Hibs fans at the Scottish Cup Final

[Jamesie]

Times reporting a maximum of 2,000 rather than the previously reported 3,000:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/maximum-of-2-000-fans-for-scottish-cup-final-jmjc96ml8

[Steven79]

Times reporting a maximum of 2,000 rather than the previously reported 3,000:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/maximum-of-2-000-fans-for-scottish-cup-final-jmjc96ml8

More chance of finding a honest Tory than getting a ticket for the final.

[Jamesie]

Meanwhile, up to 10k at Twickenham on the same weekend: https://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/story/_/id/31364103/twickenham-stage-european-finals-10000-fans

[WeAreHibs]

How about giving NHS workers and carers priority as another small way of saying thanks?

[Broken Gnome]

Lincoln-Sunderland will have 3,100 for their playoff semi-final.

[calumhibee1]

Lincoln-Sunderland will have 3,100 for their playoff semi-final.

30% of capacity.

[Callum_62]

Whine when no fans, whine when no enough fans

Whine coz the SFA are doing nothing as its non OF, whine when they do something but its not enough

And no one even knows the numbers yet!

Il be chuffed for whoever manages to actually see us lifting the Scottish Cup in person

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[The Baldmans Comb]

If 500 is the currently allowed number of fans attending and the SFA are now asking for 3,000 then Glasgow City Council and then the Scottish Government are going to have to jump through some hoops to allow this.

However it would be naive not to think that this hasn't already been discussed informally and behind closed doors but the SFA will still have to present a plan as how they will meet with all the regulations on social distancing, transport, stewarding etc.

I don't really see what the situation in a different country such as England's approach to sporting events has to do with the Scottish Cup final.

Its not exactly a gold standard country to follow in regards to its handling of the Covid pandemic so its a strange argument to imply that Scotland should follow the English model in regards to attendance at sporting events.

[calumhibee1]

Whine when no fans, whine when no enough fans

Whine coz the SFA are doing nothing as its non OF, whine when they do something but its not enough

And no one even knows the numbers yet!

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I don’t think any of that is unreasonable really though.

No fans or not enough fans, neither is good enough from the SFA and Scot Gov. It goes completely against what the U.K. Gov are allowing and they’ve actually bothered their arse to do test events unlike us up here. They are better placed to make a better judgment than we are and are letting so many more fans into games.

Up here we’ll just pluck a pathetically low number out the sky and have people tell us we should be thankful for our lot.

[StevesFamau5]

How about giving NHS workers and carers priority as another small way of saying thanks?This.


Only this.

I like many would love to be there BUT I absolutely believe that the frontline NHS workers should be 1st dibs. They did something similar for the Superbowl and that worked out fine.

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[Onion]

Times reporting a maximum of 2,000 rather than the previously reported 3,000:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/maximum-of-2-000-fans-for-scottish-cup-final-jmjc96ml8

Need to get the ER cardboard cutouts into Hampden. Well behaved, not needed after Sat and will be company for the lonely, fortunate few. Also, more could say "we were there " :cb

[Sir David Gray]

30% of capacity.

The equivalent for Hampden would be over 15,000.

[flash]

I don’t think any of that is unreasonable really though.

No fans or not enough fans, neither is good enough from the SFA and Scot Gov. It goes completely against what the U.K. Gov are allowing and they’ve actually bothered their arse to do test events unlike us up here. They are better placed to make a better judgment than we are and are letting so many more fans into games.

Up here we’ll just pluck a pathetically low number out the sky and have people tell us we should be thankful for our lot.

There is a chance that UEFA have put a limit on this.

[BoomtownHibees]

Need to get the ER cardboard cutouts into Hampden. Well behaved, not needed after Sat and will be company for the lonely, fortunate few. Also, more could say "we were there " :cb

Na, their support hasn’t been good enough based on our home form. Shouldn’t be anywhere near Hampden.

Cardboard cutouts out!!!

[calumhibee1]

This.


Only this.

I like many would love to be there BUT I absolutely believe that the frontline NHS workers should be 1st dibs. They did something similar for the Superbowl and that worked out fine.

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Na. There’s clearly still a massive risk allowing fans into the games judging by the numbers we’re going to be allowed so we can’t have a spread in the NHS.

🤥

[calumhibee1]

There is a chance that UEFA have put a limit on this.

I’d very much doubt that when Wembley are going to be holding a hell of a lot more at the end of may.

However, if that was the case then the SFA have to go public with that once a final decision is reached.

[Since452]

Not getting my knickers in a twist over the number of fans. Is what it it is.

[green day]

I’d very much doubt that when Wembley are going to be holding a hell of a lot more.

However, if that was the case then the SFA have to go public with that once a final decision is reached.

I think you are right. Whatever the final number given, the question has to be asked "why not 12000?".

If the numbers are as pitiful as we have seen quoted, the SFA are basically putting loads of pressure on Hibs to allocate a small %age over a big ST population in a fair manner.

Different for St J, who can get 3/4 of their 1200 ST holders in, although similar logistics with family groups.

[calumhibee1]

I think you are right. Whatever the final number given, the question has to be asked "why not 12000?".

If the numbers are as pitiful as we have seen quoted, the SFA are basically putting loads of pressure on Hibs to allocate a small %age over a big ST population in a fair manner.

Different for St J, who can get 3/4 of their 1200 ST holders in, although similar logistics with family groups.

In England it’s currently a max of 10000 or 25% capacity, whatever is less.

Based on that, 10k would be reasonable imo. This is what happens though when you don’t organise any test events and show very little appetite to open things like sport etc up again.

[HH81]

My rugby team have just announced fans can attend at 850 for the first home game, looks about 10 to 20% of capacity which is better than I thought it would be.

Surely 20% of Hampden is achievable and it's the same weekend.

[Bostonhibby]

Need to get the ER cardboard cutouts into Hampden. Well behaved, not needed after Sat and will be company for the lonely, fortunate few. Also, more could say "we were there " :cbIt's a great idea and there's an outside chance Glasgows finest will be able to catch at least a couple of them when they invade the pitch to assault every single st Johnstone player.

I just hope the Scottish cup supporters and West of Scotland fc supporters cut outs stay off the pitch this time around as like last time theres really not going to be anything for them to celebrate.

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[Onion]

In England it’s currently a max of 10000 or 25% capacity, whatever is less.

Based on that, 10k would be reasonable imo. This is what happens though when you don’t organise any test events and show very little appetite to open things like sport etc up again.

:agree: Does smack of a reluctant gesture by the SFA, as they've run out of excuses to do nothing. They'll already have detailed plans for handling 12000 at the Euros, so can't use that one either. 10k would at least have a logic and be in proportion to the capacity and other events being schedules elsewhere.

[Hibbyradge]

How many staff do Hibs have? I think they should all get a ticket and the players in the squad should get a couple each for their families.

Next I'd give them to NHS workers who are ST holders and after that a straightforward ballot of ST members.

[Tambo]

Fingers crossed some fans can get in, any newspaper on fitting out hampden in flags? Would be a big ask with no fans or limited.

[EI255]

My rugby team have just announced fans can attend at 850 for the first home game, looks about 10 to 20% of capacity which is better than I thought it would be.

Surely 20% of Hampden is achievable and it's the same weekend.The whole thing smacks of Scottish Government simply not trusting football fans and alcohol. Simple as that.

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[hibee-boys]

2,000.....what a joke, token gesture. I’ve no doubt it would’ve been a ‘test event’ with 10,000 going if either of the bigot brothers were involved.

[Hibbyradge]

The whole thing smacks of Scottish Government simply not trusting football fans and alcohol. Simple as that.

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That's an understandable concern, even if you disagree with it.

[Kaff]

In England it’s currently a max of 10000 or 25% capacity, whatever is less.

Based on that, 10k would be reasonable imo. This is what happens though when you don’t organise any test events and show very little appetite to open things like sport etc up again.

Well said.
Just makes us look 2nd rate.
SFA need to be vocal about these limits, if they have lobbied for more then get out and say it, deals and figures agreed behind closed doors are the worst kind.
Jason Leitch was good on Off the Ball for 1 or 2 weeks and then he starts on his high horse and believing all his hype.
'We'll let you have this but you can't have everything' while giving football next to nothing.
He loves all this control

[Brightside]

The whole thing smacks of Scottish Government simply not trusting football fans and alcohol. Simple as that.

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and they are spot on tbh.

[Ronniekirk]

Meanwhile, up to 10k at Twickenham on the same weekend: https://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/story/_/id/31364103/twickenham-stage-european-finals-10000-fans

That’s what it should be What’s the point in getting vaccinated and wearing masks snd social distancing and yet you can’t go to an outdoor event in reasonable numbers
The chances of getting it outside under those precautions in place must be ziltch
It defies logic to me
They say we are getting back to normal so this is an ideal opportunity
Scotland fans getting more opportunity to attend than we are
It just doesn’t make sense



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[Jones28]

The whole thing smacks of Scottish Government simply not trusting football fans and alcohol. Simple as that.

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Tbf if this is the case (and I suspect it might well be) you don't have to go far to find the evidence.

[calumhibee1]

Tbf if this is the case (and I suspect it might well be) you don't have to go far to find the evidence.

You probably wouldn’t have to go far to find evidence against opening pubs as well in that case and yet we’re opening them indoors, 7 days a week, 12 hours a day or whatever they’ll be open with people in much closer proximity to each other than they would be if 10k were in Hampden for 2 hours outdoors on a one off occasion.

Will some folk end up pished and wandering from their seat? Almost definitely. Will that happen in pubs? Definitely.

Will some end up fighting? Possibly (although I’d doubt that tbh). Will some folk end up fighting in pubs? Definitely.

[Callum_62]

That’s what it should be What’s the point in getting vaccinated and wearing masks snd social distancing and yet you can’t go to an outdoor event in reasonable numbers
The chances of getting it outside under those precautions in place must be ziltch
It defies logic to me
They say we are getting back to normal so this is an ideal opportunity
Scotland fans getting more opportunity to attend than we are
It just doesn’t make sense



Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkReasonable numbers are attending the euros arnt they?

I'm certain if hibs didn't make the final no one would bat an eyelid about the attendence

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[Jones28]

You probably wouldn’t have to go far to find evidence against opening pubs as well in that case and yet we’re opening them indoors, 7 days a week, 12 hours a day or whatever they’ll be open with people in much closer proximity to each other than they would be if 10k were in Hampden for 2 hours outdoors on a one off occasion.

I'm not disagreeing with you mate but there's been examples in the last few weeks and months of football having a direct impact on the behaviour of people.

[calumhibee1]

I'm not disagreeing with you mate but there's been examples in the last few weeks and months of football having a direct impact on the behaviour of people.

Absolutely mate.

I just don’t think it’s in any way a legitimate excuse for there not to be way more than the 2k fans that are being quoted. 10k fans all severely hamstrung in terms of the usual way folk get pished at the football in a 50k seater stadium is in no way a danger. Vast majority of fans behave themselves so you’d be looking at a very small amount of bother, proportionately a lot lower than usual. If that’s their logic then it’s simply a ***** excuse that they’ve conjured up for keeping football to all intents and purposes shut.

Another reason though that no test events is a joke up here. There’ll be some evidence around those sort of concerns from the test events in England yet they’re going ahead with bigger crowds.

[WhileTheChief..]

Imagine it was the old firm or Rangers v Hearts in the final.

The thoughts from some on here on having fans in the stadium would be slightly different I think!

Personally don’t see the appeal at all of sitting alone, meters away from anyone wearing a mask.

No one to turn to talk to, no one to celebrate or cheer with if we score and then if we win it, you’re on your Jack Jones!

A small round of applause and some piped in cheering? Sunshine on leith playing in the distance and then the tannoy asking you to leave? Sounds great!

[SHODAN]

Anyone who's moaning and thinks it will be ***** or whatever, feel free not to stick your name in the ballot so people such as myself who really want to go have a better chance. Thanks. :aok:

[calumhibee1]

Imagine it was the old firm or Rangers v Hearts in the final.

The thoughts from some on here on having fans in the stadium would be slightly different I think!

Personally don’t see the appeal at all of sitting alone, meters away from anyone wearing a mask.

No one to turn to talk to, no one to celebrate or cheer with if we score and then if we win it, you’re on your Jack Jones!

A small round of applause and some piped in cheering? Sunshine on leith playing in the distance and then the tannoy asking you to leave? Sounds great!

I honestly don’t think they would be. We’d possibly find it funny and slag them about it but I don’t think many folk would argue that, bias’ aside, they should be at the game.

[bingo70]

Anyone who's moaning and thinks it will be ***** or whatever, feel free not to stick your name in the ballot so people such as myself who really want to go have a better chance. Thanks. :aok:

I think that’s exactly what will happen.

[Andy74]

Anyone who's moaning and thinks it will be ***** or whatever, feel free not to stick your name in the ballot so people such as myself who really want to go have a better chance. Thanks. :aok:

Quite obvious I’d think that this is exactly what everyone who isn’t interested will be doing.

[Keith_M]

How many staff do Hibs have? I think they should all get a ticket and the players in the squad should get a couple each for their families.

Next I'd give them to NHS workers who are ST holders and after that a straightforward ballot of ST members.


That sounds fair enough

[calumhibee1]

Anyone who's moaning and thinks it will be ***** or whatever, feel free not to stick your name in the ballot so people such as myself who really want to go have a better chance. Thanks. :aok:

Itll be a disaster for Hibs to organise if the numbers are as low as suggested.

I’ll be putting my name in, as will my brothers but unless we all get a ticket we won’t be going.

The chances of that are pretty slim but I’m not going to not attempt it because of that.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Hibs find themselves drawing out a ton of people who don’t end up taking up tickets. I’d presume they’ll then re-issue them but they’ll need to give people a very small window to get them bought if they get drawn to account for this.

[Hibernian Verse]

The whole thing smacks of Scottish Government simply not trusting football fans and alcohol. Simple as that.

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Blame the Huns.

[Sir David Gray]

You probably wouldn’t have to go far to find evidence against opening pubs as well in that case and yet we’re opening them indoors, 7 days a week, 12 hours a day or whatever they’ll be open with people in much closer proximity to each other than they would be if 10k were in Hampden for 2 hours outdoors on a one off occasion.

Will some folk end up pished and wandering from their seat? Almost definitely. Will that happen in pubs? Definitely.

Will some end up fighting? Possibly (although I’d doubt that tbh). Will some folk end up fighting in pubs? Definitely.

Yep absolutely.

The behaviour of 10k fans at Hampden is unlikely to be any worse (most probably much better) than the behaviour of thousands of pished huns across the country when they won the league.

I'm still waiting on the much talked about spike in cases happening that their behaviour was predicted to cause.

In my opinion the concern shouldn't be about people sitting in an outdoor stadium that's 75% empty, the main issue will be with house parties in an unregulated environment. I'd have thought it would have been in the interests of everyone to have as many people as possible out of their homes and into a fully controlled environment.

[Andy74]

Itll be a disaster for Hibs to organise if the numbers are as low as suggested.

I’ll be putting my name in, as will my brothers but unless we all get a ticket we won’t be going.

The chances of that are pretty slim but I’m not going to not attempt it because of that.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Hibs find themselves drawing out a ton of people who don’t end up taking up tickets. I’d presume they’ll then re-issue them but they’ll need to give people a very small window to get them bought if they get drawn to account for this.

I don’t think people should apply unless they’d be willing to go themselves if it comes to it.

Not using a ticket or causing some additional work in a short space of time to get it to someone else would be crap behaviour.

[EI255]

and they are spot on tbh.I'd have more respect if they just came out and told everyone their concerns though.

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[Steven79]

Yep absolutely.

The behaviour of 10k fans at Hampden is unlikely to be any worse (most probably much better) than the behaviour of thousands of pished huns across the country when they won the league.

I'm still waiting on the much talked about spike in cases happening that their behaviour was predicted to cause.

In my opinion the concern shouldn't be about people sitting in an outdoor stadium that's 75% empty, the main issue will be with house parties in an unregulated environment. I'd have thought it would have been in the interests of everyone to have as many people as possible out of their homes and into a fully controlled environment.

Far too a sensible opinion.

Makes much more sense to crowd people into houses etc etc to watch the game...

[calumhibee1]

I don’t think people should apply unless they’d be willing to go themselves if it comes to it.

Not using a ticket or causing some additional work in a short space of time to get it to someone else would be crap behaviour.

Crap behaviour from me then. I’ll be applying and I’m sure loads of others will as well.

[Mikey]

I wonder how the allocation of tickets to staff will be done. I know for sure that one of the more senior members of the ticket office staff is a Hearts fan, would that person get one?

[bingo70]

The whole thing smacks of Scottish Government simply not trusting football fans and alcohol. Simple as that.

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So is it a punishment the crowds are going to be so limited?

Is there a correlation between football fans, alcohol and covid to the extent it puts pressure on the NHS to the point they can’t cope? Is that what happened after the events with crowds at Wembley?

By stopping thousands of people going to the game I wonder what they will do instead? Congregate in peoples houses and pubs and drink even more alcohol than they would have done if they were at the game.

This really is absolute madness to not let even 10 thousand people in. There’s no justification for it and I think they’ve lost sight as to why numbers were restricted in the first place.

[calumhibee1]

I wonder how the allocation of tickets to staff will be done. I know for sure that one of the more senior members of the ticket office staff is a Hearts fan, would that person get one?

Nobody should be getting a ticket for being staff. If they’re staff that are required to be there (kitman etc) then they won’t need a ticket.

Every single ticket should be going to fans. No comps for players families either.

[Rumble de Thump]

Yep absolutely.

The behaviour of 10k fans at Hampden is unlikely to be any worse (most probably much better) than the behaviour of thousands of pished huns across the country when they won the league.

I'm still waiting on the much talked about spike in cases happening that their behaviour was predicted to cause.

In my opinion the concern shouldn't be about people sitting in an outdoor stadium that's 75% empty, the main issue will be with house parties in an unregulated environment. I'd have thought it would have been in the interests of everyone to have as many people as possible out of their homes and into a fully controlled environment.

The main concern about having fans at games has been regarding thousands of people traveling to the same place at the same time, particularly on public transport.

[Magpie]

I think that players family will be given priority tickets should they become available. However right or wrong that may be.

[Sir David Gray]

The main concern about having fans at games has been regarding thousands of people traveling to the same place at the same time, particularly on public transport.

Trains will be operating at reduced capacity, as would any supporters' buses. 12k people will be using the same public transport to get to Hampden for the Euros 3 weeks after the final.

It would have been an ideal opportunity to test these things out.

[Brooster]

All in ballot for 20/21 season ticket holders is the only conceivable way in my opinion. I don't see why anyone should get priority over anyone else....including NHS workers.

[Heckys Wheel]

All in ballot for 20/21 season ticket holders is the only conceivable way in my opinion. I don't see why anyone should get priority over anyone else....including NHS workers.

What’s the script with the AST?

Did fans sign up to it at the start of the season?

If so, you’d assume they’d secure a ticket. That’s the whole point of it isn’t?

[calumhibee1]

What’s the script with the AST?

Did fans sign up to it at the start of the season?

If so, you’d assume they’d secure a ticket. That’s the whole point of it isn’t?

People did sign up.

From a selfish point of view I hope they get told to GTF :greengrin but I don’t see how you can tell them they don’t get one. They signed up and committed to buy a ticket for every game not at ER. If there’s tickets available then this match qualifies I’d say.

[BoomtownHibees]

I don’t think people should apply unless they’d be willing to go themselves if it comes to it.

Not using a ticket or causing some additional work in a short space of time to get it to someone else would be crap behaviour.

Can’t agree that it’s “crap behaviour”.

My Mum will 100% have her name in the hat on the chance that her and me or her and my dad both get lucky. However if she is the only one to get a ticket, she wouldn’t go. Is your suggestion that she shouldn’t bother putting her name in?

[Onion]

I think that players family will be given priority tickets should they become available. However right or wrong that may be.

Then the players should donate their tickets to the ballot. These are the most usual times we'll ever experience, so what's gone before counts for nothing. The fans have backed these players for over a year, for next to nothing in return. Time for the players and the club to repay the fans loyalty, starting with getting as many as possible along to the Cup Final.

Winning it would also be a nice gesture :thumbsup:

[SHODAN]

Itll be a disaster for Hibs to organise if the numbers are as low as suggested.

I’ll be putting my name in, as will my brothers but unless we all get a ticket we won’t be going.

The chances of that are pretty slim but I’m not going to not attempt it because of that.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Hibs find themselves drawing out a ton of people who don’t end up taking up tickets. I’d presume they’ll then re-issue them but they’ll need to give people a very small window to get them bought if they get drawn to account for this.

Honestly didn't expect the response I just got to an admittedly incendiary post!

I simply don't believe there are that many people who wouldn't want to go as this thread would have you believe. There will be plenty people who will be desperate to attend whatever the circumstances, even if just by themselves.

Maybe it's just because I'm an introvert and sitting isolated at a game - while still not coming close the actual supporter experience - doesn't put me off!

[Hibbyradge]

What’s the script with the AST?

Did fans sign up to it at the start of the season?

If so, you’d assume they’d secure a ticket. That’s the whole point of it isn’t?

I think the AST applies to league games at our opponents' grounds, not cup games at neutral venues.

[Heckys Wheel]

People did sign up.

From a selfish point of view I hope they get told to GTF :greengrin but I don’t see how you can tell them they don’t get one. They signed up and committed to buy a ticket for every game not at ER. If there’s tickets available then this match qualifies I’d say.

My cousin is adamant he signed up at the start of the season on the understanding AST holders would get to games “if and when”. Just because this is the first opportunity to get to a game, doesn’t invalidate the system that was put in place to reward loyalty.

Hard to argue with really.

Also noticed Jack Ross mentioning Josh Doig’s parents getting a chance to see him play in the flesh for the first time.

I think they’d struggle to get tickets into a ballot TBH.

[Heckys Wheel]

I think the AST applies to league games at our opponents' grounds, not cup games at neutral venues.

Ah right. Maybe not then. 🤷🏼

[Just Alf]

The main concern about having fans at games has been regarding thousands of people traveling to the same place at the same time, particularly on public transport.

Agreed, the Governments both here and in England have said as much in the past.... good shout to move it to Murrayfield :greengrin

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[Andy74]

Can’t agree that it’s “crap behaviour”.

My Mum will 100% have her name in the hat on the chance that her and me or her and my dad both get lucky. However if she is the only one to get a ticket, she wouldn’t go. Is your suggestion that she shouldn’t bother putting her name in?

Yes, that’s my suggestion and would expect Hibs would make this clear when inviting interest.

This will be an extremely limited allocation and I think that each application should be on the basis that you can carry through with it if only you get one.

This is why a lot of people are saying they aren’t that interested as it is highly unlikely you could be there with other people.

If there’s a more complex way of having groups then that would be different but if you are dependent on others also getting drawn then I don’t think making an application is fair.

[southern hibby]

What’s the script with the AST?

Did fans sign up to it at the start of the season?

If so, you’d assume they’d secure a ticket. That’s the whole point of it isn’t?



I would expect the AST holders to be allocated a ticket. If they don’t get one what’s the point of having this system in place?

GGTTH

[WhileTheChief..]

Honestly didn't expect the response I just got to an admittedly incendiary post!

I simply don't believe there are that many people who wouldn't want to go as this thread would have you believe. There will be plenty people who will be desperate to attend whatever the circumstances, even if just by themselves.

Maybe it's just because I'm an introvert and sitting isolated at a game - while still not coming close the actual supporter experience - doesn't put me off!

Why don’t you believe us?!

I 100% won’t be putting my name in any ballot, neither will my dad. Happy to try and increase your chances of getting there!

I’d rather watch it on the telly with him. Trying for tickets to get to Hampden just hasn’t crossed our minds.

[duffers]

All in ballot for 20/21 season ticket holders is the only conceivable way in my opinion. I don't see why anyone should get priority over anyone else....including NHS workers.

Agreed. Or people that have both a 20/21 and 21/22 season ticket. Would give those in that bracket a slightly better chance while increasing the clubs revenue 😆.

I do think it is morally correct that those that apply for a ticket through the ballot (if that’s the way that it is done), should only do so if they plan on attending the game even if that means going on there own. We could end up having 100 empty seats because people have applied, been successful, but spat the dummy because there family / mates never got a ticket. *

*Only exception would be that if a kid or those that need a career get a ticket and needs an adult to accompany them to the game.

[calumhibee1]

Yes, that’s my suggestion and would expect Hibs would make this clear when inviting interest.

This will be an extremely limited allocation and I think that each application should be on the basis that you can carry through with it if only you get one.

This is why a lot of people are saying they aren’t that interested as it is highly unlikely you could be there with other people.

If there’s a more complex way of having groups then that would be different but if you are dependent on others also getting drawn then I don’t think making an application is fair.

It’s perfectly fair imo. It’s up to Hibs to find a different way of doing the ballot - perhaps by inviting group applications - if they don’t want to deal with this scenario. If they make it single ticket ballot entries then they have to be prepared for people applying and not taking up the option.

People are being left in an utterly ***** situation whilst Hibs are in a cup final. Expecting people to just give up on a hope of going with your family because it’ll give someone more admin work is pie in the sky stuff.

[Hibbyradge]

My cousin is adamant he signed up at the start of the season on the understanding AST holders would get to games “if and when”. Just because this is the first opportunity to get to a game, doesn’t invalidate the system that was put in place to reward loyalty.

Hard to argue with really.

Also noticed Jack Ross mentioning Josh Doig’s parents getting a chance to see him play in the flesh for the first time.

I think they’d struggle to get tickets into a ballot TBH.

The players must be given at least 2 tickets for their families.

Staff who want to go should also be offered one.

Using a few dozen tickets to keep your players fully motivated and your staff rewarded is exactly the correct thing for a management team to do.

[hibbyfraelibby]

So during vaccine testing then when there was no guarantee of vaccine approval and therefore as I said no guarantee of a vaccine. Also a hell of a lot less knowledge of their effectiveness (and again, no guarantee they would even be approved to be used so their effectiveness may have been absolutely irrelevant).

In no way comparable to now when there’s 60% of the adult population vaccinated and near enough immune. The test events away back then are of no use now. The landscape has changed far too much. It takes the most ardent of SNP supporters to claim that we’ve been doing testing to allow us to open up now when the testing was done in hugely different circumstances not a kick in the arse off a year ago.

There should have been loads of test events held by now. England have held plenty.

There’s a serious lack of appetite between the SFA and Scot Gov to get football back to any form of normality.

Whatever...you obviously just want to find a reason to moan even when presented with the facts. Your lack of knowledge and understanding allied to what appears to be a political bias that prevents rational appreciation really quite Q'Anon so there is no point of continuing this discourse.

[calumhibee1]

The players must be given at least 2 tickets for their families.

Staff who want to go should also be offered one.

Using a few dozen tickets to keep your players fully motivated and your staff rewarded is exactly the correct thing for a management team to do.

On the other side of the coin, giving 5% or so of the tickets away to folk who haven’t bought season tickets while your season ticket holders can’t get a ticket isn’t the correct thing to do.

[bigwheel]

The players must be given at least 2 tickets for their families.

Staff who want to go should also be offered one.

Using a few dozen tickets to keep your players fully motivated and your staff rewarded is exactly the correct thing for a management team to do.

On this unique occasion I don’t think any staff or players should get tickets...it should go to real fan on a ballot basis. I can support AST holders getting one..the rest should be fair ballot.

The reality unfortunately will likely be most of the tickets will go to sponsors and friends and family......


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[Danderhall Hibs]

All in ballot for 20/21 season ticket holders is the only conceivable way in my opinion. I don't see why anyone should get priority over anyone else....including NHS workers.

Agreed. Not sure why we’d stop at NHS workers - or how we’d determine who the most deserving NHS workers are, not all of them were on th “front line”.

[Andy74]

It’s perfectly fair imo. It’s up to Hibs to find a different way of doing the ballot - perhaps by inviting group applications - if they don’t want to deal with this scenario. If they make it single ticket ballot entries then they have to be prepared for people applying and not taking up the option.

People are being left in an utterly ***** situation whilst Hibs are in a cup final. Expecting people to just give up on a hope of going with your family because it’ll give someone more admin work is pie in the sky stuff.

If they do single entry ballots and they make it clear you should only apply if you can and will go on your own and you still apply anyway and not take it up then that’s clearly crap behaviour.

Up to you but others will be stepping out so people that can genuinely go in those circumstances can attend.

[Hibbyradge]

On the other side of the coin, giving 5% or so of the tickets away to folk who haven’t bought season tickets while your season ticket holders can’t get a ticket isn’t the correct thing to do.

I guess if you want to risk having disappointed, and possibly pissed off, players in your team, you're right.

[calumhibee1]

Whatever...you obviously just want to find a reason to moan even when presented with the facts. Your lack of knowledge and understanding allied to what appears to be a political bias that prevents rational appreciation really quite Q'Anon so there is no point of continuing this discourse.

I voted SNP and have done in every election since I’ve been old enough to vote, so there’s absolutely no political bias.

Your idea that the situation before we even knew if we’d ever get vaccines in our arms was similar enough to now when over 60% of adults are to all intents and purposes immune to Coronavirus (and that’s not including those with antibodies) that the ‘testing’ done not a kick in the arse off a year ago is still relevant is quite simply laughable.

The situation then and now are worlds apart.

[WhileTheChief..]

We can’t do the Thank You NHS thing, say we will do stuff as a thank you to them and then just ignore them now cause fans want tickets. Did we actually mean Thank You or was it a publicity stunt?

Players families, club partners and NHS workers. Saves fans arguing amongst themselves!

[Danderhall Hibs]

I think the AST applies to league games at our opponents' grounds, not cup games at neutral venues.

It applies to all games mate. But obviously in these unprecedented times it’s all but been null and void this season - no ones out of pocket.

In the interest of not creating any issue with the vast majority I expect the club to not give priority. The club make no money from the AST and why bite the hand that feeds you?

[matty_f]

The players must be given at least 2 tickets for their families.

Staff who want to go should also be offered one.

Using a few dozen tickets to keep your players fully motivated and your staff rewarded is exactly the correct thing for a management team to do.
Totally agree.

[Hibbyradge]

Agreed. Not sure why we’d stop at NHS workers - or how we’d determine who the most deserving NHS workers are, not all of them were on th “front line”.

I think it would be fitting given that we've got "Thank you NHS" on the front of our shirts.

It's a real chance to do something to thank them. Unless folk think that lip service is enough.

The truth is that regardless of what the club does, there will be plenty folk moaning. Although I have my opinion, I'm glad I'm not the one who'll be making, and communicating, the final decision.

[calumhibee1]

I guess if you want to risk having disappointed, and possibly pissed off, players in your team, you're right.

There’s not really a right or wrong answer.

On one hand you run the risk of having pissed off players, on the other hand you risk pissing off the lifeblood of the club - the fans.

[matty_f]

It applies to all games mate. But obviously in these unprecedented times it’s all but been null and void this season - no ones out of pocket.

In the interest of not creating any issue with the vast majority I expect the club to not give priority. The club make no money from the AST and why bite the hand that feeds you?

I agree with that, to all intents and purposes there has been no practical away season ticket scheme this year. Nobody has paid a penny for it, so it’s easy to discount it from consideration.

[Hibbyradge]

There’s not really a right or wrong answer.

On one hand you run the risk of having pissed off players, on the other hand you risk pissing off the lifeblood of the club - the fans.

Given it's a Cup final, I know who I definitely don't want to demotivate.

[Andy74]

We can’t do the Thank You NHS thing, say we will do stuff as a thank you to them and then just ignore them now cause fans want tickets. Did we actually mean Thank You or was it a publicity stunt?

Players families, club partners and NHS workers. Saves fans arguing amongst themselves!

That doesn’t make much sense.

The only way we can say thanks is to give them tickets to the most limited ticketed event of probably all time for Hibs?

I think we are more than doing our bit on that front without bringing it into this allocation.

[Danderhall Hibs]

We can’t do the Thank You NHS thing, say we will do stuff as a thank you to them and then just ignore them now cause fans want tickets. Did we actually mean Thank You or was it a publicity stunt?

Players families, club partners and NHS workers. Saves fans arguing amongst themselves!

Not ignoring them - they weren’t given any promise for a cup final ticket.

And yes, some of it was a publicity stunt and some of it was a way to get a sponsor on the shirt.

[calumhibee1]

Given it's a Cup final, I know who I definitely don't want to demotivate.

And on the other hand it’s one game. You run the risk of demotivating a chunk of your fan base from buying season tickets etc going forward.

As I said, there’s not really a right or wrong answer and there’s pros and cons as to whether they get given them or not. I personally think that with the limited number of tickets available that they should go to the most important people, the fans.

[bigwheel]

Totally agree.

I’m not as supportive as you...staff will have likely seen a lot of football live this season. Not sure why they should get any priority over fans. Players family, I can see the argument more. For me though would depend on the allocation. Don’t think they should have priority over fans if tickets are very limited..


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[ClermistonGreen]

Totally agree.
If giving the players 2 tickets each motivates them , then give them the lot to share !
Seen more enthusiasm and motivation in a methodone queue

[bigwheel]

Given it's a Cup final, I know who I definitely don't want to demotivate.

If players need to be motivated to perform in this final, then we are in trouble right away ...and if family not getting a ticket changes their performance level then we are doomed....


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[Hibbyradge]

And on the other hand it’s one game. You run the risk of demotivating a chunk of your fan base from buying season tickets etc going forward.

Seriously?

I'm finding it hard to understand that you'd prefer to risk dashing the hopes of our own players, who may never play in a cup final again, players who we are trying to keep at the club as well as win us a trophy and lucrative European football until Christmas, in case a few fans take the huff.

You're entitled to your view.

[flash]

If giving the players 2 tickets each motivates them , then give them the lot to share !
Seen more enthusiasm and motivation in a methodone queue

That's the spirit.

[calumhibee1]

Seriously?

I'm finding it hard to understand that you'd prefer to risk dashing the hopes of our own players, who may never play in a cup final again, players who we are trying to keep at the club as well as win us a trophy and lucrative European football until Christmas, in case a few fans take the huff.

You're entitled to your view.

Seriously.

As others have said, if the players need motivated to win a cup final by being given a few comps then there’s something seriously wrong.

In your hypothetical scenario we seem to run a real risk of blowing the cup because we didn’t give the players some comps yet in mine it’s downgraded to a few fans taking the huff. In reality neither of them are likely really and both probably carry an equally tiny amount of risk.

[southern hibby]

I think the AST applies to league games at our opponents' grounds, not cup games at neutral venues.


The AST also counts for cup games including neutral venues. I have never had to book a ticket for any cup games by any other means.

GGTTh

[Newry Hibs]

The main concern about having fans at games has been regarding thousands of people traveling to the same place at the same time, particularly on public transport.

Agree. So they should discount anyone from the Edinburgh area to diversify the amount of people coming through. Probably have people from west of Glasgow (quite a way west really) as top priority.

[Gatecrasher]

I think the SFA should be setting aside tickets for key workers and allocating them separately from any fans allocations. Hampden is a big stadium and there's loads of room to fit an extra couple of thousand key workers who are most likely to be fully vaccinated anyway.

[WhileTheChief..]

That doesn’t make much sense.

The only way we can say thanks is to give them tickets to the most limited ticketed event of probably all time for Hibs?

I think we are more than doing our bit on that front without bringing it into this allocation.

I didn’t say that. It’s a real, tangible way of saying thanks though.

I’m not trying to be smart, but what have we actually done for NHS workers? We said we would have special events on match days for them and give out free tickets and stuff but clearly they couldn’t go ahead. Has there been anything other than the strip?

Anyways it’s no big deal, but I think it would be a nice touch.

Usually folk are all for the charity and community side of Hibs. Guess it’s only if you don’t lose out personally!

[PatHead]

Don't see the sense in us all arguing about it. The club will do what they feel is right. There is nothing that we can do about it.

[matty_f]

Don't see the sense in us all arguing about it. The club will do what they feel is right. There is nothing that we can do about it.

:agree:

[SQHib]

Seriously?

I'm finding it hard to understand that you'd prefer to risk dashing the hopes of our own players, who may never play in a cup final again, players who we are trying to keep at the club as well as win us a trophy and lucrative European football until Christmas, in case a few fans take the huff.

You're entitled to your view.

When David Gray stepped up to header the winner in 2016 and rushed to the crowd to celebrate he was hugging the fans but thinking about the joy it brought to him and his family who he was about to make very proud ... he didn't spend all night celebrating with randoms he celebrated with his team mates and family ... in a situation where there are a few hundred ( cause that's what it will be ) tickets available... how do Hibs hiearchy decide who gets one ? Tickets will be going to non season ticket holders ( freinds , family , sponsors ) ... I supect Big Ron might ask for a few .. I would ! We have thousands ( 13 ? ) season ticket holders so essentially pick 1 fan out of every 13 ( or less ? ) .. a no win situation .. In that scenario whilst I would walk over hot coals from here to mount florida to go I want to see them win !! And if Josh Doig is motivated by two tickets and has the game of his life cause his mum and dad who are not season tickets holders are there then bring it on in expense of my ticket - this time last week I was cacking my pants we would lose to D Utd - just take what we get and rejoice - if you get a ticket great if you don't watch it with your loved ones ! Sure we can debate the whys and wherefores till doomsday but ...It's too late for anything else .. ggtth

[Andy74]

Don't see the sense in us all arguing about it. The club will do what they feel is right. There is nothing that we can do about it.

What we can do is behave in the right way once they’ve decided!

[Hibbyradge]

Seriously.

As others have said, if the players need motivated to win a cup final by being given a few comps then there’s something seriously wrong.

In your hypothetical scenario we seem to run a real risk of blowing the cup because we didn’t give the players some comps yet in mine it’s downgraded to a few fans taking the huff. In reality neither of them are likely really and both probably carry an equally tiny amount of risk.

I realise you have a different view.

I think differently. For example, Josh Doig is really just a bairn. He'll be desperate for his parents to see him play in the final. As a manager who will be relying on him to perform at his best, I'll let him sit next to the driver on the team bus if it keeps him happy. Giving him tickets for his parents if he wants them is a no brainer to me.

Football games are often won and lost by tiny margins. I would do everything I could to reduce risks and maximise the team's chances. I can understand people saying it doesn't matter if we disappointe or piss off the staff, but definitely not the players.

[Hibbyradge]

The AST also counts for cup games including neutral venues. I have never had to book a ticket for any cup games by any other means.

GGTTh

Gotcha. I didn't know that. Thanks.

[Hibbyradge]

What we can do is behave in the right way once they’ve decided!

You on the bevvy already? :greengrin

[green.oracle]

The AST also counts for cup games including neutral venues. I have never had to book a ticket for any cup games by any other means.

GGTTh

Serious question. Did anyone buy an AST this season? My understanding is none were sold. A point made by various people on this thread.

So your point above is meaningless.

Fairest way is all in ballot for THIS season's season ticket holders.

I also think the SFA have messed up yet again. Asking for 3000. They would have been as well not bothering. Should have asked for 10000 at least and made it worthwhile.

IMHO.

Hibs for the cup.

:flag::flag:

[bigwheel]

I realise you have a different view.

I think differently. For example, Josh Doig is really just a bairn. He'll be desperate for his parents to see him play in the final. As a manager who will be relying on him to perform at his best, I'll let him sit next to the driver on the team bus if it keeps him happy. Giving him tickets for his parents if he wants them is a no brainer to me.

Football games are often won and lost by tiny margins. I would do everything I could to reduce risks and maximise the team's chances. I can understand people saying it doesn't matter if we disappointe or piss off the staff, but definitely not the players.

Why can’t Josh’s Jambo dad watch the game on the telly and be proud ? And let a season ticket holder who follows the club for many years get to the game ?

I honestly think you are creating an issue that doesn’t exist ..players less Motivated if their friends or family aren’t there

In reality I’m sure the players will get a couple of tickets if they can ..wouldn’t be what I’d do.but suspect the club will go that way

[Stanton Spence]

When David Gray stepped up to header the winner in 2016 and rushed to the crowd to celebrate he was hugging the fans but thinking about the joy it brought to him and his family who he was about to make very proud ... he didn't spend all night celebrating with randoms he celebrated with his team mates and family ... in a situation where there are a few hundred ( cause that's what it will be ) tickets available... how do Hibs hiearchy decide who gets one ? Tickets will be going to non season ticket holders ( freinds , family , sponsors ) ... I supect Big Ron might ask for a few .. I would ! We have thousands ( 13 ? ) season ticket holders so essentially pick 1 fan out of every 13 ( or less ? ) .. a no win situation .. In that scenario whilst I would walk over hot coals from here to mount florida to go I want to see them win !! And if Josh Doig is motivated by two tickets and has the game of his life cause his mum and dad who are not season tickets holders are there then bring it on in expense of my ticket - this time last week I was cacking my pants we would lose to D Utd - just take what we get and rejoice - if you get a ticket great if you don't watch it with your loved ones ! Sure we can debate the whys and wherefores till doomsday but ...It's too late for anything else .. ggtthWell put [emoji1303]

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[Heckys Wheel]

Serious question. Did anyone buy an AST this season? My understanding is none were sold. A point made by various people on this thread.

So your point above is meaningless.

Fairest way is all in ballot for THIS season's season ticket holders.

I also think the SFA have messed up yet again. Asking for 3000. They would have been as well not bothering. Should have asked for 10000 at least and made it worthwhile.

IMHO.

Hibs for the cup.

:flag::flag:

You don’t pay for the AST up front. You sign up to an agreement that the money will be deducted from your bank account when tickets are released.

If you signed up and gave your direct debit details at the start of the season, you are eligible for a ticket. Seems pretty straight forward to me?

[marinello59]

Don't see the sense in us all arguing about it. The club will do what they feel is right. There is nothing that we can do about it.

:agree:
It’s not worth stressing about. Good luck to those who do get lucky in the ballot, the rest of us will hopefully still have a memorable day.

[Danderhall Hibs]

You don’t pay for the AST up front. You sign up to an agreement that the money will be deducted from your bank account when tickets are released.

If you signed up and gave your direct debit details at the start of the season, you are eligible for a ticket. Seems pretty straight forward to me?

Tickets won’t be released in the normal for this game though so not available. T&Cs will back this up in some way or another.

[green.oracle]

You don’t pay for the AST up front. You sign up to an agreement that the money will be deducted from your bank account when tickets are released.

If you signed up and gave your direct debit details at the start of the season, you are eligible for a ticket. Seems pretty straight forward to me?

Maybe pretty straight forward to you?? but for someone who has never had an AST or seen the "rules and regulations" it was far from pretty straight forward.

Serious question again, did anyone sign up then this season and does the agreement include cup-ties?

Even allowing for that, I still think the fairest way is this seasons season ticket holders in the ballot.

Again, IMHO.

Hibs for the cup.

:flag::flag:

[Ringothedog]

I think the AST applies to league games at our opponents' grounds, not cup games at neutral venues.

It applies to every game away from Easter Road

[B.H.F.C]

Tickets won’t be released in the normal for this game though so not available. T&Cs will back this up in some way or another.

I don’t think they do. It’s a straightforward concept. You sign something that says you’ll take a ticket for every domestic game away from ER. If you have x amount of failed payments, they kick you off the scheme. There isn’t anything about the club being able to choose not to give you one because they want to offer the tickets in a different manner as far as I know.

I’m not actually arguing whether it should or shouldn’t be used. But they definitely offered the scheme (and accepted applications for it) despite some comments. And I’m yet to see any T&C that means they get to pick and choose when it’s used.

[marinello59]

Tickets won’t be released in the normal for this game though so not available. T&Cs will back this up in some way or another.

The club will probably use the all in ballot that they have already announced when attendance is restricted at ER due to Covid regulations. Then again they may not. I have no idea, I just know whatever system they use my usual luck means I will miss out. :greengrin

[Heckys Wheel]

Maybe pretty straight forward to you?? but for someone who has never had an AST or seen the "rules and regulations" it was far from pretty straight forward.

Serious question again, did anyone sign up then this season and does the agreement include cup-ties?

Even allowing for that, I still think the fairest way is this seasons season ticket holders in the ballot.

Again, IMHO.

Hibs for the cup.

:flag::flag:

As I said above, my cousin has had an AST since it started.

It was communicated at the start of the season that they’d take sign ups for the season and money’s would only be debited if fans were getting in to games.

As I understand it, if fans were allowed back into games, there was no Cup Final and we were bottom 6 with nothing to play for and had to go to Ross County on a Tuesday night last game of the season, the money would still be debited from their account whether they could/wanted to go. That’s the deal.

I couldn’t care either way and in fact, we’re having a brilliant time winding the AST holder up in our chat but it does seem like if anybody is getting a ticket, it’s the AST’s?

[Killiehibbie]

It applies to every game away from Easter Road

Domestic games only?

[calumhibee1]

Domestic games only?

Domestic would include the cup. Only European games would be exempt.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I don’t think they do. It’s a straightforward concept. You sign something that says you’ll take a ticket for every domestic game away from ER. If you have x amount of failed payments, they kick you off the scheme. There isn’t anything about the club being able to choose not to give you one because they want to offer the tickets in a different manner as far as I know.

I’m not actually arguing whether it should or shouldn’t be used. But they definitely offered the scheme (and accepted applications for it) despite some comments. And I’m yet to see any T&C that means they get to pick and choose when it’s used.

Yeah you might be right - I’d be surprised if they hadn’t weighted it in their favour though.

[Danderhall Hibs]

The club will probably use the all in ballot that they have already announced when attendance is restricted at ER due to Covid regulations. Then again they may not. I have no idea, I just know whatever system they use my usual luck means I will miss out. :greengrin

It’s the fairest way.

I’ll be the same though and miss out - never get picked out the hat for anything Hibs related!

[.Sean.]

What’s the script with the AST?

Did fans sign up to it at the start of the season?

If so, you’d assume they’d secure a ticket. That’s the whole point of it isn’t?
Nope I don’t think that is the point. The clue is in the name.

Its called an away season ticket. Not a neutral venue season ticket.

It’ll be balloted purely for all current season ticket holders and that is how it should be.

[BoomtownHibees]

Nope I don’t think that is the point. The clue is in the name.

Its called an away season ticket. Not a neutral venue season ticket.

It’ll be balloted purely for all current season ticket holders and that is how it should be.

It’s ‘away’ from Easter Road though right? It has been used for games at Hampden in the past

[Killiehibbie]

Domestic would include the cup. Only European games would be exempt.

I just wondered if they'd charge you for a game in some hard to get to European place that's 4 time zones away and on a different continent.

[Moulin Yarns]

Does anyone think that the request for 2,000 or 3,000 fans to be at the final when the guidance says up to 5,000 can be requested allowed for the clubs staff and family members over and above that number?

[Moulin Yarns]

It’s ‘away’ from Easter Road though right? It has been used for games at Hampden in the past

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/our-club/membership/away-season-ticket

That might settle the argument 🤔😉

[B.H.F.C]

Nope I don’t think that is the point. The clue is in the name.

Its called an away season ticket. Not a neutral venue season ticket.

It’ll be balloted purely for all current season ticket holders and that is how it should be.

It has been applied to games at Hampden previously.

[B.H.F.C]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/our-club/membership/away-season-ticket

That might settle the argument 🤔😉

Not really. That’ll relate to 2021/22.

They already accepted applications for this season, last year.

[bigwheel]

Not really. That’ll relate to 2021/22.

They already accepted applications for this season, last year.

I’d be surprised if AST tickets get priority ...it’s not a normal situation, and the overall season has been completely unique ...

[BoomtownHibees]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/our-club/membership/away-season-ticket

That might settle the argument 🤔😉

That’s for next season

[Danderhall Hibs]

I’d be surprised if AST tickets get priority ...it’s not a normal situation, and the overall season has been completely unique ...

Same here. I can see their argument but I think it’ll be written off. It’s not cost anyone any money and from the clubs point of view it’s 300-350 (if that many signed up) they’re disappointing rather than 11000.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I’d be surprised if AST tickets get priority ...it’s not a normal situation, and the overall season has been completely unique ...

I'd be raging if AST were not considered. All the matches against Turriff, Elgin etc, following the team everywhere, then not included for this?

[Danderhall Hibs]

I'd be raging if AST were not considered. All the matches against Turriff, Elgin etc, following the team everywhere, then not included for this?

No offence mate but you’ll be raging if you don’t get a ticket, no matter what criteria the club choose.

And ASTs will be included in a ballot - they’ll just not be guaranteed to “win” the ballot.

[Ronniekirk]

Reasonable numbers are attending the euros arnt they?

I'm certain if hibs didn't make the final no one would bat an eyelid about the attendence

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But we are and all I am saying is our attendance should be the same as it is for the Euro game or games at Hampden


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[B.H.F.C]

I’d be surprised if AST tickets get priority ...it’s not a normal situation, and the overall season has been completely unique ...

I’d be surprised as well. But it was something that was put in place for games away from Easter Road where tickets are limited.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/tickets-hospitality/season-tickets/faqs

Q3 and the answer. If anyone thinks that won't apply for the final then I don't think anything will satisfy them.

[bigwheel]

I'd be raging if AST were not considered. All the matches against Turriff, Elgin etc, following the team everywhere, then not included for this?

Yep can’t understand that B. And just sharing a view ...it’s not a normal situation - so wouldn’t be surprised if AST not recognised ...

[Just Alf]

Does anyone think that the request for 2,000 or 3,000 fans to be at the final when the guidance says up to 5,000 can be requested allowed for the clubs staff and family members over and above that number?

Yeah.... this was the SG view at the end of April.... (reported in the Scotsman on 4th May),

"The Scottish Government has signalled that audiences of up to 400 indoors and 2000 outdoors will be permitted by the end of June under the current timetable for the easing of restrictions.

Event organisers are also able to submit plans to local authorities for events for up to 5000 people, while the Scottish Government will examine any proposals for crowds of more than 5000"

Arguably we're in a better position now so these numbers could be pushed upwards

[HFC93]

Some folk will be raging no matter what Hibs do with the cup final tickets. A section of our support are just permanently raging.

[Brightside]

Some folk will be raging no matter what Hibs do with the cup final tickets. A section of our support are just permanently raging.

Odd that the people making the most noise about it are normally the first ones on here ripping into the team! :greengrin

[660]

I think ASTs would be justifiably raging if they don’t get a ticket for the final.

[Bertie's XI]

Not sure how people can argue with the first small batch of tickets (300) going to AST holders?
When considering some of them have been away season ticket holders from the start, meaning they have been allocated a ticket to every away match no exceptions (be it league cup group stage, mid week league games, all across the country lowlands and Highlands, etc) for the last three years. Also you are permitted to taking & paying for a ticket even if you can't make it which inevitably over a season there will be games you will miss for special occasions such as weddings etc. Therefore AST holders have to accept that there will be some occasions when they have to pay for a game they can not make. In my opinion this would grant them as first in line for tickets when they become available.

[calumhibee1]

Some folk will be raging no matter what Hibs do with the cup final tickets. A section of our support are just permanently raging.

I don’t think many folk if any will have much criticism of Hibs.

I’d suspect a lot of folk will have criticism of everyone else involved if we end up with only 2000 people there.

[Hibernian Verse]

I don’t think many folk if any will have much criticism of Hibs.

I’d suspect a lot of folk will have criticism of everyone else involved if we end up with only 2000 people there.

Hopefully you're right, but some people just can't help themselves and rip into the club wherever possible. What you are definitely right about is that these "arguments" have been caused because of the pitiful amount of supporters being permitted to attend the match in the first place.

[Billy Whizz]

I don’t think many folk if any will have much criticism of Hibs.

I’d suspect a lot of folk will have criticism of everyone else involved if we end up with only 2000 people there.

I’d take the chance, as it’s 2000 more than it was earlier in the week
Just imagine if we’d lost on Saturday, then found if we’d won, some would get to see the cup final in the flesh

[Helensburghhibs]

Did they go ahead with ast this year? I thought they weren't being offered due to the circumstances at the beginning of the season?

[Billy Whizz]

Did they go ahead with ast this year? I thought they weren't being offered due to the circumstances at the beginning of the season?

All the forms were completed and sent in, I’ve got my acknowledgment from the TO
Obviously it didn’t happen as no fans were getting in

[Hibby70]

Andy Blanche's ladder has been to all the away games I've seen on the TV. Surely it gets first dibs.

Seriously though I can't see how anyone could have an argument over ASTs being first in line. (I'm not one). The remainder being a ballot for all remaining season ticket holders.

[Skol]

ASTs should have no extra priority. Everyone who bought an ST for this season should be in the ballot and that would include all ASTs as well.

If there are people who were AST only, they have not contributed to Hibs in the same way as STs and so should not be in the ballot

[Steven79]

ASTs should have no extra priority. Everyone who bought an ST for this season should be in the ballot and that would include all ASTs as well.

If there are people who were AST only, they have not contributed to Hibs in the same way as STs and so should not be in the ballot


I thought you had to be a season ticket holder to be in it?

[Hibby70]

ASTs should have no extra priority. Everyone who bought an ST for this season should be in the ballot and that would include all ASTs as well.

If there are people who were AST only, they have not contributed to Hibs in the same way as STs and so should not be in the ballot

Would be amazed if any AST holders don't have a season ticket. Agree that they should have both to get priority.

[B.H.F.C]

ASTs should have no extra priority. Everyone who bought an ST for this season should be in the ballot and that would include all ASTs as well.

If there are people who were AST only, they have not contributed to Hibs in the same way as STs and so should not be in the ballot

Have to have a home one to sign up to the away scheme.

[southern hibby]

Serious question. Did anyone buy an AST this season? My understanding is none were sold. A point made by various people on this thread.

So your point above is meaningless.

Fairest way is all in ballot for THIS season's season ticket holders.

I also think the SFA have messed up yet again. Asking for 3000. They would have been as well not bothering. Should have asked for 10000 at least and made it worthwhile.

IMHO.

Hibs for the cup.

:flag::flag:


Mate, I signed up for the AST at the start of the season. If Hibs honour this arrangement then in theory ( dependant on numbers ) AST holders will get a ticket. If however they don’t honour it, it’s names in the ballot. I personally hope they do honour it.

GGTTH

[Skol]

So whats the issue, all ASTs will be in the ballot.

They shouldnt get an extra ticket for being an AST and neither should they get first dibs over other ST holders

[green.oracle]

As I said above, my cousin has had an AST since it started.

It was communicated at the start of the season that they’d take sign ups for the season and money’s would only be debited if fans were getting in to games.

As I understand it, if fans were allowed back into games, there was no Cup Final and we were bottom 6 with nothing to play for and had to go to Ross County on a Tuesday night last game of the season, the money would still be debited from their account whether they could/wanted to go. That’s the deal.

I couldn’t care either way and in fact, we’re having a brilliant time winding the AST holder up in our chat but it does seem like if anybody is getting a ticket, it’s the AST’s?

Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

[JXM73]

AST
current season ticket holders
General public

In that order... even if capacity wouldn't be enough tickets, AST give no more money to Hibs than a ST and was leaning towards the get them tae ****... but the rules have been in places for years and shouldn't change now...

[matty_f]

The AST hasn’t added any value to the club this season so i don’t think out should be favoured ahead of season tickets.
There’s probably a strong argument to say folk like Edinburgh Club menders should get a level of priority as well.

[Mikey]

No chance. Players, staff and sponsors will get an allocation of some sort. Edinburgh Club members will get one for every seat they have a season ticket for. The remainder will be put in a ballot for season ticket holders for THIS season. Renewals won't come into it.

The big question is, how many will be left for regular season ticket holders?

I think AST's should be added to this list as they have a pretty good argument for getting preferential treatment.

It may be that there's no ballot at all and these groups snap them all up.

[Ringothedog]

I'd be raging if AST were not considered. All the matches against Turriff, Elgin etc, following the team everywhere, then not included for this?

Totally agree

[Baldy Foghorn]

I think AST's should be added to this list as they have a pretty good argument for getting preferential treatment.

It may be that there's no ballot at all and these groups snap them all up.

Everyone will have their own arguments and agenda. The thing is we signed up for AST and had there been crowds permitted at any game, we would have got a ticket. This can't change now imo

[Billy Whizz]

The AST hasn’t added any value to the club this season so i don’t think out should be favoured ahead of season tickets.
There’s probably a strong argument to say folk like Edinburgh Club menders should get a level of priority as well.

Club withdrew the loyalty scheme, against the wishes of the fans
The AST was put in his place
If we’d kept with the loyalty scheme, there would have been no arguments

[loanheadhibby]

Season ticket holders who work for NHS should get 1st dibs. The club have proudly supported wearing NHS on front of shirt this season.

Seems only fair.

I am not an NHS member of staff.

[BroxburnHibee]

I mean if the admins on here don't get first dibs then whats the point :tee hee:

[oneone73]

I think it should be in alphabetical order.




Guess whose surname begins with A? 😁

[Mikey]

Everyone will have their own arguments and agenda. The thing is we signed up for AST and had there been crowds permitted at any game, we would have got a ticket. This can't change now imo

Yep, I'd say so.

[Kaff]

As I said above, my cousin has had an AST since it started.

It was communicated at the start of the season that they’d take sign ups for the season and money’s would only be debited if fans were getting in to games.

As I understand it, if fans were allowed back into games, there was no Cup Final and we were bottom 6 with nothing to play for and had to go to Ross County on a Tuesday night last game of the season, the money would still be debited from their account whether they could/wanted to go. That’s the deal.

I couldn’t care either way and in fact, we’re having a brilliant time winding the AST holder up in our chat but it does seem like if anybody is getting a ticket, it’s the AST’s?

I'm not going to be put out by any fair way they decide to distribute the tickets but the AST set up imo is a service from the club to the supporters who want to attend every game, as far as I can see there's no material benefit to the club in facilitating these sales, of course the team benefit front their support at the games.
It costs the club while supporters have been saved the inconvenience of chasing tickets for small allocation at some grounds so I'm not sure why they should get preference over a standard ST holder?

Not to created an argument over it but my thoughts over the idea there are 'tiers' among supporters.

[Since90+2]

AST holders won't have priority. All season ticket holders will have an equal chance, and rightfully so.

[LaMotta]

All these arguments about who should get priority prove that allowing such a small amount of fans in is creating more problems than it solves.

It's a Scottish Cup Final - if it can't be all of us, it should be none of us.

[Billy Whizz]

AST holders won't have priority. All season ticket holders will have an equal chance, and rightfully so.

We’ll probably the only big team in the Premiership who doesn’t reward loyalty, if that’s the case

[loanheadhibby]

As an aside, I think this will cause mayhem for the club. If 1500 tickets is the actual amount of tickets, at least 300 will go to players families, directors families and staff families etc .

The club will then be left with 1200 to give to fans. Every Hibs fan will think they deserve a ticket.

Hence the club will be damned if they do and damned if they don’t by supporters.

[LaMotta]

As an aside, I think this will cause mayhem for the club. If 1500 tickets is the actual amount of tickets, at least 300 will go to players families, directors families and staff families etc .

The club will then be left with 1200 to give to fans. Every Hibs fan will think they deserve a ticket.

Hence the club will be damned if they do and damned if they don’t by supporters.

:agree:

[matty_f]

I’ll be honest, on reflection it’s hard to disagree that AST should get a ticket. The scheme was designed to give priority for high demand/low availability games, which is exactly what this is.

[Peevemor]

As an aside, I think this will cause mayhem for the club. If 1500 tickets is the actual amount of tickets, at least 300 will go to players families, directors families and staff families etc .

The club will then be left with 1200 to give to fans. Every Hibs fan will think they deserve a ticket.

Hence the club will be damned if they do and damned if they don’t by supporters.

Only if the supporters are dicks.

[Scouse Hibee]

I'd be raging if AST were not considered. All the matches against Turriff, Elgin etc, following the team everywhere, then not included for this?

They will be considered as you have to be an ER ST holder to have an AST so all in the same ballot.

[loanheadhibby]

Only if the supporters are dicks.

I’m not saying all fans are dicks, but could you imagine the outcry is AST don’t get tickets!

Why stop at AST being the priority tho, why not AST supporters who organise buses, they surely get priority or Supporters with accessibility issues? Surely they deserve special treatment.

The club have been handed a grenade with the pin out.

Give them to NHS season ticket holders and their kids.

[Since90+2]

I’ll be honest, on reflection it’s hard to disagree that AST should get a ticket. The scheme was designed to give priority for high demand/low availability games, which is exactly what this is.

You've got 11,000 season ticket holders who have all paid good money to the club this season and not been able to attend one single game. They should all be rewarded by being given an equal chance of attending.

I'm sure there will be some moaning from the tiny percentage of supporters who are AST however the club will quite correctly look after all the people who paid to purchase a season ticket last summer.

[hibbysam]

All these arguments about who should get priority prove that allowing such a small amount of fans in is creating more problems than it solves.

It's a Scottish Cup Final - if it can't be all of us, it should be none of us.

It can never be all of us, so should the club refuse tickets for every single cup final because we have tens of thousands more supporters than tickets?

[Since90+2]

AST holders signed up in the knowledge that they would only have to pay money if they actually attended a game. All home season ticket holders paid up to £400 in the full knowledge that it was likely they'd be charged but not actually attend any or most of the games.

Very clear difference.

[loanheadhibby]

I'd be raging if AST were not considered. All the matches against Turriff, Elgin etc, following the team everywhere, then not included for this?

But that’s your choice to be an AST. Do the club charge a fee?

Is this more valuable than someone buying hospitality for a season at Easter Road where all the cash goes to Hibs?

[Jones28]

You've got 11,000 season ticket holders who have all paid good money to the club this season and not been able to attend one single game. They should all be rewarded by being given an equal chance of attending.

I'm sure there will be some moaning from the tiny percentage of supporters who are AST however the club will quite correctly look after all the people who paid to purchase a season ticket last summer.

In theory could the tickets not be offered to AST's then the rest put in the big tombola for this seasons season ticket holders?

[LaMotta]

It can never be all of us, so should the club refuse tickets for every single cup final because we have tens of thousands more supporters than tickets?

22,500 more than covers all of us. No Hibs fan who wanted to go in 2016 would have been unable to get a ticket.

[B.H.F.C]

AST holders signed up in the knowledge that they would only have to pay money if they actually attended a game. All home season ticket holders paid up to £400 in the full knowledge that it was likely they'd be charged but not actually attend any or most of the games.

Very clear difference.

I signed up because the club guaranteed me a ticket for every domestic game not at ER. That was the sole reason for me signing up.

I don’t think the club will use it for priority in this instance but there can’t really be any argument that would be them going against the scheme they created and accepted applications for.

[Shrekko]

AST holders signed up in the knowledge that they would only have to pay money if they actually attended a game. All home season ticket holders paid up to £400 in the full knowledge that it was likely they'd be charged but not actually attend any or most of the games.

Very clear difference.

So AST's don't have an obligation to take a ticket for an away game?

If that's the case it definitely weakens the argument.

[Jones28]

The club are ****ed either way, I'd imagine there will be some cursing the idea tickets were offered in first place - as evidenced by this thread

[Jones28]

22,500 more than covers all of us. No Hibs fan who wanted to go in 2016 would have been unable to get a ticket.

:agree: I've never heard anyone say they couldn't get a ticket.

[hibbysam]

22,500 more than covers all of us. No Hibs fan who wanted to go in 2016 would have been unable to get a ticket.

It doesn’t really, if you believe we only have 22500 fans then fair enough, we took well over 30k just a few months previous.

[Billy Whizz]

So AST's don't have an obligation to take a ticket for an away game?

If that's the case it definitely weakens the argument.

You have to buy every ticket, there’s no opt out option

[Kaff]

I’ll be honest, on reflection it’s hard to disagree that AST should get a ticket. The scheme was designed to give priority for high demand/low availability games, which is exactly what this is.

I don't think there's a correct method of distributing the tickets, we have no system in place to cover this scenario.
Every season we enter the Cup and as a ST holder you are as good as guaranteed a ticket for the final, the AST ticket scheme was never designed to guarantee a ticket for this game whereas I'd say the ST pretty much is so why a scheme that costs money to administer should get priority I'm afraid I don't see the logic?
In essence the Edinburgh Club membership put more cash into the club but I'd never prioritise them because they're more well off or willing to spend more per game.
We all bought ST's with an eye on attending the big games so we all deserve the same opportunity in a ballot to get a ticket.
No one can state the AST scheme was set up for this scenario

[Mon Dieu4]

Precisely one of the reasons I'm happy to watch the game in the pub, I won't be raging over whatever way the club decide to allocate tickets or stating a case for why I should get one

[Scouse Hibee]

AST holders signed up in the knowledge that they would only have to pay money if they actually attended a game. All home season ticket holders paid up to £400 in the full knowledge that it was likely they'd be charged but not actually attend any or most of the games.

Very clear difference.

AST have to be home season ticket holders to join the scheme so all in one ballot anyway.

[loanheadhibby]

It can never be all of us, so should the club refuse tickets for every single cup final because we have tens of thousands more supporters than tickets?

No but the can turn this in to a great charity event and get a positive outcome. What better than donating some to NHS season ticket holders/Armed Services season ticket holders/Key Workers who have been at the forefront of this pandemic?

Might be an admin nightmare to be fair.

[B.H.F.C]

So AST's don't have an obligation to take a ticket for an away game?

If that's the case it definitely weakens the argument.

You are obligated. X amount of failed payments, for example, you’re kicked out the scheme.

[Since90+2]

So AST's don't have an obligation to take a ticket for an away game?

If that's the case it definitely weakens the argument.

Yes they do, but if they are being charged they are actually attending a match.

Home season tickets paid knowing full well they will probably not set foot inside ER this season. That's atleast as much committment to the club.

[Since90+2]

AST have to be home season ticket holders to join the scheme so all in one ballot anyway.

I agree but the suggestion from some here seems to be that AST should get priority first which is ridiculous.

[Peevemor]

22,500 more than covers all of us. No Hibs fan who wanted to go in 2016 would have been unable to get a ticket.

That's not true. I don't know about 2016, but for the 2004 LC final against Livi I knew a few folk, including a couple of fairly regular matchgoers, who couldn't get tickets.

[Jones28]

It doesn’t really, if you believe we only have 22500 fans then fair enough, we took well over 30k just a few months previous.

Have you known anyone who couldn't go to the 2016 final?

[Scouse Hibee]

I agree but the suggestion from some here seems to be that AST should get priority first which is ridiculous.

I can see their point but as this is a unique situation I doubt they will get priority.

[hibbysam]

Based on how the last year has went, I reckon the club will be thinking long and hard about whether to give AST holders a ticket automatically or not. Normally I’d be all for it, however considering people have paid £400 for a ST with no games to show for it, I reckon they’d be well within their rights to offer it to everyone from the start. Very difficult to be critical in this instance of anything the club does (apart from offer those who have paid more money a ticket first, everyone should be at the same starting point), and I’ll be delighted for whoever gets to go on the day, just hope it’s a half decent allocation we get and not just a few hundred token gesture.

[Danderhall Hibs]

As an aside, I think this will cause mayhem for the club. If 1500 tickets is the actual amount of tickets, at least 300 will go to players families, directors families and staff families etc .

The club will then be left with 1200 to give to fans. Every Hibs fan will think they deserve a ticket.

Hence the club will be damned if they do and damned if they don’t by supporters.

It’s a nightmare for them - folk finding an angle to suit them all over the place. The “least unfair” way is a straight ballot for all 20/21 season ticket holders.

[hibbysam]

No but the can turn this in to a great charity event and get a positive outcome. What better than donating some to NHS season ticket holders/Armed Services season ticket holders/Key Workers who have been at the forefront of this pandemic?

Might be an admin nightmare to be fair.

Key workers come in all shapes and sizes, plumbers and roofers were key workers, bus drivers, council workers. Half of our STH would be key workers.

[LaMotta]

It doesn’t really, if you believe we only have 22500 fans then fair enough, we took well over 30k just a few months previous.

We have tens of thousands who would consider themselves having an affinity with Hibs but not all are regular supporters. You could fairly easily get a ticket through twitter in the days before the final in 2016. Everyone who really wanted one got one.

[LaMotta]

That's not true. I don't know about 2016, but for the 2004 LC final against Livi I knew a few folk, including a couple of fairly regular matchgoers, who couldn't get tickets.

We had an average attendance in 2003/04 season of 9150. We took way more than 30k to hampden v Livi. You cant seriously be suggesting that regulars couldn't get a ticket mate??!

[gbhibby]

That's not true. I don't know about 2016, but for the 2004 LC final against Livi I knew a few folk, including a couple of fairly regular matchgoers, who couldn't get tickets.
Remember that, ended up buying Hampden Hospitality tickets against Livi.

[04Sauzee]

Greenock Morton are delighted to confirm that we will be able to welcome 500 home supporters to the second leg of our Championship play-off final tie against Airdrie on Friday 21st May: https://t.co/t79sBF6nD3 https://t.co/5IWE1B3SQV

[Shrekko]

You have to buy every ticket, there’s no opt out option

Cheers (and to BHFC) for clarifying.

[Bertie's XI]

You can only be an AST if you already have a home season ticket so that suggests to me the order of priority when tickets become available should be:

-AST (max 300 total) offered tickets

-Ballot of the current season ticket holders for remaining tickets

Therefore, the current season ticket holders still have a chance of a ticket (as max 300 AST) but would be hugely unfair imo to tell people you have taken / bought a ticket for every away game for the last three years but then refuse them a ticket for the final.

Just my take and don't really see this as a controversial subject. Also isn't it a better system to guarantee folk who have committed to Hibs both home and away a ticket and also provide that opportunity to current season ticket holders?

[loanheadhibby]

Key workers come in all shapes and sizes, plumbers and roofers were key workers, bus drivers, council workers. Half of our STH would be key workers.

Hence why it would be an admin nightmare.

We wear Proud to support NHS in our jersey, why not prioritise NHS Frontline season ticket holders or at least give them the chance.,

As I say, poisoned chalice for the club.

[BoomtownHibees]

It’s a nightmare for them - folk finding an angle to suit them all over the place. The “least unfair” way is a straight ballot for all 20/21 season ticket holders.

But that’s only the “least unfair” option probably based on an angle that suits you. Others obviously have their own opinion as well.

I don’t think AST will be given any priority but can also see why AST holders will feel that goes against the whole scheme.

Nothing will please everyone so let’s just wait and go with whatever the club feel is the best option, cos in reality we won’t have a choice

[LaMotta]

It’s a nightmare for them - folk finding an angle to suit them all over the place. The “least unfair” way is a straight ballot for all 20/21 season ticket holders.

:agree:

[bigwheel]

But that’s the “least unfair” option based on and angle that suits you. Others. Obviously have their own opinion as well.

I don’t think AST will be given any priority but can also see why AST holders will feel that goes against the whole scheme.

Nothing will please everyone so let’s just wait and go with whatever the club feel is the best option, cos in reality we won’t have a choice

Personally, I’d prioritise AST holders over players family and hospitality season ticket holders ...but that’s just a personal view to enable regular home and always fans to get to the match ...it’s as near a basic loyalty scheme as we have ...

In reality I suspect family, sponsors and others will get priority over AST ....

[O'Rourke3]

Hibs have less than one week to get hold of and distribute tickets for the final. While I understand the call for more deserving NHS workers we have no way of knowing and verifying their case. Thats a non starter. Turning up at ER with credentials discriminates others who dont live close.

I'm in the only go if you are not setting conditions on getting one. Of the two examples offered the mum might not want to go but one of the others will. The tickets will not have a name on it. Maybe the same with five brothers, who knows.

I've a bit of sympathy with AST holders. If they go that way I'd only include those that were members in the 18/19 season. Those intending to do it this season should not get that priority.

I think friends and family will get in as will staff. There will be people there that don't necessarily have a better case or even interested than most of us, but they will be. Its simpler for the club. By the time sponsors are catered for there's not going to be many left.

I hope I'm one

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[Peevemor]

We had an average attendance in 2003/04 season of 9150. We took way more than 30k to hampden v Livi. You cant seriously be suggesting that regulars couldn't get a ticket mate??!

I'm not sugggesting anything. I'm confirming 100% that I knew guys who couldn't get tickets, including a couple of mates that attended maybe a dozen or so matches per season at ER. One of them was pretty pally with Matty Jack and even he couldn't do anything for him.

IIRC ST holders were given priority but with no limit on the number of tickets which meant there were almost none left for public sale.

[bingo70]

Anyone that is raging or angry about not getting a ticket when there’s so few tickets available to spread across so many people is acting like a spoilt child and needs to get a grip IMO. Sometimes you just can’t get what you want, it’s. I big deal.

Good luck to anyone that gets one, I hope they have a great day.

[660]

So AST's don't have an obligation to take a ticket for an away game?

If that's the case it definitely weakens the argument.

No you have to buy the ticket even if you don’t go.

[Danderhall Hibs]

But that’s only the “least unfair” option probably based on an angle that suits you. Others obviously have their own opinion as well.

I don’t think AST will be given any priority but can also see why AST holders will feel that goes against the whole scheme.

Nothing will please everyone so let’s just wait and go with whatever the club feel is the best option, cos in reality we won’t have a choice

No it’s the least unfair way as in the least number of people are impacted.

[BoomtownHibees]

No it’s the least unfair way as in the least number of people are impacted.

The same number of season ticket holders will get a ticket whether AST gets priority or not

[LaMotta]

I'm not sugggesting anything. I'm confirming 100% that I knew guys who couldn't get tickets, including a couple of mates that attended maybe a dozen or so matches per season at ER. One of them was pretty pally with Matty Jack and even he couldn't do anything for him.

IIRC ST holders were given priority but with no limit on the number of tickets which meant there were almost none left for public sale.

Fair enough but there were more than 5000 empty seats at Hampden that day so if they really couldn't get a ticket for the match then I'm absolutely amazed.

[Danderhall Hibs]

The same number of season ticket holders will get a ticket whether AST gets priority or not

But you’re impacting the odds for 11000 to suit 300 people. That’s more unfair.

[BoomtownHibees]

But your impacting the odds for 11000 to suit 300 people. That’s more unfair.

In your eyes it is. Obviously in others it isn’t

[Brightside]

There will be hospitality tickets i assume?

[Baldy Foghorn]

Anyone that is raging or angry about not getting a ticket when there’s so few tickets available to spread across so many people is acting like a spoilt child and needs to get a grip IMO. Sometimes you just can’t get what you want, it’s. I big deal.

Good luck to anyone that gets one, I hope they have a great day.

Hardly

[Peevemor]

Fair enough but there were more than 5000 empty seats at Hampden that day so if they really couldn't get a ticket for the match then I'm absoulutely amazed.

Not in the Hibs end.

[Danderhall Hibs]

In your eyes it is. Obviously in others it isn’t

No it’s in the numbers mate. It’s how “least unfair” works - and the basis for how we all voted to relegate Hearts and Partick.

[BoomtownHibees]

No it’s in the numbers mate. It’s how “least unfair” works - and the basis for how we all voted to relegate Hearts and Partick.

It depends how you want to define “least unfair”. Or probably more accurately, who defines “least unfair”.

Maybe another poster sees the “least unfair” as getting what they signed up for at the start of the season? Maybe someone else sees the “least unfair” as priority given to those who have spent the most money (Edinburgh club etc)

[660]

No it’s in the numbers mate. It’s how “least unfair” works - and the basis for how we all voted to relegate Hearts and Partick.

How is it unfair for this game but not for literally any other game where ticket availability for hibs fans is limited?

[Callum_62]

Can they not just say no fans allowed and bring peace and tranquility to hibs.net?

Its funny the OP commented

"we can only dream" now it's reality it seems to be causing more angst than we we thought there'd be no fans there

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[calumhibee1]

Anyone that is raging or angry about not getting a ticket when there’s so few tickets available to spread across so many people is acting like a spoilt child and needs to get a grip IMO. Sometimes you just can’t get what you want, it’s. I big deal.

Good luck to anyone that gets one, I hope they have a great day.

:agree:

Imo people are entitled to be raging at the pathetic amount of supporters that will be able to attend as there’s no obvious reason for it. Quite simply, it should be a lot more.

If you don’t get a ticket because you don’t get one in a ballot though then that’s just hard luck.

[Bertie's XI]

From the angle of fairness I would suggest that signing up to an AST to guarantee a ticket to all away matches and then being told we are not using that system anymore would be the height of unfairness. But even if we aren't using fairness as an argument it is pretty basic obligation for Hibs to understand that they run an AST system that has advantage and disadvantages for the people who commit to it. For them to go against this, they would not be holding up their end of the deal. As has been mentioned in previous posts you are obliged to pay for every ticket even if you can't make the game so Hibs should hold up there end of the agreement and rightfully offer AST holders tickets.

[Peevemor]

:agree:

Imo people are entitled to be raging at the pathetic amount of supporters that will be able to attend as there’s no obvious reason for it. Quite simply, it should be a lot more.

If you don’t get a ticket because you don’t get one in a ballot though then that’s just hard luck.

A light hearted question - do you really mean "raging"?

[Danderhall Hibs]

It depends how you want to define “least unfair”. Or probably more accurately, who defines “least unfair”.

Maybe another poster sees the “least unfair” as getting what they signed up for at the start of the season? Maybe someone else sees the “least unfair” as priority given to those who have spent the most money (Edinburgh club etc)

Least unfair means the least impact - there’s no fair solution or one that’ll keep everyone happy so keeping the majority happy is the least unfair.

The rest can always take it to court.

[Danderhall Hibs]

How is it unfair for this game but not for literally any other game where ticket availability for hibs fans is limited?

Just due to the pandemic and the unprecedented times and that.

[loanheadhibby]

:agree:

Imo people are entitled to be raging at the pathetic amount of supporters that will be able to attend as there’s no obvious reason for it. Quite simply, it should be a lot more.

If you don’t get a ticket because you don’t get one in a ballot though then that’s just hard luck.

Totally agree. When the announced tickets, I was expecting at least 6k per team in a 54k stadium. 1500 per team is pathetic. Morton are having 500 in their stadium that’s not got anywhere near the space/facilities at the national stadium

[calumhibee1]

A light hearted question - do you really mean "raging"?

I do.

This is a huge thing for a lot of people. Football means so much to folk and after such a crap year getting to see your team potentially lift the cup would be huge. Being denied that opportunity whilst fans in England are able to get into stadiums in much bigger numbers and international fans will be able to get in in much bigger numbers the month after is an even bigger kick in the teeth. There’s no need to restrict the numbers as much as they are. So yes, when I say folk would have the right to be raging, I really mean that folk would have the right to be raging, not at Hibs but at whoever it is that’s putting such a limit on the numbers.

Hibs will potentially have the vast majority of their season ticket holders miss us lift the cup whilst in England an amount that would have seen us be able to have the majority seeing us lift it will be sitting in smaller stadiums watching meaningless end of season games in some places.

10k at Villa Park watching Villa finish mid table in a meaningless game for them in a 42k seater stadium.

2k in a 52k stadium watching a national cup final.

[Heisenberg]

https://twitter.com/kheredine2018/status/1392468486585294848?s=21

Not going to be many left up for grabs once players families, club staff and sponsors are taken care of.

[bigwheel]

https://twitter.com/kheredine2018/status/1392468486585294848?s=21

Not going to be many left up for grabs once players families, club staff and sponsors are taken care of.

It’s quite ridiculous that a test event in snooker can have a full hall indoors over a number of days and we can’t have 10k in a 50k outdoor arena ....

[flash]

Two per player I guess and one each for all non playing staff. That might leave 600 for the punters.
As there is no loyalty points scheme in place then it's presumably going to be a free for all amongst current season ticket holders.
Only question is do they have time to let you apply or is it easier to ballot everyone then reballot any returns?

[Carheenlea]

It’s a situation where I’m not going to be disappointed to miss out given the chances are so slim of securing one. It will be a thrill to be lucky enough to get one, but won’t be losing any sleep if I didn’t.

What makes these events so special is sharing the experience with friends and family who have seen the highs and lows of supporting Hibs and share the dreams of future successes. To do it on your own with a few hundred others doesn’t really have the same appeal.

In many ways, the best way to share the emotions and experience a special day is perhaps to not actually be at Hampden in the flesh on this particular occasion, but to be surrounded by like minded others, be that in pubs, homes, gardens etc.

[bingo70]

I do.

This is a huge thing for a lot of people. Football means so much to folk and after such a crap year getting to see your team potentially lift the cup would be huge. Being denied that opportunity whilst fans in England are able to get into stadiums in much bigger numbers and international fans will be able to get in in much bigger numbers the month after is an even bigger kick in the teeth. There’s no need to restrict the numbers as much as they are. So yes, when I say folk would have the right to be raging, I really mean that folk would have the right to be raging, not at Hibs but at whoever it is that’s putting such a limit on the numbers.

Hibs will potentially have the vast majority of their season ticket holders miss us lift the cup whilst in England an amount that would have seen us be able to have the majority seeing us lift it will be sitting in smaller stadiums watching meaningless end of season games in some places.

10k at Villa Park watching Villa finish mid table in a meaningless game for them in a 42k seater stadium.

2k in a 52k stadium watching a national cup final.

Great post.

I’m maybe (in fact definitely) being melodramatic here but I really feel let down by the SFA and the government.

I’d resigned myself to not getting to go to the final, I then allowed my hopes to get built up for a short period of time before they announced this ridiculously low amount of people they’re letting in.

If I was offered one now I think I’d tell them to shove it up their arse. To me it feels like we’re begging for scraps and we’re meant to be grateful for whatever they throw out way.

They can GTF in my book.

As I say I know I’m being dramatic but it’s just how I feel, I don’t think Hibs have a chance of keeping people happy here so I just hope whoever gets one has a great day. It’ll not be for me though, I’ll be watching it in my house.

[Mikey]

900 tickets each is laughable considering what's happening elsewhere in the UK with other events.

[Sean1875]

900 tickets each is laughable considering what's happening elsewhere in the UK with other events.
Would be interesting to know what the capacity was for the Brits at the O2 last night.

[Skol]

I would love to be there but realise and accept the chances are very low.

I have in my mind an alternative plan to make the best of this and if I am lucky enough to get a ticket then great. I do have the dilemma, if I got a ticket do I feel maybe my son is more deserving.

All parties involved here (SFA, Government, both clubs) have a tough job on their hands. They will never cater for everyone and people will complain regardless. I think that is petty.

I am happy that some people get there by whatever method is chosen.

My personal view is that players/staff should get an allowance and whatever is left over then all of 20/21 ST holders get the chance to go in a ballot

[SteveHFC]

That really is a pathetic number. Should be a lot more than that.

[calumhibee1]

I would love to be there but realise and accept the chances are very low.

I have in my mind an alternative plan to make the best of this and if I am lucky enough to get a ticket then great. I do have the dilemma, if I got a ticket do I feel maybe my son is more deserving.

All parties involved here (SFA, Government, both clubs) have a tough job on their hands. They will never cater for everyone and people will complain regardless. I think that is petty.

I am happy that some people get there by whatever method is chosen.

My personal view is that players/staff should get an allowance and whatever is left over then all of 20/21 ST holders get the chance to go in a ballot

I wouldn’t be surprised if you can’t transfer your ticket over to your son. I’d imagine there’d be some form of ID potentially required.

[calumhibee1]

Would be interesting to know what the capacity was for the Brits at the O2 last night.

4000. No social distancing, no masks.

[CapitalGreen]

I’m an AST holder, I’d be disgusted if I was prioritised ahead of other season ticket holders for the final.

[Skol]

I wouldn’t be surprised if you can’t transfer your ticket over to your son. I’d imagine there’d be some form of ID potentially required.

In which case thats fair enough and I would go.

[DIXIHIBS]

I think people need to just calm doon a bit. A few days ago nobody was going to the game and most folk accepted that. Now a lucky few might get a ticket and everyone else is bitching about it. Just be happy for those who get to go and the rest of us can watch in the pub/house with family/mates.Hibs are in impossible situation regarding allocation as vast majority of fans will not be going.

[matty_f]

I’m an AST holder, I’d be disgusted if I was prioritised ahead of other season ticket holders for the final.

That’s admirable. I can’t quite make my mind up on it. On the one hand, the technicality of the AST means you get a ticket, but in practical terms an AST has spent as much and been to as many away games as I have this season, so it’s not like there’s a loyalty reward to be made.

[danhibees1875]

Would be interesting to know what the capacity was for the Brits at the O2 last night.

Also be good to know if any away season ticket holders were there. :greengrin

I assume the Brits was planned with more than 2 weeks notice, all tested before (and maybe after too if it's a test event?), and with agreed measures in place regarding sanitising and crowd management systems.

That's not an excuse for why the SC final should never have had fans, it should have been thought about and planned well before now. It's a reason for why the comparative capacity % looks so poor for the final.

[loanheadhibby]

That really is a pathetic number. Should be a lot more than that.

You can guarantee if it was either side of the ugly sisters, there would be huge pressure to increase it from 1500 each

[bingo70]

I think people need to just calm doon a bit. A few days ago nobody was going to the game and most folk accepted that. Now a lucky few might get a ticket and everyone else is bitching about it. Just be happy for those who get to go and the rest of us can watch in the pub/house with family/mates.Hibs are in impossible situation regarding allocation as vast majority of fans will not be going.

This is where it comes back to being supposed to be grateful for whatever scraps they throw at us.

Why?

There’s no reason for such a ***** number and there’s no justification for it.

Will be the same at the start of next season when we’ll have to be grateful they’ve let us have 500 people in for the start of the season.

No reason why we can’t have full houses at the start of next season, the fact we are just accepting such a **** amount for this final makes me think we will just roll over meekly next season too which is what worries me.

[Ringothedog]

I’m an AST holder, I’d be disgusted if I was prioritised ahead of other season ticket holders for the final.

In which case you could forego your ticket. I am going to wait and see what the distribution is before I am disgusted or annoyed. Makes my life a bit easier. BUT if AST are given tickets then I will not complain, totally selfish attitude but true non the less.