Season Tickets 2021/22

[Jamesie]

I suspect the club’s commercial team is already giving thought to marketing the above. Looking at the empty stands we continue to see every week and given the pace of vaccine deployment it seems pretty clear to me that the marketing for season tickets for next term will not be able to guarantee season ticket holders access to all matches.

Some commercial creativity and ingenuity shall be required, I expect - it will be interested to see what is presented. Whilst I suspect a good number of season ticket holders have been willing to write off the outlay for the 2020/21 season to support the club, whether the same numbers would be the same for another term - be it through choice or financial circumstances having changed for the worse - remains to be seen.

[Bishop Hibee]

I’m in a position where I’ll cough up but many won’t be able to afford it. By August fans will be allowed at ER at least.

[Hibby70]

I’m in a position where I’ll cough up

Have you stumbled on the new marketing slogan

[SHODAN]

I'll be able to afford a ST but appreciate if people can't/don't want to.

[Sir David Gray]

I’m in a position where I’ll cough up but many won’t be able to afford it. By August fans will be allowed at ER at least.

I certainly hope so but I wouldn't be putting money on it.

If we get to renewal time in around 2 and a half months' time and we've still to see the inside of a stadium for what will have been a year by then, clubs will have a hard job with the campaign.

I'm sure a number of people will renew but I'd be surprised if it's anything like the numbers we got this season.

[Jamesie]

I certainly hope so but I wouldn't be putting money on it.

If we get to renewal time in around 2 and a half months' time and we've still to see the inside of a stadium for what will have been a year by then, clubs will have a hard job with the campaign.

I'm sure a number of people will renew but I'd be surprised if it's anything like the numbers we got this season.



I’m genuinely not convinced we’ll see sizeable, if any, crowds in central belt stadia by August. I’d love to be proven wrong, but wouldn’t count on it.

[we are hibs]

I wont be renewing until/unless there is a clear date that it will be guarenteed that fans are back in games. I let hibs keep my money for 19/20 and renewed this season knowing there was a chance we wouldnt be allowed into games but im not willing to do it again. If the situation isnt clear by the start of next season i will wait on half season tickets coming out.

[hibee]

I bought three for this season fully expecting to miss some games but not the whole season.

If it turns out I don’t see any games this season which looks likely and have no guarantees for next season then I won’t be renewing for the first time in about 20 years as I just can’t justify it over other expenses.

[Sir David Gray]

I bought three for this season fully expecting to miss some games but not the whole season.

If it turns out I don’t see any games this season which looks likely and have no guarantees for next season then I won’t be renewing for the first time in about 20 years as I just can’t justify it over other expenses.

I'm the same to be honest.

One of the things which might encourage me to renew is the fear of losing my seat that I've had for 10 years.

[Sir David Gray]

I’m genuinely not convinced we’ll see sizeable, if any, crowds in central belt stadia by August. I’d love to be proven wrong, but wouldn’t count on it.

Me neither.

[Scouse Hibee]

I will be renewing ,regardless of whether we are allowed in. I probably won’t get to many games even if we are but will still contribute.

[weecounty hibby]

I'll renew ours for next season. Didn't expect to get to games this year but am hopeful for next season.

[hibeesjoe]

I'm the same to be honest.

One of the things which might encourage me to renew is the fear of losing my seat that I've had for 10 years.Never renewed this season as couldn't justify it. Had a great seat in the west stand for years and it was snapped up the first day it was released. Was gutted but will probably need to do the same again this year if nothing changes.

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[wookie70]

I’m genuinely not convinced we’ll see sizeable, if any, crowds in central belt stadia by August. I’d love to be proven wrong, but wouldn’t count on it.

That is my thoughts too.

I'll definitely buy one for myself but hard to justify the two kids STs too. I bought all three this year but it is a heavy price to pay when the household income has taken a huge hit this year. For groups who go together the club has got us though as if I don't renew them all then I'll lose the seats next to my mates. I'd love to see kids being allowed to hold there seats for a year in recognition that it is usually an adult that is paying for 2, 3 or sometimes more seats and that is a big ask when you can't attend games and a single season ticket allows you to all watch at home. I'd happily pay a reasonable holding fee

[GreenCastle]

They need to rebrand it.

Hibs memberships

Play your part supporting the community team and the benefits this brings to others.

Would be happily if they offered various options for ways to follow the team including reserving a seat whether fans are allowed in or not.

[jeffers]

Will probably renew regardless but won’t be particularly happy paying a premium again just because my seat is central in the west. I get the logic about better seats costing more and appreciate the club couldn’t foresee us being unable to attend in person this season. Charging us the same as the seats further to the sides of the stand for next season would be fair IMO.

[Blaster]

Will probably renew regardless but won’t be particularly happy paying a premium again just because my seat is central in the west. I get the logic about better seats costing more and appreciate the club couldn’t foresee us being unable to attend in person this season. Charging us the same as the seats further to the sides of the stand for next season would be fair IMO.

I think that’s a fair view. I will renew too but understand those who can’t afford to.

Those who can afford to but don’t i completely understand too. Just hope they also understand that it will mean we can’t afford to keep or sign good players.

That’s the choice we have to make.

[Pretty Boy]

I renewed this year but if it looks unlikely that crowds will be back for a large chunk or all of next season then I'd have to think a bit harder about it. I simply don't have the money for non essentials that may not be used.

[Phil MaGlass]

Maybe delay the beginning of the season by a month and let fans in that have been vaccinated. PATG.

[Robbo6-2]

I renewed this year but if it looks unlikely that crowds will be back for a large chunk or all of next season then I'd have to think a bit harder about it. I simply don't have the money for non essentials that may not be used.

What else do you spend your money on?

Cant do anything else

[AugustaHibs]

Maybe delay the beginning of the season by a month and let fans in that have been vaccinated. PATG.

Not right at all to only let folk who have been vaccinated in

[hibee]

I'm the same to be honest.

One of the things which might encourage me to renew is the fear of losing my seat that I've had for 10 years.

That’s why I renewed this season but I won’t be doing it again, we’ve got great seats and I’ve shown loyalty this season so would expect a bit in return from Hibs next season if there’s still no full houses at games.

[Billy Whizz]

That’s why I renewed this season but I won’t be doing it again, we’ve got great seats and I’ve shown loyalty this season so would expect a bit in return from Hibs next season if there’s still no full houses at games.

I get your point 100%, but out of curiosity, what are you expecting from Hibs

[Pretty Boy]

What else do you spend your money on?

Cant do anything else

Essentials.

My income has been cut significantly this year so unfortunately Hibs are reduced to just above the level of gym memberships, Sky Sports and take aways when thinking about what I spend.

[Ronniekirk]

I can afford it but if only a couple of thousand allowed its not the same atmosphere so wouldn’t be that bothered about going


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[Wheat Hound]

Hibs can take my money now. The football is one of the few things I have to look forward to just now. Miss going so much, but having games to watch on TV is so much better than that 5 lkng months of nothing.

[matty_f]

So long as I’ve got the cash for it, I’ll renew. Like it or not, the club is going to be in real difficulty if season ticket numbers fall off a cliff.

The response this season has been fantastic, if we can get close to those numbers again then it’ll probably see us through to the point where fans are allowed in.

[hibee]

I get your point 100%, but out of curiosity, what are you expecting from Hibs

I don’t really know to be honest but I’ve bought three season tickets and got nothing for them while I’ve had a refund for everything else I bought around the same time as my season tickets so can’t help feeling a bit like I’ve thrown money away.

I know I’ve got hibs pass but I would have had that by renewing just one of my kids tickets.

Maybe they could offer a discount on next season for people renewing, I know it’s tough for clubs just now but it’s no different to other businesses, we just don’t have the same loyalty towards other businesses so have demanded refunds from everyone else.

[wookie70]

Essentials.

My income has been cut significantly this year so unfortunately Hibs are reduced to just above the level of gym memberships, Sky Sports and take aways when thinking about what I spend.

I'm the same. My wife's income has been crippled and we are into savings for getting by each month. Hard to justify using savings for a product that I can watch for free on IPTV. In fact I have watched the home games on IPTV quite a few times as it is easier than logging in any of the 3 season tickets I pay for. Many of us renewed last year when I think most would have expected watching some football in person. Next year fans won't take anything for granted and the SG have made it clear that football is right at the bottom of the list of essential industries at least in terms of fans. The club reps will hopefully reach out and see if some ideas and compromises can be found so that the club continue to get the revenue needed and the fans don't shell out for a product they are not really receiving. Not that easy though unless the vaccine is a magic bullet and can be administered quickly, I very much doubt it myself.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Barring unforseen circumstances I will renew for next season. I see it as simply supporting the club, though obviously I hope fans will be back in at some point during next year, even if that's October ish.

I would guess than not going to ER for a chunk of last season and all of this one up to now has saved me a fortune even with the cost of my season ticket. I spend anywhere between 30 and 50 quid every time I go to ER and I would guess many people spend a lot more than that. Kind of offsets the cost of a ST for 21/20 if you look at it that way.

I suppose it depends each individuals circumstances and how they see being a supporter.

Some folk through no fault of their own simply wont be able to afford a season ticket next year. Some folk will have to balance the cost against a drop in income and wont be able to justify it. Some folk Hibs fan or not like to get value for money, they wont pay for a product they cant use even if they can afford it. Some folk will be able to afford it and see it as contributing to the survival of the club they follow games or not.

My guess is in the worst case scenario where football next season cant be guaranteed at all we will sell around 6,000 ST's If it looks like there's a decent chance after August around 7 to 8,000. I can't see us doing better than that though.

[Ozyhibby]

I renewed our two tickets this season and was happy to do so but felt the club was taking the pish when they decided to charge me extra to watch the league cup game given how much I’ve paid for the privilege of not being able to go to games.


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[Jamesie]

They need to rebrand it.

Hibs memberships

Play your part supporting the community team and the benefits this brings to others.

Would be happily if they offered various options for ways to follow the team including reserving a seat whether fans are allowed in or not.

Do wonder if this will ultimately be the catalyst for a different kind of season ticket - maybe a buying a “block” of games will be a future option rather than necessarily buying a ticket for the full term.

[staunchhibby]

If possible will be renewing mines next season

[CMurdoch]

This season is burst for season ticket holders but do we really not expect to be back in the stadium for the new season?
Surely we will all be vaccinated by then.

I certainly think Hibs should be putting the season ticket launch off until summer so that folk can see the progress of the vaccination programme.
There might even be merit in not starting the league season until September.

Those Hibees that can afford to will need to step up again to buy season tickets or the quality of the team will have to be scaled back.
Perhaps the uncertainty is why Newell & Marciano may not have been offered acceptable contract extentions yet (I think they have).
That could just be the start of a brutal scaling down.
Sadly season ticket sale numbers will largely dictate the quality of the team on the pitch.

[Aaron]

I see the club have started to advertise half season tickets for this season. Wonder how many they will sell...........

[CMurdoch]

I see the club have started to advertise half season tickets for this season. Wonder how many they will sell...........

Not a lot

[Chuck Rhoades]

So long as I’ve got the cash for it, I’ll renew. Like it or not, the club is going to be in real difficulty if season ticket numbers fall off a cliff.

The response this season has been fantastic, if we can get close to those numbers again then it’ll probably see us through to the point where fans are allowed in.

Sums it up for me.

[Dazzjw1875]

I would love another season ticket for me and my 10yr old we've had one for last 5 yrs but just won't be able to do likewise next season after a tough year.. just don't know how to tell him though. I suspect alot of families will be the same

[Since90+2]

I'll not be renewing next year unless it's looking more than likely we'll be back at ER for the majority of games. I got a season ticket in the summer aware we wouldn't attend many games but financially covid has been disastrous for my family so I won't do the same again.

Unfortunately there might be a few people in my boat so I'd expect sales to be down quite a bit.

Next year will be a struggle for the club financially. I wouldn't be surprised if we are forced to sell either of our prize assets (Nisbet or Porteous) to cover those loses.

[Sir David Gray]

This season is burst for season ticket holders but do we really not expect to be back in the stadium for the new season?
Surely we will all be vaccinated by then.

I certainly think Hibs should be putting the season ticket launch off until summer so that folk can see the progress of the vaccination programme.
There might even be merit in not starting the league season until September.

Those Hibees that can afford to will need to step up again to buy season tickets or the quality of the team will have to be scaled back.
Perhaps the uncertainty is why Newell & Marciano may not have been offered acceptable contract extentions yet (I think they have).
That could just be the start of a brutal scaling down.
Sadly season ticket sale numbers will largely dictate the quality of the team on the pitch.

I'd be very surprised if everyone's been vaccinated by the beginning of August/September but even if that was the case, the government's unlikely to allow full scale mass gatherings until they're confident about how effective the vaccine is longer term and how much protection it gives people.

Whilst I fully expect some crowds to be able to return at some point during 2021, social distancing measures are likely to still be in place for a very long time to come and mass gatherings will be the last thing to return to normality.

Sadly I don't see full houses attending Easter Road being a thing any time soon.

[GreenCastle]

I'd be very surprised if everyone's been vaccinated by the beginning of August/September but even if that was the case, the government's unlikely to allow full scale mass gatherings until they're confident about how effective the vaccine is longer term and how much protection it gives people.

Whilst I fully expect some crowds to be able to return at some point during 2021, social distancing measures are likely to still be in place for a very long time to come and mass gatherings will be the last thing to return to normality.

Sadly I don't see full houses attending Easter Road being a thing any time soon.

There is no chance everyone will be vaccinated by September 2021. The experts think 2022 at earliest.

Not everyone will want a vaccine - where does that leave them for attending Easter Road ?

The vaccine will be effective - the issue is that like the flu jab it will be required every year - booster to top up.

I would hope by September Easter Road can have some fans surely - even 3000 Hibs fans can make a lot of noise.

If they try sell it about seeing games they won’t get that many tickets sold..if it’s benefits like a club membership they will sell many more.

[Jamesie]

If they try sell it about seeing games they won’t get that many tickets sold..if it’s benefits like a club membership they will sell many more.

Think there is force in that but they will no doubt need to analyse whether they’re likely to sell more “membership” tickets at a lower price point than existing tickets before this is a go-er and will bring in similar sums.

[Sir David Gray]

There is no chance everyone will be vaccinated by September 2021. The experts think 2022 at earliest.

Not everyone will want a vaccine - where does that leave them for attending Easter Road ?

The vaccine will be effective - the issue is that like the flu jab it will be required every year - booster to top up.

I would hope by September Easter Road can have some fans surely - even 3000 Hibs fans can make a lot of noise.

If they try sell it about seeing games they won’t get that many tickets sold..if it’s benefits like a club membership they will sell many more.

When I say "effective" I didn't mean whether it works at all as I'm sure it does but rather how long does it last? Will a vaccination every 12 months be sufficient or will it only last a few months?

Also I'm not sure whether we know yet if the vaccine simply prevents someone becoming ill or if it stops the infection altogether. If it's only the former and a vaccinated person can still become infected then asymptomatic transmission still presents as much of a problem as it does now, at least until a certain percentage has been vaccinated.

I do agree with the rest of your post, I think the club will need to be very careful about how it markets the season ticket campaign for next season. A membership package would be a sensible move I think rather than just selling it like a normal season ticket and just hoping for the best that people can return next season.

A lot of people paid money this year for something that they knew they wouldn't get full usage out of but it now looks very likely that no-one will be attending Easter Road this season and whilst some people will part with their money again next season no matter how it's marketed, I would be astonished if it's anything like 11,000.

[lord bunberry]

The thought of starting next season behind closed doors is depressing. Surely by then enough people will be vaccinated to allow crowds into stadiums. Are we going to be in a position where thousands will have had the vaccine, but not allowed to attend because it would be unfair to those who haven’t had it?

[JohnM1875]

The thought of starting next season behind closed doors is depressing. Surely by then enough people will be vaccinated to allow crowds into stadiums. Are we going to be in a position where thousands will have had the vaccine, but not allowed to attend because it would be unfair to those who haven’t had it?

Hope not!

I'm in the last category to be vaccinated. But just because I won't be vaccinated shouldn't stop those who have been attending.

I'd love to see fans back if it's safe and they're able and willing to attend. Even if it isn't me attending.

[Jones28]

I’m genuinely not convinced we’ll see sizeable, if any, crowds in central belt stadia by August. I’d love to be proven wrong, but wouldn’t count on it.

I don’t see it. I’ve had lots of arguments on here with folk about going to back to stadiums so don’t want to get in to it again, but football and spectator sports in general in Scotland are at the back of the queue. If the vaccine roll out continues at the same rate - which it won’t, it will get quicker - I’ll be waiting until a window i starting in July.

Until then I’m happy to support the club through the PPV option and HSL.

[lord bunberry]

Hope not!

I'm in the last category to be vaccinated. But just because I won't be vaccinated shouldn't stop those who have been attending.

I'd love to see fans back if it's safe and they're able and willing to attend. Even if it isn't me attending.
I’m the same.

[hibee-boys]

I haven’t contributed to HSL but I’ll keep renewing whilst I can afford to do so, irrespective of whether we get into ER next year.

[HibbyAndy]

Il be renewing for 2

I can't not renew but understand people's situations are different to myself

[Jamesie]

Of course what’s on offer on the field might influence ticket uptake too - and on the basis of the two results since I started this thread I can’t see many fans being willing to take a speculative punt, sadly.

Meantime reports now emerging to indicate that the British & Irish Lions tour to South Africa (July / August) is most likely to be cancelled, with some suggestions that Oktoberfest in September also at risk. 2021 not looking like a good year already for live events.

[Ronniekirk]

Of course what’s on offer on the field might influence ticket uptake too - and on the basis of the two results since I started this thread I can’t see many fans being willing to take a speculative punt, sadly.

Meantime reports now emerging to indicate that the British & Irish Lions tour to South Africa (July / August) is most likely to be cancelled, with some suggestions that Oktoberfest in September also at risk. 2021 not looking like a good year already for live events.

Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds cancelled Thier complete tour this year with no new dates set


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[skankomcphee]

Just in response to the OP there’s got to be nae chance that the club will be able to market STs in March based on every fan being in his or her seat come August. Tough times ahead in terms of marketing.

[Keith_M]

Just in response to the OP there’s got to be nae chance that the club will be able to market STs in March based on every fan being in his or her seat come August. Tough times ahead in terms of marketing.


I think it would make sense to delay sales of Season Tickets till we have more clarity on what the situation is going to be in regards to vaccinations and it's effect on the return of fans for next season.

[Onion]

I'll likely renew but it has been tough watching this whole season slide by without a chance of seeing a single match live. I thought we'd have found a way to get some fans back by the end of 2020.

I'll renew but only if guaranteed a complete season at ER - with a rebate for every games missed due to Covid.

[Sir David Gray]

I think it would make sense to delay sales of Season Tickets till we have more clarity on what the situation is going to be in regards to vaccinations and it's effect on the return of fans for next season.

:agree: I think it's becoming increasingly clearer by the day that we're unlikely to be all sitting together at Easter Road in August and clubs are going to have to change their plans for next season's season ticket campaign accordingly.

[SteveHFC]

I think it would make sense to delay sales of Season Tickets till we have more clarity on what the situation is going to be in regards to vaccinations and it's effect on the return of fans for next season.

I would be putting the prices down too.

[matty_f]

I'll renew as I want to keep my seat, but I would hope that Hibs ditch (at least for now) the tiered pricing for the season tickets. Totally accept it for when we're in the stadium, but at home there's less justification for it.

[18Craig75]

I wonder if we could do a sort of membership instead of a traditional season ticket.

Basically acknowledging times are tough for everyone and on the assumption a high number of fans won’t renew again without some light at the end of the runner re attending (and fair enough), we could sell a membership for £200. Then, when fans were guaranteed to return, we’d top up our membership with the outstanding amount of a season ticket, so £200/£250 ish.

So we’re almost trying to get more people paying a bit less on the assumption. that amounts to the same sort of intake as less paying the standard price.

Would also let people keep their seats.

[PaulSmith]

:agree: I think it's becoming increasingly clearer by the day that we're unlikely to be all sitting together at Easter Road in August and clubs are going to have to change their plans for next season's season ticket campaign accordingly.

Curious why you think this, what barriers will stop these kind of events if the vast majority of the population are vaccinated?

I’ve been fairly consistent in that there’s financial challenges never been seen before hitting Scottish football come April/May and if there’s no crowds come next season it’s absolutely finished in it’s current form.

[calumhibee1]

I wonder if we could do a sort of membership instead of a traditional season ticket.

Basically acknowledging times are tough for everyone and on the assumption a high number of fans won’t renew again without some light at the end of the runner re attending (and fair enough), we could sell a membership for £200. Then, when fans were guaranteed to return, we’d top up our membership with the outstanding amount of a season ticket, so £200/£250 ish.

So we’re almost trying to get more people paying a bit less on the assumption. that amounts to the same sort of intake as less paying the standard price.

Would also let people keep their seats.

Sounds a sensible approach. A flat fee initially for all to cover online games like we get just now then if we get back in we pay the remainder before we can access ER. Agree with the post above about tiered system for ST’s not really being fair going forward if we will still be watching games online.

[h1bs4life]

At the moment our group of 5 will all renew , bit disappointed that it looks like we will not get in to Easter Road this season .
Hopefully with the vaccine being rolled out we will get in next season.

[ekhibee]

Curious why you think this, what barriers will stop these kind of events if the vast majority of the population are vaccinated?

Do you mean after the 2nd vaccination? Remember there's a three month gap between the two vaccinations.

[Sir David Gray]

Curious why you think this, what barriers will stop these kind of events if the vast majority of the population are vaccinated?

I think there will be some fans back by then but I just can't see there being unrestricted numbers attending mass gatherings at things like football matches.

I'd say it's unlikely everyone will be fully vaccinated by then and there will likely still need to be monitoring done on how long the vaccine protects us for.

Until we know the answers to that then I can't see how mass gatherings can go back to full normality.

[Allez Hibs]

They need to rebrand it.

Hibs memberships

Play your part supporting the community team and the benefits this brings to others.

Would be happily if they offered various options for ways to follow the team including reserving a seat whether fans are allowed in or not.

Very good idea.

[Jones28]

I would take them up on a Hibs pass offer for £15 with maybe one match for free or all cup ties in too or something like that. Another baby n February means an ST is out of the question but I might just be able to swing this.

[Speedy]

I'd like to see the digital option continue once we're back in the stadium. Good for when you can't physically make the match

[Sir David Gray]

I'd like to see the digital option continue once we're back in the stadium. Good for when you can't physically make the match

I don't see how that will be financially viable for clubs once things do return to normality.

Once there's no longer any restrictions on household gatherings, you could potentially get, for example, 8 people round to watch the one stream whereas each of those 8 people would need to pay for a match ticket once we're back in the stadium.

Obviously not everyone would choose to watch the stream and many would prefer to go back to the games but I can't see how continuing with the streams would be anything other than a financial burden on the clubs.

[marinello59]

I'd like to see the digital option continue once we're back in the stadium. Good for when you can't physically make the match

Once we are back in the stadiums Sky will enforce their exclusive agreement again. It won’t be an option unfortunately.

[wookie70]

Once we are back in the stadiums Sky will enforce their exclusive agreement again. It won’t be an option unfortunately.

I guess they will but I actually think there should be some thought given to it. Perhaps there could be an away season ticket where you can buy only one clubs away games. The money for each game goes to the home club so the big away supported teams would still be ploughing cash in to the smaller clubs on a regular basis. I imagine those that go to lots of away games would still go and I suspect teams would end up with more income rather than less.

[Carheenlea]

Hopefully Sky keep their streaming deals until stadiums are permitted to fill to capacity. With limited crowds it`s some consolation that those who can`t attend can still view at home on their ST.

I don`t think clubs could sell ST`s without guaranteeing fans can see home matches either in the stadium or via a televised feed. Supporters would find it hard to justify an outlay without getting anything in return other than simply donating funds.

[Skol]

I have been a Season ticket holder since seats went in the Terracing c1994. For c8 years before that I was PATG for the majority of home games.

While I could afford to renew, I am not sure if I have the same appetite as I used to have for football. I havent even watched all the games on Hibs Pass and find myself distracted to other things when I do.

If we are not back in grounds I suspect a large number will think long and hard before renewing and Hibs and other clubs will need to work hard. Maybe an option to pay a minimal fee to ensure you retain your seat for a season and a pay per view might be a way of keeping some income flow,

[hibsforeurope]

I have been a Season ticket holder since seats went in the Terracing c1994. For c8 years before that I was PATG for the majority of home games.

While I could afford to renew, I am not sure if I have the same appetite as I used to have for football. I havent even watched all the games on Hibs Pass and find myself distracted to other things when I do.

If we are not back in grounds I suspect a large number will think long and hard before renewing and Hibs and other clubs will need to work hard. Maybe an option to pay a minimal fee to ensure you retain your seat for a season and a pay per view might be a way of keeping some income flow,

Oddly i'm the exact opposite. I've been fortunate that Lockdown has been relatively positive but the 1 think i've missed was going to the Football. I can't wait to get back to Easter Road, Fortunately i'm in a position that i can and will renew our tickets next year too, even if we're not allowed back in straight away.

[Keith_M]

UPDATE: Sorry, I hadn't noticed somebody posted almost exactly the same earlier. Great minds think alike.

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While it's highly unlikely anybody from Hibs will be reading this...


My proposal for next season would be for the club to create a Membership Card that entitles the holder to watch all games on HibsPass (same as this season) but with the explicit agreement of both parties that, if/when the fans are allowed back into the stadium, this is converted into a normal Season Ticket.

The Membership Pass should initially be a fixed price that would be equivalent to watching a certain amount of home games on TV, with the agreement that an additional amount will be paid by the cardholder based on the number of remaining games if/when it is finally converted into a Season Ticket.


For example: You pay an initial amount of £200 (based on sixteen games at £12.50 each). Then, if the return of fans is announced with 10 games still to play, you pay an additional £100 (equivalent to £10 extra per game).*

This would mean that nobody is paying over the odds for only watching the games on TV and people would also be able to reserve a particular seat in the stadium (which a number of people have expressed an interest in).



* The above example would be for a full price Adult Season Ticket and the amount actually charged at each point is only an example, and would obviously be decided by the club.

[TheCabbage]

Wife has lost her job.
I am back on furlough.
Unless it improves quickly and drastically it unfortunately looks like for the first time in 21 years no season ticket for me.

[ekhibee]

Wife has lost her job.
I am back on furlough.
Unless it improves quickly and drastically it unfortunately looks like for the first time in 21 years no season ticket for me.

That's rotten news mate, I'm sure there's a lot of people up and down the country in the same position too. Hope your wife manages to get a job soon.

[Keith_M]

Wife has lost her job.
I am back on furlough.
Unless it improves quickly and drastically it unfortunately looks like for the first time in 21 years no season ticket for me.


Sorry to hear that.

Sadly, there's going to be a lot of people in a similar position.

[ekhibee]

I wonder if we could do a sort of membership instead of a traditional season ticket.

Basically acknowledging times are tough for everyone and on the assumption a high number of fans won’t renew again without some light at the end of the runner re attending (and fair enough), we could sell a membership for £200. Then, when fans were guaranteed to return, we’d top up our membership with the outstanding amount of a season ticket, so £200/£250 ish.

So we’re almost trying to get more people paying a bit less on the assumption. that amounts to the same sort of intake as less paying the standard price.

Would also let people keep their seats.

I think this is a pretty good idea and well worth considering, but whether Hibs, or for that matter any other club, would buy into it, is another thing.

[hibbie63]

like a few others i am able to afford my ticket i will be in my seat (hopefully):thumbsup::thumbsup:

[TheCabbage]

Cheers. House income currently at 55% of where we were this time last year.
Just trying to remind positive!

QUOTE=Keith_M;6412140]Sorry to hear that.

Sadly, there's going to be a lot of people in a similar position.[/QUOTE]

[18Craig75]

UPDATE: Sorry, I hadn't noticed somebody posted almost exactly the same earlier. Great minds think alike.

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While it's highly unlikely anybody from Hibs will be reading this...


My proposal for next season would be for the club to create a Membership Card that entitles the holder to watch all games on HibsPass (same as this season) but with the explicit agreement of both parties that, if/when the fans are allowed back into the stadium, this is converted into a normal Season Ticket.

The Membership Pass should initially be a fixed price that would be equivalent to watching a certain amount of home games on TV, with the agreement that an additional amount will be paid by the cardholder based on the number of remaining games if/when it is finally converted into a Season Ticket.


For example: You pay an initial amount of £200 (based on sixteen games at £12.50 each). Then, if the return of fans is announced with 10 games still to play, you pay an additional £100 (equivalent to £10 extra per game).*

This would mean that nobody is paying over the odds for only watching the games on TV and people would also be able to reserve a particular seat in the stadium (which a number of people have expressed an interest in).



* The above example would be for a full price Adult Season Ticket and the amount actually charged at each point is only an example, and would obviously be decided by the club.

Great minds. We can share the credit.

[Andy74]

UPDATE: Sorry, I hadn't noticed somebody posted almost exactly the same earlier. Great minds think alike.

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While it's highly unlikely anybody from Hibs will be reading this...


My proposal for next season would be for the club to create a Membership Card that entitles the holder to watch all games on HibsPass (same as this season) but with the explicit agreement of both parties that, if/when the fans are allowed back into the stadium, this is converted into a normal Season Ticket.

The Membership Pass should initially be a fixed price that would be equivalent to watching a certain amount of home games on TV, with the agreement that an additional amount will be paid by the cardholder based on the number of remaining games if/when it is finally converted into a Season Ticket.


For example: You pay an initial amount of £200 (based on sixteen games at £12.50 each). Then, if the return of fans is announced with 10 games still to play, you pay an additional £100 (equivalent to £10 extra per game).*

This would mean that nobody is paying over the odds for only watching the games on TV and people would also be able to reserve a particular seat in the stadium (which a number of people have expressed an interest in).



* The above example would be for a full price Adult Season Ticket and the amount actually charged at each point is only an example, and would obviously be decided by the club.

I think we have to sell as many season tickets as we can in the usual way or we are going to be looking at losing a fortune to the extent that we could not keep the squad going as we are.

Converting tickets also looks a bit of a logistical issue.

We will get some drop off, no doubt, but setting out that best case you are halving your income further would be hugely problematic.

[GreenCastle]

Another idea...

Could sell ST as normal but also option to buy a ticket for season after or if you but for 21-22 you get a prize freeze for season after.

Several fans paid higher prices this season with no difference to those who paid lower and there has been no difference in what you get back.

Ok you keep your seat but there could easily be some good seats become available at the end of this season.

I still think a Hibs membership is way forward to generate more funds. There are fans who want to give more ££ but possibly they can’t except though HSL which they may not want to sign up for.

[Sauerkraut]

My heart goes out to those who find that financially, and understandably, they cannot commit to future STs. So this will be of little comfort, and I apologise, but I KNOW there are people out there who would spend MORE money on Hibs if they got a better 'experience'. Most of them are older and many are pensioned. They frankly admit that they are embarrassed to take the Senior discount (as with buspasses) for example. Please don't give me the cliche that 'they can pay full whack if they wish'. It doesn't work like that.

So we should be working now on some form of membership scheme, allied to STs but not compulsory. Allowing us old fertz (and many others) to spend money on matchdays. Preferably seamlessly, with a swipecard.

Create more indoor spaces, or at least heated spaces, with bars, decent catering and entertainment. Live music.....any music beyond the stadium piped stuff. Better screens for TV footy. Seating, even a bench, wow a luxury! I tend to meet mates in packed pubs 1 or 2 hours before KO, and visit the same places after the match. Why not spend our money in the stadium? So fresh beer doesn't keep between home games? Sell bottles of quality real ale and lager, not crappy fizz. Cater formally and casually for veggies. Ditto to attract more women. Create a range of options, not just 'corporate' or 'deep fat horseburger'. Let people choose their level of catering, game by game. Invite away fans to selected bars/areas, police it with a smile and take their cash. Yes, of course there are limitations here, but 500 St Mirren fans are welcome at £4 a pint. No probs with us spending at Livingston or St Johnstone. We seem to be remarkably shy in offering fans, especially our own, the opportunity to spend.

Before it's rant over.., I give generously to HSL because I can, and guys like Jim Adie and Daniel do a brill job in keeping me encouraged and updated. But it IS clunky in places (Franks? Disnae work) and it can feel a little remote, cold and underappreciated compared to other places I give dosh to. The kind and reassuring words I hear from these guys should be echoed and magnified by the Board at Albion Road. Not good enough, really, so what's their beef?

[Scouse Hibee]

Thankfully the ST money for this season remains untouched by the club which was a very sensible decision.

[Stanton Spence]

This season was a push for me and I got my grandbairn her first season ticket but there's no way I can justify doing the same again without the gaurentee of getting in with full attendances. Big ask I know but I reckon next season will be the final nail in a lot of clubs coffins if we can't get fans back in by September

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[CockneyRebel]

Thankfully the ST money for this season remains untouched by the club which was a very sensible decision.


WOW! Is the cost of staff/ground upkeep etc. all covered by tv money and PPV then? If the club have managed this without touching the ST money then I take my hat off to all concerned.

I have had thoughts myself regarding a club membership scheme being offered initially and topped up as the situation (hopefully) changes. Such a scheme, detailed by others in earlier posts in this thread, could maximise potential income on a sliding scale and would surely appeal to most current ST holders.

[Brightside]

Thankfully the ST money for this season remains untouched by the club which was a very sensible decision.

Eh? Is that true. How are we paying the players etc?

[Andy74]

Thankfully the ST money for this season remains untouched by the club which was a very sensible decision.

You’d need to explain that one. It is our only income basically.

[Since90+2]

You’d need to explain that one. It is our only income basically.

No it's not. If it it were our only income our wage bill would be a lot smaller than it currently is.

[Scouse Hibee]

You’d need to explain that one. It is our only income basically.

I have no other explanation other than a club employee told me this week that all the ST income had been ring fenced and remained untouched due to the uncertainty about the season being fulfilled and refunds being enforced.

[Andy74]

No it's not. If it it were our only income our wage bill would be a lot smaller than it currently is.

Okay it is our most significant income, by a margin. I’m sure we have other bits of commercial, TV, merchandise and PPV but this year, our season ticket money is largely what we have to keep us going.

[Andy74]

I have no other explanation other than a club employee told me this week that all the ST income had been ring fenced and remained untouched due to the uncertainty about the season being fulfilled and refunds being enforced.

No chance of that being the case.

[Since90+2]

Okay it is our most significant income, by a margin. I’m sure we have other bits of commercial, TV, merchandise and PPV but this year, our season ticket money is largely what we have to keep us going.

This is correct, additionally prize money from cup competitions and HSL. It wasn't correct to say season tickets are basically our only income.

[Brightside]

I have no other explanation other than a club employee told me this week that all the ST income had been ring fenced and remained untouched due to the uncertainty about the season being fulfilled and refunds being enforced.

Not a chance. Also not a chance of refunds being inforced. They sell the STs promoting the fact that the money will pay for players. There is no chance we have enough income from elsewhere to keep the club running.

[Andy74]

This is correct, additionally prize money from cup competitions and HSL. It wasn't correct to say season tickets are basically our only income.

I don't think these things have much impact to the extent that our wage bill would be 'a lot smaller' than it is.

Season tickets are by far the biggest income stream we have this season.

[Scouse Hibee]

No chance of that being the case.

I believe there is.

[Scouse Hibee]

Not a chance. Also not a chance of refunds being inforced. They sell the STs promoting the fact that the money will pay for players. There is no chance we have enough income from elsewhere to keep the club running.

We’ll see.

[Keith_M]

I think we have to sell as many season tickets as we can in the usual way or we are going to be looking at losing a fortune to the extent that we could not keep the squad going as we are.

Converting tickets also looks a bit of a logistical issue.

We will get some drop off, no doubt, but setting out that best case you are halving your income further would be hugely problematic.


Hi Andy. Yes, these are all reasonable concerns but how I see it is...

If we go for the full on Season Ticket, as per this season, the numbers sold will drop massively. Quite a few posters on here have already said they wouldn't be willing to pay as much a second time with no guarantee of getting to see games in person.

So, with that in mind, it's not really a case of comparing any income from this proposal to the current level of income, as (IMO) we just won't match that a second time.


With regard to converting to a full Season Ticket: The Season Ticket (card) would already be sent out to the 'Member', so we wouldn't have to do that again.

The difficult part would be in people paying the remainder of the money, which is a logistical challenge. However, there are supporters that have vast amounts of experience doing stuff like this that would consider giving their time free of charge, if the need arose, e.g. I'd be happy to do just that.


There's also the option for supporters that are in a comfortable financial position, and willing to do so, to take on an extra option where they pay the full amount of a Season Ticket. This could be added as an option on the Season Ticket purchase page on the web-site. They would (obviously) then be removed from the list of Members required to pay extra when supporters are allowed back in stadiums.


I realise there are lots of other potential issues not yet discussed, but I think this proposal could be used as a starting point and we could work our way round the many 'corner cases' in a reasonable way.

[Andy74]

I believe there is.

So you are telling me that if there are no refunds on games this year we are going to make a significant profit of about £4m because we've managed to get by without spending season ticket money?

If Ron is handing us another very large chunk of money then that's lovely, we haven't heard of that.

There just isn't another way that we can go from a position of losing money in a normal year, to losing a big chunk of our income and also be able to go the whole season not touching our main source of income.

[Since90+2]

I don't think these things have much impact to the extent that our wage bill would be 'a lot smaller' than it is.

Season tickets are by far the biggest income stream we have this season.

Nobody is disputing season tickets are our biggest income.

Do you know how much we get in TV revenue each season combined from the league, Scottish cup and league cup? And prize money from each of those competitions combined? I'd suggest if we didn't have that each year our wage bill would be a lot lower.

[hibee]

Not a chance. Also not a chance of refunds being inforced. They sell the STs promoting the fact that the money will pay for players. There is no chance we have enough income from elsewhere to keep the club running.

I don’t see how they can legally refuse a refund if someone asks for one, they haven’t provided what was sold.

[Brightside]

I don’t see how they can legally refuse a refund if someone asks for one, they haven’t provided what was sold.

We’re you sold a ST to attend the ground? I wasn’t.

[ancient hibee]

Nobody is disputing season tickets are our biggest income.

Do you know how much we get in TV revenue each season combined from the league, Scottish cup and league cup? And prize money from each of those competitions combined? I'd suggest if we didn't have that each year our wage bill would be a lot lower.

If we win the League Cup we’ll get £300,000 prize money.

[Since90+2]

If we win the League Cup we’ll get £300,000 prize money.

And to Hibs that is a huge amount of money. Certainly enough to make an impact on what we can offer in terms of wages.

That almost pays for 2 first team players on £3000 a week for an entire season.

[jeffers]

I have no other explanation other than a club employee told me this week that all the ST income had been ring fenced and remained untouched due to the uncertainty about the season being fulfilled and refunds being enforced.

I heard something similar with regards the season ticket money. Wasn’t sure what to make of it ‘cos I couldn’t understand how we could go through the season without touching it, even taking into consideration the cuts we had made.

[Scouse Hibee]

We’re you sold a ST to attend the ground? I wasn’t.

A bizarre take on it in my opinion. Of course he was as were you.

[B.H.F.C]

We’re you sold a ST to attend the ground? I wasn’t.

Yes, we were. I won’t be looking for any money back but when I bought my season ticket in March/April last year I didn’t anticipate that I wouldn’t be attending in person for over a year.

[son of haggart]

As Ron Gordon has put in place a loan facility would it not be possible for there to be some arrangement where the loan is activated, but only to be used if ST money cannot be accessed -ie it's a nominal debt but will not be needed in the likely event ST money can be used?

Seems a complicated way of doing it but might explain the info people have picked up?

[Andy74]

Nobody is disputing season tickets are our biggest income.

Do you know how much we get in TV revenue each season combined from the league, Scottish cup and league cup? And prize money from each of those competitions combined? I'd suggest if we didn't have that each year our wage bill would be a lot lower.

We make a sensible budget based on a certain level of TV income, cup runs etc.

In any case, what I’m saying is that there’s zero chance we aren’t touching season ticket money. In an ordinary year we lose money or just about break even. That’s having used it all.

I don’t see any way other than someone handing us upwards of £4m that this would be the case.

Of all the unlikely things I’ve heard on here, this is up there.

[Since90+2]

We make a sensible budget based on a certain level of TV income, cup runs etc.

In any case, what I’m saying is that there’s zero chance we aren’t touching season ticket money. In an ordinary year we lose money or just about break even. That’s having used it all.

I don’t see any way other than someone handing us upwards of £4m that this would be the case.

Of all the unlikely things I’ve heard on here, this is up there.

I've no reason to believe the posters are making it up. If two different posters have heard the same thing then I wouldn't instantly dismiss it.

[hibee]

We’re you sold a ST to attend the ground? I wasn’t.

Yes of course I expected to miss a good few games but I was sold three seats in the stand and expected to be able to use them.

[Since90+2]

One thing that Hibs should consider refunding is the difference between Silver/Gold tiers. People have paid different amounts to watch the game in the exact same way ie on the telly.

[Sir David Gray]

Another consideration for me will be whether the club follows through with its intention to increase the cost of my season ticket by around 20% for the second year in a row.

I'd like to think that will be paused.

[danhibees1875]

I'm not sure how they'd calculate a refund given they've provided access to the games live on TV as a substitute.

I can't see refunds being enforced, I'm not sure who would enforce it either.

[Eyrie]

I'm not sure how they'd calculate a refund given they've provided access to the games live on TV as a substitute.

I can't see refunds being enforced, I'm not sure who would enforce it either.

They'd deduct the PPV cost of every home game when calculating any refund, regardless of whether it was watched (same as a season ticket entitles you to attend, but there is no refund if you can't make it).

Difficult to enforce a refund though when we knew at the time of buying that we wouldn't be able to attend all the games and there was a risk that we couldn't attend any. Caveat emptor.

[Keith_M]

They'd deduct the PPV cost of every home game when calculating any refund, regardless of whether it was watched (same as a season ticket entitles you to attend, but there is no refund if you can't make it).....


I bought one Adult and two Youths tickets, so quite a few questions arise from that:


Would I get money back based on my total spend or just on my Adult ticket?

Or, would they work out PPV times three (one for each of us that watched the game) and then calculate the refund based on that?


Also, would the refund be based on all nineteen games or just the ones that were only available on HibsPass (as some people also had paid subscriptions on TV channels so would, in effect, be paying twice).



...Difficult to enforce a refund though when we knew at the time of buying that we wouldn't be able to attend all the games and there was a risk that we couldn't attend any. Caveat emptor.


Exactly

[Billy Whizz]

Anyone know how we got on with our Insurance claim, re last seasons games being cancelled

[HibbyAndy]

Will purchase 2 more for me and the laddie for the coming season but completely understand others that can't

[HH81]

Should be a membership, direct debit monthly payment. Id join then as long as games online.

12 month payments or one off would be good. Money all year round for Hibs.

[ancient hibee]

Should be a membership, direct debit monthly payment. Id join then as long as games online.

12 month payments or one off would be good. Money all year round for Hibs.

The system for buying players means that you need big lumps of money at certain times not even amounts spread over a year.

[Since90+2]

The system for buying players means that you need big lumps of money at certain times not even amounts spread over a year.

Are alot of transfers now not paid in installments? Especially at our level I would have thought it's fairly common.

[ancient hibee]

Are alot of transfers now not paid in installments? Especially at our level I would have thought it's fairly common.
It gives you more bargaining power if you can offer the money there and then.

[Jamesie]

They'd deduct the PPV cost of every home game when calculating any refund, regardless of whether it was watched (same as a season ticket entitles you to attend, but there is no refund if you can't make it).

Difficult to enforce a refund though when we knew at the time of buying that we wouldn't be able to attend all the games and there was a risk that we couldn't attend any. Caveat emptor.

On the basis that the PPV cost has been roughly equivalent to the entry cost for a walk up, am I right in thinking any refund on that calculation would be about £20, given a season ticket effectively affords “free” entry to one game each year?

[danhibees1875]

They'd deduct the PPV cost of every home game when calculating any refund, regardless of whether it was watched (same as a season ticket entitles you to attend, but there is no refund if you can't make it).

Difficult to enforce a refund though when we knew at the time of buying that we wouldn't be able to attend all the games and there was a risk that we couldn't attend any. Caveat emptor.

They could. That would be something that people didn't sign up for though and at a price they'd determined - it would all be very clunky.

Regardless, unless Hibs say that they had adequate insurance and that refunds were a case of money in the fans pocket rather than the insurance company (with no effect on Hibs) I can't see there being too much appetite for the refund. Same as the tail end of 19/20 season.

[Andy74]

I've no reason to believe the posters are making it up. If two different posters have heard the same thing then I wouldn't instantly dismiss it.

I’m happy to dismiss it based on it being absolutely ridiculous to suggest we are operating this year without using any of our season ticket money.

With all respect to a couple of posters on Hibs.net there’s a fair weight of common sense and reality to consider.

The club have told us several times how our season ticket contributions are keeping things going.

Does it sound in any way feasible that we are looking at a £4m profit in the most difficult financial year in our lifetimes? Not really.

[hibbysam]

I’d say it’s a near certainty that there will be no offer of refunds this season. During the ST campaign it was made fairly clear that we had no idea when we would be back and that the season ticket allowed access to our ‘match day package’ ie Hibspass + HibsTv. We offered refunds last season as people genuinely lost out on games, they were cancelled. That isn’t the case this season.

[wookie70]

I bought me and my two kids ST this season and for the last 10 or so. I did so knowing I was unlikely to see a game in person because of a covid and having already missed a few games the season before due to the virus. Our household income is down 10k or so and I will have to think very hard about next season, particularly for the kids tickets. I'd love the club to recognise that families, particularly those outside the family area have forked out for 2 or more tickets to likely watch games on a single TV. I'd be happy to buy my season ticket for next year in full and an option to pay a refundable holding fee to keep the kids seats assuming we can't attend ER because of Covid

[Jamesie]

I’d put any launch plans on ice for a few weeks after tonight.

[Casey1875]

It is going to be a very hard sell now. No feel good factor of reaching a final, on a very poor run with livingston looking very likely to overtake us in the coming weeks and generally very poor football.

I wouldn't fancy working on our marketing team and I think that this will be the end of Ross. I cannot say that I am very disappointed with that. His signing policy of a million average midfielders doesn't work.

[we are hibs]

I want to renew, i want to enioy it and i want to be back in a excited stadium full of hibs fans next season watching us play football thats easy on the eye and exciting to watch with players full of commitment and a hunger to entertain and win games. But all of that feels miles away. I dont feel any kind of connection to the club right now. I dont enjoy watching this hibs team but im forcing myself to watch us to justify the £400 that ive wasted. I wont be doing it again, especially when we have no idea when we can actually go to Easter Road again (not hibs fault)

[hibbysam]

Renewed when we had about 5000 under Fenlon, Calderwood, Butcher and Stubbs, and will 100% renew again next season.

[my left peg]

Renewed when we had about 5000 under Fenlon, Calderwood, Butcher and Stubbs, and will 100% renew again next season.Yes I will as well,but cant blame people for not renewing,a cup win would have helped,but the pandemic coupled with the style of football we are watching will turn thousands off.

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[green day]

Yes I will as well,but cant blame people for not renewing,a cup win would have helped,but the pandemic coupled with the style of football we are watching will turn thousands off.

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And Ron knows that, which is why Ross will be removed (and hopefully our DoF too)

[hibbysam]

Yes I will as well,but cant blame people for not renewing,a cup win would have helped,but the pandemic coupled with the style of football we are watching will turn thousands off.

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If they can’t afford it then fair enough, no chance I’d turn my back through choice though. Each to their own though.

[Sir David Gray]

I tried to type this out on the other thread but by the time I'd hit send it had been deleted so I'll try again.

The season ticket campaign is still around 6-8 weeks away but if we have many more results like that, coupled with the continued shutout of fans which appears to have no end in sight, I don't see season ticket sales doing too well.

Good luck to the marketing team, they're going to need it.

[Bobo]

Can't charge different category prices for the same Hibs TV set up as they have done for this season when there is no guarantee of fans being in attendance and the standard of entertainment has in the main been dross.

A set fee membership type of initial payment with an additional top up payment for specific season ticket categories if and when supporters are eventually allowed to return would be a better option.

The way this season has been I can see a sizeable drop off in interest as the football is horrible to watch with very little entertainment with 4 league wins at home all season and not one of them convincing. Hasn't been worth it in my opinion

[Criswell]

After Today's performance there is no way I'm renewing! How many times have I said that throughout the years?.... I'll renew:
I always will. Keep the faith!

[Coco Bryce]

I won't be renewing mine or the laddies either. Shocking to watch and my laddie won't even watch us anymore.

[MWHIBBIES]

Will renew forever. I've watched far ****ing worse than this. A rough patch is always nice to weed out the fairweather fans

[Pretty Boy]

Renewed when we had about 5000 under Fenlon, Calderwood, Butcher and Stubbs, and will 100% renew again next season.

The thing is though ST campaigns aren't aimed at the likes of you or I. The renew regardless types. There's a solid core of about 7 or 8K who will always be there regardless of what is happening on the park (and we would do well to remember that this season isn't bad when you consider where we have been fairly recently) or what is contained in the campaign.

The timing, the tone and the environment has to be right to capture that other 4-6K who can go as quickly as they came. We have ridden the crest of the wave of the SC win for 4 seasons now. With a tougher financial climate, a creeping discontent and people breaking the habit of attending football it's going to be a challenge to hold on to them and keep numbers stable.

Plenty people on here will be able to say they will renew 100%. That's only part of the story though. We can mock those who say they won't be renewing but their money counts the same as mine or yours. It's absolutely vital we get back on track ASAP to keep as many onside as possible.

[BILLYHIBS]

Will renew forever. I've watched far ****ing worse than this. A rough patch is always nice to weed out the fairweather fans
:top marks

[Zambernardi1875]

Will renew forever. I've watched far ****ing worse than this. A rough patch is always nice to weed out the fairweather fans

Buy 3 tickets and give 2 away to those less fortunate 👍 out of interest will you still renew if fans aren’t allowed back still ?

[B.H.F.C]

As someone who will renew (because it’s what I do) nights like tonight kill us.

Season tickets were/are always going to be down next season. Nights like tonight will make the decision easier for those undecided.

[hibbysam]

The thing is though ST campaigns aren't aimed at the likes of you or I. The renew regardless types. There's a solid core of about 7 or 8K who will always be there regardless of what is happening on the park (and we would do well to remember that this season isn't bad when you consider where we have been fairly recently) or what is contained in the campaign.

The timing, the tone and the environment has to be right to capture that other 4-6K who can go as quickly as they came. We have ridden the crest of the wave of the SC win for 4 seasons now. With a tougher financial climate, a creeping discontent and people breaking the habit of attending football it's going to be a challenge to hold on to them and keep numbers stable.

Plenty people on here will be able to say they will renew 100%. That's only part of the story though. We can mock those who say they won't be renewing but their money counts the same as mine or yours. It's absolutely vital we get back on track ASAP to keep as many onside as possible.

Whilst I get what you are saying, I can’t say I’ve a lot of time for folk who turn their back when the going gets tough. The same ones who cried about loyalty points because they should be in the same bracket as those who go week in week out, year in year out. If losing semi finals and being inconsistent means you won’t buy a season ticket, then I’ve no idea why they would’ve bought one in the first place. Yes we all want Hibs to do better, but the reality is results like today’s will come along every year or two, all part of the rollercoaster for me. I’m well on board for Ron’s plans for the club, Rome wasn’t built in a day.

[Hibby70]

Think a lot of people are going to choose to keep the money for themselves than go into the pockets of players/management that don't deserve the salaries they are on.

I'll probably renew but can understand why folk won't be in this climate.

[Stuart93]

Usually haven’t came close to questioning whether or not I’ll renew my ST but think it’s going to be a tough one this year. Personal circumstances have change plus I’m really really not enjoying watching hibs under JR. We have nothing about us.

Or it’s maybe the realisation that maybe we aren’t as big a club as we think we are.

[Glory Lurker]

The core of 7-8K is nowhere near enough in the current situation. There has to be a reason for folk less deluded than me to renew. Even if it's only on the TV, being worth actually watching would probably help.

[RossScott1991]

Only going to renew if we are back in stadiums. The £400 + paid this year to watch some of the performances / David Tanner + Hibs tv where it’s a minute behind the stream that I actually see a goal on soccer Saturday in our game before it happens has put me right off

The coverage is shocking and it’s no way worth £400

[green day]

Hibs problem is that, although we get a good number of STs, we will never be competing with Rangers or Celtic for players and that (usually) mean they will be 20/30+ points better off in a season.

So we operate in a broadly similar market to other teams in the league. Yes, we pay more than a St Johnstone or Livingston, but the differential doesn't give us enough of an edge in player quality.

So, we have a big relative support in our division, but basically the best we can hope for is occasional euro football and less frequently a cup.

It's not much of a marketing campaign, but it's the truth of being a Hibs (or Aberdeen) fan right now.

[AL-Qaholik]

Won’t be renewing unless guarantees of physical games are included.

[RossScott1991]

Only going to renew if we are back in stadiums. The £400 + paid this year to watch some of the performances / David Tanner + Hibs tv where it’s a minute behind the stream that I actually see a goal on soccer Saturday in our game before it happens has put me right off

The coverage is shocking and it’s no way worth £400

[jeffers]

Hibs problem is that, although we get a good number of STs, we will never be competing with Rangers or Celtic for players and that (usually) mean they will be 20/30+ points better off in a season.

So we operate in a broadly similar market to other teams in the league. Yes, we pay more than a St Johnstone or Livingston, but the differential doesn't give us enough of an edge in player quality.

So, we have a big relative support in our division, but basically the best we can hope for is occasional euro football and less frequently a cup.

It's not much of a marketing campaign, but it's the truth of being a Hibs (or Aberdeen) fan right now.

All the more reason for the football to be entertaining and exciting, something we don’t see enough of under Ross. Those few months under Lennon when ER had big crowds, the football was great to watch I honestly wasn’t that bothered if we finished 2nd or 4th. I just loved going to the games because it was thoroughly enjoyable.

[green day]

All the more reason for the football to be entertaining and exciting, something we don’t see enough of under Ross. Those few months under Lennon when ER had big crowds, the football was great to watch I honestly wasn’t that bothered if we finished 2nd or 4th. I just loved going to the games because it was thoroughly enjoyable.

Yes, watching us play just now is sucking the enjoyment out of football for me.

I started learning electric guitar during the first lockdown and it has given me a lot more enjoyment than watching the crap fare we have served up this season.

Days like today will have a lot of people question their ST spend - especially when for many their income has been hit.

[bingo70]

I’ve been a season ticket holder for years, I’ve got my boy his season ticket for probably about the last 3 or 4 years (he’s only 7).

I’ve tried to justify spending loads in Hibs since the start of the lockdown by buying utter ***** in all honesty most months. I’m really doubting whether I’ll renew next season or not though, it’s not all down to Ross, I’ve started my own business and it’s got off to a slower start than I would have liked. I still could get one for me snd my boy but I’m just really struggling to justify it. I used to always look at old boys in the pub and other places and wonder how they fell out of love with the club but I really fear I’m heading that direction myself.

I can’t stand this Hibs team, I think the manager is ***** and the team is garbage, even if we are doing alright in the league. if the plan is just to scrape third or fourth (like Aberdeen have) while sacrificing any attempt to play entertaining football maybe it’s just my time to step aside like these old boys in the pub have done in the last as that’s just not for me.

If season ticket went in sale tomorrow I’d find it the easiest thing in the world not to renew, I hope I snap out of that attitude before next season starts.

[broondog]

I’ll almost cerftianky Renew. No matter what although I feel I shouldn’t of that’s what we are going to witness, also difficult to justify unless fans are back in stadiums

[murray26]

We will always have a hardcore of about 8000 no matter what the big problem is keeping and or attracting new ones.. Ron has a big problem on his hands soon.. I hope he has the answers

[Onion]

Happily renewed for this season to support the club and in expectation of seeing some football at ER. Also thought Jack Ross deserved support, as well as the new owner.

All that has gone.

It will be many months before any of us will be allowed back in to watch live football but frankly, some of the garbage I've seen on TV from this Hibs team is not worth the effort. The team is a rabble who look as if they get together once a week for a kick about.

[skankomcphee]

Any chance the club will roll over the season tickets to next year?

[hibbysam]

Any chance the club will roll over the season tickets to next year?

No chance, can’t afford it.

[Sir David Gray]

Any chance the club will roll over the season tickets to next year?

None at all I would have thought.

[Golden Bear]

Not so much the results but the overall drudgery of the football makes it very unlikely that I'll renew. But there again I've said that before .

[The Spaceman]

Only going to renew if we are back in stadiums. The £400 + paid this year to watch some of the performances / David Tanner + Hibs tv where it’s a minute behind the stream that I actually see a goal on soccer Saturday in our game before it happens has put me right off

The coverage is shocking and it’s no way worth £400

It’s not meant to be worth £400. The club is trying their hardest to work round a really unpredictable set of circumstances. If you expected £400 worth of studio product, then maybe you should find a different hobby.

[The Spaceman]

Any chance the club will roll over the season tickets to next year?

Absolutely none. Our player salaries and utility bills don’t just get stretched out over two seasons as well.

[CentreLine]

I’ve been a season ticket holder for years, I’ve got my boy his season ticket for probably about the last 3 or 4 years (he’s only 7).

I’ve tried to justify spending loads in Hibs since the start of the lockdown by buying utter ***** in all honesty most months. I’m really doubting whether I’ll renew next season or not though, it’s not all down to Ross, I’ve started my own business and it’s got off to a slower start than I would have liked. I still could get one for me snd my boy but I’m just really struggling to justify it. I used to always look at old boys in the pub and other places and wonder how they fell out of love with the club but I really fear I’m heading that direction myself.

I can’t stand this Hibs team, I think the manager is ***** and the team is garbage, even if we are doing alright in the league. if the plan is just to scrape third or fourth (like Aberdeen have) while sacrificing any attempt to play entertaining football maybe it’s just my time to step aside like these old boys in the pub have done in the last as that’s just not for me.

If season ticket went in sale tomorrow I’d find it the easiest thing in the world not to renew, I hope I snap out of that attitude before next season starts.

Yes but you know that your loyalty to the club will kick in, alongside your not wanting to lose that view you’ve enjoyed of the park. It’s in your blood, you’ll renew like the rest of us 🤗

[Juice-Terry]

100% renewing. GGTTH!

[bigwheel]

Of course I’m renewing . I am fortunate I can afford to and I’m a Hibs fan through thick and thin - why wouldn’t I ?

[Sean1875]

I'll inevitably renew out of blind loyalty but as things stand I genuinely dont fancy it. Its bad enough sitting in the house watching the boring pish football we've been playing recently, will be even worse on a baltic Tuesday night watching us leathering the ball up to Hamilton Accies centre backs for 90 minutes.

[Keith_M]

I'll inevitably renew out of blind loyalty but as things stand I genuinely dont fancy it. Its bad enough sitting in the house watching the boring pish football we've been playing recently, will be even worse on a baltic Tuesday night watching us leathering the ball up to Hamilton Accies centre backs for 90 minutes.


Oct -2: Hibs 3, Hamilton 2

Dec-12: Hamilton 0, Hibs 4



Should have chose a better example

:wink:

[happiehibbie]

Like others I'm fortunate to be able to afford the season ticket I look at it as a donation!

This year the Football on show has been poor, along with the production of the MATCH program . The commentary for me could be better you can tell its based for radio more than TV.

I think due to the pandemic Hibs need to look at the product being supplied as we're paying top money.

Oh the joys of being a Hibs fan .

[Sean1875]

Oct -2: Hibs 3, Hamilton 2

Dec-12: Hamilton 0, Hibs 4



Should have chose a better example

:wink:

*****, amateur stuff on my part :doh: :greengrin

[The Harp Awakes]

We will always have a hardcore of about 8000 no matter what the big problem is keeping and or attracting new ones.. Ron has a big problem on his hands soon.. I hope he has the answers

I've been one of those 8000 for 42 consecutive years. I'll likely renew again but my enthusiasm for the club is definitely waning.

The calibre of our current manager and group of players is certainly nowhere near as bad as some of the dross I've seen during that time. However, presently the club is afflicted by a lack of leadership both on and off the park. Perhaps this is partly due to the vacuum caused by not replacing our CEO, but one thing's for sure, the players are lacking motivation, belief and inspiration. As a result, the club and team appear to have reverted to having a soft core again, which we looked to be getting rid of during the Stubbs and Lennon eras.

[killie-hibby]

I will fork out again unless someone gives me a pill that will eradicate Hibs from my brain. Fortunately as an OAP I pay 50% less than younger supporters. I am very unhappy with the players performances at both semi finals but that is Hibs. They usually disappoint. Since 1956 when I became a Hibs supporter,we have won a major trophy on an average of once in every 16 years. When ER opens up for supporters I will as usual do a 130 mile round trip for most home games. At my age and the recent poor standard of football it will be a struggle to get motivated. Next season will be my last unless there is a significant change in attitude and performance with players. By the way,when the Glasgow Herald was a decent newspaper their editor Arnold Kemp,a great Hibby said of Hibs " we go in hope rather than expectation".

[hibbysam]

I've been one of those 8000 for 42 consecutive years. I'll likely renew again but my enthusiasm for the club is definitely waning.

The calibre of our current manager and group of players is certainly nowhere near as bad as some of the dross I've seen during that time. However, presently the club is afflicted by a lack of leadership both on and off the park. Perhaps this is partly due to the vacuum caused by not replacing our CEO, but one thing's for sure, the players are lacking motivation, belief and inspiration. As a result, the club and team appear to have reverted to having a soft core again, which we looked to be getting rid of during the Stubbs and Lennon eras.

I’d like the CEO job filled ASAP, however can hardly say we have a lack of leadership. RG has led us outstandingly well through the most difficult period of our 145 year history. A few bad results on the park doesn’t change that. Could it be better? Absolutely. But we’re far from a rudderless ship.

[Jamesie]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55871217

A heavily caveated “could be” with regard to the possibility of crowds returning in September.

[bingo70]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55871217

A heavily caveated “could be” with regard to the possibility of crowds returning in September.

I’m really pretty devastated that we’re talking about September before some people are possibly back.

Went for a walk round Easter road the other day and realised how much I miss it. I’m quite lucky in that mental health problems aren’t something that’s really ever effected me but I almost found myself getting a bit emotional about it.

I’d really thought once the vaccine started to get rolled out, the most vulnerable people would stop dying and things would start to return to normal again. Maybe I was being naive but I thought we’d definitely be back by the summer, to hear we’ve probably got the best part of another year of this is really depressing.

[MWHIBBIES]

Buy 3 tickets and give 2 away to those less fortunate �� out of interest will you still renew if fans aren’t allowed back still ?

Yes, without doubt. Hibs have been around for 140 years. I'm not going to be part of the fanbase that finished them. Club needs me and all those who can help.

[Sir David Gray]

I’m really pretty devastated that we’re talking about September before some people are possibly back.

Went for a walk round Easter road the other day and realised how much I miss it. I’m quite lucky in that mental health problems aren’t something that’s really ever effected me but I almost found myself getting a bit emotional about it.

I’d really thought once the vaccine started to get rolled out, the most vulnerable people would stop dying and things would start to return to normal again. Maybe I was being naive but I thought we’d definitely be back by the summer, to hear we’ve probably got the best part of another year of this is really depressing.

And September's probably just when some fans will return. I think it will be sometime during 2022 before we're back to full capacity.

[G15 Hibs]

And September's probably just when some fans will return. I think it will be sometime during 2022 before we're back to full capacity.

Aye. Have heard 'could' so often over the last 10 months or so to realise it tends to mean 'won't'.

[CMurdoch]

I’m really pretty devastated that we’re talking about September before some people are possibly back.

Went for a walk round Easter road the other day and realised how much I miss it. I’m quite lucky in that mental health problems aren’t something that’s really ever effected me but I almost found myself getting a bit emotional about it.

I’d really thought once the vaccine started to get rolled out, the most vulnerable people would stop dying and things would start to return to normal again. Maybe I was being naive but I thought we’d definitely be back by the summer, to hear we’ve probably got the best part of another year of this is really depressing.

I climb up on Arthur's Seat every day just so I can look down on the stadium and I want to get back in there as soon as possible to watch Nisbet for real and speak to all the wonderful Hibees I know.

We need to remain positive Bingo. It is beginning to turn, from a very great height I grant you.
Today the new case number dropped under 1000. It's been a long time since we broke that barrier.
Next number we need to see falling is hospital numbers which is coming down painfully slow.
The numbers will fall and the old spuds will continue to get injected and the death numbers will plummet.
Another 6 weeks and we might start to see the wood from the trees.

Those Hibs supporters that can, need to help Ron keep the plates spinning by buying season tickets.
Think the club should hold the launch back until things look a whole lot better though.

[CMurdoch]

And September's probably just when some fans will return. I think it will be sometime during 2022 before we're back to full capacity.

Target for September should be to get all our season ticket holders into the 4 stands for 2 out of 3 games initially. Whether it is possible is a total guess but I am hopeful and being positive given we will all be vaccinated.
Hope 10,000 of us can afford to buy ST's.
No away supporters next season.

[Blaster]

Target for September should be to get all our season tickets into the 4 stands.
No away supporters.

Agree. It’s likely to be season ticket holders only initially

[hibbysam]

Sorry if people don’t agree and take offence, but the fact that we are talking about ‘could’ and ‘maybe’ 18 months down the line shows what an absolute ****show this government have presided over. Leitch himself said we are going to have to live with the virus at some stage, yet here we are, still sitting in our houses with no prospect of normality, while the government throw all sorts of threats our way and little by little remove all aspects of our freedom.

[hibee-boys]

We changed our season ticket seats for this season, might be able to change it again before ever having the chance of getting to watch a game in it!🤔😂

[H18 SFR]

We are seeing more and more on here along the lines of I can’t renew as I don’t want to watch this style of play etc etc. Maybe after all that has happened in the world it time to let those fans go and rebuild the club from a smaller fan base.

We watched the game yesterday as a family of 4 for the first time, I currently have a season ticket with my oldest, my wife was talking about her and the youngest getting a ST as well and we could incorporate the games into a weekend away (we live in a Ayr), or out for lunch before the game.

The point I’m making is fan bases can be rebuilt over time, if we do lose a high proportion due to the pandemic and the supposed utterly horrendous football on show, we will rebuild the fan base over time.

[hibee-boys]

My youngest daughter has started to really get into Hibs by watching the games with me, her older sister less so!😂 I’ll definitely be getting at least 1 additional season ticket for next year for her, hopefully there’s been more kids, wife’s.....husbands! that have been converted whilst watching at home and want to experience the ‘real thing’!.

[H18 SFR]

My youngest daughter has started to really get into Hibs by watching the games with me, her older sister less so!😂 I’ll definitely be getting at least 1 additional season ticket for next year for her, hopefully there’s been more kids, wife’s.....husbands! that have been converted whilst watching at home and want to experience the ‘real thing’!.

Basically identical to us. My pal who used to sit next to us but moved to the west stand from the FFL two years ago is also returning to the FFL next year to take her niece who has expressed an interest in hibs.

You never know, the FFL might actually have a resurgence with families.

[Keith_M]

*****, amateur stuff on my part :doh: :greengrin


I know, you need to think things through before you post.


Not that I ever do, but there you go...


:greengrin

[Keith_M]

I’m really pretty devastated that we’re talking about September before some people are possibly back.

Went for a walk round Easter road the other day and realised how much I miss it. I’m quite lucky in that mental health problems aren’t something that’s really ever effected me but I almost found myself getting a bit emotional about it.

I’d really thought once the vaccine started to get rolled out, the most vulnerable people would stop dying and things would start to return to normal again. Maybe I was being naive but I thought we’d definitely be back by the summer, to hear we’ve probably got the best part of another year of this is really depressing.


I walk past Hampden every day on my lunch break, and I almost wish they'd let me in to drink my coffee in the North Stand seats and stare wistfully at the pitch.


Not that I'm that sad but...

[GreenCastle]

Just wondering what would make you buy a season ticket / membership for next season ?

I know many peoples circumstances have changed due to the last 12 months and everything that’s been going on but curious to see what would seriously make you consider renewing.

I’m not sure the exact number sold this season but maybe some creative thinking could help the club match the similar number / income.

Some people will renew whatever the circumstances but there is probably a large number unsure due to the nature of whether or not we will see games at the stadium from August / September.

[G15 Hibs]

Just wondering what would make you buy a season ticket / membership for next season ?

I know many peoples circumstances have changed due to the last 12 months and everything that’s been going on but curious to see what would seriously make you consider renewing.

I’m not sure the exact number sold this season but maybe some creative thinking could help the club match the similar number / income.

Some people will renew whatever the circumstances but there is probably a large number unsure due to the nature of whether or not we will see games at the stadium from August / September.

I'm in a very fortunate situation in that I've been able to keep working and stay in a job, I know that everyone's not been as lucky as I've been. Because I'm in that situation I'm going to buy a season ticket whatever the situation with being able to get in to games or not. It might seem a bit daft, and I know its very unlikely to the point of impossible that we'll get into games at least in the early part of the season, but I see it as a way of supporting the club and I want Hibs to still be there in as decent shape as possible when we can get back to games. There's bound to be a massive drop off in ST sales this year with the uncertainty and that'll have an effect on preparations for next season, whatever form that takes. As I can, I'll do what I can do help.

Again, I know not everyone is in a position to be able to do the same.

[hibbysam]

I'm in a very fortunate situation in that I've been able to keep working and stay in a job, I know that everyone's not been as lucky as I've been. Because I'm in that situation I'm going to buy a season ticket whatever the situation with being able to get in to games or not. It might seem a bit daft, and I know its very unlikely to the point of impossible that we'll get into games at least in the early part of the season, but I see it as a way of supporting the club and I want Hibs to still be there in as decent shape as possible when we can get back to games. There's bound to be a massive drop off in ST sales this year with the uncertainty and that'll have an effect on preparations for next season, whatever form that takes. As I can, I'll do what I can do help.

Again, I know not everyone is in a position to be able to do the same.

Likewise.

[Eyrie]

Just wondering what would make you buy a season ticket / membership for next season ?

I know many peoples circumstances have changed due to the last 12 months and everything that’s been going on but curious to see what would seriously make you consider renewing.

I’m not sure the exact number sold this season but maybe some creative thinking could help the club match the similar number / income.

Some people will renew whatever the circumstances but there is probably a large number unsure due to the nature of whether or not we will see games at the stadium from August / September.
It would be very easy to say "loyalty" or "habit" but the simple fact of the matter is that, like the two other replies, I'm in the fortunate position of having the disposable income to buy a season ticket despite knowing that there's a fair chance I won't get the full benefit. I'll still wait until the end of the early bird window though to buy.

Anyone with kids, out of work etc has a big decision to make and, regardless of whether they buy or not, their decision will be the right one for their circumstances.

[HibbyAndy]

I'm in a very fortunate situation in that I've been able to keep working and stay in a job, I know that everyone's not been as lucky as I've been. Because I'm in that situation I'm going to buy a season ticket whatever the situation with being able to get in to games or not. It might seem a bit daft, and I know its very unlikely to the point of impossible that we'll get into games at least in the early part of the season, but I see it as a way of supporting the club and I want Hibs to still be there in as decent shape as possible when we can get back to games. There's bound to be a massive drop off in ST sales this year with the uncertainty and that'll have an effect on preparations for next season, whatever form that takes. As I can, I'll do what I can do help.

Again, I know not everyone is in a position to be able to do the same.



Same as me

Worked through this horrendous period every single day so i can afford to renew for me and my boy.


We need to be back in stadiums by 2022

[Lancs Harp]

Ive not been a season ticket holder for a couple of seasons now as due to personal circumstance the number of matches I can actually attend is dwindling. Even at the height of attending I was only getting to 12/13 matches a season (I do live in Lancashire and work in Herts and Cambs btw). Have been giving serious consideration to buying for next season although in all likeliness I would be lucky to see 5 games, but its about doing your bit for the club. Its virtually a donation I guess. I've given thought to perhaps letting someone else use when i cant. Mrs isnt happy she thinks I'm a lunatic and Ive been made fully aware that the money could go towards a holiday and had the exchange rate to bottles of gin or prosecco quoted to me numerous times.

Is following football club actually an illness?

[HibbyAndy]

Ive not been a season ticket holder for a couple of seasons now as due to personal circumstance the number of matches I can actually attend is dwindling. Even at the height of attending I was only getting to 12/13 matches a season (I do live in Lancashire and work in Herts and Cambs btw). Have been giving serious consideration to buying for next season although in all likeliness I would be lucky to see 5 games, but its about doing your bit for the club. Its virtually a donation I guess. I've given thought to perhaps letting someone else use when i cant. Mrs isnt happy she thinks I'm a lunatic and Ive been made fully aware that the money could go towards a holiday and had the exchange rate to bottles of gin or prosecco quoted to me numerous times.

Is following football club actually an illness?



Its hibs , Its in our blood

[CMurdoch]

Ive not been a season ticket holder for a couple of seasons now as due to personal circumstance the number of matches I can actually attend is dwindling. Even at the height of attending I was only getting to 12/13 matches a season (I do live in Lancashire and work in Herts and Cambs btw). Have been giving serious consideration to buying for next season although in all likeliness I would be lucky to see 5 games, but its about doing your bit for the club. Its virtually a donation I guess. I've given thought to perhaps letting someone else use when i cant. Mrs isnt happy she thinks I'm a lunatic and Ive been made fully aware that the money could go towards a holiday and had the exchange rate to bottles of gin or prosecco quoted to me numerous times.

Is following football club actually an illness?

It's a brutal addiction until death do you part!
I was up for my daily look down at Easter Road from Arthur's Seat this afternoon.
So close yet so far.

[Billy Whizz]

Wonder if we’ll market these in March as Hibs usually do

[andudare2]

Lucky enough to be in a position to renew but find it understandable why others are not.Been mentioned a few times about being unable to attend/not enjoying the football on show but personally as long as im able to i will buy my season ticket as we wont be locked out of holy ground for ever and style of football is always changing.

[H113EE5]

Sorry if people don’t agree and take offence, but the fact that we are talking about ‘could’ and ‘maybe’ 18 months down the line shows what an absolute ****show this government have presided over. Leitch himself said we are going to have to live with the virus at some stage, yet here we are, still sitting in our houses with no prospect of normality, while the government throw all sorts of threats our way and little by little remove all aspects of our freedom.

Totally agree. Leitch’s 15 minutes of fame is well and truly past it’s sell by date.

Leitch, Blackford and Sturgeon make a great recreation of Three Stooges or the three wise monkeys

[Itsnoteasy]

Totally agree. Leitch’s 15 minutes of fame is well and truly past it’s sell by date.

Leitch, Blackford and Sturgeon make a great recreation of Three Stooges or the three wise monkeys

And the people want them to lead us into Independence 🤔

[Scouse Hibee]

And the people want them to lead us into Independence 🤔

Hindsight is a great thing.

[Jamesie]

https://www.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-scotland-professor-jason-leitch-warns-it-will-be-some-time-yet-fans-are-allowed-back-sports-stadiums-3127382 - “some time yet” before fans will be back in grounds...

[matty_f]

And the people want them to lead us into Independence 🤔

They want Leitch to lead us into independence?

Rhetorical question anyway, this is the football discussion forum. Politics on the Holy Ground, please.

[JimBHibees]

Ive not been a season ticket holder for a couple of seasons now as due to personal circumstance the number of matches I can actually attend is dwindling. Even at the height of attending I was only getting to 12/13 matches a season (I do live in Lancashire and work in Herts and Cambs btw). Have been giving serious consideration to buying for next season although in all likeliness I would be lucky to see 5 games, but its about doing your bit for the club. Its virtually a donation I guess. I've given thought to perhaps letting someone else use when i cant. Mrs isnt happy she thinks I'm a lunatic and Ive been made fully aware that the money could go towards a holiday and had the exchange rate to bottles of gin or prosecco quoted to me numerous times.

Is following football club actually an illness?

More a love affair. :greengrin

[Ronniekirk]

There was an article I saw the other day suggests outdoor and large music venues would be up and running again fir the next two years in Scotland ffs Am assuming they mean maybe not at full capacity Anyone else see this looked for article agsin and can’t find it



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[Sir David Gray]

There was an article I saw the other day suggests outdoor and large music venues would be up and running again fir the next two years in Scotland ffs Am assuming they mean maybe not at full capacity Anyone else see this looked for article agsin and can’t find it


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They don't appear to have been told they can't hold them at all, it's more that they see holding them with reduced numbers as unviable.

https://www.scotsman.com/whats-on/arts-and-entertainment/scotland-facing-two-and-half-years-without-major-festivals-or-events-warns-industry-chief-3126402

[Ronniekirk]

They don't appear to have been told they can't hold them at all, it's more that they see holding them with reduced numbers as unviable.

https://www.scotsman.com/whats-on/arts-and-entertainment/scotland-facing-two-and-half-years-without-major-festivals-or-events-warns-industry-chief-3126402

Cheers


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[ahibby]

I bought a ST for this season knowing there would be little to no chance of attending games. Fortunate to be able to and so will renew continuously as long as I am working.

[CMurdoch]

https://www.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-scotland-professor-jason-leitch-warns-it-will-be-some-time-yet-fans-are-allowed-back-sports-stadiums-3127382 - “some time yet” before fans will be back in grounds...

The truth is that none of us know when we will be back in grounds. That includes medical experts like Leitch. Everyone is just guessing including him but folk keep asking him and others the same questions. It's akin to your kids in the back of the car constantly asking if we are there yet!Both pointless and annoying.
The mists will clear as the vaccination programme progresses and the numbers drop over the weeks that follow.
If folk can wait for another 5 weeks before asking the guy the same question we might get a more considered and useful answer.

[Onion]

There was an article I saw the other day suggests outdoor and large music venues would be up and running again fir the next two years in Scotland ffs Am assuming they mean maybe not at full capacity Anyone else see this looked for article agsin and can’t find it



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Current position is unsustainable. As soon as the majority of adults are vaccinated in the Uk, and hospitalisations & death rates drop, the population will simply stop listening. Covid is likely to be around us for years to come and we'll all just have to live with it. If that means many of us getting mildly sick from time to time, then so be it.

Moving between countries and holidaying abroad may be a different matter..

[CentreLine]

Current position is unsustainable. As soon as the majority of adults are vaccinated in the Uk, and hospitalisations & death rates drop, the population will simply stop listening. Covid is likely to be around us for years to come and we'll all just have to live with it. If that means many of us getting mildly sick from time to time, then so be it.

Moving between countries and holidaying abroad may be a different matter..

I think I’m with you there. The population, generally, has been incredibly good at keeping to the rules but the vaccine has to be a game changer in so many ways. Not immediately but, as you say, when the rates start to nose dive and people are showing signs of not becoming seriously ill, the economy must be given a chance to get moving again and people have to be able to get back to something like normal.

But regardless of that, if Hibs are in Europe from a third place standpoint, I suspect a large number of supporters will be backing the effort with a season ticket purchase.

[skankomcphee]

I bought a ST for this season knowing there would be little to no chance of attending games. Fortunate to be able to and so will renew continuously as long as I am working.

I wonder how many people would have done likewise if last June they knew what they now know.

[GreenCastle]

Wonder if they will wait with the ST announcements as obviously getting 3rd and into Europe will sell more.

Haven’t seen any clubs in the U.K. advertise for next season yet as obviously so many unknowns still.

[skankomcphee]

Wonder if they will wait with the ST announcements as obviously getting 3rd and into Europe will sell more.

Haven’t seen any clubs in the U.K. advertise for next season yet as obviously so many unknowns still.

Aye going to be interesting to see what the first club to do so are offering - don’t envy the marketing team this job tbh

[Jamesie]

Just checked and 9 March was the date last year on which seasons went on sale. So it’ll be interesting to see whether that remains the case this year.

[danhibees1875]

Just checked and 9 March was the date last year on which seasons went on sale. So it’ll be interesting to see whether that remains the case this year.

Was there confirmation of that date and prices in advance? I'm assuming there was and probably before this point last year.

I don't expect Hibs to rush this through though.

[Sir David Gray]

Was there confirmation of that date and prices in advance? I'm assuming there was and probably before this point last year.

I don't expect Hibs to rush this through though.

9th March was when the prices were announced, they went on sale on 27th March.

[Garymcl]

Me and family of 4 will renew no matter what but I understand it’s down to what personal financial circumstances for each person when it comes down to the matter of numbers usually it’s a feel good factor situation the numbers in the past few season have been phenomenal to say the least if you add the possibility of ending 3rd in the league and a spell of European football think even in these trying times our sales could rocket :thumbsup:

[danhibees1875]

9th March was when the prices were announced, they went on sale on 27th March.

:aok:

Finger on the pulse as always SDG. :greengrin

[Sir David Gray]

:aok:

Finger on the pulse as always SDG. :greengrin

:greengrin The only reason I remember was because we went into lockdown on 23rd March and I remember a debate on here about whether Hibs would still decide to continue with the plan to start selling season tickets a few days after the season had been paused and the lockdown had been announced and so there was so much uncertainty about the future of fans at football.

[Jamesie]

9th March was when the prices were announced, they went on sale on 27th March.

Yup you’re spot on!

[Jamesie]

Me and family of 4 will renew no matter what but I understand it’s down to what personal financial circumstances for each person when it comes down to the matter of numbers usually it’s a feel good factor situation the numbers in the past few season have been phenomenal to say the least if you add the possibility of ending 3rd in the league and a spell of European football think even in these trying times our sales could rocket :thumbsup:

I like the sound of a season ticket with a Europa League supplement on offer! :greengrin

[h1bs4life]

Hopefully we will have the same dates as down south for coming out of lockdown.
They are talking about crowds of 10000 before end of season and no restrictions from around 21st June , that would help with with season ticket sales .

[Billy Whizz]

I’m hoping we don’t have to watch the Malaprop sisters, in the season ticket ad

[Blaster]

Might only be season ticket holders allowed in for the first 2-3 months if reduced capacity which may encourage folk to renew

[The dalmeny]

I’m hoping we don’t have to watch the Malaprop sisters, in the season ticket ad


oooft, forgot about that, thanks/no thanks

[04Sauzee]

After shelling out for 4 Season tickets this season and declining the refund from last season. Add the 4 Hibs tops purchased 2 home and 2 away for the kids plus some training gear. It looks like next season I won't be able to justify buying the 4 tickets again unless there will be fans back by early next season.
Some hard choices to be made in my family.
Hopefully fans will be back and i can renew.

[Onion]

Might only be season ticket holders allowed in for the first 2-3 months if reduced capacity which may encourage folk to renew

In England, is all goes to plan, 10k crowds from 17 May. And from 21 June

"The fourth step will potentially see all legal limits on social contact removed, with the final closed sectors of the economy reopened - such as nightclubs."

My reading of that is, no restriction on crowds indoors or out.

As long as Scotland don't get too cute, we could see full stadia from June onwards, perfect timing for Euro matches and the new season.

[Blaster]

In England, is all goes to plan, 10k crowds from 17 May. And from 21 June

"The fourth step will potentially see all legal limits on social contact removed, with the final closed sectors of the economy reopened - such as nightclubs."

My reading of that is, no restriction on crowds indoors or out.

As long as Scotland don't get too cute, we could see full stadia from June onwards, perfect timing for Euro matches and the new season.

Hopefully mate 👍

[Lago]

Hopefully we will have the same dates as down south for coming out of lockdown.
They are talking about crowds of 10000 before end of season and no restrictions from around 21st June , that would help with with season ticket sales .
Doubtful

[Jamesie]

Suggestion in this morning’s English press that limited crowds may be back for the last day of the season.

[Sir David Gray]

Suggestion in this morning’s English press that limited crowds may be back for the last day of the season.

Yes 17th May up to 10,000 fans may be able to attend football matches in England.

I'd be surprised if it's that early up here to be honest.

[Brunswickbill]

I wonder how many people would have done likewise if last June they knew what they now know.

I bought my first season ticket last year and didn’t expect to sit in my seat during this season. As I live on the west coast I’ve seen more games this season than ever before. Now fully addicted and looking forward renewing ST and to more travel to my home town next season.

[G15 Hibs]

Hopefully mate 👍


Doubtful

I'm feeling both of these right now

[Jamesie]

Having just shelled out on Rugby World Cup tickets it made me wonder when my next significant event expenditure will be - and in turn when season tickets will likely be marketed. Anyone heard anything?

[CMurdoch]

Having just shelled out on Rugby World Cup tickets it made me wonder when my next significant event expenditure will be - and in turn when season tickets will likely be marketed. Anyone heard anything?

Think the club will hold off for 3 weeks which would see very small covid deaths and hospital numbers and a Scottish Govt announcement on the roll back towards normality. Another million Scots will also be vaccinated in that time and the weather will be warmer and brighter.

Basically need to wait a final month until things look and feel better.

[04Sauzee]

Dundee Utd launch their season ticket campaign.

https://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/tickets/loyaltyperiod?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=dundeeunitedfc

[hibee]

Dundee Utd launch their season ticket campaign.

https://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/tickets/loyaltyperiod?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=dundeeunitedfc

That’s quite a big credit they are offering for those that bought this season.

[Hibee Mac]

That’s quite a big credit they are offering for those that bought this season.Am I missing something, it looks like they're just offering existing season ticket holders to renew at the same price they paid the previous year?

[BlackSheep]

IIRC Hearts said that ST purchasers at the start of the season would be guaranteed 18 home games even if it bled into the next season.....

So at this rate ST holders will be getting next season for free....?

[calumhibee1]

IIRC Hearts said that ST purchasers at the start of the season would be guaranteed 18 home games even if it bled into the next season.....

So at this rate ST holders will be getting next season for free....?

They’ll be 4 short of that I presume?

I’d expect them to offer full price seasons with a refund for the missed games. Next to nobody will take them up on it and they’ll be no worse off.

[danhibees1875]

Am I missing something, it looks like they're just offering existing season ticket holders to renew at the same price they paid the previous year?

It's hard to know what's going on with that pricing structure without seeing the equivalent for last season but I'd say it sounds like there's no price reduction going on there - just an "early bird" discount, the only difference might be they've put the other prices up, unless there was always a £40 difference.

[marinello59]

IIRC Hearts said that ST purchasers at the start of the season would be guaranteed 18 home games even if it bled into the next season.....

So at this rate ST holders will be getting next season for free....?

To be fair they explained to the deluded ones after they had bought their season tickets that matches watched on the clubs stream counted as a home game for the purposes of the guarantee. :greengrin

[Mon Dieu4]

IIRC Hearts said that ST purchasers at the start of the season would be guaranteed 18 home games even if it bled into the next season.....

So at this rate ST holders will be getting next season for free....?

I'm sure they were then told that if they watched a game online it would class as being at the game

Marinello beat me to it!!

[danhibees1875]

They’ll be 4 short of that I presume?

I’d expect them to offer full price seasons with a refund for the missed games. Next to nobody will take them up on it and they’ll be no worse off.

I think hearts offered 18 games in person though. So they're 18 short.

Of course, fans were provided with TV access as an alternative which wasn't anywhere in the initial deal. So how they begin to unpick that is anyone's guess. Their fans, like most, will probably show a fair bit of leniency towards the whole thing regardless though as you say. :agree:

Edit: apparently that was already covered in their deal...

[marinello59]

I'm sure they were then told that if they watched a game online it would class as being at the game

Marinello beat me to it!!

I’ve just ran out to the garden and high fived the neighbours cat. :greengrin

[calumhibee1]

I think hearts offered 18 games in person though. So they're 18 short.

Of course, fans were provided with TV access as an alternative which wasn't anywhere in the initial deal. So how they begin to unpick that is anyone's guess. Their fans, like most, will probably show a fair bit of leniency towards the whole thing regardless though as you say. :agree:

Edit: apparently that was already covered in their deal...

Forgot they done that :faf:

[hibee]

Am I missing something, it looks like they're just offering existing season ticket holders to renew at the same price they paid the previous year?

They are offering a credit but asking them not to take it if they can afford not to, worked example was in the FAQ.

An adult season ticket holder in Eddie Thompson lower:
Paid in advance for 2020/21 £279.00
Credit due 17/19 (assuming can’t attend any matches in 20/21) £249.63
Standard price for 2021/22 £460.00
Less credit £249.63
Amount payable for 2022/23 £210.37

[BlackSheep]

To be fair they explained to the deluded ones after they had bought their season tickets that matches watched on the clubs stream counted as a home game for the purposes of the guarantee. :greengrin

Wow.... that’s a kick in the teeth for their fans!

[Steven79]

Wow.... that’s a kick in the teeth for their fans!




They don't mind being shafted...