Hibs transfer rumours

[JohnStephens91]

Do I need a source for my own opinion??

Yes, give me it now or prepare to have it discovered by force :greengrin

[ScottB]

Ah Hibs.net, where Maybury being on trial was greeted with wails of derision, but now said player going somewhere else is a disaster.

:rolleyes:

I bet Dundee might well have been willing to pay him more, because they will see him as a starter and we'd see him as a back up. This does not mean we cannot afford to pay him more if we had wanted to.

Probably wasting my time bringing logic into this, within a few pages we will no doubt have it as FACT that we've missed out the SPL's Paolo Maldini for the sake of £50 Petrie would rather spend on moustache wax...

[Baldy Foghorn]

Chance would be a fine thing......B

Oh ye of little faith......

[Baldy Foghorn]

Ah Hibs.net, where Maybury being on trial was greeted with wails of derision, but now said player going somewhere else is a disaster.

:rolleyes:

I bet Dundee might well have been willing to pay him more, because they will see him as a starter and we'd see him as a back up. This does not mean we cannot afford to pay him more if we had wanted to.

Probably wasting my time bringing logic into this, within a few pages we will no doubt have it as FACT that we've missed out the SPL's Paolo Maldini for the sake of £50 Petrie would rather spend on moustache wax...

Indeed, a number getting their knickers in a twist over nothing much......

[Hermit Crab]

Yes, give me it now or prepare to have it discovered by force :greengrin

Ok the source is me as its my opinion ;)

[Hermit Crab]

Oh ye of little faith......

Yes B my glass is always half empty, it's the Hibs way :)

[MrSmith]

Ah Hibs.net, where Maybury being on trial was greeted with wails of derision, but now said player going somewhere else is a disaster.

:rolleyes:

I bet Dundee might well have been willing to pay him more, because they will see him as a starter and we'd see him as a back up. This does not mean we cannot afford to pay him more if we had wanted to.

Probably wasting my time bringing logic into this, within a few pages we will no doubt have it as FACT that we've missed out the SPL's Paolo Maldini for the sake of £50 Petrie would rather spend on moustache wax...

The disaster is, again we have effed up our pre season! No settled team, and the possibility of players coming in at the last moment! If it wasn't so tragic it would be hilarious!

[Baldy Foghorn]

The disaster is, again we have effed up our pre season! No settled team, and the possibility of players coming in at the last moment! If it wasn't so tragic it would be hilarious!

We played the same starting 11 against Union Berlin and Huddersfield, which was a huge indication as to PF's thinking. Maybe after the Let's Work Together calls, more have renewed, allowing us to bring in other's? The window is open until the end of August, let's not press the panic button just yet.....

[jdships]

Ah Hibs.net, where Maybury being on trial was greeted with wails of derision, but now said player going somewhere else is a disaster.

:rolleyes:

I bet Dundee might well have been willing to pay him more, because they will see him as a starter and we'd see him as a back up. This does not mean we cannot afford to pay him more if we had wanted to.

Probably wasting my time bringing logic into this, within a few pages we will no doubt have it as FACT that we've missed out the SPL's Paolo Maldini for the sake of £50 Petrie would rather spend on moustache wax...


Have just got in so haven't read all todays posts.
Heard at lunchtime , allbeit from a local 'journo' , that Maybury is asking for guarantees of a first team starting place which PF ( naturally) isn't prepared to give

[Pedantic_Hibee]

My personal call to Fenlon to preserve all transfer business to the last day of the window is bearing fruit. Gear yourselves up for August 31st lads.

[JohnStephens91]

My personal call to Fenlon to preserve all transfer business to the last day of the window is bearing fruit. Gear yourselves up for August 31st lads.

The routine must be kept otherwise the moaners will be unable to moan

[Baldy Foghorn]

Have just got in so haven't read all todays posts.
Heard at lunchtime , allbeit from a local 'journo' , that Maybury is asking for guarantees of a first team starting place which PF ( naturally) isn't prepared to give

Fair enough, I did not think he would be a starter every week, so can understand PF's stance....

[Hermit Crab]

Fair enough, I did not think he would be a starter every week, so can understand PF's stance....

Nobody should be guaranteed a starting place, it creates a bit of healthy competition in the squad

[MrSmith]

We played the same starting 11 against Union Berlin and Huddersfield, which was a huge indication as to PF's thinking. Maybe after the Let's Work Together calls, more have renewed, allowing us to bring in other's? The window is open until the end of August, let's not press the panic button just yet.....

I'm not panicking, it's just, after last years pre-season debacle... I hoped, we would have at least, got a settled side together to move forward with. Although I do understand the ambiguity caused by Rangers/Sky funding, I still hoped we would have learned some lessons.

[Golden Bear]

Have just got in so haven't read all todays posts.
Heard at lunchtime , allbeit from a local 'journo' , that Maybury is asking for guarantees of a first team starting place which PF ( naturally) isn't prepared to give

That seems a very strange and totally unrealistic demand for any player to make.

All players have their ups and downs during the course of a season so surely a player can't demand to be picked even when they're suffering from a loss of form?

:confused:

[Baldy Foghorn]

Nobody should be guaranteed a starting place, it creates a bit of healthy competition in the squad

Williams and McPake, will be two on the teamsheet each week barring injury or suspension

[Aldo]

Williams and McPake, will be two on the teamsheet each week barring injury or suspension

Baldy. You can add Griffiths to that pair for me as well.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I'm not panicing, it's just, after last years pre-season debacle... I hoped, we would have at least, got a settled side together to move forward with. Although I do understand the ambiguity caused by Raangers/Sky funding, I still hoped we would have learned some lessons.

Fair do's

[Hermit Crab]

Williams and McPake, will be two on the teamsheet each week barring injury or suspension

Yes but don't tell anyone ;)

[Baldy Foghorn]

Yes but don't tell anyone ;)

I can keep a secret ..............

[Baldy Foghorn]

Baldy. You can add Griffiths to that pair for me as well.

Indeed......

[hibees 7062]

We played the same starting 11 against Union Berlin and Huddersfield, which was a huge indication as to PF's thinking. Maybe after the Let's Work Together calls, more have renewed, allowing us to bring in other's? The window is open until the end of August, let's not press the panic button just yet.....
:agree: My only concern is whos partnering Mcpake

[Baldy Foghorn]

:agree: My only concern is whos partnering Mcpake

Stephens is OK, if he can maintain his concentration throughout the game......I think McPake will really help Stephens and will bring him on....Thats my hope anyway

[SMAXXA]

Stephens is OK, if he can maintain his concentration throughout the game......I think McPake will really help Stephens and will bring him on....Thats my hope anyway

I agree with this

[Emerald]

We played the same starting 11 against Union Berlin and Huddersfield, which was a huge indication as to PF's thinking. Maybe after the Let's Work Together calls, more have renewed, allowing us to bring in other's? The window is open until the end of August, let's not press the panic button just yet.....

With 7000 ST in place before the phone round, which is the third biggest ST sales in the SPL, we should have been able to put a squad together before the season kicks off. A very valiant effort by all the people on the phones and with all due respect, how many more ST were they realistically expecting to sell? Its not really good enough for a club like Hibs to have the bare bones of the crap we had last year to start the new season. I don't get this August 31 thing anyway, the season starts on Sunday. Just as well the 7000 early renewars didn't do the same and leave it until then.

I dont believe there are no players out there that could improve our team for the money we are offering. The bottom line is they have not been identified. For a close season rebuild, it is very disappointing.

[hibees 7062]

Stephens is OK, if he can maintain his concentration throughout the game......I think McPake will really help Stephens and will bring him on....Thats my hope anyway

Mine to i like Stephens just hope he can handle any mistakes being so young

[Iggy Pope]

Stephens is OK, if he can maintain his concentration throughout the game......I think McPake will really help Stephens and will bring him on....Thats my hope anyway

I hope so too. At Vlissingen it was easy to hear him in Stephens' ear during the 2nd Half, encouraging him.

[AlbertK86]

With 7000 ST in place before the phone round, which is the third biggest ST sales in the SPL, we should have been able to put a squad together before the season kicks off. A very valiant effort by all the people on the phones and with all due respect, how many more ST were they realistically expecting to sell? Its not really good enough for a club like Hibs to have the bare bones of the crap we had last year to start the new season. I don't get this August 31 thing anyway, the season starts on Sunday. Just as well the 7000 early renewars didn't do the same and leave it until then.

I dont believe there are no players out there that could improve our team for the money we are offering. The bottom line is they have not been identified. For a close season rebuild, it is very disappointing.

You surely can't be surprised!!

It has been exactly the same every year since Rod took over

[Andy74]

With 7000 ST in place before the phone round, which is the third biggest ST sales in the SPL, we should have been able to put a squad together before the season kicks off. A very valiant effort by all the people on the phones and with all due respect, how many more ST were they realistically expecting to sell? Its not really good enough for a club like Hibs to have the bare bones of the crap we had last year to start the new season. I don't get this August 31 thing anyway, the season starts on Sunday. Just as well the 7000 early renewars didn't do the same and leave it until then.

I dont believe there are no players out there that could improve our team for the money we are offering. The bottom line is they have not been identified. For a close season rebuild, it is very disappointing.

For the long haul I'm to happy to get the right ones that want to be here. I'm sure we could sign all manner of players which is just what we've done in the past. Pat has shown at previous jobs he won't be rushed for the sake of it.

[NAE NOOKIE]

With 7000 ST in place before the phone round, which is the third biggest ST sales in the SPL, we should have been able to put a squad together before the season kicks off. A very valiant effort by all the people on the phones and with all due respect, how many more ST were they realistically expecting to sell? Its not really good enough for a club like Hibs to have the bare bones of the crap we had last year to start the new season. I don't get this August 31 thing anyway, the season starts on Sunday. Just as well the 7000 early renewars didn't do the same and leave it until then.

I dont believe there are no players out there that could improve our team for the money we are offering. The bottom line is they have not been identified. For a close season rebuild, it is very disappointing.

Got to say thats the way its starting to look.

The only actual new signings we have made are Cairney, Williams and Clancy.

Everybody else at ER was here for the 2nd half of the season and the cup final and the truth is that they struggled against just about every team they played ... the 3 new guys are not IMO going to change that situation a great deal, though I did like what I saw of Cairney against Huddersfield, Williams looked solid enough and Clancy looks at least as good as anybody else we have had at RB recently.

Forgetting the forward position we desperately desperately needed to strengthen the midfield and up to now not only have we not done that, we havn't even looked like we are thinking about it .. our targets ( not that Hibs ever say who they are after ) seem to be defenders and forwards .. or at least thats what PF seems to be thinking about.

We should be busting a gut to vastly improve our midfield and its not happening.

[Speedway]

Didn't he do well at Watford?

We were going to take another lad on loan from Vicarage Road but you don't get anything for a pair, not in this game.

[gegs70]

My personal call to Fenlon to preserve all transfer business to the last day of the window is bearing fruit. Gear yourselves up for August 31st lads.

The season starts this week so would it not have been better to prepare a squad before so they had time to train together and have preseason to gel together.

[blackpoolhibs]

The season starts this week so would it not have been better to prepare a squad before so they had time to train together and have preseason to gel together.

:tee hee:

[J-C]

The season starts this week so would it not have been better to prepare a squad before so they had time to train together and have preseason to gel together.


Whoosh.

[gegs70]

[QUOTE=jc1;3311336]Whoosh.[/QUO

Hopefully we will be ok with what weve got.....?????????

[R'Albin]

The season starts this week so would it not have been better to prepare a squad before so they had time to train together and have preseason to gel together.

:greengrin

[HibbyAndy]

The season starts this week so would it not have been better to prepare a squad before so they had time to train together and have preseason to gel together.


:hilarious :hilarious


Whooooosh :Ummm:

[BEEJ]

Rowan Vine in his interview when signing for St Johnstone said he'd been training on his own all summer just waiting for a call from a club willing to give him a chance. St Johnstone did that last week when they invited him up to train.

Not sure why fans are so eager for these stories that reflect badly on Hibs. It seems pretty clear if the club did show any interest, it was after he scored two goals on Saturday and by that time he had probably made up his mind to sign for Saints.

He certainly hinted at that when the Rangers interest was mentioned. He said he had been made to feel welcome in Perth and wasn't going to tout himself about. If Hibs did contact his agent, I bet Vine never even spoke to the club, so how did he turn Hibs down?

Negative for the sake of being negative some posters.
So we might not have been outbid, but we may have been slow off the mark in securing this player's signature?

If we were interested in him, that is.

That still wouldn't paint the club in the best possible light on the transfer front. If it were to be the case. :wink:

[Emerald]

For the long haul I'm to happy to get the right ones that want to be here. I'm sure we could sign all manner of players which is just what we've done in the past. Pat has shown at previous jobs he won't be rushed for the sake of it.

The long haul? How ******g long is that going to last? We've been asked to patient for years.

[Speedway]

Kerr's been offered terms.

[Emerald]

Kerr's been offered terms.

Brian????

[Aldo]

Kerr's been offered terms.

Is that that then... I really did hope for more this week tbh... Especially since the telly contract had been sorted.

We need at least another 3 in minimum IMHO. Another MF and 2 x CF.

If this is indeed it then we are in for a battle royale again this season.

[Leighonel]

Kerr's been offered terms.

Some people might not agree but I'd rather Michael Stewart, who is as far as I know is still a free agent, over Kerr. I'm by no means saying he is the best option but he would offer more than Kerr.

[hibees 7062]

Some people might not agree but I'd rather Michael Stewart, who is as far as I know is still a free agent, over Kerr. I'm by no means saying he is the best option but he would offer more than Kerr.

:agree: Free agent , bad egg i think . Pity great player

[500miles]

I'm glad that we're not buying a whole new squad. We've tried this - it ends up in cancelled contracts and squad fillers.

In a team that lacks leadership, we're signing two experienced heads in Maybury and Kerr, the latter of whom was captain at Aberdeen. Williams is an experienced goalkeeper, who played regularly before coming to Hibs, and a fans favourite. Cairney is a talented player, looking to make the step up, but with a good history of goals from midfield, and Clancy is an established SPL player, who featured in a number of positions for Motherwell, regularly last season.

We're building a team, and it takes more than a window. We're looking to improve, but if you think that you can realistically expect to go from relegation struggler to Champions league over a summer, then you're off your heid.

This team is the team we have. I simply hope it is an improvement on last year, and continues to improve. Top six material hopefully.

[hibees 7062]

I'm glad that we're not buying a whole new squad. We've tried this - it ends up in cancelled contracts and squad fillers.

In a team that lacks leadership, we're signing two experienced heads in Maybury and Kerr, the latter of whom was captain at Aberdeen. Williams is an experienced goalkeeper, who played regularly before coming to Hibs, and a fans favourite. Cairney is a talented player, looking to make the step up, but with a good history of goals from midfield, and Clancy is an established SPL player, who featured in a number of positions for Motherwell, regularly last season.

We're building a team, and it takes more than a window. We're looking to improve, but if you think that you can realistically expect to go from relegation struggler to Champions league over a summer, then you're off your heid.

This team is the team we have. I simply hope it is an improvement on last year, and continues to improve. Top six material hopefully.

:agree::agree:

[Saorsa]

Some people might not agree but I'd rather Michael Stewart, who is as far as I know is still a free agent, over Kerr. I'm by no means saying he is the best option but he would offer more than Kerr.****in' h****s *******

[Emerald]

I'm glad that we're not buying a whole new squad. We've tried this - it ends up in cancelled contracts and squad fillers.

In a team that lacks leadership, we're signing two experienced heads in Maybury and Kerr, the latter of whom was captain at Aberdeen. Williams is an experienced goalkeeper, who played regularly before coming to Hibs, and a fans favourite. Cairney is a talented player, looking to make the step up, but with a good history of goals from midfield, and Clancy is an established SPL player, who featured in a number of positions for Motherwell, regularly last season.

We're building a team, and it takes more than a window. We're looking to improve, but if you think that you can realistically expect to go from relegation struggler to Champions league over a summer, then you're off your heid.

This team is the team we have. I simply hope it is an improvement on last year, and continues to improve. Top six material hopefully.

How many windows do you reckon then. I've been waiting and waiting and waiting and getting told to be patient, its been a transition period for the best part of 30 years. Which window will we have a team ready to play to the standard a team with the third highest support in the league deserves. I can't believe we are not ready for the season AGAIN. We have almost the same team that failed so badly last season. Two home league wins!!! So, how many windows is it then?

[Kato]

****in' h****s *******

I concur.

[Leighonel]

I concur.

So do I, but he is a better player than Kerr.

[machibby]

So do I, but he is a better player than Kerr.

Was

[500miles]

How many windows do you reckon then. I've been waiting and waiting and waiting and getting told to be patient, its been a transition period for the best part of 30 years. Which window will we have a team ready to play to the standard a team with the third highest support in the league deserves. I can't believe we are not ready for the season AGAIN. We have almost the same team that failed so badly last season. Two home league wins!!! So, how many windows is it then?
Nearly the same team? We're looking likely to have 5 new faces in the door, plus two players who we thought we would lose. That's more than half a team. So we can't have "nearly the same team", especially with so many out the door! People are being hysterically facile.

[Emerald]

Nearly the same team? We're looking likely to have 5 new faces in the door, plus two players who we thought we would lose. That's more than half a team. So we can't have "nearly the same team", especially with so many out the door! People are being hysterically facile.

Thank god for for that. Here's me been worrying over nothing as well! :rolleyes:

[hibeefan95]

I'm glad that we're not buying a whole new squad. We've tried this - it ends up in cancelled contracts and squad fillers.

In a team that lacks leadership, we're signing two experienced heads in Maybury and Kerr, the latter of whom was captain at Aberdeen. Williams is an experienced goalkeeper, who played regularly before coming to Hibs, and a fans favourite. Cairney is a talented player, looking to make the step up, but with a good history of goals from midfield, and Clancy is an established SPL player, who featured in a number of positions for Motherwell, regularly last season.

We're building a team, and it takes more than a window. We're looking to improve, but if you think that you can realistically expect to go from relegation struggler to Champions league over a summer, then you're off your heid.

This team is the team we have. I simply hope it is an improvement on last year, and continues to improve. Top six material hopefully.

:agree: :top marks

[eastmainsmsh]

Is Ludo roy Coaching the young goalkeepers at the club ? along with Scott Thomson .....Dont want to start anything silly here but it looked like him coming out of East Mains earlier this evening

[Leishy1995]

Must say, Michael Stewart's work level was way above what we have had. And was actually a bit talented.

[gbur123ukgb]

season starts in couple of days and currently we dont have a midfield as such no ball winner and no talent not seen cairney so cant count him in that one.
Will be same as last few years we will sign a couple of guys on last day of window and by which time we will already be playing catch up.
I may be proved wrong however i very much doubt we will see any new faces before sunday or infact before the derby.
I am pleased we have signed clancy however a good player for motherwell so hopefully he will do well
Mcpake well dont need to say anthing about him we know we are getting a worker and a leader new goalie looks no bad
so we have added a few just would like a bit more.
Is there any real rumours doing rounds about pos players coming in postions we need

[blackpoolhibs]

The Lee Miller rumour seems to have died a death?

[Vault Boy]

The Lee Miller rumour seems to have died a death?

It was on the rumours site so no wonder. The latest from there is a move for Akinfenwa, I am 99% sure he could eat Eoin Doyle, so could be a bit of a hazard at training IMO. :greengrin

[BEEJ]

People are being hysterically facile.
:agree: Indeed - including the comment below.


We're building a team, and it takes more than a window. We're looking to improve, but if you think that you can realistically expect to go from relegation struggler to Champions league over a summer, then you're off your heid.
Champions League! :hilarious

The majority of folks are just desperate for our club to avoid a repeat of the last two seasons. Many remain unconvinced that the transfer activity to date is sufficient to avoid that outcome.


This team is the team we have. I simply hope it is an improvement on last year, and continues to improve. Top six material hopefully.
As Hibs supporters, we all travel more in hope than in expectation these days.

[Heisenberg]

It was on the rumours site so no wonder. The latest from their is a move for Akinfenwa, I am 99% sure he could eat Eoin Doyle, so could be a bit of a hazard at training IMO. :greengrin


:faf::top marks

[darwenhibby]

The Lee Miller rumour seems to have died a death?

It's been put away now until the next transfer window! An Emile Heskey one will be along in a minute

[andrew70]

Forsyth has knocked back Dundee and will decide upon a move to either us or St Johnstone this weekend.

[SteveHFC]

Forsyth has knocked back Dundee and will decide upon a move to either us or St Johnstone this weekend.

Source?

[gegs70]

Nearly the same team? We're looking likely to have 5 new faces in the door, plus two players who we thought we would lose. That's more than half a team. So we can't have "nearly the same team", especially with so many out the door! People are being hysterically facile.

I agree but surely we have 1 or 2 strikers missing than we had last season and the midfield area has not been really touched upon only really cairney? Jury is still out on Claros?

Do hibs not sign players early so they can save a few weeks wages, seems to me that happened a few timrs over the last few seasons. So they arrive at hibs unfit and a few games out of sync and we all say"give h a few games" "theres a footballerin there"...

Sorry guys rant over...Just dont feel comfortable wth what we have in certain areas.

[Hermit Crab]

Forsyth has knocked back Dundee and will decide upon a move to either us or St Johnstone this weekend.

If you are what they call "in the know" then who told you this information?

[Gmack7]

Forsyth has knocked back Dundee and will decide upon a move to either us or St Johnstone this weekend.

well thats the end of that because the saints ALWAYS outbid us apparently

[AlbertK86]

I agree but surely we have 1 or 2 strikers missing than we had last season and the midfield area has not been really touched upon only really cairney? Jury is still out on Claros?

Do hibs not sign players early so they can save a few weeks wages, seems to me that happened a few timrs over the last few seasons. So they arrive at hibs unfit and a few games out of sync and we all say"give h a few games" "theres a footballerin there"...

Sorry guys rant over...Just dont feel comfortable wth what we have in certain areas.

Prepare yerself for a kicking from all Petrie's love children on here for suggesting he's holding back to save wages !!

I have mentioned this once or twice but was harangued for suggesting he would contemplate such a thing

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Emille heskey set to sign:greengrin

[gbur123ukgb]

Prepare yerself for a kicking from all Petrie's love children on here for suggesting he's holding back to save wages !!

I have mentioned this once or twice but was harangued for suggesting he would contemplate such a thing
Have to say not sure why so many people back petrie 1 managerial success then there was collins he screwed that up.
Never seems in a hurry to part with any cash rumour has it he always tries to get players on the cheap to the point they go elsewhere.
As previously said thanks for the nice stadium and the training ground but that has come at the expense of the team which im sure is where we want any money now to be spent.
It will be same old same old crappy bosmans on last day of window and a season to forget again surely he can see we need players in now and not in 3 weeks.
However with Hibs continued silence we dont know if Pat has money just not spent it yet waiting on right players so maybe it is no Petrie

[gbur123ukgb]

Emille heskey set to sign:greengrin
No chance

[Andy74]

Prepare yerself for a kicking from all Petrie's love children on here for suggesting he's holding back to save wages !!

I have mentioned this once or twice but was harangued for suggesting he would contemplate such a thing

Rightly so. It's a fairly daft thing to say.

[Mikey]

Prepare yerself for a kicking from all Petrie's love children on here for suggesting he's holding back to save wages !!

I have mentioned this once or twice but was harangued for suggesting he would contemplate such a thing

They don't hold off to save a few weeks wages. They do however hold off until the end of the window as players drop their demands as time runs out.

[Lucius Apuleius]

Prepare yerself for a kicking from all Petrie's love children on here for suggesting he's holding back to save wages !!

I have mentioned this once or twice but was harangued for suggesting he would contemplate such a thing

Where about? I must have missed that.

[Steve-O]

They don't hold off to save a few weeks wages. They do however hold off until the end of the window as players drop their demands as time runs out.

So what you're saying is, he holds off to save a bit of money on wages...:greengrin

[gbur123ukgb]

They don't hold off to save a few weeks wages. They do however hold off until the end of the window as players drop their demands as time runs out.
By which time we are usually already playing catch up in the league this policy has not worked for the last 4 years and doubt it will work this year.
Would rather pay a bit extra to get guys in before season starts as building a team doesnt just happen when players are put together it takes time if you wait 3-6 weeks it is more time it takes to gel etc

[Lucius Apuleius]

Have to say not sure why so many people back petrie 1 managerial success then there was collins he screwed that up.
Never seems in a hurry to part with any cash rumour has it he always tries to get players on the cheap to the point they go elsewhere.
As previously said thanks for the nice stadium and the training ground but that has come at the expense of the team which im sure is where we want any money now to be spent.
It will be same old same old crappy bosmans on last day of window and a season to forget again surely he can see we need players in now and not in 3 weeks.
However with Hibs continued silence we dont know if Pat has money just not spent it yet waiting on right players so maybe it is no Petrie

hibs.net FACT! Endof!

[The Falcon]

Have to say not sure why so many people back petrie 1 managerial success then there was collins he screwed that up.



How did he screw that up?

[The Falcon]

They don't hold off to save a few weeks wages. They do however hold off until the end of the window as players drop their demands as time runs out.


There's also the issue whereby the players concerned dont want to come here/hold off for a better deal elsewhere until time begins to run out. Its not always the clubs fault, which will surprise some.

[Steve-O]

By which time we are usually already playing catch up in the league this policy has not worked for the last 4 years and doubt it will work this year.
Would rather pay a bit extra to get guys in before season starts as building a team doesnt just happen when players are put together it takes time if you wait 3-6 weeks it is more time it takes to gel etc

Indeed.

Perhaps we'd make more progress by actually signing players that want to play for Hibs rather than waiting till the end of the window and signing players who are desperate for a contract wherever they can get it. There's also a reason that nobody has signed most of these players as well...

[AlbertK86]

Rightly so. It's a fairly daft thing to say.

Okay Andy Petrie

[gbur123ukgb]

How did he screw that up?
By not backing the manager against the players when he had just won us the cis cup first cup since 1991.
Collins tried to change culture of club get the players to be proper pros and the players didnt like it.
Collins wanted the players to be total professionals to me there is nothing wrong with that.
Collins also wanted the players to study the game be at training early in morning and not leave until 4-5 oclock in the day and agian the players didnt like it they went to petrie and instead of telling them to bolt if they didnt like new ideas there is the door he had meeting with them did he not.
Since then the club has had a softness about it and that is part of the problem.

Mark my words watch Livingston in couple of years with yogi and collins what im told is collins is putting into place same professionalism at livy as he was trying to do here and they will do well

[Mikey]

Okay Andy Petrie

Less of the personal stuff please.

[Spike Mandela]

Less of the personal stuff please.

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:confused:

Some folk getting a bit sensitive no?

[GordonHFC]

Less bickering and more rumours please :aok:

[Spike Mandela]

Less bickering and more rumours please :aok:

Andy74 is Petrie's love child is a major rumour:wink::greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

By not backing the manager against the players when he had just won us the cis cup first cup since 1991.
Collins tried to change culture of club get the players to be proper pros and the players didnt like it.
Collins wanted the players to be total professionals to me there is nothing wrong with that.
Collins also wanted the players to study the game be at training early in morning and not leave until 4-5 oclock in the day and agian the players didnt like it they went to petrie and instead of telling them to bolt if they didnt like new ideas there is the door he had meeting with them did he not.
Since then the club has had a softness about it and that is part of the problem.

Mark my words watch Livingston in couple of years with yogi and collins what im told is collins is putting into place same professionalism at livy as he was trying to do here and they will do well

Petrie absolutely backed Collins.

He met the players out of courtesy, doing so at his home was a mistake.

By all accounts, and the evidence backs this, he listened to the players complaints and then made it clear that JC was the manager and that was that. He also backed Collins decision to remove the players he perceived to be the 'ringleaders' of the rebellion from the club in the summer.

Still the fact that Petrie backed the players has become yet another FACT. ENDOF. to beat Petrie and the club with at any opportunity.

[AlbertK86]

Less of the personal stuff please.

Sticks and stones ......

Banter mate ..... Lighten up !!!

Oh and opinions is what it's all about. Would be well boring if every one on here agreed !!!

[Cocaine&Caviar]

Petrie absolutely backed Collins.

He met the players out of courtesy, doing so at his home was a mistake.

By all accounts, and the evidence backs this, he listened to the players complaints and then made it clear that JC was the manager and that was that. He also backed Collins decision to remove the players he perceived to be the 'ringleaders' of the rebellion from the club in the summer.

Still the fact that Petrie backed the players has become yet another FACT. ENDOF. to beat Petrie and the club with at any opportunity.

Who were these out of interest? Stewart? Brown?

[goosefat]

Okay Andy Petrie

You go girl!

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

:take that

[scoopyboy]

By not backing the manager against the players when he had just won us the cis cup first cup since 1991.
Collins tried to change culture of club get the players to be proper pros and the players didnt like it.
Collins wanted the players to be total professionals to me there is nothing wrong with that.
Collins also wanted the players to study the game be at training early in morning and not leave until 4-5 oclock in the day and agian the players didnt like it they went to petrie and instead of telling them to bolt if they didnt like new ideas there is the door he had meeting with them did he not.
Since then the club has had a softness about it and that is part of the problem.

Mark my words watch Livingston in couple of years with yogi and collins what im told is collins is putting into place same professionalism at livy as he was trying to do here and they will do well

You seem to have missed his quality signings out and the fact he baled out prior to a run of fixtures he didn't fancy.

[Col2]

Putting all the sniping aside, on the eve of the season after 2 years of dreadful football and sub standard players, we are seriously under prepared for the coming season.

We expected a lot of change, a summer of change even and the best case scenario was a lot of new players to take time to gel. We have lost 15 and brought in 5, 2 of which were here last season.

I just listened to the podcast from sportsound last night and they were raving about how good united were. And how good a performance Motherwell put in and even St Johnstone. United in particular look like they have excellent young players, a solid defence, creative midfield and superb front three.

Us? Midfield is no better, if anything marginally worse. And it was ineffectual last season. Attack is worse off and defence may be a little better. And we finished 11th last season.

All I can see for first two games is :-

Dundee United 3 Hibs 0
Hibs 0 Hearts 2

As others have said we could be in trouble by the 1st Sept if we wait to get a couple in then. Saying that we have the AGM in October....so oh all know what's could be coming then...

[Steve-O]

Putting all the sniping aside, on the eve of the season after 2 years of dreadful football and sub standard players, we are seriously under prepared for the coming season.

We expected a lot of change, a summer of change even and the best case scenario was a lot of new players to take time to gel. We have lost 15 and brought in 5, 2 of which were here last season.

I just listened to the podcast from sportsound last night and they were raving about how good united were. And how good a performance Motherwell put in and even St Johnstone. United in particular look like they have excellent young players, a solid defence, creative midfield and superb front three.

Us? Midfield is no better, if anything marginally worse. And it was ineffectual last season. Attack is worse off and defence may be a little better. And we finished 11th last season.

All I can see for first two games is :-

Dundee United 3 Hibs 0
Hibs 0 Hearts 2

As others have said we could be in trouble by the 1st Sept if we wait to get a couple in then. Saying that we have the AGM in October....so oh all know what's could be coming then...

Agreed.

The overhaul we absolutely desperately needed has not materialised and it's an absolute disgrace to be honest. Close to 8000 season tickets sold if we're to believe Petrie and yet almost every other team in the league appears to be in better shape than us, the majority of whom who have much less in the way of season tickets, and at cheaper prices!

I honestly can't see anything other than 2 defeats in the first 2 games and then we are absolutely back to square one.

It will take at least another 3 quality signings to persuade me otherwise.

[IFONLY]

Agreed.

The overhaul we absolutely desperately needed has not materialised and it's an absolute disgrace to be honest. Close to 8000 season tickets sold if we're to believe Petrie and yet almost every other team in the league appears to be in better shape than us, the majority of whom who have much less in the way of season tickets, and at cheaper prices!

I honestly can't see anything other than 2 defeats in the first 2 games and then we are absolutely back to square one.

It will take at least another 3 quality signings to persuade me otherwise.

What "quality" have we signed so far?????

[Steve-O]

What "quality" have we signed so far?????

Well hoping Clancy is decent...and Griffiths is supposed to be of good quality (don't necessarily agree myself). Clutching at straws maybe so you can take or leave the word 'another' if you want :greengrin

[woodythehibee]

What "quality" have we signed so far?????



McPake, Griffiths, Clancy. And Williams and Cairney could be great signings!

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

I am going to put a bit money on United to give us a hiding. 4-0 should stem off the pain of defeat.

You could almost write the post match report already.

[hibees 7062]

McPake, Griffiths, Clancy. And Williams and Cairney could be great signings!

:agree::agree:

[ahibby]

McPake, Griffiths, Clancy. And Williams and Cairney could be great signings!

We had McPake and Griffiths for a good part of last season and still finished 11th. Two of the others you mention might improve on who we had in those positions already but Cairney in midfield in the SPL is untried so we can't say if that has strengthened our midfield and on paper at least it looks not to have. Our foward line looks weaker (again on paper).

As others have said above, the overhaul some of us hoped for has not materialised and there is a chance that clubs with less resources than us are doing better with the little they have.

What is really frustrating for me, and to a point undermines our club, is that the fans seem to recognise problems that the club don't or at least appear to be incapable of sorting. That at a time when Dundee Utd are fairly consistently good not comparing with the OF, St J continue to punch above their weight as do Motherwell, etc. The club continually ask us to back them but some may feel they are simply flogging a dead horse, because year in year out it's just the same old. I don't know what players are available but like others here I think I have realistic expectations, which haven't been met for a few years now.

[scoopyboy]

I am going to put a bit money on United to give us a hiding. 4-0 should stem off the pain of defeat.

You could almost write the post match report already.

And if Hibs win it will simply be a case of "papering over the cracks".

Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

[Steve-O]

And if Hibs win it will simply be a case of "papering over the cracks".

Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I'll be as happy as anyone if Hibs win and then follow up with a win or at least a draw against Hearts, but I just can't see it, that is the point.

We all hope there will be big improvements. The jury is out after a so-so pre-season, both in terms of games played and signings.

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

We had McPake and Griffiths for a good part of last season and still finished 11th. Two of the others you mention might improve on who we had in those positions already but Cairney in midfield in the SPL is untried so we can't say if that has strengthened our midfield and on paper at least it looks not to have. Our foward line looks weaker (again on paper).

As others have said above, the overhaul some of us hoped for has not materialised and there is a chance that clubs with less resources than us are doing better with the little they have.

What is really frustrating for me, and to a point undermines our club, is that the fans seem to recognise problems that the club don't or at least appear to be incapable of sorting. That at a time when Dundee Utd are fairly consistently good not comparing with the OF, St J continue to punch above their weight as do Motherwell, etc. The club continually ask us to back them but some may feel they are simply flogging a dead horse, because year in year out it's just the same old. I don't know what players are available but like others here I think I have realistic expectations, which haven't been met for a few years now.

Totally agree.

We, as fans pretend to know everything and like to suggest players for the club to sign. However we don't know who is out there, willing to sign or has the personality we are looking for.

What is frustrating me is this 'summer of change' advertised by the club, just never materialised. Every fan (irrespective of football knowledge) knows our midfield is an embarrassment, we now play our season opener with a weaker midfield than last season. Even if we were to sign a few more, players need time to settle.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Some of us don't deserve to be termed as a 'supporter'.

[Steve-O]

Some of us don't deserve to be termed as a 'supporter'.

Maybe the club needs to do a bit more to earn that support.

[Hibs7]

A disgraceful situation to be in after all Petries pleading and the fan phone calls, beginning to wonder what is going on at Hibs and is Fenlon the right man, the next 2 weeks will tell a lot.

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

4-1 Hibs as opposed to 4-6 united says a lot!!!!! Even the bookies know we are going to be bottom feeders this year!!!

[Delboy4]

By not backing the manager against the players when he had just won us the cis cup first cup since 1991.
Collins tried to change culture of club get the players to be proper pros and the players didnt like it.
Collins wanted the players to be total professionals to me there is nothing wrong with that.
Collins also wanted the players to study the game be at training early in morning and not leave until 4-5 oclock in the day and agian the players didnt like it they went to petrie and instead of telling them to bolt if they didnt like new ideas there is the door he had meeting with them did he not.
Since then the club has had a softness about it and that is part of the problem.

Mark my words watch Livingston in couple of years with yogi and collins what im told is collins is putting into place same professionalism at livy as he was trying to do here and they will do well


My daughter goes out with one of the Livvy players -JC & Yogi have changed the whole way of thinking at the club...the players love it, they love JC's professionalism, when he takes the training he leads from the front!
They cannot believe how fit he is, he could probably still play in that division...

...anyway, the moral of the story is that JC tried to change Hibs into a fitter & football playing team (not hoofball) changing their eating habits, their lifestyle (that's been our problem for years at ER) but the players couldn't recognise what he was up to so they went greetin' to the moustache WHO should have told them to get on their bike!

I remember one game when Maka laced one up the park from his box - JC ran out the dugout and gave him pelters for booting the ball back to the opposition as he just told him 2 mins before that to throw out to the LB/RB. How do any good footballing sides play, play from the back!!

Ok, he signed a few players that were not so great but he only had so much funds to play with and he was still learning as it was his first job. I think that was one of the reasons he left was that he wanted more cash? Might be wrong!

[dmc1875]

A disgraceful situation to be in after all Petries pleading and the fan phone calls, beginning to wonder what is going on at Hibs and is Fenlon the right man, the next 2 weeks will tell a lot.

The way we go about our transfer business is extremely frustrating for us fans, although I do see where the club is coming from in not releasing info etc. However, if its true about some of our targets that we have missed out on, other SPL sides are after them too. Every paper is full of info on signing targets of St J, Utd, ICT etc but Hibs are never mentioned. Fans get frustrated because there is a lack of communication from the club about possible targets. All we hear is 'we are trying to bring people in' 'the right quality' etc it is wearing thin.

But the way Hibs do business we could sign someone at lunchtime today that no-one could of predicted, its the Hibs way of doing things it seems.

It would be nice to feel that we can compete with so called 'lesser' teams though. Teams with smaller wage budgets, much smaller income (ST's etc) and much smaller fan bases.. At the moment I'm struggling to see us compete with anyone in the transfer market.

Petrie can blab all he wants about the Rangers situation however the TV deal is now sealed and every other club is in the same boat..

[Part/Time Supporter]

My daughter goes out with one of the Livvy players -JC & Yogi have changed the whole way of thinking at the club...the players love it, they love JC's professionalism, when he takes the training he leads from the front!
They cannot believe how fit he is, he could probably still play in that division...

... and they were beaten 1-0 by Annan last week.

[Andy74]

A disgraceful situation to be in after all Petries pleading and the fan phone calls, beginning to wonder what is going on at Hibs and is Fenlon the right man, the next 2 weeks will tell a lot.

Surely Fenlon not falling into the old traps and just buying anyone is a good sign? This is a big rebuild and the next two weeks will prove nothing either way.

[hibs_or_sat_am]

Maybe the club needs to do a bit more to earn that support.

You don't really earn support though, support should be there when its needed! When one of your family is having a bad time do you sit down and assess whether or not they have done enough for you to help them through their difficult time? I doubt it!

Support of something/someone you love should be unconditional, not something that is earned!

[Steve-O]

You don't really earn support though, support should be there when its needed! When one of your family is having a bad time do you sit down and assess whether or not they have done enough for you to help them through their difficult time? I doubt it!

Support of something/someone you love should be unconditional, not something that is earned!

My family don't charge 405 quid a year to see them 19 times though.

[Delboy4]

... and they were beaten 1-0 by Annan last week.

That means nothing, it's the start of the season, they were playing a few 18/19 year old as they have a couple of injuries!

[hibees 7062]

My daughter goes out with one of the Livvy players -JC & Yogi have changed the whole way of thinking at the club...the players love it, they love JC's professionalism, when he takes the training he leads from the front!
They cannot believe how fit he is, he could probably still play in that division...

...anyway, the moral of the story is that JC tried to change Hibs into a fitter & football playing team (not hoofball) changing their eating habits, their lifestyle (that's been our problem for years at ER) but the players couldn't recognise what he was up to so they went greetin' to the moustache WHO should have told them to get on their bike!

I remember one game when Maka laced one up the park from his box - JC ran out the dugout and gave him pelters for booting the ball back to the opposition as he just told him 2 mins before that to throw out to the LB/RB. How do any good footballing sides play, play from the back!!

Ok, he signed a few players that were not so great but he only had so much funds to play with and he was still learning as it was his first job. I think that was one of the reasons he left was that he wanted more cash? Might be wrong!

The director of football takes training ?

[Hermit Crab]

I am going to put a bit money on United to give us a hiding. 4-0 should stem off the pain of defeat.

You could almost write the post match report already.

Especially with Thomson being the ref.

[Delboy4]

The director of football takes training ?

Yip, when he is not away working on TV. He was there most of the pre-season...Yogi lasted 5 mins!! haha:greengrin

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

Using your family as an analogy is a bit much.

It's a football team!!!!!!

The reason people watch sport is to be entertained by people who have a superior skillset and can demonstrate that by competing against other highly skilled individuals. See the Olympics.

Hibs are neither entertaining or capable of competing so why should i waste time watching. I will always support though.

[Part/Time Supporter]

That means nothing, it's the start of the season, they were playing a few 18/19 year old as they have a couple of injuries!

Somehow I don't think the reaction would be quite as phlegmatic on here if Hibs were beaten by a third division team (excepting you know who).

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Manager : John McGlynn (Raith Rovers)

Last season : 5th

In : None

Out : Ian Black, midfielder (Rangers); Suso Santana, midfielder (Tenerife); Adrian Mrowiec, midfielder (Leipzig); Stephen Elliott, forward (Coventry City); Gary Glen, forward (Ross County); Jordan Morton, midfielder (Livingston); Jason Thomson, defender (Raith Rovers, loan made permanent); Chris Kane, midfielder (Dunfermline Athletic); Gary Graham, forward (Clyde); Rudi Skacel, midfielder; Craig Beattie, forward; Marian Kello, goalkeeper; David Obua, midfielder; Aaron Murdoch, midfielder; Chris Tobin, midfielder; Ryan Stewart, midfielder; Colin Hamilton, defender; Matthew Park, defender

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

I fancy us to take something at the weekend. United got a bit of run around at times last night, and although the deflection was cruel, their keeper kept them in the game [why didn't we ever ask the agent that gets their keepers to get one for us?]

That must have taken something out of their legs.

The player we needed to sign in the pre-season was Mr Confidence. We won't know if he has signed until the whistle blows.

[hibees 7062]

Yip, when he is not away working on TV. He was there most of the pre-season...Yogi lasted 5 mins!! haha:greengrin

Brilliant thats the difference eh

[Mikey]

They don't hold off to save a few weeks wages. They do however hold off until the end of the window as players drop their demands as time runs out.


So what you're saying is, he holds off to save a bit of money on wages...:greengrin

Nope!

[hibees 7062]

Manager : John McGlynn (Raith Rovers)

Last season : 5th

In : None

Out : Ian Black, midfielder (Rangers); Suso Santana, midfielder (Tenerife); Adrian Mrowiec, midfielder (Leipzig); Stephen Elliott, forward (Coventry City); Gary Glen, forward (Ross County); Jordan Morton, midfielder (Livingston); Jason Thomson, defender (Raith Rovers, loan made permanent); Chris Kane, midfielder (Dunfermline Athletic); Gary Graham, forward (Clyde); Rudi Skacel, midfielder; Craig Beattie, forward; Marian Kello, goalkeeper; David Obua, midfielder; Aaron Murdoch, midfielder; Chris Tobin, midfielder; Ryan Stewart, midfielder; Colin Hamilton, defender; Matthew Park, defender

We will still bottle it from them :rolleyes:

[Mikey]

Sticks and stones ......

Banter mate ..... Lighten up !!!

Oh and opinions is what it's all about. Would be well boring if every one on here agreed !!!

Keep going the same way if you like. It's your call.

[MrSmith]

Surely Fenlon not falling into the old traps and just buying anyone is a good sign? This is a big rebuild and the next two weeks will prove nothing either way.

Andy, nail on head - "just buying anyone" Again this is where my issue is! Players should have been identified before the end of the season and brought in immediately to ensure we had a successful pre-season! Again, for the last couple of years, this did not happen! So we end up scrapping the barrel for cheap solutions to a massive problem thereby, ensuring the current 'incumbent' falls into that particular trap again ...!

As for the next two weeks proving nothing, I have to disagree with you there! Two losses in two weeks will incur all sorts of problems: irate fans, Fenlon out, not Hibs class, cannae pass a ball, pure pash ... list goes on, until we get to the usual point where players lose 'confidence' becoming scared to play!

So, for me, Here we go again on our season long perpetual cycle of if only! By both sides of the Hibs coin!

[scoopyboy]

I'll be as happy as anyone if Hibs win and then follow up with a win or at least a draw against Hearts, but I just can't see it, that is the point.

We all hope there will be big improvements. The jury is out after a so-so pre-season, both in terms of games played and signings.

I agree 100%.

However lots have made up their mind already.

[carnoustiehibee]

DundeeUtd have lost only one of their last 13 league clashes with #Hibernian (W8 D4).

[Pretty Boy]

Who were these out of interest? Stewart? Brown?

Stewart, Shields, Brown and Sproule were the 3 names mentioned to me by a current player then on the fringes of the 1st team squad.

[Phil MaGlass]

You don't really earn support though, support should be there when its needed! When one of your family is having a bad time do you sit down and assess whether or not they have done enough for you to help them through their difficult time? I doubt it!

Support of something/someone you love should be unconditional, not something that is earned!

When a member of my family is sick we rally round, its the same if Im sick they rally round but with Hibs its all one way.You cant pull the wool over our eyes with quality signings, your club needs you and bull**** forever......

[Delboy4]

Somehow I don't think the reaction would be quite as phlegmatic on here if Hibs were beaten by a third division team (excepting you know who).

Didn't say it didn't matter to them, all I was meaning that it was the start of the season, a cup game and they had 3 or 4 young lads playing in the team...seemingly they did everything but score!

[Hermit Crab]

I agree 100%.

However lots have made up their mind already.

It's the Hibs way unfortunately

[Brooster]

Are the last few pages on this thread for real?

Im sick to the back teeth of the same posters going on and on about the same stuff, fair enough have an opinion but do you continually need to slag the club and everything it does? I wouldnt mind betting that most of these posters hardly ever set foot in Easter Road - I might be wrong but doubt it. And what's this John Collins/Yogi Hughes love in all about? Both were poor managers at Hibs and Collin's signings were particulary bad, in fact I would say they were the worst in recent history ....and thats saying something. I cant see Livi being a success with those 2 at the helm.

[scoopyboy]

My daughter goes out with one of the Livvy players -JC & Yogi have changed the whole way of thinking at the club...the players love it, they love JC's professionalism, when he takes the training he leads from the front!
They cannot believe how fit he is, he could probably still play in that division...

...anyway, the moral of the story is that JC tried to change Hibs into a fitter & football playing team (not hoofball) changing their eating habits, their lifestyle (that's been our problem for years at ER) but the players couldn't recognise what he was up to so they went greetin' to the moustache WHO should have told them to get on their bike!

I remember one game when Maka laced one up the park from his box - JC ran out the dugout and gave him pelters for booting the ball back to the opposition as he just told him 2 mins before that to throw out to the LB/RB. How do any good footballing sides play, play from the back!!

Ok, he signed a few players that were not so great but he only had so much funds to play with and he was still learning as it was his first job. I think that was one of the reasons he left was that he wanted more cash? Might be wrong!

All the players he signed were not so great as you put it, and he wasted plenty good money on AOB, Maka and O'Brien before he had to resort to the urine he brought in latterly.

I hope Yogi and JC do well but I'll wait and see before claiming them to be a success story.

They were both successful with us early doors as well and because players like them and their methods it doesn't guarantee success.

[Spike Mandela]

I agree 100%.

However lots have made up their mind already.

Maybe, doesn't mean they are wrong though Scoopyboy.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Nearly 6 pages since someone "in the know" posted a rumour, I'll never get the last few minutes back! Any chance of getting back on topic?

[scoopyboy]

Maybe, doesn't mean they are wrong though Scoopyboy.

So does that make them right then?

[scoopyboy]

Nearly 6 pages since someone "in the know" posted a rumour, I'll never get the last few minutes back! Any chance of getting back on topic?

I would love to but am hearing brussel sprout.

[Spike Mandela]

Nearly 6 pages since someone "in the know" posted a rumour, I'll never get the last few minutes back! Any chance of getting back on topic?

Ok, gies a rumour then.:cb

These threads only work if there is any bloody rumours.

[Spike Mandela]

So does that make them right then?

Mibbes Aye, mibbes naw.:na na:

[lord bunberry]

DundeeUtd have lost only one of their last 13 league clashes with #Hibernian (W8 D4).

Well after sunday it will be 2 in 14

[Mikey]

Are the last few pages on this thread for real?

Im sick to the back teeth of the same posters going on and on about the same stuff, fair enough have an opinion but do you continually need to slag the club and everything it does?

It is astonishing, isn't it. Constantly talking the club down can do nothing but harm.

[Steve-O]

Well after sunday it will be 2 in 14

Aye 2 goals for United, in the first 14 minutes :offski:

[Lucius Apuleius]

Are the last few pages on this thread for real?

Im sick to the back teeth of the same posters going on and on about the same stuff, fair enough have an opinion but do you continually need to slag the club and everything it does? I wouldnt mind betting that most of these posters hardly ever set foot in Easter Road - I might be wrong but doubt it. And what's this John Collins/Yogi Hughes love in all about? Both were poor managers at Hibs and Collin's signings were particulary bad, in fact I would say they were the worst in recent history ....and thats saying something. I cant see Livi being a success with those 2 at the helm.

And as I said in another thread, if they are not going to the games, as is their entitlement, I hope to hell they are not on the match day thread abusing every bloody pass.

[Phil MaGlass]

Are the last few pages on this thread for real?

Im sick to the back teeth of the same posters going on and on about the same stuff, fair enough have an opinion but do you continually need to slag the club and everything it does? I wouldnt mind betting that most of these posters hardly ever set foot in Easter Road - I might be wrong but doubt it. And what's this John Collins/Yogi Hughes love in all about? Both were poor managers at Hibs and Collin's signings were particulary bad, in fact I would say they were the worst in recent history ....and thats saying something. I cant see Livi being a success with those 2 at the helm.

Wether someone hardly ever sets foot inside ER is actually of little consequence, everyone has an opinion, wether you like it or not, you say "does everyone have to continually need to slag the club" then go on to rip the piss out of Yogi And JC, I take it you just stayed quiet when they were at the helm and stayed quietuntil they left the club, then started ripping into them?
It also irks me that folk type alot of nonsense, I´m one of them, but if you dont wish to see it dont read it, you cant deny there is not alot to complain about at Hibs, 3 new signings after shipping a whole team out the door?
The club still makes statements for us to support them, the club has done absolutely nothing in 3 odd years except get to one SC Cup Final. We have backed them with hard cash for little or no return, alot of posters have had it with Hibs, especially this week, PLEASE OH PLEASE BUY SEASON TICKETS, no sooner had they shifted "hundreds of tickets"they then shafted these fans by having TV shift the games to a sunday yi couldnae ****in make it up, at the moment there are more negative things around Hibs than positive, thats maybe why folk are posting more negative stories:dunno:

Anyhoos I,m looking forward to a new season without the buns and a derby in the second week so bring it on.

[Northernhibee]

Are the last few pages on this thread for real?

Im sick to the back teeth of the same posters going on and on about the same stuff, fair enough have an opinion but do you continually need to slag the club and everything it does? I wouldnt mind betting that most of these posters hardly ever set foot in Easter Road - I might be wrong but doubt it. And what's this John Collins/Yogi Hughes love in all about? Both were poor managers at Hibs and Collin's signings were particulary bad, in fact I would say they were the worst in recent history ....and thats saying something. I cant see Livi being a success with those 2 at the helm.

Very, very true.

I've brought this up a couple of times and been shot down.

FFS, we have a young team. Hanlon, Booth, Stevenson, Stephens, Wotherspoon etc - there's no way that the constant negativity wouldn't affect them. Even seasoned professionals are human and will reach a point where they've had enough.

[Spike Mandela]

Very, very true.

I've brought this up a couple of times and been shot down.

FFS, we have a young team. Hanlon, Booth, Stevenson, Stephens, Wotherspoon etc - there's no way that the constant negativity wouldn't affect them. Even seasoned professionals are human and will reach a point where they've had enough.

Here we go again messageboard negativity is responsible for young players unable to make a simple pass, trap a ball or do the basic defending, midfield or attacking roles effectively.:rolleyes:

[marinello59]

Wether someone hardly ever sets foot inside ER is actually of little consequence, everyone has an opinion, wether you like it or not, you say "does everyone have to continually need to slag the club" then go on to rip the piss out of Yogi And JC, I take it you just stayed quiet when they were at the helm and stayed quietuntil they left the club, then started ripping into them?
It also irks me that folk type alot of nonsense, I´m one of them, but if you dont wish to see it dont read it, you cant deny there is not alot to complain about at Hibs, 3 new signings after shipping a whole team out the door.
The club still makes statements for us to support them, the club has done absolutely nothing in 3 odd years except get to one SC Cup Final. We have backed them with hard cash for little or no return, alot of posters have had it with Hibs, especially this week, PLEASE OH PLEASE BUY SEASON TICKETS, no sooner had they shifted "hundreds of tickets"they then shafted these fans by having TV shift the games to a sunday yi couldnae ****in make it up, at the moment there are more negative things around Hibs than positive, thats maybe why folk are posting more negative stories:dunno:

More? Nope, it's the same thing over and over again. We ALL know the problems. Since when was picking over the same scab anything other than self indulgent. It helps nobody and only serves to drag morale down even further.

[Captain Trips]

Here we go again messageboard negativity is responsible for young players unable to make a simple pass, trap a ball or do the basic defending, midfield or attacking roles effectively.:rolleyes:

Indeed, every game I have been too including final do we not give it plenty as team comes out?, week in week out it is on a plate for players only for 100% themselves to ruin it.

[Northernhibee]

Here we go again messageboard negativity is responsible for young players unable to make a simple pass, trap a ball or do the basic defending, midfield or attacking roles effectively.:rolleyes:

Tell you what, I'll come to your workplace and shout how you're pish week in week out and we'll see how you perform then.

If you're focused on not making mistakes as opposed to making a positive difference, you will make silly little mistakes.

[Captain Trips]

More? Nope, it's the same thing over and over again. We ALL know the problems. Since when was picking over the same scab anything other than self indulgent. It helps nobody and only serves to drag morale down even further.

As the same things are there and not addressed, so you want people to make 1 point and until there is a change post nothing more? Does that go for things deemed positive?

[theonlywayisup]

It is astonishing, isn't it. Constantly talking the club down can do nothing but harm.

Exactly. This year more than ever before (certainly since the Mercer days), our team needs our support. I know things have not gone well recently, but that is in the past. Now is the time to look forward. The team needs our support to build a better future.

When the going gets tough, what do you do?

[Delboy4]

Are the last few pages on this thread for real?

Im sick to the back teeth of the same posters going on and on about the same stuff, fair enough have an opinion but do you continually need to slag the club and everything it does? I wouldnt mind betting that most of these posters hardly ever set foot in Easter Road - I might be wrong but doubt it. And what's this John Collins/Yogi Hughes love in all about? Both were poor managers at Hibs and Collin's signings were particulary bad, in fact I would say they were the worst in recent history ....and thats saying something. I cant see Livi being a success with those 2 at the helm.

No loving for John Collins - just liked how he TRIED to show players how to play, train and live like a professional footballer. He was pi$$ing up against a :brickwall

He is nearly 45 years old and could still play in the lower leagues (my opinion).
Ok he made mistakes along the way, but who doesn't in life!

He did sign some dross too, but that is the Hibs way, sell good players and buy cheap and if you get a good cheap player - sell him to your nearest rivals!

Didier Agathe is probably the best scenario that we let slip! £50k FFS

And by the way, I do go to ER, have done so since I was a boy.

GGTTH
:thumbsup:

[Captain Trips]

Tell you what, I'll come to your workplace and shout how you're pish week in week out and we'll see how you perform then.

If you're focused on not making mistakes as opposed to making a positive difference, you will make silly little mistakes.

and what about folk shouting good stuff? that just ignored? When I am at games aye folk shout but its not 1000s it is some folk and plenty of time it is cancelled out by plenty of applause at times which will be heard far more than any shouts.

If you want to put that into workplace then you cant just select the parts at a game you think, you have to select all so yes I will accept the pay the stick from you as long as I also have the good parts that far far outweigh some folk shouting yer p1sh at matches.

[Delboy4]

Exactly. This year more than ever before (certainly since the Mercer days), our team needs our support. I know things have not gone well recently, but that is in the past. Now is the time to look forward. The team needs our support to build a better future.

When the going gets tough, what do you do?

Play a bit o' Billy Ocean...:greengrin

[Brooster]

Wether someone hardly ever sets foot inside ER is actually of little consequence, everyone has an opinion, wether you like it or not, you say "does everyone have to continually need to slag the club" then go on to rip the piss out of Yogi And JC, I take it you just stayed quiet when they were at the helm and stayed quietuntil they left the club, then started ripping into them?
It also irks me that folk type alot of nonsense, I´m one of them, but if you dont wish to see it dont read it, you cant deny there is not alot to complain about at Hibs, 3 new signings after shipping a whole team out the door?
The club still makes statements for us to support them, the club has done absolutely nothing in 3 odd years except get to one SC Cup Final. We have backed them with hard cash for little or no return, alot of posters have had it with Hibs, especially this week, PLEASE OH PLEASE BUY SEASON TICKETS, no sooner had they shifted "hundreds of tickets"they then shafted these fans by having TV shift the games to a sunday yi couldnae ****in make it up, at the moment there are more negative things around Hibs than positive, thats maybe why folk are posting more negative stories:dunno:

Anyhoos I,m looking forward to a new season without the buns and a derby in the second week so bring it on.

Ive no qualms with folk slagging the club, I get bored when they make the same point over and over. Why slag the lack of signings if you hardly set foot inside ER thus not providing the manager with transfer funds? Who are the 3 new signingswe have made during the summer?

[Northernhibee]

and what about folk shouting good stuff? that just ignored? When I am at games aye folk shout but its not 1000s it is some folk and plenty of time it is cancelled out by plenty of applause at times which will be heard far more than any shouts.

That post was pish. Try harder.

There's howls of derision at every mistake made, some of what I've heard shouted is ridiculous.

I counted about twelve minutes after his debut to the first "YOU'RE *****, CLAROS". Ridiculous scenario.

[Steve-O]

Here we go again messageboard negativity is responsible for young players unable to make a simple pass, trap a ball or do the basic defending, midfield or attacking roles effectively.:rolleyes:

And the same 'youngsters' who have been in the team for FIVE (yes, that's FIVE) years...:rolleyes:

[scoopyboy]

That post was pish. Try harder.

There's howls of derision at every mistake made, some of what I've heard shouted is ridiculous.

I counted about twelve minutes after his debut to the first "YOU'RE *****, CLAROS". Ridiculous scenario.

Twelve minutes isnae bad these days:greengrin

[Spike Mandela]

Tell you what, I'll come to your workplace and shout how you're pish week in week out and we'll see how you perform then.

If you're focused on not making mistakes as opposed to making a positive difference, you will make silly little mistakes.

Yet again people living again in the .net bubble.

Hibs.net is not Hibs and it is not visited by the vast majority of Hibs supporters. Yes there is plenty negativity on this board, people bumping their gums about plenty of topics and some times with good reason but never,NEVER is that same negativity displayed at the games. The crowd always backs the team even in the most humiliating of circumstances like the cup final.

Please don't mistake people letting off steam in here with supporting the team on the terraces.

[Captain Trips]

That post was pish. Try harder.

There's howls of derision at every mistake made, some of what I've heard shouted is ridiculous.

I counted about twelve minutes after his debut to the first "YOU'RE *****, CLAROS". Ridiculous scenario.

Howls of derision will happen no matter where a player plays as will comments, the derision they will hear, I disagree they will always here the your p1shes shouted unless it is all at once which it isnt as it is individuals, again you ignore the plenty of claps on a good pass or shot?

That is the scenario they are aware of so a player takes away just the shouting he gets and nothing else? How often has a player had a shout then 2mins later 20x the amount of folk are clapping a pass, happens in every game.

And you talk of stick, calling peoples posts p1sh, luckily I can handle that unlike footballers eh?

[Hamish]

As this is a rumours thread I just had a look at Pravda aka Football Rumours. Easy seen its the school holidays. Names currently being spraffed about -

Kevin Kyle - ''will sign Friday''
Steven Thompson - ''will sign' 'St Mirren can't afford the last year of his contract'
David Van Zanten and Alan Combe
Stefan Mairhofer - Austrian internationalist


along with Maybury and Kerr there is a long conversation about whether Jason Scotland played as a triaist at Selkirk:greengrin

add to the above, this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siphiwe_Tshabalala from the Rumours site, but a very random name to come up with?

[SMAXXA]

How about we start a new thread purley for signing rumours (No comments allowed) see how many pages that would take up :greengrin

[Baldy Foghorn]

Are the last few pages on this thread for real?

Im sick to the back teeth of the same posters going on and on about the same stuff, fair enough have an opinion but do you continually need to slag the club and everything it does? I wouldnt mind betting that most of these posters hardly ever set foot in Easter Road - I might be wrong but doubt it. And what's this John Collins/Yogi Hughes love in all about? Both were poor managers at Hibs and Collin's signings were particulary bad, in fact I would say they were the worst in recent history ....and thats saying something. I cant see Livi being a success with those 2 at the helm.

Nonsense my good man, Torben Joneleit was a great signing................. :wink:

[marinello59]

As the same things are there and not addressed, so you want people to make 1 point and until there is a change post nothing more? Does that go for things deemed positive?

That's not what I am saying at all and well you know it.

[scoopyboy]

Yet again people living again in the .net bubble.

Hibs.net is not Hibs and it is not visited by the vast majority of Hibs supporters. Yes there is plenty negativity on this board, people bumping their gums about plenty of topics and some times with good reason but never,NEVER is that same negativity displayed at the games. The crowd always backs the team even in the most humiliating of circumstances like the cup final.

Please don't mistake people letting off steam in here with supporting the team on the terraces.

I agree with you Spike except for the bold bit.

If the crowd always back the team how do I hear booing and slagging of the players at ER?

[Captain Trips]

That's not what I am saying at all and well you know it.

What are you saying then?

[Hamish]

How about we start a new thread purley for signing rumours (No comments allowed) see how many pages that would take up :greengrin

I'm trying to get things back on topic but seemingly without much luck:greengrin

[Spike Mandela]

I agree with you Spike except for the bold bit.

If the crowd always back the team how do I hear booing and slagging of the players at ER?

You always get the occasional buffoon at the fitba Scoopy we are all old enough and wise enough to know that there are certain folk we would rather not sit beside but we notice these guys because they are the exception that proves the rule. Nearly everybody in ER on matchday is there willing them to win and backing the team.

[marinello59]

What are you saying then?

Good try. Just read my original post, I am not going to say the same thing over (and over) again. :greengrin

[easty]

add to the above, this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siphiwe_Tshabalala from the Rumours site, but a very random name to come up with?

Not that random if you play football manager. I cheapo signing at the start of the game who is quality.

[PeterboroHibee]

How about we start a new thread purley for signing rumours (No comments allowed) see how many pages that would take up :greengrin

This thread is full of rubbish, but the fans just want new signings, and everything seems to have gone quiet regarding anyone joining the club. Its ridiculous the squad we are taking into a new season.

[Spike Mandela]

I'm trying to get things back on topic but seemingly without much luck:greengrin

The only way to get thread back on track is for someone to post a rumour. If Scoopyboy isn't hearing anything we may as well close the thread.

[Captain Trips]

I agree with you Spike except for the bold bit.

If the crowd always back the team how do I hear booing and slagging of the players at ER?

You will hear slagging and booing but you will hear clapping and encoragement also, I certainly do. Of course folk shout out but IMO in grand scheme of a matchaday, players come out to good cheers as game goes some complain but lots do not and clap, HT will be either the main boo or cheer (apart from a goal) same in 2nd half with again main boo or cheer on final whistle.

Over course of game plenty of far louder claps than shouts of negativity and all this a player will find at any club that is well underperforming.

[Hamish]

Not that random if you play football manager. I cheapo signing at the start of the game who is quality.

Fairy nuff - at my age I am afraid playing Football Manager is not one of my top priorities.:greengrin

[Captain Trips]

Good try. Just read my original post, I am not going to say the same thing over (and over) again. :greengrin

There is no good try. :greengrin

[Beefster]

It is astonishing, isn't it. Constantly talking the club down can do nothing but harm.

Indeed. The leaders of the Scottish game and the SPL chairmen should take note.

[Hamish]

The only way to get thread back on track is for someone to post a rumour. If Scoopyboy isn't hearing anything we may as well close the thread.

Just about to say that - it appears to be very quiet rumours wise.

[scoopyboy]

The only way to get thread back on track is for someone to post a rumour. If Scoopyboy isn't hearing anything we may as well close the thread.

Not strictly true mate:greengrin

Speedway posted up last night one but admit I wished the likes of Brooster, TQM, etc would post rumours as they are generally accurate.

[marinello59]

You will hear slagging and booing but you will hear clapping and encoragement also, I certainly do. Of course folk shout out but IMO in grand scheme of a matchaday, players come out to good cheers as game goes some complain but lots do not and clap, HT will be either the main boo or cheer (apart from a goal) same in 2nd half with again main boo or cheer on final whistle.

Over course of game planty of far louder claps than shouts of negativity and all this a player will find at any club that is well underperforming.

How often were you at ER last season? When things were going wrong the crowd was pretty quick to turn, especially on the chosen whipping boys. A couple of opposition managers commented on how playing at home seemed to work against Hibs for that very reason.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

Surely we'd have to sign up Maybury & Kerr today for them to be eligible sunday?

[marinello59]

Indeed. The leaders of the Scottish game and the SPL chairmen should take note.

:agree: Although I wouldn't call them leaders.

[Spike Mandela]

Not strictly true mate:greengrin

Speedway posted up last night one but admit I wished the likes of Brooster, TQM, etc would post rumours as they are generally accurate.

I ignored the Speedway one in the hope it was some kind of joke about 'terms'. He does like a wind up after all.:wink: disappointing if true imo.

[HibeesLittleHel]

nothing to comment on so all we get is vacuous hyperbole from bored net anoraks.

[ahibby]

Exactly. This year more than ever before (certainly since the Mercer days), our team needs our support. I know things have not gone well recently, but that is in the past. Now is the time to look forward. The team needs our support to build a better future.

When the going gets tough, what do you do?

"Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser" We can't argue with that general idea. The so called happy clappers appear to be saying it's alright to f up year after year otherwise they wouldn't be siding with a club that has seen it's side dipping to the point of relegation when it should be sitting in the top six. I can only accept one of two options one is to complain even if it is only here the other is to accept us performing well below where we should be. That seems to be the two camps on here. I'm doing my best to support the club, I bought my season ticket as soon as they went up on sale, despite everything. However, I won't be quiet when it's obvious that there are people running our club who are not improving the dire situation we are in. I do accept that it could turn out we who complain are being amongst other things premature. However, my gut instinct only occasionally lets me down when it comes to Hibs, and currently I am concerned that we don't have what we need in players, and pre season is over. If our club is looking closely at the other clubs which I guess they will be and if they are settling for being better than one or two so as to save on money and stay up, then they don't meet my expectations. I am no longer a supporter that will follow the club in to the first division (I did the last time) but since then we have become a different club which has had ample opportunity to grow the fan base and continually have failed to do it. That affects you and me. That is not Hibs fault but it is the fault of individuals who are leading and guiding the club. You can't support the club with out supporting those individuals. While the club deserves our support always, those individuals do not,when they are clearly not up to it. This season will show us if they are or are not.

[blackpoolhibs]

Go to any football match, and howls of derision will happen. Hibs are no worse than any other club, but some want to make any excuse other than blame those who are responsible for those howls of derision, and blame the supporters instead?

We'd all like to have a support who got behind the team on match day 100%, and i wish there was no abuse, but we are no different to ANY other teams support.

I have been to watch Blackpool play quite a lot, and their fans are up there with the best in britain at getting behind their club. They have a fantastic atmosphere when going well, but if they are losing its worse than anything i have heard at easter road.

[Leishy1995]

Nish set to end career at hibs. Mark my words....

[Delboy4]

That post was pish. Try harder.

There's howls of derision at every mistake made, some of what I've heard shouted is ridiculous.

I counted about twelve minutes after his debut to the first "YOU'RE *****, CLAROS". Ridiculous scenario.

That's one thing that grinds my back teeth is when so called fans shout abuse at players...I was just about fighting with two brothers in the FF, every week they would slag big Nishy off (no funny comments please) and I mean disgustingly in front of kids too! The thing is the big man probably had his best season that year, he scored a few goals and he set up Fletcher with 5 assists in around a dozen matches .

What gets me, it's usually guys that look like they have never kicked a ball in their whole life that slag our players!!

I played semi pro for years and if I had set foot on the ER turf I would have looked utter sh*te, some people don't understand the level these players are playing at and if they are up against say an internationilst playing for Celtic who are at an even higher level, they look out of sorts.

I have always thought (could I have done better) before shouting anything to make the player feel a fool.

I remember away back when Joe Tortolano got dogs abuse EVERY GAME, maybe not the best player but he was trying his hardest - Me and my brother played in a pre-season friendly against him v Hibs and we seen him 3 times - the start, half time and at the end when shaking hands - he was so fast and great with the ball but when he was in front of the supporters he was sh*t scared to try anything as he was abused so much.

We have to support players, not shout obscenities at them!
Rant over...

GGTTH

:hibees

[Baldy Foghorn]

Nish set to end career at hibs. Mark my words....

Brilliant, when is your show at the Fringe?:greengrin

[Captain Trips]

Go to any football match, and howls of derision will happen. Hibs are no worse than any other club, but some want to make any excuse other than blame those who are responsible for those howls of derision, and blame the supporters instead?

We'd all like to have a support who got behind the team on match day 100%, and i wish there was no abuse, but we are no different to ANY other teams support.

I have been to watch Blackpool play quite a lot, and their fans are up there with the best in britain at getting behind their club. They have a fantastic atmosphere when going well, but if they are losing its worse than anything i have heard at easter road.

Indeed.

[SloopJB]

Nish set to end career at hibs. Mark my words....
I thought he did

[Andy74]

"Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser" We can't argue with that general idea. The so called happy clappers appear to be saying it's alright to f up year after year otherwise they wouldn't be siding with a club that has seen it's side dipping to the point of relegation when it should be sitting in the top six. I can only accept one of two options one is to complain even if it is only here the other is to accept us performing well below where we should be. That seems to be the two camps on here. I'm doing my best to support the club, I bought my season ticket as soon as they went up on sale, despite everything. However, I won't be quiet when it's obvious that there are people running our club who are not improving the dire situation we are in. I do accept that it could turn out we who complain are being amongst other things premature. However, my gut instinct only occasionally lets Ume down when it comes to Hibs, and currently I am concerned that we don't have what we need in players, and pre season is over. If our club is looking closely at the other clubs which I guess they will be and if they are settling for being better than one or two so as to save on money and stay up, then they don't meet my expectations. I am no longer a supporter that will follow the club in to the first division (I did the last time) but since then we have become a different club which has had ample opportunity to grow the fan base and continually have failed to do it. That affects you and me. That is not Hibs fault but it is the fault of individuals who are leading and guiding the club. You can't support the club with out supporting those individuals. While the club deserves our support always, those individuals do not,when they are clearly not up to it. This season will show us if they are or are not.

Stopped reading at your suggestion that anyone is saying its allright not to do well.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Nish set to end career at hibs. Mark my words....

:shocked:
:confused:

:fuming:

:no way:

:wink:

[ahibby]

Go to any football match, and howls of derision will happen. Hibs are no worse than any other club, but some want to make any excuse other than blame those who are responsible for those howls of derision, and blame the supporters instead?

We'd all like to have a support who got behind the team on match day 100%, and i wish there was no abuse, but we are no different to ANY other teams support.

I have been to watch Blackpool play quite a lot, and their fans are up there with the best in britain at getting behind their club. They have a fantastic atmosphere when going well, but if they are losing its worse than anything i have heard at easter road.

You know that's quite a weird thing. While I vent my frustration/anger at the people who are ruining sorry mis spelt that, I meant running our club on here I never shout at one player in any derisory way during or after a match. I have shouted at the entire team when it's obvious they are slacking but not individuals. I find that hard to handle during a game when I hear others pick on individuals . I think the worst I've shouted to a player is when I called out to David Wotherspoon that he'd have to be a bit tougher in his tackles only to see him being substitued minutes later because he was carrying an injury. So i felt like sh**.

[Hermit Crab]

Brilliant, when is your show at the Fringe?:greengrin


I wouldn't pay for it that's for sure 😄

[J-C]

Just about to say that - it appears to be very quiet rumours wise.


:tumble:

[ahibby]

Stopped reading at your suggestion that anyone is saying its allright not to do well.

You've selected one sentence out of a multiple sentences. It's only semantics Andy, people are saying that we shouldn't be so vociferous or words to that affect. So the assumption is if they are not vociferous then they think that all is well. It's a pity you didn't read it all because my main points follow that.

[Phil MaGlass]

Ive been in a few arguments/almost fights at ER, when theres some knob picking on a Hibs player, I will get up and shout my support for the player, I did notice around me there were one or two like minded Hibs supporters who also began to shout encouragement out to the player, the guys who normally are swearing and shouting sit down and shutup when outnumbered, maybe its time to organise?

[ScottB]

If somebody makes a real total screw up, I can appreciate some abuse of sorts in response, but some of it really is ridiculous.


Best example I remember was I think against Gretna, boy behind me spent the first 60 odd minutes chanting for Alan O'Brien to come on, on he comes to much applause from this guy. First touch of the ball, O'Brien miss hits it, same guy immediately roars 'O'BRIEN! YOU'RE F*****G S***E!'


That kind of things is ridiculous, and can't be good for the squad.

[blackpoolhibs]

If somebody makes a real total screw up, I can appreciate some abuse of sorts in response, but some of it really is ridiculous.


Best example I remember was I think against Gretna, boy behind me spent the first 60 odd minutes chanting for Alan O'Brien to come on, on he comes to much applause from this guy. First touch of the ball, O'Brien miss hits it, same guy immediately roars 'O'BRIEN! YOU'RE F*****G S***E!'


That kind of things is ridiculous, and can't be good for the squad.

We can all pick out individual pieces of abuse, i thought Colin Nish was an awful player, and witnessed him getting abuse that stopped him in his tracks, he was visibly shaken by it. Its not right, it shouldn't happen, but we shouldn't think we are the worst at this, or it doesn't happen at each and every other ground in the country.

I think we should do all we can to stop this abuse at the games, it does not help at all.

[Captain Trips]

We can all pick out individual pieces of abuse, i thought Colin Nish was an awful player, and witnessed him getting abuse that stopped him in his tracks, he was visibly shaken by it. Its not right, it shouldn't happen, but we shouldn't think we are the worst at this, or it doesn't happen at each and every other ground in the country.

I think we should do all we can to stop this abuse at the games, it does not help at all.

I think it is getting blown out of proportion, I think and it is IMO most of the shouts from folk not all but most never reach pitch over noise, I think our players will worry about a lot more than some folk shouting yer p1sh.

I agree though some is uncalled for when it is abount non football our before a ball is kicked but during a match IMO I hear more negative single shouts than positive but as a whole when it is group I hear a lot of positives ie clapping, and if I hear on mass booing then I think that is when players need to look at their performance rather than the support at themselves.

[blackpoolhibs]

I think it is getting blown out of proportion, I think and it is IMO most of the shouts from folk not all but most never reach pitch over noise, I think our players will worry about a lot more than some folk shouting yer p1sh.

I agree though some is uncalled for when it is abount non football our before a ball is kicked but during a match IMO I hear more negative single shouts than positive but as a whole when it is group I hear a lot of positives ie clapping, and if I hear on mass booing then I think that is when players need to look at their performance rather than the support at themselves.

:agree:

[Speedway]

And if Hibs win it will simply be a case of "papering over the cracks".

Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

If we beat Utd that's true. If we then go on a 13 game unbeaten run, the bubble will be about to burst. If we get a decent cup run, it will be favourable draws and why can we play like this in the league. If we win the league, Celtic were poor, we'll never be able to repeat it. If we win 21 league titles on the trot and not the 22nd, the .net response will be 'Told you it wouldn't last'.

I think Spike outlined that I like a wind up, which is true and does dilute my more serious posts because of the form that this creates and the reason I have that form is that I love Hibs, come here to discuss Hibs and get so overwhelmed with the absurdity of many of the posts and opinions, I decide to have a wind up or two to cheer myself up.

However, in sobriety and seriousness, Kerr has been offered terms.

[hibeequinn]

Honestly a dont get some hibs fans the season aint even kicked off yet and use are all going on about 4-0 defeats off united beaten off hearts now united have done the best of keeping there squad lost pernis but brought in a new gk who played great last night but hearts have lost a 17goal scorer from last season and brought noone into replace whilst we have a guy who has already proven he can score 10+ so stop with all the bull now we have a good team they just need to focus 100% on every game this season league and cup so dont start all this our squad is crap thread this is meant to be your team why dont use back them all instead off putting them all down :@

[silverhibee]

Go to any football match, and howls of derision will happen. Hibs are no worse than any other club, but some want to make any excuse other than blame those who are responsible for those howls of derision, and blame the supporters instead?

We'd all like to have a support who got behind the team on match day 100%, and i wish there was no abuse, but we are no different to ANY other teams support.

I have been to watch Blackpool play quite a lot, and their fans are up there with the best in britain at getting behind their club. They have a fantastic atmosphere when going well, but if they are losing its worse than anything i have heard at easter road.


Agree with that BH, wins, and the fans are right behind you, keep losing like we are at home and the paying customer will have a good moan about it.

But the way our support turned on Nishy was nothing short of disgusting, i used to sit next to his brother and he would just get up and leave the game before he done something stupid, it went way past booing and shouts of "Nishy stay on your feet", even when he was not playing and a sub warming up folk were giving him dogs abuse from the stands.

Too many kid on managers/players sitting in the stands thinking they could do better when in reality they couldn't, but because they play football manager on a computer game they think they are experts, the best ones are , "I could do better than him he is f***ing s**** and you look at them who are doing the shouting and think to yourself it's quite clear they wouldn't last five minutes on the pitch before collapsing in a pile.

[scoopyboy]

If we beat Utd that's true. If we then go on a 13 game unbeaten run, the bubble will be about to burst. If we get a decent cup run, it will be favourable draws and why can we play like this in the league. If we win the league, Celtic were poor, we'll never be able to repeat it. If we win 21 league titles on the trot and not the 22nd, the .net response will be 'Told you it wouldn't last'.

I think Spike outlined that I like a wind up, which is true and does dilute my more serious posts because of the form that this creates and the reason I have that form is that I love Hibs, come here to discuss Hibs and get so overwhelmed with the absurdity of many of the posts and opinions, I decide to have a wind up or two to cheer myself up.

However, in sobriety and seriousness, Kerr has been offered terms.

Do you think he will accept the terms?

[silverhibee]

That's one thing that grinds my back teeth is when so called fans shout abuse at players...I was just about fighting with two brothers in the FF, every week they would slag big Nishy off (no funny comments please) and I mean disgustingly in front of kids too! The thing is the big man probably had his best season that year, he scored a few goals and he set up Fletcher with 5 assists in around a dozen matches .

What gets me, it's usually guys that look like they have never kicked a ball in their whole life that slag our players!!

I played semi pro for years and if I had set foot on the ER turf I would have looked utter sh*te, some people don't understand the level these players are playing at and if they are up against say an internationilst playing for Celtic who are at an even higher level, they look out of sorts.

I have always thought (could I have done better) before shouting anything to make the player feel a fool.

I remember away back when Joe Tortolano got dogs abuse EVERY GAME, maybe not the best player but he was trying his hardest - Me and my brother played in a pre-season friendly against him v Hibs and we seen him 3 times - the start, half time and at the end when shaking hands - he was so fast and great with the ball but when he was in front of the supporters he was sh*t scared to try anything as he was abused so much.

We have to support players, not shout obscenities at them!
Rant over...

GGTTH

:hibees


:top marks

[Exiled Hibby]

Honestly a dont get some hibs fans the season aint even kicked off yet and use are all going on about 4-0 defeats off united beaten off hearts now united have done the best of keeping there squad lost pernis but brought in a new gk who played great last night but hearts have lost a 17goal scorer from last season and brought noone into replace whilst we have a guy who has already proven he can score 10+ so stop with all the bull now we have a good team they just need to focus 100% on every game this season league and cup so dont start all this our squad is crap thread this is meant to be your team why dont use back them all instead off putting them all down :@

Are the Higher English results out today?:greengrin

[theonlywayisup]

That's one thing that grinds my back teeth is when so called fans shout abuse at players...I was just about fighting with two brothers in the FF, every week they would slag big Nishy off (no funny comments please) and I mean disgustingly in front of kids too! The thing is the big man probably had his best season that year, he scored a few goals and he set up Fletcher with 5 assists in around a dozen matches .

What gets me, it's usually guys that look like they have never kicked a ball in their whole life that slag our players!!

I played semi pro for years and if I had set foot on the ER turf I would have looked utter sh*te, some people don't understand the level these players are playing at and if they are up against say an internationilst playing for Celtic who are at an even higher level, they look out of sorts.

I have always thought (could I have done better) before shouting anything to make the player feel a fool.

I remember away back when Joe Tortolano got dogs abuse EVERY GAME, maybe not the best player but he was trying his hardest - Me and my brother played in a pre-season friendly against him v Hibs and we seen him 3 times - the start, half time and at the end when shaking hands - he was so fast and great with the ball but when he was in front of the supporters he was sh*t scared to try anything as he was abused so much.

We have to support players, not shout obscenities at them!
Rant over...

GGTTH

:hibees

I agree with all that you have said. I would love my wee boy to play for Hibs, but why would I want him to progress a career that is short lived, be the subject of sometimes vicious chants and comments from supporters of other teams and told "your ****" by his own supporters. I would much rather focus his future somewhere else.

[Captain Trips]

I agree with all that you have said. I would love my wee boy to play for Hibs, but why would I want him to progress a career that is short lived, be the subject of sometimes vicious chants and comments from supporters of other teams and told "your ****" by his own supporters. I would much rather focus his future somewhere else.

You not think there are far more positives from being a pro footballer as you have not mentioned one?, I certainly think there are loads.

[goosefat]

Honestly a dont get some hibs fans the season aint even kicked off yet and use are all going on about 4-0 defeats off united beaten off hearts now united have done the best of keeping there squad lost pernis but brought in a new gk who played great last night but hearts have lost a 17goal scorer from last season and brought noone into replace whilst we have a guy who has already proven he can score 10+ so stop with all the bull now we have a good team they just need to focus 100% on every game this season league and cup so dont start all this our squad is crap thread this is meant to be your team why dont use back them all instead off putting them all down :@

Longest sentence ever on hibs.net?

A few well placed commas, full stops and a spell check wouldn't have gone a miss.

:nerd:

I do agree with your comments on the negativity. I think we should at least wait until after the inevitable 4-0 on Sunday before we start moaning.

[goosefat]

Are the Higher English results out today?:greengrin

I'm think they am, yes.

[PatHead]

i fink their out on Tewsday neckx weak

[Crazyhorse]

Are the Higher English results out today?:greengrin

stream of consciousness - excellent example of that narrative mode from Hibbyquinn.

[brydekirk]

i fink their out on Tewsday neckx weak

U kanni spoke proper england.

[SMAXXA]

I hate this thread :wink:

[silverhibee]

I think it is getting blown out of proportion, I think and it is IMO most of the shouts from folk not all but most never reach pitch over noise, I think our players will worry about a lot more than some folk shouting yer p1sh.

I agree though some is uncalled for when it is abount non football our before a ball is kicked but during a match IMO I hear more negative single shouts than positive but as a whole when it is group I hear a lot of positives ie clapping, and if I hear on mass booing then I think that is when players need to look at their performance rather than the support at themselves.


Most players just turn there self's of to the noise /abuse that they get from home and away supporters, but there is that minority of players who do hear it and when it is coming from there own supporters they are affected by it and it does affect how they play, a wee example would be a player who would normally run at players and take them on and go past them, but it's not been happening for that player on the day and he starts getting abuse, rather than take players on he will probably resort to just playing it safe and make a short pass to a team mate instead, it drains there confidence and when that happens they start making mistakes on the pitch.

As i have previously said we have to many Messi's/Special Ones sitting in the stand thinking and shouting they could do better, they should keep there thoughts to there self's and do what they are there to do, SUPPORT THE TEAM.

[Leishy1995]

Brilliant, when is your show at the Fringe?:greengrin

Not got one. This is pure facts. He will end his career as a footballer at hibs.

[marinello59]

Most players just turn there self's of to the noise /abuse that they get from home and away supporters, but there is that minority of players who do hear it and when it is coming from there own supporters they are affected by it and it does affect how they play, a wee example would be a player who would normally run at players and take them on and go past them, but it's not been happening for that player on the day and he starts getting abuse, rather than take players on he will probably resort to just playing it safe and make a short pass to a team mate instead, it drains there confidence and when that happens they start making mistakes on the pitch.

As i have previously said we have to many Messi's/Special Ones sitting in the stand thinking and shouting they could do better, they should keep there thoughts to there self's and do what they are there to do, SUPPORT THE TEAM.

:top marks

[Crazyhorse]

Most players just turn there self's of to the noise /abuse that they get from home and away supporters, but there is that minority of players who do hear it and when it is coming from there own supporters they are affected by it and it does affect how they play, a wee example would be a player who would normally run at players and take them on and go past them, but it's not been happening for that player on the day and he starts getting abuse, rather than take players on he will probably resort to just playing it safe and make a short pass to a team mate instead, it drains there confidence and when that happens they start making mistakes on the pitch.

As i have previously said we have to many Messi's/Special Ones sitting in the stand thinking and shouting they could do better, they should keep there thoughts to there self's and do what they are there to do, SUPPORT THE TEAM.

+1

[blackpoolhibs]

Most players just turn there self's of to the noise /abuse that they get from home and away supporters, but there is that minority of players who do hear it and when it is coming from there own supporters they are affected by it and it does affect how they play, a wee example would be a player who would normally run at players and take them on and go past them, but it's not been happening for that player on the day and he starts getting abuse, rather than take players on he will probably resort to just playing it safe and make a short pass to a team mate instead, it drains there confidence and when that happens they start making mistakes on the pitch.

As i have previously said we have to many Messi's/Special Ones sitting in the stand thinking and shouting they could do better, they should keep there thoughts to there self's and do what they are there to do, SUPPORT THE TEAM.

Cant argue with any of that, and in the normal run of things abuse of any kind is completely wrong. I am not condoning it at all, and some of the things i have heard is just wrong, and these idiots need a good slap.

Section 43 have tried their best to improve this, and we need more to join in. Folk will groan at times, and thats understandable. We need to stand up to the clowns that are abusing the team/players.

We all say ah FFS what are you doing, but those who are personal, and are giving any player personal stick should be confronted by us the fans, dont let them win, dont let them bring the players down.

[goosefat]

stream of consciousness - excellent example of that narrative mode from Hibbyquinn.
I wouldn't necessarily say “consciousness”, but his post certainly was a stream of something.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Not got one. This is pure facts. He will end his career as a footballer at hibs.

If you are fishing, you are reeling me in well.....No danger will Nish return to Hibs......:rolleyes:

[sleeping giant]

Not strictly true mate:greengrin

Speedway posted up last night one but admit I wished the likes of Brooster, TQM, etc would post rumours as they are generally accurate.

:hilarious

I'll open a thread straight away thats started by Brooster ,Truehibernian or your goodself.

[HibbyAndy]

:hilarious

I'll open a thread straight away thats started by Brooster ,Truehibernian or your goodself.


:hilarious

:thumbsup:

[Pretty Boy]

If you are fishing, you are reeling me in well.....No danger will Nish return to Hibs......:rolleyes:

Dunno.

I saw him in Musselburgh the other week.

The fact his parents live there and he may have just been visiting them is a smokescree. He was really meeting Rod at the local poundland where they went halves on a jar of coffee and Rod asked if Colins mum could boil the kettle for them to save on his electricity bill.

True story. FACT.

[H1B33 1875]

Most players just turn there self's of to the noise /abuse that they get from home and away supporters, but there is that minority of players who do hear it and when it is coming from there own supporters they are affected by it and it does affect how they play, a wee example would be a player who would normally run at players and take them on and go past them, but it's not been happening for that player on the day and he starts getting abuse, rather than take players on he will probably resort to just playing it safe and make a short pass to a team mate instead, it drains there confidence and when that happens they start making mistakes on the pitch.

As i have previously said we have to many Messi's/Special Ones sitting in the stand thinking and shouting they could do better, they should keep there thoughts to there self's and do what they are there to do, SUPPORT THE TEAM.

:top marksBest post ive seen on here in years! Booth and Wotherspoon have both suffered from dips in confidence, im sure once the confidence is back we'll see 2 brilliant players.

[Thecat23]

Not got one. This is pure facts. He will end his career as a footballer at hibs.

I'm going to ask the most simple question that know one seems to have asked. Do Hibs want him? I'm I the only one thinking that they prob don't? So whether he "thinks" he will end his career at Hibs is errelivant if Pat isn't interested or any other manager. Nish for me will never play for Hibs again unless it's some charity thing.

[scoopyboy]

Most players just turn there self's of to the noise /abuse that they get from home and away supporters, but there is that minority of players who do hear it and when it is coming from there own supporters they are affected by it and it does affect how they play, a wee example would be a player who would normally run at players and take them on and go past them, but it's not been happening for that player on the day and he starts getting abuse, rather than take players on he will probably resort to just playing it safe and make a short pass to a team mate instead, it drains there confidence and when that happens they start making mistakes on the pitch.

As i have previously said we have to many Messi's/Special Ones sitting in the stand thinking and shouting they could do better, they should keep there thoughts to there self's and do what they are there to do, SUPPORT THE TEAM.

Well said Silv.

I have often thought that people who can't comprehend what you are putting across are guys who haven't played a sport at a high level.

Some players can shrug off any amount of criticism and it doesn't affect them one bit, however others are more sensitive and it can affect them.

It doesn't make them bad players but I don't think our own fans should risk upsetting them, at the end of the day it only benefits the opposition.

[matty_f]

Well said Silv.

I have often thought that people who can't comprehend what you are putting across are guys who haven't played a sport at a high level.

Some players can shrug off any amount of criticism and it doesn't affect them one bit, however others are more sensitive and it can affect them.

It doesn't make them bad players but I don't think our own fans should risk upsetting them, at the end of the day it only benefits the opposition.

We must be about the only ground in the SPL that gives our own team a harder time than we give the away team. :agree:

[erin go bragh]

Most players just turn there self's of to the noise /abuse that they get from home and away supporters, but there is that minority of players who do hear it and when it is coming from there own supporters they are affected by it and it does affect how they play, a wee example would be a player who would normally run at players and take them on and go past them, but it's not been happening for that player on the day and he starts getting abuse, rather than take players on he will probably resort to just playing it safe and make a short pass to a team mate instead, it drains there confidence and when that happens they start making mistakes on the pitch.

As i have previously said we have to many Messi's/Special Ones sitting in the stand thinking and shouting they could do better, they should keep there thoughts to there self's and do what they are there to do, SUPPORT THE TEAM.
Agree 100% ,really does my head in when our own fans turn on their own players ,
why some of them bother going is beyond me .

ggtth

[blackpoolhibs]

We must be about the only ground in the SPL that gives our own team a harder time than we give the away team. :agree:

I disagree, Scottish fans as a whole are fickle. We are all the same when winning or losing in my opinion.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Dunno.

I saw him in Musselburgh the other week.

The fact his parents live there and he may have just been visiting them is a smokescree. He was really meeting Rod at the local poundland where they went halves on a jar of coffee and Rod asked if Colins mum could boil the kettle for them to save on his electricity bill.

True story. FACT.

:greengrin:greengrin

You were doing well until you stated RP went dutch, RP has never went halves in his life......

[Baldy Foghorn]

Agree 100% ,really does my head in when our own fans turn on their own players ,
why some of them bother going is beyond me .

ggtth

:agree:

I can never understand it either, spending time venting their spleen and berating their own players........Support means just that....

[Bostonhibby]

If somebody makes a real total screw up, I can appreciate some abuse of sorts in response, but some of it really is ridiculous.


Best example I remember was I think against Gretna, boy behind me spent the first 60 odd minutes chanting for Alan O'Brien to come on, on he comes to much applause from this guy. First touch of the ball, O'Brien miss hits it, same guy immediately roars 'O'BRIEN! YOU'RE F*****G S***E!'


That kind of things is ridiculous, and can't be good for the squad.

:agree: What was the point in waiting for the first touch in AOB's case, not Hibs class booing at all............

[Spike Mandela]

Reading between lines of this interview Kerr and Maybury sound like options should other targets fall through.:aok:

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/hibernian/113765-pat-fenlon-i-need-stronger-squad-to-challenge-for-top-six-spot/

[Heisenberg]

Reading between lines of this interview Kerr and Maybury sound like options should other targets fall through.:aok:

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/hibernian/113765-pat-fenlon-i-need-stronger-squad-to-challenge-for-top-six-spot/

Hopefully we can get a couple in next week then, still hopeful we will have a decent looking squad by the end of the window.

[The Falcon]

By not backing the manager against the players when he had just won us the cis cup first cup since 1991.
Collins tried to change culture of club get the players to be proper pros and the players didnt like it.
Collins wanted the players to be total professionals to me there is nothing wrong with that.
Collins also wanted the players to study the game be at training early in morning and not leave until 4-5 oclock in the day and agian the players didnt like it they went to petrie and instead of telling them to bolt if they didnt like new ideas there is the door he had meeting with them did he not.
Since then the club has had a softness about it and that is part of the problem.


How did he not back Collins?

Stewart was basically sacked and others were moved on pretty sharpish. Rob Jones issued a public apology and Collins himself made a statement to say that, with all the nonsense being spouted, he was being fully backed and remained in post for another 8 months.

There is a school of thought that by excluding Stewart he limited Hibs chances of winning the replay but we will never know. Collins had good ideas re personal fitness and if most pro's had half of Collins attitude to training they would have double what they already have but, when it came to man management he was, reported by some of the players, a tool. I hope he has learned that bit as he has a lot to offer.

[R'Albin]

That's good news that Fenlon seems to have other targets - apart from 1 or 2 rumours there didn't seem to be anything going on outside of Kerr and Maybury.

Going by the current SPL I reckon we are only a couple of decent quality players away from being able to mount a European challenge. Our team is crap but thankfully so is everyone else's.

[andrew70]

@MFCFacebook: Former Middlesbrough striker Lee Miller scores an equaliser for Carlisle. Carlisle 1-1 Boro

[easty]

How did he not back Collins?

Stewart was basically sacked and others were moved on pretty sharpish. Rob Jones issued a public apology and Collins himself made a statement to say that, with all the nonsense being spouted, he was being fully backed and remained in post for another 8 months.

There is a school of thought that by excluding Stewart he limited Hibs chances of winning the replay but we will never know. Collins had good ideas re personal fitness and if most pro's had half of Collins attitude to training they would have double what they already have but, when it came to man management he was, reported by some of the players, a tool. I hope he has learned that bit as he has a lot to offer.

I dinnae care what happened after the meeting, the fact that Petrie entertained those players behind Collins back is enough for me to think that he wasn't backed sufficiently. It was a poor decision by Petrie, if he had properly backed Collins he would have dealt with the situation differently.

[easty]

Oh and just realised this is the transfer rumours thread, what the **** am I banging on about Petrie and Collins for???

[frazeHFC]

Oh and just realised this is the transfer rumours thread, what the **** am I banging on about Petrie and Collins for???

Just get a cup of tea, chill, and make up a cool rumour for us all to argue about like Colin Samuel coming to Hibs or something. :greengrin



I agree with R'Albin, i am not too optimistic about our team playing any sort of decent football, or looking a good team, but there are not any other teams that are standing out to me like there usually is. Should be a tighter league i think (bar Celtic most likely) so hopefully we can pick up results and get some home form going.

[mcfly]

Dunno.

I saw him in Musselburgh the other week.

The fact his parents live there and he may have just been visiting them is a smokescree. He was really meeting Rod at the local poundland where they went halves on a jar of coffee and Rod asked if Colins mum could boil the kettle for them to save on his electricity bill.

True story. FACT.

What a load of rubbish. Pathetic post on a hibs rumours thread. Does anyone have anything real of interest to post on this subject???

[S4uzee]

Reading between lines of this interview Kerr and Maybury sound like options should other targets fall through.:aok:

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/hibernian/113765-pat-fenlon-i-need-stronger-squad-to-challenge-for-top-six-spot/
Very disapointing as this was the time for hibs to push the boat out a bit for once

[J-C]

Most players just turn there self's of to the noise /abuse that they get from home and away supporters, but there is that minority of players who do hear it and when it is coming from there own supporters they are affected by it and it does affect how they play, a wee example would be a player who would normally run at players and take them on and go past them, but it's not been happening for that player on the day and he starts getting abuse, rather than take players on he will probably resort to just playing it safe and make a short pass to a team mate instead, it drains there confidence and when that happens they start making mistakes on the pitch.

As i have previously said we have to many Messi's/Special Ones sitting in the stand thinking and shouting they could do better, they should keep there thoughts to there self's and do what they are there to do, SUPPORT THE TEAM.

Can't really argue with that, I will add though it's generally the younger players it affects, players who've yet to get enough experience to deal with these situations.

I also think certain managers can have the same effects on these players by either playing them out of position, expecting too much too soon, or even the way they treated on the training pitch ( Yogi )

We all talk great games but 99.9% have never played at a level that can really allow us to comment, unless we are privvy to all that goes on behind the gates at ER, then we can't really say too much.

[1875STEVE]

Very disapointing as this was the time for hibs to push the boat out a bit for once

Dissapointed that Maybury and Kerr will only get deals if there is enough left over??

Im delighted, it suggests he has better tragets in mind, and that the above to will be used as squad players if signed.

IMO Kerr and Maybury are ok as back up's and nowt else.

[S4uzee]

Dissapointed that Maybury and Kerr will only get deals if there is enough left over??

Im delighted, it suggests he has better tragets in mind, and that the above to will be used as squad players if signed.

IMO Kerr and Maybury are ok as back up's and nowt else.

I was meaning the stv link regarding missing out on 3/4 'quality' players due to finance again

[1875STEVE]

I was meaning the stv link regarding missing out on 3/4 'quality' players due to finance again

Ah rite, but who is the quality players???

Celtic and Hearts have not signed anyone, and we pay as much as the other teams in the SPL.

It suggests the targets were either in England, which we can compete with or Rangers.

If it's correct that SHiels is on 7k a week and Black about the same, there is no way we can compete with that.

[J-C]

I was meaning the stv link regarding missing out on 3/4 'quality' players due to finance again


I think it's taken that our wage budget aint gonna be huge, so we're looking at 1-2k per player, quality ones will be looking for double, if not treble that, it's the way of the world and we have to watch the pennies nowadays.

[steakbake]

Adam le Fondre, anyone? Or what about the Showunmi brothers?