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Callum_62
02-02-2019, 08:47 PM
Anyone asked Eddie May if he wants the job?


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Hibeesmad
02-02-2019, 08:48 PM
Anyone asked Eddie May if he wants the job?


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He said he doesn’t want it

The Harp Awakes
02-02-2019, 08:51 PM
Would give the whole club and support a massive feelgood bounce and he would be settled in far quicker than any other candidate. The notion that we might take two weeks to appoint from here fills me with horror.

I'm not sure it would. I think Doolan was a big part in Stubbs' success at Hibs and on his own it would not work. The baggage he left is also a problem.

Hibeesforever
02-02-2019, 08:51 PM
Stubbs should stay well clear.
If he didn’t turn the form around sharpish , the fans would turn on him souring his legendary status.

Yes but it would be a great rollercoaster and this period is a free shot with a rebuild needed in the summer!

Lago
02-02-2019, 09:01 PM
I don’t think Stubbs has got a hope in hell of getting the job.
That's a relief.

hibsbollah
02-02-2019, 09:02 PM
Whats folks thoughts on JC as the next Hibs manager?

He's still under contract at Forest isn't he?

Scottie
02-02-2019, 09:05 PM
He's still under contract at Forest isn't he?:tee hee:

Michael
02-02-2019, 09:09 PM
Collins isn't manager material. He's also probably not interested and if he was he wouldn't get it

Iggy Pope
02-02-2019, 09:09 PM
Whats folks thoughts on JC as the next Hibs manager?

He’d only end up crucified.

matty_f
02-02-2019, 09:10 PM
Collins isn't manager material. He's also probably not interested and if he was he wouldn't get it

No way would Collins get it. Rightly so.

BT58
02-02-2019, 09:11 PM
Whats folks thoughts on JC as the next Hibs manager?
He is a mate of GS. Perhaps GS asked him to have a look

Hibeesmad
02-02-2019, 09:11 PM
He’d only end up crucified.

Most probably.

Scottie
02-02-2019, 09:14 PM
He is a mate of GS. Perhaps GS asked him to have a look
That was my thinking. GS with JC as his assistant. Would Petrie have that though ?

Alfiembra
02-02-2019, 09:16 PM
He’d only end up crucified.

Nailed It

FitbaFolkKen
02-02-2019, 09:18 PM
Grayson into evens with PP

The Harp Awakes
02-02-2019, 09:23 PM
Whats folks thoughts on JC as the next Hibs manager?

Well you take guys how find them. John is a gentleman, and loves the Hibs. Despite all the cr@p about his ego as Manager he wanted to take Hibs to another level but the players and Board wouldn't back him. Met John over the years tenting with his family in the Highlands. Not too big an ego with all his wealth to live in a tent it seems.

Gordon Strachan with JC as his assistant would be a good move.

Iggy Pope
02-02-2019, 09:26 PM
Well you take guys how find them. John is a gentleman, and loves the Hibs. Despite all the cr@p about his ego as Manager he wanted to take Hibs to another level but the players and Board wouldn't back him. Met John over the years tenting with his family in the Highlands. Not too big an ego with all his wealth to live in a tent it seems.

Gordon Strachan with JC as his assistant would be a good move.

He doesn’t live in a ****ing tent.

hibsbollah
02-02-2019, 09:27 PM
Whats folks thoughts on JC as the next Hibs manager?

Jay Z?:tumble:

The Harp Awakes
02-02-2019, 09:29 PM
He doesn’t live in a ****ing tent.

Not 365 days a year no, you're right:na na:

madhatter
02-02-2019, 09:29 PM
Grayson into evens with PP

Grayson and Lennon are pals, are they not?

Can’t see it, and don’t want to see it.

The Harp Awakes
02-02-2019, 09:30 PM
grayson and lennon are pals, are they not?

Can’t see it, and don’t want to see it.

ffs.

madhatter
02-02-2019, 09:31 PM
ffs.

?

DetroitHibs
02-02-2019, 09:32 PM
Nigel Pearson would be on my shortlist.

The Harp Awakes
02-02-2019, 09:32 PM
?

Not you. Grayson ffs.

04Sauzee
02-02-2019, 09:34 PM
Nigel Pearson would be on my shortlist.

Off people you wouldn't want to get the Hibs Job?

Iggy Pope
02-02-2019, 09:36 PM
Nigel Pearson would be on my shortlist.

Of people that should be made to live in tents?

madhatter
02-02-2019, 09:36 PM
Not you. Grayson ffs.

Hopefully nothing to worry about. Sure he was good friends with Lennon and hasn’t had a great track record recently.

I’d take John Collins back in some capacity over Grayson any day of the week.

hibsbollah
02-02-2019, 09:39 PM
That was my thinking. GS with JC as his assistant. Would Petrie have that though ?

I really liked his early work with Pulp. Being under GS might be a step too far for him at this stage of his career though.

matty_f
02-02-2019, 09:43 PM
I really liked his early work with Pulp. Being under GS might be a step too far for him at this stage of his career though.

So long as the Terminator isn't still after him he might be ok.

Michael
02-02-2019, 09:45 PM
I really liked his early work with Pulp. Being under GS might be a step too far for him at this stage of his career though.

He'd be different class mate.

Crunchie
02-02-2019, 09:47 PM
I would personally love to see Stubbsy back but know that is unlikely. My second choice would be Strachan without a doubt.

hibees 7062
02-02-2019, 09:52 PM
John Doolan emerges as contender for shock return to Hibs to replace Neil Lennon

matty_f
02-02-2019, 09:53 PM
John Doolan emerges as contender for shock return to Hibs to replace Neil Lennon

That's a bold statement.

hibees 7062
02-02-2019, 09:55 PM
That's a bold statement.

The Sun Matty

matty_f
02-02-2019, 09:56 PM
The Sun Matty

Ah... The text had a tan.

hibees 7062
02-02-2019, 09:57 PM
Ah... The text had a tan.

:greengrin

The Harp Awakes
02-02-2019, 10:19 PM
John Doolan emerges as contender for shock return to Hibs to replace Neil Lennon

And why not? Inspirational. A big part of our Cup win.

Spike Mandela
02-02-2019, 10:21 PM
Grayson into evens with PP

They’ve shut that door.

Doh Rae Me
02-02-2019, 10:24 PM
John Doolan emerges as contender for shock return to Hibs to replace Neil Lennon

Could we really have a manager that's faster than anyone in the team?

madhatter
02-02-2019, 10:26 PM
John Doolan emerges as contender for shock return to Hibs to replace Neil Lennon

Think this has as much chance as Stubbs returning. Pretty sure the board know they need to get this appointment right and Doolan presents a risk as he’s not experienced. Guess there’s one thing though, Doolan is well liked by the fans. That’ll give him a chance.

SMAXXA
02-02-2019, 10:29 PM
Regardless of who it is what we can say is the board have got right the last 2 appointments since Leeann came to the club regardless how they both ended they were both successful for us.

The Harp Awakes
02-02-2019, 10:30 PM
Regardless of who it is what we can say is the board have got right the last 2 appointments since Leeann came to the club regardless how they both ended they were both successful for us.

Correct.

Scotty Leither
02-02-2019, 10:33 PM
I really hope the club are interviewing all day tomorrow and Monday with a view to having the new boy in and taking training on Tuesday.

May is like a rabbit in headlights and is very much a victim of current circumstances, but his line-up today for a guy who was basically getting a free hit was dull and unimaginative, and that's the performance we got.

I always expect us to have a go whoever we're playing at Easter Road,but you need players that can actually run past players to do that.

An update tomorrow or Monday as to how things are progressing wouldn't be too much to ask of the club either.

Doh Rae Me
02-02-2019, 10:34 PM
Why the delay tho?
I think the board must have been looking for some time at the managers position before the suspension took place. Are we waiting till after the Celtic game so the odds of a win in his first game increase?

Scotty Leither
02-02-2019, 10:37 PM
Why the delay tho?
I think the board must have been looking for some time at the managers position before the suspension took place. Are we waiting till after the Celtic game so the odds of a win in his first game increase?

Who knows? And I think inadvertently you've maybe hit on how this **** storm erupted in the first place!

SMAXXA
02-02-2019, 10:37 PM
Won’t expect an appointment swift they will take their time this week meeting with candidates after shortlisting them wouldn’t surpise me if it’s the following week

The Harp Awakes
02-02-2019, 10:41 PM
Won’t expect an appointment swift they will take their time this week meeting with candidates after shortlisting them wouldn’t surpise me if it’s the following week

Holding your breath waiting on an announcement from the Hibs board is never a good idea. The Sun will let us know who our next boss is no doubt.

SMAXXA
02-02-2019, 10:44 PM
Holding your breath waiting on an announcement from the Hibs board is never a good idea. The Sun will let us know who our next boss is sadly.

Yeah I hear you.

Made up my mind go all out and get either Steve Clarke or Michael O’Neil that’s my 2 preference unfortunately I can’t see either but you never know, more chance with them than say Zidane I guess 👍

Joe6-2
02-02-2019, 10:45 PM
Who knows? And I think inadvertently you've maybe hit on how this **** storm erupted in the first place!

Exactly!

Colin191078
02-02-2019, 10:57 PM
Grayson into evens with PP

Better get onto skybet cos he’s 11/2
No chance

Colin191078
02-02-2019, 11:04 PM
Paul Heckingbottom is on a 6 man shortlist Hibs want to speak to, done a great job at Barnsley but got a raw deal at Leeds beacause the owner tried to pick the team, highly thought of down south and could be a good appointment for Hibs, currently 20/1

Wheat Hound
02-02-2019, 11:11 PM
Paul Heckingbottom is on a 6 man shortlist Hibs want to speak to, done a great job at Barnsley but got a raw deal at Leeds beacause the owner tried to pick the team, highly thought of down south and could be a good appointment for Hibs, currently 20/1

His record and background sound interesting and like he would fit into our model/structure.

Daydreamer
02-02-2019, 11:17 PM
Paul Heckingbottom is on a 6 man shortlist Hibs want to speak to, done a great job at Barnsley but got a raw deal at Leeds beacause the owner tried to pick the team, highly thought of down south and could be a good appointment for Hibs, currently 20/1


No chance.! Job is filled waiting on Petrie and Dumpster sorting out her leaving package!!!

CallumLaidlaw
02-02-2019, 11:32 PM
No chance.! Job is filled waiting on Petrie and Dumpster sorting out her leaving package!!!

Dumpster? Truly pathetic.


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Malthibby
02-02-2019, 11:40 PM
No chance.! Job is filled waiting on Petrie and Dumpster sorting out her leaving package!!!

Pathetic doesn't come close, don't know what else this guy has written but this should have no lace on HN.

Daydreamer
02-02-2019, 11:45 PM
[QUOTE=Malthibby;5695548]Pathetic doesn't come close, don't know what else this guy has written but this should have no lace on HN.[/QUOTE

Petrie employed her and Petrie will decide when she leaves !!

B.H.F.C
03-02-2019, 12:31 AM
Won’t expect an appointment swift they will take their time this week meeting with candidates after shortlisting them wouldn’t surpise me if it’s the following week

Everything is slow. They’ve been looking for a new manager for 8 days now. And if they weren’t, they should have been because we all knew the suspension was leading to him leaving his position.

Easter Road was dull today. The way the team was set up was dull. And the way the team played was dull.

We need someone in by Raith. We need a lift.

plasterer253
03-02-2019, 01:14 AM
:confused:
Dumpster? Truly pathetic.


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Captain Trips
03-02-2019, 02:17 AM
I like current Motherwell manager Stephen Robinson think he has done OK so far with Motherwell.

wpj
03-02-2019, 04:04 AM
So what I have learned tonight is,a glass of wine over Petrie is now passé a punch, ideally a knockout is now required to draw the wrath of the tache
The standard of a website, wiki page, reputation or even a proven record means SFA if we dont like the face. At least we are narrowing the candidates down.

Hermit Crab
03-02-2019, 04:06 AM
No chance.! Job is filled waiting on Petrie and Dumpster sorting out her leaving package!!!


Typo, bevvy or just a plain insult towards our CEO?

GordonHFC
03-02-2019, 05:32 AM
[QUOTE=Malthibby;5695548]Pathetic doesn't come close, don't know what else this guy has written but this should have no lace on HN.[/QUOTE

Petrie employed her and Petrie will decide when she leaves !!

You may also find that she has the final say when she leaves.

makaveli1875
03-02-2019, 06:11 AM
Typo, bevvy or just a plain insult towards our CEO?

Only person iv ever heard call her dumpster is a stupid jambo at work.

IanM
03-02-2019, 06:17 AM
Better get onto skybet cos he’s 11/2
No chance

20/1

bingo70
03-02-2019, 06:25 AM
20/1

That’ll come tumbling down now there’s a story in the paper about him.

I think he sounds a really interesting guy and on the face of it would be a good appointment. My concern is that in his two jobs to date he seems to have strong opinions on what his clubs have done wrong in the transfer market. If it’s a head coach we’re after and not a manager then I can see trouble ahead on that front.

https://www.coachesvoice.com/paul-heckingbottom-talks-leaving-barnsley/

we are hibs
03-02-2019, 06:27 AM
That status will never be soured

Didn't take some hibs fans long to turn on stokes last season.

LancsHibs
03-02-2019, 07:08 AM
Paul Heckingbottom is on a 6 man shortlist Hibs want to speak to, done a great job at Barnsley but got a raw deal at Leeds beacause the owner tried to pick the team, highly thought of down south and could be a good appointment for Hibs, currently 20/1

Good shout, had a good record at Leeds of bringing through their academy players. Would be better than Grayson or many of the other names being touted.

we are hibs
03-02-2019, 07:57 AM
https://www.coachesvoice.com/paul-heckingbottom-talks-leaving-barnsley/


Interesting read..

killie-hibby
03-02-2019, 08:01 AM
Paul Heckingbottom is on a 6 man shortlist Hibs want to speak to, done a great job at Barnsley but got a raw deal at Leeds beacause the owner tried to pick the team, highly thought of down south and could be a good appointment for Hibs, currently 20/1

I hope Danny Cowley and his brother Nicky are on the list.

Leith Green
03-02-2019, 08:04 AM
Of all the names i have seen mentioned , Heckingbottom is probably the one that would excite me the most. He did an excellent job at Barnsley and was unfortunate with the circumstances at Leeds

we are hibs
03-02-2019, 08:07 AM
Paul Heckingbottom is on a 6 man shortlist Hibs want to speak to, done a great job at Barnsley but got a raw deal at Leeds beacause the owner tried to pick the team, highly thought of down south and could be a good appointment for Hibs, currently 20/1



One of my mates is a leeds fan and said the owner didn't pick the team. That was the previous owner and he worked under the current one. He also said this leeds side that's currently doing well is mostly the same as the one Heckingbottom had and Heckingbottom struggled with them.

roo62
03-02-2019, 08:09 AM
Of all the names i have seen mentioned , Heckingbottom is probably the one that would excite me the most. He did an excellent job at Barnsley and was unfortunate with the circumstances at Leeds

Wonder if that will impact Stevie Mallan's game time if he is the new appointment.

Leith Green
03-02-2019, 08:17 AM
Wonder if that will impact Stevie Mallan's game time if he is the new appointment.

Good point. Had totally forgot that he would have signed him for Barnsley. He obviously didnt fancy him much after he had , his game time was limited down there.

Leith Green
03-02-2019, 08:21 AM
One of my mates is a leeds fan and said the owner didn't pick the team. That was the previous owner and he worked under the current one. He also said this leeds side that's currently doing well is mostly the same as the one Heckingbottom had and Heckingbottom struggled with them.

The guy only got 4 months in the job , and didnt have a transfer window in that time. Appointed in Feb , gone at the end of the season. Id put that in the harshly treated category.

Ozyhibby
03-02-2019, 08:26 AM
Interview with Heckingbottom here.

https://www.coachesvoice.com/paul-heckingbottom-talks-leaving-barnsley/


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Beefster
03-02-2019, 08:32 AM
I really hope the club are interviewing all day tomorrow and Monday with a view to having the new boy in and taking training on Tuesday.

May is like a rabbit in headlights and is very much a victim of current circumstances, but his line-up today for a guy who was basically getting a free hit was dull and unimaginative, and that's the performance we got.

I always expect us to have a go whoever we're playing at Easter Road,but you need players that can actually run past players to do that.

An update tomorrow or Monday as to how things are progressing wouldn't be too much to ask of the club either.

You’ve got this habit of pretending to be reasonable whilst asking for something that you know won’t happen. Likely so that you can then moan about it later.

May has already said he expects the process to take a week or two from now and that May will still be in charge for the Raith game.

Leith Green
03-02-2019, 08:39 AM
You’ve got this habit of pretending to be reasonable whilst asking for something that you know won’t happen. Likely so that you can then moan about it later.

May has already said he expects the process to take a week or two from now and that May will still be in charge for the Raith game.



Agree. Lets take the time it requires to get the right manager in. No point rushing into a poor appointment

bingo70
03-02-2019, 08:47 AM
You’ve got this habit of pretending to be reasonable whilst asking for something that you know won’t happen. Likely so that you can then moan about it later.

May has already said he expects the process to take a week or two from now and that May will still be in charge for the Raith game.

I don’t think May has said that?

Interview I read yesterday he said he is planning for being in charge for the game on Wednesday but if the new guy is employed before then then great. He certainly didn’t rule it out.

Imo the club would have started the process of identifying the replacement as soon as Lennon was suspended, they couldn’t make any moves until he had left but as soon as it was official we’d have made contact with our shortlist at the end of last week with a view to interviewing them this week coming.

I think we’ll have a new manager in place for the Raith game.

Mr Grieves
03-02-2019, 08:48 AM
I work with a Leeds fan and he is very 'meh' about Heckingbottom.

Heckingbottom had to play a lot of academy players and ended up in the lower half of the championship, doing worse than Christiansen before him and Bielsa after. Also, his win % wherever he's managed has been poor.

Beefster
03-02-2019, 08:53 AM
I don’t think May has said that?

Interview I read yesterday he said he is planning for being in charge for the game on Wednesday but if the new guy is employed before then then great. He certainly didn’t rule it out.

Imo the club would have started the process of identifying the replacement as soon as Lennon was suspended, they couldn’t make any moves until he had left but as soon as it was official we’d have made contact with our shortlist at the end of last week with a view to interviewing them this week coming.

I think we’ll have a new manager in place for the Raith game.

On BBC Scotland yesterday, I’m sure he said something along the lines of 10 days and definitely in the dugout for Celtic and probably Raith.

He definitely didn’t suggest that the new guy would be taking training on Tuesday.

CapitalGreen
03-02-2019, 08:58 AM
Paul Hurst would be my preference of the names mentioned so far. 3 promotions with 3 different teams and then took over Shrewsbury when they were bottom of League 1 and lead them to 3rd the following season with a budget that was a fraction of the other promotion contenders.

He has been managing for 10 years, managed over 500 games and if you exclude his 15 game spell at the basket case Ipswich his win % is over 50%.

eastcoasthibby
03-02-2019, 09:00 AM
No chance.! Job is filled waiting on Petrie and Dumpster sorting out her leaving package!!!

Dumpster ...!!! Have a look at the bigger picture and the job done by LD rather than taking on what I expect is a view Lennon is an innocent party, he got a massive amount of support and leeway from LD and the board with his antics over the past 3-4 months most of which will never be confirmed as I suspect it might mean he.would.struggle to get a decent job again. Anyhow back.to moving.forward,.she is exactly what Hibs need as our CEO and we.should be thankful she is here progressing our club.
I dread to think if she goes what we end up with in her place ...!!!

we are hibs
03-02-2019, 09:02 AM
Paul Hurst would be my preference of the names mentioned so far. 3 promotions with 3 different teams and then took over Shrewsbury when they were bottom of League 1 and lead them to 3rd the following season with a budget that was a fraction of the other promotion contenders.

He has been managing for 10 years, managed over 500 games and if you exclude his 15 game spell at the basket case Ipswich his win % is over 50%.



It appears the main 3 under contention is hurst heckingbottom and doolan. Out those 3 mine would be Hurst too.

CapitalGreen
03-02-2019, 09:06 AM
It appears the main 3 under contention is hurst heckingbottom and doolan. Out those 3 mine would be Hurst too.

https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/sport-opinion/not-appointing-paul-hurst-would-2246246

Good article from the PM board by a player who played under him at Grimsby.

Speedway
03-02-2019, 09:09 AM
Still Alex Neil for me.

BILLYHIBS
03-02-2019, 09:12 AM
DR makes Paul Heckingbottom the leading contender

I know I know won’t even bother posting the link :greengrin

bingo70
03-02-2019, 09:17 AM
Lot of talk over win % on this thread, when the managers we are considering have achieved promotions, probably earlier than their club expected i don’t really think it’s a relevant stat.

Manager gets a club promoted and keeps them in the league the following season then that’s a great result and they’ll have done a good job but their win % won’t look particularly good.

It’s similar to the managing by spreadsheet culture that seems to be creeping into the game, i can’t stand it.

bingo70
03-02-2019, 09:19 AM
Still Alex Neil for me.

If he knocks us back go in for Guardiola?

In all seriousness why would a manager doing well in the Championship leave their to come to us?

CapitalGreen
03-02-2019, 09:20 AM
It’s similar to the managing by spreadsheet culture that seems to be creeping into the game, i can’t stand it.

What does this even mean?

Ozyhibby
03-02-2019, 09:22 AM
https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/sport-opinion/not-appointing-paul-hurst-would-2246246

Good article from the PM board by a player who played under him at Grimsby.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190203/b4fdc12dfd587e5d929c65e7d3c80884.jpg

Like the sound of this. Of our 6 defensive players yesterday, only Paul Hanlon was under 30. That’s not balance. Lucky Whittaker wasn’t playing.



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bingo70
03-02-2019, 09:27 AM
What does this even mean?

Players being judged by stats.

You watch a player and think he’s a huddy but you later read people saying he’s good because he actually had 52 touches in the opposition box, covered 10km, had 34 crosses and was involved in 3 dangerous attacks.

Things like that, it annoys me.

Ozyhibby
03-02-2019, 09:29 AM
Players being judged by stats.

You watch a player and think he’s a huddy but you later read people saying he’s good because he actually had 52 touches in the opposition box, covered 10km, had 34 crosses and was involved in 3 dangerous attacks.

Things like that, it annoys me.

You need both because we all have natural biases.


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04Sauzee
03-02-2019, 09:31 AM
DR makes Paul Heckingbottom the leading contender

I know I know won’t even bother posting the link :greengrin

Seems to have done well in the game and seems to have a trusted No2 in Chris Doig , doing some research on Doig and he seems to have a good reputation as a coach.
They would be a very young coaching team.
I like that he likes young hungry players with a point to prove but will our player recruitment team look for these kind of players?

DJ HIBBY
03-02-2019, 09:32 AM
Seems to have done well in the game and seems to have a trusted No2 in Chris Doig , doing some research on Doig and he seems to have a good reputation as a coach.
They would be a very young coaching team.
I like that he likes young hungry players with a point to prove but will our player recruitment team look for these kind of players?

Think that article is Paul Hurst though

Mr Grieves
03-02-2019, 09:34 AM
Paul Hurst would be my preference of the names mentioned so far. 3 promotions with 3 different teams and then took over Shrewsbury when they were bottom of League 1 and lead them to 3rd the following season with a budget that was a fraction of the other promotion contenders.

He has been managing for 10 years, managed over 500 games and if you exclude his 15 game spell at the basket case Ipswich his win % is over 50%.

I would go for Hurst too. What's going on at Ipswich? I noticed there's been no improvement in their form since Lambert has taken charge

Beefster
03-02-2019, 09:35 AM
Seems to have done well in the game and seems to have a trusted No2 in Chris Doig , doing some research on Doig and he seems to have a good reputation as a coach.
They would be a very young coaching team.
I like that he likes young hungry players with a point to prove but will our player recruitment team look for these kind of players?

Wrong guy.

bingo70
03-02-2019, 09:38 AM
I would go for Hurst too. What's going on atbIpswich? I noticed there's been no improvement in their form since Lambert has taken charge

I think Mick McCarthy had them punching above their weight, Their fans didn’t like the style of football so they wanted rid of him and they expected Hurst to come in and change their style of football while getting better results on a poor budget and presumably with players who probably liked McCarthy.

An Ipswich fan will probably come on here and tell me I’m talking a lot of rubbish but that’s my perception from the little I paid attention.

There’s probably not been any noticeable improvement as Paul Lambert is a terrible manager and an extremely strange appointment.

04Sauzee
03-02-2019, 09:40 AM
Wrong guy.

Correct I watched an interview with Paul Hurst and read about the other Paul . Sorry guys

CapitalGreen
03-02-2019, 09:43 AM
Players being judged by stats.

You watch a player and think he’s a huddy but you later read people saying he’s good because he actually had 52 touches in the opposition box, covered 10km, had 34 crosses and was involved in 3 dangerous attacks.

Things like that, it annoys me.

Not sure exactly how the example could be described as management by spreadsheet, sounds like it’s people using stats to back their opinions that annoys you.

Every manager and professional sports club will use stats and performance metrics to aide decision making in some degree.

In regards to using win % as a metric in these new manager discussions, I’ve not seen anyone quote win % in isolation without providing context around how it was achieved.

highland hibbee
03-02-2019, 09:53 AM
Paul Hurst would be my preference of the names mentioned so far. 3 promotions with 3 different teams and then took over Shrewsbury when they were bottom of League 1 and lead them to 3rd the following season with a budget that was a fraction of the other promotion contenders.

He has been managing for 10 years, managed over 500 games and if you exclude his 15 game spell at the basket case Ipswich his win % is over 50%.


From what youve written there, that’s the kind of manager I’d be happy with.

Look forward to him dishing out the “ curse of the hurst “ to Harry Potter across the city!,

CRAZYHIBBY
03-02-2019, 09:58 AM
Heckingbottoms green and white army........just doesnt sound right

Callum_62
03-02-2019, 10:02 AM
Heckingbottoms green and white army........just doesnt sound right

Paul Bottoms Green and White Army

Fits perfectly


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Crab apple
03-02-2019, 10:06 AM
Sunday Times suggesting references have been asked for several options, including for Michael Appleton.

Billy Whizz
03-02-2019, 10:17 AM
Sunday Times suggesting references have been asked for several options, including for Michael Appleton.

How many jobs has he had!!!

CapitalGreen
03-02-2019, 10:18 AM
How many jobs has he had!!!

4

Billy Whizz
03-02-2019, 10:23 AM
4

Doesn’t seem to have lasted long at many, apart from Oxford

CapitalGreen
03-02-2019, 10:30 AM
Doesn’t seem to have lasted long at many, apart from Oxford

He wouldn’t be near the top of my list.

McIntosh
03-02-2019, 10:33 AM
Still Alex Neil for me. and me also

Captain Trips
03-02-2019, 10:33 AM
Still Steve Robinson at Motherwell for me.

Silky
03-02-2019, 10:43 AM
Doesn’t seem to have lasted long at many, apart from Oxford

Not many last long at Hibs either!!

Manxhibs
03-02-2019, 10:44 AM
Ian Holloway on goals on Sunday today and says he's keen to get back into football. Loves working with young players - would you take him?

Hermit Crab
03-02-2019, 10:46 AM
Ian Holloway on goals on Sunday today and says he's keen to get back into football. Loves working with young players - would you take him?


We couldn't afford him!

bigwheel
03-02-2019, 10:47 AM
and me also

We would be as well wishing for Guardiola ..why would he reduce his salary by more than a half, take less budget to work with, to come to us ?? Can’t see any chance of that being a sensible career move for him

Our only chance to get him would be if he was out if a job ...

mcfly
03-02-2019, 10:51 AM
Let’s show real ambition and go for Steve Clarke

If he says no then fine but he’s the best candidate for me

Silky
03-02-2019, 11:02 AM
Let’s show real ambition and go for Steve Clarke

If he says no then fine but he’s the best candidate for me

I get that. But then if he says no, does that not indicate a lack of ambition!!! If he turns us down we're clearly not ambitious enough for him.

Speedway
03-02-2019, 11:06 AM
I get that. But then if he says no, does that not indicate a lack of ambition!!! If he turns us down we're clearly not ambitious enough for him.

We have the ambition to ask, he simply wouldn’t have the ambition to say yes because it’s ambitious to suggest that our ambition is enough to match Clarke’s ambition given how ambitious he has been with Killie.

We have to be far more ambitious with our level of ambition otherwise we’ll lose out on our ambition due to other clubs being more ambitious than us.

Montford
03-02-2019, 11:14 AM
We’ve been on an upward cycle for 3 years now. Crowds, big games, attractive football, European competition, record season tickets etc.. been a proper feel good factor around the club. This appointment is pivotal to continued upward trajectory.
If we do the usual Hibs thing of relatively unknown, risqué “good with developing youth but f*** all else” type appointment then we may enter a decline again.
The next manager has to be on a par, or above, with Lennon status in the game. I’ve got that horrible sinking Fenlonesque rumble in my guts.
Stop scouring England’s lower leagues for out of work managers.
Managing Hibs, with its infrastructure, fan base, stadium and history coupled with the lifestyle of Edinburgh (which after London is arguably the UKs most appealing city in which to live and work), must surely be an attractive proposition to some of Europe’s better coaches.
This is where Dempster must earn her corn. She’s been fortunate to ride the cup final wave to date..

CapitalGreen
03-02-2019, 11:17 AM
Let’s show real ambition and go for Steve Clarke

If he says no then fine but he’s the best candidate for me

Maybe we already have and he’s said no?

CapitalGreen
03-02-2019, 11:18 AM
We’ve been on an upward cycle for 3 years now. Crowds, big games, attractive football, European competition, record season tickets etc.. been a proper feel good factor around the club. This appointment is pivotal to continued upward trajectory.
If we do the usual Hibs thing of relatively unknown, risqué “good with developing youth but f*** all else” type appointment then we may enter a decline again.
The next manager has to be on a par, or above, with Lennon status in the game. I’ve got that horrible sinking Fenlonesque rumble in my guts.
Stop scouring England’s lower leagues for out of work managers.
Managing Hibs, with its infrastructure, fan base, stadium and history coupled with the lifestyle of Edinburgh (which after London is arguably the UKs most appealing city in which to live and work), must surely be an attractive proposition to some of Europe’s better coaches.
This is where Dempster must earn her corn. She’s been fortunate to ride the cup final wave to date..

Who would be your top 3 realistic choices?

Ozyhibby
03-02-2019, 11:20 AM
We have the ambition to ask, he simply wouldn’t have the ambition to say yes because it’s ambitious to suggest that our ambition is enough to match Clarke’s ambition given how ambitious he has been with Killie.

We have to be far more ambitious with our level of ambition otherwise we’ll lose out on our ambition due to other clubs being more ambitious than us.

I agree we should go for Clarke. We need to start using the financial muscle the fans have given the club. We can offer Clarke a far more attractive package and significantly more resource than he has just now. It’s time we started going for the right people rather than who is unemployed.
Comes back to our failure to go for the like of Kamara and Shankland. We are too nice.
If Clarke is the best then that’s who we should go for.


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SON OF PADDY
03-02-2019, 11:23 AM
Dumpster? Truly pathetic.


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Some people just don't appreciate what they have!
LD have been fantastic for Hibs.

southsider
03-02-2019, 11:34 AM
My vote would be for John Doolan with Mark Venus as his No. 2.

ScottB
03-02-2019, 11:57 AM
We’ve been on an upward cycle for 3 years now. Crowds, big games, attractive football, European competition, record season tickets etc.. been a proper feel good factor around the club. This appointment is pivotal to continued upward trajectory.
If we do the usual Hibs thing of relatively unknown, risqué “good with developing youth but f*** all else” type appointment then we may enter a decline again.
The next manager has to be on a par, or above, with Lennon status in the game. I’ve got that horrible sinking Fenlonesque rumble in my guts.
Stop scouring England’s lower leagues for out of work managers.
Managing Hibs, with its infrastructure, fan base, stadium and history coupled with the lifestyle of Edinburgh (which after London is arguably the UKs most appealing city in which to live and work), must surely be an attractive proposition to some of Europe’s better coaches.
This is where Dempster must earn her corn. She’s been fortunate to ride the cup final wave to date..

The upward cycle that started with appointing exactly the sort of coach you’re saying we should avoid?

Don’t quite follow your logic there...

Michael
03-02-2019, 12:05 PM
Even if we could afford Steve Clarke I'd have a bad feeling about it. And honestly, it would be a pretty sideways step.

CapitalGreen
03-02-2019, 12:07 PM
Even if we could afford Steve Clarke I'd have a bad feeling about it. And honestly, it would be a pretty sideways step.

In what way would it be a sideways step?

The 90+2
03-02-2019, 12:07 PM
My vote would be for John Doolan with Mark Venus as his No. 2.

Why would veno leave being with Mogga for ages and the job they are doing at Blackburn.

Strachan with Doolan learning the ropes please.

Michael
03-02-2019, 12:12 PM
In what way would it be a sideways step?

Realistically neither us or Kilmarnock can hope for better than 3rd/4th in the league. We have a bigger fan base, but it's not large enough to compete with Celtic or Rangers financially.

mcfly
03-02-2019, 12:14 PM
Even if we could afford Steve Clarke I'd have a bad feeling about it. And honestly, it would be a pretty sideways step.

Eh??

How come - please explain this comment

Are you saying the names suggested are better than Steve Clarke?

Not in my opinion

CapitalGreen
03-02-2019, 12:14 PM
Realistically neither us or Kilmarnock can hope for better than 3rd/4th in the league. We have a bigger fan base, but it's not large enough to compete with Celtic or Rangers financially.

That’s the situation for any manager appointed. I’m not sure how it would make appointing Clarke a sideways step.

Michael
03-02-2019, 12:21 PM
That’s the situation for any manager appointed. I’m not sure how it would make appointing Clarke a sideways step.

From his perspective I mean. I'd find it a bit questionable if he decided to move to us.

Obviously the Hibs job is a better job. But, for someone whos stock is so high at a club in our division it wouldn't be the best career move.

CMurdoch
03-02-2019, 12:24 PM
Why would veno leave being with Mogga for ages and the job they are doing at Blackburn.

Strachan with Doolan learning the ropes please.

I like that suggestion a lot :aok:

jgl07
03-02-2019, 12:25 PM
Derek McInnes has done well with Aberdeen.
If McInness became Hibs manager, I would tear up my season card. Watching Aberdeen play was so eye-wateringly fab despite having a lot of talented players. All the diving, staying down and general use of gamesmanship would really piss me off. Even if the team were winning!

Lee Marvin
03-02-2019, 12:42 PM
If McInness became Hibs manager, I would tear up my season card. Watching Aberdeen play was so eye-wateringly fab despite having a lot of talented players. All the diving, staying down and general use of gamesmanship would really piss me off. Even if the team were winning!

Hibs need to learn to incorporate more of this into their game imo.

Wee Effen Bee
03-02-2019, 12:51 PM
If McInness became Hibs manager, I would tear up my season card. Watching Aberdeen play was so eye-wateringly fab despite having a lot of talented players. All the diving, staying down and general use of gamesmanship would really piss me off. Even if the team were winning!

‘This. All the gash that’s been spouted about us not being ‘cute’ or not facing up to petty, school-bairn, behaviours is, well, gash! I don’t want to watch a game where my team;
dives full length when someone breathes on them;
kicks the ball away from teammates when they’re going to take a throw in;
surrounds the ref after a teammate commits a stick-on wee foul;
commit copious fouls every time the other team get into our half and so on! Yes, last 10 mins or so everyone wastes a bit of time to hold on to a lead, but, FFS, Aberdeen and Hearts do this throughout the whole match. I noticed that, whenever we play these teams, it feels like we are finishing 1/2 an hour after everyone else. Wee exaggeration but I couldn’t watch it every week.

CapitalGreen
03-02-2019, 01:07 PM
From his perspective I mean. I'd find it a bit questionable if he decided to move to us.

Obviously the Hibs job is a better job. But, for someone whos stock is so high at a club in our division it wouldn't be the best career move.

Sorry, I get you know and I agree. Can’t see him moving from Killie to Hibs.

Montford
03-02-2019, 04:08 PM
The upward cycle that started with appointing exactly the sort of coach you’re saying we should avoid?

Don’t quite follow your logic there...

It’s plain, upward trajectory... Exactly started with Stubbs and stepped up with Lennon.. think of you gave anyone on here the choice between Lennon and Stubbs then there’d be very few who opted for the latter.
We’ve moved on a bit since Stubbs...

SHODAN
03-02-2019, 04:13 PM
My choice would now be Scot Gemmill.

Montford
03-02-2019, 04:15 PM
Who would be your top 3 realistic choices?

Jokanovic (Out of Work at present)
Steve Clarke
Gordon Strachan

Fuzzywuzzy
03-02-2019, 04:16 PM
Whoever it is I doubt very much it will be someone in a contract21658

Paddy power's latest

Montford
03-02-2019, 04:32 PM
Grayson would be an appalling appointment
Did nothing with Leeds (biggest club in championship)
Dire at Sunderland- led to their relegation
Non entity at Bradford
Why is he favourite????

Montford
03-02-2019, 04:33 PM
Grayson would be an appalling appointment
Did nothing with Leeds (biggest club in championship)
Dire at Sunderland- led to their relegation
Non entity at Bradford
Why is he favourite????

Knowing Hibs, maybe I’ve answered my own question

Captain Trips
03-02-2019, 04:37 PM
Steve Robinson would be a good fit for us I think, he has done well at Motherwell getting them to 2 finals. I really would look at him closely.

Fuzzywuzzy
03-02-2019, 04:38 PM
Knowing Hibs, maybe I’ve answered my own question

Tbh, it'll be like the press. They'll look at places like here to see who's being spoken about

Northernhibee
03-02-2019, 04:38 PM
Knowing Hibs, maybe I’ve answered my own question

The answer being...?

Montford
03-02-2019, 04:41 PM
The answer being...?

Grayson appointed Tuesday
Failure manager desperate to get back in work.
Hibs “come to us pal”

Northernhibee
03-02-2019, 04:44 PM
Grayson appointed Tuesday
Failure manager desperate to get back in work.
Hibs “come to us pal”

That doesn’t even make sense. Why would Hibs go “come to us pal”? Lennon had failed at Bolton when he cane to us, was that the same?

Montford
03-02-2019, 04:48 PM
That doesn’t even make sense. Why would Hibs go “come to us pal”? Lennon had failed at Bolton when he cane to us, was that the same?

Lennon has won 3 SPL titles. Rekindled the Celtic support. Reached the last 16 of the Champiins League. Beat Barcelona (best team on the planet) Knew Scottish football inside out.
Bolton were a basket case of a club (over £130 million in debt, players not being paid etc... easy to scratch that off)
Grayson has nothing of note to match Lennons achievements

WoreTheGreen
03-02-2019, 04:53 PM
[QUOTE=Montford;5696279]Lennon has won 3 SPL titles. Rekindled the Celtic support. Reached the last 16 of the Champiins League. Beat Barcelona (best team on the planet) Knew Scottish football inside out.
Bolton were a basket case of a club (over £130 million in debt, players not being paid etc... easy to scratch

bigwheel
03-02-2019, 05:04 PM
Steve Robinson would be a good fit for us I think, he has done well at Motherwell getting them to 2 finals. I really would look at him closely.

He plays the most industrial football in the league - right up Levein's tactical style....

Certainly has been good at bringing youngsters through mind you...but not s fan of his footballing style e.....


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CapitalGreen
03-02-2019, 05:04 PM
Jokanovic (Out of Work at present)
Steve Clarke
Gordon Strachan

All 3 of those at one time have been out of work having been sacked by a lower league team in England.




Stop scouring England’s lower leagues for out of work managers.

Gordy M
03-02-2019, 05:09 PM
LD and board have got the last 2 appointments correct imo. For that reason, im quite comfortable with whoever they deem to be the best fit for the club. Every manager mentioned will have positives and drawbacks, but im happy that LD will appoint the man they feel will be the best for the club....whoever that may be.

Big L
03-02-2019, 05:13 PM
Steve Robinson would be a good fit for us I think, he has done well at Motherwell getting them to 2 finals. I really would look at him closely.

He's WELL worth consideration. He's done well on a limited budget.

Montford
03-02-2019, 05:15 PM
All 3 of those at one time have been out of work having been sacked by a lower league team in England.

Lower Leagues = League 2 or League 1
If you call the Championship an English Lower League then you’re missing the point.
All 3 of those managers have managed in the EPL (best league in Europe?) Clarke has won everything as an assistant manager, EPL titles, Fa Cups etc.
Strachan last 16 Champions League(actually should’ve been last 8 if Nakamura hadn’t been denied a stonewall penalty in extra time in the SAN Siro), Fa cup finals, SPL titles.
Jokanovic won the Championship play offs (bottle) and had his team playing a dynamic style of football that would suit Hibs

bingo70
03-02-2019, 05:19 PM
Lower Leagues = League 2 or League 1
If you call the Championship an English Lower League then you’re missing the point.
All 3 of those managers have managed in the EPL (best league in Europe?) Clarke has won everything as an assistant manager, EPL titles, Fa Cups etc.
Strachan last 16 Champions League, Fa cup finals, SPL titles.
Jokanovic won the Championship play offs (bottle) and had his team playing a dynamic style of football that would suit Hibs

Jokanovic turned down the Stoke (or maybe Nottingham Forest actually?) job apparently as he’s asking for fortunes in wages.

I think you can score him off your list to be honest.

Montford
03-02-2019, 05:25 PM
Jokanovic turned down the Stoke (or maybe Nottingham Forest actually?) job apparently as he’s asking for fortunes in wages.

I think you can score him off your list to be honest.

I didn’t realise that, but this is the type of coach I’d aim for if Clarke or Strachan aren’t involved.
Maybe Clarke is thinking “If I can do this with Killie, maybe the league would be a possibility with Hibs”
Any manager who breaks the old firm dominance, the first since Ferguson, could virtually name their price for a top EPL job.

SHODAN
03-02-2019, 05:27 PM
If McInness became Hibs manager, I would tear up my season card. Watching Aberdeen play was so eye-wateringly fab despite having a lot of talented players. All the diving, staying down and general use of gamesmanship would really piss me off. Even if the team were winning!

Aye, must be horrible watching your team finish 2nd every year, reach cup finals and turn over your rivals all the time.

bingo70
03-02-2019, 05:38 PM
I didn’t realise that, but this is the type of coach I’d aim for if Clarke or Strachan aren’t involved.
Maybe Clarke is thinking “If I can do this with Killie, maybe the league would be a possibility with Hibs”
Any manager who breaks the old firm dominance, the first since Ferguson, could virtually name their price for a top EPL job.

I’ve not got a problem with people being ambitious, I just hope people don’t use Clarke as a stick to beat the club with when we inevitably don’t get him. I can almost hear the criticism now, “wee bit ambition and we could have got Clarke”......imo the reality is miles from that, imo we’ve no chance as we’re not competing with Killie for him, we’re competing with places he could go to very soon, probably Celtic, Scotland or the Championship and we can’t get close to them.

FWIW my ambitious but realistically no chance of getting him shout was Arteta.

My logic was that he came to Scotland at the start of his playing career and it worked out well for him so he may consider the same for his management career, on top of that he’ll have seen gerrard coming up here and doing well, He’ll have an eye on getting the City job after Guardiola and getting this job would do wonders for his experience. We also seem to have a good relationship with City so he may know a bit about us having a good set up. As i said though, sure we’ve no chance, it’s just a name that’s crossed my mind when I’ve been day dreaming.

Montford
03-02-2019, 05:57 PM
I’ve not got a problem with people being ambitious, I just hope people don’t use Clarke as a stick to beat the club with when we inevitably don’t get him. I can almost hear the criticism now, “wee bit ambition and we could have got Clarke”......imo the reality is miles from that, imo we’ve no chance as we’re not competing with Killie for him, we’re competing with places he could go to very soon, probably Celtic, Scotland or the Championship and we can’t get close to them
FWIW my ambitious but realistically no chance of getting him shout was Arteta.

My logic was that he came to Scotland at the start of his playing career and it worked out well for him so he may consider the same for his management career, on top of that he’ll have seen gerrard coming up here and doing well, He’ll have an eye on getting the City job after Guardiola and getting this job would do wonders for his experience. We also seem to have a good relationship with City so he may know a bit about us having a good set up. As i said though, sure we’ve no chance, it’s just a name that’s crossed my mind when I’ve been day dreaming.


That could be some link up. Arteta earning his managerial stripes, whilst being groomed for the City job (is this not a Spanish type of progression planning anyway). And using the surplus City squad to compliment our own youth.. but can dream

04Sauzee
03-02-2019, 06:04 PM
That could be some link up. Arteta earning his managerial stripes, whilst being groomed for the City job (is this not a Spanish type of progression planning anyway). And using the surplus City squad to compliment our own youth.. but can dream

Genuine questions as I don't know the answers
Is there a limit on the number of loan players you can have at a club
Is there a limit on the number of loan players you can have from one club?

Speedway
03-02-2019, 06:06 PM
Ronny Deila anyone?

04Sauzee
03-02-2019, 06:12 PM
Ronny Deila anyone?

Something you heard or just throwing a name out there?

Paul Scholes was quoted for the Oldham gig, seems to have gone quiet

bingo70
03-02-2019, 06:18 PM
Ronny Deila anyone?

I mentioned him when I saw Collins was at the game at the weekend.

On the face of it he did a terrible job at Celtic but then so did Mowbray, I suspect that job was just too big for him, he must have done something right to get that job in the first place.

I wonder if John Park is involved in the process of finding a manager or will his role only focus on players?

Lago
03-02-2019, 06:20 PM
Ronny Deila anyone?
Steady !!

To be honest I am losing the will to live where Hibs are concerned, it's been a long 50 years of supporting them & it's not getting any easier to the point where I just want a manager/coach appointed, hopefully someone young, dynamic with ambition to to move to a higher level of club in due course. Is that too much to ask for ?

Billy Whizz
03-02-2019, 06:21 PM
Ronny Deila anyone?

Wonder who John Collins was working on behalf of yesterday🤣

Michael
03-02-2019, 06:26 PM
Genuine questions as I don't know the answers
Is there a limit on the number of loan players you can have at a club
Is there a limit on the number of loan players you can have from one club?

Not from different FAs as they count as transfers.

ionahibby
03-02-2019, 06:47 PM
Wasn’t doolan close to getting the gig when we employed Lennon so I would think he would be favourite?

bingo70
03-02-2019, 06:49 PM
Wasn’t doolan close to getting the gig when we employed Lennon so I would think he would be favourite?

Yes, someone posted a link to the article where he said he had the chance to stay however due to his dad passing away and other family issues at the time it made sense for him to move back closer to home.

I’d be delighted with Doolan getting the job

CelticEnd
03-02-2019, 08:44 PM
On the face of it he did a terrible job at Celtic but then so did Mowbray, I suspect that job was just too big for him, he must have done something right to get that job in the first place.


He never done terrible.

He got the thing rolling for a while and was denied of a good crack at the Treble by a terrible refereeing performance in the Cup Semi vs Inverness.

Few months later his team imploded in Malmo and that was the beginning of the end.

Van Dijk, Armstrong, Rogic, McGregor, Tierney and Griffiths all came on a lot under him and Collins.

Would be a good appointment. Won the Norwegian league ahead of Solskjaer with a far smaller budget.

BobMilne
03-02-2019, 09:14 PM
Ronny Deila anyone?

Good out of the blue call. I quite like this idea

Callum_62
03-02-2019, 09:17 PM
Ronny Deila anyone?

Did wonder when Collins was there

Hes at Valerenga - mid table last year (disappointing apparently)

Managerial statistics[edit]
As of match played 13 August 2018
Team Nat From To Record
G W D L Win %
Brodd Norway 1 June 2005 6 October 2005 12 7 2 3 58.33
Strømsgodset Norway 20 November 2008 6 June 2014 187 85 40 62 45.45
Celtic Scotland 6 June 2014[11] 15 May 2016 118 75 23 20 63.56
Vålerenga Norway 1 January 2017 Present 61 27 14 20 44.26
Total 377 193 79 105 51.19

Smartie
03-02-2019, 09:23 PM
He never done terrible.

He got the thing rolling for a while and was denied of a good crack at the Treble by a terrible refereeing performance in the Cup Semi vs Inverness.

Few months later his team imploded in Malmo and that was the beginning of the end.

Van Dijk, Armstrong, Rogic, McGregor, Tierney and Griffiths all came on a lot under him and Collins.

Would be a good appointment. Won the Norwegian league ahead of Solskjaer with a far smaller budget.

That's interesting to hear, cheers.

We moan about the biased perspective that the Scottish media put on a number of things. You'd swear Deila was a total dud and Rodgers was some sort of messiah based on them.

It appears that there are a number of strong candidates out there.

It's funny how folk will turn up their noses at someone based on an unglamorous name, a single failed stint at a club that was doomed to be a failure before it even started, or a failed spell at a club that it turns out was actually anything but.

elevengoats
03-02-2019, 09:29 PM
Would love to see Ronny Deila at Hibs. We need an attack-minded manager.

Michael
03-02-2019, 09:35 PM
Would love to see Ronny Deila at Hibs. We need an attack-minded manager.

Thought the general consensus was that his football was pretty brutal at Celtic.

MacGruber
03-02-2019, 09:57 PM
Ronny Deila anyone?

No thank you. Absolutely not.

DetroitHibs
03-02-2019, 10:18 PM
Tony Mowbray's contract is up at Blackburn this year. Had us playing some of the best football I've seen at ER.

Keyser Sauzee
03-02-2019, 10:29 PM
Tony Mowbray's contract is up at Blackburn this year. Had us playing some of the best football I've seen at ER.

Got Blackburn promoted and is doing a decent job in the championship, he’s well out our league just now.

neil7908
03-02-2019, 10:35 PM
Yes, someone posted a link to the article where he said he had the chance to stay however due to his dad passing away and other family issues at the time it made sense for him to move back closer to home.

I’d be delighted with Doolan getting the job

I'd be highly sceptical about that. It would be a Sauzee type managerial appointment - only getting the gig due to his connection to the club.

Speedway
03-02-2019, 11:52 PM
Tony Mowbray's contract is up at Blackburn this year. Had us playing some of the best football I've seen at ER.

Few saw Hibs as more of a stepping stone than Saint Tony.

He won’t be back.

DetroitHibs
04-02-2019, 01:52 AM
One of the main reasons I'd rather we get a caretaker manager until the end of the season, gives us more options. Might see an Alex Neil, Mowbray or Jack Ross become available. Also I think it's our best chance of getting Steve Clarke. Killie might struggle with the players they have lost and Clarke might fancy a move while his stocks high. Lots of options in a season that's more or less a write off for us.

cabbageandribs1875
04-02-2019, 02:23 AM
One of the main reasons I'd rather we get a caretaker manager until the end of the season, gives us more options. Might see an Alex Neil, Mowbray or Jack Ross become available. Also I think it's our best chance of getting Steve Clarke. Killie might struggle with the players they have lost and Clarke might fancy a move while his stocks high. Lots of options in a season that's more or less a write off for us.



Mowbray's Blackburn still in the hunt for a play-off in the championship and jack ross will most likely be taking Sunderland up to the championship, i'd strike them off your wish list :agree:

we are hibs
04-02-2019, 05:53 AM
I mentioned him when I saw Collins was at the game at the weekend.

On the face of it he did a terrible job at Celtic but then so did Mowbray, I suspect that job was just too big for him, he must have done something right to get that job in the first place.

I wonder if John Park is involved in the process of finding a manager or will his role only focus on players?

John Park is back at the club?

Greenworld
04-02-2019, 06:17 AM
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bingo70
04-02-2019, 06:19 AM
John Park is back at the club?

He has got a scouting consultancy business I think and I’m sure I read that we’ve used them recently. He was certainly pictured at a game with Petrie a season or two back when it was rumoured we were using them.

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04-02-2019, 06:20 AM
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blackpoolhibs
04-02-2019, 06:53 AM
If McInness became Hibs manager, I would tear up my season card. Watching Aberdeen play was so eye-wateringly fab despite having a lot of talented players. All the diving, staying down and general use of gamesmanship would really piss me off. Even if the team were winning!

I'm not sure you are actually watching them then, they are light years ahead of us in terms of strength, skill, quality, game management and tactics.

I'd kill for an attack and defence as good as there's, and as for our midfield, if we just had Shinnie, he'd be as good as all ours on his bloody own.

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04-02-2019, 07:23 AM
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If they seriously thought Grayson or whoever was getting job they would be around 1/33 they just put them up to create a market,id be very very surprised if the next manager is even on that list.

BlackSheep
04-02-2019, 10:02 AM
I would hope the next manager is appointed before Wednesday but doesnt take charge until the weekend... this way they can take a look at the Celtic game and see the team, then get a few days to meet the players and train etc....

Callum_62
04-02-2019, 10:15 AM
I would hope the next manager is appointed before Wednesday but doesnt take charge until the weekend... this way they can take a look at the Celtic game and see the team, then get a few days to meet the players and train etc....

I imagine there will be some interesting spectators on Weds

Depends when the process really got underway. Id be surprised if this week but then again they may have started the process as soon as lenny was suspended


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SMAXXA
04-02-2019, 10:29 AM
Leeds mate on Grayson when I asked is he as hopeless as Heckingbottom-

Nah, he's a legend. You'll win (or maybe lose) a lot of games 4-3. He got chucked into a hopeless situation at Sunderland so don't judge him on that.

we are hibs
04-02-2019, 10:50 AM
Leeds mate on Grayson when I asked is he as hopeless as Heckingbottom-

Nah, he's a legend. You'll win (or maybe lose) a lot of games 4-3. He got chucked into a hopeless situation at Sunderland so don't judge him on that.

Funnily enough I got the same kind of response from my leeds supporting mate. Said we will be excellent going forward but terrible at the back. So pretty much the perfect hibs manager

Steven79
04-02-2019, 10:53 AM
Leeds mate on Grayson when I asked is he as hopeless as Heckingbottom-

Nah, he's a legend. You'll win (or maybe lose) a lot of games 4-3. He got chucked into a hopeless situation at Sunderland so don't judge him on that.

He was hopeless at Bradford but the situation at the club didn't help I suppose.

Heisenberg
04-02-2019, 11:00 AM
He was hopeless at Bradford but the situation at the club didn't help I suppose.

He obviously hasn’t been advised very well. Took over Sunderland and then Bradford!

SMAXXA
04-02-2019, 11:25 AM
Funnily enough I got the same kind of response from my leeds supporting mate. Said we will be excellent going forward but terrible at the back. So pretty much the perfect hibs manager

Hahaha that made me laugh but so true

Mr Grieves
04-02-2019, 11:29 AM
Leeds mate on Grayson when I asked is he as hopeless as Heckingbottom-

Nah, he's a legend. You'll win (or maybe lose) a lot of games 4-3. He got chucked into a hopeless situation at Sunderland so don't judge him on that.

I work with a Leeds fan. He likes Grayson and thinks he would be a good appointment. He's not very complimentary about Heckingbottom though

Speedway
04-02-2019, 11:38 AM
Who from .net have we got stationed on 24 hour stakeouts of Peebles Hydro and Carlisle Services?

That's generally where we interview new potential mangers is it not?

Mainstandman
04-02-2019, 12:05 PM
Who from .net have we got stationed on 24 hour stakeouts of Peebles Hydro and Carlisle Services?

That's generally where we interview new potential mangers is it not?

I think Lennon was the Bearsden or Milngavie Premier Inn

worcesterhibby
04-02-2019, 12:22 PM
someone exciting, modern and uplifting please.

matty_f
04-02-2019, 12:23 PM
Who from .net have we got stationed on 24 hour stakeouts of Peebles Hydro and Carlisle Services?

That's generally where we interview new potential mangers is it not?

I'd normally volunteer but court injunction etc...

elevengoats
04-02-2019, 12:41 PM
someone exciting, modern and uplifting please.

This.

Hibbyradge
04-02-2019, 12:49 PM
My Leeds supporting mate sent me this about Grayson;

"He was at Leeds for 3 years or so. He did ok and got them out of the league 1 and into the Championship. Don’t expect good football. It was safe/calculated stuff. Not at all sure how he would cope north of the border."

worcesterhibby
04-02-2019, 12:56 PM
I would be amazed if we appoint anyone before Wednesday. Nothing much to be gained by making their first match Celtic away. Maybe have an agreement, but they will sit in the stand and watch. However the next three matches after that are Raith, Dundee and Hamilton all of which we SHOULD be winning. Be good to get someone in this week to lift the mood and galvanise the players..if we were to lose to Raith, it would feel like freefall.

Stonewall
04-02-2019, 01:00 PM
I think Lennon was the Bearsden or Milngavie Premier Inn

I heard it was the Aragon on Byers Road.

The 90+2
04-02-2019, 01:03 PM
What’s Burley up to these days?

bigwheel
04-02-2019, 01:04 PM
What’s Burley up to these days?


She is still working for Sky I think :aok:

Hibbyradge
04-02-2019, 01:06 PM
I would be amazed if we appoint anyone before Wednesday. Nothing much to be gained by making their first match Celtic away. Maybe have an agreement, but they will sit in the stand and watch. However the next three matches after that are Raith, Dundee and Hamilton all of which we SHOULD be winning. Be good to get someone in this week to lift the mood and galvanise the players..if we were to lose to Raith, it would feel like freefall.

I'm of a similar opinion.

Unfortunately, going to Celtc park under the current circumstances, is far from ideal and I don't hold out much hope that we'll get anything from the game.

Mind you, I remember we unexpectedly won 3-0 at Ibrox when we were in the doldrums a few years ago so you never know.

Would I be right in thinking Rankin scored all three goals?

The 90+2
04-02-2019, 01:07 PM
She is still working for Sky I think :aok:

😃

The 90+2
04-02-2019, 01:07 PM
I'm of a similar opinion.

Unfortunately, going to Celtc park under the current circumstances, is far from ideal and I don't hold out much hope that we'll get anything from the game.

Mind you, I remember we unexpectedly won 3-0 at Ibrox when we were in the doldrums a few years ago so you never know.

Would I be right in thinking Rankin scored all three goals?

Didn’t a Lithuanian forward score?

stantonhibby
04-02-2019, 01:09 PM
Didn’t a Lithuanian forward score?

Dickoh the Centre Half scored the 3rd I think. Liam Miller scored as well?

Keith_M
04-02-2019, 01:09 PM
someone exciting, modern and uplifting please.


What DO you mean?



:wink:

Hibbyradge
04-02-2019, 01:11 PM
Dickoh the Centre Half scored the 3rd I think. Liam Miller scored as well?

You're right.

Miller, Rankin and Dickoh, in that order.

Calderwood's first win.

The 90+2
04-02-2019, 01:15 PM
Dickoh the Centre Half scored the 3rd I think. Liam Miller scored as well?

👍 think Trackys played a blinder that game there’s my mix up.

The draw after McLeish left was unexpected at Ibrox too. Luna put up 1 up.

SHODAN
04-02-2019, 01:16 PM
You're right.

Miller, Rankin and Dickoh, in that order.

Calderwood's first win.

I still think that was one of the most surprising results in our history.

MacGruber
04-02-2019, 01:18 PM
Strachan for me. If he has said no tempt Steve Clarke. If a non runner bring in Stubbs and Doolan or if not Scott Gemmell. Job done.

Heckingbottom, Grayson, Delia etc no thanks.

Stubbs a conundrum. Good football, some superb signings and wins the scottish cup every time he's here.... but.. did leave us first chance and been pants elsewhere. Some people suit some clubs though.

There was a brigade that never wanted Allan back the second time because he chose to leave. Now we all want him back. Stubbs would be similar if he gets us going again.

Whatever it's to be lets do it quick

The 90+2
04-02-2019, 01:20 PM
Strachan for me. If he has said no tempt Steve Clarke. If a non runner bring in Stubbs and Doolan or if not Scott Gemmell. Job done.

Heckingbottom, Grayson, Delia etc no thanks.

Stubbs a conundrum. Good football, some superb signings and wins the scottish cup every time he's here.... but.. did leave us first chance and been pants elsewhere. Some people suit some clubs though.

There was a brigade that never wanted Allan back the second time because he chose to leave. Now we all want him back. Stubbs would be similar if he gets us going again.

Whatever it's to be lets do it quick

I don’t understand the amount of people saying Clarke is unrealistic when it clearly isn’t and he would get a higher wage and more money to spend.

1van Sprou7e
04-02-2019, 01:21 PM
Heard that there's no chance of Stubbs coming back as last time he was here he was pumping the physio...

.Sean.
04-02-2019, 01:22 PM
What about someone leftfield like Paul Scholes or is that a pipe dream?

G B Young
04-02-2019, 01:23 PM
Strachan for me. If he has said no tempt Steve Clarke. If a non runner bring in Stubbs and Doolan or if not Scott Gemmell. Job done.

Heckingbottom, Grayson, Delia etc no thanks.

Stubbs a conundrum. Good football, some superb signings and wins the scottish cup every time he's here.... but.. did leave us first chance and been pants elsewhere. Some people suit some clubs though.

There was a brigade that never wanted Allan back the second time because he chose to leave. Now we all want him back. Stubbs would be similar if he gets us going again.

Whatever it's to be lets do it quick

That's the key reason I'd be happy enough to see him back. He transformed the squad with a string of signings (and loanees) who were to form the core of our cup-winning side. I was surprised at the time that such high-quality players were willing to join a Championship club so a lot of the credit for that must go to Stubbs.

Oscar T Grouch
04-02-2019, 01:23 PM
See Clarke is calling out the inconsistency of refs in Scotland again. Making good points. I’d like him as manager but I don’t think we’ll tempt him away from Killie.

Keyser Sauzee
04-02-2019, 01:25 PM
I don’t understand the amount of people saying Clarke is unrealistic when it clearly isn’t and he would get a higher wage and more money to spend.

The reason folk think it’s unrealistic, and it is btw, is because he’s doing such a good job that he wouldn’t jeopardise a big move which is probably round the corner by coming to us, he doesn’t need to do that to get a decent club he will probably get one with the job he’s doing at Killie.

darwenhibby
04-02-2019, 01:26 PM
My Leeds supporting mate sent me this about Grayson;

"He was at Leeds for 3 years or so. He did ok and got them out of the league 1 and into the Championship. Don’t expect good football. It was safe/calculated stuff. Not at all sure how he would cope north of the border."
From another point of view my nephew was in the Blackpool squad that got promoted to the premier league
It was Grayson that moved him up to the first team squad when only 17/18
Grayson built the nucleus of the squad that Holloway Got Blackpool up in the play offs
Grayson got his move in managerial terms to Leeds
But he did give youth a chance there was also a guy called eastham who I think is still in the football league as well as the goalkeeper Gilkes
Grayson will give youth a chance and mix with experience
This will be good for the likes of Fraser Murray Sean Mackie as well as what I see as first team players Porteous and Shaw
If we were to take a chance I would go for beuzelin but
Grayson would be a safe pair of hands for the next 3 years

Hibbyradge
04-02-2019, 01:27 PM
I don’t understand the amount of people saying Clarke is unrealistic when it clearly isn’t and he would get a higher wage and more money to spend.

It's certainly unlikely in my book.

His team are currently challenging for second place and a European spot.

He'll be getting monitored by a lot of clubs with far more money than we can offer and he'll know this.

I wouldn't be rushing to sign for Hibs if I was him.

Another reason I'd steer clear is that he'll be poached sooner rather than later. The last thing we need is another managerial vacancy.

It's a pity though. I thought he was a fabulous player with St Mirren and he seems to be extremely competent as a coach too.

The 90+2
04-02-2019, 01:29 PM
The reason folk think it’s unrealistic, and it is btw, is because he’s doing such a good job that he wouldn’t jeopardise a big move which is probably round the corner by coming to us, he doesn’t need to do that to get a decent club he will probably get one with the job he’s doing at Killie.

We would be a big move for him. I’m not sure where else he would get a bigger move at the moment if we back him and with the players we have.

Hibbyradge
04-02-2019, 01:29 PM
Heard that there's no chance of Stubbs coming back as last time he was here he was pumping the physio...

:faf:

Straight to the point, I'll give you that.

K.Marx
04-02-2019, 01:30 PM
Heard that there's no chance of Stubbs coming back as last time he was here he was pumping the physio...

Stunned this has lasted 8 mins without being hauled down by the admins 😂

jacomo
04-02-2019, 01:31 PM
:faf:

Straight to the point, I'll give you that.


I admire this. So much better than the tedious hints from the ITK brigade.

HoboHarry
04-02-2019, 01:34 PM
We would be a big move for him. I’m not sure where else he would get a bigger move at the moment if we back him and with the players we have.
No we wouldn't. We would consider ourselves very fortunate if we were lucky enough to get him here.

Keyser Sauzee
04-02-2019, 01:35 PM
We would be a big move for him. I’m not sure where else he would get a bigger move at the moment if we back him and with the players we have.

We’re not a big move for him, he’ll be getting a championship job soon enough which is why he wouldn’t leave to come to us.

Ray_
04-02-2019, 01:38 PM
It's certainly unlikely in my book.

His team are currently challenging for second place and a European spot.

He'll be getting monitored by a lot of clubs with far more money than we can offer and he'll know this.

I wouldn't be rushing to sign for Hibs if I was him.

Another reason I'd steer clear is that he'll be poached sooner rather than later. The last thing we need is another managerial vacancy.

It's a pity though. I thought he was a fabulous player with St Mirren and he seems to be extremely competent as a coach too.

In spite of what you say, which is true BTW, their attendance on Friday was under 6,000, surely that would be motivation enough to move if he feels his efforts are not invoking the response from the public they deserve.

The 90+2
04-02-2019, 01:44 PM
It's certainly unlikely in my book.

His team are currently challenging for second place and a European spot.

He'll be getting monitored by a lot of clubs with far more money than we can offer and he'll know this.

I wouldn't be rushing to sign for Hibs if I was him.

Another reason I'd steer clear is that he'll be poached sooner rather than later. The last thing we need is another managerial vacancy.

It's a pity though. I thought he was a fabulous player with St Mirren and he seems to be extremely competent as a coach too.

Highly unlikely I would somewhat agree but we should be speaking and trying to convince him. An official approach accepted by Killie would definitely show ambition although I do agree we would be sitting ducks for other clubs to come in for him.

Can’t mind him as a player great coach though and highly respected down South.

The 90+2
04-02-2019, 01:46 PM
We’re not a big move for him, he’ll be getting a championship job soon enough which is why he wouldn’t leave to come to us.

Who’s to say the championship job will come up having lost his job already down there? Lennon only got Bolton, Stubbs Rotherham after all.

The 90+2
04-02-2019, 01:47 PM
No we wouldn't. We would consider ourselves very fortunate if we were lucky enough to get him here.

We get nearly treble the crowds Killie get and much higher player budget. How wouldn’t we?

Hibbyradge
04-02-2019, 01:47 PM
In spite of what you say, which is true BTW, their attendance on Friday was under 6,000, surely that would be motivation enough to move if he feels his efforts are not invoking the response from the public they deserve.

I'm not saying that we don't have advantages as a club, I just don't think they're compelling enough to entice Clarke.

For a start, he has an affection for Killie because he was a supporter as a boy.

There will eventually be vacancies elsewhere that he'll be interested in and his agent will do the rest.

He signed a new improved contract last summer and I think he'll see this season out before doing anything.

Hibbyradge
04-02-2019, 01:51 PM
Highly unlikely I would somewhat agree but we should be speaking and trying to convince him. An official approach accepted by Killie would definitely show ambition although I do agree we would be sitting ducks for other clubs to come in for him.

Can’t mind him as a player great coach though and highly respected down South.

I would think that an official approach will only be made if we're confident of getting him. Hibs won't want to risk the indignity of being rejected by him in public.

An off the record chat with his agent is all that's needed, but he's still got around 3 years of his contact left so it would be very expensive.

The 90+2
04-02-2019, 01:52 PM
I would think that an official approach will only be made if we're confident of getting him. An off the record chat with his agent is all that's needed, but he's still got around 3 years of his contact left so it would be very expensive.

True 👍

superfurryhibby
04-02-2019, 01:58 PM
Whoever comes in, it will be a budget option. No way will we see Clarke or Wright at Hibs.

jimbob07
04-02-2019, 02:06 PM
Shy Nairn’s get nowt

jimbob07
04-02-2019, 02:06 PM
Bairns!

Hibbyradge
04-02-2019, 02:06 PM
Whoever comes in, it will be a budget option. No way will we see Clarke or Wright at Hibs.

Like Lennon was?

And, shudder, Butcher.

Wilson
04-02-2019, 02:09 PM
Bairns!

I wouldn't give Nairn anything either.

MacGruber
04-02-2019, 02:10 PM
Heard that there's no chance of Stubbs coming back as last time he was here he was pumping the physio...

What are you trying to say exactly 😅

Keyser Sauzee
04-02-2019, 02:15 PM
Heard that there's no chance of Stubbs coming back as last time he was here he was pumping the physio...

Is this one of those cryptic messages? 🤷🏼*♂️

matty_f
04-02-2019, 02:18 PM
Whoever comes in, it will be a budget option. No way will we see Clarke or Wright at Hibs.

Correct, any manager coming in will have to be within our budget. I imagine all clubs operate like that.

There's no evidence that we'll go for a cheap option - why would we? The better the manager the better the club does on the pitch, the better the off-field performance is.

superfurryhibby
04-02-2019, 02:24 PM
Like Lennon was?

And, shudder, Butcher.

Time will tell.

Maybe we can use this as a measure of our boards current level of ambition?

eastmainsmsh
04-02-2019, 02:35 PM
Why go the untested route when Stubbs has stated he wants the job has won us the holy grail knows the club inside out get Taff and Doolan back as well

bigwheel
04-02-2019, 02:37 PM
Why go the untested route when Stubbs has stated he wants the job has won us the holy grail knows the club inside out get Taff and Doolan back as well


Unless there is a top quality candidate ready now - I don't see why we would get Stubbs in to give us a bit of a lift and momentum until the end of the season..then we could see how he has done and what other options are emerging - give us time to get it right..

Silky
04-02-2019, 03:16 PM
Stunned this has lasted 8 mins without being hauled down by the admins 😂

Unlike the physio's knickers. Allegedly!!:wink:

bod
04-02-2019, 03:26 PM
Unless there is a top quality candidate ready now - I don't see why we would get Stubbs in to give us a bit of a lift and momentum until the end of the season..then we could see how he has done and what other options are emerging - give us time to get it right..

What if Stubbs wanted a longer contract & a the old physio back ?

bigwheel
04-02-2019, 03:30 PM
What if Stubbs wanted a longer contract & a the old physio back ?

I’d mark “Needs to go on negotiating training course” on his development plan ...

SloopJB
04-02-2019, 03:41 PM
Whoever comes in, it will be a budget option. No way will we see Clarke or Wright at Hibs.
Of course whoever comes in will have to fit within a budget, it'd e daft to suggest otherwise.
My understanding re Clarke is he is only in Scottish football because he has an affinity with Kilmarnock.
Any move away from Killie will be a move away from Scotland.

Wright is working wonders and there will be people on here who would like to see him at Hibs and people on here who don't.

Is there any way you could post an opinion without it sounding like a dig at the club for doing something that hasn't happened yet?

erin go bragh
04-02-2019, 03:43 PM
It's certainly unlikely in my book.

His team are currently challenging for second place and a European spot.

He'll be getting monitored by a lot of clubs with far more money than we can offer and he'll know this.

I wouldn't be rushing to sign for Hibs if I was him.

Another reason I'd steer clear is that he'll be poached sooner rather than later. The last thing we need is another managerial vacancy.

It's a pity though. I thought he was a fabulous player with St Mirren and he seems to be extremely competent as a coach too.
On the poached comment . Whoever we appoint, if their a success, they will, no doubt be off . That’s why I would like Gordon Strachan as I don’t think he would leave if successful. Hibs fan and he wanted finish his playing career with us . So managing us could be appealing.