Rugby

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

That's better, 3-12.

[OldEast]

ridiculous the length of time for that advantage


that french kicker has had his boots on the wrong feet all game

Totally agree about the advantage. Is there no rule about the amount of time or phases of play that can be applied or is it all at the ref's discretion?

[cabbageandribs1875]

good try Italy

10-12

Scotland have had very little ball in the first 30 mins

we're not too pleasing on the eye here so far

[cabbageandribs1875]

Totally agree about the advantage. Is there no rule about the amount of time or phases of play that can be applied or is it all at the ref's discretion?

and yet Scotland were given an advantage earlier in this game for an Italian Knock-on and Advantage lasted two small passes along the back

[cabbageandribs1875]

yay Try Scotland under the posts

10-19


HT


10-26 50 mins, should be out of sight now :)

[McD]

and yet Scotland were given an advantage earlier in this game for an Italian Knock-on and Advantage lasted two small passes along the back

Knock on advantages are always shorter, usually a couple of phases or until the opposition kick. Penalties are given longer as deemed to be a worse transgression

Dont disagree that some penalty advantages are far too long though

[cabbageandribs1875]

well done Italy with that last try :agree: i know the score doesn't reflect it but i think Scotland were poor to watch today


Ireland 30+ points next week :agree:

and well done townsend giving four subs a lousy 5 mins on the park, great management, must do their confidence a world of good, not

[Glory Lurker]

Well, this has started well!!!! :-)

[Jim44]

Never a red card ….. accidental head collision.

[cabbageandribs1875]

missed the first 90 seconds of the england/ireland game and the host side already down to 14 :)

and 0-8 after 7 mins

[Mr Grieves]

Well, this has started well!!!! :-)

Fans taking it well :greengrin

[Mr Grieves]

well done Italy with that last try :agree: i know the score doesn't reflect it but i think Scotland were poor to watch today


Ireland 30+ points next week :agree:

and well done townsend giving four subs a lousy 5 mins on the park, great management, must do their confidence a world of good, not

Scotland have been poor in every match, key players not performing

[JimBHibees]

Thought Scotland weren't great struggled a bit with Russell kicking the ball away all the time. Gave away a few poor tries imo. Assume Ireland will convincingly beat Scotland.

Some start to England Ireland red card in one minute think correct decision hugely reckless head in head. Excellent Irish try

[JimBHibees]

Never a red card ….. accidental head collision.

Didn't wrap his arms very reckless challenge imo

[weecounty hibby]

100% red card. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't understand the laws of the game as they are now. That is exactly the kind of contact that world rugby are trying to stop. Concussion is a huge issue in the game

[McD]

Didn't wrap his arms very reckless challenge imo


100% red card. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't understand the laws of the game as they are now. That is exactly the kind of contact that world rugby are trying to stop. Concussion is a huge issue in the game


totally agree - tacklers are responsible for the safety and wellbeing of the opposition player, it’s reckless, and whether it’s accidental or not, he had plenty time to adjust his body position to avoid head contact

[Mr Grieves]

100% red card. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't understand the laws of the game as they are now. That is exactly the kind of contact that world rugby are trying to stop. Concussion is a huge issue in the game

:agree: Resulted in a serious head knock for the Ireland player, definitely a red.

Despite being down to 14 England are playing well here,fair play

[Sir David Gray]

I don't know an awful lot about rugby but 22 points seems quite a high number of points for Italy score in a match.

I note they actually scored 22 points against France two years ago but other than that you need to go back to 2018 for the last time they scored more than 22 points against a side that's currently ranked above them.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Ireland players getting thoroughly embarrassed here

[cabbageandribs1875]

that could have been sooooo embarrassing for Sexton :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

no surprise really Scotland U20's are bottom of the league


will that be the winning ireland try


this one certainly will be


in years to come folk will look at this scoreline and think wow ireland must have been brilliant

15-32

[cabbageandribs1875]

U20's England v Ireland live now for anyone still looking for a rugby fix BBC iPlayer - Under-20s Six Nations Rugby - 2022: England v Ireland (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0bsz5fg/under20s-six-nations-rugby-2022-england-v-ireland)

or Ulster v Leinster on premier sports 1


FT England 27 Ireland 42

Ireland will wrap up the Grand Slam next week against the 20's whipping boys without any problems

[cabbageandribs1875]

Spain beat Portugal 33-28 to qualify for France WC

Pool B

Scotland
South Africa
Ireland
Spain

[OldEast]

France grand slam.

What's your thoughts now? I'm considering taking "cash out" before the England game. I thought France looked a bit nervous and weren't great under the high ball against Wales.
I think Ireland will hammer Scotland to go top of the table putting extra pressure on France who aren't the best at dealing with high expectations. Different this time?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Both commentators obviously supporting Wales. Bring back Bill McLaren!!

Both of them are dreadful - Davies and Butler. Worst on the bbc.

[Sylar]

Spain beat Portugal 33-28 to qualify for France WC

Pool B

Scotland
South Africa
Ireland
Spain

That's a pool we're not getting out of, sadly. Not based on any of our Six Nations performances so far anyway. Even our 2 wins we've looked really sluggish, lacking any real penetration.

The lack of quality coming up the back in our U21s worries me for the coming years to be honest.

[davy67 +]

Both of them are dreadful - Davies and Butler. Worst on the bbc.
Butler makes your ears bleed , Jiffy's not much better they'd give your ******** a migraine. Looking at social media on Friday night after the Wales game there where a lot of people tell Brain Moore how big a mistake the BBC have made in dropping him from their six nations coverage

[Danderhall Hibs]

Butler makes your ears bleed , Jiffy's not much better they'd give your ******** a migraine. Looking at social media on Friday night after the Wales game there where a lot of people tell Brain Moore how big a mistake the BBC have made in dropping him from their six nations coverage

He was a good co commentator - knowledgeable and able to hide his bias. Davies is a disgrace.

[McD]

He was a good co commentator - knowledgeable and able to hide his bias. Davies is a disgrace.


when commentating on Italy vs Ireland (or any other non welsh match!), Davies would only be heard saying things like ‘tremendous play from wales there’ :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

That's a pool we're not getting out of, sadly. Not based on any of our Six Nations performances so far anyway. Even our 2 wins we've looked really sluggish, lacking any real penetration.

The lack of quality coming up the back in our U21s worries me for the coming years to be honest.

an interesting take on Finn Russell
Scotland: Key issues facing Gregor Townsend before Six Nations trip to Dublin - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/60729871)


The fulcrum of Scotland's attack is Russell - but the 29-year-old has been a shadow of the player everyone knows he is. He still swaggers about with the smile and smirk we've become accustomed to but hasn't delivered on that charmer's promise.
The calmness that personifies his game has given way to questionable decision-making. The other worry is that no longer is he just ill-disciplined with the ball in hand - kicking needlessly or trying the endless Hollywood ball that will not come off this season - he is also giving away penalties and picking up cards as a result.
The yellow in Cardiff was costly, having gotten away with his yellow at Twickenham and red in Paris last year. If Scotland are ever going to challenge for the title, they need Russell at his very best and this year he has been ineffective.

i'd still love to know why we blew not just the result against Wales this season but the same ending against the Welsh last season at Murrayfield, i just can't understand why we completely fell out of these games, surely can't be a lack of energy, the only things i can think of is either managerial tactics or the players themselves deciding to just hold on to what they had which is more or less the impression i got during and after that defeat to Wales, i couldn't understand why we just let wales dictate most of the play in the second 40, especially after playing so well in the first, maybe like football it's just one of those 'game of two halves' things i guess

[Mcbizz1998]

an interesting take on Finn Russell
Scotland: Key issues facing Gregor Townsend before Six Nations trip to Dublin - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/60729871)


The fulcrum of Scotland's attack is Russell - but the 29-year-old has been a shadow of the player everyone knows he is. He still swaggers about with the smile and smirk we've become accustomed to but hasn't delivered on that charmer's promise.
The calmness that personifies his game has given way to questionable decision-making. The other worry is that no longer is he just ill-disciplined with the ball in hand - kicking needlessly or trying the endless Hollywood ball that will not come off this season - he is also giving away penalties and picking up cards as a result.
The yellow in Cardiff was costly, having gotten away with his yellow at Twickenham and red in Paris last year. If Scotland are ever going to challenge for the title, they need Russell at his very best and this year he has been ineffective.

i'd still love to know why we blew not just the result against Wales this season but the same ending against the Welsh last season at Murrayfield, i just can't understand why we completely fell out of these games, surely can't be a lack of energy, the only things i can think of is either managerial tactics or the players themselves deciding to just hold on to what they had which is more or less the impression i got during and after that defeat to Wales, i couldn't understand why we just let wales dictate most of the play in the second 40, especially after playing so well in the first, maybe like football it's just one of those 'game of two halves' things i guess

I think Finn struggles with 2 bosh merchants outside him. Johnson, Tuipolotu, Harris etc are all blunt instruments. He has always played his best stuff with Jones, Bennett, Scott etc. he has also looked really good with Redpath. At Racing he has excellent centres who are on his wave length. Harris can’t even execute a simple overlap as we saw v France.

I see he has now been dropped for Kinghorn which is just a mental decision. Townsend seems to have completely lost his way. Gone after the World Cup you would imagine, but Scotland are now regressing at an alarming rate.

[He's here!]

I think Finn struggles with 2 bosh merchants outside him. Johnson, Tuipolotu, Harris etc are all blunt instruments. He has always played his best stuff with Jones, Bennett, Scott etc. he has also looked really good with Redpath. At Racing he has excellent centres who are on his wave length. Harris can’t even execute a simple overlap as we saw v France.

I see he has now been dropped for Kinghorn which is just a mental decision. Townsend seems to have completely lost his way. Gone after the World Cup you would imagine, but Scotland are now regressing at an alarming rate.

Russell among those disciplined for a breach of protocol this week:

Six Nations: Stuart Hogg, Finn Russell & Ali Price among six Scotland players disciplined - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/60796440)

[cabbageandribs1875]

i'm amazed the welsh player didn't know he had to tap the ball first at a tap and go :rolleyes:

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

14-0 Ireland, the rest of this isn't going to be pretty. 😣

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

14-5

[Mr Grieves]

Italy were brilliant earlier, a well deserved win.

Scotland started well then back to normal giving away too many penalties, we're still in it though. TMO was pretty eager to have our try overturned :hmmm:

[cabbageandribs1875]

for goodness sake Hogg, simple pass inside and that was a try



ten penalties Scotland have conceded, so far

[J-C]

Shoeman lucky not to be off there, leads with the arm and Hogg was a greedy get by not passing inside, poor stuff. We must have the worst discipline record in world rugby, time for Townsend to go.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Dear France, sorry we couldn't help you out a wee bitty


but anyway


well done Italy, 7 long years wait for a six nations win, 36 game losing streak is finally over

Scotland the only side to lose to Wales this series thus allowing them to avoid the wooden spoon, but we do finish 4th, amazingly we coulda finished 3rd

[Just_Jimmy]

Shoeman lucky not to be off there, leads with the arm and Hogg was a greedy get by not passing inside, poor stuff. We must have the worst discipline record in world rugby, time for Townsend to go.I said that months ago. We're talented and yet we make so my technical errors and the discipline issues are ridiculous. It's coaching pure and simple.

Russell is a maverick but he's our key guy and we need to find a coach who can keep him at the top of his game for Scotland.

I'm done with Townsend

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[LunasBoots]

Not kept up with the six nations is it France and Ireland with the chance of winning the tournament?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Not kept up with the six nations is it France and Ireland with the chance of winning the tournament?


Ireland at the top at the moment 3 points ahead of France, France need to win


don't know why but i just fancy England to win here

[LunasBoots]

Ireland at the top at the moment 3 points ahead of France, France need to win


don't know why but i just fancy England to win here

Cheers dude, first time I've not kept up with it.

[LunasBoots]

8-0 France

[LunasBoots]

England are pretty poor, France well in the lead 18-6

[Jones28]

France about to win the Grand Slam.

[Glory Lurker]

Yes, i've been doing other things so just noticing now, but should England be wearing blue socks?

[davy67 +]

Another disappointing six nations campaign from Scotland

[mayo hibee]

I think Scotland have hit a wall at this stage, not sure where they go from here. There's only so many times you can say "onwards and upwards" and continue to believe that there actually is a higher ceiling that is achievable for this bunch.

I think they're just the fourth best team in the 6 Nations.

[J-C]

I think Scotland have hit a wall at this stage, not sure where they go from here. There's only so many times you can say "onwards and upwards" and continue to believe that there actually is a higher ceiling that is achievable for this bunch.

I think they're just the fourth best team in the 6 Nations.


Time for Townsend to go, fresh ideas are needed.

[cabbageandribs1875]

U20's Ireland v Scotland just kicking off, Ireland will win this and complete the grand slam, and wooden spoon for us

Under-20 Six Nations LIVE: Watch Ireland v Scotland plus score - Live - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/rugby-union/59764290)

Italy won in Wales earlier 27-20


done quite well to last a full 5 minutes 7-0 Ireland


FT 59-5 quite sad a watch

[mayo hibee]

Another tough night for the Scotland Under 20s - just completely overpowered really, nothing they could do, that's just their level unfortunately.

That's 10 straight losses at that grade now, lost all five in the Six Nations last year and lost all five again this year. Conceded 25+ points in each of the 10 games.

So not much coming through it seems.

[cabbageandribs1875]

good article by Tom English Six Nations 2022: Scotland going backwards & to say otherwise is delusional - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/60820568)


doesn't say much about Townsend either that he hoped the story wouldn't break...as if the players wouldn't be spotted in Rose Street :rolleyes: let himself and Scottish Rugby down Hogg :agree: not to mention the others, finn russell AGAIN along with Price, Tuipulotu, Darcy Graham and Sam Johnson.

Hogg should consider announcing he's standing down, rather than have somebody else do it for him. Either way, it's hard to imagine him captaining this team. Can he stand in front of the rest of the squad and talk about standards when he, himself, has fallen so short?

Hogg and others like to talk about the good culture in the squad. Unquestionably, there are loads of terrific pros in that group - those are the ones you feel sorry for. They've been badly let down by the six - and by the management who took little or no action against them.
Perhaps Hogg will be rested for the summer tour and somebody else will be appointed to the role and that will be the succession done without a fanfare.

[JimBHibees]

good article by Tom English Six Nations 2022: Scotland going backwards & to say otherwise is delusional - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/60820568)


doesn't say much about Townsend either that he hoped the story wouldn't break...as if the players wouldn't be spotted in Rose Street :rolleyes: let himself and Scottish Rugby down Hogg :agree: not to mention the others, finn russell AGAIN along with Price, Tuipulotu, Darcy Graham and Sam Johnson.

Hogg should consider announcing he's standing down, rather than have somebody else do it for him. Either way, it's hard to imagine him captaining this team. Can he stand in front of the rest of the squad and talk about standards when he, himself, has fallen so short?

Hogg and others like to talk about the good culture in the squad. Unquestionably, there are loads of terrific pros in that group - those are the ones you feel sorry for. They've been badly let down by the six - and by the management who took little or no action against them.
Perhaps Hogg will be rested for the summer tour and somebody else will be appointed to the role and that will be the succession done without a fanfare.

On the face of it a few beers after a win a week before the next game sounds like a very good idea in terms of relaxation for a few hours. Should have been run past the coaches or maybe it was and the players reneged and went anyway. Is the e any link to the pre match press conference English was referring to?

[Since90+2]

Personally I don't really see the issue with them going out, if they got absolutely hammered that's another story but is it really that bad to fly home after a victory in Rome and have a few beers with teammates? Seems like a storm in a teacup to me.

[Mcbizz1998]

Personally I don't really see the issue with them going out, if they got absolutely hammered that's another story but is it really that bad to fly home after a victory in Rome and have a few beers with teammates? Seems like a storm in a teacup to me.

Agreed and sounds like Townsend is a dictator.

I bumped into the French boys outside Brewhemia in Edinburgh after they hammered Scotland. I even got a photo with the centre, Danty, who was outside having a smoke. It didn’t seem to do the French any harm!

That’s the rugby culture in France though, and given Finn plays there, it’s not surprising he see’s no issue with going out for a few beers after a win.

[CropleyWasGod]

Personally I don't really see the issue with them going out, if they got absolutely hammered that's another story but is it really that bad to fly home after a victory in Rome and have a few beers with teammates? Seems like a storm in a teacup to me.

It was, according to the Exeter coach.

Stuart Hogg fell foul of Scotland 'ambiguity', says Exeter Chiefs' Rob Baxter - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/60863536

[Danderhall Hibs]

Agreed and sounds like Townsend is a dictator.

I bumped into the French boys outside Brewhemia in Edinburgh after they hammered Scotland. I even got a photo with the centre, Danty, who was outside having a smoke. It didn’t seem to do the French any harm!

That’s the rugby culture in France though, and given Finn plays there, it’s not surprising he see’s no issue with going out for a few beers after a win.

The players will have agreed the rules prior to the tournament and blatantly went against them. Sounds like they weren't happy with the "treatment" of or the celebration for Ali Price's 50th cap.

[weecounty hibby]

Tom Smith has died this evening at just 50 years old. Absolutely one of the greatest props to ever play for Scotland and the Lions. RIP

[JimBHibees]

Tom Smith has died this evening at just 50 years old. Absolutely one of the greatest props to ever play for Scotland and the Lions. RIP

How sad is that. Brilliant player and was huge in the legendary Lions tour in South Africa with Telfer and McGeechan. Saw an interview not that long ago and he seemed like a very humble guy with a great sense of humour. RIP Tom.

[McD]

Tom Smith has died this evening at just 50 years old. Absolutely one of the greatest props to ever play for Scotland and the Lions. RIP


heartbreaking news

[cabbageandribs1875]

European Challenge Cup last 16

Lyon v Worcester Warriors
Toulon v Benetton
Edinburgh v Bath
Gloucester v Northampton Saints
Saracens v Cardiff
Biarritz Olympique v Wasps
London Irish v Castres
Newcastle Falcons v Glasgow Warriors

[cabbageandribs1875]

HT Newcastle Falcons 3 Glasgow Warriors 19

FT 17- 27

Glasgow away to Lyon in the QF


FT Edinburgh 41 Bath 19, great result, home to Wasps in the QF

[Sylar]

HT Newcastle Falcons 3 Glasgow Warriors 19

FT 17- 27

Glasgow away to Lyon in the QF


FT Edinburgh 41 Bath 19, great result, home to Wasps in the QF

Really good second half from us tonight. The referee was utterly awful though - not even a TMO saved him from some terrible decisions. Do French refs get taught offside, or do Bath have some kind of immunity?

That's still with us missing Ritchie, Darcy, Owsley, Nel...some really great depth in this current Edinburgh team.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Really good second half from us tonight. The referee was utterly awful though - not even a TMO saved him from some terrible decisions. Do French refs get taught offside, or do Bath have some kind of immunity?

That's still with us missing Ritchie, Darcy, Owsley, Nel...some really great depth in this current Edinburgh team.


Try Edinburgh against bottom side Zebre after 45 seconds, converted 7-0


FT in S Africa Stormers 32 Glasgow 7

[cabbageandribs1875]

Six Nations fixtures 2023 (all times GMT)

Saturday 4 February
Wales v Ireland (14:15)
England v Scotland (16:45)
Sunday 5 February
Italy v France (15:00)


Saturday 11 February
Ireland v France (14:15)
Scotland v Wales (16:45)
Sunday 12 February
England v Italy (15:00)


Saturday 25 February
Italy v Ireland (14:15)
Wales v England (16:45)
Sunday 26 February
France v Scotland (15:00)


Saturday 11 March
Italy v Wales (14:15)
England v France (16:45)
Sunday 12 March
Scotland v Ireland (15:00)


Saturday 18 March
Scotland v Italy (12:30)
France v Wales (14:45)
Ireland v England (17:00)

[IberianHibernian]

I don`t really follow rugby but have just read about Spain`s expulsion from next year`s world cup .4 years ago they missed out on qualification for 2019 WC for some off field reason too . At that time it seemed very unfair , this time it seems to be down to incompetence of administrators . Anyway , apparently Rumania will take Spain`s place and Portugal are now in play playoffs
. Spanish problem concerned documents of a South African who had lived in Spain for a while before playing for Spain because of residence and questions about how long he`d lived in Spain without interruption . Reading Spanish sports paper Marca , another Spanish international from outside Spain ( France ) criticised the Spanish federation for incompetence but interestingly that drew many replies along the lines of ( Why criticise Spain as it`s the country that`s given you the chance to play international rugby? ). One other comment mentioned that Scotland had started a recent 6 Nations match with only 2 players who had been born in Scotland .

[cabbageandribs1875]

very tasty indeed, can't get much tougher imo....well, unless we replaced Fiji with S A, huge physical games

Autumn Nations Series 2022

Scotland v Australia (Saturday, 29 October, 17:30 GMT)

Scotland v Fiji (Saturday, 5 November, 13:00)

Scotland v New Zealand (Sunday, 13 November, 14:15)

Scotland v Argentina (Saturday, 19 November, 15:15)

[Sylar]

A tough first defeat at the DAM last night against an admittedly very good Ulster side.

Almost grabbed the win at the death, but wasn't to be. Great to see the place sold out - was an incredible atmosphere at times.

How Ben Whitehouse earns a wage as a referee will forever be a mystery to me though - some of his decisions last nighth were absolutely awful.

Still, into the playoffs of the URC!

[cabbageandribs1875]

Ireland will play three games in November against..

South Africa
Fiji
Australia


they also have a 3-game series in New Zealand this summer

[Sylar]

Edinburgh vs Glasgow tonight at BT Murrayfield in the final URC game of the season (and round 2 of the 1872 Cup).

Looking forward to it - both teams have named strong lineups, so it should be a cracker.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Edinburgh 17-10 down v Stormers just into the 2nd half.

[cabbageandribs1875]

total hammering for Glasgow earlier today by Leinster 76-14 FT


Edinburgh presently only getting beat in Cape Town 17-10 by Stormers after 46 mins, quite surprising really :greengrin

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Edinburgh 17-10 down v Stormers just into the 2nd half.

20-10, the game might be beyond them unfortunately.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

25-10 Stormers

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

25-17

[cabbageandribs1875]

Try Edinburgh



nice seeing Senalta for the stormers the dude was great for SA 7's

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

28-17

[DaveF]

1st state of origin on Wednesday morning for the RL peeps

[heretoday]

Phil Bennett died aged 73. Great Welsh fly half. I remember him waltzing through Scots defence at Murrayfield to score. Rugby was brilliant in those days.

[nellio]

Phil Bennett died aged 73. Great Welsh fly half. I remember him waltzing through Scots defence at Murrayfield to score. Rugby was brilliant in those days.

Incredible player. That welsh team was amazing. Bit before my time but growing up in Wales you sure hear about it.

[JimBHibees]

Phil Bennett died aged 73. Great Welsh fly half. I remember him waltzing through Scots defence at Murrayfield to score. Rugby was brilliant in those days.

His play in that momentous try for Barbarians against All Blacks in Cardiff is sensational. Fantastic player. RIP

[cabbageandribs1875]

FT England 21 Barbarians 52, Barbarians played whole of the 2nd half with just 14 after will skelton became the first ever Barbarian to get a red card, a pretty harsh red card at that



always fun watching any eddie jones side getting a doin :greengrin

[Sylar]

FT England 21 Barbarians 52, Barbarians played whole of the 2nd half with just 14 after will skelton became the first ever Barbarian to get a red card, a pretty harsh red card at that



always fun watching any eddie jones side getting a doin :greengrin

His face when the final whistle went was priceless.

The back heel conversion was ridiculous :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

His face when the final whistle went was priceless.

The back heel conversion was ridiculous :greengrin


and he was going to do it a 2nd time right at the end but i think the referee had a wee wordie in his ear :(




anyway


Chile v Scotland A just starting on Premier Sports


HT 0-28


FT 5-45

[Sylar]

I don't plan on moving very much on Saturday:

Japan vs France
New Zealand vs Ireland
Australia vs England
South Africa vs Wales
Argentina vs Scotland

I might well be utterly ******ed on the couch by the time Scotland kick off :greengrin

[Jones28]

I don't plan on moving very much on Saturday:

Japan vs France
New Zealand vs Ireland
Australia vs England
South Africa vs Wales
Argentina vs Scotland

I might well be utterly ******ed on the couch by the time Scotland kick off :greengrin

How are you watching them?

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

How are you watching them?

Looking at the telly? 🤔

[Jones28]

Looking at the telly? 🤔

There’s always one 😂

[Sylar]

There’s always one 😂

https://www.wheresthematch.com/live-rugby-union-on-tv/

They're all on Sky Sports Action with the exception of Japan vs France, which is on Premier Sports.

[McD]

How are you watching them?



Once answered a similar question in a training room exercise by saying ‘with my eyes’, which completely flummoxed the person asking 😂

[cabbageandribs1875]

Hamish Watson picked up an injury at training and will miss the 1st test

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I don't plan on moving very much on Saturday:

Japan vs France
New Zealand vs Ireland
Australia vs England
South Africa vs Wales
Argentina vs Scotland

I might well be utterly ******ed on the couch by the time Scotland kick off :greengrin

Here we go! 🍺🍿🍺🍜😃🍺

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Contrasting national anthems there. 😀

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Great start from Ireland, All Blacks getting well on top now. 21-5 just before HT.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

28-5.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

28-12

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

35-12, what a player that Savea is.

[hibsbollah]

Some bonkers decisions throughout this game clearly always going the all blacks way. I thought they must have changed the rules on knock ons, but Ireland getting penalised so they can't have.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

42-12

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Missed the last few minutes of the Ireland game, in the boozer now so, should be plain sailing for a while! 🖒🍺🖒

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Oz 0 England 6

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

3-6

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Red card for Oz for a head butt, sheer stupidity, game over.

[cabbageandribs1875]

ref got that absolutely spot on there, yellow for the england player and a red for the stupid idiot, he will cost his side the game, eejit

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

6-6 ht

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

9-6, man advantage now for England.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

9-11

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

9-14

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

16-14

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Yellow card for England, interesting! 🤔

[cabbageandribs1875]

oooee try australia


21-14 70 mins, conversion to come

23-14

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

23-14

[cabbageandribs1875]

oh wow try aussies

converted 30-14 go the 14


30-19
30-21

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

30-14, cracking performance from the Aussies here.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

30-19

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

30-21, great entertainment. 👏

[cabbageandribs1875]

aussies down to 13 for the last seconds


looks better if it's reported that the 13 beat the 15


another england try 30-26 kick to come

the 13 slipped up :greengrin

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

30-26

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

30-28 ft, great watch!

[cabbageandribs1875]

no rugby for 3 hours :(

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Red card for Oz for a head butt, sheer stupidity, game over.

How wrong can you be? 😃

[cabbageandribs1875]

SA decision making has been pretty poor in this game imo, 11-3 down and instead of going for touch with the penalty the dude took a certainly not easy kick at goals which he missed then near the posts he kicks it over to the wing where it was just a one-on-one and by no means his player would get it, which he didn't...anyway


wales leading 18-3

alwyn jones yellow card on 67 mins

wales down to 13 73 mins
Try SA 74 mins 29-24
wales down to 12 75 mins
wales try 29-29 have SA blown it...kick to come
oooohh slipped it wide
and yet again another terrible kick out of touch from a south african
deliberate knock-on by biggar pen SA on 81 mins


FT 32-29 pi$$er for the welsh

they go again next Sat

[Jones28]

This is boring

[cabbageandribs1875]

we're like wee lost boys here truly awful so far, we do love giving away penalties don't we

35 mins and not been anywhere near the Argentinian try line

still, thankfully only 18-6 at the moment


my goodness, turner can't even throw a quick line-out ball straight

[cabbageandribs1875]

18-18, see what happens when townsend threatens to send them all home early from their holidays :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

only a scottish rugby side could leak a try straight from the restart

[Mcbizz1998]

The commentator referring to Argentina as “Los Pumas” every 2 mins is really annoying me [emoji23]

[cabbageandribs1875]

first time i've ever turned over from a scottish rugby game before the end

[JimBHibees]

Ref is at it imo brutal. Every decision

[Sylar]

Insipid, error-strewn and out of ideas too quickly.

I seen most of the games yesterday and I couldn't help but note we were the only home nation to not take their 'big' players with us - Hogg, Russell and Watson are major misses when they don't play.

I feel like a broken record, but it's time to move on from Townsend. Not because we lost a test yesterday, but because I consistently fail to see any improvement under his management. We're not progressing at all.

I fear for us in the Autumn Internationals if that same team turn up against the Wallabies, All Blacks and 'Los Pumas' (:greengrin) again.

[NYHibby]

Does anyone know when the schedule for the Commonwealth Games rugby 7s comes out? I have tickets for the 7s for Friday 29th. All I’ve been able to find is that games will be between 5:30PM and 10PM.

I need to buy train tickets to go back to London. I’d rather not plan on staying in Coventry until 10PM if Scotland’s last game that night is significantly earlier.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Scotland u20's hammered 55-17 by Georgia in the under-20 six nations summer series in Italy, 13th consecutive loss, 12-0 up at one stage then of course the usual collapse



what a state our game is in :bitchy: watching our 7's sides regularly it's really not that much of a surprise, we just can't seem to progress at this game

[JimBHibees]

Scotland u20's hammered 55-17 by Georgia in the under-20 six nations summer series in Italy, 13th consecutive loss, 12-0 up at one stage then of course the usual collapse



what a state our game is in :bitchy: watching our 7's sides regularly it's really not that much of a surprise, we just can't seem to progress at this game

That's a terrible result

[weecounty hibby]

Scotland u20's hammered 55-17 by Georgia in the under-20 six nations summer series in Italy, 13th consecutive loss, 12-0 up at one stage then of course the usual collapse



what a state our game is in :bitchy: watching our 7's sides regularly it's really not that much of a surprise, we just can't seem to progress at this game
Scottish Rugby is a shambles below the National team, and to an extent the two pro sides. I could write hundreds if words on what a dysfunctional organisation it is especially if you are one if the smaller clubs. It is the demise of club rugby that is leading to the situation where our u23s etc are so poor. The national team we can prop up with foreigners but no one is going to come to Scotland to play u23.
My club hasn't had a 2nd XV out regularly for at least 10 years. We used to run 3 XVs and an U18s. There are bigger clubs who used to run six or seven teams at the weekend who now only have two.

[Golden Bear]

Scottish Rugby is a shambles below the National team, and to an extent the two pro sides. I could write hundreds if words on what a dysfunctional organisation it is especially if you are one if the smaller clubs. It is the demise of club rugby that is leading to the situation where our u23s etc are so poor. The national team we can prop up with foreigners but no one is going to come to Scotland to play u23.
My club hasn't had a 2nd XV out regularly for at least 10 years. We used to run 3 XVs and an U18s. There are bigger clubs who used to run six or seven teams at the weekend who now only have two.

:agree:

Its astounding that the Head of Scottish Rugby is paid almost £1million, how that can be justified beats me.

[weecounty hibby]

:agree:

Its astounding that the Head of Scottish Rugby is paid almost £1million, how that can be justified beats me.
Yeah but he is seen as a success cos we are doing OK at mens international level and we had huge investment from BT. I have been involved with my local club for 40 years now as a player, club captain, coach, committe member etc and the SRU are a disgrace. We have never been so poorly supported and the league structures are stupid to put it mildly. We are unfortunately in Midlands league now having been in national league for a while too. The Midlands league us regional but we could, and have, had to play Orkney and Caithness in the same season before. Orkney is a full weekend and £000 of pounds for the club. Caithness is at best all day Saturday and most if Sunday gone. For a regional amateur game that is awful. I could go on for hours about how inept the SRU are when it comes to the championship committees. Only interested in the bigger clubs with no regard to smaller ones. We will always be a feeder club but we get no help anymore to continue to feed players towards the big clubs. Aw, man I shouldn't have started that rant, my blood pressure is going up and it'll never change. Still too many posh boys running rugby who can't see past private schools and the big city clubs I'm afraid.

[Golden Bear]

Yeah but he is seen as a success cos we are doing OK at mens international level and we had huge investment from BT. I have been involved with my local club for 40 years now as a player, club captain, coach, committe member etc and the SRU are a disgrace. We have never been so poorly supported and the league structures are stupid to put it mildly. We are unfortunately in Midlands league now having been in national league for a while too. The Midlands league us regional but we could, and have, had to play Orkney and Caithness in the same season before. Orkney is a full weekend and £000 of pounds for the club. Caithness is at best all day Saturday and most if Sunday gone. For a regional amateur game that is awful. I could go on for hours about how inept the SRU are when it comes to the championship committees. Only interested in the bigger clubs with no regard to smaller ones. We will always be a feeder club but we get no help anymore to continue to feed players towards the big clubs. Aw, man I shouldn't have started that rant, my blood pressure is going up and it'll never change. Still too many posh boys running rugby who can't see past private schools and the big city clubs I'm afraid.

I feel your pain ! Just yesterday I was speaking to a friend who attended a dinner where Ian Paxton where was one of the principle speakers. Let's just say that Packy was none too complimentary about Scottish Rugby's hierarchy! What I didn't realise was the fact that Ireland has twice as many registered rugby players as Scotland and attracting kids to the game seems to be an increasing problem since covid appeared on the scene.

[weecounty hibby]

I feel your pain ! Just yesterday I was speaking to a friend who attended a dinner where Ian Paxton where was one of the principle speakers. Let's just say that Packy was none too complimentary about Scottish Rugby's hierarchy! What I didn't realise was the fact that Ireland has twice as many registered rugby players as Scotland and attracting kids to the game seems to be an increasing problem since covid appeared on the scene.

Ireland is a huge success. We have friends who are members of Ennis rugby club, when they lived in Scotland they were members of our club. Ennis is no bigger than my club here and no more successful. They are a junior club in the Munster catchment area. They are teaming with kids of all ages and do really well at age grade, they also have a pathway through to bigger clubs, Munster academy and then Ireland. In Scotland your pathway is made much easier for you if you attend one of the private schools. I sent one of the kids I coached, a really good player from a real rugby family, to Caledonia selection. Got the report back and it read like it was a different kid they had been assessing. When the Caley squad was announced it was full of Dollar Academy, Morrisons Academy, Aberdeen Grammer, Stirling County etc. We then played a game against another Midlands club and i was reffing. Our kid told me that two of the opposition back row had been at Caley camp with him so I watched how they got on against each other. They were certainly not any better than our boy but they did have the advantage of being at one if the bigger clubs in the district and also went to a private school. It also appeared that the Caey coaches/selectors are already aware of these kids as they mostly work with private schools and the bigger clubs. We could definitely learn from what and how Ireland have done as it just feels like we are fishing in a small pond and making it even smaller by overlooking a lot of potential players. My pals in Ireland having seen both countries don't think there is the same old school tie issue in Ireland as in Scotland
I promise that will be my last rant on the subject!!

[Golden Bear]

Ireland is a huge success. We have friends who are members of Ennis rugby club, when they lived in Scotland they were members of our club. Ennis is no bigger than my club here and no more successful. They are a junior club in the Munster catchment area. They are teaming with kids of all ages and do really well at age grade, they also have a pathway through to bigger clubs, Munster academy and then Ireland. In Scotland your pathway is made much easier for you if you attend one of the private schools. I sent one of the kids I coached, a really good player from a real rugby family, to Caledonia selection. Got the report back and it read like it was a different kid they had been assessing. When the Caley squad was announced it was full of Dollar Academy, Morrisons Academy, Aberdeen Grammer, Stirling County etc. We then played a game against another Midlands club and i was reffing. Our kid told me that two of the opposition back row had been at Caley camp with him so I watched how they got on against each other. They were certainly not any better than our boy but they did have the advantage of being at one if the bigger clubs in the district and also went to a private school. It also appeared that the Caey coaches/selectors are already aware of these kids as they mostly work with private schools and the bigger clubs. We could definitely learn from what and how Ireland have done as it just feels like we are fishing in a small pond and making it even smaller by overlooking a lot of potential players. My pals in Ireland having seen both countries don't think there is the same old school tie issue in Ireland as in Scotland
I promise that will be my last rant on the subject!!

I'm from the Borders where traditionally Rugby Union is taught in the Schools and is definitely looked upon as being the working man's sport. Times are changing though and I'd say that football is now gaining the upper hand which in time, can only have a detrimental effect on the numbers participating in rugby union.

[weecounty hibby]

I'm from the Borders where traditionally Rugby Union is taught in the Schools and is definitely looked upon as being the working man's sport. Times are changing though and I'd say that football is now gaining the upper hand which in time, can only have a detrimental effect on the numbers participating in rugby union.
Yeah, the borders probably bucks the trend fir the rest of Scotland. As you say though even the borders teams are starting to struggle a bit which is very sad to see. There should have been a 3rd pro team based in the borders

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Ireland 10 up v All Blacks, NZ man sent off and currently down to 13 men. Discipline sadly lacking from The All Blacks so far.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

10-7 ht.

[weecounty hibby]

Tough red card that. By the letter of the law it's a red but the move happened so fast I'm not sure he could have done much different. It us why the law was changed I suppose so he had to go

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

17-7

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

23-12 ft.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Flying start for England now too. 0-7.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Scottish Rugby is a shambles below the National team, and to an extent the two pro sides. I could write hundreds if words on what a dysfunctional organisation it is especially if you are one if the smaller clubs. It is the demise of club rugby that is leading to the situation where our u23s etc are so poor. The national team we can prop up with foreigners but no one is going to come to Scotland to play u23.
My club hasn't had a 2nd XV out regularly for at least 10 years. We used to run 3 XVs and an U18s. There are bigger clubs who used to run six or seven teams at the weekend who now only have two.


thanks for that insight into the game at grass roots, quite concerning the national side has to rely on so many players making their way from other countries and not so many from grass roots here.

[cabbageandribs1875]

England will beat the Aussies, wish i had been a little braver and included Ireland to beat the all blacks in my bet on the rugby today :)

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

16-0 England

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

19-0.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

19-7

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

22-14

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

England yellow card.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

22-17

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

25-17 ft.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Bit of a war of attrition so far, SA 3 Wales 3.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

9-3 SA, yellow card Wales.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

12-3

[cabbageandribs1875]

not a game for rugby purists, riddled with errors

as much possession that SA have had they're not great to watch

Wales could steal this, but not with kicks like that :rolleyes:

[cabbageandribs1875]

oh well mucked my bet up but well done wales if they win this, SA are horrible to watch going forward


lovely conversion

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

12-11 SA, conversion pending for Wales.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

12-13

[cabbageandribs1875]

so, scores on the doors for the Southern v Northern Hemisphere games today

Japan 15 France 20
New Zealand 12 Ireland 23
Australia 17 England 25
South Africa 12 Wales 13

to wrap it up

Argentina v Scotland

[cabbageandribs1875]

feel for townsend watching his side go ahead and then immediately watch Gilchrist roll his arm around the argentinians neck to gift the most idiotic of penalties, freakin schoolboy error

[cabbageandribs1875]

how in the actual **** does kinghorn miss that conversion wind or not :rolleyes: 8-6 scotland and good decision not to take the easy 3 points in front of goals


HT not pretty

[weecounty hibby]

Kinghorn isn't a 10. Townsend likes him as he can play 11, 14, 15 and 10 at a push. I can't see why we are trying to make him our No1 stand off. Still don't like Townsend as a coach

[cabbageandribs1875]

no holding us back now 13-6, con to come:greengrin

15-6

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

15-6

[cabbageandribs1875]

sooooooo typical Scotland 11-15


but i think that will get chalked off for an earlier forward pass


it does


6-15 again :)




home side sin bin


Try Scotland con to come 20-6

22-6

[Mcbizz1998]

The Kinghorn experiment (at this level) has failed. I never want to hear a bad word about Russell again.

[cabbageandribs1875]

nice try 29-6 that should be enough

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Some turnaround from the first half performance.

[weecounty hibby]

Much better 2nd half so far. More accuracy from Scotland but we have got a a bit lucky a couple of times

[cabbageandribs1875]

some great defence there

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

some great defence there

They've been excellent defending the line this half 👏

[cabbageandribs1875]

They've been excellent defending the line this half 👏


think they went about 15 mins there camped in our own 22 and didn't concede



same performance in next weeks decider hopefully

[cabbageandribs1875]

so, deciders in all four tests next weekend

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

so, deciders in all four tests next weekend

Should be a cracking days entertainment.

[weecounty hibby]

Next week, Scotland and England to win. Ireland and Wales to lose

[Lancs Harp]

Next week, Scotland and England to win. Ireland and Wales to lose

I think Ireland might just beat the All Blacks. Thats most intreaging game for me. I think SA will bring their big guns back and beat Wales, Scotland to beat Argentina. England v Australia you could flick a coin!

Great day today though for the Northern hemisphere

[Mcbizz1998]

I think Ireland might just beat the All Blacks. Thats most intreaging game for me. I think SA will bring their big guns back and beat Wales, Scotland to beat Argentina. England v Australia you could flick a coin!

Great day today though for the Northern hemisphere

Don’t see it. Ireland benefited from a red card today and probably won’t get that next week. The AB’s tend to win when the chips are down, especially at home.

Definitely the most intriguing game though as you say, will be interesting.

[McD]

Don’t see it. Ireland benefited from a red card today and probably won’t get that next week. The AB’s tend to win when the chips are down, especially at home.

Definitely the most intriguing game though as you say, will be interesting.


thought Ireland definitely got the rub yesterday

the first all black yellow was extremely harsh in my eyes, the guy is already in the air trying to block the kick, where is he supposed to go or get out the way? It’s a penalty for sure, a yellow seems ott

similar with the red, horrible clash of heads, I think the all black is caught out by the change of direction with the inside pass, and neither player can react to move their heads out the way. I get the argument that the tackler has the greater responsibility to get lower or avoid the head contact, but that to me is more about guys hitting opponents in the head with their shoulders or arms.


also, separate to that, whoever the Irish co-commentator is, is ridiculously biased, demanding penalties and cards constantly, never giving credit to the opposition, just whining constantly

[cabbageandribs1875]

Namibia beat Kenya 36-0 to qualify for WC23

they join pool A along with

France
New Zealand
Italy
Uruguay

[Sylar]

The Kinghorn experiment (at this level) has failed. I never want to hear a bad word about Russell again.

The expectations being placed on Blair are insane. He's been exceptional for Edinburgh at 10 this year and has shown that in flashes for Scotland. I'd agree, he's not the best player we have at that position - Russell, Hastings and probably (eventually) Thompson all look more comfortable there, but Blair definitely has a future with the national side. I'd perhaps agree that future shouldn't be at 10, but he's a good player!

[JimBHibees]

some great defence there

Thought Scotland were excellent second half. Huge difference with Darge and Hamish back in.

[davy67 +]

Great victory for Ireland over the New Zealand Maori . Pretty decent game

[Mcbizz1998]

The expectations being placed on Blair are insane. He's been exceptional for Edinburgh at 10 this year and has shown that in flashes for Scotland. I'd agree, he's not the best player we have at that position - Russell, Hastings and probably (eventually) Thompson all look more comfortable there, but Blair definitely has a future with the national side. I'd perhaps agree that future shouldn't be at 10, but he's a good player!

Yeah I agree he has been good for Edinburgh (I’m a season ticket holder) but he isn’t a 10 at this level.

He was supposed to be the natural successor to Hogg at FB, it’s quite unfair how he is being punted around different positions. It will hold him back.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Here we go, what a great days sport we have ahead of us.

NZ v Ireland to kick us off.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

22-3 Ireland approaching HT.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

22-17, Ireland on a yellow card.

[Sylar]

NZ coming right back into this. Ireland temporarily down to 14.

17-22

[Sylar]

Bah, 22-32 Ireland.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Ireland will win the WC next year :agree:

[Sylar]

Ireland will win the WC next year :agree:

The thought of that is horrible. That knock-on is game over here though.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Good start to the day, plenty more to come.

[cabbageandribs1875]

The thought of that is horrible. That knock-on is game over here though.



i hope SA don't win it, they just seem to be all about power



what odds for a full sweep of Northern Hemisphere wins today

i think both England and Scotland will win

[weecounty hibby]

That is a great result for Ireland. They have grown and grown as a rugby nation over the last 20/25 years and we have stood still. Fully expect us to be Argentina but no way would we have won a series in NZ.

[Sylar]

i hope SA don't win it, they just seem to be all about power



what odds for a full sweep of Northern Hemisphere wins today

i think both England and Scotland will win

Agreed on SA. Glad they aren’t part of our Autumn Nations fixtures. They’re brutal to watch.

I have a feeling we’ll win today but fancy South Africa to beat Wales. Not sure about this one. Hoping for the Wallabies obviously!

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

7-3 Aussies
10-3

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

10-11 ht

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

10-14

[cabbageandribs1875]

aussies are pretty poor


england should win this


10-21

another poor Oz knock-on


Try Oz 15-21 con to come

17-21

aussies have had a lot of the ball the last 10+ mins, they need that try though


wow and yet again another error

FT 17-21 time to change channel in case eddie jones is on

[cabbageandribs1875]

quite an amazing stat that, after two games and 20 mins wales have been in the SA 22 only six times and have came away with five tries



10-5 con missed


FT 30-14 SA


Georgia beat Portugal 23-14, now just need Scotland and USA v Chile today for my four fold

USA lead by just one point from the 1st leg, Winner goes to the WC

[Pagan Hibernia]

The thought of that is horrible. That knock-on is game over here though.

nah, the thought of it is wonderful :agree:

[cabbageandribs1875]

brilliant try van der merwe


3-7

[DaveF]

I'm sure I heard the commentator say that an Argentina prop was 24st. Surely not.

[cabbageandribs1875]

I'm sure I heard the commentator say that an Argentina prop was 24st. Surely not.


they do have a tighthead prop @ 144kilos= 22+ half stone, but i can't find his name

[cabbageandribs1875]

Try Argentina 10-7

[DaveF]

Scotland have someone called Rufus playing. How very Rugby 😄

[cabbageandribs1875]

brave decision not taking the 3 points


turns out the right call


10-12 con to come

10-14

[cabbageandribs1875]

very poor from rufus McLean jeezo totally isolated himself

pen Argentina 13-14


these line-outs are shocking, that's our 3rd own line-out loss


MMmmm taking a penalty from near the half-way line now because we can't trust our own line-out

hits the crossbar


great start to the 2nd half, Try 13-19 difficult con to come, lovely kick 13-21

what an erky Scotland made with that Argentinian restart

long career ahead for Darge if he keeps up performances

much much better Try 13-26 van der merwe, converted 13- 28

Scotland concede a penalty once again from the restart

Argentina try 18-28 get those restarts sorted 20-28

[Sylar]

Blair has played brilliantly today: he was unlucky with the penalty off the bar. Darge has been exceptional at the breakdown today.

[cabbageandribs1875]

jesus wept yet another line-out loss wtf is going on

[cabbageandribs1875]

and AGAIN


pen Scotland 20-31

and of course we muck up the restart

incredible how we have mucked up so often after the restart, Try Argentina 25-31

lovely conversion 27-31

[weecounty hibby]

So many basic ****ing errors in every single game we play.

[cabbageandribs1875]

can't blame townsend for this

we're gonna blow this aren't we

[cabbageandribs1875]

freakin absolutely incredible another loss at our line-out, in 40+ years of watching top tier rugby i've never ever saw a Scottish performance like this


thank god for Argentina knocking on again, then of course we gift it away again

is their insider betting going on here

[cabbageandribs1875]

Argentina win, 15 points down at one time


shameful error-strewn performance absolutely shocking

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

So many mistakes and silly penalties whilst in possession in that 2nd half it was ridiculous, surely had to take the 3 pts when we were 4 ahead. 🙁

[cabbageandribs1875]

So many mistakes and silly penalties whilst in possession in that 2nd half it was ridiculous, surely had to take the 3 pts when we were 4 ahead. 🙁


especially after losing, i think at that stage, EIGHT of our own line-outs


i had to laugh when 3 or four times they won a scrum and cheered like they had won the WC, even they should have eventually realised the resulting kick for touch would be lost anyway...like it was time and time again

[Sylar]

Townsend can leave tomorrow - you don't take your captain off when your backs are against the wall with 5 minutes to go. You don't leave the same knackered prop on for 80 minutes. It's the same every time we play: penalty after penalty after penalty, and a total lack of ability to convert set pieces (our line-out was as bad as I've ever seen it tonight).

We're not progressing under Townsend - quite the opposite - we've regressed to a sorry, sorry side.

Thank goodness I get to see another season of Boff in an Edinburgh shirt though - he won't be there long if he keeps playing the way he has this past year.

[cabbageandribs1875]

whoever our line-out coach is needs ****** sacked

[cabbageandribs1875]

A dejected Hamish Watson has been giving his reaction to Sky Sports:

"It's a very different feeling to last week", he said. "We were architects of our own downfall.

"We let them back into the game - when we were receiving, we couldn't get out of out half.

"Our set-piece wasn't good enough today - it's tough when your lineout doesn't work. We need to stick together, and build on this for the autumn."

[Sylar]

"We need to stick together, and build on this for the [insert next series/competition here]."


It's like a stock phrase for Scotland players.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

A dejected Hamish Watson has been giving his reaction to Sky Sports:

"It's a very different feeling to last week", he said. "We were architects of our own downfall.

"We let them back into the game - when we were receiving, we couldn't get out of out half.

"Our set-piece wasn't good enough today - it's tough when your lineout doesn't work. We need to stick together, and build on this for the autumn."





All perfectly reasonable points.

[weecounty hibby]

Townsend can gtf for me. Huge mistake in letting Cotter go. Do we ever practice restarts? ****ing years we have been a joke at restarts. Scottish Rugby needs a complete overhaul. I have spoken about it at length before but we are a disgrace at grass roots to under the pro teams. A ****ing shambles but we paper over the cracks as the national side has been ok. We'll sadly we are not ok any more. We need to learn from Ireland. Schools and club rugby is the foundation if their success. Schools rugby in Scotland is for private schools only in the main. There is hardly any rugby played at our main stream Schools and that has to change. Invest that BT sponsorship money into grass roots clubs and schools and get more kids playing. Depressing

[davy67 +]

So many mistakes and silly penalties whilst in possession in that 2nd half it was ridiculous, surely had to take the 3 pts when we were 4 ahead. 🙁
Exactly what I was thinking, very poor game management

[Torto7]

Can we stick at least five past fatso please?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Scotland 7's finished 6th in both men and women's events

[cabbageandribs1875]

EX head coach of Italy gets the Glasgow Gig Franco Smith appointed Glasgow Warriors head coach on two-year deal - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/62392366)

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Rugby Championship starts today, should be good.

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Some atmosphere pre kick-off in the SA v NZ game.

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7-0 South Africa

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10-0

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10-3

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13-3

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16-3

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well deserved SA Red, boy could have broke his neck the way he landed

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well deserved SA Red, boy could have broke his neck the way he landed

It was certainly a baddie.

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26-10 ft

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another New Zealand handling error boom try SA




Argentina v Australia tonight, i see michael hooper has returned home for personal reasons

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another New Zealand handling error boom try SA




Argentina v Australia tonight, i see michael hooper has returned home for personal reasons

Seems he's struggling with his mental health - absolutely fair play for being brave enough to speak up and take steps to look after himself.

Fancy the Pumas tonight - looking forward to seeing Boffelli again - will be amazed if he's still with Edinburgh after this season - he's had a sensational couple of years.

If this All Blacks team turns up at Murrayfield in a few months, we'll never have a better chance of finally getting a win against them!

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Seems he's struggling with his mental health - absolutely fair play for being brave enough to speak up and take steps to look after himself.

Fancy the Pumas tonight - looking forward to seeing Boffelli again - will be amazed if he's still with Edinburgh after this season - he's had a sensational couple of years.

If this All Blacks team turns up at Murrayfield in a few months, we'll never have a better chance of finally getting a win against them!


i'm still going for the aussies

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i'm still going for the aussies

#MeToo

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The commentators on this are absolutely awful!

7-0 Argentina - solid try - lovely inside pass in the build-up!

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eek missed the first 8 mins :greengrin

7-3


from the restart the australian player gets the ball taken from him like taking sweets from a wean

pen 10-3

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Boff doesn't miss those :greengrin

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wow if the aussies carry on giving away the cheapest of penalties then the home side will have a great chance


13-3

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Far too easy for the Wallabies - 13-8