Rugby

[G B Young]

Yeah I dont think wales will beat either England or France...Im still hopeful Scotland can pull off a shock against France, its gonna be some game with the philosophy of both teams. I think we could win our last 3 matches if we screw the nut re infringements. I dont think Ireland are any great shakes under the new management team who I think was a weird appointment in the first place (like England, some great players but the system they are using isnt the best).

Losing to Wales has scuppered our hopes IMHO. It was so important we followed up the Twickenham win with another victory but we blew it.

[JimBHibees]

Yeah I dont think wales will beat either England or France...Im still hopeful Scotland can pull off a shock against France, its gonna be some game with the philosophy of both teams. I think we could win our last 3 matches if we screw the nut re infringements. I dont think Ireland are any great shakes under the new management team who I think was a weird appointment in the first place (like England, some great players but the system they are using isnt the best).

Think Scotland have a decent chance of beating France who imo weren't great in Dublin.

[Magpie]

I think England will pump Wales.

I do too. Wales have turned it on against them when it matters in the past though. Josh Adams is back too I believe?

[Sylar]

Fagerson suspended for the remaining games of the Six Nations (4 week ban). A harsher penalty than Patrick O'Mahoney, who only got a 3 week ban.

The system is quite broken!

[Just_Jimmy]

Fagerson suspended for the remaining games of the Six Nations (4 week ban). A harsher penalty than Patrick O'Mahoney, who only got a 3 week ban.

The system is quite broken!two points;

1. I don't think it was even a red, a yellow at best. it ruined the game for us.
2. we're luckily blessed with great props to cover.

we've a chance against France and Ireland and if we can do it I think everyone can beat everyone this year... we have a chance.

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[weecounty hibby]

two points;

1. I don't think it was even a red, a yellow at best. it ruined the game for us.
2. we're luckily blessed with great props to cover.

we've a chance against France and Ireland and if we can do it I think everyone can beat everyone this year... we have a chance.

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It was a red. Absolutely no doubt and I can't believe folk are still saying otherwise. Its a shocker that O'Mahony got a lesser ban though
You're right about the people we have some pretty decent ones at the moment but Fagerson is a loss

[DaveF]

Seen a clip tonight re the end of the Exeter game where the guy had a kick to win it but after starting his move, then took so long to kick the bloody ball that the opposition ran and booted it into touch to win the game.

All a bit odd 😂

[Sylar]

Sunday's game increasingly looks like it's in doubt as cases amongst the French side are spiralling.

28-0 win, please :greengrin (most likely, it'll be rearranged for the following week when there's no fixtures).

[Sylar]

Decision due on Wednesday night apparently. Moving it to next week would result in punishing Scotland, as none of the players can readily be released on a rest week from their clubs, meaning we could potentially be missing most of our non-Pro 14 players.

France need to suck it up and call in some of their youth players (who are still bloody brilliant, as we seen against England in the Autumn Nations), or forfeit the tie IMO. Moving it punishes the wrong team.

[JimBHibees]

Decision due on Wednesday night apparently. Moving it to next week would result in punishing Scotland, as none of the players can readily be released on a rest week from their clubs, meaning we could potentially be missing most of our non-Pro 14 players.

France need to suck it up and call in some of their youth players (who are still bloody brilliant, as we seen against England in the Autumn Nations), or forfeit the tie IMO. Moving it punishes the wrong team.

Agree don't think they should be allowed to not play the game. They have a huge talent pool to pick from. Anything which results in Scotland having a weaker team would be so unfair

[Jones28]

Scotland game off.

We will now replay the match with 10 players missing rather than France have 10 + players missing.

Disgraceful if the points plus a bp aren’t awarded to Scotland.

[Sylar]

Scotland game off.

We will now replay the match with 10 players missing rather than France have 10 + players missing.

Disgraceful if the points plus a bp aren’t awarded to Scotland.

Have they confirmed it'll be next weekend? I'd like to hope they'd be taking steps to ensure our full team is available, otherwise I'd support Scotland refusing to turn up.

We can't be punished for France's violations.

[weecounty hibby]

Have they confirmed it'll be next weekend? I'd like to hope they'd be taking steps to ensure our full team is available, otherwise I'd support Scotland refusing to turn up.

We can't be punished for France's violations.

They've only said that it will bebplanned at a later date.

[nellio]

Someone in the French camp clearly breached the protocols. How else would the virus have gotten into the camp.

They should be forfeiting the game and giving Scotland the win.

[weecounty hibby]

Someone in the French camp clearly breached the protocols. How else would the virus have gotten into the camp.

They should be forfeiting the game and giving Scotland the win.
Rumours en francaise are that it is Galthie that has been the guilty party. Not sure how true that is as it seems the FFR are blaming a physio

[Sylar]

Ah, match-day. No Scotland this weekend but looking forward to Edinburgh later on today, followed by Wales vs England!

[Magpie]

I do too. Wales have turned it on against them when it matters in the past though. Josh Adams is back too I believe?

Nice try by Wales. Josh Adams back.

[Mr Grieves]

Wow, England have been done there.

[Fritz]

That’s one of the worst decisions I’ve ever seen!!!

[Mr Grieves]

That’s one of the worst decisions I’ve ever seen!!!

The ref has had a shocker. I would be raging if that had happened against Scotland.

[Magpie]

Wales beat England with a bonus point to win the triple crown. Should beat Italy so it’s a trip to France to win another Grand Slam. A nation absolutely brilliant at Rugby.

[weecounty hibby]

The luckiest team in world rugby. Narrow wins against two teams down to 14 men and then a horrific decision for their 2nd try. Even the 1st is questionable. He had asked Farrell to have a word with his players after another penalty and then while he was still doing that he started play. I would have been raging with both to be honest

[JimBHibees]

The luckiest team in world rugby. Narrow wins against two teams down to 14 men and then a horrific decision for their 2nd try. Even the 1st is questionable. He had asked Farrell to have a word with his players after another penalty and then while he was still doing that he started play. I would have been raging with both to be honest

Thought the first try decision was absolutely incredible should have been chalked off. Second one thought it looked like a knock on however commentator seemed to be saying technically the right decision which seemed to quieten Moore and Davies so dont really know to be honest.

[Mr Grieves]

Thought the first try decision was absolutely incredible should have been chalked off. Second one thought it looked like a knock on however commentator seemed to be saying technically the right decision which seemed to quieten Moore and Davies so dont really know to be honest.

Brian Moore is a qualified ref so I'd be surprised if he got that wrong. I think it was guscott that said it was technically correct but it looked like a knock on to my untrained eye and the reaction of the Welsh player said a lot. Wales are surely going to win the whole thing, they've been so jammy.

[Sergio sledge]

The luckiest team in world rugby. Narrow wins against two teams down to 14 men and then a horrific decision for their 2nd try. Even the 1st is questionable. He had asked Farrell to have a word with his players after another penalty and then while he was still doing that he started play. I would have been raging with both to be honest

The 2nd decision was correct, the rule is that the ball has to go forward off your hand or arm AND hit the ground or an opponent before you regain control. Because it hit his leg and then his foot before hitting the ground or opposition then it isn't a knock on as it came off his feet so counts as a kick.

I don't understand the big fuss about this one to be honest, losing control of the ball forward on its own is not enough to count as a knock on, it has to hit the ground or opposition player as well and he clearly got his foot on it first.

The first try decision was worse and really harsh on England IMHO.

[weecounty hibby]

The 2nd decision was correct, the rule is that the ball has to go forward off your hand or arm AND hit the ground or an opponent before you regain control. Because it hit his leg and then his foot before hitting the ground or opposition then it isn't a knock on as it came off his feet so counts as a kick.

I don't understand the big fuss about this one to be honest, losing control of the ball forward on its own is not enough to count as a knock on, it has to hit the ground or opposition player as well and he clearly got his foot on it first.

The first try decision was worse and really harsh on England IMHO.

Sorry, not having that. Its a knock on. He tried to catch it, dropped it and luckily hit his calf. He at no point had control of the ball. Everyone, and I mean everyone who I know who has played the game thinks that is a knock on. Reece-Zammit thought it was a knock on. All the commentators thought it was a knock on.
Im a qualified referee and level 3 ukcc coach and if that happened in a game I would be awarding a scrum to the opposition every time

[Fritz]

Sorry, not having that. Its a knock on. He tried to catch it, dropped it and luckily hit his calf. He at no point had control of the ball. Everyone, and I mean everyone who I know who has played the game thinks that is a knock on. Reece-Zammit thought it was a knock on. All the commentators thought it was a knock on.
Im a qualified referee and level 3 ukcc coach and if that happened in a game I would be awarding a scrum to the opposition every time

That’s my take on it too. How many times have we seen someone lose control of the ball and it goes forward down on to their thigh/knee and then on to the ground. Knock on every time. The wording of the rule isn’t the best though I have to admit.

[JeMeSouviens]

Sorry, not having that. Its a knock on. He tried to catch it, dropped it and luckily hit his calf. He at no point had control of the ball. Everyone, and I mean everyone who I know who has played the game thinks that is a knock on. Reece-Zammit thought it was a knock on. All the commentators thought it was a knock on.
Im a qualified referee and level 3 ukcc coach and if that happened in a game I would be awarding a scrum to the opposition every time

Your opinion is validated by world rugby head of refs, Joël Jutge.


Jutge said: “The ball is not controlled by the wing and falls on his thigh. The situation became confused because at the time there was no notion of loss of control. The reality is that if he had whistled for a knock-on, no one would have found fault with him. This is one of the perverse effects of the video system, looking too much [at an incident] in microscopic detail. There is a tendency to refer to the TMO too often when one can make the call on the pitch and stick with it.”

[Sergio sledge]

Sorry, not having that. Its a knock on. He tried to catch it, dropped it and luckily hit his calf. He at no point had control of the ball. Everyone, and I mean everyone who I know who has played the game thinks that is a knock on. Reece-Zammit thought it was a knock on. All the commentators thought it was a knock on.
Im a qualified referee and level 3 ukcc coach and if that happened in a game I would be awarding a scrum to the opposition every time

It seems I'm in the minority on this one, happy to take a referees word for it!

My view of this might be clouded by the fact that I used to play on the wing and on the (very rare :greengrin) occurrences that I did knock the ball on I would always do my best to try to get my foot/leg on the ball before it hit the ground to try to prevent it being a knock on.

I don't remember loss of control being a thing when I played though is it new?

[nellio]

I thought he knocked it on. Can't believe the ref gave it! Nigel Owens was on scrum V saying it was def a knock on so i'm going with big Nige on that one!

Thought the first try was a bit harsh on them as well to be honest but we went on to put more and more pressure on them and they capitulated. Penalties left right and centre due to the pressure we were putting on them. Even if you take off the 2 dodgy tries we would have won anyway.

We should beat Italy so on to Paris for (another) go at a slam.

[DaveF]

For those that like the league variety, the NRL kicks off Thursday morning at 9.05am with Melbourne v South Sydney

[Sylar]

Currently watching the Sydney vs Manly game - oh to see spectators back in our arenas again like they are over there.

Big day in the Six Nations today. Wales should obviously deal with Italy, and a massive match between England and France. Strange going into a game hoping for an English win...(or more to the point, French loss).

[Sylar]

Wales absolutely dominating Italy - a bonus point after half an hour and they finish the first half without conceding. Italy unable to get moving at all.

Welsh looking good for the Grand Slam!

[Jones28]

This game is superb.

[cabbageandribs1875]

the french got what they deserved, stopped playing after 50 mins

i put £12 on england not long after france went ahead 20-13, returned £26 :)

[Lancs Harp]

England 23 France 20 a really good game that.

[cabbageandribs1875]

our record against ireland from 2000 is dreadful

P -27

W-6
L- 21


last 10 games we've won just once, i don't expect us to improve on that tomorrow


20 years up to 2000

P-21
W -15
L -5
D -1

[Sylar]

I'm not optimistic for us tomorrow.

Still, manage a win against them, a win against Italy and upset France in Paris (the most unlikely of the 3), coupled with a French win vs Wales next weekend and we might still have a chance!

I actually really fancy Wales to get the GS after today. They took their foot off the pedal in the second half but were very comfortable in defense. Young Rees-Zammit is absolutely incredible.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

England 23 France 20 a really good game that.

Just finished watching it after a day of watching football, fantastic viewing.

[Magpie]

Wales absolutely dominating Italy - a bonus point after half an hour and they finish the first half without conceding. Italy unable to get moving at all.

Welsh looking good for the Grand Slam!

I’m sure a Welsh grand slam would see them match England’s record of 13!

[Mr Grieves]

Scotland sleeping here, terrible start

[Sylar]

We’re going to get blown away if we keep giving away stupid penalties again!

The long break has clearly not benefited us.

[Jim44]

Scotland very poor. Getting bad vibes that Ireland will walk this.

[bringbackbenny]

Scottish lineouts not too good today

[CloudSquall]

Ireland vs Scotland is like Aberdeen vs Hibs, no matter how guff they are we (normally) can't buy a win against them.

[Scorrie]

How many stupid penalties do Scotland give away. Honestly some of the players are playing like they don’t know the rules

[hibsbollah]

F me, the ref gives Scotland a penalty there, it’s a miracle.

Russell kicks it out on the full. Says it all.

[Scorrie]

Sometimes we just seem to do the basics right. My old rugby teacher at school would be going mental

[Sylar]

We’re our own worst enemy a lot of the time (lineouts, penalties today), but Ireland were gifted a try that clearly looked held up.

Our ineptitude as a national rugby team is truly impressive. Smaller nations than us frequently find success but we continue to excel at failing.

Would like to see Townsend move on. I was never a fan and despite all of the “promise”, he can’t seem to get us to that elite level. Shake up and build toward the 2023 World Cup.

[cabbageandribs1875]

awk we're back in our usual league position...2nd bottom, thank goodness for the Italians

[weecounty hibby]

****ing amateurish. Some of those mistakes would not be tolerated at the level I played at for years. Lineout was a total disgrace. Some of the penalties given away are plain stuoid. Some of the handling errors were shocking

[Scorrie]

****ing amateurish. Some of those mistakes would not be tolerated at the level I played at for years. Lineout was a total disgrace. Some of the penalties given away are plain stuoid. Some of the handling errors were shocking

Spot on. They’re more interested in being gym bunnies rather than do the basics right

[Frazerbob]

Who else is in the queue for World Cup tickets?

[CropleyWasGod]

Who else is in the queue for World Cup tickets?

Where is it?

(the queue, that is, before the smartarses get in...:greengrin)

[Frazerbob]

Where is it?

(the queue, that is, before the smartarses get in...:greengrin)

www.Tickets.rugbyworldcup.com

You had to register by the weekend tho. Just ticket packages on sale today, individual match tickets go in sale next year.

[CropleyWasGod]

www.Tickets.rugbyworldcup.com

You had to register by the weekend tho. Just ticket packages on sale today, individual match tickers go in sake next year.

Ta :aok:

[weecounty hibby]

Who else is in the queue for World Cup tickets?

Me, waiting on the email to tell me it's my turn

[Frazerbob]

Boom, 6 Scotland passes in the bag. €140 for 4 games is superb.

[weecounty hibby]

Boom, 6 Scotland passes in the bag. €140 for 4 games is superb.
I'm still queuing!! It is good value and that's why I signed up for the early chance for tickets

[JimBHibees]

Scottish lineouts not too good today

Did we win one all game? Absolutely blew the opportunity when taking the lead just before half time and then horrific to lose a penalty from our possession at 24 all. Sums up Russell with that penalty to the corner too much trying to be the smart erse at times. Gatland probably put a pen through his name at that point missed a very kickable penalty also. Appreciate Ireland will have analysed our lineout plays but dear oh dear that was horrific how poor we were gifted possession over and over.

[DaveF]

Gavin Henson makes his rugby league debut for Llanelli Raiders against Widnes this weekend at age 39. This was a team that were gubbed a record 144-0 a few years ago but seem to have their arse in gear and have also signed Rangi Chase (34) as they try to climb the league's and make a dent into solid Union Territory.

[heretoday]

Great match in Dublin. Fine try by Earls and the Greens take the lead.

[cabbageandribs1875]

so it's england that finish 2nd bottom then :greengrin pleased for eddie jones




Scotland hand the Italians their heaviest defeat this season, i think this must be their worst season with continuous heavy defeats

lost France 10-50
lost England 41-18
lost Ireland 10-48
lost Wales 7-48
lost Scotland 52-10


and i got £48 back on a Handicap Scotland-26 win :)


France v Wales up next should be a great game

[bawheid]

Wales have had significant refereeing decisions going their way throughout the Championship. Their last try looked held up to me.

They’re obviously a decent side but Scotland would have had them but for the red card. The refereeing in their game against England was terrible too.

[hibsbollah]

Wales have had significant refereeing decisions going their way throughout the Championship. Their last try looked held up to me.

They’re obviously a decent side but Scotland would have had them but for the red card. The refereeing in their game against England was terrible too.

:agree: the Tmo (is that what they call it?) clearly didn’t want to contradict the official, it looked held up to me.Johnathan Davies just can’t be objective, he’s the only rugby pundit who shows his national bias.

[bawheid]

:agree: the Tmo (is that what they call it?) clearly didn’t want to contradict the official, it looked held up to me.Johnathan Davies just can’t be objective, he’s the only rugby pundit who shows his national bias.

Davies shouldn’t be commentating on Wales matches. He’s the most biased sports commentator I’ve ever heard, and that includes Jimmy Hill!

Brian Moore is excellent.

[Jones28]

Some superb stuff played by Scotland today, albeit against Italy it’s always great to see them play free flowing rugby.

[heretoday]

Furious stuff in Paris.

[Jones28]

Red card for France for an eye gouge. Think that’s title to wales

[bawheid]

Penalty after penalty being given away by Wales in the 22. There should be three in the bin by now.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i just knew the french would muck up there

they were the same at twickenham, you can always rely on a mistake somewhere from them, one last chance


oooeeeee

[bawheid]

I think that’s justice done.

[David_D]

Crazy game. After all the talk of the Welsh discipline being key. It’s surely there lack of discipline at the end that cost them.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i agree with that commentator dude, the french should have lost the points for the Covid call-off against Scotland:agree:






and another £29 for both sides scoring at least one try in each half


tiz all good from the rugby today :)

[JimBHibees]

Wales have had significant refereeing decisions going their way throughout the Championship. Their last try looked held up to me.

They’re obviously a decent side but Scotland would have had them but for the red card. The refereeing in their game against England was terrible too.

Yep don't get how the welsh try was given. Typical France to start playing better when a man short. So many decisions think France deserved to win.

[bawheid]

Inverdale going on about “grand larceny” now. Ridiculous!

[cabbageandribs1875]

anything but Larceny Mr TV Dude

[heretoday]

Wales lost some discipline towards the end which was strange for them. It's up to the Scots to deny France next Friday. I hope we can field a full squad.

I must say I couldn't take my eyes off the rugby today. It's a great sport when it's played at the top level. For such a wild, loose game it all comes down to inches in the end!

[JimBHibees]

Inverdale going on about “grand larceny” now. Ridiculous!

Yep didn't understand that comment.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i didn't realise France are still 5 points behind Wales, France need to beat Scotland by at least 21 points to win it on points difference or a four try bonus point, i think they will possibly do the four try bonus point way, i don't think they will beat Scotland by 21 points though


like ties against ireland our record against france is very poor the last 30 games

w -7
L -23


i can remember back in the 80's/90's it was Scotland/France/Scotland/France etc etc


i see the WRU have asked for the abuse against their players to stop, they're still in with a good shout of winning it, i must admit to thinking for a long time now the Welsh can be a tad of the moaning minnie nature if losing :)

[hibbysam]

i didn't realise France are still 5 points behind Wales, France need to beat Scotland by at least 21 points to win it on points difference or a four try bonus point, i think they will possibly do the four try bonus point way, i don't think they will beat Scotland by 21 points though


like ties against ireland our record against france is very poor the last 30 games

w -7
L -23


i can remember back in the 80's/90's it was Scotland/France/Scotland/France etc etc


i see the WRU have asked for the abuse against their players to stop, they're still in with a good shout of winning it, i must admit to thinking for a long time now the Welsh can be a tad of the moaning minnie nature if losing :)

They surely need a bonus point and a 21 point win? If they don’t get 4 tries but win by 21 they’ll finish 1 point behind Wales.

[cabbageandribs1875]

They surely need a bonus point and a 21 point win? If they don’t get 4 tries but win by 21 they’ll finish 1 point behind Wales.


ah, from the beeb sport page, i misread i thought they meant OR at least 21 points


If France are to deny Wales the Six Nations title, they must beat Scotland with a four-try bonus point and by at least 21 points to take it on points difference

[weecounty hibby]

Saturday was a great day of rugby. Wales luck eventually ran out, ironically when they were playing their best rugby if the championship. France are so hot and cold its unreal. Ireland looked very strong against England. England have gone backwards under Jones and big battering rams and kick kick kick are holding them back. Scotland looked great against Italy but Italy are very poor at the moment.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Six Nations: France v Scotland


Date: Friday 26 March Kick-off: 20:00 GMT Venue: Stade de France, Paris


Coverage: Watch on BBC One, BBC iPlayer and online from 19:30 GMT; listen on BBC Radio 5 Live, BBC Sounds and BBC Radio Scotland; live text and highlights on the BBC Sport website and app.


Sean Maitland is a surprise absentee from Gregor Townsend's 29-man squad for Scotland's final Six Nations game against France in Paris on Friday.
While the Saracens player misses out, fellow back Adam Hastings is available after a three-match suspension. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/56283475)

Glasgow Warriors team-mate Fraser Brown does not make the squad despite the hooker returning from injury for his club against Dragons on Sunday. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/56456082)
Exeter Chiefs lock Jonny Gray misses out again through injury.

[Sylar]

Edinburgh hammered again last night. Been a thoroughly depressing season, and any hope of Europe next season have now been extinguished.

[DaveF]

Rabbits v Roosters derby just now in the Aussie RL.

[Sylar]

There's not really much on the line for us tonight obviously, but I find myself nervous this morning.

It would be fantastic to beat them on their own patch and potentially finish second (though we need to win by 8 points for that).

I'd much rather Wales won the Six Nations, so I hope we can do them a favour and make that happen!

[Frazerbob]

There's not really much on the line for us tonight obviously, but I find myself nervous this morning.

It would be fantastic to beat them on their own patch and potentially finish second (though we need to win by 8 points for that).

I'd much rather Wales won the Six Nations, so I hope we can do them a favour and make that happen!

8 point victory to finish 2nd for the first time since 5 became 6. I hope that’s a big incentive.

[Jones28]

Discipline will be our undoing again.

[cabbageandribs1875]

can't believe i've missed 35 mins of this, i was watching the rugby league :rolleyes: oh great timing tho for a french try :boo hoo:

[cabbageandribs1875]

the hoggmeister visits the sin bin

[Sylar]

I really wish they’d stop allocating English referees to us. Some pish decisions from Wayne Barnes again!

[Just_Jimmy]

I really wish they’d stop allocating English referees to us. Some pish decisions from Wayne Barnes again!glad someone said it. he's been utterly pish

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[DaveF]

can't believe i've missed 35 mins of this, i was watching the rugby league :rolleyes: oh great timing tho for a french try :boo hoo:

Should have stick with the league. Leigh are ripping Wigan at the moment.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Should have stick with the league. Leigh are ripping Wigan at the moment.


that's the reason i browsed other channels in the first place, i've got a St Helens/Wigan double on :( i'm sure Wigan will still win








i think

[cabbageandribs1875]

how the heck did a scotland player not take that sigh

[Mr Grieves]

This ref doesnae mind a forward pass

[cabbageandribs1875]

i'm sure we probably have some time, but, has anyone ever saw Scotland actually take advantage of an advantage :confused:

[Just_Jimmy]

cherry picked [emoji23]

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[Lancs Harp]

I'm English as probably most know but supporting Hibs I dont have the usual English/Scottish petty hatred as many on both side of the border possess. Its a long story but after England Ive followed Scottish rugby for many years. Dont get me wrong I'm a proud Englishmen so the red rose comes first but i think Scotland have been brilliant this season, certainly not wooden spoon contenders with Italy anymore but playing a very positive and exciting role in this seasons 6 nations. Best Scotland team Ive seen for ages.

Love the Auld Enemy

[cabbageandribs1875]

it's a try get on with it

[cabbageandribs1875]

they'll be starting to sing in the valleys

[Jones28]

When we keep our heids we look sharp and measured in our play.

Class try from Cherry, had to be alive to that.

[cabbageandribs1875]

well that was easy enough :rolleyes:

[cabbageandribs1875]

that advantage was really poor from russell


russell mucks up another promising chance



and now probably a deserved red lord knows what that was about.........so poor

[JimBHibees]

Nonsense from Barnes absolute joke decision. Nothing violent about that at all

[Chorley Hibee]

I don't think I've ever seen a team shoot themselves in the foot as much as Scotland do.

They're much improved, but decision making and discipline still leave a lot to be desired.

[Lancs Harp]

I think Scotland have been brilliant tonight. Playing away in Paris against a team chasing the Championship. Well played Scotland.

[cabbageandribs1875]

lol they won't have to put his gear in the washing machine

[Jones28]

I ****ing hate “Barnesy” speaking french. So annoying!

[Jones28]

Line outs man

[cabbageandribs1875]

mon Scotland win this right at the end


another line-out **** up

[Scorrie]

Wish we’d kick our points. Really annoying this constantly kicking into the corners

[cabbageandribs1875]

Wish we’d kick our points. Really annoying this constantly kicking into the corners


just taking the 3 points brings the pressure right back on the side just scored, that's how so many sides quite often get points on the board quickly after conceding


one last chance

watson spills, we just couldn't make inroads with all the pressure down near their try line for the last 20 mins

[Chorley Hibee]

Wish we’d kick our points. Really annoying this constantly kicking into the corners

It's mental, our conversion rate in these situations is awful.

They should have won this game comfortably.

[Sir David Gray]

Well done Scotland I don't do rugby but that was exciting!

[SteveHFC]

:hyper

[cabbageandribs1875]

yasssssssssss :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Magpie]

Wales champions!

[Jones28]

Yeeeeeeeess!!!!!!

[cabbageandribs1875]

twickers and paris in the same season woop woop

[Lancs Harp]

Totally epic.

Ally south of the border. Scotland were brilliant tonight against a team playing for everything.

[Mr Grieves]

Brilliant stuff :thumbsup:

[Chorley Hibee]

Wow!

You can't say Scotland aren't entertaining.

[marinello59]

I don’t really get Rugby but that was great to watch. Well done Scotland.

[David_D]

That was superb.

[cabbageandribs1875]

and well done gregor townsend

[Chorley Hibee]

Scotland should conceivably be celebrating a Grand Slam tonight, especially when you look back at those tight defeats to Wales and Ireland.

[bringbackbenny]

The French lad that failed to kick out to see the game 🤣

[MartinfaePorty]

That's been the best 6 Nations tournament I've seen for some time. Well done, Scotland!

[Lancs Harp]

The French lad that failed to kick out to see the game 🤣

Yes lets say a slight faux pas.:greengrin

[bringbackbenny]

Yes lets say a slight faux pas.:greengrin

He jambottled it for sure 🖕

[Peevemor]

Exceptional end to the match. Great play from Scotland.

I don't get much in the way of football banter here, so I'll definitely be milking this result.

[Scorrie]

Wish we’d kick our points. Really annoying this constantly kicking into the corners

What do I know eh?!’ What a result

[Hibee87]

Really enjoyed this 6 nation's. Best we've played for a while, are 2 losses had a score in it, close margins to actually achieving the grand slam. Don't think I've ever seen us run it so close in all the games bar Italy. Yet we still finish 4th 😂

[DaveF]

twickers and paris in the same season woop woop

And Wigan made your double too 😁

[cabbageandribs1875]

And Wigan made your double too ��




tbf they were both big favourites, i honestly don't know what to spend the £8 profit winnings on :( probably Israel to win against us on sunday, £8+ that is



i can usually depend on the rugby to claw back some losses on the footy

[weecounty hibby]

What an effort tonight. Superb. Incredible performance by the forwards. Lineout was secure thanks to Gilchrist coming in for the last two games, he makes a huge difference in there, totally controls it. Ritchie and Watson again magnificent in the back row. Really chuffed with that. Opportunity for a grand slam missed though!

[cabbageandribs1875]

it's good seeing Richie Gray part of the squad again in france, feels like he's been away for several years, maybe get some playing time in the games v Australia, South Africa and another in november, could do with a big strapping 6 ft 10" giant in that line-out

[Danderhall Hibs]

That's been the best 6 Nations tournament I've seen for some time. Well done, Scotland!

Really good tournament - 5 equally matched competitive sides.

[The Pointer]

Watson, Gilchrist and Cherry when he came on I thought were excellent. What a game and for a change Scotland backed themselves in terms of going for tries. Hastings comes on, prances about a bit then puts in that superb overhead pass for vdM to score, outstanding! Lovin'it!

[Danderhall Hibs]

Watson, Gilchrist and Cherry when he came on I thought were excellent. What a game and for a change Scotland backed themselves in terms of going for tries. Hastings comes on, prances about a bit then puts in that superb overhead pass for vdM to score, outstanding! Lovin'it!

Harris and Haining were also excellent.

Definitely a few in the mix for the Lions - Sutherland, Fagerson, Gray, Ritchie, Watson, Russell, Van set Merwe in addition to Hogg who’s a certainty.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

The French lad that failed to kick out to see the game 🤣

Wtf was he trying to achieve? Oh well. 😀

[CropleyWasGod]

Wtf was he trying to achieve? Oh well. 😀

Trying to keep the ball alive in a vain attempt to get the bonus point?

[Dalianwanda]

Harris and Haining were also excellent.

Definitely a few in the mix for the Lions - Sutherland, Fagerson, Gray, Ritchie, Watson, Russell, Van set Merwe in addition to Hogg who’s a certainty.

I would expect Watson to be a certainty along with Russell & Hogg...Hopefully Jamie Ritchie can get in..Van der Merwe might have shot himself in the foot with his missed tackle last night.

[rossevenil]

Trying to keep the ball alive in a vain attempt to get the bonus point?

Which from what I understand was worthless anyway as they didn`t have the 21 pt winning margin,wouldn`t change their position in table and they already had the win if he just puts into touch.
I know the French are renowned for their attacking flair but throwing away a win regardless is madness surely

[Greenbeard]

Anyone seen the tosh that Matt Williams has been coming out with about his days as Scotland coach? What a tosser he was. Worst coach in Scottish history. A total fake.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Heinekin champions cup, Racing 92 56 Edinburgh 3........that was a sore one



women's six nations

pool A England 52 Scotland 10
pool B France 53 Wales 0

[cabbageandribs1875]

Six Nations Rugby | 2022 Guinness Six Nations fixtures announced (https://www.sixnationsrugby.com/2021/04/28/2022-guinness-six-nations-fixtures-announced/)


will be interesting to see where we're at in 9+ months time and everyone vaccinated in time for opening weekend games

5th Feb

Ireland v Wales
Scotland v England

6th Feb

France v Italy

[DaveF]

Watching the NRL and it struck me how important the player / fan relationship is. Last few weeks post game you see the players taking selfies, signing autographs and generally taking time to make a real effort.

Contrast that with football...

[Sylar]

Didn't get near a Scotland season ticket this year - already have tickets for the 3 Autumn Tests, but was hoping to get a ST to see Scotland v England (a fixture I've never seen in rugby as I can never get tickets!).

Hopefully it'll be played in front of a full Murrayfield.

[cabbageandribs1875]

La Rochelle just beat Leinster 32-23 to set up an All French final v Toulouse at Twickenham on 22nd May


i've saw them a few times and they are a very good side, they would need to be to beat a strong Leinster

[mayo hibee]

Any thoughts on Scottish picks for the Lions this week? Should be more in there than usual with Townsend involved.

I'd say Hogg, Watson and Russell are near certainties to make the squad.

Sutherland (if he can get fit), Z Fagerson, Gray, Price, Harris and van der Merwe seem to be the others with a chance. Maybe three more from those six. That would be six in total which would be the most Scots in an initial Lions squad for a long time.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Leicester will face Montpellier in the challenge cup final, good season for French clubs though i'd fancy Leicester to win this one

[Danderhall Hibs]

Any thoughts on Scottish picks for the Lions this week? Should be more in there than usual with Townsend involved.

I'd say Hogg, Watson and Russell are near certainties to make the squad.

Sutherland (if he can get fit), Z Fagerson, Gray, Price, Harris and van der Merwe seem to be the others with a chance. Maybe three more from those six. That would be six in total which would be the most Scots in an initial Lions squad for a long time.

Hogg and Watson are certainties. Russell should be but I’m starting to worry he’s going to miss out. Agree with the others you’ve listed (not seen Price get much mention in the press, they’re even on about Danny Care now). An additional one could be Redpath.

[mayo hibee]

Eight Scots selected. Townsend's influence in the selection clearly showing there but, being realistic, I have nearly as much chance of starting a test match as three or four of them do.

However the selections will be welcome news for the permanently hard up SRU who will be paid in the region £50,000 for each selected player contracted to one of the Scottish pro teams - so around £250,000 in total.

[McD]

Eight Scots selected. Townsend's influence in the selection clearly showing there but, being realistic, I have nearly as much chance of starting a test match as three or four of them do.

However the selections will be welcome news for the permanently hard up SRU who will be paid in the region £50,000 for each selected player contracted to one of the Scottish pro teams - so around £250,000 in total.


I expected 4-6 maximum with gatland’s form, was pleasantly surprised to see 8 named

[cabbageandribs1875]

British and Irish Lions 2021 squad

Captain: Alun Wyn Jones (Wal)

Forwards: Tadhg Beirne (Ire), Jack Conan (Ire), Luke Cowan-Dickie (Eng), Tom Curry (Eng), Zander Fagerson (Sco), Taulupe Faletau (Wal), Tadhg Furlong (Ire), Jamie George (Eng), Iain Henderson (Ire), Jonny Hill (Eng), Maro Itoje (Eng), Wyn Jones (Wal), Courtney Lawes (Eng), Ken Owens (Wal), Andrew Porter (Ire), Sam Simmonds (Eng), Rory Sutherland (Sco), Justin Tipuric (Wal), Mako Vunipola (Eng), Hamish Watson (Sco).

Backs: Josh Adams (Wal), Bundee Aki (Ire), Dan Biggar (Wal), Elliot Daly (Eng), Gareth Davies (Wal), Owen Farrell (Eng), Chris Harris (Sco), Robbie Henshaw (Ire), Stuart Hogg (Sco), Conor Murray (Ire), Ali Price (Sco), Lewis Rees-Zammit (Wal), Finn Russell (Sco), Duhan van der Merwe (Sco), Anthony Watson (Eng), Liam Williams (Wal).

[weecounty hibby]

I thought that we had a chance of 7 and all of the ones I would have taken are there. Price is a surprise inclusion for me. The only other surprise is that Gatland did actually pick them.

[Sylar]

There's to be 16,500 fans allowed into Murrayfield for the British and Irish Lions game - the game is completely sold out, so around 50k fans are going to be left disappointed with just refunds rather than the opportunity to see the Lions in person in Scotland.

We're out of the tier system by then - why are there still such massive limits then? We're seeing full stadia in other parts of the world - no reason whatsoever this couldn't have been a much bigger crowd.

No U14s allowed into the game either :confused:

[JeMeSouviens]

There's to be 16,500 fans allowed into Murrayfield for the British and Irish Lions game - the game is completely sold out, so around 50k fans are going to be left disappointed with just refunds rather than the opportunity to see the Lions in person in Scotland.

We're out of the tier system by then - why are there still such massive limits then? We're seeing full stadia in other parts of the world - no reason whatsoever this couldn't have been a much bigger crowd.

No U14s allowed into the game either :confused:

Going to the plan, which is looking less likely by the day, we'd be in L0 then I think? So it's 2000 by default unless you make a case for more. Seems like the SRU, unlike the SFA, have actually got their finger out.

[heretoday]

Didn't get near a Scotland season ticket this year - already have tickets for the 3 Autumn Tests, but was hoping to get a ST to see Scotland v England (a fixture I've never seen in rugby as I can never get tickets!).

Hopefully it'll be played in front of a full Murrayfield.
My old dad and I used to attend the international matches in the sixties and seventies. What an atmosphere, especially when the Welsh were in town. Great days and great players like Andy Irvine.

[cabbageandribs1875]

good news :agree:

Six Nations: Organisers agree in principle to continued BBC & ITV deal - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/57201738)

The Six Nations is set to stay on free-to-air TV after organisers reached an agreement in principle with the BBC and ITV to continue sharing coverage of the men's and women's tournaments.
The four-year deal will run from 2022 to the end of the 2025 edition of the tournament, which has been free-to-air since 2003.

The BBC will broadcast all Scotland and Wales home Six Nations matches and the women's tournament. ITV will show all England, Ireland, Italy and France home games.
There will also be coverage of the men's under-20s championship on the BBC.

i'm still not quite clear from that article what the investor is getting out of it, This year private equity company CVC agreed a deal worth £365m with the Six Nations.

[DaveF]

No, no, no...what are the Aussies doing to their rugby league. Cracking down on head contact is fine but the amount of sin bin offences happening is quickly turning it into a game of touch rugby.

Boy has just been binned for being 0.0001 second late when charging down a kick.

A farce. Stop ruining the game.

[Sylar]

Anyone else heading to Murrayfield for the British and Irish Lions game against Japan tomorrow?

I initially had my tickets cancelled following the seating reduction, but was subsequently offered first dibs to buy tickets that had been returned by people who were successful and could no longer attend the game.

Really looking forward to seeing some live rugby in a stadium again for the first time in over 16 months!

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Some performance from France so far v The Aussies, 15-0 after 23 minutes.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

What a brilliant game, 23-21 for The Aussies in injury time.

[He's here!]

Anyone else heading to Murrayfield for the British and Irish Lions game against Japan tomorrow?

I initially had my tickets cancelled following the seating reduction, but was subsequently offered first dibs to buy tickets that had been returned by people who were successful and could no longer attend the game.

Really looking forward to seeing some live rugby in a stadium again for the first time in over 16 months!

Lions looking strong so far on tour. I was quite surprised it went ahead, but now that they're there hopefully they'll be able to play the Tests.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

South Africa's match off tomorrow.

[Sylar]

Lions looking strong so far on tour. I was quite surprised it went ahead, but now that they're there hopefully they'll be able to play the Tests.

I hope so too. Things not looking great though.

We've looked good, but haven't really played anyone yet. Still, great to see so many Scots performing so well and prominently. Duhan was out of this world last night and Hamish Watson has been incredible!

[He's here!]

I hope so too. Things not looking great though.

We've looked good, but haven't really played anyone yet. Still, great to see so many Scots performing so well and prominently. Duhan was out of this world last night and Hamish Watson has been incredible!

And also great to see so many Scots making themselves pretty much guaranteed picks for the tour thanks to the pool of talent we now have at our disposal. For a good while it was the case that one or two might just about squeeze into the squad if we were lucky.

[JimBHibees]

Some game for the Lions 31-52 up in 60 mins. Very open game almost a try every attack from both teams. Would imagine Springboks will like what they are seeing from the Lions in defence. Sharks down to 14 red card.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Magic entertainment. 26 each at ht, red card obviously ended the game as a contest. 31-71 ft

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

What a brilliant game, 23-21 for The Aussies in injury time.

Another cracking match today. 28-26 for France.

[The Pointer]

Going to be a much sterner test tonight against South Africa 'A'. Only two Scots involved, Harris and on the bench Fagerson. KO 7pm.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Going to be a much sterner test tonight against South Africa 'A'. Only two Scots involved, Harris and on the bench Fagerson. KO 7pm.

Looking forward to it, enjoying these Lions warm-up games so far.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Not enjoying it much so far.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

The intensity of this series is going to be ridiculous, backing a red card in each game will give you a good interest.

[weecounty hibby]

Lions struggling. Plenty ball but not doing much with it. Shocker of a decision not to take a scrum when SA down to 13 men. Physicality of SA is incredible. Going to be a tough test serjes

[weecounty hibby]

From a Scottish point of view Harris is having a very good game again

[Lancs Harp]

Lions struggling. Plenty ball but not doing much with it. Shocker of a decision not to take a scrum when SA down to 13 men. Physicality of SA is incredible. Going to be a tough test serjes

Imo the Lions will continue to struggle the biggest saving grace the Lions have is South Africas in activity at international level the past 2 years. Think this Lions squad is as weak a Lions squad Ive seen. Cant see anything other than a 3-0 Springbok win They are very strong, the Lions far from our best

[McD]

Surely a few players have played their way out of a test jersey tonight, and a few more removed themselves for consideration for certain positions

[The Pointer]

It was a poor performance last night and I don't think many of the team will start a test.

Murray is a poor choice of captain (compared to Hogg in the first game), Farrell has struggled and while the physicality of the Springboks was to be expected, the Lions took a while to adjust to it although the front five performed pretty well. Faletau and Navidi I don't think played well enough to justify a test selection and while Zammit was very good in the 6 Nations he hasn't quite shone yet and isn't anywhere near as dynamic as vdM.

Hogg, vdM, Price and Sutherland (whom I think has shone) start for the next game with Harris on the bench. Also it'll be interesting to see how the young fellow Smith plays given the rave reviews he's been getting.

[weecounty hibby]

Aus v France has been a great first half. I missed the first 5 so didn't see the red card but what a game since

[weecounty hibby]

That was a great game. Never a red card in a million years tho

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Well that was a tremendous test series.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

British Lions 49 The Stormers 3, good performance after a sluggish start.

[Lancs Harp]

British Lions 49 The Stormers 3, good performance after a sluggish start.

Much better tonight, cant say I know much about the opposition and what sort of team they had out, but the Lions played well tonight.

[JimBHibees]

Lions struggling. Plenty ball but not doing much with it. Shocker of a decision not to take a scrum when SA down to 13 men. Physicality of SA is incredible. Going to be a tough test serjes

That imo was a school boy error and probably showed a lack of clear decision making and leadership at the time, given how long it takes to get the decision there was loads of time to make the correct one. Think SA will overpower the Lions as their physicality can be off the scale. Was watching the Sky documentary Chasing the Sun and the episode I watched last night was excellent. Rassie Erasmus is some character and very inspirational.

Anyone any idea who is refereeing the tests?

[weecounty hibby]

That imo was a school boy error and probably showed a lack of clear decision making and leadership at the time, given how long it takes to get the decision there was loads of time to make the correct one. Think SA will overpower the Lions as their physicality can be off the scale. Was watching the Sky documentary Chasing the Sun and the episode I watched last night was excellent. Rassie Erasmus is some character and very inspirational.

Anyone any idea who is refereeing the tests?
Having watched all the games it's clearly a strategy decision to tap and go fro 5m out. Now I totally get that but at that pen it was the wrong decision as SA were a man short in the scrum and a man short in the backs.
Dunno who the refs are but I imagine one French, one Aus and one NZ

[JimBHibees]

Having watched all the games it's clearly a strategy decision to tap and go fro 5m out. Now I totally get that but at that pen it was the wrong decision as SA were a man short in the scrum and a man short in the backs.
Dunno who the refs are but I imagine one French, one Aus and one NZ

Yep would assume the same re refs.

[1875Sean]

Guy from the times said the starting team for the first test is below, pleased there is a few Scots starting

Hogg; A Watson, E Daly, R Henshaw, D van der Merwe; D Biggar, A Price; W Jones, L Cowan-Dickie, T Furlong, A W Jones (c), M Itoje, C Lawes, T Curry, J Conan.
Replacements K Owens, R Sutherland, K Sinckler, T Beirne, H Watson, I Henderson, C Murray, O Farrell.

[JimBHibees]

Guy from the times said the starting team for the first test is below, pleased there is a few Scots starting

Hogg; A Watson, E Daly, R Henshaw, D van der Merwe; D Biggar, A Price; W Jones, L Cowan-Dickie, T Furlong, A W Jones (c), M Itoje, C Lawes, T Curry, J Conan.
Replacements K Owens, R Sutherland, K Sinckler, T Beirne, H Watson, I Henderson, C Murray, O Farrell.

Would be surprised Lawes in the back row. Probably a friendly journo putting out a wrong team. Think Williams will be full back.

[Sylar]

On the domestic front, I'm actually quite disappointed to see that Cockers has left Edinburgh. He's done a great job turning us into a difficult team to beat, and a team that knew how to switch on the offensive flare - he was hampered last year by the Autumn Six Nations, and the normal Six Nations the following spring resulting in a lot of internationals missing plenty of playing time for us.

I certainly didn't judge us on our record last year - most of our regular starters were absent for most games and Cockers took an opportunity to give our younger players a shot for the future. We're a much better side than we were before he took over, and although we've lost some key players this off season, I'm looking forward to seeing what we do this coming season. Be interesting to see who's appointed as a replacement - the SRU have a real opportunity to be bold in their recruitment here!

[David_D]

3 Scotland players start against South Africa on Saturday. Hogg, Van Der werhe and Price. And Watson and Sutherland on the bench.

[1875Sean]

Would be surprised Lawes in the back row. Probably a friendly journo putting out a wrong team. Think Williams will be full back.

Announced today and Lawes is playing

[Sylar]

3 Scotland players start against South Africa on Saturday. Hogg, Van Der werhe and Price. And Watson on the bench.

Criminal that Watson isn't starting IMO. He's had an outstanding tour so far. Also feel a little for Chris Harris not being involved.

[McD]

Criminal that Watson isn't starting IMO. He's had an outstanding tour so far. Also feel a little for Chris Harris not being involved.


yeah Harris has had a great tour and unlucky to not be involved.

from what I’ve read and seen, he’s a victim of how Gatland was wanting to load up the bench with forwards, so with the versatility of Watson, daly, Hogg and Farrell, he could get away with only having a scrum half and One other back on the bench.

if you’re a centre or a wing/fullback, the gist seemed to be that you were either starting or not in the squad at all.

shame for him, hopefully he’ll get a chance in the 2nd or 3rd test, I’d have him well ahead of daly IMO

also completely agree about Hamish Watson, should have been starting 100%, been the best loose forward on the tour for me

[Danderhall Hibs]

yeah Harris has had a great tour and unlucky to not be involved.

from what I’ve read and seen, he’s a victim of how Gatland was wanting to load up the bench with forwards, so with the versatility of Watson, daly, Hogg and Farrell, he could get away with only having a scrum half and One other back on the bench.

if you’re a centre or a wing/fullback, the gist seemed to be that you were either starting or not in the squad at all.

shame for him, hopefully he’ll get a chance in the 2nd or 3rd test, I’d have him well ahead of daly IMO

also completely agree about Hamish Watson, should have been starting 100%, been the best loose forward on the tour for me

It’s a 5/3 bench and Williams is on the bench?

[McD]

It’s a 5/3 bench and Williams is on the bench?

Apologies you are absolutely correct. I did look at the names listed, honest ��

[Danderhall Hibs]

Apologies you are absolutely correct. I did look at the names listed, honest ��

👍🏼 Think the leak predicted a 6/2 with no Williams.

[cabbageandribs1875]

New Zealand and Australia have pulled out of the rugby league WC this october Rugby League World Cup: Australia and New Zealand pull out of tournament - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/57925720)


shame, i fancied the Aussies to retain it, that's a huge blow for the organisers

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Amazing that they've failed to even find a spot on the bench for Adams.

[TrinityHibs]

Amazing that they've failed to even find a spot on the bench for Adams.

Sternum injury I think

[JimBHibees]

Announced today and Lawes is playing

Yep seen that still surprised :greengrin

Seen the times guy got it spot on pretty poor it was leaked to him and pretty poor he published it imo.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Sternum injury I think

Fair enough, just seemed a bit odd that the story on Sky Sports website never made any mention of an injury.

[JimBHibees]

Apparently the Tv match official for the first test is a South African due to the original Aussie guy not being able to make it. Very very strange there was no back up option given the pandemic. Think there should be a tmo from over here in the second test to even if up.

[McD]

Apparently the Tv match official for the first test is a South African due to the original Aussie guy not being able to make it. Very very strange there was no back up option given the pandemic. Think there should be a tmo from over here in the second test to even if up.


could be wrong but I think it’s going to be the same TMO for the whole series

[Danderhall Hibs]

Now 4 Scots starting - Sutherland in for Wyn Jones due to injury.

[Lancs Harp]

Lions 22-17 what a second half performance!! Feared the worse at half time.:thumbsup:

[Golden Bear]

Edge of the seat stuff! A battling second half performance, well done the Lions!

[JeMeSouviens]

Edge of the seat stuff! A battling second half performance, well done the Lions!

Not exactly a festival of rugby for the neutral but gritty stuff from the Lions.

[Sylar]

Pleased with the win, and plenty of food for thought for Gatland for the second test.

Don't think we'll see van der Merwe in the second test - didn't do enough for me today. Far more likely that Josh Adams or LRZ comes in to gives us something different. Thought Hogg had a very quiet game too, and never really got into it. Courtney Lawes was outstanding today, as was Cowan-Dickie. I thought Price did well when he was on, but he was starting to make some poor kicks just before he went off - probably a good thing we finished the game with Murray at 9.

[McD]

Thought the ref was poor tbh, lots of wee things that weren’t dealt with I felt

dont think a single back really stood out well (on top of that, daly is just not a top player and it showed). Wouldn’t be surprised to see some changes in there next week, possibly Williams, Harris, Farrell (especially if biggar hasn’t recovered from the possible concussion), Rees-Zammit/Adams. Not saying I want all those changes, but I’m not gatland.
Think price will probably keep his place though. I’m hoping Hogg keeps his place, think he had a controlled game today, VDM played ok.

from the forwards, Cowan-dickie, Itojie and Lawes played very well. Would like to see Hamish Watson in for Conan.

[weecounty hibby]

Great game. Test match rugby at it highest level. Thought all the Scottish boys did well. Van der Merwe although not seeing much ball was pivotal in changing the dynamic in favour of the lions with his kick chases. Price played very well and again the game changed with his box kick at the start of the 2nd. Sutherland scrimmage well and did well in the loose. Hogg was quiet but not really his fault, was a bit dodgy under the high ball. Hamish Watson just did Hamish Watson stuff when he came on. Lawes and Itoje were superb. Not sure if Daly at outside centre worked. I think there will definitely be changes for the 2nd test

[Lancs Harp]

I'm very pleased with the result I honestly thought we'd get swept 3-0. Cut a few of the mistakes and penalties out in the second half and were far more disciplined. The Lions got stronger and Boks faded, maybe due to their lack of matches? Still a win is a win, well done chaps.

[Fritz]

Very good second half performance from the Lions. Itoje and Lawes were immense. Thought the Scots all did ok, don’t expect Sutherland to start next week, thought DvdM played well and caused problems under the high ball, Price was fine and Hogg didn’t really have much to do. Can’t see why Williams would come in for him.

As an aside, how bad is O’Gara on Sky sports?! Absolutely miserable and clearly not a Scottish fan.

[heretoday]

Hamish Watson was lucky to remain on the pitch and I suppose could still face some retrospective ruling.
He should keep his place on form alone!

[He's here!]

Hamish Watson was lucky to remain on the pitch and I suppose could still face some retrospective ruling.
He should keep his place on form alone!

Yes we rode our luck a bit there but a great result and overall and good to see the Scots playing such a big role.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Very good second half performance from the Lions. Itoje and Lawes were immense. Thought the Scots all did ok, don’t expect Sutherland to start next week, thought DvdM played well and caused problems under the high ball, Price was fine and Hogg didn’t really have much to do. Can’t see why Williams would come in for him.

As an aside, how bad is O’Gara on Sky sports?! Absolutely miserable and clearly not a Scottish fan.

Itoje is a machine, great performance.

[heretoday]

Looking forward to the 2nd test. Hamish Watson not even on the bench. Precaution?

Lions will need to watch Kolbe. Livewire guy.

[Fritz]

Well, fair to say if the Lions got the benefit of the doubt with some ‘50-50’ calls last week, SA have got them in the 1st half this week so far. Wonder if the pre match comments have played any part in that.

[heretoday]

It's a very tight battle. Not much running rugby unfortunately. S Africa have two speedy wingers but they've had no chance. Lions have contained their opponents well.

[J-C]

Wasn't enamoured with last weeks ref and the same could be said about this, both want to be centre of attention.

[Just_Jimmy]

the ref has been a disgrace. maybe gatland should make a social media rant video about how the refs hate them.

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[Hiber-nation]

The replay proves it's not a try so he gives....a try. I will never understand rugby.

[Just_Jimmy]

The replay proves it's not a try so he gives....a try. I will never understand rugby.cos the on field call was try. if the lions one had been called try it would have stood.

needless to say he's bottled every call today and he's been a disgrace.



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[weecounty hibby]

cos the on field call was try. if the lions one had been called try it would have stood.

needless to say he's bottled every call today and he's been a disgrace.



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Disagree. He has been fine. Very clear with his comments to both captains. In real time I called both the decisions that he did as well. It was clear Henshaw had knocked on but not so clear with the SA try. I would have called on field try as well. The problem has been that the Lions discipline has been poor from the start. Too many penalties and also not very impressive with the ball in the air.I

Disappointing performance and played right into the hands of the South Africans. The Lions won't win next week either

[Just_Jimmy]

Disagree. He has been fine. Very clear with his comments to both captains. In real time I called both the decisions that he did as well. It was clear Henshaw had knocked on but not so clear with the SA try. I would have called on field try as well. The problem has been that the Lions discipline has been poor from the start. Too many penalties and also not very impressive with the ball in the air.I

Disappointing performance and played right into the hands of the South Africans. The Lions won't win next week eitherkolbes challenge Murray was worse than a yellow.

fafs "tackle" which even as a sale fan, he has form for, not even given a proper look.

then the two try one each.

that video went a long way to this result.

that said, the persistence with the poor air game was awful and gatland massively out coached.


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[Fritz]

Disagree. He has been fine. Very clear with his comments to both captains. In real time I called both the decisions that he did as well. It was clear Henshaw had knocked on but not so clear with the SA try. I would have called on field try as well. The problem has been that the Lions discipline has been poor from the start. Too many penalties and also not very impressive with the ball in the air.I

Disappointing performance and played right into the hands of the South Africans. The Lions won't win next week either

Wasn’t given for a knock on though. Held up and then ripped. Apparently. On field decision no try when the refs have been instructed to give benefit of the doubt to the attacking side. On field decision try for SA. Big difference. And no second look at FdK tackle, only a yellow for Kolbe, no sanction on Mbonanbi or Le Roux in the aftermath? Ref was clearly influenced by Arasmus in the build up.

[J-C]

Poor ref and poor decision making by the Lions, we won nowt with the kick upfield but continued all game doing it, SA will win next week.

[Fritz]

Poor ref and poor decision making by the Lions, we won nowt with the kick upfield but continued all game doing it, SA will win next week.

Yes, the insistence to continually go with the up and unders from Biggar was baffling. Back 3 might as well not have been the there. If you’re going to play like that then as much as it pains me to say it then Williams should start ahead of Hogg.

[The Pointer]

Yes, the insistence to continually go with the up and unders from Biggar was baffling. Back 3 might as well not have been the there. If you’re going to play like that then as much as it pains me to say it then Williams should start ahead of Hogg.

I agree. We persisted with high balls when it was clear it wasn't working and they were maxing possession as a result. On the other hand their high kicks were gaining maximum advantage as we dropped or knocked on most.

Hogg hasn't done himself any favours so expect him to be replaced along with DvdM. Harris did enough to keep his place, but as for Alun-Wyn Jones, sorry mate, but time's up on your Lions career after today's performance.

[Just_Jimmy]

I agree. We persisted with high balls when it was clear it wasn't working and they were maxing possession as a result. On the other hand their high kicks were gaining maximum advantage as we dropped or knocked on most.

Hogg hasn't done himself any favours so expect him to be replaced along with DvdM. Harris did enough to keep his place, but as for Alun-Wyn Jones, sorry mate, but time's up on your Lions career after today's performance.given he just bounced back from a dislocated shoulder and played exceptional in game 1, gatland isn't going to drop his captain when it'll move him to third in all time lions test list.





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[McD]

Setting aside national passion and gatlands partisan selection policies, I’d say several players should have played their way out of the side for next week.

pains me to say it, Hogg was poor, dropped several high balls. Van der merwe was even worse. Anthony Watson did nothing. Biggar was crap. The only forward who played reasonably well was curry.

I expect Williams, adams, possibly Rees-zammit, Farrell to all come in. I’d go further, and change curry to 8, bring in Hamish Watson, at least one different lock, and shuffle the front row. I’d also bring in Russell but can’t see gatland doing that, although he may bring him into the bench.

[JeMeSouviens]

given he just bounced back from a dislocated shoulder and played exceptional in game 1, gatland isn't going to drop his captain when it'll move him to third in all time lions test list.





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He dropped O’Driscoll.

[JimBHibees]

I agree. We persisted with high balls when it was clear it wasn't working and they were maxing possession as a result. On the other hand their high kicks were gaining maximum advantage as we dropped or knocked on most.

Hogg hasn't done himself any favours so expect him to be replaced along with DvdM. Harris did enough to keep his place, but as for Alun-Wyn Jones, sorry mate, but time's up on your Lions career after today's performance.

Yeah agree with that. Looked like Hogg was targeted with the high ball and he and the wingers didn't do good enough. The Lions style of play was awful little or no attempt to run the ball poor kick after poor kick. Would bring Farrell in personally with Russell on the bench. Would also replace Wyn Jones for final test. Boks didn't run out of steam like last week. Thought boks got the big calls by the ref, definite red card in my mind by Colbe totally reckless and dangerous. Didn't think their second try was a proper grounding and De Klerk should have been done. Quite how Jonker is still tmo is simply wrong.

[J-C]

Yeah agree with that. Looked like Hogg was targeted with the high ball and he and the wingers didn't do good enough. The Lions style of play was awful little or no attempt to run the ball poor kick after poor kick. Would bring Farrell in personally with Russell on the bench. Would also replace Wyn Jones for final test. Boks didn't run out of steam like last week. Thought boks got the big calls by the ref, definite red card in my mind by Colbe totally reckless and dangerous. Didn't think their second try was a proper grounding and De Klerk should have been done. Quite how Jonker is still tmo is simply wrong.


Why was a SA Jonker actually the TMO, surely it should have been an independent official.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Why was a SA Jonker actually the TMO, surely it should have been an independent official.

NZ official called off last week and no one else available.

Yesterday’s game was a dire watch - tried to play them at their own game and lost. The 40 minute 1st half lasted over an hour - dull as. Not exactly a display of tactical genius.

[heretoday]

Lions will get humped next week. SA can only improve.

[cabbageandribs1875]

British and Irish Lions head coach Warren Gatland has made sweeping changes to his matchday squad for Saturday's decisive third Test against South Africa.
Hooker Ken Owens, prop Wyn Jones, scrum-half Ali Price, centre Bundee Aki, wing Josh Adams and full-back Liam Williams all start in Cape Town.

Fly-half Finn Russell, lock Adam Beard and number eight Sam Simmonds come into the 23 for the first time this series.
Owen Farrell, Taulupe Faletau, Anthony Watson and Stuart Hogg are out of the squad.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Delighted to see Adams back, try scoring machine!

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Any reason why Sky are not covering The Bledisloe Cup game on Saturday morning?

[McD]

Any reason why Sky are not covering The Bledisloe Cup game on Saturday morning?


they don’t have the rights to those matches any more, same as super rugby, contract ended

an online platform called ‘rugby pass’ (I think) has the rights now

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

That's a tad unfortunate. Firestick will need to come into play.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Sky showing it now.

[McD]

Sky showing it now.


cheers for the heads up :aok:

[cabbageandribs1875]

Rugby League WC postponed until next year

[cabbageandribs1875]

Australia have dropped three players from their Bledisloe Cup opener against New Zealand on Saturday after they broke curfew with a drinking session.
Winger Marika Koroibete, number eight Isi Naisarani and prop Pone Fa'amausili continued to drink alcohol for more than two hours after curfew following a team-bonding session in Auckland.

Coach Dave Rennie said the players had "angered" the rest of the squad.
"These three men have paid a big price for their decisions," said Rennie.
He added: "We've got a big squad here - 42 players. Thirty-nine understood the importance of getting together and getting connected and having a quiet beer and three guys lacked the discipline beyond that.
"It's not so much [about being] intoxicated. It was the fact that they continued drinking well beyond the time that was listed.
"We've stated the importance of our preparation for the All Blacks. This obviously didn't fit with their mindset so [we're] incredibly disappointed and, to be honest, there's a big chunk of that group who are pretty angry."


all-blacks should win this one anyway

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Easy enough win for NZ, would've been a bit closer if The Aussies hadn't missed so many kicks.