Gordon, Kensell, Mackay and co..times up

[007]

Can’t say it’s turned round until it’s profitable. Very easy in business to spend £2 to make £1. Much harder to do the reverse.
So far all the new hospitality has done is cost money, not bring it in.


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I'd be interested to see the figures for the hospitality, please can you share them with us.

[jeffers]

One of those being Ekpiteta, who's proving to be one of the best signings in the summer.

He’s certainly looking decent. Point is if MM gets credit for him signing then he can’t come out and blame BMcD for everything else that went wrong in the summer. He was either involved or he wasn’t.

[HoboHarry]

I'd be interested to see the figures for the hospitality, please can you share them with us.
You might be waiting a while :greengrin

[matty_f]

He’s certainly looking decent. Point is if MM gets credit for him signing then he can’t come out and blame BMcD for everything else that went wrong in the summer. He was either involved or he wasn’t.

I don’t think he’s looked for credit or blame either way.

[jeffers]

I don’t think he’s looked for credit or blame either way.

Maybe not publicly.

[matty_f]

Maybe not publicly.

Better that way, folk would go radge if he was doing it publicly.

[jeffers]

Better that way, folk would go radge if he was doing it publicly.

Yeah I agree.

[McD]

One of the teams he’s in charge of has performed significantly better.

The other one, which we pay our money to watch, has been hugely negatively impacted because of decisions him and his management team take and has probably cost us more in lost prize money and wasted wages than anything the commercial team has brought in.

Only ever had the CV to be appointed Commercial Director but unfortunately the lack of due diligence from all in the Gordon family has led to an awful football team burning through resources, undoing all the good that has been delivered off the pitch.

Can only hope once we have someone qualified and credible in the top job at the club we can maintain the enhanced revenue, implement a proper football strategy and start to bring in the players the club needs to be a success on the only true metric that matters to the fans.

If that can happen then not all Kensell’s work will be in vain.



Eh? He was already the COO at Norwich, which he was promoted to from commercial Director, he was COO for years before he came to us. By definition his CV said he was behind commercial director.

[McD]

Happy for clubs like Motherwell to take a punt on these roles but not us.

Largely they’ve either been a CEO with years of relevant experience leading an entire organisation successfully or they’ve worked their way up within the org understanding exactly where they feel things can be done better.

BK sold advertising space at Norwich and that was apparently enough experience to be our CEO?

Maloney put out the cones for Belgium and that was enough to become our manager.

Malky had no real relevant experience as a sporting director - don’t believe his role at the SFA or as manager suggests he would hit the ground running in his current role.

Gray is a club legend but all he has done is learn how to do the role badly 3 times plus some time under Ross.

Could have got away with LJ or NM if the rest of the club was on sound footing but unfortunately for them they joined a leaderless mess.

David Marshall hung up his gloves and instantly given a senior role at the club.

Ian Gordon used to sell wine.

The only thing consistent about the appointments under the Gordons is the criminal lack of due diligence before appointing to critical roles - can get away with that for roles here and there but it’s literally every appointment.


Now you’re just making stuff up - have you even looked at his previous career?

[007]

You might be waiting a while :greengrin

I wonder why. 🤔

[MrSmith]

Oh well it's the end of the week and nothing has happened so I guess nothing will and we will remain the same as last week.

[greenpaper55]

Oh well it's the end of the week and nothing has happened so I guess nothing will and we will remain the same as last week.

Yes, suddenly nothing happened 😂

[IWasThere2016]

Wonder what they are presenting as stats and current form don't lie really wish the Foley Group would take over

Yup, I agree

[El Gubbz]

Eh? He was already the COO at Norwich, which he was promoted to from commercial Director, he was COO for years before he came to us. By definition his CV said he was behind commercial director.

One man’s COO is another man’s DOC

Maybe a bit harsh on his CV but why do we have a fetish with giving everyone their first chance at a promoted post? What’s so wrong with taking someone who’s built up a reputation in a similar role at a “lesser” club and give them a pay rise?

Maybe under an owner who understood Scottish football BK wouldn’t have made half the mistakes he has but we’ve been a decision making disasterclass on all but advertising and hospitality. Shame we’re a football club.

[BoyledEgg]

Can’t say it’s turned round until it’s profitable. Very easy in business to spend £2 to make £1. Much harder to do the reverse.
So far all the new hospitality has done is cost money, not bring it in.


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Absolute rubbish. The West Stand hospitality has already paid for itself, and the North Stand hospitality won’t take long either.

[Stuart93]

Absolute rubbish. The West Stand hospitality has already paid for itself, and the North Stand hospitality won’t take long either.

Has it though? Have you got the numbers to back that up?

[7Hero]

Absolute rubbish. The West Stand hospitality has already paid for itself, and the North Stand hospitality won’t take long either.

as long as we are losing money nothing is paying for itself...

[Alfred E Newman]

as long as we are losing money nothing is paying for itself...

:agree:
cutting our losses.

[superfurryhibby]

Has it though? Have you got the numbers to back that up?

Of course they don't , it's obvious bull****.

[BoyledEgg]

as long as we are losing money nothing is paying for itself...

Hospitality isn’t losing money.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Of course they don't , it's obvious bull****.

Do you have the numbers to back that up?

[CentreLine]

Do you have the numbers to back that up?

I certainly don’t have any numbers but since it’s franchised out then the club fee is fixed and unlikely not to cover our initial outlay.

I suppose the big question would be whether the company holding the franchise is making money. The fact they were content enough with The Albion Bar to be fully engaged with the facilities in the FF stand, suggests they are making money.

Someone will have the figures but time and next years accounts will tell.

[Keith_M]

So any news of this imminent takeover?

[Eyrie]

Whether or not there have been any discussions about a take over, it wouldn't happen overnight.

But based on the reports what is happening is that the Black Knights are having more input in the footballing decisions which is good news given that past decisions have clearly not worked despite being well intentioned.

That would suit the Black Knights as they wouldn't need to spend money buying the club but instead can provide funds to the football operations whilst still having control over how that money is spent. Still pocket change to them though.

[007]

as long as we are losing money nothing is paying for itself...

That's wrong. All parts of a business could be profitable except for one which is making a greater loss than the profits of the rest put together.

[Jock O]

I think some people need to read FranK Wood's amazing best seller.

[ancient hibee]

Whether or not there have been any discussions about a take over, it wouldn't happen overnight.

But based on the reports what is happening is that the Black Knights are having more input in the footballing decisions which is good news given that past decisions have clearly not worked despite being well intentioned.

That would suit the Black Knights as they wouldn't need to spend money buying the club but instead can provide funds to the football operations whilst still having control over how that money is spent. Still pocket change to them though.t

Reports from who?

[DarlingtonHibee]

I certainly don’t have any numbers but since it’s franchised out then the club fee is fixed and unlikely not to cover our initial outlay.

I suppose the big question would be whether the company holding the franchise is making money. The fact they were content enough with The Albion Bar to be fully engaged with the facilities in the FF stand, suggests they are making money.

Someone will have the figures but time and next years accounts will tell.

Stop making sense 😊

Don't you know the conspiracy theorists know better 😏

[HibeeHendo]

Getting eviscerated on Sportsound

[Carheenlea]

A Hibs win today and the black armbands will be getting looked out for the post match gloom on Sportsound.

Another incentive to get that elusive win this afternoon.

[DarlingtonHibee]

A Hibs win today and the black armbands will be getting looked out for the post match gloom on Sportsound.

Another incentive to get that elusive win this afternoon.
This, very well said 👏

[Booker5time]

A Hibs win today and the black armbands will be getting looked out for the post match gloom on Sportsound.

Another incentive to get that elusive win this afternoon.

Haven't said anything that not been said on here, in fact you could say they went pretty easy on david grey. More than he deserves

[MWHIBBIES]

Cheers Ron, this is your legacy.

[Since452]

They are ****ing killing our club

[Paulie Walnuts]

Get to ****.

[SteveHFC]

Get them gone.

[makaveli1875]

A Hibs win today and the black armbands will be getting looked out for the post match gloom on Sportsound.

Another incentive to get that elusive win this afternoon.

We're not winning today

[ChuckNor]

If this ends with a loss (it will) then surely there are protests outside the ground against the golden quadrant? We can’t be passive anymore.

[eastmainsmsh]

There was only one Albion Bar ram your yuppie hospitality Kensell and GTF you charlatan

[Gatecrasher]

Just remember who has lead us to this.

[we are hibs]

How lucky are we to have the golden quadrant at our club [emoji57]

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[SHODAN]

Get them out. Get them the **** out NOW.

[we are hibs]

Get them out. Get them the **** out NOW.Okay but what's YOUR business plan to get them out? Who do you want to take over? Names and addresses of all potential buyers please

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[Joe6-2]

GTF NOW, everyone of them

[Paulie Walnuts]

Get to ****.

[Stuart93]

Kensell needs to be first out the door behind Gray at the absolute minimum.

[ionahibby]

Macpherson is the problem if we look deeper.

[ChuckNor]

Watching that today you can see how piss poor the recruitment has been. Malky, Marshall don’t let the door hit you on the way out you complete and utter failures. Kensell - you are the worst thing that has happened to this football club since the mismanagement that led to an attempt on its life by Mercer. Gray, sorry big man. Leave now and you can stay a legend.

[Unseen work]

It’s actually frightening was has happened to our club in such a short space of time

[Golden Bear]

Okay but what's YOUR business plan to get them out? Who do you want to take over? Names and addresses of all potential buyers please

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That's it exactly.

It's easy to criticise but to come up with a realistic alternative is the difficult part.

[Murphys Touch]

Malky
Gordon
Marshall (honesty wtf)

I urge anyone looking at Hibs’ LinkedIn page and then listen to David Moyes on this weeks’ “Stick to Football”

We hard director of football, director of performances, head of recruitment, head of talent, head of talent analytics etc etc etc

We need a ****ing manager

[CMac1988]

Macpherson is the problem if we look deeper.

Can't stand the guy. Should be the first out the door alongside our stupendously paid CEO. Neither has shown any of the qualities required to run a successful football team. The rest of the board should be evaluated with Black Knights given the reign for the rest of the season with the Gordon's stepping back.

[we are hibs]

That's it exactly.

It's easy to criticise but to come up with a realistic alternative is the difficult part.I was being sarcastic. There's plenty realistic alternatives. Unless Ian Gordon lied to us all (again)

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[WeAreHibs]

Can't stand the guy. Should be the first out the door from the alongside our stupendously paid CEO. Neither has shown any of the qualities required to run a successful football team. The rest of the board should be evaluated with Black Knights given the reign for the rest of the season with the Gordon's stepping back.

Agreed!

[Golden Bear]

I was being sarcastic. There's plenty realistic alternatives. Unless Ian Gordon lied to us all (again)

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Such as ?

[Hibs90]

This is your weekly reminder of who is responsible for this mess. We are going down.

Gordon
Kensell
Mackay
The board.

Look, Gray has made mistakes absolutely, and you can look at individual results and performances and VAR decisions and that's fine in the context of those games and yeah probably should be sacked but nothing will change. This club is trending downwards and that's on the owners and the board. It doesn't matter who the manager is.

[MWHIBBIES]

Macpherson is the problem if we look deeper.

He's not. Every single ****ing idiot at our club works for Ian Gordon. He is the problem.

[The Tubs]

It's like Leeds under Risdale on a smaller scale. We're destined to go down.

[Chorley Hibee]

That fraud Kensell has trousered the best part of a million quid since he arrived, all whilst posting some of the worst accounts we've seen in years.

So don't try and tell me what a success he's making off the park either.

The Gordon family, Kensell, McKay and McPherson all need removed ASAP.

[mcohibs]

Just **** off you absolute charlatans

[Stuart93]

What we need is another review.

That worked so well.

[Unseen work]

What we need is another review.

That worked so well.

The ignorance to get someone like the black knights on board, to conduct a review and then ignore all of their recommendations is just mental isn’t it

Absolutely mental

[Centre Hawf]

This is your weekly reminder of who is responsible for this mess. We are going down.

Gordon
Kensell
Mackay
The board.

Look, Gray has made mistakes absolutely, and you can look at individual results and performances and VAR decisions and that's fine in the context of those games and yeah probably should be sacked but nothing will change. This club is trending downwards and that's on the owners and the board. It doesn't matter who the manager is.

Gray should go too, but I hold no ill will to him. He probably wasn't the right man regardless, but he had no chance to succeed working under this lot. Every single one of them a fraud and should be nowhere near a football club again let alone be allowed to remain at ours.

I can't stand any of them and this club absolutely ****ed because of them all. At least if Gray goes now he can still come back for the anniversary dinners in a few years.

[K-Zazu]

The LinkedIn boys club.

[Stuart93]

The ignorance to get someone like the black knights on board, to conduct a review and then ignore all of their recommendations is just mental isn’t it

Absolutely mental

It’s completely understandable when you’ve got the jokers in charge that we do.

[jeffers]

What we need is another review.

That worked so well.

Was a review really carried out ? I have my doubts.

[Real Emerald]

Gray should go too, but I hold no ill will to him. He probably wasn't the right man regardless, but he had no chance to succeed working under this lot. Every single one of them a fraud and should be nowhere near a football club again let alone be allowed to remain at ours.

I can't stand any of them and this club absolutely ****ed because of them all. At least if Gray goes now he can still come back for the anniversary dinners in a few years.

The whole lot need to go, whoever thought a team of rookies was the best thing
for Hibs should never set foot in the place again. No one seems to have a clue what we’re doing on the football side, disgraceful management and an anonymous director of football.

[MWHIBBIES]

The LinkedIn boys club.

Abraham LinkedIn

[Chorley Hibee]

Was a review really carried out ? I have my doubts.

I don't believe there was any review.

It was yet another smoke and mirrors episode.

[SteveHFC]

The LinkedIn boys club.

When’s the tour?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Was a review really carried out ? I have my doubts.

Have said the same myself.

[kentao]

Before anyone goes I want to know who is responsible for the bursik signing, whoever recommended him needs to go first.

[Hibiza]

Black Knights : help .

[Fergos]

Okay but what's YOUR business plan to get them out? Who do you want to take over? Names and addresses of all potential buyers please

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So as supporters we have to have a business plan if we aren’t happy with how the clubs been ran and are of the opinion that change is required?

Aye ok. Ridiculous.

Edit…Sorry ive seen your later posts re sarcastic. In light of this I agree with you! Get them out.

[Fergos]

That's it exactly.

It's easy to criticise but to come up with a realistic alternative is the difficult part.

He’s entitled to his opinion which I agree with. He doesn’t have to have a business plan or list of alternatives to know that the Gordons need to go based on 5 years of footballing incompetence.

[Hibs90]

It's about the right time we started seeing some resignations from the board

[Heisenberg]

Has Ian Gordon chucked it? Not been at a game for ages. Almost like he knew what was coming and he’s left Ben and Malky to face the abuse of which there was apparently plenty yesterday afternoon.

[we are hibs]

Has Ian Gordon chucked it? Not been at a game for ages. Almost like he knew what was coming and he’s left Ben and Malky to face the abuse of which there was apparently plenty yesterday afternoon.Wouldn't be a surprise if he's shat it. He knows full well most of this falls on his shoulders, even if those around him won't tell him.

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[Paulie Walnuts]

Has Ian Gordon chucked it? Not been at a game for ages. Almost like he knew what was coming and he’s left Ben and Malky to face the abuse of which there was apparently plenty yesterday afternoon.

Hoping so.

He used to be at all the games, at least at home, didn’t he?

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I imagine a typical day for Ian would be walking into the building, barely anyone acknowledging him, pouring his own coffee and just sitting in his office all day scouring databases for players, occasionally sending an email asking someone to do something to show he is the boss, eating his lunch at his desk, cutting short any conversation anyone has with him because he has no idea what he’s talking about and doesn’t want to get found out and then submitting a spreadsheet of players he’s scouted to the recruitment analysts at 4.59pm asking them to add these players to the shortlist.

[Leitherhibs]

2 x threads that bring the mismanagement into sharp focus

https://x.com/downtheslope1/status/1855323720077680832?s=46

https://x.com/downtheslope1/status/1855324927647154207?s=46

[JohnM1875]

2 x threads that bring the mismanagement into sharp focus

https://x.com/downtheslope1/status/1855323720077680832?s=46

https://x.com/downtheslope1/status/1855324927647154207?s=46

Do they not all want to keep Gray and you’re ’simpleton’ if you think Gray is the problem?

[Paulie Walnuts]

2 x threads that bring the mismanagement into sharp focus

https://x.com/downtheslope1/status/1855323720077680832?s=46

https://x.com/downtheslope1/status/1855324927647154207?s=46

Nice people though. Careful what you wish for.

[Unseen work]

Do they not all want to keep Gray and you’re ’simpleton’ if you think Gray is the problem?

I like a lot of the Hibs podcasts and Twitter pages.

However some of them seem to have the belief that their opinion is more valid because they’re on a platform and if you don’t agree you’re wrong.

Stuff like simpleton if you think Gray is the problem etc like you say

This isn’t a dig at DTS btw as alot of their stuff is good

[Keith_M]

Tam McManus already had a really good rant in the DR in May about Ben Kensell, and how he should follow Monty out the door.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ben-kensell-one-more-hibs-32704570

Sadly hasn't happened.

[NC1875]

Tam McManus already had a really good rant in the DR in May about Ben Kensell, and how he should follow Monty out the door.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ben-kensell-one-more-hibs-32704570

Sadly hasn't happened.

If only. Teflon Ben is going nowhere unless he gets a better wage from someone else.

Which will be difficult given the eye watering sum he gets to oversee this **** show.

And we had people on here defending him the other day 😂😂😂

[ChuckNor]

I will never understand the people on this website who still defend Ben Kensell. He has been an unmitigated disaster.

I’m sure they’ll be along any moment now to tell us all how wonderful the hospitality is…

[Malonga's Cat]

Aye it's time now eh.

Have all the hospitality and commercial drive you want but it means nothing now. We are in a right mess. Those in charge need to take accountability from the top down. For me, I don't mind who owns Hibs as long as they have someone who is running it properly and Kensell is clearly not. CEO, DoF, Manager (Sadly, Gray shouldn't have been put in this position) and Captain - we need change.

[Hibees1973]

Was a review really carried out ? I have my doubts.

They probably did, but put perameters in place for the Golden Quadrant to remain in their positions. What was the point in the review then.

I think if Ron was still around he would have got out by now, out of shame. He delegated key responsibilities to his son and Kensell which has been hugely damaging. Then Ian Gordon & Kensell got into bed with the Black Knights who seem to deem them as a couple of clowns.

Our team has been on the decline ever since Ian Gordon and Kensell darkened our doors and both had a football club to play with, with Ron's money.

[Cooshed Kid]

According to the EEN we have the second worst pies in the Premiership. That's it for me. Gordons, Kensall, Mackay and Gray out. Jamie Oliver in.

[Corstorphine Hibby]

Has Ian Gordon chucked it? Not been at a game for ages. Almost like he knew what was coming and he’s left Ben and Malky to face the abuse of which there was apparently plenty yesterday afternoon.

He was there yesterday.

[Pagan Hibernia]

The decline since the autumn of 2021 has been stark. I'd hate to see our league record in the last three years.

[Greenworld]

12.30 on Sunday and nothing from the club.
There can be nothing to discuss . Gray and his backroom staff must all leave the club now .
The rest of them Gordon marshall , Malky Mckay , Ben Kensell can be fired next week .
Get on with it Hibs

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[S4uzee]

12.30 on Sunday and nothing from the club.
There can be nothing to discuss . Gray and his backroom staff must all leave the club now .
The rest of them Gordon marshall , Malky Mckay , Ben Kensell can be fired next week .
Get on with it Hibs

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So who does that leave in charge?

[BoomtownHibees]

So who does that leave in charge?

Joe Newell

[Greenworld]

So who does that leave in charge?Oh right enough David gray and Eddie may were our go to interim managers.


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[leith lynx]

So who does that leave in charge?

Sunshine and Percy.

[Paulie Walnuts]

They probably did, but put perameters in place for the Golden Quadrant to remain in their positions. What was the point in the review then.

I think if Ron was still around he would have got out by now, out of shame. He delegated key responsibilities to his son and Kensell which has been hugely damaging. Then Ian Gordon & Kensell got into bed with the Black Knights who seem to deem them as a couple of clowns.

Our team has been on the decline ever since Ian Gordon and Kensell darkened our doors and both had a football club to play with, with Ron's money.

The decline began when Ron Gordon came in the door. He started it.

Yes we finished third, but that was with a structure he inherited. Once he started ripping things up and putting his stamp on things, it was all downhill. Since Ian has taken over, he’s accelerated things ten fold.

[.Sean.]

Can't stand the guy. Should be the first out the door alongside our stupendously paid CEO. Neither has shown any of the qualities required to run a successful football team. The rest of the board should be evaluated with Black Knights given the reign for the rest of the season with the Gordon's stepping back.
Neither can I. Arrogant beyond belief as he proved with his slavering about how good we’re being run


Let’s no forget he’s got previous for treating club legends like dirt so it’ll be no real surprise if and when he chucks SDG under the bus to give himself a bit of breathing space.

[Bridge hibs]

Oh right enough David gray and Eddie may were our go to interim managers.


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Gray was decent as interim manager, we should sack him then bring him back as interim manager and if he does a decent job he may be in with a chance of making it permanent

[superfurryhibby]

The appointment and prospect of failure for Gray was always going to be the final straw for fans. I thought at the time that there was no coming back for Gordon and Kensell if Gray wasn't adequately backed.

It was never a move made to appease fans or one that gave them more wriggle room, that was seemed clear to me.

For all the supposed transfer bids for McCowan, I can't help fearing that we are skint and that the money has been spent.

We signed players and paid a decent fee for Bowie (was this fee not more than balanced out by the incoming fee for Melkersen?). We also sold quite a few players on or offloaded them via loans or being out of contact.

Everything incoming thereafter looks like bargain basement. If there was decent cash available, why didn't we sign better, like a Jason Kerr for defence or an alternative to McCowan in midfield?

How much did Mackay really have in terms of influencing what was incoming, or the new contract for Newell (WTAF)?

The Gordon's will be despised by fans, even in the cozy confines of hospitality. Gray being sacked will just be the icing on that cake.

[Leith_Hibee]

I’ve been refreshing twitter all morning waiting on an announcement. I think we need a clean sweep of the coaching department. I was tiring in despair yesterday watching Salmond trying to coach Gayle on how to play football.

[Unseen work]

The appointment and prospect of failure for Gray was always going to be the final straw for fans. I thought at the time that there was no coming back for Gordon and Kensell if Gray wasn't adequately backed.

It was never a move made to appease fans or one that gave them more wriggle room, that was seemed clear to me.

For all the supposed transfer bids for McCowan, I can't help fearing that we are skint and that the money has been spent.

We signed players and paid a decent fee for Bowie (was this fee not more than balanced out by the incoming fee for Melkersen?). We also sold quite a few players on or offloaded them via loans or being out of contact.

Everything incoming thereafter looks like bargain basement. If there was decent cash available, why didn't we sign better, like a Jason Kerr for defence or an alternative to McCowan in midfield?

How much did Mackay really have in terms of influencing what was incoming, or the new contract for Newell (WTAF)?

The Gordon's will be despised by fans, even in the cozy confines of hospitality. Gray being sacked will just be the icing on that cake.

Is Jason Kerr not on something like 15k a week at Wigan? Sure that was the rumours in the summer

[superfurryhibby]

Is Jason Kerr not on something like 15k a week at Wigan? Sure that was the rumours in the summer

I very much doubt it.

[InvertedFullBak]

Tam McManus already had a really good rant in the DR in May about Ben Kensell, and how he should follow Monty out the door.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ben-kensell-one-more-hibs-32704570

Sadly hasn't happened.


Hence why Tam now has a persona non grata from kensell. .

[.Sean.]

Hence why Tam now has a persona non grata from kensell. .
Yeah, Bens not very good at anyone painting him in a negative light online, phoning up supporters in the summer who had posted they ‘rumours’ about him on x 😂😂😂😂

[Greenworld]

Gray was decent as interim manager, we should sack him then bring him back as interim manager and if he does a decent job he may be in with a chance of making it permanentThinking like that will get you a job at Easter road

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[InvertedFullBak]

Yeah, Bens not very good at anyone painting him in a negative light online, phoning up supporters in the summer who had posted they ‘rumours’ about him on x 😂😂😂😂

Are you joking regarding that last part ?

[.Sean.]

Are you joking regarding that last part ?
No

[InvertedFullBak]

No

That's fantastic. Talk about worrying about your ego being dented.

[blackpoolhibs]

Yeah, Bens not very good at anyone painting him in a negative light online, phoning up supporters in the summer who had posted they ‘rumours’ about him on x 😂😂😂😂

Can someone give him my number please.

[Bostonhibby]

According to the EEN we have the second worst pies in the Premiership. That's it for me. Gordons, Kensall, Mackay and Gray out. Jamie Oliver in.Can we not just track down the guy who makes the worst pies and make him Director of Filled Pastry Products (pies)?

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[blackpoolhibs]

Can we not just track down the guy who makes the worst pies and make him Director of Filled Pastry Products (pies)?

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It's probably Ian Gordon.

[.Sean.]

Can someone give him my number please.
Mention his private life on Twitter and you’ll end up with a phone call from him, foolproof plan 👍🏼

[LewysGot2]

Yeah, Bens not very good at anyone painting him in a negative light online, phoning up supporters in the summer who had posted they ‘rumours’ about him on x 😂😂😂😂

True story

Pal of mine was called after BKs salary was discussed in a post online debating his relative merits.

The Hibs media team keep the club informed of what folk are saying on various platforms.

[Bridge hibs]

True story

Pal of mine was called after BKs salary was discussed in a post online debating his relative merits.

The Hibs media team keep the club informed of what folk are saying on various platforms.Yeah I made the mistake of saying something about his tan and received a phone call from him, followed by 30 boxes of Hottie Tottie tanning lotion and a lifetime membership to the exclusive Sandy Buns Tanning Salon 🤢

[Bostonhibby]

It's probably Ian Gordon.[emoji23]

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[.Sean.]

True story

Pal of mine was called after BKs salary was discussed in a post online debating his relative merits.

The Hibs media team keep the club informed of what folk are saying on various platforms.
Bizarre

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yeah, Bens not very good at anyone painting him in a negative light online, phoning up supporters in the summer who had posted they ‘rumours’ about him on x 😂😂😂😂

That’s outstanding.

[Coco Bryce]

I'd ****ing love him to phone me!

[Slim Shady]

Is Jason Kerr not on something like 15k a week at Wigan? Sure that was the rumours in the summer

Kerr was keen to sign for Hibs in the summer. In the wage offered by Hibs, Kerr asked for an additional £500 per week. Club refused so he didn’t sign.

[.Sean.]

I'd ****ing love him to phone me!
You might get a call in the summer when they’ve got the begging bowl out for season ticket renewals when the thousands upon thousands of supporters who are currently renewing purely in blind faith have inevitably had enough after another let down of a season and the quantity of renewals drop through the floor finally.

[The Tubs]

Kerr was keen to sign for Hibs in the summer. In the wage offered by Hibs, Kerr asked for an additional £500 per week. Club refused so he didn’t sign.

Even if he is on 15k, with the cash we've thrown around, he was definitely the signing we needed. A Hibee cup-winning captain who's a solid centre half. I'd have taken a downgrade on all the other signings, even the keeper :tee hee:, to get him in.

[J-C]

So who does that leave in charge?

Big Daz and Boozy

[Unseen work]

Kerr was keen to sign for Hibs in the summer. In the wage offered by Hibs, Kerr asked for an additional £500 per week. Club refused so he didn’t sign.

👍🏻 cheers

Hard to comment on as we don’t know what he was offered etc and if it was right at the limit of what we already offer

[Hibiza]

Why do we tolerate all this ?

[DarlingtonHibee]

Why do we tolerate all this ?

It's called being a Hibs supporter 😊

[zlatan]

Why do we tolerate all this ?

So our children can be next

[Baldy Foghorn]

So our children can be next

😁

[sean04]

Can't believe that the club hasn't reacted yet. Expected big news from the club today

[04Sauzee]

Why do we tolerate all this ?

A wee bit manic

[Keith_M]

A wee bit manic


Don't you preach to me!

[CentreLine]

Can't believe that the club hasn't reacted yet. Expected big news from the club today

International break probably allows the club to take a bit more time over this, especially if there was to be a number of places to fill.

[Hibs90]

Yeah, Bens not very good at anyone painting him in a negative light online, phoning up supporters in the summer who had posted they ‘rumours’ about him on x 😂😂😂😂

That is absolutely incredible.


Yeah I made the mistake of saying something about his tan and received a phone call from him, followed by 30 boxes of Hottie Tottie tanning lotion and a lifetime membership to the exclusive Sandy Buns Tanning Salon 🤢

:greengrin

[Mantis Toboggan]

So our children can be next

Was that not Graham Rix?

Anyway, how's Gray not been sacked yet

[Ozyhibby]

International break probably allows the club to take a bit more time over this, especially if there was to be a number of places to fill.

I doubt we have that much time. This is at the stage where emergency action is needed.


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[The Modfather]

Don't you preach to me!

Can’t believe the thread has gone down the Manics puns route and not a single poster has worked in the tailor made pun, “Everything Must Go”. Shame on you all.

[Greenworld]

New head of recruitment coming in . No idea what that means for MM

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[Heisenberg]

New head of recruitment coming in . No idea what that means for MM

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Hopefully it means the end of Ian Gordon getting involved.

[Paulie Walnuts]

New head of recruitment coming in . No idea what that means for MM

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Hopefully means the end of Mackay.

[Hibiza]

I'll settle for this pun rather than the last DROSS / GOSS one

[SHODAN]

New head of recruitment coming in .

https://i2-prod.footballscotland.co.uk/incoming/article29452744.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/0_Ian-Gordon-Hibs.jpg

[Bridge hibs]

Hopefully means the end of Mackay.

Or Mackay as manager 😧

[B.H.F.C]

New head of recruitment coming in . No idea what that means for MM

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Would expect it to be someone that would work under McKay (or someone else if he is replaced). Folk tend to think a Sporting Director does all that side of stuff whereas you’d really expect the Heads of the various departments (including the Head Coach) to report to them.

We need to get back to the days of not having a clue who these folk behind the scenes are. That would probably be an indication of improvement!

[Unseen work]

New head of recruitment coming in . No idea what that means for MM

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SDG gone?

[Greenworld]

SDG gone?No idea on that

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[Bostonhibby]

So our children can be nextChildren?! Never mind bloody children, my dear old faithful dog never recovered from losing that final to Ross County. Took it to his grave...........

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[NorthNorfolkHFC]

Not going to win us games though.


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[GreenCastle]

New head of recruitment coming in . No idea what that means for MM

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Rearranging the deck chairs springs to mind.

[04Sauzee]

New head of recruitment coming in . No idea what that means for MM

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From already within the BK group?
What does this mean for the management team do you think?

[NC1875]

New head of recruitment coming in . No idea what that means for MM

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Iano Gordano,

looks like Ian Gordon but with Ben Kensells tan

[HoboHarry]

New head of recruitment coming in . No idea what that means for MM

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Information based on what?

[flash]

Rearranging the deck chairs springs to mind.

It absolutely doesn't mean that.

It's our recruitment that has been the main reason we are in the mess that we are in.

Clearly it won't change anything immediately but it's something that we need to fix if we are ever going to move forward.

[Ozyhibby]

New head of recruitment coming in . No idea what that means for MM

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Good. We need more middle management.


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[bingo70]

It absolutely doesn't mean that.

It's our recruitment that has been the main reason we are in the mess that we are in.

Clearly it won't change anything immediately but it's something that we need to fix if we are ever going to move forward.

Whoever it is has 6 months to fix it so hopefully we have a good January or we’ll be after someone to replace them in shortly after.*




*I don’t actually believe that, appears to be the timescales Mackay has been granted by some though so be interesting to hear if the new guy gets anymore leeway.

[flash]

Whoever it is has 6 months to fix it so hopefully we have a good January or we’ll be after someone to replace them in shortly after.*




*I don’t actually believe that, appears to be the timescales Mackay has been granted by some though so be interesting to hear if the new guy gets anymore leeway.

It always gets a bit mad when things are going badly.

In the last few days I have heard Hibs supporters say, amongst other things, it would be good if we got relegated and it's a bad thing that our hospitality areas are doing so well.

We badly need a wee upturn in fortunes.

[bingo70]

It always gets a bit mad when things are going badly.

In the last few days I have heard Hibs supporters say, amongst other things, it would be good if we got relegated and it's a bad thing that our hospitality areas are doing so well.

We badly need a wee upturn in fortunes.

A right good corporate partnership should fix things.

[flash]

A right good corporate partnership should fix things.

We talking SportemonGo level stuff?

[Paulie Walnuts]

It always gets a bit mad when things are going badly.

In the last few days I have heard Hibs supporters say, amongst other things, it would be good if we got relegated and it's a bad thing that our hospitality areas are doing so well.

We badly need a wee upturn in fortunes.

Over the piece, I think Stuart93 (I think that’s who it was anyway?) was off the mark with the hospitality shout. I can see where they’re coming from though.

The Gordon’s and Kensell are so ****ing tone deaf that it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they manage to wrap themselves in their little hospitality bubble and convince themselves it’s not all that bad because their baby is doing well, so I do see where Stuart is coming from.

I wouldn’t blame the fans for it, but I don’t think the idea that Kensell, Ian Gordon etc could be blinded to our failures due to one of their projects doing well is all that far fetched. They’ve shown themselves to be pretty moronic.

[DarlingtonHibee]

New head of recruitment coming in . No idea what that means for MM

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Ha ha ha 😂

[Unseen work]

A new head of recruitment in November.

No time to prepare for the January window.

Excellent

Just what is needed

[Paulie Walnuts]

New head of recruitment coming in . No idea what that means for MM

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Was suggested elsewhere that Calvin Charlton was gone. Would have to assume this is his replacement, he was the Head of Technical Recruitment.

[bingo70]

A new head of recruitment in November.

No time to prepare for the January window.

Excellent

Just what is needed

Surely they’ve got 2 months to prepare for it?

[Pedantic_Hibee]

https://i2-prod.footballscotland.co.uk/incoming/article29452744.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/0_Ian-Gordon-Hibs.jpg

This has ended me 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[flash]

Over the piece, I think Stuart93 (I think that’s who it was anyway?) was off the mark with the hospitality shout. I can see where they’re coming from though.

The Gordon’s and Kensell are so ****ing tone deaf that it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they manage to wrap themselves in their little hospitality bubble and convince themselves it’s not all that bad because their baby is doing well, so I do see where Stuart is coming from.

I wouldn’t blame the fans for it, but I don’t think the idea that Kensell, Ian Gordon etc could be blinded to our failures due to one of their projects doing well is all that far fetched. They’ve shown themselves to be pretty moronic.

To be fair to Stuart I was talking about a club post on twitter about hospitality which was met with a barrage of moronic replies.

Having money come into the club has to be a good thing. We just need to start spending it far more wisely.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Surely they’ve got 2 months to prepare for it?

Mackay was apparently hanging around the place for a considerable amount of time before the summer window (which is 3 months long rather than 1) and we are being told he couldn’t get anything organised in that time and had to use McDermotts work to sign players.

Don’t think it’s that unreasonable to suggest the same excuses will be trotted out for whoever this new head of recruitment is.

[SteveHFC]

New head of recruitment coming in . No idea what that means for MM

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Ian Gordon disguised as Guy Incognito

[Stuart93]

Over the piece, I think Stuart93 (I think that’s who it was anyway?) was off the mark with the hospitality shout. I can see where they’re coming from though.

The Gordon’s and Kensell are so ****ing tone deaf that it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they manage to wrap themselves in their little hospitality bubble and convince themselves it’s not all that bad because their baby is doing well, so I do see where Stuart is coming from.

I wouldn’t blame the fans for it, but I don’t think the idea that Kensell, Ian Gordon etc could be blinded to our failures due to one of their projects doing well is all that far fetched. They’ve shown themselves to be pretty moronic.

You’ve basically explained what I meant better than I ever could.

I certainly wasn’t blaming fans but the whole hospitality thing seems to have inflated their ego massively. They named themselves the Golden Quadrant ffs.

[Fergos]

Iano Gordano,

looks like Ian Gordon but with Ben Kensells tan

:not worth ….and a false tache with comedy nose….

[InvertedFullBak]

Mackay was apparently hanging around the place for a considerable amount of time before the summer window (which is 3 months long rather than 1) and we are being told he couldn’t get anything organised in that time and had to use McDermotts work to sign players.

Don’t think it’s that unreasonable to suggest the same excuses will be trotted out for whoever this new head of recruitment is.

He was spotted in the west upper when St Mirren beat us 3-0 in February. .

[Northernhibee]

:not worth ….and a false tache with comedy nose….

Aw naw, not Petrie again

[ChuckNor]

New head of recruitment coming in . No idea what that means for MM

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Yep. No impact on MM.

[Col2]

Every significant appointment must now be made by the BK or in total consultancy with them. Nobody at the club has any credit left in the bank to make new appointments. Fans won’t buy it anymore.

[Chorley Hibee]

That is absolutely incredible.



:greengrin

I've called him out on bull**** on his LinkedIn page on numerous occasions.

Frequently deletes all the comments and weeks/months later keeps showing up as having viewed my profile.

Wonderful to think that our CEO, on 350k a year, spends his time concentrating on his own ego.

[Callum_62]

They named themselves the Golden Quadrant ffs.

Did they?

I thought it was the agency or whatever they were speaking at labelled them as that

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[truehibernian]

This has ended me 😂😂😂😂😂😂

This just infuriates me PH - him and his family have ruined the football club. A complete chancer and handed roles in a brilliant football club by his father through egotism and nepotism. Sooner the Gordon’s are gone the better - total utter failures.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

This just infuriates me PH - him and his family have ruined the football club. A complete chancer and handed roles in a brilliant football club by his father through egotism and nepotism. Sooner the Gordon’s are gone the better - total utter failures.

I said it on a different post elsewhere…what angers me most is Ian being parachuted into one of the most senior roles in the club by his father (more so that they tried to do it on the sly). The Gordons have been an absolute disaster.

[Greenworld]

Yep. No impact on MM.Interesting two doing the same job

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[Centre Hawf]

A new head of recruitment in November.

No time to prepare for the January window.

Excellent

Just what is needed

To be fair you could say that about any time they make that change. It’s just important they do it (amongst others)

[Billy Whizz]

Was suggested elsewhere that Calvin Charlton was gone. Would have to assume this is his replacement, he was the Head of Technical Recruitment.

They need to blame it on someone, but not themselves

[Yorkshire HFC]

I said it on a different post elsewhere…what angers me most is Ian being parachuted into one of the most senior roles in the club by his father (more so that they tried to do it on the sly). The Gordons have been an absolute disaster.

He doesn't keep missing penalties, lose his man, give the ball away though, fail to save any shots etc. etc. I'd say that 90% of the reason we're bottom of the league is down to the players - they are under performing a lot more than the board. And I'm sure the board are as hacked off with the players and manager as the fans.

But it's football, and the way it's set up is that the only people unaffected by the under performance of the players, is the players!

[AugustaHibs]

He doesn't keep missing penalties, lose his man, give the ball away though, fail to save any shots etc. etc. I'd say that 90% of the reason we're bottom of the league is down to the players - they are under performing a lot more than the board. And I'm sure the board are as hacked off with the players and manager as the fans.

But it's football, and the way it's set up is that the only people unaffected by the under performance of the players, is the players!

And who identified these donkeys masquerading as footballers?

You guessed it.

[Jack]

He doesn't keep missing penalties, lose his man, give the ball away though, fail to save any shots etc. etc. I'd say that 90% of the reason we're bottom of the league is down to the players - they are under performing a lot more than the board. And I'm sure the board are as hacked off with the players and manager as the fans.

But it's football, and the way it's set up is that the only people unaffected by the under performance of the players, is the players!

I don't think the players are under performing.

They are just not good enough.

[ionahibby]

A new head of recruitment in November.

No time to prepare for the January window.

Excellent

Just what is needed

Sounds like gray is staying if this is true.

[Yorkshire HFC]

I don't think the players are under performing.

They are just not good enough.

A month ago I was reading on here that we would be fighting for 3rd / 4th place - they can't have got that much worse in such a short time.

There's a thread on here where fans are anticipating 9 or 12 points from the 5 games in November.

But I do wonder whether the goalie has made a save yet this season though - and I do wonder what role David Marshall has at the club.

[B.H.F.C]

I don't think the players are under performing.

They are just not good enough.

Disagree. The squad isn’t brilliant, but there are multiple players playing nowhere near their maximum. And Gray doesn’t appear to know how to get more from them given he, generally, just keeps doing the same things.

[SickBoy32]

Disagree. The squad isn’t brilliant, but there are multiple players playing nowhere near their maximum. And Gray doesn’t appear to know how to get more from them given he, generally, just keeps doing the same things.

Genuinely interested which players you reckon aren’t playing at their maximum? And is this directly the fault of the manager?

Exclude Youan as he has clearly just chucked it this season, the guy makes Kamberi look mature.

[B.H.F.C]

Genuinely interested which players you reckon aren’t playing at their maximum? And is this directly the fault of the manager?

Exclude Youan as he has clearly just chucked it this season, the guy makes Kamberi look mature.

Predominantly the attacking ones. Hoilett isn’t contributing any goals or assists, he’s better than that. Boyle has been off it for a number of weeks, whilst he’s not the player he was he’s better than what he’s shown recently and has already shown that earlier in the season. I think Myko is better than his recent performances but we have no plan to get the ball to any of our attacking players other than shell cross after hopeful cross in to the box. And you can’t just ignore the Youan situation either, that is a player we are getting nowhere near enough from (although there has obviously been something went on there).

I’d even look at Kwon and Triantis, they have regressed from their initial performances. There is no balance in a midfield three containing them and Newell but Gray will persist with them.

Players are also to blame but the manager has no game plan and has made too many poor decisions. I don’t think it’s a good squad, I don’t think there are 11 better than it in the league though.

[WestStandWillie]

Genuinely interested which players you reckon aren’t playing at their maximum? And is this directly the fault of the manager?

Exclude Youan as he has clearly just chucked it this season, the guy makes Kamberi look mature.

Obita for sure.

Has went from our POTY to someone that knows his position is safe and seems too relaxed. Stevenson bust a gut every week, I don't think we're seeing that from Jordan which is a shame.

[Ozyhibby]

Half ten and still not a peep from Easter road?[emoji2369]
These people are taking the piss.[emoji35]


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[CapitalGreen]

They need to blame it on someone, but not themselves

He is/was Head of Technical Scouting - responsible for video and statistical analysis of potential signings (eg players we haven’t actually scouted in person). We have clearly been absolutely awful at this for a number of years, the likes of Jair, Bojang, Bursik will all have gone through him.

[Tyler Durden]

He is/was Head of Technical Scouting - responsible for video and statistical analysis of potential signings (eg players we haven’t actually scouted in person). We have clearly been absolutely awful at this for a number of years, the likes of Jair, Bojang, Bursik will all have gone through him.

Yeah I find the reactions here a bit strange. We all accept the recruitment has been terrible - clearly it's a good thing that we're making changes there.

Also people thinking that MM is head of recruitment........ Surely this is not that difficult to follow guys.

[Tyler Durden]

A new head of recruitment in November.

No time to prepare for the January window.

Excellent

Just what is needed

Would it be better to keep the person in post, who has been doing a terrible job for several years?

[Scotty Leither]

He is/was Head of Technical Scouting - responsible for video and statistical analysis of potential signings (eg players we haven’t actually scouted in person). We have clearly been absolutely awful at this for a number of years, the likes of Jair, Bojang, Bursik will all have gone through him.

I wonder if he looked at videos of the goalies?

Or maybe the VHS format wasn’t available for the two we’ve signed, especially the back up as the last time he played a competitive game I think the Beatles were still together.

[Onion]

Half ten and still not a peep from Easter road?[emoji2369]
These people are taking the piss.[emoji35]


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Owner and Board walking around looking for a sacrificial lamb, to deflect from the main culprits.

[Billy Whizz]

He is/was Head of Technical Scouting - responsible for video and statistical analysis of potential signings (eg players we haven’t actually scouted in person). We have clearly been absolutely awful at this for a number of years, the likes of Jair, Bojang, Bursik will all have gone through him.

And having to deal with IG as well
I’m not saying he’s blameless, but what a set up to work in

[Fergos]

He doesn't keep missing penalties, lose his man, give the ball away though, fail to save any shots etc. etc. I'd say that 90% of the reason we're bottom of the league is down to the players - they are under performing a lot more than the board. And I'm sure the board are as hacked off with the players and manager as the fans.

But it's football, and the way it's set up is that the only people unaffected by the under performance of the players, is the players!

So hes doing a good job? He signed or sanctioned most of the underperforming players.

Unreal.

[Smartie]

Obita for sure.

Has went from our POTY to someone that knows his position is safe and seems too relaxed. Stevenson bust a gut every week, I don't think we're seeing that from Jordan which is a shame.

Obita is probably one of those least culpable for our current predicament.

Yes, the mistake at Killie was a howler but I think he's played every minute since then. Arguably only Hoilett and Ekpiteta have been better over that run of games.

Do we still need more from him though? Yes, probably.

[BoomtownHibees]

Obita is probably one of those least culpable for our current predicament.

Yes, the mistake at Killie was a howler but I think he's played every minute since then. Arguably only Hoilett and Ekpiteta have been better over that run of games.

Do we still need more from him though? Yes, probably.

He’s probably been one of our best players the last few weeks but he was also on the “dreadful” list on Saturday

[Lago]

Half ten and still not a peep from Easter road?[emoji2369]
These people are taking the piss.[emoji35]


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That's the way it will stay I think.

[Joe6-2]

Or Mackay as manager 😧

I’ve said it before, this is what I’m expecting

[alexedwards]

Yeah I find the reactions here a bit strange. We all accept the recruitment has been terrible - clearly it's a good thing that we're making changes there.

Also people thinking that MM is head of recruitment........ Surely this is not that difficult to follow guys.

It isn't;
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/malky-mackay-explains-hibs-transfer-33132121


https://www.footballcareers.com/news/malky-mackay-sporting-director-hibs/#:~:text=He%20will%20officially%20begin%20his,mana gement%20and%20the%20club's%20academy.

[GloryGlory]

Half ten and still not a peep from Easter road?[emoji2369]
These people are taking the piss.[emoji35]


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Hopefully it's due to the coaching team negotiating their pay offs. :greengrin

[Slim Shady]

I’ve said it before, this is what I’m expecting

This cannot happen.

This must not be allowed to happen!

[Northernhibee]

So hes doing a good job? He signed or sanctioned most of the underperforming players.

Unreal.

Recruitment requires several people involved and it’s been god awful at the club for some time IMO. Unfair to pin that entirely on Gray.

[MelbourneHibees]

Lots of chats I'm in saying that Gray is out and Mackay is in.

[Callum_62]

Lots of chats I'm in saying that Gray is out and Mackay is in.Looking forward to block 7 chanting Davie Grays name swiftly followed by Malky GTF.





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[Centre Hawf]

Lots of chats I'm in saying that Gray is out and Mackay is in.

At least everyone who was certain he was a great appointment back in June will be able to see a 'proper football person' in charge :aok:

[Springbank]

At least everyone who was certain he was a great appointment back in June will be able to see a 'proper football person' in charge :aok:

He needs 6 points from the next 2 games, or else it's curtains

Very few gettable points to play for in December, if you can't deal with St Mirren, Motherwell, Dundee

[Fergos]

Recruitment requires several people involved and it’s been god awful at the club for some time IMO. Unfair to pin that entirely on Gray.

Eh?

The og post referencing Ian Gordon. Not DG.

[Centre Hawf]

He needs 6 points from the next 2 games, or else it's curtains

Very few gettable points to play for in December, if you can't deal with St Mirren, Motherwell, Dundee

My post was about Malky Mackay getting the interim gig. I was told he was great and got the Scottish game so we should be fine!

[Unseen work]

My post was about Malky Mackay getting the interim gig. I was told he was great and got the Scottish game so we should be fine!

How much of our failings can be put on Malky this season though?

He’s getting a hell of a lot of stick for coming into a club that’s a mess and continued to be a mess.

I don’t believe he would have picked Gray as manager if it was fully his choice.

Our squad isn’t brilliant, but it’s a hell of a lot better than bottom of the league and 1 win in 12

[James70]

If we do get relegated our income stream will fall drastically both from attendances and commercial business. Are our glorious leaders not aware of this fact, are they not concerned that we may not be able to pay inflated salaries any longer? Especially BK.

[Unseen work]

If we do get relegated our income stream will fall drastically both from attendances and commercial business. Are our glorious leaders not aware of this fact, are they not concerned that we may not be able to pay inflated salaries any longer? Especially BK.

Hopefully BK are terrified and give us Kepa and Christie on loan for the remainder of the season 🤣

[McD]

I've called him out on bull**** on his LinkedIn page on numerous occasions.

Frequently deletes all the comments and weeks/months later keeps showing up as having viewed my profile.

Wonderful to think that our CEO, on 350k a year, spends his time concentrating on his own ego.



That’s utterly pathetic (not you mate)

[Is It On....]

I said it on a different post elsewhere…what angers me most is Ian being parachuted into one of the most senior roles in the club by his father (more so that they tried to do it on the sly). The Gordons have been an absolute disaster.

It was tin hat on at the time for anybody that dared say that when it happened and, as you say, it wasn't even officially announced.

[Is It On....]

Hopefully BK are terrified and give us Kepa and Christie on loan for the remainder of the season 🤣

We really need a goalkeeper that's actually played so fingers crossed 🤞

[Centre Hawf]

How much of our failings can be put on Malky this season though?

He’s getting a hell of a lot of stick for coming into a club that’s a mess and continued to be a mess.

I don’t believe he would have picked Gray as manager if it was fully his choice.

Our squad isn’t brilliant, but it’s a hell of a lot better than bottom of the league and 1 win in 12

This is probably the problem with the club at the moment. Just sheer silence when things are going ****. Who is to blame? They all hide behind each other and will continue to do so, Malky Mackay included. He was out there every signing telling us how wonderful they were and what a pleasure it was to get the deal for each and every one of them over the line, then at the end of the window how much work we done and how much there is still to do. Now he's dead silent when it's transpired that the squad he's built is rank rotten. He's as bad as the rest of them.

Our squad right now is showing that it is a bottom of the league team. For years we've replaced average players with poorer ones and we are where we are because of it. Whether that's because the owners laddie was allowed to play a premium edition Football Manager, or Brian McDermott was brought in to keep Lee Johnson happy so his dads pal let him away with murder, now we've got McPherson's pal in Malky Mackay in and our ex goalkeeper making the tea for him probably hoping to one day copy enough of his homework to do his job. How imaginative of us. At this point I almost feel sorry for Ian Gordon that he's potentially just being taken for a ride by anyone who senses an easy payday out of the club.

Get shot of the lot of them and clear the house because it's rotten, the sooner the better.

[alexedwards]

This is probably the problem with the club at the moment. Just sheer silence when things are going ****. Who is to blame? They all hide behind each other and will continue to do so, Malky Mackay included. He was out there every signing telling us how wonderful they were and what a pleasure it was to get the deal for each and every one of them over the line, then at the end of the window how much work we done and how much there is still to do. Now he's dead silent when it's transpired that the squad he's built is rank rotten. He's as bad as the rest of them.

Our squad right now is showing that it is a bottom of the league team. For years we've replaced average players with poorer ones and we are where we are because of it. Whether that's because the owners laddie was allowed to play a premium edition Football Manager, or Brian McDermott was brought in to keep Lee Johnson happy so his dads pal let him away with murder, now we've got McPherson's pal in Malky Mackay in and our ex goalkeeper making the tea for him probably hoping to one day copy enough of his homework to do his job. How imaginative of us. At this point I almost feel sorry for Ian Gordon that he's potentially just being taken for a ride by anyone who senses an easy payday out of the club.

Get shot of the lot of them and clear the house because it's rotten, the sooner the better.

Far too many pals covering each other's ass. It's a football club: a battalion of soldiers that need well drilled from top to bottom not a plaything for a bunch of mates who have suckered the naivety of IG. IG is the weak link, particularly as the owner - he's way out his depth & being exploited by those around him who are taking big bucks in return for nothing. A total rip-off for the fans.

[.Sean.]

I've called him out on bull**** on his LinkedIn page on numerous occasions.

Frequently deletes all the comments and weeks/months later keeps showing up as having viewed my profile.

Wonderful to think that our CEO, on 350k a year, spends his time concentrating on his own ego.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 sensational if it wasn’t so pathetic

Me and you can probably expect a phone call from him and our season tickets rescinded for our recent posts on this thread

[Chorley Hibee]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 sensational if it wasn’t so pathetic

Me and you can probably expect a phone call from him and our season tickets rescinded for our recent posts on this thread

He's blocked me now. 🚫🤣

[J-C]

Hopefully BK are terrified and give us Kepa and Christie on loan for the remainder of the season 🤣

Is this the Christie that's a regular Bournemouth 🤣🤣

[Jack]

A month ago I was reading on here that we would be fighting for 3rd / 4th place - they can't have got that much worse in such a short time.

There's a thread on here where fans are anticipating 9 or 12 points from the 5 games in November.

But I do wonder whether the goalie has made a save yet this season though - and I do wonder what role David Marshall has at the club.

Well you never heard it from me!

When we were enjoying early league Cup games I said this lot were going to get the fright of their lives when the season started.

I used to be a member of the happy clapper club. I think everyone who was a member has had that membership suspended!

[Unseen work]

Is this the Christie that's a regular Bournemouth 🤣🤣

The very one! 🤣

Being hugely sarcastic btw!

[we are hibs]

"Garvan Stewart, Bournemouth’s head of recruitment analysis, has been asked to fix the Edinburgh club’s scouting issues — and seems highly unlikely to be the only improvement recommended by Black Knight FC."

From the daily mail

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[Heisenberg]

"Garvan Stewart, Bournemouth’s head of recruitment analysis, has been asked to fix the Edinburgh club’s scouting issues — and seems highly unlikely to be the only improvement recommended by Black Knight FC."

From the daily mail

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Decent enough article highlighting the issues above the manager

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/scotland-football/article-14069783/David-Gray-shouldnt-head-Hibs-guillotine-golden-quadrant-fail-deliver.html

[Hibs90]

"Garvan Stewart, Bournemouth’s head of recruitment analysis, has been asked to fix the Edinburgh club’s scouting issues — and seems highly unlikely to be the only improvement recommended by Black Knight FC."

From the daily mail

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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/bournemouth/9294596/inside-ballmouth

[Hibees1973]

Decent enough article highlighting the issues above the manager

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/scotland-football/article-14069783/David-Gray-shouldnt-head-Hibs-guillotine-golden-quadrant-fail-deliver.html

An accurate assessment of the The Gordons and Kensell's time here.

Shameful.

[Real Emerald]

Decent enough article highlighting the issues above the manager

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/scotland-football/article-14069783/David-Gray-shouldnt-head-Hibs-guillotine-golden-quadrant-fail-deliver.html

After reading that it’s even more baffling that Gray remains in post, there simply has to be moves happening in the not too distant future. The mess simply can’t continue.

[Paul1642]

My take on things is that Gray is still as good as gone barring a miracle turnaround and the club realised that Malky stepping in wouldn’t go down well with the fans after his interviews in which he said he wasn’t here to be a manager, or just as likely Malky has told the club he doesn’t want to step in as the interim.

A look around the coaching staff brings up no visible interim manager, which is in part perhaps one of the main reasons for Gray failure, poor choice of assistants.

The least worst solution remaining is to begin the manager search with Gray in post….. for now.

[Lago]

Decent enough article highlighting the issues above the manager

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/scotland-football/article-14069783/David-Gray-shouldnt-head-Hibs-guillotine-golden-quadrant-fail-deliver.html
Good article, spot on analysis, thanks for that.

[Murphys Touch]

If a fraction of the rumours going about tonight then things are going to get worse before getting better. All stems from the fact we have the son of a successful businessman running our club.

There is no leadership at the top and ultimately he’s getting played.

- I had text from friend in media on Sunday saying he was briefed that Gray was being emptied on Monday. Followed closely by text from the son of a board member of the Hanlon/Lewis foundation
- at lunchtime today, media pal said now being briefed Gray was staying but no one willing to confirm or be quoted (if anyone watched In the Loop he said it was like the leadership battle episode)
- text tonight saying board members refused MM as interm so couldn’t sack Gray (angry sponsers too but I don’t believe that)
- BK influencing things and making people accountable but those same people are not listening as it’s not their direct reports
- Someone here saying Gray doesn’t listen to MM
- then that statement is brutal. Laughable and looks like it’s a ChatGPT effort

Any and/or all of this could be absolute nonsense. But it shows a complete lack of control across the club.l to own the narrative

[Unseen work]

If a fraction of the rumours going about tonight then things are going to get worse before getting better. All stems from the fact we have the son of a successful businessman running our club.

There is no leadership at the top and ultimately he’s getting played.

- I had text from friend in media on Sunday saying he was briefed that Gray was being emptied on Monday. Followed closely by text from the son of a board member of the Hanlon/Lewis foundation
- at lunchtime today, media pal said now being briefed Gray was staying but no one willing to confirm or be quoted (if anyone watched In the Loop he said it was like the leadership battle episode)
- text tonight saying board members refused MM as interm so couldn’t sack Gray (angry sponsers too but I don’t believe that)
- BK influencing things and making people accountable but those same people are not listening as it’s not their direct reports
- Someone here saying Gray doesn’t listen to MM
- then that statement is brutal. Laughable and looks like it’s a ChatGPT effort

Any and/or all of this could be absolute nonsense. But it shows a complete lack of control across the club.l to own the narrative

The concerning this is it probably is all true

[HFC93]

If a fraction of the rumours going about tonight then things are going to get worse before getting better. All stems from the fact we have the son of a successful businessman running our club.

There is no leadership at the top and ultimately he’s getting played.

- I had text from friend in media on Sunday saying he was briefed that Gray was being emptied on Monday. Followed closely by text from the son of a board member of the Hanlon/Lewis foundation
- at lunchtime today, media pal said now being briefed Gray was staying but no one willing to confirm or be quoted (if anyone watched In the Loop he said it was like the leadership battle episode)
- text tonight saying board members refused MM as interm so couldn’t sack Gray (angry sponsers too but I don’t believe that)
- BK influencing things and making people accountable but those same people are not listening as it’s not their direct reports
- Someone here saying Gray doesn’t listen to MM
- then that statement is brutal. Laughable and looks like it’s a ChatGPT effort

Any and/or all of this could be absolute nonsense. But it shows a complete lack of control across the club.l to own the narrative

I wouldn't be suprised by any of this.

[Jock O]

If a fraction of the rumours going about tonight then things are going to get worse before getting better. All stems from the fact we have the son of a successful businessman running our club.

There is no leadership at the top and ultimately he’s getting played.

- I had text from friend in media on Sunday saying he was briefed that Gray was being emptied on Monday. Followed closely by text from the son of a board member of the Hanlon/Lewis foundation
- at lunchtime today, media pal said now being briefed Gray was staying but no one willing to confirm or be quoted (if anyone watched In the Loop he said it was like the leadership battle episode)
- text tonight saying board members refused MM as interm so couldn’t sack Gray (angry sponsers too but I don’t believe that)
- BK influencing things and making people accountable but those same people are not listening as it’s not their direct reports
- Someone here saying Gray doesn’t listen to MM
- then that statement is brutal. Laughable and looks like it’s a ChatGPT effort

Any and/or all of this could be absolute nonsense. But it shows a complete lack of control across the club.l to own the narrative

If this much stuff is being leaked directly from board room, then maybe the football area isn't the only area in crisis. Particularly your insinuation about someone on HL foundation, I would hope whoever is chair in there is considering some governance action, as cannot imagine it will be that difficult for them to work out who it is leaking confidential information that they probably do not own. I would imagine Hibs board too will be considering their relationship with them given what is a pretty big breach of trust.

I would also imagine your mates will currently be deleting your number from their phone, or will be contacting Edinburgh Live direct next time.

[Murphys Touch]

If this much stuff is being leaked directly from board room, then maybe the football area isn't the only area in crisis. Particularly your insinuation about someone on HL foundation, I would hope whoever is chair in there is considering some governance action, as cannot imagine it will be that difficult for them to work out who it is leaking confidential information that they probably do not own. I would imagine Hibs board too will be considering their relationship with them given what is a pretty big breach of trust.

I would also imagine your mates will currently be deleting your number from their phone, or will be contacting Edinburgh Live direct next time.

👍

[One Day Soon]

If a fraction of the rumours going about tonight then things are going to get worse before getting better. All stems from the fact we have the son of a successful businessman running our club.

There is no leadership at the top and ultimately he’s getting played.

- I had text from friend in media on Sunday saying he was briefed that Gray was being emptied on Monday. Followed closely by text from the son of a board member of the Hanlon/Lewis foundation
- at lunchtime today, media pal said now being briefed Gray was staying but no one willing to confirm or be quoted (if anyone watched In the Loop he said it was like the leadership battle episode)
- text tonight saying board members refused MM as interm so couldn’t sack Gray (angry sponsers too but I don’t believe that)
- BK influencing things and making people accountable but those same people are not listening as it’s not their direct reports
- Someone here saying Gray doesn’t listen to MM
- then that statement is brutal. Laughable and looks like it’s a ChatGPT effort

Any and/or all of this could be absolute nonsense. But it shows a complete lack of control across the club.l to own the narrative

Frankly I think the reality of what has been and is going on is probably far, far worse than this suggests.

[Unseen work]

Mackay and Marshall’s presentation about recruitment to the black knights must have been brutal before they’re giving us someone from their recruitment 🤣

[Donegal Hibby]

Decent enough article highlighting the issues above the manager

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/scotland-football/article-14069783/David-Gray-shouldnt-head-Hibs-guillotine-golden-quadrant-fail-deliver.html

Another ….

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/scotland-football/article-14070157/Bournemouth-recruitment-chief-given-key-role-Hibs-rebuild-Gray-gets-vote-confidence.html

[Trinity Hibee]

Ian Gordon needs to remove himself from all operations now.

[bingo70]

Another ….

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/scotland-football/article-14070157/Bournemouth-recruitment-chief-given-key-role-Hibs-rebuild-Gray-gets-vote-confidence.html

That’s the sort of content they could have put in the statement to give it a bit more credibility last night.

Not just say they’re working closely with the Black Knights, actually tell us what they’re doing.

[flash]

Ian Gordon needs to remove himself from all operations now.

Jeez don't tell me he's added surgeon to his list of "specialities".

[Greenworld]

If this much stuff is being leaked directly from board room, then maybe the football area isn't the only area in crisis. Particularly your insinuation about someone on HL foundation, I would hope whoever is chair in there is considering some governance action, as cannot imagine it will be that difficult for them to work out who it is leaking confidential information that they probably do not own. I would imagine Hibs board too will be considering their relationship with them given what is a pretty big breach of trust.

I would also imagine your mates will currently be deleting your number from their phone, or will be contacting Edinburgh Live direct next time.Correct shocking how loose the lips are of some in that boardroom

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[Trinity Hibee]

Jeez don't tell me he's added surgeon to his list of "specialities".

😂

Reminds me of the Simpsons episode when Homer has a heart op

[DarlingtonHibee]

Jeez don't tell me he's added surgeon to his list of "specialities".

😂😂

[Winston Ingram]

In other news, Calvin Charlton has been emptied. I've no idea if he was any good or not, but it seems like a classic case of scapegoating.

[Trinity Hibee]

In other news, Calvin Charlton has been emptied. I've no idea if he was any good or not, but it seems like a classic case of scapegoating.

Where have you seen/heard this? Can’t say it’s a massive surprise someone from the recruitment team has gone. Whether it’s the right person or not will remain to be seen. Imagine this is bigger than just one person

[Fergos]

That’s the sort of content they could have put in the statement to give it a bit more credibility last night.

Not just say they’re working closely with the Black Knights, actually tell us what they’re doing.

Agreed.

[Trinity Hibee]

There was a really good chat after Chelsea Arsenal on Sunday with Graham Potter RE: recruitment at Brighton and Chelsea ( was on the back of Edu announcing he was leaving Arsenal as technical director) but was interesting to hear the inner workings of clubs and the role a manager and technical director have because at Hibs it’s never felt clear who is doing what

https://youtu.be/Z555aXJZ5kU?si=Aki20vGGD0MEk4rJ

Starts around 16 mins in

[Hibs Go Bragh]

Another ….

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/scotland-football/article-14070157/Bournemouth-recruitment-chief-given-key-role-Hibs-rebuild-Gray-gets-vote-confidence.html

Why wasn't this plan A this summer instead of waiting till we're in crisis and unable to do anything until the January window now?!

If this option was available to them and they've ignored or refused it then hell mend them!