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Hibbyradge
11-11-2013, 11:00 PM
could've spent it on Griffiths though :rolleyes:. Bloody Typical. Always too late.

This. :agree:

And if we hadn't built the training facility or the main stand, we could have no debt at all.

Petrie :grr:

TheFamous1875
11-11-2013, 11:14 PM
:fishin:

I'm really sorry mate. I've had a boring day, I needed a catch.

I guess my catches are maybe more oblique than yours, and for that I apologise.


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spike220
11-11-2013, 11:40 PM
i dont think terry butcher is coming to hibs purely for the challenge...i think its more about being appreciated and at hibs he will be appreciated if he brings success...at inverness he had brought unprecedented success, second in the league, cup semi finals, arguably taking the club onto a level beyond their wildest expectations...and how did the inverness public reward him?...crowds of 2000 from a population of around 75,000...if he was to win the league at inverness they'd still struggle to get 5000 through the gates and i think this must have been a deciding factor in terry leaving the highlands...he took inverness to unchartered heights and was rewarded with apathy...if he takes hibs to 2nd in the league he will know the hibs support will respond in huge numbers and he will be shown appreciation for his work in a more appropriate manner...inverness c.t. have lost their manager because they took him for granted and failed to give him the support his efforts deserved.:agree:

Greencore
12-11-2013, 12:29 AM
I know, we haven't had one since Williamson.
Yogi..

Pete
12-11-2013, 01:03 AM
I'm not sure this is a difficult a job as people are making out. The formula for success isn't difficult and we certainly aren't "rotten" in any sense.

Once Butcher is appointed it is time to stop all these witch hunts and agendas regarding players and the board and start from the year zero. Forget Petrie and judge him on the success of the new regime. For once, Petrie has appointed a proven manager that can turn water into wine and this certainly isn't a gamble or a cheap option. This is the real deal.

The fans are there and are fantastic (Butcher wouldn't take a drink from a poisoned chalice). The regime is now in place that have proved to the country that they can, given time and patience, build a successful team. The players are the final piece. They aren't bad and the majority have proved themselves elsewhere and they will improve with new boundaries and targets. Coming to hibs doesn't make them bad players, it's working under the wrong conditions that does that. Vine, Collins, Craig and OTJ etc...need something more than what they were getting before to enable them to perform and therefore get the crowd believing that there is something happening.

It might take a bit of time but if the sins of the past are forgiven as far as the players are concerned then we might have a few "new" players on our books already. Starting from next week, we should give everyone the benefit of the doubt as they will be undergoing big changes. They will then know that we are fully on board and gain the confidence to not only do what Terry says but to express themselves fully knowing that we will forgive mistakes. It's a cycle as far as I'm concerned and we all feed off each other and if one party doesn't truly believe then it all falls apart.

Petrie has put everything in place this time and surely cant be faulted for this appointment. All the ingredients are there and the whole project will be funded. We're not as impatient as people make out and certainly aren't mugs who don't appreciate positive changes like taking one step back to take two forward.

I have a really good feeling about this.

cabbageandribs1875
12-11-2013, 01:32 AM
TB will know full well the weak points in this hibs team, just like most of the other managers know as well, can't wait to see his first team sheet/tactics v st.mirren

neilmartinrocks
12-11-2013, 01:52 AM
i dont think terry butcher is coming to hibs purely for the challenge...i think its more about being appreciated and at hibs he will be appreciated if he brings success...at inverness he had brought unprecedented success, second in the league, cup semi finals, arguably taking the club onto a level beyond their wildest expectations...and how did the inverness public reward him?...crowds of 2000 from a population of around 75,000...if he was to win the league at inverness they'd still struggle to get 5000 through the gates and i think this must have been a deciding factor in terry leaving the highlands...he took inverness to unchartered heights and was rewarded with apathy...if he takes hibs to 2nd in the league he will know the hibs support will respond in huge numbers and he will be shown appreciation for his work in a more appropriate manner...inverness c.t. have lost their manager because they took him for granted and failed to give him the support his efforts deserved.

My nephew done a project at school last month about football crowds and ICT and ST Johnstone all average over (just) 5% of the population this season. Hibernian if you split the population of Edinburgh down the middle averages just under 4% of population so Mr Butcher will have to raise the crowds by 3/4000 to overtake them.

KiddA
12-11-2013, 02:43 AM
Is TB trying to get a part in Still Game? with his clothes attire :wink:

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/hibernian/248122-hibernian-expect-to-appoint-terry-butcher-as-boss-on-tuesday-as-fee-agreed/

Glad the big man is on board great appointment :agree:

:thumbsup:

Greencore
12-11-2013, 04:37 AM
I'm not sure this is a difficult a job as people are making out. The formula for success isn't difficult and we certainly aren't "rotten" in any sense.

Once Butcher is appointed it is time to stop all these witch hunts and agendas regarding players and the board and start from the year zero. Forget Petrie and judge him on the success of the new regime. For once, Petrie has appointed a proven manager that can turn water into wine and this certainly isn't a gamble or a cheap option. This is the real deal.

The fans are there and are fantastic (Butcher wouldn't take a drink from a poisoned chalice). The regime is now in place that have proved to the country that they can, given time and patience, build a successful team. The players are the final piece. They aren't bad and the majority have proved themselves elsewhere and they will improve with new boundaries and targets. Coming to hibs doesn't make them bad players, it's working under the wrong conditions that does that. Vine, Collins, Craig and OTJ etc...need something more than what they were getting before to enable them to perform and therefore get the crowd believing that there is something happening.

It might take a bit of time but if the sins of the past are forgiven as far as the players are concerned then we might have a few "new" players on our books already. Starting from next week, we should give everyone the benefit of the doubt as they will be undergoing big changes. They will then know that we are fully on board and gain the confidence to not only do what Terry says but to express themselves fully knowing that we will forgive mistakes. It's a cycle as far as I'm concerned and we all feed off each other and if one party doesn't truly believe then it all falls apart.

Petrie has put everything in place this time and surely cant be faulted for this appointment. All the ingredients are there and the whole project will be funded. We're not as impatient as people make out and certainly aren't mugs who don't appreciate positive changes like taking one step back to take two forward.

I have a really good feeling about this.
fantastic post. Agree with everything you wrote. I have said on this thread before that when the new management come in it is like a new season for me everyone gets a new start!

JOD
12-11-2013, 04:53 AM
i dont think terry butcher is coming to hibs purely for the challenge...i think its more about being appreciated and at hibs he will be appreciated if he brings success...at inverness he had brought unprecedented success, second in the league, cup semi finals, arguably taking the club onto a level beyond their wildest expectations...and how did the inverness public reward him?...crowds of 2000 from a population of around 75,000...if he was to win the league at inverness they'd still struggle to get 5000 through the gates and i think this must have been a deciding factor in terry leaving the highlands...he took inverness to unchartered heights and was rewarded with apathy...if he takes hibs to 2nd in the league he will know the hibs support will respond in huge numbers and he will be shown appreciation for his work in a more appropriate manner...inverness c.t. have lost their manager because they took him for granted and failed to give him the support his efforts deserved.

Totally agree with this post :agree::agree::agree:

Greencore
12-11-2013, 05:49 AM
Saw this posted on the caly forum and he gave a great presentation on how he motviates his players. I think if he can put in what he said in the video and give the players confidence and belief we are in for a treat. Enjoy http://youtu.be/aJYOKhluskI

Wull
12-11-2013, 06:51 AM
I'm not sure this is a difficult a job as people are making out. The formula for success isn't difficult and we certainly aren't "rotten" in any sense.

Once Butcher is appointed it is time to stop all these witch hunts and agendas regarding players and the board and start from the year zero. Forget Petrie and judge him on the success of the new regime. For once, Petrie has appointed a proven manager that can turn water into wine and this certainly isn't a gamble or a cheap option. This is the real deal.

The fans are there and are fantastic (Butcher wouldn't take a drink from a poisoned chalice). The regime is now in place that have proved to the country that they can, given time and patience, build a successful team. The players are the final piece. They aren't bad and the majority have proved themselves elsewhere and they will improve with new boundaries and targets. Coming to hibs doesn't make them bad players, it's working under the wrong conditions that does that. Vine, Collins, Craig and OTJ etc...need something more than what they were getting before to enable them to perform and therefore get the crowd believing that there is something happening.

It might take a bit of time but if the sins of the past are forgiven as far as the players are concerned then we might have a few "new" players on our books already. Starting from next week, we should give everyone the benefit of the doubt as they will be undergoing big changes. They will then know that we are fully on board and gain the confidence to not only do what Terry says but to express themselves fully knowing that we will forgive mistakes. It's a cycle as far as I'm concerned and we all feed off each other and if one party doesn't truly believe then it all falls apart.

Petrie has put everything in place this time and surely cant be faulted for this appointment. All the ingredients are there and the whole project will be funded. We're not as impatient as people make out and certainly aren't mugs who don't appreciate positive changes like taking one step back to take two forward.

I have a really good feeling about this.

Ah will second that :top marks:flag:

GordonHFC
12-11-2013, 06:53 AM
I'm not sure this is a difficult a job as people are making out. The formula for success isn't difficult and we certainly aren't "rotten" in any sense.

Once Butcher is appointed it is time to stop all these witch hunts and agendas regarding players and the board and start from the year zero. Forget Petrie and judge him on the success of the new regime. For once, Petrie has appointed a proven manager that can turn water into wine and this certainly isn't a gamble or a cheap option. This is the real deal.

The fans are there and are fantastic (Butcher wouldn't take a drink from a poisoned chalice). The regime is now in place that have proved to the country that they can, given time and patience, build a successful team. The players are the final piece. They aren't bad and the majority have proved themselves elsewhere and they will improve with new boundaries and targets. Coming to hibs doesn't make them bad players, it's working under the wrong conditions that does that. Vine, Collins, Craig and OTJ etc...need something more than what they were getting before to enable them to perform and therefore get the crowd believing that there is something happening.

It might take a bit of time but if the sins of the past are forgiven as far as the players are concerned then we might have a few "new" players on our books already. Starting from next week, we should give everyone the benefit of the doubt as they will be undergoing big changes. They will then know that we are fully on board and gain the confidence to not only do what Terry says but to express themselves fully knowing that we will forgive mistakes. It's a cycle as far as I'm concerned and we all feed off each other and if one party doesn't truly believe then it all falls apart.

Petrie has put everything in place this time and surely cant be faulted for this appointment. All the ingredients are there and the whole project will be funded. We're not as impatient as people make out and certainly aren't mugs who don't appreciate positive changes like taking one step back to take two forward.

I have a really good feeling about this.

Time will Tel

rcarter1
12-11-2013, 06:56 AM
i dont think terry butcher is coming to hibs purely for the challenge...i think its more about being appreciated and at hibs he will be appreciated if he brings success...at inverness he had brought unprecedented success, second in the league, cup semi finals, arguably taking the club onto a level beyond their wildest expectations...and how did the inverness public reward him?...crowds of 2000 from a population of around 75,000...if he was to win the league at inverness they'd still struggle to get 5000 through the gates and i think this must have been a deciding factor in terry leaving the highlands...he took inverness to unchartered heights and was rewarded with apathy...if he takes hibs to 2nd in the league he will know the hibs support will respond in huge numbers and he will be shown appreciation for his work in a more appropriate manner...inverness c.t. have lost their manager because they took him for granted and failed to give him the support his efforts deserved.

Totally agree! :agree: Its the positive flip side to a support that shows its frustration at failure. If he gets things right Hibs fans will respond in a big way. I think it will take at least two seasons to get to a really good place, but hope they can make a positive difference in the short time. Really looking forward to this, but dont expect miracles from the team this season.

Moon unit
12-11-2013, 07:03 AM
Terry,Terry...wear the Hat
Terry, wear the Hat!. ..

zlatan
12-11-2013, 07:08 AM
Is there anything in the rags about that Marsella chap coming as well?

Heisenberg
12-11-2013, 07:10 AM
Is there anything in the rags about that Marsella chap coming as well?

@OHenleyAlex: I understand @ICTFC won't stand in the way of chief scout Steve Marsella if he wants to join Terry Butcher and Maurice Malpas at #Hibs.

That's the only journo I've seen mention him so far today.

Thecat23
12-11-2013, 07:22 AM
@OHenleyAlex: I understand @ICTFC won't stand in the way of chief scout Steve Marsella if he wants to join Terry Butcher and Maurice Malpas at #Hibs.

That's the only journo I've seen mention him so far today.

He's coming as well 100%.

Hibbyradge
12-11-2013, 07:25 AM
There is of course no guarantee of success in football, but I am pleased that the club has at last shown some ambition in their appointment of Terry Butcher. He has plenty of experience, especially in our league, did a great job at ICT, has a strong forceful personality that will demand standards be raised and comes with stature and respect within the game. What's there not to like?


I think we will hear references to the "challenge of the job" a lot in the next few days. Lets face it, it is a huge challenge to turn this club round from its current malaise. Will he be able to do so? Time will tell, however, I am sure of one thing; he will give it his best shot and we should all give him as much support as we can.

Strong forceful personalities are 10 a penny and every manager "demands" that standards are raised.

Successfully motivating people takes a lot more than those crude skills.

Fortunately, Terry Butcher is a lot more sophisticated. He has studied people management and the psychology of motivation and he knows how to apply the appropriate techniques.

This gives an insight into what he does and how he does it. He's not the smoothest public speaker, but the message is clear and it's worth watching in full.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJYOKhluskI

Heisenberg
12-11-2013, 07:26 AM
He's coming as well 100%.

Fantastic.

Hibbyradge
12-11-2013, 07:36 AM
i dont think terry butcher is coming to hibs purely for the challenge...i think its more about being appreciated and at hibs he will be appreciated if he brings success...at inverness he had brought unprecedented success, second in the league, cup semi finals, arguably taking the club onto a level beyond their wildest expectations...and how did the inverness public reward him?...crowds of 2000 from a population of around 75,000...if he was to win the league at inverness they'd still struggle to get 5000 through the gates and i think this must have been a deciding factor in terry leaving the highlands...he took inverness to unchartered heights and was rewarded with apathy...if he takes hibs to 2nd in the league he will know the hibs support will respond in huge numbers and he will be shown appreciation for his work in a more appropriate manner...inverness c.t. have lost their manager because they took him for granted and failed to give him the support his efforts deserved.

Much of your post makes good sense to me, but I disagree with the first sentence.

Terry Butcher isn't coming to Hibs to be "appreciated". He's not taking a job to assuage his ego's deepest cravings.

He's coming because he can see the potential He because he believes in himself and feels that he can be successful and achieve more with Hibs than he can at ICT.

I fully expect he will say something about having taken ICT as far as he could, but that a club of Hibs size offers a chance to go even further.

spike220
12-11-2013, 07:39 AM
Saw this posted on the caly forum and he gave a great presentation on how he motviates his players. I think if he can put in what he said in the video and give the players confidence and belief we are in for a treat. Enjoy http://youtu.be/aJYOKhluskI Good video - watched the whole thing!

steakbake
12-11-2013, 07:41 AM
I've got a good feeling about this. I don't expect miracles overnight but I think at least in the short term, we'll see a lift and given time and support, we shall see what he does between now and 2016 to bring ER back to life.

I hope as a group of fans we can put the negativity to one side and back the players we've got to do greater things. To a man, they are capable so let's get behind them.

To be fair to Petrie et al, perhaps this is finally a sign they get it...?

Craig_in_Prague
12-11-2013, 07:45 AM
Much of your post makes good sense to me, but I disagree with the first sentence.

Terry Butcher isn't coming to Hibs to be "appreciated". He's not taking a job to assuage his ego's deepest cravings.

He's coming because he can see the potential He because he believes in himself and feels that he can be successful and achieve more with Hibs than he can at ICT.

I fully expect he will say something about having taken ICT as far as he could, but that a club of Hibs size offers a chance to go even further.

yup, and just heard Craig Brewster on BBC Radio Scotland; Said the same, that Terry will see Hibs as a big club and as a manager, looking at the infrastructure (training ground, stadium, fan base), it IS an attractive prospect managing Hibs.
We shouldn't walk about Yam like saying we're a big club, but to some extent we should not put our club down and reliaze we are a pretty big club in Scottish terms and we should NOT be surprised a manager from another SPFL team wants to join us, despite his side being vastly superior to the current Hibs team.

Butcher probably see's what the rest of us can, a club that is a bit of a sleeping giant & all the 'tools' are in place for him to get things working.
Least we forget, Edinburgh is a beautiful city and personally it might be a nice change for his family/wife.

All in all, there is a LOT of good things at Hibs - It's not a poisoned chalice, it's a fantastic opportunity.

Saorsa
12-11-2013, 07:47 AM
11303A six figure sum,eh! I hope this one works out better than his last six figure spend, the one that was a 'coup'.

Mikey
12-11-2013, 07:49 AM
If Butcher takes Hibs as far as he can then we won't have too many complaining.

stokesmessiah
12-11-2013, 07:52 AM
Much of your post makes good sense to me, but I disagree with the first sentence.

Terry Butcher isn't coming to Hibs to be "appreciated". He's not taking a job to assuage his ego's deepest cravings.

He's coming because he can see the potential He because he believes in himself and feels that he can be successful and achieve more with Hibs than he can at ICT.

I fully expect he will say something about having taken ICT as far as he could, but that a club of Hibs size offers a chance to go even further.

Read some of the Caley fans saying something similar yesterday on their forum and the counter argument was - just how much more can he possibly expect at Hibs? Caley are in contention for European football and have 2 cup semi's to look forward to, they have what is recognised by Hibs fan a strong team with players we would love at Easter Rd but most are prob out of reach as tied up for the foreseeable future. So what is it that we as Hibs fans expect him to deliver, European football and latter stages of the cups is the norm when it's debated on here - something he already prob had!

smurf
12-11-2013, 07:53 AM
Fantastic appointments. Well done to the board. A lot of hardwork required by everyone at ER starting at the top. We really do need to start performing.

southsider
12-11-2013, 07:55 AM
Ach, you never fell out of love. It was just a rocky patch. You felt yourselves growing apart after so long, and started to question whether you wanted different things out of life. But of course you can't live without each other. You just wouldn't be you any longer. Til death you do part :devil:

7 year itch ?

TornadoHibby
12-11-2013, 07:56 AM
Strong forceful personalities are 10 a penny and every manager "demands" that standards are raised.

Successfully motivating people takes a lot more than those crude skills.

Fortunately, Terry Butcher is a lot more sophisticated. He has studied people management and the psychology of motivation and he knows how to apply the appropriate techniques.

This gives an insight into what he does and how he does it. He's not the smoothest public speaker, but the message is clear and it's worth watching in full.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJYOKhluskI

Bodes well for a better performance and results future at Hibs I suspect! :top marks :agree:

Craig_in_Prague
12-11-2013, 08:00 AM
Read some of the Caley fans saying something similar yesterday on their forum and the counter argument was - just how much more can he possibly expect at Hibs? Caley are in contention for European football and have 2 cup semi's to look forward to, they have what is recognised by Hibs fan a strong team with players we would love at Easter Rd but most are prob out of reach as tied up for the foreseeable future. So what is it that we as Hibs fans expect him to deliver, European football and latter stages of the cups is the norm when it's debated on here - something he already prob had!

Bigger crowds at a bigger stadium ?
a better budget ?

As for cup semi-finals and finals, look at the suppport Hibs get. ....and if we ever win a cup, look at Edinburgh and the celebrations.

He might fancy a taste of that.

Peevemor
12-11-2013, 08:07 AM
Bigger crowds at a bigger stadium ?
a better budget ?

As for cup semi-finals and finals, look at the suppport Hibs get. ....and if we ever win a cup, look at Edinburgh and the celebrations.

He might fancy a taste of that.

Also, to achieve what he has at Caley they are constantly punching above their weight whereas it could be argued that, given the size of the club, these shouldbe the minimum achievements for Hibs.

Now if he got us to punch above our weight .... :pray:

Weststandwanab
12-11-2013, 08:15 AM
Strong forceful personalities are 10 a penny and every manager "demands" that standards are raised.

Successfully motivating people takes a lot more than those crude skills.

Fortunately, Terry Butcher is a lot more sophisticated. He has studied people management and the psychology of motivation and he knows how to apply the appropriate techniques.

This gives an insight into what he does and how he does it. He's not the smoothest public speaker, but the message is clear and it's worth watching in full.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJYOKhluskI Thanks for posting that. For those of us who do not have th3e time to watch the 45 minute video, would you know of the time of a section where we can get a small flavour of what you mean.

MB62
12-11-2013, 08:24 AM
Terry Butcher isn't coming to Hibs to be "appreciated". He's not taking a job to assuage his ego's deepest cravings.

He's coming because he can see the potential He because he believes in himself and feels that he can be successful and achieve more with Hibs than he can at ICT.

I fully expect he will say something about having taken ICT as far as he could, but that a club of Hibs size offers a chance to go even further.

And whether we like it or not, IF he can be as successful with us as he has been with his previous club, he will again be in the market for a new job from bigger fish than we are in the future.
I don't see the cheeky chappy over at derhun2 being there in 3 or 4 years time so if T.B. can produce the goods with us, he will have put himself in the shop window for possibly that job.

However, let him get his feet under the desk with us before we look to see how much compo we can screw out of derhun2 or anybody else who will hopefully come sniffing a few years down the line.

scuttle
12-11-2013, 08:34 AM
Thanks for posting that. For those of us who do not have th3e time to watch the 45 minute video, would you know of the time of a section where we can get a small flavour of what you mean.

Did i really hear Terry call Celtic " soap dodgers" towards the end of that

GreenLake
12-11-2013, 08:57 AM
Did i really hear Terry call Celtic " soap dodgers" towards the end of that

Yeah, I heard that. There was also a slide which depicted categories of players - "team terrorists" and "corpses" were two of the four.

Dan Sarf
12-11-2013, 09:00 AM
Butcher cuts a managerial dash

Good managers move people. Terry Butcher certainly did in New York in 2005. Butcher was covering England’s US tour for the Beeb and, facing a rare Sunday afternoon off, gathered some friends for a kickabout in Central Park.
All the grass was taken. Butcher had somehow to commandeer some space from the soft-ball, dodge-ball and Frisbee fraternities. So he went from game to pick-up game to convince the locals to surrender some of their precious sporting real estate, using charm and, more accurately, a land-grab approach not seen from the English in America since the 17th century. Smiling at his nerve, they budged up for the “limey soccer guys”.
Butcher has a warmth, humour, intelligence, experience and strength of personality which was not always present in his faltering early managerial days that indicate he could do well at Hibs.

Phil MaGlass
12-11-2013, 09:15 AM
Its been a while since I was this pleased about a manager coming to Hibs. I really think he has what it takes to kick us on, we have all been saying we have the stadium, training ground, most of the players, the support and a weee bit of cash behind us, by xmas we should be seeing the results. If we can get the fans back through the gates and the crowd behind the management team (which I think will happen) it´s onwards and upwards.
C,mon Hibs, GERINTAETHUM.

Mikey
12-11-2013, 09:21 AM
Surprised we haven't had an announcement yet.......

God Petrie
12-11-2013, 09:22 AM
A six figure sum,eh! I hope this one works out better than his last six figure spend, the one that was a 'coup'.

Imagine if TB does well. You won't be able to have digs at RP every 5 minutes what a disaster this could turn out to be!!!

SlickShoes
12-11-2013, 09:22 AM
Surprised we haven't had an announcement yet.......

Sources say it has all fallen through and Malpas and Butcher at Ibrox right now hammering out a contract, McCoist heading along the M8 to Easter Road.

JimBHibees
12-11-2013, 09:23 AM
Strong forceful personalities are 10 a penny and every manager "demands" that standards are raised.

Successfully motivating people takes a lot more than those crude skills.

Fortunately, Terry Butcher is a lot more sophisticated. He has studied people management and the psychology of motivation and he knows how to apply the appropriate techniques.

This gives an insight into what he does and how he does it. He's not the smoothest public speaker, but the message is clear and it's worth watching in full.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJYOKhluskI

Cheers for that really interesting stuff. Comes across very well.

Just_Jimmy
12-11-2013, 09:26 AM
Yeah, I heard that. There was also a slide which depicted categories of players - "team terrorists" and "corpses" were two of the four.


did you listen to his explanation behind the terms?

the first was a description of the type of people who destroy moral and snipe behind each others backs from within - team terrorists
the second was people who add very little, are static and lifeless in their approach - corpses.

absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Hibby Gav
12-11-2013, 09:28 AM
Sources say it has all fallen through and Malpas and Butcher at Ibrox right now hammering out a contract, McCoist heading along the M8 to Easter Road.

Wearing shoes with extra thick soles as he had been told the M8 is awash with glass... :wink:

JOKE !

Weststandwanab
12-11-2013, 09:29 AM
Did i really hear Terry call Celtic " soap dodgers" towards the end of that No idea I have not listened to it !

Hibby86
12-11-2013, 09:50 AM
2pm news conference this afternoon

CallumLaidlaw
12-11-2013, 09:56 AM
2pm news conference this afternoon

:agree: currently on yellow headline bar on SSN

brog
12-11-2013, 10:08 AM
My nephew done a project at school last month about football crowds and ICT and ST Johnstone all average over (just) 5% of the population this season. Hibernian if you split the population of Edinburgh down the middle averages just under 4% of population so Mr Butcher will have to raise the crowds by 3/4000 to overtake them.

Not true I'm afraid, Edinburgh's population is 482,000. If you take away the 400,000 Yams that means our average of about 12k is actually about 15%!! :wink:
Seriously though 50% of 5% of 482,000 is 12k so we're spot on. A successful Hibs will however boost that average considerably whereas ICT have peaked. Regardless of percentages it must be soul destroying to be 2nd in the league & attract about 3k fans.

HIBERNIAN-0762
12-11-2013, 10:10 AM
Fantastic news!

Welcome Terry!

GreenCastle
12-11-2013, 10:19 AM
Sky Sports News just been live from East Mains.

He was at East Mains from before 8am - met the players at 10am.

Will be going to the game at Firhill tonight to see the Hibs younger players play.

Press Conference 2pm.

No doubt people in England will be taking notice as obviously Butcher is a name everyone knows - may help raise our profile a bit.

HibsNibs
12-11-2013, 10:19 AM
population of Inverness is 58,000 though, and 90% of them seem to support Sevco or the plastic Pads

Saorsa
12-11-2013, 10:20 AM
Imagine if TB does well. You won't be able to have digs at RP every 5 minutes what a disaster this could turn out to be!!!Changes nothing about the last 6 years. I'll continue tae post my opinions as I see fit and if you dinnae like it you can ****in' lump it.

Mikeystewart
12-11-2013, 10:29 AM
Fantastic news!

Welcome Terry!

Where can i get a bigger version of your avatar? :wink:

neilmartinrocks
12-11-2013, 10:48 AM
Not true I'm afraid, Edinburgh's population is 482,000. If you take away the 400,000 Yams that means our average of about 12k is actually about 15%!! :wink:
Seriously though 50% of 5% of 482,000 is 12k so we're spot on. A successful Hibs will however boost that average considerably whereas ICT have peaked. Regardless of percentages it must be soul destroying to be 2nd in the league & attract about 3k fans.

495.000 in 2011 edinburgh.
56.000 in 2011 inverness.
50.000 in 2011 perth.
were the figures supplied by teacher for this. although i just noticed this is average overall attendance and not just home supporters.

Green&White
12-11-2013, 10:50 AM
Sky Sports News just been live from East Mains.

He was at East Mains from before 8am - met the players at 10am.

Will be going to the game at Firhill tonight to see the Hibs younger players play.

Press Conference 2pm.

No doubt people in England will be taking notice as obviously Butcher is a name everyone knows - may help raise our profile a bit.


Is the press conference live on sky sports news to watch?

jacomo
12-11-2013, 10:52 AM
Sky Sports News just been live from East Mains.

He was at East Mains from before 8am - met the players at 10am.

Will be going to the game at Firhill tonight to see the Hibs younger players play.

Press Conference 2pm.

No doubt people in England will be taking notice as obviously Butcher is a name everyone knows - may help raise our profile a bit.

Brief discussion about TB on the 5 live Monday Night Club last night - mostly surprised he hasn't landed a 'bigger' club down South. But definitely a higher profile manager for us.

Craig_in_Prague
12-11-2013, 10:57 AM
hoping Hibs TV capture the full conference and post onto their you-tube viewings?

not everyone can watch SSN during the day!

Geo_1875
12-11-2013, 10:58 AM
Read some of the Caley fans saying something similar yesterday on their forum and the counter argument was - just how much more can he possibly expect at Hibs? Caley are in contention for European football and have 2 cup semi's to look forward to, they have what is recognised by Hibs fan a strong team with players we would love at Easter Rd but most are prob out of reach as tied up for the foreseeable future. So what is it that we as Hibs fans expect him to deliver, European football and latter stages of the cups is the norm when it's debated on here - something he already prob had!

Consecutive cup finals (with a poor team) is beyond the wildest dreams of an ICT fan.

zlatan
12-11-2013, 11:05 AM
Is the press conference live on sky sports news to watch?

We've scheduled it at the same time as Martin O'Neils first press conference as Ireland boss so I highly doubt it.

GreenCastle
12-11-2013, 11:08 AM
Is the press conference live on sky sports news to watch?

It didn't say - probably not. But I am sure there will be some sort of coverage after it.

Just been back to East Mains and nothing extra to add but Luke Shanley (I think that's who it is) is wearing a green tie.

Alex Trager
12-11-2013, 11:11 AM
Watched that video earlier and I have a feeling butcher will take us places we've not been for a long long time. Ridiculous at this stage but maybe things like what SAF done at Aberdeen. But seriously that is the feeling I'm getting.

Bobby's Cinema
12-11-2013, 11:15 AM
Changes nothing about the last 6 years. I'll continue tae post my opinions as I see fit and if you dinnae like it you can ****in' lump it.
:agree: Those feelings don't just disappear overnight.

Still, right behind Terry to sort what is seemingly still a mess on the playing side around

Killiehibbie
12-11-2013, 11:18 AM
Watched that video earlier and I have a feeling butcher will take us places we've not been for a long long time. Ridiculous at this stage but maybe things like what SAF done at Aberdeen. But seriously that is the feeling I'm getting.I hope you're right but i'll be happy with a couple of domestic cups.

Peevemor
12-11-2013, 11:19 AM
Watched that video earlier and I have a feeling butcher will take us places we've not been for a long long time. Ridiculous at this stage but maybe things like what SAF done at Aberdeen. But seriously that is the feeling I'm getting.

Methil? Stenhousemuir? :greengrin

Billychaotic182
12-11-2013, 11:23 AM
Methil? Stenhousemuir? :greengrin

Fenlon and calderwood took us to methil.....

GloryGlory
12-11-2013, 11:30 AM
Watched that video earlier and I have a feeling butcher will take us places we've not been for a long long time. Ridiculous at this stage but maybe things like what SAF done at Aberdeen. [B]But seriously that is the feeling I'm getting].

Away and have a wee lie doon. :greengrin :wink:

Alex Trager
12-11-2013, 11:35 AM
Good to see I'm getting a few replies. In terms of SAF I mean domestically. Cup wise definitely. League wise would be a dream.
I hope he can bring the fans back and exploit the clubs true potential.

European wise I'm not being blind I realise it'll take a serious amount of, well everything, to ever reach success in Europe but I think he has the ability to make sure we give a decent account of ourselves.


But I do have good feelings about this. Never seen anything like that video before, especially not from any our previous managers. It's good to see he is after instilling a winning mentality.

I hope he stays for a decent amount of time and really hope if he uses us as a springboard he goes down south. And not the Huns

--------
12-11-2013, 11:45 AM
A six figure sum,eh! I hope this one works out better than his last six figure spend, the one that was a 'coup'.

:agree:

Me too, Dan. I think Butcher's a decent manager and he brings another good man in Malpas, but the basic situation at the club hasn't changed. They'll have to work within the same context (and constraints) as the last 5 or 6 (or 8 or 9) appointed by the guy who appointed them. I really hope they succeed, but ....

.... I don't believe anything will really change for the better until the present chairman/CEO removes himself from the club.

SMAXXA
12-11-2013, 12:12 PM
:agree:

Me too, Dan. I think Butcher's a decent manager and he brings another good man in Malpas, but the basic situation at the club hasn't changed. They'll have to work within the same context (and constraints) as the last 5 or 6 (or 8 or 9) appointed by the guy who appointed them. I really hope they succeed, but ....

.... I don't believe anything will really change for the better until the present chairman/CEO removes himself from the club.

So you don't think he will make that much of a difference? Why didn't we just keep PF then if that's the case?

i am full of hope that he will make a huge difference and our club will again go in the right direction but time ill tell I guess Doddie.

K-Zazu
12-11-2013, 12:14 PM
Welcome to the club big man

jacomo
12-11-2013, 12:21 PM
The Scotsman/EEN are promoting their pal Levein for the ICT job.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl/levein-in-frame-to-replace-butcher-at-inverness-1-3184700

If so, that would be a club that don't like us very much right now, managed by someone who hates us - a club that has a good overall record against us which we need to address.

This really could have the makings of a spicy new rivalry - if the Yams go down, we will want another fixture with a bit of spice to it.

Hibernia&Alba
12-11-2013, 12:24 PM
I've had a brief look at fan forums of other SPL clubs, and the consensus seems to be that Butcher is making a big mistake, for although he's moving to a bigger club, Hibs are a basket case and a managerial graveyard. So the view from outside matches that from within in relation to Hibs' underachievement over a long period. I really hope he's the man who can finally rid the club of this malaise. First task is to instill some belief!

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12-11-2013, 12:25 PM
So you don't think he will make that much of a difference? Why didn't we just keep PF then if that's the case?

i am full of hope that he will make a huge difference and our club will again go in the right direction but time ill tell I guess Doddie.


I think PF had to go for the club's sake and his own, but I don't think the real problems at ER are confined to the manager's office, the training ground, and the pitch.

The real problem is that the owner is invisible and apparently couldn't care less what the team does on the field, and that the chairman's main (indeed only) priority seems to be the balancing of the accounts at the end of the financial year regardless of the quality of the football team or the results that team achieves - or rather, fails to achieve.

Other chairmen manage to balance the books without reducing the team and club to the status of laughing-stock, which is what Hibs are right now. If the "God Petrie" can't do that, then he needs to go, NOW.

So while I earnestly desire for Butcher and Malpas to make a difference, I'm not by any means convinced that the influence of the "God Petrie" won't kipper their efforts. I hope I'm wrong, but I really wish he'd had the grace and honesty to tender his resignation when PF did.

And my understanding is that Hibs didn't punt Pat - Pat punted Hibs.

HIBERNIAN-0762
12-11-2013, 12:25 PM
Where can i get a bigger version of your avatar? :wink:

Right click

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:wink:

Eternal Hibbie
12-11-2013, 12:32 PM
:agree:

Me too, Dan. I think Butcher's a decent manager and he brings another good man in Malpas, but the basic situation at the club hasn't changed. They'll have to work within the same context (and constraints) as the last 5 or 6 (or 8 or 9) appointed by the guy who appointed them. I really hope they succeed, but ....

.... I don't believe anything will really change for the better until the present chairman/CEO removes himself from the club.

Don't believe for a minute that Butcher has come to Hibs to be a lapdog for Petrie or anyone else, our Rod may have to change his ways !

Breathe of fresh air blowing through our club, at last - onwards and upwards. :)

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12-11-2013, 12:34 PM
Don't believe for a minute that Butcher has come to Hibs to be a lapdog for Petrie or anyone else, our Rod may have to change his ways !

Breathe of fresh air blowing through our club, at last - onwards and upwards. :)


I really hope so, but he has all the hallmarks of a serial recidivist micromanaging Scrooge.

Eternal Hibbie
12-11-2013, 12:37 PM
I really hope so, but he has all the hallmarks of a serial recidivist micromanaging Scrooge.

Wow !!!!!

:)

GreenCastle
12-11-2013, 12:38 PM
Butcher will be live on Sky Sports News just after 3pm

smurf
12-11-2013, 12:38 PM
Media conference now 1500.

Viva_Palmeiras
12-11-2013, 12:42 PM
So you don't think he will make that much of a difference? Why didn't we just keep PF then if that's the case?

i am full of hope that he will make a huge difference and our club will again go in the right direction but time ill tell I guess Doddie.

I can imagine the scene as Rod departs in his SFA/UEFA/FIFA chariot - there'll be a lot of miffed folks if there's not a huge change in fortunes.

God Petrie
12-11-2013, 12:46 PM
I think PF had to go for the club's sake and his own, but I don't think the real problems at ER are confined to the manager's office, the training ground, and the pitch.

The real problem is that the owner is invisible and apparently couldn't care less what the team does on the field, and that the chairman's main (indeed only) priority seems to be the balancing of the accounts at the end of the financial year regardless of the quality of the football team or the results that team achieves - or rather, fails to achieve.

Other chairmen manage to balance the books without reducing the team and club to the status of laughing-stock, which is what Hibs are right now. If the "God Petrie" can't do that, then he needs to go, NOW.

So while I earnestly desire for Butcher and Malpas to make a difference, I'm not by any means convinced that the influence of the "God Petrie" won't kipper their efforts. I hope I'm wrong, but I really wish he'd had the grace and honesty to tender his resignation when PF did.

And my understanding is that Hibs didn't punt Pat - Pat punted Hibs.

Fenlon got paid off for leaving Hibs - he didn't resign. Sorry my username seems to get to you so much - try not to take it so seriously.

Your entire post seems predicated on a false belief that Hibs don't spend money and don't support their managers. The only manager to complain about this was Collins who wanted us to fork out millions for some of the best young Scottish talent therefore investing heavily in a manager who had already managed to lose the dressing room months before.

Petrie has made some poor managerial appointments but outwith CC and Fenlon, they were appointments the majority of fans wanted. Even Fenlon was brought in because we wanted someone to "toughen up" Hibs but now it's Petries fault that Hibs were crap to watch under Fenlon.

There's no evidence that the board will hinder TB if he is good enough but that seems to be the perception. To be honest, I find it bizarre and counterproductive when welcoming a new manager.

With love, God Petrie.

CallumLaidlaw
12-11-2013, 12:48 PM
Media conference now 1500.

Makes sense not to clash with Martin O'Neils press conference and get as much attention as possible.

yerauldda
12-11-2013, 12:49 PM
Makes sense not to clash with Martin O'Neils press conference and get as much attention as possible.

get them to move theirs, ours is more important

inglisavhibs
12-11-2013, 12:52 PM
:agree:

Me too, Dan. I think Butcher's a decent manager and he brings another good man in Malpas, but the basic situation at the club hasn't changed. They'll have to work within the same context (and constraints) as the last 5 or 6 (or 8 or 9) appointed by the guy who appointed them. I really hope they succeed, but ....

.... I don't believe anything will really change for the better until the present chairman/CEO removes himself from the club.

The last 5 or 6 you mentioned failed because they turned out to be terrible managers. What we hope is that Terry Butcher has become a very good manager and we will see a vast improvement in our team over time. Time will tell but it won't be for lack of support from the club if he fails. Fenlon was given great support but wasn't up to the task unfortunately. What exactly is it that you want the board to do?

jodjam
12-11-2013, 12:59 PM
Media conference now 1500.

Jeez. Petrie must be paying him by the hour. Few quid saved already. Typical rod ;)

Crossgates Hibs
12-11-2013, 01:00 PM
I think PF had to go for the club's sake and his own, but I don't think the real problems at ER are confined to the manager's office, the training ground, and the pitch.

The real problem is that the owner is invisible and apparently couldn't care less what the team does on the field, and that the chairman's main (indeed only) priority seems to be the balancing of the accounts at the end of the financial year regardless of the quality of the football team or the results that team achieves - or rather, fails to achieve.

Other chairmen manage to balance the books without reducing the team and club to the status of laughing-stock, which is what Hibs are right now. If the "God Petrie" can't do that, then he needs to go, NOW.

So while I earnestly desire for Butcher and Malpas to make a difference, I'm not by any means convinced that the influence of the "God Petrie" won't kipper their efforts. I hope I'm wrong, but I really wish he'd had the grace and honesty to tender his resignation when PF did.

And my understanding is that Hibs didn't punt Pat - Pat punted Hibs.


Have to disagree with you here. I'm not aware if Terry Butcher has been given targets and not really fussed as I think we now have a manager who will set his own and that will be to make us best of the rest. He left a team in second place where his remit is to keep them in league to come to the shambles that is Hibs. I have no doubt he is here to fulfil his ambitions and whilst Rod and STF may not show huge desire on the football side they want to see it go well to support the money side. This club needs a huge personality like TB who will be able to influence RP and dictate how he wants things to run rather than PF shrugging his shoulders and claiming he has little to do with the academy. If TB is as strong willed as he seems there will be huge change in our club and whilst he won't be given money we don't have he will be able to insert his will on the football side of things. RP knows he can't get this wrong so will back TB as much as possible. Good times ahead I think :flag:

ian cruise
12-11-2013, 01:01 PM
Read some of the Caley fans saying something similar yesterday on their forum and the counter argument was - just how much more can he possibly expect at Hibs? Caley are in contention for European football and have 2 cup semi's to look forward to, they have what is recognised by Hibs fan a strong team with players we would love at Easter Rd but most are prob out of reach as tied up for the foreseeable future. So what is it that we as Hibs fans expect him to deliver, European football and latter stages of the cups is the norm when it's debated on here - something he already prob had!

The question you would have to ask yourself if you were Terry Butcher contemplating the move would be, can u realistically do this, at this club, year after year? I would say for Caley the answer is no and the fact they are doing it at all is a great testimony to all involved with the club. Can you achieve the same year after year with Hibs? With our budget and infrastructure in place then the answer is "Why not?"

Hibby Gav
12-11-2013, 01:04 PM
somebody forgot to tell the web guy the press conference was delayed until 3pm !

http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20131112/hibernian-appoint-butcher_2262950_3534206
:thumbsup:

God Petrie
12-11-2013, 01:05 PM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20131112/hibernian-appoint-butcher_2262950_3534206

I could watch Natalie Sawyer talk about Hibs all day.

southsider
12-11-2013, 01:05 PM
Jeez. Petrie must be paying him by the hour. Few quid saved already. Typical rod ;)

Piece rate !

Craig_in_Prague
12-11-2013, 01:05 PM
Jeez. Petrie must be paying him by the hour. Few quid saved already. Typical rod ;)

Rod needed more time to write a new speach. His standard "XX has been in the dug out for XX games. XX is a winner" has ran its course.
In all seriousness, I heard he needs to spruce up that 'tache further as he prepares to show it off in the media again.

DAVE1875
12-11-2013, 01:06 PM
Mentioned the facilities so Rodders will be happy

Hibby Gav
12-11-2013, 01:06 PM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20131112/hibernian-appoint-butcher_2262950_3534206

Welcome Tel !
:thumbsup:

GreenCastle
12-11-2013, 01:06 PM
#WelcomeTerry :greengrin

HUTCHYHIBBY
12-11-2013, 01:08 PM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20131112/hibernian-appoint-butcher_2262950_3534206

I could watch Natalie Sawyer talk about Hibs all day.

I was struggling to make it to the end of the statement she read out! :-)

RSS Bot
12-11-2013, 01:10 PM
Club's new manager named



More... (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20131112/hibernian-appoint-butcher_2262950_3534206)

GreenCastle
12-11-2013, 01:10 PM
He's already in the West Stand holding up a flag with RP and MM - can't link pic sorry!

Heedersnvolleys
12-11-2013, 01:10 PM
No mention of the Steve boy?

mca
12-11-2013, 01:11 PM
:thumbsup:

TrinityHibs
12-11-2013, 01:13 PM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20131112/hibernian-appoint-butcher_2262950_3534206

I could watch Natalie Sawyer talk about Hibs all day.

I could watch Natalie Sawyer talk about Hibs
I could watch Natalie Sawyer talk
I could watch Natalie Sawyer
I could watch Natalie
I could:agree::agree::agree:

Just Alf
12-11-2013, 01:14 PM
:flag:

Coco Bryce
12-11-2013, 01:17 PM
Could've at least had a photo of them :rolleyes:

Leitherhibs
12-11-2013, 01:17 PM
Press conference at 3 live on ssn.

Gus
12-11-2013, 01:18 PM
The English to the rescue

Welcome Terry

GreenLake
12-11-2013, 01:18 PM
did you listen to his explanation behind the terms?

the first was a description of the type of people who destroy moral and snipe behind each others backs from within - team terrorists
the second was people who add very little, are static and lifeless in their approach - corpses.

absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Yes I heard the whole thing, thought he was spot on with the strategy and I liked his descriptive labels (perhaps he watches "Walking Dead"). I mentioned that slide because it caused me to wonder which of our players might fall under which category. ;)

Killiehibbie
12-11-2013, 01:19 PM
I was struggling to make it to the end of the statement she read out! :-)Compose yourself, freshen up and try again:thumbsup:

Scouse Hibee
12-11-2013, 01:21 PM
The English to the rescue

Welcome Terry

:greengrin Welcome Tel.

Mikey
12-11-2013, 01:22 PM
Hopefully the press conference will be on the Hibs you tube channel. A lot of people will miss it.

Just_Jimmy
12-11-2013, 01:23 PM
Yes I heard the whole thing, thought he was spot on with the strategy and I liked his descriptive labels (perhaps he watches "Walking Dead"). I mentioned that slide because it caused me to wonder which of our players might fall under which category. ;)


My apologies then for thinking you were using it as a stick to beat him already.

I don't watch "walking dead" so I have no idea if they come from that or not? I was impressed with his presentation and his attitude and drive and passion for his job just shine through.

calmacuk
12-11-2013, 01:24 PM
The man himself:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BY4Ia66IQAEAybW.jpg:large

SteveHFC
12-11-2013, 01:26 PM
Daffy Time ;-)

steakbake
12-11-2013, 01:26 PM
I was struggling to make it to the end of the statement she read out! :-)

"We've appointed a first-class management team to deliver continued success here at Hibernian."

Not sure about "continued success" Mr Petrie, but let's see where we go from here - the only way is up.

Vault Boy
12-11-2013, 01:27 PM
Daffy Time ;-)

All is Daffy :agree:

Craig_in_Prague
12-11-2013, 01:27 PM
3 year contract, like till November 2016......or as in till end of season 2015/16 (I'd imagine)?

Anyway, welcome big TB! and of course, MM too!

GGTTH

God Petrie
12-11-2013, 01:29 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BY4JETaCUAADd8P.jpg

Northern Hibby
12-11-2013, 01:31 PM
When asked if he was coming down Maurice Malpas just said "you'll find out soon enough" I said worth a punt then " he just smiled back :-)

Was there every any doubt :-)

Hibernia&Alba
12-11-2013, 01:31 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BY4JETaCUAADd8P.jpg

Good to see :flag:


Let's hope this is the start of something special

Vault Boy
12-11-2013, 01:32 PM
Delighted that it has finally been confirmed, really looking forward to see the changes that Butcher and Malpas can implement! Welcome to them both. :thumbsup:

hibs4life
12-11-2013, 01:33 PM
From the club statement Terry is here to deliver 'continued' success. Have to say watching Hibs over the last few years hasn't felt like I've been observing success. Hopefully Terry has a different notion of success though. Really pleased he's here with MM...

GloryGlory
12-11-2013, 01:34 PM
Mentioned the facilities so Rodders will be happy

I always thought these quotes every time we get a new player or manager are puff pieces drafted by PR. That's why everyone's "over the moon" (to use a football cliche) to be at a "fantastic club", with "great training ground", "excellent stadium", "great potential", "big fan base"....

:greengrin

Purehibee_MYB
12-11-2013, 01:37 PM
I have found a stream to watch sky sports news online. Not sure how legal it is though.. Am I allowed to post it Admins?:cb

IWasThere2016
12-11-2013, 01:38 PM
:flag:

Leighonel
12-11-2013, 01:41 PM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20131112/hibernian-appoint-butcher_2262950_3534206

I could watch Natalie Sawyer talk about Hibs all day.

I just like to rewind it and watch it again....and again.

GreenCastle
12-11-2013, 01:41 PM
Regarding the deal - it said 2.5 years yesterday -so basically till the end of this season - then 2014-15 season then 2015-2016 season.

Anyone heard different? Unless his contract expires Nov 2016 which would be very strange as it's mid-season.

sadtom
12-11-2013, 01:41 PM
Welcome to our new management team.
GGTTH



:flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag:

Pretty Boy
12-11-2013, 01:49 PM
Green and white is definitely Terrys colour.

Looks very dapper in that tie.

GreenCastle
12-11-2013, 01:49 PM
Sky Sports News now..

Alex Trager
12-11-2013, 01:50 PM
When is the news conference?

JollyGreenGiant
12-11-2013, 01:51 PM
Delighted this has finally been confirmed!

Think Big Tel is exactly what we need, great insight to his leadership style on the youtube presentation.

Hopefully we will see some real improvement.

GGTTH

Pretty Boy
12-11-2013, 01:52 PM
Petrie: Top 6 is no real achievement, it's a passing place to where we should be.

That's what i want to hear. Now some action please.

Leishy1995
12-11-2013, 01:52 PM
"Top 6 is no real achievement" Rod Petrie on sky sports news just now

Beefster
12-11-2013, 01:52 PM
Given that I wasn't particularly enamoured when Butcher was first mentioned as a possibility, I'm surprisingly excited about the Big Man and Moribund Malpas taking over. If we score a goal some time soon, things will have improved.

Thecat23
12-11-2013, 01:53 PM
Mmm 3 year deal.... I wonder where I read that? Yes I am milking this!!! :greengrin:cb

HIBERNIAN-0762
12-11-2013, 01:53 PM
Pathetic from Sky Sports! almost like lets get this out of the way and repeat for the 10th time about the French national squad!

Garbage reporting!

Heisenberg
12-11-2013, 01:54 PM
Mmm 3 year deal.... I wonder where I read that? Yes I am milking this!!! :greengrin:cb


I was promised Marsella TC...where's he at? :greengrin Well played though, called it ages ago.

lucky
12-11-2013, 01:55 PM
Delighted we got our first choice hopefully some sucess might finally come our way

S4uzee
12-11-2013, 01:56 PM
Pathetic from Sky Sports! almost like lets get this out of the way and repeat for the 10th time about the French national squad!

Garbage reporting!
Yeah that was ridiculous how quickly they moved onto that

Thecat23
12-11-2013, 01:56 PM
I was promised Marsella TC...where's he at? :greengrin Well played though, called it ages ago.

Haha he's coming don't you worry mate.

SteveHFC
12-11-2013, 01:57 PM
I was promised Marsella TC...where's he at? :greengrin Well played though, called it ages ago.

I wouldn't trust TC mate :greengrin

RoxburghHibs
12-11-2013, 01:58 PM
Mmm 3 year deal.... I wonder where I read that? Yes I am milking this!!! :greengrin:cb

Not to burst your bubble but it's not really a 3 year deal. It's until the end off season 2015-16 so more like 2 1/2 years :greengrin

Sergio sledge
12-11-2013, 01:59 PM
The Mouser is happy today!

Thecat23
12-11-2013, 02:00 PM
Not to burst your bubble but it's not really a 3 year deal. It's until the end off season 2015-16 so more like 2 1/2 years :greengrin

Awwww man, close enough :wink:

Hero76
12-11-2013, 02:01 PM
3 o'clock Press conference?

Heisenberg
12-11-2013, 02:01 PM
TB going to be on SSN live soon.

down-the-slope
12-11-2013, 02:02 PM
I think PF had to go for the club's sake and his own, but I don't think the real problems at ER are confined to the manager's office, the training ground, and the pitch.

The real problem is that the owner is invisible and apparently couldn't care less what the team does on the field, and that the chairman's main (indeed only) priority seems to be the balancing of the accounts at the end of the financial year regardless of the quality of the football team or the results that team achieves - or rather, fails to achieve.

Other chairmen manage to balance the books without reducing the team and club to the status of laughing-stock, which is what Hibs are right now. If the "God Petrie" can't do that, then he needs to go, NOW.

So while I earnestly desire for Butcher and Malpas to make a difference, I'm not by any means convinced that the influence of the "God Petrie" won't kipper their efforts. I hope I'm wrong, but I really wish he'd had the grace and honesty to tender his resignation when PF did.

And my understanding is that Hibs didn't punt Pat - Pat punted Hibs.

Nonsense if you take even a nano second to consider that.

TomTheHibbyBev
12-11-2013, 02:02 PM
Like this Petrie: Top 6 is no real achievement, it's a passing place to where we should be.

Pete
12-11-2013, 02:06 PM
I wouldn't trust TC mate :greengrin

Only close friends get to call him TC.

paul_hfc3
12-11-2013, 02:06 PM
Fantastic appointment. Welcome to Hibs Terry! GGTTH

RoxburghHibs
12-11-2013, 02:06 PM
Awwww man, close enough :wink:

LOL very true!!!

Craig_in_Prague
12-11-2013, 02:08 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/9022753/butcher-completes-hibs-move

bit of the video

green.and.white
12-11-2013, 02:08 PM
Terry speaking now on SSN!!!

Hibtastic
12-11-2013, 02:08 PM
Have you seen his frightening picture in the BBC article??

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24917107

SteveHFC
12-11-2013, 02:09 PM
Have you seen his frightening picture in the BBC article??

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24917107

That would make an excellent Pleasing Gif :greengrin

green.and.white
12-11-2013, 02:10 PM
Have you seen his frightening picture in the BBC article??

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24917107


:faf:

HUTCHYHIBBY
12-11-2013, 02:14 PM
Good interview by the boss! Get stuck in there Terry!

Pretty Boy
12-11-2013, 02:14 PM
Good interview

- everything in place except the team
- delighted to bring Malpas and hopes to bring Marsella
- believes confidence is a big factor
- thinks he can have us where he wants us in 18 months if not sooner
- room and funds for players to come in if needed.
- try to keep signings to a minimum and build confidence of players we have
- he will show the players how he wants them to play and get them doing it (repeated several times)
- at the start of the journey he wants to make a long one and wants the players to join him on it.

GreenCastle
12-11-2013, 02:15 PM
Spoke better in 10 mins than Fenlon and Calderwood did in 4 years.

SteveHFC
12-11-2013, 02:15 PM
:faf:

green.and.white
12-11-2013, 02:15 PM
Came across as a very engaging and funny man, I'm excited about this appointment :flag::thumbsup:

smurf
12-11-2013, 02:16 PM
Great interview there from Terry Butcher new manager of Hibernian FC on SKY Sports News!

Purehibee_MYB
12-11-2013, 02:16 PM
"Still unbeaten as Hibs manager after one day."

Think I'm gonna love TB :greengrin

Mikey
12-11-2013, 02:16 PM
Good interview

- everything in place except the team
- delighted to bring Malpas and hopes to bring Marsella
- believes confidence is a big factor
- thinks he can have us where he wants us in 18 months if not sooner
- room and funds for players to come in if needed.
- try to keep signings to a minimum and build confidence of players we have
- he will show the players how he wants them to play and get them doing it (repeated several times)
- at the start of the journey he wants to make a long one and wants the players to join him on it.

That's the key for me and I've been saying it for a while. I'm still convinced TB and MM will benefit from PF's work at Hibs.

And therefore so will we!

HUTCHYHIBBY
12-11-2013, 02:17 PM
Spoke better in 10 mins than Fenlon and Calderwood did in 4 years.

Very much so.

lucky
12-11-2013, 02:17 PM
Very impressed with TBs interview on sky sports. Can't wait for our next game now. Listening to TB gives you hope for the future compared to PF who was hoping for a future

hfcok
12-11-2013, 02:17 PM
Spoke better in 10 mins than Fenlon and Calderwood did in 4 years.

He sure did,but unlike all the others you feel with Tel he will make it happen........I like him already with that interview,luvs a wee joke as well

Love the Green
12-11-2013, 02:17 PM
Good interview

- everything in place except the team
- delighted to bring Malpas and hopes to bring Marsella
- believes confidence is a big factor
- thinks he can have us where he wants us in 18 months if not sooner
- room and funds for players to come in if needed.
- try to keep signings to a minimum and build confidence of players we have
- he will show the players how he wants them to play and get them doing it (repeated several times)
- at the start of the journey he wants to make a long one and wants the players to join him on it.

great interview absolute breath of fresh air..said some great things and created a feel good factor with all fans I am sure. "keep the faith"

Leishy1995
12-11-2013, 02:18 PM
Best Hibs manger interview in years. Hopes he can bring the scout with him. That's the best part!

Lester B
12-11-2013, 02:18 PM
Good interview

- everything in place except the team
- delighted to bring Malpas and hopes to bring Marsella
- believes confidence is a big factor
- thinks he can have us where he wants us in 18 months if not sooner
- room and funds for players to come in if needed.
- try to keep signings to a minimum and build confidence of players we have
- he will show the players how he wants them to play and get them doing it (repeated several times)
- at the start of the journey he wants to make a long one and wants the players to join him on it.

Playing a blinder so far with comments like that. Regardless of whether we do have a strong squad or not, and that's been a point of argument on here, we do have a squad who are under achieving. Let's go for achieving, then over-achieving.

GreenLake
12-11-2013, 02:19 PM
My apologies then for thinking you were using it as a stick to beat him already.

I don't watch "walking dead" so I have no idea if they come from that or not? I was impressed with his presentation and his attitude and drive and passion for his job just shine through.

I just put my stick back in the cupboard after the last manager resigned! :greengrin

I was impressed by Butcher before I saw that presentation and after watching it, all the more so. I think he will quickly get the attention of the players using his evocative communication skills and inspire them with positive playing directions - and all validated by high level football experience as a leader.

Can't wait to see him transform both individual players and the team towards a modern rebirth of Hibernian class on the park. :flag:

HibeeSince82
12-11-2013, 02:19 PM
Thought that was a great interview by Butcher on SSN.

As someone else said talked more sense in that wee interview then we have heard in the last 3 managers put together

Can't wait now for the next home game

:flag::flag:

jamieross
12-11-2013, 02:20 PM
Good interview

- everything in place except the team
- delighted to bring Malpas and hopes to bring Marsella
- believes confidence is a big factor
- thinks he can have us where he wants us in 18 months if not sooner
- room and funds for players to come in if needed.
- try to keep signings to a minimum and build confidence of players we have
- he will show the players how he wants them to play and get them doing it (repeated several times)
- at the start of the journey he wants to make a long one and wants the players to join him on it.

Add to that happy to bring players in and use locals through the youth system. Something thats mentioned on here often enough.

God Petrie
12-11-2013, 02:22 PM
Popped over to KB for some reasoned thoughts on our new manager. Apparently we "cheated" by approaching ICT and he's a crap manager anyway being carried by Malpas and Marsella.

GIRUY

Hibs7
12-11-2013, 02:24 PM
Anyone have a link to the full interview ?

Saorsa
12-11-2013, 02:25 PM
Good interview from Victor....sorry, Terry there :thumbsup:

Hibs7
12-11-2013, 02:25 PM
Popped over to KB for some reasoned thoughts on our new manager. Apparently we "cheated" by approaching ICT and he's a crap manager anyway being carried by Malpas and Marsella.

GIRUY

:greengrin:greengrin:na na:

yerauldda
12-11-2013, 02:26 PM
Popped over to KB for some reasoned thoughts on our new manager. Apparently we "cheated" by approaching ICT and he's a crap manager anyway being carried by Malpas and Marsella.

GIRUY

He's no Gary Locke, that's for sure

Thecat23
12-11-2013, 02:30 PM
Only close friends get to call him TC.

Exactly, get him told :greengrin

Hibernia Na Eir
12-11-2013, 02:32 PM
Popped over to KB for some reasoned thoughts on our new manager. Apparently we "cheated" by approaching ICT and he's a crap manager anyway being carried by Malpas and Marsella.

GIRUY

funny, the Jambo's in my work were desperate we didn't get Terry B.

They certainly didn't say he was crap!

Who cares.

Welcome tae Hibs Terry Boy!

TomTheHibbyBev
12-11-2013, 02:32 PM
Good interview from , Terry http://www.hibs.net/images/smilies/thumbs%20up.gif Lets get behind the Team !!!

Flanny boy
12-11-2013, 02:39 PM
He's no Gary Locke, that's for sure
:top marks:top marks:top marks:flag::top marks:top marks:top marks

jodjam
12-11-2013, 02:44 PM
Good interview but ssn could have at least let oor Kirsty conduct the interview.

Sir David Gray
12-11-2013, 02:45 PM
I think PF had to go for the club's sake and his own, but I don't think the real problems at ER are confined to the manager's office, the training ground, and the pitch.

The real problem is that the owner is invisible and apparently couldn't care less what the team does on the field, and that the chairman's main (indeed only) priority seems to be the balancing of the accounts at the end of the financial year regardless of the quality of the football team or the results that team achieves - or rather, fails to achieve.

Other chairmen manage to balance the books without reducing the team and club to the status of laughing-stock, which is what Hibs are right now. If the "God Petrie" can't do that, then he needs to go, NOW.

So while I earnestly desire for Butcher and Malpas to make a difference, I'm not by any means convinced that the influence of the "God Petrie" won't kipper their efforts. I hope I'm wrong, but I really wish he'd had the grace and honesty to tender his resignation when PF did.

And my understanding is that Hibs didn't punt Pat - Pat punted Hibs.

:top marks Totally agree with all of that.

I obviously hope that Butcher does well and if he can get us playing like Inverness are playing just now then I'll be ecstatic.

I won't be changing my view in terms of the bigger picture though. We need big changes to take place at boardroom level and I honestly believe that Pat Fenlon wasn't/isn't the biggest problem at Easter Road.

I hope I'm wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if we are talking about getting a new manager in place in around 18 months.

green glory
12-11-2013, 02:47 PM
He's no Gary Locke, that's for sure

That's unfair.

We may one day look back on the Butcher years as a golden age for Hibs.

Surely these truly are the 'golden years' for the Yams too?

smurf
12-11-2013, 02:49 PM
We are all rightly greatly enthused by the interview Terry Butcher gave on SKY Sports but Rodders spoke very well too on SKY.

Craig_HFC
12-11-2013, 02:51 PM
Any link to the full interview for those of us who have no access to SSN at work?

Ta :aok:

GreenLake
12-11-2013, 02:52 PM
Popped over to KB for some reasoned thoughts on our new manager. Apparently we "cheated" by approaching ICT and he's a crap manager anyway being carried by Malpas and Marsella.

GIRUY

And they also think "If Terry Butcher is Hibs, that makes Diego Armando Maradona, Heart of Midlothian. That's just logic, really."

By that logic, if Maradona is HMFC then Terry Butcher must be Albert Kidd.

Hibby Gav
12-11-2013, 02:53 PM
11305

Billychaotic182
12-11-2013, 02:53 PM
Any links to the interview I'm at work lol

PatHead
12-11-2013, 02:55 PM
Have you seen his frightening picture in the BBC article??

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24917107

Got to be a competition as to the question he was responding to.............I'll start with "Are you as good as Gary Locke?" or "Is Maradona on your coaching staff?"

TAHibby
12-11-2013, 02:57 PM
It there was to be a notable improvement in the next few games I would be very impressed but really don't think it'll be that easy. Please let this work out... I want to be excited on a Saturday, not just because hibs are playing, but because there's a good side to go and watch. Never experienced that feeling yet!
:flag:

alfie
12-11-2013, 03:01 PM
Got to be a competition as to the question he was responding to.............

When does the calendar signing start? :duck:

Sir David Gray
12-11-2013, 03:02 PM
Have to disagree with you here. I'm not aware if Terry Butcher has been given targets and not really fussed as I think we now have a manager who will set his own and that will be to make us best of the rest. He left a team in second place where his remit is to keep them in league to come to the shambles that is Hibs. I have no doubt he is here to fulfil his ambitions and whilst Rod and STF may not show huge desire on the football side they want to see it go well to support the money side. This club needs a huge personality like TB who will be able to influence RP and dictate how he wants things to run rather than PF shrugging his shoulders and claiming he has little to do with the academy. If TB is as strong willed as he seems there will be huge change in our club and whilst he won't be given money we don't have he will be able to insert his will on the football side of things. RP knows he can't get this wrong so will back TB as much as possible. Good times ahead I think :flag:

I expect to have people in charge of our club who live and breathe the football side of things and who take an active role in engaging with the fans and setting challenging but achievable targets to the coaching staff. We do not get enough of that with the current hierarchy and it needs to change if we are going to really see any meaningful changes.

I don't mean this personally but I saw many posts like your one almost exactly two years ago when Calderwood left and Petrie was getting it in the neck for getting his appointment so wrong. People were talking about how it was last chance saloon for him in terms of appointing the right man and yet two years on, we're onto another manager and yet again it's another final chance for Petrie and the board to get it right.

How many final chances are they allowed?

jdships
12-11-2013, 03:02 PM
Originally Posted by Doddie
I think PF had to go for the club's sake and his own, but I don't think the real problems at ER are confined to the manager's office, the training ground, and the pitch.

The real problem is that the owner is invisible and apparently couldn't care less what the team does on the field, and that the chairman's main (indeed only) priority seems to be the balancing of the accounts at the end of the financial year regardless of the quality of the football team or the results that team achieves - or rather, fails to achieve.

Other chairmen manage to balance the books without reducing the team and club to the status of laughing-stock, which is what Hibs are right now. If the "God Petrie" can't do that, then he needs to go, NOW.

So while I earnestly desire for Butcher and Malpas to make a difference, I'm not by any means convinced that the influence of the "God Petrie" won't kipper their efforts. I hope I'm wrong, but I really wish he'd had the grace and honesty to tender his resignation when PF did.

And my understanding is that Hibs didn't punt Pat - Pat punted Hibs.


May I ask on what evidence have you posted that ridiculous statement
Have you ever met STF , spent time with him, spoken with him ?
If you haven't and it would appear you haven't I suggest you speak to some of the senior Hibs players .

My two young rellies who are well down the order speak well of his interest and disquiet at the present situation
In RP's case , as the saying goes " be careful what you wish for "

As to PF that is old news . Most of the Hibs players will tell you he was talking of " having had enough of the bad mouthing" after the Aberdeen game


Thanks to ER Board for the appointment and wish TB et al every success in the future .
Also trust PF is back in employment quickly - a really nice person to speak to

:flag:

Pete
12-11-2013, 03:03 PM
And they also think "[COLOR=#282828][FONT=helvetica]If Terry Butcher is Hibs, that makes Diego Armando Maradona, Heart of Midlothian. That's just logic, really."


Aye, but only the part that cheated.

Part/Time Supporter
12-11-2013, 03:08 PM
And they also think "If Terry Butcher is Hibs, that makes Diego Armando Maradona, Heart of Midlothian. That's just logic, really."

By that logic, if Maradona is HMFC then Terry Butcher must be Albert Kidd.

In fairness to the Yams, that comparison isn't as barmy as it sounds.

Maradona is also a tax dodger.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/diego-maradona-returns-italy-tax-1731132


DIEGO MARADONA returned to Italy on Monday in a bid to clear his name in a tax evasion case.

The 1986 World Cup winner with Argentina landed in Rome dressed in black and wearing dark glasses before heading straight to Naples, where he will hold a news conference Tuesday morning.

Maradona's Italian debts of nearly 40 million euros (more than $50 million) stem from alleged unpaid taxes during the time he played for Napoli from 1984-91, a period in which he helped the club win its only two Serie A titles.

Where the comparison falls down a tad is that Maradona won a trophy in 1986. Unlike Hearts.

:wink:

Pretty Boy
12-11-2013, 03:11 PM
Just seen his stats and they aren't bad at all.

Win percentages of 33%, 30%, 34%, 39%, 22% and 42%.

The only real blip there is Brentford. 34% ar Motherwell is fantastic considering what they were going through at the time and 42% at ICT speaks for itself.

cabbageandribs1875
12-11-2013, 03:11 PM
Popped over to KB for some reasoned thoughts on our new manager. Apparently we "cheated" by approaching ICT and he's a crap manager anyway being carried by Malpas and Marsella.

GIRUY



that's one word the yamboids will never ever EVER be able to use again without anyone laughing at them

--------
12-11-2013, 03:23 PM
May I ask on what evidence have you posted that ridiculous statement
Have you ever met STF , spent time with him, spoken with him ?
If you haven't and it would appear you haven't I suggest you speak to some of the senior Hibs players .

My two young rellies who are well down the order speak well of his interest and disquiet at the present situation
In RP's case , as the saying goes " be careful what you wish for "

As to PF that is old news . Most of the Hibs players will tell you he was talking of " having had enough of the bad mouthing" after the Aberdeen game


Thanks to ER Board for the appointment and wish TB et al every success in the future .
Also trust PF is back in employment quickly - a really nice person to speak to

:flag:



When was the last time Farmer was at a game?

The Tubs
12-11-2013, 03:25 PM
When was the last time Farmer was at a game?

On Hibs TV, it looked like he was there on Saturday.

Pretty Boy
12-11-2013, 03:26 PM
When was the last time Farmer was at a game?

Saturday.

--------
12-11-2013, 03:30 PM
Saturday.

I stand corrected.

He's woken up. :rolleyes:

Mikey
12-11-2013, 03:31 PM
When was the last time Farmer was at a game?

He goes to a lot of games.

You've been believing too much of the stuff you read on hibs.net :greengrin

--------
12-11-2013, 03:32 PM
He goes to a lot of games.

You've been believing too much of the stuff you read on hibs.net :greengrin



Then he should be aware how bad the team is and be doing something more about it than he has been.

Peevemor
12-11-2013, 03:35 PM
When was the last time Farmer was at a game?

Not only has he lost his "Sir" and his "Tom", but also his capital F.

He really is in your bad books isn't he? :greengrin

--------
12-11-2013, 03:39 PM
Not only has he lost his "Sir" and his "Tom", but also his capital F.

He really is in your bad books isn't he? :greengrin


A typographical error old son, nothing in it. I've given him his capital F back.

As we might say, there's only one "F" in Farmer. :devil:

Hermit Crab
12-11-2013, 03:45 PM
Welcome sir Terrence. Sort this lot of wage thief's out.

The_Sauz
12-11-2013, 03:50 PM
Anyone have a link to the full interview ?



http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/9022876/butcher-appointed-hibs-boss

HibbyAndy
12-11-2013, 03:51 PM
Utterly delighted.

We got our number 1 target.

down-the-slope
12-11-2013, 03:55 PM
When was the last time Farmer was at a game?

Saturday...Ironic you are accusing him of not paying enough attention :greengrin

Edit...I see others have pointed this out already

He could always interfere with those he has put in charge and maybe pick the team...

carnoustiehibee
12-11-2013, 03:57 PM
Then he should be aware how bad the team is and be doing something more about it than he has been.

Think you need to take Yir heed for a ***** doddie lad

TomoHFC
12-11-2013, 03:58 PM
Went on kickback and someone said we cheated to get butcher from Caley. How many times have we seen hearts say Cheats, Cheaters or Cheatings this season?

SaulGoodman
12-11-2013, 04:00 PM
Went on kickback and someone said we cheated to get butcher from Caley. How many times have we seen hearts say Cheats, Cheaters or Cheatings this season?

About the same amount as the Hearts board has said "Ehm ah'll square you up for that later"

hibby rae
12-11-2013, 04:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iastcLQR-u4

Don't know if this has been posted yet. From the press conference earlier.

Persevere80
12-11-2013, 04:01 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/9022876/butcher-appointed-hibs-boss

Thank you.

Glory Glory

Smiggy 7-0
12-11-2013, 04:08 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/9022876/butcher-appointed-hibs-boss Good interview, came across very well, and seems to know what is expected. Welcome Terry & Maurice.

Islington Hibs
12-11-2013, 04:10 PM
Very good interview. He exudes confidence and self belief with a little wit.

Few interesting comments. He clearly believes the basis of the team is there minus confidence and I tend to agree. He also eluded to pretty generous staffing levels at the club-suspect there will be a few worried people tonight which can only be a good thing.

down-the-slope
12-11-2013, 04:12 PM
Snippets from interview

He says he and MM play good cop bad cop :faf: (incontinence pants for the player I think)

Steve M scouted 7 of the ICT team that beat us Saturday (need the hattrick of appointments then)

hibbybrian
12-11-2013, 04:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iastcLQR-u4

Don't know if this has been posted yet. From the press conference earlier.

Thanks for that :thumbsup:

greenlex
12-11-2013, 04:25 PM
When was the last time Farmer was at a game?

Reckon he has certainly been a bit more than you doddie

One Day Soon
12-11-2013, 04:38 PM
A typographical error old son, nothing in it. I've given him his capital F back.

As we might say, there's only one "F" in Farmer. :devil:

Time for a graceful withdrawal I think Doddie...

Famous Fiver
12-11-2013, 04:41 PM
Better get the jiners in. I reckon a few doors are going to get slammed pretty hard!!!!

PatHead
12-11-2013, 04:42 PM
Must admit after the last 2 appointments I thought- okay there must be something there so give them a chance. (Though I did want Terry Butcher last time around). Now I am really excited and can't wait on the next game. I think our fortunes will improve very, very quickly. He looks and sounds like he knows to motivate players which will get their confidence back. I am sure the players will believe in him and we will very quickly get the new manager bounce. Add a bit pace in January and a top 4 finish should be the least we get. At the beginning of the season many of us were saying we had one of the best squads on paper, now is the chance for them to show it on grass. "C'MON (C@MON) THE HIBS" :flag:Welcome to the club Terry and Mo.

HibbySpurs
12-11-2013, 04:45 PM
That's the key for me and I've been saying it for a while. I'm still convinced TB and MM will benefit from PF's work at Hibs.

And therefore so will we!

I think in hindsight history may judge Pat Fenlon more kindly than we currently have.

Some poor bugger had to the donkey work and lay the foundations maybe in a couple of years.... Say May 2015 when a Hibs captain holds a certain silver trophy aloft he'll sit back in his chair in Ireland and smile knowing he contributed to it? Here's hoping anyway :-)


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JeMeSouviens
12-11-2013, 04:49 PM
And they also think "If Terry Butcher is Hibs, that makes Diego Armando Maradona, Heart of Midlothian. That's just logic, really."

By that logic, if Maradona is HMFC then Terry Butcher must be Albert Kidd.

Nah, it's a theme of OldHun centre halves: if Terry is Hibs, then Hearts are Richard Gough, CHI...... :lips seal

sesoim
12-11-2013, 04:51 PM
I was critical of the appointments of Fenlon and Calderwood from the word go. I had serious questions about why we appointed Hughes and Collins (basically, I felt they were appointed to please the fans who were demanding a "Hibby" in charge). But I'll happily put my head on the block here and say that Petrie has finally gotten an appointment right. I think Butcher will be like McLeish - he'll be no nonsense, he'll act quickly, and he'll do whatever it takes to drag this club up to where it should be.

If this appointment doesn't work then surely the whole running of the club would have to come into question, as Butcher has done well with Motherwell and amazingly well with Inverness on much smaller budgets. But I think Petrie has finally gotten it right. Good luck Butcher and Malpas, and good luck Hibs!!

hibees 7062
12-11-2013, 04:52 PM
Good interview

- everything in place except the team
- delighted to bring Malpas and hopes to bring Marsella
- believes confidence is a big factor
- thinks he can have us where he wants us in 18 months if not sooner
- room and funds for players to come in if needed.
- try to keep signings to a minimum and build confidence of players we have
- he will show the players how he wants them to play and get them doing it (repeated several times)
- at the start of the journey he wants to make a long one and wants the players to join him on it.

What aboot us ? :greengrin

Crossgates Hibs
12-11-2013, 04:59 PM
I expect to have people in charge of our club who live and breathe the football side of things and who take an active role in engaging with the fans and setting challenging but achievable targets to the coaching staff. We do not get enough of that with the current hierarchy and it needs to change if we are going to really see any meaningful changes.

I don't mean this personally but I saw many posts like your one almost exactly two years ago when Calderwood left and Petrie was getting it in the neck for getting his appointment so wrong. People were talking about how it was last chance saloon for him in terms of appointing the right man and yet two years on, we're onto another manager and yet again it's another final chance for Petrie and the board to get it right.

How many final chances are they allowed?


As many as they like they own the club and there is nobody after buying it. In fairness I think we need a director of football who would appoint new managers and be the go between the board and the manager but it needs to be the right person. Apart from CC and PF we have had who we all wanted appointed as manager doesn't always work out. The exception being TM hence the latter two signed hing to replicate TM but failing miserably.

jakeshibs
12-11-2013, 05:00 PM
Welcome TB and MM , I am a very happy Hibby, good luck and lets get in tae them cant wait to see us play now am excited again fantastic day, I am more confident already:flag:

sesoim
12-11-2013, 05:01 PM
I think in hindsight history may judge Pat Fenlon more kindly than we currently have.

Some poor bugger had to the donkey work and lay the foundations maybe in a couple of years.... Say May 2015 when a Hibs captain holds a certain silver trophy aloft he'll sit back in his chair in Ireland and smile knowing he contributed to it? Here's hoping anyway :-)


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Sorry, but I totally disagree. The only credit I'd give Fenlon is that he's made 3 or 4 signing that might in the long run do a good job for us (but then who couldn't do that when you've made as many signings as Fenlon has?). But he was clueless about tactics and formations and we were never going to make any real progress with him in charge. And it might take Butcher a while to sort the squad our seeing as Fenlon has flooded it with mediocre non-creative midfielders, yet left us desperately needing more goals and creativity.

bandylegs_jLeighton
12-11-2013, 05:03 PM
TB live on sportsound

HibbySpurs
12-11-2013, 05:10 PM
Sorry, but I totally disagree. The only credit I'd give Fenlon is that he's made 3 or 4 signing that might in the long run do a good job for us (but then who couldn't do that when you've made as many signings as Fenlon has?). But he was clueless about tactics and formations and we were never going to make any real progress with him in charge. And it might take Butcher a while to sort the squad our seeing as Fenlon has flooded it with mediocre non-creative midfielders, yet left us desperately needing more goals and creativity.

I wasn't referring to his tactical ability which was obviously sadly lacking. I was making comment on how he made changes behind the scenes and altered the culture of the club for the better.

On the field he was pretty hopeless but the groundwork he's done behind the scenes may well bear fruit under Butcher.


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ancienthibby
12-11-2013, 05:11 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/9022876/butcher-appointed-hibs-boss

TB is pure quality!!

At last we have a Manager who can knot a tie perfectly!!

How can we lack for anything now?:cb

Bobby's Cinema
12-11-2013, 05:15 PM
Marsella will be joining - TB on BBCSportsound now :aok:

Col2
12-11-2013, 05:16 PM
TB confirmed chief scout is coming to ER. Hibs now have permission to speak to him as off today.

Fantastic news.

hibees 7062
12-11-2013, 05:18 PM
May I ask on what evidence have you posted that ridiculous statement
Have you ever met STF , spent time with him, spoken with him ?
If you haven't and it would appear you haven't I suggest you speak to some of the senior Hibs players .

My two young rellies who are well down the order speak well of his interest and disquiet at the present situation
In RP's case , as the saying goes " be careful what you wish for "

As to PF that is old news . Most of the Hibs players will tell you he was talking of " having had enough of the bad mouthing" after the Aberdeen game


Thanks to ER Board for the appointment and wish TB et al every success in the future .
Also trust PF is back in employment quickly - a really nice person to speak to

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:top marks

PeeJay
12-11-2013, 05:21 PM
Glad to see Butcher has indeed signed and that we can now get on with improving the team. In the interviews kindly posted here (thanx everyone! :thumbsup:) Butcher made a good impression. I particularly liked the comments regarding the hard work that will have to be done on the training ground and the working on the basics and team confidence - something that has obviously been missing at ER. I just hope he can make it all come true for us - wish him (and his coaching team) all the best in his endeavours at the club. I'm all for going on the journey he speaks of ... :greengrin

Mon Dieu4
12-11-2013, 05:28 PM
Im not a fortune teller so can't say if he will be a success or not, but I've not heard a Hibs manager speak with such passion and determination in a very long time, i have high hopes for Butcher, even hearing him talk has lifted my spirits, if he can do the same with the players then he should be a great appointment

actually looking forward to the next game, can't remember the last time i did

HibbySpurs
12-11-2013, 05:29 PM
TB fantastic on sportsound. Really excited by this appointment and the knowledge that Marsella is on his way to join TB & MM just excites even more.

References to playing the Hibs way he immediately acknowledges what we want and I firmly believe he can deliver!

Just listening to Rod the now, he really is wily old fox lol!!!! Spinning managerial statistics to deflect the question, Tache for first minster!




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BOB MARLEYS DUG
12-11-2013, 05:30 PM
Absolutely f****** brilliant news. Well done Hibs & Rodders:agree:. Welcome Terry, Maurice & Steve (who will join up):thumbsup: Cannot wait for our next home game now! Actually considering going to paisley, I'm that confident already:greengrin. Lets bring the feel good factor back to ER like old times, GGTTH:flag:

HibsNZ
12-11-2013, 05:38 PM
Probably the best manager we could have got from within the Scottish game!

bigwheel
12-11-2013, 05:38 PM
I'm sure it's been posted in the 90 odd pages... but I only today found out that our El Tel wasn't born in England but in Singapore! We are indeed a cosmopolitan club! ;-)

green.and.white
12-11-2013, 05:40 PM
There's hope again:flag:

SouthamptonHibs
12-11-2013, 05:42 PM
Welcome to Hibs TB and MM hail hail

rcarter1
12-11-2013, 05:52 PM
Am feeling quite light headed and overcome with a number of powerful emotions. 'RobotHibee icon'

:flag::thumbsup::flag:

S4uzee
12-11-2013, 05:52 PM
Will the sportsound show be available to listen to again?

Gustavo Fring
12-11-2013, 05:53 PM
great news , liked his interview 'the building blocks are in place - all thats missing is the team'

he shoots from the hip and says it like it is . welcome aboard terry

Glesgahibby
12-11-2013, 05:58 PM
Good feeling about this,think this kenny dude on bbc is spewing :greengrin
welcome Terry and Maurice :thumbsup:

hibby rae
12-11-2013, 05:59 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24897952

"Stamina, style and steel".

chriswood1401
12-11-2013, 06:00 PM
Will the sportsound show be available to listen to again?

Aye, they usually release a podcast you can download about 8pm.

S4uzee
12-11-2013, 06:05 PM
Aye, they usually release a podcast you can download about 8pm.

Cheers :aok: