Match of the Day World Cup

[easty]

Not a chance, if you feel hard done by and your best player gets booted off the ball all the time then of course you are going to complain

It was a foul.

[Mon Dieu4]

It was a foul.

Not saying it wasn't, was justifying their complaints

[Scouse Hibee]

Yaaaas game on

[SteveHFC]

:thumbsup:

[Sir David Gray]

10 minutes to go, 2-1.

[Hibernia Na Eir]

This nearside linesman ain't gonna give Colombia anything.

[down-the-slope]

Brasil are just hoofing it anywhere.....makes me feel all warm and fuzzy....i am used to this :greengrin

[--------]

This game's a disgrace. Brazil have bought this Cup. :bitchy:

That was a red card. Cesar shouldn't be on the field.

[--------]

Am I the only one that thinks the keeper could have maybe done better with that?


Am I the only one who thinks the keeper should have been red-carded?

[Scouse Hibee]

This game's a disgrace. Brazil have bought this Cup. :bitchy:

That was a red card. Cesar shouldn't be on the field.

I thought yellow was correct.

[down-the-slope]

pitch is a mess when you see it close up...no wonder so many long range camera shots

[Pretty Boy]

Am I the only one that thinks the keeper could have maybe done better with that?

Nope.

He's got 30+ yards to see it, it wasn't right in the corner, it was a decent height and he got a hand to it.

[Onceinawhile]

Just to confirm.

The ref who awarded Colombia a penalty, and booked a brazilian player (the captain) first(putting him out the semi final) is biased?

[Onceinawhile]

Neymar gets a knee to the back. No booking.

#corruptfifa

[easty]

Just to confirm.

The ref who awarded Colombia a penalty, and booked a brazilian player (the captain) first(putting him out the semi final) is biased?

Yeah, and Brazil are buying this World Cup too. Apparently.

[easty]

Fred is a lump. That was so crap.

[Scouse Hibee]

Just to confirm.

The ref who awarded Colombia a penalty, and booked a brazilian player (the captain) first(putting him out the semi final) is biased?


:tee hee:

[Jim44]

Worst refereeing of the competition so far.

[Scottie]

Yeah, and Brazil are buying this World Cup too. Apparently.
:agree:

[Pretty Boy]

Fred is a lump. That was so crap.

I've defended Fred, and his goalscoring record is impressive, but it must be time to give Hulk a run through the middle surely.

[HibeesLA]

Worst refereeing of the competition so far.

Agree completely with that.

[Mon Dieu4]

Just to confirm.

The ref who awarded Colombia a penalty, and booked a brazilian player (the captain) first(putting him out the semi final) is biased?

Wouldn't say baised, more baffling, he has allowed the best player on the park to consistently get booted clean off the ball with no yellows to protect him, then books him for pulling out of a tackle

[Hibernia Na Eir]

God knows how Brazil are through to semi.

[SteveHFC]

*******s

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Referee lets a game go the way this guy has, it's always going to benefit the home side. And players are always going to get hurt.

The game's a disgrace. Like bread and circuses.

[easty]

Yes

[easty]

Chile are one of the best sides at the World Cup. Brazil beat them. Brazil still aren't that good though apparently.

Columbia, they're one if the best sides at the World Cup, Brazil beat them. Tomorrow it'll be the same, Brazil still aren't that good, chat.

I fancied them from the start, but it's listening to all the Brazil bashing though, that's what really makes me want them to win.

[SteveHFC]

No more Colombian birds.. :boo hoo::boo hoo:

[Albanian Hibs]

Yaaas. Bring on the Germans.

[Scottie]

Really hope so.

I've no real idea why I dislike Brazil so much, I've just never liked them.

The fact Pele always seems lile a tedious old bore probably has something to do with it.

Im with you PB

The bollocks spouted about the beautiful game they play is a myth. Tonight it was like watching a TB team.

Hope the ERICS give them a real spanking In the semis :agree:

[pontius pilate]

Not liking brazil or the refereeing in this world cup some really baffling and disgraceful decisions going on started in the first game v Croatia and has continued since. Could there be a FIFA conspiracy to ensure Brazil are in the final possibly and it wouldnt suprise me to see Argentina there as well. All Sth American final at the maracana

[One Day Soon]

Dearie me, the refereeing breaks Brazil have had to get this far are Rolex-tastic.

[NOLA]

not impressed by brasil at all, fancy germany to beat them

[cad]

Not liking brazil or the refereeing in this world cup some really baffling and disgraceful decisions going on started in the first game v Croatia and has continued since. Could there be a FIFA conspiracy to ensure Brazil are in the final possibly and it wouldnt suprise me to see Argentina there as well. All Sth American final at the maracana


Agree 100% mate said it from the very start the country would go into meltdown if Brazil went out early doors just not going to happen,
refs have been telt IMHO, apart from that its been the best world cup I can remember only other F U is the TV coverage its rank rotten .

[pontius pilate]

I agree about the tv coverage especially from itv. The football on offer has been in the majority excellent a joy to watch there has been games I didnt want to end particularly the usa game the other night there. Looking forward to the two games tomorrow id quite like to see belguim and costa rica to acore first and open up both games. Saying that ive not been that successful in the prediction league though haha

[Baader]

Brazil done well tonight but the ref was weak and it was to their advantage.

[Cropley10]

Chile are one of the best sides at the World Cup. Brazil beat them. Brazil still aren't that good though apparently.

Columbia, they're one if the best sides at the World Cup, Brazil beat them. Tomorrow it'll be the same, Brazil still aren't that good, chat.

I fancied them from the start, but it's listening to all the Brazil bashing though, that's what really makes me want them to win.

Must help when perfectly good goals get chalked off. Brazil are average. But FIFA want them to win the WC and so far that's on track.

[Haymaker]

Neymar might be out. Split disc apparently.

[Haymaker]

Confirmed. Neymar is out. Broken vertebrae.

[EdinMike]

Confirmed. Neymar is out. Broken vertebrae.

I think I went to the toilet or something when this happened. Was it a bad challenge or an awkward landing ?!

[Haymaker]

I think I went to the toilet or something when this happened. Was it a bad challenge or an awkward landing ?!

Went up and got a knee to the side. Looked on camera a bit weak but obviously wasnt.

[SteveHFC]

Confirmed. Neymar is out. Broken vertebrae.

:(

Hope he's back playing soon :aok:

[Pete]

Went up and got a knee to the side. Looked on camera a bit weak but obviously wasnt.

It was pretty much a knee that landed directly on the spine from what I saw. Nothing malicious and just unlucky. I feel a bit guilty now as I was screaming at him for time wasting at the time.

I can see Germany toying with them if both Neymar and Silva are missing. Their progress is reminding me of Koreas twelve years ago.

[Just_Jimmy]

54 fouls. How luiz, marcelo, ferdandinho all avoid bookings baffels. Rodriguez was kicked all over the park and the ref shamefully allowed it. He was then booked for his first foul.

Why wasn't the brazil keeper sent off at the penalty? Any other time thats a red and a penalty.

Colombia's goal was tight. It may have been offside but no way that linesman can tell in real time. Stick the flag up and hope the home team are ok.

Brazil mugged Croatia in game 1. They mugged Colombia tonight. If you want them to Host and Win the World Cup fair enough, but just give them it, don't worry about playing the tournament.

[ballengeich]

It was pretty much a knee that landed directly on the spine from what I saw. Nothing malicious and just unlucky.

Utter nonsense. The Columbian player leapt into the air for a ball he had no chance of winning and deliberately kneeded Neymar in the back. The intention was to injure Neymar and it was successful.

[easty]

Neymar gets booted around the park, again, and sent to hospital with a ****ed back, and the boy who did it didn't even get booked. But the refs are out there to make sure Brazil win.

The free kick for Brazils second goal, clearly a foul, but it was for Brazil so let's say it's a dodgy ref decision.

It was a penalty, and rightly a yellow card, not a red, because David Luiz was clearly covering.

The Columbia offside goal, which was offside, but the linesman shouldn't have been able to see it was offside, the cheat.

And finally, so big bad FIFA, have went from a corrupt money focused organisation, to fixing the World Cup so that there aren't riots in Brazil. How humanitarian of them. I wonder who else are involved? UNICEF? Probably The Matrix too. Damn computers.

[The Green Goblin]

54 fouls. How luiz, marcelo, ferdandinho all avoid bookings baffels. Rodriguez was kicked all over the park and the ref shamefully allowed it. He was then booked for his first foul.

Why wasn't the brazil keeper sent off at the penalty? Any other time thats a red and a penalty.

Colombia's goal was tight. It may have been offside but no way that linesman can tell in real time. Stick the flag up and hope the home team are ok.

Brazil mugged Croatia in game 1. They mugged Colombia tonight. If you want them to Host and Win the World Cup fair enough, but just give them it, don't worry about playing the tournament.

You are right about the ref, but that last bit is just silly. The fact is that both teams were at it last night, falling around and committing nasty fouls all over the place. Rodriguez was targeted, mostly by Fernandinho, who got away with foul after foul, but how was that any different from all the players on both sides who were doing it? You're suggesting the ref was biased in Brasil's favour, but he was just weak (might have sent off Cesar but the player had already taken his shot) and got a load of stuff wrong to the disadvantage of both teams. If he's biased then he's not going to give a penalty and he's going to send off Zuniga, a player who dived his way embarrassingly through the game and broke vertebrae in Neymar's back when he put his knee through him (not even a yellow). He was clearly out of his depth and made a right pig's ear of it, but unless I was watching a different game, Brasil scored two legitimate goals without the referee's help. Rodriguez' booking was a nonsense, but so were a load of his other decisions, including his inexplicable decision to let so many bookable challenges go on both sides and overall, it was just a piss poor inept refereeing performance.

[easty]

With Neymar out I'm not so sure about Brazil winning. Oscar will have to step up and do more than he has been so far, and Fred will definitely have to do more (do at least something).

Thiago Silva will clearly be missed but Dante is a very good defender, a Bayern Munich defender, so if anyone in the Brazilian team should know how the Germans will play it should be him.

[The Green Goblin]

Utter nonsense. The Columbian player leapt into the air for a ball he had no chance of winning and deliberately kneeded Neymar in the back. The intention was to injure Neymar and it was successful.

Agree 100%. Deliberate imo.

[The Green Goblin]

Neymar gets booted around the park, again, and sent to hospital with a ****ed back, and the boy who did it didn't even get booked. But the refs are out there to make sure Brazil win.

The free kick for Brazils second goal, clearly a foul, but it was for Brazil so let's say it's a dodgy reg decision.

It was a penalty, and rightly a yellow card, not a red, because David Luiz was clearly covering.

The Columbia offside goal, which was offside, but the linesman shouldn't have been able to see it was offside, the cheat.

And finally, so big bad FIFA, have went from a corrupt money focused organisation, to fixing the World Cup so that there aren't riots in Brazil. How humanitarian of them. I wonder who else are involved? UNICEF? Probably The Matrix too. Damn computers.

Exactly. Well put.

[Hibs Class]

Utter nonsense. The Columbian player leapt into the air for a ball he had no chance of winning and deliberately kneeded Neymar in the back. The intention was to injure Neymar and it was successful.

:agree: Exactly how I saw it.

[pontius pilate]

A bit like brazils intention was to kick the living shiete out of james rodriguez no? Take out their playmaker you take away the threat thats how both teams went about it but brazil more so IMO.

[Borderhibbie76]

Both Brazil and Columbia were at it last night...the British media seem to have an anti Brazil agenda for some reason?? Maybe taking out their England frustration s on the host nation who knows?? But imo Columbia were every bit as guilty and the World Cup will be poorer without Neymar.
As an aside is Fred related to James Collins by any chance? :)

[ScottB]

I think their big problem now is, do Brazil believe they can win without Neymar?

Not sure they do...

[jdships]

I think their big problem now is, do Brazil believe they can win without Neymar?

Not sure they do...

Just beat me to it - was just going to post same comment
"Great minds think alike " :greengrin

" Not sure they do" is it for me : they look on him as a " talisman" and most set pieces happen around him
Having said that David Luiz did alright didn't he ? :thumbsup:

The "wunder Kid" was almost anonymous last night which was disappointing

[Gatecrasher]

NOPE!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BruzuWcCMAAQKn6.png

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Not liking brazil or the refereeing in this world cup some really baffling and disgraceful decisions going on started in the first game v Croatia and has continued since. Could there be a FIFA conspiracy to ensure Brazil are in the final possibly and it wouldnt suprise me to see Argentina there as well. All Sth American final at the maracana


Careful, PP. The idea that the authorities could be colluding and conspiring to make sure the host nation stay in the competition all the way through?

How could you suggest such a thing?

Reference 1966, 1974, 1978 19... :devil:

[(((Fergus)))]

So Suarez got a four-month/nine-game ban for biting a guy's back (but crucially not breaking the skin and transferring lethal bacteria).

What retrospective punishment will Zuniga receive for breaking a guy's back??

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So Suarez got a four-month/nine-game ban for biting a guy's shoulder (but crucially not breaking the skin and transferring lethal bacteria).

What retrospective punishment will Zuniga receive for breaking a guy's back??


But he assures us he didn't mean to do it. :rolleyes:

Referee lost control of the game early on, and things just escalated from there.

This is what happens when a referee's instructed to 'let the game flow' - he doesn't clamp down on the early fouls in a big game like that one, he'll never be able to keep things under control.

[ekhibee]

Germany 9/4 fav for outright winners now.

[Onceinawhile]

I've got argentina to win the wc, but come on Belgium!!!

[Keith_M]

I've got argentina to win the wc, but come on Belgium!!!


Sorry mate, I've just given them the kiss of death by having their badge as my avatar.


I've already previously picked as my team for the World Cup: Nigeria, Algeria and France

[Mon Dieu4]

want the Argies to win because my Mum and Dad took me to Belgium as a kid and lost me haha

[SteveHFC]

want the Argies to win because my Mum and Dad took me to Belgium as a kid and lost me haha

http://static3.beanscdn.co.uk/modules/ems-v2/article/images/awkwardex14.gif.gif:greengrin

[SteveHFC]

Love Argentina's national anthem :top marks

[Mon Dieu4]

http://static3.beanscdn.co.uk/modules/ems-v2/article/images/awkwardex14.gif.gif:greengrin

It was in Bruge as well haha

[heretoday]

Belgium - proud representatives of the Premier League!

[Mon Dieu4]

yaas bout time he did something

[(((Fergus)))]

It was in Bruge as well haha

On the other hand, think of the chips, the chocolate, the beer... :top marks

[Mon Dieu4]

On the other hand, think of the chips, the chocolate, the beer... :top marks

Prefer Argentinian steaks

[Gatecrasher]

Mon the Argies

[Mon Dieu4]

That ball Di Maria played off the Belgian was sublime

[Scottie]

Mon the Argies
How the **** anyone can support the Argies is beyond me :shocked:

[hibsbollah]

Im watching this in sunny Corfu with a beer in my hand. Happy World Cup Everyone!
Viva los Argentinos.

[CropleyWasGod]

How the **** anyone can support the Argies is beyond me :shocked:

Why so?

[bigwheel]

Prefer Argentinian steaks

And their red wine

[Gatecrasher]

How the **** anyone can support the Argies is beyond me :shocked:
Put money on them before the tournament, no reason other than that.

[Scottie]

Why so?
Short memory mate ? :rolleyes:

[CropleyWasGod]

Short memory mate ? :rolleyes:

Alzheimers, maybe.

But intrigued as to why you say that. We all have our own reasons for supporting different teams.

[Scottie]

Alzheimers, maybe.

But intrigued as to why you say that. We all have our own reasons for supporting different teams.

Mine's goes back to what happened in 1982 unfortunately.

I'll leave it at that if that's ok.

[hibsbollah]

Mine's goes back to what happened in 1982 unfortunately.

I'll leave it at that if that's ok.

:hilarious I think you'd better.

Both teams looking capable of scoring. Nice open game.

[hibsbollah]

Messi waltzing round Belgium like Maradona did in '86. Thought he'd do better with that free kick mind you.

[heretoday]

Hopeless free kick by Messi.

[Mon Dieu4]

Its almost impossible to score from that close in with so many players in the way

[hibsbollah]

Hopeless free kick by Messi.

Crap first touch when alone in the box there too. Is he Argentinas weak link? :greengrin

[heretoday]

Not a bad match now Belgium have come out of their shells a bit.

They want to get Fellaini off. What a waste of space he is.

[(((Fergus)))]

Fellaini is almost as out of his depth as Clarke Carlisle.

[Mon Dieu4]

That would have been some goal

[hibsbollah]

Ohhh so unlucky Higuain. Made an idiot out of Kompany.

[hibsbollah]

Great chance wasted by Fellaini. The Belgian #5 has put some decent balls in.

[Mon Dieu4]

Think Lavezzi had a great game today and put in some shift

[hibsbollah]

Hazard off.

[hibsbollah]

Higuain off. Hes been outstanding. Gago on.

[hibsbollah]

Disappointing second half. Belgiums main tactic seemed to be waiting for a lucky bounce from a knockdown. Ref didnt help with a lot of overfussy spl-like decisions. Delighted Lionel and his boys are through though.

[Mon Dieu4]

Argentina coasted that, never once felt overly worried for them, best team performance they've had so far, not overly impressive football but they did enough to win and could have went up a gear if needed, specially with Di Maria going off early

[Keith_M]

OK, as I've now ruined the chances of yet another team by 'supporting' them*, I've decided to back the team I actually want to get put out.....


.....C'mon Deutschland :wink:






* Nigeria, Algeria, France and now Belgium have suffered my 'support' so far. Sorry guys.

:embarrass

[Hibrandenburg]

OK, as I've now ruined the chances of yet another team by 'supporting' them*, I've decided to back the team I actually want to get put out.....


.....C'mon Deutschland :wink:






* Nigeria, Algeria, France and now Belgium have suffered my 'support' so far. Sorry guys.

:embarrass

Kin you no get a season ticket for Tynie yah ****ing jinx yeh!

[Keith_M]

Kin you no get a season ticket for Tynie yah ****ing jinx yeh!


Actually, that's a no bad suggestion


:greengrin

[Gatecrasher]

2 weeks ago they were saying England are too naive in international football now they are slagging Robben.

[SJNB Hibby]

Well as much as an Argentina v Holland semi would be perfect, you gotta pull for the Tica's

[Gatecrasher]

The boy standing in front of the Dutch goalie looks like a lost boy from Peter Pan

[majorhibs]

Early doors with Germans & Dutch amongst others, but tell you what if it happened a Brasil Argentina final at the Maracana would be an atmosphere to remember IMO. Sorry just seen Neymar out of competition, so's Brasil then IMO, mebbes now we'll get a Euro winner in S. America, just need to crock Messi & job done, much as I've liked this compo the boot boys seem to be taking care of the flair players when they need to.

[(((Fergus)))]

Don't know how anyone can support Costa Rica, but there you go...

[SJNB Hibby]

Don't know how anyone can support Costa Rica, but there you go...

Breath of fresh air??

[(((Fergus)))]

Breath of fresh air??

1990 - and I'll leave it at that.

[SJNB Hibby]

[QUOTE=Fergus;4088058]1990 - and I'll leave it at that.[/QUOTE
Holland, 1978 and 1996?

Boy if we're gonna hate every team that beat us ina major tournament, there's not many teams left to support:confused:

[heretoday]

Who's the co-commentator? He's almost as bad as Lawrenson. Honestly, the BBC coverage has been dreadful.

[Jonnyboy]

Who's the co-commentator? He's almost as bad as Lawrenson. Honestly, the BBC coverage has been dreadful.

Fan .. I mean Danny Murphy

Bore fest so far

[(((Fergus)))]

[QUOTE=Fergus;4088058]1990 - and I'll leave it at that.[/QUOTE
Holland, 1978 and 1996?

Boy if we're gonna hate every team that beat us ina major tournament, there's not many teams left to support:confused:

Only kidding.

On the other hand, if they go on and win it... there'd only be one team they played that they didn't manage to beat...

[SJNB Hibby]

Well thats as bad a first half as we've seen this tournament

[down-the-slope]

Am I alone in feeling the WC has gone downhill apace during 1/4 finals? Has been great before that but now its shadow boxing and don't lose...boring

[Mon Dieu4]

Am I alone in feeling the WC has gone downhill apace during 1/4 finals? Has been great before that but now its shadow boxing and don't lose...boring

Agree a bit but the standard of teams is better now leading to stalemates and as you say they are afraid to lose

[ionahibby]

Holland Costa Rica isn't really living up to expectations to be honest. Still convinced it will be Brazil Argentina final.

[(((Fergus)))]

five live commentator pronouncing "Borges" as "bawhairs"

[Mr White]

five live commentator pronouncing "Borges" as "bawhairs"

Maybe he'd call you fek-youse :greengrin

[Sir David Gray]

Am I alone in feeling the WC has gone downhill apace during 1/4 finals? Has been great before that but now its shadow boxing and don't lose...boring

Nope, by and large it's been murder in the knockout stages.

[BoltonHibee]

I hope someone boots Robben so hard in the balls they fly up through his throat, the cheating twat

[Mon Dieu4]

Are Holland trying to beat Nish's offside record here

[Gatecrasher]

Van Persie just missed a sitter.

[(((Fergus)))]

Maybe he'd call you fek-youse :greengrin

:greengrin

[Sir David Gray]

How did that stay out!?

[(((Fergus)))]

O.m.g.

[Gatecrasher]

Holland have been really unlucky, they could have had 3 or 4 easy.

[Mon Dieu4]

Extra time will be suiting Argentina big time in this game

[GoldenMeerkat]

Navas :grr:

[Time For Heroes]

Another Extra Time, what a World Cup this has been!

[Hibernia Na Eir]

Am I alone in feeling the WC has gone downhill apace during 1/4 finals? Has been great before that but now its shadow boxing and don't lose...boring

Your not on your own.

It's been fairly pants since end of group stages imo.

Very disappointed in the last 16 games and even more so in last 8.

Pity.

Was heading towards one of THE best WC's ever, imo.

[down-the-slope]

Are Holland trying to beat Nish's offside record here


Holland have been really unlucky, they could have had 3 or 4 easy.

Who is this Holland you speak of :grr: as bad as the commentators.......Its the Netherlands.....Holland (North and South) are two regions of the Netherlands....

Or did you skive Geography...It would be like referring to Scotland as Lothian...





And breathe......

[J-C]

Am I alone in feeling the WC has gone downhill apace during 1/4 finals? Has been great before that but now its shadow boxing and don't lose...boring

8 group winners and all of a similar standard, they're just cancelling each other out, fascinating but boring stuff at times.

How aer Holland not winning by now, Costa Rica really using up all their luck in this game.

[Mon Dieu4]

Who is this Holland you speak of :grr: as bad as the commentators.......Its the Netherlands.....Holland (North and South) are two regions of the Netherlands....

Or did you skive Geography...It would be like referring to Scotland as Lothian...





And breathe......

Hope the Hollanders go out here

[iwasthere1972]

Pretty dire stuff for a quarter final.

Come on the penalties.

[Hibrandenburg]

Who is this Holland you speak of :grr: as bad as the commentators.......Its the Netherlands.....Holland (North and South) are two regions of the Netherlands....

Or did you skive Geography...It would be like referring to Scotland as Lothian...





And breathe......

Strange, I can hear all these Niederländer shouting "Holland". Maybe you should go over there and educate them.

[SJNB Hibby]

Who is this Holland you speak of :grr: as bad as the commentators.......Its the Netherlands.....Holland (North and South) are two regions of the Netherlands....

Or did you skive Geography...It would be like referring to Scotland as Lothian...





And breathe......

Or Britain as England

[Golden Bear]

Boring, boring, boring. Only one team trying to win this game and the other playing for penalties.

It's not a patch on this afternoon's epic encounter at Victoria Park Innerleithen!

[(((Fergus)))]

Who is this Holland you speak of :grr: as bad as the commentators.......Its the Netherlands.....Holland (North and South) are two regions of the Netherlands....

Or did you skive Geography...It would be like referring to Scotland as Lothian...





And breathe......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JclgB4_k2g

:wink:

[Hibernia Na Eir]

amazed if this goes to pens!!

[Hibernia Na Eir]

Holland Costa Rica isn't really living up to expectations to be honest. Still convinced it will be Brazil Argentina final.

....and the Argentine to be victorious!

[Gatecrasher]

Costa Rica are like the South American Greece.

[Hibernia Na Eir]

Costa Rica are like the South American Greece.

to be fair, they did say they are stunned to be where they are.

Can you blame them for sitting deep?

[Mon Dieu4]

Costa Rica are like the South American Greece.

That's a bit harsh, the have tried to win every game they have played in and played some decent stuff, can't blame them for defending against a better team than them

[poolman]

Robben is a cheat in diving &*#%

[(((Fergus)))]

Koontelaar

[down-the-slope]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JclgB4_k2g

:wink:
youtube...that flawless reference library that tells us the moon is made of green cheese ...:rolleyes:

[(((Fergus)))]

Never ever seen Greece play like this

[(((Fergus)))]

youtube...that flawless reference library that tells us the moon is made of green cheese ...:rolleyes:


LOL that is Dutch folk singing a well-known :wink: Dutch football song.

[SteveHFC]

Come on Costa Rica

[poolman]

This is fab

[(((Fergus)))]

This is a great game, by the way. At least I'm enjoying it

[(((Fergus)))]

That CR back 5 is very disciplined

[mutley]

Sub the keeper! That's unusual

[Pretty Boy]

How to kill your keepers confidence in one easy leasson.

[Mon Dieu4]

Where are the De Boers when you need them?

Mon Costa Rica lets do this

[hibee_girl]

It's set for Krul to muck it up now!

[Godsahibby]

What a game!!!

Really don't understand the keeper situation.

[(((Fergus)))]

How to kill your keepers confidence in one easy leasson.

And pile pressure on the other keeper. Strange one. Unless he saves them all. :greengrin

[SteveHFC]

If Krul ****s one of these up Van Gaal is going to look a complete twat.

[Jones28]

Like Ferdinand said, the pressure must surely be on Krul now. He's come on just for this.

2 saves in 20 penalties for Newcastle!

[down-the-slope]

LOL that is Dutch folk singing a well-known :wink: Dutch football song.

No thats a picture of the Netherlands Squad with some numpties singing a soundtrack...it happens in football...Dutch is a language you know? spoken in Holland which is part of the Netherlands :greengrin

[Mon Dieu4]

Krul is a dirty bassa the ref should be getting him told

[down-the-slope]

Krul is a dirty bassa the ref should be getting him told


Pantomime villian

[Pretty Boy]

Dutch penalties have all been perfect.

[Mon Dieu4]

Pantomime villian

The ref should have told him to get on his line well before the player gets there

[SteveHFC]

**** off Holland

[Pretty Boy]

Great substitution on the night but the long term effects could be interesting.

[down-the-slope]

Van Gaal's the daddy.....

[Mon Dieu4]

unlucky Costa Rica, what a great tournament, they are all heroes

[mutley]

Well, it worked for them, well done Netherlands, unlucky Costa Rica

[Hibernia Na Eir]

Mon the underdogs!

[(((Fergus)))]

**** off holand, ****ing junkie ****

[GoldenMeerkat]

Football can be a Krul game.

Hup Holland Hup!

[down-the-slope]

**** off holand, ****ing junkie ****

Eh who are they :wink:

[Hibernia Na Eir]

cheating git

[Hibernia Na Eir]

**** off Krul. cheating ****er

[Mon Dieu4]

And so the Van Gaal love in begins

[GoldenMeerkat]

Bring on the Argies.

Go Oranje!

[Hibernia Na Eir]

dirty smelly orange.

[Hibernia Na Eir]

Bring on the Argies.

Go Oranje!
Utterly and sincerely hope they fuuuk the Dutch.

[Gatecrasher]

to be fair, they did say they are stunned to be where they are.

Can you blame them for sitting deep?
Glad the Netherlands went through, up until the last 5 mins of ET, Costa Rica made very little attempt to win the game. I understand why They played that way but it made the game really boring.
Van gaal is definitely a ....

http://youtu.be/y0QbXfvbjFk

[Mon Dieu4]

Four heavyweights left now and all could win it

[Hibernia Na Eir]

Glad the Netherlands went through, up until the last 5 mins of ET, Costa Rica made very little attempt to win the game. I understand why They played that way but it made the game really boring.
Van gaal is definitely a ....

http://youtu.be/y0QbXfvbjFk

If you cast your mind back, the orange team failed to excite in any other game bar their first versus a long - finished Spanish outfit.
Netherlands been as impressive as a slug.

[Hibernia Na Eir]

Four heavyweights left now and all could win it

Unfortunately, each of them not a patch on what they once were.
'Heavyweights', bit too flattering!
Off to watch '82 highlights!

[NOLA]

has to go down as a great sub by van gaal, taking of the Mcneilish cillessen for a much more imposing figure between the sticks for pens in Krul, credit where its due. worked a treat.

[Jim44]

The last second substitution of the Dutch goalie left a bad taste in my mouth. Even though it produced a result for the future fat manager of Manure Utd., I still think it was an anti- football decision and not in the spirit of the game. No doubt my attitude will be mocked here but there is a level below which you don't stoop but the Dutch ignored it and I hope Messi takes them to the cleaners.

[Pete]

has to go down as a great sub by van gaal, taking of the Mcneilish cillessen for a much more imposing figure between the sticks for pens in Krul, credit where its due. worked a treat.

I genuinely believed that their manager won them that shoot out before it took place with that substitution. The Costa Ricans must have been thinking "why is he specifically coming on now, he must be an expert". It would have added to the pressure and given them something else to consider. He is also more physically imposing (which must make a difference) and he was obviously told to try and put them off.

As for adding pressure to the keeper...there is absolutely no pressure whatsoever on a keeper during a shoot out no matter what the circumstances. It's all on the taker. It was obviously pre-planned as the number one looked like he was well in on it and never looked out of joint at any stage. It is a squad game and and I think Van Gaal has united this squad and made the fringe players realise that they are just as important as the first eleven if media reports are anything to go by.

A master stroke that worked, and would probably work again seeing as Krull did his job and made an excellent save to win it.

[Pete]

...and say what you like about Robben, he was absolutely fantastic and showed great energy right to the last. One of the players of the tournament for me.

[--------]

I genuinely believed that their manager won them that shoot out before it took place with that substitution. The Costa Ricans must have been thinking "why is he specifically coming on now, he must be an expert". It would have added to the pressure and given them something else to consider. He is also more physically imposing (which must make a difference) and he was obviously told to try and put them off.

As for adding pressure to the keeper...there is absolutely no pressure whatsoever on a keeper during a shoot out no matter what the circumstances. It's all on the taker. It was obviously pre-planned as the number one looked like he was well in on it and never looked out of joint at any stage. It is a squad game and and I think Van Gaal has united this squad and made the fringe players realise that they are just as important as the first eleven if media reports are anything to go by.

A master stroke that worked, and would probably work again seeing as Krull did his job and made an excellent save to win it.


...and say what you like about Robben, he was absolutely fantastic and showed great energy right to the last. One of the players of the tournament for me.


Yup. There was a bit of nonsense from the commentators about how the #1 keeper would feel being subbed, but Van Gaal's no fool - that was a pre-arranged ploy undoubtedly based on performances in training, and it paid off handsomely. I don't particularly like Tim Krul, but he did the job. As far as I know there's nothing in the Laws of the Game to say you can't sub your goalie with a minute to go.

And Robben, I have to say, has been magnificent. IMO it's no coincidence he's been conspicuously making the effort to stay upright this tournament. He's largely cut out the gamesmanship and he's become virtually unstoppable. As you say - one of the players of the tournament. Pity he's playing in what isn't a particularly good Dutch team. (Even if they are in the semis!)

[hihohibby]

I don't particularly like Tim Krul, but he did the job. (Even if they are in the semis!)

Krul was a yard off his line when he saved that decisive penalty. It should have been retaken and Krul given a talking to by the referee. Why did the linesman not flag it up. He was staring right at Krul as he came off his line. This type of decision is scandalous -especially in a high profile and crucial game - a world cup quarter final. Should the goalkeeper not remain on his line until the ball is actually kicked?:confused:

[Pete]

Krul was a yard off his line when he saved that decisive penalty. It should have been retaken and Krul given a talking to by the referee. Why did the linesman not flag it up. He was staring right at Krul as he came off his line. This type of decision is scandalous -especially in a high profile and crucial game - a world cup quarter final. Should the goalkeeper not remain on his line until the ball is actually kicked?:confused:

I agree that it should be clamped down on but it's happening in every shoot out and practically every keeper does it, especially the smaller ones. The decisive penalty that eliminated Greece is another example.

[lapsedhibee]

And Robben, I have to say, has been magnificent. IMO it's no coincidence he's been conspicuously making the effort to stay upright this tournament. He's largely cut out the gamesmanship and he's become virtually unstoppable.

:wtf:

[Baader]

Yup. There was a bit of nonsense from the commentators about how the #1 keeper would feel being subbed, but Van Gaal's no fool - that was a pre-arranged ploy undoubtedly based on performances in training, and it paid off handsomely. I don't particularly like Tim Krul, but he did the job. As far as I know there's nothing in the Laws of the Game to say you can't sub your goalie with a minute to go.

And Robben, I have to say, has been magnificent. IMO it's no coincidence he's been conspicuously making the effort to stay upright this tournament. He's largely cut out the gamesmanship and he's become virtually unstoppable. As you say - one of the players of the tournament. Pity he's playing in what isn't a particularly good Dutch team. (Even if they are in the semis!)

Robben? Did you see him against Mexico?!!

[Keith_M]

And Robben, I have to say, has been magnificent. IMO it's no coincidence he's been conspicuously making the effort to stay upright this tournament. He's largely cut out the gamesmanship and he's become virtually unstoppable. As you say - one of the players of the tournament. Pity he's playing in what isn't a particularly good Dutch team. (Even if they are in the semis!)


Is that the same Robben that dived three times against Mexico?

He even admitted to, and apologised for, one dive after the match but said the penalty incident wasn't a dive.

[Phil D. Rolls]

The last second substitution of the Dutch goalie left a bad taste in my mouth. Even though it produced a result for the future fat manager of Manure Utd., I still think it was an anti- football decision and not in the spirit of the game. No doubt my attitude will be mocked here but there is a level below which you don't stoop but the Dutch ignored it and I hope Messi takes them to the cleaners.

That's out of order, it's within the rules of the game. Every innovation draws criticism, from the introduction of penalty kicks, substitutions, the defensive wall etc.

Teams substitute outfield players for tactical reasons - why not goalies?

[Hibrandenburg]

Is that the same Robben that dived three times against Mexico?

He even admitted to, and apologised for, one dive after the match but said the penalty incident wasn't a dive.

Robben in German means seals. Quite fitting when you consider he spends most of his time flapping about on the ground like he's begging for a fish.

Hey Keeks, can you no start supporting them?

[RyeSloan]

Great decision by Van Gal.....took a risk and it paid off.

Robben was outstanding....aye he can take a dive or two but there is no hiding the quality if the player and his energy levels last night were superb, he never stopped running at CR and caused them all sorts of problems all night long. The way he cuts past players with that left foot of his is phenomenal.

[Phil D. Rolls]

dirty smelly orange.


If you cast your mind back, the orange team failed to excite in any other game bar their first versus a long - finished Spanish outfit.
Netherlands been as impressive as a slug.

Can see what you're trying to do there. No need for bigotry on here, even by the back door.

[Scouse Hibee]

The last second substitution of the Dutch goalie left a bad taste in my mouth. Even though it produced a result for the future fat manager of Manure Utd., I still think it was an anti- football decision and not in the spirit of the game. No doubt my attitude will be mocked here but there is a level below which you don't stoop but the Dutch ignored it and I hope Messi takes them to the cleaners.


Nonsense, no different to bringing on a player who you consider to be one of your best penalty takers.

[easty]

Nonsense, no different to bringing on a player who you consider to be one of your best penalty takers.

There's nothing wrong with it at all. It's no more anti-football than bringing on a pacey striker with 10 mins to go to run at a tired defence.

[heretoday]

The goalie substitution were perfectly ok in my opinion. What I didn't like was Krul going up to the Costa pen takers and trying to put them off. Ref was remiss in allowing that.

[cabbageandribs1875]

only four games left :(

[blackpoolhibs]

The goalie substitution were perfectly ok in my opinion. What I didn't like was Krul going up to the Costa pen takers and trying to put them off. Ref was remiss in allowing that.

Right or wrong, it says more about our mentality. we still think we should be gentlemen at certain times during a game, but dont mind claiming for throw ins that are never ours, corners that are not corners, and penalties that are just not penalties.

Krul was just doing a bit of gamesmanship, by getting into the penalty takers head. Its was entirely up to the officials as you said to stop it, but they didn't.

We seem to think a little cheating is alright, but there's a line we as Brits don't like to cross, but other countries laugh at this, and continue to outperform us every tournament.

[easty]

Right or wrong, it says more about our mentality. we still think we should be gentlemen at certain times during a game, but dont mind claiming for throw ins that are never ours, corners that are not corners, and penalties that are just not penalties.

Krul was just doing a bit of gamesmanship, by getting into the penalty takers head. Its was entirely up to the officials as you said to stop it, but they didn't.

We seem to think a little cheating is alright, but there's a line we as Brits don't like to cross, but other countries laugh at this, and continue to outperform us every tournament.

I've no problem with what Krul was doing. Trying to psyche out the opposition is fine. The Costa Ricans who were taking the pens could easily have tried to noise him up.

[blackpoolhibs]

I've no problem with what Krul was doing. Trying to psyche out the opposition is fine. The Costa Ricans who were taking the pens could easily have tried to noise him up.

:agree: Does not seem to be wrong in Cricket, in fact they even print books on the best sledges in the game.

And this is supposed to be a gentlemans game.

[--------]

Robben? Did you see him against Mexico?!!


Is that the same Robben that dived three times against Mexico?

He even admitted to, and apologised for, one dive after the match but said the penalty incident wasn't a dive.


Weeeeelll....

Maybe I was exaggerating a wee bit. :devil:

Compared with the way he was carrying on in the CL for Bayern last season, I'd still say he's not been as bad.

[The_Horde]

Krul was a yard off his line when he saved that decisive penalty. It should have been retaken and Krul given a talking to by the referee. Why did the linesman not flag it up. He was staring right at Krul as he came off his line. This type of decision is scandalous -especially in a high profile and crucial game - a world cup quarter final. Should the goalkeeper not remain on his line until the ball is actually kicked?:confused:

Pretty sure the CR keeper was well off his line for a couple penalties too and not just in that game.

The only issue with the Krul thing would've been if the other keeper had taken it to heart but it was clearly a planned move and he was celebrating every save like he made them himself. Van Gaal has them playing as a team and they've been good to watch, especially tactically.

People forget that on the flip side Krul could be like "so I'm not good enough to start but you can put me on for pens? Bolt"

If the keeper who started's confidence is ruined then he shouldn't be a top player. If I was him I'd be chomping at the bit to save a penalty between now and the end of the tournament.

[--------]

Krul was a yard off his line when he saved that decisive penalty. It should have been retaken and Krul given a talking to by the referee. Why did the linesman not flag it up. He was staring right at Krul as he came off his line. This type of decision is scandalous -especially in a high profile and crucial game - a world cup quarter final. Should the goalkeeper not remain on his line until the ball is actually kicked?:confused:


Yup. Law 14.

And how many goalkeepers do you see staying absolutely on their line until the ball has been kicked?

How many times did Ben Williams save epenalties for us by coming off his line prematurely?

How far was Navas off the line when Kuyt took the fourth Dutch penalty? You seriously suggest that Navas wasn't way off his line when he saved penalties in the previous round?

How long do you think a penalty shoot-out would take if every time a goalkeeper infringed this rule even a little bit the penalty had to be retaken? We'd still be there at daybreak.

There was no reason why Van Gaal shouldn't have made that substitution. He's explained quite clearly why he did so.

Krul's talking to the penalty-takers might not be in the Corinthian spirit of good sportsmanship, but there's no rule saying he can't do it and he's by no means the only one who does it. It's up to the penalty-taker to deal with it.

And objecting to one keeper coming off his line prematurely when the other keeper was doing exactly the same?

No comment.

[Time For Heroes]

What amused me about last night game is the Van Gaal love in from the press.
Granted Costa Rica has been amazing in this World Cup but folk have said he's a tactical genius for subbing the keepers?
Really?
For me he's played a blinder, the dutch were average last night and managed to scrape through but he is getting plaudits.
All very strange imo

[Keith_M]

Robben in German means seals. Quite fitting when you consider he spends most of his time flapping about on the ground like he's begging for a fish.

Hey Keeks, can you no start supporting them?


No!

I'm currently doing my best to Jinx the Erics.


:na na:

[The_Horde]

What amused me about last night game is the Van Gaal love in from the press.
Granted Costa Rica has been amazing in this World Cup but folk have said he's a tactical genius for subbing the keepers?
Really?
For me he's played a blinder, the dutch were average last night and managed to scrape through but he is getting plaudits.
All very strange imo

He's managed to scrape through an average side. I'd say that's pretty good management no?

[blackpoolhibs]

;4088759']He's managed to scrape through an average side. I'd say that's pretty good management no?

Will get more opportunities next season to do the same. :greengrin

[Time For Heroes]

;4088759']He's managed to scrape through an average side. I'd say that's pretty good management no?

I didn't say they were average, I said the played average last night.
Do you see where I'm coming from though?

[SteveHFC]

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[SteveHFC]

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[Betty Boop]

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Wrong thread !

[SteveHFC]

Wrong thread !

:boo hoo:

[Time For Heroes]

Personally for me Steve you could put that content on every thread :D

[Gatecrasher]

:boo hoo:
It's always the right thread :agree:

[The_Horde]

I didn't say they were average, I said the played average last night.
Do you see where I'm coming from though?

I see Van Gaal getting a lot more attention than other managers but that's to be expected on British television given that he's just become manager of one of the biggest clubs in the world.

He has also merited some praise. In the game before he changed their style dramatically and wasn't afraid to go long. He also made the right subs in that match. And he made a brave and ruthless move last night that worked.

I'm saying the Dutch are average individually but playing brilliantly as a team and that's down to van gaal IMO.

I hope he fails miserably at Old Trafford though.

[Haymaker]

Brasil have asked for the yellow card to Thiago Silva be recinded.

[mim]

Brasil have asked for the yellow card to Thiago Silva be recinded.

Is that even possible?

[Haymaker]

Is that even possible?

Never been done before but apparently FIFA are "looking over the evidence".

[Time For Heroes]

;4088857']I see Van Gaal getting a lot more attention than other managers but that's to be expected on British television given that he's just become manager of one of the biggest clubs in the world.

He has also merited some praise. In the game before he changed their style dramatically and wasn't afraid to go long. He also made the right subs in that match. And he made a brave and ruthless move last night that worked.

I'm saying the Dutch are average individually but playing brilliantly as a team and that's down to van gaal IMO.

I hope he fails miserably at Old Trafford though.

I agree with most of what you are saying, however calling the Dutch squad average is just daft.

[Phil D. Rolls]

Never been done before but apparently FIFA are "looking over the evidence".

They will get every bit of help they need.

[SteveHFC]

Personally for me Steve you could put that content on every thread :D

I could start a Scottish Championship babes 2014/15 thread ;-)

[Aldo]

I could start a Scottish Championship babes 2014/15 thread ;-)

You could.... Here's miss Yam 2014



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[The_Horde]

I agree with most of what you are saying, however calling the Dutch squad average is just daft.

Their 3 bigger stars apart they have a squad of players who have potential but aren't quite there yet and players like vlaar who play for run of the mill teams like Aston Villa. Kuyt has been playing full back the last couple of games.

Maybe average is being too harsh but they're certainly, on paper, not blessed with as many riches as the likes of Spain (who have a pretty amazing squad of players who didn't work as a team at all)

What I'm trying to say is that they have a capable squad overall who've probably gotten further than they would've because he's installed the right mentality into them and made some pretty tough but, ultimately, good decisions along the way.

[Time For Heroes]

;4089097']Their 3 bigger stars apart they have a squad of players who have potential but aren't quite there yet and players like vlaar who play for run of the mill teams like Aston Villa. Kuyt has been playing full back the last couple of games.

Maybe average is being too harsh but they're certainly, on paper, not blessed with as many riches as the likes of Spain (who have a pretty amazing squad of players who didn't work as a team at all)

What I'm trying to say is that they have a capable squad overall who've probably gotten further than they would've because he's installed the right mentality into them and made some pretty tough but, ultimately, good decisions along the way.
Fair balanced opinion mate, can't really argue with what you are saying. Going back to my original point though the Dutch side should have (along with other teams in the competition) easily beaten Costa Rica without the need for penalties.
I agree with you that Van Gaal will get a lot of attention, like you said, just don't buy into the tactical genius side of it.
I do think he's a great manager and I expect big things from United next season, but last night was more luck than tactical genius IMO

[Time For Heroes]

You could.... Here's miss Yam 2014



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If folk like Aldo will post that please retract that last statement please Steve.
Haha
I really hope that isn't saved somewhere on your computer either Aldo.

[Aldo]

If folk like Aldo will post that please retract that last statement please Steve. Haha I really hope that isn't saved somewhere on your computer either Aldo.

;-)

[(((Fergus)))]

;4088705']Pretty sure the CR keeper was well off his line for a couple penalties too and not just in that game.

The only issue with the Krul thing would've been if the other keeper had taken it to heart but it was clearly a planned move and he was celebrating every save like he made them himself. Van Gaal has them playing as a team and they've been good to watch, especially tactically.

People forget that on the flip side Krul could be like "so I'm not good enough to start but you can put me on for pens? Bolt"

If the keeper who started's confidence is ruined then he shouldn't be a top player. If I was him I'd be chomping at the bit to save a penalty between now and the end of the tournament.

You're right the sub was obviously something they'd planned beforehand. It's not something they'd have done off the cuff.

Edit: Cancel that:

Cillessen, who kicked a water bottle as he came off, said: "I didn't know it was going to happen, so I was angry. I wanted to play the penalty shootout. It is a pity I wasn't told before, but it worked very well."

[(((Fergus)))]

http://a.pomf.se/lfjrtd.gif


Is that one for the ladyboy or the bum cheeks? :greengrin

[(((Fergus)))]

I could start a Scottish Championship babes 2014/15 thread ;-)

With all due respect, PLEASE GOD NO

[Keith_M]

:boo hoo:


Steve, you're a young man, you need to get a healthier hobby.... preferably something outdoors.

:wink:

[SteveHFC]

Really hope Germany pump Brazil tonight :agree:

[Steve20]

I put money on Brazil to win it before the tournament started, so I'll be supporting Brazil tonight.

Not confident, though.

[Haymaker]

Come on Ze Germans!

[hfc rd]

Got a small feeling that it might be a Germany vs Holland final.

I don't know how Brazil are going to cope without Neymar and Thiago Silva (their two best players) tonight against the Germans who will be gunning for revenge after the 2002 final.

LVG has worked wonders with his tactics and big decision makings that he has made so far. He's got his tactics spot on in all their games so fat and isn't afraid to make the big decisions when no one expects them. I'm sure he will have something up his sleeve.

[Haymaker]

Is it an 8 or 9pm kick off?

[Time For Heroes]

Is it an 8 or 9pm kick off?

9pm GMT
:D

[Haymaker]

9pm GMT
:D
Now... Do I go down the pub or stay in?

[easty]

'Mon Brazil.

With Neymar and Thiago Silva out the bookies probably have it right for the Germans to be favourites, but I still fancy Brazil to go through.

Dante is a good defender to replace Thiago Silva, Neymar is far harder to replace in the starting lineup. We might see a Brazil side come out and play as more of a team now though.

Couple of bets for me tonight, Hulk to score and Brazil to win 5/1 and Oscar to score with Brazil to win 6/1.

[Keith_M]

9pm GMT
:D


No it's not, it's 8PM GMT.

[Cod Boy]

Ozil anytime goalscorer.

[easty]

No it's not, it's 8PM GMT.

Naw, it's 9pm.

[Keith_M]

No it's not, it's 8PM GMT.


Naw, it's 9pm.

It's 9PM BST

Which is 8PM GMT

:wink:

[Haymaker]

Naw, it's 9pm.

9pm BST no GMT!

Beaten by keekaboo!

[Lewis77]

I could start a Scottish Championship babes 2014/15 thread ;-)

That isnae hard. All you'd hae to do is head aff doon the chimp enclosure at Edinburgh zoo this a digital camera. Throw them a couple bottles of whisky first tae make it more authentic likes.

[21.05.2016]

Draw and both teams to score in 90 minutes - thats where my moneys at :aok:

[Keith_M]

9pm BST no GMT!

Beaten by keekaboo!


If yer no fast, yer last :wink:

[PeeJay]

Hope Germany win this one, and I hope they do it without any need for ET and penalties - be interesting to see how Brazil cope without their best player, Germany haven't really convinced me, but they have done the job of scoring goals when needed. Think Brazil may have too much energy, passion and commitment for Germany this evening though - two good teams, could go any way ...

[pontius pilate]

All depends on who has lined the refs pockets more or who is flavour of the month with FIFA so ill go for brazil In the final