Terry Butcher (3 Year Contract Confirmed)

[silverhibee]

It will be interesting to see how the style debate goes from here.

Are you happy with the appointment Andy.?

[Scouse Hibee]

Meanwhile Jimmy Nic gets ready to welcome his old gaffer :wink:

[Andy74]

I think the vast majority of us want to see a team who wins on a consistent basis first and foremost no matter what and a team who turns up in a few more big games. If we can do it in style then great but I want winners first and foremost

Under your wee pal, wee Pat we were neither winners nor stylish.

Do you have a size issue you want to discuss ?

[dangermouse]

Hibs trending on twatter at the moment

[Andy74]

Are you happy with the appointment Andy.?

Not too bothered but I've not been battering on about a particular style of football in recent weeks even during a period of good results.

Just wondering what those people think of a manager who goes for a physical and direct approach with his current team.

[silverhibee]

Starting to sound more and more like BS, and possible backtracking by the BBC. I suspect Tel is playing a clever game to get the best deal for himself.

Free chippies from Gerry's. :greengrin

[Heisenberg]

Just a thought but maybe Butcher is denying any contact till its all sorted out between the clubs? Im hoping so anyway.

[JimBHibees]

Just a thought but maybe Butcher is denying any contact till its all sorted out between the clubs? Im hoping so anyway.

Hope so certainly sounds like someone has jumped the gun.

[TheFamous1875]

One thing I have been thinking about this potential scenario is Butcher's ICT teams success is based on pace, and using it to counter attack. What will he do if he inherits our squad?


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[Spike Mandela]

Owain Tudor-Jones (@Gavdoes1875)
04/11/2013 16:48
Terry butcher the new man in charge #FollowTheLeader #Hibs @JoshRogers23

[Hibs90]

Inverness chairman apparently just said there has been no contact from Hibs.

[Hibs7]

Somebody is telling porkies !!!

[Matty_Jack04]

who is Alex Henley?

O'henley sorry wee spell check error there

[Aldo]

Yip just on SSN that ICT Chairman stating no contact or approach.

Wonder if they've done this deliberately?

Hibs don't usually say nowt until the contract is signed and ink is dry!!

[Golden Bear]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/latest/hibs-agree-terms-with-terry-butcher-1-3173014

[Hibs90]

RT @InvCourier: Terry Butcher tells the Courier he has had NO contact with Hibs and has NOT agreed terms. No deal yet then...

[Treadstone]

Owain Tudor-Jones (@Gavdoes1875)
04/11/2013 16:48
Terry butcher the new man in charge #FollowTheLeader #Hibs @JoshRogers23

Thats no OTJ.

This is https://twitter.com/OwainTJones17

[green glory]

Owain Tudor-Jones (@Gavdoes1875) 04/11/2013 16:48 Terry butcher the new man in charge #FollowTheLeader #Hibs @JoshRogers23

That's not OTD's twitter account.

This was his last tweet.

@OwainTJones17: Pob lwc Ir lejynd @GBlainey efo'i lyfr newydd.Er, siom enfawr clywed fod o ddim yn son am ei gyfweliad enwog efo CB yn San Marino(?) #cachwr

[GreenLake]

Story, counter-story. Money to the bookies from more bets.

[brog]

Whether TB ends up at ER or not, & I hope he does, I really can't understand those posters who say he won't leave ICT. This is Hibs we're talking about, regardless of where we may currently be in the league we will, at worst be the 5th biggest club in Scotland. We have a stonking 20,000 seater stadium, a huge base support, though not 400,000 admittedly, state of the art training facilities & we play in one of the most beautiful & desirable cities in the world. Oh & I know for a fact & IIRC I posted a year or 2 back that TB came close to landing the job previously. In fact that was my major disquiet, that there may have been some hangover from previously but it appears not, fingers crossed!!
Mind you, I still think BBC could end up rather embarrassed here!

[Hermit Crab]

Do you think TB could hightail it down to East Mains in time for a 6pm Press Conference?

I too shall await a formal announcement from Hibs. This is just not the usual sequence of events and so wonder where the BBC is getting the info from?

No but he'll arrive by helicopter.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

One thing I have been thinking about this potential scenario is Butcher's ICT teams success is based on pace, and using it to counter attack. What will he do if he inherits our squad?


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Change it.

[nonshinyfinish]

That's not OTD's twitter account.

This was his last tweet.

@OwainTJones17: Pob lwc Ir lejynd @GBlainey efo'i lyfr newydd.Er, siom enfawr clywed fod o ddim yn son am ei gyfweliad enwog efo CB yn San Marino(?) #cachwr

So the new man is Malofeev?

[The Sea-gull]

Do you have a size issue you want to discuss ?

A border line threat following a bit of banter. Chill out.

[Aldo]

No but he'll arrive by helicopter. Sorry nope you can stick your Helicopter btw. After the last time this happened. Still got the mental scars from that day and his reign. :-D

[DJ HIBBY]

Whilst not wholly against the appointment of Terry Butcher in principle, if it does go ahead this soon, I cant help but think the decision has been rushed since Pat only left on Friday. This is unless the board have been working on a new manager in ancitipation of Pat resigning/being sacked. Personally, I would liked to see us take our time, do all the research and explore all avenues before appointing the next manager.

If the right man is still Terry Butcher at the end of the process then go ahead and appoint him. My only point is I would have liked to see us explore outside of Scotland for the next manager for a possible continental coach or someone from down south with a good track record.

That being said, it wouldnt be unlike Hibs to throw a massive curveball and appoint someone else. We all had Steve Clarke taking over instead we get Calderclown

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

TB or not TB, that is the question....
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them?

[Hibby70]

A border line threat following a bit of banter. Chill out.

Borderline threat ??? I think it's you that needs to chill out.

[Hermit Crab]

Sorry nope you can stick your Helicopter btw. After the last time this happened.
Still got the mental scars from that day and his reign.

Hot air balloon then, a strong southerly breeze should get him down here quick enough. :D

[PeeJay]

One thing I have been thinking about this potential scenario is Butcher's ICT teams success is based on pace, and using it to counter attack. What will he do if he inherits our squad?


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Maybe he'll just be a good manager and make use of the players and potential he has on hand ... be a novel approach instead of us all waiting for the usual transfer window nonsense...

[brog]

A border line threat following a bit of banter. Chill out.

I think he was referring to the fact you said "wee" twice in about 3 words. I think chilling is good all round.

[Aldo]

Hot air balloon then, a strong southerly breeze should get him down here quick enough. :D

That's better. But defo no helicopters.

[The Sea-gull]

Borderline threat ??? I think it's you that needs to chill out.

That's how his post came accross.

[Golden Bear]

Maybe existing contractual agreements prevent any/all of the parties from making official statements.

It seems mighty strange that the story has been leaked in the first place though.

[JimBHibees]

Hot air balloon then, a strong southerly breeze should get him down here quick enough. :D

If it was a Southerly breeze would he not end up in the Faroes. :greengrin

[The Sea-gull]

I think he was referring to the fact you said "wee" twice in about 3 words. I think chilling is good all round.

Maybe I picked it up wrong then.

[Hibby70]

That's how his post came accross.

Maybe to you. You're reading too much into the word discuss.

[greenpaper55]

BBC radio Scotland never mentioned it and that was Heather Dewer !, more sport to follow.

[hibbytam]

Didn't Fenlon tell Petrie after the Aberdeen game? That would mean an extra few days looking. And I would have thought the board were probably preparing for it anyway, though perhaps a little further down the line.

[The Harp Awakes]

Sounds like the deal has been done by intermediaries/agents. All that's to be sorted is compo which shouldn't amount to much given his contract is up at the end of the season. Tel may have a clause in his contract allowing contact from other clubs after a certain date meaning hibs don't need to make an official approach to ICT.

[One Day Soon]

So the new man is Malofeev?

Or Ivor the Engine

[Captain Trips]

Whilst not wholly against the appointment of Terry Butcher in principle, if it does go ahead this soon, I cant help but think the decision has been rushed since Pat only left on Friday. This is unless the board have been working on a new manager in ancitipation of Pat resigning/being sacked. Personally, I would liked to see us take our time, do all the research and explore all avenues before appointing the next manager.

If the right man is still Terry Butcher at the end of the process then go ahead and appoint him. My only point is I would have liked to see us explore outside of Scotland for the next manager for a possible continental coach or someone from down south with a good track record.

That being said, it wouldnt be unlike Hibs to throw a massive curveball and appoint someone else. We all had Steve Clarke taking over instead we get Calderclown

I would like to assume that Hibs had done all that but I just do not see how if the only time they had been looking was since PF left. Im just very unsure TB is the answer here.

[Hermit Crab]

If it was a Southerly breeze would he not end up in the Faroes. :greengrin

I deleted northerly and put in southerly for some reason. Oops.

[Leithenhibby]

BBC Sport News - Not a mention of TB..... 2 minutes ago!

[Golden Bear]

BBC radio Scotland never mentioned it and that was Heather Dewer !, more sport to follow.

:agree:

The litigation lawyers are now queing up for business.

[brian6-2]

i cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would be against the idea of terry butcher as manager of our club. crazy.

[yekimevol]

I honestly think that they have been thinking about it, since the start of the season. Paddy had until the end of the season on his contract and there has been pressure on him since the cup final.

They would have already, done there research and had a wishlist of new managers.

[The Harp Awakes]

Sounds like the deal has been done by intermediaries/agents. All that's to be sorted is compo which shouldn't amount to much given his contract is up at the end of the season. Tel may have a clause in his contract allowing contact from other clubs after a certain date meaning hibs don't need to make an official approach to ICT.

[blackpoolhibs]

i cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would be against the idea of terry butcher as manager of our club. crazy.

I can, he's been sacked from every job he's had bar his current one.

[Andy74]

A border line threat following a bit of banter. Chill out.

What threat?

Edit: Sorry, see a few have made same point. I wasn't inviting you round for the discussion :)

[greenpaper55]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24809195

BBC updated a wee bit now saying "as yet no contact between the clubs" looks like this could drag out.

[erin go bragh]

i cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would be against the idea of terry butcher as manager of our club. crazy.

He knocked back Sheffield Utd and has been linked with the Middlesburgh job , would be a coup if we do indeed get him imo.

Ggtth

[JimBHibees]

I honestly think that they have been thinking about it, since the start of the season. Paddy had until the end of the season on his contract and there has been pressure on him since the cup final.

They would have already, done there research and had a wishlist of new managers.

Yep no way that since Pat leaving has been the first time that a successor would have been thought about.

[hibeeleicester]

How unimaginative!

[7-Heaven]

i cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would be against the idea of terry butcher as manager of our club. crazy.

Doesn't matter who we get someone will be against it

[RickyS]

He knocked back Sheffield Utd and has been linked with the Middlesburgh job , would be a coup if we do indeed get him imo.

Ggtth

that was McCall

[QMU-1875]

Great news! How anyone can see this as a negative is beyond me, the man has turned caley from SPL relegation material into top 4 contenders. Great bit of business!

[hfcok]

I can, he's been sacked from every job he's had bar his current one.

Most managers get sacked or get asked to leave in their career,unless its their first managers job,even Fergie got sacked in his early part.

[Andy74]

Most managers get sacked or get asked to leave in their career,unless its their first managers job,even Fergie got sacked in his early part.

From every job ?

[jamieross]

He knocked back Sheffield Utd and has been linked with the Middlesburgh job , would be a coup if we do indeed get him imo.

Ggtth

Was it not Barnsley?

[BroxburnHibee]

Nothing mentioned on Radio Scotland's 5pm bulletin.

[Saorsa]

So the BBC have said it, ICT have denied it, think I'll wait until Hibs say it.

[Aldo]

Was it not Barnsley?

It was.

[brian6-2]

I can, he's been sacked from every job he's had bar his current one.

so you wouldnt take a manager who has turned ICT around, and went a whole season with them being unbeaten away from home? has nurtured thier youngsters into top class players and brought in players like billy mckay?

ive had around 6 or 7 hibbies that dont go anymore say they will go and buy half season tickets the minute butcher is appointed. in my opinion its a clever forward thinking appointment.

i bet your team kenny shiels? mr anti football.

[The Sea-gull]

What threat?

Edit: Sorry, see a few have made same point. I wasn't inviting you round for the discussion :)

:greengrin Sorry, my bad. Totally mis-interpreted the post. I'm off to chill out now!

[erin go bragh]

Was it not Barnsley?

My bad , yes it was Barnsley . Was McCall that knocked back Sheffield Wed .

Ggtth

[Heisenberg]

http://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/Sport/Football/Butcher-denies-link-to-Hibs-04112013.htm

[Andy74]

:greengrin Sorry, my bad. Totally mis-interpreted the post. I'm off to chill out now!

Ha! No bother!

[Aldo]

My bad , yes it was Barnsley . Was McCall that knocked back Sheffield Wed . Ggtth

UTD... egb not Wed mate. ;-)

[erin go bragh]

that was McCall

Your right mate , it were Barnsley Butcher kb .

Ggtth

[Pretty Boy]

http://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/Sport/Football/Butcher-denies-link-to-Hibs-04112013.htm

Something fishy going on here.

[down-the-slope]

BBC1 news summary (between Antiques road trip and pointless....Yes I know :greengrin) only sport bit was 'Terry Butcher moves closer to going to ER'............


:hmmm:

meanwhile in the rod bunker....he strokes his pussy /tache knowingly

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[Monts]

I suppose it's also possible that butcher had been lined up for the end of the season when both his and pats contracts were up. That would make personal terms very easy to confirm if they had already been discussed for next season

[semaj64]

I honestly think that they have been thinking about it, since the start of the season. Paddy had until the end of the season on his contract and there has been pressure on him since the cup final.

They would have already, done there research and had a wishlist of new managers.

Yes agree, the board I think would have been looking at the end of the season, Pat was brought in to do a 'short term' job but results have meant bringing this forward

[DJ HIBBY]

Yep no way that since Pat leaving has been the first time that a successor would have been thought about.

My only concern is that I hope we arent being short-sighted in simply plucking an obvious choice from another SPL team. Would have liked to see us cast globally to see what is out there, this am sure would take time. As others have said, perhaps Hibs have done this already

[TowerHibs]

From every job ?

wow andy, u've really taken pat's leaving bad. everything since has been poor, boring and against the grain. at least you used to have some substance to ur posts.

large dollape of ketchup for the rather large chip on your shoulder. chin up

[Mikey]

Something fishy going on here.

There is. I think there's an element of someone making sure clubs know he's available.

Middlesborough for instance.........

[blackpoolhibs]

so you wouldnt take a manager who has turned ICT around, and went a whole season with them being unbeaten away from home? has nurtured thier youngsters into top class players and brought in players like billy mckay?

ive had around 6 or 7 hibbies that dont go anymore say they will go and buy half season tickets the minute butcher is appointed. in my opinion its a clever forward thinking appointment.

i bet your team kenny shiels? mr anti football.

Where do you get all that from my answer to the question, (i cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would be against the idea of terry butcher as manager of our club. crazy.)

Being sacked from every job he's ever had in football management might make some folk think he's not the next messiah?

For your information, i have not said either way on Butcher or indeed Sheils? You really need to read whats written first before having a pop. :faf:

[Andy74]

wow andy, u've really taken pat's leaving bad. everything since has been poor, boring and against the grain. at least you used to have some substance to ur posts.

large dollape of ketchup for the rather large chip on your shoulder. chin up

Nothing to do with the previous manager.

I'm not convinced by Butcher's record and I don't think his style of play will suit many here.

If he arrived he'd get my support though.

[Golden Bear]

5:29 and the reporter on Radio Scotland repeats that personal terms have been agreed.

[brian6-2]

Where do you get all that from my answer to the question, (i cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would be against the idea of terry butcher as manager of our club. crazy.)

Being sacked from every job he's ever had in football management might make some folk think he's not the next messiah?

For your information, i have not said either way on Butcher or indeed Sheils? You really need to read whats written first before having a pop. :faf:

ok then, who would you prefer was the next manager of our club?

[greenpaper55]

Heather Dewar now mentioned the agreed terms but ICT not had any contact, if she has got this wrong she will get her jotters !.

[blackpoolhibs]

ok then, who would you prefer was the next manager of our club?

I don't know our finances or who is available or indeed who'd want it? :confused:

[J-C]

Nothing to do with the previous manager.

I'm not convinced by Butcher's record and I don't think his style of play will suit many here.

If he arrived he'd get my support though.


And what style of football is that Andy?? from what I've seen of ICT, it's a hell of s lot better than the tripe we've been getting, so winning games and playing decent football isn't enough for you. :confused:

[The_Horde]

I live in Inverness I work in a pub part-time Maurice Malpas comes in almost every weekend for a meal with his wife, believe me they're coming ;-)

Is there a strong possibility that pat butcher could be the next steve clark?

[Leithenhibby]

Something fishy going on here.

It's a strange one, for sure ......

"Butcher, however, gives his views on events in tomorrow's Inverness Courier".

[Phil D. Rolls]

It's a strange one, for sure ......

"Butcher, however, gives his views on events in tomorrow's Inverness Courier".

What events though?

[brian6-2]

I don't know our finances or who is available or indeed who'd want it? :confused:

well, clearly terry butcher. kenny shiels. and the spanish geezer. and a few more.

looks like it will be butcher that gets it anyway. would you agree with that appointment?

[Fergus52]

ok then, who would you prefer was the next manager of our club?

That tapia guy would be much better than butcher

[Leithenhibby]

What events though?

His Goodbyes :wink:

[bad_news_boab]

Ive got some bad news....It has to be butcher in my opinion. Who else could deal with the mince we have in the squad?

[AgentDaleCooper]

Ive got some bad news....It has to be butcher in my opinion. Who else could deal with the mince we have in the squad?

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[blackpoolhibs]

well, clearly terry butcher. kenny shiels. and the spanish geezer. and a few more.

looks like it will be butcher that gets it anyway. would you agree with that appointment?

I'd agree with Butcher, i'd agree with Sheils, i'd agree with anyone they appointed unless it was Levein or anyone connected with that lot.

And the reason i'd agree with it is because i have no choice, what else can i do?

But it makes no difference if i agree or not, the club will appoint who they think is the right man not me or you?

[brian6-2]

That tapia guy would be much better than butcher

i suppose he's got more experience than butcher in the SPL, not only managing but playing. :confused:

As with shiels, if we appointed Tappia we would be in the same position in 1/2 years that we are now.

Id rather we had the stability of a proven manager in our league thats tuned a team from nothing into one of the strongest in the country.

[500miles]

I can, he's been sacked from every job he's had bar his current one.

To be fair, I remember him being Motherwell manager for a decent length of time. Every manager has a shelf life, particularly when the club is in turmoil like Well were at the time. They played some decent football at the time too if I remember correctly. Top six finishes during admin and a Scottish Cup Final? Fairly successful.

Things were a bit poisonous at Brentford. The former manager was highly popular and the whole situation was a bit odd.

He's been successful in Scotland.

[brian6-2]

I'd agree with Butcher, i'd agree with Sheils, i'd agree with anyone they appointed unless it was Levein or anyone connected with that lot.

And the reason i'd agree with it is because i have no choice, what else can i do?

But it makes no difference if i agree or not, the club will appoint who they think is the right man not me or you?

Of course thats the case, i just think its time for solidarity at the club. Terry Butcher is the man, in my opinion to change our fortunes round but he needs time. he's taken his time at ICT but he's there or there abouts now. he know the league inside out and i think for both parties TB and hibs this is a cracking move.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i'd rather have Tapas than Tapia

[Heisenberg]

Looks like the BBC have ****ed up..

Official ICTFC‏@ICTFC3m (http://www.hibs.net/ICTFC/status/397418956249522176)A statement on todays (non) events will be issued shortly.

[Hermit Crab]

He knocked back Sheffield Utd and has been linked with the Middlesburgh job , would be a coup if we do indeed get him imo.

Ggtth

No he didn't. He knocked back Barnsley.

[Hermit Crab]

Looks like the BBC have ****ed up..

Official ICTFC‏@ICTFC3m (http://www.hibs.net/ICTFC/status/397418956249522176)A statement on todays (non) events will be issued shortly.

That's chick dung for you.

[Mikey]

Looks like the BBC have ****ed up..

Official ICTFC‏@ICTFC3m (http://www.hibs.net/ICTFC/status/397418956249522176)A statement on todays (non) events will be issued shortly.

I think there's a real chance that the BBC are being used here. Someone wants clubs to know that Butcher's contract is up in the summer.

Might be wrong though.

[blackpoolhibs]

Of course thats the case, i just think its time for solidarity at the club. Terry Butcher is the man, in my opinion to change our fortunes round but he needs time. he's taken his time at ICT but he's there or there abouts now. he know the league inside out and i think for both parties TB and hibs this is a cracking move.

So can you now understand why, a manager who's been sacked from EVERY job he's been in as a manager, that some folk might not see him as the right man?

[allezsauzee]

The 'Butcher agrees terms with Hibs' headline is correct, however Chic Young has got his wires crossed and it's a new supplier of half time pies we've signed up.

[northgreen24]

I think there's a real chance that the BBC are being used here. Someone wants clubs to know that Butcher's contract is up in the summer.

Might be wrong though.

Isnt it what we already know. TB may well have agreed terms with Hibs but nothing has happened between the clubs. He is out of contact at the end of the season so if he wants to go to us or anywhere else he will decide not Inverness, I know this is not how it shoud be done but like player transfers they say one thing one day and the next they are off

[brian6-2]

So can you now understand why, a manager who's been sacked from EVERY job he's been in as a manager, that some folk might not see him as the right man?

Why do the majority of us, as hibs fans always try to point out the negatives? alex ferguson was a game away from the chop at united. we need to look at that and give someone time. going by the majority of posts on here his heads on the block before hes even got the job and thats disgusting.

so what if he's been sacked in his other jobs, the man has single handedly turned the fortunes of that club around, got them playing nice attractive football, bringing through quality youngsters, signing good players. why would you possibly be against that? the fact he went a callender year unbeaten away from home as well.

i think if you look at what he is doing NOW and not in the past then we are both onto a winner mate :thumbsup:

[Hibee87]

Just went past the stadium and there is 2 media vans there and camera set up at the front doors. Defo going to be a live broadcast (assuming on BBC at 6:30ish)

Edit: STV news on now say they will be live from easter road with the headline, Butcher hibs manager - 'is the inveness manager about to be appointed at hibs?'

think they normally do sport about quarter past?

[Mikey]

In the meantime, I'd just like to thank the BBC for this afternoon's advertising income.

:nanafunk:

[Heisenberg]

I think there's a real chance that the BBC are being used here. Someone wants clubs to know that Butcher's contract is up in the summer.

Might be wrong though.


Could be correct. ICT statement:


Statement from ICTFC (http://www.hibs.net/news/club-news/1089-statement-from-ictfc) 04 November 2013


Inverness Caledonian Thistle FC made it clear this evening (Monday) that, despite speculation to the contrary, no club has contacted them to ask for permission to approach manager Terry Butcher.

Club Chairman Kenny Cameron said: "We are extremely unhappy about a story on the BBC Scotland website in relation to our manager. Wherever this has come from, it is completely untrue.

"There has been no approach to this club for Terry Butcher's services and we look forward to him continuing the excellent job he has been doing in Inverness..


Terry took training this afternoon and following the session he assured the club chairman that he has not spoken to any other club.
"Speculation on managerial vacancies is, to an extent, inevitable. But to state as a fact something that is totally untrue is unworthy of BBC Scotland."

[Mikey]

Could be correct. ICT statement:


Statement from ICTFC (http://www.hibs.net/news/club-news/1089-statement-from-ictfc) 04 November 2013


Inverness Caledonian Thistle FC made it clear this evening (Monday) that, despite speculation to the contrary, no club has contacted them to ask for permission to approach manager Terry Butcher.

Club Chairman Kenny Cameron said: "We are extremely unhappy about a story on the BBC Scotland website in relation to our manager. Wherever this has come from, it is completely untrue.

"There has been no approach to this club for Terry Butcher's services and we look forward to him continuing the excellent job he has been doing in Inverness..


Terry took training this afternoon and following the session he assured the club chairman that he has not spoken to any other club.
"Speculation on managerial vacancies is, to an extent, inevitable. But to state as a fact something that is totally untrue is unworthy of BBC Scotland."

And on top of that, I'm not convinced that Hibs would speak to him without ICT's premission.

I reckon they've (the BBC) been had.


Cue an announcement from Hibs tomorrow morning :greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

Why do the majority of us, as hibs fans always try to point out the negatives? alex ferguson was a game away from the chop at united. we need to look at that and give someone time. going by the majority of posts on here his heads on the block before hes even got the job and thats disgusting.

so what if he's been sacked in his other jobs, the man has single handedly turned the fortunes of that club around, got them playing nice attractive football, bringing through quality youngsters, signing good players. why would you possibly be against that? the fact he went a callender year unbeaten away from home as well.

i think if you look at what he is doing NOW and not in the past then we are both onto a winner mate :thumbsup:

You said you couldnt understand why anyone would be against him getting the job, i pointed out his record. I now just expect you to understand why SOME people may not want him. It seems the majority of folk here do want him, so the majority of folk are not being negative?

Why do some folk exaggerate things and tell complete lies to try and get their point over?

[SaulGoodman]

That statement doesn't rule out anything tbh

[HibeeMG]

You said you couldnt understand why anyone would be against him getting the job, i pointed out his record. I now just expect you to understand why SOME people may not want him. It seems the majority of folk here do want him, so the majority of folk are not being negative?

Why do some folk exaggerate things and tell complete lies to try and get their point over?

Everyone does it G. :wink:

[greenlex]

Could be correct. ICT statement:


Statement from ICTFC (http://www.hibs.net/news/club-news/1089-statement-from-ictfc) 04 November 2013


Inverness Caledonian Thistle FC made it clear this evening (Monday) that, despite speculation to the contrary, no club has contacted them to ask for permission to approach manager Terry Butcher.

Club Chairman Kenny Cameron said: "We are extremely unhappy about a story on the BBC Scotland website in relation to our manager. Wherever this has come from, it is completely untrue.

"There has been no approach to this club for Terry Butcher's services and we look forward to him continuing the excellent job he has been doing in Inverness..


Terry took training this afternoon and following the session he assured the club chairman that he has not spoken to any other club.
"Speculation on managerial vacancies is, to an extent, inevitable. But to state as a fact something that is totally untrue is unworthy of BBC Scotland."Might be clutching at straws here but if Hibs representatives have been speaking to his representatives then effectively neither parties have officially spoken to each other. The story has got to have a bit of substance. The BBC dont usually run with hearsay.

[AlbertK86]

One thing I have been thinking about this potential scenario is Butcher's ICT teams success is based on pace, and using it to counter attack. What will he do if he inherits our squad? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Hopefully bring Mackay and Doran with him come January !!!

[blackpoolhibs]

Everyone does it G. :wink:


:wink:
Not so bloody obvious as that last post, where i could pick holes in every sentence. :faf:

[offshorehibby]

ICT chairman saying they have had no approach for their manager.

[joe breezy]

Hopefully bring Mackay and Doran with him come January !!!

Gary Medals MacKay

[EastCalderHibby]

UTD... egb not Wed mate. ;-)

stv er in 5 mins

[Onion]

That Rodders is a wily old fox. Says yesterday that we will be taking our time and won't be rushed into anything. Agrees personal terms with Butcher today.

I'm partial to the odd criticism of Rodders but I bet he'd be a mean poker player.

If you roll the dice often enough eventually you'll get a double six.

[Heisenberg]

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/inverness/247088-inverness-set-to-turn-down-any-hibernian-approach-for-manager-terry-butcher/

[green glory]

Chick Young predicted a couple of weeks ago Butcher would join Hibs. Looks to me he's used Heather Dewer to break the story. Call me cynical.

Still hope it's true though.

[hibsbollah]

I have a feeling this is all going to be a load of baws.

[Golden Bear]

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/inverness/247088-inverness-set-to-turn-down-any-hibernian-approach-for-manager-terry-butcher/

Looks like we're being used by TB as some sort of bargaining tool in his new contract negotiations with ITC.

[WhileTheChief..]

Seems to be a lot of forensic analysis going on here. Butcher will be our manager, just formalities to complete.

I'm delighted by this. I think Petrie has finally got this one right and this is the start of something exciting and brilliant!!

Can't really explain why but I think the constant doom and gloom of the last 5 years will soon be quickly forgotten and we can all kick on like we thought we would back in 2007.

Bring it on :thumbsup:

[GreenArmy1875]

I have a feeling this is all going to be a load of baws.

Got to agree, Hope we are wrong though

[Mikey]

STV understands chairman Kenny Cameron and Butcher held talks today, with the issue of a new contract topping the agenda.

It is believed both parties agreed to continue those talks tomorrow.

Butcher, whose current deal expires in the summer is mulling over a new two year deal, with the option of a further year.


Butcher - Here's what Hibs have offered me, can you match it?

[merritthibees]

Seems to be a lot of forensic analysis going on here. Butcher will be our manager, just formalities to complete.

I'm delighted by this. I think Petrie has finally got this one right and this is the start of something exciting and brilliant!!

Can't really explain why but I think the constant doom and gloom of the last 5 years will soon be quickly forgotten and we can all kick on like we thought we would back in 2007.

Bring it on :thumbsup:

You obviously know something nobody else knows... Care to share? Or are you talking mince!

[Moulin Yarns]

BBC1 news summary (between Antiques road trip and pointless....Yes I know :greengrin) only sport bit was 'Terry Butcher moves closer to going to ER'............


:hmmm:

meanwhile in the rod bunker....he strokes his pussy /tache knowingly

11249

I would rather he was stroking a Brazilian

[One Day Soon]

Fenlon out; Butcher in, out shake it all about.

[One Day Soon]

I would rather he was stroking a Brazilian

The horror, you can't mean his own surely?

[green.and.white]

Saturday should be interesting.

IMO i wouldn't be surprised if a 2-0 caley win (or the like) on Saturday would signal the end of any rumour of him coming here before the end of the season. With a realistic shot at winning the league cup thrown in, I doubt he would walk away sooner.

[joe breezy]

I would rather he was stroking a Brazilian

I'd rather I was stroking a Brazilian

[Billy Whizz]

Do Hibs not normally interview a few candidates. I hardly think they have been able to do this in such a short space of time, unless they have no doubt that Butcher is their no 1 choice

[#FromTheCapital]

Looks like a load of pish to me, too many conflicting reports and BBC are the only ones saying its a done deal. Hibs have said they'll take time to pick a new manager an that ties in with the caley statement saying they or butcher haven't been approached. Fairly certain Nicol will still be in charge at the weekend.

[rcarter1]

What about the spanish guy in the evening news. Spanish type football with good contacts... :flag:

[clerriehibs]

Can't believe Petrie would do anything other than play this by the rules.

So, unless he knows of a clause in butcher's contract where he can talk to anyone he looked, I can't see this being true.

[Tyler Durden]

Looks like a load of pish to me, too many conflicting reports and BBC are the only ones saying its a done deal. Hibs have said they'll take time to pick a new manager an that ties in with the caley statement saying they or butcher haven't been approached. Fairly certain Nicol will still be in charge at the weekend.

Reporting Scotland are running with it.

Surely they need to elaborate on what they're basing this agreement of terms on? Strange chain of events whatever the truth is.

[ancienthibby]

Jim Spence on Beeb Radio now saying that he thinks the TB signing story is due to agents at work!!

[Part/Time Supporter]

So can you now understand why, a manager who's been sacked from EVERY job he's been in as a manager, that some folk might not see him as the right man?

Why do you keep saying that?

He wasn't sacked by Motherwell.

At least get your facts right before going off on one.

[Heisenberg]

BBC Sportsound say the story put out by the sports reporter is being stood by #allverycomplex

[Jim44]

Sounds like the BBC journo has been duped. This is turning into a mess which we could do without at this present time.

[ancienthibby]

Jim Spence on Beeb Radio now saying that he thinks the TB signing story is due to agents at work!!

Spence now saying it would take £150k to get 'Team Butcher' !!

[WhileTheChief..]

Its on BBC radio right now. Jim Spence saying compo of between £100- £150k, from a senior source at ICT.

I know this goes against the ICT statement but as they are discussing we all know how these things work.

If representatives from Hibs have spoken to representatives of TB then no direct contact has been made, hence the statement.

He's coming :)

[Golden Bear]

Live at ER shortly - BBC Scotland. The saga continues.

[One Day Soon]

BBC Sportsound say the story put out by the sports reporter are being stood by #allverycomplex

#allveryeffedup

Is it possible, in a Hibernian life where the truth is stranger than fiction, that the long running saga of Pat Fenlon's evident failure and the need for him to go could actually be eclipsed by a protracted managerial appointment episode? Could we actually go from a hoor of a frying pan into an absolute canute of a fire?

And really what kind of responsible reporting is this from the BBC? Butcher's position at ICT is on the line here if they have set their mouths running without bona fide evidence/sources.

[worcesterhibby]

:hahaha::hahaha:
The BBC dont usually run with hearsay. :rotflmao::rotflmao:.

[brog]

Seems to be a lot of forensic analysis going on here. Butcher will be our manager, just formalities to complete.

I'm delighted by this. I think Petrie has finally got this one right and this is the start of something exciting and brilliant!!

Can't really explain why but I think the constant doom and gloom of the last 5 years will soon be quickly forgotten and we can all kick on like we thought we would back in 2007.

Bring it on :thumbsup:

Agreed, can't believe people saying Butcher is behind it & other conspiracy theories. If there's any posturing I expect it to come from ICT to try & boost their compo.

[hibsbollah]

What about the spanish guy in the evening news. Spanish type football with good contacts... :flag:

If hes not bessie mates with Biscuits, Spency, and the other lickspittle yellow cardie wearing pustules, he's an irrelevance.

Christ I wish we could grow a pair and appoint a really interesting candidate :grr:

[One Day Soon]

Just a thought, if it is Butcher we better be bringing the rest of his coaching staff too. An on-the-cheap Terry without Maurice option would not be a good idea....


If hes not bessie mates with Biscuits, Spency, and the other lickspittle yellow cardie wearing pustules, he's an irrelevance.

Christ I wish we could grow a pair and appoint a really interesting candidate :grr:

Paulo Di Canio?

[snooky]

:singing: "Oh what a circus oh what a show ....." - Che Guevara (David Essex)

[Heisenberg]

Just a thought, if it is Butcher we better be bringing the rest of his coaching staff too. An on-the-cheap Terry without Maurice option would not be a good idea....

That's my thoughts too. We'd need the full lot of them (Butcher, Malpas, Marsella)

[HibbySpurs]

Spence now saying it would take £150k to get 'Team Butcher' !!

And this is a problem:confused:


We spent 50K more than that on Collins:rolleyes:

Petrie, Get it sorted......:deal:

[hibsbollah]

Paulo Di Canio?

He'd make the trams run on time, i'll tell you that :grr:

[One Day Soon]

That's my thoughts too. We'd need the full lot of them (Butcher, Malpas, Marsella)

Yep: Butcher, Baker and Candlestick Maker.


And this is a problem:confused:


We spent 50K more than that on Collins:rolleyes:

Petrie, Get it sorted......:deal:

Don't start that debate again...


He'd make the trams run on time, i'll tell you that :grr:

Aye, our entire Squadristi would be a LOT tougher.

[Jim44]

it's a "BBC has learned" story now so could be BS.

[greenlex]

BBC using the term "have learned" rather than the usual "Understands " pish. Interesting

[Hermit Crab]

And this is a problem:confused:


We spent 50K more than that on Collins:rolleyes:

Petrie, Get it sorted......:deal:

Allegedly spent 50k more ;)

[One Day Soon]

The only thing presently missing from this journalistic triumph is an informed contribution from Jim Traynor. I still remember him saying Hibs fans should be grateful for Bobby Williamson.

[snooky]

He'd make the trams run on time, i'll tell you that :grr:

Aye and if they extend the trams to Fisherraw and they can call the line Musselline :wink:

[Hermit Crab]

Aye and if they extend the trams to Fisherraw and they can call the line Musselline :wink:

I see what you did there.

[HiBremian]

He'd make the trams run on time, i'll tell you that :grr:

Aye, but it'd get really complicated when the fans start the inevitable "Canio out, Butcher in" campaign. All the way to Milan to string him up?


Ach well, maybe the Leith San Siro will do....


Aye and if they extend the trams to Fisherraw and they can call the line Musselline :wink:

Heehee...

[Jonnyboy]

Butcher has been sacked pretty much every where he's went or forced out the door except Motherwell and ICT and even then he managed to get Cally relegated. I'm of the opinion that ICT are having a real purple patch at the moment and not convinced on Butcher as a whole. Take away McKay from that team and they'd struggle just like we are with out Leigh.

To be fair, most managers are

[Billy Whizz]

Eric Black in the Sky studio for Aberdeen v Partick. Looking very smart, as if he's also up for an interview.
Did he turn down Hearts a few years ago?

[Stuarty27]

Butcher in my opinion would be a great appointment and is exactly what we need. On paper we have a decent side but no backbone or fight when we go a goal down. Butch would install a winning mentality.

[Frazerbob]

I can't get the "Souness is homosexual" song out my head.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

I can't get the "Souness is homosexual" song out my head.

:agree:

[Squealing pig]

Welcome terry, gd appointment

[Spike Mandela]

Butcher in my opinion would be a great appointment and is exactly what we need. On paper we have a decent side but no backbone or fight when we go a goal down. Butch would install a winning mentality.

There's that myth again.......................:rolleyes:

[green glory]

Tel's definitely the guy for us...

@TerryButcher_: I have been approached to become an institutional investor in Rangers. This ought to cover my 10% share. http://t.co/rRJKuCt1pL

[Aldo]

I can't get the "Souness is homosexual" song out my head.

Forgot bout that one. Quality

[blackpoolhibs]

Why do you keep saying that?

He wasn't sacked by Motherwell.

At least get your facts right before going off on one.

Sorry i was under the impression he was sacked at motherwell, my mistake. So he's been sacked at every club except Motherwell then. From Sunderland to Australia he's been punted, and ICT is the only place he'd be regarded as a success, or have i got that wrong too?

I knew i'd read his record on here somewhere.
Coventry - Sacked Win % 33
Sunderland - Sacked Win % 30
Motherwell - Resigned Win % 34
Sydney FC - Sacked Win % 39
Brentford - Sacked Win % 21
Scotland - Sacked

You were right he was not sacked at Motherwell, but i can understand why some folk would not be impressed with his record, and might not think he's the man for the job.

[Jack Hackett]

Tel's definitely the guy for us...

@TerryButcher_: I have been approached to become an institutional investor in Rangers. This ought to cover my 10% share. http://t.co/rRJKuCt1pL

:faf:

No love lost there then :greengrin

[Beefster]

Sorry i was under the impression he was sacked at motherwell, my mistake. So he's been sacked at every club except Motherwell then. From Sunderland to Australia he's been punted, and ICT is the only place he'd be regarded as a success, or have i got that wrong too?

I knew i'd read his record on here somewhere.
Coventry - Sacked Win % 33
Sunderland - Sacked Win % 30
Motherwell - Resigned Win % 34
Sydney FC - Sacked Win % 39
Brentford - Sacked Win % 21
Scotland - Sacked

You were right he was not sacked at Motherwell, but i can understand why some folk would not be impressed with his record, and might not think he's the man for the job.

Or you could look at it as he's never been sacked in the Scottish domestic game despite having managed in it for almost 9 years?

[blackpoolhibs]

Or you could look at it as he's never been sacked in the Scottish domestic game despite having managed in it for almost 9 years?

You could also say that, i'm only posting because brian couldn't understand why anyone wouldn't want him, when his record of sackings could be a reason?

[Phil D. Rolls]

Butcher in my opinion would be a great appointment and is exactly what we need. On paper we have a decent side but no backbone or fight when we go a goal down. Butch would install a winning mentality.

On paper maybe, but we play on grass.

[jdships]

I have to be absolutely honest and say " The Jury's Out" for me on this appointment ( if it comes to pass) but wish the man well

His 37% success rate overall in his management career before ICT doesn't excite me and doesn't have me desperate to be at every home game again
Time will tell ( as usual)

:confused:


On paper maybe, but we play on grass.


THE response of the day :top marks

[Jim44]

The upbeat, promising feel of this thread seems to have lost it's impetus. The 'Butcher' thread is shaping up like our predictable match performances. Off to a decent start, things looking to be going our way, we begin to think this is our day, against the run of play we lose a goal, the heads go down, negativity rears it's ugly head and we end up losers yet again. A bit tenuous maybe but you know what I mean.

[Craig_in_Prague]

led to believe Hibs and TB have spoke yesterday, indirectly you'd imagine, surely Hibs play by the book.

[Jonnyboy]

Tel's definitely the guy for us...

@TerryButcher_: I have been approached to become an institutional investor in Rangers. This ought to cover my 10% share. http://t.co/rRJKuCt1pL

I see one of the responses is from Rowan King or should that be Ro W4nking?

[Iggy Pope]

Sorry i was under the impression he was sacked at motherwell, my mistake. So he's been sacked at every club except Motherwell then. From Sunderland to Australia he's been punted, and ICT is the only place he'd be regarded as a success, or have i got that wrong too?

I knew i'd read his record on here somewhere.
Coventry - Sacked Win % 33
Sunderland - Sacked Win % 30
Motherwell - Resigned Win % 34
Sydney FC - Sacked Win % 39
Brentford - Sacked Win % 21
Scotland - Sacked

You were right he was not sacked at Motherwell, but i can understand why some folk would not be impressed with his record, and might not think he's the man for the job.

Maybe the man at your team of the moment would be a better fit?
He's got a 50% sacked rate I reckon, notwithstanding his current tenure at the Dandies where he is positively rampant (apart from that pesky defeat by the Yams of course).

[jabis]

Sorry i was under the impression he was sacked at motherwell, my mistake. So he's been sacked at every club except Motherwell then. From Sunderland to Australia he's been punted, and ICT is the only place he'd be regarded as a success, or have i got that wrong too?

I knew i'd read his record on here somewhere.
Coventry - Sacked Win % 33
Sunderland - Sacked Win % 30
Motherwell - Resigned Win % 34
Sydney FC - Sacked Win % 39
Brentford - Sacked Win % 21
Scotland - Sacked

You were right he was not sacked at Motherwell, but i can understand why some folk would not be impressed with his record, and might not think he's the man for the job.

not even appointed,but you're on the case.Dodgy facts APU,and no doubt "I won't be back till butcher's out"
GGTTH
yours
deluded

[blackpoolhibs]

Maybe the man at your team of the moment would be a better fit?
He's got a 50% sacked rate I reckon, notwithstanding his current tenure at the Dandies where he is positively rampant (apart from that pesky defeat by the Yams of course).

Hardly my man or my team of the moment, although i suppose a 50% sacking rate is better than 85%. :wink:

[stantonhibby]

Hardly my man or my team of the moment, although i suppose a 50% sacking rate is better than 85%. :wink:

A stunning 27% win rate at Bristol City too!

[blackpoolhibs]

A stunning 27% win rate at Bristol City too!

He's done very well at ICT though, and some managers maybe take a while to learn what they need to make a success of things?

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

;3795247']Is there a strong possibility that pat butcher could be the next steve clark?

Surely even Rod couldnae appoint The Honey Monster! :-)

[stantonhibby]

He's done very well at ICT though, and some managers maybe take a while to learn what they need to make a success of things?

Eh?

[blackpoolhibs]

Eh?

He's done very well at ICT though, and some managers maybe take a while to learn what they need to make a success of things?

[jabis]

He's done very well at ICT though, and some managers maybe take a while to learn what they need to make a success of things?

Dear God ! we agree on something,it's like running a boarding house,you learn as you go along :greengrin

[stantonhibby]

A pishy team that most managers fail at (Mcinnes most recently, doing ok now huh)

So a bit like Brentford Coventry Sydney & Sunderland then ?

[Craig_in_Prague]

So a bit like Brentford Coventry Sydney & Sunderland then ?

Erm , yes. Lol

[stantonhibby]

He's done very well at ICT though, and some managers maybe take a while to learn what they need to make a success of things?

Was talking about McInnes.

[portycabbage]

The only thing presently missing from this journalistic triumph is an informed contribution from Jim Traynor. I still remember him saying Hibs fans should be grateful for Bobby Williamson.

:greengrin
Just goes to show you can combine any set of concepts into a sentence that's probably never been uttered or written before! I think he wrote his last informed contribution in tartan ink with a hen's-tooth pen on a unicorns horn whilst riding a flying pig over the blue moon to the giant ice-rink in hell. (The "informed" part is made up).

[H18sry]

11251 :na na:

[silverhibee]

Is Butcher in the running for the Boro job also. ?

[londonhibby]

Is Butcher in the running for the Boro job also. ?

Nowhere near, best you can get on him is 20/1, with Mark Venus looking a shoo-in at 5/4 followed closely by Ravanelli at 7/4 and Mourinho's old mucker Karanka at 4/1.

[Peevemor]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian/10426257/Hibernian-keen-to-tempt-Terry-Butcher-away-from-Caledonian-Thistle.html


Fenlon and his predecessor, Colin Calderwood, were uncomfortable dealing with the media and failed to reach out to the support.

Utter nonsense! Whatever failings PF has/had, communicating with the support wasn't one of them.

[Jonnyboy]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian/10426257/Hibernian-keen-to-tempt-Terry-Butcher-away-from-Caledonian-Thistle.html



Utter nonsense! Whatever failings PF has/had, communicating with the support wasn't one of them.

Indeed. As for Calderwood I think most fans were uncomfortable with him breathing :greengrin

[lord bunberry]

On paper maybe, but we play on grass.

Goc played on more than grass.

[hibees 7062]

Goc played on more than grass.

:faf:

[brydekirk]

Terry Butcher isn't coming to Hibs. If he leaves Caley it will be either for the right job in England or possibly Sevco.

Nae luck

[Centre Hawf]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian/10426257/Hibernian-keen-to-tempt-Terry-Butcher-away-from-Caledonian-Thistle.html



Utter nonsense! Whatever failings PF has/had, communicating with the support wasn't one of them.

I've heard form a number of folk that the media didn't take to Pat purely because he played his cards close to his chest and didn't let much away to them. For this he wasn't one of their "pals" and took every opportunity to turn the knife in the man and I can agree 100 percent when reading stories about us and Fenlon in general.

[Peevemor]

I've heard form a number of folk that the media didn't take to Pat purely because he played his cards close to his chest and didn't let much away to them. For this he wasn't one of their "pals" and took every opportunity to turn the knife in the man and I can agree 100 percent when reading stories about us and Fenlon in general.

I reckon the same goes for RP.

[Centre Hawf]

I reckon the same goes for RP.

I think this week will be different for our Rodders. Heard he's going to be up in front of the media quite often in the next few days.

[givescotlandfreedom]

I've heard form a number of folk that the media didn't take to Pat purely because he played his cards close to his chest and didn't let much away to them. For this he wasn't one of their "pals" and took every opportunity to turn the knife in the man and I can agree 100 percent when reading stories about us and Fenlon in general.

I liked that about Pat he worked for the football club and his players not them. Despite his failings he's a good bloke and retested the club with respect throughout.

[Dibben]

I think this week will be different for our Rodders. Heard he's going to be up in front of the media quite often in the next few days.

We can only wait and see!

[BoltonHibee]

Is Butcher in the running for the Boro job also. ?

His agent would like people and clubs to believe that he was in the running for both the Boro and Hibs jobs.

He is playing a blinder

[Bishop Hibee]

I'm not enthusiastic about Butcher if he's appointed but will support him as I do every Manager we get and hope to be proved wrong. I'd prefer Mowbray or a well thought of coach looking to step up to management.

[HibeeMG]

I'm not enthusiastic about Butcher if he's appointed but will support him as I do every Manager we get and hope to be proved wrong. I'd prefer Mowbray or a well thought of coach looking to step up to management.

I respect your opinion however I don't think Mowbray is any more though of than TB. In fact Mowbray's stock has fallen dramatically since he left Hibs.

I'd be very, very cautious about him coming back as, even although the style of football was great, he did have half a future Scotland team at his disposal. Some would say, in hindsight, that he should've acheived more in his time.

[wee 162]

I respect your opinion however I don't think Mowbray is any more though of than TB. In fact Mowbray's stock has fallen dramatically since he left Hibs.

I'd be very, very cautious about him coming back as, even although the style of football was great, he did have half a future Scotland team at his disposal. Some would say, in hindsight, that he should've acheived more in his time.
Some would be right imo. I'd also add that we suffered a few absolute drubbings off Hearts in his time which were the equal of anything Fenlon managed. 4-0, 4-0, and 4-1 in a single season springs to mind as being a particular lowlight... And I get that they were good that season, but there's no way on earth that Hibs side should have been suffering those types of defeats regularly.

[Gerard]

TB would be a good signing as our manager. Hibs would no longer be an easy team to take points off

[IanM]

If you look on ICT fans forum no one wants TB to leave. You come on here and its up for debate! 3rd place, 5 points off Celtic and one off second, a semi final to look forward to and what seems a scouting system we crave. I'm judging TB by this season performance. I hope we wrap this up

[drifter533814]

I suggested terry butcher as hibs manager before fenlon and was promptly informed that he was not good enough at the time, if I could be bothered I would post a link to the post. At least he knows more than one tactic

[Geo_1875]

TB would be a good signing as our manager. Hibs would no longer be an easy team to take points off

PF tried to make Hibs hard to beat and got hounded.

[erskine-hibby]

PF tried to make Hibs hard to beat and got hounded.

Didn't do a very good job on that front either eh?

[GreenLake]

Hibs would be hard to beat if we score 2 or 3 goals each game. That's Hibs class hard to beat.

[rcarter1]

I suggested terry butcher as hibs manager before fenlon and was promptly informed that he was not good enough at the time, if I could be bothered I would post a link to the post. At least he knows more than one tactic

There is every chance he has learned enough to be good enough now. He is a bit of a darling with the press, so that would be a new one for us. His general standing in the UK is probably pretty good, and it would be very interesting to see what kind of player he could find us with our budget.

[Part/Time Supporter]

I think we will hear more on this later today. Still have the suspicion that these rumours (both Middlesbrough and Hibs) have been a ruse by Butcher's agent to get a much better offer out of ICT. Of course, ICT could decide to stick with their existing offer and force Butcher to pursue another option.

It's odd that this story was first reported on Saturday, before the Hibs board had even met (Sunday) to discuss the vacancy. And we know that Petrie wouldn't blab to the press. Which heightens the suspicion that his agent is using interest from other clubs (real or imagined) as leverage.

[joe breezy]

I think we will hear more on this later today. Still have the suspicion that these rumours (both Middlesbrough and Hibs) have been a ruse by Butcher's agent to get a much better offer out of ICT. Of course, ICT could decide to stick with their existing offer and force Butcher to pursue another option.

It's odd that this story was first reported on Saturday, before the Hibs board had even met (Sunday) to discuss the vacancy. And we know that Petrie wouldn't blab to the press. Which heightens the suspicion that his agent is using interest from other clubs (real or imagined) as leverage.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/inverness-boss-terry-butcher-set-2677599

[JustSimplyHibs]

I think we will hear more on this later today. Still have the suspicion that these rumours (both Middlesbrough and Hibs) have been a ruse by Butcher's agent to get a much better offer out of ICT. Of course, ICT could decide to stick with their existing offer and force Butcher to pursue another option.

It's odd that this story was first reported on Saturday, before the Hibs board had even met (Sunday) to discuss the vacancy. And we know that Petrie wouldn't blab to the press. Which heightens the suspicion that his agent is using interest from other clubs (real or imagined) as leverage.


Or it could be Hibs sounding him and ICT out first - Hibs have not commented on the Butcher/ICT as yet.

[Treadstone]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/inverness-boss-terry-butcher-set-2677599

Nothing new there just looks like a space filler. Reporter even mentions 'official line' regarding Hibs, there is none.

[Flanny boy]

It's looking like butcher will be announced as hibs boss today
And he is the best we could hope for with the money available
good move hibs welcome aboard big terry :flag:

[blackpoolhibs]

It's looking like butcher will be announced as hibs boss today
And he is the best we could hope for with the money available
good move hibs welcome aboard big terry :flag:

Hows it going pal? :thumbsup: Welcome to dot net. :na na:

[The Sea-gull]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian/10426257/Hibernian-keen-to-tempt-Terry-Butcher-away-from-Caledonian-Thistle.html



Utter nonsense! Whatever failings PF has/had, communicating with the support wasn't one of them.

At least when Pat faced the media he didn't bore me into submission like Calderwood did. Calderwood often gave an air of "yes I know we are rubbish but I don't know how to sort it and don't plan to attempt to either".

Sometimes Pat got a raw deal as even after a win or an isolated defeat it was always questions along the lines of "things aren't really that great are they Pat?" Pat never got much credit for his isolated positives but I think that was his problem, the isolation. Everyone knew he was always wee patchy run, a thrashing or a defeat in a big game away from the knives coming out. I don't feel sorry for him because of that as it is a results driven business and his were not good enough.

I do think the media were a bit harsh on him at times though.

[Flanny boy]

Hows it going pal? :thumbsup: Welcome to dot net. :na na:
Haha cheers pal I love your profile photo :wink:

[blackpoolhibs]

Haha cheers pal I love your profile photo :wink:


He got me back eventually, have a look at his. :greengrin

[Flanny boy]

He got me back eventually, have a look at his. :greengrin
Where can I find it gasman

[Weststandwanab]

It's looking like butcher will be announced as hibs boss today
And he is the best we could hope for with the money available
good move hibs welcome aboard big terry :flag: Welcome to dot net Fb can you tell us why you think this will be the case ?

[Phil D. Rolls]

It's looking like butcher will be announced as hibs boss today
And he is the best we could hope for with the money available
good move hibs welcome aboard big terry :flag:

Yep, not much money to spend, but better than having none I suppose.

[TowerHibs]

Have heard TB and MM will be at Easter Road today

source is a player within the team, he did tell me TB had agreed terms yday before BBC reported it but ICT statement last night threw me off!

[CRAZYHIBBY]

I heard that butcher is on a list of potenial targets

[Phil D. Rolls]

I heard that butcher is on a list of potenial targets

Ya think?

[carnoustiehibee]

@OHenleyAlex: Business as usual for Terry Butcher as he took training with @ICTFC. No personal terms agreed with @HibernianFCClub he tells me

[Phil D. Rolls]

http://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/Sport/Football/No-personal-terms-agreed-with-Hibs-Butcher-04112013.htm

No further forward there then.


"I think I would be surprised because I don’t think there’s much difference between ourselves and Hibs," he said.

"Obviously, Hibs have a bigger fanbase, better training ground and everything, but I don’t think they are a better team than us.

Nick Ross says, Hibs are no bigger than us, apart from the fan base, and the stadium, and the training ground. What about the viaducts Nick?

[steviehibsleith]

I heard that butcher is on a list of potenial targets

Breaking news !

[The Gorf]

Sky sports news still saying that ICT denying contact. Butcher taking training as normal. My son works next to Paul Hanlons mum and she rcvd a txt from him yesterday saying he (TB) had agreed terms.

[nribs]

@OHenleyAlex: Business as usual for Terry Butcher as he took training with @ICTFC. No personal terms agreed with @HibernianFCClub he tells me Looks like it's going to have to be a helicopter job then if he is to make the 1 o'clock announcement

[Hibee87]

Not read the article but seen the back page of the Evening news and the headline was butcher appointment immenent

[Spike Mandela]

Sky sports news still saying that ICT denying contact. Butcher taking training as normal. My son works next to Paul Hanlons mum and she rcvd a txt from him yesterday saying he (TB) had agreed terms.

He's obviously just texting what was widely reported.

[Gustavo Fring]

butcher himself says he's not spoken to hibs so i find it hard to believe he's agreed terms without speaking to them about it 1st

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

butcher himself says he's not spoken to hibs so i find it hard to believe he's agreed terms without speaking to them about it 1st

common courtesy?

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Breaking news !

Yup....I also heard that he might or might no take the job

[Thecat23]

Butcher has spoke to Hibs, and he will be Hibs manager. Players know it as well.

[hibees 7062]

Butcher has spoke to Hibs, and he will be Hibs manager. Players know it as well.

Thatll do for me , the poster ive been waiting for :thumbsup:

[Phil D. Rolls]

Sky sports news still saying that ICT denying contact. Butcher taking training as normal. My son works next to Paul Hanlons mum and she rcvd a txt from him yesterday saying he (TB) had agreed terms.

What was she making for his tea?



Butcher has spoke to Hibs, and he will be Hibs manager. Players know it as well.

You've already done this, Chic.

[CB_NO3]

butcher himself says he's not spoken to hibs so i find it hard to believe he's agreed terms without speaking to them about it 1st
He has to say that to the media or it will be a case of Hibs have tapped him up illegally. In saying that, players are free to talk to other teams with 6 months to go on their contracts. Are managers any different? Or do you still have to contact the club first till the last day of their contract?

[SteveHFC]

Chic you tried this one yesterday.

:rotflmao::greengrin

[Spike Mandela]

butcher himself says he's not spoken to hibs so i find it hard to believe he's agreed terms without speaking to them about it 1st

There are ways of doing this without 'speaking to Hibs'. It's political speak for agents, intermediataries and third party contacts.

[Phil D. Rolls]

He has to say that to the media or it will be a case of Hibs have tapped him up illegally. In saying that, players are free to talk to other teams with 6 months to go on their contracts. Are managers any different? Or do you still have to contact the club first till the last day of their contract?

So many ways to look at it:

HE hasn't spoken to Hibs but his pals have.
HE hasn't spoken to HIBS, but his pals have spoken to Rod in an informal capacity.

Etc etc etc

You can play with the English language so many ways.

Of course, maybe there has been no contact in any form.

[GloryGlory]

Yup....I also heard that he might or might no take the job

I heard that, too. :greengrin

And I also heard someone else could get it, if he didn't take it.

[Niffy]

butcher himself says he's not spoken to hibs so i find it hard to believe he's agreed terms without speaking to them about it 1st

Hibs talk to Terry's agent (in between man) , he tells Hibs - he want £xxxxxx and Maurice wants a new suit... Hibs say... we'll offer £xxxx and just a pair of jeans... Agent talks to Terry , Terry says "Yeah sounds good".

Terry honestly says to everyone "I've not spoken to Hibs."