Rugby

[cabbageandribs1875]

Leeds Rhinos win the challenge cup final :)

[Sylar]

Delighted to see Gregor recall Finn to the squad for Friday night's game, but more importantly, it's fantastic to see Duhan being called into his first Scotland squad. He'll be a huge player for us!

[McD]

Brilliant match between Exeter and racing 92

[cabbageandribs1875]

two weeks running i've been up watching the box and two weeks running i've forgot the all-blacks v australia bledisloe cup games, 27-7 this week after a 16-16 draw last week so new zealand need just one win from remaining two games to be played in Oz.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

two weeks running i've been up watching the box and two weeks running i've forgot the all-blacks v australia bledisloe cup games, 27-7 this week after a 16-16 draw last week so new zealand need just one win from remaining two games to be played in Oz.

Just watched this, what is it that NZ have got right re Covid that enables them to allow such a big crowd into a sporting event?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Just watched this, what is it that NZ have got right re Covid that enables them to allow such a big crowd into a sporting event?


yeah i read that, 46k :agree:

where did you just watch it btw, is the whole game available online ?

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

yeah i read that, 46k :agree:

where did you just watch it btw, is the whole game available online ?

Recorded it on the TiVo.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Recorded it on the TiVo.



ah well :(

[davy67 +]

Just watched this, what is it that NZ have got right re Covid that enables them to allow such a big crowd into a sporting event?
I spoke to a guy today who's daughter was a last weeks game , no masks , no social distancing

[nellio]

I read that the week before the match they only had 1 new case of covid 19 in the whole country. They have pretty much eliminated it by taking ultra tough measures at the start such as shutting their borders etc.

[heretoday]

Sad about Roy Laidlaw and his Alzheimers condition. What a nice man and his family are great too.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

England v Barbarians game off on Sunday, 12 Barbarians players breached Covid protocols.

[weecounty hibby]

Scotland playing well against Georgia tonight

[Jones28]

It’s a pumping

[Fritz]

Good professional performance. Some basic errors but that’s to be expected in the 1st game of the season. Very impressive use of the driving maul which isn’t something Scotland have historically been good at. And Georgia are usually tough up front. Would have liked to have seen some more expansive play and get the backs involved more but maybe not ideal conditions for that. Thought we looked markedly more threatening when Russell came on.

[Sylar]

Very happy with tonight's result and performance. Fraser Brown was fantastic, as were Darcy Graham, Jamie Ritchie and Blair Kinghorn. Thought Finn added something extra when he came on too, and you can really see what van der Merwe is going to add to this team - him on one wing and Graham on the other bodes well for pace and power on the flanks.

Quite disappointed with Adam Hastings tonight - his kicks in open play were alright, but his conversions were poor.

[McD]

Very happy with tonight's result and performance. Fraser Brown was fantastic, as were Darcy Graham, Jamie Ritchie and Blair Kinghorn. Thought Finn added something extra when he came on too, and you can really see what van der Merwe is going to add to this team - him on one wing and Graham on the other bodes well for pace and power on the flanks.

Quite disappointed with Adam Hastings tonight - his kicks in open play were alright, but his conversions were poor.



agree, Scotland’s pack in general played well, as has already been mentioned, the driving maul was a weapon not often displayed by Scotland.

Finn Russell changed the dynamics of the game, the ball was moving more quickly and more purposefully. I find Hastings to be quite a conservative fly half, Russell brings an X factor that makes his team much more dangerous.

overall, a very professional performance, the type of result that too often Scotland haven’t turned in, in previous times we’d have hugged and puffed to a fairly narrow victory, this is more like what a NZ, Australia, SA, or an England would do. No fuss, just get the job done in a comfortable manner. I’ve criticised Townsend a lot, but he needs to be given credit here.

[davy67 +]

Plenty positives from lasts nights game . Generally Scotland never usually play that well in the first of the autumn test matches so it was good to get a convincing victory even if Georgia weren't that great . Good confidence builder for the next weekends game which will a tough match but not unwinnable I'd say . Finn ads that extra X factor to the team so it good to see that they've come to their senses and sorted out their differences

[cabbageandribs1875]

Ireland beat italy 50-17 to go top of six nations, if they beat france next week with a bonus point they win the six nation, if they win without a bonus point then england will win it by beating italy with a bonus point


France v Wales tonight ITV 4 8:10pm ko

FT ospreys 3 glasgow 12

[DaveF]

NRL grand final, Sunday morning at 8.30 for the league fans. Penrith v Melbourne.

[Sylar]

Ireland beat italy 50-17 to go top of six nations, if they beat france next week with a bonus point they win the six nation, if they win without a bonus point then england will win it by beating italy with a bonus point


France v Wales tonight ITV 4 8:10pm ko

FT ospreys 3 glasgow 12

Ospreys 23-15 Glasgow FT

[cabbageandribs1875]

Ospreys 23-15 Glasgow FT


flip, that'll teach me to check if it's FT first :doh:

[Sylar]

Ospreys really are a completely different animal this year under Toby Booth - they're playing some really explosive stuff, but are also controlling games very well indeed. A poor outing from Glasgow, but obviously missing some key players to the Georgia game yesterday.

Looking forward to France vs Wales in 10 minutes. Should be a cracking game.

[Sylar]

What an explosive start!

Wales with a try inside the opening minute.

[Sylar]

France finding their stride now - 3 tries in response to the Welsh going ahead - some incisive and very fast rugby from the French.

[cabbageandribs1875]

as good as they can be it's astonishing the amount of penalties the french give away

another french try 31-16

then concede a try straight away lol

31-21

lovely try 36-21. conversion to come

[cabbageandribs1875]

well done the women getting a 13-13 draw with france, if it wasn't for the very poor line-outs they really could have won that, they had the the bulk of the possession just a pity at those line outs. beautiful conversion for our try as well, hastings would have been proud of that kick

[nellio]

France looking really decent at the moment.

Wales Scotland will be a good game this weekend. Hopefully we (Wales) will just edge it.

[heretoday]

England v Barbarians game off on Sunday, 12 Barbarians players breached Covid protocols.

One of them said he was "Beyond gutted" at the outcome. Typical rugger talk.
Didn't sound entirely genuine!

[Sylar]

France looking really decent at the moment.

Wales Scotland will be a good game this weekend. Hopefully we (Wales) will just edge it.

I think this is one of the better chances we've had at getting a win down in Wales - the squad look harmonised, our star players are performing well and we're making fewer technical mistakes than last year. The addition of van der Merwe gives us a high-speed tank on the left side too, with the explosive pace of Darcy on the right. If we can keep it competitive and manage the breakdowns well, I think we could genuinely come close to getting a much needed win!

Hope it's a good game regardless of the score.

[cabbageandribs1875]

great chance for 3 points in the first two mins but russell puts it wide


sigh

[cabbageandribs1875]

another **** up by the scottish line out leads to a welsh try, russell off injured, not taking advantage of our early possession, only one way this will go now imo

7-3

[weecounty hibby]

7-6 HT. Shouldn't be behind at half time but still think we will go on to win

[cabbageandribs1875]

Hogg not happy with the captain deciding to take the penalty instead of kicking for touch down at the try line.

HT 7-6

[weecounty hibby]

Hogg not happy with the captain deciding to take the penalty instead of kicking for touch down at the try line.

HT 7-6
Hogg is the captain. It was the right decision to take the points in the end. Guaranteed 3 rather than a possible 5/7

[Sylar]

Need to utilise the wind now in the second half. Played well but haven’t capitalised.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Hogg is the captain. It was the right decision to take the points in the end. Guaranteed 3 rather than a possible 5/7



oh right, why did commentator say hogg was disappointed with fraser browns decision to go for the posts :confused:

[cabbageandribs1875]

when your told by the referee to use it price...******* use it

woop scottish try :)

i cant believe hastings missed that conversion

[Magpie]

Abysmal conversion

[Magpie]

That’s how you take a penalty/conversion

[cabbageandribs1875]

brilliant kick halfpenny, makes hastings attempt look even more ridiculous


hastings pass intersected. he's not having a great game is he, now off injured

mon scotland get another try

[cabbageandribs1875]

penalty scotland :greengrin 14-10 should secure the win :)

really could have been a lot more

first three wins on the bounce for 24 years, only a 3rd away win(exc italy) in 42 games


not a classic by any means but well done

[weecounty hibby]

Good start to the day. Ritchie deserved man if the match in a deserved victory. Positives to build in!! Right, cmon Hibs make it a Carlsberg day

[HibernianJK]

brilliant kick halfpenny, makes hastings attempt look even more ridiculous


hastings pass intersected. he's not having a great game is he, now off injured

mon scotland get another try

I just don’t think Hastings is very good. Would be great to have a more capable back up behind Russell. His kicking is terrible.

Only caught the last 20 but what caught my eye was the lack of stupid mistakes that usually pop up with Scotland. Seemed very disciplined.

[Sylar]

I just don’t think Hastings is very good. Would be great to have a more capable back up behind Russell. His kicking is terrible.

Only caught the last 20 but what caught my eye was the lack of stupid mistakes that usually pop up with Scotland. Seemed very disciplined.

I’d like to see Jaco van der Walt get a call up when he becomes eligible. I think he’s an upgrade from Hastings.

Having said that, an exceptional performance from Scotland. Much better discipline from us!

[hfc rd]

The only highlight of the day. Scotland were tremendous particularly our defensive game. Very disciplined which is the most pleasing aspect of this big win. Only got breached once which came from a very poor line out in our own 22.

Hopefully we continue this form and momentum going forward.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Only caught the last 20 but what caught my eye was the lack of stupid mistakes that usually pop up with Scotland. Seemed very disciplined.


wales had(i think) about 14 turnovers so not that disciplined :greengrin of course we have to give scotland credit for the win but, that welsh performance was one i've not witnessed for a long time.

elsewhere that was a hammering the all blacks dished out to the wallabies this morning 5-43 to win the series

[Glory Lurker]

Frankly disgusted by the failure of the comm to apologise for audible swearing there. Don’t they realise sensitive football fans might be watching?

[cabbageandribs1875]

not a great irish performance, deserved win for france. 35-27

england win on points

[Mr Grieves]

Not exactly the best rugby I've ever seen but I enjoyed that Wales - Scotland match. Scotland closed the game brilliantly

[weecounty hibby]

Thank god Scotland won yesterday or my state of depression would be off the scale. I think there is a real changing if the guard at the moment. Scotland have got a younger team than we have for a while. And for the first time in absolutely years we have a good set of forwards and a good set of backs at the same time. Wales are going backwards. Guys like AWJ, North and Halfpenny didnt have much impact on the game and are hard to replace. Tupiric was a big kiss for them as well and Scotland's back row were the better if the two. The Scotland bench was stronger than the Welsh one too. All in all looking promising for Scotland

[Sylar]

Incredibly uncomfortable first win of the season for Edinburgh against a stubborn Scarlets side - even after they went down to 13 men (eventually getting back to 14) they were resolute and hard to break down.

Less penalties and errors tonight, which was encouraging. Hopefully the return of our international players will give us another lift.

[DaveF]

League Fans - The opening state of origin game is on Wednesday at 9.10am.

[nellio]

Wales poor again on the weekend. Tons of pens given away.

I think we will have a poor autumn tournament and that will be Pivac away. He dosent look the right man for the job.

Well dont to Scotland. Played well and I dont mind losing to the country I reside in and support.

[weecounty hibby]

Wales poor again on the weekend. Tons of pens given away.

I think we will have a poor autumn tournament and that will be Pivac away. He dosent look the right man for the job.

Well dont to Scotland. Played well and I dont mind losing to the country I reside in and support.
Do you think that there is an aging group of previously excellent players in that team who no longer have the same impact on games, but you are struggling to replace them? I thought for the first time in a long time that if you were to pick a XV out of the squads the majority would have been Scots

[nellio]

Maybe there is some of that but we have some really good young players and some of the players aren't that old they have just been around a long time. AWJ is the exception to that.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

How good were The All Blacks on Saturday morning? Fantastic viewing.

[weecounty hibby]

How good were The All Blacks on Saturday morning? Fantastic viewing.

Yeah, I watched the game as well. The All Blacks are just on a different level to everyone else. Fantastic to watch. Saw the 2nd half of the France Ireland game and it was decent as well. Open flowing game of rugby that went end to end, good to watch

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Yeah, I watched the game as well. The All Blacks are just on a different level to everyone else. Fantastic to watch. Saw the 2nd half of the France Ireland game and it was decent as well. Open flowing game of rugby that went end to end, good to watch

Watched the latter game at t-time tonight, not the same when you already know the outcome.

[Sylar]

Glasgow taking a bit of a batter at home to Leinster tonight, but they've sticking in there, putting them under pressure in the second half.

Still, Leinster well ahead in abysmal conditions.

[davy67 +]

League Fans - The opening state of origin game is on Wednesday at 9.10am.
Looking forward to it , hopefully NSW can keep their winning streak going, there's no way I could ever support a team playing in Maroon :wink:

[DaveF]

Looking forward to it , hopefully NSW can keep their winning streak going, there's no way I could ever support a team playing in Maroon :wink:

Usually I want Queensland to win but that colour just kills any support so come on NSW.

[DaveF]

Bah.

Up 10 zip and now down 18-10 with 10mins to go.

[cabbageandribs1875]

both finn russell and adam hastings out of the upcoming nations cup matches with hastings likely to also miss next years six nations, costly win over wales.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Some turnaround from last week, Aus 24 NZ 22.

[nellio]

Edinburgh playing Cardiff tonight. Monday night rugby a bit odd!

[Sylar]

Edinburgh playing Cardiff tonight. Monday night rugby a bit odd!

What I'd give to be standing pitchside with a beer in hand under the lights watching this. Monday night or not, I miss evenings at Murrayfield.

[Jamesie]

Edinburgh playing Cardiff tonight. Monday night rugby a bit odd!

Amazed that match was able to finish, it was a real pea souper!

[Sylar]

I had my worries around the 60 minute mark that it was going to be called off and it just got worse...

Great performance from Edinburgh - shutting any team out is impressive, but especially when our team was mainly second string players with none of our internationals back in the fray yet.

[HH81]

Sky sports Live now for the state of origin in Aus.

Should be awesome.

[DaveF]

Sky sports Live now for the state of origin in Aus.

Should be awesome.

Strong showing from NSW which sets it up for next week's decider.

Roll on Wednesday and Brisbane!

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Plenty Autumn Series Internationals on Amazon Prime from this Sunday onwards.

[davy67 +]

Strong showing from NSW which sets it up for next week's decider.

Roll on Wednesday and Brisbane!
Far better from the Blues this week a real captains performance from Tedesco

[Sylar]

Plenty Autumn Series Internationals on Amazon Prime from this Sunday onwards.

Italy vs Scotland is also on Prime on Saturday - 12:45pm KO.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Italy vs Scotland is also on Prime on Saturday - 12:45pm KO.

Aye sorry, meant Saturday.

[cabbageandribs1875]

world rankings

1. S Africa
2 New zealand
3. England
4. France
5. Ireland
6. Australia
7. Scotland
8. Wales
9. Japan
10. Argentina

France were 10th in 2019

[weecounty hibby]

Good weekend of rugby coming up although France v Fiji is off due to Fijians testing + for Covid

[Sylar]

Aye sorry, meant Saturday.

There's also the Ireland vs Wales game this evening on Channel 4!

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

There's also the Ireland vs Wales game this evening on Channel 4!

Aye, I thought most folk would spot that as opposed to the Amazon games.

[weecounty hibby]

Wales look pretty poor again tonight. Too many mistakes and penalties. No control at breakdown, struggling at scrum time. Not looking good for them just now

[Sylar]

Aye, I thought most folk would spot that as opposed to the Amazon games.

I actually didn't realise - my ! was genuine surprise :greengrin

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Good game between The All Blacks and Argentina so far, Argentina ahead 16-3 at HT.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Argentina win 25-15. 1st ever win v The All Blacks.

[JimBHibees]

Argentina win 25-15. 1st ever win v The All Blacks.

Wow some shock that.

[Golden Bear]

Watching Italy v Scotland on Amazon Prime. Hoggy is a passionate guy, he was totally overcome during Flower of Scotland. I'm sure he is also a Hibby as I've seen him at Easter Road a good number of times.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i can't remember a scottish performance littered with so many errors

HT italy deservedly lead 11-7

and another penalty gifted at the start of the 2nd half..14-7

[Jones28]

Scotland leading 17-19

[cabbageandribs1875]

FT italy 17 scotland 28

by jings that was scrappy, longest 80 mins of rugby i've ever watched :greengrin. a player with a guid scottish surname getting the man of the match award...van der merwe :)

[Golden Bear]

FT italy 17 scotland 28

by jings that was scrappy, longest 80 mins of rugby i've ever watched :greengrin. a player with a guid scottish surname getting the man of the match award...van der merwe :)

Leave the guy alone, a finer Jockbock you couldn't meet! 😁

[Sylar]

FT italy 17 scotland 28

by jings that was scrappy, longest 80 mins of rugby i've ever watched :greengrin. a player with a guid scottish surname getting the man of the match award...van der merwe :)

Delighted for him. I've championed Duhan to be an asset to Scotland for years now, as he's sensational for Edinburgh. A tank of a boy that has pace and good agility.

We made hard work of that today but good resilience to come back from such an abysmal opening.

[weecounty hibby]

Really good second half, less penalties and much more accurate at the breakdown. Good result

[Golden Bear]

Watching Italy v Scotland on Amazon Prime. Hoggy is a passionate guy, he was totally overcome during Flower of Scotland. I'm sure he is also a Hibby as I've seen him at Easter Road a good number of times.

Well, what do you know.

:greengrin

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-union/stuart-hogg-his-friendship-john-mcginn-and-lifting-national-mood-after-shoddy-year-3036148

[cabbageandribs1875]

italy v fiji cancelled this weekend after 29 positive tests returned from the fijians :rolleyes: france were awarded a 28-0 win for their cancellation so i assume the italians will get the same ? no doubt they will all be fit and raring to go for the scotland game :greengrin

[DaveF]

Queensland beat NSW to win the series 2-1.

Heartsesque professional foul 3mins from time when Addo Carr was taken out chasing a kick 10m from the try line. Probably should have been a penalty try but just a penalty and they held out.

[Sylar]

italy v fiji cancelled this weekend after 29 positive tests returned from the fijians :rolleyes: france were awarded a 28-0 win for their cancellation so i assume the italians will get the same ? no doubt they will all be fit and raring to go for the scotland game :greengrin

So France top the group despite not having played a minute of rugby? And Italy likely to follow suit? Why are we even bothering - what a farce this competition already is. Fine, give France the win, but no need for a bonus point, table topping outcome :rolleyes:

[cabbageandribs1875]

So France top the group despite not having played a minute of rugby? And Italy likely to follow suit? Why are we even bothering - what a farce this competition already is. Fine, give France the win, but no need for a bonus point, table topping outcome :rolleyes:



Scotland v Fiji now cancelled, pity as i was really looking forward to that fixture more than the game with france, so looks like the game with france on sunday will be the decider though the french will then know what they need against the italians, what a farce for the fijians though all that travelling/training for nowt.

fancy the french against us, they will still be smarting after that defeat to us costing them the six nations.

[weecounty hibby]

Australia v Argentina 15 all draw. Argentina are a decent side but they are niggly annoying *******s

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Australia v Argentina 15 all draw. Argentina are a decent side but they are niggly annoying *******s

Just finished watching it, very decent match.

[nellio]

Wales poor again today.

Looking forward to Scotland France tomorrow.

[nellio]

Also Eddie Jones comments about Ireland in the press! What a ******.

Called them the United nations.

Aye because you don't have the Vinupola boys who were born in NZ and grew up in South Wales!!!

[weecounty hibby]

Also Eddie Jones comments about Ireland in the press! What a ******.

Called them the United nations.

Aye because you don't have the Vinupola boys who were born in NZ and grew up in South Wales!!!

He is a prick and one of the most disliked people in world rugby. I've said it before on this thread but England will Hoover up the best talent from all over the world as they pay the most money. And it is a joke for him to talk like that. Hartley, cokanasiga, underhill, Tuilagi, Vinupola x 2, Heinz all foreign born. And that's just off the top of my head

[heretoday]

Wales poor again today.

Looking forward to Scotland France tomorrow.

Is it on TV at all?

[cabbageandribs1875]

thank goodness for grandparents :greengrin

this seasons six nations squad foreigners

Scotland -16
Wales.......11
Italy............8
Ireland.......8
England.....4
France.........4

P.S. i freakin detest eddie jones :agree:

P.P.S. i fancy a french win today :(

[cabbageandribs1875]

hope we're nor in for a hiding here

great kick from weir 6-6

some stupid penalties here

don't see many drop goals nowadays 9-6 france

9-9

[weecounty hibby]

Good game so far.

[cabbageandribs1875]

what a freakin awful penalty to give away straight fron the restart, amateur, i feel for townsend

12-9 france,

[cabbageandribs1875]

has anyone ever saw a scottish side actually take advantage of a penalty advantage :rolleyes:


another great kuck from weir 12-12

great defence to stop a french try HT 12-12

[Peevemor]

It's quite interesting to hear the referee coming to then explaining a decision, and without any histrionics from the players.

[cabbageandribs1875]

French try within 2 mins of the restart, that'll be that

19-12. sigh

as i said earlier we never take full advantage of an advantage:rolleyes: anyways.. 19-15

even when we get a lineout we didn't deserve we make an absolute james hunt of it, i think ritchie has had a pretty poor game

[cabbageandribs1875]

my goodness even one last chance is totally ****** up with a terrible kick by hogg, dreadful kick

[Sylar]

I'd like Wayne Barnes to never referee a Scotland game again. Some of his penalties against us were a result of him unable to contain himself in blowing the whistle (especially the not releasing and not rolling away penalties).

France deserved their win, no arguments - they were the better side when it counted.

[weecounty hibby]

said that to my wife during the game!! Barnes is a shocking ref and it went just the penalties he gave against us for me, it was the stuff he let go when he should have awarded pens to Scotland. Wasn't a bad game with two very solid defences, not much in it except for one bit of good attacking play from France. They are an excellent side at the moment so not too disheartened

[Sylar]

Conditions in Glasgow for the Munster game are horrific. Unsurprisingly, lots of handling errors all over the pitch so far!

[DaveF]

League grand final tonight at 8pm. Wigan v Saints.

[Scorrie]

League grand final tonight at 8pm. Wigan v Saints.

What a game. The tackling is ferocious

[HH81]

First super league game I have watched in a while. Been decent.

I can not wait to get back to watching the Keighley Cougars.

[davy67 +]

Despite the score line its been a good game so far . I assume the half time hooter is automatically sounded if not the guy in charge would've been rather embarrassed if that penalty had' ever been missed

[HH81]

If missed in normal play it would have been a drop out. As HT hooter went prior to it been taken it was always HT as soon as it was kicked or missed.

[davy67 +]

If missed in normal play it would have been a drop out. As HT hooter went prior to it been taken it was always HT as soon as it was kicked or missed.

A wee bit off putting for the kickers concentration though having it go off as your preparing

[Scorrie]

1st try after an hours play. Some defending. One of the Saints players has made 62 tackles!

[Scorrie]

What a game. Saint Helens win on the last play. Sport at its best

[cabbageandribs1875]

astonishing finish, bet365 wouldn't let me cash out for £25 with 2 mins remaining....so they ended up paying me £57 instead :)

[Scorrie]

astonishing finish, bet365 wouldn't let me cash out for £25 with 2 mins remaining....so they ended up paying me £57 instead :)

👍😃

[DaveF]

A brilliant game with an unbelievable ending.

Hardaker will be gutted after hitting the bar and then missing again with 2mins to go.

Both teams have it everything. Outstanding stuff.

[cabbageandribs1875]

all blacks back to winning ways this morning routing argentina 38-zilch


france v italy tonight

[cabbageandribs1875]

poor stuff from british airways this morning

24113

[nellio]

poor stuff from british airways this morning

24113

Especially considering they have a major facility at Cardiff airport!!

[cabbageandribs1875]

Especially considering they have a major facility at Cardiff airport!!



maybe the BA stands for Boris Airways :)




anyways...bit of a farce for the England v France final with the French having to field quite a youthful side and no experience or Dupont


Ireland v Scotland for 3rd/4th place
Wales v Italy for 5th/6th

but at least we finally get to see the Fijians play Georgia

Australia v Argentina early doors Sat

[Sylar]

maybe the BA stands for Boris Airways :)




anyways...bit of a farce for the England v France final with the French having to field quite a youthful side and no experience or Dupont


Ireland v Scotland for 3rd/4th place
Wales v Italy for 5th/6th

but at least we finally get to see the Fijians play Georgia

Australia v Argentina early doors Sat

Gregor gone for a different look this week. Pleased to see Darcy back in though I am a little surprised to see Duncan Weir dropped. He's looked great in the recent games - having said that, Van Der Walt is a class act at 10 and I'm delighted to see him being called into the Scotland setup (though as an Edinburgh man, I'm probably biased).

[weecounty hibby]

Van der Walt was always going to move Weir out. I like Duncy and he is a decent player but he will now be behind Russell, Hastings and Van der Walt.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Gregor gone for a different look this week. Pleased to see Darcy back in though I am a little surprised to see Duncan Weir dropped. He's looked great in the recent games - having said that, Van Der Walt is a class act at 10 and I'm delighted to see him being called into the Scotland setup (though as an Edinburgh man, I'm probably biased).



i've been surprised at how good his kicking has been :agree: he's had a couple of decent performances, i don't think i've actually saw van der walt but i always seem to forget whenever Edinburgh/Glasgow teams are on the tellybox

[Sylar]

This referee is utterly, utterly dreadful. Two bull**** decisions = 2 Irish tries.

[Jones28]

This referee is utterly, utterly dreadful. Two bull**** decisions = 2 Irish tries.

I don’t understand that last Irish penalty, how is Fraser Brown supposed to roll away when there are 2 players on top of him?

[Jones28]

Lack of discipline AGAIN.

[Sylar]

Lack of discipline AGAIN.

I’d agree based on some of the penalties but Taylor should NEVER have been sinbinned, there was no clarity on grounding for Ireland’s second try and their third try was as clear a forward pass as you’ll see! And how Fraser Brown is expected to move anywhere is a total mystery.

Some poor decisions from Scotland’s players (especially at the breakdowns) but the ref was appalling.

[McD]

I’d agree based on some of the penalties but Taylor should NEVER have been sinbinned, there was no clarity on grounding for Ireland’s second try and their third try was as clear a forward pass as you’ll see! And how Fraser Brown is expected to move anywhere is a total mystery.

Some poor decisions from Scotland’s players (especially at the breakdowns) but the ref was appalling.


also thought he was a bit blasé about the possible eye gouging incident - “I’ll have one quick look and then we’re moving on”

eye gouging is a pretty serious offence, and would normally be properly checked, but he seemed to be keen to move things on as fast as he could

[Jones28]

also thought he was a bit blasé about the possible eye gouging incident - “I’ll have one quick look and then we’re moving on”

eye gouging is a pretty serious offence, and would normally be properly checked, but he seemed to be keen to move things on as fast as he could

I was surprised it wasn’t scrutinised as closely as Scotland’s overall discipline was in the breakdown of play, especially in the tackle.

Might just be the ones in my head but Ritchie seemed to cop it particularly badly today. Maybe a hard lesson to learn that they have to give the refs no excuses - we have the worst record in the ANC, so it isn’t one game and one referee.

[Jones28]

I’d agree based on some of the penalties but Taylor should NEVER have been sinbinned, there was no clarity on grounding for Ireland’s second try and their third try was as clear a forward pass as you’ll see! And how Fraser Brown is expected to move anywhere is a total mystery.

Some poor decisions from Scotland’s players (especially at the breakdowns) but the ref was appalling.

Agree with all, hard lesson learned today, but as I said to McD our record is poor when it comes to silly things at the breakdown, we must take a leaf out of the books of others and learn to be more controlled.

[HibernianJK]

Have just seen the highlights and how on earth that knock on was ruled deliberate is beyond belief.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i think the french gave away 18 penalties in that game...the last one costing them dearly, brave performance though from their 2nd team, they still had the chance in regulation time by going 7 points ahead with just three minutes remaining but you just knew they would gift yet another penalty from the restart and they duly obliged by losing a converted try, all credit goes to the young french team though imo, a full french team would have won that i think

[Sergio sledge]

I’d agree based on some of the penalties but Taylor should NEVER have been sinbinned, there was no clarity on grounding for Ireland’s second try and their third try was as clear a forward pass as you’ll see! And how Fraser Brown is expected to move anywhere is a total mystery.

Some poor decisions from Scotland’s players (especially at the breakdowns) but the ref was appalling.

I think that the Taylor sin-binning was harsh, but I can see why the referee gave it. I said to myself when I saw the first replay that it looked like he instinctively stuck his hand out to block the ball. So hard to tell though, so I still think it was harsh.

On the grounding of the ball, the referee gave the try so he had clearly seen the grounding. If the on-field decision is a try then the TMO has to see clear evidence that it shouldn't be a try to reverse the decision, there was nothing clear so they stuck with the on-field decision.

If the referee had said that he couldn't see if it was grounded properly and asked the TMO to check the grounding, or if he had said "try, yes or no?" then the decision may have been different as the TMO could say there's no clear grounding and not award the try.

This is the correct way to do things, the referee is still in charge and should take responsibility and make decisions, so they should, wherever possible, make a decision and ask the TMO to check if there's any reason it should be over turned rather than going to the TMO to get a decision made.

The final pass to Earls certainly was caught in front of where it was passed, but that doesn't necessarily mean it was a forward pass according to how the laws are interpreted at the minute. It is currently interpreted by looking at the hands of the player passing the ball and not the motion of the ball. If the hands pass the ball backwards it is considered a backwards pass, even if the ball travels forwards. If a player is running forward, the ball has forward momentum, so even if it is passed backwards it can still travel forward because of its forward momentum, in order to give the benefit to attacking teams and try to boost try scoring, this forward momentum is allowed if the player passes the ball backwards.

To me it looked like O'Mahony's hands were passing the ball backwards, so even though the ball travelled forward it is classed as a backwards pass.

[Sylar]

Superb game going on in Belfast just now - Heineken Cup - Ulster currently lead Toulouse 12-7, after racing into a 2 try lead.

[cabbageandribs1875]

very tough game for Edinburgh tonight v present french league toppers La Rochelle 8PM ko

[Sylar]

Great to see us back to full strength, but deary me are La Rochelle an impressive side. They move the ball so quickly!

0-8 so far.

[Sylar]

3-8 HT

La Rochelle by far the better side, but we've defended well to keep it so close. Hardly ventured into their 22!

Been looking forward to having us back to full strength for weeks, but this really is a challenging first fixture, post-internationals.

[cabbageandribs1875]

that was some scoreline from yesterday afternoon


Bristol 38 Clermont 51 long time i've saw one as high as that



Exeter v Glasgow this afternoon....stuart hogg and jonny gray in the exeter team




42-0 twas a hammering both Gray and Hogg scoring a try


meanwhile the draw for the WC in france takes place tomorrow...



Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
Band 4: Americas 1, Americas 2, Europe 1, Europe 2
Band 5: Africa 1, Oceania 1, Asia / Pacific 1, Final Qualifier Winners

[JimBHibees]

that was some scoreline from yesterday afternoon


Bristol 38 Clermont 51 long time i've saw one as high as that



Exeter v Glasgow this afternoon....stuart hogg and jonny gray in the exeter team




42-0 twas a hammering both Gray and Hogg scoring a try


meanwhile the draw for the WC in france takes place tomorrow...



Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
Band 4: Americas 1, Americas 2, Europe 1, Europe 2
Band 5: Africa 1, Oceania 1, Asia / Pacific 1, Final Qualifier Winners


Very tough draw getting South Africa and Ireland need to play out our skin to qualify imo.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Very tough draw getting South Africa and Ireland need to play out our skin to qualify imo.


i'm saying right here, right now...we won't qualify :(





anyways, the Glasgow v Edinburgh fixture on 27th dec has been postponed with at least four covid cases and those still isolating in the glasgow squad, hopefully the return fixture on 2nd january will still go ahead.

[cabbageandribs1875]

van der walt misses a last minute conversion so glasgow hold out to win 23-22

then glasgow miss a last kick penalty in time added on

[Sylar]

van der walt misses a last minute conversion so glasgow hold out to win 23-22

then glasgow miss a last kick penalty in time added on

Thought Glasgow ultimately deserver their win - that restart in the second half was phenomenal, to get themselves well clear.

Some great young players in that Glasgow team too - young Ross Thompson had a great game tonight.

Really not been a great year from an Edinburgh perspective!

[weecounty hibby]

Six nations is back today. Won't be the same without crowds and I can't remember the last time didn't actually go to one of the games either home or away. Really looking forward to seeing Redpath in a blue jersey. Think it will be between England and France for the championship but Scotland will do well i think.

[davy67 +]

Italy are pretty poor, France on easy street for most of this game

[Sylar]

So damned nervous. Never seen us win at Twickenham: this is a good team today...but im never confident against England.

Proud family today as young Cameron Redpath makes his debut. Come on Scotland!!!

[Pretty Boy]

Why are the players socially distanced for the anthems? They are literally going to be scrumming, rucking and breathing and sweating all over each other in 5 minutes time.

[GRA]

8-0 up after 32 minutes. Thoroughly deserved been a great start

[Hibee87]

We are the better team here, can't say I've ever watched Scotland at Twickenham play so well. England guaranteed to win now 😂

[Pretty Boy]

Scotland are all over England. Could be out of sight.

[hibeg]

This is the best I have seen. You wouldn’t know we were down to 14 at the start of second half. Unreal

[Hibee87]

Scotland are all over England. Could be out of sight.

We should be 5 ahead on kicks and at least a try up.....like watching Hibs sometimes, gotta take our chances!

[GlesgaeHibby]

Scotland are all over England. Could be out of sight.

We all know how this ends...

[Pretty Boy]

Game over.

MOTM for the Hibs man as well.

[cabbageandribs1875]

fantastic result :thumbsup: well done Sconnie Botland


the cups coming home

[MartinfaePorty]

What a weekend this is turning into!

[Mr Grieves]

We've not been ourselves today... that was a thoroughly professional performance. What a day!

[David_D]

What a result. Fact they kept mentioning it would be first win in England in my lifetime makes it even better

[Hiber-nation]

That was incredible. We p***** all over them!!

[weecounty hibby]

Yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssss. What a ducking performance. Could have been 6-25. Absolutely over the moon. What a day of sporting happiness

[Golden Bear]

Brilliant! All of a sudden the world is feeling a better place! I think I'm entitled to a few wee goldies tonight. 🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃

[hibeg]

Just wow !!!!!!
How complete a performance was that.
Completely dominated them. I would guess all the figures will show that England have never been so humiliated in the 6 nations at home, EVER 😀😀😀😀

[Golden Bear]

Game over.

MOTM for the Hibs man as well.

Aye, Hoggy is a frequent visitor to Easter Road. 👍

[cabbageandribs1875]

only the 4th time Scotland has won our opening game in the six nations....and the first away from home



three home games this year, away to france

[JoeT]

Wow. I don't understand how emotional I get watching Scotland's rugby team. Don't know half the rules. Been to only about 10 matches but still get sucked in.

[Sir David Gray]

Not a rugby fan at all but great result, well done Scotland.

[Golden Bear]

Wow. I don't understand how emotional I get watching Scotland's rugby team. Don't know half the rules. Been to only about 10 matches but still get sucked in.

The game grows on you I can assure you.👍

[Jim44]

Enjoy your Monkey’s Shoulder tonight, John. I’ll settle for two or three Highland Parks. :aok:

[cabbageandribs1875]

Italy 10 France 50

earlier today

[hibeg]

The game grows on you I can assure you.👍

Days like today make watching Scotland rugby worthwhile. So many frustrations in the past but that was immense.
The English must be shell shocked

[CloudSquall]

Get it supremely right ****ing roond ye Eddie Jones.

Nothing better than seeing him come out with his usual pre match nonsense trying to be smart and then seeing it thrown right back in his face.

Pleasing doesn't do it justice.

[Golden Bear]

Enjoy your Monkey’s Shoulder tonight, John. I’ll settle for two or three Highland Parks. :aok:

Definitely entitled tonight Jim.


😄🥃🥃🥃🥃

[ACLeith]

Get it supremely right ****ing roond ye Eddie Jones.

Nothing better than seeing him come out with his usual pre match nonsense trying to be smart and then seeing it thrown right back in his face.

Pleasing doesn't do it justice.
Don’t know much about rugby but is Jones their equivalent of McInnes? (Asking for a friend)

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/147018697_711658212884533_5335432687031096353_n.jp g?_nc_cat=103&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=f-bhbidSQH4AX8cUnqq&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=eaf6d5b5f74f4033cd00f39c82c90774&oe=60463AA9

[Pretty Boy]

Out of interest was there a reason so many players on each team didn't take a knee pre match? I think only 5 or 6 Scotland players did.

I'm not judging anyone, just curious as to whether it was a collective decision. It seems to have been universally accepted by football players and I had assumed rugby would have been similar.

[McD]

Days like today make watching Scotland rugby worthwhile. So many frustrations in the past but that was immense.
The English must be shell shocked


:agree:

scotland have so many talented players, it’s great to see them all bringing that performance together, and also getting their just rewards


had that been an All Blacks/Australia/South Africa team instead of Scotland, it would be getting feted around the world as an ominous performance from a team looking to do damage at the World Cup - we should be taking this performance as an indicator that we can do that if we can nail the consistency

[Sir David Gray]

Out of interest was there a reason so many players on each team didn't take a knee pre match? I think only 5 or 6 Scotland players did.

I'm not judging anyone, just curious as to whether it was a collective decision. It seems to have been universally accepted by football players and I had assumed rugby would have been similar.

Billy Vunipola's take on things;

"A similar situation happened with the Black Lives Matter movement last week when we were asked if we want to take a knee or not.

"What I saw in terms of that movement was not aligned with what I believe in. They were burning churches and Bibles. I can't support that.

"Even though I am a person of colour, I'm still more a person of, I guess, Jesus."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportbible.com/other/news-rugby-england-and-scotland-six-nations-players-divided-over-taking-the-knee-20210206.amp.html

[Sylar]

Elated. Im still high as a kite. It wasn’t a sparkling offensive performance (should have been more clinical) but defensively was incredible. Hope we can build on that next week against Wales.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Elated. Im still high as a kite. It wasn’t a sparkling offensive performance (should have been more clinical) but defensively was incredible. Hope we can build on that next week against Wales.

The defence was magnificent, I'm no expert but, can't recall Scotland putting up a defensive effort of such gargantuan proportions before. (Pity I knew the outcome before settling down to watch it).

[Peevemor]

I'm not a huge follower of rugby and (like a lot of people I suspect) only really watch the 6 nations and world cup matches - and that's when I remember.

However, I can't ever remember seeing England being dominated/tamed like that, especially at Twickenham.

[cabbageandribs1875]

what a chance blown right at the end for ireland, penalty on 84 mins obviously goes for touch and missed completely, terrible kick, still though a brave challenge considering they only had 14 players for an hour, first red card for an irish player in the six nations

FT wales 21 ireland 16

[weecounty hibby]

There was only one winner when Ireland were down to 14 for 65 minutes. Having played with a man short a few times it is a nightmare and as the game goes on you are totally knackered. Having watched Wales though I think we will be too good for them next week and I thought that way before our performance yesterday

[G B Young]

Out of interest was there a reason so many players on each team didn't take a knee pre match? I think only 5 or 6 Scotland players did.

I'm not judging anyone, just curious as to whether it was a collective decision. It seems to have been universally accepted by football players and I had assumed rugby would have been similar.

I gather that there was a collective agreement prior to the autumn internationals that players wouldn't take the knee and that support for BLM would be shown by the rugby authorities in other ways eg there was an anti-racism message broadcast on TV screens as players lined up for the national anthems. I think it was assumed this would continue for the Six Nations (the same pre-match message appeared on screens) and while none of the Irish, Welsh, French or Italian players took the knee several of the England players for some reason decided to do so. A couple of the Scotland players noticed this and did likewise.

[G B Young]

There was only one winner when Ireland were down to 14 for 65 minutes. Having played with a man short a few times it is a nightmare and as the game goes on you are totally knackered. Having watched Wales though I think we will be too good for them next week and I thought that way before our performance yesterday

If we can play as cohesively as we did on Saturday then yes I reckon we have a great chance of beating Wales, but it would be fairly typical of Scotland to fall short after such a promising display. It's also a big ask in international rugby, even in the pro era, for players to get back to that level just a week after a game as intense as Saturday's.

[nellio]

Scotland V Wales tomorrow. First time I've missed this fixture at Murrayfield. I'm Welsh but I live here, work here got married here and my wife and Son are Scottish so even if we lose (which I think we will) I'd rather lose to no one else.

I shouted so loudly when you beat England last week I woke my boy up who was asleep in the other room. If (when) you beat us I will be right behind you for a grand slam. Mon the Scots.

[Sylar]

Scotland V Wales tomorrow. First time I've missed this fixture at Murrayfield. I'm Welsh but I live here, work here got married here and my wife and Son are Scottish so even if we lose (which I think we will) I'd rather lose to no one else.

I shouted so loudly when you beat England last week I woke my boy up who was asleep in the other room. If (when) you beat us I will be right behind you for a grand slam. Mon the Scots.

I don't think there's any 'when' about it - this will be a tough game and you looked really resilient last week against Ireland. The loss of Ritchie and Redpath is unfortunate, but to bring in quality like Blade and Darcy is a good sign for us - Darcy and Duhan on opposite wings is great to have, especially with North missing out.

Like you, I'll miss this game not being in person. In my personal opinion, there's no finer atmosphere in Edinburgh than when the Welsh are in town - I absolutely love them and many a great night has been had afterward with them in pubs across the Toon.

[CloudSquall]

Try for Italy vs England two minutes in :faf:

Won't last but absolute pleasing.

[hibsbollah]

Try for Italy vs England two minutes in :faf:

Won't last but absolute pleasing.

poor old Italy though. You have to wonder how they keep going, getting pumped by everyone every year.

[hibsbollah]

Gruesome injury, thankfully not too many replays.

[Pretty Boy]

Ouch!

That looked absolutely awful. When you are hoping it's 'only' an ACL you know it's bad.

[CloudSquall]

poor old Italy though. You have to wonder how they keep going, getting pumped by everyone every year.


I think they have to start considering a play-off or straight promotion and relegation, Italy just aren't developing and are being left behind.

[Pretty Boy]

I think they have to start considering a play-off or straight promotion and relegation, Italy just aren't developing and are being left behind.

How popular is rugby in Italy?

It's obviously the dominant sport in Wales, it's a large minority sport in Ireland, is huge in the south of France in particular, in terms of attendance it's behind only the top 2 football leagues in England and there are large rugby strongholds across Scotland.

Is there a desire to really invest in and improve rugby in Italy?

[Sylar]

I feel for Willis. Very promising young player and it was a horrible tackle.

[hibsbollah]

I honestly don’t understand rugby :greengrin I can’t see why they those got three consecutive pens. Offside? Preventing release?

[CropleyWasGod]

Stevenson-esque ball there :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

brilliant try scotland

[Pretty Boy]

Do rugby players get away with talking back to refs more these days? I've noticed 2 or 3 Welsh players give a bit of a mouthful.

It's obviously miles apart from football but it's something I never noticed before.

[Pretty Boy]

To this untrained eye Scotland look bloody brilliant.

[cabbageandribs1875]

oh yes mr hibs :)

[cabbageandribs1875]

jeezo our line-out needs some working on


Hogg bobbing and weaving

[cabbageandribs1875]

yet another mistake from replacement Graham leads to the welsh getting in for a try


replace him at HT :)

[hibsbollah]

To this untrained eye Scotland look bloody brilliant.

Im quite ignorant, but we seem to play expansive fun rugby these days compared to when I watched them in previous years, very fast and getting the backs involved.

[cabbageandribs1875]

gary graham again giving away a penalty, he's not having a great game



missed chances yet again at the welsh try line and up we come the other end for a welsh try, those mistakes hurting us

[easty]

Never a red card

[G B Young]

Im quite ignorant, but we seem to play expansive fun rugby these days compared to when I watched them in previous years, very fast and getting the backs involved.

We're a lot easier on the eye than we were a few years back, but we've played in a pretty pacey, entertaining way for a while now without quite carrying the extra edge required for tangible success. I'm a bit surprised Townsend is still coach, but last week's win at Twickenham was a massive plus point for him.

Until the last few minutes it looked like we were going to follow up with another impressive win but looks like we might be about to implode!

[cabbageandribs1875]

'kin Fagerson, wales should win this now i reckon

[CloudSquall]

Infuriating, should have been out of sight, an F up while camped in their half and Wales go up the other end and score, and now we're down to 10.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Infuriating, should have been out of sight, an F up and Wales go up the other end and score, and now we're down to 10.



or 14

[Jones28]

Can see wales running away with this now. Very very harsh red card.

[CloudSquall]

or 14

Habit got the better of me :greengrin

[G B Young]

****. Hard to see us winning from here.

[cabbageandribs1875]

that's game, self-inflicted, as usual total lack of imagination when up right on the opponents try line but we've lacked that imagination for decades

[hibsbollah]

Has anyone checked out the zit on the refs nose? Massive and a hint of yellow there too.

[Jones28]

Love the ambition from Scotland here. Brilliant stuff.

[cabbageandribs1875]

lol one of those times we will gain points before having to take the advantage

[CloudSquall]

that's game, self-inflicted, as usual total lack of imagination when up right on the opponents try line but we've lacked that imagination for decades

This is what annoys me the most with Scotland, a world class performance followed up by a return to the same old same old.

[GlesgaeHibby]

Get in there Hogg

[Jones28]

Hoggy ya beauty!!

[cabbageandribs1875]

one stuart hogg
there's only one stuart hogg

[cabbageandribs1875]

This is what annoys me the most with Scotland, a world class performance followed up by a return to the same old same old.


it's in our blood




almost

[cabbageandribs1875]

what a kick from finn russell

[Magpie]

That’s a beautiful try

[Jones28]

****

[cabbageandribs1875]

easy try wales

[hibsbollah]

What a finish this is

[Jones28]

What a clearing kick that was.

[cabbageandribs1875]

price kicks possession away and scotland are back 60 metres, poor stuff price

[cabbageandribs1875]

so deflating and so scotland after winning at twickenham



i don't think the welsh will be winning the six nations though

[Mr Grieves]

Some game, it was always going to be an uphill struggle after a harsh red card.

[Sylar]

Absolutely ****ed by Wayne Barnes. Disgusting officiating.

He should be removed from international test rugby: he’s absolutely shocking.

[cabbageandribs1875]

two welsh wins


two welsh wins against teams down to 14 players

[hibsbollah]

Stupid sport at the end of the day. Way too much power to arbitrary refereeing decisions.

[weecounty hibby]

Definite red card nowadays. Contact to the head is a red card. Players should know better, it is the rules. As someone who played through the 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, and stopped playing in 2018 after 37 years and have seen law changes year after year players need to adapt. It is their ****ing job. Fagerson cost us that game make no mistake.

[Jones28]

Definite red card nowadays. Contact to the head is a red card. Players should know better, it is the rules. As someone who played through the 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, and stopped playing in 2018 after 37 years and have seen law changes year after year players need to adapt. It is their ****ing job. Fagerson cost us that game make no mistake.

Not harsh?

[cabbageandribs1875]

away to le french next= pas de points
home to ireland= probably nae points
home to italy= probably points


end of the day we will finish the table in our pretty regular position after such a promising start, that was a real sickener today

[Chorley Hibee]

Scotland's game management still leaves a lot to be desired.

Need to put points on the board instead of repeatedly kicking for touch.

[weecounty hibby]

Not harsh?

Nope. It was reckless, he did hit the head. Straight red. Feel a wee but for him as it wasn't as bad a O'Mahony last week. But you start with the red and check to see if there are mitigating circumstances. The face he ran from distance and made no attempt to wrap his arms means red card. Lost the game because of it

[McD]

Nope. It was reckless, he did hit the head. Straight red. Feel a wee but for him as it wasn't as bad a O'Mahony last week. But you start with the red and check to see if there are mitigating circumstances. The face he ran from distance and made no attempt to wrap his arms means red card. Lost the game because of it


:agree:

players not wrapping the arms these days are inviting a red card, coupled with contact to the head is doubling down on that.

the distance he came from he had time to adjust where he was making contact, even with Hogg pulling the guy away

[JimBHibees]

Absolutely ****ed by Wayne Barnes. Disgusting officiating.

He should be removed from international test rugby: he’s absolutely shocking.

Personally thought it was harsh. Pitch ref had the perfect view and gave nothing. Didn't seem clear enough for a red for me. Game changing decision with little or no contact with head and player not in any way injured. On that basis there will be three or four reds a game. Something not right also about English officials making a decision which directly favours their country imo.

[Magpie]

two welsh wins


two welsh wins against teams down to 14 players

France with another win today too. I don’t think Wales will beat England but if they do it could well be Wales v France for the grand slam last game of the tournament.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

France with another win today too. I don’t think Wales will beat England but if they do it could well be Wales v France for the grand slam last game of the tournament.

I think England will pump Wales.

[HibernianJK]

Wales have beaten 2 teams with 14 mean by a combined 6 points. I don’t think they’re a shot to win it .

[Dalianwanda]

Wales have beaten 2 teams with 14 mean by a combined 6 points. I don’t think they’re a shot to win it .

Yeah I dont think wales will beat either England or France...Im still hopeful Scotland can pull off a shock against France, its gonna be some game with the philosophy of both teams. I think we could win our last 3 matches if we screw the nut re infringements. I dont think Ireland are any great shakes under the new management team who I think was a weird appointment in the first place (like England, some great players but the system they are using isnt the best).