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Greenworld
12-01-2019, 08:04 AM
Maybe we will get movement soon if this article is true .
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Hibbyradge
12-01-2019, 08:05 AM
No one heard anything at all? Even a believable rumour!!
Apart from Allan, Morgan and Cummings?
Nope, not a peep.
Greenworld
12-01-2019, 08:05 AM
I fancy mulumbu as well as allan that would give us great options In midfield
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BlackSheep
12-01-2019, 08:07 AM
Rodgers has made it very clear which of his players he is willing to let go, whether on loan or permanent deals. I’m sure Celtic will be waiting for any firm offers to come in for those players before accepting loans or perhaps ‘undervalued’ offers. This is why we may not see Allan until late in the window unfortunately.
I think of all the players Rodgers is willing to let go, Morgan is one he wants to keep so a loan deal may be negotiated sooner rather than later.
Mulumbu is one I can see them letting go permanently as well, he was a free signing so no big investment but if they can get a fee then I’m sure they wouldn’t hold tight.
flash
12-01-2019, 08:11 AM
Why would Celtic bother if he signs a pre contract with someone though? They aren't going to offer him a new contract
Because they want him off the books now. The antipathy between the clubs is the only reason he isn't here already. The only reason he would use a PCA would be to force his way out in January.
BlackSheep
12-01-2019, 08:19 AM
Well looks like Celtic are going to release Allan according to an article.
Hibernian are keen on Morgan, Bradford City want Hendry, who has suffered a dreadful loss of form after being picked by Scotland following his move to Dundee, while the experienced Mulumbu was unable to reproduce his performances from last season when he was a sensation at Kilmarnock.
The almost forgotten about Scott Allan will have his contract torn up with Hibs favourite to sign the midfielder.
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Where are u reading this article?
SMAXXA
12-01-2019, 08:21 AM
Because they want him off the books now. The antipathy between the clubs is the only reason he isn't here already. The only reason he would use a PCA would be to force his way out in January.
I find it interesting that people assume there is an issue between the clubs over the McGinn deal, from what I would believe I don’t think it’s the case
Allant1981
12-01-2019, 08:21 AM
Because they want him off the books now. The antipathy between the clubs is the only reason he isn't here already. The only reason he would use a PCA would be to force his way out in January.
If he did sign a pre contract with us then I'm sure they would be easy to deal with to get him out now
flash
12-01-2019, 08:28 AM
I find it interesting that people assume there is an issue between the clubs over the McGinn deal, from what I would believe I don’t think it’s the case
From what I was told it is 100% the case. Not suggesting the clubs will never do business but there is a real problem at boardroom level. Goes right back to the Steven Fletcher incident where Petrie wouldn't answer the phone to Lawwell.
w pilton hibby
12-01-2019, 08:31 AM
Where are u reading this article?
https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/celtic/news/17349047.brendan-rodgers-to-send-his-fringe-players-out-on-loan-but-they-can-still-save-their-celtic-careers/
supersauzee
12-01-2019, 08:50 AM
Where are u reading this article?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/01/12/celtic-boss-reportedly-about-to-give-scot
BlackSheep
12-01-2019, 08:52 AM
https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/celtic/news/17349047.brendan-rodgers-to-send-his-fringe-players-out-on-loan-but-they-can-still-save-their-celtic-careers/
Awesome thanks
Interesting that Rodgers mentions those who didn’t travel are closer to deals... I’m right in saying Allan didn’t travel did he?
Blaster
12-01-2019, 09:00 AM
From what I was told it is 100% the case. Not suggesting the clubs will never do business but there is a real problem at boardroom level. Goes right back to the Steven Fletcher incident where Petrie wouldn't answer the phone to Lawwell.
I think the amount of loan players we’ve had since then maybe means the business aspect ain’t too bad. Stokes, Ambrose, Henderson, Allan etc
I do think Lawwell and Petrie have a real personal issue with each other though
Souter96Mac
12-01-2019, 09:04 AM
Awesome thanks
Interesting that Rodgers mentions those who didn’t travel are closer to deals... I’m right in saying Allan didn’t travel did he?
No he didn't
SirDavidsNapper
12-01-2019, 09:14 AM
I find it interesting that people assume there is an issue between the clubs over the McGinn deal, from what I would believe I don’t think it’s the case
I don't believe it either and said so at the time. Hibs accepted their offer and he chose Villa. Celtic wouldn't cut off their nose to spite their face. They'll be wanting other Hibs players in the future so won't ostracise themselves from that.
SouthMoroccoStu
12-01-2019, 09:18 AM
https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/celtic/news/17349047.brendan-rodgers-to-send-his-fringe-players-out-on-loan-but-they-can-still-save-their-celtic-careers/
Nice reading within...
“The almost forgotten about Scott Allan will have his contract torn up with Hibs favourite to sign the midfielder.”
Juniper Greens
12-01-2019, 09:30 AM
I can't see Celtic making a deal to pay off Allan just to help us out, they were messing us around in the summer on wages for a loan deal, why would they do us a favour now, if we want Allan now, we'll have to pay or wait.
But, and the numbers are made up here.
Say Allan is on 8k a week at Celtic.
We offer him 4k per week.
Celtic, rather than paying Allan off in full, might agree with him to pay him off in half or similar, as Allan wouldntiss out financially from it. So...Celtic save 4k per week in that example. I think it might happen, but like others have said, it's just trying to find that comprise
jeffers
12-01-2019, 09:36 AM
But, and the numbers are made up here.
Say Allan is on 8k a week at Celtic.
We offer him 4k per week.
Celtic, rather than paying Allan off in full, might agree with him to pay him off in half or similar, as Allan wouldntiss out financially from it. So...Celtic save 4k per week in that example. I think it might happen, but like others have said, it's just trying to find that comprise
Agree with that and with J-C. Celtic may well pay him off but because it suits them to get him off their wage bill, not to do us any favours.
jacomo
12-01-2019, 09:36 AM
I can't see Celtic making a deal to pay off Allan just to help us out, they were messing us around in the summer on wages for a loan deal, why would they do us a favour now, if we want Allan now, we'll have to pay or wait.
No but a deal now to get him off their books could certainly work from Celtc’s point of view.
jacomo
12-01-2019, 09:37 AM
Because in Scotland with domestic transfers you can’t officially sign a pre contract until 30 days before the end of the previous contract. If Allan’s contact finishes end of June we couldn’t officially offer a contract and register it wil the SFA until the end of May.
We could agree on principle with him but nothing stopping another team down south coming in for him between now and then.
That doesn’t answer my question, otherwise why did Kamara sign a pca with Sevco?
Juniper Greens
12-01-2019, 09:40 AM
That doesn’t answer my question, otherwise why did Kamara sign a pca with Sevco?
Maybe to force a move?
The reality of being the best player at a small club and winning a move is different to being surplus at a large club and wanting to move to a smaller club I suppose
But, and the numbers are made up here.
Say Allan is on 8k a week at Celtic.
We offer him 4k per week.
Celtic, rather than paying Allan off in full, might agree with him to pay him off in half or similar, as Allan wouldntiss out financially from it. So...Celtic save 4k per week in that example. I think it might happen, but like others have said, it's just trying to find that comprise
Agree with that and with J-C. Celtic may well pay him off but because it suits them to get him off their wage bill, not to do us any favours.
No but a deal now to get him off their books could certainly work from Celtc’s point of view.
The only reason Celtic will do a deal with Allan to get him off their books will be purely a financial one and nothing to do with us, Rodgers has stated they have far too many players not contributing and he needs players out if any are to come in, if Allan strikes a deal to get released it'll benefit us but it's mainly benefiting Celtic.
Borderhibbie76
12-01-2019, 09:48 AM
Possibly and I would be delighted with both but NL said we were after 1 or 2 strikers and also mentioned 3 or 4 coming in which would mean only 1 more signing outside of strikers. I think he also mentioned about signing players with more robustness. Thought it was in relation to our midfield (likely a more physical striker too) but just my take on it.The 3 or 4 may have been excluding Ryan Gauld right enough.That would have to mean the 3 or 4 does not include this keeper that's on trial?? I'm still a bit unsure why we are after a keeper tbh when we have Bogdan and Rocky u less 1 or both are away in Summer?? We deffo need a box to box/ ball carrying midfielder in and 2 strikers imo (or at the very least 1 plus a winger)
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jeffers
12-01-2019, 09:56 AM
That would have to mean the 3 or 4 does not include this keeper that's on trial?? I'm still a bit unsure why we are after a keeper tbh when we have Bogdan and Rocky u less 1 or both are away in Summer?? We deffo need a box to box/ ball carrying midfielder in and 2 strikers imo (or at the very least 1 plus a winger)
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I'm hoping the numbers quoted were before Martin Boyle's injury was fully assessed. While I'm in total agreement with you about a box to box to midfielder I just don't see it happening especially with the other midfielders we are being linked to. Only way I could see it happening was if we moved on one of the players we signed in the summer.
Hibbyradge
12-01-2019, 09:57 AM
That would have to mean the 3 or 4 does not include this keeper that's on trial?? I'm still a bit unsure why we are after a keeper tbh when we have Bogdan and Rocky u less 1 or both are away in Summer?? We deffo need a box to box/ ball carrying midfielder in and 2 strikers imo (or at the very least 1 plus a winger)
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Laidlaw has left.
Eyrie
12-01-2019, 09:57 AM
That would have to mean the 3 or 4 does not include this keeper that's on trial?? I'm still a bit unsure why we are after a keeper tbh when we have Bogdan and Rocky u less 1 or both are away in Summer?? We deffo need a box to box/ ball carrying midfielder in and 2 strikers imo (or at the very least 1 plus a winger)
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The other thing about the Spurs keeper is the implication that Dabrowski isn't up to being out third/fourth choice keeper.
How long are Marciano and Laidlaw out for?
Borderhibbie76
12-01-2019, 10:01 AM
Laidlaw has left.He's not left as yet but been told to try and find a new club
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Borderhibbie76
12-01-2019, 10:01 AM
The other thing about the Spurs keeper is the implication that Dabrowski isn't up to being out third/fourth choice keeper.
How long are Marciano and Laidlaw out for?Don't think we've been told How long either are out for which may be the reason we are looking at another keeper
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Hibbyradge
12-01-2019, 10:03 AM
He's not left as yet but been told to try and find a new club
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Exactly, so we need a replacement.
Greenworld
12-01-2019, 10:04 AM
The only reason Celtic will do a deal with Allan to get him off their books will be purely a financial one and nothing to do with us, Rodgers has stated they have far too many players not contributing and he needs players out if any are to come in, if Allan strikes a deal to get released it'll benefit us but it's mainly benefiting Celtic.Can a club write of against tax players severance pay ?
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jeffers
12-01-2019, 10:06 AM
Exactly, so we need a replacement.
Maybe this Spurs keeper is being looked at more with a view to next season. I'd be amazed if we have both Bogdan and Marciano at the club next season.
Borderhibbie76
12-01-2019, 10:06 AM
Exactly, so we need a replacement.Only of Rocky is out for a length of time surely?? Otherwise we have Bogdan Rocky and dabrowski who regardless is fine for a 3rd choice keeper
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jeffers
12-01-2019, 10:10 AM
Only of Rocky is out for a length of time surely?? Otherwise we have Bogdan Rocky and dabrowski who regardless is fine for a 3rd choice keeper
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Maybe wrong but I thought I read that Bogdan wasn't fully fit. Plus if we do move Laudlaw on and sign the Spurs keeper we end up with the same numbers we currently have.
bingo70
12-01-2019, 10:16 AM
Maybe wrong but I thought I read that Bogdan wasn't fully fit. Plus if we do move Laudlaw on and sign the Spurs keeper we end up with the same numbers we currently have.
I think we recalled Dabrowski form a loan didn’t we? I assumenthe plan is to get him back out on loan again so the three keepers we have available will be Bogdan, Marciano and the spurs guy. As Marciano is currently injured and Bogdan has a history of injury problems this probably makes sense.
jeffers
12-01-2019, 10:25 AM
I think we recalled Dabrowski form a loan didn’t we? I assumenthe plan is to get him back out on loan again so the three keepers we have available will be Bogdan, Marciano and the spurs guy. As Marciano is currently injured and Bogdan has a history of injury problems this probably makes sense.
That all makes total sense Bingo.
Borderhibbie76
12-01-2019, 10:29 AM
I think we recalled Dabrowski form a loan didn’t we? I assumenthe plan is to get him back out on loan again so the three keepers we have available will be Bogdan, Marciano and the spurs guy. As Marciano is currently injured and Bogdan has a history of injury problems this probably makes sense.Yeah that does make sense Bingo
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SloopJB
12-01-2019, 10:39 AM
The only reason Celtic will do a deal with Allan to get him off their books will be purely a financial one and nothing to do with us, Rodgers has stated they have far too many players not contributing and he needs players out if any are to come in, if Allan strikes a deal to get released it'll benefit us but it's mainly benefiting Celtic.
I'm sure I read somewhere there was the potential for a 'no deal' exit?
Not sure what the implications are but some folk are getting there knickers in a twist about it.
Think it might only apply to right and left wingers as opposed to midfielders though.
coldingham hibs
12-01-2019, 10:55 AM
From Celtic Quick News Mag: LEWIS MORGAN is heading for Hibs after Sunderland boss Jack Ross opened the door for Neil Lennon.
The 22-year-old winger was linked with a loan switch to team up with his former St Mirren gaffer on Wearside for the remainder of the season.
Vault Boy
12-01-2019, 11:06 AM
From Celtic Quick News Mag: LEWIS MORGAN is heading for Hibs after Sunderland boss Jack Ross opened the door for Neil Lennon.
The 22-year-old winger was linked with a loan switch to team up with his former St Mirren gaffer on Wearside for the remainder of the season.
Would be an excellent signing. Hoping this is true, I'm a big fan of Celtic loanees...
H18 SFR
12-01-2019, 11:11 AM
From Celtic Quick News Mag: LEWIS MORGAN is heading for Hibs after Sunderland boss Jack Ross opened the door for Neil Lennon.
The 22-year-old winger was linked with a loan switch to team up with his former St Mirren gaffer on Wearside for the remainder of the season.
What do they mean jack ross opened the door?
04Sauzee
12-01-2019, 11:15 AM
From Celtic Quick News Mag: LEWIS MORGAN is heading for Hibs after Sunderland boss Jack Ross opened the door for Neil Lennon.
The 22-year-old winger was linked with a loan switch to team up with his former St Mirren gaffer on Wearside for the remainder of the season.
I haven't heard off Celtic quick news mag, I'm guessing it's a fans mag?
The 90+2
12-01-2019, 11:19 AM
What do they mean jack ross opened the door?
Sunderland looked elsewhere or weren’t really interested was my gathering.
Souter96Mac
12-01-2019, 11:23 AM
Just seen the full quote on twitter. Ross saying Morgan is not a player they have been in contact with.
w pilton hibby
12-01-2019, 11:32 AM
What do they mean jack ross opened the door?
https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/morgan-move-revelation/
tamig
12-01-2019, 11:32 AM
I'm sure I read somewhere there was the potential for a 'no deal' exit?
Not sure what the implications are but some folk are getting there knickers in a twist about it.
Think it might only apply to right and left wingers as opposed to midfielders though.
😀
CropleyWasGod
12-01-2019, 11:47 AM
Can a club write of against tax players severance pay ?
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Yes
southsider
12-01-2019, 11:54 AM
They are effectively making him redundant. So due severance pay. Part of which might not be liable for tax?
jacomo
12-01-2019, 11:57 AM
What do they mean jack ross opened the door?
Ridiculous and irrelevant. It’s the window that’s important.
CropleyWasGod
12-01-2019, 11:57 AM
They are effectively making him redundant. So due severance pay. Part of which might not be liable for tax?
It's not redundancy. His position remains open, which is the test for redundancy.
K-Zazu
12-01-2019, 12:04 PM
What’s the story with Agyepong?
nonshinyfinish
12-01-2019, 12:08 PM
What’s the story with Agyepong?
Staying to the end of the season – loans like this provide invaluable experience for our medical team.
The 90+2
12-01-2019, 12:14 PM
What’s the story with Agyepong?
Same as last season. Shows potential, injured then shows potential, injured again...
The 90+2
12-01-2019, 12:15 PM
Staying to the end of the season – loans like this provide invaluable experience for our medical team.
😂
jeffers
12-01-2019, 12:19 PM
Staying to the end of the season – loans like this provide invaluable experience for our medical team.
:applause: That was a good one
BSEJVT
12-01-2019, 12:22 PM
What’s the story with Agyepong?
He will without ever really playing or contributing a single thing go down in folklore as one of our best ever players
I almost hope for the guys sake he doesn’t get fit as it would tarnish folks memories of him as he is nowhere near as good as folk seem to remember him being
Not saying he isn’t good but some of the things I have read of him on here would have you believing he us Messi when personallly I haven’t see near enough of him to form any opinion
The_Horde
12-01-2019, 12:32 PM
He will without ever really playing or contributing a single thing go down in folklore as one of our best ever players
I almost hope for the guys sake he doesn’t get fit as it would tarnish folks memories of him as he is nowhere near as good as folk seem to remember him being
Not saying he isn’t good but some of the things I have read of him on here would have you believing he us Messi when personallly I haven’t see near enough of him to form any opinion
Think you're being a bit dramatic there. People have said he's talented, there is no doubt about that. But I haven't seen anyone say he's messi.
Leitherhibs
12-01-2019, 12:33 PM
We’re definitely one of the two Scottish clubs with a firm interest in Greg Stewart, financials yet to be agreed with B’ham City or the player.
jacomo
12-01-2019, 12:34 PM
He will without ever really playing or contributing a single thing go down in folklore as one of our best ever players
I almost hope for the guys sake he doesn’t get fit as it would tarnish folks memories of him as he is nowhere near as good as folk seem to remember him being
Not saying he isn’t good but some of the things I have read of him on here would have you believing he us Messi when personallly I haven’t see near enough of him to form any opinion
Come on now.
Albanian Hibs
12-01-2019, 12:37 PM
We’re definitely one of the two Scottish clubs with a firm interest in Greg Stewart, financials yet to be agreed with B’ham City or the player.
Who is the other?
flash
12-01-2019, 12:41 PM
He will without ever really playing or contributing a single thing go down in folklore as one of our best ever players
I almost hope for the guys sake he doesn’t get fit as it would tarnish folks memories of him as he is nowhere near as good as folk seem to remember him being
Not saying he isn’t good but some of the things I have read of him on here would have you believing he us Messi when personallly I haven’t see near enough of him to form any opinion
What a strange post.
SHODAN
12-01-2019, 12:41 PM
Who is the other?
Guessing as it didn't work at Aberdeen that the only other club is the Hertz.
The Green Goblin
12-01-2019, 12:43 PM
What do they mean jack ross opened the door?
Like Meghan Markle did, but with less publicity.
Hibbyradge
12-01-2019, 12:44 PM
Ridiculous and irrelevant. It’s the window that’s important.
:thumbsup:
SouthMoroccoStu
12-01-2019, 12:45 PM
Who is the other?
Aberdeen would be a sensible guess
Ah forgot he was there already
Leitherhibs
12-01-2019, 12:45 PM
Who is the other?
Didn’t get that info but I’d have a guess at Dundee or that Gorgie mob.
CB_NO3
12-01-2019, 12:48 PM
Guessing as it didn't work at Aberdeen that the only other club is the Hertz.
Doubt it will be Hearts. They just signed a forward and have McLean, Naismith and Uche on their books.
The 90+2
12-01-2019, 12:51 PM
Doubt it will be Hearts. They just signed a forward and have McLean, Naismith and Uche on their books.
That doesn’t usually stop them having about 400 players in every position. I’m sure Stewart is from Edinburgh grew up a hun, anyone confirm this?
Killie think he’s been recalled to sell so it would be a very good signing that’s for sure.
hibs#1
12-01-2019, 01:08 PM
That doesn’t usually stop them having about 400 players in every position. I’m sure Stewart is from Edinburgh grew up a hun, anyone confirm this?
Killie think he’s been recalled to sell so it would be a very good signing that’s for sure.
I'm sure he's from Stirling might be a rangers fan but probably will coming from Stirling.
Smartie
12-01-2019, 01:11 PM
I'd have thought Sevco might be interested.
Silversand
12-01-2019, 01:14 PM
Was at Rangers & Hearts as a youngster but didn't play for either.
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Souter96Mac
12-01-2019, 01:14 PM
Would be some signing
SouthMoroccoStu
12-01-2019, 01:27 PM
If it was therangers we’d have heard about it by now
The Daily Ranger would be “bragging” that Killie were losing him to therangers gain
Speedway
12-01-2019, 01:51 PM
We’re definitely one of the two Scottish clubs with a firm interest in Greg Stewart, financials yet to be agreed with B’ham City or the player.
Helen Mirren are currently trying to sign a whole new team and already have Tansey; could it be them?
Heisenberg
12-01-2019, 01:56 PM
Surely if it’s us and another Scottish club after Stewart it would be Killie? They’ll definitely be wanting to get him back permanently.
Allant1981
12-01-2019, 02:09 PM
Surely if it’s us and another Scottish club after Stewart it would be Killie? They’ll definitely be wanting to get him back permanently.
Surely they wouldn't have cancelled his loan if killie wanted him
Greencore
12-01-2019, 02:11 PM
Shankland not in Ayr squad today....
cleanyman
12-01-2019, 02:15 PM
Shankland not in Ayr squad today....
I thought he done his calf
The 90+2
12-01-2019, 02:15 PM
Surely they wouldn't have cancelled his loan if killie wanted him
If they are looking to sell the player then they would need to cancel his loan. Partially to look after what is their player.
CropleyWasGod
12-01-2019, 02:16 PM
Helen Mirren are currently trying to sign a whole new team and already have Tansey; could it be them?
She can have me on a permanent loan.
Heisenberg
12-01-2019, 02:17 PM
Surely they wouldn't have cancelled his loan if killie wanted him
Maybe they want to cash in though? Birmingham will still be paying the majority of his wages if he’s only on loan. Getting rid for a fee this month would suit them. Killie would certainly be an attractive option for him given how he’s played under Clarke.
Allant1981
12-01-2019, 02:25 PM
Maybe they want to cash in though? Birmingham will still be paying the majority of his wages if he’s only on loan. Getting rid for a fee this month would suit them. Killie would certainly be an attractive option for him given how he’s played under Clarke.
Suppose, if they want to free up all the wages
The 90+2
12-01-2019, 02:28 PM
Suppose if they want to free up all the wages
Why wouldn’t they? There is no sell on value.
SirDavidsNapper
12-01-2019, 02:28 PM
Who is the other?
Hearts
GreenArmy1875
12-01-2019, 02:35 PM
Not a rumour but would anyone take Mcnulty? Does not seem to be playing much for Reading?
hfc rd
12-01-2019, 02:36 PM
Doubt it will be Hearts. They just signed a forward and have McLean, Naismith and Uche on their books.
That won’t stop them though. You know they like to have 400 players in each position. Plus they don’t know if Naismith will be there next season.
Hermit Crab
12-01-2019, 02:44 PM
Shankland not in Ayr squad today....
He's injured and Ayr have stipulated that the only way he will leave this window is if he's immediately loaned back to the club.
K-Zazu
12-01-2019, 02:45 PM
That won’t stop them though. You know they like to have 400 players in each position. Plus they don’t know if Naismith will be there next season.
It’s called having squad depth, something we don’t have.
The 90+2
12-01-2019, 02:45 PM
He's injured and Ayr have stipulated that the only way he will leave this window is if he's immediately loaned back to the club.
Or if a player is loaned as a direct replacement.
SHODAN
12-01-2019, 02:46 PM
Well as we have clearly been saving the McGinn money, record ST money and Europa League money and Hearts have already signed 100000000 players we'll definitely outbid them this time.
The 90+2
12-01-2019, 02:46 PM
It’s called having squad depth, something we don’t have.
No it’s called signing loads of huddies and hoping some are half decent.
The_Horde
12-01-2019, 02:52 PM
Well as we have clearly been saving the McGinn money, record ST money and Europa League money and Hearts have already signed 100000000 players we'll definitely outbid them this time.
We didn't and don't have it all yet I don't think.
Jack Hackett
12-01-2019, 03:06 PM
With the zombie huns right up sellick's erchie at the half-way mark, it would be very much in their interest to strengthen us for the rest of the season. We're nowhere near catching them, but are more than capable of dishing out sore ones to the The's to their benefit. You know it makes sense. Buy or loan Scott this window... I don't much care when we desperately need him
BSEJVT
12-01-2019, 03:07 PM
What a strange post.
Not really I don't think as the post was made with tongue firmly in cheek, but having said that, I have read lots of posts on here talking up Agyepong
He may well turn out to be very good but its far too early to say as IMO he has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he is worthy of even the praise he has received from some.
I accept fully that his injuries may have prevented that but in many ways the hype surrounding him is very similar to that that surrounded Slivka early days in his Hibs career.
Far too much of it is and was because of where he was signed from as having had plenty of chances, Slivka is yet to nail down a place in the team or justify the hype given to him by many.
He is okay, has some attributes and some deficiencies, but he is still a relatively young man and hope springs eternal that he will reach a higher level.
I have a feeling Agyepong would prove to be the same as based on the little I have seen of him his decision making may be a bit suspect, but that's unfair of me as I haven't seen nearly enough of him to really know and he deserves a consistent run of games before making that judgement.
Hibs net's history is punctuated with players some folk liked and others didn't and felt should have been given more of a chance but came to nothing.
Danderhall Hibs
12-01-2019, 03:24 PM
It’s called having squad depth, something we don’t have.
Why did they bang on and on and on about having 3 or 4 players injured if they had such depth?
Borderhibbie76
12-01-2019, 03:28 PM
Staying to the end of the season – loans like this provide invaluable experience for our medical team.[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
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jingler1954
12-01-2019, 04:08 PM
Not a rumour but would anyone take Mcnulty? Does not seem to be playing much for Reading?
Yes He’s been told he can find another club.
hibbyfraelibby
12-01-2019, 04:13 PM
The other thing about the Spurs keeper is the implication that Dabrowski isn't up to being out third/fourth choice keeper.
How long are Marciano and Laidlaw out for?
Dabs was brought back from a loan he was sent on to get competetive game time with a view to his future developnent. Bogdan is away at the end of the season and Rocky may be next season so the lad needs game time and the Spurs guy gives us a 3 keeoer depth.
Hibs90
12-01-2019, 04:13 PM
Box to box midfielder next apparently...
SouthMoroccoStu
12-01-2019, 04:14 PM
Not a rumour but would anyone take Mcnulty? Does not seem to be playing much for Reading?
Went to porty high and from a big Celtic Supporting family
Would welcome him at ER no bother
Callum_62
12-01-2019, 04:17 PM
Box to box midfielder next apparently...
Any names?
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04Sauzee
12-01-2019, 04:26 PM
Box to box midfielder next apparently...
A young Loanee? Any names or where he maybe coming from?
The_Horde
12-01-2019, 04:37 PM
Box to box midfielder next apparently...
Says who?
Hibs90
12-01-2019, 04:40 PM
No name or that. Just someone who knows people at the club. Take with a pinch of salt.
SteveHFC
12-01-2019, 04:46 PM
Hibs favourites to sign Shankland according to the bookies.
The_Horde
12-01-2019, 04:50 PM
a young loanee? Any names or where he maybe coming from?
edg
Jones28
12-01-2019, 04:51 PM
Some promising sounds flying about, Morgan, Mulumbu and Stewart would be three top signings.
The_Horde
12-01-2019, 04:56 PM
Some promising sounds flying about, Morgan, Mulumbu and Stewart would be three top signings.
Be even better when we end up with Mackinnon, Fyvie and Alex Harris.
tonyrougier123
12-01-2019, 05:02 PM
Mcnulty if he wanted a crack at hibs would be pretty decent signing.local lad as well.not a rumour though 👍
hfc rd
12-01-2019, 05:06 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3738515/lawrence-shankland-transfer-news-hibs-rangers-celtic-ayr/amp/
04Sauzee
12-01-2019, 05:11 PM
Hibs favourites to sign Shankland according to the bookies.
Favourites in Scotland. Swansea still favourites
Hibee Mac
12-01-2019, 05:23 PM
Just a thought... I'm all for getting the best players in but some effort needs to be put towards bringing some in permanent too. Understand this is hard in January.
I'd rather see us solve half our problems with permanent signings this window and then fill the gaps in summer instead of completely solving our problems with loanees this window and then being back to square one in summer.
The 90+2
12-01-2019, 05:28 PM
Loans with ore contracts for next season would be ideal all things considered. Learn by past mistakes.
Dunbar Hibee
12-01-2019, 07:08 PM
We may well be interested in Shankland but no contact as of yet. Or none that he knows of, anyway.
zlatan
12-01-2019, 07:10 PM
Mcnulty if he wanted a crack at hibs would be pretty decent signing.local lad as well.not a rumour though 👍
He might be natural police but we don't need someone who plays the game by his own rules.
nonshinyfinish
12-01-2019, 07:29 PM
He might be natural police but we don't need someone who plays the game by his own rules.
"What the f*** did I do?"
Hermit Crab
12-01-2019, 07:48 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190112/952661d1b9d22bf5ce84046bcd512970.jpg
H18 SFR
12-01-2019, 07:58 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190112/952661d1b9d22bf5ce84046bcd512970.jpg
Word here in Ayr is that we had lengthy discussions but a deal couldn't be agreed and that was that. Apparently it's his agent that's now trying to reignite, somehow facilitate, the potential deal again.
Hibernia&Alba
12-01-2019, 07:58 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190112/952661d1b9d22bf5ce84046bcd512970.jpg
:hyper
He'd be a very promising signing.
We’re probably a perfect fit for Lawrence Shankland.Needs to play in the top league and if he does well it’ll be a springboard.Wouldnt get on the pitch much for Celtic or Rangers.We certainly could do with him.
Bleeds green
12-01-2019, 08:03 PM
:hyper
He'd be a very promising signing.
Typical newspaper click bait a headline because hibs are 3:1 with some bookies to sign him whilst the old firm are 4/1. No inside knowledge or any source quotes etc. Typical Media crap!
wookie70
12-01-2019, 08:03 PM
A SJM type deal would be a good way to try and get Shankland. I like the idea of player proceeds being shared with clubs where the player has been developed and it will ultimately make the game stronger.
bingo70
12-01-2019, 08:10 PM
A SJM type deal would be a good way to try and get Shankland. I like the idea of player proceeds being shared with clubs where the player has been developed and it will ultimately make the game stronger.
Yup, a 33% of any future transfer fee could see them raking in more than a million if he is as good as they think he is.
I think the sell on % made the sale of SJM st Mirren the biggest income they’ve ever had from a transfer.
Gmack7
12-01-2019, 08:14 PM
Yup, a 33% of any future transfer fee could see them raking in more than a million if he is as good as they think he is.
I think the sell on % made the sale of SJM st Mirren the biggest income they’ve ever had from a transfer.
And it will hopefully be our highest in the next coupl of years as well
Tobias Funke
12-01-2019, 08:17 PM
Typical newspaper click bait a headline because hibs are 3:1 with some bookies to sign him whilst the old firm are 4/1. No inside knowledge or any source quotes etc. Typical Media crap!
Exactly my thoughts. Absolute nonsense article.
Souter96Mac
12-01-2019, 08:24 PM
Peterborough owner replying to a Hibs fan twitter account saying that Forest can recall Cummings if needed, and there have been multiple enquiries.
Michael
12-01-2019, 08:26 PM
Who is Shankland similar too?
angus hibby
12-01-2019, 08:27 PM
If our interest in Shankland is true, I do hope we’re planning to keep MacLaren. The signing of Gauld should benefit MacLaren and Kamberi.
Weegreenman
12-01-2019, 08:29 PM
I must confess that I don't know very much about Shankland, Ayr Utd or why he's scoring so damn often. Surely there must be other's in that Ayr side that play a huge part in wee Lawrence's goal tally? What a brilliant signing it would be if we could pull this off.
HoboHarry
12-01-2019, 08:34 PM
Who is Shankland similar too?
His mum.
bingo70
12-01-2019, 08:38 PM
I must confess that I don't know very much about Shankland, Ayr Utd or why he's scoring so damn often. Surely there must be other's in that Ayr side that play a huge part in wee Lawrence's goal tally? What a brilliant signing it would be if we could pull this off.
Wondered that myself.
Who has all the assists at Ayr? Maybe we should be asking about them too.
500miles
12-01-2019, 08:39 PM
Who is Shankland similar too?
Max Headroom.
Souter96Mac
12-01-2019, 08:39 PM
Wondered that myself.
Who has all the assists at Ayr? Maybe we should be asking about them too.
Don't think we should. Ayr's recent form since Shankland has been out has been woeful.
bingo70
12-01-2019, 08:43 PM
Don't think we should. Ayr's recent form since Shankland has been out has been woeful.
To answer my own question, it appears to be Declan Mcdaid. 23 year old midfielder with 5 assists so far this season.
Doesn’t seem that much to be honest and nothing about his career to date suggests he would be someone we should be interested in.
The Spaceman
12-01-2019, 08:51 PM
If our interest in Shankland is true, I do hope we’re planning to keep MacLaren. The signing of Gauld should benefit MacLaren and Kamberi.
With you on this one. Think it is too early to write off Maclaren. The service they've got this season has been poor...agreed Gauld could be key to getting a lot more out of these two. They showed us last season what they could do with good service!!
Weegreenman
12-01-2019, 08:56 PM
With you on this one. Think it is too early to write off Maclaren. The service they've got this season has been poor...agreed Gauld could be key to getting a lot more out of these two. They showed us last season what they could do with good service!!
I agree. Feed those two lads with decent service and I think we'll see them score plenty :cb
Tornadoes70
12-01-2019, 09:10 PM
I must confess that I don't know very much about Shankland, Ayr Utd or why he's scoring so damn often. Surely there must be other's in that Ayr side that play a huge part in wee Lawrence's goal tally? What a brilliant signing it would be if we could pull this off.
:rolleyes:
He's 6 foot 1.
Hibeesmad
12-01-2019, 09:11 PM
I can’t see Ayr selling him after releasing a statement stating that they won’t unless a loan until the end of the season is included. Unless they would be happy with potentially someone like Shaw going on loan to them until the end of the season
SloopJB
12-01-2019, 09:17 PM
Max Headroom.
Iiiiinteressssssssting anal anal anal anal PAH analogy there big fella.
Tornadoes70
12-01-2019, 09:20 PM
I can’t see Ayr selling him after releasing a statement stating that they won’t unless a loan until the end of the season is included. Unless they would be happy with potentially someone like Shaw going on loan to them until the end of the season
Seen a rumour that we're alleged favourites to sign him. Just a rumour but hope its true.
Ozyhibby
12-01-2019, 09:21 PM
I can’t see Ayr selling him after releasing a statement stating that they won’t unless a loan until the end of the season is included. Unless they would be happy with potentially someone like Shaw going on loan to them until the end of the season
Ayr will sell if the price is right. He will walk for free in the summer anyway and if he says he wants to go then they won’t want an unhappy player for the rest of the season.
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Hibeesmad
12-01-2019, 09:21 PM
I can’t see Ayr selling him after releasing a statement stating that they won’t unless a loan until the end of the season is included. Unless they would be happy with potentially someone like Shaw going on loan to them until the end of the season
Tornadoes70
12-01-2019, 09:24 PM
I can’t see Ayr selling him after releasing a statement stating that they won’t unless a loan until the end of the season is included. Unless they would be happy with potentially someone like Shaw going on loan to them until the end of the season
Deja vu multiple poster.
:greengrin
H18 SFR
12-01-2019, 09:33 PM
I can’t see Ayr selling him after releasing a statement stating that they won’t unless a loan until the end of the season is included. Unless they would be happy with potentially someone like Shaw going on loan to them until the end of the season
I think it would need be cash and two loans, Shaw and A.N. Other. Ayr only had three out of seven subs today. They literally have just a starting XI just now.
Heisenberg
12-01-2019, 09:41 PM
https://bit.ly/2H6p7A0
Not sounding like anything is close regarding Allan.
04Sauzee
12-01-2019, 09:44 PM
https://bit.ly/2H6p7A0
Not sounding like anything is close regarding Allan.
After reading it I'm left thinking it didn't actually say anything much.
Hermit Crab
12-01-2019, 09:49 PM
https://bit.ly/2H6p7A0
Not sounding like anything is close regarding Allan.
Not saying anything we don't already know.
Tornadoes70
12-01-2019, 09:49 PM
I think it would need be cash and two loans, Shaw and A.N. Other. Ayr only had three out of seven subs today. They literally have just a starting XI just now.
As i said in an earlier post I've heard a rumour going round that we're favourites to sign Shankland at the moment anyway. If we could snap him up it would be a bit of a coup as he's a free scoring forward who I think definitely has a very good chance at making the step up to our league. I'd prefer to keep Ollie too though as he's got more development in him and is a cracking prospect for the long term.
Heisenberg
12-01-2019, 09:51 PM
After reading it I'm left thinking it didn't actually say anything much.
Lennon is trying to point out that it’s not a foregone conclusion that we’ll sign him and that currently nothing is even remotely close regarding discussions.
He also chucks in a wee bit about Gauld and Allan being very similar. As he says he’d take both, but we’ve already got Gauld and i’d imagine he still wants a few more players in different positions.
bingo70
12-01-2019, 09:51 PM
Not saying anything we don't already know.
Not really.
There had been quite a few suggestions he was about to get paid off by Celtic and a move to hibs could be imminent.
We now know we’re nowhere even close to getting a deal for him and we need to forget about him signing for the time being.
Tornadoes70
12-01-2019, 09:54 PM
Not really.
There had been quite a few suggestions he was about to get paid off by Celtic and a move to hibs could be imminent.
We now know we’re nowhere even close to getting a deal for him and we need to forget about him signing for the time being.
Its a big market place. If we don't get him so be it. Plenty more fish in the sea so to speak.
Very excited to see what young Gauldino can do and he'll not be the only signing with or without Allan.
Mon the Cabbage!!!
04Sauzee
12-01-2019, 10:00 PM
Lennon is trying to point out that it’s not a foregone conclusion that we’ll sign him and that currently nothing is even remotely close regarding discussions.
He also chucks in a wee bit about Gauld and Allan being very similar. As he says he’d take both, but we’ve already got Gauld and i’d imagine he still wants a few more players in different positions.
The Record sayang it's about availability, cost and whether he'd like to come. These avenues haven't been explored yet.
Seems a weird story
CapitalGreen
12-01-2019, 10:05 PM
To answer my own question, it appears to be Declan Mcdaid. 23 year old midfielder with 5 assists so far this season.
Doesn’t seem that much to be honest and nothing about his career to date suggests he would be someone we should be interested in.
Out of interest, where did you get the assist stats from? They were not typically recorded anywhere while we were in the Championship.
Souter96Mac
12-01-2019, 10:09 PM
The Record sayang it's about availability, cost and whether he'd like to come. These avenues haven't been explored yet.
Seems a weird story
Slow news day.
bingo70
12-01-2019, 10:10 PM
Out of interest, where did you get the assist stats from? They were not typically recorded anywhere while we were in the Championship.
Googled Ayr United top assists and a link for the bbc page giving the Ayr top scorers came up, on that page it has the number of assists as well.
CapitalGreen
12-01-2019, 10:21 PM
Googled Ayr United top assists and a link for the bbc page giving the Ayr top scorers came up, on that page it has the number of assists as well.
Cheers 👍
Nicho87
13-01-2019, 12:01 AM
Few Aberdeen fans getting excited on twitter thinking Scott Allan is a done deal. Please god hope this isn’t true.
See if we have dicked about re Allan and now don’t push the boat out for him when we have a chance of getting him in a perm deal (as we have Gauld for a few months) I will be raging.
If he signs for the sheep for a few quid more then it will confirm what we all suspect that we are run by a penny pinching miserable mostache wearing twat.
Stuart93
13-01-2019, 12:39 AM
Aye think losing out on scott allan especially to Aberdeen would be a bit of a boot in the balls to a lot of hibs fans especially when we know he’s available.
SaulGoodman
13-01-2019, 12:43 AM
Few Aberdeen fans getting excited on twitter thinking Scott Allan is a done deal. Please god hope this isn’t true.
Getting excited over a bad fake text by the looks of it
alihibs1
13-01-2019, 12:59 AM
The text is definitely fake.
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Tornadoes70
13-01-2019, 01:10 AM
Would be nice to have Allan back but if he's not it'll 100% not be through want of trying from the board or Lenny. It'll be because it'd blow our budget or he wants to go elsewhere as is his prerogative. We'll just have to look elsewhere as Lenny and the backroom staff will be doing if Allan's not for us for whatever reason.
Mon the Cabbage!!!
Dashing Bob S
13-01-2019, 01:32 AM
The Record sayang it's about availability, cost and whether he'd like to come. These avenues haven't been explored yet.
Seems a weird story
Never for one second considered that cost, availability and player desire to come to a club might be factors in the transfer market. As humble fans we owe the Daily Record and it’s crusading sports journalist team big time for sharing this insight with us.
Tornadoes70
13-01-2019, 01:36 AM
Never for one second considered that cost, availability and player desire to come to a club might be factors in the transfer market. As humble fans we owe the Daily Record and it’s crusading sports journalist team big time for sharing this insight with us.
:top marks
There's some who look for any excuse genuine or not to have a kick at our club. They have no idea what's going on behind the scenes yet lash out at the first chance they get. We're 'Supporters' remember.
Mon the Cabbage!!!
Haymaker
13-01-2019, 01:51 AM
:hyper
dmc1875
13-01-2019, 02:29 AM
Shankland is just like Cummings - proven at championship level but not at premiership level.
Cummings didn’t exactly excel at rangers...
I’d much rather go after a proven SPL goal scorer aka Louis moult...
MacGruber
13-01-2019, 07:09 AM
Shankland is just like Cummings - proven at championship level but not at premiership level.
Cummings didn’t exactly excel at rangers...
I’d much rather go after a proven SPL goal scorer aka Louis moult...
Take your point about not being proven ar SPL level.
In my own opinion I would take Cummings over the other 2 - primarily because he's proven at Hibs.
Would add that I'd be delighted with any of them
SirDavidsNapper
13-01-2019, 07:48 AM
Looking at Shanklands stats he looks to be a bit of a one season wonder at lower level.
Bleeds green
13-01-2019, 07:50 AM
Interesting that Lennon has used the term ‘whether he wants to come’ regarding Allan, surely there has been some sort of communication between the two parties and that would be the first thing to sort out whether the player wants to come to hibs or not?!
Heisenberg
13-01-2019, 07:59 AM
Aberdeen in for Greg Stewart.
Ozyhibby
13-01-2019, 07:59 AM
Looking at Shanklands stats he looks to be a bit of a one season wonder at lower level.
26 goals last season and 18 so far this?
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Leitherhibs
13-01-2019, 08:11 AM
Looking at Shanklands stats he looks to be a bit of a one season wonder at lower level.
Yeah, having seen him play a couple times I don’t think stats tell the full story with this kid. Does a lot more for that Ayr team than just score goals, his hold up play and work rate are excellent.
Never for one second considered that cost, availability and player desire to come to a club might be factors in the transfer market. As humble fans we owe the Daily Record and it’s crusading sports journalist team big time for sharing this insight with us.
:top marks It's only NL being realistic & perhaps sending a message to the player & Celtc as well as the fans.
SouthMoroccoStu
13-01-2019, 08:17 AM
Aberdeen in for Greg Stewart.
He had a poor time there
Would he go back?
chrisski33
13-01-2019, 08:18 AM
I think allan is going elsewhere tbh.
Heisenberg
13-01-2019, 08:18 AM
He had a poor time there
Would he go back?
Suppose it depends how motivated he is by the extra cash they’ll offer over other clubs in Scotland.
The Modfather
13-01-2019, 08:19 AM
Man City in for Allan, that’ll be that then!!
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-city-transfer-news-allan-15669399.amp
SeanWilson
13-01-2019, 08:22 AM
The real problem with SA is far more likely to be the fact his agent is an absolute [emoji348]end, who's not related to football in the slightest (other than being his mate). He's being advised poorly.
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The Green Goblin
13-01-2019, 08:25 AM
Man City in for Allan, that’ll be that then!!
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-city-transfer-news-allan-15669399.amp
If he goes there, it will be to earn a wage by not playing (yet again). At this rate, I wonder what career highlights he’ll be treasuring when his retirement finally approaches?
SeanWilson
13-01-2019, 08:28 AM
If he goes there, it will be to earn a wage by not playing (yet again). At this rate, I wonder what career highlights he’ll be treasuring when his retirement finally approaches?Click the link [emoji6]
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Hibbyradge
13-01-2019, 08:43 AM
He's being advised poorly.
What advice is he being given?
BoomtownHibees
13-01-2019, 08:53 AM
If he goes there, it will be to earn a wage by not playing (yet again). At this rate, I wonder what career highlights he’ll be treasuring when his retirement finally approaches?
🙈
Bangkok Hibby
13-01-2019, 08:54 AM
Man City in for Allan, that’ll be that then!!
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-city-transfer-news-allan-15669399.amp
Good one! :greengrin
SouthMoroccoStu
13-01-2019, 08:54 AM
What advice is he being given?
He’s 27 and had played 129 senior game (including friendlies)
He’s widely recognised as a an extremely talented midfielder who has never realised his full potential
He’s never had a major injury
Someone is advising him poorly or he’s not getting any advice
SeanWilson
13-01-2019, 08:55 AM
What advice is he being given?I'm not privy to what's being said right now, however I know when he signed for Hibs first perm deal, his contract was a shocker (ie actually in favour of Hibs and not the player but they didn't see it that way, in terms of all options on the club side rather than player). They are his pals, getting a wedge off punting him about... Never going to be acting in the players interest. Hibs are not going to be the biggest payers and whether or not he seems to play his best football with us, they're not likely to take that in to account at this stage of his career.
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cleanyman
13-01-2019, 08:56 AM
He’s 27 and had played 129 senior game (including friendlies)
He’s widely recognised as a an extremely talented midfielder who has never realised his full potential
He’s never had a major injury
Someone is advising him poorly or he’s not getting any advice
He's secured good deals wherever he's been
Scott Allan isn't bothered about playing football. Fair play to him because he's made good money from the game for doing next to nothing
bingo70
13-01-2019, 08:59 AM
He's secured good deals wherever he's been
Scott Allan isn't bothered about playing football. Fair play to him because he's made good money from the game for doing next to nothing
In what way is he not bothered about playing football?
The sums of money involved are far too significant for him to turn down.
CapitalGreen
13-01-2019, 09:00 AM
He's secured good deals wherever he's been
Scott Allan isn't bothered about playing football. Fair play to him because he's made good money from the game for doing next to nothing
Someone who isn’t bothered about playing football would not be paying money out of his own pocket for extra training sessions to improve himself and ensure he is in the best condition possible for when he gets a chance at another club.
Heckys Wheel
13-01-2019, 09:01 AM
In what way is he not bothered about playing football?
The sums of money involved are far too significant for him to turn down.
I believe when Celtic came in for him, he specifically asked if he would playing and Celtic told him, no we’re only signing you to give you a better wage.
“Ok, great! He said. Where do I sign?
Heisenberg
13-01-2019, 09:04 AM
Scott Burns claiming we are interested in Jack Hendry. Any move depends on whether we get Morgan on loan.
Boyle89
13-01-2019, 09:11 AM
Scott Burns claiming we are interested in Jack Hendry. Any move depends on whether we get Morgan on loan.
Please god no. Don't rate him at all.
cleanyman
13-01-2019, 09:12 AM
Allan is a footballing mercenary. He's an okay player. Nothing more.
Would he improve the team? Of course he would as we are mince this season. I'm not too bothered about getting him, rather we went for someone else
Scott Burns claiming we are interested in Jack Hendry. Any move depends on whether we get Morgan on loan.Aw ****ing please no !!! terrible player 😲
SouthMoroccoStu
13-01-2019, 09:18 AM
Allan is a footballing mercenary. He's an okay player. Nothing more.
Would he improve the team? Of course he would as we are mince this season. I'm not too bothered about getting him, rather we went for someone else
He’s far better than an okay player
BILLYHIBS
13-01-2019, 09:21 AM
Would not take Jack Hendry if we got him free in a lucky bag ! :greengrin
Allant1981
13-01-2019, 09:23 AM
Allan is a footballing mercenary. He's an okay player. Nothing more.
Would he improve the team? Of course he would as we are mince this season. I'm not too bothered about getting him, rather we went for someone else
He improved us last season as well though
truehibernian
13-01-2019, 09:24 AM
Scott Burns claiming we are interested in Jack Hendry. Any move depends on whether we get Morgan on loan.
His form this season has been truly awful however it's very very clear he is having a confidence issue on the pitch. I watched him at Tynecastle in the season opener and him and Kouassie were the worst players on the pitch, both in terms of possession (lost), lack of game intelligence and low confidence. The times I have seen him since he has been very poor at reading the game. His only 'get out' would be that Celtic have never had a settled defence this season and have mixed and matched their back line, which may be a little unsettling for a central defender and that Rodgers tend(ed) to play him on the left side of the pairing where he looks more comfortable on the right side of defence.
Not a player I think we need in this window and there are much better defenders out there.
Hibbyradge
13-01-2019, 09:26 AM
I'm not privy to what's being said right now, however I know when he signed for Hibs first perm deal, his contract was a shocker (ie actually in favour of Hibs and not the player but they didn't see it that way, in terms of all options on the club side rather than player). They are his pals, getting a wedge off punting him about... Never going to be acting in the players interest. Hibs are not going to be the biggest payers and whether or not he seems to play his best football with us, they're not likely to take that in to account at this stage of his career.
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Ok. I thought from your post that you knew he was being badly advised, and that he was taking that advice.
I now realise that you were guessing.
BoomtownHibees
13-01-2019, 09:26 AM
Allan is a footballing mercenary. He's an okay player. Nothing more.
Would he improve the team? Of course he would as we are mince this season. I'm not too bothered about getting him, rather we went for someone else
What a load o *****
IWasThere2016
13-01-2019, 09:26 AM
Scott Burns claiming we are interested in Jack Hendry. Any move depends on whether we get Morgan on loan.
SB will know. Close to LD. Sadly, Hendry is pish.
Danderhall Hibs
13-01-2019, 09:31 AM
See if we have dicked about re Allan and now don’t push the boat out for him when we have a chance of getting him in a perm deal (as we have Gauld for a few months) I will be raging.
If he signs for the sheep for a few quid more then it will confirm what we all suspect that we are run by a penny pinching miserable mostache wearing twat.
Is this one of those joke posts? The lack of smilies isn’t helping me.
SeanWilson
13-01-2019, 09:32 AM
Ok. I thought from your post that you knew he was being badly advised, and that he was taking that advice.
I now realise that you were guessing.Fair play, yes, I'm assuming his (same) representatives are still not operating in his best interests. Guess work and assumption based on previous fact.
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Heisenberg
13-01-2019, 09:41 AM
SB will know. Close to LD. Sadly, Hendry is pish.
He’s also saying Hull and Birmingham are after Morgan along with Hibs.
blackpoolhibs
13-01-2019, 09:42 AM
Having watched a bit of Jack Hendry in a few Celtic games, he has looked out of place in their defence.
He must have something about him, but he's not good enough for them at the moment, and i can see why they want him out to play some football.
supermcginn
13-01-2019, 09:43 AM
Jack Hendry surely not! 💩 please dont be true.
K-Zazu
13-01-2019, 09:43 AM
We don’t need Jack Hendry, would rather bring our own Scottish centre halfs through ourselves.
Souter96Mac
13-01-2019, 09:45 AM
Jack Hendry was ***** at Dundee. Hope this isn't true.
Hibbyradge
13-01-2019, 09:45 AM
Fair play, yes, I'm assuming his (same) representatives are still not operating in his best interests. Guess work and assumption based on previous fact.
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Do you think his advisors should have told him to reject Celtic's offer and go to The Rangers? He would have got a regular game there.
Hibbyradge
13-01-2019, 09:47 AM
These Jack Hendry posts are showing that not a lot has been learned from the David Gray thread. :wink:
I seem to recall that bundles of folk didn't want Efe Ambrose either.
frazeHFC
13-01-2019, 09:52 AM
I thought Ambrose was pish and a bombscare when we signed him so I'll reserve judgment on any player.
These Jack Hendry posts are showing that not a lot has been learned from the David Gray thread. :wink:
I seem to recall that bundles of folk didn't want Efe Ambrose either.Do you rate Hendry ? For what Ive seen of him so far with Dundee and celtc I dont think he would improve our defence
SeanWilson
13-01-2019, 09:54 AM
Do you think his advisors should have told him to reject Celtic's offer and go to The Rangers? He would have got a regular game there.Hibs had option to activate another year, they'd not let him go to Sevco. By all accounts, he'd have gone to Sevco.
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Hibbyradge
13-01-2019, 09:57 AM
Do you rate Hendry ? For what Ive seen of him so far with Dundee and celtc I dont think he would improve our defence
I don't know much about him. Neil Lennon obviously does though.
That's not really my point.
Folk said SDG was pish. They said Efe was hopeless. Now it's Hendry's turn.
Hibbyradge
13-01-2019, 09:58 AM
Hibs had option to activate another year, they'd not let him go to Sevco. By all accounts, he'd have gone to Sevco.
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So what was the bad advice? Genuine question, by the way.
I don't know much about him. Neil Lennon obviously does though.
That's not really my point.
Folk said SDG was pish. They said Efe was hopeless. Now it's Hendry's turn.On his showings so far I think he is honking, my celtc supporting colleague says the same 👍
Heisenberg
13-01-2019, 10:04 AM
Hendry is no better than what we have IMO. We need other positions filled first.
neil7908
13-01-2019, 10:06 AM
These Jack Hendry posts are showing that not a lot has been learned from the David Gray thread. :wink:
I seem to recall that bundles of folk didn't want Efe Ambrose either.
I haven't seen enough of him at Celtic or Dundee to comment on how good he is but it's the loan bit that bothers me. If you are signing someone on loan they need to be better than what you have. The other question is, do you have a chance of signing them at the end of the loan?
In both cases I think the answer is no. It also isn't an area I feel we need to strengthen. We have Hanlon, Porteous, McGregor and Milligan that can play centre back.
We also need to do everything to help develop Porteous and I'm not sure Hendry for 6 months does that.
Hibee Mac
13-01-2019, 10:17 AM
Hendry is a bombscare, I would be incredibly worried if our club is looking at him thinking he's a good prospect.
Eyrie
13-01-2019, 10:21 AM
If we get a loan player from Celtc then I'd prefer Morgan over Hendry at CH.
Based on what I've seen of Hendry and heard from Celtc season ticket holders.
SHODAN
13-01-2019, 10:23 AM
A defender is bottom of our list of priorities at the moment.
hfc rd
13-01-2019, 10:24 AM
Hendry is a bombscare, I would be incredibly worried if our club is looking at him thinking he's a good prospect.
I remember hearing the same similar thing being said about Efe Ambrose when we were about to sign him.
MWHIBBIES
13-01-2019, 10:25 AM
I'd take Henry. I remember similar comments about Ambrose. He wouldn't be playing for Celtic if he was that bad.
B.H.F.C
13-01-2019, 10:26 AM
Hendry wouldn’t make sense IMO.
Celtic need him to go and play games. I don’t think he’s guaranteed that if he comes to us.
CapitalGreen
13-01-2019, 10:29 AM
I don't know much about him. Neil Lennon obviously does though.
That's not really my point.
Folk said SDG was pish. They said Efe was hopeless. Now it's Hendry's turn.
I never said SDG was pish or Efe was hopeless, I was positive about both signings. However Hendry is absolutely gash.
Gmack7
13-01-2019, 10:31 AM
Hendry wouldn’t make sense IMO.
Celtic need him to go and play games. I don’t think he’s guaranteed that if he comes to us.
i feel Porteous, Hanlon and Macgregor would all be infront of Hendry if all are fit, if one of those 3 are injured I'd rather have Hendry at CB than Milligan though
if we can only get 1 loan player from Celtic I'd rather it was Morgan
Keyser Sauzee
13-01-2019, 10:33 AM
I think the fact we are targeting/rumoured with a few midfielders means Milligan will be used more as a back up centre half giving us 4 so can’t see NL going after Hendry or any other CH
CapitalGreen
13-01-2019, 10:34 AM
I'd take Henry. I remember similar comments about Ambrose. He wouldn't be playing for Celtic if he was that bad.
He isn’t playing for Celtic anymore though. Hasn’t played a minute since October and Celtic looking to get rid less than a year after signing.
blackpoolhibs
13-01-2019, 10:35 AM
I think we do need another central defender, Hanlon and McGregor have been injured a lot more than they normally are. Porteous is injured, and David Gray who might be used in that position if needed has been injured most of the season.
Milligan has been injured and now away with the national team, i'd say we are stretched at the back especially now Efe has gone.
Hendry in my opinion is struggling at Celtic, and i cant remember anything at all about him at Dundee, but i can see why we are interested in another defender.
Since90+2
13-01-2019, 10:38 AM
With Ambrose I think most folk knew he had a mistake in him but that he had undoubted quality that he had shown previously (such as winning the Africa Cup of Nations with Nigeria).
Jack Hendry has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he would be a good signing. Infact, the times I have seen him play he has looked pretty hopeless and on occasion the worst player on the park.
Hibee Mac
13-01-2019, 10:38 AM
I remember hearing the same similar thing being said about Efe Ambrose when we were about to sign him.
I don't think it's fair to compare Ambrose with Hendry.
Hendry is young, shown nothing to make anyone think he's good and found out to be terrible from his current club who want to get rid.
04Sauzee
13-01-2019, 10:39 AM
I think we do need another central defender, Hanlon and McGregor have been injured a lot more than they normally are. Porteous is injured, and David Gray who might be used in that position if needed has been injured most of the season.
Milligan has been injured and now away with the national team, i'd say we are stretched at the back especially now Efe has gone.
Hendry in my opinion is struggling at Celtic, and i cant remember anything at all about him at Dundee, but i can see why we are interested in another defender.
Agreed that we are short at CH especially since noenof the ones we have seem to be able to get a run of games.
Would really have liked someone like Halkett but maybe finances dictate he's out of our reach.
Speedway
13-01-2019, 10:40 AM
There really is no need to agonise over signings. We’ll simply sign the players that the sheep and the yam weren’t as arsed about.
Stuart93
13-01-2019, 10:49 AM
I’d like to think we can cast our net a bit wider than Jack Hendry on loan
HUTCHYHIBBY
13-01-2019, 10:58 AM
i feel Porteous, Hanlon and Macgregor would all be infront of Hendry if all are fit, if one of those 3 are injured I'd rather have Hendry at CB than Millican though
Me too, and her comedy is crap.
Allan is a footballing mercenary. He's an okay player. Nothing more.
Would he improve the team? Of course he would as we are mince this season. I'm not too bothered about getting him, rather we went for someone else
I've yet to see a positive post about anything from you on this forum, why are you here exactly?
sauzee=legend
13-01-2019, 11:02 AM
Looking at the dundee defence with and without Hendry in it....
I thought the dundee defence got better when he left.
Celtic’s defence was better/is better without Hendry in it.
Just my thoughts obviously so waiting to be shot down now..
cleanyman
13-01-2019, 11:06 AM
I've yet to see a positive post about anything from you on this forum, why are you here exactly?
I did say Gauld was a good signing which I think he will be
bingo70
13-01-2019, 11:07 AM
Hendry hasn’t been very good at Celtic but he must have been doing something right for Rodgers to spend so much on him in the first place. Maybe Celtic are just too big a club for him? Just because he isn’t good enough for them doesn’t mean he isn’t good enough for him.
I’d also urge anyone writing him off to have a look at his Mrs on Instagram, if she’d be an Easter Road regular he’d be worth every penny IMO.
Ringothedog
13-01-2019, 11:10 AM
I've yet to see a positive post about anything from you on this forum, why are you here exactly?
After a reaction.
Tornadoes70
13-01-2019, 11:10 AM
26 goals last season and 18 so far this?
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Stats look pretty good to me. If we do sign him its because Lenny and the backroom team are convinced he'll make the step up to our league and that will be more than good enough for me to warmly welcome Lawrence to our club.
Mon the Cabbage!!!
Betty Boop
13-01-2019, 11:11 AM
Hendry hasn’t been very good at Celtic but he must have been doing something right for Rodgers to spend so much on him in the first place. Maybe Celtic are just too big a club for him? Just because he isn’t good enough for them doesn’t mean he isn’t good enough for him.
I’d also urge anyone writing him off to have a look at his Mrs on Instagram, if she’d be an Easter Road regular he’d be worth every penny IMO.
Sorry what does his 'Mrs" have to do with anything ?
Heckys Wheel
13-01-2019, 11:13 AM
Hendry hasn’t been very good at Celtic but he must have been doing something right for Rodgers to spend so much on him in the first place. Maybe Celtic are just too big a club for him? Just because he isn’t good enough for them doesn’t mean he isn’t good enough for him.
I’d also urge anyone writing him off to have a look at his Mrs on Instagram, if she’d be an Easter Road regular he’d be worth every penny IMO.
Maybe just a case of struggling to settle at such a big club. He was outstanding for Dundee against us at Dens. Think it might’ve been when Stokes scores.
You have to laugh at people saying how pish he is. I judge players on the games against Hibs because it’s the only time I see them.
Hendry was rubbish at Easter Road last season but that was one game.
hibee-boys
13-01-2019, 11:18 AM
In my 30ish years attending Hibs games Allan, on his day, is without doubt one of the most gifted footballers i've seen. Has his stop start career stopped him playing at an even higher level, would have a sustained run of games over a number of seasons helped him produce this undoubted talent on a more consistent basis?
The move to WBA after a handful of games for Dundee Utd, his move to Celtic....were these in the best interest of his career or the highest offer on the table. His next move may well define what Scott Allan , as a footballer, will be remembered for.
Hibiza
13-01-2019, 11:19 AM
soz if ive missed this... whats happening with Gunnarson :flag:
SChibs
13-01-2019, 11:19 AM
Scott Burns claiming we are interested in Jack Hendry. Any move depends on whether we get Morgan on loan.
I'd take Hendry. He obviously has something or Celtic wouldmy have bought him and he wouldn't be in Scotland squats. I remember all this please God no chat when we were linked with Efe.
My_Wife_Camille
13-01-2019, 11:21 AM
26 goals last season and 18 so far this?
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Shankland has 28 goals this season already and we’re only about half way though.
28 goals is an fantastic record over the course of a season but to have that by January is unbelievable. His record this season blows the likes of Cummings (who I like) out of the water.
The Green Goblin
13-01-2019, 11:29 AM
🙈
Been due a woooosh for a while now... 👍
Hibbyradge
13-01-2019, 11:36 AM
Shankland has 28 goals this season already and we’re only about half way though.
28 goals is an fantastic record over the course of a season but to have that by January is unbelievable. His record this season blows the likes of Cummings (who I like) out of the water.
If he really is such a good prospect, then I'd like Hibs to sign him and loan him back.
It would also mean he couldn't play against us if we're drawn together in the cup. :wink:
By the way, Ayr are away to Auchinleck Talbot in the cup on Saturday. That's a tasty little tie so I would wait until after it to sign anyone from Ayr in case they're crocked! :greengrin
It's live on BBC too.
Don’t need Hendry, would much rather ensure that Porteous got as much game time as possible to aid his development rather than helping Celtic get their players up to the required standard ahead of our own. We have enough defensive cover if we drop the 3 man defence which has not worked well for us since McGinn left and stick with a back 4.
SChibs
13-01-2019, 11:48 AM
Don’t need Hendry, would much rather ensure that Porteous got as much game time as possible to aid his development rather than helping Celtic get their players up to the required standard ahead of our own. We have enough defensive cover if we drop the 3 man defence which has not worked well for us since McGinn left and stick with a back 4.
I keep hearing this 'we have enough defensive cover' but I don't believe it.
Porteous has just got injured but he should be back after the break.
Mcgregor struggles to play more than a few games in a row these days and his knee could give him problems.
Hanlon is just back from injury and only just getting back up to speed.
Milligan is an option as cover but he's not a starter imo.
I like our cbs but I do think we should be looking at bringing one in. If that player is good enough to start every game then play him
Unseen work
13-01-2019, 11:51 AM
Scott Burns claiming we are interested in Jack Hendry. Any move depends on whether we get Morgan on loan.
Mentioned this a week or 2 ago when I heard it.
Possible replacement for Efe as a ball playing defender who will take risks brining the ball out of defence
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