What would be the most acceptable way to conclude this season?

[jacomo]

Maths says that Celtc near certain to win title if season is restarted, Hearts likely to go down, and Hibs likely to stay in top 6.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52054235

Season looks less and less likely to restart with each passing day, so RELEGATE HEARTS.

[theonlywayisup]

If they declare Celtic champions they need to relegate Hearts or sporting integrity comes in to it. Can't say crowning Celtic champions is fair then say relegating Hearts isn't.

Voiding wouldn't work for me. 80% of the season completed and too much monetary, emotional and physical effort has been put into it to say it doesn't count.

The SPFL/SFA or whoever shouldn't be deciding it. It should go to a vote to all the member clubs with the majority winning.

Why restructure the leagues? Overcomplicate something that is simple. Mind you wouldn't surprise me.

Because it's highly likely that a late start to the 2020/21 season will mean it's impossible to play a 38 game Premiership. With each week of delay that likelihood increases. Like it or not, it could be September or even later before restrictions are lifted. Whatever the 2020/21 season format, it needs to be flexible to allow for a late start and possibly a second wave of the virus.

Things can get back to the norm by season 2021/22, but I think season 2020/21 is likely to be disrupted as much as the current season.

[Waxy]

If they null and void it It’ll scunner alot of people away from football.
Not an option imo.

[G B Young]

Interesting:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/52133983

Table (including promotion and relegation) to be determined by a 'best playing record formula'.

Sounds logical enough to me.

[Paul1642]

Belgium league has accepted final standings. Relegation issue not yet decided.

[Del Boy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52138270

[JohnM1875]

Belgium league has accepted final standings. Relegation issue not yet decided.

No relegation apparently.

[Ozyhibby]

Belgium league has accepted final standings. Relegation issue not yet decided.

And they only had one game to play. Smart decision.


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[PatHead]

No relegation apparently.

Boo. Not according to the article I have read. Still to be decided but hinted relegation will apply.

[Del Boy]

So with continuing the season looking unlikely are the two most likely options in terms of relegation/promotion- Hearts down Utd up OR no relegation Utd and ICT up (14 team top league next year)? Null and void sounding more unlikely

[matty_f]

So with continuing the season looking unlikely are the two most likely options in terms of relegation/promotion- Hearts down Utd up OR no relegation Utd and ICT up (14 team top league next year)? Null and void sounding more unlikely

I think null and void will be the least likely option to go ahead.

I can see them trying to force through the two up, no relegation option but I think that will be the hardest to get over the line.

Celtic winning the league and Hearts relegated is the least bad option.


If we could just relegate Hearts that would be the best option.

[JohnM1875]

Boo. Not according to the article I have read. Still to be decided but hinted relegation will apply.

Yeah its unclear actually. Think the guy I posted the tweet of might be doing some guessing.

Think it's more complicated there as the 1st division promotion play off is already one leg in. So they don't know if they can complete that in time. So wouldn't know what team to promote.

Complicated league system when looking into it!

[GlesgaeHibby]

And they only had one game to play. Smart decision.


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11 to play.league splits after 30 games

[Tambo]

I know football is not essential but if people like myself are still going to work 40 hours a week through public transport then I'm sure footballers could at least finish this season behind closed doors, do a lot of testing, players travelling alone etc.

[mjhibby]

Shortening the following season will still leave clubs missing a huge chunk of their income. As clubs are putting season tickets on sale then it's fair to say next season won't be shortened. Plus of course the TV companies will want 4 bigotfests a season.

[speedy_gonzales]

Let's just have a sudden death playoff, two games, Celtic-Rangers for the title, Hearts-Dundee Utd for the relegation/promotion/as you were,,,,

[number9dream]

If they declare Celtic champions they need to relegate Hearts or sporting integrity comes in to it. Can't say crowning Celtic champions is fair then say relegating Hearts isn't.

Voiding wouldn't work for me. 80% of the season completed and too much monetary, emotional and physical effort has been put into it to say it doesn't count.

The SPFL/SFA or whoever shouldn't be deciding it. It should go to a vote to all the member clubs with the majority winning.

Why restructure the leagues? Overcomplicate something that is simple. Mind you wouldn't surprise me.

The rugby geezers put five options to all clubs and null & void topped the voting... Not popular with two teams that had already won their divisions.
Obviously, it would need to be a top secret ballot for the mad world of Scottish football and there would probably still be legal challenges from the likes of Hearts if they didn’t like the result.

[Eyrie]

Because it's highly likely that a late start to the 2020/21 season will mean it's impossible to play a 38 game Premiership. With each week of delay that likelihood increases. Like it or not, it could be September or even later before restrictions are lifted. Whatever the 2020/21 season format, it needs to be flexible to allow for a late start and possibly a second wave of the virus.

Things can get back to the norm by season 2021/22, but I think season 2020/21 is likely to be disrupted as much as the current season.

I'd solve that with the simple fix of starting season 20/21 later and splitting after two rounds of fixtures. 22+10 = 32 games, a loss of three home games for each club but much easier to fit it for one year.

Then back to the current system, or introduce reconstruction after thinking about it properly.

[WhileTheChief..]

All the chat recently has been about the league.

Is it a given that there just won’t be a Scottish Cup this year?

[GreenCastle]

Transfer window due to open in June.

There is talk they may extend it open till January - not sure that’s the best idea.

I have a feeling we will find out in next few weeks about Scottish league outcomes.

Possibly the clubs voting ? Though that could open a can of worms.

I think we are waiting to see what England does - pretty sure we did similar when we decided to stop playing.

Any clubs threatening legal action should get punished for bringing the game into disrepute.

[Green Man]

All the chat recently has been about the league.

Is it a given that there just won’t be a Scottish Cup this year?

The SFA said they’re committed to completing the competition at an appropriate time, that was at the time that all football was cancelled. I haven’t seen anything further from them about it.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5455070/uefa-spfl-void-barred-champions-europa-league/amp/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true
Voiding the league is now out of the question.


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[Danderhall Hibs]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5455070/uefa-spfl-void-barred-champions-europa-league/amp/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true
Voiding the league is now out of the question.


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They’ll have leaked this to start softening the blow for Rangers and Hearts.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/spfl-summit-could-crown-celtic-21804117.amp?__twitter_impression=true


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[Ozyhibby]

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You would have to think reconstruction is off the table if that is the numbers they need in favour?


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[Del Boy]

Going by tonight’s news in the tabloids... HEARTS ARE GOING DOWN!!

[Danderhall Hibs]

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You would have to think reconstruction is off the table if that is the numbers they need in favour?


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Everything’s off the table if that’s the numbers required?

[Ozyhibby]

Everything’s off the table if that’s the numbers required?

That’s only the numbers required for reconstruction. Everything else will be a majority.


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[SteveHFC]

Going by tonight’s news in the tabloids... HEARTS ARE GOING DOWN!!
https://media.giphy.com/media/QjTAjja6qYQhi/giphy.gif

[Lee Marvin]

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You would have to think reconstruction is off the table if that is the numbers they need in favour?


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It's clearly going to go to a vote for reconstruction. What are the pros and cons to this for the clubs?

Pros - 'Fairer' as no relegation this year. Less chance of future relegation for the 'bigger' clubs. No chance of litigation for the SPFL.

Cons - The TV deal is already in place for 12 club league. Potentially less games against the old firm for some.

What are the other pros/cons?

Based on this, who do we think would vote this through? I can't see how they get 11 out of 12 to vote for this unless the collective thoughts were that it is very unfair to relegate Patrick & Hearts. Is this enough?! Doubtful IMO.

Moreover, and possibly crucially, which way would Hibs vote? I would be fuming if we voted for reconstruction, personally - as would a large proportion of the fan base I'm sure.

[Gloucester Hibs]

It's clearly going to go to a vote for reconstruction. What are the pros and cons to this for the clubs?

Pros - 'Fairer' as no relegation this year. Less chance of future relegation for the 'bigger' clubs. No chance of litigation for the SPFL.

Cons - The TV deal is already in place for 12 club league. Potentially less games against the old firm for some.

What are the other pros/cons?

Based on this, who do we think would vote this through? I can't see how they get 11 out of 12 to vote for this unless the collective thoughts were that it is very unfair to relegate Patrick & Hearts. Is this enough?! Doubtful IMO.

Moreover, and possibly crucially, which way would Hibs vote? I would be fuming if we voted for reconstruction, personally - as would a large proportion of the fan base I'm sure.

Couldn't see the Huns voting for any solution that sees Celtic crowned champions.

UEFA still hopeful for all domestic campaigns to be concluded in July/August! Warning leagues that finishing early could jeopardise European participation

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52148695

[Lee Marvin]

Couldn't see the Huns voting for any solution that sees Celtic crowned champions.

UEFA still hopeful for all domestic campaigns to be concluded in July/August! Warning leagues that finishing early could jeopardise European participation

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52148695

This is interesting and potentially crucial. I cannot see the SPFL completing the league early if there would be no European football next year for Celtic & Rangers. Unless they are referring to Null & Voiding the league, not calling them with actual finishing positions?!

[Ozyhibby]

Uefa comps are due to start in July so can’t finish leagues after that?


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[Billy Whizz]

Uefa comps are due to start in July so can’t finish leagues after that?


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UEFA are wanting the league campaigns completed in July and August

[WestCoastHibby]

I've come round to null and void all leagues and pay out the money.
Start afresh as soon as able.
Yep it's hard for teams due promotion but this is a world wide crisis and despite what many get worked up about its just a game.
Bill Shankley quotes aside

[matty_f]

I've come round to null and void all leagues and pay out the money.
Start afresh as soon as able.
Yep it's hard for teams due promotion but this is a world wide crisis and despite what many get worked up about its just a game.
Bill Shankley quotes aside

That's the least fair outcome, and totally unnecessary - even taking the crisis into consideration there's literally no good reason to go down that route.

[Del Boy]

Null and void not being considered in Scotland.

[mjhibby]

So infuriating that some some eejits in the media are saying not to relegate Hertz as they might be in trouble. They are in a mess totally of their own making and saving the well run clubs should be the priority not clubs who are trying to bin players they didn't have the money to sign in the first place. Sevco and Hertz are without doubt the worst run Scottish clubs and by some distance. The spl doesn't need them as was shown when sevco were out of it for three years. For the sake of sporting integrity fans should boycott the same as they did when they tried to put sevco in the championship. That will finish this nonsense. Relegate them and then we can plan ahead.

[Ozyhibby]

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Looking at the letter from Uefa they are obviously thinking of delaying next season to finish this. Clearly a case of putting their own financial priorities above their member associations.
The SPFL clubs can’t afford that but they will do what Uefa tell them to do I would imagine. So no decision will be made until mid May now.
Terrible decision for Sevco as Celtic will romp to two titles in one ‘season’.
Good for Hearts if they can afford to sign better players for the run in than Hamilton.


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[mjhibby]

Couldn't see the Huns voting for any solution that sees Celtic crowned champions.

UEFA still hopeful for all domestic campaigns to be concluded in July/August! Warning leagues that finishing early could jeopardise European participation

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52148695

And who gets the place for the Scottish cup winners. If we can't play them then it's Aberdeen I presume.

[GreenCastle]

Couldn't see the Huns voting for any solution that sees Celtic crowned champions.

UEFA still hopeful for all domestic campaigns to be concluded in July/August! Warning leagues that finishing early could jeopardise European participation

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52148695

But why did UEFA have a June 30th deadline.

If they cancelled the Edinburgh festival and tattoo can you see them having 20,000 crowds at Easter Road for a game in July and August ?

As much as Celtic want the league title they also have a chance of the quadruple treble so will want the cup games played also.

If it wasn’t for the contracts and transfer window a simple extension would make sense but the contracts for players (insurance) and TV are a minefield issue.

[Green Reaper]

So they want the leagues finished July /August but no details re lack of players as contracts up or if teams are allowed to sign new players. Could teams end up finishing the season with completely different teams they started with and be stronger for the run in, doesn't seem fair

[jgl07]

Uefa comps are due to start in July so can’t finish leagues after that?

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I think you will find July 2021 is more realistic for a start!

[Lago]

But why did UEFA have a June 30th deadline.

If they cancelled the Edinburgh festival and tattoo can you see them having 20,000 crowds at Easter Road for a game in July and August ?

As much as Celtic want the league title they also have a chance of the quadruple treble so will want the cup games played also.

If it wasn’t for the contracts and transfer window a simple extension would make sense but the contracts for players (insurance) and TV are a minefield issue.
Your absolutely correct, we've just been told by the Chief Medical Officer lock down will continue for a further 13 weeks! at which time it will be reviewed with a view to start lifting restrictions. There will be no large gatherings in July, August or September. Football is facing a hard time. 🙁

[SideBurns]

Your absolutely correct, we've just been told by the Chief Medical Officer lock down will continue for a further 13 weeks! at which time it will be reviewed with a view to start lifting restrictions. There will be no large gatherings in July, August or September. Football is facing a hard time. 🙁

Was that the Scottish CMO? I didn't hear her say that at the lunchtime press conference. Just said the peak wouldn't be next week??

[Onion]

But why did UEFA have a June 30th deadline.

If they cancelled the Edinburgh festival and tattoo can you see them having 20,000 crowds at Easter Road for a game in July and August ?

As much as Celtic want the league title they also have a chance of the quadruple treble so will want the cup games played also.

If it wasn’t for the contracts and transfer window a simple extension would make sense but the contracts for players (insurance) and TV are a minefield issue.

UEFA are locked in their little bubble with no grasp on the reality. After all the sacrifice, loss of lives among the population and brave health professionals who will have spent month battling this deadly disease, do they really think the likes of Spain, Italy and the UK governments are going to risk a second outbreak by allowing a few football matches to take place ? It would be utter madness.

[James Stephen]

Was that the Scottish CMO? I didn't hear her say that at the lunchtime press conference. Just said the peak wouldn't be next week??

She mentioned 13 weeks yesterday at the news conference.

[SideBurns]

She mentioned 13 weeks yesterday at the news conference.

If you heard her say that then I don't doubt it. However, today she refused to get tied down to any dates or deadlines but just reiterated the FM's comments that the peak was highly unlikely to be next week, and that the lockdown would be reviewed after Easter. Given the cautious way she proceeds, seems strange for her to have told the nation we would be in lockdown for another 13 weeks.

[GreenCastle]

From the Scottish Government website..

The single most important action we can all take, in fighting coronavirus, is to stay at home in order to protect the NHS and save lives.

When we reduce our day-to-day contact with other people, we will reduce the spread of the infection.

That is why we have introduced three new measures:

requiring people to stay at home, except for very limited purposes
closing certain business and venues
stopping all gatherings of more than two people in public
Every person in Scotland must comply with these new measures, which came into effect on 23 March 2020.

The relevant authorities, including the police, have been given the powers to enforce them – including through fines and dispersing gatherings.

These measures are in force for 6 MONTHS in the first instance, unless all, or parts are revoked.

They will initially last for the 3 weeks from 27 March 2020, at which point we will review and relax them if the evidence shows this is possible.

.......

It says 6 months so unless things improve any time soon it could still be while before anyone visits a football ground.

The lockdown is till end of this month minimum.

Clubs and organisations can plan all they want but the government is ruling here and until restrictions are relaxed we won’t be seeing any football (even behind closed doors - it’s not just 22 folk turning up for a kick about at the park - medical staff etc behind the scenes and magnify that in England).

[SideBurns]

From the Scottish Government website..

The single most important action we can all take, in fighting coronavirus, is to stay at home in order to protect the NHS and save lives.

When we reduce our day-to-day contact with other people, we will reduce the spread of the infection.

That is why we have introduced three new measures:

requiring people to stay at home, except for very limited purposes
closing certain business and venues
stopping all gatherings of more than two people in public
Every person in Scotland must comply with these new measures, which came into effect on 23 March 2020.

The relevant authorities, including the police, have been given the powers to enforce them – including through fines and dispersing gatherings.

These measures are in force for 6 MONTHS in the first instance, unless all, or parts are revoked.

They will initially last for the 3 weeks from 27 March 2020, at which point we will review and relax them if the evidence shows this is possible.

....

It says 6 months so unless things improve any tome soon it could still be while before anyone visits a football ground.

The lockdown is till end of this month minimum.

Clubs and organisations can plan all they want but the government is ruling here and until restrictions are relaxed we won’t be seeing any football (even behind closed doors - it’s not just 22 folk turning up for a kick about at the park - medical staff etc behind the scenes and magnify that in England).

Agreed. Fitba has a responsibility to respect the restrictions as much as every other industry and individual. There is no certainty whatsoever in the length of the lockdown though.

But if I walk through the turnstiles at Easter Road in August I'll be delighted; think that's the best scenario we can hope for at the moment.

[Onion]

She mentioned 13 weeks yesterday at the news conference.

She will have been told not to do that again. No chance any government is going to say to a population that it'll likely be 13 weeks locked in the house ! Expect rolling reviews to be the norm.

[Lago]

Was that the Scottish CMO? I didn't hear her say that at the lunchtime press conference. Just said the peak wouldn't be next week??
Yes Scottish CM, dropped it quietly during her statement.
Also EPL now suspended indefinitely.

[G B Young]

Was that the Scottish CMO? I didn't hear her say that at the lunchtime press conference. Just said the peak wouldn't be next week??

From today's press conference:

Ms Sturgeon's view was echoed by Scotland's chief medical officer, Dr Catherine Calderwood, who said it would be "many months" before the country is able to "get on top of this virus" without the risk of it re-emerging.
She said: "Each day we are announcing more people infected with the virus than the day before, more people being admitted to hospital and intensive care and more deaths day-on-day as we go through this epidemic.
"So at the moment we will not be able to give a clear date of when the peak would be.
"What we would look for first is a slowing in the rate of those people becoming positive, and we are not seeing that yet. In fact, the proportion of people being tested who are positive is increasing day by day and has done so for the past two to three weeks."

[SideBurns]

From today's press conference:

Ms Sturgeon's view was echoed by Scotland's chief medical officer, Dr Catherine Calderwood, who said it would be "many months" before the country is able to "get on top of this virus" without the risk of it re-emerging.
She said: "Each day we are announcing more people infected with the virus than the day before, more people being admitted to hospital and intensive care and more deaths day-on-day as we go through this epidemic.
"So at the moment we will not be able to give a clear date of when the peak would be.
"What we would look for first is a slowing in the rate of those people becoming positive, and we are not seeing that yet. In fact, the proportion of people being tested who are positive is increasing day by day and has done so for the past two to three weeks."

She was also asked whether people could expect to get away on their summer hols, and she replied that we shouldn't expect that our holidays this year would be like previous years. Calderwood & Sturgeon are being asked questions they can't answer with any degree of certainty because they just don't when we'll peak and be able to contemplate a relaxation of the restrictions.

Which makes any idea of restarting the fitba season appear ridiculous. Get it concluded and hope there isn't a significant delay to the beginning of next season.

[blackpoolhibs]

Obviously we have no real idea when football will start again, or when things will get back to what we call normal.

What i have just found a little worrying is, i have just driven someone to work, and i couldn't believe how busy the roads and pavements were.

I've done the same drive a few times recently, and maybe its the weather, but i was astonished at how busier it was today than previous days.

[Dibben]

Yeah agree with this.

I do the Blood bikes, whilst the hospitals are quiet, the Streets aren’t as quiet as they should be. Queens Park in particular were pretty busy last weekend. Understand that the weather was good and people ‘need’ to get out, but the amount of people walking around is not helping us end this lockdown early!!

[James Stephen]

She will have been told not to do that again. No chance any government is going to say to a population that it'll likely be 13 weeks locked in the house ! Expect rolling reviews to be the norm.

Well ours did, and the FM was also at pains to point out (as she has been throughout) that this will not be quick, rhat we are in for the long haul and no lifting of restriction is imminent.

Agree they will be reviewing on an ongoing basis, but the 13 weeks (11 from now i took it as as we are 2 weeks in) is obviously their working assumption.

[Kavinho]

Agreed. Fitba has a responsibility to respect the restrictions as much as every other industry and individual. There is no certainty whatsoever in the length of the lockdown though.

But if I walk through the turnstiles at Easter Road in August I'll be delighted; think that's the best scenario we can hope for at the moment.


Think of all the hundreds of hands pushing through the turnstiles before you..

[matty_f]

Having had a day or so to think it over, I reckon the best thing to do would be to relegate Hearts.


Toss a coin as to whatever happens to the rest of the teams.

[K-Zazu]

Currently watching the Dinamo Minsk game live from Belarus.

[K-Zazu]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-belarus-president-refuses-to-cancel-anything-and-says-vodka-and-saunas-will-ward-off-coronavirus-11965396

[Keith_M]

Currently watching the Dinamo Minsk game live from Belarus.


Apparently the Belorussians have been told they can keep healthy with regular saunas and a daily intake of 20ml of Vodka.

[SideBurns]

Think of all the hundreds of hands pushing through the turnstiles before you..

They'll be Hibbies - we're all suffering from the same lifelong affliction anyway 😁

[Billy Whizz]

Apparently the Belorussians have been told they can keep healthy with regular saunas and a daily intake of 20ml of Vodka.

Is that 20ml per day or per hour

[matty_f]

https://bit.ly/2V0VUdC

Relegate Hearts!!!

[GreenCastle]

Regarding Premier League.

“ During Saturday's conference call, the Premier League warned that it faces a £762m financial penalty if the season does not resume, and broadcasters demanded refunds on games they could not show.

It added that hundreds of millions of pounds could be lost in sponsorship and matchday revenue because the season has been suspended, and that the campaign will almost certainly be played behind closed doors if it resumes.”

Quote from this BBC article - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52168692

As discussed this is a minefield as TV contracts and sponsors want what they paid for.

Going to be very interesting to see the solution...as can’t see it being behind closed doors any time soon.

[chippy]

Regarding Premier League.

“ During Saturday's conference call, the Premier League warned that it faces a £762m financial penalty if the season does not resume, and broadcasters demanded refunds on games they could not show.

It added that hundreds of millions of pounds could be lost in sponsorship and matchday revenue because the season has been suspended, and that the campaign will almost certainly be played behind closed doors if it resumes.”

Quote from this BBC article - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52168692

As discussed this is a minefield as TV contracts and sponsors want what they paid for.

Going to be very interesting to see the solution...as can’t see it being behind closed doors any time soon.

contracts ripped up possibly for next season too. Not as damaging for Scotland though

[chippy]

Regarding Premier League.

“ During Saturday's conference call, the Premier League warned that it faces a £762m financial penalty if the season does not resume, and broadcasters demanded refunds on games they could not show.

It added that hundreds of millions of pounds could be lost in sponsorship and matchday revenue because the season has been suspended, and that the campaign will almost certainly be played behind closed doors if it resumes.”

Quote from this BBC article - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52168692

As discussed this is a minefield as TV contracts and sponsors want what they paid for.

Going to be very interesting to see the solution...as can’t see it being behind closed doors any time soon.

Probably TV deals slashed for future seasons if contracted already to compensate for loss of games this season

[plhibs]

UEFA are locked in their little bubble with no grasp on the reality. After all the sacrifice, loss of lives among the population and brave health professionals who will have spent month battling this deadly disease, do they really think the likes of Spain, Italy and the UK governments are going to risk a second outbreak by allowing a few football matches to take place ? It would be utter madness.

We're getting the same feeling and messages over here, even health officers saying it could maybe hang around for 12/18 months. There's no vaccine for this and things will not be going back to anything like normal for the fear that we could be hit with a second wave. I think we have a very long road ahead of us, stay safe you guys.

[Sammy7nil]

I think two things will happen

1.The league's called as they stand money paid out.
2.Negotiations on reconstruction of all the league's will commence.

[Phil MaGlass]

So the english league lose a few hundred million from the billions they have already earned, whipty ****ing woo, who gives a ****, it will only effect them for 1 eeason, nae pity for them, they can handle it. As for UEFA been shown up for what they are,ostriches, time to change the whole face of football, including the SFA and SPFL.

[chippy]

I think two things will happen

1.The league's called as they stand money paid out.
2.Negotiations on reconstruction of all the league's will commence.
That sounds the correct strategy for Scottish football. Even the new Sky deal will be up in the air. We could be in a state of serious restrictions until a vaccine is found. Who’s gonna sit at a stadium with thousands of others until then. Will we try closed door matches eventually or mothball the game?

[Del Boy]

I think two things will happen

1.The league's called as they stand money paid out.
2.Negotiations on reconstruction of all the league's will commence.

That’s what was being suggested on sportsound yesterday

[JimBHibees]

That’s what was being suggested on sportsound yesterday

No way imo would reconstruction be on the table if Hamilton were currently bottom.

[Sammy7nil]

No way imo would reconstruction be on the table if Hamilton were currently bottom.

Probably true but it would be if Hibs or Aberdeen were.

[Eyrie]

No way imo would reconstruction be on the table if Hamilton were currently bottom.

And Budge would have issued a couple of statements by now demanding that the current standings should be declared final so that prize money can be distributed to help clubs in financial difficulty.

[Eyrie]

Probably true but it would be if Hibs or Aberdeen were.

It didn't happen when us, Hearts and Sevco were all in the second tier.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52190783


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[we are hibs]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52190783


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Interesting last 2 paragraphs. Seems its inevitable now.

[JohnM1875]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52190783


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What a weird final paragraph. 'Writing is on the wall' at the tail end of a piece that puts forward so many alternate options.

Absolutely chuffed if it is called as is though!

[weecounty hibby]

Do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do cmon just ****in do it

[Ozyhibby]

What a weird final paragraph. 'Writing is on the wall' at the tail end of a piece that puts forward so many alternate options.

Absolutely chuffed if it is called as is though!

The article mostly rules out the other options as it goes though.


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[Moulin Yarns]

Apologies if already posted. But I said this right at the beginning. Extend existing contracts. Killie have more than 4 players to complete the season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52188913

[Ozyhibby]

Apologies if already posted. But I said this right at the beginning. Extend existing contracts. Killie have more than 4 players to complete the season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52188913

That article is fantasy stuff. Fifa can’t force people to extend contracts. We have the rule of law in this country and in most of Europe.


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[G B Young]

That article is fantasy stuff. Fifa can’t force people to extend contracts. We have the rule of law in this country and in most of Europe.


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Exactly. There will be any number of players counting down their contracts and already planning their futures away from the clubs they're currently at. It would be illegal to extend their contracts without their consent.

[Moulin Yarns]

That article is fantasy stuff. Fifa can’t force people to extend contracts. We have the rule of law in this country and in most of Europe.


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And if the Window is moved then they have no club and can't play football.

[blackpoolhibs]

And if the Window is moved then they have no club and can't play football.

Why would they move the window, and put people out of work who don't want to sign on again for a club they want to leave?

[Ozyhibby]

And if the Window is moved then they have no club and can't play football.

Why would a footballer sign a 1 month deal to play when he can wait and try get himself a 3 year deal? Why risk getting injured?


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[PatHead]

Who is out of contract for us at the end of the season?

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Who is out of contract for us at the end of the season?

I can only think of Whittaker and Slivka from the permanent squad.

[Billy Whizz]

I can only think of Whittaker and Slivka from the permanent squad.

Bogdan and Ben Stirling out of contract too

[Ozyhibby]

The more out of contract the better. Footballers will be cheaper next season and the teams that can buy better players at the cheaper prices will prosper.


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[bingo70]

I can only think of Whittaker and Slivka from the permanent squad.

If you’re talking about players out of contract from us you’ve got to include the loan players as well.

Docherty, omeonga, McNulty, Naismith......

Anybody else?

[Ozyhibby]

https://news.stv.tv/sport/ceferin-warns-leagues-that-decisions-must-be-approved-by-uefa?top&amp&__twitter_impression=true

UEFA indicating that final standings will be the way it goes. Bad news for Hearts.


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[G B Young]

If you’re talking about players out of contract from us you’ve got to include the loan players as well.

Docherty, omeonga, McNulty, Naismith......

Anybody else?

So in total that's Bogdan, Stirling, Whittaker, Slivka, Docherty, Omeonga, McNulty and Naismith. More than two thirds of a team's worth of players.

When does Rocky's contract run until?

[Billy Whizz]

So in total that's Bogdan, Stirling, Whittaker, Slivka, Docherty, Omeonga, McNulty and Naismith. More than two thirds of a team's worth of players.

When does Rocky's contract run until?

Think he’s got another year

[James Stephen]

https://news.stv.tv/sport/ceferin-warns-leagues-that-decisions-must-be-approved-by-uefa?top&amp&__twitter_impression=true

UEFA indicating that final standings will be the way it goes. Bad news for Hearts.


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Basically UEFA just wanting to make sure no 'unworthy' small clubs who might tarnish the value of their tournaments get in through some weird mechanism being used to finish the season (drawing lots etc)

[G B Young]

Basically UEFA just wanting to make sure no 'unworthy' small clubs who might tarnish the value of their tournaments get in through some weird mechanism being used to finish the season (drawing lots etc)

Yep, their sense of self importance at a time when side issues like that are irrelevant is nauseating.

[G B Young]

Interesting last 2 paragraphs. Seems its inevitable now.

I hope so. They just need to get on with it.

Describing a decision to end the season early as "monumental" is well OTT. It really isn't that big a deal.

[JeMeSouviens]

Essentially whatever's worst for Hearts is alright by me. :wink:

[007]

Clubs like Dundee and Ayr who have at least as much of a claim to be in the top league under reconstruction as Hearts do should not be getting overlooked by the media.

[matty_f]

I think they should just relegate Hearts.

[chippy]

Clubs like Dundee and Ayr who have at least as much of a claim to be in the top league under reconstruction as Hearts do should not be getting overlooked by the media.

I agree bring the top 4 up now

[Ozyhibby]

I agree bring the top 4 up now

And have what size league?


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[Since90+2]

La Liga considering 3 different dates to resume the league- 28th May , 6th June or 28th June.

[Billy Whizz]

I think they should just relegate Hearts.

As long as United come up and not Inverness

[JimBHibees]

What a weird final paragraph. 'Writing is on the wall' at the tail end of a piece that puts forward so many alternate options.

Absolutely chuffed if it is called as is though!

Get the impression from that more than likely Hearts will go down as think Chris McLaughlin one of the more informed journalists.

[chippy]

Get the impression from that more than likely Hearts will go down as think Chris McLaughlin one of the more informed journalists.

I think they’ll finalise the league as it is in other words Hearts bottom but will initiate talks regarding possible reconstruction

[danhibees1875]

I think they should just relegate Hearts.

I can relate to that thought. :agree:

[Ozyhibby]

I think they’ll finalise the league as it is in other words Hearts bottom but will initiate talks regarding possible reconstruction

Can’t see how reconstruction gets passed. Most top flight clubs would lose money and it needs 11 of them to vote for it.


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[Waxy]

I think they’ll finalise the league as it is in other words Hearts bottom but will initiate talks regarding possible reconstruction

Havent heard anyone talk about reconstruction for years.
Its not needed and not wanted by any team except hearts.

[JimBHibees]

I think they’ll finalise the league as it is in other words Hearts bottom but will initiate talks regarding possible reconstruction

Wouldn't rule it out however would they do the same if Hamilton were currently bottom. If not they shouldn't for Hearts.

[JimBHibees]

Havent heard anyone talk about reconstruction for years.
Its not needed and not wanted by any team except hearts.

There has been chat about it on Sportsound usually from Preston Budge Tom English Brian mclaughlin etc a clear theme given those discussing it. :greengrin

[Danderhall Hibs]

I agree bring the top 4 up now

What about the team in 5th?

[Ozyhibby]

There has been chat about it on Sportsound usually from Preston Budge Tom English Brian mclaughlin etc a clear theme given those discussing it. :greengrin

And at no point do they even consider just how hard mathematically it is to get any kind of reconstruction through. They are best ignored when they pay no attention to the actual realities of the game.
Any previous reconstruction came at the end of a long campaign by a considerable group of clubs with a real desire for a change, usually in an effort to make more money.
There is no group of clubs in favour this time, or if there is they are very quiet. And it involves most of the top flight taking less money. Who’s going to vote for that? Nobody serious apart from pundits and fans have even mentioned it because it is such a non starter.
It just won’t happen.


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[JimBHibees]

And at no point do they even consider just how hard mathematically it is to get any kind of reconstruction through. They are best ignored when they pay no attention to the actual realities of the game.
Any previous reconstruction came at the end of a long campaign by a considerable group of clubs with a real desire for a change, usually in an effort to make more money.
There is no group of clubs in favour this time, or if there is they are very quiet. And it involves most of the top flight taking less money. Who’s going to vote for that? Nobody serious apart from pundits and fans have even mentioned it because it is such a non starter.
It just won’t happen.


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Hopefully you are correct.

[greenpaper55]

And at no point do they even consider just how hard mathematically it is to get any kind of reconstruction through. They are best ignored when they pay no attention to the actual realities of the game.
Any previous reconstruction came at the end of a long campaign by a considerable group of clubs with a real desire for a change, usually in an effort to make more money.
There is no group of clubs in favour this time, or if there is they are very quiet. And it involves most of the top flight taking less money. Who’s going to vote for that? Nobody serious apart from pundits and fans have even mentioned it because it is such a non starter.
It just won’t happen.


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I think you are right that there will been no re construction even though the majority of fans would like a sixteen team league playing each other twice. I keep banging on about it as a bigger league is actually to the detriment of the OF making it harder for them to win it, there is an equation that i have seen before which i have of course forgotten, anyone out there remember this ?

[The 90+2]

Just relegate the ****s already 🤬😁

[Ozyhibby]

I think you are right that there will been no re construction even though the majority of fans would like a sixteen team league playing each other twice. I keep banging on about it as a bigger league is actually to the detriment of the OF making it harder for them to win it, there is an equation that i have seen before which i have of course forgotten, anyone out there remember this ?

It is indeed easier to win a 16 or 18 team league because there are less games v the old firm and if you can be consistently good v the rest then you have a chance of pipping then to a title. I’m not against a bigger league but there is no chance of it happening because the clubs can’t afford it. Losing games v Celtic, Sevco, Aberdeen and Hearts and replacing with matches v Dundee, ICT etc would be very expensive for Hibs and we just can’t afford it. Add to that a smaller TV deal because there are less old firm games and it’s just a total non starter.


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[Bostonhibby]

Havent heard anyone talk about reconstruction for years.
Its not needed and not wanted by any team except hearts.Have you seen the not quite finished, year overdue, 100% + over budget single tier stand at tiny castle?

There's no way they will be allowed anywhere near any kind of construction or reconstruction surely?

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[BS44]

And at no point do they even consider just how hard mathematically it is to get any kind of reconstruction through. They are best ignored when they pay no attention to the actual realities of the game.
Any previous reconstruction came at the end of a long campaign by a considerable group of clubs with a real desire for a change, usually in an effort to make more money.
There is no group of clubs in favour this time, or if there is they are very quiet. And it involves most of the top flight taking less money. Who’s going to vote for that? Nobody serious apart from pundits and fans have even mentioned it because it is such a non starter.
It just won’t happen.


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How much less money would SPL teams take a hit for? Isn't it possible because of the extraordinary circumstances this season that clubs may be a bit more flexible about allowing league reconstruction for one season?

[RoYO!]

Am I the only one that couldn't care less about league restructuring!?

Also if you were going to do it then I think the only legitimate way to do it would be to state in advance (a season or two) that it will happen on 'x' date.

I don't think it's right that they'd be able to make a decision as large as that with v little notice.

Plus the tv companies will be demanding 4 old firm games a year for a start.

[Billy Whizz]

Am I the only one that couldn't care less about league restructuring!?

Also if you were going to do it then I think the only legitimate way to do it would be to state in advance (a season or two) that it will happen on 'x' date.

I don't think it's right that they'd be able to make a decision as large as that with v little notice.

Plus the tv companies will be demanding 4 old firm games a year for a start.

I think a bigger championship would help clubs
We’ve got the likes of Raith, Falkirk and Airdrie all in League 1

[Ozyhibby]

How much less money would SPL teams take a hit for? Isn't it possible because of the extraordinary circumstances this season that clubs may be a bit more flexible about allowing league reconstruction for one season?

I can’t see any team in Scotland voting for less money in the current climate. Not when they are asking players to take wage deferrals and are also looking at their commercial and season ticket money being very reduced next season.


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[Ozyhibby]

I think a bigger championship would help clubs
We’ve got the likes of Raith, Falkirk and Airdrie all in League 1

Yo have to go up to 18 or you are losing games which hits the clubs in the pocket.


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[Moulin Yarns]

Why would a footballer sign a 1 month deal to play when he can wait and try get himself a 3 year deal? Why risk getting injured?


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I think you are being deliberately obtuse.

The article suggests that the transfer window will need to be moved to accommodate the finishing of the football season. Similarly it suggest that players whose contract is due to end will be extended to coincide with the transfer window. Nobody is being expected to sign a one month contract. Everything just shifted to allow the season to end with clubs utilising their existing squad.

[Billy Whizz]

Yo have to go up to 18 or you are losing games which hits the clubs in the pocket.


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18 gives 34 games plus play offs

[Paisley Hibby]

Our biggest home gates are usually against Hearts. So from a financial point of view it makes sense for Hibs to save Hearts from relegation. Mind you, we've already helped them a lot. If we'd done the job we should have in our two home league games against them they'd be 10 points adrift at the bottom by now and doomed. Whatever happens you can be sure the Scottish football authorities will end up make an arse of it as usual.

[Ozyhibby]

18 gives 34 games plus play offs

So even at 18 it’s two less games than they have now.
I just can’t see any reconstruction plan that gets enough votes through.


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[Ozyhibby]

Our biggest home gates are usually against Hearts. So from a financial point of view it makes sense for Hibs to save Hearts from relegation. Mind you, we've already helped them a lot. If we'd done the job we should have in our two home league games against them they'd be 10 points adrift at the bottom by now and doomed. Whatever happens you can be sure the Scottish football authorities will end up make an arse of it as usual.

That’s all that can save Hearts. Scottish football’s ability to do something that is harmful to the game.


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[Billy Whizz]

So even at 18 it’s two less games than they have now.
I just can’t see any reconstruction plan that gets enough votes through.


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I think 36 games for them, and then possibly another 6 in play offs, is possibly too many, to promotion

[WhileTheChief..]

I think you are being deliberately obtuse.

The article suggests that the transfer window will need to be moved to accommodate the finishing of the football season. Similarly it suggest that players whose contract is due to end will be extended to coincide with the transfer window. Nobody is being expected to sign a one month contract. Everything just shifted to allow the season to end with clubs utilising their existing squad.

If a player wants to move on at the end of his contract, the club can’t just extend it. They would need to offer the player an extension in the hope he signs it.

So, in effect, the player would be signing a new contract for the length of the extension.

[Spike Mandela]

There has been chat about it on Sportsound usually from Preston Budge Tom English Brian mclaughlin etc a clear theme given those discussing it. :greengrin

The agenda from Hearts from the very first second the league was suspended has been league reconstruction. The media pundits are merely doing Budge’s bidding with very narrow self interest their only motive.

[Waxy]

However many the SPFL gets topped up by would have to be replaced at the bottom. At least two Highland/lLowland joining.It would need at least one season warning.

[dchibs]

Wouldn't rule it out however would they do the same if Hamilton were currently bottom. If not they shouldn't for Hearts.

This is my take on it.

[HoboHarry]

However many the SPFL gets topped up by would have to be replaced at the bottom. At least two Highland/lLowland joining.It would need at least one season warning.

Would depend if this whole mess sends any clubs to the wall. I imagine there will be a shortage of available cash from sponsors next season. I really doubt all clubs will survive and reconstruction may become inevitable....

[Ozyhibby]

Would depend if this whole mess sends any clubs to the wall. I imagine there will be a shortage of available cash from sponsors next season. I really doubt all clubs will survive and reconstruction may become inevitable....

That is something that could possibly save Hearts. All clubs are going to take a hit to their incomes next year. I can’t see any premiership team being liquidated though so as long as they wait until the league has been called before going into admin (who would be so cynical?) then it will keep them up this season.


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[James Stephen]

I think you are being deliberately obtuse.

The article suggests that the transfer window will need to be moved to accommodate the finishing of the football season. Similarly it suggest that players whose contract is due to end will be extended to coincide with the transfer window. Nobody is being expected to sign a one month contract. Everything just shifted to allow the season to end with clubs utilising their existing squad.


I think the point is though, that contracts are nothing to do with fifa or uefa.

Extending the transfer window is fine, but each contract is an individual legal agreement between club and player, and it isn't possible to simply roll them on without player and club's consent.

[KeithTheHibby]

League reconstruction is the last thing that shall happen.
It only suits 1 team in the top league and if they weren’t bottom they would be against it too.
We have just signed a brand new tv deal with Sky which no doubts has clauses in it regarding OF games which makes any reconstruction of the league a total non-runner.
FWIW I would rather we played the season to a finish however with every passing day this gets more unlikely.

[blackpoolhibs]

I think the point is though, that contracts are nothing to do with fifa or uefa.

Extending the transfer window is fine, but each contract is an individual legal agreement between club and player, and it isn't possible to simply roll them on without player and club's consent.

I'm still astounded that some people dont know this, and just think a simple extension will suffice.

[SquashedFrogg]

I'm still astounded that some people dont know this, and just think a simple extension will suffice.

Agree. But I wonder if it's a multilateral movement between clubs, associations, then all contracts will/could be altered?

Strange times might see strange solutions.

We have players doing all sorts of deals with their clubs right now. It would take a brave player (particlarly at 'normal' team) to walk away on June 1st for example.

I've no idea if this hypothesis is valid. I just wonder.

[blackpoolhibs]

Agree. But I wonder if it's a multilateral movement between clubs, associations, then all contracts will/could be altered?

Strange times might see strange solutions.

We have players doing all sorts of deals with their clubs right now. It would take a brave player (particlarly at 'normal' team) to walk away on June 1st for example.

I've no idea if this hypothesis is valid. I just wonder.

There is not a hope in hell they can extend someone's contract without both parties agreeing. Of course some could very well agree to a short deal, but can you see any agent agreeing to their client putting their future earnings on the line for a month or so?

[Lancs Harp]

Hibs 11 Aberdeen 0

Subbuteo, Stadio Cambridge Road Lytham this afternoon.

Cant wait to see johnnyboys report on this one we were ace.

[steviehibsleith]

Agree. But I wonder if it's a multilateral movement between clubs, associations, then all contracts will/could be altered?

Strange times might see strange solutions.

We have players doing all sorts of deals with their clubs right now. It would take a brave player (particlarly at 'normal' team) to walk away on June 1st for example.

I've no idea if this hypothesis is valid. I just wonder.

yes but as Blackpool Hibs says the issue is contracts . Ryan Frasers is up June 1 at Bournemouth and Arsenal an other teams are after him.
I’m guessing he could sign for Arsenal with a large signing on fee ... But the league may not over it’s crazy.

[Ozyhibby]

The options for completion.

Null and void :- Almost all involved now agree that is no longer an option.

Finish with current standings (Celtic Champs, Hearts relegated) :- SPFL board decide but they have have already said they will be asking the clubs so a majority decision will do.

Reconstruction :- needs a vote of 75% of all clubs plus 11 out of 12 Premier clubs to vote in favour. That’s a pretty high bar.

Complete the games :- Personally think no chance because of club finances.


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[Ozyhibby]

yes but as Blackpool Hibs says the issue is contracts . Ryan Frasers is up June 1 at Bournemouth and Arsenal an other teams are after him.
I’m guessing he could sign for Arsenal with a large signing on fee ... But the league may not over it’s crazy.

And there are all the loan players to consider. Will Genoa want to send Omeonga back for a month if they have interest from another club to buy him?


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[SquashedFrogg]

There is not a hope in hell they can extend someone's contract without both parties agreeing. Of course some could very well agree to a short deal, but can you see any agent agreeing to their client putting their future earnings on the line for a month or so?


Clearly it would have to be in agreement with the player. That was the point I was agreeing with - That UEFA/FIFA have no say over employment law.

I was just suggesting that maybe as all clubs are in the same boat, that a multilateral move (between clubs and players) could potentially see short term contract extensions across the board.

Yes, there's always going to opportunistic agents, clubs and players.

But when everyone is pleading poverty, maybe there's a balance. Common ground.

I'd suggest more players would want continuous employment,than to sit and wait. Similarly clubs won't sign players whilst claiming Government funding.

I'm not arguing btw. Just trying not to be certain in uncertain times.

I'm off to self isolate.

[Billy Whizz]

The options for completion.

Null and void :- Almost all involved now agree that is no longer an option.

Finish with current standings (Celtic Champs, Hearts relegated) :- SPFL board decide but they have have already said they will be asking the clubs so a majority decision will do.

Reconstruction :- needs a vote of 75% of all clubs plus 11 out of 12 Premier clubs to vote in favour. That’s a pretty high bar.

Complete the games :- Personally think no chance because of club finances.


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Can’t see the likes of Hamilton, St Mirren and Ross County, along with top 6 not voting for current standings
Rangers and Hearts and possibly Killie will
The league reconstruction is an interesting one
You’d have thought the bottom 6 might be interested in it, but that’s just 50%

[Danderhall Hibs]

Can’t see the likes of Hamilton, St Mirren and Ross County, along with top 6 not voting for current standings
Rangers and Hearts and possibly Killie will
The league reconstruction is an interesting one
You’d have thought the bottom 6 might be interested in it, but that’s just 50%

The bottom 6 are less likely to vote for it due to getting the Rangers and Celtic money less often? StJohnstone sell them 3 stands 3 or 4 times a season - reconstruction would drop that to twice.

Why should we change the format of the league just to suit Hearts?

[Ozyhibby]

Only takes two teams to rule out reconstruction and about 6 or 7 have been mentioned already.


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[lord bunberry]

And there are all the loan players to consider. Will Genoa want to send Omeonga back for a month if they have interest from another club to buy him?


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The other issue to consider with just extending players contracts across the board is that you’re forcing clubs to pay wages to players they’ve no intention of playing. It would need to be done on an individual basis.

[KingPat4]

Relegate Hearts.

Anything else?


Who cares?

[WhileTheChief..]

If it comes to a vote on reconstruction that saves Hearts, could our board even consider voting for it??!

I mean, it might “be in the best interest of the game” or whatever we get told, but really, could we?

[The 90+2]

If it comes to a vote on reconstruction that saves Hearts, could our board even consider voting for it??!

I mean, it might “be in the best interest of the game” or whatever we get told, but really, could we?

I would hope the board would gauge supporter opinion. League reconstruction for a season has absolutely no benefits to us apart from a home game against Hearts.

[GreenCastle]

Relegate Hearts then announce reconstruction for the season after? 21/22.

Ideally 16 team league.

So basically it would mean the yams would have to finish in top 4 in championship to make new league.

Or is that being too nice to them ?!!

Forced League reconstruction for next season would seriously stink and as every day passes I can’t see this season restarting especially not even in a closed doors way.

Said it earlier they aren’t allowing the Edinbugh festival / tattoo so can’t see them allowing 20,000 at ER any time soon.

[CA Hibby]

Based on what i am hearing and seeing over here, my view is this

Players taken to training camps for month of June, to improve fitness and stamina. Testing and isolation will be ongoing
Final league games to be played month of July (2/3 games per week) behind closed doors, completing obligations for this season
This way current contracts are honoured and money can be made from TV to offset some of the costs.

Season to start up in end of Aug/Sept with no league cup and there will be no European competition. This will allow for flexibility in case games need to move
Games to be played in reduced stadia capacity with no traveling fans allowed
Review at year end (2020) regards gradual increase and adding traveling supporters

Yes i know most contracts end June, however in these circumstances i can see some kind of agreement taking place with the various leagues and PFA representatives to extend through July 31st. Some players would be unemployed come June and if this escalated and football did not start until later this year if at all, then these guys might be on unemployment and not furloughed.

What the issue is and i think is what everybody is waiting on, is when is the peak ? and the subsequent flattening out of the spread. I don't think anybody wants to make a call while there is still that glimmer that we might be able to kick a ball. We are starting to see in Italy and Spain the peak has been reached and we will have learned a lot from these countries in regards to managing across the rest of the world

Unfortunately its a waiting game and i still believe we have at least two weeks until we really need to make a call so that resources can be sourced for accommodating training camps, finalizing placings, etc. However waiting is not anybodies strong point.

[Brooster]

Finish with current standings must surely be close to being announced.

[Ozyhibby]

Relegate Hearts then announce reconstruction for the season after? 21/22.

Ideally 16 team league.

So basically it would mean the yams would have to finish in top 4 in championship to make new league.

Or is that being too nice to them ?!!

Forced League reconstruction for next season would seriously stink and as every day passes I can’t see this season restarting especially not even in a closed doors way.

Said it earlier they aren’t allowing the Edinbugh festival / tattoo so can’t see them allowing 20,000 at ER any time soon.

A 16 team league is about the least likely number of teams that could ever be approved.
Only 30 league games? That would mean every season as short as this one. Clubs finances couldn’t cope with that. And only two old firm games? Not sure TV companies would pay as much for that.


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[Moulin Yarns]

Based on what i am hearing and seeing over here, my view is this

Players taken to training camps for month of June, to improve fitness and stamina. Testing and isolation will be ongoing
Final league games to be played month of July (2/3 games per week) behind closed doors, completing obligations for this season
This way current contracts are honoured and money can be made from TV to offset some of the costs.

Season to start up in end of Aug/Sept with no league cup and there will be no European competition. This will allow for flexibility in case games need to move
Games to be played in reduced stadia capacity with no traveling fans allowed
Review at year end (2020) regards gradual increase and adding traveling supporters

Yes i know most contracts end June, however in these circumstances i can see some kind of agreement taking place with the various leagues and PFA representatives to extend through July 31st. Some players would be unemployed come June and if this escalated and football did not start until later this year if at all, then these guys might be on unemployment and not furloughed.

What the issue is and i think is what everybody is waiting on, is when is the peak ? and the subsequent flattening out of the spread. I don't think anybody wants to make a call while there is still that glimmer that we might be able to kick a ball. We are starting to see in Italy and Spain the peak has been reached and we will have learned a lot from these countries in regards to managing across the rest of the world

Unfortunately its a waiting game and i still believe we have at least two weeks until we really need to make a call so that resources can be sourced for accommodating training camps, finalizing placings, etc. However waiting is not anybodies strong point.

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[mcohibs]

Said it earlier they aren’t allowing the Edinbugh festival / tattoo so can’t see them allowing 20,000 at ER any time soon.

The Edinburgh Festival and a Hibs game are simply not comparible.

3 million people at the festival last year from every corner of the world for the duration of a month... While it is obviously and rightly still a while off, we'll see a Hibs game with spectators long before the festival ever opens its doors again.

[givescotlandfreedom]

The league construction argument that Mikey Stewart and other Hearts fans are using is a nonsense to protect their own club - none of them were asking for it before this. It's quite typical of them not to accept that if the games can't go ahead they've simply been the worst club in the league and deserve to finish last.

[Real Emerald]

If it comes to a vote on reconstruction that saves Hearts, could our board even consider voting for it??!

I mean, it might “be in the best interest of the game” or whatever we get told, but really, could we?

Next season needs to be saved (if possible) at all costs, it’s a season with the best TV deal we’ve had in a long while based on the current league set up. You can void a season if only 8 games have been played but not if 30 have been played and only 8 remain. You can’t decide the outcome of a season on what may have happened in the 8 remaining games so you need to make a decision based on what actually happened in the 30 games that have actually been played. It is really as simple as that.

Next season (if possible) to be played as planned with the agreed set up,

This season to be finished as it stands based on the majority of games being played. Not ideal but you can’t play the season out with different squads later in the day plus the restrictions next season may have.

So Hibs have to vote for the status quo and placings as they are, which Hearts would have voted for too if they’d been sitting mid table.

[lord bunberry]

Based on what i am hearing and seeing over here, my view is this

Players taken to training camps for month of June, to improve fitness and stamina. Testing and isolation will be ongoing
Final league games to be played month of July (2/3 games per week) behind closed doors, completing obligations for this season
This way current contracts are honoured and money can be made from TV to offset some of the costs.

Season to start up in end of Aug/Sept with no league cup and there will be no European competition. This will allow for flexibility in case games need to move
Games to be played in reduced stadia capacity with no traveling fans allowed
Review at year end (2020) regards gradual increase and adding traveling supporters

Yes i know most contracts end June, however in these circumstances i can see some kind of agreement taking place with the various leagues and PFA representatives to extend through July 31st. Some players would be unemployed come June and if this escalated and football did not start until later this year if at all, then these guys might be on unemployment and not furloughed.

What the issue is and i think is what everybody is waiting on, is when is the peak ? and the subsequent flattening out of the spread. I don't think anybody wants to make a call while there is still that glimmer that we might be able to kick a ball. We are starting to see in Italy and Spain the peak has been reached and we will have learned a lot from these countries in regards to managing across the rest of the world

Unfortunately its a waiting game and i still believe we have at least two weeks until we really need to make a call so that resources can be sourced for accommodating training camps, finalizing placings, etc. However waiting is not anybodies strong point.
None of that will happen. There’s no way the pfa will agree to extend all contracts as that amounts to slave labour. You can’t make a player extend his contract if he’s got another club lined up, he’s not going to risk it. This season is over and all the fantasy scenarios to finish it aren’t going to happen. There will be lots of talk about finishing this season, but it will be just that. The main concern from every club right now is whether next season can start on time with fans in the stadium.

[JimBHibees]

A 16 team league is about the least likely number of teams that could ever be approved.
Only 30 league games? That would mean every season as short as this one. Clubs finances couldn’t cope with that. And only two old firm games? Not sure TV companies would pay as much for that.


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Unless all played each other twice then some sort of play off with top 6 playing each other twice more. Unlikely I would have thought but you never know.

[JimBHibees]

Next season needs to be saved (if possible) at all costs, it’s a season with the best TV deal we’ve had in a long while based on the current league set up. You can void a season if only 8 games have been played but not if 30 have been played and only 8 remain. You can’t decide the outcome of a season on what may have happened in the 8 remaining games so you need to make a decision based on what actually happened in the 30 games that have actually been played. It is really as simple as that.

Next season (if possible) to be played as planned with the agreed set up,

This season to be finished as it stands based on the majority of games being played. Not ideal but you can’t play the season out with different squads later in the day plus the restrictions next season may have.

So Hibs have to vote for the status quo and placings as they are, which Hearts would have voted for too if they’d been sitting mid table.

or simply not bottom of the league.

[Since452]

Next season needs to be saved (if possible) at all costs, it’s a season with the best TV deal we’ve had in a long while based on the current league set up. You can void a season if only 8 games have been played but not if 30 have been played and only 8 remain. You can’t decide the outcome of a season on what may have happened in the 8 remaining games so you need to make a decision based on what actually happened in the 30 games that have actually been played. It is really as simple as that.

Next season (if possible) to be played as planned with the agreed set up,

This season to be finished as it stands based on the majority of games being played. Not ideal but you can’t play the season out with different squads later in the day plus the restrictions next season may have.

So Hibs have to vote for the status quo and placings as they are, which Hearts would have voted for too if they’d been sitting mid table.

I absolutely agree. Next season should now be the priority. There's only 8 games left in this season. In my opinion we should be calling this season as is right now and putting plans in place to hopefully get next season started as close to the planned start date as possible. The longer we delay this season the more it impacts next season.

[BoomtownHibees]

The Dutch league are starting again on the 19th June and playing behind closed doors

[mjhibby]

yes but as Blackpool Hibs says the issue is contracts . Ryan Frasers is up June 1 at Bournemouth and Arsenal an other teams are after him.
I’m guessing he could sign for Arsenal with a large signing on fee ... But the league may not over it’s crazy.

I'm sure it's now been agreed that players will stay at their current club till the season finishes and that any new signings for next season can only play for their new club once the new season begins. That's my understanding and something I thought would happen as it's the only course if action you can do with players going out of contract otherwise there will be chaos

[Danderhall Hibs]

I'm sure it's now been agreed that players will stay at their current club till the season finishes and that any new signings for next season can only play for their new club once the new season begins. That's my understanding and something I thought would happen as it's the only course if action you can do with players going out of contract otherwise there will be chaos

What if a player doesn’t want to? What if a club doesn’t want the player?

[GreenCastle]

The Edinburgh Festival and a Hibs game are simply not comparible.

3 million people at the festival last year from every corner of the world for the duration of a month... While it is obviously and rightly still a while off, we'll see a Hibs game with spectators long before the festival ever opens its doors again.

I agree they are different but the tattoo still has large crowds gathering together. But obviously with the real international element.

I just can’t see them opening up Easter Road and saying all is good to watch games any time soon. Let alone Ibrox or Celtic Park.

The club would have to do a deep clean of the stadium too. Turnstiles / improve hand wash facilities / catering / hospitality etc.

[Ozyhibby]

I'm sure it's now been agreed that players will stay at their current club till the season finishes and that any new signings for next season can only play for their new club once the new season begins. That's my understanding and something I thought would happen as it's the only course if action you can do with players going out of contract otherwise there will be chaos

That is complete nonsense.


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[The 90+2]

What stops clubs signing rival out of contract players on three month deals on massive wages if the season is to be expected? Hearts sign the St Mirren goalie for example? How would that be fair? It legitimately could happen though.

[Danderhall Hibs]

What stops clubs signing rival out of contract players on three month deals on massive wages if the season is to be expected? Hearts sign the St Mirren goalie for example? How would that be fair? It legitimately could happen though.

:agree: all adds to the complexity. I’ve no idea how folk think this season can be played to a finish - could be cos SSN keep having ex players on saying that “it must happen”.

It can’t.

[Ozyhibby]

:agree: all adds to the complexity. I’ve no idea how folk think this season can be played to a finish - could be cos SSN keep having ex players on saying that “it must happen”.

It can’t.

It’s not difficult to find players who are not that smart.


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[greenpaper55]

Big meeting of the clubs today me thinks, they will probably kick the can down the road as they might be looking for some direction from UEFA ? I don't see how European games can take place for the foreseeable, imagine stuffing a team and it's officials in an aluminium tube for a few hours and sitting a few feet apart to arrive at a destination that might still have the virus ? it is not possible. This might be the case all this year and i think UEFA are having a panic attack when they think of the lost revenue ?

[mjhibby]

That is complete nonsense.


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I'm afraid it's not. It has been agreed in principle by uefa and they will be recommending the leagues on Europe to do this. How else can we extend the leagues to say September. Under normal rules any player playing in this season's games will have to have be signed no later than the end of January. The only exception would be guys who didn't have a club at the end of January.

[GreenCastle]

For folk saying no European competition next season???

That’s what the big clubs strive for so surely they aren’t going to suddenly going to scrap the Europa League or Champions League. Massive source of income would be lost. (What about the Man City ban).

Though the qualifiers usually start very early so they do have to figure out a way to manage that.

I do agree UEFA are in a massive panic as they need the calendar to sync up for games to be played and not get in the way of international games.

[G B Young]

Big meeting of the clubs today me thinks, they will probably kick the can down the road as they might be looking for some direction from UEFA ? I don't see how European games can take place for the foreseeable, imagine stuffing a team and it's officials in an aluminium tube for a few hours and sitting a few feet apart to arrive at a destination that might still have the virus ? it is not possible. This might be the case all this year and i think UEFA are having a panic attack when they think of the lost revenue ?

Times claiming that they may test the water by calling the Championship and Leagues One and Two today. Not sure where that would leave Dundee United though if they don't call the Premiership as well.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/spfl-may-call-time-on-lower-leagues-to-test-the-water-phfq8wgdd

[mjhibby]

:agree: all adds to the complexity. I’ve no idea how folk think this season can be played to a finish - could be cos SSN keep having ex players on saying that “it must happen”.

It can’t.

It's all very well ex players bumping their gums but the reality is
1. The govt decides if and when we can even play closed door he's and if and when there can be fans at games.
2. All top sport in Britain is shut down till the end of June. The open,the Epsom derby and Wimbledon to name but three aren't happening. Why folk think that players will be able to train properly by mid-June I find amazing.
3. If we keep kicking the can down the road clubs in our lower divisions and league one and two in England will go into Administration. If there is no sign of football happening by the end of may the leagues will have to finished so clubs can get their prize money to basically keep functioning.
4. How the hell can the wee diddy leagues like ours finish the season by end of July/begining so we can have our clubs enter the uefa competitions.
Hopefully there will be a definite date set when we have to be back playing to finish the season and as soon as that look like not happening call the leagues whichever way.

[G B Young]

I'm sure it's now been agreed that players will stay at their current club till the season finishes and that any new signings for next season can only play for their new club once the new season begins. That's my understanding and something I thought would happen as it's the only course if action you can do with players going out of contract otherwise there will be chaos

There's not a chance this season can be finished in the foreseeable future. I heard Sadiq Khan on the radio this morning saying the UK is 'nowhere near' ending the lockdown so there's not even a sign that players can start proper training again any time soon, let alone play a match. Uefa appear to be the only ones who can't grasp that.

It's becoming increasingly laughable when you hear so-called football experts parroting the phrase about 'not being rushed into a decision'. We've had no football for weeks now. How much time do they need to see that the least complex solution to all this is to end the season now so that there's at least a possibility of starting next season afresh before the end of the year? As far as I can see all other sports have bitten the bullet and either ended their seasons or cancelled/postponed major events. Why should football be any different? We live in extraordinary times and while many may be missing their sports fix, the vast majority are sensible enough to shrug their shoulders and just get on with it.

[Del Boy]

Times claiming that they may test the water by calling the Championship and Leagues One and Two today. Not sure where that would leave Dundee United though if they don't call the Premiership as well.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/spfl-may-call-time-on-lower-leagues-to-test-the-water-phfq8wgdd

Assume United would be promoted and just wait to see if premier can be played or not to see who is relegated

[matty_f]

It's all very well ex players bumping their gums but the reality is
1. The govt decides if and when we can even play closed door he's and if and when there can be fans at games.
2. All top sport in Britain is shut down till the end of June. The open,the Epsom derby and Wimbledon to name but three aren't happening. Why folk think that players will be able to train properly by mid-June I find amazing.
3. If we keep kicking the can down the road clubs in our lower divisions and league one and two in England will go into Administration. If there is no sign of football happening by the end of may the leagues will have to finished so clubs can get their prize money to basically keep functioning.
4. How the hell can the wee diddy leagues like ours finish the season by end of July/begining so we can have our clubs enter the uefa competitions.
Hopefully there will be a definite date set when we have to be back playing to finish the season and as soon as that look like not happening call the leagues whichever way.

The players are employees on fixed term contracts. At the end of that contact it's up to the employee and the employer to agree what happens next.
If the player doesn't fancy an extension there's absolutely nothing forcing them to.

The idea of extending the season is a complete non-starter for those very reasons.

[Danderhall Hibs]

The players are employees on fixed term contracts. At the end of that contact it's up to the employee and the employer to agree what happens next.
If the player doesn't fancy an extension there's absolutely nothing forcing them to.

The idea of extending the season is a complete non-starter for those very reasons.

And clubs will want rid off some dead wood - they won’t want to be paying wages for an extra few months to those guys.

[BoomtownHibees]

I'm afraid it's not. It has been agreed in principle by uefa and they will be recommending the leagues on Europe to do this. How else can we extend the leagues to say September. Under normal rules any player playing in this season's games will have to have be signed no later than the end of January. The only exception would be guys who didn't have a club at the end of January.

You can’t force a player to have their contract extended

[mcohibs]

I agree they are different but the tattoo still has large crowds gathering together. But obviously with the real international element.

I just can’t see them opening up Easter Road and saying all is good to watch games any time soon. Let alone Ibrox or Celtic Park.

The club would have to do a deep clean of the stadium too. Turnstiles / improve hand wash facilities / catering / hospitality etc.

Yeah, it will be a while before any football ground allows spectators.

I do think though that things like the tattoo being cancelled aren't solely due to whether or not it will be safe to host something like that in August but also to do with the amount of planning, rehearsing and logistics that go in to these events (which would have been happening now if not for COVID)

[Gmack7]

I would hope the board would gauge supporter opinion. League reconstruction for a season has absolutely no benefits to us apart from a home game against Hearts.

the additional game is not guaranteed with them continually floundering around in the bottom 6 or rock bottom in this case

[GreenCastle]

Assume United would be promoted and just wait to see if premier can be played or not to see who is relegated

Scottish football and it’s joined up thinking.

Didn’t read the full Times article as don’t have access but testing the water ?

Surely you make a decision and stick by it.

Surely they can’t say Dundee Utd are champions and can be promoted but Premier League says they can’t come up or they go for reconstruction as they bottle relegating Hearts.

Bayern Munich we’re back training yesterday in small groups of 5.

Teams / clubs will try to find a way round it / but wider issue is still travel bans - Omeonga is back in Belgium - so how would he get back to Edinburgh. Plus most important issue of the government actually giving the all clear.

76 days in lockdown for Wuhan (they just relaxed lockdown) and and if we follow similar it takes us to June 6th (though I think the U.K. will relax slightly before..probably late May) - 2 months of non stop football and no fans and no summer break / winter break?? Plus the contracts / transfer window .. going to be madness if they try to force it through.

[Del Boy]

https://news.stv.tv/sport/spfl-clubs-to-vote-on-season-end-but-premiership-not-clear-cut?top

[KingPat4]

The lack of proper leadership from EUFA is disgusting.

[Ozyhibby]

Yeah, it will be a while before any football ground allows spectators.

I do think though that things like the tattoo being cancelled aren't solely due to whether or not it will be safe to host something like that in August but also to do with the amount of planning, rehearsing and logistics that go in to these events (which would have been happening now if not for COVID)

Even the building of the stands to host the tattoo could not go ahead in lockdown so may not be ready in time.


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[SHODAN]

If it is finished it'll be on points per game. Means we'd finish 7th.

[The 90+2]

https://spfl.co.uk/news/spfl-clubs-to-vote-on-curtailment-of-ladbrokes-s?fbclid=IwAR3324NEGCVPHz5y1GsGG09xdHaggkvFaJ71ftb 5iDGi6NEPaqDm1LinUWI

[Pretty Boy]

If it is finished it'll be on points per game. Means we'd finish 7th.

7th?!

Ross out.

[blackpoolhibs]

I'm afraid it's not. It has been agreed in principle by uefa and they will be recommending the leagues on Europe to do this. How else can we extend the leagues to say September. Under normal rules any player playing in this season's games will have to have be signed no later than the end of January. The only exception would be guys who didn't have a club at the end of January.

You cant really believe all that surely?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Chris McLaughlin (bbc) saying if season can’t be finished the current league positions will stand.

[H18 SFR]

Chris McLaughlin (bbc) saying if season can’t be finished the current league positions will stand.

That contradicts what the SPFL press release says?

[we are hibs]

That contradicts what the SPFL press release says?

It doesnt really. It will be decided on point averages which still returns celtic as champions and hearts relegated

[Danderhall Hibs]

That contradicts what the SPFL press release says?

He tweeted this at 1306:

Resolution going to clubs to vote on termination of current season in Scottish Championship, League 1 and 2. Premiership remains postponed indefinitely as they look for ways to finish it. if it can’t be finished it will be called as is.

[Green Badger]

That contradicts what the SPFL press release says?

Here’s what they say:
However, if the SPFL Board determines that the remaining Premiership matches cannot be played, the Ladbrokes Premiership would also be terminated, with final season placings determined on the same basis.

[Blaster]

If the resolution is approved, the SPFL has also committed to consulting with Clubs over the possibility of League restructuring ahead of Season 2020/21.

From the SPFL statement

[we are hibs]

League reconstruction also being mentioned. I doubt enough clubs will vote for that.

[Ozyhibby]

https://spfl.co.uk/news/spfl-clubs-to-vote-on-curtailment-of-ladbrokes-s?fbclid=IwAR3324NEGCVPHz5y1GsGG09xdHaggkvFaJ71ftb 5iDGi6NEPaqDm1LinUWI

Only two escapes left for Hearts now.
Playing the games in June (no chance) and reconstruction (very unlikely given the voting structure).
They are about to be relegated. Marvellous.[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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[Carheenlea]

Hearts will be going down. I also think that’s the last we will have seen of Daniel Stendal.

[Del Boy]

Vote needs 75% of the 42 Clubs, should get that ok?

[Peevemor]

Vote needs 75% of the 42 Clubs, should get that ok?

I can only see Hearts, Partick & Falkirk voting against (maybe Airdrie).

[we are hibs]

I cant see 4 clubs voting against it in the top flight. Im sure the aberdeen chairman already said they want to end it as it is. Assume hibs would. Motherwell 3rd so presumably would. Hamilton and st.mirren would.

[ElginHibbie]

Vote needs 75% of the 42 Clubs, should get that ok?

Broken down a bit apparently, it needs:

75% of prem clubs to vote in favour (9)#
75% of champ clubs to vote in favour (8)
75 % of League 1 + 2 combined (15).

Championship be only one I could see maybe being an issue unless it's been decided already playoffs won't happen

[Bostonhibby]

Hearts will be going down. I also think that’s the last we will have seen of Daniel Stendal.So he's going to press the gugen button and exit the team he'd never heard of anyway but he still gets to notch another relegation onto his bar stool.

Pleasing.

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[Ozyhibby]

So he's going to press the gugen button and exit the team he'd never heard of anyway but he still gets to notch another relegation onto his bar stool.

Pleasing.

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Comes in for 4 months, relegated Hearts, never heard of again. ******* Legend.


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[Peevemor]

Comes in for 4 months, relegated Hearts, never heard of again. ******* Legend.

I think it was probably him that spread the virus too - flapping his tongue around like that...

[Ozyhibby]

I think it was probably him that spread the virus too - flapping his tongue around like that...

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[Bostonhibby]

Comes in for 4 months, relegated Hearts, never heard of again. ******* Legend.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSurely some sort of statue on the piazza del Championship, or maybe outside the newly named Arbroath view lounge is appropriate.

In their current impoverished state they could maybe bake one?

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[Del Boy]

Broken down a bit apparently, it needs:

75% of prem clubs to vote in favour (9)#
75% of champ clubs to vote in favour (8)
75 % of League 1 + 2 combined (15).

Championship be only one I could see maybe being an issue unless it's been decided already playoffs won't happen


And what do they do if they don’t get enough votes?

[danhibees1875]

If they end it on points per game then Hibs are the only team to lose out on their league position. But here we are, accepting it with grace and dignity.

[Ozyhibby]

And what do they do if they don’t get enough votes?

I doubt it would be going to a vote at this stage unless they knew they had the votes in the bag.


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[lucky]

I think the season should be played out when it can be. If it starts again in August or September so be it. You could then start the new season two weeks later and play twice a week until we catch up. It’s not ideal but stopping the season now is worse. I do admit I’d have a laugh at them going down but the reality is the Derby’s are the best games of the season .

[Ozyhibby]

I think the season should be played out when it can be. If it starts again in August or September so be it. You could then start the new season two weeks later and play twice a week until we catch up. It’s not ideal but stopping the season now is worse. I do admit I’d have a laugh at them going down but the reality is the Derby’s are the best games of the season .

No longer on the table.[emoji849]


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[BoomtownHibees]

Denied top 6 by 0.008 points 😂

[Gmack7]

Denied top 6 by 0.008 points 😂

shoooorly its alphabetical order

[cocteautwin]

If they end it on points per game then Hibs are the only team to lose out on their league position. But here we are, accepting it with grace and dignity.

With grace dignity honour and a smile on our faces. Is there a gofundme page we can send money to to help accept the situation?

[BoomtownHibees]

shoooorly its alphabetical order

Points per game

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/spfl-ticking-clock-clubs-set-21834934.amp?__twitter_impression=true


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[Ozyhibby]

https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/club-statement-93

Statement from Sevco as expected. Need to show they are against giving Celtic the league but happy to distribute the money as they need it. They won’t be challenging legally.


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[Causewayside PR]

Sorry if this has already been mentioned but

If the points averaging system is used would Hibe be placed 6th or 7th??? St Johnstone 1 point behind and points average 1.24. Not sure of any historic examples but could they finish the season on something.24 points? Not sure how significant the financial hit is between finishing 6th or 7th?

Don't think any of the above will make any difference to how Hibs vote though!

[A Hi-Bee]

So the club that used to be known as the old senoir hun says if the smellies get the title it should have an asterisk against it for this season, would that also mean that for all the tainted titles they had while skimming her majesty's tax man would also have an asterisk against them.
What a shower they are, and the diet hun are getting about as bad with the entitlement crap the deluded ones come out with.
End the season Hibs lose a fair chunk of cash and the hertz go down, thats just the way it is, suck it up.

[Sir David Gray]

I can't understand why the Championship and Leagues 1 and 2 would be brought to an end but the Premiership wouldn't for the time being.

Surely if it was possible to finish the Premiership (highly unlikely but that's the reason given for delaying the decision on the Premiership) then it would also be possible to finish the other three leagues? :confused:

[Ozyhibby]

I can't understand why the Championship and Leagues 1 and 2 would be brought to an end but the Premiership wouldn't for the time being.

Surely if it was possible to finish the Premiership (highly unlikely but that's the reason given for delaying the decision on the Premiership) then it would also be possible to finish the other three leagues? :confused:

The premiership would be finished now as well but they are waiting to get the green light from UEFA. They have set a deadline of the end of April though for a decision. If football can’t start by then they will call it for the premier league as well.


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[Ozyhibby]

Partick are against as well but it’s another empty statement. They won’t go legal.

https://news.stv.tv/sport/partick-thistle-can-not-accept-spfl-league-plans?top&amp&__twitter_impression=true

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[Antifa Hibs]

If they end it on points per game then Hibs are the only team to lose out on their league position. But here we are, accepting it with grace and dignity.

Hope the board don't vote against it - hiding behind the fact we'd finish 7th as an excuse.

A derby is worth what? 4000 Hertz at average of £25 a ticket = £100,000. 2000 Hibs walk-ups at £25 = £50,000. 500 hospitality tickets at £150 £75,000. Times that by two should we finish in the same split and having Hearts in the league for the club is worth no far off half a million quid.


Get them to **** in the championship though. Sporting integrity etc :agree: :aok:

[G B Young]

https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/club-statement-93

Statement from Sevco as expected. Need to show they are against giving Celtic the league but happy to distribute the money as they need it. They won’t be challenging legally.


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Sevco are pathetic. Yam-esque.

[rossevenil]

The Hypocrisy of Sevco in wanting the Prize money but not willing to accept the end of the season is unbelievable,so which prize would you like Sevco seeing as you aren`t apparently willing to accept
Celtic have won the league as it stands? A merging of 1st and 2nd place prizes split 50/50?? Or are the quietly happy accept the 2nd place cash to get them out the crapper??

Otherwise why not just get all the prize money into 1 pot and divide it equally between 12,sure they would love that outcome!

[G B Young]

Even Tom English appears to have accepted his beloved yams are down, though he's clinging to the liferaft of league reconstruction.

[weecounty hibby]

Just relegate the worst team. Tell you what to make it sporting, forget about just this season, let's relegate the team who has been statistically the worst over the last 12 months. Any ideas who that might be?

[GreenCastle]

The Hypocrisy of Sevco in wanting the Prize money but not willing to accept the end of the season is unbelievable,so which prize would you like Sevco seeing as you aren`t apparently willing to accept
Celtic have won the league as it stands? A merging of 1st and 2nd place prizes split 50/50?? Or are the quietly happy accept the 2nd place cash to get them out the crapper??


Otherwise why not just get all the prize money into 1 pot and divide it equally between 12,sure they would love that outcome!

Exactly this.

Statement contradicts itself all over the place.

They are desperate for £££ basically as they are skint.

Desperate times for the huns and wee huns.

[Sir David Gray]

The premiership would be finished now as well but they are waiting to get the green light from UEFA. They have set a deadline of the end of April though for a decision. If football can’t start by then they will call it for the premier league as well.


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Then surely the other leagues should wait until the end of April as well?

It just seems a bit daft having 3 leagues out 4 declaring their season over and 1 deciding to hold off.

[Sioux]

Then surely the other leagues should wait until the end of April as well?

It just seems a bit daft having 3 leagues out 4 declaring their season over and 1 deciding to hold off.

Its all to do with these A holes at UEFA who continue to make it up as they go along to save their money tree.

[JeMeSouviens]

Even Tom English appears to have accepted his beloved yams are down, though he's clinging to the liferaft of league reconstruction.


For Hearts to avoid the drop they would require the support of 11 out of 12 of the top flight clubs as well as the backing of 75 per cent of the other three divisions.

Hope he's a good swimmer. :wink:

[Kato]

I can't understand why the Championship and Leagues 1 and 2 would be brought to an end but the Premiership wouldn't for the time being.



Yes its hard to comprehend but I'm willing to bet that it's because, maybe, just maybe, it's the division The Rangers play in and our authorities are willing to bend over in whatever direction The Rangers want them to in order to placate them. Might sound fantastical but there you go.

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[joe breezy]

Pretty poor proposal in terms of fairness.

Partick Thistle who have a game in hand against the only team they have already beat twice this season, ICT, get relegated, whilst Hearts get to stay up?!

I hope Hibs don't vote for this.

[BoomtownHibees]

Pretty poor proposal in terms of fairness.

Partick Thistle who have a game in hand against the only team they have already beat twice this season, ICT, get relegated, whilst Hearts get to stay up?!

I hope Hibs don't vote for this.

How would you like to see it decided?

[joe breezy]

How would you like to see it decided?

They should get to play their game in hand v Inverness.
Or they expand the championship as well as the Premiership.

Doesn’t feel fair when it’s a couple of points and a team has a game in hand.

[ballengeich]

Then surely the other leagues should wait until the end of April as well?

It just seems a bit daft having 3 leagues out 4 declaring their season over and 1 deciding to hold off.

There's a financial implication if games behind closed door games become allowable for tv purposes. Only the premier gets any significant money for this. For the others a behind closed doors match is just an unwanted expense.

[greenpaper55]

Surely if Rangers accept the money for second place they must be conceding the title ?

[Billy Whizz]

Derek McInnes on Clyde just now, urging not to close the league down
They have visions of catching Motherwell, so I presume that’s another who won’t vote for it

[Ozyhibby]

Surely if Rangers accept the money for second place they must be conceding the title ?

They want the money but the have to show their dipstick fans they are really really angry about it. They’re not really but still it’s the thought that counts. What they really need is that money. Yesterday.


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[Ozyhibby]

Derek McInnes on Clyde just now, urging not to close the league down
They have visions of catching Motherwell, so I presume that’s another who won’t vote for it

He doesn’t own Aberdeen. They will vote for it. Everyone will be putting out statements about wishing they could play etc etc. In the end they will vote for the deal.


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[Danderhall Hibs]

Derek McInnes on Clyde just now, urging not to close the league down
They have visions of catching Motherwell, so I presume that’s another who won’t vote for it

Is he advocating playing the games later? Clubs will go bust if they wait until September or October.

[BoomtownHibees]

They should get to play their game in hand v Inverness.
Or they expand the championship as well as the Premiership.

Doesn’t feel fair when it’s a couple of points and a team has a game in hand.

When and how would they play that game though? How long will they wait?

[Billy Whizz]

Is he advocating playing the games later? Clubs will go bust if they wait until September or October.

Playing them behind closed doors to complete the season
He says he wasn’t saying how Aberdeen would vote.

Interesting point is he said the new Sky deal starting in August, was so important to the Premiership
Reporter also mentioned he thought Celtic may vote to complete the season too, so their 9th title isn’t tarnished
McInnes also said no rush, let’s wait until UEFA meeting on 23rd April

[sean04]

Is he advocating playing the games later? Clubs will go bust if they wait until September or October.

Can’t wait that long, sky have a deal in place for august. Tv deal is huge for every club in Scotland