Rugby

[cabbageandribs1875]

be interesting to see how the Ranking will look after this WC finishes

Men's Rankings | World Rugby (https://www.world.rugby/tournaments/rankings/mru)

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[J-C]

Eddie Jones left England in a mess and carried on by making Australia a mess.

[Greenbeard]

Eddie Jones left England in a mess and carried on by making Australia a mess.
Australia should appoint that bloke Matt Williams from Virgin Media Sport. He seems to know a lot. Has he ever coached at International level?

[cabbageandribs1875]

we do at least have something to play for in the remaining two games, top three sides in each group automatically qualify for 2027 WC in Australia

[Sylar]

Hope we rest a few key players for the Romania game (Russell, Duhan, Darcy, Darge, Dempsey, Kinghorn) so they’re fit and injury free v Ireland.

Could never cheer on an Eddie Jones side, so I was happy to see Wales go through (even though it meant Gatland winning). I do suspect Jones will be emptied: another failed experiment!

[cabbageandribs1875]

shame for Stuart Mcinally now officially retired after picking up a neck injury, didn't get that one last WC game

[Scottie]

shame for Stuart Mcinally now officially retired after picking up a neck injury, didn't get that one last WC game
:agree: Been a great servant and by all accounts one of the loveliest men you’d ever meet. Hope he enjoys a long & healthy retirement.

[Greenbeard]

:agree: Been a great servant and by all accounts one of the loveliest men you’d ever meet. Hope he enjoys a long & healthy retirement.
Off to be a commercial airline pilot. Hope he lands his planes as well as he landed this score at "rugby HQ".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt-WLUftOvQ

[Mcbizz1998]

Reasonable team for the weekend, managed to keep a balance of fringe players along with some main stays.

Team: Smith, Graham, Harris, Redpath, Steyn, Healy, Price, Bhatti, Ashman, Sebastian, Skinner, Gilchrist, Crosbie, Watson, M Fagerson.
Replacements: Matthews, Sutherland, Nel, Cummings, Darge, Horne, Kinghorn, Jones.

I am heading to Lille tomorrow morning for the game, nice to travel to a Scotland away game absolutely certain we will win - doesn't happen often!

[CropleyWasGod]

Watching the Samoa Japan game, and I'm getting reminded why rugby players have never been known as style icons.

Is it just coincidence that the 2 worst hairstyles are sitting in the bin?

My money is on the other Samoan kicker joining them.

[heretoday]

Blimey the Italians have just about given up already.

[JimBHibees]

Same ref as the Wales Fiji game how on earth is he still getting games after that shambles

[weecounty hibby]

ABs mean business tonight. Looking so good all over the park

[cabbageandribs1875]

New Zealand at -39 was never in doubt :)

this is quite humiliating for the Italians, feel for them

[weecounty hibby]

That is some score against a Teir 1 nation. Relentless, physical, technically amazing, disciplined. Italy looked poor but that's because the ABs never let them into the game

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

That is some score against a Teir 1 nation. Relentless, physical, technically amazing, disciplined. Italy looked poor but that's because the ABs never let them into the game

It was a joy to watch.

[Jones28]

Georgia 9 up against Fiji. Fiji have looked a shadow of the team that started the tournament so well. So many errors.

[Scorrie]

Scotland doing ok here but only against 13 men and still making mistakes but 42 - 0 up at half time not to be sniffed at

[cabbageandribs1875]

not too shabby from our 2nd string :greengrin HT 42-0



just remembered i stuck £10 on Romania at -59, oh well :)

[Scorrie]

not too shabby from our 2nd string :greengrin HT 42-0



just remembered i stuck £10 on Romania at -59, oh well :)

Oh dear there goes your bet unless Romania rally!

[weecounty hibby]

Job done. Just need to be Ireland next Saturday!! Fancied us to donit for a few eeks now. Dunno why, but I've had a feeling we would beat them for ages now

[cabbageandribs1875]

why the heck did darcy graham take that quick throw, gave it away so cheaply


that could have cost us :)

[cabbageandribs1875]

Oh dear there goes your bet unless Romania rally!


it's ok i'm over it :wink:

[JimBHibees]

Job done. Just need to be Ireland next Saturday!! Fancied us to donit for a few eeks now. Dunno why, but I've had a feeling we would beat them for ages now

Need to beat Ireland and score four tries and win by more than seven. Not sure we can manage that. Think there will be a score we need to beat them by that we don't need four tries. Assume something like 15 or 16 not sure. Big ask. Thought some of Scotlands play was excellent and Darcy is a bit of a star.

[mayo hibee]

Winning by more than 7 will be enough for Scotland. Four tries not needed. However other than one World Cup warm up game 12 years ago that didn't feature first choice teams Scotland haven't beaten Ireland by more than 7 for over 20 years.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Scotland doing ok here but only against 13 men and still making mistakes but 42 - 0 up at half time not to be sniffed at

We still made too many errors that we won't get away with against a team like Ireland, can't see us beating them.

[CropleyWasGod]

Need to beat Ireland and score four tries and win by more than seven. Not sure we can manage that. Think there will be a score we need to beat them by that we don't need four tries. Assume something like 15 or 16 not sure. Big ask. Thought some of Scotlands play was excellent and Darcy is a bit of a star.

8-0 will be enough :agree:

Any win by more than 7 is enough, as per Mayo's post.

[He's here!]

Find it impossible to imagine we'll beat Ireland. They are a magnificent side and that win over South Africa was astounding.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Got to feel a bit sorry for Portugal here, started really well, got a yellow card that may well be upgraded to a red, game over.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Got to feel a bit sorry for Portugal here, started really well, got a yellow card that may well be upgraded to a red, game over.

Yellow card remains, commentators quite surprised.

[JimBHibees]

Winning by more than 7 will be enough for Scotland. Four tries not needed. However other than one World Cup warm up game 12 years ago that didn't feature first choice teams Scotland haven't beaten Ireland by more than 7 for over 20 years.

Surely that would mean both teams on 14 points with Ireland a better points difference. Does head to head matter if same points?

[CropleyWasGod]

Surely that would mean both teams on 14 points with Ireland a better points difference. Does head to head matter if same points?

Head-to-head is the first consideration if both are on the same points.

[JimBHibees]

Head-to-head is the first consideration if both are on the same points.

Excellent cheers

[Greenbeard]

Head-to-head is the first consideration if both are on the same points.
As long as SA get the bonus point win v Tonga. If not, and we beat Ireland without a bonus point and deny them a losing bonus point, then all three teams will be on 14 points with 1W and 1L against the other two tied teams, so then points difference will determine the two qualifiers.
Same would apply if SA get the bonus v Tonga, we beat Ireland with a 4 try bonus and they get a losing bonus ie all three teams on 15 points.

[CropleyWasGod]

As long as SA get the bonus point win v Tonga. If not, and we beat Ireland without a bonus point and deny them a losing bonus point, then all three teams will be on 14 points with 1W and 1L against the other two tied teams, so then points difference will determine the two qualifiers.
Same would apply if SA get the bonus v Tonga, we beat Ireland with a 4 try bonus and they get a losing bonus ie all three teams on 15 points.

Simplified, we need to beat them by more than 7, and make sure they score fewer than 4 tries. :greengrin

[Speedy]

Simplified, we need to beat them by more than 7, and make sure they score fewer than 4 tries. :greengrin

Aye. And if they do score 4 tries, then Scotland need to score 4 tries and win by 13?

[CropleyWasGod]

Aye. And if they do score 4 tries, then Scotland need to score 4 tries and win by 13?

Think so :greengrin

[Greenbeard]

Scotland win 6/1 with Betway. Definitely worth a wee wager.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-66982218

Oops! 🤭

[JimBHibees]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-66982218

Oops! ��

That is brilliant lol the boy will be getting it tight given the rivalry down there :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

Ali Price in for Ben White on Saturday

[Sylar]

Ali Price in for Ben White on Saturday

A big mistake IMO. Hope he proves me wrong but we need someone to keep a quick pace on Saturday - not one of Price's strong points.

[cabbageandribs1875]

A big mistake IMO. Hope he proves me wrong but we need someone to keep a quick pace on Saturday - not one of Price's strong points.

totally agree, i've thought for years now that he really does slow things right down, whether he's asked to do that i have no idea

[Greenbeard]

All Ireland need to do is win, no matter how. Ugly will do them just fine. I think they will keep it tight, play a territory game with the boot and kick their points. I thought Toony would counter that with Harris and Steyn, try and keep us in it, then unleash Graham and Jones in the 2nd half but he's been very positive with his selection. Ireland's winning run has got to end some time. Don't see why it can't be us that does it. You can't be confident but we're not as big an underdog as the bookies and most pundits think.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Battle of the Anthems coming up

[heretoday]

The Italy coach is like the dying replicant in Blade Runner.

[Sylar]

I fully expect us to lose tonight: but dear Lord im already nervous.

[JimBHibees]

Samoa England game very watchable

[easty]

Samoa England game very watchable

Farrell taking too long on an easy pen and missing the shot clock. Incredibly poor. Funny.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Samoa have been out of steam for the last 20 mins i'm amazed they are still holding on but england will go on to win this

[greenlex]

Samoa England game very watchable
I’m not into rugby but there’s nowt else on so watching. The Knick on that prevented the Samoan try. He did t knock it on did he? Yes there’s no doubt he touched it but it was the England players ( either of them ) that knocked it in wasnt it? Also at the end of the half the clock had ticked over the 40 as the ball was in the air but not over the line yet they played on. Curious game.

[JimBHibees]

I’m not into rugby but there’s nowt else on so watching. The Knick on that prevented the Samoan try. He did t knock it on did he? Yes there’s no doubt he touched it but it was the England players ( either of them ) that knocked it in wasnt it? Also at the end of the half the clock had ticked over the 40 as the ball was in the air but not over the line yet they played on. Curious game.

seemed very odd to bring it back after the kick had been taken. Didn’t think it was obvious also. Think they play on until a stop in play after clock goes 40

[cabbageandribs1875]

Samoan penalty in front of the sticks would be nice :)


what a chance they blew there

[JimBHibees]

Farrell taking too long on an easy pen and missing the shot clock. Incredibly poor. Funny.

😂

[JimBHibees]

Samoan penalty in front of the sticks would be nice :)


what a chance they blew there

Yep thought they were scoring shame

[Scorrie]

Completely unreasonable I know but Farrell has one of those faces you wouldn’t tire of slapping. Just something about him

[Golden Bear]

Ali Price in for Ben White on Saturday

George Horne would have been a better pick at scrum half. Toonie seems to prefer bringing him on as an impact sub but we really could do with his pace from the start tonight.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Ireland at -12, my prediction :(


or, if not a hammering it will be glorious failure

[Golden Bear]

Ireland at -12, my prediction :(


or, if not a hammering it will be glorious failure

I've really no idea but the Irish seem to be a tad overconfident so hopefully it will be a case of pride before the almighty fall.

[greenlex]

seemed very odd to bring it back after the kick had been taken. Didn’t think it was obvious also. Think they play on until a stop in play after clock goes 40
I know they play on but the ball was kicked to touch. It didn’t go out till after the 40 mins had ticked over thus I reckon that should have been that. Stupid egg shaped game anyway.

[Donegal Hibby]

Ireland will get a hard game tonight from Scotland though do fancy us to win maybe by 12 points .

[Just_Jimmy]

Ireland try.... 1 minute in.



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[cabbageandribs1875]

one minute it took


60 freakin seconds

[Jones28]

Ireland will get a hard game tonight from Scotland though do fancy us to win maybe by 12 points .

As few as that? 😂

[Jones28]

That was a really tidy passage of play from Scotland. Great passing and Finn doing his thing.

[J-C]

Need to get a grip of the lineouts, they've been poor so far, such a waste of possession in good territory.

[Hiber-nation]

Hopefully we'll get an easier group in 4 years time. Getting gubbed here.

[Just_Jimmy]

Done.

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[HUTCHYHIBBY]

What a mess 😔

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

All Ireland need to do is win, no matter how. Ugly will do them just fine. I think they will keep it tight, play a territory game with the boot and kick their points. I thought Toony would counter that with Harris and Steyn, try and keep us in it, then unleash Graham and Jones in the 2nd half but he's been very positive with his selection. Ireland's winning run has got to end some time. Don't see why it can't be us that does it. You can't be confident but we're not as big an underdog as the bookies and most pundits think.

It's beyond me why thought this.

[LunasBoots]

Ireland just miles ahead on strength and depth, while it's a decent Scotland team we are just no match.

[J-C]

Men v boys tonight, Scotland losing possession all too easily on their lineouts and the inability to score when having lots of possession in Ireland's 22, Ireland seem able to score whenever they open up and attack. I've switched off and watching a film now.

[He's here!]

Ireland just miles ahead on strength and depth, while it's a decent Scotland team we are just no match.

Yep, we're regarded as a strong team but they're on a different planet.

When I started watching international rugby the Ireland game was always one you were quite confident of Scotland winning. What's at the heart of their rise to best in the world?

[mayo hibee]

I've really no idea but the Irish seem to be a tad overconfident so hopefully it will be a case of pride before the almighty fall.

It's not the Irish that have the overconfidence issue, a few of the Scottish players would want to have a good look at themselves in terms of some of their smack talk during the week compared to their efforts tonight. Embarrassing stuff.

[weecounty hibby]

Yep, we're regarded as a strong team but they're on a different planet.

When I started watching international rugby the Ireland game was always one you were quite confident of Scotland winning. What's at the heart of their rise to best in the world?
Money. Invested an incredible amount if cash in supporting rugby. I think I read that they spend more than England do on rugby per head of population. That and the folk who promote the game in Ireland can see past the public schools and usual clubs to invest that money in. Club rugby in Scotland is ****ed.

[Scorrie]

Yep, we're regarded as a strong team but they're on a different planet.

When I started watching international rugby the Ireland game was always one you were quite confident of Scotland winning. What's at the heart of their rise to best in the world?

They adapted better to rugby going pro. Strong provinces, conveyor belt of development (mainly from private schools) and decent coaching at all age grades. They made the decision around 6 years ago to accelerate all this and here’s the result.

[mayo hibee]

The Scottish players just humiliating themselves now. Absolutely pathetic. Get home.

[heretoday]

Mass brawl. Get a swipe at Sexton somebody ffs!

[Hiber-nation]

Lost the plot. Poor stuff.

[weecounty hibby]

Sexton is a ******

[Jones28]

Mass brawl. Get a swipe at Sexton somebody ffs!

Slap and tickle more like. Smith is a fanny for doing that.

[Jones28]

And there’s another Ireland try.

[mayo hibee]

Sexton is a ******

Sexton hasn't lost to a Scottish team playing for club or country for 12 years. You can see why.

[weecounty hibby]

Sexton hasn't lost to a Scottish team playing for club or country for 12 years. You can see why.
Doesn't make him any less of a ****** tho

[mayo hibee]

Darcy Graham off. Most overrated player in Scottish rugby, can't see an overlap, can't take a high ball, just runs fast. Useless at this level.

[Jones28]

Darcy Graham off. Most overrated player in Scottish rugby, can't see an overlap, can't take a high ball, just runs fast. Useless at this level.

Loaday ***** this is.

[mayo hibee]

Loaday ***** this is.

He was useless against South Africa and he was useless again tonight. Probably fine in a URC game against the Dragons or whoever.

[Jones28]

He was useless against South Africa and he was useless again tonight. Probably fine in a URC game against the Dragons or whoever.

So useless against the best team in the world and against the current WC holders?

Righty ho.

[Donegal Hibby]

Job done ! Easier than I thought it would be though suppose that's what happens when you have players of Sexton's quality in your team :wink:

[Sergio sledge]

Darcy Graham off. Most overrated player in Scottish rugby, can't see an overlap, can't take a high ball, just runs fast. Useless at this level.

2nd all time Scottish try scorer... "just runs fast" what a post... 😂

He was poor tonight, I'll give you that, but so was most other aspects of the team.

[heretoday]

Scotland were always up against it with the group they were in. Face it we're not in the top bracket.

[Just_Jimmy]

Scotland were always up against it with the group they were in. Face it we're not in the top bracket.Our ranking is exactly where we are and what we are. Better than most teams, can complete with any team on our day but ultimately not as good as the top 4 teams in the world.

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[JimBHibees]

Ireland All Blacks will be a colossal game. Scotland nowhere near these elite teams either physically but particularly defensively. Looked way too easy to score against though fair to say TMO seem to have a snooze when Scotland playing first try is a clear block. The decision when the Irish full back was clearly in touch was bizarre though the difference in class was for all to see

[McD]

2nd all time Scottish try scorer... "just runs fast" what a post... 😂

He was poor tonight, I'll give you that, but so was most other aspects of the team.



He was, though hard for him or Duhan to do anything when they never saw the ball, given that Tuipualotu never once passed it, choosing to run into the nearest Irish player instead.


Ireland won deservedly, but Scotland didn’t play anywhere near potential for me, and the refereeing left some to be desired as well

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Argentina v Japan was a great game this afternoon, Argentina go on to face Wales in the last 8.

[cabbageandribs1875]

New Zealand v Ireland

South Africa v France

kin ridiculous two of those sides will be out after a WC QF :bitchy:


meanwhile Bill Beaumont's England get a draw through to the SF before they actually face a very hard task,Wales much of the same, imo

[heretoday]

The draw has been the negative aspect of the tournament.
Someone explain please why it was set in stone so long ago.

[cabbageandribs1875]

The draw has been the negative aspect of the tournament.
Someone explain please why it was set in stone so long ago.


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/disgraceful-rugby-world-cup-draw-27653123

[heretoday]

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/disgraceful-rugby-world-cup-draw-27653123

Well the only answer from that article seems to be in the comments section, viz that the system has been like this for 30 years so why moan now?

[heretoday]

Teams seem to be making questionable selections for the weekend. I am willing to bet de Klerk and Pollard come on sooner rather than later for the Boks.

[cabbageandribs1875]

six hours of both codes in Ruggerby tomorrow


4 PM Wales v Argentina
6 PM Super League Grand Final Wigan v Catalans
8 PM Ireland v New Zealand

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

six hours of both codes in Ruggerby tomorrow


4 PM Wales v Argentina
6 PM Super League Grand Final Wigan v Catalans
8 PM Ireland v New Zealand

I just hope we can get really good matches in The RWC without them being spoiled by a spate of yellow/red cards, I'm not holding my breath though.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

10-6 Wales HT

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I just hope we can get really good matches in The RWC without them being spoiled by a spate of yellow/red cards, I'm not holding my breath though.

After saying that, Adams lucky to avoid a yellow there. 😄

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

10-12

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

17-12

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

17-19

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

17-29 ft

[weecounty hibby]

Vamos Argentina 🇦🇷

[Scottie]

See ya Wales :bye:

Ireland next hopefully :greengrin

[Bishop Hibee]

On that performance, Scotland would have beaten either of those dudes. Error strewn.

[Bishop Hibee]

NZ v Ireland should be a cracker. Can’t call it.

[cabbageandribs1875]

do the irish fans think singing during that Haka will put the NZ players off







time will tell :greengrin

[Since90+2]

Absolute top drawer game of rugby this. For all the genuine complaints Scotland had about decisions we'd never get near either of these.

[Jones28]

Got a feeling this will be a smash and grab kind of game for New Zealand.

[Since90+2]

Brilliant try.

[Jones28]

Correction - could just be a smash for New Zealand 😂

[Trinity Hibee]

You don’t need to know much about rugby to appreciate how well NZ move the ball. Incredible pace and accuracy you just don’t see from virtually every other team. Superb

[ekhibee]

After some 'fans' seemed to think it was fine to shout and chant during the minutes silence for those who died in the middle east conflict, I honestly don't give a **** about this game, put me right off and I turned over.

[Since90+2]

After some 'fans' seemed to think it was fine to shout and chant during the minutes silence for those who died in the middle east conflict, I honestly don't give a **** about this game, put me right off and I turned over.

I wouldn't let the actions of a few idiots out you off

It's the players we're watching not those who were doing any shouting.

[Since90+2]

That didn't look like a deliberate knock on to me.

[cabbageandribs1875]

new zealand will get another yellow card if they keep giving away those silly penalties



deservedly punished ireland try

[cabbageandribs1875]

That didn't look like a deliberate knock on to me.


he certainly didn't have any intentions of catching it, deliberate knock-on

[cabbageandribs1875]

Ireland 17 New Zealand 18

HT

[ekhibee]

I wouldn't let the actions of a few idiots out you off

It's the players we're watching not those who were doing any shouting.

You're quite right of course, but in this case it wasn't just 1 or 2 idiots, it sounded like a whole lot more than that.

[Golden Bear]

he certainly didn't have any intentions of catching it, deliberate knock-on

Nah, it was harsh. Instinct took over its as simple as that.

[Since90+2]

Nah, it was harsh. Instinct took over its as simple as that.

That's what I think. It was an instinctive action rather than a calculated attempt to knock it on.

[CropleyWasGod]

You're quite right of course, but in this case it wasn't just 1 or 2 idiots, it sounded like a whole lot more than that.

We've seen this many times before. A few shout out.... then others try to shut them up.... etc etc....

Remember, too, it's France, where Arab-Jewish issues are much more sensitive than they are here. I was surprised there weren't more shouting. Marseilles earlier had quite a lot, too, again not surprisingly. I reckon they cut it short there.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Ireland well on top now


didn't see that coming Ireland 17 New Zealand 23 Con to come, lovely kick 17-25

[heretoday]

Ireland looks tired.

[cabbageandribs1875]

24-25 Ireland should go on to win this now

New Zealand down to 14 again

[Jones28]

New Zealand hook the pen. Ireland got a massive chance now.

[cabbageandribs1875]

eek what a spill



clock running down now, i'm a tad baffled how New Zealand are still ahead though they've spent most of the half defending they've done it well

[cabbageandribs1875]

cruel or what

incredible defending by NZ


one of those sides out in a QF is a total pizzer


France v SA tomorrow night should be a cracker, fancy SA to win

[Pagan Hibernia]

That's a painful one to take for ireland.

New Zealand were superb

[Golden Bear]

All Blacks were the deserved winners, no doubt about it - at least in my eyes.

[Since90+2]

All Blacks were the deserved winners, no doubt about it - at least in my eyes.

Agreed. Two yellow cards and never got much from Barnes and still won it by 4 points.

[McD]

Agreed. Two yellow cards and never got much from Barnes and still won it by 4 points.

Yep, that’s how I saw it too

[Callum_62]

Never write off the All Blacks

Terrific watch and really could've went either way without complaints

Im proud owner of a kiwi passport though so delighted

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[Jones28]

NZ deserved winners. Showed their quality and discipline.

[Donegal Hibby]

Very disappointing night though all credit to the all blacks on a very good performance.

[cabbageandribs1875]

NZ v Argentina SF1

[Pagan Hibernia]

NZ v Argentina SF1

Just shows. I read so many predictions this week from rugby experts claiming it would be a whitewash for the northern hemisphere over the south this weekend.

Two games, two wins for the south

[JimBHibees]

What a fantastic match that was. Either team could have won

[cabbageandribs1875]

Just shows. I read so many predictions this week from rugby experts claiming it would be a whitewash for the northern hemisphere over the south this weekend.

Two games, two wins for the south


Argentina winning certainly surprised me :greengrin

[Sylar]

Watched that in the bar of a hotel im staying at in the borders with an Irish/Leinster fan. Bought more and more Guinness as it went on, convinced they would win. Was cheering on the ABs as i have family down in NZ so doubly delighted with the outcome!

[Sloop67]

If Wayne Barnes gets to ref the final, , then at least that means no British teams will be there

[He's here!]

That's a painful one to take for ireland.

New Zealand were superb

They looked so lacklustre in their opening game but have clearly built up a head of steam at the right time.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Well, that was a Test Match and a half, quite magnificent viewing. 👏

[Jones28]

Argentina next for NZ.

France v NZ final I reckon.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i see England beat Fiji 30-24 earlier, plucky side aren't they

they would have more of a chance beating France than SA so i'd like SA to win tonight


a New Zealand v SA final would be the choice for us Rugby Purists :greengrin

[Since90+2]

England won't get near France or SA. Great game for tonight, there is something about real top drawer Rugby games that I love. Dare I say it probably enjoy them than the majority of football games.

[Since90+2]

Incredible start by France. Blowing away South Africa physically, never seen that.

[cabbageandribs1875]

what a start for Le Francais

[cabbageandribs1875]

now this is rugby :agree:

[Jones28]

This game has had everything. More of this please, Mon the springboks

[cabbageandribs1875]

brilliant stuff, i can't remember ever seeing a conversion charged down :greengrin


oh my

[Benny Brazil]

Don't understand the rules - but who cares what a game this is

[cabbageandribs1875]

i wouldn't mind paying to watch this game :agree::greengrin


three tries apiece

HT 21-19 France

[Jim44]

Great game …….. 47-45 France, my prediction.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Like Liam Henderson, these quarter finals have delivered

[Sloop67]

I'm out of breath just watching this game

[cabbageandribs1875]

13 mins to get some points in the 2nd half, poor game :greengrin


anyway 25-19


25-29

28-29

[Jones28]

The incessant music is really annoying.

[Jones28]

6 mins left, SA lead by 1 and look like they’ve got the momentum.

[cabbageandribs1875]

we've just watched the 2023 WC winners












imo :)

[CropleyWasGod]

England the only unbeaten team. :greengrin

[Bishop Hibee]

It’s quite unbelievable a ***** England team has reached the semis. I genuinely think South Africa will destroy them.

[cabbageandribs1875]

another great rugby side knocked out at the QF stage

Hopefully France win that bronze

[CropleyWasGod]

another great rugby side knocked out at the QF stage

Hopefully France win that bronze

Bronze?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Bronze?



i'm glad someone noticed :agree:












what on earth was i thinking :devil:

[CropleyWasGod]

i'm glad someone noticed :agree:












what on earth was i thinking :devil:

You had me :confused: . It's been a long rugby weekend........:greengrin

To be fair, the 2 QF in Paris should have been the SF.

[JimBHibees]

It’s quite unbelievable a ***** England team has reached the semis. I genuinely think South Africa will destroy them.

Just got lucky with the draw

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Another quite brilliant game, amazing stuff. 👏

[cabbageandribs1875]

You had me :confused: . It's been a long rugby weekend........:greengrin

To be fair, the 2 QF in Paris should have been the SF.


absolutely :agree:

[cabbageandribs1875]

two guesses for which participating country had fans fighting amongst themselves























well, maybe just the one guess required to be fair :agree::faf:

https://www.planetrugby.com/news/unsavoury-scenes-as-england-fans-fight-ahead-of-rugby-world-cup-quarter-final

[JimBHibees]

Can’t see anything other than two pretty straightforward wins for ABs and SA. England possibility but will need to up their gear several levels. All blacks by over 25 South Africa by 15 to 20.

[heretoday]

England have done really well and will be a force again soon. But SA are so powerful and clever. Charging down a conversion successfully and opting for scrum after the mark were two moves I'd not seen before.

[JimBHibees]

England have done really well and will be a force again soon. But SA are so powerful and clever. Charging down a conversion successfully and opting for scrum after the mark were two moves I'd not seen before.

Think England have been pretty poor and only just beaten both Japan and Fiji. Think with the quality of player they haven't been great however if they put their best foot forward certainly have a chance. Can't see it though.

[WeeRussell]

England have done really well and will be a force again soon. But SA are so powerful and clever. Charging down a conversion successfully and opting for scrum after the mark were two moves I'd not seen before.

I’m nae rugby expert in any way but I got the impression they’ve been pretty fortunate and are not in the same league as SA, or New Zealand.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i just mucked up my bet, because i was running out of time i accidentally chucked £25 on an Argentina win at +18, when i actually wanted to put it on NZ at -18, very fortunate to cash out 90 seconds into the game and get my full £25 back


missed out on putting it back on now it's started though, ah well :)

[cabbageandribs1875]

some lovely rugby from the all-blacks

17 mins 3-12 NZ

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Long night for Argentina methinks.

[weecounty hibby]

NZ are the absolute masters of doing the simple things well. Only 2 pens that half as well I think. Amazing discipline when defending. On a wet night, with a wet ball they are passing it like it's a sunny night and they are just playing touch. The greatest sporting dynasty without a doubt

[Jones28]

NZ making it look easy.

[cabbageandribs1875]

never in doubt ;)


99.3% of the worlds population want a NZ v SA final, 50% of the 0.7% wanting England in the final are NZ fans


i'm sure of it

[Sloop67]

England will try to keep it tight tomorrow, they will try to stifle South Africa and to control possession then kick downfield and win penalties or get drop goal opportunities, they're a long way behind The Boks and the ABs but sometimes that doesn't mean very much, hopefully South Africa will be able to counter England's game plan

[heretoday]

The NZ kicker was a bit offline tonight. That could be crucial in a final against SA whose Pollard is the best in the world.

[Since90+2]

England will try to keep it tight tomorrow, they will try to stifle South Africa and to control possession then kick downfield and win penalties or get drop goal opportunities, they're a long way behind The Boks and the ABs but sometimes that doesn't mean very much, hopefully South Africa will be able to counter England's game plan

South Africa are the absolute masters when the game is played tight and physical. It's been there trademark for years.

England will be lucky to keep it to a respectable distance. South Africa, Ireland, NZ and France are all way ahead of the other nations. A shame that the way the draw turned it they weren't the semis.

[weecounty hibby]

The NZ kicker was a bit offline tonight. That could be crucial in a final against SA whose Pollard is the best in the world.

Pollard hasn't been starting for SA in their big games though. Libbock is their first choice ten at the moment. Libbock isn't a great kicker either with Faf deklerk taking over in one game I watched

[heretoday]

Pollard hasn't been starting for SA in their big games though. Libbock is their first choice ten at the moment. Libbock isn't a great kicker either with Faf deklerk taking over in one game I watched

I know but Pollard comes on second half and kicks everything in sight. Not that he'll be required today I reckon.

[cabbageandribs1875]

as soon as i saw the headlines i thought i had missed the rugby, pheeeeeww :greengrin

27327

[Lancs Harp]

Im not much of a rubgy fan to be honest but out for a few jars with friends this afternoon I dont think anyone had an SA victory of less than 15 points. Friends all English. But you never know do you.

[weecounty hibby]

Everton and Hibs have made this a thoroughly miserable sporting day. Hope to **** the misery doesn't continue at the rugby. Mon the Boks!

[heretoday]

Everton and Hibs have made this a thoroughly miserable sporting day. Hope to **** the misery doesn't continue at the rugby. Mon the Boks!

👍🏼

[JeMeSouviens]

SA playing basically the only way that gives England a chance. Eye bleeding stuff but England deservedly winning it.

[cabbageandribs1875]

good managing erasmus, that boy was having a mare


i'm hoping Rugby finally breaks out at some stage


though i do have my comfirt blanket of England at +13 :)

[heretoday]

I've not been impressed by Libbock. Nervy somehow. They should get the wee fellow on too.

[cabbageandribs1875]

wow surprised at erasmus taking Etzebeth off

[heretoday]

wow surprised at erasmus taking Etzebeth off

Bad move.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Bad move.


i'm maybe blinded as i'm a great admirer of Etzebeth


Erasmus has possibly seen something i didn't :)

[heretoday]

Kitshoff has had a poor night.

[cabbageandribs1875]

so many changes so soon


not pleasing on the eye but need to give credit to england here as this SA side is absolutely rattled


bloody heck how on earth did england turn that over wtf is going on here

[heretoday]

SA need to get the wings involved more.

[cabbageandribs1875]

SA have absolutely bottled it here

big style

[JeMeSouviens]

so many changes so soon


not pleasing on the eye but need to give credit to england here as this SA side is absolutely rattled


bloody heck how on earth did england turn that over wtf is going on here

Rattled is the word. SA woeful. England taking full advantage.

[cabbageandribs1875]

that kick right there sums up SA this whole game, absolutely dreadful

[cabbageandribs1875]

please NZ rescue this WC :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

that england turnover is quite astonishing, against the best at the breakdown

[cabbageandribs1875]

a try what's going on :shocked:

[heretoday]

Yessssssss..

[JeMeSouviens]

**** knows where that came from … game on!

[cabbageandribs1875]

*timing on SA's side now but they need it nearer that 22



or 5 meter line even better :)




*presuming they get a penalty that is

[cabbageandribs1875]

aw man don't take a penalty from there :(


but then again :greengrin


SA need to secure this restart

[Jones28]

Yassss!!!!

[JeMeSouviens]

aw man don't take a penalty from there :(


but then again :greengrin


SA need to secure this restart

😂

[cabbageandribs1875]

if england get a penalty they will win it


oh wow:greengrin

[heretoday]

Ya beauty!

[Since90+2]

Not a great game of rugby but fascinating nonetheless.

[cabbageandribs1875]

england upset

[Aldo]

Pleasing!

[cabbageandribs1875]

easy in the end :agree:



















:devil: and i still win a mega £14, the £100+ winnings from the footy was a little easier though

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

A bit tougher than I thought, oh well.

[Silversand]

Thank **** for that!

[Jones28]

Thank **** for that.

[He's here!]

England actually deserved to win that. Credit to Borthwick, who's proved a lot of critics wrong.

[cabbageandribs1875]

that was the 2nd time i watched England this WC, the first was v Argentina in their first game and even though they won that 27-10 every single point was from a kick, that haul included 3 drop kicks, i very seldom see one drop kick nowayears so to see three in just one game was quite surreal, their intention was to beat Argentina by kicking everything and i honestly can't remember if they got anywhere near scoring a try? even Argentina were adventurous enough to score a Try, i've obviously no idea if they played more attacking the rest of their group stage games and their QF game but they bore me to tears. they get credit for keeping the scoreline very tight tonight but that's it.


let the Rugby commence

[Golden Bear]

As far as rugby content is involved. tonight's game was one of the poorest we've seen in this world Cup. England's spoiling tactics nearly paid off so all credit to their coaches for a game plan which was devised to frustrate the Springboks - it nearly succeeded but didn't quite. Shame really. ��

[heretoday]

It was quite scrappy due to the conditions mainly but the intensity of rugby at this level is stirring to behold. I have to admit I enjoy it more than watching footballers passing it back and across and feigning injury all the time.

[Golden Bear]

It was quite scrappy due to the conditions mainly but the intensity of rugby at this level is stirring to behold. I have to admit I enjoy it more than watching footballers passing it back and across and feigning injury all the time.

I agree. The raw passion and commitment to their respective Nations has been a feature of this World Cup.

[Lancs Harp]

that was the 2nd time i watched England this WC, the first was v Argentina in their first game and even though they won that 27-10 every single point was from a kick, that haul included 3 drop kicks, i very seldom see one drop kick nowayears so to see three in just one game was quite surreal, their intention was to beat Argentina by kicking everything and i honestly can't remember if they got anywhere near scoring a try? even Argentina were adventurous enough to score a Try, i've obviously no idea if they played more attacking the rest of their group stage games and their QF game but they bore me to tears. they get credit for keeping the scoreline very tight tonight but that's it.


let the Rugby commence

Wake up man its about winning. Didnt see any of Scotlands games but from your post I take it you played "rugby"? And how far did that get you?

[Just_Jimmy]

Wake up man its about winning. Didnt see any of Scotlands games but from your post I take it you played "rugby"? And how far did that get you?England are rotten. A semi final that is nothing more than the result of a sham of a draw.

The poster is right. They might find ways to scrape wins but it's rotten to watch.

End result for both England and Scotland. Shows how bad England have become that they're trotting a 1 point defeat out as a moral victory.



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[weecounty hibby]

So glad that on a day of crap results this one landed right. If England ever decide to play rugby again they will be a top side. While they continue with that strategy of kick, kick again and then kick some more they will keep losing to the very best sides. That is the one difficult match they have had in the tournament and they lost. They also struggled in the group and also against Fiji in the quarters. They have some unbelievably talented players but thankfully for the rest of us that skill is being coached out of them.

[JimBHibees]

So glad that on a day of crap results this one landed right. If England ever decide to play rugby again they will be a top side. While they continue with that strategy of kick, kick again and then kick some more they will keep losing to the very best sides. That is the one difficult match they have had in the tournament and they lost. They also struggled in the group and also against Fiji in the quarters. They have some unbelievably talented players but thankfully for the rest of us that skill is being coached out of them.

Tortuous watch even accounting for the weather. So many cracking players in their team as well.

[heretoday]

I agree. The raw passion and commitment to their respective Nations has been a feature of this World Cup.

I can't get so enthused about club rugby. I always feel they don't tackle with quite the same commitment.

[Since90+2]

I can't get so enthused about club rugby. I always feel they don't tackle with quite the same commitment.

I don't think it's commitment, there is a smaller pool of players in the sport compared to football, so the jump to international standard is huge

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8_nbRIW4AER0xx?format=png&name=small

from the Times

[Sylar]

I can't get so enthused about club rugby. I always feel they don't tackle with quite the same commitment.

As an Edinburgh ST holder, I find this an odd take...

[cabbageandribs1875]

back to club rugby for now :)


Dragons 17 Edinburgh 22
Glasgow 43 Leinster 25, albeit a rather weakened Leinster side, my viewing timing as usual was impeccable by tuning in just in time to see the players shaking hands at the end :rolleyes:

[greenlex]

back to club rugby for now :)


Dragons 17 Edinburgh 22
Glasgow 43 Leinster 25, albeit a rather weakened Leinster side, my viewing timing as usual was impeccable by tuning in just in time to see the players shaking hands at the end :rolleyes:
That was yesterday!:greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

That was yesterday!:greengrin


i know :wink: Edinburgh game was Saturday but i waited until the Glasgow game finished on the Sunday to put both results up instead of one each day :)



anyways, tough games this weekend for the Scottish sides

Edinburgh v Lions
Connaught v Glasgow


both Sat 28th :)



WC predictions

3rd place Friday night Argentina v England
Final Saturday night New Zealand v South Africa

[Sylar]

I'll most likely miss the WC final as I'm at the Edinburgh v Lions game - first home game of the season, so wasn't missing it. They are showing it in the Clubhouse after the Edinburgh game, but I don't think the Mrs would take too kindly to me leaving around 3pm to get to Edinburgh for the game, and not getting back home til near midnight while she chases our two around the entire day :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

stuck £20 on England just before ko at -8

Argentina like giving gifts



73 mins Argentina 23 England 26


stadium playing if you wanna be my lover by the spice girls, ffs :rolleyes:


75 mins penalty Argentina, go for it never mind ET...aww taking the penalty from out wide and he's made an erse of it, they've blown a great chance his team mates on the bench look gutted

lots of regrets for Argentina players, whoever made that decision not to be that bit braver and going for touch ultimately cost his side

[Jim44]

Win for England a certainty. 3rd place ……meh!!

[Jones28]

Turn the ****ing music off ffs

[Jones28]

England get the diddy medal.

[Lancs Harp]

England get the diddy medal.

And Scotland dont even get to the knock out. Knock it all you want England finished 3rd .. draw blah blah blah but France, Scotland, Wales and Ireland failed. England with their most disappointing World Cup team for years finished 3rd. Get over it.

[Jim44]

I thought England were mince for most the second half. 2nd best of the losers is something I suppose. :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

all three Barrett brothers start

[Stairway 2 7]

And Scotland dont even get to the knock out. Knock it all you want England finished 3rd .. draw blah blah blah but France, Scotland, Wales and Ireland failed. England with their most disappointing World Cup team for years finished 3rd. Get over it.

Only about a dozen nations in the world play it seriously its like bragging about winning an international trophy at cricket, baseball or kabaddi