Sky sports news Celtic bid for McGinn turned down

[The Leith Dutch]

There's currently nothing on the table for him.

He won't sign an extension while the window is open but after that, who knows.

They may not have spoken to him but it's "on the table" in the sense that Celtic are bidding for him so he knows it's an option and he'll know as well as anybody that a move to Celtic will be on significantly more than his current Hibs wage plus 2k. So to all meaningful intents and purposes it's an option for him.

It probably speaks volumes for his character that he's not forcing the issue right now.
I'd be very surprised if what we're seeing right now isn't just haggling so that each club gets the right deal.

[jeffers]

?? If he stay this season and we sell him next summer for £5m then everyone benefits? He gets extra wages from now and a big part of the sale fee and we get more than we are being offered now and more than we would get if he leaves for nothing next season.


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Again, if noone is willing to offer more than £2M this summer why would they offer £5M next summer ?

[Ozyhibby]

Again, if noone is willing to offer more than £2M this summer why would they offer £5M next summer ?

Maybe he has another amazing season, amasses a few more Scotland caps and lights up the Europa league? [emoji3]


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[B.H.F.C]

McGinn ain’t signing a new deal. No chance.

Potentially limits his options. And any fee they are willing to pay can go to him instead (not the whole amount necessarily).

I’ll just settle for getting to watch him for another year to be honest. Because no amount of money guarantees what we get from him IMO.

[jeffers]

Maybe he has another amazing season, amasses a few more Scotland caps and lights up the Europa league? [emoji3]


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That would be amazing !

[Nutmegged]

Again, if noone is willing to offer more than £2M this summer why would they offer £5M next summer ?

That'll be quite a modest fee for a Europa League winner

[3pm]

I’m sick of this **** now.

[CropleyWasGod]

That'll be quite a modest fee for a Europa League winnerEuropa league winners are automatically in the next season's Champions League.

Just saying.

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[Ozyhibby]

Europa league winners are automatically in the next season's Champions League.

Just saying.

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When you put it like that it shows a real lack of ambition if he wants to leave. [emoji3]


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[ancient hibee]

If it was a realistically high release fee it would be a good deal for Hibs.The club will hopefully never go for it with a low release fee,it would be pointless.

[DetroitHibs]

St Mirren won't be wanting him to leave for nothing either. I see a slim chance that he signs an extension with a release clause built in.

[Austinho]

St Mirren won't be wanting him to leave for nothing either. I see a slim chance that he signs an extension with a release clause built in.I don’t know if St Mirren will be in SJM’s thoughts - not sure he left on good terms after the corner flag stabbing incident?

[CraigHibee]

I’m sick of this **** now.

Snap, just want it over and done with either way

[calumhibee1]

I don’t know if St Mirren will be in SJM’s thoughts - not sure he left on good terms after the corner flag stabbing incident?

I don’t think St Mirren or Hibs will be. I’m sure he’d prefer both us to get as big a fee as possible but this is his career he’s making the move for, not to fill the coffers of Hibs and St Mirren. Being a free agent next summer would open up all sorts of moves for him and probably give him a better negotiating position when it comes to wages/signing on fee since he won’t be costing teams a penny. He’d be mental to sign a new deal.

[BILLYHIBS]

Looks like SJM might be staying after all. I spoke to a Celtic fan on Saturday night asked him “Why the low ball bids?” His reply was “Bench warmer!” SJM I hope you are reading this! Much better playing every week at ER than sitting on a smellie bench being a bit part player. Tell them to BOLT!

[Jim44]

Looks like SJM might be staying after all. I spoke to a Celtic fan on Saturday night asked him “Why the low ball bids?” His reply was “Bench warmer!” SJM I hope you are reading this! Much better playing every week at ER than sitting on a smellie bench being a bit part player. Tell them to BOLT!

That’s the view of a lot of supporters and, if you look at their squad, probably where he will initially start off if he goes there. McGinn himself will be aware of that, will either steer clear or take on the challenge. I think the latter will happen.

[The Spaceman]

Would rather we kept him for one more season and let him go for nothing at the end of it than accept a £2m offer from Celtic.

Accepting a low bid just sets a precedent for these vultures going forward.

[DetroitHibs]

I've seen a lot of players that have been the "main man" for Hibs leave for Celtic and Rangers and fail to dominate and be a game changer like they were for us. I think the same thing has happened with Swanson. He was the main man for St Johnstone and never been able to really dominate for us or Hearts. Honestly John would be much better off staying another season, playing in Europe and establishing himself in the Scotland team.

[Since90+2]

Would rather we kept him for one more season and let him go for nothing at the end of it than accept a £2m offer from Celtic.

Accepting a low bid just sets a precedent for these vultures going forward.

Agreed. I think the club are looking to put down a marker for potential future transfers that we will only sell on our terms. Kamberi for instance will likely be attracting offers this time next year.

[BILLYHIBS]

Would rather we kept him for one more season and let him go for nothing at the end of it than accept a £2m offer from Celtic.

Accepting a low bid just sets a precedent for these vultures going forward.
This. That was what I was trying to say SJM worth more to us than he is to Celtic at this point in time. Tell them to BOLT! :thumbsup:

[BILLYHIBS]

I've seen a lot of players that have been the "main man" for Hibs leave for Celtic and Rangers and fail to dominate and be a game changer like they were for us. I think the same thing has happened with Swanson. He was the main man for St Johnstone and never been able to really dominate for us or Hearts. Honestly John would be much better off staying another season, playing in Europe and establishing himself in the Scotland team.
To be fair Danny has not had his troubles to seek. Every Hibby myself included was hoping Danny would replicate his St Johnstone form in a HIBS jersey but looks as though time might be running out for him.

[DetroitHibs]

Another way to look at it. Having McGinn for next season could easily see us make 2 million from the league position, cup runs and European placing. He was the difference last week and no matter who we sign as a replacement, they won't be of the standard of John. And that's all without the cut that we have to give St Mirren. Unless it's nearer 4 million, they can bolt.

[scotiaf]

I’d love for Hibs to keep him for another season, however I think both parties want to make money ( Hibs/Mcginn). We most definitely need him if we want to progress on Thursday. Who ever we sign will
not be as good as Mcginn( someone that drives 20 yards with the ball and someone who has a good left foot switch to where Boyle normally is. We will need to change the way we play minus Mcginn & Mcgeough, it will be Lennon’s biggest test to try and balance it out

[flash]

Looks like SJM might be staying after all. I spoke to a Celtic fan on Saturday night asked him “Why the low ball bids?” His reply was “Bench warmer!” SJM I hope you are reading this! Much better playing every week at ER than sitting on a smellie bench being a bit part player. Tell them to BOLT!
So he might be staying because a Celtc fan told you he wouldn't get a game for them?
Good to know.

[Bostonhibby]

So he might be staying because a Celtc can told you he wouldn't get a game for them?
Good to know.

A celtc fan once told me they are the best fans in the world. Even though they can't even spell the name of the team that copied Hibs:wink:

[BILLYHIBS]

So he might be staying because a Celtc can told you he wouldn't get a game for them?
Good to know.
Celtic can? No! Reality is Celtic don’t really need him just now and looking at their squad there is no way SJM would be a stick on to start anytime soon! Celtics strategy in Scotland as you no doubt know is to weaken all the opposition by signing their best players. Celtic would be quite happy to sign SJM on a precontract and wait until next season just as long as they do not face any immediate competition for his signature in the current window. The point I was trying to empathise is the arrogance shown by Celtic and their cans sorry fans to in their eyes smaller clubs! :wink:

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Agent Scotland (I know) saying we would reluctantly accept 2.4m for McGinn with Hayes on Loan and Scott Allan.

[SirDavidsNapper]

Agent Scotland (I know) saying we would reluctantly accept 2.4m for McGinn with Hayes on Loan and Scott Allan.

I'd be somewhat happy with that

[calumhibee1]

Agent Scotland (I know) saying we would reluctantly accept 2.4m for McGinn with Hayes on Loan and Scott Allan.

I’d take that and I wouldn’t even be reluctant about it. Would be a good deal for us IMO.

[sean04]

Agent Scotland (I know) saying we would reluctantly accept 2.4m for McGinn with Hayes on Loan and Scott Allan.

When did hayes last play? If he Was to regain his Aberdeen form then brilliant but has he lost a bit after a year of injuries

[BH Hibs]

Please not Hayes.

[CapitalGreen]

Agent Scotland (I know) saying we would reluctantly accept 2.4m for McGinn with Hayes on Loan and Scott Allan.

AgentScotlands twitter is even less reliable than yours 😂

[monarch]

Would rather we kept him for one more season and let him go for nothing at the end of it than accept a £2m offer from Celtic.

Accepting a low bid just sets a precedent for these vultures going forward.

Unfortunately Hibs business plan is to buy cheap/develop players and sell for profit. If, arguably, our two best players from last season ( McGeouch already and McGinn in the near future) leave for nothing it will leave a sizeable hole in our future budget.

[CapitalGreen]

Unfortunately Hibs business plan is to buy cheap/develop players and sell for profit. If, arguably, our two best players from last season ( McGeouch already and McGinn in the near future) leave for nothing it will leave a sizeable hole in our future budget.

Hibs budget does not rely on selling players for £2m.

[Unseen work]

Can’t beleive some people don’t want Hayes, if he is still the same player as the one at Aberdeen we would be getting one of the best players in Scotland and a more effective winger than Barker.

No chance McGinn will sign a new contract, Celtic would be raging that he done so just so that they need to pay more for him

[CapitalGreen]

Can’t beleive some people don’t want Hayes, if he is still the same player as the one at Aberdeen we would be getting one of the best players in Scotland and a more effective winger than Barker.

No chance McGinn will sign a new contract, Celtic would be raging that he done so just so that they need to pay more for him

31 year old, returning after 8 months out with a broken leg and only having made 6 starts in the last 14 months. Plus we are supposedly going to announce the signing of another left winger imminently.

[wookie70]

I’d take that and I wouldn’t even be reluctant about it. Would be a good deal for us IMO.

I agree. The Scott Allen deal worked out well for us with Celtic and I think a similar deal with SJM would be a good idea for us, Celtc and the players who can't get a game at Parkhead but are good enough for second place like Hayes and Christie.

[Col2]

Scott Allan and Hayes would be fantastic IF we got c£2.4m. This would mean c£1.7m net cash which would give us opportunity to replace McGinn and Maclaren and maybe another defender in.

Can’t see it to be honest. Still think deal is pure cash with add one etc.

[BILLYHIBS]

2.4 m for SJM plus Scott Allan for keeps Sparky 12 mth loan done deal! :wink:

[BIGK]

Here we go:rolleyes:

[snooky]

Scott Allan and Hayes would be fantastic IF we got c£2.4m. This would mean c£1.7m net cash which would give us opportunity to replace McGinn and Maclaren and maybe another defender in.

Can’t see it to be honest. Still think deal is pure cash with add one etc.

Hayes Days' Gone.
Next :coffee:

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Mginn demanding transfer according to EEN article on newsnow site

[The Sundance Kid]

Mginn demanding transfer according to EEN article on newsnow site

Can't see that anywhere, do you have a link to the article?

[Hamish]

Mginn demanding transfer according to EEN article on newsnow site

Is that not another of their targets?

Craig Dawson at WBA?

[SaulGoodman]

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IiF6VtN3abE/WV15jCfNYgI/AAAAAAAAUQw/ALLhYiNIy_82PA9SrsV3ACGO4Ax4F-cMgCLcBGAs/s1600/stephpopcorn.gif

[flash]

Mginn demanding transfer according to EEN article on newsnow site

At least you are consistent.

[makaveli1875]

Mginn demanding transfer according to EEN article on newsnow site

Its not Mcginn ,some other guy theyre after has handed in a transfer request

[Hibbyradge]

Can't see that anywhere, do you have a link to the article?

It's not true.

It's Craig Dawson.

[jonny]

Mginn demanding transfer according to EEN article on newsnow site

You need to read the full article mate. It's Celtic target Craig Dawson that's put in a transfer request at West Bromwich. Nothing to do with SJM.
Nothing to see here.

[yerauldda]

There's not a hope in hell the John McGinn we saw going daft at the end of last week's game is about to demand a transfer away from Hibs.

[SaulGoodman]

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[makaveli1875]

Its clickbait .

Celtic target demands transfer

Reported Celtic target Craig Dawson is understood to have handed in a transfer request. Rumours surround the West Brom defender’s future, with reports down south suggesting the 28-year-old hasn’t been at training for weeks.
More in today's

[Springbank]

Mginn demanding transfer according to EEN article on newsnow site

Not a chance, in the build-up to a huge game in Greece.

Time for us all to just enjoy having cup-winning jambo-busting legend John McGinn in a Hibs jersey this Thursday, and see if we can progress in Europe.

[Clarence]

Mginn demanding transfer according to EEN article on newsnow site

Reported Celtic target Craig Dawson is understood to have handed in a transfer request. Rumours surround the West Brom defender’s future, with reports down south suggesting the 28-year-old hasn’t been at training for weeks.

[BegbieHSC]

If there’s anything in the £2.4m plus Allan, and Hayes on loan, at this stage I’d bite your hand off for it.

[flash]

You need to read the full article mate. It's Celtic target Craig Dawson that's put in a transfer request at West Bromwich. Nothing to do with SJM.
Nothing to see here.

He knows.

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Sorry guys my mistake

[monarch]

Hibs budget does not rely on selling players for £2m.

Not for day to day running of the club but it does where we produce a regular internationalist and we have to replace him.

[Greenworld]

Scott Allan and Hayes would be fantastic IF we got c£2.4m. This would mean c£1.7m net cash which would give us opportunity to replace McGinn and Maclaren and maybe another defender in.

Can’t see it to be honest. Still think deal is pure cash with add one etc.It's still getting him on the cheap in my opinion but if his agent is blocking a move down south where there are teams willing to pay our valuation what option do we have.
John could by one phone call saying he was happy to move elsewhere get hibs and St mirren for that matter ,proper funds,to make a real difference.
If it is where John wants to go then I'm sorry other than money I don't see it has a big progressive move to test him. It is in fact the easy option !

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[southern hibby]

Not sure why but still think Hibs will get SA and one othe ( possibly Christie), and also at least 2.5-2.75 mill.

Celtic ( irrespective of what bids or statements they make ) want to
Sign him, he wants to go ( I’ve already stated why I think this to be true ) and Hibs will want to sell but only if NL is happy with the deal.

GGTTH

[Golden Bear]

Hayes Days' Gone.
Next :coffee:


Behave!

:tsk tsk:

[jacomo]

Agent Scotland (I know) saying we would reluctantly accept 2.4m for McGinn with Hayes on Loan and Scott Allan.


I think I would reluctantly accept that too. :greengrin

[WeeRussell]

I think I would reluctantly accept that too. :greengrin

Me too too

[silverhibee]

It's still getting him on the cheap in my opinion but if his agent is blocking a move down south where there are teams willing to pay our valuation what option do we have.
John could by one phone call saying he was happy to move elsewhere get hibs and St mirren for that matter ,proper funds,to make a real difference.
If it is where John wants to go then I'm sorry other than money I don't see it has a big progressive move to test him. It is in fact the easy option !

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How would his agent be blocking a move down south ? If a English club want to bid for him then I pretty much doubt what the agent says will stop them from doing so.

[danhibees1875]

Me too too

Me too three.

[Greenworld]

How would his agent be blocking a move down south ? If a English club want to bid for him then I pretty much doubt what the agent says will stop them from doing so.That's the word apparently it would explain no bids

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[HoboHarry]

How would his agent be blocking a move down south ? If a English club want to bid for him then I pretty much doubt what the agent says will stop them from doing so.
The agent can't stop John McGinn going south if he wants to - it would likely be in the agents own best interest as an English team would likely bid higher than the parsimonious half wits from Glasgow. However - if John McGinn has made it clear to his agent that he wants to go to Celtic then the agent would be obliged to say exactly that to any inquiring English clubs would he not? That's not blocking a move, simply advising that based on the players wishes, they are wasting their time trying......

[Nutmegged]

It's still getting him on the cheap in my opinion but if his agent is blocking a move down south where there are teams willing to pay our valuation what option do we have.
John could by one phone call saying he was happy to move elsewhere get hibs and St mirren for that matter ,proper funds,to make a real difference.
If it is where John wants to go then I'm sorry other than money I don't see it has a big progressive move to test him. It is in fact the easy option !

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He's no different to the rest of us mate, if we had an opportunity to sign for Hibs, particularly with the way the club is at present then we'd jump at the chance, a Celtic supporter will feel the way about Celtic and so on and so on.

He could sign a 4yr contract with them, do three years, possibly be there for 10 in a row and get a big move to the EPL (should he fancy it) before his 27th birthday

[ancient hibee]

The agent can't stop John McGinn going south if he wants to - it would likely be in the agents own best interest as an English team would likely bid higher than the parsimonious half wits from Glasgow. However - if John McGinn has made it clear to his agent that he wants to go to Celtic then the agent would be obliged to say exactly that to any inquiring English clubs would he not? That's not blocking a move, simply advising that based on the players wishes, they are wasting their time trying......
So if Spurs were,interested McGinn would instruct his agent to tell them he was only going to Celtic so they were wasting his time.It’s all a charade isn’t it.He’d be off south in a shot if a big club came along.

[HoboHarry]

So if Spurs were,interested McGinn would instruct his agent to tell them he was only going to Celtic so they were wasting his time.It’s all a charade isn’t it.He’d be off south in a shot if a big club came along.
Obviously he would go to Spurs or any other big club but up to now there has been no interest reported other than from lower league clubs, at least not that I have seen. An instruction to an agent can change in an instant and given that the clubs are lower league to this point, Celtic and Champions League are a more attractive proposition than that.

[ancient hibee]

Obviously he would go to Spurs or any other big club but up to now there has been no interest reported other than from lower league clubs, at least not that I have seen. An instruction to an agent can change in an instant and given that the clubs are lower league to this point, Celtic and Champions League are a more attractive proposition than that.
I understand all that.The point is that he only prefers Celtic if nobody bigger comes along-not that it is only Celtic he’ll go to.

[HoboHarry]

I understand all that.The point is that he only prefers Celtic if nobody bigger comes along-not that it is only Celtic he’ll go to.
Of course, not arguing with that. We seem to be putting separate arguments forward to make the same point. No big clubs have come forward though (that we are aware of) and honestly I don't expect any to do so, they would have done it already if they wanted him badly enough.

[DetroitHibs]

Guessing McGinn has probably said he doesn't want to move to the championship. Let's be honest, Celtic are bigger than most championship teams and the champions league is a lot more appealing that a wet Tuesday in Hull. An EPL team would give him some food for thought though.

[jonny]

Guessing McGinn has probably said he doesn't want to move to the championship. Let's be honest, Celtic are bigger than most championship teams and the champions league is a lot more appealing that a wet Tuesday in Hull. An EPL team would give him some food for thought though.

I'm sure it was rumoured a while back that Brighton and Bournemouth were keeping tabs on the situation.
Wouldn't surprise me if a team of that ilk makes an offer at the last minute if another deal they're pursuing falls through.

[silverhibee]

That's the word apparently it would explain no bids

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Or it could mean that no clubs are interested in him at present, hence no bids from down south so far.

[Smartie]

Or it could mean that no clubs are interested in him at present, hence no bids from down south so far.

I find it hard to believe that no clubs are interested in a Scotland Internationalist who captained the U21s, has several medals playing for less-fashionable Scottish teams, performs to a very high standard every week (including a strong performance in European competition just this week) who has a year left on his contract and therefore would be available at less than the normal price.

Just because nobody has made a bid - yet - doesn't mean there is no interest.

It's been a slow transfer window so far. I suspect it might soon go mental.

[huggie1875]

All it takes is one transfer to start the dominos falling

[silverhibee]

The agent can't stop John McGinn going south if he wants to - it would likely be in the agents own best interest as an English team would likely bid higher than the parsimonious half wits from Glasgow. However - if John McGinn has made it clear to his agent that he wants to go to Celtic then the agent would be obliged to say exactly that to any inquiring English clubs would he not? That's not blocking a move, simply advising that based on the players wishes, they are wasting their time trying......

I would expect any English club showing a interest in McGinn would get in touch with the club before his agent if any are really interested in him, can't see it going down to well with Leeann that a agent would be blocking clubs from making bids, if a club are interested him from down south they will make it to the club and they will inform John if they have excepted the bid and allow him to talk to said club, yes McGinn can knock it back, but if a English club bid £4m for him the club will accept that bid and no agent will be able to block it, silly him putting all his eggs in one basket as this present time..

[Dashing Bob S]

I find it hard to believe that no clubs are interested in a Scotland Internationalist who captained the U21s, has several medals playing for less-fashionable Scottish teams, performs to a very high standard every week (including a strong performance in European competition just this week) who has a year left on his contract and therefore would be available at less than the normal price.

Just because nobody has made a bid - yet - doesn't mean there is no interest.

It's been a slow transfer window so far. I suspect it might soon go mental.

I agree. It's not got going yet. His should be in no hurry to deal with Celtic. I also believe that a big offer with come in from England.

[Smartie]

I agree. It's not got going yet. His should be in no hurry to deal with Celtic. I also believe that a big offer with come in from England.

The player is in a very strong position.

He's happy enough to join Celtic. He's happy playing for the club he's currently at (as you could see last week) so is not in a desperate rush to move, although I understand he probably wants to move on sooner rather than later.

It might be worth his while biding his time to see what interest comes from down South - and there is a big incentive for him to perform to a high standard every week at the moment in order to drum up further interest in his services. The fact that he can showcase his talents in European competition when everyone else is playing in friendlies can only help his cause. Not that he's ever done anything else for us, but I suspect we'll see him continue to play out his skin over the next few games ( especially if we get through in Europe).

Someone from England will stick in a decent sized bid over the next few weeks, and that is when it will get interesting.

[hibbydog]

This can’t be easy for young McGinn. He’s so agonisingly close to a life changing move that will make him financially secure for life. Whilst he continues to play for us he’s also one bad tackle away from being ruined.

The fact he’s quietly knuckling down to it and giving us his full commitment speaks volumes for the lad’s character.

There was a part of the cup final (Gordon strachan pointed this out in the post match analysis) where we were 2-1 down - he steamed through two or three Rangers players and it really lifted everyone’s spirits. A real leader.

Scottish Cup, promotion winning legend.

when we lose him, he’ll go with our best wishes.

[ancient hibee]

Of course, not arguing with that. We seem to be putting separate arguments forward to make the same point. No big clubs have come forward though (that we are aware of) and honestly I don't expect any to do so, they would have done it already if they wanted him badly enough.


Yes.I'm afraid it's the old story where they want OF players and don't realise that they should be looking at players who are regular stand outs against the OF.

[Hibs07p]

IMO this is already a done deal, and probably has been for a long time, all we are now doing is playing out the end game. Both clubs apparently playing hard ball to appease their own fans and a compromise will be made where the “best deal” is agreed. The other scenario is that SJM bides his time and signs a pre contract in January.
Again, IMO Celtic are operating from a strong position knowing that their ultimate replacement for Scott Brown wants to sign for them can wait until contract runs down. Don’t know what the final deal will be, but I think SJM is Parkhead bound.
Disclaimer. No inside info but 50 years experience hoping against hope that we are about to lose another talented player to the OF. This time I hope it benefits the club, but we are in a weak position.

GGTTH
Scottish Cup Winners 2016

I posted this almost 4 weeks ago, the longer it goes on, the more I think it will be the likely outcome. A lot has been said about SJM's agent sabotaging any move south, but, what if SJM has told our club, he will only move to celtc. and that's where his heart lies. Maybe SJM is happy to see out his contract with us with the promise of a £2M signing on fee from Celtc in 12 months time, or £1M signing on fee from celtc if he signs now for £2M. If SJM wants to go to Celtc at this stage of his career, 12 months is not a long time to wait.

GGTTH
Scottish Cup Winners 2016

[Joe6-2]

Me too three.

Me three too, too too, three three, too, aww you know what I mean!

[HelmutSchlong]

Me three too, too too, three three, too, aww you know what I mean!

Jambos know that it’s true...

[Velma Dinkley]

Can you think of an English club that would let the press know they'd had a derisory offer for a Scottish player turned down?

[Velma Dinkley]

I posted this almost 4 weeks ago, the longer it goes on, the more I think it will be the likely outcome. A lot has been said about SJM's agent sabotaging any move south, but, what if SJM has told our club, he will only move to celtc. and that's where his heart lies. Maybe SJM is happy to see out his contract with us with the promise of a £2M signing on fee from Celtc in 12 months time, or £1M signing on fee from celtc if he signs now for £2M. If SJM wants to go to Celtc at this stage of his career, 12 months is not a long time to wait.

GGTTH
Scottish Cup Winners 2016

Can you think of anything that might attract a football player to a club that isn't Celtic?

[Hibs07p]

Can you think of anything that might attract a football player to a club that isn't Celtic?

Aye, money.

What's your point?

GGTTH
Scottish Cup Winners 2016

[Bostonhibby]

Can you think of an English club that would let the press know they'd had a derisory offer for a Scottish player turned down?Sevco?[emoji6]☺

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[Is It On....]

Not sure if this is the correct place to post this, but Alfie Mawson, defender from Swansea (they got relegated to the Championship ffs) is quoted at TWENTY MILLION POUNDS!! We really need ANY English club to come and bid for him to avoid Celtic getting SJM on the cheap 🙁

[Souter96Mac]

Mate at work has told me McGinn deal is sorted. £2.4 million, Allan permanent and Hayes on loan. This might explain why speculation for incoming players has increased if we know what we have to play with.

[jacomo]

Mate at work has told me McGinn deal is sorted. £2.4 million, Allan permanent and Hayes on loan. This might explain why speculation for incoming players has increased if we know what we have to play with.


Your mate at work is passing off the latest speculation on Twitter as fact.

Treat with caution.

[seanshow]

[QUOTE=Souter96Mac;5487341]Mate at work has told me McGinn deal is sorted.



Yip that was about 2 pages ago,....
doesn't mean it could be true though.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Mate at work has told me McGinn deal is sorted. £2.4 million, Allan permanent and Hayes on loan. This might explain why speculation for incoming players has increased if we know what we have to play with.

Heard this one as well from a pal, who well could have got this from social media

There's no way Celtic will deal with us with regards to Allan if they don't get McGinn - sadly that's just the way things are

But if he does go to Celtic, McGinn better get used to a lot less playing time.

[Winston Ingram]

Mate at work has told me McGinn deal is sorted. £2.4 million, Allan permanent and Hayes on loan. This might explain why speculation for incoming players has increased if we know what we have to play with.

That must be the 132nd time it's been sorted according to this thread since it since it started.

[Winston Ingram]

Not sure if this is the correct place to post this, but Alfie Mawson, defender from Swansea (they got relegated to the Championship ffs) is quoted at TWENTY MILLION POUNDS!! We really need ANY English club to come and bid for him to avoid Celtic getting SJM on the cheap 🙁

That's cheap for the Premier League. The guy was in the England Squad in March. Apparently the fee is £15m + £5m add ons

[Onion]

It's still getting him on the cheap in my opinion but if his agent is blocking a move down south where there are teams willing to pay our valuation what option do we have.
John could by one phone call saying he was happy to move elsewhere get hibs and St mirren for that matter ,proper funds,to make a real difference.
If it is where John wants to go then I'm sorry other than money I don't see it has a big progressive move to test him. It is in fact the easy option !

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Don’t get this “agent blocking” stuff. The agent cannot stop a club from bidding and Hibs accepting. That puts the onus firmly on SJM to refuse, discuss or accept the approach - which would force Celtic to reconsider their position.

[brog]

I'm watching Celtc right now, they're atrocious! Those smug, arrogant a****les who genuinely believe SJM wouldn't improve their team really do live in a fantasy world. Oh & Jack Hendry is a bombscare!

[ShadesLongThrow]

I'm watching Celtc right now, they're atrocious! Those smug, arrogant a****les who genuinely believe SJM wouldn't improve their team really do live in a fantasy world. Oh & Jack Hendry is a bombscare!

Totally agree. They’re crying out for someone with a bit of strength in the midfield to fight for the ball and keep it.

[Greenworld]

Don’t get this “agent blocking” stuff. The agent cannot stop a club from bidding and Hibs accepting. That puts the onus firmly on SJM to refuse, discuss or accept the approach - which would force Celtic to reconsider their position.Your correct but they whoever will make contact with the agent to see if there is a will so to speak .
Apparently the agent has told the other clubs John's wish is celtic.
Oh wee will no bother then !!

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[Moulin Yarns]

Who is the agent?

Agents are a terrible thing for the game imho

[brydekirk]

Even after the window closes I still would be amazed, I just don't see what's in it for him.

He's a Gentleman, fact.

[Smartie]

Who is the agent?

Agents are a terrible thing for the game imho

Is there not something fairly honourable about an agent attempting to facilitate a move to the club of the client's choosing rather than to the one that will net the agent the largest fee?

[Billy Whizz]

Is there not something fairly honourable about an agent attempting to facilitate a move to the club of the client's choosing rather than to the one that will net the agent the largest fee?

I’m sure Johns agent will be doing exactly what he wants him to do, not the other way round

[Franck Stanton]

Just my take on the whole SJM situation. Wot if a deal, as stated, 2.4m Allan permanent and Hynes on loan has been agreed but is On ice until after European game tomorrow? Would make sense and explain all the so called "agent blocking any offers" crap being spouted

[MWHIBBIES]

Not sure if this is the correct place to post this, but Alfie Mawson, defender from Swansea (they got relegated to the Championship ffs) is quoted at TWENTY MILLION POUNDS!! We really need ANY English club to come and bid for him to avoid Celtic getting SJM on the cheap �� Bargain considering his age and nationally. He will be really good.

[JeMeSouviens]

Who is the agent?

Agents are a terrible thing for the game imho

David Threlfall, apparently. He also represents Gary Mackay-Steven.

In this case, not too terrible, as SJM credits him with persuading him to sign for Hibs instead of going to Houston to play MLS.

[LancsHibs]

Two points.
An agent isn’t in a position to ‘block’ anything, their job is to advise their client and try and broker the best deal for their client. Ultimately it’s up to the clubs and the player, nobody else.
It’s in the agents best interest to go for the highest value deal as they will get paid proportionately, so a larger cash deal with probably higher wages would be more prosperous to them and their client. So in SJM’s case his agent should be trying to dissuade John from sticking with Celtc, if that is the case, and broaden his horizons.

[Smartie]

Two points.
An agent isn’t in a position to ‘block’ anything, their job is to advise their client and try and broker the best deal for their client. Ultimately it’s up to the clubs and the player, nobody else.
It’s in the agents best interest to go for the highest value deal as they will get paid proportionately, so a larger cash deal with probably higher wages would be more prosperous to them and their client. So in SJM’s case his agent should be trying to dissuade John from sticking with Celtc, if that is the case, and broaden his horizons.

I disagree.

If John's priority in life is to make as much money as possible then you are correct.

It's up to him what his priorities are. Maybe his life's ambition is to play for Celtic?

Maybe he has changed his mind, wants to stay at Hibs forever and sign a modest contract that will put minimal financial pressure on us?

Maybe he's always wanted to play in the Andorran league?

The agent should represent the player's wishes. I don't want to see McGinn go to Celtic, but if that's where he wants to go then the agent's job is to do all he can to make that happen.

[Greenworld]

I disagree.

If John's priority in life is to make as much money as possible then you are correct.

It's up to him what his priorities are. Maybe his life's ambition is to play for Celtic?

Maybe he has changed his mind, wants to stay at Hibs forever and sign a modest contract that will put minimal financial pressure on us?

Maybe he's always wanted to play in the Andorran league?

The agent should represent the player's wishes. I don't want to see McGinn go to Celtic, but if that's where he wants to go then the agent's job is to do all he can to make that happen.

A good summary

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[Ryan69]

Bargain considering his age and nationally. He will be really good.

You are having a laugh right???

You can sign Higuain for £32 million.

[scotiaf]

I don’t think anyone on this board wants him to go to Celtic, but he’s done week for us and always given 100%. You seen how much the comeback last week meant to him when the goal went in. If he wants to go to Celtic and they pay the right amount for Hibs, then well
I’ll wish him Good luck.

[Joe6-2]

Is there not something fairly honourable about an agent attempting to facilitate a move to the club of the client's choosing rather than to the one that will net the agent the largest fee?

Agents are poison, most out for themselves.
The use of them is one the worst things to happen in football

[Michael]

We're getting the Man City winger so we don't need Hayes.

[Rumble de Thump]

John does not have his heart set on a move to Celtic and has not instructed his agent to block any offers. If any clubs make Hibs a suitable offer then he will assess his options at that point. Until then, his is helping us conquer Europe.

[Greenworld]

John does not have his heart set on a move to Celtic and has not instructed his agent to block any offers. If any clubs make Hibs a suitable offer then he will assess his options at that point. Until then, his is helping us conquer Europe.In that case no one rates him apart from celtic ( only bid) and Hibs fans !

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[Rumble de Thump]

In that case no one rates him apart from celtic ( only bid) and Hibs fans !

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Obviously, that's not true. And we have no idea exactly who has bid what.

[snooky]

Agents are poison, most out for themselves.
The use of them is one the worst things to happen in football

Just another example of a middle-man who has created a self-serving niche for himself based on the ethics and modus operandi of a bloodsucker.

[J-C]

In that case no one rates him apart from celtic ( only bid) and Hibs fans !

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Lennon implied in his interview last week that Celtic were not the only club making an offer on John, I think the weegie press tell everyone that Celtic have made an offer and it's been rejected, maybe other offers have been undisclosed as of now so we don't know who or what.

[Greenworld]

Lennon implied in his interview last week that Celtic were not the only club making an offer on John, I think the weegie press tell everyone that Celtic have made an offer and it's been rejected, maybe other offers have been undisclosed as of now so we don't know who or what.Very possible and I hope a very good club valuation offer is made and accepted soon .

But for now I just want John mcginn and all the Hibs team to play the game of there lives and get hibs through tonight.

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[Jack Hackett]

Lennon implied in his interview last week that Celtic were not the only club making an offer on John, I think the weegie press tell everyone that Celtic have made an offer and it's been rejected, maybe other offers have been undisclosed as of now so we don't know who or what.

Tend to think like you. Hibs like to keep their dealings to themselves... Some clubs however, like to do their business through the press, especially when things aren't going their way

[WhileTheChief..]

Who is the agent?

Agents are a terrible thing for the game imho

How else does a 21 yo laddie make sure he gets the best deal possible?

They can’t be expected to negotiate their future going up against experienced business professionals when there’s millions at stake.

Of course they need to have agents.

[Caversham Green]

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/journalist-offers-transfer-update-that-will-interest-reading-fc-fans/

Could it be......?

[Big_Franck]

How else does a 21 yo laddie make sure he gets the best deal possible?

They can’t be expected to negotiate their future going up against experienced business professionals when there’s millions at stake.

Of course they need to have agents.

McGinn is 24 in October. No really a laddie any more.

[CropleyWasGod]

How else does a 21 yo laddie make sure he gets the best deal possible?

They can’t be expected to negotiate their future going up against experienced business professionals when there’s millions at stake.

Of course they need to have agents.

The "good old days", before agents had so much power, had the likes of Dundee United signing up their best players for sweeties on long-term contracts.

[Betty Boop]

Do Everton not have any ITK fans like ? Or is it only on here ? :confused:

[Gmack7]

Do Everton not have any ITK fans like ? Or is it only on here ? :confused:

Bleed Green is an Evertonian i tell ye.

[Betty Boop]

Bleed Green is an Evertonian i tell ye.

You would think there would be some reference to McGinn on one of their forums surely. All I could see mentioned was Tierney of Celtic.

[Stevie Reid]

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/journalist-offers-transfer-update-that-will-interest-reading-fc-fans/

Could it be......?

Didn't realise how prolific Marc McNulty had been for Coventry - or that he had signed for Reading!

[Delboy4]

Who is the agent?

Agents are a terrible thing for the game imho

Cheers for that..!

I deal with my players just as they were my own two boys. Ok there maybe some agents at the very top level who are making millions who are thinking of themselves as they
get greedy but they are far and few between. Put it this way, Hibs will not be dealing with them.

I try and do the best for the players as it's their living and it doesn't last long. Players at a certain level need to be looked after EG Making sure they Invest their money in the correct way, they don't get into
trouble outside football etc etc...It's like bringing up your child giving them the best advice you possibly can, it's up to them if they take it or not.

It's like any occupation, there are bad guys and there are good guys!

[Caversham Green]

Didn't realise how prolific Marc McNulty had been for Coventry - or that he had signed for Reading!

I hadn't realised he'd been a Hibs youngster.

Once McGinn signs for Reading I'll start giving updates on their progress.

(:hyper)

[Stevie Reid]

I hadn't realised he'd been a Hibs youngster.

Once McGinn signs for Reading I'll start giving updates on their progress.

(:hyper)

I had known he was here. Would have been a realistic target for some Scottish clubs last season, I'd have thought.

Haha, cheers :greengrin

[WhileTheChief..]

McGinn is 24 in October. No really a laddie any more.

I’m taking about players in general, not McGinn.

Can you really imagine the like of Cummings representing himself??!!!

[snooky]

How else does a 21 yo laddie make sure he gets the best deal possible?

They can’t be expected to negotiate their future going up against experienced business professionals when there’s millions at stake.

Of course they need to have agents.

:agree: We could do with some more Willie McKays in the game. :cb

[WhileTheChief..]

Jim McArthur’s another decent agent.

There’s plenty out there doing exactly what they should be doing for their clients. They don’t represent clubs!

Of course it’s easy to say they’re all crap etc just like we do with journalists, chairmen, officials and anyone else involved in the game that isn’t a Hibs player!

[SquashedFrogg]

McGinn is 24 in October. No really a laddie any more.

So that makes him a 23 year old faced with signing a contract that will make him a millionaire and potentially map out a huge part of his career. Still a huge decison for someone that age don't you think?

[tamig]

Jim McArthur’s another decent agent.

There’s plenty out there doing exactly what they should be doing for their clients. They don’t represent clubs!

Of course it’s easy to say they’re all crap etc just like we do with journalists, chairmen, officials and anyone else involved in the game that isn’t a Hibs player!

Jim McArthur got Deek his big move. His career went into reverse right after that. I guess that’s another debate though.

[JeMeSouviens]

Jim McArthur’s another decent agent.

There’s plenty out there doing exactly what they should be doing for their clients. They don’t represent clubs!

Of course it’s easy to say they’re all crap etc just like we do with journalists, chairmen, officials and anyone else involved in the game that isn’t a Hibs player!

They often do. It's not even unusual for them to represent both in the same deal! The English premier league are looking at banning this:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/06/04/premier-league-vote-banning-agent-dual-representation-effort/

Interesting take from the player's point of view (I think it's generally accepted that TSF is Dave Kitson):

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/feb/12/the-secret-footballer-agents

[WhileTheChief..]

Jim McArthur got Deek his big move. His career went into reverse right after that. I guess that’s another debate though.

Yeah but he did what Deek wanted.

Deek ruined his own career, not his agent.