Women’s World Cup

[Hibernia&Alba]

hope solo desperately trying to fix up a long-term contract with the EBC

Give her the contract. She's a stoater :agree:

[Here’s Lucy!]

Good to see that sexism has got nowhere near the WWC thread. :rolleyes:

[HoboHarry]

Personally? Under 20.

Closely? 9

Yourself, Harold?
Lol - I've absolutely no idea. For starters though, my wife, both my kids, I became an American citizen in 2007, almost all of my neighbors and to cap it all I'm surrounded by them because I live in Texas. :faf::faf:

[Here’s Lucy!]

Lol - I've absolutely no idea. For starters though, my wife, both my kids, I became an American citizen in 2007, almost all of my neighbors and to cap it all I'm surrounded by them because I live in Texas. :faf::faf:

I like you, Harold.

You don’t take everything too seriously, and are therefore a poster on here that I look out for.

:aok:

[Saturday Boy]

Okay guys, how do we tap into the new interest in women’s football and boost attendance at the domestic Scottish game?

The SWPL doesn’t start again until August and Hibs Ladies first game is away to Glasgow City before a trip to Slovenia for the Champions League.

I’ve said it before on this forum, but it’s a great way to introduce young children, especially girls to football. The players all take time to speak with fans and do selfies.

Or whatever youngsters are doing these days 😄

[Just Jimmy]

I had an interesting chat with some Team USA fans in France just after Hope Solo’s savaging of Shelley Kerr. They were not impressed.

An attention seeker, obnoxious and not held in high regard by anyone involved in women’s football over there. Those were just the good things [emoji23]

A stick on for a job with the BBC then.she was spot on with what she said about kerr in the tournament.

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[One Day Soon]

Great to see that the BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation is leading the main evening news programme with England women’s football failure.

Meanwhile,..................


Seems fair enough to me. I've no doubt they'd do the same if it was ever Scotland on an equivalent news night. All we have to do is be a lot better to have a chance to find out.

[One Day Soon]

she was spot on with what she said about kerr in the tournament.

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What did she say about her.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Okay guys, how do we tap into the new interest in women’s football and boost attendance at the domestic Scottish game?

The SWPL doesn’t start again until August and Hibs Ladies first game is away to Glasgow City before a trip to Slovenia for the Champions League.

I’ve said it before on this forum, but it’s a great way to introduce young children, especially girls to football. The players all take time to speak with fans and do selfies.

Or whatever youngsters are doing these days 😄



the earliest league decider


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[marinello59]

Great to see that the BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation is leading the main evening news programme with England women’s football failure.

Meanwhile,..................

They played in a World Cup semi final. Plenty of us here were watching it as well. What’s the problem?

[sambajustice]

Alex Scott is a terrible pundit

She's a pain in the arse and gets everywhere!!!

[heretoday]

They played in a World Cup semi final. Plenty of us here were watching it as well. What’s the problem?

I don't get the word failure in this instance. The girls did great and advanced the women's game hugely.

Apart from the VAR carry-on it's been the sporting revelation of the year.

[danhibees1875]

Okay guys, how do we tap into the new interest in women’s football and boost attendance at the domestic Scottish game?

The SWPL doesn’t start again until August and Hibs Ladies first game is away to Glasgow City before a trip to Slovenia for the Champions League.

I’ve said it before on this forum, but it’s a great way to introduce young children, especially girls to football. The players all take time to speak with fans and do selfies.

Or whatever youngsters are doing these days 😄

A good question!

Woman's football was on the up before this tournament I felt, I enjoyed watching the odd Hibs game on TV etc, but I think it's been put under the spot light very well over summer. Helped greatly by Scotland being there and England progressing as far as they did, keeping attention on the game.

As for how we grow the Scottish game and Hibs ladies team...

I think a look at the way the team is ran. They should of course have a strong link with the club generally but I wonder if they have a chance to do their own thing commercially; sponsorship etc. They might be in a fairly attractive position for it as there's not the same baggage as around the mens team, they win a lot of trophies, and at the moment are the only real force in Edinburgh.

I wonder if the odd game would benefit from being played at Easter road on a Saturday at 1pm before the men's game. Free entry for ST holders, or a cheap bolt on option. They could make an afternoon out of it with plenty activities between games for the kids and maybe even some different/reasonable food options.
Not sure how well the pitch would hold up to 2 consecutive games or if it would be too long a day to keep kids, and adults alike, interested in the football.

Or they find an American billionaire to take them over. :greengrin

[Bangkok Hibby]

I don't get the word failure in this instance. The girls did great and advanced the women's game hugely.

Apart from the VAR carry-on it's been the sporting revelation of the year.

Phil Neville said anything less than victory would be failure (arrogant twat) so failure it is.

[danhibees1875]

I don't get the word failure in this instance. The girls did great and advanced the women's game hugely.

Apart from the VAR carry-on it's been the sporting revelation of the year.

:agree:

They've been a key part in moving the women's game forward and I think there will be benefits across the UK. Qualifying for the Olympics also.

I don't get the hatred towards Neville's comments as arrogance either really. I know she isn't the manager and so not as accountable but Hope Solo was pretty much the US team's ambassador as far as my viewing was concerned and she came out with the same/worse.

She asked about the knowledge US would have of England's key players and - paraphrasing a little - said "we only care about Americans, we expect to win the tournament and not bringing the trophy home would be unthinkable failure".

[Brightside]

Phil Neville said anything less than victory would be failure (arrogant twat) so failure it is.

Hes not an arrogant twat though. Building belief in a squad is huge. Something out country sadly lacks - hence why we never improve! USA keep on winning because they truly believe they are better than anyone.

[WeeRussell]

Hes not an arrogant twat though. Building belief in a squad is huge. Something out country sadly lacks - hence why we never improve! USA keep on winning because they truly believe they are better than anyone.

Nah. The USA keep winning because they truly ARE better than anyone.

[Shrekko]

Good to see that sexism has got nowhere near the WWC thread. :rolleyes:

When women have favourite male players based on their attractiveness is that sexism too? I never hear anyone complain about that.

[Here’s Lucy!]

When women have favourite male players based on their attractiveness is that sexism too? I never hear anyone complain about that.

Just because we don’t hear about it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

I realise you are playing devils advocate here but, be honest, it’s far more rife when it’s womens football, or indeed any sport or any walk of life for that matter.

[The Harp Awakes]

Phil Neville said anything less than victory would be failure (arrogant twat) so failure it is.

He said that a few days ago but completely changed his tune after they lost, praising them to the hilt, couldn't have given any more, yadda yadda.

Not worth listening to then.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Just because we don’t hear about it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

I realise you are playing devils advocate here but, be honest, it’s far more rife when it’s womens football, or indeed any sport or any walk of life for that matter.

I think we need to be clear about what we mean by sexism. Saying a female player is attractive isn't sexist; saying a woman is less capable/valuable than a man, is. Same goes the other way: there is nothing sexist in a female fan saying a male player is attractive.

[Barman Stanton]

Good to see that sexism has got nowhere near the WWC thread. :rolleyes:

Im also curious. Is it really sexist to think someone is good looking?

[WeeRussell]

I think we need to be clear about what we mean by sexism. Saying a female player is attractive isn't sexist; saying a woman is less capable/valuable than a man, is. Same goes the other way: there is nothing sexist in a female fan saying a male player is attractive.

Spot on and very simple. A lot of (faux?) outrage caused by a lack of understanding in this.

[WeeRussell]

He said that a few days ago but completely changed his tune after they lost, praising them to the hilt, couldn't have given any more, yadda yadda.

Not worth listening to then.

He was just starting to bore me with his post-match stuff when they got knocked out. Good timing.

He was very quick and strong in his condemnation of Cameroon's conduct and challenges (which were admittedly both very poor at times) but moaned that his player shouldn't have been sent-off last night because her first wasn't a booking... her challenge was arguably worse than anything in the Cameroon game and deserving of a straight red.

What did he mean by the ref not having control!? It's not like the US were rampaging around flying into tackles?

I prefer his brother's analysis.

[Newry Hibs]

I think we need to be clear about what we mean by sexism. Saying a female player is attractive isn't sexist; saying a woman is less capable/valuable than a man, is. Same goes the other way: there is nothing sexist in a female fan saying a male player is attractive.

But then if I say that a woman is less capable than a man at football - is that sexist?

(Of course there are examples of things where a woman is more capable than a man).

[Shrekko]

Just because we don’t hear about it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

I realise you are playing devils advocate here but, be honest, it’s far more rife when it’s womens football, or indeed any sport or any walk of life for that matter.
Other people have already answered this and they’re right - what is the world coming to when you can’t say someone is attractive regardless of what they do for a living.

Sexism and racism are being found these days where it doesn’t exist.

[Shrekko]

But then if I say that a woman is less capable than a man at football - is that sexist?

(Of course there are examples of things where a woman is more capable than a man).

It’s not sexist to say you don’t like women’s footie IMO and people shouldn’t be made to feel that way.

Alex Scott is also utterly awful... but nobody is allowed to say it. She’s a hopeless football pundit and it’s regardless of her sex.

[Hibernia&Alba]

But then if I say that a woman is less capable than a man at football - is that sexist?

(Of course there are examples of things where a woman is more capable than a man).

If it's a broad generalisation i.e. 'women can never be as good as men for no other reason than they are women', then yes, I think that's sexist. Saying a specific player isn't good, whilst providing evidence, is not.

[Here’s Lucy!]

I think we need to be clear about what we mean by sexism. Saying a female player is attractive isn't sexist; saying a woman is less capable/valuable than a man, is. Same goes the other way: there is nothing sexist in a female fan saying a male player is attractive.


Im also curious. Is it really sexist to think someone is good looking?

I accept both your points, H&A’s one in particular is very well put.

However, it’s when the use of words (used last night) like ‘fitty’ and ‘stoater’ are shoehorned into a thread on women’s football that it becomes, shall we say, a bit risqué.

I’ll probably get shot down for this but, it’s my opinion and one I am entitled to.

There is no ‘faux outrage’ here at all. :aok:

[WeeRussell]

I accept both your points, H&A’s one in particular is very well put.

However, it’s when the use of words (used last night) like ‘fitty’ and ‘stoater’ are shoehorned into a thread on women’s football that it becomes, shall we say, a bit risqué.

I’ll probably get shot down for this but, it’s my opinion and one I am entitled to.

There is no ‘faux outrage’ here at all. :aok:

It was me who suggested the term faux outrage, and it wasn't directed specifically at you LB. I meant generally in the world today - sure I had the words 'in the world' typed actually.

Anyway, I would still argue that the words you quote above aren't necessarily sexist, for the same reasons that your credited posters have given :agree:

[Barman Stanton]

I accept both your points, H&A’s one in particular is very well put.

However, it’s when the use of words (used last night) like ‘fitty’ and ‘stoater’ are shoehorned into a thread on women’s football that it becomes, shall we say, a bit risqué.

I’ll probably get shot down for this but, it’s my opinion and one I am entitled to.

There is no ‘faux outrage’ here at all. :aok:

Damn, when I think about some of the things I have heard our female supporters say about some players. Makes the above look tame (which in fairness 'fitty' is). But Iv never thought of it as sexist. Its perfectly normal to find the opposite sex attractive. NOTE: Not for everyone!! (before that offends someone).

[Here’s Lucy!]

It was me who suggested the term faux outrage, and it wasn't directed specifically at you LB. I meant generally in the world today - sure I had the words 'in the world' typed actually.

Anyway, I would still argue that the words you quote above aren't necessarily sexist, for the same reasons that your credited posters have given :agree:

Sorry, Russell. I knew you didn’t mean myself, my choice of words let me down there.


Damn, when I think about some of the things I have heard our female supporters say about some players. Makes the above look tame (which in fairness 'fitty' is). But Iv never thought of it as sexist. Its perfectly normal to find the opposite sex attractive. NOTE: Not for everyone!! (before that offends someone).

Perhaps I’m getting ‘sexist’ confused with ‘derogatory’! I do take your point however regarding comments made to/about male footballers by the fairer sex!

I think I’ll leave this discussion now!

[Hibernia&Alba]

Perhaps I’m getting ‘sexist’ confused with ‘derogatory’! I do take your point however regarding comments made to/about male footballers by the fairer sex!

I think I’ll leave this discussion now!

That's a fair distinction. We all find different things derogatory/insulting.

[makaveli1875]

But then if I say that a woman is less capable than a man at football - is that sexist?

(Of course there are examples of things where a woman is more capable than a man).

Scotland women would probably beat the mens team to be fair .

[SRHibs]

I accept both your points, H&A’s one in particular is very well put.

However, it’s when the use of words (used last night) like ‘fitty’ and ‘stoater’ are shoehorned into a thread on women’s football that it becomes, shall we say, a bit risqué.

I’ll probably get shot down for this but, it’s my opinion and one I am entitled to.

There is no ‘faux outrage’ here at all. :aok:

I think you have a point. The focus being on their looks gives the implication of them being "less valuable" based on the fact that their obvious talent is being overlooked.

They're playing in the semi-final of the World Cup and the focus for many seems to be on appearances. The same might happen for men's football, however it's more often an afterthought. How many of our many female posters do you see drooling over players in update threads? Conversely, I'm pretty sure the conversation always heads in this direction whenever there's a thread about the women's game.

I don't think people are being intentionally offensive though.

[Barman Stanton]

Sorry, Russell. I knew you didn’t mean myself, my choice of words let me down there.



Perhaps I’m getting ‘sexist’ confused with ‘derogatory’! I do take your point however regarding comments made to/about male footballers by the fairer sex!

I think I’ll leave this discussion now!

Fair play on that. :aok:

[Barman Stanton]

I think you have a point. The focus being on their looks gives the implication of them being "less valuable" based on the fact that their obvious talent is being overlooked.

They're playing in the semi-final of the World Cup and the focus for many seems to be on appearances. The same might happen for men's football, however it's more often an afterthought. How many of our many female posters do you see drooling over players in update threads? Conversely, I'm pretty sure the conversation always heads in this direction whenever there's a thread about the women's game.

I don't think people are being intentionally offensive though.

Thats a difficult one seeing as there are very few women on the forum in comparison to men. But certainly many women I know are never slow to compliment a players looks. Of course that may say more about the woman I'm around of course :faf:

[GreenCastle]

Good to see that sexism has got nowhere near the WWC thread. :rolleyes:

Don’t forget not all posters are men on here.

Plenty of women post too.

[mjhibby]

Hes not an arrogant twat though. Building belief in a squad is huge. Something out country sadly lacks - hence why we never improve! USA keep on winning because they truly believe they are better than anyone.

It's probably his time under fergie. There is a fine line between being too arrogant and setting goals. The USA seem very arrogant but have the cups to justify it. I'd try and win something first before going down the arrogant route. As stubbsy said before the famous day it was the belief that we were going to win that carried us through. I'm not sure the English team had that. I'm sure they will in time.

[Here’s Lucy!]

Don’t forget not all posters are men on here.

Plenty of women post too.

Indeed they do. :greengrin

[JeMeSouviens]

I think you have a point. The focus being on their looks gives the implication of them being "less valuable" based on the fact that their obvious talent is being overlooked.

They're playing in the semi-final of the World Cup and the focus for many seems to be on appearances. The same might happen for men's football, however it's more often an afterthought. How many of our many female posters do you see drooling over players in update threads? Conversely, I'm pretty sure the conversation always heads in this direction whenever there's a thread about the women's game.

I don't think people are being intentionally offensive though.

:agree: it all got a bit Jurassic Park last night. :wink:

[Hibernia&Alba]

I don't agree with the criticism of Alex Scott's punditry. I think she's good, being articulate and knowledgable. She doesn't sit on the fence and backs up her opinions. I suppose you can't please everyone.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I don't agree with the criticism of Alex Scott's punditry. I think she's good, being articulate and knowledgable. She doesn't sit on the fence and backs up her opinions. I suppose you can't please everyone.

I think she's good too.

[Shrekko]

I don't agree with the criticism of Alex Scott's punditry. I think she's good, being articulate and knowledgable. She doesn't sit on the fence and backs up her opinions. I suppose you can't please everyone.

I've never heard her an insightful comment from her any time I've watched. She's like an excitable school-kid who quickly rattles off clichés and nothing statements but often seems to get lost mid sentence. The fact she's learned a few modern coaching terms (that men would be ridiculed for using) and does a bit of video analysis that basically anyone could do doesn't make her a great pundit. Not quite sure why folk think she's so knowledgeable… she doesnt seem to know a lot about other non England female players in the World Cup.

She seems to be the poster girl of female punditry though. I wonder if the fact she's attractive and bubbly is what makes her so seemingly popular? That would be ironic eh?

[Hibernia&Alba]

I've never heard her an insightful comment from her any time I've watched. She's like an excitable school-kid who quickly rattles off clichés and nothing statements but often seems to get lost mid sentence. The fact she's learned a few modern coaching terms (that men would be ridiculed for using) and does a bit of video analysis that basically anyone could do doesn't make her a great pundit. Not quite sure why folk think she's so knowledgeable… she doesnt seem to know a lot about other non England female players in the World Cup.

She seems to be the poster girl of female punditry though. I wonder if the fact she's attractive and bubbly is what makes her so seemingly popular? That would be ironic eh?

Fair enough, perhaps you have seen more of her during the tournament, but, from what I've seen, she's been good. Last night, for example, she didn't hold back on England's defending and analysed their deficiencies well. From what I've seen of her, nothing she has said has made me think her clueless. I've seen far worse pundits: Glenn Hoddle immediately comes to mind.

[HoboHarry]

Fair enough, perhaps you have seen more of her during the tournament, but, from what I've seen, she's been good. Last night, for example, she didn't hold back on England's defending and analysed their deficiencies well. From what I've seen of her, nothing she has said has made me think her clueless. I've seen far worse pundits: Glenn Hoddle immediately comes to mind.
I'll raise you Andy Walker, genuinely confuses me as to how gets away with saying absolutely nothing of value.....

[WeeRussell]

Sorry, Russell. I knew you didn’t mean myself, my choice of words let me down there.



Perhaps I’m getting ‘sexist’ confused with ‘derogatory’! I do take your point however regarding comments made to/about male footballers by the fairer sex!

I think I’ll leave this discussion now!

Nothing to be sorry for whatsoever, LB :aok: Just letting you know I wasn't having a pop at you.

[WeeRussell]

I'll raise you Andy Walker, genuinely confuses me as to how gets away with saying absolutely nothing of value.....

Craig Burley in his setanta (?) days.

[JimBHibees]

Davie Provan and Mark Lawrenson both give the impression we are doing them a favour by having to listen to their mostly inane negative drivel.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Davie Provan and Mark Lawrenson both give the impression we are doing them a favour by having to listen to their mostly inane negative drivel.

:agree:

His patter is terrible and his tone of voice is a like a man who has just opened his winter gas bill.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Hes not an arrogant twat though. Building belief in a squad is huge. Something out country sadly lacks - hence why we never improve! USA keep on winning because they truly believe they are better than anyone.


I agree, belief in your team's abilities and trying to build confidence in your squad is to be applauded. However telling the media that losing to the number 1 team in the world would be failure was IMO arrogant.

[Shrekko]

Fair enough, perhaps you have seen more of her during the tournament, but, from what I've seen, she's been good. Last night, for example, she didn't hold back on England's defending and analysed their deficiencies well. From what I've seen of her, nothing she has said has made me think her clueless. I've seen far worse pundits: Glenn Hoddle immediately comes to mind.

There are some horrific male pundits- many been mentioned already. People should feel free to comment about any pundits abilities and not feel restricted because they're going to be accused of something. Again- if a woman said she hated Andy Walker's punditry I doubt she'd have to worry about being accused of sexism.


Criticising a hopeless female pundit in the same way you'd criticise a male one is actually showing you're judging them equally which is supposedly what we all want. Some incredibly good broadcasters and pundits out there at the moment that happen to be female... but you shouldn't even have to highlight their gender.

[One Day Soon]

I think she's good too.

:agree: Me three.

[Hibernia&Alba]

There are some horrific male pundits- many been mentioned already. People should feel free to comment about any pundits abilities and not feel restricted because they're going to be accused of something. Again- if a woman said she hated Andy Walker's punditry I doubt she'd have to worry about being accused of sexism.


Criticising a hopeless female pundit in the same way you'd criticise a male one is actually showing you're judging them equally which is supposedly what we all want. Some incredibly good broadcasters and pundits out there at the moment that happen to be female... but you shouldn't even have to highlight their gender.

Absolutely, and I'm not suggesting you don't rate her just because she's a woman. We just have different opinions; I think she's pretty good.

[Here’s Lucy!]

I'll raise you Andy Walker, genuinely confuses me as to how gets away with saying absolutely nothing of value.....

And he’s not even American! :na na:

[Brightside]

:agree: Me three.

She is technically excellent. Much better than the majority that wing it on BBC etc.

[hibsbollah]

There's only so much can be gained by a bunch of mostly aged men discussing young female athletes, young female commentators, what defines sexism and whether Alex Morgan is fit or not...
(for the record, I like Alex Scotts punditry, I don't like whatsishername Nobbs' punditry, very negative, emphasises defensive mistakes in a Lawrenson /Hansen manner)

'Rolfo' hasn't made the Sweden team for tonight's second semi final. Great name. I thought this might be a Levein reference, dodgy tummy a few hours before the biggest game in your teams history perhaps?

[Mon Dieu4]

There's only so much can be gained by a bunch of mostly aged men discussing young female athletes, young female commentators, what defines sexism and whether Alex Morgan is fit or not...

'Rolfo' hasn't made the Sweden team for tonight's second semi final. Great name. I thought this might be a Levein reference, dodgy tummy a few hours before the biggest game in your teams history perhaps?

Alex Morgan is pretty but not as hot as Darren McGregor :agree:

[The 90+2]

She is technically excellent. Much better than the majority that wing it on BBC etc.

She’s a very lovely looking girl too, which always helps matters.

[hibsbollah]

Alex Morgan is pretty but not as hot as Darren McGregor :agree:

:agree: Morgan has a pirate name but Daz actually looks like a pirate. If they dressed up in the correct outfits I think you could see something pretty special unfold.

[Mon Dieu4]

:agree: Morgan has a pirate name but Daz actually looks like a pirate. If they dressed up in the correct outfits I think you could see something pretty special unfold.

Dublin has just shattered the illusion for me, he should stick to peddling houses on day time tv

[hibsbollah]

Dublin has just shattered the illusion for me, he should stick to peddling houses on day time tv

I like Dublin but he'd be a ****** pirate.

[Phil MaGlass]

so lucky not to have to follow the BBC for the fitba:thumbsup:

[Lago]

As an aside I see a report on the BBC website that the premier League is in talks withe FA down South to take over responsibility for WSL. This with a view to bring in more sponsorship etc. Watch all our girls head down their if it comes off.

[Brightside]

As an aside I see a report on the BBC website that the premier League is in talks withe FA down South to take over responsibility for WSL. This with a view to bring in more sponsorship etc. Watch all our girls head down their if it comes off.

All our girls already head down there.

[iwasthere1972]

My money is on the Swedes if they turnip.

[hibbyfraelibby]

My money is on the Swedes if they turnip.

Just States the obvious

[Hibernia&Alba]

Who is the Swedish centre back? She's a quality player.

[One Day Soon]

I can't work out if that Swedish strip is a bit rubbish or really quite smart? :confused:

[Hibernia&Alba]

Big chance just there for Sweden.

[Phil MaGlass]

USA should win the world cup on this showing

[iwasthere1972]

Not sure if Pearce is commentating or just mumbling a load of tosh to himself. Heard him discussing the sky a few minutes ago. This game needs a goal.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Not a great half.

[One Day Soon]

Can't see the leaders of the Western world losing to either of these two.

[Glory Lurker]

Discussion at HT there of legacy of England's campaign, and more consideration of that to come at the weekend apparently. Legacy of Scotland's first world cup qualification obviously not worthy of attention.

[Hibernia&Alba]

World class save at full stretch by the Swedish keeper.

[blackpoolhibs]

We should be seeing a lot more football on the telly of this standard, if my tv licence is paying for this crap , then i expect under 14s games from saughton enclosure every saturday morning.

[cabbageandribs1875]

after watching each team play once i fancied a USA v Netherlands final, i think passing tonight has been pretty poor, still better having the dutch in the final as sweden just don't appeal to me



oops goal netherlands

[Here’s Lucy!]

USA have got this in the bag.

[Lago]

All our girls already head down there.
They won't even hang around here.

[BILLYHIBS]

Holland v Sweden

Lost count of the number of times I heard “England” being mentioned last night :confused:

:brickwall

[Hibernia&Alba]

Can't see Netherlands laying a glove on USA in the final, on the evidence of last night.

[JimBHibees]

Can't see Netherlands laying a glove on USA in the final, on the evidence of last night.

Not so sure if England can give them a game then Holland can. Dutch have goalscorers in their team and also their centre backs and goalie are good.

Both Lavelle and Heath seemed to go off injured for US in the semi so possible doubts for final.

Think Dutch might represent some value on Sunday IMO.

[Cropley10]

Funny old game - just ask FC Dallas U15 (boys)

[Callum_62]

Funny old game - just ask FC Dallas U15 (boys)Just ask Arbroath.... Or Elgin [emoji23]

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[mayo hibee]

England pretty useless again today by the sounds of things. Probably lucky with the draw to make the semis, as soon as they faced any of the better teams they were shown up pretty quickly.

Glad that the tournament is almost over, the overall standard of a lot of the teams was poor and it was tough watching at times. The officiating was terrible as well. To be fair though there were six or seven genuinely good teams in there, but they got lost a bit with so many sub-standard sides dragging the whole thing down - unfortunately I'd have to include Scotland in that.

There's talk of expanding the tournament to 32 teams but the best thing they could do is cut it to 16 until there are enough teams of a decent standard to make up the numbers.

[Here’s Lucy!]

England. :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

Neville self combusting. Before the game when I get the bronze medal I will buy a light which makes it look like a gold. Absolute self absorbed clown. I me my. :rolleyes: Body language with Carney was interesting.

Good thing was Sweden a decent bet today. Holland at seven to one is huge value imo.

[Keith_M]

It's quite strange but the amount of coverage of this event on TV has dropped drastically since England were put out.

Maybe it's just a coincidence.

[mayo hibee]

Really poor stuff from the England camp after the game too - sour grapes everywhere. Neville calling the third place game a nonsense fixture and Carney saying she was glad England lost. I'm sure they'd have been consistent with those views if they'd won the game...

It was all happy clappy when they were winning but they've shown their true colours in the last week - they've let themselves down badly.

[JimBHibees]

Really poor stuff from the England camp after the game too - sour grapes everywhere. Neville calling the third place game a nonsense fixture and Carney saying she was glad England lost. I'm sure they'd have been consistent with those views if they'd won the game...

It was all happy clappy when they were winning but they've shown their true colours in the last week - they've let themselves down badly.

Couldn't agree more.

[Hibbyradge]

It's quite strange but the amount of coverage of this event on TV has dropped drastically since England were put out.

Maybe it's just a coincidence.

Maybe. But there weren't as many games left.

[heretoday]

I found the tournament a bit disappointing in the end. Somehow I imagined the women wouldn't resort to the same snide tricks that the guys do.

Sadly, it was not the case.

And the VAR is a disaster by the way.

[BILLYHIBS]

I was on White for the fourth goal

The Bookie paid oot then clawed my dough back

A blind man running for a bus wouldnae have noticed a hand ball

Nine times out of ten that’s a goal

VAR ?

:grr:

[Jim44]

I wouldn’t put VAR down as totally useless but I’m beginning to think it stands for ‘very average refereeing’.

[hibsbollah]

Somehow I imagined the women wouldn't resort to the same snide tricks that the guys do.

Sadly, it was not the case.

.

There's no comparison in terms of cheating and gamesmanship from what I saw. The odd bit of theatrics in a couple of the big games, and of course the Cameroon England nonsense, but women's football is definitely played in a much better spirit overall.

[Just Jimmy]

It's quite strange but the amount of coverage of this event on TV has dropped drastically since England were put out.

Maybe it's just a coincidence.they lost the semi final?

after that there was the other semi which was on tv and go coverage.

they played the 3rd place game yesterday and the final is today.

what are you looking for?

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[SouthMoroccoStu]

they lost the semi final?

after that there was the other semi which was on tv and go coverage.

they played the 3rd place game yesterday and the final is today.

what are you looking for?

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I think Keith is referring to the amount of BS that was shoved down our throat

Here’s their training camp, press conference, talking head interviews, nonsense barely related articles about celebrities wishing the lionesses (laughable nickname btw) well etc

All that has dropped off the face of the earth when they finally came up against a better team and lost

To be listening to English football fans and pundits talking about the Womens World Cup matches and accuse the Americans of being cocky and arrogant.

I nearly fell off my seat. Pot and kettle or what?

And the moaning about the Alex Morgan tea drinking celebration! No worse or cringeworthy than the White Goggles Celebration or Parris You can’t see me celebrating. But when it’s for England it’s all great passion so that’s fine

After all the crap last summer of “it’s coming home” I thought we’d get a break this year. Glad it ended the same way

[Joe6-2]

I think Keith is referring to the amount of BS that was shoved down our throat

Here’s their training camp, press conference, talking head interviews, nonsense barely related articles about celebrities wishing the lionesses (laughable nickname btw) well etc

All that has dropped off the face of the earth when they finally came up against a better team and lost

To be listening to English football fans and pundits talking about the Womens World Cup matches and accuse the Americans of being cocky and arrogant.

I nearly fell off my seat. Pot and kettle or what?

And the moaning about the Alex Morgan tea drinking celebration! No worse or cringeworthy than the White Goggles Celebration or Parris You can’t see me celebrating. But when it’s for England it’s all great passion so that’s fine

After all the crap last summer of “it’s coming home” I thought we’d get a break this year. Glad it ended the same way

This is definitely what he meant!
As for Neville, what an embarrassment

[Glory Lurker]

Not as bad as the Hearts Celtic Cup Final, but not far off.

[pontius pilate]

The Dutch keeper is having a stormers keeping the Dutch in it what a performance by her

[Hibbyradge]

I'm enjoying this.

The USA should be well in front, but the Netherlands keeper is playing a blinder.

[iwasthere1972]

1-0 USA. Penalty.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i shouted at the keeper to go to her left this time, rapinho has been putting her previous penalties to the left iirc so a wee change was due

[heretoday]

VAR ruins yet another game.

No penalty. Game's gone daft with this VAR nonsense.

[cabbageandribs1875]

2-0 zilch uncle samantha game over me thinks

[Hibernia&Alba]

Lovely hit from the edge of the box. 2-0.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Well deserved too; USA have been much the better team. Only England managed to give them a game.

[David_D]

Think this could end up 4 or 5 now.

[cabbageandribs1875]

they made an erky of that chance



and now alex makes an erky of it

[Hibbyradge]

VAR ruins yet another game.

No penalty. Game's gone daft with this VAR nonsense.

It was a stonewall penalty.

The Netherlands player kicked the USA forward on the upper arm.

[stokesmessiah]

VAR ruins yet another game.

No penalty. Game's gone daft with this VAR nonsense.

What the hell are you talking about?? It was as clear cut a penalty as you can get.

[cabbageandribs1875]

and another chance missed


wee Erin would have had a hat trick here

[stokesmessiah]

Dutch gone all out attack mode ala fifa style. Going to get hammered here.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Dutch keeper has prevented a hammering. She's been outstanding.

[Future17]

VAR ruins yet another game.

No penalty. Game's gone daft with this VAR nonsense.

It was a 100% penalty for me. In any event, VAR didn't make the decision.

[Hibernia&Alba]

It was a 100% penalty for me. In any event, VAR didn't make the decision.

Yes, correct use of VAR to reach a good decision.

[Hibee Mac]

This is by no means meant as a criticism as I have really enjoyed watching this world cup.

Why is it that almost no players seem to be capable of beating a player 1 on 1, everyone seems to cut back on themselves far too often when in good positions.

Feels like an opportunity for a team/player to flourish going forward if they could add this to the wide areas.

[cabbageandribs1875]

USA refusing to score a 3rd

[Hibernia&Alba]

Why does Pearce always give Rose Lavelle her full name, when he only uses surnames for the rest?

[LaMotta]

USA refusing to score a 3rd

The decision making in the final third is so bad its unbelievable :brickwall

[Sir David Gray]

VAR ruins yet another game.

No penalty. Game's gone daft with this VAR nonsense.

I can only assume you're watching another match in the tournament right now.

The penalty in the final was a stonewaller. It's difficult to understand how you could come to any other conclusion to be honest.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Well done to the American girls, they are definitely the best team in the world. The Dutch women can be very proud of their World Cup.

[mayo hibee]

For the best team in the world they've been incredibly inept at converting 3 on 2 and 4 on 2 chances in the last 15 minutes.

Well done to them but a poor tournament overall. Hopefully by the next World Cup the overall standard will have significantly improved.

[Hibernia&Alba]

For the best team in the world they've been incredibly inept at converting 3 on 2 and 4 on 2 chances in the last 15 minutes.

Well done to them but a poor tournament overall. Hopefully by the next World Cup the overall standard will have significantly improved.

I think the standard was very good in most cases. With professionalism now established in the women's game, the standard should further improve quickly.

[AugustaHibs]

I think the standard was very good in most cases. With professionalism now established in the women's game, the standard should further improve quickly.

The standard honestly isn’t much different from the lowland league

[Hibernia&Alba]

The standard honestly isn’t much different from the lowland league

I'm not sure how to compare the two, but only the team USA beat 13-0 (was it South Korea?) looked hopeless. There was some good football on display, and some outstanding individuals.

[Keith_M]

The standard honestly isn’t much different from the lowland league


England Women's team v Gala Fairydean.

Get it sorted!

[Sir David Gray]

I'm not sure how to compare the two, but only the team USA beat 13-0 (was it South Korea?) looked hopeless. There was some good football on display, and some outstanding individuals.

Thailand.

[hibsbollah]

Rapinoe, absolute legend.

[Keith_M]

Rapinoe, absolute legend.


I wonder if they'll get an invite from The Donald after all.

:hmmm:

[hibsbollah]

I wonder if they'll get an invite from The Donald after all.

:hmmm:

I hear she's away to play a gender equality celebrity deathmatch against Gala Fairydean or Artful Mysogyny FC or someone like that instead.

[Keith_M]

I hear she's away to play a gender equality celebrity deathmatch against Gala Fairydean or Artful Mysogyny FC or someone like that instead.


Sponsored by The Guardian?

[Hibernia&Alba]

Thailand.

Yes, it was. They were terrible and well out of their depth, but they were the exception. I thought the standard overall was good.

[hibsbollah]

Sponsored by The Guardian?

In all seriousness, they won't be short of sponsors chucking money at them for many years to come.

[Eyrie]

Anyone who laughs at female goalkeepers should have to watch the highlights of the Dutch goalkeeper.

There was only one team that ever looked like scoring, and she was the reason they only managed one from open play.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Anyone who laughs at female goalkeepers should have to watch the highlights of the Dutch goalkeeper.

There was only one team that ever looked like scoring, and she was the reason they only managed one from open play.

:agree:

The Chilean goalkeeper is fantastic too, and the Swedish keeper is also very good.

[BILLYHIBS]

Rapinoe, absolute legend.
Said that from day one

Stood out like a sore thumb

Any idea why she missed the semi?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Said that from day one

Stood out like a sore thumb

Any idea why she missed the semi?


thigh strain

[cabbageandribs1875]

thoroughly enjoyed the whole tournament, well done the wimmin :agree:

[Crazyhorse]

thoroughly enjoyed the whole tournament, well done the wimmin :agree:

Me too! As did my daughter (6) who loves football and wants to play at the World Cup when she grows up!!

[Hibernia&Alba]

Me too! As did my daughter (6) who loves football and wants to play at the World Cup when she grows up!!

Superb. The women's game has taken off in a big way in recent years and is sure to keep growing.

[Just Jimmy]

Well deserved too; USA have been much the better team. Only England managed to give them a game.and spain

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[Hi Heid Yin]

The Women's World Cup has been an absolute delight, a wonderful spectacle, with some breath taking football, sublime individual skills and truly world class goals.

The USA fully deserve to be Champions. They have strength and quality in depth.

This tournament certainly opened my eyes to what the women's game has to offer, and I'm sure that it will now go from strength to strength all around the planet.

[hibsbollah]

Anyone who laughs at female goalkeepers should have to watch the highlights of the Dutch goalkeeper.

There was only one team that ever looked like scoring, and she was the reason they only managed one from open play.

... and currently without a club. Hibs need to get in there...

[One Day Soon]

This World Cup, the quality of football, the attendances and the coverage have probably struck as big a blow for women's rights and equality globally as any thing else I can remember in a very long time with the possible exception of the #metoo coverage. And its been good to watch.

[iwasthere1972]

Quite enjoyed it except for the lack of bad tackles, foul language, sectarian singing, red cards and fans invading the pitch at the final whistle.

[Deansy]

I think Keith is referring to the amount of BS that was shoved down our throat

Here’s their training camp, press conference, talking head interviews, nonsense barely related articles about celebrities wishing the lionesses (laughable nickname btw) well etc

All that has dropped off the face of the earth when they finally came up against a better team and lost

To be listening to English football fans and pundits talking about the Womens World Cup matches and accuse the Americans of being cocky and arrogant.

I nearly fell off my seat. Pot and kettle or what?

And the moaning about the Alex Morgan tea drinking celebration! No worse or cringeworthy than the White Goggles Celebration or Parris You can’t see me celebrating. But when it’s for England it’s all great passion so that’s fine

After all the crap last summer of “it’s coming home” I thought we’d get a break this year. Glad it ended the same way

In the build-up to the USA game Jonathon Pearce was 'working' himself into a frenzy over the prospect of them winning - just casually claiming that England had the best left-back in the world was the start of it all !. No sooner have we got rid of Motson and now they find his love-child - Aaaargh !!

[Just Jimmy]

In the build-up to the USA game Jonathon Pearce was 'working' himself into a frenzy over the prospect of them winning - just casually claiming that England had the best left-back in the world was the start of it all !. No sooner have we got rid of Motson and now they find his love-child - Aaaargh !!He's English. England were playing a semi final.

Lucy Bronze is a right back. she just won the champions league for the second year with Lyon and is a star in their team. she also just won the second best player at the world cup, the top ranked right back.

she is the best right back in the world. so arse or not, he was correct.

what i would say - Neville made comments after the group stage saying VAR was excellent and that the standard of refereeing was good and that there had been no bad decisions. at the time I though "what an arse". it was basically a big up you to Scotland.

since then he's cried about Cameroon, spat the dummy with USA and then his comments pre 3rd place game about his bronze medal looking gold in certain light were crass. then when they lost he pretended he didn't care. He's shown himself up as the clown he is.

the facts are that they finished 4th which is worse than last time round. they are much better than they showed, arguably in any game and it was always coming down to if they could pip the USA or not. Neville failed to get the best out a very talented squad and his tinkering and failure to utilise very good players like Georgia stanway and Leah Williamson instead preferring his misfiring favourites left England lacking.

despite his bluster he's shown himself up as a failure.

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[BILLYHIBS]

He's English. England were playing a semi final.

Lucy Bronze is a right back. she just won the champions league for the second year with Lyon and is a star in their team. she also just won the second best player at the world cup, the top ranked right back.

she is the best right back in the world. so arse or not, he was correct.

what i would say - Neville made comments after the group stage saying VAR was excellent and that the standard of refereeing was good and that there had been no bad decisions. at the time I though "what an arse". it was basically a big up you to Scotland.

since then he's cried about Cameroon, spat the dummy with USA and then his comments pre 3rd place game about his bronze medal looking gold in certain light were crass. then when they lost he pretended he didn't care. He's shown himself up as the clown he is.

the facts are that they finished 4th which is worse than last time round. they are much better than they showed, arguably in any game and it was always coming down to if they could pip the USA or not. Neville failed to get the best out a very talented squad and his tinkering and failure to utilise very good players like Georgia stanway and Leah Williamson instead preferring his misfiring favourites left England lacking.

despite his bluster he's shown himself up as a failure.

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Is he the English Potter?

Edit:

As a player 6 x EPL 3 x FA Cups 1 x CL

Maybe as a Manager?

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[Just Jimmy]

Is he the English Potter?

Edit:

As a player 6 x EPL 3 x FA Cups 1 x CL

Maybe as a Manager?

��No. they won the she believes cup in summer. a friendly tournament. that's more than potter has won ... ever

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[BILLYHIBS]

No. they won the she believes cup in summer. a friendly tournament. that's more than potter has won ... ever

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👍🏾

Damn!

😁

[One Day Soon]

They're a good side, he's a decent manager. They could be better, so could he.

Fair play to them they had a good tournament. It's just petty to try and pick holes in England's World Cup experience this summer whether as players, commentators or their crowds at home. We come across as chippy and bitter when we do that in the men's and women's football.