Season Tickets 2021/22

[GreenCastle]

Dundee Utd launch their season ticket campaign.

https://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/tickets/loyaltyperiod?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=dundeeunitedfc

Quick glance but no mention of Covid till FAQ

“What happens if I am not able to attend matches in the 2021/22 season due to ongoing Covid-19 restrictions? Will I obtain a credit or refund?

Based on all the information available at the time of launching the season ticket campaign, the Club is confident that fans will be allowed into the stadium for matches next season. This confidence is based on the success to date of the Covid-19 vaccination programme and the Scottish and UK government projections regarding the extension of vaccinations across the whole country and all age groups by the end of July, which is underpinning their estimated timelines for lifting the current restrictions.

In the event there are some matches next season where there are restrictions on numbers in the stadium, then priority will be given to season ticket holders who renew during the Loyalty Period.

No credits or refunds will be offered to season ticket holders for any matches they are unable to attend in 2021/22 because of Covid-19 restrictions, however the Club will continue to offer season ticket holders free access to watching the matches live on DUTV where permitted to do so under the SPFL broadcasting agreement. “

Interesting they have added a loyalty category - could see Hibs maybe doing something similar or ideally an annual membership. They may wait and see IF we qualify for Europe.

Any other teams in the UK released info yet ?

[Billy Whizz]

Quick glance but no mention of Covid till FAQ

“What happens if I am not able to attend matches in the 2021/22 season due to ongoing Covid-19 restrictions? Will I obtain a credit or refund?

Based on all the information available at the time of launching the season ticket campaign, the Club is confident that fans will be allowed into the stadium for matches next season. This confidence is based on the success to date of the Covid-19 vaccination programme and the Scottish and UK government projections regarding the extension of vaccinations across the whole country and all age groups by the end of July, which is underpinning their estimated timelines for lifting the current restrictions.

In the event there are some matches next season where there are restrictions on numbers in the stadium, then priority will be given to season ticket holders who renew during the Loyalty Period.

No credits or refunds will be offered to season ticket holders for any matches they are unable to attend in 2021/22 because of Covid-19 restrictions, however the Club will continue to offer season ticket holders free access to watching the matches live on DUTV where permitted to do so under the SPFL broadcasting agreement. “

Interesting they have added a loyalty category - could see Hibs maybe doing something similar or ideally an annual membership. They may wait and see IF we qualify for Europe.

Any other teams in the UK released info yet ?

We have an early bird scheme as well

[danhibees1875]

We have an early bird scheme as well

They have a loyalty scheme prior to the early bird, exclusively for 2020 ST holders.

[Gatecrasher]

I bought my ST a year a go tomorrow, I think it was the same day they released the info. I wonder if we'll hear something this week?

EDIT: it was tomorrow not today.

[Sir David Gray]

I bought my ST a year a go tomorrow, I think it was the same day they released the info. I wonder if we'll hear something this week?

EDIT: it was tomorrow not today.

Prices were announced on 9th March last year and they went on sale on 27th March.

[CMurdoch]

Looks like we are waiting until 3rd is secured then will go with the razzmatazz of the positives of that including European football in the sales pitch, even though those games won't form part of ST.

[ancient hibee]

Looks like we are waiting until 3rd is secured then will go with the razzmatazz of the positives of that including European football in the sales pitch, even though those games won't form part of ST.

No they don't but may well give you a guaranteed option to buy a ticket for European matches particularly if attendances are limited.

[Northernhibee]

To be fair they explained to the deluded ones after they had bought their season tickets that matches watched on the clubs stream counted as a home game for the purposes of the guarantee. :greengrin

Their issues may come if someone wants to challenge that when they find out that it can't be used when they return next season.

Which wouldn't be funny at all.

:greengrin

[CMurdoch]

No they don't but may well give you a guaranteed option to buy a ticket for European matches particularly if attendances are limited.

Thats an especially good point in these times.
They will be selling it hard with lots of priority this and priority that interspersed with tugs on the heart strings and compliments blown up our kilts for good measure.

[Hibernian Verse]

Thats an especially good point in these times.
They will be selling it hard with lots of priority this and priority that interspersed with tugs on the heart strings and compliments blown up our kilts for good measure.

That's an interesting idea for selling seasons. Not sure it'll get past the marketing dept!

[Onion]

No they don't but may well give you a guaranteed option to buy a ticket for European matches particularly if attendances are limited.

You might get to buy a ticket, but Hibs are in no position to guarantee anyone will be able to attend matches as things stand.

[hibstag]

To be fair they explained to the deluded ones after they had bought their season tickets that matches watched on the clubs stream counted as a home game for the purposes of the guarantee. :greengrin

The best bit was their idiot supporters lording it over other teams as being ripped off for paying the full st price to stream the games only for it to be the same for them.

[Jamesie]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/tickets-hospitality/season-tickets

Looks like some info has been quietly uploaded to the club website:

- As I understand was indicated at the AGM, prices remain the same for next season
- Options for 6 month direct debit (interest free) and 10 month V12 finance (with the supporter bearing interest costs)
- Certain added benefits: https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/tickets-hospitality/season-tickets/season-ticket-holder-benefits
- Looks like there will again be an early bird period but it isn’t defined anywhere that I can see - I’d expect it to be set once tickets actually go on sale.

There’s a decent FAQ on the link above too.

[Stuart93]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/tickets-hospitality/season-tickets

Looks like some info has been quietly uploaded to the club website:

- As I understand was indicated at the AGM, prices remain the same for next season
- Options for 6 month direct debit (interest free) and 10 month V12 finance (with the supporter bearing interest costs)
- Certain added benefits: https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/tickets-hospitality/season-tickets/season-ticket-holder-benefits
- Looks like there will again be an early bird period but it isn’t defined anywhere that I can see - I’d expect it to be set once tickets actually go on sale.

There’s a decent FAQ on the link above too.

Wonder how much the interest will be on the 10 month plan

[Peevemor]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/tickets-hospitality/season-tickets

Looks like some info has been quietly uploaded to the club website:

- As I understand was indicated at the AGM, prices remain the same for next season
- Options for 6 month direct debit (interest free) and 10 month V12 finance (with the supporter bearing interest costs)
- Certain added benefits: https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/tickets-hospitality/season-tickets/season-ticket-holder-benefits
- Looks like there will again be an early bird period but it isn’t defined anywhere that I can see - I’d expect it to be set once tickets actually go on sale.

There’s a decent FAQ on the link above too.

Probably as comprehensive as it could be, although the access to Hibs TV bit is a bit vague - obviously because nobody knows exactly what's happening yet.


Is there a singing section?


‘Since 1875’ are a big part of the atmosphere at Easter Road Stadium, which is why they relocated to the East Stand in Section 45.


If you’d like to be in and around them, the core group are based in rows AA and BB of Section 45 of the East Stand and there are spare seats in the surrounding areas

[Danderhall Hibs]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/tickets-hospitality/season-tickets

Looks like some info has been quietly uploaded to the club website:

- As I understand was indicated at the AGM, prices remain the same for next season
- Options for 6 month direct debit (interest free) and 10 month V12 finance (with the supporter bearing interest costs)
- Certain added benefits: https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/tickets-hospitality/season-tickets/season-ticket-holder-benefits
- Looks like there will again be an early bird period but it isn’t defined anywhere that I can see - I’d expect it to be set once tickets actually go on sale.

There’s a decent FAQ on the link above too.

Cheers Jamesie. Looks like it’s been uploaded before it’s been proof read.

The additional benefits between gold, silver and bronze seems fairly pointless and my thank you for renewing last year is to pay extra this year (in the form of interest).

Sorry to all who will complain that I’ve started on a negative!

[dp00]

Interesting the T&C this year saying no refunds ? Is that new ?

Hoping there is more info on it but tbh I’m a little underwhelmed given I spent all that money last year and haven’t seen a game. I think I would have expected more for those fans renewing ?

Also will all the extras actually happen ? Seem to think there was a big mention of extras for this season and I’ve seen none

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[bod]

No 30 . Basically if the club get fined for you invading the pitch well pass the fine onto you .might stop a few numptys

[Frazerbob]

Interesting the T&C this year saying no refunds ? Is that new ?

Hoping there is more info on it but tbh I’m a little underwhelmed given I spent all that money last year and haven’t seen a game. I think I would have expected more for those fans renewing ?

Also will all the extras actually happen ? Seem to think there was a big mention of extras for this season and I’ve seen none

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There was the promise of benefits and extras for those who didn’t request a refund for the 4 or 5 games list at the end of 19/20 season. The thought was it would be tours if EM and open training sessions etc. Obviously circumstances dictated that they weren’t possible. Nobody expected us to still be living in these extraordinary times back then.

[eastterrace]

Interesting the T&C this year saying no refunds ? Is that new ?

Hoping there is more info on it but tbh I’m a little underwhelmed given I spent all that money last year and haven’t seen a game. I think I would have expected more for those fans renewing ?

Also will all the extras actually happen ? Seem to think there was a big mention of extras for this season and I’ve seen none

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalkwhat would be the point of paying for gold area but you probably won’t get in your seat so you could end up in the bronze area. It’s going to be a testing time for the club and the fans.

[Sir David Gray]

Cheers Jamesie. Looks like it’s been uploaded before it’s been proof read.

The additional benefits between gold, silver and bronze seems fairly pointless and my thank you for renewing last year is to pay extra this year (in the form of interest).

Sorry to all who will complain that I’ve started on a negative!

I'm glad someone else mentioned the negatives first - I was going to then decided against it!

Personally think it's a bit mean to not offer things like access to an open day to all returning season ticket holders considering people bought season tickets this season in blind faith.

[Billy Whizz]

Is the Gold, Sliver, Bronze, where you sit in the stadium?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Is the Gold, Sliver, Bronze, where you sit in the stadium?

Yes - it’s supposed to be although obviously it’s not actually materialised yet.

[Billy Whizz]

Yes - it’s supposed to be although obviously it’s not actually materialised yet.

It was for this seasons tickets

[bringbackbenny]

Is the Gold, Sliver, Bronze, where you sit in the stadium?

Seems to be up here (assuming this is for 21/22)

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/tickets-hospitality/season-tickets/pricing-categories

[Danderhall Hibs]

It was for this seasons tickets

Yeah - the pricing kicked in but there’s been no differentiation in product received for the extra money.

[Billy Whizz]

Yeah - the pricing kicked in but there’s been no differentiation in product received for the extra money.

Get you now

[jeffers]

I’ve posted before that when Hibs put the different categories in place last season they couldn’t foresee there would be no fans attending games at all. However due to where my seat is I’ve paid a premium to receive the exact same as someone who bought a season ticket in a Bronze category. I appreciate focus has to be on getting tickets bought for next season, but I was hoping for a bit more than a thanks for doing so last season, yet there is nothing to “reward” anyone who is renewing this season. The “benefits” have no interest to me, with the only difference by being in the Gold category the possibility of attending the kit launch which possibly won’t even take place anyway.

In posting this I expect some will question my loyalty, you buy a season ticket to support the team, what do you mean you want a “reward” for renewing. However I’d still like to have seen something more than what is being offered, especially as we are being expected to renew with still no likelihood we’ll have full capacity at the start of next season.

[Andy74]

I’ve posted before that when Hibs put the different categories in place last season they couldn’t foresee there would be no fans attending games at all. However due to where my seat is I’ve paid a premium to receive the exact same as someone who bought a season ticket in a Bronze category. I appreciate focus has to be on getting tickets bought for next season, but I was hoping for a bit more than a thanks for doing so last season, yet there is nothing to “reward” anyone who is renewing this season. The “benefits” have no interest to me, with the only difference by being in the Gold category the possibility of attending the kit launch which possibly won’t even take place anyway.

In posting this I expect some will question my loyalty, you buy a season ticket to support the team, what do you mean you want a “reward” for renewing. However I’d still like to have seen something more than what is being offered, especially as we are being expected to renew with still no likelihood we’ll have full capacity at the start of next season.

It is tough because any substantial ‘reward’ is going to cost Hibs money, which we can’t really afford just now.

[Danderhall Hibs]

It is tough because any substantial ‘reward’ is going to cost Hibs money, which we can’t really afford just now.

There’s no “just now” about it. It’s always like that no matter what.

[hibee]

I don’t like the sound of number 6 in the new terms, the main reason I bought my three tickets again this season was so I wouldn’t lose my seats, seems I now have no automatic right to keep them or even sit in them every week.

6. This season ticket permits you to occupy the seat indicated on the season ticket or such alternative seat as the Club allocates to you from time to time at its discretion. A season ticket does not give the holder any automatic or guaranteed right to purchase the same seat for any subsequent season and nothing in these Terms shall constitute or imply any entitlement to occupy the seat indicated on the season ticket.

[Stuart93]

Aye can’t see much reward going by that and the rewards that have been offered might not even go ahead

[Since90+2]

I don’t like the sound of number 6 in the new terms, the main reason I bought my three tickets again this season was so I wouldn’t lose my seats, seems I now have no automatic right to keep them or even sit in them every week.

6. This season ticket permits you to occupy the seat indicated on the season ticket or such alternative seat as the Club allocates to you from time to time at its discretion. A season ticket does not give the holder any automatic or guaranteed right to purchase the same seat for any subsequent season and nothing in these Terms shall constitute or imply any entitlement to occupy the seat indicated on the season ticket.

Is that not always been there?

[hibee]

Is that not always been there?

No idea, never seen them before, still don’t like the sound of it!

[G15 Hibs]

No idea, never seen them before, still don’t like the sound of it!

I'd think that part of the reason for it being in, if it wasn't before, is that if there's still a need for distancing when crowds are back, which seems likely for at least the start of next season, you might need to sit elsewhere to ensure there's sufficient spaces between groups.

[bod]

I don’t like the sound of number 6 in the new terms, the main reason I bought my three tickets again this season was so I wouldn’t lose my seats, seems I now have no automatic right to keep them or even sit in them every week.

6. This season ticket permits you to occupy the seat indicated on the season ticket or such alternative seat as the Club allocates to you from time to time at its discretion. A season ticket does not give the holder any automatic or guaranteed right to purchase the same seat for any subsequent season and nothing in these Terms shall constitute or imply any entitlement to occupy the seat indicated on the season ticket.

Does that not read you might not have 1st option of renewing that seat for season 22/23 as well ?

[007]

Does that not read you might not have 1st option of renewing that seat for season 22/23 as well ?

I'm guessing it is so the club have the right to move fans if they wanted to change where, say, the family section or the singing section are. I'm sure they'd consult fans on it 1st but ultimately could still do if there were 1 or 2 objections.

[jeffers]

Does that not read you might not have 1st option of renewing that seat for season 22/23 as well ?

It does, but tbf it may have always been there and the moving fans to house the singing section is a good example of it not being a guarantee. Though RG saying he was open to fans being able to pay a deposit to secure their seat is a wee bit contradictory with those terms IMO.

[Up The Bracket]

Really disappointed with the fact that prices appear to be different depending on where your seat is considering some people paid a significant amount more than other for the same product last season, I thought it would be a uniform cost for people renewed.

Especially considering the fact there’s a good chance we won’t be allowed to sit in our actual seats if we’re allowed in.

[Oscar T Grouch]

So because I am renewing and I sit in Sect 37 I get less benefits than those who haven't had a ST before. How is that rewarding loyalty? Not that the benefits something I am looking for, it just seems strange to offer more to those that haven't had a ST through all this:confused:
I suppose if it gets more people buying STs then it is all good for the club.:agree:

[Brightside]

I dont see anything that different tbh. Pretty much as expected. I like the idea of say 7000 Gold members turning up for training sessions. :greengrin

[Oscar T Grouch]

I've never read the T&Cs on ST before but I assume they are the same each year. I noticed that taking photographs and video are forbidden inside the stadium, oops, I have broken that one a few times then :greengrin
Looking forward to renewing tonight when I get home from work.

[hibee-boys]

I’ll renew but thought I’d get some discount of the price of the season ticket, perhaps to compensate for paying gold price vs bronze given that we never actually sat in those seats🤷🏼

[Sir David Gray]

I've never read the T&Cs on ST before but I assume they are the same each year. I noticed that taking photographs and video are forbidden inside the stadium, oops, I have broken that one a few times then :greengrin
Looking forward to renewing tonight when I get home from work.

Yeah the photo and video ban has always been in place but is rarely (if ever) enforced.

I think as long as the footage is kept for personal use and not used commercially for financial gain then you're fine.

[Siralbertkidd]

I dont think this is the finished article, a bit proof reading and checking required, and more info (such as Early Bird cut off date) to go in.

An example is New Seasons get Cup discount, but Renewing Seasons dont. Surely thats just an error?

[tamig]

Cheers Jamesie. Looks like it’s been uploaded before it’s been proof read.

The additional benefits between gold, silver and bronze seems fairly pointless and my thank you for renewing last year is to pay extra this year (in the form of interest).

Sorry to all who will complain that I’ve started on a negative!

Paying interest is your choice. Interest free options are available. Not like you to go with a negatively spinned comment I have to say.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Yeah the photo and video ban has always been in place but is rarely (if ever) enforced.

I think as long as the footage is kept for personal use and not used commercially for financial gain then you're fine.

I remember one guy getting pulled up for it, but I think he was periscoping the match to the world so fair doos. It would be impossible to enforce fully but like you said as long it is for personal use and not broadcast you'll be fine.

[Ronniekirk]

I don’t like the sound of number 6 in the new terms, the main reason I bought my three tickets again this season was so I wouldn’t lose my seats, seems I now have no automatic right to keep them or even sit in them every week.

6. This season ticket permits you to occupy the seat indicated on the season ticket or such alternative seat as the Club allocates to you from time to time at its discretion. A season ticket does not give the holder any automatic or guaranteed right to purchase the same seat for any subsequent season and nothing in these Terms shall constitute or imply any entitlement to occupy the seat indicated on the season ticket.

Agree I love my current seat which is why I have renewed Is this just to cover them being Covid compliant going forward


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[04Sauzee]

I can't see on the pricing where it says at what age a child becomes a youth and at what age a youth becomes an adult?

[Oscar T Grouch]

Looks like there is a load of 404 errors on the site now, so they have taken all but the front page down. Somebody published too soon then.

Edit: front page is down now too!

[Since90+2]

I can't see on the pricing where it says at what age a child becomes a youth and at what age a youth becomes an adult?

Is it not normally 16 the cut off point?

[04Sauzee]

Is it not normally 16 the cut off point?

I think so, just trying to see what I'm due the club again for next season. Another 1k+. Just as well we love the Hibs 😁

[Brightside]

Looks like its all been removed again.

[Billy Whizz]

Looks like its all been removed again.

Did anyone screen shot it

[Danderhall Hibs]

Paying interest is your choice. Interest free options are available. Not like you to go with a negatively spinned comment I have to say.

It’s not really a choice in my situation- I just can’t justify - £180 approx per month over the 6 months.

I try not to be negative but I just think the club aren’t doing much to reward the blind loyalty we showed.

[Andy74]

It’s not really a choice in my situation- I just can’t justify - £180 approx per month over the 6 months.

I try not to be negative but I just think the club aren’t doing much to reward the blind loyalty we showed.

They continued to pay the players with our money.

Hopefully we can understand what happened this year and allow the club to try and continue to develop rather than looking for stuff back which will ultimately eat into money available to spend on players.

[Danderhall Hibs]

They continued to pay the players with our money.

Hopefully we can understand what happened this year and allow the club to try and continue to develop rather than looking for stuff back which will ultimately eat into money available to spend on players.

I’m not really looking for anything back for last year but some kind of thanks rather than a you’ll have to pay more message would’ve been nice.

Incidentally they only paid most of the wages and used the furlough for others and on top of that are getting an insurance windfall.

I’m being asked to pay more.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Looks like its all been removed again.

Quite amateurish releasing it without the video etc that I assume will aim to get us all excited and throw out money at them. They done this previously (season before last?) when the details were available then removed.

[jeffers]

They continued to pay the players with our money.

Hopefully we can understand what happened this year and allow the club to try and continue to develop rather than looking for stuff back which will ultimately eat into money available to spend on players.

Out of interest do you think it’s OK some fans paid more than others for the same returns and are potentially being asked to do the same again for part of next season ?

[04Sauzee]

Quite amateurish releasing it without the video etc that I assume will aim to get us all excited and throw out money at them. They done this previously (season before last?) when the details were available then removed.
There was a very short video which was decent which ended with Jack Ross in the centre of the pitch.

[Brightside]

Quite amateurish releasing it without the video etc that I assume will aim to get us all excited and throw out money at them. They done this previously (season before last?) when the details were available then removed.

I can only assume they dont have a test website for checking this stuff... but i agree with you.

[CMurdoch]

That's an interesting idea for selling seasons. Not sure it'll get past the marketing dept!

:greengrin Would tap into a new market which is what the club are continually trying to do. Obviously uptake would be dependent on who the blowers were and obviously gold would have to be a better experience than bronze. Might encourage a few upgrades though.

* see post 260 on page 9 to make sense of this

[04Sauzee]

I’m not really looking for anything back for last year but some kind of thanks rather than a you’ll have to pay more message would’ve been nice.

Incidentally they only paid most of the wages and used the furlough for others and on top of that are getting an insurance windfall.

I’m being asked to pay more.

Sure we were promised extra content on Hibs TV and abke to watch training sessions this season as a thank you for not taking a refund on last seasons tickets. I can understand why this hasn't happened.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Sure we were promised extra content on Hibs TV and abke to watch training sessions this season as a thank you for not taking a refund on last seasons tickets. I can understand why this hasn't happened.

I’ve no idea why the enhanced hibs tv content didn’t happen: maybe my expectations were set too high but I don’t think a preview programme on a Friday afternoon would’ve been difficult or expensive.

[Ardenttwo]

Sure we were promised extra content on Hibs TV and abke to watch training sessions this season as a thank you for not taking a refund on last seasons tickets. I can understand why this hasn't happened.


Does anyone know just what you get from purchasing Gold

[Danderhall Hibs]

Does anyone know just what you get from purchasing Gold

The page has been removed but there was one extra thing - strip launch (if it happens) I think.

Obviously a better view of the pitch (if that happens).

[Andy74]

Out of interest do you think it’s OK some fans paid more than others for the same returns and are potentially being asked to do the same again for part of next season ?

It was unfortunate that they launched the different prices for different seats but yes, I’m fine with that just being one of the things we accept happened.

You end up with anomalies all over the place. Season tickets v Hibs TV international, families paying for multiple season tickets whilst other families watch the TV access for one season ticket holder. Difficult but the best thing collectively I think is to not worry too deeply about it. Each of us paid what we thought we could afford to - thinking of course that we would get to sit in the stadium but that wasn’t to be.

[SteveHFC]

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-season-ticket-prices-202122-20391421

https://i2-prod.edinburghlive.co.uk/incoming/article20391391.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_2021-22-ST-Pricing.png

access to ST holder only ballot for European games with limited attendance as well as various discounts. Wonder how this will work. So one group go to one game in Europe while the other group go to the next game?

[tamig]

It was unfortunate that they launched the different prices for different seats but yes, I’m fine with that just being one of the things we accept happened.

You end up with anomalies all over the place. Season tickets v Hibs TV international, families paying for multiple season tickets whilst other families watch the TV access for one season ticket holder. Difficult but the best thing collectively I think is to not worry too deeply about it. Each of us paid what we thought we could afford to - thinking of course that we would get to sit in the stadium but that wasn’t to be.

Exactly. Where do you draw the line? Just unfortunate the way things have gone and folk just need to accept that unfortunately.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Exactly. Where do you draw the line? Just unfortunate the way things have gone and folk just need to accept that unfortunately.

We always do and they know it.

[Andy74]

We always do and they know it.

‘They’ aren’t the enemy. At the end of the day they are trying to build the best team they can. That money isn’t going anywhere else.

No one is forced into supporting a football team financially or otherwise but we do seem to get some comments that seem like the relationship is in some way an extortion.

[Danderhall Hibs]

‘They’ aren’t the enemy. At the end of the day they are trying to build the best team they can. That money isn’t going anywhere else.

No one is forced into supporting a football team financially or otherwise but we do seem to get some comments that seem like the relationship is in some way an extortion.

You’ve some way with words Andy - were you an journalist or an author in the past? No ones suggesting extortion just liberty taking.

[Since90+2]

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-season-ticket-prices-202122-20391421

https://i2-prod.edinburghlive.co.uk/incoming/article20391391.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_2021-22-ST-Pricing.png

access to ST holder only ballot for European games with limited attendance as well as various discounts. Wonder how this will work. So one group go to one game in Europe while the other group go to the next game?

That link says for new purchasers they get priority access to away tickets. I'm assuming that means over non season ticket holders rather than those renewing?

[tamig]

You’ve some way with words Andy - were you an journalist or an author in the past? No ones suggesting extortion just liberty taking.

Are you suggesting the club are taking liberties with the fanbase because they want us to help them to achieve a level of success?

[jeffers]

It was unfortunate that they launched the different prices for different seats but yes, I’m fine with that just being one of the things we accept happened.

You end up with anomalies all over the place. Season tickets v Hibs TV international, families paying for multiple season tickets whilst other families watch the TV access for one season ticket holder. Difficult but the best thing collectively I think is to not worry too deeply about it. Each of us paid what we thought we could afford to - thinking of course that we would get to sit in the stadium but that wasn’t to be.

Fair enough. Personally I’d like to have something done by the club, what exactly I’m not sure, rather than it just being completely ignored and the expectation that we just accept it again for next season. I often read comments about how Hearts treat their fans like mugs, feels to me a wee bit like that is what Hibs are doing to some of us.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Are you suggesting the club are taking liberties with the fanbase because they want us to help them to achieve a level of success?

No and I’m not sure how you’ve come to that conclusion.

[CockneyRebel]

No and I’m not sure how you’ve come to that conclusion.

Probably from reading the last reply from you at that point. (no one's suggesting extortion just liberty taking)

[tamig]

Probably from reading the last reply from you at that point. (no one's suggesting extortion just liberty taking)

Indeed 👍

[Danderhall Hibs]

Probably from reading the last reply from you at that point. (no one's suggesting extortion just liberty taking)

Ah right - you missed a bit.

I read the bit that said “because they want us to help them to achieve a level of success?” and wondered how folk were jumping to that conclusion.

[Jamesie]

I’m presuming the club wouldn’t seriously consider selling more hospitality season tickets than they’ll have capacity to house. On that basis, if anyone has the cash and wants to ensure access to every game next season, I expect there is an option available.

[tamig]

Ah right - you missed a bit.

I read the bit that said “because they want us to help them to achieve a level of success?” and wondered how folk were jumping to that conclusion.

So we pay our ST money to the club. Its the biggest single source of income the club get. That money helps the club to progress, hopefully achieving some success. The club sets ST prices which supporters then choose to pay - or not as the case may be. How do you see that as the club taking liberties? Bear in mind any discounts/refunds due to the situation this season reduces that income making the chance of success lower.

[green day]

Amused that people think Hibs are "taking liberties" or whatever.

We still have big costs to cover, and £2m insurance (only 10% collected) won't fill the hole of lost away ends and hospitality for a season.

We have been thanked multiple times for our support this season.

Any assumption that thanking us somehow means we are "entitled" to some money off or whatever for next season doesn't make any financial sense.......unless you want us to go backwards.

If we are now in a better position than most clubs, then let's capitalise on it, pump cash into the club and hopefully get trophies.

[Danderhall Hibs]

So we pay our ST money to the club. Its the biggest single source of income the club get. That money helps the club to progress, hopefully achieving some success. The club sets ST prices which supporters then choose to pay - or not as the case may be. How do you see that as the club taking liberties? Bear in mind any discounts/refunds due to the situation this season reduces that income making the chance of success lower.

You make some fair points - that’s what “they” want us to think instead so they don’t need to do any additional work to generate revenue.

Promise (or at least set expectations) that they’d reward loyalty for last season - nothing.

Promise an enhanced TV package for the current season - nothing.

Charge extra for seats based on where they are in the ground. Not their fault no one can sit in them but no extra benefit for doing so. Not even a mention of it. Or a thank you.

Instead they charge more to renew using the 11 month payment plan.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Amused that people think Hibs are "taking liberties" or whatever.
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Oh I knew that would be the case and thought twice about posting. I bet I wasn’t the only one as I knew there’d be a backlash from those that think the club can do no wrong.

[green day]

Oh I knew that would be the case and thought twice about posting. I bet I wasn’t the only one as I knew there’d be a backlash from those that think the club can do no wrong.

I don't think the club can do no wrong, but I struggle with the concept that they should give us something "back" because there would be a cost attached.

I buy a ST to help us get the best players we can afford. Same as why I give to HSL.

If giving us all a free strip (or whatever) means we can't finance signing Leigh Griffiths, for example, that would be ****ing stupid.

[hibee]

Amused that people think Hibs are "taking liberties" or whatever.

We still have big costs to cover, and £2m insurance (only 10% collected) won't fill the hole of lost away ends and hospitality for a season.

We have been thanked multiple times for our support this season.

Any assumption that thanking us somehow means we are "entitled" to some money off or whatever for next season doesn't make any financial sense.......unless you want us to go backwards.

If we are now in a better position than most clubs, then let's capitalise on it, pump cash into the club and hopefully get trophies.

I’d imagine legally they will have to offer a refund of some sort but will be hoping very few people take them up on it. I know a season ticket purchase is usually a sign of loyalty to a club and most of us won’t take a refund but at the end of the day people have paid for something they didn’t receive. We’ve all demanded refunds for holidays etc so the club won’t be exempt from these requests if they get any.

[Sir David Gray]

Oh I knew that would be the case and thought twice about posting. I bet I wasn’t the only one as I knew there’d be a backlash from those that think the club can do no wrong.

I agree with pretty much everything you have said, I'm glad you did post what you have done.

[tamig]

You make some fair points - that’s what “they” want us to think instead so they don’t need to do any additional work to generate revenue.

Promise (or at least set expectations) that they’d reward loyalty for last season - nothing.

Promise an enhanced TV package for the current season - nothing.

Charge extra for seats based on where they are in the ground. Not their fault no one can sit in them but no extra benefit for doing so. Not even a mention of it. Or a thank you.

Instead they charge more to renew using the 11 month payment plan.

As GD says, the club needs cash just to continue functioning. If they start discounting ST prices things will start to creak. Would you be happy if you got a tenner knocked off your ST renewal or a free pen and a lucky bag if it was at the expense of us being able to sign better quality?

Since RG arrived, the commercial side has picked up hugely. Look at all the new partners we've brought on board. There will be some financial benefits from those but probably not enough to plug any ST funding gaps.

And the payment plan - think its 10 months rather than 11 - is an external arrangement. Are you expecting the club to cover the cost of your interest? Maybe you are based on your other responses.

As for the bit in bold, what are you expecting from the club here? The benefit of paying for a more expensive seat is you get a better view surely? What do want thanked for?

[Danderhall Hibs]

As GD says, the club needs cash just to continue functioning. If they start discounting ST prices things will start to creak. Would you be happy if you got a tenner knocked off your ST renewal or a free pen and a lucky bag if it was at the expense of us being able to sign better quality?

Since RG arrived, the commercial side has picked up hugely. Look at all the new partners we've brought on board. There will be some financial benefits from those but probably not enough to plug any ST funding gaps.

And the payment plan - think its 10 months rather than 11 - is an external arrangement. Are you expecting the club to cover the cost of your interest? Maybe you are based on your other responses.

As for the bit in bold, what are you expecting from the club here? The benefit of paying for a more expensive seat is you get a better view surely? What do want thanked for?

Is it 10 months? Still the same - there’s been no interest in the past but now even in the current situation they’re adding this on.

We didn’t get to sit in the seats last season so no benefit received. Bronze received the same as Gold. Maybe they should bill the bronze holders for the difference.

[green day]

Is it 10 months? Still the same - there’s been no interest in the past but now even in the current situation they’re adding this on.

We didn’t get to sit in the seats last season so no benefit received. Bronze received the same as Gold. Maybe they should bill the bronze holders for the difference.

If it bothers you that much, don't buy one, just watch the games you want in the cheapest seats you can get. Nobody is twisting your arm mate.

[Danderhall Hibs]

If it bothers you that much, don't buy one, just watch the games you want in the cheapest seats you can get. Nobody is twisting your arm mate.

Genuinely considering this mate - 4 season tickets is a costly business. I’m sure the club aren’t fussy either.

[WhileTheChief..]

You make some fair points - that’s what “they” want us to think instead so they don’t need to do any additional work to generate revenue.

Promise (or at least set expectations) that they’d reward loyalty for last season - nothing.

Promise an enhanced TV package for the current season - nothing.

Charge extra for seats based on where they are in the ground. Not their fault no one can sit in them but no extra benefit for doing so. Not even a mention of it. Or a thank you.

Instead they charge more to renew using the 11 month payment plan.

Don’t see anything wrong with what you’ve posted here.

You’ve not asked for anything back and will pay more than you did last year so it seems a fair enough discussion to have.

[jeffers]

Don’t see anything wrong with what you’ve posted here.

You’ve not asked for anything back and will pay more than you did last year so it seems a fair enough discussion to have.

I agree with Danderhall Hibs as well.

[dp00]

The way I see it there looking for the fans to spend more money (if we take the interest payment option) despite us not seeing a live game this season & it’s unlikely all season ticket holders will get to every single game next season.... So the club need to think of something to get us to spend our money. They possibly need to speculate to accumulate

There are however things they could do which wouldn’t cost a great deal on money

- Prize draws for each game for upgraded tickets , free pies , free pints in behind the goals, signed match ball, signed match strip there are loads of things that could have massive impact vs little cost

Take a family of 4 as an example, they could be looking at forking out £1500 and potentially only get to see 5/6 games ? With the rest on Hibs TV. Your asking a lot of loyalty to get someone to do that opposed to signing up for one adult and getting a Hibs TV log they can all use.

There was mention of match programs, extra Hibs tv content etc at beginning of this season however I’ve seen none sure someone can maybe correct me if wrong

The club have been pretty good in terms of thanking the fans to an extent however that could be said for all the clubs , our content output vs others tho has been terrible. I’ve not really seen any difference personally

[matty_f]

I agree with Danderhall Hibs as well.

It’s a legitimate point - i raised it on the AGM episode Longbangers did, and had sort of talked myself out of it by the time I was done.

I’d have liked Hibs to have considered making it blanket prices across the ground for this coming season. I bought Gold tickets last season and (accepting nobody could do anything about it) got no difference from having bought a Bronze ticket.

I don’t mind, in the grand scheme of things I’ve kept a good seat and can renew it again this season, but Hibs could have said “ok, we couldn’t give you what you paid for last season, so we’ll park it this season and once we’ll go back to that pricing from next again season “

To me, that wouldn’t have put any outlay on the club, there’d be a bit of a drop in income but I think folk would have been satisfied with that resolution. It essentially swaps pricing for this current season where we couldn’t attend and get the benefit of the better seats, with next when we can - like we’ve paid in advance, if you like.


All that said, i get the folly in giving Hibs cash with one hand and then limiting the income with the other, and so the conclusion that i generally come to is that the money for this season is already spent (both by me and by Hibs) and so I’m happy to write it off, understanding what it means to the club.

I do think we need to deliver on the promises to folk renewing this season though.

[3pm]

What's the hold up? Is it further discussions with the government?

[weecounty hibby]

I bought ST'S for me and my son for years. Last season I didn't want a refund, this season I don't want a refund or any special treatment. Call me a happy clapper or whatever but I will buy again for next season even knowing that we may still have restrictions in place. I'm not sure what folk think Hibs have done wrong in any of this ****show of the last 15 months or so. I'm glad that my ST and everyone else's has managed to keep Hibs going and actually doing pretty well to be honest.

[green day]

I bought ST'S for me and my son for years. Last season I didn't want a refund, this season I don't want a refund or any special treatment. Call me a happy clapper or whatever but I will buy again for next season even knowing that we may still have restrictions in place. I'm not sure what folk think Hibs have done wrong in any of this ****show of the last 15 months or so. I'm glad that my ST and everyone else's has managed to keep Hibs going and actually doing pretty well to be honest.

Ditto

[hibbysam]

I bought ST'S for me and my son for years. Last season I didn't want a refund, this season I don't want a refund or any special treatment. Call me a happy clapper or whatever but I will buy again for next season even knowing that we may still have restrictions in place. I'm not sure what folk think Hibs have done wrong in any of this ****show of the last 15 months or so. I'm glad that my ST and everyone else's has managed to keep Hibs going and actually doing pretty well to be honest.

Im like this, however was a little pissed off about the HibsTv content. Was supposed to be far more content through the week etc yet all we really got were the interview that were widely available on YouTube. Was a fairly quick win that the club failed massively with.

[matty_f]

Im like this, however was a little pissed off about the HibsTv content. Was supposed to be far more content through the week etc yet all we really got were the interview that were widely available on YouTube. Was a fairly quick win that the club failed massively with.

I think that’s fair. I get the restricted access to players etc because of Covid but at the same time, you see fan created content out regularly.

If I take Longbangers as an example, we put out 3 episodes a week usually, among that player interviews (or ex-players) for the cost of a Zoom subscription.

I don’t want a refund, wouldn’t think of asking for one and I’ll renew as soon as the tickets are available to do so, but there were definitely some of the “we’ll make it up to you” promises that fell short when it came to it, some unavoidable and totally understandable, others less so.

[Steve88]

Black swan event. Perfectly content/understanding handing over my money to Hibs and not seeing them in person.

My reward? Pole position for EUROPE and still in the Scottish Cup - Continued progress in either of these brings in extra revenue therefore reinvested in the squad to pull further away from Aberdeen/hearts..

My only fear is Hibs TV will not be able to screen the EUROPA games because of some bureaucratic SFA/FIFA clause

[Frazerbob]

Is it 10 months? Still the same - there’s been no interest in the past but now even in the current situation they’re adding this on.

We didn’t get to sit in the seats last season so no benefit received. Bronze received the same as Gold. Maybe they should bill the bronze holders for the difference.

The ten month plan in recent seasons was also with an external lender (Zebra Finance) and there was interest, however it was paid by the club. So essentially the club got less money for ST's bought using the payment plan.

[MrRobot]

The benefits that people seem to expect will be a better team on the pitch and hopefully more success :agree:

[jeffers]

It’s a legitimate point - i raised it on the AGM episode Longbangers did, and had sort of talked myself out of it by the time I was done.

I’d have liked Hibs to have considered making it blanket prices across the ground for this coming season. I bought Gold tickets last season and (accepting nobody could do anything about it) got no difference from having bought a Bronze ticket.

I don’t mind, in the grand scheme of things I’ve kept a good seat and can renew it again this season, but Hibs could have said “ok, we couldn’t give you what you paid for last season, so we’ll park it this season and once we’ll go back to that pricing from next again season “

To me, that wouldn’t have put any outlay on the club, there’d be a bit of a drop in income but I think folk would have been satisfied with that resolution. It essentially swaps pricing for this current season where we couldn’t attend and get the benefit of the better seats, with next when we can - like we’ve paid in advance, if you like.


All that said, i get the folly in giving Hibs cash with one hand and then limiting the income with the other, and so the conclusion that i generally come to is that the money for this season is already spent (both by me and by Hibs) and so I’m happy to write it off, understanding what it means to the club.

I do think we need to deliver on the promises to folk renewing this season though.

Good post and I like your suggestion, I’d certainly have been happy with that. I accepted when I bought my ticket it was possibly going to just be a donation. It still doesn’t stop me feeling like the club are taking our loyalty for granted though and promises of additional benefits for season ticket holders are really empty ones IMO.

I thought dp00 made some excellent points/suggestions in his post too. How hard would it be for example to do some draws for signed tops/balls ?

[andudare2]

You make some fair points - that’s what “they” want us to think instead so they don’t need to do any additional work to generate revenue.

Promise (or at least set expectations) that they’d reward loyalty for last season - nothing.

Promise an enhanced TV package for the current season - nothing.

Charge extra for seats based on where they are in the ground. Not their fault no one can sit in them but no extra benefit for doing so. Not even a mention of it. Or a thank you.

Instead they charge more to renew using the 11 month payment plan.
Would it not be the Finance provider who is charging more?

[hibee]

Would it not be the Finance provider who is charging more?

I believe they’ve always charged with Hibs picking up the bill.

[marinello59]

I believe they’ve always charged with Hibs picking up the bill.

Aye Hibs paid the interest so you effectively got a discount.

[green day]

Aye Hibs paid the interest so you effectively got a discount.

So Hibs paid the interest of others which means schmucks like me who paid up front lost out? I for one am outraged.

I demand..............something

Are there any of those pens left?????

[Keith_M]

As it turns out, it was the worst possible time for Hibs to have introduced pricing categories for Season Tickets, instead if having them all one price.

I'm not one of the people affected but I thought the club should maybe have parked that for season 21/22.


I can see that it's a difficult argument, though, as there are others (myself included) who bought multiple STs and ended up sitting at home watching the games on TV, so didn't exactly get our money's worth either

[Danderhall Hibs]

Would it not be the Finance provider who is charging more?

If the interest levels are the same then it’s hibs passing on the cost.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Aye Hibs paid the interest so you effectively got a discount.

No discount - season ticket cost the same as everyone else. Just the interest got covered so instead of paying more than everyone else we paid the same.

[JohnMcM]

No discount - season ticket cost the same as everyone else. Just the interest got covered so instead of paying more than everyone else we paid the same.

Have a look at your PM’s.

[hibee-boys]

For those struggling to sign up to the interest free Hibs repayment plan and don’t want to pay interest to a loan provider there are 0% credit card for purchases out there, as long as you usually repay within a year. Might help those who want to spread payments over a year.......just a thought.

[danhibees1875]

As it turns out, it was the worst possible time for Hibs to have introduced pricing categories for Season Tickets, instead if having them all one price.

I'm not one of the people affected but I thought the club should maybe have parked that for season 21/22.


I can see that it's a difficult argument, though, as there are others (myself included) who bought multiple STs and ended up sitting at home watching the games on TV, so didn't exactly get our money's worth either

The pricing structure was a victim of unfortunate timing. I can see what they were trying to do - although flawed even then as people could in theory buy bronze and pick and empty seat but Hibs can only do so much to discourage that sort of behaviour.

However given the circumstances I think Hibs could have had an early "renewal period" for next year that allowed 20/21 ST holders to rebook their same seats at any level for the price of bronze. I think that would reflect the reality that everyone got the same package last year and not really cost the club much money but would be a good gesture.

I appreciate I'm coming to that with a chunk of bias so may have missed something as to why that wouldn't work.

[BlackSheep]

I’m struggling to get a handle on what exactly is being proposed by hibs.... ?

Trying to piece it together but the one thing I keep seeing is mention of not getting to every hone game next year.... where has this been written by hibs?

Or am I doing 2+2=5

[danhibees1875]

I’m struggling to get a handle on what exactly is being proposed by hibs.... ?

Trying to piece it together but the one thing I keep seeing is mention of not getting to every hone game next year.... where has this been written by hibs?

Or am I doing 2+2=5

I've not seen it mentioned by Hibs but there's certainly no guarantee people will get to every home game next year. It's just too early to tell what the situation will be on stadia and events by the time the season starts (July?).

[Pretty Boy]

I'll be holding off on renewing this year. I want to start taking my daughter so will wait until renewals are complete and then try and move to the FF lower.

I didn't take a refund last year, renewed this year and don't really expect anything next year. At the end of the day we are customers to Hibs and customers with a brand loyalty other companies can only dream of at that. I don't really view buying a ST with little added benefits as some grand gesture of support. I' m doing it because I want to go to the football again.

[Pretty Boy]

The ten month plan in recent seasons was also with an external lender (Zebra Finance) and there was interest, however it was paid by the club. So essentially the club got less money for ST's bought using the payment plan.

It's worth noting here that the cost to Hibs for that was and is absolutely minimal.

It was used as an argument before that those who paid up front were 'better' supporters (I'm not suggesting you are doing that). I asked the question of a board member at Hibs when I got the chance and it was confirmed the cost was uner £10 per ST to the club.

[CockneyRebel]

I'll be holding off on renewing this year. I want to start taking my daughter so will wait until renewals are complete and then try and move to the FF lower.

I didn't take a refund last year, renewed this year and don't really expect anything next year. At the end of the day we are customers to Hibs and customers with a brand loyalty other companies can only dream of at that. I don't really view buying a ST with little added benefits as some grand gesture of support. I' m doing it because I want to go to the football again.


Same here but also have a great seat and would probably never get it back again. Took me about 20 years to get it.

[CMurdoch]

It's worth noting here that the cost to Hibs for that was and is absolutely minimal.

It was used as an argument before that those who paid up front were 'better' supporters (I'm not suggesting you are doing that). I asked the question of a board member at Hibs when I got the chance and it was confirmed the cost was uner £10 per ST to the club.

For ease of calculation let's say 10,000 season tickets are purchased on the installment plan at a cost of £10 each to Hibs. That is a cost of £100,000 every season. £1 million every 10 years which is significant.

[Pretty Boy]

For ease of calculation let's say 10,000 season tickets are purchased on the installment plan at a cost of £10 each to Hibs. That is a cost of £100,000 every season. £1 million every 10 years which is significant.

What would the cost be in lost sales if there was no interest free payment plan?

That's hypothetical of course but Hibs will have done the sums. As I said above; Hibs are a business, we are customers. Everything is calculated to ensure the best performance of the business. It's no different from buying a sofa on a 0% APR plan, all the costs are factored in to the price of the product at point of sale.

[McD]

For ease of calculation let's say 10,000 season tickets are purchased on the installment plan at a cost of £10 each to Hibs. That is a cost of £100,000 every season. £1 million every 10 years which is significant.



its not really a cost, it’s less of money coming in, in real terms.


those 10000 season tickets are worth say 3.6 million (£360*10000], so the interest from the instalment plan means Hibs still get 3.5 million from the exercise.

there will be a number of Hibs fans who took up the offer of the installment plan because they couldn’t afford the season ticket otherwise. So if some of those people now feel unable to take it up do to the additional cost, it’s not saved Hibs that £10 per head, it’s cost them the full money of the ticket minus a tenner, less money coming in

[CMurdoch]

I understand that and am not suggesting Hibs do it any differently and it is a great and necessary scheme for those that need it. However, I do know a lot of guys who use it, who have no need to. A few of them even contribute to HSL.

[Since90+2]

For ease of calculation let's say 10,000 season tickets are purchased on the installment plan at a cost of £10 each to Hibs. That is a cost of £100,000 every season. £1 million every 10 years which is significant.

I understand why you are doing for ease of calculation but it won't be anything like 10,000. Might not even be half that.

So its probably £50,000 or less but as has been pointed out Hibs would likely overall lose money if they didn't offer this as you would have more people not able to afford a one off purchase.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I understand why you are doing for ease of calculation but it won't be anything like 10,000. Might not even be half that.

So its probably £50,000 or less but as has been pointed out Hibs would likely overall lose money if they didn't offer this as you would have more people not able to afford a one off purchase.

Or maybe they could make it interest free for those spending over a certain amount? Maybe £700+ or something?

[Andy74]

I understand why you are doing for ease of calculation but it won't be anything like 10,000. Might not even be half that.

So its probably £50,000 or less but as has been pointed out Hibs would likely overall lose money if they didn't offer this as you would have more people not able to afford a one off purchase.

They could still offer instalments but the customer pays the interest. Probably another £1 every payment. That shouldn’t put too many off being able to afford it.

[Danderhall Hibs]

They could still offer instalments but the customer pays the interest. Probably another £1 every payment. That shouldn’t put too many off being able to afford it.

But it does increase the cost to the customer/fan/extortionee.

[SaulGoodman]

When can we renew?

[Hibeewilly]

When can we renew?
I'm wondering the same thing Saul......ever since the information was given on Edinburgh Live yesterday I've been checking the official site but nothing seems to have appeared.....not even an update from Hibs on the matter

[weecounty hibby]

But it does increase the cost to the customer/fan/extortionee.

No one is being forced to buy an ST so no extortion involved. You don't help your argument when you say things like that

[andudare2]

If the interest levels are the same then it’s hibs passing on the cost.
Passing on costs for a purchase of item over 10 months,an item Hibs used to pay the interest on ,cant see what the problem is with this,or did people complain when club was paying interest for them,wouldn't think so and as were now living in unprecedented times to me the deal on offer is fair,buy something on credit,expect to pay more.

[Danderhall Hibs]

No one is being forced to buy an ST so no extortion involved. You don't help your argument when you say things like that

I know - I was quoting Andy - he used the word for the purpose of his argument.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Passing on costs for a purchase of item over 10 months,an item Hibs used to pay the interest on ,cant see what the problem is with this,or did people complain when club was paying interest for them,wouldn't think so and as were now living in unprecedented times to me the deal on offer is fair,buy something on credit,expect to pay more.

I’m not sure if I’ve picked you up properly but basically the problem is that in these unprecedented times the club is rewarding loyalty by charging more.

[Andy74]

I’m not sure if I’ve picked you up properly but basically the problem is that in these unprecedented times the club is rewarding loyalty by charging more.

If you are looking at everything through the lens of being rewarded for something then I suppose you could see it that way.

When the club needs all the money it can get I think it would probably be a very sensible decision not to continue to pay people's interest for them. I haven't worked it out so I'll go on the £10 cost total that was mentioned earlier. It is a fair enough business decision that purchasers won't really be put off for such a small amount and it is £50,000 or whatever total that the club has previously paid out for this that it doesn't really have to.

Rather than looking back the decision is whether that total cost is currently worth it to you to buy the product they are selling. It either is or it isn't.

[Danderhall Hibs]

If you are looking at everything through the lens of being rewarded for something then I suppose you could see it that way.

When the club needs all the money it can get I think it would probably be a very sensible decision not to continue to pay people's interest for them. I haven't worked it out so I'll go on the £10 cost total that was mentioned earlier. It is a fair enough business decision that purchasers won't really be put off for such a small amount and it is £50,000 or whatever total that the club has previously paid out for this that it doesn't really have to.

Rather than looking back the decision is whether that total cost is currently worth it to you to buy the product they are selling. It either is or it isn't.

I know it’s very much a like it or lump it situation - that’s coming across loud and clear from many. I’m not sure businesses work like that but am also aware a football club is only a business in some situations.

Hopefully they’ve read this thread as part of their testing and are considering how they can keep loyal customers on board - maybe by setting a minimum spend for no interest charge as suggested earlier.

[Andy74]

I know it’s very much a like it or lump it situation - that’s coming across loud and clear from many. I’m not sure businesses work like that but am also aware a football club is only a business in some situations.

Hopefully they’ve read this thread as part of their testing and are considering how they can keep loyal customers on board - maybe by setting a minimum spend for no interest charge as suggested earlier.

I'd be surprised if they actually do this - didn't see the 'leak' but would understand if they did.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I'd be surprised if they actually do this - didn't see the 'leak' but would understand if they did.

It can’t be an accident that they released the details for a short while prior to launch? It’s not the first time it’s happened so suggests either deliberate or incompetence.

[andudare2]

I’m not sure if I’ve picked you up properly but basically the problem is that in these unprecedented times the club is rewarding loyalty by charging more.understand where you are coming from,however i notice you make no comment on when the club absored the interest, unfortunately things are different from when they did this,and also does not detract from the fact that usually when people buy on credit they do pay more.End of the day its up to the individual whether to buy or not but club although it benefits with the amount that are sold this way,are not forcing anyone to buy.

[Danderhall Hibs]

understand where you are coming from,however i notice you make no comment on when the club absored the interest, unfortunately things are different from when they did this,and also does not detract from the fact that usually when people buy on credit they do pay more.End of the day its up to the individual whether to buy or not but club although it benefits with the amount that are sold this way,are not forcing anyone to buy.

I’m not sure what you mean but the club “absorbed” the interest last year as well as in previous years. They’ve got insurance money on the way and could easily continue to absorb this in the same way they have before and during “these unprecedented times”.

[green day]

I’m not sure what you mean but the club “absorbed” the interest last year as well as in previous years. They’ve got insurance money on the way and could easily continue to absorb this in the same way they have before and during “these unprecedented times”.

And you know this how?

[Danderhall Hibs]

And you know this how?

Just the accounts and that. Insurance payouts.

And Andy says it’s only a tenner a head.

[Chorley Hibee]

It can’t be an accident that they released the details for a short while prior to launch? It’s not the first time it’s happened so suggests either deliberate or incompetence.

I think it's deliberate, in much the same way the UK government drip feed announcements to the press beforehand. Testing the water before announcing it officially.

[Eyrie]

Just the accounts and that. Insurance payouts.

And Andy says it’s only a tenner a head.

If it's only a tenner a head then it's not a factor in deciding whether or not to renew because 99% of season ticket holders would renew if the price was £10 higher.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I think it's deliberate, in much the same way the UK government drip feed announcements to the press beforehand. Testing the water before announcing it officially.

:agree:

Hope they’re taking my comments on board.

[andudare2]

I’m not sure what you mean but the club “absorbed” the interest last year as well as in previous years. They’ve got insurance money on the way and could easily continue to absorb this in the same way they have before and during “these unprecedented times”.

Far as im aware Hibs paid the interest on season tickets bought on finance deals,so if this is so then to me Hibs paying the interest is to absorb the extra cost this would have been incurred by fans buying this way.As for comment regarding insurance payment being used to keep things same as previous seasons,then surely this just means they would be losing out on something they had the foresight to take out,basically just moving 1 loss to another.If your that p,d off then end of the day you have the right not to buy or do you normally expect to pay no interest when you buy on credit,wish to god this was so as would have saved a fortune throughout time if it was.

[Danderhall Hibs]

If it's only a tenner a head then it's not a factor in deciding whether or not to renew because 99% of season ticket holders would renew if the price was £10 higher.

They should bill everyone then.

[green day]

They should bill everyone then.

They do. It's called the season ticket renewal. Some people pay immediately, some pay on their own credit card, and some used the interest free terms that cost Hibs money.

Are you suggesting that other Hibs fans should subsidise you?

[Billy Whizz]

They do. It's called the season ticket renewal. Some people pay immediately, some pay on their own credit card, and some used the interest free terms that cost Hibs money.

Are you suggesting that other Hibs fans should subsidise you?

To be fair Hibs have been great last few years, with payment plans not occurring an additional cost on top of ticket price
Interest rates are really low just now, so it will only be a few pounds more overall

Wonder what the catering prices will be for next season😀

[Danderhall Hibs]

They do. It's called the season ticket renewal. Some people pay immediately, some pay on their own credit card, and some used the interest free terms that cost Hibs money.

Are you suggesting that other Hibs fans should subsidise you?

No. And I’m not sure why folk keep trying to put words into my mouth/posts.

[Eyrie]

They should bill everyone then.

Why?

If Hibs didn't offer a finance option, I'd need an overdraft or loan to buy my ticket and that would mean I pay a lot more for my ticket than someone who is lucky enough to have the spare cash.

[Eyrie]

No. And I’m not sure why folk keep trying to put words into my mouth/posts.

Why else do you want every Hibs fan to pay more so that you don't have to pay any interest?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Why?

If Hibs didn't offer a finance option, I'd need an overdraft or loan to buy my ticket and that would mean I pay a lot more for my ticket than someone who is lucky enough to have the spare cash.

You said 99% of people would renew if it was a tenner more expensive. May as well do it then?

Who cares how you fund it? Not mine or hibs’ problem. Don’t renew if you don’t want to.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Why else do you want every Hibs fan to pay more so that you don't have to pay any interest?

I don’t. Try again.

[Eyrie]

You said 99% of people would renew if it was a tenner more expensive. May as well do it then?

Who cares how you fund it? Not mine or hibs’ problem. Don’t renew if you don’t want to.

It's not Hibs problem how a fan funds their ticket, so it doesn't matter if the finance option offered by Hibs has a small interest charge.

I'm sure you'll be happy to pony up when the time comes. I will be.

[green day]

They should bill everyone then.
This related to the interest that Hibs used to suck up.


Are you suggesting that other Hibs fans should subsidise you?
reasonable question from a brilliant poster.

No. And I’m not sure why folk keep trying to put words into my mouth/posts.

Ipso facto............


You said 99% of people would renew if it was a tenner more expensive. May as well do it then?

Who cares how you fund it? Not mine or hibs’ problem. Don’t renew if you don’t want to.

Are you just trying to reel people in?
You are all over the place......one minute moaning about Hibs charging the interest, next telling people its not Hibs problem.

Make up your mind.

[WhileTheChief..]

Why you giving him such a hard time?

Hibs used to cover the interest costs, now they’re not, meaning that some folk will pay more.

They’re allowed to comment or have a wee moan surely?

”no one’s forcing you to buy” is a cheap shot put down. Imagine if the club came out with that line when they announce ST prices!

He buys 4 STs a year and probably gives Hibs a lot more cash than most of us posting on here do in a season.

[Danderhall Hibs]

This related to the interest that Hibs used to suck up.

reasonable question from a brilliant poster.


Ipso facto............



Are you just trying to reel people in?
You are all over the place......one minute moaning about Hibs charging the interest, next telling people its not Hibs problem.

Make up your mind.

I was throwing the phrases back at him - sorry if you can’t keep up :wink:

[Danderhall Hibs]

Why you giving him such a hard time?

Hibs used to cover the interest costs, now they’re not, meaning that some folk will pay more.

They’re allowed to comment or have a wee moan surely?

”no one’s forcing you to buy” is a cheap shot put down. Imagine if the club came out with that line when they announce ST prices!

He buys 4 STs a year and probably gives Hibs a lot more cash than most of us posting on here do in a season.

Thanks mate - that’s the point. Hibs said they were freezing prices; they’re not doing that for everyone. In fact they’re hitting those that pay the most (multiple tickets) with an extra charge.

I knew I’d get it in the neck from the “don’t buy it then” lot.

[green day]

Why you giving him such a hard time?

Hibs used to cover the interest costs, now they’re not, meaning that some folk will pay more.

They’re allowed to comment or have a wee moan surely?

”no one’s forcing you to buy” is a cheap shot put down. Imagine if the club came out with that line when they announce ST prices!

He buys 4 STs a year and probably gives Hibs a lot more cash than most of us posting on here do in a season.

So is having a pop at Hibs for not taking on the costs of the interest.............then - laughably - suggesting that other posters should shoulder the bill.

..........and then when he gets called on it, he just says backtracks.

Thats why I am having a go.

How many STs someone buys has no bearing on me calling them out when I think they are spouting mince.

[Danderhall Hibs]

So is having a pop at Hibs for not taking on the costs of the interest.............then - laughably - suggesting that other posters should shoulder the bill.

..........and then when he gets called on it, he just says backtracks.

Thats why I am having a go.

How many STs someone buys has no bearing on me calling them out when I think they are spouting mince.

It’s only laughable cos I never said that.

[Eyrie]

So is having a pop at Hibs for not taking on the costs of the interest.............then - laughably - suggesting that other posters should shoulder the bill.


It’s only laughable cos I never said that.

Except you did say that, when I pointed out that paying interest would only ad a tenner to the cost of a ticket and you responded that everyone should pay that interest charge regardless of whether they used the finance option -


You said 99% of people would renew if it was a tenner more expensive. May as well do it then?

Who cares how you fund it? Not mine or hibs’ problem. Don’t renew if you don’t want to.

And you are the one saying to the rest of us “don’t buy it then”.


Hibs said they were freezing prices; they’re not doing that for everyone. In fact they’re hitting those that pay the most (multiple tickets) with an extra charge.

I knew I’d get it in the neck from the “don’t buy it then” lot.

Hibs have frozen prices for everyone. The only change is personal to those who want to finance rather than pay up front, and according to the poster Danderhall Hibs who cares how they fund it? It's not his problem and not Hibs problem. Maybe you should have a go at him for not sympathising with your particular circumstances?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Except you did say that, when I pointed out that paying interest would only ad a tenner to the cost of a ticket and you responded that everyone should pay that interest charge regardless of whether they used the finance option -



And you are the one saying to the rest of us “don’t buy it then”.



Hibs have frozen prices for everyone. The only change is personal to those who want to finance rather than pay up front, and according to the poster Danderhall Hibs who cares how they fund it? It's not his problem and not Hibs problem. Maybe you should have a go at him for not sympathising with your particular circumstances?

You’ve just clarified you don’t understand my posts.

[WhileTheChief..]

So is having a pop at Hibs for not taking on the costs of the interest.............then - laughably - suggesting that other posters should shoulder the bill.

..........and then when he gets called on it, he just says backtracks.

Thats why I am having a go.

How many STs someone buys has no bearing on me calling them out when I think they are spouting mince.

But Hibs, or other posters like me as want to put it, used to foot the bill anyways.

He’s not asking for special treatment, just for the status quo to have been maintained. It’s not really having a pop at the club.

If we take things to the extreme, then anybody buying during the early bird initiative is ripping the club off!

I’m ragin that some of my full price ST will subsidise the freeloaders that buy early!

[Pretty Boy]

But Hibs, or other posters like me as want to put it, used to foot the bill anyways.

He’s not asking for special treatment, just for the status quo to have been maintained. It’s not really having a pop at the club.

If we take things to the extreme, then anybody buying during the early bird initiative is ripping the club off!

I’m ragin that some of my full price ST will subsidise the freeloaders that buy early!

I know you have exaggerated for effect but I agree with the point you are making.

When you get into the territory of talking about 'subsidising' others you are entering dodgy territory. In the same way I don't view my tax as 'subsidising' others neither do I view my full price ST as subsidising children, students, ambulant carers or whoever else.

I buy my ticket in a way that suits me, for me. I see that as fitting into an overall business plan that Hibs have to ensure the maximum number of STs are sold. Be that encouraging fans of the future or allowing people to buy who otherwise may not have been able to by offering a competitive payment plan. If that changes then so be it, I have never 'subsidised' anyone though.

[Ronniekirk]

I could pY up front no problem but took out the interest free option last season and would of done so again but I would like to know how many fans will be allowed into games and how this is going to work
I just do t see as getting 10 thousand in stadium at start of season given how cautious they are being at Hampden fir Euros


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[Baldy Foghorn]

I think it was incompetence putting it out there, as reading parts of it on Edinburgh live, they either picked thigs up wrongly, or Hibs didn't proof read before it went out.

The thing is RG said at AGM there was a price freeze, like it was a great thing he was giving us.

We've paid best part of £400 to watch games on a laptop or TV. Not great IMO

[McD]

No. And I’m not sure why folk keep trying to put words into my mouth/posts.


dunno why you’re getting such a hard time, you’ve made an accurate observation (this payment method will now mean a higher cost overall than it did previously), and correctly provided the context of Hibs commenting in the past at recognising/acknowledging/rewarding the commitment fans have put in under trying circumstances, and how these 2 things are contradictory

[matty_f]

I think it was incompetence putting it out there, as reading parts of it on Edinburgh live, they either picked thigs up wrongly, or Hibs didn't proof read before it went out.

The thing is RG said at AGM there was a price freeze, like it was a great thing he was giving us.

We've paid best part of £400 to watch games on a laptop or TV. Not great IMO
The £400 goes towards having something to watch as well, though.

I agree with Danderhall, you can’t say it’s a prize freeze then charge people more, regardless of how the extra is arrived at, it’s not a price freeze.

[hibbysam]

The £400 goes towards having something to watch as well, though.

I agree with Danderhall, you can’t say it’s a prize freeze then charge people more, regardless of how the extra is arrived at, it’s not a price freeze.

Hibs aren’t charging more though. The price of the season ticket is frozen. The interest is for the finance company for choosing a method of payment that has interest attached. All Hibs are doing is saying ‘we’re not paying that for you anymore’.

[B.H.F.C]

Only gripe for me is the tiered pricing. I think that should be done away with until such time as you can guarantee everyone is getting in. Or, if you’re asking some people to pay more, you need to give them an actual additional benefit. Not the opportunity to attend a strip launch that probably won’t happen.

No issues with them stopping paying interest, seems a very obvious saving for them to make in the current climate.

[Tully]

So when can we buy them I have the money to buy my 4 now

[seanshow]

So when can we buy them I have the money to buy my 4 now


I would suggest you Will be able to exactly one week after they accidentally put the info live on the website, ie the morning after we play livy at ER.

[Tully]

Good

[matty_f]

Hibs aren’t charging more though. The price of the season ticket is frozen. The interest is for the finance company for choosing a method of payment that has interest attached. All Hibs are doing is saying ‘we’re not paying that for you anymore’.

The price has gone up though, what you pay last season will be less than what you pay next season.

A price freeze would mean you pay the same, it doesn’t matter how the increase is arrived at, it’s more expensive.

[hibbysam]

The price has gone up though, what you pay last season will be less than what you pay next season.

A price freeze would mean you pay the same, it doesn’t matter how the increase is arrived at, it’s more expensive.

Hibs have frozen prices. That’s the argument and that’s the fact. The season ticket and the interest are two totally separate things. Buying a season ticket doesn’t necessarily result in paying interest. The season ticket is exactly the same price as last year.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Hibs have frozen prices. That’s the argument and that’s the fact. The season ticket and the interest are two totally separate things. Buying a season ticket doesn’t necessarily result in paying interest. The season ticket is exactly the same price as last year.

The cost of buying season tickets in my circumstance is more expensive. It can be spun however you like but as you say that’s the fact.

[truehibernian]

After the year we have all had, and the fact Hibs are part of what's kept me sane, I'll pay whatever to get a season ticket next season, especially with European football (again), exciting plans via the AGM, and the whole club looking far more rosy. Four derbies into the mix, I'd say it's a great time to invest in one if those have the means to :aok:

[hibbysam]

The cost of buying season tickets in my circumstance is more expensive. It can be spun however you like but as you say that’s the fact.

It’s not being spun though. Hibs made it clear last year that this would be happening, it’s not a surprise. However, the cost of the season ticket hasn’t changed. If you decide to pay it up on finance then you’ll pay interest, that’s the individuals choice.

[Danderhall Hibs]

It’s not being spun though. Hibs made it clear last year that this would be happening, it’s not a surprise. However, the cost of the season ticket hasn’t changed. If you decide to pay it up on finance then you’ll pay interest, that’s the individuals choice.

I didn’t realise they had said they’d do this.

It comes back to the point that the club know folk want to renew so will play on that. Disappointed in the lack of empathy from many though.

[matty_f]

I didn’t realise they had said they’d do this.

It comes back to the point that the club know folk want to renew so will play on that. Disappointed in the lack of empathy from many though.

I don’t recall it either, to be honest.

[hibbysam]

I didn’t realise they had said they’d do this.

It comes back to the point that the club know folk want to renew so will play on that. Disappointed in the lack of empathy from many though.

Empathy for what? Paying an extra £1 per month for your season ticket? To save the club a fairly substantial amount?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Empathy for what? Paying an extra £1 per month for your season ticket? To save the club a fairly substantial amount?

We don’t know how much it is yet. Presumably it’ll depend on how many tickets you buy though, ie the more you buy the more it’ll cost.

Empathy for fans having to pay more after supporting the club through this unprecedented time. Very much a “If it doesn’t impact me I don’t care” attitude.

[matty_f]

We don’t know how much it is yet. Presumably it’ll depend on how many tickets you buy though, ie the more you buy the more it’ll cost.

Empathy for fans having to pay more after supporting the club through this unprecedented time. Very much a “If it doesn’t impact me I don’t care” attitude.
I’m not sure why you’re getting a hard time for it, they said it’s a price freeze, some people will pay more and there’s a question over whether this season is the right time to have people pay more, based on what we’ve just been through.

I don’t think it’s a really outrageous point or even that contentious, to be honest.

[hibbysam]

We don’t know how much it is yet. Presumably it’ll depend on how many tickets you buy though, ie the more you buy the more it’ll cost.

Empathy for fans having to pay more after supporting the club through this unprecedented time. Very much a “If it doesn’t impact me I don’t care” attitude.

It does affect me, or will if that decision comes to pass. Would be similar to me saying your attitude is ‘it does affect me so stuff everyone else who might be ok with it’, but I wouldn’t do that as that would be unfair.

Crazy that everyone isn’t allowed their own opinion.

[Keith_M]

The prices for Season Tickets is the same next season --- Ergo the cost of Season Tickets has been frozen.


Those that want to pay in instalments (which isn't everybody) will now have to pay interest. That's a bit of a bummer for them but surely it doesn't mean the above statement is a lie.

[Danderhall Hibs]

It does affect me, or will if that decision comes to pass. Would be similar to me saying your attitude is ‘it does affect me so stuff everyone else who might be ok with it’, but I wouldn’t do that as that would be unfair.

Crazy that everyone isn’t allowed their own opinion.

You’re allowed an opinion (no one said you weren’t?)I’m allowed to disagree with it and tell you why I think you’re wrong.

Unfortunately it’s been difficult on this thread due to folk not understanding the basic point and some not caring due to it not affecting them.

The “don’t buy one then” argument doesn’t help things - we’re all supposed to be in this together but some are happy for loyal ST holders not to renew rather than the club continue to pay this.

Some even made up it was a tenner in an attempt to diminish the argument.

[Danderhall Hibs]

The prices for Season Tickets is the same next season --- Ergo the cost of Season Tickets has been frozen.


Those that want to pay in instalments (which isn't everybody) will now have to pay interest. That's a bit of a bummer for them but surely it doesn't mean the above statement is a lie.

Alistair Campbell started all this back in the 90s.

[hibbysam]

You’re allowed an opinion (no one said you weren’t?)I’m allowed to disagree with it and tell you why I think you’re wrong.

Unfortunately it’s been difficult on this thread due to folk not understanding the basic point and some not caring due to it not affecting them.

The “don’t buy one then” argument doesn’t help things - we’re all supposed to be in this together but some are happy for loyal ST holders not to renew rather than the club continue to pay this.

Some even made up it was a tenner in an attempt to diminish the argument.

On the interest front, I think it’s 7.75% or was anyway (that’s what’s quoted in last years ST info), that would mean on £400 it would be £31. £3 a month on a 10 month plan. My view is I’d rather we paid that than the club pay that for every single person, costing around 6 figures.

I get it will cost a little more to the person, but Hibs themselves have frozen the price of the season ticket.

I also don’t think £3 per month (if it was that) would stop anyone from renewing, if it became unaffordable because of this I’d probably be questioning whether they should have been paying for one in the first place (in the nicest possible way).

[Danderhall Hibs]

On the interest front, I think it’s 7.75% or was anyway (that’s what’s quoted in last years ST info), that would mean on £400 it would be £31. £3 a month on a 10 month plan. My view is I’d rather we paid that than the club pay that for every single person, costing around 6 figures.

I get it will cost a little more to the person, but Hibs themselves have frozen the price of the season ticket.

I also don’t think £3 per month (if it was that) would stop anyone from renewing, if it became unaffordable because of this I’d probably be questioning whether they should have been paying for one in the first place (in the nicest possible way).

So for my 4 tickets it’d be 30 x 4 - £100-120 is a fair bit more and definitely harder to justify. I paid £90 odd per month last year to be so flippant as to day you can afford that so you can afford £100 odd per month is just crass.

How many use the payment plan? Maybe they should limit it to multi season tickets or interest free only on spend over £x?

Or get a partnership with a better lender who offer rates much lower than 7.75%.

Much more than the tenner that was floated earlier on this thread.

[Iggy Pope]

It does affect me, or will if that decision comes to pass. Would be similar to me saying your attitude is ‘it does affect me so stuff everyone else who might be ok with it’, but I wouldn’t do that as that would be unfair.

Crazy that everyone isn’t allowed their own opinion.

Isn’t that right!

[hibbysam]

So for my 4 tickets it’d be 30 x 4 - £100-120 is a fair bit more and definitely harder to justify. How many use the payment plan? Maybe they should limit it to multi season tickets or interest free only on spend over £x?

Or get a partnership with a better lender who offer rates much lower than 7.75%.
Much more than the tenner that was floated earlier on this thread.

Again, I’ve never had to worry about it before as the club paid it so that value could be well off from me, just trying to piece together from last year.

Are all 4 of your tickets full price adults? That’s another consideration as it wouldn’t be as simple as £30 per ticket. It would be £30 per £400 spend.

I’d also guess a fair number of our support use the instalment plan, but that’s a guess again.

If your extra was around £100, that’s around £10 per month, considering you’d be paying around £150 per month already, is that tenner a tipping point? I guess that’s the question Hibs would need to weigh up.

[Blaster]

Really enjoying the debate between danderhall Hibs and hibbysam. Both are technically correct 😉.

My only contribution is to say you can still get it for the same price as last season. You just need to pay for it up front

For those who genuinely need the instalment option it’s a pest having to pay the interest. However I imagine there are some fans who could have paid up front but chose the payment plan as it was interest free

Not sure Hibs should be paying for it in the latter scenario but impossible to distinguish between the two

[Danderhall Hibs]

Again, I’ve never had to worry about it before as the club paid it so that value could be well off from me, just trying to piece together from last year.

Are all 4 of your tickets full price adults? That’s another consideration as it wouldn’t be as simple as £30 per ticket. It would be £30 per £400 spend.

I’d also guess a fair number of our support use the instalment plan, but that’s a guess again.

If your extra was around £100, that’s around £10 per month, considering you’d be paying around £150 per month already, is that tenner a tipping point? I guess that’s the question Hibs would need to weigh up.

2 adults, 1 student,1 kid so probably closer to the £100.

Now looking at not renewing student as unlikely to make the 15 games or so to break even. May even lose one of the adult seats. We wouldn’t even have discussed this if I wasn’t so irritated at the clubs stance.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Really enjoying the debate between danderhall Hibs and hibbysam. Both are technically correct 😉.

My only contribution is to say you can still get it for the same price as last season. You just need to pay for it up front

For those who genuinely need the instalment option it’s a pest having to pay the interest. However I imagine there are some fans who could have paid up front but chose the payment plan as it was interest free

Not sure Hibs should be paying for it in the latter scenario but impossible to distinguish between the two

It’s good when you get to debate without it turning into someone taking the huff or twisting your words. :greengrin

I agree with what you say - maybe a way round it is to make it for multi purchases only or set a minimum spend to qualify for 0% interest.

[Billy Whizz]

Looking from the outside on this, really think we should have waved the interest for another season. Fans paid their money and got no live football. The lads I take/took, hit the 12 year old bracket, and had another £55 to pay
I’d be surprised if Hibs hadn’t done a deal with the finance company, got back some the interest paid to them

Be interesting to know, how many use the payment plan, and the cost to Hibs for this???

Remember last year with the introduction of tiers etc, some fans got a 10% price increase

[Pretty Boy]

Your ST for years has taken a share of all costs connected to it. We have capable people running the club so they haven't plucked a price out of thin air.

If part of an external cost is now being charged out to some customers then the base cost of your ST is lower but you are being charged the same. In theory we could be expecting a small price decrease if part of those costs are now being passed on to some consumers. The end result of doing that would be Hibs end up with the same figure they had last year if sales are comparable.

That's fanciful though. Hibs will have realised they aren't really in a position to freeze prices as we need more money coming in. By passing on the interest charge to some customers the cost allocation to each ST is less but the basic price remains the same to the customer. There's now more 'profit' per ST to the club, Hibs end up with more money in the coffers whilst still being able to say there is a price freeze. Some customers pay more but that's outwith our hands/only fair/not us charging you.

It's relatively smart from a business and marketing point of view as long as it doesn't see a sizeable decrease in sales.

[hibbysam]

2 adults, 1 student,1 kid so probably closer to the £100.

Now looking at not renewing student as unlikely to make the 15 games or so to break even. May even lose one of the adult seats. We wouldn’t even have discussed this if I wasn’t so irritated at the clubs stance.

I just look at it logically based on what it costs me each month vs what it would cost the club. I can’t afford to fire £400 up front but can certainly afford an extra £3 or whatever it may be each month on top of the regular payment. In turn this means I might help save the club a decent whack of cash which can be spent on the team.

I understand your predicament, but again, when I look at the likes of Hearts pals who were astonished that we got it interest free in the first place, I feel the club have done us a decent service rather than them now hitting us with charges. There was also one year I got rejected by V12 (for something outwith my control) and the club were offering interest free options through the club itself which was a godsend.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I just look at it logically based on what it costs me each month vs what it would cost the club. I can’t afford to fire £400 up front but can certainly afford an extra £3 or whatever it may be each month on top of the regular payment. In turn this means I might help save the club a decent whack of cash which can be spent on the team.

I understand your predicament, but again, when I look at the likes of Hearts pals who were astonished that we got it interest free in the first place, I feel the club have done us a decent service rather than them now hitting us with charges. There was also one year I got rejected by V12 (for something outwith my control) and the club were offering interest free options through the club itself which was a godsend.

Yeah I see that.

Your hearts mates will also be receiving a credit on their ticket for games that were on tv this season so no need to log into the hearts pass.

Other clubs do different things for their fans - we paid our money for last year and got a couple of passing thanks in interviews and that and are now being asked to do the same again but pay a bit more.

[Danderhall Hibs]

It's relatively smart from a business and marketing point of view as long as it doesn't see a sizeable decrease in sales.

Business point of view maybe smarter as they’re able to charge more while saying they’re not.

Marketing wise - are we doing any? Other than leaking the prices a few days early?

[Billy Whizz]

Business point of view maybe smarter as they’re able to charge more while saying they’re not.

Marketing wise - are we doing any? Other than leaking the prices a few days early?

Hibs TV is free, which I currently pay around £80+ per year
However the more Hibs TV subscribers we have, the more advertising we can sell😎
If I see another Carabao advert on HibsPass/Twitter......

[jeffers]

I’ve already made my thoughts clear on paying a higher price this season for the same “return” as someone who has a seat in a bronze category so won’t go over that again. But what the introduction of the seating categories says to me is the club is trying to maximise income, so paying interest on a payment plan doesn’t surprise me.

[Pretty Boy]

Business point of view maybe smarter as they’re able to charge more while saying they’re not.

Marketing wise - are we doing any? Other than leaking the prices a few days early?

I think it's fairly safe to say when we actually release the details rather than the strategic leak we have had so far that 'price freeze' will be pushed to the forefront of the marketing whilst 'interest charge' will be a bit less prominent.

[Billy Whizz]

I think it's fairly safe to say when we actually release the details rather than the strategic leak we have had so far that 'price freeze' will be pushed to the forefront of the marketing whilst 'interest charge' will be a bit less prominent.

Whoever put this up, make a backside of it, and caused friction amongst our great supporters.

PS Killie going to offer a discount to holders who renew

[green day]

Yeah I see that.

Your hearts mates will also be receiving a credit in their ticket for games that were on tv this season so no need to log into the hearts pass.

Other clubs do different things or their fans - we paid our money for last year and couple a couple of passing thanks in interviews and that and are now being asked to do the same again but pay a bit more.

Not quite

They were given the choice of watching games like us this season but if they didnt get 18 home matches (Hearts were banking on a cup run ho ho ho :greengrin) there was the possibility of alternative "value stuff" to make up the diff.

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/alternative-season-ticket-value-package

The only reason for that is because they are in the seaside leagues and have a shorter season and hence fewer home matches to stream than us top division jonnies.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Not quite

They were given the choice of watching games like us this season but if they didnt get 18 home matches (Hearts were banking on a cup run ho ho ho :greengrin) there was the possibility of alternative "value stuff" to make up the diff.

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/alternative-season-ticket-value-package

The only reason for that is because they are in the seaside leagues and have a shorter season and hence fewer home matches to stream than us top division jonnies.

My mate said he gets a credit every time they’re on telly?

[green day]

My mate said he gets a credit every time they’re on telly?

Sounds like he has the wrong end of the stick, but worth asking him to clarify.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Sounds like he has the wrong end of the stick, but worth asking him to clarify.

Not my problem:hilarious

[Juniper Greens]

My mate said he gets a credit every time they’re on telly?

Your mates wrong. Once you logged in to watch one game, you were accepting the fact that it counted as "at tynecastle"

[Danderhall Hibs]

Your mates wrong. Once you logged in to watch one game, you were accepting the fact that it counted as "at tynecastle"

He amazes me - he’s a really intelligent guy but when it comes to hearts he’s totally blinded.

[jeffers]

He amazes me - he’s a really intelligent guy but when it comes to hearts he’s totally blinded.

Seems a bit of a contradiction that. :greengrin

[Siralbertkidd]

After the year we have all had, and the fact Hibs are part of what's kept me sane, I'll pay whatever to get a season ticket next season, especially with European football (again), exciting plans via the AGM, and the whole club looking far more rosy. Four derbies into the mix, I'd say it's a great time to invest in one if those have the means to :aok:

Three derbies :greengrin

[LeithMike]

On the interest front, I think it’s 7.75% or was anyway (that’s what’s quoted in last years ST info), that would mean on £400 it would be £31. £3 a month on a 10 month plan. My view is I’d rather we paid that than the club pay that for every single person, costing around 6 figures.

I get it will cost a little more to the person, but Hibs themselves have frozen the price of the season ticket.

I also don’t think £3 per month (if it was that) would stop anyone from renewing, if it became unaffordable because of this I’d probably be questioning whether they should have been paying for one in the first place (in the nicest possible way).Still wonder if this is where Hibernian Supporters could play a role rather than some finance company profiting.

What about offering some packages?
A - £40 a month to HS - includes season ticket and donation to HS over 12 months of £80 on a £400 season ticket

B - £50 a month - includes season ticket, home shirt and donation to HS of £100 on a £400 season ticket and £50 for Kicks for kids.

Appreciate there will be complexities and a bit more administration ensuring people pay but HS could really give themselves a purpose and a really powerful voice in the club if they were brokering a significant number of ST and merchandise purchases.

If not HS then the club could surely offer something like this and could offset any lost interest by including merchandise and the like. People have spoken before about viewing it as a monthly membership rather than ST and Hibs could put some packages (inc merchandise, stadium tour, members' night, dvd of season highlights etc) together to get the fans signed up.

Just needs a bit of imagination.



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[hibbysam]

Your mates wrong. Once you logged in to watch one game, you were accepting the fact that it counted as "at tynecastle"

Think the argument was that if they were on TV then you never had to login though.

[hibbysam]

Still wonder if this is where Hibernian Supporters could play a role rather than some finance company profiting.

What about offering some packages?
A - £40 a month to HS - includes season ticket and donation to HS over 12 months of £80 on a £400 season ticket

B - £50 a month - includes season ticket, home shirt and donation to HS of £100 on a £400 season ticket and £50 for Kicks for kids.

Appreciate there will be complexities and a bit more administration ensuring people pay but HS could really give themselves a purpose and a really powerful voice in the club if they were brokering a significant number of ST and merchandise purchases.

If not HS then the club could surely offer something like this and could offset any lost interest by including merchandise and the like. People have spoken before about viewing it as a monthly membership rather than ST and Hibs could put some packages (inc merchandise, stadium tour, members' night, dvd of season highlights etc) together to get the fans signed up.

Just needs a bit of imagination.



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Schemes like that I like. And I think will be something the club looks at more going forward, membership style. I do think they still want to get as many people paying up front as possible and by incentivising these things then it may take away a lot of up front customers.

To get around the non payers it would simply be the first month payment is the shirt, every month after that is paying the season ticket, and any months missed the season ticket gets put on hold until paid. Final payments are the HS donations to the club.

[007]

He amazes me - he’s a really intelligent guy but when it comes to hearts he’s totally blinded.

Sounds like he's lying. That's what they do when you've got something new to slag them about. They just tell an outright lie to cover it up. Usually asking a question or two about it will get them to slip up.

[Juniper Greens]

Think the argument was that if they were on TV then you never had to login though.

Yeah, but that's not how it worked. It was once you have used hearts tv once, it was assumed that you would take it up for every game. I've heard a lot of fans actually opted out and chose to PPV the odd game that they had to. If thats true, hearts ST income will be greatly reduced

[Juniper Greens]

I think Hibs have missed the mark a wee bit with this. Whilst not as outraged as some on here, I actually think hibs should have upped each ST cost by 10-20 pounds and then given renewals double that off ie. 20-40.
As for the interest point. Having used it, it's a shame to lose it, but I'm surprised hibs have paid it for as long as they have, I had heard it would be gone for last year and possibly the year before too. A lot of other clubs don't pay the interest cost

[Peevemor]

I think Hibs will be able to firm up on details and officially launch the ST campaign now that the right to continue to stream matches next season has been formalised.

It's obviously not ideal, but while there's still doubt about attendances in the grounds it's pretty important.

https://spfl.co.uk/news/press-release-47629

[Eyrie]

I think Hibs will be able to firm up on details and officially launch the ST campaign now that the right to continue to stream matches next season has been formalised.

It's obviously not ideal, but while there's still doubt about attendances in the grounds it's pretty important.

https://spfl.co.uk/news/press-release-47629

Like everyone else I'd rather be there in person, but it's good to know that the games will still be available if numbers in the grounds are restricted or there's another wave.

[O'Rourke3]

I think Hibs will be able to firm up on details and officially launch the ST campaign now that the right to continue to stream matches next season has been formalised.

It's obviously not ideal, but while there's still doubt about attendances in the grounds it's pretty important.

https://spfl.co.uk/news/press-release-47629No comment on Celtic making their games available. They might need the money next year I suppose.

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[hibbysam]

Yeah, but that's not how it worked. It was once you have used hearts tv once, it was assumed that you would take it up for every game. I've heard a lot of fans actually opted out and chose to PPV the odd game that they had to. If thats true, hearts ST income will be greatly reduced

Outstanding. Sounds like they’ve backtracked about 3 times on it, from any games you miss, to computer screens count, now to one computer screen counts for the full season 😂 they’ll lap it up tae.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Season ticket information coming out tomorrow.

No guarantees of attending games as the games will be balloted at Home (although corporate holders get in without ballot to every game).

[3pm]

Season ticket information coming out tomorrow.

No gaurantees of attending games as the games will be balloted at Home (although corporate holders get in without ballot to every game).

Halfers on a Corporate? I'll take the 2nd half. 😜

[SteveHFC]

Season ticket information coming out tomorrow.

No gaurantees of attending games as the games will be balloted at Home (although corporate holders get in without ballot to every game).

Think AST holders should given access to all homes games next season.

:greengrin

[Baldy Foghorn]

Halfers on a Corporate? I'll take the 2nd half. 😜

Fed up now R, why are we even bothering, when Club not interested in Joe Public.

[bod]

Joe should’ve bought a bigger ticket :greengrin

[marinello59]

Think AST holders should given access to all homes games next season.

:greengrin

Behave . :greengrin

[Danderhall Hibs]

Season ticket information coming out tomorrow.

No guarantees of attending games as the games will be balloted at Home (although corporate holders get in without ballot to every game).

It’s going to take some marketing video to sell in the numbers we done last year.

[Baldy Foghorn]

It’s going to take some marketing video to sell in the numbers we done last year.

Read tonight that Clubs will have the same agreements to show matches on streams again. Doesn't seem likely fans will get use of their season tickets again. £420 again to maybe see ten games in flesh?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Read tonight that Clubs will have the same agreements to show matches on streams again. Doesn't seem likely fans will get use of their season tickets again. £420 again to maybe see ten games in flesh?

Agreed - it’s an unprecedented time for everyone so they can’t play on that one. Now we saw that the meteor didn’t strike as predicted we know the clubs will be ok there will definitely be a few lost.

[JohnM1875]

I'm really on the fence about it this year. Last year I didn't hesitate and even though I was in the 'Gold' price range was happy to pay for it.

Doesn't seem likely that we'll have full attendance for some time now, and my group of four have agreed no point in going unless we can all go together again. Which is even less likely if it's going to be a ballot system.

[green day]

Agreed - it’s an unprecedented time for everyone so they can’t play on that one. Now we saw that the meteor didn’t strike as predicted we know the clubs will be ok there will definitely be a few lost.

I find it bizarre that several clubs (not us, as we have loads of st holders) haven't gone pop. The likes of Hamilton must rely massively on away supports, so how are they still going? Loans?

[Danderhall Hibs]

I find it bizarre that several clubs (not us, as we have loads of st holders) haven't gone pop. The likes of Hamilton must rely massively on away supports, so how are they still going? Loans?

I know and none even seem to be close to the brink. Feels like it was a big exaggeration last year.

[calumhibee1]

I'm really on the fence about it this year. Last year I didn't hesitate and even though I was in the 'Gold' price range was happy to pay for it.

Doesn't seem likely that we'll have full attendance for some time now, and my group of four have agreed no point in going unless we can all go together again. Which is even less likely if it's going to be a ballot system.

Likewise.

Never thought I’d see the day I would genuinely be considering giving up my ST but I don’t know if I could pay that kind of money and not be able to get into the stadium again for most of it.

Not Hibs fault of course but a second season of donating hundreds of pounds for nothing like the product a season ticket usually gives you would be difficult for myself and I’d imagine loads of others to swallow.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I'm really on the fence about it this year. Last year I didn't hesitate and even though I was in the 'Gold' price range was happy to pay for it.

Doesn't seem likely that we'll have full attendance for some time now, and my group of four have agreed no point in going unless we can all go together again. Which is even less likely if it's going to be a ballot system.

That makes sense, I am loathed to pay 420 when we are unsure how many games we'll get to. (Fine last year, but a lot to pay to watch on a stream)

[tamig]

Read tonight that Clubs will have the same agreements to show matches on streams again. Doesn't seem likely fans will get use of their season tickets again. £420 again to maybe see ten games in flesh?

So you’re saying fans will get use of their STs. Maybe just not for every game for so long as capacities are reduced.

[green day]

I know and none even seem to be close to the brink. Feels like it was a big exaggeration last year.

But surely these clubs are not sitting on piles of cash? I get that the backers of Killie and St j would bail them out but don't understand some of the rest......and even less so in the championship.

[04Sauzee]

I'm really on the fence about it this year. Last year I didn't hesitate and even though I was in the 'Gold' price range was happy to pay for it.

Doesn't seem likely that we'll have full attendance for some time now, and my group of four have agreed no point in going unless we can all go together again. Which is even less likely if it's going to be a ballot system.
I can't fork out over 1k for 4 tickets again this season if it's looking unlikely we will be attending anytime soon. Have to see what tomorrow brings I guess.

[ahibby]

I find it bizarre that several clubs (not us, as we have loads of st holders) haven't gone pop. The likes of Hamilton must rely massively on away supports, so how are they still going? Loans?

It would be fun to go back to the stands but as long as I get access to Hibs Pass thatll do until such time as its business as usual. Ill buy my gold ST anyway.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Likewise.

Never thought I’d see the day I would genuinely be considering giving up my ST but I don’t know if I could pay that kind of money and not be able to get into the stadium again for most of it.

Not Hibs fault of course but a second season of donating hundreds of pounds for nothing like the product a season ticket usually gives you would be difficult for myself and I’d imagine loads of others to swallow.

I think the club could’ve done more - I know some don’t want or expect anything but even sending a Christmas card or a bottle of wine or a selection box at Christmas would’ve been a nice touch that gave a feel good. They done a few phone calls at the start of lockdown but only to a select few - more of that.

I’m no marketing expert but doing something rather than nothing would’ve helped.

They chose not to and could well see a drop in renewals.

[Baldy Foghorn]

So you’re saying fans will get use of their STs. Maybe just not for every game for so long as capacities are reduced.

Hibs need to clarify how ballots will operate, i.e. if you miss two do you get the third? Still a large expense to watch streams

[marinello59]

Hibs need to clarify how ballots will operate, i.e. if you miss two do you get the third? Still a large expense to watch streams

Hopefully any ballots will allow for family and groups who attend together to all go to the same games. We will be renewing but it’s been a much harder decision than usual.

[hibbysam]

Hibs need to clarify how ballots will operate, i.e. if you miss two do you get the third? Still a large expense to watch streams

Also wouldn’t be happy if I managed to get a ticket for Motherwell at home, which then meant I was out of the ballot for Rangers and Hearts at home.

[B.H.F.C]

I’ll renew but I’ve no idea why.

Think there will be a fairly large drop in numbers so maybe the ballots won’t be too much of an issue by the time August comes round for those that do renew.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Also wouldn’t be happy if I managed to get a ticket for Motherwell at home, which then meant I was out of the ballot for Rangers and Hearts at home.

Aye it’s an interesting one. Do they ask you to register for a ballot or does everyone go in the hat and you get what you get.

If we can get to 50% of capacity then we could get everyone in (well 10000) - not sure how far we are away from that.

I think the PPV deal is intended to be mainly for away fans as there won’t be any next season.

[green day]

I would imagine that the window for renewing your seats will be extended by a fair bit.

[3pm]

I assume the 'NHS thank you' won't happen until we are fully operational?

[hibbysam]

Aye it’s an interesting one. Do they ask you to register for a ballot or does everyone go in the hat and you get what you get.

If we can get to 50% of capacity then we could get everyone in (well 10000) - not sure how far we are away from that.

I think the PPV deal is intended to be mainly for away fans as there won’t be any next season.

If we’re not sitting at least 50% by autumn then serious questions need asked. Will be extremely interesting to see how the snooker goes down south this week. If nothing comes of that within a few weeks they won’t have a leg to stand on.

[Bishop Hibee]

I’ll cough up as I’m in a position to be able to afford to do so but I think ST sales will suffer. Winning the cup and/or bringing Leigh home would help the sales for sure.

[green day]

If we can get to 50% of capacity then we could get everyone in (well 10000) - not sure how far we are away from that

Interesting one.

Where I sit is at least 90% seasons.

If we went to 50% capacity, people would have to be sitting spaced out all over the shop.