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Green Blood
07-04-2022, 02:02 PM
Have they not still to open to general sale?

Think they open their general sale tomorrow. I believe they have sold 14k so far. They won’t sell out, expect both clubs to sell 17/18 k

JimBHibees
07-04-2022, 02:04 PM
Think they open their general sale tomorrow. I believe they have sold 14k so far. They won’t sell out, expect both clubs to sell 17/18 k

Think they will be abt 20k

Blurhibee
07-04-2022, 02:36 PM
From what ive been told they have sold 12,000

CapitalGreen
07-04-2022, 02:38 PM
From what ive been told they have sold 12,000

I know they started selling after us but are their tickets on general sale yet?

Edit - just seen someone above say general sale tomorrow.

Green Blood
07-04-2022, 02:38 PM
I think they sold 12k in the first phase and just over 2k yesterday and this am combined. They won’t get 20k, neither team will. Their sections in West A2 - A7 not looking healthy. They are sold out in the North and apart from the odd seat from B2 to B7 in west, after that its very sparse at their end

Libby Hibby
07-04-2022, 03:17 PM
What happens now to the ‘sporting advantage’ if they cretins don’t sell out their allocation either?

Some folk on here are mental and were getting in a right tizz over nothing😂😂

Libby Hibby
07-04-2022, 03:19 PM
I think they sold 12k in the first phase and just over 2k yesterday and this am combined. They won’t get 20k, neither team will. Their sections in West A2 - A7 not looking healthy. They are sold out in the North and apart from the odd seat from B2 to B7 in west, after that its very sparse at their end

Very very similar to us

Green Blood
07-04-2022, 03:26 PM
Very very similar to us

Won’t be much in it in terms of either support unless the derby is a high scoring win for either team.

Carheenlea
07-04-2022, 04:08 PM
Very very similar to us

As much as they can never accept it, Hearts and Hibs are similar sized clubs, with similar sized stadiums and similar sized fan base. They’ve a much smaller pitch but apart from that much of a muchness.

truehibernian
07-04-2022, 04:08 PM
The only thing that matters about respective numbers is 17,000 Hibs fans celebrating with the team in front of an empty Hearts end at full time 👍

Fully confident we’ll get the win 🏆

Blurhibee
07-04-2022, 04:28 PM
There is a a few seats available in section D4 in the Back row that has just showed up

Since452
07-04-2022, 04:41 PM
Tickets arrived safe and sound

JohnM1875
07-04-2022, 04:42 PM
Tickets arrived safe and sound

Same here. Was a day or two before the final last time, so chuffed they showed up much earlier this time.

660
07-04-2022, 04:48 PM
As much as they can never accept it, Hearts and Hibs are similar sized clubs, with similar sized stadiums and similar sized fan base. They’ve a much smaller pitch but apart from that much of a muchness.

This. It wasn’t until Romanov that they started this odd big club thing.

HendoDelivered
07-04-2022, 04:58 PM
Tickets arrived safe and sound

Same

Mrimbetween
07-04-2022, 05:17 PM
Said before Hearts will sell slightly more so what

Mcbizz1998
07-04-2022, 05:21 PM
Collected tickets today. Now waiting for an email from Hibs to find out when the bus is leaving. This will have a huge impact on what time my mates arrive at mine for first beer of the day.

Brooster
07-04-2022, 05:23 PM
Can we stop talking about these cranks? Some folk are bordering on being obsessive.

loanheadhibby
07-04-2022, 05:31 PM
As a support, there's really no excuse for not selling out these types of games. Scottish cup semi final against Hearts, why on earth wouldn't you want to go?
I suppose the last three games at Hampden v Hearts.
Not saying it's right.

erin go bragh
07-04-2022, 05:50 PM
Reading that it’s the first time in Scottish cup history that it’s been a Derby derby semi final ( Us and them and the two ugly sisters )
Tickets arrived today and bring it on .

Mick O'Rourke
07-04-2022, 06:17 PM
Reading that it’s the first time in Scottish cup history that it’s been a Derby derby semi final ( Us and them and the two ugly sisters )
Tickets arrived today and bring it on .

Considering one of the clubs was only founded 10 years ago,not that historic,really !!

Leith Green
07-04-2022, 07:12 PM
Are our tickets available for collection yet? Hoping to go down either tomorrow or early next week..

Leith Green
07-04-2022, 07:16 PM
I think they sold 12k in the first phase and just over 2k yesterday and this am combined. They won’t get 20k, neither team will. Their sections in West A2 - A7 not looking healthy. They are sold out in the North and apart from the odd seat from B2 to B7 in west, after that its very sparse at their end


Did they put south stand upper and lower tickets on sale?

Billy Whizz
07-04-2022, 07:21 PM
Are our tickets available for collection yet? Hoping to go down either tomorrow or early next week..

Available from today 10am to 4pm TO opening hours

Billy Whizz
07-04-2022, 07:23 PM
Did they put south stand upper and lower tickets on sale?

Upper haven’t gone on sale, I’d like to know where lower J1/I6 and mostly I5 went too

Leith Green
07-04-2022, 07:30 PM
Upper haven’t gone on sale, I’d like to know where lower J1/I6 and mostly I5 went too

Probably comps and player’s family etc , maybe hospitality packages mate

Leith Green
07-04-2022, 07:31 PM
Available from today 10am to 4pm TO opening hours

Thanks 👍

Iggy Pope
07-04-2022, 07:39 PM
Considering one of the clubs was only founded 10 years ago,not that historic,really !!

I know what you’re saying Mick but it is quite astonishing .
134 years? I mean, even the entire 40s 50s 60s and 70s with all those great sides amongst these 4 clubs never making the semis together? I know Hearts were ***** for a lot of those but even still :wink:

hibsbollah
07-04-2022, 08:11 PM
There is a a few seats available in section D4 in the Back row that has just showed up

Just picked up 2 of those, thanks :aok:

eastterrace
07-04-2022, 09:24 PM
This. It wasn’t until Romanov that they started this odd big club thing.it all really started in 2007 when we won the league cup and they had won the Scottish cup the year before. They came down to Easter road in the Stephen frail game and were singing wee team wee cup and big team big cup that’s my memory of it .

Hulk1875
07-04-2022, 09:45 PM
it all really started in 2007 when we won the league cup and they had won the Scottish cup the year before. They came down to Easter road in the Stephen frail game and were singing wee team wee cup and big team big cup that’s my memory of it .

They’ll never get over us winning the Scottish cup

mcohibs
07-04-2022, 09:50 PM
Reading that it’s the first time in Scottish cup history that it’s been a Derby derby semi final ( Us and them and the two ugly sisters )
Tickets arrived today and bring it on .

What's more than that it's actually the first time in 134 years that it's been those four teams in the semis.

Green Blood
08-04-2022, 08:05 AM
So currently we have sold quite a few more tickets than they have. I believe they have sold around 14,800 with their public sale starting today. Not looking likely they will sell out, be lucky if they have any more that 18k. Any updates on how our ticket sales are going? Last I heard was we had sold close to 17k

B.H.F.C
08-04-2022, 08:20 AM
So currently we have sold quite a few more tickets than they have. I believe they have sold around 14,800 with their public sale starting today. Not looking likely they will sell out, be lucky if they have any more that 18k. Any updates on how our ticket sales are going? Last I heard was we had sold close to 17k

Think they’ll overtake our sales today.

We’ll overtake them again once we’ve won at Tynecastle.

Green Blood
08-04-2022, 08:23 AM
Think they’ll overtake our sales today.

We’ll overtake them again once we’ve won at Tynecastle.

Agree, their public sale started this am. They won’t sell out though!

LaMotta
08-04-2022, 08:26 AM
Agree, their public sale started this am. They won’t sell out though!

Not so sure about that now - they've nearly sold out the entire West stand already this morning. As things stand they'll have several thousand more than us.

Ringothedog
08-04-2022, 08:28 AM
Agree, their public sale started this am. They won’t sell out though!

They have sold out the North, south lower, 90% of the west and 75% of the south upper. They are easily coming up for 20k. At the moment they have probably sold about 3k more than us

Blurhibee
08-04-2022, 08:44 AM
Looks like they are going to sell out there allocation no problem, they might even get the rest of the south upper that we’ve not sold yet

B.H.F.C
08-04-2022, 08:46 AM
Not so sure about that now - they've nearly sold out the entire West stand already this morning. As things stand they'll have several thousand more than us.

They’ve opened more of the south stand than us and more of behind the goals than us now.

We’ve hardly shifted anything this week. Going to be a good few thousand extra as it stands with a big gap behind the goals at our end.

Chorley Hibee
08-04-2022, 08:55 AM
Disappointing, but unfortunately some of our support are *****bags who look for any excuse not to go when the chips are down.

Ironic, considering it's likely the same people who throw that accusation at the team.

Another 2005/06 semi final turn-out it seems.

LaMotta
08-04-2022, 08:55 AM
Looks like they are going to sell out there allocation no problem, they might even get the rest of the south upper that we’ve not sold yet


They’ve opened more of the south stand than us and more of behind the goals than us now.

We’ve hardly shifted anything this week. Going to be a good few thousand extra as it stands with a big gap behind the goals at our end.

:agree:

A win for us tomorrow might improve things but not even to that extent.

It is what is - those of us going can't do anything about it other than get behind the team on the day and hope for the best.

Pretty Boy
08-04-2022, 08:56 AM
Based on our eticketing screen and the info I can grab from various Hearts sources we look like being pretty heavily outnumbered without a win tomorrow.

Team colours is sold out or nearly sold out, yellow is tickets available and red still to be opened. Hearts look like being close to a sell out by this afternoon.

Some Hibs fans need to take a look at themselves.

Stairway 2 7
08-04-2022, 08:57 AM
Big queue at the bus shelter half an hour ago unfortunately. We humped rangers in the semi with a massive crowd advantage. Its up to the players

Chorley Hibee
08-04-2022, 08:58 AM
So currently we have sold quite a few more tickets than they have. I believe they have sold around 14,800 with their public sale starting today. Not looking likely they will sell out, be lucky if they have any more that 18k. Any updates on how our ticket sales are going? Last I heard was we had sold close to 17k

Don't know where you got your info from. A quick look at the online map, on Hearts website, shows they've already sold considerably more than us and their public sale has only just started.

Nearly every section open to sales in the Hearts end, whilst we have around 7/8 sections not even open yet.

Pretty Boy
08-04-2022, 08:59 AM
Disappointing, but unfortunately some of our support are *****bags who look for any excuse not to go when the chips are down.

Ironic considering it's likely the same people who throw that accusation at the team.

Another 2005/06 semi final turn-out it seems.

I argued passionately for a 50/50 split for the LC final but this time around if our allocation is cut then I really don't care.

Why should someone who follows their team week in, week out be denied a ticket so someone who couldn't be arsed to back their team in a semi final derby can attend?

Leith Green
08-04-2022, 09:01 AM
Being a football supporter is something a which is defined by passion , loyalty , and sticking with your team through thick and thin. This semi final really highlights what level we have at our club for all of the above. Some utter ****bags in our support , we excuses left right and centre , but cannot hide the fact that you are letting your so called club and fellow supporters down massively.. Why dont you all just go and support one of the old firm if u only want to watch us when the odds are in our favour?

Hibernian Verse
08-04-2022, 09:02 AM
The matchday thread on here will be a hoot when we go 1-0 down and the usual suspects will be all over it from their keyboards.

Ringothedog
08-04-2022, 09:03 AM
We have about 650 up for sale just now, will be interesting to see how many are sold today

Broken Gnome
08-04-2022, 09:05 AM
I argued passionately for a 50/50 split for the LC final but this time around if our allocation is cut then I really don't care.

Why should someone who follows their team week in, week out be denied a ticket so someone who couldn't be arsed to back their team in a semi final derby can attend?

Historically maybe, but do we actually have the current support where demand for any game at Hampden will outweigh supply?

Pretty glaring that we're at a low ebb support - we can sell out Tynecastle, have the odd cheap spoke at home to At Johnstone or take 3.5k through for a cup quarter final, but in terms of bigger or consistent numbers it's just not there at the moment.

Going to take a lot to turn that round.

Pretty Boy
08-04-2022, 09:06 AM
The matchday thread on here will be a hoot when we go 1-0 down and the usual suspects will be all over it from their keyboards.

Oi.

I'll be all over it from my phone at Hampden thank you very much😁

Chorley Hibee
08-04-2022, 09:06 AM
We have about 650 up for sale just now, will be interesting to see how many are sold today

At this rate I don't think we'll be opening any further sections. We might even be forced to concede some tickets to Hearts in the South Stand.

B.H.F.C
08-04-2022, 09:08 AM
We have about 650 up for sale just now, will be interesting to see how many are sold today

Not many I’d imagine. We’ve been slowly selling the same section all week. Only a win tomorrow helps us shift a reasonable amount more. Lose, we’ll be lucky to shift that 650.

JohnM1875
08-04-2022, 09:10 AM
I can half get folk not wanting to go cause the football is bad and results haven't been great if we were playing anyone else. But this is an Edinburgh derby semi-final!

Really disappointing we look to be hugely outnumbered by them.

BoomtownHibees
08-04-2022, 09:12 AM
Imagine no being there when we beat them

Green-Hibee-7
08-04-2022, 09:15 AM
As someone sitting in the South Upper (mate sorted tickets) on reflection, I wish they had just kept that shut and had us fill or close to fill the East stand.

I’ve had my view on it. I do believe it will give them as a club a big boost to see a sold out end whilst there are glaringly empty sections in our end. I do accept it’s a game of football though and like the previous semi final, you never know.

Since452
08-04-2022, 09:15 AM
Who actually cares how many tickets Hearts sell? They were always going to sell more tickets than us. They're having their best season in years and are about to finish above us for the first time in a decade. It's not a surprise. We'll be louder than them if the team do the buisness.

B.H.F.C
08-04-2022, 09:19 AM
Who actually cares how many tickets Hearts sell? They were always going to sell more tickets than us. They're having their best season in years and are about to finish above us for the first time in a decade. It's not a surprise. We'll be louder than them if the team do the buisness.

Loads of folk care about it. It looks ****. Their players come out and see a full end. Ours come out and see loads of empty sections.

How the season has went should go out of the window for this. Too many folk feared of a defeat and will be quick enough to moan about the team not turning up when they couldn’t be bothered themselves.

chippy
08-04-2022, 09:20 AM
At this rate I don't think we'll be opening any further sections. We might even be forced to concede some tickets to Hearts in the South Stand.

Think they will open more sections. They are clearly holding back the south stand until the East is sold, but the only section you can get 2 seats or more together is G2 in the East. I think some folk are still waiting for more sections in the South to open. A win tomorrow and we’ll shift another couple of thousand perhaps more

Leith Green
08-04-2022, 09:20 AM
Equally frustrating ate the people who will be along any minute to tell us that its not important and that it has no baring on things. That is exactly the same weak mentality as the missing supporters.. If you dont think that this will give the hearts fans a massive lift and at the same time have an effect on our support then you really dont get it. Id also go as far as to say , any Hibs fan or who bothers arguing with Hearts supporters about our level of support etc in future just stop. Just another example in a long line of times out fragile support hasn’t bothered

GreenCastle
08-04-2022, 09:23 AM
Looking like less fans at the semi in Hibs end than 2006 semi.

Not really surprised considering the season we have had. Hearts smell blood - bit like the last few games at Hampden. If Hearts were struggling in the league I doubt they would sell as many.

If this was a John McGinn team we would have sold out I'm convinced but many fans simply just aren't very confident with this side due to many of the performances. The game tomorrow may help sell more but if the team don't put a performance in forget it.

Having attended the Boyle hat trick semi against the Huns - was one of the best games being a Hibs fan being under dogs. Maybe same will happen again but it's a massive summer for the club to get fans back and a team that many fans enjoy watching.

Ringothedog
08-04-2022, 09:27 AM
Think they will open more sections. They are clearly holding back the south stand until the East is sold, but the only section you can get 2 seats or more together is G2 in the East. I think some folk are still waiting for more sections in the South to open. A win tomorrow and we’ll shift another couple of thousand perhaps more

The people waiting on tickets becoming available in the South are going to have a long wait

LaMotta
08-04-2022, 09:32 AM
A lot of people having a go at our "*****bag fans" for not going.

Some of that may be true to an extent, but maybe we just don't have as large a fanbase?

BoomtownHibees
08-04-2022, 09:33 AM
Equally frustrating ate the people who will be along any minute to tell us that its not important and that it has no baring on things. That is exactly the same weak mentality as the missing supporters.. If you dont think that this will give the hearts fans a massive lift and at the same time have an effect on our support then you really dont get it. Id also go as far as to say , any Hibs fan or who bothers arguing with Hearts supporters about our level of support etc in future just stop. Just another example in a long line of times out fragile support hasn’t bothered

Already been one on this thread this morning. It does matter, regardless of those who say it doesn’t. There is going to be big gaps at one end of the stadium. We might even need to hand back tickets which for me would be the ultimate embarrassment

BoomtownHibees
08-04-2022, 09:34 AM
A lot of people having a go at our "*****bag fans" for not going.

Some of that may be true to an extent, but maybe we just don't have as large a fanbase?

We can get 16k at home for a regular derby. We can get 40k going to Hampden when folk think we have a much better chance of winning. Surely we can muster up enough to go to a semi final against our biggest rivals? If folk really wanted to go they would go, as simple as that

Danderhall Hibs
08-04-2022, 09:35 AM
Already been one on this thread this morning. It does matter, regardless of those who say it doesn’t. There is going to be big gaps at one end of the stadium. We might even need to hand back tickets which for me would be the ultimate embarrassment

They won't be handed back as the way they've split the stadium wouldn't allow it. We'll just have to put up with the "dressed as seats" stuff again. Unless we win of course.

B.H.F.C
08-04-2022, 09:35 AM
A lot of people having a go at our "*****bag fans" for not going.

Some of that may be true to an extent, but maybe we just don't have as large a fanbase?

We’ve taken over double the amount we look like taking to Hampden before.

I get this is a semi final but it’s not a normal semi final. It’s against them. The support is there, a lot of them just don’t want to go.

B.H.F.C
08-04-2022, 09:36 AM
They won't be handed back as the way they've split the stadium wouldn't allow it. We'll just have to put up with the "dressed as seats" stuff again. Unless we win of course.

They can be given extra in the south upper.

BoomtownHibees
08-04-2022, 09:36 AM
They won't be handed back as the way they've split the stadium wouldn't allow it. We'll just have to put up with the "dressed as seats" stuff again. Unless we win of course.

They could give Hearts the rest of the South Upper

Pretty Boy
08-04-2022, 09:36 AM
A lot of people having a go at our "*****bag fans" for not going.

Some of that may be true to an extent, but maybe we just don't have as large a fanbase?

It's large enough when it's a cup final or even a home derby we expect to win though.

As it stand we took more to the 2017 semi v Aberdeen than we are going to take to this one. I can't speak for everyone but with most of the people I know who aren't going, it's only because they very much are *****bags or the types who can't be arsed when the going gets tough.

Danderhall Hibs
08-04-2022, 09:36 AM
They can be given extra in the south upper.

Possibly but there would be some segregation required and then they'd be above us so might not be allowed.

BoomtownHibees
08-04-2022, 09:37 AM
Possibly but there would be some segregation required and then they'd be above us so might not be allowed.

It happened against the Huns. They could leave one section for segregation and Hearts would have the rest

Since452
08-04-2022, 09:39 AM
Looking like less fans at the semi in Hibs end than 2006 semi.

Not really surprised considering the season we have had. Hearts smell blood - bit like the last few games at Hampden. If Hearts were struggling in the league I doubt they would sell as many.

If this was a John McGinn team we would have sold out I'm convinced but many fans simply just aren't very confident with this side due to many of the performances. The game tomorrow may help sell more but if the team don't put a performance in forget it.

Having attended the Boyle hat trick semi against the Huns - was one of the best games being a Hibs fan being under dogs. Maybe same will happen again but it's a massive summer for the club to get fans back and a team that many fans enjoy watching.

That is a factor. I've shelled out 100 quid on tickets where im going along expecting not to win. Can't really afford it but i'd be gutted if we won and we missed it. Its utter madness really and i can fully understand people who aren't willing to do it. The Huns semi shows that you can quickly go from not expecting to win to having one of the best football days ever. Thats what's convinced me.

What i do think should happen is some sort of prioroty given to those that attend the semi for the final if we get there. It's only fair in my opinion.

Danderhall Hibs
08-04-2022, 09:40 AM
It happened against the Huns. They could leave one section for segregation and Hearts would have the rest

There's only 3 sections by the looks of things - it's a possibility if they can sell that many I suppose. They'd have been better splitting the North further down like for the Final wouldn't they?

Presumably we'll get less than half the tickets for the Final based on this showing as well.

BoomtownHibees
08-04-2022, 09:43 AM
There's only 3 sections by the looks of things - it's a possibility if they can sell that many I suppose. They'd have been better splitting the North further down like for the Final wouldn't they?

Presumably we'll get less than half the tickets for the Final based on this showing as well.

I think splitting the North would have given them even more as it can only be split right down at the corner

And aye, can’t really argue with a reduced allocation in the final now

oneone73
08-04-2022, 09:47 AM
If only there was some way of making sure everyone who goes to the semi gets a final ticket ahead of those who don't have the balls for this game.

GreenCastle
08-04-2022, 09:51 AM
It's large enough when it's a cup final or even a home derby we expect to win though.

As it stand we took more to the 2017 semi v Aberdeen than we are going to take to this one. I can't speak for everyone but with most of the people I know who aren't going, it's only because they very much are *****bags or the types who can't be arsed when the going gets tough.

While we can moan all day on here about folk not going and there are plenty who post on here who won't be attending the bottom line is selling our best player in January, rarely entertaining fans and most importantly the lack of winning games is making people not spend money attending. I'm not surprised and also not annoyed at fellow fans - more annoyed at the way the club messed about in summer and even winter transfer windows that has put us in this place - fans are voting with their feet and wouldn't be surprised if ST sales are also down next year unless serious changes are made.

BoomtownHibees
08-04-2022, 10:00 AM
While we can moan all day on here about folk not going and there are plenty who post on here who won't be attending the bottom line is selling our best player in January, rarely entertaining fans and most importantly the lack of winning games is making people not spend money attending. I'm not surprised and also not annoyed at fellow fans - more annoyed at the way the club messed about in summer and even winter transfer windows that has put us in this place - fans are voting with their feet and wouldn't be surprised if ST sales are also down next year unless serious changes are made.

A semi final against your biggest rivals (who aren’t that great either) should supersede any of that

SHODAN
08-04-2022, 10:02 AM
It's large enough when it's a cup final or even a home derby we expect to win though.

As it stand we took more to the 2017 semi v Aberdeen than we are going to take to this one. I can't speak for everyone but with most of the people I know who aren't going, it's only because they very much are *****bags or the types who can't be arsed when the going gets tough.

:agree:

And they're the same ones who chat **** about the club on social media at every opportunity.

LunasBoots
08-04-2022, 10:04 AM
A lot of people having a go at our "*****bag fans" for not going.

Some of that may be true to an extent, but maybe we just don't have as large a fanbase?

Our form and performances this season isn't/hasn't helped, I'll be there as usual, don't actually mind the smaller Hibs supports at Hampden if I'm honest, often find the atmosphere is far better than when we sell the whole lot, but it is pretty embarrassing people just can't get up for a Derby in a semi final

JimBHibees
08-04-2022, 10:04 AM
A semi final against your biggest rivals (who aren’t that great either) should supersede any of that

It's called supporting your team. Far too many scared to be bitch slapped by Hearts. Pathetic

Sean1875
08-04-2022, 10:05 AM
A semi final against your biggest rivals (who aren’t that great either) should supersede any of that

Exactly. These are the games that football supporters should be the most excited for - just canny get my head around why anyone would choose not to go if they're able to.

SHODAN
08-04-2022, 10:05 AM
It's called supporting your team. Far too many scared to be bitch slapped by Hearts. Pathetic

I expect us to lose but I'll still be going and supporting the team until the final whistle.

JimBHibees
08-04-2022, 10:07 AM
I expect us to lose but I'll still be going and supporting the team until the final whistle.

Agree totally actually stayed until the end at the final not to be spoken about. Bottom line is the supporters at the game need to really get behind the team on the day.

Sir David Gray
08-04-2022, 10:08 AM
I argued passionately for a 50/50 split for the LC final but this time around if our allocation is cut then I really don't care.

Why should someone who follows their team week in, week out be denied a ticket so someone who couldn't be arsed to back their team in a semi final derby can attend?

Yep me too, I even emailed Neil Doncaster to complain about it but if we win the semi and the turnout is as bad as it appears to be based on the graphic you've provided then I'll have no complaints when we're inevitably outnumbered by Rangers or Celtic fans for the final.

Chorley Hibee
08-04-2022, 10:10 AM
A lot of people having a go at our "*****bag fans" for not going.

Some of that may be true to an extent, but maybe we just don't have as large a fanbase?

There's plenty of evidence to suggest otherwise, we've taken some of the biggest crowds outside the Old Firm to Hampden on numerous occasions.

It seems a lot of them only show when we're favourites to win though.

It's ridiculous that we can't shift 20k tickets for a cup-semi final, 50 miles away, against our bitter rivals - regardless of our recent performances.

I've seen non-league sides in England take more to Wembley (often hundreds of miles away) than we're managing.

darwenhibby
08-04-2022, 10:11 AM
A lot of people having a go at our "*****bag fans" for not going.

Some of that may be true to an extent, but maybe we just don't have as large a fanbase?
We had an estimated 150k on the streets of Edinburgh when we paraded the cup in 2016
Surely we can muster 20 000 to hampden to support us against our biggest rivals despite the standard of football served up this season !!
Btw we are in the top 6 of the premier league as it stands
Not top 6 in the championship
C’mon fellow Hibees let’s get behind the team
GGTTH 🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬💚💚

Since90+2
08-04-2022, 10:13 AM
We had an estimated 150k on the streets of Edinburgh when we paraded the cup in 2016
Surely we can muster 20 000 to hampden to support us against our biggest rivals despite the standard of football served up this season !!
Btw we are in the top 6 of the premier league as it stands
Not top 6 in the championship
C’mon fellow Hibees let’s get behind the team
GGTTH 🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬💚💚

Genuine question, where was it estimated we had 150,000 out on the streets in 2016? That seems a very high number.

CJHibby
08-04-2022, 10:13 AM
I'll be there and so should the rest of you! Win or lose, your team needs you. It's the message it sends out to the team. Hearts are probably a bigger team support wise but we can easily match them for numbers in this game. Come on the Hibees

Blurhibee
08-04-2022, 10:13 AM
I wonder if Hibs announce now that if you get a semi final ticket it will guarantee you a ticket for the final if we get there 🤷*♂️. It might help with ticket sales

Pretty Boy
08-04-2022, 10:16 AM
Genuine question, where was it estimated we had 150,000 out on the streets in 2016? That seems a very high number.

That was the Police estimate that the press quoted.

Danderhall Hibs
08-04-2022, 10:17 AM
I wonder if Hibs announce now that if you get a semi final ticket it will guarantee you a ticket for the final if we get there 🤷*♂️. It might help with ticket sales

It would definitely start a social media outrage - there would be ST devalued and I'm not renewing shouts etc etc.

darwenhibby
08-04-2022, 10:17 AM
Genuine question, where was it estimated we had 150,000 out on the streets in 2016? That seems a very high number.

It’s the numbers that were spouted around at the time!
Bear in mind hearts claimed they had 200k in 1998

JimBHibees
08-04-2022, 10:18 AM
It’s the numbers that were spouted around at the time!
Bear in mind hearts claimed they had 200k in 1998

Always bigger :greengrin

Blurhibee
08-04-2022, 10:18 AM
It would definitely start a social media outrage - there would be ST devalued and I'm not renewing shouts etc etc.
I know mate, but season ticket holders would still get a ticket for the final too

bingo70
08-04-2022, 10:20 AM
I’m amazed that so many people care so much about how other people choose to spend their time. Everyone who wants to go will go, those who don’t, won’t. Everyone who really wants a ticket for a final should we get there will get one.

Everything is so bloody expensive just now so I don’t blame anybody in the slightest if they’d rather keep their money instead of spending a fortune on going to a game they think they won’t enjoy.

Difference between next weekends game and a final where we’d take much more is basically the day trippers who clearly don’t fancy a game like this, as is their choice.

Some of the best experiences I’ve had at Hampden is with a smaller hibs crowd there so I don’t really care there’ll be some empty sections, why would I as long as I enjoy my day, if I don’t enjoy my day, it won’t be because some seats are empty.

If we do get to the final I still think a 50/50 split is fair as it’s games like that you can bring new fans who will go on to support the club for the years ahead, as was the case with me when I went to the Skol cup final as one of my first matches.

Mrimbetween
08-04-2022, 10:30 AM
So currently we have sold quite a few more tickets than they have. I believe they have sold around 14,800 with their public sale starting today. Not looking likely they will sell out, be lucky if they have any more that 18k. Any updates on how our ticket sales are going? Last I heard was we had sold close to 17k

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Rubbish i think they will sell out and so be it

Sir David Gray
08-04-2022, 10:35 AM
I’m amazed that so many people care so much about how other people choose to spend their time. Everyone who wants to go will go, those who don’t, won’t. Everyone who really wants a ticket for a final should we get there will get one.

Everything is so bloody expensive just now so I don’t blame anybody in the slightest if they’d rather keep their money instead of spending a fortune on going to a game they think they won’t enjoy.

Difference between next weekends game and a final where we’d take much more is basically the day trippers who clearly don’t fancy a game like this, as is their choice.

Some of the best experiences I’ve had at Hampden is with a smaller hibs crowd there so I don’t really care there’ll be some empty sections, why would I as long as I enjoy my day, if I don’t enjoy my day, it won’t be because some seats are empty.

If we do get to the final I still think a 50/50 split is fair as it’s games like that you can bring new fans who will go on to support the club for the years ahead, as was the case with me when I went to the Skol cup final as one of my first matches.

Unfortunately the ship will have sailed as far as 50/50 splits at Hampden v Rangers or Celtic are concerned if we can't sell 50% of the stadium for a semi final against Hearts.

Rangers and Celtic will argue that more of their fans deserve to go because they follow their team all over the country compared with us who seem to have a lot of fans who have a problem attending Hampden unless it's for a game they think we will win.

I was furious with the SPFL for not giving us a 50/50 split in December for the League Cup final but if we make it to the Scottish Cup final this year, although I can see the arguments of having a 50/50 split, I don't think we can have too many complaints if we get a smaller allocation and I'm pretty sure that's what the SFA will choose to do if they see that we haven't come close to selling 50% of the stadium for a semi final against our biggest rivals.

Broken Gnome
08-04-2022, 10:36 AM
I’m amazed that so many people care so much about how other people choose to spend their time. Everyone who wants to go will go, those who don’t, won’t. Everyone who really wants a ticket for a final should we get there will get one.

Everything is so bloody expensive just now so I don’t blame anybody in the slightest if they’d rather keep their money instead of spending a fortune on going to a game they think they won’t enjoy.

Difference between next weekends game and a final where we’d take much more is basically the day trippers who clearly don’t fancy a game like this, as is their choice.

Some of the best experiences I’ve had at Hampden is with a smaller hibs crowd there so I don’t really care there’ll be some empty sections, why would I as long as I enjoy my day, if I don’t enjoy my day, it won’t be because some seats are empty.

If we do get to the final I still think a 50/50 split is fair as it’s games like that you can bring new fans who will go on to support the club for the years ahead, as was the case with me when I went to the Skol cup final as one of my first matches.

It's pretty natural that a neutral venue derby is seen as different, as you'd want to be nothing less than equal. I'm a sensitive soul as well so can't really be arsed with 'cannae sell all your tickets/what the ****ing hell is that' aimed at our end pre-match (again), and doubt I'm alone in thinking that's less than ideal.

So be it.

At it's most basic, look at everything said by our manager and players after Motherwell. They got a benefit from a full end, so if that's even remotely true, who's getting a bigger kick out of their support next Saturday?

bingo70
08-04-2022, 10:38 AM
Unfortunately the ship will have sailed as far as 50/50 splits at Hampden v Rangers or Celtic are concerned if we can't sell 50% of the stadium for a semi final against Hearts.

Rangers and Celtic will argue that more of their fans deserve to go because they follow their team all over the country compared with us who seem to have a lot of fans who have a problem attending Hampden unless it's for a game they think we will win.

I was furious with the SPFL for not giving us a 50/50 split in December for the League Cup final but if we make it to the Scottish Cup final this year, although I can see the arguments of having a 50/50 split, I don't think we can have too many complaints if we get a smaller allocation and I'm pretty sure that's what the SFA will choose to do if they see that we haven't come close to selling 50% of the stadium for a semi final against our biggest rivals.

Semi finals aren’t the same as finals though so just because we didn’t sell out next weekend doesn’t mean anything in my book.

Don’t really care what rangers and Celtic argue, final is at a neutral venue for a reason.

That’s a discussion for a different day though 😂

LaMotta
08-04-2022, 10:39 AM
We can get 16k at home for a regular derby. We can get 40k going to Hampden when folk think we have a much better chance of winning. Surely we can muster up enough to go to a semi final against our biggest rivals? If folk really wanted to go they would go, as simple as that


We’ve taken over double the amount we look like taking to Hampden before.

I get this is a semi final but it’s not a normal semi final. It’s against them. The support is there, a lot of them just don’t want to go.


It's large enough when it's a cup final or even a home derby we expect to win though.

As it stand we took more to the 2017 semi v Aberdeen than we are going to take to this one. I can't speak for everyone but with most of the people I know who aren't going, it's only because they very much are *****bags or the types who can't be arsed when the going gets tough.

Yes fair points, on reflection, the *****bags accusation is totally valid.

We actually took about 19k to Hampden v Aberdeen in 2017. This pic shows how full behind the goal was that day.25766

B.H.F.C
08-04-2022, 10:42 AM
Yes fair points, on reflection, the *****bags accusation is totally valid.

We actually took about 19k to Hampden v Aberdeen in 2017. This pic shows how full behind the goal was that day.25766

I never expected us to sell this game out but I thought we’d maybe get close to something resembling that. As it stands we have 6 sections left to open behind the goals (G8 is tiny though so in effect it’s really 5 sections)

LaMotta
08-04-2022, 10:45 AM
I never expected us to sell this game out but I thought we’d maybe get close to something resembling that. As it stands we have 6 sections left to open behind the goals (G8 is tiny though so in effect it’s really 5 sections)

As someone else said the South upper should not have been opened unless it was needed.

Some people might prefer those seats but it's far more important to have visible full sections.

The sooner Hampden gets redeveloped the better so that all seats are good ones.

Broken Gnome
08-04-2022, 10:46 AM
Yes fair points, on reflection, the *****bags accusation is totally valid.

We actually took about 19k to Hampden v Aberdeen in 2017. This pic shows how full behind the goal was that day.25766

Look! No one in the South Upper!!!

Wheat Hound
08-04-2022, 10:46 AM
I think the s****bags label is a fair one for those who can afford to go and are simply choosing not to.

This will be damaging on the day and beyond for our club.

I'm a season tic holder but would have zero issue with guaranteeing a final tic for anyone attending the semi.

LunasBoots
08-04-2022, 10:47 AM
Look! No one in the South Upper!!!

Should have just left it shut for this game

LaMotta
08-04-2022, 10:47 AM
Look! No one in the South Upper!!!

:agree:

The way it should have been next week, unless needed.

JimBHibees
08-04-2022, 10:48 AM
As someone else said the South upper should not have been opened unless it was needed.

Some people might prefer those seats but it's far more important to have visible full sections.

The sooner Hampden gets redeveloped the better so that all seats are good ones.

Tend to agree that didnt make much sense

Billy Whizz
08-04-2022, 10:50 AM
As someone else said the South upper should not have been opened unless it was needed.

Some people might prefer those seats but it's far more important to have visible full sections.

The sooner Hampden gets redeveloped the better so that all seats are good ones.

God forbid the fans get to be nearer the pitch and have a better view, than be 75 yards from the pitch!

green day
08-04-2022, 10:52 AM
Unfortunately the ship will have sailed as far as 50/50 splits at Hampden v Rangers or Celtic are concerned if we can't sell 50% of the stadium for a semi final against Hearts.

Rangers and Celtic will argue that more of their fans deserve to go because they follow their team all over the country compared with us who seem to have a lot of fans who have a problem attending Hampden unless it's for a game they think we will win.

I was furious with the SPFL for not giving us a 50/50 split in December for the League Cup final but if we make it to the Scottish Cup final this year, although I can see the arguments of having a 50/50 split, I don't think we can have too many complaints if we get a smaller allocation and I'm pretty sure that's what the SFA will choose to do if they see that we haven't come close to selling 50% of the stadium for a semi final against our biggest rivals.

Not quite.

Even smaller clubs are consulted re allocation, the premise is "start from 50/50" with the Scottish Cup Final and work it out from there.

Clubs in the final (Hibs or Hearts) will be asked how many they can sell, and the way the sales are made will allow for returns / reallocation to the other club.

The SFA is an entirely different organisation from the SPFL, there are thousands of tickets distributed to all SFA affiliate clubs for the South Stand (which actually limits the allocation to the 2 clubs in the final). These (in my exp) almost inevitably end up in the hands of Rangers/Celtic fans, and you also have the debenture tickets in the upper section of the BT stand.

Even if you start from the premise that it was a 50/50 split of publicly available tickets between the clubs, that doesnt mean that each club has 25000 fans there. More like a 20000/30000 split at best if one of those pair are in the final.

Mcbizz1998
08-04-2022, 10:54 AM
Anyone not going to this, despite having no other plans and the money to do so, aren’t Hibs supporters in my eyes.

In my group of 9 mates who follow hibs:

4 of us are going
1 is at a wedding
1 lives in Singapore
3 aren’t going for no reason other than they don’t want to.

The 3 are all guys that I wouldn’t call proper fans but will undoubtedly be there should we make it to the final.

McSwanky
08-04-2022, 10:58 AM
Also starting to regret buying tickets in the South Upper now. Here's hoping a we get a good display/result tomorrow to pique the interest of some of the more reluctant fans.

Frazerbob
08-04-2022, 10:59 AM
If you are not completely buzzing for a Scottish cup semi against Hearts, regardless of form, you are not a football fan. You’re a *****bag!

Mcbizz1998
08-04-2022, 11:00 AM
Unfortunately the ship will have sailed as far as 50/50 splits at Hampden v Rangers or Celtic are concerned if we can't sell 50% of the stadium for a semi final against Hearts.

Rangers and Celtic will argue that more of their fans deserve to go because they follow their team all over the country compared with us who seem to have a lot of fans who have a problem attending Hampden unless it's for a game they think we will win.

I was furious with the SPFL for not giving us a 50/50 split in December for the League Cup final but if we make it to the Scottish Cup final this year, although I can see the arguments of having a 50/50 split, I don't think we can have too many complaints if we get a smaller allocation and I'm pretty sure that's what the SFA will choose to do if they see that we haven't come close to selling 50% of the stadium for a semi final against our biggest rivals.

I don’t think that should be the case.

In a fair footballing country, both teams should always be offered 50/50. If one team can’t sell that the remaining tickets should be offered to the other team.

To start off with a smaller allocation is just not on.

chippy
08-04-2022, 11:03 AM
Remember the Cup Final when we contributed funds for a few hundred folk to get free tickets via Hibs community foundation. Is anyone else up for something similar here? Could maybe sell out a section of the East? I think Daniel organised this for the semi via HSL. Im pretty sure that there are quite a few fans unable to afford it.

CJHibby
08-04-2022, 11:07 AM
How many Hibs fans turn up at the Semi will be kargely ductated vy this weekend's result..Shaun and Ron take note..

Billy Whizz
08-04-2022, 11:09 AM
If you are not completely buzzing for a Scottish cup semi against Hearts, regardless of form, you are not a football fan. You’re a *****bag!

Couldn't have phrased better myself ha ha!

SteveHFC
08-04-2022, 11:09 AM
If we can’t sell out our allocation then we shouldn’t be complaining if the SFA gives us a small allocation again for the final if we get there.

bingo70
08-04-2022, 11:10 AM
If we can’t be sell out our allocation then we shouldn’t be complaining if the SFA gives us a small allocation again for the final if we get there.

I will.

Semi finals and finals aren’t the same thing.

Sir David Gray
08-04-2022, 11:14 AM
I don’t think that should be the case.

In a fair footballing country, both teams should always be offered 50/50. If one team can’t sell that the remaining tickets should be offered to the other team.

To start off with a smaller allocation is just not on.

I can understand that argument and up until today I'd have agreed.

I personally will just not have any complaints if we win the semi and end up with less tickets than Celtic or Rangers if sales for the semi seem to be as low as is being reported.

Alfred E Newman
08-04-2022, 11:20 AM
As someone sitting in the South Upper (mate sorted tickets) on reflection, I wish they had just kept that shut and had us fill or close to fill the East stand.

I’ve had my view on it. I do believe it will give them as a club a big boost to see a sold out end whilst there are glaringly empty sections in our end. I do accept it’s a game of football though and like the previous semi final, you never know.
It didn't give us a boost against Ross County, Livingston, Ayr, Dunfermline etc.

B.H.F.C
08-04-2022, 11:25 AM
It didn't give us a boost against Ross County, Livingston, Ayr, Dunfermline etc.

It’s not so much the boost (or lack of) we’ll get, it’s the boost that Hearts will get. I’d expect us to heavily outnumber any of those teams you mention, just as I expect the Celtic or Rangers to outnumber us given the opportunity.

Next week is a proper 50/50 game against our biggest rivals. They’ll be getting the magnitude of the game drummed in to them and backed by a full and expectant crowd. Our players will come out and instantly see that thousands of their own support couldn’t be bothered (unless we get a win tomorrow maybe).

Ronniekirk
08-04-2022, 11:28 AM
Not so sure about that now - they've nearly sold out the entire West stand already this morning. As things stand they'll have several thousand more than us.

All this talk by some players ofburying hibs in the two games and ending our season has whipped them up to a frenzy Talk of s statue being erected of Neilson if he manages to achieve that
If they are being primed to smell blood it may well spur them on to nearly a sell out Especially if they win tomorrow
It’s up to us to deflate their bubble And do our talking on the pitch


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easty
08-04-2022, 11:30 AM
I’ve managed to get a ticket for Tynecastle this week, but can’t make it to Hampden and I’m pretty gutted about it.

Cannae understand why any Hibs fan, who could go, just cannae be bothered to.

hibee-boys
08-04-2022, 11:37 AM
Looks like they’ve all but sold out. Bottom line is that they’ve got a large hardcore support than we do so not surprised that’s the case. It’ll give me even greater pleasure should we beat them.

LaMotta
08-04-2022, 11:45 AM
God forbid the fans get to be nearer the pitch and have a better view, than be 75 yards from the pitch!

Well yes, if it is detrimental to the team and the image of the club and the image of the Scottish game generally.

The view anyway from the South Upper is crap IMO. Still miles away from the pitch.

The issue is Hampden.

Nakedmanoncrack
08-04-2022, 11:45 AM
Looks like they’ve all but sold out. Bottom line is that they’ve got a large hardcore support than we do so not surprised that’s the case. It’ll give me even greater pleasure should we beat them.

Impressive if they have, neither Hibs or Hearts have ever sold out a Hampden semi-final.

Ronniekirk
08-04-2022, 11:49 AM
It didn't give us a boost against Ross County, Livingston, Ayr, Dunfermline etc.

Have been at them all and will there on Saturday As I support my team


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Green Blood
08-04-2022, 11:54 AM
Don't know where you got your info from. A quick look at the online map, on Hearts website, shows they've already sold considerably more than us and their public sale has only just started.

Nearly every section open to sales in the Hearts end, whilst we have around 7/8 sections not even open yet.

I was roughly right , these figures did not account for any public sales but todays public sale has rocketed their ticket sales.

LaMotta
08-04-2022, 12:01 PM
Not quite.

Even smaller clubs are consulted re allocation, the premise is "start from 50/50" with the Scottish Cup Final and work it out from there.

Clubs in the final (Hibs or Hearts) will be asked how many they can sell, and the way the sales are made will allow for returns / reallocation to the other club.

The SFA is an entirely different organisation from the SPFL, there are thousands of tickets distributed to all SFA affiliate clubs for the South Stand (which actually limits the allocation to the 2 clubs in the final). These (in my exp) almost inevitably end up in the hands of Rangers/Celtic fans, and you also have the debenture tickets in the upper section of the BT stand.

Even if you start from the premise that it was a 50/50 split of publicly available tickets between the clubs, that doesnt mean that each club has 25000 fans there. More like a 20000/30000 split at best if one of those pair are in the final.

I think we shot ourselves in the foot by demanding a 50 50 split for the 2017/18 League Cup Semi v Celtic. The club mistakenly assumed we would easily sell close to half based in our previous 2 visits to Hampden in the Scottish Cup. The league cup semi against either half of the bigot brothers was always going to be trickier to shift tickets. The SFA got hammered after that game. We should have picked our fights more strategically.

Edit: SPFL, not SFA

green day
08-04-2022, 12:05 PM
I think we shot ourselves in the foot by demanding a 50 50 split for the 2017/18 League Cup Semi v Celtic. The club mistakenly assumed we would easily sell close to half based in our previous 2 visits to Hampden in the Scottish Cup. The league cup semi against either half of the bigot brothers was always going to be trickier to shift tickets. The SFA got hammered after that game. We should have picked our fights more strategically.

Without trying to be a dick, the SFA didnt get hammered, as the allocation for that League Cup Final was nothing to do with them, that competition is not run by them.

Different competitions, different methodologies and ticketing - see my post on prev page.

LaMotta
08-04-2022, 12:07 PM
Without trying to be a dick, the SFA didnt get hammered, as the allocation for that League Cup Final was nothing to do with them, that competition is not run by them.

Different competitions, different methodologies and ticketing - see my post on prev page.

Sorry yes SPFL.

NAE NOOKIE
08-04-2022, 12:14 PM
It didn't give us a boost against Ross County, Livingston, Ayr, Dunfermline etc.

Maybe not, but the players of all of the clubs you quote here expected to run out at Hampden to see their support vastly outnumbered, so had no reason to feel their supporters had cushed out of the game because they thought they were going to lose, they were already prepared, in fact probably determined, to overcome the odds.

That situation is vastly different when it comes to a club like Hibs who have sold more than half of Hampden on numerous occasions and easily have the ability to sell at least 20,000 tickets. As things stand our team is going to run our a week on Saturday and have it made absolutely clear to them that thousands of their own supporters have no faith in their ability to win the game .... It may have escaped some folk's attention but sports clubs employ expensive sports psychologists for a reason and that's because mental confidence and positivity matter as much as physical and technical ability does.

Folk can kid themselves on all they want, but the absolute truth is that the come a week on Saturday it looks like the ****bags in our own support are going to hand a team who already have the advantage of better season long form another advantage.

The Hearts support ............ who numerous experts on this site keep telling me is not vastly different in overall numbers than ours ........ face exactly the same social and economic difficulties as we do, lack of money, family commitments, work commitments and worry about catching Covid in a large gathering and yet it seems they are on course to entirely sell out their half of the stadium.

So there are only two options here, either these folk are wrong and in fact Hearts have a considerably larger fanbase than Hibs do, or the main reason by a long way that the Hibs support is failing to buy into this game is the very worst one I can think to aim at a fellow football supporter .... that they have no loyalty whatsoever towards their club unless they think it has at least an even chance of winning and even for a derby where loyalty to your club should trump everything they would rather stay at home and not have their poor wee feelings hurt watching us lose a cup semi final to Hearts.

On that basis I absolutely agree that Hibs should come out now and say that for the first 5 days of ticket sales for the final if by some miracle we make it priority will be given for a ticket to anybody turning up at the ticket office with a stub from the semi final, one ticket per stub produced ... only after that 5 days starting on line sales and allowing season ticket holders 2 per ticket.

In fact, so that ST holders who were at the game are not disadvantaged in those 5 days producing a season ticket and semi final stub gets you three tickets in the first 5 days.

SteveHFC
08-04-2022, 12:17 PM
Hearts have sold over 19,000 and got extra tickets to sale.

B.H.F.C
08-04-2022, 12:28 PM
Our sales look to have all but stopped. Result needed tomorrow.

Mcbizz1998
08-04-2022, 12:30 PM
Our sales look to have all but stopped. Result needed tomorrow.

Anyone who buys a ticket only after a win tomorrow should have their name taken and outed by the club as the glory hunting bar stewards they undoubtedly are!!

stuart-farquhar
08-04-2022, 12:31 PM
About 20000 v 16000ish. About right in terms of actual supports. Always been more twirlers.

NAE NOOKIE
08-04-2022, 12:40 PM
About 20000 v 16000ish. About right in terms of actual supports. Always been more twirlers.

I agree, I've always maintained that they have an overall bigger support. But the fact is we have the ability to sell out this game even with that bigger Hearts support, this is not about disparity of numbers, this is about lack of loyalty.

Col2
08-04-2022, 12:43 PM
About 20000 v 16000ish. About right in terms of actual supports. Always been more twirlers.

Yup. And factoring in form etc

The sooner this game starts the better. We will have a big noisy support and so will they even if they have a few more. It’s all about the team, how they are set up and how they perform. Absolutely nothing else matters.

green day
08-04-2022, 12:46 PM
Yup. And factoring in form etc

The sooner this game starts the better. We will have a big noisy support and so will they even if they have a few more. It’s all about the team, how they are set up and how they perform. Absolutely nothing else matters.

Exactly, its not like it made a blind bit of difference that the Huns had a much larger support in the LC semi.

If we play well this weekend, we can get in the Hearts players heads - and I dont think they are as good as some (on here) seem to think they are.

hulk
08-04-2022, 12:47 PM
Our sales look to have all but stopped. Result needed tomorrow.

There is only single figures left in both South Lower and upper so any groups can’t be accommodated. To boost sales maybe we need to open another decent section as an alternative to the East. Might be that some are waiting on 2 or 3 together which at the moment is only in the East.

Since452
08-04-2022, 12:54 PM
About 20000 v 16000ish. About right in terms of actual supports. Always been more twirlers.

Yup. Plus factor in that they're on a high and we can barely win a game at the moment. I thought we'd take around 15k to the semi so to take almost 17k is decent and historically very good.

mcohibs
08-04-2022, 12:59 PM
Disappointing that we will have a fair number less in attendance than they will. Don't get it.

davhibby
08-04-2022, 01:00 PM
There is only single figures left in both South Lower and upper so any groups can’t be accommodated. To boost sales maybe we need to open another decent section as an alternative to the East. Might be that some are waiting on 2 or 3 together which at the moment is only in the East.

No, the east is all we should sell from now so it’s not half empty

Since452
08-04-2022, 01:02 PM
I should be seeing double by kick off so will be nice to see us with 34k there 😉

hibsbollah
08-04-2022, 01:03 PM
Am I alone in really not caring if they have 10-15% more fans that we do?

Leith Green
08-04-2022, 01:07 PM
Exactly, its not like it made a blind bit of difference that the Huns had a much larger support in the LC semi.

If we play well this weekend, we can get in the Hearts players heads - and I dont think they are as good as some (on here) seem to think they are.


People drawing comparisons to that senmi final vs rangers need to stop. Rangers in the league cup for a start rather than the Scottish.. But lets be honest here , this is a game we should be going into as 50/50 in every sense of the word. Some of our supporters have ****ing bottled it and changed that so lets not draw comparisons to a game that has no relevance to this one

easty
08-04-2022, 01:08 PM
Looks like they’ve all but sold out. Bottom line is that they’ve got a large hardcore support than we do so not surprised that’s the case. It’ll give me even greater pleasure should we beat them.

The bottom line is also that they’re comfortably third in the table and we’re struggling. I reckon if those circumstances were reversed we’d have sold more than them.

we are hibs
08-04-2022, 01:08 PM
Some people in their element on this thread i see.

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Potty78
08-04-2022, 01:10 PM
Am I alone in really not caring if they have 10-15% more fans that we do?

Nope, I find the we sell more tickets than u chat boring. We are taking what we normally take to a Scottish Cup semi in previous years. Hearts in my years have always had a bigger support than us but no that big. 4-5 thousand probably. If we could reach 17,000 then that would be ok. Personally wouldn't have opened the south upper and would have concentrated on behind the goals. I cant go as I fly home from holiday and a few others on our bus are still playing.

Since452
08-04-2022, 01:10 PM
Am I alone in really not caring if they have 10-15% more fans that we do?

No

easty
08-04-2022, 01:10 PM
Am I alone in really not caring if they have 10-15% more fans that we do?

Nope

green day
08-04-2022, 01:13 PM
People drawing comparisons to that senmi final vs rangers need to stop. Rangers in the league cup for a start rather than the Scottish.. But lets be honest here , this is a game we should be going into as 50/50 in every sense of the word. Some of our supporters have ****ing bottled it and changed that so lets not draw comparisons to a game that has no relevance to this one

Ok then, let's not draw a comparison with the last semi we were in........

Moulin Yarns
08-04-2022, 01:16 PM
Am I alone in really not caring if they have 10-15% more fans that we do?

No. I don't get the obsession with crowd numbers, I mean, are people complaining that there will be less hibs supporters in the ground tomorrow, for example?

Next Saturday, I will be working from 10 until 3, outside, so probably won't be able to follow the game in any meaningful way. Will that have any effect on the way hibs play or what the result is? Of course not. If I could be there or not will make no difference to the outcome.

StevesFamau5
08-04-2022, 01:16 PM
Am I alone in really not caring if they have 10-15% more fans that we do?

Yeah, it's pretty sad when people care more about attendance than the actual product on the park.

Win tomorrow and it may change.

B.H.F.C
08-04-2022, 01:16 PM
Ok then, let's not draw a comparison with the last semi we were in........

Next week doesn’t compare to that though. This is miles bigger. It’s our biggest game in years and it’s going to have a big impact the whole club going forward (be it positive or negative depending on the result).

Chorley Hibee
08-04-2022, 01:17 PM
Hearts end all but sold out looking at their online map.

Lucky if there's 200 left so would imagine they will sell before next weekend.

Can see them asking for some of our tickets in the South Stand.

Hibernian Verse
08-04-2022, 01:20 PM
Hearts end all but sold out looking at their online map.

Lucky if there's 200 left so would imagine they will sell before next weekend.

Can see them asking for some of our tickets in the South Stand.

They apparently have done already

Leith Green
08-04-2022, 01:21 PM
Ok then, let's not draw a comparison with the last semi we were in........


Thats fine , if you think they are comparable.. Apart from the fact they are both semi finals , they are completely different surroundings and occasions

Billy Whizz
08-04-2022, 01:22 PM
The more Hearts sell, the more we get as our share😀

CB_NO3
08-04-2022, 01:25 PM
Wee team we officially are. Well done the folk who cant be bothered.

LunasBoots
08-04-2022, 01:29 PM
Hearts end all but sold out looking at their online map.

Lucky if there's 200 left so would imagine they will sell before next weekend.

Can see them asking for some of our tickets in the South Stand.

Have already secured a extra allocation apparently

Stairway 2 7
08-04-2022, 01:30 PM
Jambo incognito fans can't help themselves in this thread. The only team that will have the bragging rights are the winners. If we pump them, do you think they will say but we had a wee bit more fans. We're having a crap season they are having their best in a long time

yonder1875
08-04-2022, 01:31 PM
Could not care about them having a couple thousand more fans than us but I’m really just struggling to understand fans who are able who are giving this one a miss.

Oh well, the Rangers semi wasn’t any worse (arguably better) from a fan perspective.

Mon the Hibs.

Chorley Hibee
08-04-2022, 01:32 PM
Have already secured a extra allocation apparently

We've barely sold a ticket today by the looks of our online map.

Tomorrow is crucial now.

Brightside
08-04-2022, 01:37 PM
They will sell more than us. They have a much bigger die hard Fanbase. Such is life.

Frazerbob
08-04-2022, 01:40 PM
Yeah, it's pretty sad when people care more about attendance than the actual product on the park.

Win tomorrow and it may change.

You think people care more about the attendance than the result?

B.H.F.C
08-04-2022, 01:40 PM
Jambo incognito fans can't help themselves in this thread. The only team that will have the bragging rights are the winners. If we pump them, do you think they will say but we had a wee bit more fans. We're having a crap season they are having their best in a long time

I’d rather win with 16k Hibs fans than lose with 20k Hibs fans.

However, I just happen to think that big gaps in our end could have an impact. Their players seeing a full end for them and empty sections in our end is likely to give them a boost as much as anything.

JamesHFC
08-04-2022, 01:43 PM
When Hibs went up to lift the Scottish Cup we were there.

bingo70
08-04-2022, 01:44 PM
They will sell more than us. They have a much bigger die hard Fanbase. Such is life.

Calm doon 😂

We’re two pretty even sized clubs, they’re going into it with a brilliant record against us at Hampden, with a better team on better form. Of course they’re going to have a greater demand for tickets.

Pretty Boy
08-04-2022, 01:46 PM
No. I don't get the obsession with crowd numbers, I mean, are people complaining that there will be less hibs supporters in the ground tomorrow, for example?

Next Saturday, I will be working from 10 until 3, outside, so probably won't be able to follow the game in any meaningful way. Will that have any effect on the way hibs play or what the result is? Of course not. If I could be there or not will make no difference to the outcome.

The difference tomorrow is that there will be as many Hibs fans in the ground as it is possible for there to be given our allocation (and probably a few more if previous visits to Tynecastle are anything to go by).

In a semi final that started with an even 50/50 split allocation the Hibs players are going to run out to thousands of empty seats whilst Hearts will see a full end. That has a psychological impact regardless of what anyone argues. It's also incomparable to the Rangers game at which the Hibs end was smaller but almost full.

I wouldn't even mind as much if it wasn't for the fact that the people not bothering their ***** and telling anyone who will listen all the reasons why they aren't going to this one will also be the loudest when moaning about how our final allocation is handled. Covid and the insurmountable task of travelling 50 miles along the motorway will fade into the background then. They'll also be the 1st to criticise the team for bottling it and not showing up if we get beat. Football supporters support their team through the good and bad times. If you are willfully choosing not to go to this game then you are choosing not to be a supporter.

JamesHFC
08-04-2022, 01:47 PM
I’d rather win with 16k Hibs fans than lose with 20k Hibs fans.

However, I just happen to think that big gaps in our end could have an impact. Their players seeing a full end for them and empty sections in our end is likely to give them a boost as much as anything.

It didn’t give The Rangers a boost when we sent 30,000 home distraught a few months ago.

Stuart93
08-04-2022, 01:48 PM
They will sell more than us. They have a much bigger die hard Fanbase. Such is life.

Unfortunately true. They have a bigger % of more loyal fans than we do.

Brooster
08-04-2022, 01:48 PM
The bed wetters are all over this thread now. We have sold 16-17k with 8 days to go, we are doing just fine all things considered. We shouldn't give a toss about that lot.

StevesFamau5
08-04-2022, 01:48 PM
You think people care more about the attendance than the result?

Yeah it looks like it on this thread at least. As well as the amount of nonsense on other social media sites.

Stuart93
08-04-2022, 01:49 PM
Calm doon 😂

We’re two pretty even sized clubs, they’re going into it with a brilliant record against us at Hampden, with a better team on better form. Of course they’re going to have a greater demand for tickets.

I reckon it would be the same even if roles were reversed in the league imo

.Sean.
08-04-2022, 01:49 PM
Hearts end all but sold out looking at their online map.

Lucky if there's 200 left so would imagine they will sell before next weekend.

Can see them asking for some of our tickets in the South Stand.
Embarrassing.

NAE NOOKIE
08-04-2022, 01:52 PM
Yeah, it's pretty sad when people care more about attendance than the actual product on the park.

Win tomorrow and it may change.

What's wrong with caring about both? Win lose or draw this game the one thing that'll have been proved is that this club has too many fans who only give a rats arse about it when it's winning.

That goes for practically any club ... but this is the one game where if you do claim to support Hibs you should set aside disappointment at it's current difficulties and at least try to act as if you care about it ... you can moan about how ***** you think we are later FFS.

green day
08-04-2022, 01:52 PM
The bed wetters are all over this thread now. We have sold 16-17k with 8 days to go, we are doing just fine all things considered. We shouldn't give a toss about that lot.

This is a decent point - I actually thought we would perhaps only sell 14000 in total by game day.

For a team that is playing poorly, cant buy a goal and appear to be fully expected to lose twice in consecutive weeks to Hearts - to have sold 17000 for the final and 3000 for tomorrow is fantastic.

I appreciate that does not play into the narrative for some - tough.

.Sean.
08-04-2022, 01:54 PM
I reckon it would be the same even if roles were reversed in the league imo
Hearts would have sold out or thereabouts regardless I agree. Hibs would have about sold out if we were playing better or had more of a chance of winning which says it all about the attitude of some of our support. Anyone no going out of choice is a complete and utter part timer no two ways about it.

60 or so miles along the road for most locals, National cup semi, against them, and folk using time and location as an excuse is bad enough but no going simply as we might get beat is shameful. ‘We’ll support your evermore’ :rolleyes:

StevesFamau5
08-04-2022, 01:57 PM
What's wrong with caring about both? Win lose or draw this game the one thing that'll have been proved is that this club has too many fans who only give a rats arse about it when it's winning.

That goes for practically any club ... but this is the one game where if you do claim to support Hibs you should set aside disappointment at it's current difficulties and at least try to act as if you care about it ... you can moan about how ***** you think we are later FFS.

Not disputing that at all. But I'm simply stating that whinging about ticket sales will not accomplish anything nor change the narrative.

It's like people need to be moaning in order to be content which is just weird IMO

NAE NOOKIE
08-04-2022, 01:59 PM
This is a decent point - I actually thought we would perhaps only sell 14000 in total by game day.

For a team that is playing poorly, cant buy a goal and appear to be fully expected to lose twice in consecutive weeks to Hearts - to have sold 17000 for the final and 3000 for tomorrow is fantastic.

I appreciate that does not play into the narrative for some - tough.

Aye, but what's the 'narrative' mate? If the narrative is that too many of our so called 'supporters' are turning their back on the club for what at any time would be one of the biggest games the club could possibly be involved in then that narrative is entirely justified

But don't worry ..... If at full time a week on Saturday I'm leaving Hampden to the mocking cheers of the Hearts fans coz we have indeed lost the game I'll be sure to come back on here to congratulate all the folk who made the right call in not going ... hell, they should even have their own thread where the can come on and take the piss out of thise of us who were stupid enough to think supporting our club was worthwhile, even though we didn't think it was going to win.

Since452
08-04-2022, 02:05 PM
I was having a think about the times i've seen us lose when we've had more fans at Hampden than the opposition, sometimes a lot more. The oppositionn didn't exactly throw in the towel and say they were beaten.

Aberdeen 2017
Ross County 2016
Falkirk 2015
Dunfermline 2007
Dundee United 2005
Livingston 2004
Ayr 2002

We'll have aroud 3k less then them by kickoff and hopefully 17k more by full time.

green day
08-04-2022, 02:06 PM
Aye, but what's the 'narrative' mate? If the narrative is that too many of our so called 'supporters' are turning their back on the club for what at any time would be one of the biggest games the club could possibly be involved in then that narrative is entirely justified.

Its not a pop at you, but perhaps this is just the size of our core support? Every team has guys that only turn out for finals.

Hearts (inc half seasons) have 15000 ST holders, and are taking maybe 30% more to the semi?

I cant remember how many ST we have, but I dont think we are being outdone on the %age over our ST numbers.

Ever since I can remember, Hearts have had a bit of a bigger core support - maybe some need to acknowledge that and move on?

SteveHFC
08-04-2022, 02:15 PM
Hearts would have sold out or thereabouts regardless I agree. Hibs would have about sold out if we were playing better or had more of a chance of winning which says it all about the attitude of some of our support. Anyone no going out of choice is a complete and utter part timer no two ways about it.

60 or so miles along the road for most locals, National cup semi, against them, and folk using time and location as an excuse is bad enough but no going simply as we might get beat is shameful. ‘We’ll support your evermore’ :rolleyes:

The same people who aren’t going unless they have legit reasons will demand a ticket for the final if we get there.

NAE NOOKIE
08-04-2022, 02:34 PM
Its not a pop at you, but perhaps this is just the size of our core support? Every team has guys that only turn out for finals.

Hearts (inc half seasons) have 15000 ST holders, and are taking maybe 30% more to the semi?

I cant remember how many ST we have, but I dont think we are being outdone on the %age over our ST numbers.

Ever since I can remember, Hearts have had a bit of a bigger core support - maybe some need to acknowledge that and move on?

I have always supported that view mate, many times in the face of folk on here telling me it isn't so and that our supports are roughly the same size. It does not negate the absolute fact that Hibs have a support well capable of selling out our end for this match and that we are not because too many of that support are nothing less than fair weather fans who disappear like snowmen in hell as soon as the chips are down.

Leith Green
08-04-2022, 02:40 PM
This is a decent point - I actually thought we would perhaps only sell 14000 in total by game day.

For a team that is playing poorly, cant buy a goal and appear to be fully expected to lose twice in consecutive weeks to Hearts - to have sold 17000 for the final and 3000 for tomorrow is fantastic.

I appreciate that does not play into the narrative for some - tough.



Lets be honest here .. Sales are nowhere near 17k , and im not even convinced that we are much above 15k .. we have barely sold any all week.

Mrimbetween
08-04-2022, 02:46 PM
Lets be honest here .. Sales are nowhere near 17k , and im not even convinced that we are much above 15k .. we have barely sold any all week.##

That was my concern as well, dot counters required

But as i said its the result that counts

green day
08-04-2022, 02:49 PM
Lets be honest here .. Sales are nowhere near 17k , and im not even convinced that we are much above 15k .. we have barely sold any all week.

Only going on what others said a page or so back, I cba arguing about something I dont actually know the answer to.

Frankly I think this thread has had enough of my time.

(not a go at you, by the way, just had enough of the incessant ****ing moaning).

Antifa Hibs
08-04-2022, 02:51 PM
Lets be honest here .. Sales are nowhere near 17k , and im not even convinced that we are much above 15k .. we have barely sold any all week.

Yep I reckon about 15k aswell.

Hearts tweeted the got 19000 and have just received more. Their initial 19000 included all of Q in the upper (4 blocks), which is twice the amount of we have sold in the upper (having only nearly sold 2 blocks of H). We have sold all of F behind the goal and G1 out but G2 is pretty much empty and G3 to G7 not on sale.

Guestimation is out of the initial 19000 we have 500 still to sell in the upper and around 5000 behind the goals. We'll be lucky to have 15,000, they'll be closer to 21,000. They'll get all of N in the upper, maybe some of of M aswell and I suspect some more debenture seats in the south lower.

Pish really.

If this is how fans feel for a Scottish Cup semi against them, should the unthinkable back to back defeats happen, the board must be worried about season ticket sales. Could be back down to sub 10,000 for the first time in a while.

BS44
08-04-2022, 02:55 PM
Unfortunately our team has done nothing to encourage supporters to go to the semi.

marinello59
08-04-2022, 02:55 PM
Unfortunately our team has done nothing to encourage supporters to go to the semi.

Getting to the semi final was encouragement enough for me. :flag:

BS44
08-04-2022, 02:57 PM
Getting to the semi final was encouragement enough for me. :flag:

And me, but the general point holds.

oneone73
08-04-2022, 03:11 PM
And me, but the general point holds.

I don't think it does.

Stuart93
08-04-2022, 03:13 PM
I don't think it does.

It certainly does. A better hibs team would’ve seen us sell more

JammyDoidger
08-04-2022, 03:18 PM
Hibs need to have a solid few years finishing best of the rest for this mentality in our fans to change. Christ Ron Gordon is certainly not living up to what he said when he came in, best of the rest first? We are no where near it. We seem to have a good season then collapse the next. Hearts aren't even a good side, we are just down in the dumps atm. If we were to lose the next 2 games. I'd go into this summer window with a new manager I think and start completely fresh as Maloney will struggle big time to win the fans back. Those of us who do make the trip will do our bit as always, but we really need something back from the players and the club here, or it's going to be a huge summer for us as another season of this is unthinkable considering where we have been.

Hibs90
08-04-2022, 03:18 PM
Anyone who CAN go and is choosing not to is an absolute disgrace.

Imagine being a player and running out to empty seats in the Hibs end again. Embarrassing.

GreenGray
08-04-2022, 03:19 PM
Doesn’t help that we can’t release tickets in the good seats until the **** seats have sold out, SFA is a shambles!

Also read that SFA doesn’t allow fans who haven’t bought a ticket off the database in the last 12 months to buy a ticket for the semi. If that’s true what a shambles, SFA are a shot show.

JammyDoidger
08-04-2022, 03:21 PM
Anyone who CAN go and is choosing not to is an absolute disgrace.

Imagine being a player and running out to empty seats in the Hibs end again. Embarrassing.

I totally agree, it's disgusting if hearts were near the bottom of the league we would be all over this. It's the fear of losing that's stopping folk going, puff the chest out man. But the players are also a disgrace they are the ones that have us in this position. Time for them to give us something back.

southern hibby
08-04-2022, 03:22 PM
I’m not making any excuses for anyone ( as I’m going to the semi and the final in May 😉 ) However can folk actually afford the semi and a season ticket at the same time?

Maybe ( just maybe ) this has been a bad call bringing out season tickets at the same time. Does anyone know if Hertz have got their season tickets on sale yet?

GGTTH

HH81
08-04-2022, 03:22 PM
Anyone who CAN go and is choosing not to is an absolute disgrace.

Imagine being a player and running out to empty seats in the Hibs end again. Embarrassing.

The players will not care. They will clap the ones there and get on with the job.

Mrimbetween
08-04-2022, 03:23 PM
Hibs need to have a solid few years finishing best of the rest for this mentality in our fans to change. Christ Ron Gordon is certainly not living up to what he said when he came in, best of the rest first? We are no where near it. We seem to have a good season then collapse the next. Hearts aren't even a good side, we are just down in the dumps atm. If we were to lose the next 2 games. I'd go into this summer window with a new manager I think and start completely fresh as Maloney will struggle big time to win the fans back. Those of us who do make the trip will do our bit as always, but we really need something back from the players and the club here, or it's going to be a huge summer for us as another season of this is unthinkable considering where we have been.

If it goes boobs up sacking the manager and his staff aint gonny help

The financial implications alone are scary as its a double dunt

We are talking millions

Lets see what pans out in the next two week please

oneone73
08-04-2022, 03:23 PM
It certainly does. A better hibs team would’ve seen us sell more

You're in effect saying that people are choosing not to go because they're afraid of losing. That's pathetic imo.

Ronniekirk
08-04-2022, 03:24 PM
I’m not making any excuses for anyone ( as I’m going to the semi and the final in May [emoji6] ) However can folk actually afford the semi and a season ticket at the same time?

Maybe ( just maybe ) this has been a bad call bringing out season tickets at the same time. Does anyone know if Hertz have got their season tickets on sale yet?

GGTTH

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Hibs90
08-04-2022, 03:26 PM
The players will not care. They will clap the ones there and get on with the job.

Yes they will, but they will also note the empty seats. Fans already beat before a ball has been kicked, again.

Embarrassing.

Broken Gnome
08-04-2022, 03:27 PM
I’m not making any excuses for anyone ( as I’m going to the semi and the final in May 😉 ) However can folk actually afford the semi and a season ticket at the same time?

Maybe ( just maybe ) this has been a bad call bringing out season tickets at the same time. Does anyone know if Hertz have got their season tickets on sale yet?

GGTTH

Then it would be final tickets clashing with season tickets, and other clubs in our position would be having to deal with the same.

Sad fact is, given our form isn't much different now as it was prior to this particular draw, there would have been a good few thousand intending not to go to a semi final regardless of who we got.

Hibernian Verse
08-04-2022, 03:28 PM
Yes they will, but they will also note the empty seats. Fans already beat before a ball has been kicked, again.

Embarrassing.

A win tomorrow and you'll see a miracle increase in tickets sold. By which time it's too late to get our full allocation.

SHODAN
08-04-2022, 03:34 PM
Agree totally actually stayed until the end at the final not to be spoken about. Bottom line is the supporters at the game need to really get behind the team on the day.

You're a better man than me. I left when the fifth went in and that's the only Hibs game I've left before injury time.

LunasBoots
08-04-2022, 03:37 PM
Staggering along struggling to get wins and selling our best player hasn't helped matters let's be honest, the product on the park has been abysmal, hopefully this at the very least sends the club the message that we need much much better in the summer, I've also heard we have sold significantly less than the 16,000 some think we have.

hibee_nation
08-04-2022, 03:37 PM
Not fussed they will have more fans there. The issue was same as last time will they drown us out while we skulked or are our support going to match them up and sing till our lungs burst :flag:

B.H.F.C
08-04-2022, 03:41 PM
The players will not care. They will clap the ones there and get on with the job.

Our players might not care. Their players might get a big lift looking at their crowd outnumber ours and get the feeling that it means that bit more to them.

Stuart93
08-04-2022, 03:46 PM
You're in effect saying that people are choosing not to go because they're afraid of losing. That's pathetic imo.

That’s exactly what I’m saying. That’s definitely the case

He's here!
08-04-2022, 03:50 PM
It certainly does. A better hibs team would’ve seen us sell more

There's no question about that. Were the roles reversed, Hearts would be struggling to shift tickets while the Hibs end would be heading for a sellout.

Hearts fans scent blood and want to be there to gloat. Most Hibs fans, if they're being honest, know the chances of defeat are high and are privately braced for it. Many just don't want to subject themselves to it. It's not complicated.

hibbysam
08-04-2022, 03:55 PM
There's no question about that. Were the roles reversed, Hearts would be struggling to shift tickets while the Hibs end would be heading for a sellout.

Hearts fans scent blood and want to be there to gloat. Most Hibs fans, if they're being honest, know the chances of defeat are high and are privately braced for it. Many just don't want to subject themselves to it. It's not complicated.

Then they are *****bags, plain and simple. Not going to a semi against your biggest rivals an hour along the road because we might lose is hilarious. And not a chance if roles were reversed would we have sold out and hearts down at our levels of sales.

LaMotta
08-04-2022, 03:58 PM
Doesn’t help that we can’t release tickets in the good seats until the **** seats have sold out, SFA is a shambles!

Also read that SFA doesn’t allow fans who haven’t bought a ticket off the database in the last 12 months to buy a ticket for the semi. If that’s true what a shambles, SFA are a shot show.

Didn't seem to affect Hearts.

HH81
08-04-2022, 03:59 PM
Yes they will, but they will also note the empty seats. Fans already beat before a ball has been kicked, again.

Embarrassing.

Will the players do that tomorrow then as their will be less hibs fans in attendance?

BoomtownHibees
08-04-2022, 04:01 PM
Doesn’t help that we can’t release tickets in the good seats until the **** seats have sold out, SFA is a shambles!

Also read that SFA doesn’t allow fans who haven’t bought a ticket off the database in the last 12 months to buy a ticket for the semi. If that’s true what a shambles, SFA are a shot show.

Another ***** excuse

Dashing Bob S
08-04-2022, 04:03 PM
Yep I reckon about 15k aswell.

Hearts tweeted the got 19000 and have just received more. Their initial 19000 included all of Q in the upper (4 blocks), which is twice the amount of we have sold in the upper (having only nearly sold 2 blocks of H). We have sold all of F behind the goal and G1 out but G2 is pretty much empty and G3 to G7 not on sale.

Guestimation is out of the initial 19000 we have 500 still to sell in the upper and around 5000 behind the goals. We'll be lucky to have 15,000, they'll be closer to 21,000. They'll get all of N in the upper, maybe some of of M aswell and I suspect some more debenture seats in the south lower.

Pish really.

If this is how fans feel for a Scottish Cup semi against them, should the unthinkable back to back defeats happen, the board must be worried about season ticket sales. Could be back down to sub 10,000 for the first time in a while.

It’s their cup final.

It’s just another semi for us.

That’s just the way the respective fan bases see it.

SHODAN
08-04-2022, 04:07 PM
It’s their cup final.

It’s just another semi for us.

That’s just the way the respective fan bases see it.

It should be our cup final. Every game against Hearts should be our cup final. Maybe if we treated the games like that and not "just another game" then we'd win more of them.

Any Hibs player who says that pre-derby should be dropped from the squad. That attitude infuriates me.

LunasBoots
08-04-2022, 04:07 PM
Yep I reckon about 15k aswell.

Hearts tweeted the got 19000 and have just received more. Their initial 19000 included all of Q in the upper (4 blocks), which is twice the amount of we have sold in the upper (having only nearly sold 2 blocks of H). We have sold all of F behind the goal and G1 out but G2 is pretty much empty and G3 to G7 not on sale.

Guestimation is out of the initial 19000 we have 500 still to sell in the upper and around 5000 behind the goals. We'll be lucky to have 15,000, they'll be closer to 21,000. They'll get all of N in the upper, maybe some of of M aswell and I suspect some more debenture seats in the south lower.

Pish really.

If this is how fans feel for a Scottish Cup semi against them, should the unthinkable back to back defeats happen, the board must be worried about season ticket sales. Could be back down to sub 10,000 for the first time in a while.

Seen elsewhere someone who asked at the ticket office said 14,500.

BoomtownHibees
08-04-2022, 04:08 PM
It should be our cup final. Every game against Hearts should be our cup final. Maybe if we treated the games like that and not "just another game" then we'd win more of them.

Any Hibs player who says that pre-derby should be dropped from the squad. That attitude infuriates me.

Seems like it’s the attitude of some fans as well

Stuart93
08-04-2022, 04:08 PM
There's no question about that. Were the roles reversed, Hearts would be struggling to shift tickets while the Hibs end would be heading for a sellout.

Hearts fans scent blood and want to be there to gloat. Most Hibs fans, if they're being honest, know the chances of defeat are high and are privately braced for it. Many just don't want to subject themselves to it. It's not complicated.

I disagree. I reckon hearts sell a good amount of tickets regardless of how they’re playing for a semi vs us because they know they’ve always got a good chance.

Their hardcore is larger than ours

CapitalGreen
08-04-2022, 04:12 PM
It certainly does. A better hibs team would’ve seen us sell more

Would it? I remember an equally pitiful uptake of tickets from Hibs fans for a semi v Hearts when our team was nicknamed “the golden generation” and managed by Mowbray. How much better than that would things need to be for fans to turn up in close to equal numbers as our neighbours? There will always be excuses for some fans not to go.

SHODAN
08-04-2022, 04:14 PM
Another ***** excuse

These excuses didn't exist for Ross County in the LC, for the 2012 final, the 2013 final, hell any final that wasn't this season and any game we thought we'd win.

You can bet your arse that if we win a week on Saturday then there'll be no complaints about a bad view or whatever for the final either.

Frazerbob
08-04-2022, 04:24 PM
These excuses didn't exist for Ross County in the LC, for the 2012 final, the 2013 final, hell any final that wasn't this season and any game we thought we'd win.

You can bet your arse that if we win a week on Saturday then there'll be no complaints about a bad view or whatever for the final either.

It’s very simple, when we think we’ll win at Hampden (semi or final) we can take a huge support. Livi, Killie, Ross County, Dunfermline, Dundee Utd…….. When we are underdogs, especially against Hearts, we have a very high number of *****bags. Hopefully the *****bags are cursing themselves next Saturday.

He's here!
08-04-2022, 04:25 PM
Then they are *****bags, plain and simple. Not going to a semi against your biggest rivals an hour along the road because we might lose is hilarious. And not a chance if roles were reversed would we have sold out and hearts down at our levels of sales.

Check out some of the footage from derbies at ER in the McLeish era. The Hearts end was rarely even half full because they (rightly) knew they were most likely heading for a beating.

There's more than a 'might lose' about this semi-final. Who, hand on heart, is confident we'll win?

BoomtownHibees
08-04-2022, 04:26 PM
Check out some of the footage from derbies at ER in the McLeish era. The Hearts end was rarely even half full because they (rightly) knew they were most likely heading for a beating.

There's more than a 'might lose' about this semi-final. Who, hand on heart, is confident we'll win?

I wouldn’t say I’m confident however surely it’s always a might win/might lose?

Either way, as a Hibs fan, I can’t think of anywhere else I’d rather be next Saturday

HH81
08-04-2022, 04:27 PM
Check out some of the footage from derbies at ER in the McLeish era. The Hearts end was rarely even half full because they (rightly) knew they were most likely heading for a beating.

There's more than a 'might lose' about this semi-final. Who, hand on heart, is confident we'll win?

Is it not 50/50 given neither team has won a derby this season?

coldingham hibs
08-04-2022, 04:27 PM
Doesn’t really matter who has the biggest support at the game, we’ve had plenty, too many, Hampden visits where we outnumber the opposition by vast numbers but have been pumped. It’s all about what the players do on the park. Let’s face it our record against Hearts is woefully unequal so they turn up expecting to win. Until we turn the tables in the big games then things won’t change. Hopefully that starts this fortnight 🇳🇬

SHODAN
08-04-2022, 04:27 PM
Check out some of the footage from derbies at ER in the McLeish era. The Hearts end was rarely even half full because they (rightly) knew they were most likely heading for a beating.

There's more than a 'might lose' about this semi-final. Who, hand on heart, is confident we'll win?

We sold out the 2012 final with one of the worst Hibs teams, perhaps THE worst in recent memory, on a run of ten games without a derby win and three straight derby defeats. What was the line of thinking there?

BS44
08-04-2022, 04:27 PM
You're in effect saying that people are choosing not to go because they're afraid of losing. That's pathetic imo.

Pathetic but true.

Mcbizz1998
08-04-2022, 04:31 PM
Lots of people claiming not to care about this but you can bet if it was the other way round we would be revelling in it.

It’s pretty pathetic not being able to get close to selling this out imo and hearts fans will rightly rip the pish out of those of us with the bollocks to attend.

Hibs90
08-04-2022, 04:34 PM
Will the players do that tomorrow then as their will be less hibs fans in attendance?

We sold out our allocation tomorrow.

We are. Not even close to selling out the semi. It’s pathetic.

Lee Marvin
08-04-2022, 04:39 PM
Let's face it, hearts have a larger fan base who regularly attend games. Has been this way my whole life really.

However, if the 14.5k figure is correct it both pathetic and worrying. Yes, it won't affect the game at all (like others have said) however it is a sad indictment of the apathy amongst the support.

Lose on the 16th and we could see very low season ticket sales (possiblity as low as 7k)

Ringothedog
08-04-2022, 04:40 PM
Still 625 tickets available. Not many gone today.probably about 100 as tickets keep on popping up in “sold out” sections

staunchhibby
08-04-2022, 04:40 PM
Unfortunately unable To go semi but will content myself sitting in front of tv in Italy.Should we win then I will be at Hampden for the final

HH81
08-04-2022, 04:51 PM
Lots of people claiming not to care about this but you can bet if it was the other way round we would be revelling in it.

It’s pretty pathetic not being able to get close to selling this out imo and hearts fans will rightly rip the pish out of those of us with the bollocks to attend.

I reckon they will be on the way home and never mention the crowd or game again if they lose.

DIXIHIBS
08-04-2022, 05:00 PM
I reckon they will be on the way home and never mention the crowd or game again if they lose.

Thats it for me. Win the game and no one on either side will mention the crowd. Over to you hibs, do it for the loyal hibbies.

He's here!
08-04-2022, 05:08 PM
We sold out the 2012 final with one of the worst Hibs teams, perhaps THE worst in recent memory, on a run of ten games without a derby win and three straight derby defeats. What was the line of thinking there?

First final v Hearts since Logie Green? A bit of a bounce from the unexpected semi-final win v the sheep plus the fact IIRC we'd turned in a couple of good showings in the league to kill off the threat of relegation? A final will also tempt more along than a semi-final.

At present we are, and have been for some time, a team that it's hard to motivate yourself to go along and watch. One which we no longer expect goals from, rather we just hope there might be some. The Ron Gordon era, while looking OK on paper, has in my view been steadily sucking away the enthusiasm of the fans rather than ramping it up. A mixture of frustration and increasing apathy is the current state of play and I won't be the only one who pretty much expects to see Hearts end our top-six hopes tomorrow then follow it up by giving us a bit of a thumping in the cup semi. Pessimistic? Definitely. But realistic too.

He's here!
08-04-2022, 05:12 PM
Let's face it, hearts have a larger fan base who regularly attend games. Has been this way my whole life really.

However, if the 14.5k figure is correct it both pathetic and worrying. Yes, it won't affect the game at all (like others have said) however it is a sad indictment of the apathy amongst the support.

Lose on the 16th and we could see very low season ticket sales (possiblity as low as 7k)

Don't know how old you are, but in their yo-yo years from the mid-70s to the early 80s they were playing in front of crowds which on occasion were less than 2k. I remember going along to Tynecastle with a yam-supporting friend to watch them play (I think) Clydebank in the First Division (the season they failed to come back up). The attendance was 1,800.

Lee Marvin
08-04-2022, 05:19 PM
Don't know how old you are, but in their yo-yo years from the mid-70s to the early 80s they were playing in front of crowds which on occasion were less than 2k. I remember going along to Tynecastle with a yam-supporting friend to watch them play (I think) Clydebank in the First Division (the season they failed to come back up). The attendance was 1,800.

Born in 84. Hearts have more fans than us in my generation, almost without question unfortunately

CapitalGreen
08-04-2022, 05:32 PM
A mixture of frustration and increasing apathy is the current state of play and I won't be the only one who pretty much expects to see Hearts end our top-six hopes tomorrow then follow it up by giving us a bit of a thumping in the cup semi. Pessimistic? Definitely. But realistic too.

Correct, our “support” is full of *****bags.

Scotty Leither
08-04-2022, 05:40 PM
It should be our cup final. Every game against Hearts should be our cup final. Maybe if we treated the games like that and not "just another game" then we'd win more of them.

Any Hibs player who says that pre-derby should be dropped from the squad. That attitude infuriates me.

Yup…apparent indifference to this fixture at Easter Road has pissed me off for a long time.

That spell we had a couple of years ago of nine(?) unbeaten against them had a section of their support burning their beige cardigans in a fury at the Baberton Hearts Conservative club.

Two wins in a row would tip them over the edge, but I cannae see it.

Still going to both games hoping to proved wrong, though 😑

How ‘bout it Hibs?

GreenCastle
08-04-2022, 05:45 PM
First final v Hearts since Logie Green? A bit of a bounce from the unexpected semi-final win v the sheep plus the fact IIRC we'd turned in a couple of good showings in the league to kill off the threat of relegation? A final will also tempt more along than a semi-final.

At present we are, and have been for some time, a team that it's hard to motivate yourself to go along and watch. One which we no longer expect goals from, rather we just hope there might be some. The Ron Gordon era, while looking OK on paper, has in my view been steadily sucking away the enthusiasm of the fans rather than ramping it up. A mixture of frustration and increasing apathy is the current state of play and I won't be the only one who pretty much expects to see Hearts end our top-six hopes tomorrow then follow it up by giving us a bit of a thumping in the cup semi. Pessimistic? Definitely. But realistic too.

To be fair folk complain all the time on here that going to Easter Road has been a tough task this season let alone to a semi in a different city - so not sure what fans were really expecting.

The expectation, mentality and quality of the player at the club has to improve - the also means the manager winning more games regularly - only that way will the crowds start to increase and believe again.

Seems the die hards / folk with blind loyalty are going to the semi final - many not even expecting a win.

Many other Hibs (die hards / casual / part time) fans who don't think it's worth the £ or hassle are clearly staying away. Call them soft / scared / fed up - probably a mixture but that's the reality and only the playing side / owners and manager can change this over time with results on the pitch getting everyone pulling in same direction.

BoomtownHibees
08-04-2022, 05:46 PM
To be fair folk complain all the time on here that going to Easter Road has been a tough task this season let alone to a semi in a different city - so not sure what fans were really expecting.

The expectation, mentality and quality of the player at the club has to improve - the also means the manager winning more games regularly - only that way will the crowds start to increase and believe again.

Seems the die hards / folk with blind loyalty are going to the semi final - many not even expecting a win.

Many other Hibs (die hards / casual / part time) fans who don't think it's worth the £ or hassle are clearly staying away. Call them soft / scared / fed up - probably a mixture but that's the reality and only the playing side / owners and manager can change this over time with results on the pitch getting everyone pulling in same direction.

*****bags

MKHIBEE
08-04-2022, 05:50 PM
To be fair folk complain all the time on here that going to Easter Road has been a tough task this season let alone to a semi in a different city - so not sure what fans were really expecting.

The expectation, mentality and quality of the player at the club has to improve - the also means the manager winning more games regularly - only that way will the crowds start to increase and believe again.

Seems the die hards / folk with blind loyalty are going to the semi final - many not even expecting a win.

Many other Hibs (die hards / casual / part time) fans who don't think it's worth the £ or hassle are clearly staying away. Call them soft / scared / fed up - probably a mixture but that's the reality and only the playing side / owners and manager can change this over time with results on the pitch getting everyone pulling in same direction.

I have decided I won’t be attending in protest at such fans https://www.hibs.net/blob:https://www.hibs.net/1277a3f6-5e39-44f9-9f4c-5b5abdcb9051https://www.hibs.net/blob:https://www.hibs.net/05d37625-9a0a-4e98-8b11-4df7fa62fdd1

18Craig75
08-04-2022, 05:58 PM
The irony is it’s probably a lot of the same fans not going this time that moaned about not getting an even split for the LC final.

May21/05/216
08-04-2022, 06:01 PM
I'm going and I don't care if hearts have more fans there and to the hibs fans calling other hibs fans Allisorts for not going get a life for all they know some may have a valid reason for not attending

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GreenCastle
08-04-2022, 06:04 PM
The good news is that the Hibs fans this do attend will be the hardcore and expect them to outsing the Hearts fans anyway.

It double the last semi final at Hampden against the huns and many fans 3rd visit to Hampden less than 6 months.

May21/05/216
08-04-2022, 06:35 PM
The good news is that the Hibs fans this do attend will be the hardcore and expect them to outsing the Hearts fans anyway.

It double the last semi final at Hampden against the huns and many fans 3rd visit to Hampden less than 6 months.I agree the game against rangers was great

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Leith Green
08-04-2022, 06:42 PM
As someone earlier posted .. Losing the semi final could have dire consequences for attendances at easter rd next season if uptake of tickets for this game is anything to go by