lead Hibs to a cup win and a vocal minority will be bitter towards you forever more.

[Barman Stanton]

:agree:

It is fundamentally weird.

Same thing happened to John Collins of course.

Moral of the story: lead Hibs to a cup win and a vocal minority will be bitter towards you forever more.

Its bizarre. But I think the rise in attendances and expectations has unfortunately brought the standard of fan down.

[Crazyhorse]

Why? I really don't get the hate for Stubbs by some on here. Had us playing some of the best football I have seen from us. Signed the likes of McGinn, McGeough, Allan, Gray, McGregor, Stokes. Completely turned the club around. Oh aye, and won the f***** Scottish Cup (could have been 2 cups).

If there is a better appointment to be made then great, but I find the dislike of Stubbs on here completely baffling.

If we turn like this on the manager that finally delivered the Cup I fear for anyone else taking the job with our support.

Agree with you. But I'm not holding my breath for any sort of coherent explanation.
I probably wouldn't favour bringing him back but I'm not going to piss on his achievements.

[calumhibee1]

Why? I really don't get the hate for Stubbs by some on here. Had us playing some of the best football I have seen from us. Signed the likes of McGinn, McGeough, Allan, Gray, McGregor, Stokes. Completely turned the club around. Oh aye, and won the f***** Scottish Cup (could have been 2 cups).

If there is a better appointment to be made then great, but I find the dislike of Stubbs on here completely baffling.

If we turn like this on the manager that finally delivered the Cup I fear for anyone else taking the job with our support.

Likewise. For a lot of posters they just don’t think he’s the man for the job and that’s absolutely fine. But there’s a minority who really seem to have it in for him.

[BoomtownHibees]

Likewise. For a lot of posters they just don’t think he’s the man for the job and that’s absolutely fine. But there’s a minority who really seem to have it in for him.

Maybe they weren’t happy about him dipping the kitty

[mcfly]

We should pay him not to take it

Shocking post and your obviously looking for a reaction.

That man is hero and should be treated with respect.

He gave us our greatest ever day as a hibs fan and you should be ashamed for this post.

In my opinion if he wanted it we should have got him and solved all this time wasting - the 2 guys may turn out great and I hope they do but stubbsy
doesn’t deserve this at all.

[adhibs]

Its bizarre. But I think the rise in attendances and expectations has unfortunately brought the standard of fan down.

Got to say thats an absolutely mental comment. Because people don't agree with your opinion on Stubbs their inferior to you?

[SHODAN]

Why? I really don't get the hate for Stubbs by some on here. Had us playing some of the best football I have seen from us. Signed the likes of McGinn, McGeough, Allan, Gray, McGregor, Stokes. Completely turned the club around. Oh aye, and won the f***** Scottish Cup (could have been 2 cups).

If there is a better appointment to be made then great, but I find the dislike of Stubbs on here completely baffling.

If we turn like this on the manager that finally delivered the Cup I fear for anyone else taking the job with our support.

He doesn't shout at the players after we lose and demand money from the board all the time so he's ***** apparently.

[mcfly]

Why? I really don't get the hate for Stubbs by some on here. Had us playing some of the best football I have seen from us. Signed the likes of McGinn, McGeough, Allan, Gray, McGregor, Stokes. Completely turned the club around. Oh aye, and won the f***** Scottish Cup (could have been 2 cups).

If there is a better appointment to be made then great, but I find the dislike of Stubbs on here completely baffling.

If we turn like this on the manager that finally delivered the Cup I fear for anyone else taking the job with our support.

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[mcfly]

I would pay you to stop posting.

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[Radium]

Well looks like between ma and pH listened to them both in interviews and sound good guys ...no reason but feel MA would be good choice

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[calumhibee1]

Maybe they weren’t happy about him dipping the kitty

That would just be pure jealousy :greengrin

[BoomtownHibees]

That would just be pure jealousy :greengrin

And rightly so 😉

[K-Zazu]

Imagine we announced someone like Michael O’Neil ( yeah I know )

[eastcoasthibby]

Yeah it has been but let's re-group and aim for 6th and get as far as possible in the cup then re-build in the summer for next season.

My season ticket money for next season is in a seperate account and I will be first in line to buy one as I'm sure this is just a blip and now that Lennon is gone we can move upwards again.
I rely do wish I had your confidence and attitude where we are and what lies ahead. I am aggrieved at whats gone on since last summer during the transfer window until now, and blame/ responsibility rests with the Board, Recruitment and Lennon. Its been disjointed and opened.up so many questions about what actually goes on in the club, from who says the type of player we are looking for, agrees signings, how squad and signing targets are negotiated internally, player attitudes and relationships within the management team and Board. Lennons behaviours and style of.play, decisions of.selection and formation, its all been coming.to the boil for months and for whatever reason its been allowed to slide, as result have shown on the park all obviously hasnt been well on the playing side and the remnants of that are in the way are playing.
Getting into the top 6 on what is viaible just now, never.mind a Scittish cup run look extremely unlikely, unless we can find a team selection that works and a vast improvement in players cinfidence and attitude,.as.it stands a positive result on Saturday will be a big result for ua.
New manager in is urgently required to settle thingsand hopefully, provide some confidence going forward intonext season.

[Steven79]

I rely do wish I had your confidence and attitude where we are and what lies ahead. I am aggrieved at whats gone on since last summer during the transfer window until now, and blame/ responsibility rests with the Board, Recruitment and Lennon. Its been disjointed and opened.up so many questions about what actually goes on in the club, from who says the type of player we are looking for, agrees signings, how squad and signing targets are negotiated internally, player attitudes and relationships within the management team and Board. Lennons behaviours and style of.play, decisions of.selection and formation, its all been coming.to the boil for months and for whatever reason its been allowed to slide, as result have shown on the park all obviously hasnt been well on the playing side and the remnants of that are in the way are playing.
Getting into the top 6 on what is viaible just now, never.mind a Scittish cup run look extremely unlikely, unless we can find a team selection that works and a vast improvement in players cinfidence and attitude,.as.it stands a positive result on Saturday will be a big result for ua.
New manager in is urgently required to settle thingsand hopefully, provide some confidence going forward intonext season.

I think we need the new manager in before the cup tie so he can get two wins under his belt before facing Dundee & Saints away.

It's looking less and less likely....

[Barman Stanton]

Got to say thats an absolutely mental comment. Because people don't agree with your opinion on Stubbs their inferior to you?

Really? Last week there was loads on here wanting Lennon sacked. Now we have people turning on the board. On this thread there are people sticking it into a Cup winning manager. At the weekend I had a full family behind me screaming and moaning at everything Hibs done. Sorry, but I stick by it. The extra attendances bring a different element to our support. You can see it at every Cup Final.

[Danderhall Hibs]

We should pay him not to take it

Don’t have to - if we don’t offer him it we don’t pay a bolt. Mind you is it “ambition” if we do pay him?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Really? Last week there was loads on here wanting Lennon sacked. Now we have people turning on the board. On this thread there are people sticking it into a Cup winning manager. At the weekend I had a full family behind me screaming and moaning at everything Hibs done. Sorry, but I stick by it. The extra attendances bring a different element to our support. You can see it at every Cup Final.


:agree: I think it might be them that shout about us “deserving” something as well.

[Harpandcastle]

Maybe they weren’t happy about him dipping the kitty

Who could blame him for that?

[BoomtownHibees]

Who could blame him for that?

Correct 👍🏼

[offshorehibby]

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Wheres the poster "Pretty Green" just to make even more of the Oasis bull****tery this afternoon !!

Hoi, I heard that :greengrin

[greenpaper55]

All this talk of Appleton, he must have been on a fantastic salary as an assistant in the PL, Rod will nearly faint when he hears his wage demands !

[Stuart93]

Who could blame him for that?

She was my physio once upon a time when I goosed my knee and I certainly couldn’t blame him

[ads913]

Why? I really don't get the hate for Stubbs by some on here. Had us playing some of the best football I have seen from us. Signed the likes of McGinn, McGeough, Allan, Gray, McGregor, Stokes. Completely turned the club around. Oh aye, and won the f***** Scottish Cup (could have been 2 cups).

If there is a better appointment to be made then great, but I find the dislike of Stubbs on here completely baffling.

If we turn like this on the manager that finally delivered the Cup I fear for anyone else taking the job with our support.
Exactly i dont get it either maybe short memories. watch the cup final videos might wake up some folks

[Winston Ingram]

We should pay him not to take it

Yep

[CathroMustStay]

Lennon only gained one more point than Stubbs is his two seasons despite being in a far easier league (No Rangers or Hearts) and I'm convinced we would have romped the league if Stubbs had stayed.

Lennon teams drew too many games that they should have won.

Lennon's teams chocked in big games time and time again.

-Two Semi finals
-The last three games of last season

He signed players without any idea how to gel them into a team then blamed the players for his own short-comings.

The new manager has got a hell of a job cleaning up his mess and I for one and I'm glad he's gone and I feel he should have left at the end of last season as it was getting boring with his antics and moaning and all the signs were that it was just a matter of time.

Lennon thought he was bigger and better than the club but results show otherwise but I doubt he will ever admit his own failings rather just blame others.

He's a winner only in his own mind...

What a bitter, pathetic, negatively framed summation.

[Steven79]

What a bitter, pathetic, negatively framed summation.

Have I said anything that wasn't true?

[SuperSirJMcginn]

Exactly i dont get it either maybe short memories. watch the cup final videos might wake up some folks


Well said.

I've came round from appointing a temporary manager to permanent. I just hope it's done sooner rather than later. Stubbs would be good. But maybe we should look at the championship and give young managers a chance. like steve ferguson and Stuart kettlewell. Ian Mccall has also put ayr united back on the map. he knows the SPL in and out. Maybe they deserve a chance?

[Danderhall Hibs]

What a bitter, pathetic, negatively framed summation.

It’s just the opposite side of the argument. Truth is somewhere in the middle.

[04Sauzee]

McBookies have

Appleton 1/2 fav with the next best being

Dean Holden and Heckingbottom both at 5/1

[greenpaper55]

Dempster saying here it will be next week when the new man is announced, still to interview some !

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/hibernian/hibs-chief-executive-leeann-dempster-hits-back-at-claims-club-is-in-turmoil-1-4869830

[04Sauzee]

Dempster saying here it will be next week when the new man is announced, still to interview some !

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/hibernian/hibs-chief-executive-leeann-dempster-hits-back-at-claims-club-is-in-turmoil-1-4869830

Strange that most of what is written in that article is taken from the interview that's online. The only thing I didn't get from the online interview was that a replacement head coach may not be in until next week.