What's the chances of fans going back in September? [Archive] - Page 9

cabbageandribs1875

27-03-2021, 07:22 PM

Frazerbob

27-03-2021, 07:36 PM

5000 in Amsterdam Arena for Netherlands v Latvia today .

There is an experiment going on. Split the fans into different sections.

All had been tested before the game. One section has no social distancing and no masks. Another has masks and distancing and the others are different too.
They are going to retest everyone again in a few days to see if there are any patterns.

hibbysam

27-03-2021, 08:05 PM

There is an experiment going on. Split the fans into different sections.

All had been tested before the game. One section has no social distancing and no masks. Another has masks and distancing and the others are different too.
They are going to retest everyone again in a few days to see if there are any patterns.

You mean a proper test event? Rather than just fire 300 bodies into a 21k stadium and pretend it’s a test event.

Hibeesforever

27-03-2021, 08:55 PM

Conned in what way? Is Lockdown not working if admissions are going down? Do you think they would have gone down anyway?

I’m as bored as anyone but I don’t really get your way of thinking.
Basically, we should not still be in lockdown because the reason for it, ie high hospital admissions doesn't exist anymore...fans should be back in stadiums....

Andy74

27-03-2021, 08:58 PM

Basically, we should not still be in lockdown because the reason for it, ie high hospital admissions doesn't exist anymore...fans should be back in stadiums....

Covid exists though. Admissions are down because we’ve been locked down.

The vaccine will hopefully be the thing that changes it but you do realise that admissions didn’t just go down by themselves?

Stairway 2 7

27-03-2021, 09:01 PM

Dozens of gigs rescheduled for September in the last few days. Mcfly rescheduled whole uk tour to September in consultation with the 3 governments apparently. Even if limited at start of the season, not a chance will they have sold out 12,000 people indoors at the hydro in September and we can't have that outdoors then

bingo70

27-03-2021, 09:03 PM

Basically, we should not still be in lockdown because the reason for it, ie high hospital admissions doesn't exist anymore...fans should be back in stadiums....

I agree with the end result of what you were saying but not how you got there.

It’s not a con or a scam or whatever you were calling it but I agree completely with what you’re saying about getting people back in the stadiums ASAP.

I can accept it’s not going to happen now but the start of next season shouldn’t even be a debate. If the vaccine is working there’s no reason we shouldn’t be able to go back into stadiums. If the vaccine isn’t working we still need to get back into stadiums as people’s livelihoods and mental health needs mean we can’t continue to stay locked up, we need to get back to normal otherwise we’re just killing people slowly.

Moulin Yarns

27-03-2021, 09:03 PM

It was a one size fits all number previously, I don’t see anyway they could turn around and say to an open air music event you can have x amount, but football open air events can only have y amount, with y being lower than x.

I am confident that both trnsmt and Easter road will not be at capacity in July or August. And September is too far away to predict. But I can see the Scottish Government continuing on the cautious route. A percentage of capacity is much more likely than a full house when football is allowed crowds again

Moulin Yarns

27-03-2021, 09:06 PM

Just before Xmas. Didn’t matter the stadium size the numbers were exactly the same, whether Pittodrie or Ross county. There was no %, just a number that was the same for everyone.

That's just the test events. Nothing to do with capacities. 🙄

bingo70

27-03-2021, 09:06 PM

Covid exists though. Admissions are down because we’ve been locked down.

The vaccine will hopefully be the thing that changes it but you do realise that admissions didn’t just go down by themselves?

I think pre-vaccine lockdown was the only reason for admissions going down. Now I think vaccines are a major reason for the numbers to be going down dramatically.

We are in lockdown in name but I’d suggest a fairly big % of the population aren’t sticking to it strictly.

After Rangers won the league there were obviously scenes in Glasgow that everybody saw but you can bet there would have been thousands of other people throughout Glasgow breaking the rules at house parties, I don’t think there’s been any suggestion that the Glasgow hospitals haven’t been able to cope since then?

SteveHFC

27-03-2021, 09:17 PM

IberianHibernian

27-03-2021, 09:19 PM

There is an experiment going on. Split the fans into different sections.

All had been tested before the game. One section has no social distancing and no masks. Another has masks and distancing and the others are different too.
They are going to retest everyone again in a few days to see if there are any patterns.Ok . Didn`t realise all that and I know there was a test music event in Netherlands with 1500 fans last week . Fans didn`t seem to be wearing masks anywhere in stadium and at music thing BBC reporter mentioned masks were almost non - existent despite being supposedly obligatory .

tamig

27-03-2021, 09:23 PM

Ok . Didn`t realise all that and I know there was a test music event in Netherlands with 1500 fans last week . Fans didn`t seem to be wearing masks anywhere in stadium and at music thing BBC reporter mentioned masks were almost non - existent despite being supposedly obligatory .

Its all in the Guardian link I posted earlier tonight.

IberianHibernian

27-03-2021, 09:34 PM

Its all in the Guardian link I posted earlier tonight.Ok . Now read your link . Had read a couple of weeks ago about letting 5000 in today and about music event last week ( this weekend there was something similar in Barcelona with 5000 fans ) .

Frazerbob

27-03-2021, 09:47 PM

500 fans at the boxing in Gibraltar tonight, all of whom have had both vaccinations.

hibbysam

27-03-2021, 09:56 PM

That's just the test events. Nothing to do with capacities. 🙄

No it wasn’t. It was when Dingwall was in tier 1, same as Queen of the south etc. And the same as down in England, it was a set value depending what tier they were in, nothing to do with % of stadium size.

tamig

27-03-2021, 10:11 PM

No it wasn’t. It was when Dingwall was in tier 1, same as Queen of the south etc. And the same as down in England, it was a set value depending what tier they were in, nothing to do with % of stadium size.

Not correct. English teams were restricted to the lower of either 2000 fans or 50% of capacity. Can you post the Scottish guidelines where you say there was no mention of percentages? Bearing in mind the cautious approach taken here compared to down south, it seems illogical that we would be so relaxed in this area.

hibbysam

27-03-2021, 10:26 PM

Not correct. English teams were restricted to the lower of either 2000 fans or 50% of capacity. Can you post the Scottish guidelines where you say there was no mention of percentages? Bearing in mind the cautious approach taken here compared to down south, it seems illogical that we would be so relaxed in this area.

You can look them up, Ross county were allowed 300 fans, the same as Inverness.

I don’t think any English sides had less than 4000 seater stadiums, every single club in the league structure had the same number to work from, 2000 in tier 2 and 4000 in tier 1.

Good to see 500 back indoor at a small venue boxing show tonight as well due to vaccinations.

IberianHibernian

27-03-2021, 10:39 PM

500 fans at the boxing in Gibraltar tonight, all of whom have had both vaccinations.Is boxing in an outdoor venue like Victoria Stadium where Hibs played in 2013 ? I don`t think Gibraltar has any indoor venue for 500 people even in pre COVID times . I have read about folk in Gibraltar getting both vaccines so presume they all got second doses at least a month ago .

hibbysam

27-03-2021, 10:54 PM

Is boxing in an outdoor venue like Victoria Stadium where Hibs played in 2013 ? I don`t think Gibraltar has any indoor venue for 500 people even in pre COVID times . I have read about folk in Gibraltar getting both vaccines so presume they all got second doses at least a month ago .

Same venue but indoors I think. Gibraltar expecting stragglers to get their final dose this week.

HibeeHibernian4

28-03-2021, 10:25 AM

We need to get real here and hold our politicians to account..
We were told lockdown was needed because hospital admissions were nearing 2000...now they are at only 283, so why are we still in lockdown...the public are now being conned, we should be back in stadiums now....

Absolutely correct, people have completely lost sight of why we went into these lockdowns in the first place.

People are going to carry on dying, such is life. Now that we have reduced the excess deaths back down to the normal death rate level we should be opening up. That doesn’t mean get everything open straightaway tomorrow but there is no good reason for us not being back at Easter Road in August.

where'stheslope

28-03-2021, 10:55 AM

Absolutely correct, people have completely lost sight of why we went into these lockdowns in the first place.

People are going to carry on dying, such is life. Now that we have reduced the excess deaths back down to the normal death rate level we should be opening up. That doesn’t mean get everything open straightaway tomorrow but there is no good reason for us not being back at Easter Road in August.
I think the reason for the delay is because everyone is worried about "ME"!
If you open one part, everyone says what about "ME", then it causes unrest amongst those who think they are being repressed!
A slow approach is paramount to a successful opening of restrictions, any other way and we will be back to square one in no time!!!
Everyone wants to be back to normal as soon as possible, yet they would rather risk going backwards if we get another spike in infections!!!!

HibeeHibernian4

28-03-2021, 02:13 PM

I think the reason for the delay is because everyone is worried about "ME"!
If you open one part, everyone says what about "ME", then it causes unrest amongst those who think they are being repressed!
A slow approach is paramount to a successful opening of restrictions, any other way and we will be back to square one in no time!!!
Everyone wants to be back to normal as soon as possible, yet they would rather risk going backwards if we get another spike in infections!!!!

The reason for the delay (without wishing to bring politics in to this too much) is because statutory sick pay is still a pittance and lots of people are not going to self isolate and take time off work - even when they have symptoms. The economic conditions are deliberately too precarious to allow workers at the bottom of the pile to do so. This is why it's been nonsense to have a year of debating about whether four or five people is too many to sit in your garden. None of that matters when bosses are able to exploit loopholes and HSE are powerless to punish workplaces that have bent the rules.

Just look at the difference between this lockdown and the first. So much more is now allowed (in the name of "protecting the economy") but heaven forbid we meet up with our pals or enjoy any leisure activities. :rolleyes:

Betty Boop

28-03-2021, 05:47 PM

The reason for the delay (without wishing to bring politics in to this too much) is because statutory sick pay is still a pittance and lots of people are not going to self isolate and take time off work - even when they have symptoms. The economic conditions are deliberately too precarious to allow workers at the bottom of the pile to do so. This is why it's been nonsense to have a year of debating about whether four or five people is too many to sit in your garden. None of that matters when bosses are able to exploit loopholes and HSE are powerless to punish workplaces that have bent the rules.

Just look at the difference between this lockdown and the first. So much more is now allowed (in the name of "protecting the economy") but heaven forbid we meet up with our pals or enjoy any leisure activities. :rolleyes:

Nailed it. :top marks

HibeeHibernian4

28-03-2021, 06:08 PM

Nailed it. :top marks

The Observer very helpfully putting out an article today that illustrates exactly what I was trying to say!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/28/unsafe-workspaces-health-fears-grow-as-staff-get-set-for-the-big-return?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

AugustaHibs

29-03-2021, 03:28 PM

FA confirm that fans will attend the FA Cup semi finals on 17/18th April.

Surely we can get fans in before the end of the season?

The dalmeny

29-03-2021, 03:53 PM

FA confirm that fans will attend the FA Cup semi finals on 17/18th April.

Surely we can get fans in before the end of the season?

I'd be happy to get back and watch my kids football

SteveHFC

29-03-2021, 03:56 PM

FA confirm that fans will attend the FA Cup semi finals on 17/18th April.

Surely we can get fans in before the end of the season?

We'll be lucky if it will happen up here mate.

Sir David Gray

29-03-2021, 04:00 PM

FA confirm that fans will attend the FA Cup semi finals on 17/18th April.

Surely we can get fans in before the end of the season?

I'm not sure if the levels will look any different to last time but it was levels 0 & 1 for spectators to attend.

Small scale spectator events will hopefully resume on 17th May.

AugustaHibs

29-03-2021, 04:15 PM

I'm not sure if the levels will look any different to last time but it was levels 0 & 1 for spectators to attend.

Small scale spectator events will hopefully resume on 17th May.

Be very interesting to see what happens in USA over the next couple weeks. 16k full capacity in Jacksonville Florida for UFC in a couple weeks. I reckon the USA will crack on with lots of these full capacity events and if there’s no increase in hospitalisations/deaths I don’t see what reason scotgov have to postpone it any longer

jacomo

29-03-2021, 05:44 PM

Would be really unfair they let 12,000 fans into the hydro while 12,000 hibs fans can’t get into Easter Road.

And make them listen to McFly too. Brutal.

tamig

29-03-2021, 09:11 PM

Be very interesting to see what happens in USA over the next couple weeks. 16k full capacity in Jacksonville Florida for UFC in a couple weeks. I reckon the USA will crack on with lots of these full capacity events and if there’s no increase in hospitalisations/deaths I don’t see what reason scotgov have to postpone it any longer

It will be interesting to see what happens but I don’t think anyone should be holding the US up as a beacon of how to deal with the pandemic. Cases on the rise again and it seems like madness if these events go ahead with big crowds as planned if that pattern doesn’t change.

AugustaHibs

31-03-2021, 09:48 PM

The NFL is making plans to open its stadiums to full capacity for the 2021 season, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said Tuesday.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31167366/nfl-expects-full-stadiums-2021-season-commissioner-roger-goodell-says

Moulin Yarns

01-04-2021, 07:59 AM

AugustaHibs

01-04-2021, 09:04 AM

Good for them. However, this is Scotland, where (most) people are much more sensible.

By then 70% or so of the population will have been vaccinated. Pretty sensible imo.

Moulin Yarns

01-04-2021, 09:10 AM

By then 70% or so of the population will have been vaccinated. Pretty sensible imo.

Here we go again. The vaccine isn't a cure, people who have been vaccinated can still contract Covid-19 and spread it. The 30% are still more vulnerable and how do you control who gets to attend events? Covid passports? 2 classes of people?

AugustaHibs

01-04-2021, 09:12 AM

Here we go again. The vaccine isn't a cure, people who have been vaccinated can still contract Covid-19 and spread it. The 30% are still more vulnerable and how do you control who gets to attend events? Covid passports? 2 classes of people?

Studies have came out since then that shows it’s incredibly unlikely, almost impossible for vaccinated people to spread covid.

Moulin Yarns

01-04-2021, 09:22 AM

Studies have came out since then that shows it’s incredibly unlikely, almost impossible for vaccinated people to spread covid.

Check today's date 😉

CockneyRebel

01-04-2021, 10:43 AM

Good for them. However, this is Scotland, where (most) people are much more sensible.

On this morning's news France go into a new lockdown after massive infection increases leading to hospital bed crisis - schools and non essential shops closed down again.

AugustaHibs

01-04-2021, 10:49 AM

On this morning's news France go into a new lockdown after massive infection increases leading to hospital bed crisis - schools and non essential shops closed down again.

They’ve had a shocker with vaccinations. Difficult to compare us to France

Moulin Yarns

01-04-2021, 10:53 AM

They’ve had a shocker with vaccinations. Difficult to compare us to France

But you are happy to compare with the US of A.

As of March 28, 2021, 30+ million US cases of #COVID19 were reported to CDC. Cases are rising again. The 7-day average of new daily cases is over 60,000, over a 10% increase from the previous week. Help stop the spread & protect your community. More: https://t.co/gp6X4zTnBT. https://t.co/gY3m3QnqHf

Moulin Yarns

01-04-2021, 11:17 AM

Spfl season kicks off on 31st July, NFL season kicks off 9th September, for comparison.

CockneyRebel

01-04-2021, 11:56 AM

They’ve had a shocker with vaccinations. Difficult to compare us to France

Difficult to compare us to any other country but you seem to if it fits your agenda. It is, IMO, the people who can't be *rsed to follow simple guidelines and restrictions who are the main cause of the infection spreading and are limiting the impact that should be expected from lockdowns. I know what I have seen with my own eyes every single day since we were first asked to follow Gov/medical advice and I truly despair of the attitude of so many.

I am no goody goody Mother Theresa wannabe, just an average joe with a social conscience which appears to be lacking in so many folk at present.

AugustaHibs

01-04-2021, 12:06 PM

Difficult to compare us to any other country but you seem to if it fits your agenda. It is, IMO, the people who can't be *rsed to follow simple guidelines and restrictions who are the main cause of the infection spreading and are limiting the impact that should be expected from lockdowns. I know what I have seen with my own eyes every single day since we were first asked to follow Gov/medical advice and I truly despair of the attitude of so many.

I am no goody goody Mother Theresa wannabe, just an average joe with a social conscience which appears to be lacking in so many folk at present.

I’m confused as to what I’ve said that’s offended you so much. The most vulnerable will be fully vaccinated and by the start of the season every adult will have been offered one dose of the vaccine? Makes perfect sense to return to normal at that point no?

blackpoolhibs

01-04-2021, 12:19 PM

I’m confused as to what I’ve said that’s offended you so much. The most vulnerable will be fully vaccinated and by the start of the season every adult will have been offered one dose of the vaccine? Makes perfect sense to return to normal at that point no?

I sort of agree with you, apart from the return to normal. I'd say that is probably never going to happen again until the virus has been resolved worldwide. I dread our borders opening again, new variants will be mutating in those countries who are lagging way behind with vaccinating their population, and while we have done brilliantly with it, I'm still worried about the the future and will be until its beaten and treated like the flu. Maybe I'm just a bit too cautious, but that's my feeling on this.

Itsnoteasy

01-04-2021, 12:23 PM

Difficult to compare us to any other country but you seem to if it fits your agenda. It is, IMO, the people who can't be *rsed to follow simple guidelines and restrictions who are the main cause of the infection spreading and are limiting the impact that should be expected from lockdowns. I know what I have seen with my own eyes every single day since we were first asked to follow Gov/medical advice and I truly despair of the attitude of so many.

I am no goody goody Mother Theresa wannabe, just an average joe with a social conscience which appears to be lacking in so many folk at present.

Spot on, apart from 1st 2 sentences as I do not know what the agenda is.

Moulin Yarns

01-04-2021, 12:38 PM

AugustaHibs

01-04-2021, 12:41 PM

At least your last word was right. 😉

I understand the keeping the borders shut. I understand that’s needed, but other than that I believe we can

CockneyRebel

01-04-2021, 12:48 PM

I’m confused as to what I’ve said that’s offended you so much. The most vulnerable will be fully vaccinated and by the start of the season every adult will have been offered one dose of the vaccine? Makes perfect sense to return to normal at that point no?

Pretty much all you have posted on this thread :greengrin - no, not offended as such as everything is an opinion. Maybe I over react here and there but my post you refer to is how I feel in general over where we are compared to where we could be and to how the problems and the way forward are over simplified just because some folk are impatient to return to normal life. We have a common enemy which I believe to be underestimated and we have to be sure of each step we take.

Moulin Yarns

01-04-2021, 12:58 PM

I understand the keeping the borders shut. I understand that’s needed, but other than that I believe we can

But the borders aren't shut. I've seen 3 commercial airlines today which will be heading across the North Atlantic.

AugustaHibs

01-04-2021, 01:00 PM

But the borders aren't shut. I've seen 3 commercial airlines today which will be heading across the North Atlantic.

Well I would be all for ****ting them if it meant a normal life at home

Edit: shutting them, not sure why my phone replaced the U with an I...

Moulin Yarns

01-04-2021, 01:04 PM

Well I would be all for ****ting them if it meant a normal life at home

Edit: shutting them, not sure why my phone replaced the U with an I...

That's all very well, but 2019 normal and 2021 normal are 2 different things.

bingo70

01-04-2021, 01:24 PM

I sort of agree with you, apart from the return to normal. I'd say that is probably never going to happen again until the virus has been resolved worldwide. I dread our borders opening again, new variants will be mutating in those countries who are lagging way behind with vaccinating their population, and while we have done brilliantly with it, I'm still worried about the the future and will be until its beaten and treated like the flu. Maybe I'm just a bit too cautious, but that's my feeling on this.

It’s never going to completely disappear and I suspect it will always kill people unfortunately in the same way the flu kills people.

There was a bit on the news last night about potentially thousands of people missing out on cancer check ups or diagnosis as they didn’t want to go to the doctors. There’s the effect on people’s mental health, there’s the effect on people’s livelihoods and there’s the effects it’s having on kids losing their childhoods including their education and losing life experiences we all benefited from (such as full football stadiums).

For everyone that wants to remain over cautious once we’ve been vaccinated, imo they are ignoring the other factors. Once the vulnerable are vaccinated we should be opening up, the idea that we won’t completely open up when everyone is vaccinated is absolutely nuts to me.

I do accept international travel is an exception to that, only because it wouldn’t be fair on those countries though. Once they’re all vaccinated we should be up and running to go to those countries too.

AugustaHibs

01-04-2021, 01:31 PM

It’s never going to completely disappear and I suspect it will always kill people unfortunately in the same way the flu kills people.

There was a bit on the news last night about potentially thousands of people missing out on cancer check ups or diagnosis as they didn’t want to go to the doctors. There’s the effect on people’s mental health, there’s the effect on people’s livelihoods and there’s the effects it’s having on kids losing their childhoods including their education and losing life experiences we all benefited from (such as full football stadiums).

For everyone that wants to remain over cautious once we’ve been vaccinated, imo they are ignoring the other factors. Once the vulnerable are vaccinated we should be opening up, the idea that we won’t completely open up when everyone is vaccinated is absolutely nuts to me.

I do accept international travel is an exception to that, only because it wouldn’t be fair on those countries though. Once they’re all vaccinated we should be up and running to go to those countries too.

The problem is that people are becoming such tunnel visioned that the only thing that is affecting people is them catching covid, completely disregarding every other aspect of well-being

bingo70

01-04-2021, 01:48 PM

PatHead

01-04-2021, 02:05 PM

BBC report that Wales hope to allow test events from May. Very small numbers though.

bingo70

01-04-2021, 02:13 PM

BBC report that Wales hope to allow test events from May. Very small numbers though.

Wonder if they’ll actually test anything and use the data from it or if they’ll just call it a test event to shut people up for a bit and make it look like progress is being made.

danhibees1875

01-04-2021, 02:20 PM

The problem is that people are becoming such tunnel visioned that the only thing that is affecting people is them catching covid, completely disregarding every other aspect of well-being

Are they though? I've not witnessed that, and certainly not on any of the threads on here.

I think people would be keen to see as many restrictions as possible lifted as soon as possible - but done safely and in due course with thought and consideration to the risks involved.

I don't think the label of tunnel-visioned to the point of disregarding all other aspects would be a fair label to place on anyone on here.

hhibs

01-04-2021, 03:35 PM

Pretty much all you have posted on this thread :greengrin - no, not offended as such as everything is an opinion. Maybe I over react here and there but my post you refer to is how I feel in general over where we are compared to where we could be and to how the problems and the way forward are over simplified just because some folk are impatient to return to normal life. We have a common enemy which I believe to be underestimated and we have to be sure of each step we take.

All too true.

CockneyRebel

01-04-2021, 05:15 PM

Spot on, apart from 1st 2 sentences as I do not know what the agenda is.

I was referring to the agenda of the reckless, folk who have had enough of restrictions and who are looking for the quickest way out regardless of "collateral casualties".
I don't advocate caution to the nth degree, just a bit of common sense using the infection/death rate as a guide to each "next step".

Itsnoteasy

01-04-2021, 05:57 PM

DIXIHIBS

01-04-2021, 06:52 PM

Four thousand local council, NHS, and teaching staff will be in the crowd at Wembley when Leicester City play Southampton in their first FA Cup semi-final for 39 years.

Would you go to a semi final if non of your teams were playing.

If you did go who would you support.

I wouldn't go if my team was not involved.

Me and a crowd of mates(football team...all hibbies) won an all expenses trip to hampden for a huns v aberdeen league cup final back in the eighties. Quite enjoyed not really caring who won (as long as it wasnt the huns...but they did win). Good day out but hard to get excited when its not your own team.

Kato

01-04-2021, 07:06 PM

Me and a crowd of mates(football team...all hibbies) won an all expenses trip to hampden for a huns v aberdeen league cup final back in the eighties. Quite enjoyed not really caring who won (as long as it wasnt the huns...but they did win). Good day out but hard to get excited when its not your own team.

I went to 1988 Final with Celtic and Dundee Utd and the "family" final against Motherwell with my Arab supporting pal. Lovely days out and I didn't give a toss who won.

A chance to see Thatcher getting telt tae "get tae" as well.

PatHead

02-04-2021, 10:46 PM

BBC reporting that fans could be back in June in Scotland

SteveHFC

02-04-2021, 11:06 PM

BBC reporting that fans could be back in June in Scotland

Talk of over 3200 Scotland fans at Wembley. :hyper

PatHead

02-04-2021, 11:16 PM

Talk of over 3200 Scotland fans at Wembley. :hyper

Does that mean 50,000 will travel down in the hope of a ticket?

Bristolhibby

05-04-2021, 07:17 AM

Talk of over 3200 Scotland fans at Wembley. :hyper

That’s a rather precisely small number. Being a neutral venue I’d have expected Scotland to have half of the expected total capacity.

J

Since452

05-04-2021, 07:36 AM

Talk of over 3200 Scotland fans at Wembley. :hyper

How many England fans will there be?

Sir David Gray

05-04-2021, 07:41 AM

How many England fans will there be?

I think they're hoping to have 20,000 fans in for the game.

davhibby

22-06-2021, 02:56 PM

GreenCastle

22-06-2021, 03:36 PM

No outdoor social distancing from 19th July and none indoors or outdoors from the 9th of August. Surely paves the way for full houses early this season. Hopefully we can at least get all our ST holders in for the ECL tie

I would expect fans at Arsenal game - minimum 250 - maximum around 1000?

Then from 19th - 2000 upwards.

Come 9th August when restrictions ease - it could see Livi game being a near full stadium.

The Ross County game before..not sure but hopefully they find a solution and let fans know sooner rather than later.

No reason why those double vaccinated or even single vaccinated shouldn’t be able to attend and sit outdoors to watch football.

bingo70

22-06-2021, 03:38 PM

No outdoor social distancing from 19th July and none indoors or outdoors from the 9th of August. Surely paves the way for full houses early this season. Hopefully we can at least get all our ST holders in for the ECL tie

Believe that when i see it.

Lot of ***** to shut us up for a couple of months.

There’ll be some new variant of concern found by then.

Saw some professor saying that it’s likely there’ll be more lockdowns from October.

GreenCastle

22-06-2021, 03:43 PM

Believe that when i see it.

Lot of ***** to shut us up for a couple of months.

There’ll be some new variant of concern found by then.

Saw some professor saying that it’s likely there’ll be more lockdowns from October.

I doubt there will be anymore lockdowns. They should be more worried about those not getting other treatments for things like cancer.

The media love a scare story and have brainwashed many folk who are now scared to leave their homes.

Of course new variants will exist. They should start looking at ways of improving the NHS and valuing their staff more so if there is ever another pandemic they are better prepared.

PatHead

22-06-2021, 03:43 PM

Article on BBC saying 2000 fans to be allowed in

tamig

22-06-2021, 05:34 PM

Article on BBC saying 2000 fans to be allowed in

To what game?

Billy Whizz

22-06-2021, 05:35 PM

To what game?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57571009

Sir David Gray

22-06-2021, 05:52 PM

Article on BBC saying 2000 fans to be allowed in

That's just in line with the move to level 0.

Clubs can apply to the appropriate council/Scottish Government for more fans.

scoopyboy

23-06-2021, 10:38 AM

Hibs are looking to get 5000 in for the Arsenal game.

Sir David Gray

23-06-2021, 10:43 AM

Hibs are looking to get 5000 in for the Arsenal game.

I personally that will prove to be a bit ambitious, particularly with current infection levels in Edinburgh.

I hope I'm proved wrong of course but I would expect maybe 2-3,000 to be a bit more likely.

scoopyboy

23-06-2021, 11:04 AM

I personally that will prove to be a bit ambitious, particularly with current infection levels in Edinburgh.

I hope I'm proved wrong of course but I would expect maybe 2-3,000 to be a bit more likely.

I just know that Hibs have asked for 5,000. No away fans.

I'm guessing they are going by 25% capacity, same as Hampden for Euros.

Sir David Gray

23-06-2021, 12:07 PM

I just know that Hibs have asked for 5,000. No away fans.

I'm guessing they are going by 25% capacity, same as Hampden for Euros.

Yes that's correct I also read a couple of weeks ago that they would approach the Scottish Government for up to 7,500 to attend if Edinburgh was moved to level 1 ahead of the game which obviously won't now happen.

ABZHFC

23-06-2021, 04:42 PM

Hibs are looking to get 5000 in for the Arsenal game.

Pleasantly surprised at this given its a friendly and we'll still be under level 2 restrictions, but all clubs should be out demanding full stadiums from August the 9th, no ifs, no buts

PatHead

27-06-2021, 11:16 AM

Looks like a return in August!!!!!

BoomtownHibees

27-06-2021, 11:16 AM

Full stadiums by August “if all goes to plan” according to Jason Leitch

danhibees1875

27-06-2021, 11:24 AM

Looks like a return in August!!!!!

The thread title was a bit pessimistic then - a month early! :wink:

Moulin Yarns

27-06-2021, 11:26 AM

Pleasantly surprised at this given its a friendly and we'll still be under level 2 restrictions, but all clubs should be out demanding full stadiums from August the 9th, no ifs, no buts

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57629123

SteveHFC

27-06-2021, 11:30 AM

Full stadiums by August “if all goes to plan” according to Jason Leitch

:hyper

calumhibee1

27-06-2021, 11:36 AM

I would be absolutely stunned if that goes ahead but here’s hoping!

RyeSloan

27-06-2021, 11:38 AM

Full stadiums by August “if all goes to plan” according to Jason Leitch

Oh I soooo hope this is possible.

And 2 days earlier if possible!

A full stadium is gonna be superb and really can’t wait.

And of course we have the drum and the rest of the crew back in the East…

Sir David Gray

27-06-2021, 11:43 AM

He said the same thing a year ago I'll believe it when I see it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/football/53034794.amp

Peevemor

27-06-2021, 11:46 AM

He said the same thing a year ago I'll believe it when I see it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/football/53034794.ampDid he say anything about spectators a year ago?

660

27-06-2021, 11:46 AM

He said the same thing a year ago I'll believe it when I see it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/football/53034794.amp

Uhhhh hibs played their first premiership game on the 1st August last season. He couldn’t have been more accurate.

Ringothedog

27-06-2021, 11:51 AM

He said the same thing a year ago I'll believe it when I see it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/football/53034794.amp

That article appears to have nothing to do with crowds, it was about football restarting

overdrive

27-06-2021, 11:53 AM

I tend to take anything Leitch says with a pinch of salt. He’s a bit of a slaver.

BoomtownHibees

27-06-2021, 12:05 PM

He said the same thing a year ago I'll believe it when I see it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/football/53034794.amp

Not convinced it will happen in August but this article is nothing to do with fans returning

PatHead

27-06-2021, 12:08 PM

First league game at home would be Livingston on 28th.

Ringothedog

27-06-2021, 12:16 PM

I tend to take anything Leitch says with a pinch of salt. He’s a bit of a slaver.

I would take what he says a lot more seriously than some people’s opinions on here.

CMurdoch

27-06-2021, 12:19 PM

First league game at home would be Livingston on 28th.

That buys us another couple of weeks and would see us miss only our 1st home league game on the 7th.
I also note our first league game away at Motherwell on the 1st August is live on Sky.
Fingers crossed.
Even 60% capacity would get all our season ticket holders who want to attend in if away supporters are not present

PatHead

27-06-2021, 12:19 PM

I would take what he says a lot more seriously than some people’s opinions on here.

Don't know. We have "experts" on everything here

Sir David Gray

27-06-2021, 12:21 PM

660

27-06-2021, 12:31 PM

Onion

27-06-2021, 12:34 PM

I would be absolutely stunned if that goes ahead but here’s hoping!

Poor politicians. Getting tough for them to stop sports events going ahead with fans - especially outdoors. The various "test events" have shown minimal if any infection, England are opening up to capacity crowds at Wimbledon, Silverstone and huge crowds at Wembley for the Euros. In Sept, the only question should be if there will be any distancing, testing and facemasks.

Geo_1875

27-06-2021, 12:36 PM

I tend to take anything Leitch says with a pinch of salt. He’s a bit of a slaver.

Is that Professor Jason Andrew Leitch BDS, FDS RCS, FDS RCPS, DDS, MPH, FRCS, CBE the National Clinical Director of the Scottish Government? Or are you meaning someone else?

overdrive

27-06-2021, 12:46 PM

Is that Professor Jason Andrew Leitch BDS, FDS RCS, FDS RCPS, DDS, MPH, FRCS, CBE the National Clinical Director of the Scottish Government? Or are you meaning someone else?

I’m meaning him. He quite often says stuff on these football radio shows that ends up being total nonsense.

Ringothedog

27-06-2021, 12:54 PM

Don't know. We have "experts" on everything here

😂

3pm

27-06-2021, 01:52 PM

Great news, fingers crossed.

Col2

27-06-2021, 02:56 PM

https://news.stv.tv/scotland/football-stadiums-could-have-full-crowds-from-august-10

Here’s an article about Leitchs latest comments. He’s saying that once restrictions are removed, fans will be allowed back. A lot of people doubted that would be the case so good news.

I am fully expecting a retraction or watered down view on this next week. Not a hope in hell teams will be allowed full crowds in 6 weeks. I would bet large scale outdoor events will have some level of control over them for the rest of the year. My bet was 1/3 re so say 7k for us until all adults double jabbed (end of sept). What do I know? I hope JL is correct, he has been wrong more than once recently.....

CallumLaidlaw

27-06-2021, 03:05 PM

I am fully expecting a retraction or watered down view on this next week. Not a hope in hell teams will be allowed full crowds in 6 weeks. I would bet large scale outdoor events will have some level of control over them for the rest of the year. My bet was 1/3 re so say 7k for us until all adults double jabbed (end of sept). What do I know? I hope JL is correct, he has been wrong more than once recently.....

Why tho? Restrictions are being lifted on that date. You can’t say that then say “oh but not on this” as that means restrictions still remain.

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PatHead

27-06-2021, 03:16 PM

Why tho? Restrictions are being lifted on that date. You can’t say that then say “oh but not on this” as that means restrictions still remain.

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Think he said if certain levels were achieved. Edinburgh is as far away as possible just now.
If we get back to 50 per 100,000 we should be fine I think.

Billy Whizz

27-06-2021, 04:28 PM

First league game at home would be Livingston on 28th.

Hope we get a home game in the League cup, games due to be played 14/15 August

ancient hibee

27-06-2021, 04:51 PM

Why tho? Restrictions are being lifted on that date. You can’t say that then say “oh but not on this” as that means restrictions still remain.

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Having won the vote at Holyrood to extend the emergency controls for another 15 months they can actually do whatever they want-and will do.

Just Alf

27-06-2021, 05:08 PM

Having won the vote at Holyrood to extend the emergency controls for another 15 months they can actually do whatever they want-and will do.Agreed, it's all down to the new variant and how well we all follow the restrictions to combat it, ... too many of us who don't, resulting in the numbers going the wrong direction = bad news for us all

I will add I was a 'bad boy' at a wedding yesterday in Fife, really really really enjoyed the live band, 1st time in ages... there was too much hugging, kissing etc now I'm totally regretting it (my daughter totally enjoyed herself for 1st time in over a year which is my only positive justification)

davhibby

27-06-2021, 05:11 PM

I am fully expecting a retraction or watered down view on this next week. Not a hope in hell teams will be allowed full crowds in 6 weeks. I would bet large scale outdoor events will have some level of control over them for the rest of the year. My bet was 1/3 re so say 7k for us until all adults double jabbed (end of sept). What do I know? I hope JL is correct, he has been wrong more than once recently.....

We should be looking at at least 50% from the 19th of July when outdoor social distancing is ditched. Football is played in outdoor stadia where it’s been shown there is less risk, should be no reason for any restrictions past the 9th of August

snedzuk

27-06-2021, 06:14 PM

Agreed, it's all down to the new variant and how well we all follow the restrictions to combat it, ... too many of us who don't, resulting in the numbers going the wrong direction = bad news for us all

I will add I was a 'bad boy' at a wedding yesterday in Fife, really really really enjoyed the live band, 1st time in ages... there was too much hugging, kissing etc now I'm totally regretting it (my daughter totally enjoyed herself for 1st time in over a year which is my only positive justification)

Are you Matt Hancock?

Moulin Yarns

27-06-2021, 07:15 PM

Having won the vote at Holyrood to extend the emergency controls for another 15 months they can actually do whatever they want-and will do.

Presumably you mean the 6 months extension of emergency measures!!!!!

https://www.gov.scot/news/coronavirus-bill-introduced/

660

27-06-2021, 07:26 PM

ancient hibee

27-06-2021, 08:13 PM

U
Presumably you mean the 6 months extension of emergency measures!!!!!

https://www.gov.scot/news/coronavirus-bill-introduced/

i understand it contains clauses allowing a longer extension.

ahibby

27-06-2021, 09:11 PM

Opinion based on the probability of many college students going back ti classroom learning in September is that we will see fans back then too. Perhaps at just slightly under fifty percent capacity.

SteveHFC

27-06-2021, 11:23 PM

Opinion based on the probability of many college students going back ti classroom learning in September is that we will see fans back then too. Perhaps at just slightly under fifty percent capacity.

I reckon the 9th of August date of lifting restrictions will be extended to the start of September to let all adults get the 2nd doses. Then we will see full capacity back at the football.

ahibby

28-06-2021, 11:12 AM

I reckon the 9th of August date of lifting restrictions will be extended to the start of September to let all adults get the 2nd doses. Then we will see full capacity back at the football.

Hopefully, but I factored in two elements. One, will Edinburgh be hotspot free by then and will there be fan confidence or would they prefer a ST only attendance initially spread over four stands. I know which I would prefer but I'm super cautious. With reports of hospitalisation going on even for those with two vaccinations, there might have to be some restrictions going forward.

Col2

28-06-2021, 11:25 AM

A hot take based on nothing. Thanks for this.

Just sharing opinion. You don’t need to read it. But it is a forum for opinions.

hibbysam

28-06-2021, 11:29 AM

Hopefully, but I factored in two elements. One, will Edinburgh be hotspot free by then and will there be fan confidence or would they prefer a ST only attendance initially spread over four stands. I know which I would prefer but I'm super cautious. With reports of hospitalisation going on even for those with two vaccinations, there might have to be some restrictions going forward.

80% efficiency rate for 1 dose and 96% for 2 doses is the figures I’m seeing released today, plus I read the other day, the last time we had this amount of daily cases there were over 800 deaths that day, this time it’s down at 20 odd. The vaccine is clearly working.

He's here!

28-06-2021, 11:32 AM

Apologies folks there was another comment about pencilling in the return of fans last year.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5763492/scotland-football-games-fans-return-october/amp/

I knew the 'pencil in' comment rang a bell.

Personally I think an August return for full crowds is unlikely. I suspect the delta variant is going to see case numbers continue to climb over the summer. There are still a lot of events being cancelled (frustratingly for me these include kids' summer holiday clubs) and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see restricted crowds for the rest of the year.

Hope to be proved wrong obviously.

Crunchie

28-06-2021, 11:35 AM

I am fully expecting a retraction or watered down view on this next week. Not a hope in hell teams will be allowed full crowds in 6 weeks. I would bet large scale outdoor events will have some level of control over them for the rest of the year. My bet was 1/3 re so say 7k for us until all adults double jabbed (end of sept). What do I know? I hope JL is correct, he has been wrong more than once recently.....

I hope you're wrong but I'm inclined to agree with you.

Just Alf

28-06-2021, 11:45 AM

I knew the 'pencil in' comment rang a bell.

Personally I think an August return for full crowds is unlikely. I suspect the delta variant is going to see case numbers continue to climb over the summer. There are still a lot of events being cancelled (frustratingly for me these include kids' summer holiday clubs) and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see restricted crowds for the rest of the year.

Hope to be proved wrong obviously.Pretty much agree with all that, we so, so need the vaccination program to be completed, a few weeks after that we'll really know where we're at with all this.

PatHead

28-06-2021, 11:56 AM

I knew the 'pencil in' comment rang a bell.

Personally I think an August return for full crowds is unlikely. I suspect the delta variant is going to see case numbers continue to climb over the summer. There are still a lot of events being cancelled (frustratingly for me these include kids' summer holiday clubs) and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see restricted crowds for the rest of the year.

Hope to be proved wrong obviously.

With any luck, the schools being closed will see a rapid decline in the numbers. This could help get numbers back on track.

ahibby

28-06-2021, 02:15 PM

80% efficiency rate for 1 dose and 96% for 2 doses is the figures I’m seeing released today, plus I read the other day, the last time we had this amount of daily cases there were over 800 deaths that day, this time it’s down at 20 odd. The vaccine is clearly working.

Stats are stats but there are folk in hospital who have had both vaccines and when that is the case hospitals ability to function as what was normal prior to covid is reduced. We will have to wait and see exactly the extent of hospital admissions following second vaccines, and that is during a period of restricted circulation. They will have to calculate what that would translate into following lifting restrictions, different environments completely.

Ronniekirk

28-06-2021, 02:47 PM

Hospital figures and cases in intensive care both rising all be it by small numbers in comparison to previously
But by 9 th August hopefully things will have stabilised at rates that governments feel are acceptable As it really is time to start living normally again for those that want to
40 thousand at Wembley for next England game .Full house for Wimbledon final .10thousand at Donnington Festival no masks no social distancing
They are saying no events so far have caused any concern
Admissions to A and E are up with people presenting with a summer cold ,and lots of younger girls getting sent fir scans of lump under arm caused by Pfizer jab ,but g p s need to send them to hospital just in case ( I know the latter as my daughter had to go snd was fine ) But Nurses saying they are inundated
They are predicting a bad flu season in winter so it’s stuff like that that could still cause problems for N H S

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heidtheba

28-06-2021, 05:24 PM

Stats are stats but there are folk in hospital who have had both vaccines and when that is the case hospitals ability to function as what was normal prior to covid is reduced. We will have to wait and see exactly the extent of hospital admissions following second vaccines, and that is during a period of restricted circulation. They will have to calculate what that would translate into following lifting restrictions, different environments completely.

Having recently come out of the Regional Infections Diseases Unit for COVID myself, I really hope the double vaccine works as well as possible, if for no other reason than the staff deserve to feel as protected as possible. I was in awe of them, their level of care was first rate and to think they did this last year when there was no vaccine...it's very humbling.

JXM73

30-06-2021, 11:33 AM

Thats that ****ed then, well done.

No way football fans be in grounds soon...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57667163

AugustaHibs

30-06-2021, 11:34 AM

Thats that ****ed then, well done.

No way football fans be in grounds soon...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57667163

Why would this affect it? You could argue the fact that the reason this has happened is that people aren’t in grounds. Much safer sitting in the stadium than sitting in a pub

JXM73

30-06-2021, 11:37 AM

Why would this affect it? You could argue the fact that the reason this has happened is that people aren’t in grounds. Much safer sitting in the stadium than sitting in a pub

Hope so, just the timing (day after last game at Hampden) and talk of fans back next month, we fans are an easy target

Sir David Gray

30-06-2021, 12:26 PM

Thats that ****ed then, well done.

No way football fans be in grounds soon...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57667163

If social distancing measures are removed on 9th August, which Sturgeon said only yesterday we remain on track to achieve, I don't see why this news should affect the planned return of supporters.

SteveHFC

30-06-2021, 12:29 PM

If social distancing measures are removed on 9th August, which Sturgeon said only yesterday we remain on track to achieve, I don't see why this news should affect the planned return of supporters.

Spot on.

WhileTheChief..

30-06-2021, 12:32 PM

Just Alf

30-06-2021, 02:34 PM

When this all started it was to save lives and protect the NHS.

We were warned of a shortage of beds and ventilators and the NHS being on the brink of collapse.

None of that applies anymore so why the hell are we still dicking around with this?

When did it change to ‘we want to eradicate COVID from the country’?

Get things open and let us live our lives, just as Hancock has been doing all year.

I think that's what the vaccine roll out is all about.... once we're near as dam completed then things open much more. That seems to be what the 4 nations are all striving for.

Just be glad we're not in a country where a slow roll out, even vaccine resistance is going to extend lockdown periods... see Aus as a case in point.

Moulin Yarns

30-06-2021, 04:00 PM

When this all started it was to save lives and protect the NHS.

We were warned of a shortage of beds and ventilators and the NHS being on the brink of collapse.

None of that applies anymore so why the hell are we still dicking around with this?

When did it change to ‘we want to eradicate COVID from the country’?

Get things open and let us live our lives, just as Hancock has been doing all year.

Ahem!!

There might not be a shortage of beds, but staff self isolating is still a problem

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-57663793

WhileTheChief..

30-06-2021, 04:09 PM

Yeah, but the narrative has totally changed.

I've not heard a single politician saying 'protect the NHS' for months. That was the whole point of lockdown in the first place.

Ronniekirk

01-07-2021, 02:36 PM

When this all started it was to save lives and protect the NHS.

We were warned of a shortage of beds and ventilators and the NHS being on the brink of collapse.

None of that applies anymore so why the hell are we still dicking around with this?

When did it change to ‘we want to eradicate COVID from the country’?

Get things open and let us live our lives, just as Hancock has been doing all year.

There is an acceptance we can’t eradicate it and we now need to learn to live with it
So let’s get on with that

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ABZHFC

01-07-2021, 03:05 PM

Thats that ****ed then, well done.

No way football fans be in grounds soon...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57667163

What a stupid post

BlackSheep

02-07-2021, 08:57 AM

What a stupid post

Not sure how this is a stupid post? 4200 cases yesterday alone… I’d wager that another lockdown may be imminent, perhaps not as strict as before but things like large gatherings will be stopped as soon as they can with the rise in cases.

It’s down to those having had 1 or even 2 jabs thinking they’re now invincible and spreading it, the younger generations, many of whom have not had even a single dose, are spreading this Delta variant like wildfire!

Ronniekirk

02-07-2021, 08:17 PM

Not sure how this is a stupid post? 4200 cases yesterday alone… I’d wager that another lockdown may be imminent, perhaps not as strict as before but things like large gatherings will be stopped as soon as they can with the rise in cases.

It’s down to those having had 1 or even 2 jabs thinking they’re now invincible and spreading it, the younger generations, many of whom have not had even a single dose, are spreading this Delta variant like wildfire!

But the new mantra is cases increasing isn’t such a concern as it’s not leading to big increases in hospitalisation and people are not getting as ill
Hence all the talk about we now need to learn to live with the virus

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AugustaHibs

02-07-2021, 08:34 PM

Not sure how this is a stupid post? 4200 cases yesterday alone… I’d wager that another lockdown may be imminent, perhaps not as strict as before but things like large gatherings will be stopped as soon as they can with the rise in cases.

It’s down to those having had 1 or even 2 jabs thinking they’re now invincible and spreading it, the younger generations, many of whom have not had even a single dose, are spreading this Delta variant like wildfire!

Not happening. Worrying about cases creates a casedemic. Let’s worry about folk dying and ending up in hospital and not fully vaccinated people essentially having the sniffles

blackpoolhibs

03-07-2021, 10:12 AM

Not happening. Worrying about cases creates a casedemic. Let’s worry about folk dying and ending up in hospital and not fully vaccinated people essentially having the sniffles

This is where i am now, unless there is a new strain that evolves into something the vaccines wont touch, we now need to get on with life.

Hospitals are not full of covid cases now, and that was the reason we shut everything down, they are not so lets crack on.

This virus is not going away, we have to learn to live with it.

GreenCastle

03-07-2021, 04:24 PM

This is where i am now, unless there is a new strain that evolves into something the vaccines wont touch, we now need to get on with life.

Hospitals are not full of covid cases now, and that was the reason we shut everything down, they are not so lets crack on.

This virus is not going away, we have to learn to live with it.

Yup - folk should be worried about other illnesses being forgotten about and waiting times for other life threading conditions. There has to be a balance.

Anyway seems Hearts being told 2000 for league cup games and then full stadiums by 9th August when social distancing is eased.

High possibility Hearts v Hibs in early September will be a full stadium.

Billy Whizz

03-07-2021, 04:29 PM

Yup - folk should be worried about other illnesses being forgotten about and waiting times for other life threading conditions. There has to be a balance.

Anyway seems Hearts being told 2000 for league cup games and then full stadiums by 9th August when social distancing is eased.

High possibility Hearts v Hibs in early September will be a full stadium.

Think Hearts are hoping to have 4,000 fans for the opening game v Celtic, with no away fans permitted

marinello59

03-07-2021, 06:23 PM

Yup - folk should be worried about other illnesses being forgotten about and waiting times for other life threading conditions. There has to be a balance.

Anyway seems Hearts being told 2000 for league cup games and then full stadiums by 9th August when social distancing is eased.

High possibility Hearts v Hibs in early September will be a full stadium.

If that 2000 figure is correct then there is no chance of 5000 v Arsenal then.

Moulin Yarns

03-07-2021, 07:57 PM

If that 2000 figure is correct then there is no chance of 5000 v Arsenal then.

Hearts ceo mentioned it for the league Cup games on Sportsound. Agreed between the clubs in the group and home fans only. Because of the size of the grounds.

O'Rourke3

04-07-2021, 11:04 AM

This is where i am now, unless there is a new strain that evolves into something the vaccines wont touch, we now need to get on with life.

Hospitals are not full of covid cases now, and that was the reason we shut everything down, they are not so lets crack on.

This virus is not going away, we have to learn to live with it.The new strain will only mutate from more people getting it now and potentially meaning vaccines existing now are bypassed. Just getting on with it and letting folks spread it is very shortsighted. Vaccination numbers have to be higher in all age groups.

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Just Alf

04-07-2021, 11:10 AM

The new strain will only mutate from more people getting it now and potentially meaning vaccines existing now are bypassed. Just getting on with it and letting folks spread it is very shortsighted. Vaccination numbers have to be higher in all age groups.

Sent from my SM-G965F using TapatalkIt's a bit like playing dice... with 12 dice.

The chances if getting 12 6's is low, the more times you throw them the more chance you get if getting the 12 match.

We really need to be minimising the number of 'throws' the virus is given until we've vaxxed everyone that can be, once at that point it'll be in the lap of the gods I guess.

Edit in my dice scenario a match of 10 or 11 could be something worse than we have now, a 12 could well be one we struggled to deal with at all.

blackpoolhibs

04-07-2021, 11:12 AM

Onion

04-07-2021, 11:31 AM

Thats that ****ed then, well done.

No way football fans be in grounds soon...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57667163

Suspect most infection spread was during group travel and in pubs. Spending 20 hours in a bus with a bunch of strangers, with no covid protocols is a bit mad. None of that will be needed for games restricted to home fans only, and who are local.

Bristolhibby

04-07-2021, 11:45 AM

Why would this affect it? You could argue the fact that the reason this has happened is that people aren’t in grounds. Much safer sitting in the stadium than sitting in a pub

Indeed, technically everyone in Wembley tested negative or had a double dose.

J

The dalmeny

04-07-2021, 11:51 AM

Bristolhibby

04-07-2021, 11:57 AM

Yup - folk should be worried about other illnesses being forgotten about and waiting times for other life threading conditions. There has to be a balance.

Anyway seems Hearts being told 2000 for league cup games and then full stadiums by 9th August when social distancing is eased.

High possibility Hearts v Hibs in early September will be a full stadium.

Is that the case? Been trying to figure out what the deal is with fans. Obviously I’m down here in England. If it’s full end to regulations then that means full houses at the football? No?

J

Bristolhibby

04-07-2021, 12:03 PM

Suspect most infection spread was during group travel and in pubs. Spending 20 hours in a bus with a bunch of strangers, with no covid protocols is a bit mad. None of that will be needed for games restricted to home fans only, and who are local.

Why would there be such restrictions post August 9th?

Game on isn’t it? Full house.

J

O'Rourke3

04-07-2021, 12:39 PM

Ok, then lets all sit indoors until this virus is gone, as there is no other way to sort it. It will always be around unless we vaccinate everyone, and do you really believe thats going to happen?I never said stay indoors. I do have an issue of nothing changing from pre pandemic and getting back to normal too early especially football. With 10000 STs sold thats one of us every other seat. Many will wear a mask but some simply won't even though they could. Many will honour the time allocated to get in and there'll be a mad rush at the end to get out.
The more opportunity we give it to spread the more it will mutate, ******g many more than was necessary. This has not only impact on all affected but slows down the rest of the health service's ability to deal with business as usual. My bowel cancer screening kit arrived yesterday. 7 months after it was expected. I'm as exasperated about the situation as anyone else and looking forward to seeing live football, theatre and concerts but when the time is right. Not when some Sontaran in the disguise of a Health Secretary decides to deal with the situation by shouting at it.

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HUTCHYHIBBY

04-07-2021, 01:29 PM

How many people have looked up Sontaran so far? 😃

Onion

04-07-2021, 01:34 PM

Why would there be such restrictions post August 9th?

Game on isn’t it? Full house.

J

Scotland's numbers are spiking, driven by travelling football fans. It's perfect for Sturgeon to continue restricting football crowds after most other things have opened up. She's done worse with less reason - Cup Final as example.

Bristolhibby

04-07-2021, 01:40 PM

Scotland's numbers are spiking, driven by travelling football fans. It's perfect for Sturgeon to continue restricting football crowds after most other things have opened up. She's done worse with less reason - Cup Final as example.

I reckon there will a bit of real politik.

If we will have seen a month of full houses in England, it would be a difficult sale to keep restrictions in Scotland.

J

Billy Whizz

04-07-2021, 01:49 PM

Not long until the Arsenal home game, would be nice to know what’s happening this sometime this week

Just Alf

04-07-2021, 01:56 PM

Scotland's numbers are spiking, driven by travelling football fans. It's perfect for Sturgeon to continue restricting football crowds after most other things have opened up. She's done worse with less reason - Cup Final as example.On Friday she said it couldn't all be blamed on footy, said the stats showed it was only around a 10% impact so was unfair to blame it on that alone... it was in response to a press question.

Iggy Pope

04-07-2021, 02:05 PM

Scotland's numbers are spiking, driven by travelling football fans. It's perfect for Sturgeon to continue restricting football crowds after most other things have opened up. She's done worse with less reason - Cup Final as example.

Travelling? Where to, London? That’s not ben outside of boundaries for a year now. GNER and BA will testify as will the A1. I’ve spent as much time in London past 12 months as I have in Leith.

Bishop Hibee

04-07-2021, 02:07 PM

On Friday she said it couldn't all be blamed on footy, said the stats showed it was only around a 10% impact so was unfair to blame it on that alone... it was in response to a press question.

People giving up on social distancing as they don’t know anyone suffering with Covid is the real driver. Got to be more than 2000 at the Arsenal game surely! Scottish Government looking foolish over this if hospitals are coping fine with the numbers of Covid patients

B.H.F.C

04-07-2021, 02:11 PM

Scotland's numbers are spiking, driven by travelling football fans. It's perfect for Sturgeon to continue restricting football crowds after most other things have opened up. She's done worse with less reason - Cup Final as example.

There will have been more people on trains in to Edinburgh and Glasgow yesterday, than there were on trains to London a fortnight ago.

CMurdoch

04-07-2021, 03:11 PM

Scotland's numbers are spiking, driven by travelling football fans. It's perfect for Sturgeon to continue restricting football crowds after most other things have opened up. She's done worse with less reason - Cup Final as example.

Case numbers in Scotland rose quickly to a peak 3 days ago of 4234 and have been falling in big chunks since to sit at 2726 today.
If the case numbers continue to fall in big chunks things will be looking very decent again by next weekend while the English numbers go the other way.
I would happily go back to Easter Road by mid July but I have been avoiding the inside of pubs for obvious reasons.
I am hopeful we will all be back at Easter Road for our 2nd home league game of the season. A shame the open up date isn't August 7th instead of the 10th.
I don't see the first minister holding football back unless a hellish variant surfaces in the meantime.

ancient hibee

04-07-2021, 04:44 PM

Hints that mask wearing in England after 19th July will be left to the individual.

Hints that mask wearing in Scotland after 9th August will be subject to government directions.

Moulin Yarns

04-07-2021, 04:47 PM

Hints that mask wearing in England after 19th July will be left to the individual.

Hints that mask wearing in Scotland after 9th August will be subject to government directions.

That's not really what we were told.

Do what you want in England from 19th July, be cautious and continue to wear masks in public transport and shops from 9th August in Scotland.
Pretty simple message. To be honest.

Thank **** I'm in Scotland 😉

Wakeyhibee

04-07-2021, 06:13 PM

Case numbers in Scotland rose quickly to a peak 3 days ago of 4234 and have been falling in big chunks since to sit at 2726 today.
If the case numbers continue to fall in big chunks things will be looking very decent again by next weekend while the English numbers go the other way.
I would happily go back to Easter Road by mid July but I have been avoiding the inside of pubs for obvious reasons.
I am hopeful we will all be back at Easter Road for our 2nd home league game of the season. A shame the open up date isn't August 7th instead of the 10th.
I don't see the first minister holding football back unless a hellish variant surfaces in the meantime.

Even if cases stay relatively high, the conclusions might be totally different now. 6-12 months ago high cases meant a lockdown or severe restrictions were in the post 4-6 weeks later.

Vaccines are having an impact now. It will depend on that continued and improved impact on hospitalization and sadly deaths that are the steer now, rather than just cases alone.

JXM73

05-07-2021, 10:47 AM

Scotland top of European infections per 100,000 ....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57712737

TrinityHibs

05-07-2021, 11:51 AM

I never said stay indoors. I do have an issue of nothing changing from pre pandemic and getting back to normal too early especially football. With 10000 STs sold thats one of us every other seat. Many will wear a mask but some simply won't even though they could. Many will honour the time allocated to get in and there'll be a mad rush at the end to get out.
The more opportunity we give it to spread the more it will mutate, ******g many more than was necessary. This has not only impact on all affected but slows down the rest of the health service's ability to deal with business as usual. My bowel cancer screening kit arrived yesterday. 7 months after it was expected. I'm as exasperated about the situation as anyone else and looking forward to seeing live football, theatre and concerts but when the time is right. Not when some Sontaran in the disguise of a Health Secretary decides to deal with the situation by shouting at it.

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I phoned for my screening kit. It arrived 4 days later. Submitted and got the result 4 days later. There is a lot more but Covid is not impacting on bowel cancer screening or treatment at this time. If anybody thinks their kit is late phone up it could be one of the most important phone calls you ever make.

O'Rourke3

05-07-2021, 12:02 PM

I phoned for my screening kit. It arrived 4 days later. Submitted and got the result 4 days later. There is a lot more but Covid is not impacting on bowel cancer screening or treatment at this time. If anybody thinks their kit is late phone up it could be one of the most important phone calls you ever make.Good shout. Its normally mid December so going to leave a reminder now in calendar.

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GreenCastle

05-07-2021, 02:37 PM

Full stadiums in England from Friday August 13th - with no need to provide proof of double jabbed or show vaccine passport.

Sauerkraut

05-07-2021, 02:47 PM

Good shout. Its normally mid December so going to leave a reminder now in calendar.

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Yes indeedy, do this guys. My personal guarantee that it's an absolute life saver. If it's been more than 2years since your last test, or if you're concerned, phone 0800 0121 833 and they'll wheech you a test kit.

blackpoolhibs

05-07-2021, 03:43 PM

I never said stay indoors. I do have an issue of nothing changing from pre pandemic and getting back to normal too early especially football. With 10000 STs sold thats one of us every other seat. Many will wear a mask but some simply won't even though they could. Many will honour the time allocated to get in and there'll be a mad rush at the end to get out.
The more opportunity we give it to spread the more it will mutate, ******g many more than was necessary. This has not only impact on all affected but slows down the rest of the health service's ability to deal with business as usual. My bowel cancer screening kit arrived yesterday. 7 months after it was expected. I'm as exasperated about the situation as anyone else and looking forward to seeing live football, theatre and concerts but when the time is right. Not when some Sontaran in the disguise of a Health Secretary decides to deal with the situation by shouting at it.

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The virus will mutate as long as there are people not vaccinated, how long shall we wait until we can get back to normal, as there is a slight chance people may die if they catch covid, vaccinated or not?

Every cancer treatment has taken a back seat due to covid, why should people suffering from any cancer be kept waiting longer because there is a slight chance some folk will catch covid, and then get seriously ill from it?

Renfrew_Hibby

05-07-2021, 04:00 PM

Full stadiums in England from Friday August 13th - with no need to provide proof of double jabbed or show vaccine passport.

Not a chance of that up here unfortunately.
Highest rates in Europe, spreading like wildfire.

scoopyboy

05-07-2021, 04:05 PM

Not a chance of that up here unfortunately.
Highest rates in Europe, spreading like wildfire.

It's slowing down isn't it, quite dramatic drops the last few days.

GreenCastle

05-07-2021, 04:08 PM

Not a chance of that up here unfortunately.
Highest rates in Europe, spreading like wildfire.

I wouldn't say no chance - changes will be happening.

Highest rates currently but also many now vaccinated. Slight increase in hospitalisations (not as bad as 1st or 2nd waves) and low numbers in ICU.

I would expect full stadiums sometime after the 9th August when restrictions finally ease.

Cases will continue to happen as society reopens.

ABZHFC

05-07-2021, 04:40 PM

Not a chance of that up here unfortunately.
Highest rates in Europe, spreading like wildfire.

There is every chance, the change in tone from the Scottish Government has been pronounced since May time, they want to get back to normal, and good on them

GreenCastle

05-07-2021, 04:43 PM

There is every chance, the change in tone from the Scottish Government has been pronounced since May time, they want to get back to normal, and good on them

Yup.

I’m heading down to watch Newcastle games if they keep stopping us watch live football outdoors.

04Sauzee

05-07-2021, 04:45 PM

Just got 4 tickets for the Hibs end for the Iain Davidson testimonial at Raith Rovers on the 16th July. Not sure how many tickets Hibs got.

Keith_M

05-07-2021, 04:57 PM

You can buy tickets for the Raith v Hibs game here

https://www.raithrovers.net/buy-tickets

Doesn't seem to work in Firefox, so try Chrome (or Edge)

davhibby

05-07-2021, 05:00 PM

Just got 4 tickets for the Hibs end for the Iain Davidson testimonial at Raith Rovers on the 16th July. Not sure how many tickets Hibs got.

We’re in the normal away stand and the Raith tickets are for the stand behind the goals at the other end so I wonder if they’ve maybe split it 50/50. That would mean there’s 500 for Hibs fans

04Sauzee

06-07-2021, 09:40 AM

Ross County statement ⬇️

COVID-19 Update
06/07/2021
A number of Ross County Players and Coaching staff have tested positive for COVID-19. As a precaution the club has temporarily suspended football operations to prevent any further spread of the virus.

Billy Whizz

06-07-2021, 10:33 AM

H18 SFR

06-07-2021, 12:36 PM

Kate Forbes on the radio saying the gov want to keep restrictions on numbers at things like weddings and stadium events for a longer period.

I’m going to find it hard watching full stadiums in England and not being able to go to Easter Road.

KeithTheHibby

06-07-2021, 12:39 PM

SHODAN

06-07-2021, 12:39 PM

AugustaHibs

06-07-2021, 12:46 PM

Sir David Gray

06-07-2021, 05:06 PM

Have you got a source for that? Don’t think stadiums were mentioned

"We are lifting the limits and lifting as much of the legal restrictions as possible. So that means physical distancing, it means the attendee caps on, for example, life events like weddings or being in stadiums and that kind of thing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-57732436

percy veer

06-07-2021, 05:43 PM

"We are lifting the limits and lifting as much of the legal restrictions as possible. So that means physical distancing, it means the attendee caps on, for example, life events like weddings or being in stadiums and that kind of thing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-57732436

the way i read that is they are lifting the attendance limits at weddings and stadiums.

Sir David Gray

06-07-2021, 06:07 PM

the way i read that is they are lifting the attendance limits at weddings and stadiums.

Yeah you're right I've misread what the poster was looking for.

3pm

06-07-2021, 08:40 PM

How many are at Wembley the night?

Quiet times behind both goals. 😁

number9dream

13-07-2021, 01:36 PM

Confirmation of the 2000 seated fans from Monday...

No word on applications from clubs on European ties yet.

Blaster

13-07-2021, 01:49 PM

Hopefully get around 5000 or slightly more at the European game

GreenCastle

13-07-2021, 01:54 PM

Hopefully get around 5000 or slightly more at the European game

Slowly getting there !!

Hopefully full stadium after August 9th as we remove restrictions.

bingo70

13-07-2021, 01:59 PM

Confirmation of the 2000 seated fans from Monday...

No word on applications from clubs on European ties yet.

Absolute nonsense.

The idea that the same number of people are allowed in St Mirrens stadium as ibrox and parkhead is nuts and doesn’t make any sense.

The idea we’re meant to be grateful for the scraps they’re throwing us is really getting on my nerves.

I’d be tempted to tell them to shove their 2,000 tickets up their arse.

Probably a good job I’m not in charge here.

Blaster

13-07-2021, 02:02 PM

Slowly getting there !!

Hopefully full stadium after August 9th as we remove restrictions.

Agree 👍

bingo70

13-07-2021, 02:05 PM

Slowly getting there !!

Hopefully full stadium after August 9th as we remove restrictions.

Kidding yourself on if you think we’re going from 2,000 one week to full houses the next.

They’re talking ***** and just kicking the ball down the park a few weeks again to stop people moaning.

Hibeesforever

13-07-2021, 02:15 PM

Confirmation of the 2000 seated fans from Monday...

No word on applications from clubs on European ties yet.

We have that already, so the SNP have offered nothing new. Football needs to be outspoken and get full stadiums back...silence from the SPFL...

bingo70

13-07-2021, 02:19 PM

We have that already, so the SNP have offered nothing new. Football needs to be outspoken and get full stadiums back...silence from the SPFL...

Totally agree.

Imo we should all be back in grounds now. If that’s not possible then it should be based on % of grounds with a roadmap as to when the % will increase as time goes on.

2,000 for all stadiums is a complete nonsense.

Blaster

13-07-2021, 02:20 PM

We have that already, so the SNP have offered nothing new. Football needs to be outspoken and get full stadiums back...silence from the SPFL...

We currently only have 500. We got extra by getting the 2000 for tonight

Hopefully a similar ratio increase for next Thursday would be nice but don’t think it will be as many

Lendo

13-07-2021, 02:23 PM

We have that already, so the Scottish Government have offered nothing new. Football needs to be outspoken and get full stadiums back...silence from the SPFL...

Corrected

Lago

13-07-2021, 02:39 PM

Absolute nonsense.

The idea that the same number of people are allowed in St Mirrens stadium as ibrox and parkhead is nuts and doesn’t make any sense.

The idea we’re meant to be grateful for the scraps they’re throwing us is really getting on my nerves.

I’d be tempted to tell them to shove their 2,000 tickets up their arse.

Probably a good job I’m not in charge here.
Totally agree, it's pathetic the way football is being treated, if it goes on for any length of time fans will just drift away from the game.

GreenCastle

13-07-2021, 02:42 PM

Kidding yourself on if you think we’re going from 2,000 one week to full houses the next.

They’re talking ***** and just kicking the ball down the park a few weeks again to stop people moaning.

Remember England will have full stadiums for start of EPL season.

At a minimum it should be 75% by August for Scottish Clubs and away fans allowed. You can travel throughout the U.K. so why not.

bingo70

13-07-2021, 03:02 PM

https://twitter.com/scotsabroadpod/status/1414961723711315976?s=21

That’s a bit more encouraging.

Will maybe tuck my bottom lip back in for now.

blackpoolhibs

13-07-2021, 03:05 PM

number9dream

13-07-2021, 03:10 PM

As others say, 2000 tonight when 500 is the rulebook number suggests there will be some leeway in coming weeks.
And then from 9 August it could be a return to normal - or close to it anyway.

Despite our grumbles, I do think we need to be mindful that there is a perception (from non fans) that football has already been given preferential treatment. There was widespread frustration about the ugly scenes at Rangers' various title 'parties' and then all the negative Covid headlines around the Tartan Army trip to London.

I hope those lucky enough to be going along this evening have a good night out and everything goes smoothly.

ronaldo7

13-07-2021, 03:23 PM

They will have full night clubs next Monday.

And full hospitals a month later.

Moulin Yarns

13-07-2021, 03:28 PM

And full hospitals a month later.

Exactly what is happening in the Netherlands now

bingo70

13-07-2021, 03:45 PM

And full hospitals a month later.

What’s the point in the vaccine then?

Stairway 2 7

13-07-2021, 03:50 PM

Exactly what is happening in the Netherlands now

No probably in a few weeks, but thanks to vaccines will be smaller than previous waves

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ronaldo7

13-07-2021, 04:02 PM

What’s the point in the vaccine then?

I'd have thought that was evident. We're not all vaccinated though are we. A cautious opening is better than a full blown open all hours situation.

CraigHibee

13-07-2021, 04:03 PM

And full hospitals a month later.

England will implode once their restrictions are lifted imo

greenginger

13-07-2021, 04:04 PM

What’s the point in the vaccine then?

They've only got 38% of the population fully vaccinated

GreenCastle

13-07-2021, 04:09 PM

They've only got 38% of the population fully vaccinated

While Scotland have 53% and UK at 52% - luckily those most at risk are vaccinated.

Cases will go up naturally as you open up more - not sure why folk get surprised with that.

JimBHibees

13-07-2021, 04:15 PM

Absolute nonsense.

The idea that the same number of people are allowed in St Mirrens stadium as ibrox and parkhead is nuts and doesn’t make any sense.

The idea we’re meant to be grateful for the scraps they’re throwing us is really getting on my nerves.

I’d be tempted to tell them to shove their 2,000 tickets up their arse.

Probably a good job I’m not in charge here.

You would think a percentage would make more sense

danhibees1875

13-07-2021, 04:22 PM

You would think a percentage would make more sense

I guess the actual sitting (effectively outside) in a stadium isn't the risky part - it's the entering and exiting, the public transport to and from the stadium, the pub/restaurant socialising around the ground. Perhaps that's what's driving the limits and why it's not strictly based on the capacity of the ground.

I accept you'd still expect to see different numbers depending on local infrastructure at that point, but it would get difficult to calculate compared to an easy catch all figure.

davhibby

13-07-2021, 04:32 PM

Remember England will have full stadiums for start of EPL season.

At a minimum it should be 75% by August for Scottish Clubs and away fans allowed. You can travel throughout the U.K. so why not.

Away fans are allowed already up here. The issue is that until it’s full capacity grounds some clubs won’t be able to allow away fans until they get their own supporters in first. Teams like Livi and St Johnstone might even be able to allow away fans in before the 9th if they can be allowed more than 2k

Sir David Gray

13-07-2021, 04:45 PM

https://twitter.com/scotsabroadpod/status/1414961723711315976?s=21

That’s a bit more encouraging.

Will maybe tuck my bottom lip back in for now.

I would be surprised if Ibrox/Parkhead has 15/20k allowed for the opening weekend.

It's at least 500 people that's allowed in just now within level 2 areas and we're getting up to 4 times that at 2,000.

I hope it's correct and we can start to have stadiums around a third full but I wouldn't be surprised if we're talking about no more than 5/6k able to attend whilst we remain in level 0.

blackpoolhibs

13-07-2021, 04:56 PM

And full hospitals a month later.

The trouble is Ronnie, until everyone is vaccinated, people will still die, and everyone will not be vaccinated, so we will just have to suck it up.

If someone feels vulnerable, and they have not had 2 jabs, then they should probably do what's best for them and keep away from places that crowds will go.

Those that have had 2 jabs, will need to make the same decision too, it's all about personal choice now.

The amount of people who get covid now will 100% rise, there is no doubt about that, but we cant ignore the rest of the population who are suffering from different illnesses and just concentrate on covid now, i believe the time is right now to open things up again.

I suppose no time is right for some, but for me people will have to accept that men and women will still die from this, we cant wait for ever to open things up.

ronaldo7

13-07-2021, 05:12 PM

The trouble is Ronnie, until everyone is vaccinated, people will still die, and everyone will not be vaccinated, so we will just have to suck it up.

If someone feels vulnerable, and they have not had 2 jabs, then they should probably do what's best for them and keep away from places that crowds will go.

Those that have had 2 jabs, will need to make the same decision too, it's all about personal choice now.

The amount of people who get covid now will 100% rise, there is no doubt about that, but we cant ignore the rest of the population who are suffering from different illnesses and just concentrate on covid now, i believe the time is right now to open things up again.

I suppose no time is right for some, but for me people will have to accept that men and women will still die from this, we cant wait for ever to open things up.

I agree we've got to open up, but do it gradually, with mask wearing on public transport and crowded indoor areas until seated for the foreseeable. The vaccinations will allow those who are vulnerable some semblance of normal, but they'll always be on the look out for hot spots imo. I'm currently sitting in the boozer with the Mrs who was previously shielding, it's fine just now, but it'll get busier on a couple of hours and we'll be fu. I'm happy with that. 👍

Best wishes to all the Lancs boys. 👍

blackpoolhibs

13-07-2021, 05:15 PM

I agree we've got to open up, but do it gradually, with mask wearing on public transport and crowded indoor areas until seated for the foreseeable. The vaccinations will allow those who are vulnerable some semblance of normal, but they'll always be on the look out for hot spots imo. I'm currently sitting in the boozer with the Mrs who was previously shielding, it's fine just now, but it'll get busier on a couple of hours and we'll be fu. I'm happy with that. 👍

Best wishes to all the Lancs boys. 👍

Cant argue with any of that Ronnie, although your scenario is never going to happen with these clowns in charge of the country.

Come next Monday, it's a free for all down here.

ronaldo7

13-07-2021, 05:19 PM

Cant argue with any of that Ronnie, although your scenario is never going to happen with these clowns in charge of the country.

Come next Monday, it's a free for all down here.

The clowns are in charge of your adopted country. 👍 😆

Alfred E Newman

13-07-2021, 05:39 PM

Away fans are allowed already up here. The issue is that until it’s full capacity grounds some clubs won’t be able to allow away fans until they get their own supporters in first. Teams like Livi and St Johnstone might even be able to allow away fans in before the 9th if they can be allowed more than 2k

All Livi and most St Johnstone fans will get in.

blackpoolhibs

13-07-2021, 05:57 PM

The clowns are in charge of your adopted country. 👍 😆

Aye, him and his cronies are hopeless. :rolleyes:

Pretty Boy

13-07-2021, 06:05 PM

In reality 2000 fans is enough to satisfy demand for the vast, vast majority of games in Scotland. Even in the Premiership it will allow a fair few teams close to a full compliment of home fans. Obviously that is a nightmare for teams like St Johnstone who give 3 out of 4 stands in their stadium over to the OF but if it's about getting ST holders in only ourselves, Hearts, Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Celtic and Rangers will really struggle.

Of course it's about far more than that. We all rely on PATG and away fans for match day revenue and the reality is that ST only attendance will cost a lot of clubs money (if we only take in person revenue into account).

If there is a will to have bigger attendances by the start of the season then there is way. If that means proof of vaccination or proof of a negative test then so be it. The SPFL néed to go to the govt with a firm plan.

Onceinawhile

13-07-2021, 06:18 PM

Blaster

13-07-2021, 08:21 PM

Celtic want 18k at their European game next week

Moulin Yarns

13-07-2021, 08:53 PM

Celtic want 18k at their European game next week

https://news.stv.tv/sport/football/celtic-hope-to-have-18000-fans-at-champions-league-qualifier?top

More on this.

Smartie

13-07-2021, 08:56 PM

The green brigade should just say they'll riot if they're not allowed a certain number in the ground and I don't see what the police or government would do about it.

Sir David Gray

13-07-2021, 09:25 PM

Celtic want 18k at their European game next week

They've no chance of that amount in my opinion.

bingo70

13-07-2021, 09:39 PM

They've no chance of that amount in my opinion.

Good on them for asking though.

Clubs need to start trying to put a bit more pressure on IMO,

calumhibee1

13-07-2021, 09:48 PM

Good on them for asking though.

Clubs need to start trying to put a bit more pressure on IMO,

Yup. Time to start asking for a lot more and making it clear in public that we’re asking for it and we have the facilities in place to accommodate it.

Sir David Gray

13-07-2021, 10:50 PM

Good on them for asking though.

Clubs need to start trying to put a bit more pressure on IMO,

Yep I said the same the other day when I read the article about Aberdeen applying for something like 6,000 tickets for every home game between now and 1st August.

lord bunberry

13-07-2021, 11:20 PM

Good on them for asking though.

Clubs need to start trying to put a bit more pressure on IMO,
****in right they do. We’re all sitting at home watching huge crowds in stadiums in England while we are restricted to minuscule crowds. I’ve had enough of it.

Callum_62

14-07-2021, 12:41 AM

****in right they do. We’re all sitting at home watching huge crowds in stadiums in England while we are restricted to minuscule crowds. I’ve had enough of it.The euros were treated as a special case Wernt they?

If we go ahead on the 9th August how many games home games is that? 2?

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TrinityHibs

14-07-2021, 06:50 AM

The euros were treated as a special case Wernt they?

If we go ahead on the 9th August how many games home games is that? 2?

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I didn't realise Covid was aware the Euros were a special case. The clowns aren't restricted to running BH's adopted country.

GreenCastle

14-07-2021, 06:55 AM

Good on them for asking though.

Clubs need to start trying to put a bit more pressure on IMO,

Yup - clubs need to know so they can plan / sell tickets.

Fans need to know also also as they plan arrangements to travel etc.

Would be curious to know how those who attended last night felt the experience was ?

Easter Road is actually quite fortunate it has some large concourse areas - compare to some clubs stadiums which are older and more compact…thinking…Dundee Utd away - Jim McLean Stand is a maze of tight corridors.

Lee Marvin

14-07-2021, 06:56 AM

Even if we are allowed 5k in for the European games we are unlikely to make any money from this competition. Our European 'adventure' may even end of costing us money!!

calumhibee1

14-07-2021, 07:16 AM

Even if we are allowed 5k in for the European games we are unlikely to make any money from this competition. Our European 'adventure' may even end of costing us money!!

Short of getting to the groups I think it’s a cert we’ll lose money on it.

Bristolhibby

14-07-2021, 07:18 AM

Even if we are allowed 5k in for the European games we are unlikely to make any money from this competition. Our European 'adventure' may even end of costing us money!!

Post 9th August it will be full house European nights.

Just need to still be in it.

J

B.H.F.C

14-07-2021, 07:28 AM

Short of getting to the groups I think it’s a cert we’ll lose money on it.

Don’t think we’ll be making a fortune in the qualifying rounds but should cover our costs I’d think.

First qualifying round: €150,000
Second qualifying round: €350,000
Third qualifying round: €550,000
Play-off round: €750,000

Money to be made if we get to the groups.

Qualified to Group Stage: €2,940,000
Match won in Group Stage: €500,000
Match drawn in Group Stage: €166,000

calumhibee1

14-07-2021, 07:50 AM

Don’t think we’ll be making a fortune in the qualifying rounds but should cover our costs I’d think.

First qualifying round: €150,000
Second qualifying round: €350,000
Third qualifying round: €550,000
Play-off round: €750,000

Money to be made if we get to the groups.

Qualified to Group Stage: €2,940,000
Match won in Group Stage: €500,000
Match drawn in Group Stage: €166,000

Is that conference league? That seems a lot of money!

B.H.F.C

14-07-2021, 07:56 AM

Is that conference league? That seems a lot of money!

Yep, definitely the figures for conference. You’ll get the money for the round you reach in qualifying, rather than the money noted against each round, but along with any tickets we can shift we’ll hopefully have ourselves more than covered.