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Smartie
03-01-2019, 08:25 AM
With the criticism directed at most of the current squad am sure Brooster would take Lionel Richie at this stage 😜
Lionel Ritchie is not who we are looking for.
CropleyWasGod
03-01-2019, 08:27 AM
Lionel Ritchie is not who we are looking for.
He'd be our midfield commodore.
NC1875
03-01-2019, 08:32 AM
He'd be our midfield commodore.
He’s once, twice, three times the player of Bartley
SouthMoroccoStu
03-01-2019, 08:32 AM
With the criticism directed at most of the current squad am sure Brooster would take Lionel Richie at this stage 😜
Another black midfielder.... 😉
*runs for cover.....
Time For Heroes
03-01-2019, 08:34 AM
Lionel Ritchie is not who we are looking for.
If he signed I'd be dancing on the ceiling
CropleyWasGod
03-01-2019, 08:34 AM
He’s once, twice, three times the player of Bartley
But Marv is built like a brick house.
The Modfather
03-01-2019, 08:40 AM
What’s Allan’s fitness level? My concern is whether he could go all night long in the evening kick offs?
Springbank
03-01-2019, 08:52 AM
What’s Allan’s fitness level? My concern is whether he could go all night long in the evening kick offs?
Let us then hope that Scott Allan is not on the phone to Dave King saying Hello [hello] is it me you're looking for?
dchibs
03-01-2019, 09:04 AM
With the criticism directed at most of the current squad am sure Brooster would take Lionel Richie at this stage 😜
Get his brother Maboza in.
Speedway
03-01-2019, 09:09 AM
With the criticism directed at most of the current squad am sure Brooster would take Lionel Richie at this stage 😜
Err, Hello?!
greenpaper55
03-01-2019, 10:12 AM
BBC highlighting that Allan might be a target for other clubs including the Hearts !
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46574062
St Pauli Hibee
03-01-2019, 10:18 AM
How About the Following Names:
Craig Halkett (Livingston)
Chris Cadden (Motherwell)
Scott Allan (Celtic)
Cammy Kerr (Dundee)
Ryan Hardie (Livingston)
Shaun Byrne (Livingston)
Ryan Williamson (Dunfermline)
Pavol Safranko (Dundee United)
Greenworld
03-01-2019, 10:28 AM
How About the Following Names:
Craig Halkett (Livingston)
Chris Cadden (Motherwell)
Scott Allan (Celtic)
Cammy Kerr (Dundee)
Ryan Hardie (Livingston)
Shaun Byrne (Livingston)
Ryan Williamson (Dunfermline)
Pavol Safranko (Dundee United)Nope our recruiting team have done due diligence and checks on all of these and they do not match the criteria...
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MWHIBBIES
03-01-2019, 10:40 AM
How About the Following Names:
Craig Halkett (Livingston)
Chris Cadden (Motherwell)
Scott Allan (Celtic)
Cammy Kerr (Dundee)
Ryan Hardie (Livingston)
Shaun Byrne (Livingston)
Ryan Williamson (Dunfermline)
Pavol Safranko (Dundee United)
I think apart from Allan that's a decent championship team.
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 10:42 AM
I think apart from Allan that's a decent championship team.
I'd argue that the first two names have more than proven themselves in the top league....
BoomtownHibees
03-01-2019, 10:46 AM
I think apart from Allan that's a decent championship team.
I think Scott Allan would do alright in the Championship 😉
calumhibee1
03-01-2019, 10:47 AM
I think apart from Allan that's a decent championship team.
Think most of them seem like the kind of players who have got us where we are now. Other than Allan I wouldn’t be that fussed for any of them although admittedly I know nothing about Cadden somehow.
JimBHibees
03-01-2019, 10:49 AM
I'd argue that the first two names have more than proven themselves in the top league....
All apart from bottom 2 have IMO.
Gaffer1875
03-01-2019, 10:52 AM
Jai Quitongo has left Partick - I’m sure we were linked with him a couple of years back
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bigwheel
03-01-2019, 10:55 AM
All apart from bottom 2 have IMO.
that's fair enough too!
mcfly
03-01-2019, 11:00 AM
Jai Quitongo has left Partick - I’m sure we were linked with him a couple of years back
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Why would we sign a player released from Partick?
Surely we must aim a bit higher than that.
We should be poaching players from killie, Livingston, etc. Teams that are doing better than us but we have a better budget
As for selling Kamberi this in my view would be a disaster. He’s a young player with huge potential. He needs service and this season has had none.
The laddie needs help. He will score goals given the service. Just look at last season.
MWHIBBIES
03-01-2019, 11:01 AM
I'd argue that the first two names have more than proven themselves in the top league....
I don't really want any players from Livi because they only have any success on a disgrace of a home park. The actual players aren't that special.
Cadden yeah, you're probably right..
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 11:03 AM
I don't really want any players from Livi because they only have any success on a disgrace of a home park. The actual players aren't that special.
Cadden yeah, you're probably right..
not sure you are calling that one right - the Livi players played well against us at our place recently - a number of them look more than capable of playing at a higher level..
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 11:06 AM
Why would we sign a player released from Partick?
Surely we must aim a bit higher than that.
We should be poaching players from killie, Livingston, etc. Teams that are doing better than us but we have a better budget
As for selling Kamberi this in my view would be a disaster. He’s a young player with huge potential. He needs service and this season has had none.
The laddie needs help. He will score goals given the service. Just look at last season.
Agree with you on the specific player - but wouldn't rule out signing someone being released from other clubs if we feel he can progress. A good example would be Eamonn Brophy - released by Hamilton - now looking a top prospect playing with Killie .
St Pauli Hibee
03-01-2019, 11:07 AM
Think most of them seem like the kind of players who have got us where we are now. Other than Allan I wouldn’t be that fussed for any of them although admittedly I know nothing about Cadden somehow.
How About:
Adam Matthews (Sunderland)
Josh Morris (S****horpe United)
Paul Caddis (Bradford City)
Graham Carey (Plymouth)
Igor Vetokele (Charlton)
Gary Hooper (Sheff Wed)
Darren Fletcher (Stoke City)
Sam Morsy (Wigan Athletic)
Lewis MacLeod (Brentford)
Craig Conway (Blackburn)
HappyAsHellas
03-01-2019, 11:09 AM
Prior to them coming to ER, 23 of their 28 points were won on their plastic nightmare of a pitch.
Fanforlife
03-01-2019, 11:13 AM
Don't have a Scooby about any in or out at Hibs but definitely think the feel good factor of last couple of years is draining away at an alarming rate,hopefully some of it can be restored this window & get us all backing everything Hibernian again.GGTTH
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 11:17 AM
Prior to them coming to ER, 23 of their 28 points were won on their plastic nightmare of a pitch.
I'd bet a few of them will go on to get good moves and have good careers - like Livi teams of the past...
Tha Cabbage Kid
03-01-2019, 11:17 AM
A very interesting stay from last season. 3 of the Top 4 players who made through balls were hibees who have not been replaced. Maybe that's why Flo and Mac are not doing it this year. Sorry if posted previously. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190103/bd0728009cf091f7d6ae246282092b2b.jpg
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mcfly
03-01-2019, 11:19 AM
Don't have a Scooby about any in or out at Hibs but definitely think the feel good factor of last couple of years is draining away at an alarming rate,hopefully some of it can be restored this window & get us all backing everything Hibernian again.GGTTH
You have a good point.
The current crowds are at a huge level right now and to keep them the board have to show ambition and spend a bit of money.
There is still a lot to play for and a good cup run would also help
MWHIBBIES
03-01-2019, 11:22 AM
not sure you are calling that one right - the Livi players played well against us at our place recently - a number of them look more than capable of playing at a higher level..
Possibly but it will be for hoofball sides if they do. They just lumped it for 90 minutes at Easter road. They just lumped it at home as well. Prefer proper footballers like Ambrose/Hanlon in my back 4.
cabbageandribs1875
03-01-2019, 11:23 AM
Why would we sign a player released from Partick?
Surely we must aim a bit higher than that.
We should be poaching players from killie, Livingston, etc. Teams that are doing better than us but we have a better budget
As for selling Kamberi this in my view would be a disaster. He’s a young player with huge potential. He needs service and this season has had none.
The laddie needs help. He will score goals given the service. Just look at last season.
someone needs to tell our manager this :agree:
p.s. and also to stop publicly slating the laddie
calumhibee1
03-01-2019, 11:25 AM
A very interesting stay from last season. 3 of the Top 4 players who made through balls were hibees who have not been replaced. Maybe that's why Flo and Mac are not doing it this year. Sorry if posted previously. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190103/bd0728009cf091f7d6ae246282092b2b.jpg
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Interesting stat that. Wonder what the figures would be like for this year?
Allant1981
03-01-2019, 11:27 AM
I really hope about 90% of the players suggested on the last page or so are no where near Easter road, we need better than what we have, not worse
FilipinoHibs
03-01-2019, 11:34 AM
We need quality not quantity so stop putting a load of dross forward please. 2 or 3 needed. No Duffy recruitment policy please.
Cat Stanton
03-01-2019, 11:35 AM
Jai Quitongo has left Partick - I’m sure we were linked with him a couple of years back
Yes, left Partick for being arrested by police for beating up his partner. Allegedly.
Unallegedly, no thanks.
Ps is there actually anything on this thread with real transfer rumours rather than just folk saying "what about this player", and "I wouldn’t mind that player", and then folk arguing about it...???!!
Gaffer1875
03-01-2019, 11:36 AM
Yes, for being arrested by police for beating up his partner. Allegedly.
Unallegedly, no thanks.
Ps is there actually anything on this thread with real transfer rumours rather than just folk saying "what about this player", and "I wouldn’t mind that player", and then folk arguing about it...???!!
Caught it on SSN and thought I’d share given our link a couple of years ago. I’ll think twice about posting next time [emoji85]
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greenpaper55
03-01-2019, 11:36 AM
Sometimes you have to try and find a nugget of gold amongst the dross, Scott Allan was one we took a chance on as he had been kicking about the lower leagues of England before we took him on board.
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 11:37 AM
We need quality not quantity so stop putting a load of dross forward please. 2 or 3 needed. No Duffy recruitment policy please.
you do realise it's a fans forum and not the recruitment team don't you? :wink:
cabbageandribs1875
03-01-2019, 11:39 AM
Yes, left Partick for being arrested by police for beating up his partner. Allegedly.
Unallegedly, no thanks.
Ps is there actually anything on this thread with real transfer rumours rather than just folk saying "what about this player", and "I wouldn’t mind that player", and then folk arguing about it...???!!
absolutely not :greengrin
Smartie
03-01-2019, 11:45 AM
Interesting stat that. Wonder what the figures would be like for this year?
Emerson Hyndman is top of the "muscled off the ball just as he was about to play a through ball" list.
Tha Cabbage Kid
03-01-2019, 11:45 AM
Wouldn't mind Marcus taverner from Middlesbrough on loan
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LaMotta
03-01-2019, 11:45 AM
The Martin Boyle of this season, meh, wouldn’t be too bothered if we got good money for him. The player of last season, he was a big part of how well we did.
I do worry if Boyle has peaked in terms of improvement and last season will end up the purple season of his career, with teams having found out how to defend against him now.
Or, hopefully, he is just having a dip this season like everyone else and with the right quality in the team he will flourish again.
Again.....Let's talk cash. Anything upwards of £500k and he is yours. Contributed very little this season. Can you tell I'm all for a total clear out lol.
Losing Boyle would be a total DISASTER as he is the only player we have with real pace.
Even when hes not at his best he is vital in terms of being able to carry the ball, provide a different option over the top for passes, winning fouls and penalties and getting opponents booked.
Hes not been as effective this season however his best period last year came with Brandon Barker also on the pitch. Having one fast player in your team means its easier for teams to double or treble up on a player (happening to Boyle a lot this year). Having 2 speed merchants makes it so much harder for teams to play against.
We should he adding another fast player to the team not taking our only pacey asset away!
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 12:38 PM
Rangers trying to loan in Defoe.
hibsbollah
03-01-2019, 12:57 PM
Rangers trying to loan in Defoe.
Hes apparently on £130k a week. He'll have to take a hefty pay cut to move to the bigots.
It would appear that all the rumours, apart from Scotty, are about players leaving Hibs, not coming to Hibs. Bit of a worry that.
andybev1
03-01-2019, 01:01 PM
I see Hearts have signed David Vanacek from a czech side. Another big bruiser but looks like he knows where the goals are. I just hope we get people in soon.zo we are spared the usual agony. Lennon said they should be in sooner rather than later in one of his last interviews - lets hope so.
Dinkydoo
03-01-2019, 01:02 PM
What has he contributed in terms of goals and assists in the last 3 months for example? Next to nothing, he's not trying a leg.The problem is that Lennon I think is expecting the likes of Kamberi and Boyle to do too much. Give them the ball in a forward position, breaking towards goal and it's an entirely different story - see Kamberi's last goal against Celtic.
The midfield are the real problem. They're performing inconsistently and giving the ball away needlessly, forcing our best attackers into coming deep to create the opportunities.
SHODAN
03-01-2019, 01:02 PM
I see Hearts have signed David Vanacek from a czech side. Another big bruiser but looks like he knows where the goals are. I just hope we get people in soon.zo we are spared the usual agony. Lennon said they should be in sooner rather than later in one of his last interviews - lets hope so.
He was the pre-contract guy was he not?
Hibee Mac
03-01-2019, 01:02 PM
A very interesting stay from last season. 3 of the Top 4 players who made through balls were hibees who have not been replaced. Maybe that's why Flo and Mac are not doing it this year. Sorry if posted previously. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190103/bd0728009cf091f7d6ae246282092b2b.jpg
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That's an incredible stat considering that Scott Allan probably played 50% of the games as all the others.
matty_f
03-01-2019, 01:16 PM
It would appear that all the rumours, apart from Scotty, are about players leaving Hibs, not coming to Hibs. Bit of a worry that.
It's a really big worry. I would imagine that the club are active in trying to get players in but they have to deliver on it, after the backing the support have given the club through season ticket sales, attendances, and HSL it's time for the club to deliver.
They can't let us down this window, to do so would be very damaging, IMHO.
mcfly
03-01-2019, 01:24 PM
If the trip to Dubai is sat I’m expecting some signings this afternoon or tomorrow.
This is such an important transfer window for us - got to get it right.
We must have money to spend - I’m expecting 3-4 quality players in that go straight into first team
bingo70
03-01-2019, 01:30 PM
It's a really big worry. I would imagine that the club are active in trying to get players in but they have to deliver on it, after the backing the support have given the club through season ticket sales, attendances, and HSL it's time for the club to deliver.
They can't let us down this window, to do so would be very damaging, IMHO.
I was expecting a sarcastic response from you there but it never materialised.
Surely the fact there’s no rumours of players coming in is completely irrelevant? Probably just means we’re just being discreet.
That said, I think Lennon put pressure on the board by saying he wanted players in by the time we went to Dubai, if that doesn’t happen I’ll be concerned.
Is it Saturday or Monday we go? I’ve seen one poster saying Saturday and one Monday, both were said with absolute certainty so I don’t know who to believe?
Hibeesmad
03-01-2019, 01:45 PM
I know a few have mentioned him. Adam Hammill is signing for S****horpe
matty_f
03-01-2019, 01:47 PM
I was expecting a sarcastic response from you there but it never materialised.
Surely the fact there’s no rumours of players coming in is completely irrelevant? Probably just means we’re just being discreet.
That said, I think Lennon put pressure on the board by saying he wanted players in by the time we went to Dubai, if that doesn’t happen I’ll be concerned.
Is it Saturday or Monday we go? I’ve seen one poster saying Saturday and one Monday, both were said with absolute certainty so I don’t know who to believe?
I don't think it's irrelevant, it's very rare (though not unknown) that a signing happens without it being reported anywhere or someone getting wind of it.
My post was based on the premise that if the reports were all we had to go on (which at the moment is pretty much the case), then the board need to deliver.
I'm usually very optimistic, but just now I don't have a great deal of confidence that we're going to solve the problems we have at the moment.
Allant1981
03-01-2019, 01:55 PM
I know a few have mentioned him. Adam Hammill is signing for S****horpe
Glad to see we didn't go for him, no better than what we have currently
H18S NX
03-01-2019, 02:03 PM
Bristol City interested in Kamberi?
Niffy
03-01-2019, 02:05 PM
If the trip to Dubai is sat I’m expecting some signings this afternoon or tomorrow.
This is such an important transfer window for us - got to get it right.
We must have money to spend - I’m expecting 3-4 quality players in that go straight into first team
No danger last minute bargains after weeks of upping target players deals at a £1 a time until they get fed up and go to Dundee Utd
Lemonade
03-01-2019, 02:06 PM
I wasn’t worried that much until I read Broosters and Matty F’s opinions :-(
I would hate to lose Kamberi. He seems such a quality player.
Here’s hoping they all work it out during the training camp.
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 02:07 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-cup-winner-niklas-gunnarsson-on-look-out-for-new-club-1-4851149
Centre Hawf
03-01-2019, 02:13 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-cup-winner-niklas-gunnarsson-on-look-out-for-new-club-1-4851149
Gutted, would have loved to seen the big man back.
Stuart93
03-01-2019, 02:23 PM
Nearly the end of the 3rd day of the window and still no signings, GTF hibs
Hermit Crab
03-01-2019, 02:27 PM
Nearly the end of the 3rd day of the window and still no signings, GTF hibs
Disgrace, Lennon, Parker, Petrie and Dempster out!
andybev1
03-01-2019, 02:29 PM
He was the pre-contract guy was he not?
I just seen it on EEN and checked his goals out from last season on youtube, did not know that tbh.
bingo70
03-01-2019, 02:29 PM
Nearly the end of the 3rd day of the window and still no signings, GTF hibs
I don’t think it being the third day of the transfer window is a big deal, the fact we’re getting close to everyone going to Dubai is of far greater concern.
Even that wouldn’t be such a big deal if Lennon hasn’t specifically said he wanted a couple of players in before we go.
Forza Fred
03-01-2019, 02:30 PM
I was expecting a sarcastic response from you there but it never materialised.
Surely the fact there’s no rumours of players coming in is completely irrelevant? Probably just means we’re just being discreet.
That said, I think Lennon put pressure on the board by saying he wanted players in by the time we went to Dubai, if that doesn’t happen I’ll be concerned.
Is it Saturday or Monday we go? I’ve seen one poster saying Saturday and one Monday, both were said with absolute certainty so I don’t know who to believe?
I was told by someone who is going on the plane that it is Saturday night.
Callum_62
03-01-2019, 02:32 PM
I don’t think it being the third day of the transfer window is a big deal, the fact we’re getting close to everyone going to Dubai is of far greater concern.
Even that wouldn’t be such a big deal if Lennon hasn’t specifically said he wanted a couple of players in before we go.
Im pretty sure that happened a few times over summer too - “expect some soon” often turned into a damp squib
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JimboHibs
03-01-2019, 02:33 PM
If the trip to Dubai is sat I’m expecting some signings this afternoon or tomorrow.
This is such an important transfer window for us - got to get it right.
We must have money to spend - I’m expecting 3-4 quality players in that go straight into first team
Aye ok
hibsbollah
03-01-2019, 02:38 PM
Jason Cummings not getting a game for Peterborough, not apparently wanted at parent club Forest with 18 months left on his contract.
Just saying.
mcfly
03-01-2019, 02:40 PM
Aye ok
So we don’t need 3-4 first team starters ??
Aye ok then 😳
neil7908
03-01-2019, 02:46 PM
A very interesting stay from last season. 3 of the Top 4 players who made through balls were hibees who have not been replaced. Maybe that's why Flo and Mac are not doing it this year. Sorry if posted previously. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190103/bd0728009cf091f7d6ae246282092b2b.jpg
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That is absolutely staggering. I would love to compare with this season. I expect we wouldn't see a single Hibs player in the top 5.
Seems to back up the arguments that the forwards aren't solely to blame for our current form.
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 02:47 PM
That is absolutely staggering. I would love to compare with this season. I expect we wouldn't see a single Hibs player in the top 5.
Seems to back up the arguments that the forwards aren't solely to blame for our current form.
I would love to see Hibs only stats. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ambrose is top of the list.
Jim44
03-01-2019, 02:49 PM
Scott Allan appears to have turned into Lionel Messi in the last 6 months.
That lad’s done a lot of unseen work this season. :wink:
MWHIBBIES
03-01-2019, 02:51 PM
Can't think of a single reason not to sign Gunnarsson.
eastcoasthibby
03-01-2019, 02:52 PM
Each to their own but I personally don’t think the championship is much better than the top half of the Scottish Premiership.
Bit different but the money is 5- 10 times what we can offer ...
bingo70
03-01-2019, 02:53 PM
I was told by someone who is going on the plane that it is Saturday night.
Hibs have confirmed it’s Saturday they fly out so really need someone in today or tomorrow.
Showing my ignorance here but as it’s outside the EU I’m assuming there would be a visa requirement to travel? With that being the case I’d have thought anyone signing now will be too late to be on the trip?
ScottB
03-01-2019, 02:54 PM
That is absolutely staggering. I would love to compare with this season. I expect we wouldn't see a single Hibs player in the top 5.
Seems to back up the arguments that the forwards aren't solely to blame for our current form.
Absolutely, even if we just go by the Derby, our forwards have gone from getting on the end of well placed passes from those 3 last year, to being expected to compete for, mostly, aerial crosses into the box.
Last year would suggest that Kamberi and Maclaren are decent forwards with the right supply, but that supply is now totally different. None of our current options are target men, so either we need new forwards or new midfielders.
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 02:55 PM
Hibs have confirmed it’s Saturday they fly out so really need someone in today or tomorrow.
Showing my ignorance here but as it’s outside the EU I’m assuming there would be a visa requirement to travel? With that being the case I’d have thought anyone signing now will be too late to be on the trip?
if I recall correctly, last time I was there, you just buy a visa on arrival if you are from the UK....
Heisenberg
03-01-2019, 02:57 PM
How long are the team in Dubai for? If it’s only a week it’ll not make a huge difference if any new players aren’t signed before we go.
bingo70
03-01-2019, 02:58 PM
How long are the team in Dubai for? If it’s only a week it’ll not make a huge difference if any new players aren’t signed before we go.
Other than Lennon saying he wanted new players in by the time we leave.
Would suggest we’ve not got our top targets imo.
neil7908
03-01-2019, 03:05 PM
Other than Lennon saying he wanted new players in by the time we leave.
Would suggest we’ve not got our top targets imo.
I'm not too fussed if new players aren't in for Dubai. I'll start getting worried if they aren't in before the Elgin game though.
Heisenberg
03-01-2019, 03:06 PM
Other than Lennon saying he wanted new players in by the time we leave.
Would suggest we’ve not got our top targets imo.
It would suggest we haven’t managed to secure them within a few days of the window opening. Still a whole month left.
Tarrahib
03-01-2019, 03:06 PM
Can't think of a single reason not to sign Gunnarsson.
Maybe Gunnarson does not want to sign for us!
bingo70
03-01-2019, 03:07 PM
It would suggest we haven’t managed to secure them within a few days of the window opening. Still a whole month left.
It was Lennon that said he wanted them in this week.
eastcoasthibby
03-01-2019, 03:07 PM
[QUOTE=Brooster;5651355]I know. I'm disappointed I suppose. I would keep those 3 plus Gray, Horgan, Shaw and Mackie. Wouldn't be too fussed if any of the others left.[/QUOTE
Wow great example of what some people see and how different it can be when we watch our games ....I think 95% of us are disappointed in what we have seen so far this season, but your hopes of a super clear out, of, in my view some of our better players for little money, that we will be unable to spend on the quality players and positions we need sorted at this time, is just not the way to go I think. Its the wrong time to try and clear out, we need to win games after the break that keep us as high as possible in the league. So a masterplan needs to be developed for the summer not a free for all offload now.
BOB MARLEYS DUG
03-01-2019, 03:09 PM
Defoe to Rangers 18 month loan deal with two recall options...
tamig
03-01-2019, 03:11 PM
Wow great example of what some people see and how different it can be when we watch our games ....I think 95% of us are disappointed in what we have seen so far this season, but your hopes of a super clear out, of, in my view some of our better players for little money, that we will be unable to spend on the quality players and positions we need sorted at this time, is just not the way to go I think. Its the wrong time to try and clear out, we need to win games after the break that keep us as high as possible in the league. So a masterplan needs to be developed for the summer not a free for all offload now.
Exactly. The squad needs fine tuning. The addition of two or three players could make all the difference to some of the guys folk appear to be writing off already. Far too many panic merchants around. Be careful what you wish for and all that.
Heisenberg
03-01-2019, 03:12 PM
It was Lennon that said he wanted them in this week.
In an ideal world he would get them in before Saturday. It’s not always that easy though. Especially as most if not all of our targets will be under contract.
Defoe to Rangers 18 month loan deal with two recall options...
How can you have a loan for 18 months.
Guessing neither party wants to pay the full wages so split it until the end of his contract?
tamig
03-01-2019, 03:16 PM
How can you have a loan for 18 months.
Guessing neither party wants to pay the full wages so split it until the end of his contract?
Celtic did it with Roberts in his first spell with them.
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 03:17 PM
Defoe to Rangers 18 month loan deal with two recall options...
good signing that...looking forward to seeing him tbh...what a goal scorer!
silverhibee
03-01-2019, 03:17 PM
I was expecting a sarcastic response from you there but it never materialised.
Surely the fact there’s no rumours of players coming in is completely irrelevant? Probably just means we’re just being discreet.
That said, I think Lennon put pressure on the board by saying he wanted players in by the time we went to Dubai, if that doesn’t happen I’ll be concerned.
Is it Saturday or Monday we go? I’ve seen one poster saying Saturday and one Monday, both were said with absolute certainty so I don’t know who to believe?
Couple of flights out to Dubai on Saturday from Edinburgh, not sure if any on Monday though.
southsider
03-01-2019, 03:21 PM
IF, we sign new players they will be out of contract now or in the summer. SA & Jordan Jones please.
Forza Fred
03-01-2019, 03:21 PM
I was told by someone who is going on the plane that it is Saturday night.
I have just checked the Hibs press release and it confirms a Saturday departure.
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 03:21 PM
IF, we sign new players they will be out of contract now or in the summer. SA & Jordan Jones please.
he's off to Rangers is he not?
southsider
03-01-2019, 03:24 PM
good signing that...looking forward to seeing him tbh...what a goal scorer!
Is he not about 37 ? Barnes & Roy K to Celtic rings bells.
southsider
03-01-2019, 03:26 PM
he's off to Rangers is he not?
Hope not he always rips us a new one.
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 03:26 PM
Is he not about 37 ? Barnes & Roy K to Celtic rings bells.
36.
still really fit though - great work ethic - good pace
Goals in him...
It's a really big worry. I would imagine that the club are active in trying to get players in but they have to deliver on it, after the backing the support have given the club through season ticket sales, attendances, and HSL it's time for the club to deliver.
They can't let us down this window, to do so would be very damaging, IMHO.
Your last sentence is key, it would be very damaging. Having supported Hibs for 45 years I looked forward to this season with high hopes & with record everything, STs, attendance, terrific stadium, I am sure many others did as well. However I just have a nagging doubt that maybe my initial optimism has been miss placed, if that is so it could result in setting the club back many years. And we've been there before with a core 8k/9k crowds & crap football.
Hope I'm smiling come the end of Jan. 😊
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 03:31 PM
Hope not he always rips us a new one.
thing he is...regardless, he is beyond our means now....won't be coming to us
bingo70
03-01-2019, 03:32 PM
In an ideal world he would get them in before Saturday. It’s not always that easy though. Especially as most if not all of our targets will be under contract.
Neil Lennon isn’t daft, he knows that better than anyone but he still felt it appropriate to set the target of Saturday to get new players in.
Between that and the statement about the current side won’t finish top 6 I think Lennon has laid down a marker to the board to back him and do it quickly in this window.
It’s worth remembering we still have the rest of today and tomorrow so I’m not at the panicking stage just yet but if we jet off to Dubai on Saturday with no new players I suspect we’ll have a very unhappy manager.
And wait till he finds out he’ll get nowt to replace Efe with 😉
tamig
03-01-2019, 03:35 PM
Anyone heard how the big ultimatum meeting went? What colour of smoke is belching out the chimney?
Stuart93
03-01-2019, 03:39 PM
3 days in and this windows already got a familiar feeling “lennon wants players in early” “Scott Allan’s signing”...
we are hibs
03-01-2019, 03:40 PM
Wonder if Lewis Morgan or Jonny Hayes will be loaned out this month from Celtic..
SirDavidsNapper
03-01-2019, 03:41 PM
Defoe to Rangers 18 month loan deal with two recall options...
Potentially a good signing but then so were Barton, Kranjcar and Senderos. They were going to stroll the "pub league". Our top division is far better than people down south think. Defoe will need to graft and not take it for granted he'll score loads.
ThomasAgyepong
03-01-2019, 03:41 PM
Wonder if Lewis Morgan or Jonny Hayes will be loaned out this month from Celtic..
Think Hayes is slowly coming back into the Celtic team. Maybe Morgan though.
SHODAN
03-01-2019, 03:41 PM
3 days in and this windows already got a familiar feeling “lennon wants players in early” “Scott Allan’s signing”...
I've had a feeling for a while that we're not going to see many signings this window. It'll be the usual stumbling blocks and missing out on targets and the big post mortem meltdown at the end.
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 03:43 PM
Neil Lennon isn’t daft, he knows that better than anyone but he still felt it appropriate to set the target of Saturday to get new players in.
Between that and the statement about the current side won’t finish top 6 I think Lennon has laid down a marker to the board to back him and do it quickly in this window.
It’s worth remembering we still have the rest of today and tomorrow so I’m not at the panicking stage just yet but if we jet off to Dubai on Saturday with no new players I suspect we’ll have a very unhappy manager.
And wait till he finds out he’ll get nowt to replace Efe with 😉
The same thing happened before European matches when we first came back for pre-season. Dubai would be a perfect environment for new players to interact and integrate into the club/squad environment. In way it will be much easier for a player themself to join now than in the summer as the expectations and competitive for places are certainly lower.
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 03:44 PM
Think Hayes is slowly coming back into the Celtic team. Maybe Morgan though.
You would think as stop gaps if they have any serious ambition in Europe and winning the league.
ThomasAgyepong
03-01-2019, 03:44 PM
Would anyone consider Lee Wallace?
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 03:45 PM
Would anyone consider Lee Wallace?
Yep 👍
matty_f
03-01-2019, 03:45 PM
Would anyone consider Lee Wallace?
Probably that lot across the city.
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 03:46 PM
Would anyone consider Lee Wallace?
not really a priority position is it - with Lewis and Mackie in the squad...
Wilson
03-01-2019, 03:46 PM
Would anyone consider Lee Wallace?
The pitch is fine.
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 03:46 PM
Probably that lot across the city.
He would a class signing I reckon, can fill a number of positions and has a winning mentality. Wasn’t he a boyhood hibs fan also? A disgruntled hun with a point to prove sounds good to me.
ThomasAgyepong
03-01-2019, 03:47 PM
The pitch is fine.
🤣👍
ThomasAgyepong
03-01-2019, 03:48 PM
He would a class signing I reckon, can fill a number of positions and has a winning mentality. Wasn’t he a boyhood hibs fan also? A disgruntled hun with a point to prove sounds good to me.
Na boyhood Jambo mate. Would be a decent signing. But not a priority.
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 03:49 PM
Na boyhood Jambo mate. Would be a decent signing. But not a priority.
Sound 👍
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 03:50 PM
Na boyhood Jambo mate. Would be a decent signing. But not a priority.
always thought Lee Wallace was a Hibee growing up...although, others will be better placed to confirm that one way or another...
BlackSheep
03-01-2019, 03:52 PM
Defoe is a fantastic signing for Rangers and a huge step towards closing the gap on Celtic.... an interesting few months ahead.
Allant1981
03-01-2019, 03:52 PM
Na boyhood Jambo mate. Would be a decent signing. But not a priority.
Pretty sure he used to go to hibs games as a laddie, his old man is a hibs fan as well
Barney McGrew
03-01-2019, 03:56 PM
Defoe is a fantastic signing for Rangers and a huge step towards closing the gap on Celtic.... an interesting few months ahead.
On £130k a week at Bournemouth, so would imagine The The’s are picking up a huge percentage of that.
Thats a massive gamble for a club that canna balance the books, and just stinks of them doing anything to stop Celtic winning the league even if it means financial suicice for their own team :rolleyes:
ThomasAgyepong
03-01-2019, 03:58 PM
Pretty sure he used to go to hibs games as a laddie, his old man is a hibs fan as well
I must be wrong then. A lot a people saying that he was a Hibee growing up so apologies 👍
hhibs
03-01-2019, 03:58 PM
Your last sentence is key, it would be very damaging. Having supported Hibs for 45 years I looked forward to this season with high hopes & with record everything, STs, attendance, terrific stadium, I am sure many others did as well. However I just have a nagging doubt that maybe my initial optimism has been miss placed, if that is so it could result in setting the club back many years. And we've been there before with a core 8k/9k crowds & crap football.
Hope I'm smiling come the end of Jan. 😊
IMHO .
I suspect you already know the answer,in the normal way of Hibs ,we will likely continue our backward slide
Hibs boards seem to never learn nor care,bloody depressing after 6 decades of supporting the club.
STILL,I certainly could be wrong ,I hope so ,but history really is against it.
bingo70
03-01-2019, 03:59 PM
Seen it a million times before when a player comes from down south and will apparently stroll it up here, rarely happens like that though.
Defoe will probably do alright and score a few goals but he’ll be nothing special.
Past it imo.
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 04:00 PM
On £130k a week at Bournemouth, so would imagine The The’s are picking up a huge percentage of that.
Thats a massive gamble for a club that canna balance the books, and just stinks of them doing anything to stop Celtic winning the league even if it means financial suicice for their own team :rolleyes:
It’s a reported £65k he’s on with Bournemouth covering the majority of it apparently that’s why they have two recall clauses. Some deal for them! Ryan Hardie now anyone?
eastmainsmsh
03-01-2019, 04:04 PM
Would anyone like Lawrence Shankland from Ayr
ThomasAgyepong
03-01-2019, 04:05 PM
It’s a reported £65k he’s on with Bournemouth covering the majority of it apparently that’s why they have two recall clauses. Some deal for them! Ryan Hardie now anyone?
Would gladly take Hardie at Hibs. Young, tall, fast striker. Who actually looks like he wants the ball unlike our other tall, young striker...
hibbymark
03-01-2019, 04:07 PM
With the squad being there for a full week let’s not forget that new signings can jump on a flight and join the rest of the squad at anytime during the week .
Managers have said in the past that January is a really difficult time to do business. There has pretty much been a full fixture list down south over the days since the window opened as well.
Im not a happy clapper and I haven’t on many occasions enjoyed watching Hibs post Mcginn, Allan and McGeouch but our current league position whilst unacceptable behind a St Johnstone team who have just been on the best domestic run in the clubs history. A Kilmarnock side who if the league run from January to December would have won it. A rejuvenated Rangers under SG. A Livingston team which has over performed by anyone’s expectations and Aberdeen who have finished 2nd 3/4 years on the bounce and of course a Hearts team that started so well they won the league in October !
Im not papering over the cracks but our bunch of poorly recruited huddies as some on here would have you believe have just drawn with Rangers home and away and beaten Celtic at Easter Rd .
our injuries this season have been horrendous and I’d personally rather see 3 quality signings to add to a decent but imbalanced squad at anytime during January rather than the lose to Hearts and sign a new team on New Year’s Day approach that many seem to be craving .
cabbageandribs1875
03-01-2019, 04:07 PM
Na boyhood Jambo mate. Would be a decent signing. But not a priority.
hibby
mcfly
03-01-2019, 04:07 PM
Would anyone like Lawrence Shankland from Ayr
Think we have missed the boat on him sadly.
We won’t be able to afford him. Thought he was going to Swansea.
Maybe hibs are just keeping the cards close to chest and saying nowt till it’s all done.
However the fans could do with a wee lift 😃
Would anyone like Lawrence Shankland from Ayr
Would be a decent addition but wouldn’t be cheap!
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ThomasAgyepong
03-01-2019, 04:08 PM
hibby
Look at my latest reply regarding that mate 👍
ThomasAgyepong
03-01-2019, 04:09 PM
Would be a decent addition but wouldn’t be cheap!
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Their gaffer said they wanted 250k.
HappyAsHellas
03-01-2019, 04:10 PM
Na boyhood Jambo mate. Would be a decent signing. But not a priority.
100% Hibby growing up, my mate's laddie's pal - they went to the games together.
theonlywayisup
03-01-2019, 04:10 PM
Na boyhood Jambo mate. Would be a decent signing. But not a priority.
100% not a boyhood Hertz fan. A family relative told me that he was a Hibs fan when young. Then changed allegiances when he came through the ranks at Hertz.
ThomasAgyepong
03-01-2019, 04:11 PM
100% not a boyhood Hertz fan. A family relative told me that he was a Hibs fan when young. Then changed allegiances when he came through the ranks at Hertz.
I was mistaken mate, as I said.
Their gaffer said they wanted 250k.
Still a bit of cash tbh but would be worth it if he could replicate form.
Need something to give us a lift!
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I've had a feeling for a while that we're not going to see many signings this window. It'll be the usual stumbling blocks and missing out on targets and the big post mortem meltdown at the end.
Have you ever had a positive feeling? Today's effectively the 1st day of the window & you're depressed already. Cheer up, it can be good for you. 😀
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 04:15 PM
Would anyone like Lawrence Shankland from Ayr
Any player such as this, who are now sought after by a range of clubs, will command wages greater than we can pay - even if we could stump up the fee...
theonlywayisup
03-01-2019, 04:20 PM
I was mistaken mate, as I said.
No worries
SHODAN
03-01-2019, 04:20 PM
Have you ever had a positive feeling? Today's effectively the 1st day of the window & you're depressed already. Cheer up, it can be good for you. 😀
I was pretty solidly upbeat from the January 2015 window up until the end of the last one.
Any player such as this, who are now sought after by a range of clubs, will command wages greater than we can pay - even if we could stump up the fee...
I’m not so sure tbh!
If you look at SJM and how he developed. some players might see this as a positive and use us as a stepping stone to bigger and potentially better things.
Ayr will also see how we have conducted ourselves with St Mirren which may also work in our favour.
Would also depend on the player/his family etc.
All in all there is always a chance.
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SMAXXA
03-01-2019, 04:22 PM
Any player such as this, who are now sought after by a range of clubs, will command wages greater than we can pay - even if we could stump up the fee...
Would disagree with that at this stage as far as we know he’s not got any concrete offers and is on a few hundred a week. A firm offer of a few grand and a few years contract to give him security wouldn’t be unrealistic.
Billy Whizz
03-01-2019, 04:24 PM
He would a class signing I reckon, can fill a number of positions and has a winning mentality. Wasn’t he a boyhood hibs fan also? A disgruntled hun with a point to prove sounds good to me.
Think his dad is or was a Hibs season ticket holder
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 04:24 PM
Would disagree with that at this stage as far as we know he’s not got any concrete offers and is on a few hundred a week. A firm offer of a few grand and a few years contract to give him security wouldn’t be unrealistic.
fair points...pretty sure his Agent will have some demand for him already....genuinely think we have missed the boat on this one
bingo70
03-01-2019, 04:25 PM
fair points...pretty sure his Agent will have some demand for him already....genuinely think we have missed the boat on this one
It’d be great to put a bid in and actually find out.
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 04:27 PM
It’d be great to put a bid in and actually find out.
would be an exciting turn of events for sure...
Billy Whizz
03-01-2019, 04:27 PM
Would disagree with that at this stage as far as we know he’s not got any concrete offers and is on a few hundred a week. A firm offer of a few grand and a few years contract to give him security wouldn’t be unrealistic.
Lennon gets on great with McCall the Ayr Manager. Think McCall said he helped him get the Ayr gig. Wouldn’t be be surprise if McCall suggested Hibs was a good career move for him, but his head may have been turned at the money Swansea may be offering
For me it’s too big a leap from the Scottish Championship to the English one. Just ask Jason
IMHO .
I suspect you already know the answer,in the normal way of Hibs ,we will likely continue our backward slide
Hibs boards seem to never learn nor care,bloody depressing after 6 decades of supporting the club.
STILL,I certainly could be wrong ,I hope so ,but history really is against it.
Sad isn't it ?
It’d be great to put a bid in and actually find out.
I might be reading this wrong but maybe we have. I am sure Eastmainsmh has provided some decent snippets in the past regarding targets etc.
Earlydelivery
03-01-2019, 04:35 PM
Na boyhood Jambo mate. Would be a decent signing. But not a priority.
Know him and his family well ... all born and bred Hibs fans m8
bingo70
03-01-2019, 04:42 PM
I might be reading this wrong but maybe we have. I am sure Eastmainsmh has provided some decent snippets in the past regarding targets etc.
Interesting, I hadn’t noticed that.
Interesting, I hadn’t noticed that.
‘Would anyone like Lawerence Shankland from Ayr’
Posted by Eastmainsmh about 40 or so minutes ago.
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Haymaker
03-01-2019, 04:49 PM
:hyper
ThomasAgyepong
03-01-2019, 04:51 PM
Somebody on Instagram saying Tom Lockyer from Bristol Rovers. Has 5 caps for Wales and is only 24. Could be decent.
hhibs
03-01-2019, 04:54 PM
Sad isn't it ?
Indeed it is Lago,indeed it is.
calumhibee1
03-01-2019, 05:04 PM
Would anyone consider Lee Wallace?
Definitely. Although as others have said it’s not a position we’re desperate to recruit in.
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 05:13 PM
Somebody on Instagram saying Tom Lockyer from Bristol Rovers. Has 5 caps for Wales and is only 24. Could be decent.
Could be a key signing 👍
JohnM1875
03-01-2019, 05:17 PM
Somebody on Instagram saying Tom Lockyer from Bristol Rovers. Has 5 caps for Wales and is only 24. Could be decent.
Just looked him up and he's a defender. Gutted, was hoping for a box to box midfield genius! Probably means Efe is definitely gone as well.
bingo70
03-01-2019, 05:20 PM
Somebody on Instagram saying Tom Lockyer from Bristol Rovers. Has 5 caps for Wales and is only 24. Could be decent.
Who on Instagram is saying that?
SMAXXA
03-01-2019, 05:21 PM
fair points...pretty sure his Agent will have some demand for him already....genuinely think we have missed the boat on this one
Yeah your right i think the same if his agents not punting him around and trying to get him a fairly life changing deal on the back of his current performances then he needs the bullet
JimboHibs
03-01-2019, 05:39 PM
So we don’t need 3-4 first team starters ??
Aye ok then 😳
Where did can you quote me saying that ?
You just said it thicko.
Brummie_Hibs
03-01-2019, 05:40 PM
‘Would anyone like Lawerence Shankland from Ayr’
Posted by Eastmainsmh about 40 or so minutes ago.
£350,000 with 25% sell on?
£350,000 with 25% sell on?
Is this what you’ve heard??
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RedHibby
03-01-2019, 05:41 PM
If we sign anyone that we have to pay a fee for I will be totally surprised. I would like to know where the increased income from this club is going because I don’t think they are spending it.
ThomasAgyepong
03-01-2019, 05:41 PM
Who on Instagram is saying that?
Was on somebody’s story. A Hibs page.
ThomasAgyepong
03-01-2019, 05:42 PM
Was on somebody’s story. A Hibs page.
Will try and find the account
bingo70
03-01-2019, 05:43 PM
Is this what you’ve heard??
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It was on one of these nonsense hibs transfer pages on twitter, ignore.
The signing may be a possibility but ignore the fee mentioned in the post you quoted.
It was on one of these nonsense hibs transfer pages on twitter, ignore.
The signing may be a possibility but ignore the fee mentioned in the post you quoted.
Cheers Bingo. Would suspect any fee would be undisclosed!
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mcfly
03-01-2019, 05:48 PM
Where did can you quote me saying that ?
You just said it thicko.
Read out loud what you just sent. Doesn’t even make sense
I think you’ve proved to all who the thicko is.
👏👏
Scotty Leither
03-01-2019, 05:54 PM
If we sign anyone that we have to pay a fee for I will be totally surprised. I would like to know where the increased income from this club is going because I don’t think they are spending it.
We'll be the last to know, that's for sure.
If we're saving up for the indoor arena at the expense of the team it kind of puts to bed the no more infrastructure line, and IMO would currently be an act of supreme folly when the team is in dire need of some major surgery and the fans are choking on some good news.
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 05:55 PM
If we sign anyone that we have to pay a fee for I will be totally surprised. I would like to know where the increased income from this club is going because I don’t think they are spending it.
Good old infrastructure. It certainly worked the last time so I can’t see any problems developing 👍
Ive a feeling the board will tell Lennon he spent enough in the summer and it’s not worked so loans will happen.
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 05:57 PM
We'll be the last to know, that's for sure.
If we're saving up for the indoor arena at the expense of the team it kind of puts to bed the no more infrastructure line, and IMO would currently be an act of supreme folly when the team is in dire need of some major surgery and the fans are choking on some good news.
2007/2008 all over again.
Speedway
03-01-2019, 06:02 PM
2007/2008 all over again.
I was just thinking that.
flash
03-01-2019, 06:06 PM
Some amount of wind and pish in the posts above this one.
brianmc
03-01-2019, 06:07 PM
Some amount of wind and pish in the posts above this one.
Yep. And more to follow ...
Speedway
03-01-2019, 06:07 PM
Some amount of wind and pish in the posts above this one.
How are the pre-Dubai quality signings with pace that the manager has publicly requested coming along?
The_Horde
03-01-2019, 06:08 PM
Some amount of wind and pish in the posts above this one.
This. It's like the final 20 of the derby all over again, loads of action but you never felt like anything was coming.
RedHibby
03-01-2019, 06:09 PM
Yes, that horrible feeling of dejavu is haunting me.
Joe6-2
03-01-2019, 06:10 PM
If the trip to Dubai is sat I’m expecting some signings this afternoon or tomorrow.
This is such an important transfer window for us - got to get it right.
We must have money to spend - I’m expecting 3-4 quality players in that go straight into first team
Surely Allan should be a done deal by now, if we are getting him
flash
03-01-2019, 06:12 PM
How are the pre-Dubai quality signings with pace that the manager has publicly requested coming along?
No idea.
Joe6-2
03-01-2019, 06:14 PM
On £130k a week at Bournemouth, so would imagine The The’s are picking up a huge percentage of that.
Thats a massive gamble for a club that canna balance the books, and just stinks of them doing anything to stop Celtic winning the league even if it means financial suicice for their own team :rolleyes:
Hope so!
Speedway
03-01-2019, 06:19 PM
No idea.
Precisely
HibbyAndy
03-01-2019, 06:21 PM
That Dharma guy and Jim White are absolutely creaming themselves of Defoe signing , Seriously its disgusting , For that reason alone i Hope Celtic finish 20 points clear !
Brightside
03-01-2019, 06:21 PM
36.
still really fit though - great work ethic - good pace
Goals in him...
Isnt he on 68k a week? how on earth can Rangers pay for that?
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 06:22 PM
Isnt he on 68k a week? how on earth can Rangers pay for that?
Bewildering that isn’t it - even if they are paying half of it ...crazy numbers for our league
Ozyhibby
03-01-2019, 06:23 PM
No way are new Rangers paying anywhere close to that.
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Connollys11
03-01-2019, 06:24 PM
Bewildering that isn’t it - even if they are paying half of it ...crazy numbers for our league
They'll be cheating again it's the only way they know.
Billy Whizz
03-01-2019, 06:27 PM
Isnt he on 68k a week? how on earth can Rangers pay for that?
What’s even more galling is Bournemouth have a 12,000 seater stadium, and can pay wages of £68K per week. It’s obscene
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 06:28 PM
Bewildering that isn’t it - even if they are paying half of it ...crazy numbers for our league
Rangers will pay 20% of that Max.
Scotty Leither
03-01-2019, 06:28 PM
Other clubs are making moves already. It'd be nice to be first for once to have one/two players in the door, but I daresay we'll take our time, ask the fans to be patient, etc.
It'd be good to have two/three players in for the Elgin game, scouted, fitness levels checked out, signed and ready to play straight away.
I sincerely hope that is indeed the case and that can spark us to kick on in January and beyond, but the old radio silence button seems to be getting pressed again; i'd love to be proved wrong but right now this lack of activity or even talk of a new signing doesn't bode well.
No way are new Rangers paying anywhere close to that.
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Talk is they have a debt of £25 million and this is before they sign anyone this window!
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bigwheel
03-01-2019, 06:30 PM
Rangers will pay 20% of that Max.
What makes you say that? when they have paid much more than that recently - over 30k per week for Alves last season for example ?
madhatter
03-01-2019, 06:30 PM
We'll be the last to know, that's for sure.
If we're saving up for the indoor arena at the expense of the team it kind of puts to bed the no more infrastructure line, and IMO would currently be an act of supreme folly when the team is in dire need of some major surgery and the fans are choking on some good news.
This window is massive, if we finish bottom six it won’t go down well with fans...
Fans are making sacrifices to get ST and making donations to HSL etc. I’m already considering what I should do next season, I’m sure others are as well. Money is tight, I’d be unhappy finding out I’m turning up every week to watch the current rubbish so we can get more facility work done...
You need sporting success to develop as a club, not buildings. Finishing below clubs that still train on fields or at Universities is not great for fan confidence. Huge window.
flash
03-01-2019, 06:31 PM
Precisely
Eh?
Brightside
03-01-2019, 06:31 PM
£350,000 with 25% sell on?
Thats 100% bollix.
Juice-Terry
03-01-2019, 06:32 PM
I asked an impeccable source about our interest in Gunnarsson. He replied "Niklas has had a few offers but nothing over the line yet. He's knocked back offers from clubs in Denmark, Norway, and Sweden." I asked if there had been an offer from Hibs and he replied, cryptically, "No offer of a contract."
theonlywayisup
03-01-2019, 06:32 PM
Can we keep this thread to Hibs transfer talk? :greengrin
Greenworld
03-01-2019, 06:32 PM
How are the pre-Dubai quality signings with pace that the manager has publicly requested coming along?The problem has got complicated if Effe and possibly kamberi move then it's really hard to see how you sign enough quality to replace all the players we need .
You would be looking at 5 players to come in.
It's a nightmare position we should not be in .
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JimboHibs
03-01-2019, 06:33 PM
Read out loud what you just sent. Doesn’t even make sense
I think you’ve proved to all who the thicko is.
👏👏
I give up keep playing fantasy football in that gap between your ears thicko 👍
Joe6-2
03-01-2019, 06:33 PM
The problem has got complicated if Effe and possibly kamberi move then it's really hard to see how you sign enough quality to replace all the players we need .
You would be looking at 5 players to come in.
It's a nightmare position we should not be in .
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True, but no sign of anybody coming in
Juice-Terry
03-01-2019, 06:34 PM
Maybe the offer to Gunnarsson is to come over to train with us - or possibly even to go to Dubai?
flash
03-01-2019, 06:35 PM
True, but no sign of anybody coming in
FFS should the club tell us who they are trying to bring in?
Joe6-2
03-01-2019, 06:36 PM
FFS should the club tell us who they are trying to bring in?
Hardly, but if Lennon wants them for Saturday, you'd think at least one deal by now! ffs!
Nicho87
03-01-2019, 06:36 PM
Can see the usual end of month race to sign some dross.
bigwheel
03-01-2019, 06:37 PM
True, but no sign of anybody coming in
Come on - there is no doubt the club will be very active trying to get 2-3 guys in ...let’s be patient.
Greenworld
03-01-2019, 06:37 PM
True, but no sign of anybody coming inYes I know to be frank it's a shambles the club should be in a position when they only need to replace or recruit 2 players mid season .
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Scotty Leither
03-01-2019, 06:38 PM
FFS should the club tell us who they are trying to bring in?
Of course not...but maybe they could have a decent signing lined up in the early days of the window for once to try and generate a bit of enthusiasm about their intentions?
Callum_62
03-01-2019, 06:39 PM
Of course not...but maybe they could have a decent signing lined up in the early days of the window for once to try and generate a bit of enthusiasm about their intentions?
We are always told to be patient - i wish we just went out and got our target in the door early
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flash
03-01-2019, 06:39 PM
Of course not...but maybe they could have a decent signing lined up in the early days of the window for once to try and generate a bit of enthusiasm about their intentions?
Who cares when we get them as long as they come?
Greenworld
03-01-2019, 06:39 PM
Come on - there is no doubt the club will be very active trying to get 2-3 guys in ...let’s be patient.2 - 3 is not enough though if Effe moves on and kamberi moves on ( big if) we are looking at needing 4-5 players
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bigwheel
03-01-2019, 06:41 PM
2 - 3 is not enough though if Effe moves on and kamberi moves on ( big if) we are looking at needing 4-5 players
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[emoji23]. Yes, if we lose two key players we will need more in ...[emoji106]
Scotty Leither
03-01-2019, 06:45 PM
Who cares when we get them as long as they come?
It would be good to get players in now, because we sure as hell need them, they would be able to train with their new team-mates at this training camp, it would give a lift to the fans, and it would break the mould of our recent m.o. of signing here today-gone today players who contribute nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Getting two decent, worthwhile signings in for the Elgin game will hopefully give the whole place a lift and let us cut loose and score a few goals in that game, as well as getting the New Year off to a better start than the last one ended on.
2 - 3 is not enough though if Effe moves on and kamberi moves on ( big if) we are looking at needing 4-5 players
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We were already needing 3 or 4 with hyndman. Now he's away..so we need at least 4, preferably 5 quality signings to push on for me. And we should use this window to build for next season aswell if we can. Even if there is a couple of pre contracts lined up. I wouldn't renew the likes of Mcgregor or David gray's contracts, unless they had a great injury free second half of the season, no good when they can't stay fit. Right now we need 2 midfielders, one wide man, a striker and someone to come in and make right back theirs!
Greenworld
03-01-2019, 06:49 PM
£350,000 with 25% sell on?No chance I'm sure his contract is up end of this season ?
He can sign for who he wants now or a small fee would get him now .
Do you not find it strange no one has moved for him though before now
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madhatter
03-01-2019, 06:50 PM
Who cares when we get them as long as they come?
Like Milligan and Agyepong you mean? Or are you referring to Mavrias and Nelom? Waiting brings quality doesn’t it?
I understand us needing to be patient but why are we virtually always the slowest to get things moving even though we need new players desperately?
The important thing with Hibs is who rather than when but sadly we seem to miss out on players then get strange loans which tend to be unprepared and I get a sense of them being a means for short term relief for fans.
Imagine announcement tomorrow from Aberdeen - “Scott Allan signs a 3 year contract after Aberdeen agreed an undisclosed fee with Celtic”. Two weeks later we reveal Lewis Morgan on loan to try to alleviate the rage from fans...
Leith Green
03-01-2019, 06:52 PM
I’m no big fan of Rod Petrie or our boards transfer dealings in the past. But Im struggling to see how it is their fault regarding our recent recruitment, we cannot go out and replace a 3 million pound player like for like or spend a million on a player and pay say 15k a week wages Lennon will have asked for the board to sign mallan , milligan , kamberi , horgan etc and i certainly dont see them as having been cheap options , they probably didnt come ceaply. Im looking at things and im thinking as much as i like Lennon we are facing a second january in a row replacing his summer signings. Lets not forget that the board backed him last january in replacing some of the guff he had just signed.
bingo70
03-01-2019, 06:54 PM
Who cares when we get them as long as they come?
Neil Lennon.
He specifically said he wanted new players in for the trip to Dubai.
tonyrougier123
03-01-2019, 06:56 PM
If niklas gunnarsson is available it would be criminal if hibs are not even trying to sign him!
Lee Marvin
03-01-2019, 06:58 PM
I’m no big fan of Rod Petrie or our boards transfer dealings in the past. But Im struggling to see how it is their fault regarding our recent recruitment, we cannot go out and replace a 3 million pound player like for like or spend a million on a player and pay say 15k a week wages Lennon will have asked for the board to sign mallan , milligan , kamberi , horgan etc and i certainly dont see them as having been cheap options , they probably didnt come ceaply. Im looking at things and im thinking as much as i like Lennon we are facing a second january in a row replacing his summer signings. Lets not forget that the board backed him last january in replacing some of the guff he had just signed.
The board are bottom of the list of reasons we are 8th in the league out of Lennon, injuries, the players and the board.
Last by some distance
Weegreenman
03-01-2019, 07:01 PM
What player would want to come to Hibs and be managed by Neil Lennon after the way he’s treated Kamberi? Just saying :cb
Gmack7
03-01-2019, 07:04 PM
What player would want to come to Hibs and be managed by Neil Lennon after the way he’s treated Kamberi? Just saying :cb
Ibrahimovic 😎
Hi Heid Yin
03-01-2019, 07:11 PM
What player would want to come to Hibs and be managed by Neil Lennon after the way he’s treated Kamberi? Just saying :cb
What club would want Kamberi and his "down-tools" attitude and his short-changing his manager and team-mates?
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 07:11 PM
Ibrahimovic 😎
Good shout, Zlatan wouldn’t take the **** Kameri has 👍
Leith Green
03-01-2019, 07:12 PM
What club would want Kamberi and his "down-tools" attitude and his short-changing his manager and team-mates?
But whats changed his attitude and performances from him being a class act last season?
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 07:12 PM
What club would want Kamberi and his "down-tools" attitude and his short-changing his manager and team-mates?
Probably a club with a side that has a hint of creativity in it which is getting severely overlooked in terms of slating the forward.
Stuart93
03-01-2019, 07:15 PM
£350,000 with 25% sell on?
Yep baws, posted by Hibernian Fans ITK on Twitter, deary me
houstonhibbee
03-01-2019, 07:15 PM
Maybe the offer to Gunnarsson is to come over to train with us - or possibly even to go to Dubai?
According to EEN we haven't made any approaches...…………..
Leith Green
03-01-2019, 07:16 PM
At the end of the day we have lost brilliant players who were signed by the same board but different manager with less of a budget. Lennons replacement signings look terrible in comparison
What’s even more galling is Bournemouth have a 12,000 seater stadium, and can pay wages of £68K per week. It’s obscene
Big shiny new one on the way.
Weegreenman
03-01-2019, 07:41 PM
What club would want Kamberi and his "down-tools" attitude and his short-changing his manager and team-mates?
Bristol City rumoured to be interested :cb
Unseen work
03-01-2019, 07:45 PM
I was a fan of Gunnarson first time round but feel like some people are remembering auch better player than he actually was.
would he get a game ahead of McGregor Hanlon and Porteous? Maybe McGregor as he’s getting on a bit but Lennon seems a big fan. Hanlon has a mistake in him but also appears to be a favourite
Hibs90
03-01-2019, 07:53 PM
Hibs are always so slow when it comes to transfers. Gets on my tits.
SloopJB
03-01-2019, 07:53 PM
Hibs are playing in the wrong shade of green, no wonder we are garbage.
( think I'm getting the hang of this forum)
SquashedFrogg
03-01-2019, 08:00 PM
But whats changed his attitude and performances from him being a class act last season?
A perm contract and poor attitude? Lack of ability? The player has to take responsibility. He plays for the club, not the manager.
The Modfather
03-01-2019, 08:05 PM
A perm contract and poor attitude? Lack of ability? The player has to take responsibility. He plays for the club, not the manager.
The club is also bigger than the manager and he has a duty to do what is best for the team ahead of any personal grievances he may have with with certain players.
Leith Green
03-01-2019, 08:06 PM
A perm contract and poor attitude? Lack of ability? The player has to take responsibility. He plays for the club, not the manager.
There was no lack of ability last season , so disagree on that one. His attitude was fine until he was being asked to feed off of scraps from a poor midfield signed by lennon and the team lumping high balls , instructed by lennon because his team lack creativity
bingo70
03-01-2019, 08:12 PM
There was no lack of ability last season , so disagree on that one. His attitude was fine until he was being asked to feed off of scraps from a poor midfield signed by lennon and the team lumping high balls , instructed by lennon because his team lack creativity
I agree.
I’ve not seen anything wrong with Kamberis attitude and I think if Lennon didn’t mention it then it wouldn’t be an issue on here.
What sums it up for me was Kamberi getting the blame after the livi game. We were so bad going forward in the first half it was unreal, second half he came on and we were instantly much better. Obviously Flo missed the penalty but that could happen to anyone and he gave the ball away before their goal but to blame a striker for losing the ball 70 yards from goal is very very harsh imo.
Shrekko
03-01-2019, 08:15 PM
What player would want to come to Hibs and be managed by Neil Lennon after the way he’s treated Kamberi? Just saying :cb
This is just getting embarrassing.
Hi Heid Yin
03-01-2019, 08:17 PM
A perm contract and poor attitude? Lack of ability? The player has to take responsibility. He plays for the club, not the manager.
:agree::agree: That's called being "professional"
Leith Green
03-01-2019, 08:19 PM
I agree.
I’ve not seen anything wrong with Kamberis attitude and I think if Lennon didn’t mention it then it wouldn’t be an issue on here.
What sums it up for me was Kamberi getting the blame after the livi game. We were so bad going forward in the first half it was unreal, second half he came on and we were instantly much better. Obviously Flo missed the penalty but that could happen to anyone and he gave the ball away before their goal but to blame a striker for losing the ball 70 yards from goal is very very harsh imo.
There are more stark failings in our recent starting 11s than Kamberi. Mallan constantly losing possession and teams countering us from it , milligan being slower than a week in jail , hyndman and horgans end product. Its our midfield that is the problem , clear as day. Slow , ponderous , and no quality in possession
tamig
03-01-2019, 08:19 PM
What club would want Kamberi and his "down-tools" attitude and his short-changing his manager and team-mates?
So you’re going with the implied view of your namesake as per usual. Kamberi hasn’t hit the heights of last season but I’ve not seen evidence to suggest any downing of tools - as you put it.
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 08:19 PM
:agree::agree: That's called being "professional"
Lennon seemed happy enough sticking by all the “unprofessional” players that got Mowbray the sack when he took over at Celtic?
SquashedFrogg
03-01-2019, 08:29 PM
Lennon seemed happy enough sticking by all the “unprofessional” players that got Mowbray the sack when he took over at Celtic?
Jesus. Your dislike for Lennon has hit new depths. How far back in time are you prepared to go to lay the boot in?
Unreal.
The 90+2
03-01-2019, 08:35 PM
Jesus. Your dislike for Lennon has hit new depths. How far back in time are you prepared to go to lay the boot in?
Unreal.
Your slating players for being unprofessional and not working hard enough for the manager (in your opinion) yet it’s okay for Lennon to work with completely unprofessional players who got another manager the sack basically? I can’t remember much ripping of players for being unprofessional when he took over at Celtic?
I’ve no dislike of Lennon, he had two very good seasons with us. I think it’s not the best way to go about business ripping players all the time for not giving 100% especially when he’s threatened to walk times - hardly 100 % commitment to the club is that the players seemingly should be playing for is it?
tamig
03-01-2019, 08:43 PM
Other clubs are making moves already. It'd be nice to be first for once to have one/two players in the door, but I daresay we'll take our time, ask the fans to be patient, etc.
It'd be good to have two/three players in for the Elgin game, scouted, fitness levels checked out, signed and ready to play straight away.
I sincerely hope that is indeed the case and that can spark us to kick on in January and beyond, but the old radio silence button seems to be getting pressed again; i'd love to be proved wrong but right now this lack of activity or even talk of a new signing doesn't bode well.
Think your being a bit harsh with that radio silence comment. What other clubs are telling all and sundry about their transfer dealings? How are you honestly expecting Hibs to act? A bit of realism required bud.
SquashedFrogg
03-01-2019, 08:53 PM
Your slating players for being unprofessional and not working hard enough for the manager (in your opinion) yet it’s okay for Lennon to work with completely unprofessional players who got another manager the sack basically? I can’t remember much ripping of players for being unprofessional when he took over at Celtic?
I’ve no dislike of Lennon, he had two very good seasons with us. I think it’s not the best way to go about business ripping players all the time for not giving 100% especially when he’s threatened to walk times - hardly 100 % commitment to the club is that the players seemingly should be playing for is it?
No. I originally answered a question on a post with possible answers. An alternate view if you like.
I get that you have issues with his time at Celtic. I tend not to bother what happens at other clubs. Especially 8 years ago.
Tornadoes70
03-01-2019, 09:03 PM
So you’re going with the implied view of your namesake as per usual. Kamberi hasn’t hit the heights of last season but I’ve not seen evidence to suggest any downing of tools - as you put it.
Lenny must have thought he had too or wouldn't have singled him out for direct criticism to be fair mate.
Bar the Celtic goal he's been like the proverbial headless chicken this season.
I'd happily see the club pay £300 000 for the goal machine that is Lawrence Shankland.
Cue outrage.
:greengrin
Mon the Cabbage!!!
Blocks Biloxi
03-01-2019, 09:08 PM
I've not seen this posted elsewhere, so apologies if it has been.
The graph of through balls during the 2017/8 season from this article (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46574062) represents a huge factor in Kamberi's, and by extension Hibs', struggles this season.
It's no surprise to most of us, but I didn't realise the true extent of what we've lost compared with other PL sides.
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