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Andy Bee
30-10-2019, 01:28 AM
Cross purposes? I was saying that any MP or MSP will use their background to take on consultancy roles when they leave. She or a he can’t possibly do that while an elected meneber. Although actually I think MPs can and do, maybe MSPs too. It has to be declared and dropped if one becomes a minister?

A few interesting inputs, I didn't realise the speaker was such a big fitbaw fan.

https://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/standards-and-financial-interests/parliamentary-commissioner-for-standards/registers-of-interests/register-of-members-financial-interests/

Jack
30-10-2019, 06:44 AM
Tories are lying *******s (warning may contain traces of Tory)

I can see this thread exploding over the next few weeks!

Future17
30-10-2019, 01:10 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-50225575

lapsedhibee
30-10-2019, 03:38 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-50225575

"The former chairman of the Scottish Conservative Party had taken the weapon out to clean it but then forgot to return it to its secure location." :fibber:

Fife-Hibee
30-10-2019, 03:48 PM
"The former chairman of the Scottish Conservative Party had taken the weapon out to clean it but then forgot to return it to its secure location." :fibber:

The gun was just resting in his drawer.... etc

Future17
31-10-2019, 11:32 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-50246099

Javid's comments about "an elite" are beyond parody.

Moulin Yarns
31-10-2019, 12:32 PM
There should be a rule against a sitting mp changing seat.

Apparently Boris Johnson is ditching Uxbridge and South Ruislip (majority of 5,034) and scarpering off to stand in Rutland & Melton (majority of 23,104).

#generalelection2019

Colr
31-10-2019, 12:43 PM
There should be a rule against a sitting mp changing seat.

Apparently Boris Johnson is ditching Uxbridge and South Ruislip (majority of 5,034) and scarpering off to stand in Rutland & Melton (majority of 23,104).

#generalelection2019
Not sure he has to worry. Labour have put a far-right Corbanysta into the seat which is pretty centrist.

Fife-Hibee
31-10-2019, 01:15 PM
The tories rambling on about sorting out public services like education, policing, health services (which they're going to flog off anyway), fire services.... etc

They've had nearly 10 years to sort them out and have absolutely decimated them instead.

#BritainDeservesBetter indeed.

Fife-Hibee
31-10-2019, 01:18 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-50246099

Javid's comments about "an elite" are beyond parody.

Never really liked Hugh Grant very much. But he's gone up in my estimations here. :agree:

Peevemor
31-10-2019, 01:29 PM
Never really liked Hugh Grant very much. But he's gone up in my estimations here. :agree:He rocketed in mine after this (from when Bojo tried to close down parliament).

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191031/f3fabbeb6c6dfaa631502b2660182749.jpg

Hiber-nation
31-10-2019, 02:18 PM
He rocketed in mine after this (from when Bojo tried to close down parliament).

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191031/f3fabbeb6c6dfaa631502b2660182749.jpg

I'll never tire of reading that. Magnificent.

Jack Hackett
31-10-2019, 08:29 PM
I'll never tire of reading that. Magnificent.

+1

Tweet of the Year

Fife-Hibee
31-10-2019, 08:32 PM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/73253463_450578215815409_2072406425665011712_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=108&_nc_eui2=AeFwIqhYvAK5j949K0CfKKofhyyarl6zX3ZsjuA8K IRGcq7t4gBGIGf0PC2nP-niJ8RWcQy0xrKZv2mBWfAxR9UshgcgFQQawW9XpMDoxzEJfg&_nc_oc=AQkv8W72F5dnTMihypFVIB6TmwEl-_GatWjKVlGq6f55XAFevJvx_HyMwU9UDoPc2_g&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=f6da7df61aa5dff701993bde40dbf521&oe=5E1FD817

Moulin Yarns
31-10-2019, 09:09 PM
Apologies for the halloween image 🎃😱

Diana Ditch. https://t.co/KlbIpfeyS7

jonty
31-10-2019, 09:12 PM
Apologies for the halloween image 🎃😱

Diana Ditch. https://t.co/KlbIpfeyS7
Explains why he keeps his hair messed up

Hiber-nation
01-11-2019, 06:38 AM
Apologies for the halloween image 🎃😱

Diana Ditch. https://t.co/KlbIpfeyS7

Haha, I know Martin, good lad but complete heidcase, seems to have done well for himself at the Herald. Very anti-SNP.

lapsedhibee
01-11-2019, 02:59 PM
I can see this thread exploding over the next few weeks!

Ray Martin-Wells, Hartlepool Tory Party Chairman:

“I think if we had a clear run at it we’d have a strong chance – Boris is a straight-talker which goes down very well in Hartlepool"

Yes he is, if your definition of talking straight is lying.

Fife-Hibee
02-11-2019, 08:01 PM
I see Ruth Davidson is giving Stephen Kerr (Stirling tory MP) her full endorsement. Never mind that she wouldn't have the right to get married had he got his way on the issue.

Glory Lurker
03-11-2019, 12:17 AM
Ray Martin-Wells, Hartlepool Tory Party Chairman:

“I think if we had a clear run at it we’d have a strong chance – Boris is a straight-talker which goes down very well in Hartlepool"

Yes he is, if your definition of talking straight is lying.

Why would it go down well in Hartlepool? I thought I had more in common with a docker down there than I had with a crofter on Lewis?

lapsedhibee
03-11-2019, 09:35 AM
Fauxrage claiming he was twice offered a peerage to stop him getting in the government's way. Things warming up nicely in the ****-on-**** action.

Fuzzywuzzy
03-11-2019, 11:16 AM
https://news.sky.com/story/dominic-cummings-labour-says-pms-senior-adviser-faces-questions-over-his-past-in-russia-11852833

The new Kim philby

grunt
03-11-2019, 01:41 PM
Ross Thomson quitting as Tory candidate for general election

Moulin Yarns
03-11-2019, 01:46 PM
Ross Thomson quitting as Tory candidate for general election


He tweeted 10 minutes ago.

Please see below a statement which I have released to the media this afternoon 👇🏻 https://t.co/UbURTHrskt

grunt
03-11-2019, 02:18 PM
He tweeted 10 minutes ago.

Please see below a statement which I have released to the media this afternoon 👇🏻 https://t.co/UbURTHrsktI wasn't claiming this to be an exclusive.

Moulin Yarns
03-11-2019, 02:20 PM
I wasn't claiming this to be an exclusive.

No I was just linking to the story so that folks can read more.

grunt
03-11-2019, 02:31 PM
No I was just linking to the story so that folks can read more.Actually that was very good of you. Thank you.
It does seem to be that there are a multitude of rats leaving the sinking Tory ship.

Ozyhibby
03-11-2019, 02:41 PM
Labour mp who alleged the assault should have waited until it was too late for them to change candidate.


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CloudSquall
03-11-2019, 02:51 PM
He tweeted 10 minutes ago.

Please see below a statement which I have released to the media this afternoon ���� https://t.co/UbURTHrskt

It's a bit weird that he released a statement earlier today about standing for re-election and then 6 hours latter he releases another one to say he will stand down, I wonder if he was giving a slight (strong) push to go..

Peronally I'm disappointed, that was the SNP Gain I was most looking forward to toasting.

Mibbes Aye
03-11-2019, 02:51 PM
Actually that was very good of you. Thank you.
It does seem to be that there are a multitude of rats leaving the sinking Tory ship.

Lots of MPs standing down from Labour and the Tories. Interestingly, a disproportionate number of women - I think I heard that around 40% of the number were female- with many citing the violent and misogynistic abuse they were facing, usually from faceless cowards on social media.

Ozyhibby
03-11-2019, 02:57 PM
Lots of MPs standing down from Labour and the Tories. Interestingly, a disproportionate number of women - I think I heard that around 40% of the number were female- with many citing the violent and misogynistic abuse they were facing, usually from faceless cowards on social media.

Turnover of mp’s has risen massively over the last 20 years. Lots more volatility since the financial crash.


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CloudSquall
03-11-2019, 03:12 PM
After backing every man and their dog against Boris remainer Ruth Davidson has now backed him as the "man to get Brexit done" (apologies for the Daily Heil link).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7643375/Ruth-Davidson-gives-Boris-Johnson-huge-boost-former-critic-hails-man-handle-Brexit.html


"The people of this country are quite frankly sick to the back teeth of politicians fighting between themselves while ignoring the instructions they were given. Scotland voted to stay part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU."


After being told that voting to stay in the UK was the only way to stay in the EU :timebomb::timebomb:

lapsedhibee
03-11-2019, 03:18 PM
After backing every man and their dog against Boris remainer Ruth Davidson has now backed him as the "man to get Brexit done"

WTF? Now that she's not getting her new job, is she looking for her old one back? Her poor family.

cabbageandribs1875
03-11-2019, 03:30 PM
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/politics/westminster/1878768/aberdeen-tycoon-pledges-5000-towards-ross-thomsons-re-election-campaign/?utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR14fIg4bbsNzkGPVQnjxSSg0WZG5spRvpL-2gN9hk0s0TvY3hIXYbYQxdg

A former Labour donor has pledged £5,000 to try to help Ross Thomson retain the Aberdeen South seat for the Conservatives.
The donation from property developer Alan Massie was registered on October 9 and a spokesman for Mr Thomson confirmed that it was for his campaign for re-election.
Mr Massie, a director of Carlton Rock who now lives in Jersey, was previously one of Labour’s top private donors.



should have saved his money, the baw groping sexual deviant has resigned :faf:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-50280977?fbclid=IwAR16pDnhE4MH7NRDLh83U4BPhHwV1xvF zNnmd3TjFoAw-L9ASvc3qw1Ukw4 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-50280977?fbclid=IwAR16pDnhE4MH7NRDLh83U4BPhHwV1xvF zNnmd3TjFoAw-L9ASvc3qw1Ukw4)


Scottish Conservative MP Ross Thomson is to stand down after being accused of sexually assaulting a Labour MP in a Commons bar.
Mr Thomson said he had made the "hardest decision of my life" not to contest the seat for Aberdeen South at the general election.
Labour MP Paul Sweeney had said he reported Mr Thomson to Westminster's standards watchdog following the alleged incident last October.


he was an utter fud as an MP anyway, just like every other scottish tory MP

Moulin Yarns
03-11-2019, 03:41 PM
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/politics/westminster/1878768/aberdeen-tycoon-pledges-5000-towards-ross-thomsons-re-election-campaign/?utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR14fIg4bbsNzkGPVQnjxSSg0WZG5spRvpL-2gN9hk0s0TvY3hIXYbYQxdg

A former Labour donor has pledged £5,000 to try to help Ross Thomson retain the Aberdeen South seat for the Conservatives.
The donation from property developer Alan Massie was registered on October 9 and a spokesman for Mr Thomson confirmed that it was for his campaign for re-election.
Mr Massie, a director of Carlton Rock who now lives in Jersey, was previously one of Labour’s top private donors.



should have saved his money, the baw groping sexual deviant has resigned :faf:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-50280977?fbclid=IwAR16pDnhE4MH7NRDLh83U4BPhHwV1xvF zNnmd3TjFoAw-L9ASvc3qw1Ukw4 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-50280977?fbclid=IwAR16pDnhE4MH7NRDLh83U4BPhHwV1xvF zNnmd3TjFoAw-L9ASvc3qw1Ukw4)


Scottish Conservative MP Ross Thomson is to stand down after being accused of sexually assaulting a Labour MP in a Commons bar.
Mr Thomson said he had made the "hardest decision of my life" not to contest the seat for Aberdeen South at the general election.
Labour MP Paul Sweeney had said he reported Mr Thomson to Westminster's standards watchdog following the alleged incident last October.


he was an utter fud as an MP anyway, just like every other scottish tory MP







Where have you been? This was first reported about 14:40 by Grunt

Glory Lurker
03-11-2019, 03:49 PM
I'm surprised that the Mail ran with it, considering the (now realised) potential for damage to an arch-Johnsonite.

Hibernia&Alba
03-11-2019, 09:34 PM
Ross Thomson quitting as Tory candidate for general election


Groping men's erses in the Commons must be difficult to explain. Easier to bolt.

cabbageandribs1875
04-11-2019, 02:35 PM
Where have you been? This was first reported about 14:40 by Grunt



sorry didn't see it mentioned, i'm a tad behind the goss the now :greengrin anyways, turns out one of his last lies before he leaves is telling the public he felt he had to resign, not quite true, turns out he only resigned after the chairman of the Aberdeen tory association told him he wouldn't be signing his nomination papers, utter pleb of a man that done absolutely nothing for his constituency, unless they asked him to stand up in the HoC now and then,point fingers at the SNP benches and call them bad, he's certainly gonna miss the Hoc Bar, at least other male MP's will feel a little safer at their workplace

Fife-Hibee
04-11-2019, 02:47 PM
I'm surprised that the Mail ran with it, considering the (now realised) potential for damage to an arch-Johnsonite.

They wouldn't have reported it if he wasn't stepping down. Now they can twist it into a story of Boris Johnson acting swiftly.

jonty
04-11-2019, 06:02 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50294569

No. 10 apparently stalling on the release of the report on alleged Russian interference, until after the election.

Cataplana
04-11-2019, 06:06 PM
Groping men's erses in the Commons must be difficult to explain. Easier to bolt.

It was his front bum.

CloudSquall
05-11-2019, 10:40 AM
Rees-Mogg with the quickest of apologies after coming out with the below in regards to Grenfell,

"And I think if either of us were in a fire, whatever the fire brigade said, we would leave the burning building. It just seems the common sense thing to do.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-50302573

Fife-Hibee
05-11-2019, 10:54 AM
The reaction this parody got. :tee hee:

https://i.ibb.co/ykYzBmq/lol.png

lapsedhibee
05-11-2019, 10:58 AM
Rees-Mogg with the quickest of apologies after coming out with the below in regards to Grenfell,

"And I think if either of us were in a fire, whatever the fire brigade said, we would leave the burning building. It just seems the common sense thing to do.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-50302573

Victim blaming is probably all the rage where he lives, in the 18th century.

CloudSquall
05-11-2019, 08:54 PM
Have to laugh, Derek Stillie (yep the ex keeper) is standing for the Tories in Ayrshire, Ruth and co thought up the catchy hashtag #safepairofhands , quite the backfire off of that one given Ross Thomson's hand management while in Westminster :greengrin

https://twitter.com/JaneyGodley/status/1191678220757880833

Fife-Hibee
05-11-2019, 09:09 PM
Have to laugh, Derek Stillie (yep the ex keeper) is standing for the Tories in Ayrshire, Ruth and co thought up the catchy hashtag #safepairofhands , quite the backfire off of that one given Ross Thomson's hand management while in Westminster :greengrin

https://twitter.com/JaneyGodley/status/1191678220757880833

#BritainDeservesBetter #SafePairOfHands

They're not very good at this modern day online PR stuff are they? :greengrin

Hibernia&Alba
06-11-2019, 10:41 AM
Rees-Mogg with the quickest of apologies after coming out with the below in regards to Grenfell,

"And I think if either of us were in a fire, whatever the fire brigade said, we would leave the burning building. It just seems the common sense thing to do.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-50302573

Yes, so far this week our friends in the Conservative Party have:

Apologised for saying the victims of Grenfell Tower fire should have ignored fire brigade warnings and taken their chances.

Apologised for saying people on benefits should be "put down".

Refused to apologise for doctoring a video of Keir Starmer answering Brexit questions.


Tory class

Moulin Yarns
06-11-2019, 10:47 AM
Yes, so far this week our friends in the Conservative Party have:

Apologised for saying the victims of Grenfell Tower fire should have ignored fire brigade warnings and taken their chances.

Apologised for saying people on benefits should be "put down".

Refused to apologise for doctoring a video of Keir Starmer answering Brexit questions.


Tory class

Refused to appear on screen to answer pre-prepared questions which wasn't very clever(ley)

Fife-Hibee
06-11-2019, 05:59 PM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/76751755_2836874229685805_4598204416732954624_n.jp g?_nc_cat=100&_nc_eui2=AeHuMQIyNjC5HyfHDDnqdl0prA5rdTAYMo0M5KRhw w04cTW-N0Jsz9X5HgwQEhAhlvpYAVYaV4V264xEOMvekQEROiTqaC-z-sjYgotP0yi_SA&_nc_oc=AQkNyM3KbZQ2L16ZDbMkWBtd3Bi7DckNyKYe1nPNCHt YVLhcWe_kUUrRBqx-uxVqbmw&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=fa70503be7da7fff5a30a90c1aa84f36&oe=5E175537

Jack Hackett
06-11-2019, 09:02 PM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/76751755_2836874229685805_4598204416732954624_n.jp g?_nc_cat=100&_nc_eui2=AeHuMQIyNjC5HyfHDDnqdl0prA5rdTAYMo0M5KRhw w04cTW-N0Jsz9X5HgwQEhAhlvpYAVYaV4V264xEOMvekQEROiTqaC-z-sjYgotP0yi_SA&_nc_oc=AQkNyM3KbZQ2L16ZDbMkWBtd3Bi7DckNyKYe1nPNCHt YVLhcWe_kUUrRBqx-uxVqbmw&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=fa70503be7da7fff5a30a90c1aa84f36&oe=5E175537

Middle finger politics is now mainstream

Moulin Yarns
07-11-2019, 03:52 PM
Not that they have anything to hide.


https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnsons-conservatives-receive-surge-in-cash-from-russians-2019-11

lapsedhibee
07-11-2019, 04:07 PM
Not that they have anything to hide.


https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnsons-conservatives-receive-surge-in-cash-from-russians-2019-11

"£30,000 for dinner with Gavin Williamson" :faf:

Moulin Yarns
08-11-2019, 05:40 PM
This is brilliant



Boris visited our village and asked us what we needed ,

1”we have surgery but no doctor."

BJ then got out his mobile after speaking for a while told us not worry, a doctor will be here later ,he then asked “anything else “
2,told him that we had no cell phone connection !

Fife-Hibee
09-11-2019, 01:56 PM
Is there any depth they won't sink to? - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/boris-johnson-sixth-form-students-trapped-room-nottinghamshire-general-election-a9196231.html?fbclid=IwAR3EvtYj2EC0ABbvYU_ThfViOgd-5_dfeFKlqw67WDzQzDfmEBJmae8mbhU

22% in Scotland considering voting for this lot? Aye right!

lapsedhibee
09-11-2019, 06:27 PM
Is there any depth they won't sink to? - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/boris-johnson-sixth-form-students-trapped-room-nottinghamshire-general-election-a9196231.html?fbclid=IwAR3EvtYj2EC0ABbvYU_ThfViOgd-5_dfeFKlqw67WDzQzDfmEBJmae8mbhU

22% in Scotland considering voting for this lot? Aye right!

Cummings has correctly judged that the only way for Johnson to get through an entire election campaign without embarrassing himself answering a question is to ensure that no-one ever manages to ask him one. Shirley the televised leaders' debate, if he turns up, will be a car crash.

Fife-Hibee
09-11-2019, 06:48 PM
Cummings has correctly judged that the only way for Johnson to get through an entire election campaign without embarrassing himself answering a question is to ensure that no-one ever manages to ask him one. Shirley the televised leaders' debate, if he turns up, will be a car crash.

Wonder if he'll be wearing an ear piece as well.

Fife-Hibee
11-11-2019, 05:20 PM
"Please Labour, lend us your votes in Scotland to stop that nasty Sturgeon and her already voted through mandate." :faf:

https://twitter.com/ScotTories/status/1193871477130637312

Smartie
11-11-2019, 05:30 PM
"Please Labour, lend us your votes in Scotland to stop that nasty Sturgeon and her already voted through mandate." :faf:

https://twitter.com/ScotTories/status/1193871477130637312

I don't think I'd be showing my face in Springburn ever again after that display.

CloudSquall
11-11-2019, 05:48 PM
"Please Labour, lend us your votes in Scotland to stop that nasty Sturgeon and her already voted through mandate." :faf:

https://twitter.com/ScotTories/status/1193871477130637312

Have the Scottish Conservatives got any policy apart from "Tell Sturgeon we said No!!!"?

Fife-Hibee
11-11-2019, 05:51 PM
Have the Scottish Conservatives got any policy apart from "Tell Sturgeon we said No!!!"?

It's the only policy they need seemingly. Check out their 400+ likes from the WATP brigade.

Fife-Hibee
17-11-2019, 03:31 PM
A face you can trust....

https://img.techpowerup.org/191117/afaceyoucantrust.png

Jack Hackett
17-11-2019, 06:26 PM
A face you can trust....

https://img.techpowerup.org/191117/afaceyoucantrust.png

That's actually the face of a man going through the motions... He knows they're f*****

cabbageandribs1875
17-11-2019, 07:14 PM
Woman Johnson is accused of misusing public funds to pursue affair with breaks her silence


https://skwawkbox.org/2019/11/17/the-video-boris-johnson-hoped-to-god-would-never-happen-has-dropped/?fbclid=IwAR0z9tGFd9aPSNrJuOtg_ltaFjz71Zuo6UarY-fo0-AFweidV7Mw6iWkEW8


Arcuri also suggests that Johnson’s aides told her to deny their affair – and that the first time she tried to contact him directly after the scandal broke, she was passed to someone who spoke in Chinese.

i'm surprised it wasn't Russian

itv 11pm tonight, hope she doesn't hold back

Jack Hackett
17-11-2019, 07:28 PM
Woman Johnson is accused of misusing public funds to pursue affair with breaks her silence


https://skwawkbox.org/2019/11/17/the-video-boris-johnson-hoped-to-god-would-never-happen-has-dropped/?fbclid=IwAR0z9tGFd9aPSNrJuOtg_ltaFjz71Zuo6UarY-fo0-AFweidV7Mw6iWkEW8


Arcuri also suggests that Johnson’s aides told her to deny their affair – and that the first time she tried to contact him directly after the scandal broke, she was passed to someone who spoke in Chinese.

i'm surprised it wasn't Russian

itv 11pm tonight

Saw that in my Google feed earlier. A woman scorned, eh!?... at your peril Bozo :greengrin

cabbageandribs1875
17-11-2019, 07:40 PM
Saw that in my Google feed earlier. A woman scorned, eh!?... at your peril Bozo :greengrin



lets hear what she says first, i suspect if it was going to be anything seriously damning the blonde buffoon would have put a stop to it's screening :cb a bit like the Russian Report

Fife-Hibee
17-11-2019, 08:12 PM
She accuses Boris of "casting her aside like a one night stand".

Don't blame him for thinking that she was tbh.

Jack Hackett
17-11-2019, 08:46 PM
She accuses Boris of "casting her aside like a one night stand".

Don't blame him for thinking that she was tbh.

She claims the affair went on for months and no doubt has a bit of dirt on the philandering clown... hopefully, that he wouldn't even admit to Dom in case he scolded him :greengrin

Fife-Hibee
17-11-2019, 10:15 PM
Several minutes in and my stomach is already churning. :sick:

cabbageandribs1875
17-11-2019, 10:27 PM
Several minutes in and my stomach is already churning. :sick:


ditto, me thinks this is just a PR stunt for her business....what odds for at least something interesting after the break :rolleyes:

Fife-Hibee
17-11-2019, 11:10 PM
Well that's an hour I will never get back. :yawn:

Fife-Hibee
19-11-2019, 02:52 AM
Well well well, more anti-semitism....... in the tory party.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-50468770

marinello59
19-11-2019, 07:20 AM
Well well well, more anti-semitism....... in the tory party.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-50468770

Here's what Houghton is quoted as saying.


Ryan Houghton
I find no credible evidence to suggest the Holocaust did not happen. I think that's a baseline of historical fact, anyone who says otherwise. Stand by. But I do find some of the events fabricated and exagarated in some cases. As history is written by the victors there is always going to be a bit of 're-writing.'



Here's what you said recently.


Fife-Hibee
Whenever you hear about WW2 you will always hear about the mistreatment of Jewish people (and rightfully so). However, you almost never hear a thing about the way the Japanese treated war prisoners, which was utterly horrific. Perhaps the hushing up of it in the history books was all part and partial of their little deal with the US? You also hear very little about the way communists were treated and the huge influence they had on the overall outcome of the war.

The full focus is on Jewish people now, as if their lives somehow matter more than anybody elses. This in my view is by design. It's being used as a beating stick against anybody who speaks out about the agenda of the Israeli state and the strong media and political influences they have over other countries.

It looks like you two would get on just fine together.

Fife-Hibee
19-11-2019, 08:00 AM
Here's what Houghton is quoted as saying.



Here's what you said recently.



It looks like you two would get on just fine together.

Is this you suggesting that Jewish lives are more valuable than non-Jewish lives again? Pretty disgusting if so tbh.

Future17
19-11-2019, 08:55 AM
Is this you suggesting that Jewish lives are more valuable than non-Jewish lives again? Pretty disgusting if so tbh.

Honestly, are you incapable of giving your personal spin-machine a rest for just one moment? Perhaps you could use the time for some much-needed self-reflection.

Every so often your posts contain interesting observations or valid/arguable points, but I've started to tune out because I feel your hypocrisy and inability to take responsibility for your own words/actions suggests you are someone who isn't actually worth listening to.

Just my personal opinion, but I can't help but think you would benefit from spending less time on here, at least for a while.

Future17
19-11-2019, 10:38 AM
Honestly, are you incapable of giving your personal spin-machine a rest for just one moment? Perhaps you could use the time for some much-needed self-reflection.

Every so often your posts contain interesting observations or valid/arguable points, but I've started to tune out because I feel your hypocrisy and inability to take responsibility for your own words/actions suggests you are someone who isn't actually worth listening to.

Just my personal opinion, but I can't help but think you would benefit from spending less time on here, at least for a while.

And it appears someone agrees...:eek:

Moulin Yarns
19-11-2019, 12:54 PM
And it appears someone agrees...:eek:

I had to check. Overstepped the mark. Shame really.

cabbageandribs1875
23-11-2019, 07:39 PM
https://scontent.fman2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/78433530_2587458887966741_6241426764942278656_n.jp g?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ohc=q8sQkjlkWssAQk1zs7wPzRDTiHuztFqpLfu5tNrsgf t3XPjG-Gx9zkV_g&_nc_ht=scontent.fman2-2.fna&oh=d32438aefb5fd6e8b04fb4023ee7295b&oe=5E8075FE


adam tomkins again, for a professor he seriously comes out with some utter freakin nonsense, a total walloper of a man

as well as a hun bigot

Hibernia&Alba
23-11-2019, 09:04 PM
https://scontent.fman2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/78433530_2587458887966741_6241426764942278656_n.jp g?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ohc=q8sQkjlkWssAQk1zs7wPzRDTiHuztFqpLfu5tNrsgf t3XPjG-Gx9zkV_g&_nc_ht=scontent.fman2-2.fna&oh=d32438aefb5fd6e8b04fb4023ee7295b&oe=5E8075FE


adam tomkins again, for a professor he seriously comes out with some utter freakin nonsense, a total walloper of a man

as well as a hun bigot

What is he a professor of?

degenerated
23-11-2019, 09:20 PM
What is he a professor of?Hypocrisy and opportunism

It wasn't that long ago he was protesting with Colin Fox about the queen attending Holyrood opening and writing a book promoting an independent Scottish Republic. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191123/133f96d94d9131ee77df52465ab5bba4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191123/7d034fd67e9641401e8118f4ab7f4e8b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191123/dd2965eab658f4e9f50d9fc849ddf95e.jpg

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Ozyhibby
27-11-2019, 09:09 AM
I take it the Tories have benched Rees-mogg for the whole election? Hasn’t been heard of since his Grenfell comments?


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lapsedhibee
27-11-2019, 09:47 AM
I take it the Tories have benched Rees-mogg for the whole election? Hasn’t been heard of since his Grenfell comments?


Haven't seen much/anything of the rentagobby Bridgen or Francois either.

Hibrandenburg
27-11-2019, 10:55 AM
I take it the Tories have benched Rees-mogg for the whole election? Hasn’t been heard of since his Grenfell comments?


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His doorman is on holiday and he can't get out the house.

cabbageandribs1875
27-11-2019, 05:08 PM
What is he a professor of?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Millar_Professor_of_Law




he also tweeted how good it always is to beat a team in green after the vile hun clobbered us earlier in the season, how grown up for a man in his position

lapsedhibee
12-12-2019, 02:31 PM
"The Tories are sending targeted ads from the PM to voters in specific constituencies saying their seat is “one of the nine seats needed to Get Brexit Done” ... but they are sending them out to dozens of constituencies."

And the Guardian article goes on to name 40 or so constituencies.

An idea perhaps borrowed from Johnson himself when he's trying to make a potential new mother feel a bit more special than she actually is.

Callum_62
12-12-2019, 04:31 PM
How many votes does he get? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191212/0f427120ae1a9365aa3861f6d0b02a0d.jpg

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matty_f
12-12-2019, 04:56 PM
How many votes does he get? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191212/0f427120ae1a9365aa3861f6d0b02a0d.jpg

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Well that's interesting...

Imagine a Tory lying...

Moulin Yarns
18-12-2019, 03:49 PM
Oh look, a tory lie.


Just heard the Tories have already broken one of their election promises. They said they would BAN fracking in England and Wales. They have just said they will allow fracking. I hope the English and Welsh who voted Tory are pleased with themselves. 🤢🤢🤢

Hibernia&Alba
18-12-2019, 03:57 PM
Oh look, a tory lie.


Just heard the Tories have already broken one of their election promises. They said they would BAN fracking in England and Wales. They have just said they will allow fracking. I hope the English and Welsh who voted Tory are pleased with themselves. 🤢🤢🤢

Is this true? One DAY ONE of the new government.

cabbageandribs1875
18-12-2019, 04:21 PM
Oh look, a tory lie.


Just heard the Tories have already broken one of their election promises. They said they would BAN fracking in England and Wales. They have just said they will allow fracking. I hope the English and Welsh who voted Tory are pleased with themselves. ������


Disabled next on the hit list

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/pip-dwp-payment-number-2019-3654699?fbclid=IwAR1K5MsV15ropnAPEnn0qIbSqv9niYGTt KdRlaWyXGc-GAwT6MMxsgxXAYE

More than 650,000 disabled people living on benefits had their payments cut or stopped totally after moving to a new Tory system.

The new figures were released hours after Boris Johnson's majority was announced


Next........Pensioners, they're coming for you auld yins :agree:


no doubt some from both groups probably voted for they ****s as well, maybe less so in the first group right enough as they've probably been aware of what the tories had planned for them in regards to benefits :rolleyes: it's almost like some bizarre type of masochistic stockholm syndrome...or some description like that :)

marinello59
18-12-2019, 04:23 PM
Oh look, a tory lie.


Just heard the Tories have already broken one of their election promises. They said they would BAN fracking in England and Wales. They have just said they will allow fracking. I hope the English and Welsh who voted Tory are pleased with themselves. 🤢🤢🤢

They didn’t say they would ban it. They said they would temporarily suspend it until the science changed. Have they really moved from that position already?

lapsedhibee
18-12-2019, 04:27 PM
Oh look, a tory lie.


Just heard the Tories have already broken one of their election promises. They said they would BAN fracking in England and Wales. They have just said they will allow fracking. I hope the English and Welsh who voted Tory are pleased with themselves. ������

I don't see why they wouldn't be pleased with themselves. They voted in a known liar, and he's doing what he does best - lying. The will of the people is to be lied to. What's the issue? :dunno:

CloudSquall
18-12-2019, 07:18 PM
https://twitter.com/mikegalsworthy/status/1207241495809581061

Matt Hancock with some Yamanomics on nurse numbers :greengrin

Callum_62
19-12-2019, 12:57 AM
I see Britain first is trending on twitter

Urging there members to join the conservative party in order to 'make Boris Johnsons leadership more secure'

https://twitter.com/robm447/status/1207444951480569862?s=20

CraigyHibee07
19-12-2019, 01:44 AM
I see Britain first is trending on twitter

Urging there members to join the conservative party in order to 'make Boris Johnsons leadership more secure'

https://twitter.com/robm447/status/1207444951480569862?s=20

England is becoming more and more partisan. They're turning into the 51st state. Just hear any of the reasons down there why people switched from Labour to Conservative. It's as if they think Labour have been in power for the past 10 years. Blaming them for every tory failure during that time. I just can't get my head around it.

grunt
19-12-2019, 10:41 AM
This recent election has caused any number of Tory Government practices to surface; rules and requirements which have been implemented during their tenure but which don't seem to have made it to public consciousness. Here's another thing from the Hostile Environment Office which I didn't know.


High court says UK's £1,012 child citizenship fee is unlawful

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/19/high-court-says-uks-1012-child-citizenship-fee-is-unlawful (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/19/high-court-says-uks-1012-child-citizenship-fee-is-unlawful)

Cataplana
19-12-2019, 11:13 AM
England is becoming more and more partisan. They're turning into the 51st state. Just hear any of the reasons down there why people switched from Labour to Conservative. It's as if they think Labour have been in power for the past 10 years. Blaming them for every tory failure during that time. I just can't get my head around it.

They have only had free secondary education since the end of WW2.

CraigyHibee07
19-12-2019, 10:49 PM
Leader of Britain First 'Paul Golding' joins Katie Hopkins and Tommy Robinson in the tory party. Stating "Boris Johnson is like us".

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/paul-golding-conservatives-britain-first-boris-johnson-muslim-women-letterboxes-a9254061.html
(https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/paul-golding-conservatives-britain-first-boris-johnson-muslim-women-letterboxes-a9254061.html)
The scary thing is, he's right. Boris is just like them.

Cataplana
20-12-2019, 05:31 AM
Leader of Britain First 'Paul Golding' joins Katie Hopkins and Tommy Robinson in the tory party. Stating "Boris Johnson is like us".

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/paul-golding-conservatives-britain-first-boris-johnson-muslim-women-letterboxes-a9254061.html
(https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/paul-golding-conservatives-britain-first-boris-johnson-muslim-women-letterboxes-a9254061.html)
The scary thing is, he's right. Boris is just like them.

The article says his membership is likely to be revoked.

Hibernia&Alba
22-12-2019, 07:06 AM
John Pilger talks about his documentary The Dirty War on the NHS; privatisation by stealth, made possible by the 2012 Health and Social Care Act


https://youtu.be/rHZcXrc9_wk

Hibernia&Alba
22-12-2019, 07:08 AM
How the Act works and the Tory agenda behind it:


https://youtu.be/Cz5dl9fhj7o

lapsedhibee
23-12-2019, 12:17 PM
Downing Street has said the football authorities need to do more to tackle racism

Rich.

NORTHERNHIBBY
28-12-2019, 10:13 AM
See that Ian Duncan Smith has been awarded a knighthood for ìmplenting Universal Credit. My cynicism suggests that this is very much Establishment driven, and for an experiment against the weak and frail, I am sure that the men in stripey trousers will be roundly applauding this as well deserved.

Hibernia&Alba
28-12-2019, 10:59 AM
See that Ian Duncan Smith has been awarded a knighthood for ìmplenting Universal Credit. My cynicism suggests that this is very much Establishment driven, and for an experiment against the weak and frail, I am sure that the men in stripey trousers will be roundly applauding this as well deserved.

What a farce the honours system is. 'Sir' Ian Duncan-Smith, the man who refused to release the figures around how many people had committed suicide after being declared fit to work and removed from disability benefits. The man whose sanctions system created an explosion in the number of food banks. In true all Orwellian language these 'reforms' were designed to help people escape the 'trap' of welfare dependency. "Your benefits payments have been stopped, now you're free and no longer dependent. You should thank us". Utter ****.

Hibrandenburg
28-12-2019, 11:10 AM
What a farce the honours system is. 'Sir' Ian Duncan-Smith, the man who refused to release the figures around how many people had committed suicide after being declared fit to work and removed from disability benefits. The man whose sanctions system created an explosion in the number of food banks. In true all Orwellian language these 'reforms' were designed to help people escape the 'trap' of welfare dependency. "Your benefits payments have been stopped, now you're free and no longer dependent. You should thank us". Utter ****.

I can't get my head around why we as a society would award ****s like this for increasing the hardship for the weakest in our society and thus encouraging others to do so. The sooner Scotland is out of this corrupt and morally skewed union the better. Utterly despicable.

Mon Dieu4
28-12-2019, 11:17 AM
Harry Billinge a D Day veteran only got an MBE for raising funds for a British Normandy Memorial and then this **** gets a knighthood for making people's lives a misery:rolleyes:

Future17
28-12-2019, 11:43 AM
In a strange way, awards like this are a good thing if they make people realise how ridiculous the current awards system is.

Mon Dieu4
28-12-2019, 11:55 AM
In a strange way, awards like this are a good thing if they make people realise how ridiculous the current awards system is.

People already know how ridiculous they are, but like anything that happens here the majority of people just roll over and take it, I really wish we were more like the French when governments do something we don't agree with, go on strike, kick up a fuss and get them told

hibsbollah
28-12-2019, 12:28 PM
People already know how ridiculous they are, but like anything that happens here the majority of people just roll over and take it, I really wish we were more like the French when governments do something we don't agree with, go on strike, kick up a fuss and get them told

https://rochdaleherald.co.uk/2019/12/28/josef-fritzl-gets-knighthood-in-new-years-honours/

weecounty hibby
28-12-2019, 12:29 PM
Rich people who shift poor people giving awards to other rich people who shaft poor people. An unbelievably archaic system designed to give powerful people more power. Throw in the odd OBE to some sportspeople and the odd charity worker and the serfs will think it's ok. Pathetic and something that needs to be done away with.

Mibbes Aye
28-12-2019, 01:57 PM
IDS is pure ideological right-wingism, utterly destestable in its complete and utter disregard for the weak and vulnerable.

But I think the knighthood is more about him having been LOTO. There will be a peerage at some point, if he wants it, it is par for the course.

USAHibby
28-12-2019, 03:19 PM
Sign and pass it on - https://www.change.org/p/uk-government-and-parliament-we-object-to-iain-duncan-smith-receiving-a-knighthood.

cabbageandribs1875
28-12-2019, 03:26 PM
repugnant tory *******, IDS gives me IBS

NORTHERNHIBBY
28-12-2019, 03:36 PM
IDSS is nearer the mark. He is a very dangerous individual with some frightening ideas.

lapsedhibee
28-12-2019, 05:09 PM
repugnant tory *******, IDS gives me IBS
Speaking of repugnant Tories, looks like Michael Howard :jamboak: has been chosen to spearhead the drive to muzzle the law.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50933535

Smartie
28-12-2019, 06:14 PM
IDS knighted in advance for selfless, dedicated service to receiving dog turds through the post.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50929543

USAHibby
28-12-2019, 06:59 PM
IDS knighted in advance for selfless, dedicated service to receiving dog turds through the post. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50929543 The media keep referring to this as an awful blunder. What about the awful blunder of giving cold blooded murderers knighthoods? :confused:

ronaldo7
28-12-2019, 08:14 PM
I can't get my head around why we as a society would award ****s like this for increasing the hardship for the weakest in our society and thus encouraging others to do so. The sooner Scotland is out of this corrupt and morally skewed union the better. Utterly despicable.

Theirs that word "we", again.

Maybe the centrist, labour types who sat on their hands, whilst the Tories voted through the policies they now despise, will realise what they've done to their heartlands.

Some of the rest of us have moved on, and know we can make a better fist of a society which looks after people, rather than what IDS has done to them, with labour sanction.

xyz23jc
28-12-2019, 08:24 PM
Sign and pass it on - https://www.change.org/p/uk-government-and-parliament-we-object-to-iain-duncan-smith-receiving-a-knighthood.


:thumbsup::top marks

Hibernia&Alba
29-12-2019, 11:10 PM
Sign and pass it on - https://www.change.org/p/uk-government-and-parliament-we-object-to-iain-duncan-smith-receiving-a-knighthood.

Done.

Callum_62
29-12-2019, 11:15 PM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/private-firms-invited-run-nhs-21178712

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murray26
30-12-2019, 03:36 PM
Sign and pass it on - https://www.change.org/p/uk-government-and-parliament-we-object-to-iain-duncan-smith-receiving-a-knighthood.

Done.. repugnant man..

Cataplana
30-12-2019, 04:27 PM
I've always wondered how much IDS saved for the country following his benefit reforms.

On one hand we have a reduction in people entitled to benefit (a reduction I believe was not that great, because it turned out the majority of those claiming were entitled to what they were getting.)

On the other hand there is the amount shelled out to Atos, and Crapita, to deliver an assessment system that wasn't fit for purpose.

If Labour had been any use at all they could have exploited that.

Andy Bee
31-12-2019, 12:20 AM
I've always wondered how much IDS saved for the country following his benefit reforms.

On one hand we have a reduction in people entitled to benefit (a reduction I believe was not that great, because it turned out the majority of those claiming were entitled to what they were getting.)

On the other hand there is the amount shelled out to Atos, and Crapita, to deliver an assessment system that wasn't fit for purpose.

If Labour had been any use at all they could have exploited that.


If you consider the amount of appeals that resulted in overturning the initial decisions and rightly so I'd wager he actually cost the country, not to mention the stress and anxiety he caused, he's not fit for purpose, the thought of him getting a knighthood beggars belief, odious little cretin.

matty_f
31-12-2019, 08:01 AM
If you consider the amount of appeals that resulted in overturning the initial decisions and rightly so I'd wager he actually cost the country, not to mention the stress and anxiety he caused, he's not fit for purpose, the thought of him getting a knighthood beggars belief, odious little cretin.

It's disgusting, he's caused loads of suffering to loads of people. He's utterly without compassion, as Tory as Tory can be.

Bristolhibby
31-12-2019, 09:51 AM
It's disgusting, he's caused loads of suffering to loads of people. He's utterly without compassion, as Tory as Tory can be.

Peak Tory.

Also giving him a Knighthood is a Peak Tory act.

They just don’t give a **** what people think.

J

Hibrandenburg
31-12-2019, 09:55 AM
Peak Tory.

Also giving him a Knighthood is a Peak Tory act.

They just don’t give a **** what people think.

J

People obviously approve, otherwise they wouldn't keep voting them in and that's what I can't get my head around.

Cataplana
31-12-2019, 12:57 PM
People obviously approve, otherwise they wouldn't keep voting them in and that's what I can't get my head around.

"One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision."

Bertrand Russell

If you are too stupid to understand that you constantly get it wrong, you will find it easy to keep repeating the mistake. Stupid people think they are geniuses.

Colr
31-12-2019, 08:07 PM
"One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision."

Bertrand Russell

If you are too stupid to understand that you constantly get it wrong, you will find it easy to keep repeating the mistake. Stupid people think they are geniuses.

This is a great comfort to those of us who are racked with self doubt!!

Bangkok Hibby
01-01-2020, 08:10 AM
People obviously approve, otherwise they wouldn't keep voting them in and that's what I can't get my head around.

This in a nutshell is my major problem with the UK. Awash with selfish, right wing leaning, unfeeling, insular, gullible twats who can't see past the latest xenophobic headline in the Mail.

lapsedhibee
01-01-2020, 08:30 AM
This in a nutshell is my major problem with the UK. Awash with selfish, right wing leaning, unfeeling, insular, gullible twats who can't see past the latest xenophobic headline in the Mail.

Not sure what you mean. (https://twitter.com/MarieAnnUK/status/1211616079581196288)

Bangkok Hibby
01-01-2020, 08:49 AM
Not sure what you mean. (https://twitter.com/MarieAnnUK/status/1211616079581196288)

Haha, crazy old bat but something lovely about her too. 😄

Cataplana
01-01-2020, 08:50 AM
This is a great comfort to those of us who are racked with self doubt!!

I'm not so sure about that.

Moulin Yarns
26-01-2020, 01:04 PM
Not a post about tory lies but highlights the failure of tory policies.


https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/the-death-of-errol-graham-latest-tragedy-is-linked-to-10-years-of-dwp-deaths/

Moulin Yarns
29-01-2020, 04:41 PM
This has to be a tory lie.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-51298820

lapsedhibee
29-01-2020, 04:53 PM
This has to be a tory lie.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-51298820

Marxists!

Mibbes Aye
29-01-2020, 04:57 PM
This has to be a tory lie.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-51298820

I am no more a Tory than you are but they do seem to be genuinely nationalising the service.

Through the looking glass etc etc but also a hallmark reminder that when you are in power, ideology submits to pragmatism.

Callum_62
30-01-2020, 11:30 AM
How many times have we heard austerity is over in the past 6 months?

Turns out, no it isnae

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/sajid-javid-abandons-pledge-end-21389005.amp?__twitter_impression=true

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RyeSloan
30-01-2020, 02:41 PM
How many times have we heard austerity is over in the past 6 months?

Turns out, no it isnae

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/sajid-javid-abandons-pledge-end-21389005.amp?__twitter_impression=true

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Or the government is checking what it is spending your money on and wants to make sure it’s being spent in the best way.

Depends on how you want to spin it I suppose.

But on the face of it it’s not really a ridiculous concept for a new government to review what its departments are spending to see if some of that current spending can be reassigned to their new priorities.

The alternative is they just lump more spending on top of current spending without challenging what that is.

weecounty hibby
30-01-2020, 02:57 PM
Or the government is checking what it is spending your money on and wants to make sure it’s being spent in the best way.

Depends on how you want to spin it I suppose.

But on the face of it it’s not really a ridiculous concept for a new government to review what its departments are spending to see if some of that current spending can be reassigned to their new priorities.

The alternative is they just lump more spending on top of current spending without challenging what that is.
Not really a new government though is it. They have been in power for a decade now sadly. Austerity for all, except ****ers like Rees Mogg who have their businesses registered in tax havens.

Ozyhibby
30-01-2020, 03:35 PM
I am no more a Tory than you are but they do seem to be genuinely nationalising the service.

Through the looking glass etc etc but also a hallmark reminder that when you are in power, ideology submits to pragmatism.

When the railways were nationalised before they were terrible and nobody used them. If they are just going to nationalise then then I think it’s a mistake. I don’t think that’s what they will be doing long term though.
I think they might get rid of the franchise system and have a more competitive set up with different companies running different services.


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Just Alf
30-01-2020, 05:26 PM
Not really a new government though is it. They have been in power for a decade now sadly. Austerity for all, except ****ers like Rees Mogg who have their businesses registered in tax havens.And because of Brexit he will still not have to pay millions in tax.


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Ozyhibby
03-02-2020, 02:23 PM
Johnson now wants to hand pick his own journalists.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/feb/03/brexit-news-boris--johnson-speech-barnier-cabinet-ministers-claims-uk-does-not-need-trade-deal-with-eu-ahead-of-pms-speech-live-news?CMP=twt_gu&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true

This is how dictatorships start.


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grunt
03-02-2020, 04:18 PM
But on the face of it it’s not really a ridiculous concept for a new government to review what its departments are spending to see if some of that current spending can be reassigned to their new priorities.

The lying Tories have been in power in the UK Government since 2010. You'd have thought they'd know what they spent our money on by now? I'm afraid your post seems to have bought the Johnson lie that this is now a "new" Government, trying to put right all the terrible injustices done by the previous Government. It's a lie, but it seems to have some traction.

weecounty hibby
03-02-2020, 06:18 PM
The lying Tories have been in power in the UK Government since 2010. You'd have thought they'd know what they spent our money on by now? I'm afraid your post seems to have bought the Johnson lie that this is now a "new" Government, trying to put right all the terrible injustices done by the previous Government. It's a lie, but it seems to have some traction.
There are it seems some lies that are ok to be believed

Pretty Boy
03-02-2020, 06:53 PM
Johnson now wants to hand pick his own journalists.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/feb/03/brexit-news-boris--johnson-speech-barnier-cabinet-ministers-claims-uk-does-not-need-trade-deal-with-eu-ahead-of-pms-speech-live-news?CMP=twt_gu&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true

This is how dictatorships start.


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I was just about to post this. It's quite scary, even more so when you read people on social media praising him for showing 'tough leadership' and 'real strength'. Whilst the journalists excluded seem to have been from the more left leaning press it's heartening to see their peers from the likes of the Telegraph and the Mail boycott in support.

weecounty hibby
03-02-2020, 07:39 PM
Is anyone surprised that this is happening? Right wing press almost a huge propoganda machine for the Tories. Little challenge to anything said by them, complete character assassination of Corbyn, Laura Kuenssberg, Andrew Neil, Pearce Morgan etc. They have been allowed to ride roughshod over thruth and facts by these people and now clearly believe that they can just ban anyone who won't play their game. Dictatorship in the making due to the huge majority and utter arrogance throughout that party

Mibbes Aye
03-02-2020, 08:18 PM
Is anyone surprised that this is happening? Right wing press almost a huge propoganda machine for the Tories. Little challenge to anything said by them, complete character assassination of Corbyn, Laura Kuenssberg, Andrew Neil, Pearce Morgan etc. They have been allowed to ride roughshod over thruth and facts by these people and now clearly believe that they can just ban anyone who won't play their game. Dictatorship in the making due to the huge majority and utter arrogance throughout that party

Laura Kuenssberg was one of the journalists who walked out in boycott at the attempt to stop other journos attending.

Just Alf
03-02-2020, 08:30 PM
I was just about to post this. It's quite scary, even more so when you read people on social media praising him for showing 'tough leadership' and 'real strength'. Whilst the journalists excluded seem to have been from the more left leaning press it's heartening to see their peers from the likes of the Telegraph and the Mail boycott in support.When you add in their policy of reducing the ability for the courts to intervene in political decisions it doesn't seem to bode well :-/

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weecounty hibby
03-02-2020, 08:34 PM
[QUOTE=Mibbes Aye;6072151]Laura Kuenssberg was one of the journalists who walked out in boycott at the attempt to stop other journos attending.[/QUOTE

Bully for her, she did her job during the election. The use of "sources" by her was a disgrace. She used uncorroborated gossip as fact and all to the benefit of the Tories

grunt
03-02-2020, 09:17 PM
I was just about to post this. It's quite scary, even more so when you read people on social media praising him for showing 'tough leadership' and 'real strength'. I struggle to believe that many of these social media posts are from real people. I'm astonished that no one has sought to act to stop fake Twitter (in particular) accounts posting supportive comments - on all sides of every debate. There surely can't be that many idiots around. Can there?

Ozyhibby
04-02-2020, 09:03 AM
https://twitter.com/mrmichaelspicer/status/1224619601738137600?s=21

Priti Patel at her very best.[emoji23]


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lapsedhibee
04-02-2020, 09:20 AM
https://twitter.com/mrmichaelspicer/status/1224619601738137600?s=21

Priti Patel at her very best.[emoji23]

It's logical.
If folk in Norwich stairs shouldn't have to speak in English, why should Government Ministers? :dunno:

Hibby Bairn
04-02-2020, 10:44 AM
https://twitter.com/mrmichaelspicer/status/1224619601738137600?s=21

Priti Patel at her very best.[emoji23]


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Very funny. I’ve watched a few of his videos. Brilliant satire.

Ozyhibby
04-02-2020, 11:33 AM
Turns out that not a single journalist from a Scottish newspaper was allowed into the PM’s briefing yesterday.



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Ozyhibby
04-02-2020, 01:24 PM
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Kato
04-02-2020, 04:50 PM
I struggle to believe that many of these social media posts are from real people. I'm astonished that no one has sought to act to stop fake Twitter (in particular) accounts posting supportive comments - on all sides of every debate. There surely can't be that many idiots around. Can there?25% of English voters trust any political message if its delivered with a posh accent. There 10-12 million thickos right there.

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Ozyhibby
04-02-2020, 10:10 PM
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Radium
04-02-2020, 10:23 PM
Is anyone surprised that this is happening? Right wing press almost a huge propoganda machine for the Tories. Little challenge to anything said by them, complete character assassination of Corbyn, Laura Kuenssberg, Andrew Neil, Pearce Morgan etc. They have been allowed to ride roughshod over thruth and facts by these people and now clearly believe that they can just ban anyone who won't play their game. Dictatorship in the making due to the huge majority and utter arrogance throughout that party

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200204/960565528e899f66faeb948a9bdc6355.jpg

Piers Morgan is no role model but on this he is challenging BJ.



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lapsedhibee
04-02-2020, 10:33 PM
Piers Morgan is no role model but on this he is challenging BJ.


No good Andrew Neil on his own, Piers Morgan on his own, calling out Johnson for his scrutiny-avoiding. The whole MSM, including Kuenssberg, the Mail and Telegraph have to do it, relentlessly, for it to have any chance of success.

Mr Grieves
06-02-2020, 09:46 AM
That's the Scottish tories saviour, Ruth Davidson, off to the unelected Lords.

Ozyhibby
06-02-2020, 09:54 AM
That's the Scottish tories saviour, Ruth Davidson, off to the unelected Lords.

She’ll be Secretary of State for Scotland before you know it. Democracy is on the ropes in Scotland.


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JeMeSouviens
10-02-2020, 11:07 AM
The Sun's pol ed Tom Newton-Dunn on twitter says "work is underway" in Whitehall to scope Johnson's bizarre Scotland-Ireland bridge plan. Is there anybody out there that thinks this isn't a totally barking white elephant? :confused:

I suppose they'll need someone to drive the project forwards. What's Chris Grayling up to these days? :wink:

Kato
10-02-2020, 11:22 AM
The Sun's pol ed Tom Newton-Dunn on twitter says "work is underway" in Whitehall to scope Johnson's bizarre Scotland-Ireland bridge plan. Is there anybody out there that thinks this isn't a totally barking white elephant? :confused:

I suppose they'll need someone to drive the project forwards. What's Chris Grayling up to these days? :wink:No danger of the bridge being built. It's an online exercise to get the phrases "Boris Johnson" and "building bridges" into Googles' search logarithm.

That doesn't mean he won't shift millions of pounds of public cash into the consultants' bank accounts.

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Ozyhibby
10-02-2020, 11:26 AM
The Sun's pol ed Tom Newton-Dunn on twitter says "work is underway" in Whitehall to scope Johnson's bizarre Scotland-Ireland bridge plan. Is there anybody out there that thinks this isn't a totally barking white elephant? :confused:

I suppose they'll need someone to drive the project forwards. What's Chris Grayling up to these days? :wink:

I actually love the idea. I know it would never pass any kind of cost benefit analysis but neither would HS2. In fact half the railways in Britain would never have been built if modern risk assessment methods had applied.
There are obviously massive technical aspects to be overcome but we never used to shy away from such challenges. Being able to get a train from Edinburgh to Dublin or Belfast in a few hours has massive appeal though. On the whole, very few societies ever regret building a bridge.


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The_Exile
10-02-2020, 11:37 AM
The topography of the seabed and it's considerable depth (almost twice as deep as the English channel) make it a ridiculous idea that would cost a jaw-dropping amount of money to make possible. Not to mention the small matter of over a million tons of munitions dumped in Beaufort Dyke.

Ozyhibby
10-02-2020, 11:38 AM
The topography of the seabed and it's considerable depth (almost twice as deep as the English channel) make it a ridiculous idea that would cost a jaw-dropping amount of money to make possible. Not to mention the small matter of over a million tons of munitions dumped in Beaufort Dyke.

It doesn’t have to go across Beaufort dyke if another route is taken.


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The_Exile
10-02-2020, 11:55 AM
It doesn’t have to go across Beaufort dyke if another route is taken.


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Do you mean down through Tarbert and past Campbeltown? I'm not super familiar with that area but I know it's not flat and is fairly hilly. Again, that would cost an absolute fortune to get the infrastructure in place in this kind of terrain. I just can't ever see it happening due to cost and intense complications the entire project would inevitably contain.

Ozyhibby
10-02-2020, 12:04 PM
Do you mean down through Tarbert and past Campbeltown? I'm not super familiar with that area but I know it's not flat and is fairly hilly. Again, that would cost an absolute fortune to get the infrastructure in place in this kind of terrain. I just can't ever see it happening due to cost and intense complications the entire project would inevitably contain.

I saw an article once that suggested three bridges crossing to Arran, Campbeltown and then over to NI. No idea how complex all this would be.


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JeMeSouviens
10-02-2020, 12:12 PM
Do you mean down through Tarbert and past Campbeltown? I'm not super familiar with that area but I know it's not flat and is fairly hilly. Again, that would cost an absolute fortune to get the infrastructure in place in this kind of terrain. I just can't ever see it happening due to cost and intense complications the entire project would inevitably contain.

Campbeltown is about a 3 hour drive from Glasgow (even on the rare occasions the A83 isn't closed by landslides at the rest and be thankful) so that would be a total non-starter.

One Day Soon
10-02-2020, 12:19 PM
I actually love the idea. I know it would never pass any kind of cost benefit analysis but neither would HS2. In fact half the railways in Britain would never have been built if modern risk assessment methods had applied.
There are obviously massive technical aspects to be overcome but we never used to shy away from such challenges. Being able to get a train from Edinburgh to Dublin or Belfast in a few hours has massive appeal though. On the whole, very few societies ever regret building a bridge.


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I think that's generally true. However if I was looking to bind the UK together with infrastructural glue I'd start with an immediate commitment to extend HS2 to Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen.

Ozyhibby
10-02-2020, 12:19 PM
Campbeltown is about a 3 hour drive from Glasgow (even on the rare occasions the A83 isn't closed by landslides at the rest and be thankful) so that would be a total non-starter.

Yip, I think that route would be a definite non starter.


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Mr Grieves
10-02-2020, 12:56 PM
Boris Johnson has a crap record when it comes to building bridges.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-london-47228698?__twitter_impression=true


It's never going to happen.

CloudSquall
10-02-2020, 01:00 PM
It would be highly amusing if the UK paid for a bridge that would eventually link a united Ireland with an independent Scotland.

Radium
10-02-2020, 01:16 PM
The Sun's pol ed Tom Newton-Dunn on twitter says "work is underway" in Whitehall to scope Johnson's bizarre Scotland-Ireland bridge plan. Is there anybody out there that thinks this isn't a totally barking white elephant? :confused:

I suppose they'll need someone to drive the project forwards. What's Chris Grayling up to these days? :wink:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200210/3ec87302c0ce81b76e7d443cab6a9aaa.jpg

Straight over to Belfast, over the trench we dumped a million tons of munitions (Beaufords Dyke) in, or island hopping from Greenock, down the Kintyre peninsular and over ?



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Ozyhibby
10-02-2020, 01:56 PM
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Straight over to Belfast, over the trench we dumped a million tons of munitions (Beaufords Dyke) in, or island hopping from Greenock, down the Kintyre peninsular and over ?



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I think once engineers say this is possible it will then become a political decision. The cost will be ignored by Johnson as it’s not his money and what price saving the union anyway.


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Smartie
10-02-2020, 02:06 PM
I’ve never Before noticed how close that part of Scotland is to Ireland.

JeMeSouviens
10-02-2020, 02:32 PM
I’ve never Before noticed how close that part of Scotland is to Ireland.

It's only about 10 miles from the Mull of Kintyre to the Antrim coast, it looks quite close. There was briefly a car ferry from Campbeltown but it never really took off.

Dan Sarf
10-02-2020, 02:51 PM
It's only about 10 miles from the Mull of Kintyre to the Antrim coast, it looks quite close. There was briefly a car ferry from Campbeltown but it never really took off.


Just as well! :tee hee:






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Hibrandenburg
10-02-2020, 03:43 PM
I’ve never Before noticed how close that part of Scotland is to Ireland.

On a clear day you can easily see the mainland across the water.

Just Alf
10-02-2020, 03:50 PM
That'll be the deficit for a possible future indy Scotland through the roof then!

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Renfrew_Hibby
10-02-2020, 05:26 PM
Campbeltown is about a 3 hour drive from Glasgow (even on the rare occasions the A83 isn't closed by landslides at the rest and be thankful) so that would be a total non-starter.

Why no government has built a tunnel at the Rest is beyond me.
Yes it would be costly but the A83 is thee major trunk for a huge rea of communities and tunnels like this are common place in Europe.

JeMeSouviens
10-02-2020, 05:33 PM
Why no government has built a tunnel at the Rest is beyond me.
Yes it would be costly but the A83 is thee major trunk for a huge rea of communities and tunnels like this are common place in Europe.

:agree:

Throwing good money after bad, I wonder how much of the cost of a permanent solution they've spent in piecemeal work there?

RyeSloan
10-02-2020, 05:47 PM
I’ve never Before noticed how close that part of Scotland is to Ireland.

Just a shame that part of Scotland is not close to anything else!

Mr Grieves
10-02-2020, 07:22 PM
Couple of whoppers from the tories -

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/10/checks-on-eu-bound-goods-inevitable-gove-tells-business-leaders?CMP=share_btn_tw&__twitter_impression=true

Michael Gove has told businesses that trade with Europe they need to prepare for “significant change” with “inevitable” border checks for “almost everybody” who imports from the EU from next year.

https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/eu-referendum/two-tier-brexit-food-standards-system-unacceptable-nfus-warns

During a session on how UK government policy will affect Scottish farming at the NFUS annual conference on Thursday (6 February), a farmer asked Mr Ross if imported foods would have to meet the same high standards as food produced on UK farms.

The MP replied: “There are ongoing discussions on this point. [International trade secretary] Liz Truss has been just announcing some things today.

“Ultimately, it’s up to the market and if products come in like that, I am reassured that consumers will know which are the best products to purchase.”

Farmers in the audience at the conference in Glasgow roundly jeered Mr Ross for his comments.

He went on: “They will be reassured that the produce from Scottish farmers and UK farmers is of a significant standard, that they would not want to buy chlorinated chicken, or hormone-induced beef.

“It is an issue that we are looking at in any [trade] deals going forward and it’s one at the very top of the agenda for ministers across various departments who are looking at this.”


Frictionless trade, less red tape, maintaining high standards - its all ****ing bull****.

Ozyhibby
10-02-2020, 07:27 PM
Couple of whoppers from the tories -

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/10/checks-on-eu-bound-goods-inevitable-gove-tells-business-leaders?CMP=share_btn_tw&__twitter_impression=true

Michael Gove has told businesses that trade with Europe they need to prepare for “significant change” with “inevitable” border checks for “almost everybody” who imports from the EU from next year.

https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/eu-referendum/two-tier-brexit-food-standards-system-unacceptable-nfus-warns

During a session on how UK government policy will affect Scottish farming at the NFUS annual conference on Thursday (6 February), a farmer asked Mr Ross if imported foods would have to meet the same high standards as food produced on UK farms.

The MP replied: “There are ongoing discussions on this point. [International trade secretary] Liz Truss has been just announcing some things today.

“Ultimately, it’s up to the market and if products come in like that, I am reassured that consumers will know which are the best products to purchase.”

Farmers in the audience at the conference in Glasgow roundly jeered Mr Ross for his comments.

He went on: “They will be reassured that the produce from Scottish farmers and UK farmers is of a significant standard, that they would not want to buy chlorinated chicken, or hormone-induced beef.

“It is an issue that we are looking at in any [trade] deals going forward and it’s one at the very top of the agenda for ministers across various departments who are looking at this.”


Frictionless trade, less red tape, maintaining high standards - its all ****ing bull****.

‘Significant change’ and ‘inevitable border checks for almost everybody’ sounds quite intrusive and not at all frictionless. And whatever happens at Dover has to happen at Stranraer. NI unionists are not going to be happy.


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Slavers
10-02-2020, 07:31 PM
Boris Johnson has a crap record when it comes to building bridges.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-london-47228698?__twitter_impression=true


It's never going to happen.

Boris is showing great leadership by building bridges between nations and not putting up divisive borders.... take note SNP and Nicola Sturgeon.

Mr Grieves
10-02-2020, 07:33 PM
‘Significant change’ and ‘inevitable border checks for almost everybody’ sounds quite intrusive and not at all frictionless. And whatever happens at Dover has to happen at Stranraer. NI unionists are not going to be happy.


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There'll be border checks on this new bridge! :greengrin

weecounty hibby
10-02-2020, 07:46 PM
Boris is showing great leadership by building bridges between nations and not putting up divisive borders.... take note SNP and Nicola Sturgeon.

He couldn't manage to build a bridge between London and erm another bit of London. It is all just bluff, absolutely no chance that there will be a bridge between Scotland and Ireland. Especially as by the time it takes to plan, and execute a project on that scale both will be independent nations free from Westminster.

Callum_62
10-02-2020, 07:50 PM
Boris is showing great leadership by building bridges between nations and not putting up divisive borders.... take note SNP and Nicola Sturgeon.Oh Slavers.

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Ozyhibby
10-02-2020, 08:00 PM
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Killjoy.[emoji35]


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CloudSquall
10-02-2020, 08:29 PM
There is a dark side of me that is looking foward to tory voting fisherman in the North East and tory voting farmers in the south seeing their chickens coming home to roost.

That dark side of me is also looking forward to the likes of Douglas Ross and David Mundell try to defend the **** show once it hits.

Kato
10-02-2020, 09:11 PM
Boris is showing great leadership by building bridges between nations and not putting up divisive borders.... take note SNP and Nicola Sturgeon.Aye, Cheesy Quavers, not like you to come up with obvious fale ness angle.

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JeMeSouviens
11-02-2020, 09:01 AM
There is a dark side of me that is looking foward to tory voting fisherman in the North East and tory voting farmers in the south seeing their chickens coming home to roost.

That dark side of me is also looking forward to the likes of Douglas Ross and David Mundell try to defend the **** show once it hits.

Yeah, if it was only Brexiters who lost their jobs or saw their businesses fail, it wouldn't be such a bad thing.

JeMeSouviens
11-02-2020, 09:05 AM
It would be highly amusing if the UK paid for a bridge that would eventually link a united Ireland with an independent Scotland.

Thinking about this, it's kind of ironic that the circumstance in which this grand projet might make sense is if RoI/NI/Scotland are all in the single market and England and Wales aren't. If Johnson can get it ready for independence day, then ok, maybe not a totally stupid idea.

Does anyone know if the £20 Bn estimated price tag (I'm presuming this is a total guess anyway and would in reality be overrun multiple times) is supposed to include the costs of upgrading road and rail links (currently woefully inadequate) from central Scotland to the bridge? Also, anyone know what the road/rail situation is like on the Irish side?

Ozyhibby
11-02-2020, 11:42 AM
Thinking about this, it's kind of ironic that the circumstance in which this grand projet might make sense is if RoI/NI/Scotland are all in the single market and England and Wales aren't. If Johnson can get it ready for independence day, then ok, maybe not a totally stupid idea.

Does anyone know if the £20 Bn estimated price tag (I'm presuming this is a total guess anyway and would in reality be overrun multiple times) is supposed to include the costs of upgrading road and rail links (currently woefully inadequate) from central Scotland to the bridge? Also, anyone know what the road/rail situation is like on the Irish side?

Road and rail in NI is pretty poor once you get out of Belfast.


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JeMeSouviens
11-02-2020, 11:55 AM
Apparently Cummings is losing a lot of the internal Tory battles. He has so far failed to get:

- Javid sacked or moved in reshuffle
- HS2 scrapped
- 10 Downing St internally restructured to an open plan office with him and Johnson at the centre
- his choice (Andy Haldane) appointed as BoE governor
- clearance to recruit his own civil servants outside the usual structures

Looks like they used him to win the election but are now trying to sideline him. What a shame.

He is also raging (but in this case all the Tories are) that they have to follow due legal process to deport immigrants with criminal convictions to Jamaica (some of whom arrived in the UK as young as 2).

JeMeSouviens
13-02-2020, 10:02 AM
I heard this covered on Radio Scotland on the way into work this morning where they managed to talk about it for a few minutes without mentioning which party said councillor represented. Coincidentally I'm sure. :rolleyes:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-51487701

weecounty hibby
13-02-2020, 10:53 AM
I heard this covered on Radio Scotland on the way into work this morning where they managed to talk about it for a few minutes without mentioning which party said councillor represented. Coincidentally I'm sure. :rolleyes:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-51487701
Two wrongs don't make a right as they say but the way the two cases recently have been handled have not been consistent. I realise that a government minister is higher up the tree than a local councillor but it has been totally off the scale and I don't see Murdo and Jackson getting all worked up about someone who was actually convicted of sexual assault. It is pretty crap to see stuff like this politicised as there are low life's in every party and organisation.
It's just one reason that I can't stand the peado **** at football. Hibbies seem to forget that we had Gordon Neily (sp?) at the club. These people are everywhere sadly and trying to score political or football points using them is pretty low

SHODAN
13-02-2020, 11:10 AM
Apparently Cummings is losing a lot of the internal Tory battles. He has so far failed to get:

- Javid sacked or moved in reshuffle
- HS2 scrapped
- 10 Downing St internally restructured to an open plan office with him and Johnson at the centre
- his choice (Andy Haldane) appointed as BoE governor
- clearance to recruit his own civil servants outside the usual structures

Looks like they used him to win the election but are now trying to sideline him. What a shame.

He is also raging (but in this case all the Tories are) that they have to follow due legal process to deport immigrants with criminal convictions to Jamaica (some of whom arrived in the UK as young as 2).

Well, he's got the first one done now.

CloudSquall
13-02-2020, 11:27 AM
Javid leaving seems to have caught everyone off guard in the media, the belief was Cummings had been sidelined but it seems Javid may have jumped due to number 10 wanting more control over number 11.

JeMeSouviens
13-02-2020, 11:34 AM
Javid leaving seems to have caught everyone off guard in the media, the belief was Cummings had been sidelined but it seems Javid may have jumped due to number 10 wanting more control over number 11.

According to the Guardian, Javid was told to sack all his special advisers and resigned instead.

CloudSquall
13-02-2020, 11:56 AM
New chancellor and a complete shake up of the relationship between Number 10 and 11, four weeks out from the budget while Holyrood's budget is still locked in at the "wait and see" stage due to the wait.


#strongandstableUK

Ozyhibby
13-02-2020, 12:32 PM
Cummings is pretty much the new chancellor. New guy is a convenient yes man.
Banning the press, centralising power. I’m sure it will all be fine.


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Ozyhibby
13-02-2020, 05:16 PM
Another new housing minister now as well. That makes it 19 in the last 23 years. Really taking the housing crisis seriously. [emoji23]


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NORTHERNHIBBY
13-02-2020, 05:20 PM
So much for a minor shuffle. This is a shameful power grab driven by the dangerous Dominic Cummings. The sacking of Julian Smith is a disgrace.

Smartie
13-02-2020, 07:08 PM
So much for a minor shuffle. This is a shameful power grab driven by the dangerous Dominic Cummings. The sacking of Julian Smith is a disgrace.

Whilst I’m very far from being a Tory myself I’ve always viewed them as a weird schizophrenic entity with half of them being almost ok and half of them being genuinely nasty headbangers.

It is sad and in no small way worrying to see anyone half decent being purged as they settle on being the evil lunatic far right shower of *******s that I have on occasion argued that they are not.

I don’t exactly mourn the loss of the ex-chancellor, but the circumstances surrounding his departure and that of Smith are both deeply worrying.

After all that howling about democracy it is interesting to see the power invested in Dominic Cummings.

Hibrandenburg
13-02-2020, 07:14 PM
Just one more lie amongst many. Cut to 31:50

https://youtu.be/jLNQ4N9pEdc

DaveF
13-02-2020, 07:50 PM
Just one more lie amongst many. Cut to 31:50

https://youtu.be/jLNQ4N9pEdc

He only gave a categorical assurance he would keep Javid.

That's not really a whopper 🙄

lapsedhibee
13-02-2020, 08:10 PM
So much for a minor shuffle. This is a shameful power grab driven by the dangerous Dominic Cummings. The sacking of Julian Smith is a disgrace.

Re-election campaign has started for 2024. Just getting a united team together. If things don't look so rosy next year, maybe have a war with Spain over Gibraltar, something like that. Cummings knows (perhaps only?) how to run a winning campaign.

CloudSquall
13-02-2020, 08:27 PM
The new Chancellor has quite an awkward job on his hands explaining why he is ok working under circumstances that his predecessor said were unacceptable.

RyeSloan
13-02-2020, 09:34 PM
The new Chancellor has quite an awkward job on his hands explaining why he is ok working under circumstances that his predecessor said were unacceptable.

Don’t think he does really. Will take his press secretary two minutes to knock up something along the following:

“I’m happy to take the job and see the teams at No10 and No11 working closer together as a good, positive step. That wasn’t to the liking of my predecessor which was obviously his decision to make, that just happens to be one I don’t agree with”

Obviously it politics so doesn’t matter if it’s true or not [emoji2957]

Kato
14-02-2020, 12:33 AM
Whilst I’m very far from being a Tory myself I’ve always viewed them as a weird schizophrenic entity with half of them being almost ok and half of them being genuinely nasty headbangers.

It is sad and in no small way worrying to see anyone half decent being purged as they settle on being the evil lunatic far right shower of *******s that I have on occasion argued that they are not.

I don’t exactly mourn the loss of the ex-chancellor, but the circumstances surrounding his departure and that of Smith are both deeply worrying.

After all that howling about democracy it is interesting to see the power invested in Dominic Cummings.

The bad yins were on the fringes of that party in the nineties. They're not only in charge now but are seen as the norm and portrayed as cuddly "celebrities". Swivel eyed monsters the lot of them.

Cataplana
14-02-2020, 09:27 AM
Is there any requirement, legal or otherwise, for a Prime Minister to govern the country by a cabinet system? Taking the treasury under his wing may be the first step to Boris ruling like a president.

RyeSloan
14-02-2020, 11:44 AM
Is there any requirement, legal or otherwise, for a Prime Minister to govern the country by a cabinet system? Taking the treasury under his wing may be the first step to Boris ruling like a president.

You mean like watching Fox News and sending out random tweets all night?

NORTHERNHIBBY
14-02-2020, 03:08 PM
Is there any requirement, legal or otherwise, for a Prime Minister to govern the country by a cabinet system? Taking the treasury under his wing may be the first step to Boris ruling like a president.


If you swap "a" president, to " the " president, it all becomes an awful lot clearer.

CloudSquall
14-02-2020, 03:28 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/PhantomPower14/status/1228347526140526597


"I understand the SNP. It’s not really a political party, it’s an evangelical faith based cult’


Carlaw's winning hearts and minds from day one :greengrin

CloudSquall
14-02-2020, 03:47 PM
Annie Wells appointed deputy leader for the Scottish Tories.

An absolute Staunch appointment that will be sure to please the Loyal faithful, no surrender to the taigs I mean SNP with this appointment :agree:

weecounty hibby
14-02-2020, 04:19 PM
Jackson Carlaw and Annie Wells what a pairing. It could only be better if Murdo Fraser had been given a leading roll. I see some unionists on twitter, I know I know, saying what a great appointment and go get her Jackson. Wow have they actually watched any Scottish politics?

Curried
14-02-2020, 04:19 PM
Only one man can save the Union:

https://www.yes.scot/tory-ad-campaign/

Moulin Yarns
14-02-2020, 04:42 PM
‘I understand the SNP. It’s not really a political party, it’s an evangelical faith based cult’
Great start from Jackson Carlaw as he attempts get SNP voters under his spell @ScotTories https://t.co/B7gJs3BAtr

jonty
14-02-2020, 07:13 PM
‘I understand the SNP. It’s not really a political party, it’s an evangelical faith based cult’
Great start from Jackson Carlaw as he attempts get SNP voters under his spell @ScotTories https://t.co/B7gJs3BAtr

And he wont get pulled up for this crap. Thats how normalised this bull**** has become

xyz23jc
14-02-2020, 07:16 PM
And he wont get pulled up for this crap. Thats how normalised this bull**** has become

Not surprised in any way shape or form. Par for the course! No more than we deserve TBH.

Kato
14-02-2020, 07:28 PM
‘I understand the SNP. It’s not really a political party, it’s an evangelical faith based cult’
Great start from Jackson Carlaw as he attempts get SNP voters under his spell @ScotTories https://t.co/B7gJs3BAtr

From a party whose main campaigning tactic is to wave a red white and flag in people's faces and scream what a great country we live in when in fact huge swathes of it are third world.


Is this the guy whose family became rich trafficking illegal opiates?

weecounty hibby
14-02-2020, 08:16 PM
‘I understand the SNP. It’s not really a political party, it’s an evangelical faith based cult’
Great start from Jackson Carlaw as he attempts get SNP voters under his spell @ScotTories https://t.co/B7gJs3BAtr
It is a disgraceful comment to make and he is totally pandering to the WATP rule brittania brigade. The faith based comment is imo implying a Catholic conspiracy amongst the SNP. I am from what would be called a Protestant family background but don't actually believe in any religion, neither does my wife, my kids or my brother's family. We all do believe in Scottish independence though. I hopefopk see through that ***** including the no voters. I have no issues with those who wish to remain in the UK. I do t agree with them but I WILL NOT fall out with them. ********s like Carlaw are deliberately stoking up the flames of hatred and now look to be using religion to do so.

CloudSquall
14-02-2020, 09:00 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/PhantomPower14/status/1228432234996260865

"is it a comedian - Jim Davidson?"

...a member of the Scottish public trying to identify Carlaw :greengrin

Moulin Yarns
16-02-2020, 09:07 PM
JUST WOW!!! PLEASE LET THIS BE A TORY LIE.

no apology for shouting.


https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/news/109931/new-downing-street-adviser-called-universal

Ozyhibby
17-02-2020, 12:06 AM
JUST WOW!!! PLEASE LET THIS BE A TORY LIE.

no apology for shouting.


https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/news/109931/new-downing-street-adviser-called-universal

After trying to curtail the press and attacking the justice system, a little bit of eugenics is just what the doctor ordered.[emoji3]


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Ozyhibby
17-02-2020, 03:07 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-andrew-sabisky-eugenics-contraception-dominic-cummings-downing-street-a9339296.html


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Callum_62
17-02-2020, 03:13 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-andrew-sabisky-eugenics-contraception-dominic-cummings-downing-street-a9339296.html


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ronaldo7
17-02-2020, 07:32 PM
I see the Fascist, Andrew Sabisky has resigned. It's a pity he was employed in the first place.

Smartie
17-02-2020, 07:45 PM
I see the Fascist, Andrew Sabisky has resigned. It's a pity he was employed in the first place.

It’s being grateful for small mercies but that’s possibly the first time I have approved of an action from Boris Johnson’s administration.

grunt
17-02-2020, 08:18 PM
I see the Fascist, Andrew Sabisky has resigned. It's a pity he was employed in the first place.

More about him here.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18242099.andrew-sabisky-made-vile-claims-women-sex-reddit/

lapsedhibee
17-02-2020, 09:35 PM
I see the Fascist, Andrew Sabisky has resigned. It's a pity he was employed in the first place.
Perhaps employed purely to make the rest of the right wing nutjobs seem, relatively, normal.

Sudds_1
26-02-2020, 05:18 PM
I see the Fascist, Andrew Sabisky has resigned. It's a pity he was employed in the first place.

Yep....hopefully that snake cummings is next.

ronaldo7
27-02-2020, 06:57 AM
I see Touchy Thomson has been up to no good again. :rolleyes:

Peevemor
27-02-2020, 07:03 AM
I see Touchy Thomson has been up to no good again. :rolleyes:

He obviously just tripped and fell over again, and his hand accidentally ended up in another man's kegs.

CloudSquall
28-02-2020, 12:14 PM
I see Touchy Thomson has been up to no good again. :rolleyes:

Always disappoints me we didn't get to see him get SNP Gained before quitting.

CloudSquall
28-02-2020, 02:13 PM
Everyone's favourite unionist Ruth raked in 7.5k for a single night of punditry, no bad work for those who an get it (DR article linked..)

https://archive.ph/a8twT

Smartie
28-02-2020, 05:01 PM
Everyone's favourite unionist Ruth raked in 7.5k for a single night of punditry, no bad work for those who an get it (DR article linked..)

https://archive.ph/a8twT

I have no problem with her earning that.

It was a big night, she was the kind of figure with the insight and knowledge that was required and desired. If that's what a private company decided it was worth to secure her services then so be it.

There will be many nights in future that she won't work so she's entitled to make hay when the sun shines, and there isn't an election every night.

We need to be a bit careful with our "politics of envy" - how far do we take it?

I think we're right to take the BBC to task when they decide to splurge a load of license fee payers' cash on big names who may or may not deserve it but ITV, Sky etc can do what they like, if they can afford it.

lapsedhibee
28-02-2020, 10:34 PM
At least three government ministers - Churchill, Whately, and Johnson - have today responded to detailed questions about the country's readiness to deal with multiple cases of coronavirus by not answering the questions posed at all, but instead repeating how ready everything is and how the most important thing is to wash your hands more often.

What are they like, the Chinese - if only they had had access to soap! :bitchy:

Mr Grieves
29-02-2020, 02:21 AM
I have no problem with her earning that.

It was a big night, she was the kind of figure with the insight and knowledge that was required and desired. If that's what a private company decided it was worth to secure her services then so be it.

There will be many nights in future that she won't work so she's entitled to make hay when the sun shines, and there isn't an election every night.

We need to be a bit careful with our "politics of envy" - how far do we take it?

I think we're right to take the BBC to task when they decide to splurge a load of license fee payers' cash on big names who may or may not deserve it but ITV, Sky etc can do what they like, if they can afford it.

No other sitting politician has earned that for giving their opinion on a general election night, it's obscene and immoral

And let's just forget the getting on with the day job ***** that she levelled at any other party. She's a complete charlatan that'll soon have her place in the Lords, awardeed by a **** that she supposedly doesn't like

Ozyhibby
29-02-2020, 07:55 AM
Davidson has pretty much decided now that she is in it for every penny she can make. It weakens her for heading up BT2 though so that’s good.


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danhibees1875
29-02-2020, 07:56 AM
Davidson has pretty much decided now that she is in it for every penny she can make. It weakens her for heading up BT2 though so that’s good.


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Did she not turn down a lucrative London job a wee while ago? :dunno:

Ozyhibby
29-02-2020, 08:40 AM
Did she not turn down a lucrative London job a wee while ago? :dunno:

Only after heavy criticism up here. As soon as she goes to the lords she will be taking that job and others.


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Pretty Boy
29-02-2020, 05:25 PM
Johnson and his partner engaged and having a baby.

Affair by Easter?

Hiber-nation
29-02-2020, 09:03 PM
Seems like Priti is as horrible as she appears https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51687287

Right wing press will no doubt blame snowflake civil servants.

Moulin Yarns
05-03-2020, 12:45 PM
The UK government is investigating the possibility of digging a tunnel between Scotland and Northern Ireland, the Scottish secretary has said.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson has previously raised the idea of a bridge being built across the Irish Sea.
But Alister Jack told MSPs this was a "euphemism" for a tunnel, saying "it would be less expensive to tunnel it".




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-51751724

Since when was 'Bridge' a euphenism for 'Tunnel' :rolleyes:

Ozyhibby
05-03-2020, 01:20 PM
Seems like Priti is as horrible as she appears https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51687287

Right wing press will no doubt blame snowflake civil servants.

Mrs Ozyhibby’s cousin works for her and she says that she is every bit as bad as she is portrayed and worse sometimes. Not a nice woman to be around at all.


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Cataplana
05-03-2020, 01:42 PM
Mrs Ozyhibby’s cousin works for her and she says that she is every bit as bad as she is portrayed and worse sometimes. Not a nice woman to be around at all.


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I know you shouldn't go by appearances, but she has something reptilian about her. If reptiles sneer and snarl at all those around them that is.

Bangkok Hibby
05-03-2020, 02:28 PM
Has there ever been a nice female Tory mp?

*edit* cabinet minister.