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HIBS NUTS
28-03-2023, 02:56 PM
Or Aiken
😉
My spelling has been terrible for years.
👍🏻
oneone73
28-03-2023, 03:03 PM
My spelling has been terrible for years.
👍🏻
Maybe you're just going through a bad spell.
eastmainsmsh
28-03-2023, 03:37 PM
Will he get regular 1st team football at Hull?
Who was the Striker who left to go to Rangers is he not coming back ? The grass isn’t always greener good prospect Aiken as well
DaveF
28-03-2023, 03:52 PM
Who was the Striker who left to go to Rangers is he not coming back ? The grass isn’t always greener good prospect Aiken as well
Connor Young. Pretty sure he went to a lower league, possibly non league club recently.
Edit - He's at East Fife
HIBS NUTS
28-03-2023, 05:04 PM
Maybe you're just going through a bad spell.
That’s brilllliant .😜
Brooster
28-03-2023, 09:21 PM
It's been well known for a while that Aiken is probably going to Hull. Personally I don't think we will miss him.
superfurryhibby
29-03-2023, 07:44 AM
It’s not a case of not being able to raise the money, Hibs could easily pay him what he wants but they presumably don’t think he is worth it. He’s a known quantity at U18/U19 level but it’s far from known whether he could make that jump to senior football. The club also has to consider the future pathways of those coming along after him - both Jacob MacIntyre and Rudi Molotnikov have greater potential than Murray Aiken IMO, if Aiken is given a large long term contract, how does that impact the potential pathway of those players?
I thought that Hibs offered a standard contract to the young guys they are keeping on when their first pro-youth type contracts expire as they turned 18, no deviation from the contract script for anyone?
That's the way it should be , they earn the right to earn more once they start having an impact.
HIBS NUTS
29-03-2023, 09:17 AM
It's been well known for a while that Aiken is probably going to Hull. Personally I don't think we will miss him.
He’s got a great attitude, but realistically, do we need a young unproven guy playing in our current midfield, probably not, the pathway would be to sign a new contract , play out on loan, prove yourself and get a new improved contract.
But giving out a bigger contract now, would restrict other good players getting a chance from the year below.
Hopefully if he goes, we get a development fee, and he gets on well, but not many other occupations are leaving one of the best cities in europe, to go to Hull. 😄
Fanforlife
31-03-2023, 03:48 PM
18,s play Motherwell tonight at East Mains. KO 7pm
tbfhibs2
31-03-2023, 06:14 PM
18,s play Motherwell tonight at East Mains. KO 7pm
1-0 Hibs, Alfie Smith
tbfhibs2
31-03-2023, 06:42 PM
1-0 Hibs, Alfie Smith
1-1
tbfhibs2
31-03-2023, 07:23 PM
Motherwell went 2-1 up, Rudi just equalised for Hibs.
tbfhibs2
31-03-2023, 07:53 PM
Ft 2-2
Tambo
04-04-2023, 09:18 AM
Dev Squad away to Kilmarnock today 2pm kick off.
GGTTH07
04-04-2023, 12:21 PM
Dev Squad away to Kilmarnock today 2pm kick off.
Lineup?
Tambo
04-04-2023, 12:31 PM
Lineup?
https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1643229617833033728?cxt=HHwWgIC29bKo9s0tAAAA
Not sure if link works but no first team players involved.
Sorry to lazy to post full team 😃
EGL2000
04-04-2023, 01:32 PM
1-0 Hibs, don't know who scored yet.
EGL2000
04-04-2023, 01:35 PM
Goal from Ethan Laidlaw
Brightside
04-04-2023, 01:44 PM
Goal from Ethan Laidlaw
Please just stick him in the team instead of McKirdy. He cannot be worse.
HIBS NUTS
04-04-2023, 01:52 PM
Please just stick him in the team instead of McKirdy. He cannot be worse.
He’s now scored a ridiculous amount of goals, he deserves at least a place in the main squad, if he is leaving or not.
GGTTH07
04-04-2023, 02:10 PM
He’s Signed a pre contract with Watford
Billy Whizz
04-04-2023, 02:13 PM
He’s Signed a pre contract with Watford
Are we due a development fee?
Brightside
04-04-2023, 02:14 PM
He’s Signed a pre contract with Watford
is that confirmed? shame if true.
JohnM1875
04-04-2023, 02:19 PM
He’s Signed a pre contract with Watford
That's really disappointing but not surprising considering he hasn't had a sniff of first team football here, even after banging goals in for fun and forwards being injured
Cod Boy
04-04-2023, 02:23 PM
With jair and Mckirdy and Henderson getting on the bench before him can’t blame the laddie no signing a contract.
CapitalGreen
04-04-2023, 02:25 PM
That's really disappointing but not surprising considering he hasn't had a sniff of first team football here, even after banging goals in for fun and forwards being injured
If he’s leaving for Watford it won’t be because of a lack of first team opportunities. he’ll be further away from the first team down there than he is here.
Billy Whizz
04-04-2023, 02:26 PM
Hibs saying O’Connor was the goal scorer
Ronniekirk
04-04-2023, 02:33 PM
He’s Signed a pre contract with Watford
Mind The Gap
Tully
04-04-2023, 02:49 PM
3 0 hibs
Stairway 2 7
04-04-2023, 02:51 PM
O'connor x 2, Laidlaw 1
PHeffernan
04-04-2023, 02:53 PM
Murray Aiken, captain of the U19 team is the player missing from todays squad.
Heard he was at Hull at the weekend. They tried to sign him in January and his contract is up at the end of this season.
erin go bragh
04-04-2023, 02:53 PM
Are we due a development fee?
Only if he was offered a new deal but can’t really blame the boy as never had a sniff of any game time with the first team.
superfurryhibby
04-04-2023, 03:05 PM
Only if he was offered a new deal but can’t really blame the boy as never had a sniff of any game time with the first team.
Maybe he might have if he hadn’t indicated he was planning on leaving? Next season, a 17-18 year old talent, may just have been able to get a foot in the door. He’s very unlikely to get a sniff at Watford.
PHeffernan
04-04-2023, 03:06 PM
Only if he was offered a new deal but can’t really blame the boy as never had a sniff of any game time with the first team.
Nisbet, Kukharevych and Hoppe will all be gone in the summer and McKirdy is showing little so Laidlaw is in a position to get a run.
For me he is waiting to see what other offers he gets. Same for O'Connor and Aiken.
Stairway 2 7
04-04-2023, 03:08 PM
Laidlaw will be 19 during the next season. Wherever he ends up he needs to be playing adult football, probably on loan.
Tambo
04-04-2023, 03:48 PM
Good result for the boys and disappointed if true about Laidlaw.
HIBS NUTS
04-04-2023, 04:01 PM
Good result for the boys and disappointed if true about Laidlaw.
Great result 👍🏻
and good to see them win their league.
But if the young guys don’t sign a contract, there is nothing hibs can do.
The european run definitely held back some of the guys going on loan, and also lifted the profile of some of our better players, who appear to have opted to go elsewhere.
Donegal Hibby
04-04-2023, 04:03 PM
Good result . Anyone know how the young guy McAllister is doing? , Didn't we not pay a decent fee for him as well?.
A bit on the game here .
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/report-kilmarnock-0-3-hibs-dev-squad
HIBS NUTS
04-04-2023, 04:11 PM
Good result . Anyone know how the young guy McAllister is doing? , Didn't we not pay a decent fee for him as well?.
A bit on the game here .
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/report-kilmarnock-0-3-hibs-dev-squad
First time i’ve seen the team, very young team out today, makes the result even better.
thanks 👍🏻
HIBERNIAN-0762
04-04-2023, 05:18 PM
Laidlaw and Josh surely get a seat on the bench on Sunday? Can't be any worse than Henderson and McKirdy 👍💚
cabbageandribs1875
04-04-2023, 07:48 PM
Laidlaw and Josh surely get a seat on the bench on Sunday? Can't be any worse than Henderson and McKirdy
if he's leaving he can get lost and and instead give someone that wants to be at the club a game
PHeffernan
04-04-2023, 08:04 PM
Good result . Anyone know how the young guy McAllister is doing? , Didn't we not pay a decent fee for him as well?.
A bit on the game here .
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/report-kilmarnock-0-3-hibs-dev-squad
He is 16 years old and was on the bench today so appears to be progressing well
Cat Stanton
05-04-2023, 07:18 AM
Laidlaw and Josh surely get a seat on the bench on Sunday? Can't be any worse than Henderson and McKirdy 👍💚
Tam McManus claiming they'll both leave at the end of the season because of lack of first team opportunities. Is this likely?
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/tam-mcmanus-left-infuriated-hibs-29628401
McGruber
05-04-2023, 07:31 AM
Tam McManus claiming they'll both leave at the end of the season because of lack of first team opportunities. Is this likely?
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/tam-mcmanus-left-infuriated-hibs-29628401
It looks a certainty. Hibs aren't a great club to be at if you are a young player looking for opportunities. There's loads of SPL clubs will give youth a chance but we aren't one of them. Obviously down to the management in place and might change if Johnson goes (which he should if we finish bottom 6)
We'll lose both due to either stubbornness or ignorance. We see McKirdy getting regular game time and still done nowt all season, add in Jair being on the bench and getting minutes earlier in the season. Of course these 2 young lads will be frustrated and asking questions of the management and if it was me I'd be thinking of moving too.
Only if he was offered a new deal but can’t really blame the boy as never had a sniff of any game time with the first team.
Maybe he told the club he wasn't willing to sign a new deal months ago so that's the reason why?
superfurryhibby
05-04-2023, 08:34 AM
We'll lose both due to either stubbornness or ignorance. We see McKirdy getting regular game time and still done nowt all season, add in Jair being on the bench and getting minutes earlier in the season. Of course these 2 young lads will be frustrated and asking questions of the management and if it was me I'd be thinking of moving too.
Who’s stubbornness or ignorance though?
If it were me, I’d be signing a contract and believing I was good enough to step up next season, especially knowing that Nisbet, Myko and probably McKirdy will be leaving the club in the summer.
As a point of interest, how close would you guess Laidlaw will be to first team football at Watford ( should he go there)?
Alfred E Newman
05-04-2023, 08:48 AM
We'll lose both due to either stubbornness or ignorance. We see McKirdy getting regular game time and still done nowt all season, add in Jair being on the bench and getting minutes earlier in the season. Of course these 2 young lads will be frustrated and asking questions of the management and if it was me I'd be thinking of moving too.
The failed policy of investing in young foreign players has cost our homegrown players their chance. With the exception of Youan it's been a disaster.
The Modfather
05-04-2023, 08:49 AM
Who’s stubbornness or ignorance though?
If it were me, I’d be signing a contract and believing I was good enough to step up next season, especially knowing that Nisbet, Myko and probably McKirdy will be leaving the club in the summer.
As a point of interest, how close would you guess Laidlaw will be to first team football at Watford ( should he go there)?
Is there any evidence they will get a chance next season? They didn’t get a chance last season despite a striker shortage, or finishing bottom 6. Haven’t had a chance this season, what must Macintyre and Megwa think when we chose to play Campbell ahead of them when all players in their position were out. Especially Megwa as we were at home to second bottom of the league at the time. None of the midfielders have had a chance despite our longstanding problems in that area. Etc etc
It might well be mistakes for players to go to Watford & Hull for their development, but I don’t think it’s a mistake leaving Hibs as the opportunities simply aren’t there and they have wasted a season’s development this season.
Stairway 2 7
05-04-2023, 09:05 AM
If they are good enough they would get game time. Connor Young has played 18 minutes in 5 games for East Fife, we heard it was a big mistake letting him go, Kurtis Byrne, Kane O'connor, I can't remember a player going away to bigger things recently.
Both players look good but they are young and should be signing and going on loan to lower leagues
GreenGray
05-04-2023, 09:13 AM
If they are good enough they would get game time. Connor Young has played 18 minutes in 5 games for East Fife, we heard it was a big mistake letting him go, Kurtis Byrne, Kane O'connor, I can't remember a player going away to bigger things recently.
Both players look good but they are young and should be signing and going on loan to lower leagues
I’m sure hibs wanted to keep them, not sure how true it is but you hear that they got offered really low money to stay.
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Brightside
05-04-2023, 09:18 AM
We'll lose both due to either stubbornness or ignorance. We see McKirdy getting regular game time and still done nowt all season, add in Jair being on the bench and getting minutes earlier in the season. Of course these 2 young lads will be frustrated and asking questions of the management and if it was me I'd be thinking of moving too.
Our management team don't think they are good enough. And it ends there.
Stairway 2 7
05-04-2023, 09:40 AM
I’m sure hibs wanted to keep them, not sure how true it is but you hear that they got offered really low money to stay.
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They wouldn't have got offered lower than what all the others in their age group have just extended on. The problem is they probably think they are worth more, perhaps they are correct and will get more elsewhere.
I personally wouldn't offer them more than the standard for the age. The chances are only a couple or less from their age group will make it to our level and we don't have too much money to gamble
Onceinawhile
05-04-2023, 10:38 AM
If they are good enough they would get game time. Connor Young has played 18 minutes in 5 games for East Fife, we heard it was a big mistake letting him go, Kurtis Byrne, Kane O'connor, I can't remember a player going away to bigger things recently.
Both players look good but they are young and should be signing and going on loan to lower leagues
There was two young full backs in the butcher era and everyone was screaming out for them to play constantly and how it would be a massive mistake if they left. One went to Inverness and has disappeared, the other, I can't remember what happened to him.
Baptie was maybe one of them?
Anyway, I agree, can't think of a single "one that got away" with Sean Welsh maybe being the closest to it.
easty
05-04-2023, 10:46 AM
Is there any evidence they will get a chance next season? They didn’t get a chance last season despite a striker shortage, or finishing bottom 6. Haven’t had a chance this season, what must Macintyre and Megwa think when we chose to play Campbell ahead of them when all players in their position were out. Especially Megwa as we were at home to second bottom of the league at the time. None of the midfielders have had a chance despite our longstanding problems in that area. Etc etc
It might well be mistakes for players to go to Watford & Hull for their development, but I don’t think it’s a mistake leaving Hibs as the opportunities simply aren’t there and they have wasted a season’s development this season.
They had a great European run this season, I think it’s wrong to say it’s been a wasted season of development.
Who’s stubbornness or ignorance though?
If it were me, I’d be signing a contract and believing I was good enough to step up next season, especially knowing that Nisbet, Myko and probably McKirdy will be leaving the club in the summer.
As a point of interest, how close would you guess Laidlaw will be to first team football at Watford ( should he go there)?
LJ and his management team, they sign McKirdy and Jair who are both very poor bur still get ahead of 2 talented ho.e grown players, they've had zero chance to prove themselves.
The Modfather
05-04-2023, 10:53 AM
There was two young full backs in the butcher era and everyone was screaming out for them to play constantly and how it would be a massive mistake if they left. One went to Inverness and has disappeared, the other, I can't remember what happened to him.
Baptie was maybe one of them?
Anyway, I agree, can't think of a single "one that got away" with Sean Welsh maybe being the closest to it.
Think Callum Crane was the other. There’s not too many we’ve let go we would have been better keeping. Probably only Witherspoon, Sean Welsh & Callum Booth, all would have been good squad players over the years.
However how many short term squad fillers have we signed? Off the top of my head Mavrios, Nelom, Big Dave, Eardley, Schofield, Nathan Wood, Someone Barnes, Bigiranana, Spector etc etc. They probably have a handful of appearances between them. How much better could the budget be spent if we used the youth academy to find out players aren’t good enough when the first picks are unavailable, rather than bringing in squad fillers, with little intention of ever playing them it would seem, instead of padding the squad out from our own players.
King conrad
05-04-2023, 11:01 AM
If they are good enough they would get game time. Connor Young has played 18 minutes in 5 games for East Fife, we heard it was a big mistake letting him go, Kurtis Byrne, Kane O'connor, I can't remember a player going away to bigger things recently.
Both players look good but they are young and should be signing and going on loan to lower leagues
Excactly, Big jump from playing u18s to first team, maybe we should stop bigging these young players up , You never see Hearts doing it.
The Modfather
05-04-2023, 11:02 AM
They had a great European run this season, I think it’s wrong to say it’s been a wasted season of development.
I’m not convinced playing 6 (or however many it was) European games is as good as a season playing first team football in terms of development. As an example, and speaking from the outside so not with any real insight, but is the 6 European games Laidlaw played enough to develop? We’re in April now and he’s still playing solely in a league he looks to have long since outgrown. Same with those who went out on loan. Were the European games better than going out on loan at the start of the season.
I can’t help but feel it was closer to vanity from the club and Kean to point to the success of European run rather than the European run being better for development than players going out on loan for a season.
Blaster
05-04-2023, 11:10 AM
I’m not convinced playing 6 (or however many it was) European games is as good as a season playing first team football in terms of development. As an example, and speaking from the outside so not with any real insight, but is the 6 European games Laidlaw played enough to develop? We’re in April now and he’s still playing solely in a league he looks to have long since outgrown. Same with those who went out on loan. Were the European games better than going out on loan at the start of the season.
I can’t help but feel it was closer to vanity from the club and Kean to point to the success of European run rather than the European run being better for development than players going out on loan for a season.
I believe the European games stopped us being able to put these players out on loan. That’s what I think they needed
Unseen work
05-04-2023, 11:41 AM
I think people forget just how young they are and how big the jump is.
To me the ones that look closest to it would be Laidlaw, Megwa and Blaney.
Megwa and Blaney are both defenders so it would then come down to how do they cope dealing with a 5 ft 9 and 60kg 18 year old striker to a Curtis Main type.
Laidlaw is the one I think what harm would it be to Chuck him on last 15 instead of one of the various wingers we’ve used throughout the season.
Unfortunately managers will always choose players they trust, especially if they’re under pressure. I get why Johnson who has had a very mixed bag isn’t risking his job on young players and instead picking more experienced players.
Funny though as it might have the opposite effect on fans, they might get a little bit of hope, glimmer of excitement and buzz seeing a young player come in and do well.
HIBS NUTS
05-04-2023, 11:41 AM
I believe the European games stopped us being able to put these players out on loan. That’s what I think they needed
Agree the best players from the old under 18s would have been loaned out, the vast majority, who wont get a contract, would have been found alternatives.
and It would have showed hibs management if the players were worth, bigger contracts at the end of the season.
The contracts APPARENTLY offered by Hull,Watford or other championship clubs, can’t be matched by hibs.😞
This is we’re scottish football is at the moment.
Think Callum Crane was the other. There’s not too many we’ve let go we would have been better keeping. Probably only Witherspoon, Sean Welsh & Callum Booth, all would have been good squad players over the years.
However how many short term squad fillers have we signed? Off the top of my head Mavrios, Nelom, Big Dave, Eardley, Schofield, Nathan Wood, Someone Barnes, Bigiranana, Spector etc etc. They probably have a handful of appearances between them. How much better could the budget be spent if we used the youth academy to find out players aren’t good enough when the first picks are unavailable, rather than bringing in squad fillers, with little intention of ever playing them it would seem, instead of padding the squad out from our own players.
Wasn't long ago most on here were saying why Campbell was in the squad he's rubbish etc, with a good season or so behind him he's a regular starter.
Unseen work
05-04-2023, 11:53 AM
Agree the best players from the old under 18s would have been loaned out, the vast majority, who wont get a contract, would have been found alternatives.
and It would have showed hibs management if the players were worth, bigger contracts at the end of the season.
The contracts APPARENTLY offered by Hull,Watford or other championship clubs, can’t be matched by hibs.😞
This is we’re scottish football is at the moment.
I’m probably in the minority and a bit old school here but I agree with Hibs offering whatever the standard contract is and not giving them a big lucrative one.
If they have a base contract for all players at that age who haven’t played for the first team then fine.
If we start offering guys like Laidlaw etc big contracts over 4 years etc we could regret that quickly if they don’t live up to the hype. Next thing you know we have 5 players in the same boat every 1-2 seasons.
Give them the normal contract and then it’s on them to prove themselves as competent enough for the first team. If they’re good enough then we give them a new and improved contract to match their contribution like we did with Doig.
None of them have played more than a couple of minutes for us and none started a game.
HIBS NUTS
05-04-2023, 01:19 PM
I’m probably in the minority and a bit old school here but I agree with Hibs offering whatever the standard contract is and not giving them a big lucrative one.
If they have a base contract for all players at that age who haven’t played for the first team then fine.
If we start offering guys like Laidlaw etc big contracts over 4 years etc we could regret that quickly if they don’t live up to the hype. Next thing you know we have 5 players in the same boat every 1-2 seasons.
Give them the normal contract and then it’s on them to prove themselves as competent enough for the first team. If they’re good enough then we give them a new and improved contract to match their contribution like we did with Doig.
None of them have played more than a couple of minutes for us and none started a game.
Agree 100 percent
If you haven’t proved yourself at a decent level, then you can’t expect a enhanced contract at 18. 👍🏻
I’m probably in the minority and a bit old school here but I agree with Hibs offering whatever the standard contract is and not giving them a big lucrative one.
If they have a base contract for all players at that age who haven’t played for the first team then fine.
If we start offering guys like Laidlaw etc big contracts over 4 years etc we could regret that quickly if they don’t live up to the hype. Next thing you know we have 5 players in the same boat every 1-2 seasons.
Give them the normal contract and then it’s on them to prove themselves as competent enough for the first team. If they’re good enough then we give them a new and improved contract to match their contribution like we did with Doig.
None of them have played more than a couple of minutes for us and none started a game.
Is there any suggestions they want more money, or could it be they're seeing no pathway to 1st team football when players like Jair, McKirdy etc are picked ahead of them, I'm all for making young players work hard for their wage increases but surely they have to be given a chance to prove it. Campbell was one who a lot were confused why he got a better deal and was getting regular game time but not showing his full capabilities, he's now the most improved player in the 1st team and a regular starter, we need to give these lads regular 15-20 mins here and there to see what they can do and give them encouragement.
Unseen work
05-04-2023, 02:11 PM
Is there any suggestions they want more money, or could it be they're seeing no pathway to 1st team football when players like Jair, McKirdy etc are picked ahead of them, I'm all for making young players work hard for their wage increases but surely they have to be given a chance to prove it. Campbell was one who a lot were confused why he got a better deal and was getting regular game time but not showing his full capabilities, he's now the most improved player in the 1st team and a regular starter, we need to give these lads regular 15-20 mins here and there to see what they can do and give them encouragement.
I personally don’t know, but a lot of folk on here seem to say Aiken, O’Connor and Laidlaw want to stay but the offer Hibs have gave them isn’t good enough.
I agree to a certain extent was Campbell had been out on loan a couple of time and done well and then had played a decent amount of games in the first team when he got that.
Only now are some of our players going out on loan.
superfurryhibby
05-04-2023, 02:36 PM
LJ and his management team, they sign McKirdy and Jair who are both very poor bur still get ahead of 2 talented ho.e grown players, they've had zero chance to prove themselves.
Maybe LJ feels they are currently more suited to the first team than Laidlaw and O’Connor. I would guess that Johnson sees McKirdy in particular as someone who can still come good, given his goalscoring record and experience?
People are still mentioning that Hibs offer may not have been good enough for Laidlaw, Aitken or O’Connor. I think it’s been mentioned before on this thread, but I believe I’ve read that Hibs offer a standard contract to all laddies being kept on after they pass through the Under 18’s.
The standard contract can no doubt be revised, depending on progress. That for me seems a very reasonable approach to signing on youngsters at that stage of their careers.
I personally don’t know, but a lot of folk on here seem to say Aiken, O’Connor and Laidlaw want to stay but the offer Hibs have gave them isn’t good enough.
I agree to a certain extent was Campbell had been out on loan a couple of time and done well and then had played a decent amount of games in the first team when he got that.
Only now are some of our players going out on loan.
Maybe LJ feels they are currently more suited to the first team than Laidlaw and O’Connor. I would guess that Johnson sees McKirdy in particular as someone who can still come good, given his goalscoring record and experience?
People are still mentioning that Hibs offer may not have been good enough for Laidlaw, Aitken or O’Connor. I think it’s been mentioned before on this thread, but I believe I’ve read that Hibs offer a standard contract to all laddies being kept on after they pass through the Under 18’s.
The standard contract can no doubt be revised, depending on progress. That for me seems a very reasonable approach to signing on youngsters at that stage of their careers.
I do feel the good cup run in Europe didn't help these lads, a good season on loan may have best suited to gain the experience needed, possibly some senior players could help explain that to them and convince them to stay for a while longer but it does seem they've made up their minds and could be away which is a pity.
Unseen work
05-04-2023, 03:55 PM
I do feel the good cup run in Europe didn't help these lads, a good season on loan may have best suited to gain the experience needed, possibly some senior players could help explain that to them and convince them to stay for a while longer but it does seem they've made up their minds and could be away which is a pity.
Agreed, you’d think this is where McGregor in his current role will come in handy.
Surely he along with Gray etc can help convince them.
JimBHibees
06-04-2023, 10:06 AM
They had a great European run this season, I think it’s wrong to say it’s been a wasted season of development.
Agree there was also a very good interview with Gareth Evans. They need to prove they are better.
MikeyS
06-04-2023, 12:43 PM
Agreed, you’d think this is where McGregor in his current role will come in handy.
Surely he along with Gray etc can help convince them.
I'd imagine whatever words of wisdom those pair of legends provide would quickly evaporate as soon as young O'Connor got home and started listening to that balloon of a Dad!
Fanforlife
06-04-2023, 01:50 PM
Heard yesterday reason for Laddie Laidlaw is not signing new deal is due to a fall out with Gaffer.
Brooster
07-04-2023, 09:49 AM
Heard yesterday reason for Laddie Laidlaw is not signing new deal is due to a fall out with Gaffer.
I'd be surprised if LJ even speaks to these highly talented lads, he isn't interested in integrating them in to the first team squad despite some mediocre performances from many in the first team. Laidlaw is hot property and should already be signed up but I'll bet the only contact he's had from anyone about a contract is the bog standard letter they all get offering him an extra £100 a week. Shambolic because this lad is class, seen him about 20 times this season and he gets the better of everyone he plays against at 18s, 19s and Development.
Stairway 2 7
07-04-2023, 10:02 AM
If they were good enough and most importantly ready to play they would. Do people honestly think O'connor doesn't get brought of the bench ahead of others out of spite. The coaching team see the under 18s when they train against men at East mains, it's a world away from playing against skinny 18yo defenders in the youth league.
What they need is a loan in league one. But it looks as though they won't sign the contract that Megwa ect were happy to sign. I wouldn’t start altering youth contracts as each player is a risk
Brooster
07-04-2023, 10:14 AM
I'm not saying Laidlaw is ready, he's only just turned 18 and needs to see a pathway, he can't see that at the moment but he can see Hoppe and McKirdy running around like headless chickens on a Saturday. He's too good to be playing 18s and scores loads at reserve level. There will be dozens of teams looking at him, he will almost certainly say....stuff thus I'm away.
Stairway 2 7
07-04-2023, 10:41 AM
I'm not saying Laidlaw is ready, he's only just turned 18 and needs to see a pathway, he can't see that at the moment but he can see Hoppe and McKirdy running around like headless chickens on a Saturday. He's too good to be playing 18s and scores loads at reserve level. There will be dozens of teams looking at him, he will almost certainly say....stuff thus I'm away.
Well good luck to him it's his choice and career. We mustn't break our youth wage structure. Porto, Doig, Campbell were happy to sign on a what would be a similar contract and half of the 18s too. If they are good enough there is a pathway at Hibs.
We can't compete with English teams who can pay high wages to youths that they know might not make it. So far there have been no players that got away. It will eventually happen but so far so correct
The dalmeny
07-04-2023, 11:34 AM
Heard yesterday reason for Laddie Laidlaw is not signing new deal is due to a fall out with Gaffer.
id also heard he has a bit of an attitude which was tolerated at u18 because he’s a good player but I am going on something I heard from a 3rd party so wouldn’t put my house in it
superfurryhibby
07-04-2023, 12:23 PM
I'd be surprised if LJ even speaks to these highly talented lads, he isn't interested in integrating them in to the first team squad despite some mediocre performances from many in the first team. Laidlaw is hot property and should already be signed up but I'll bet the only contact he's had from anyone about a contract is the bog standard letter they all get offering him an extra £100 a week. Shambolic because this lad is class, seen him about 20 times this season and he gets the better of everyone he plays against at 18s, 19s and Development.
There’s a lot of surmising going on in your post. I would imagine Johnson is available to any player who wants to speak to him. However, the 18’s will have the very experienced Steve Kean and Gareth Evans to discuss career and development.
I would bet they also offered Laidlaw the standard contract, it’s been repeated on this thread numerous times that that’s what Hibs do. It’s an established process and why should it change for anyone ( maybe if we had a young Rooney on our hands and in the first team) ?
I’ve only seen Laidlaw play twice, in the European ties. He looked pretty decent, but perhaps not fully fit v Dortmund ( he ran out of steam after 60 minutes). He’s clearly got something, but he’s deluding himself if he think his career is best served away from Hibs.
Brooster
07-04-2023, 12:34 PM
There’s a lot of surmising going on in your post. I would imagine Johnson is available to any player who wants to speak to him. However, the 18’s will have the very experienced Steve Kean and Gareth Evans to discuss career and development.
I would bet they also offered Laidlaw the standard contract, it’s been repeated on this thread numerous times that that’s what Hibs do. It’s an established process and why should it change for anyone ( maybe if we had a young Rooney on our hands and in the first team) ?
I’ve only seen Laidlaw play twice, in the European ties. He looked pretty decent, but perhaps not fully fit v Dortmund ( he ran out of steam after 60 minutes). He’s clearly got something, but he’s deluding himself if he think his career is best served away from Hibs.
Not surmising mate but I respect your opinions.
Fanforlife
07-04-2023, 01:28 PM
I'd be surprised if LJ even speaks to these highly talented lads, he isn't interested in integrating them in to the first team squad despite some mediocre performances from many in the first team. Laidlaw is hot property and should already be signed up but I'll bet the only contact he's had from anyone about a contract is the bog standard letter they all get offering him an extra £100 a week. Shambolic because this lad is class, seen him about 20 times this season and he gets the better of everyone he plays against at 18s, 19s and Development.information i got came from a couple of under 18 hibs players, up to you to make of it what you will,certainly no skin of my nose as was just passing on what ive been told.
Up-the-slope
07-04-2023, 01:50 PM
It looks a certainty. Hibs aren't a great club to be at if you are a young player looking for opportunities. There's loads of SPL clubs will give youth a chance but we aren't one of them. Obviously down to the management in place and might change if Johnson goes (which he should if we finish bottom 6)
Thats just not true though ... Doig was first team regular younger than them... Its about being good enough and better than player in posession of jersey no matter what level your playing at
The Modfather
07-04-2023, 03:11 PM
Thats just not true though ... Doig was first team regular younger than them... Its about being good enough and better than player in posession of jersey no matter what level your playing at
Ross County, Motherwell (x2), Rangers, Aberdeen & Dundee Utd have all gave game time to 16 year olds this season. Killmarnock, St Mirren & Celtc have all gave game time to 17 year olds. Killmarnock (x3), Motherwell, Hearts, St Mirren (x2), Rangers (x2), Aberdeen & Dundee United have all gave time to 18 year olds.
We have gave game time to Macintyre (13 minutes) and O’Connor (25 minutes) this season.
Are the 16/17/18 year olds at other clubs better than the players they are getting time ahead of? Or is it harder to get a pathway into the first team at Hibs than it is at essentially all other clubs in our league? Despite us having a more successful U19 team.
It is also possible that the U19s aren’t actually as good as they appear, they have had success but possibly because the other youth teams have already promoted their talents. Much like we were bottom of the youth league when the golden generation came through, despite having the best youth team in the country by a considerable distance, because they were all in the first team.
Golden Bear
07-04-2023, 03:20 PM
Ross County, Motherwell (x2), Rangers, Aberdeen & Dundee Utd have all gave game time to 16 year olds this season. Killmarnock, St Mirren & Celtc have all gave game time to 17 year olds. Killmarnock (x3), Motherwell, Hearts, St Mirren (x2), Rangers (x2), Aberdeen & Dundee United have all gave time to 18 year olds.
We have gave game time to Macintyre (13 minutes) and O’Connor (25 minutes) this season.
Are the 16/17/18 year olds at other clubs better than the players they are getting time ahead of? Or is it harder to get a pathway into the first team at Hibs than it is at essentially all other clubs in our league? Despite us having a more successful U19 team.
It is also possible that the U19s aren’t actually as good as they appear, they have had success but possibly because the other youth teams have already promoted their talents. Much like we were bottom of the youth league when the golden generation came through, despite having the best youth team in the country by a considerable distance, because they were all in the first team.
Great post.
👍
Brooster
07-04-2023, 04:41 PM
information i got came from a couple of under 18 hibs players, up to you to make of it what you will,certainly no skin of my nose as was just passing on what ive been told.
Depends who they refer to as the gaffer I suppose.
superfurryhibby
07-04-2023, 05:29 PM
Not surmising mate but I respect your opinions.
I would accept that LJ may not be speaking directly to under 18 players on a daily or regular basis. That’s the job of the guys employed to manage and coach players at that level and Hibs first team management are probably no different from any other team in that respect.
I very much imagine that LJ is keen on players breaking through to the first team, if they are good enough why wouldn’t he be?
The Modfather
07-04-2023, 05:38 PM
I would accept that LJ may not be speaking directly to under 18 players on a daily or regular basis. That’s the job of the guys employed to manage and coach players at that level and Hibs first team management are probably no different from any other team in that respect.
I very much imagine that LJ is keen on players breaking through to the first team, if they are good enough why wouldn’t he be?
Because few youngsters are first team ready from the get go. They need integrated and the short term pain persisted with. Unless that’s the managers remit there’s little incentive for a manager to take the short term hit when the benefits of doing so will likely not be realised until under the next manager.
Stairway 2 7
07-04-2023, 06:03 PM
Because few youngsters are first team ready from the get go. They need integrated and the short term pain persisted with. Unless that’s the managers remit there’s little incentive for a manager to take the short term hit when the benefits of doing so will likely not be realised until under the next manager.
They almost always prove themselves on loan against adults first. About 3 or 4 lads have signed a new contract in the 18s recently and have went out on loan. I'm sure if Laidlaw signed he'd be loaned out, if he banged them in against adults it would be in the first team next.
People were saying it was a mistake to let Connor Young go to rangers, he has went on loan to east Fife and has played a handful of minutes in his 6 games. The step up to adult football is massive
Golden Bear
07-04-2023, 06:11 PM
They almost always prove themselves on loan against adults first. About 3 or 4 lads have signed a new contract in the 18s recently and have went out on loan. I'm sure if Laidlaw signed he'd be loaned out, if he banged them in against adults it would be in the first team next.
People were saying it was a mistake to let Connor Young go to rangers, he has went on loan to east Fife and has played a handful of minutes in his 6 games. The step up to adult football is massive
I agree with your last sentence but the Club will never know unless the youngsters are given their chance to prove themselves or otherwise. The signing of journeymen pros or unproven youngsters from elsewhere is certainly not the answer in my opinion.
Unseen work
07-04-2023, 06:17 PM
I agree with your last sentence but the Club will never know unless the youngsters are given their chance to prove themselves or otherwise. The signing of journeymen pros or unproven youngsters from elsewhere is certainly not the answer in my opinion.
I can only imagine they’re not quite showing they’re ready in training.
The dalmeny
07-04-2023, 07:35 PM
People were saying it was a mistake to let Connor Young go to rangers, he has went on loan to east Fife and has played a handful of minutes in his 6 games. The step up to adult football is massive
Young went on loan at a odd time in the season, into a team that’s established and he won’t be with next season. That could well affect how the manager will use him.
As for the step up to mens football being massive, maybe different is more appropriate. Loads of boys from other PL teams on loan to teams and getting variable amount of time. Loads of boys who would still be eligible playing u20 playing in tier 5 & 6 for their ‘adult’ club
Stairway 2 7
07-04-2023, 07:48 PM
Young went on loan at a odd time in the season, into a team that’s established and he won’t be with next season. That could well affect how the manager will use him.
As for the step up to mens football being massive, maybe different is more appropriate. Loads of boys from other PL teams on loan to teams and getting variable amount of time. Loads of boys who would still be eligible playing u20 playing in tier 5 & 6 for their ‘adult’ club
Youngs done poorly in the lowland league and has been told he can leave at the end of the season. The step up is massive at the top hence 95% of spl youngsters won't make it in spl.
Going on loan to a lower league club should be the next step for Laidlaw and O'connor, if the did well there then after that it's seeing if they can go a step up to spl. I hope they don't expect to skip a stage and go straight to prem football, but with Gary advising his lad I'm doubtful
The dalmeny
07-04-2023, 08:03 PM
Going on loan to a lower league club should be the next step for Laidlaw and O'connor, if the did well there then after that it's seeing if they can go a step up to spl. I hope they don't expect to skip a stage and go straight to prem football, but with Gary advising his lad I'm doubtful
Agreed, next season they should be looking at league 1 at least, on loan from the start of the season too. I’m not too familiar with how we train, if the first team squad, dev team and u18s all train separately or if there’s some overlap.
No a fan of the b team set up (recognise that’s not us) you may be playing in an adult league but you are just playing in an age group team, youngsters need to get exposure to dealing with experienced players so they can get used to taking it and dishing it out when appropriate.
Stairway 2 7
07-04-2023, 08:06 PM
Agreed, next season they should be looking at league 1 at least, on loan from the start of the season too. I’m not too familiar with how we train, if the first team squad, dev team and u18s all train separately or if there’s some overlap.
No a fan of the b team set up (recognise that’s not us) you may be playing in an adult league but you are just playing in an age group team, youngsters need to get exposure to dealing with experienced players so they can get used to taking it and dishing it out when appropriate.
Agreed the old reserve league was great. Playing with good pros and top players coming back from injury. There's definitely something missing as the b teams playing against poor teams isn't the answer as you say
The dalmeny
07-04-2023, 08:16 PM
Agreed the old reserve league was great. Playing with good pros and top players coming back from injury. There's definitely something missing as the b teams playing against poor teams isn't the answer as you say
lmo a proper res league is the way forward. I went to a match at the start of the season at HTC and out team included McGregor and Stevenson, some guys just up from u18 and a few new signings, getting experience from different boys with different backgrounds doesn’t happen the same in a b team
Tambo
07-04-2023, 08:56 PM
Hibs U18s lost 3-1 to Rangers U18s in Glasgow this afternoon in the CAS Elite U18 League; Ethan Laidlaw on target for Hibs who played the final 20 mins with ten men after Jacob MacIntyre was sent off for two bookings.
Not sure how many minutes he got for the devs the other day but not starting and coming on for the final 20 minutes could mean he could be involved Sunday, unless I'm thinking to much into it.
Could just be a case of don't want to overburn him with two games in a week which hopefully turns into a final 20 minutes cameo Sunday 😀
CapitalGreen
07-04-2023, 09:18 PM
Hibs U18s lost 3-1 to Rangers U18s in Glasgow this afternoon in the CAS Elite U18 League; Ethan Laidlaw on target for Hibs who played the final 20 mins with ten men after Jacob MacIntyre was sent off for two bookings.
Not sure how many minutes he got for the devs the other day but not starting and coming on for the final 20 minutes could mean he could be involved Sunday, unless I'm thinking to much into it.
Could just be a case of don't want to overburn him with two games in a week which hopefully turns into a final 20 minutes cameo Sunday 😀
I think you’ve misread that. It means that “[Hibs] played the final 20 minutes with 10 men” not that Laidlaw played the final 20 minutes.
Donegal Hibby
08-04-2023, 08:55 AM
Hibs development team play Newcastle United under 23 team on Easter Monday.
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/dev-squad-to-face-newcastle-united-u23
Tambo
08-04-2023, 09:25 AM
I think you’ve misread that. It means that “[Hibs] played the final 20 minutes with 10 men” not that Laidlaw played the final 20 minutes.
Ffs long day yesterday for me, thanks for clearing up my mistake.
cabbageandribs1875
10-04-2023, 01:42 PM
1-1 was the latest i could see but that was an hour ago :greengrin
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number9dream
10-04-2023, 01:59 PM
Is it not rather odd that Devlin hasn't had a run at this level? And yet he's on the first team bench ahead of McClelland, who must at least be fit if not an obvious upgrade on what we have.
I see Megwa has helped Kelty keep three clean sheets in a row - Falkirk & Dunfermline in that run - which sounds promising for his development.
Wheat Hound
10-04-2023, 02:12 PM
Is it not rather odd that Devlin hasn't had a run at this level? And yet he's on the first team bench ahead of McClelland, who must at least be fit if not an obvious upgrade on what we have.
I see Megwa has helped Kelty keep three clean sheets in a row - Falkirk & Dunfermline in that run - which sounds promising for his development.
Just one of several selections that make no sense.
Brooster
10-04-2023, 02:14 PM
3-1 to Hibs. Thoroughly deserved.
Www1875hfc
10-04-2023, 02:15 PM
Delferriere hat trick .
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KeithTheHibby
10-04-2023, 02:18 PM
Delferriere hat trick .
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Yet can’t get a sniff of first team action. Not the first time this guy has impressed.
Decisions like this are on the manager, simple as.
Brooster
10-04-2023, 02:18 PM
Delferriere hat trick .
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A header, a free kick and a penalty. He was the standout player.
Billy Whizz
10-04-2023, 02:19 PM
A header, a free kick and a penalty. He was the standout player.
Was LJ at the game
Stuart93
10-04-2023, 02:22 PM
Mental that he’s not getting a chance.
Canny he really be much worse than jeggo?
eastmainsmsh
10-04-2023, 02:24 PM
Unbelievable Laidlaw isn't getting a chance
Torto7
10-04-2023, 02:39 PM
What position did Delfierre play? I'm still scratching my head over Cadden being our starting RB in a back 4 and Miller who was decent against Celtic doesnt seem to interest our manager, any chance Delfierre or Megwa get a shot?
Brooster
10-04-2023, 03:06 PM
Delferriere played centre mid. I didn't see LJ.
Torto7
10-04-2023, 03:11 PM
Delferriere played centre mid. I didn't see LJ.
Thanks. Probably his day off.
Thanks. Probably his day off.
He doesn't deserve a day off after that rubbish yesterday.
Ringothedog
10-04-2023, 03:25 PM
Thanks. Probably his day off.
He has a day off every day of the week going by his tactics and team selections
HIBS NUTS
10-04-2023, 03:29 PM
What position did Delfierre play? I'm still scratching my head over Cadden being our starting RB in a back 4 and Miller who was decent against Celtic doesnt seem to interest our manager, any chance Delfierre or Megwa get a shot?
MEGWA plays for kelty hearts, till the end of the season, so can’t play for hibs.
HIBS NUTS
10-04-2023, 03:34 PM
I actually like the attitude of alan delferriere, but he’s been really inconsistent, sometimes excellent, like today, sometimes really poor.
He came with a decent pedigree, and i think he got a couple of years contract.
I may be wrong about that.
Fanforlife
10-04-2023, 03:38 PM
Depends who they refer to as the gaffer I suppose.
Was LJ they were referring to!
Unseen work
10-04-2023, 03:39 PM
I actually like the attitude of alan delferriere, but he’s been really inconsistent, sometimes excellent, like today, sometimes really poor.
He came with a decent pedigree, and i think he got a couple of years contract.
I may be wrong about that.
It’s a bit weird that someone who has played for Liege and MVV at the age of 19 has hardly had a sniff for us.
He’s very athletic, aggressive and good on the ball. Think he’d slot in well for us and wouldn’t look out of place IF he had a settled team. Could probably do a similar role to Egan Riley imo.
King conrad
10-04-2023, 03:45 PM
It’s a bit weird that someone who has played for Liege and MVV at the age of 19 has hardly had a sniff for us.
He’s very athletic, aggressive and good on the ball. Think he’d slot in well for us and wouldn’t look out of place IF he had a settled team. Could probably do a similar role to Egan Riley imo.
He's 21 now, You'd think he would have got a chance by now
HIBS NUTS
10-04-2023, 03:47 PM
It’s a bit weird that someone who has played for Liege and MVV at the age of 19 has hardly had a sniff for us.
He’s very athletic, aggressive and good on the ball. Think he’d slot in well for us and wouldn’t look out of place IF he had a settled team. Could probably do a similar role to Egan Riley imo.
I have a pal in the netherlands, he’s a big fan of MVV, he said he was great for them, i’m sure he played right back.
JohnM1875
10-04-2023, 03:49 PM
I have a pal in the netherlands, he’s a big fan of MVV, he said he was great for them, i’m sure he played right back.
I've liked the look of him any time I've seen him play. Addmitedly only a few times, but he can't be any worse than what we have right now.
Unseen work
10-04-2023, 03:50 PM
He's 21 now, You'd think he would have got a chance by now
Was meaning he was playing for them at the age of 19
cameronw-hfc
10-04-2023, 03:57 PM
Have a look a Laidlaws twitter likes.. tells quite the story.
HIBS NUTS
10-04-2023, 04:00 PM
Was meaning he was playing for them at the age of 19
Apparently he didn’t set the heather on fire, at FC EDINBURGH.
Mabye he just needs time .
The Modfather
10-04-2023, 04:06 PM
Have a look a Laidlaws twitter likes.. tells quite the story.
For us luddites, what has he been liking?
cameronw-hfc
10-04-2023, 04:11 PM
For us luddites, what has he been liking?
'How does @ethanlaidlaw05 not get in the first team squad but somehow the frauds who played yesterday do.'
A post calling Lee out for asking the fans to stay behind the team, a post about Jeggo passing like a 60yo and Mckirdy not good enough and Cadden one good cross a season
Another one about someone joking as to how Mckirdy plays ahead of him
A post about hibs mucking him about
'Criminal the club are letting this kid go'
A post saying O' Connor isn't good enough bu5 Ethan is.
The ones without swearing I've copy and pasted, ones with swears I've just explained.
Personally I don't like this. Too many posts insulting his team mates he's liked, and these are all within the last 4 days btw, not gone back further.
If I'm his manager/coach/teammate and he's liking posts slating other coaches/teammates he wouldn't be anywhere near my team, that's for sure, regardless of how good he might
Gone back further and he's liked posts about Marshall being awful etc. I get he's a Hibby, and he's young but you can't be doing that.
The Modfather
10-04-2023, 04:22 PM
'How does @ethanlaidlaw05 not get in the first team squad but somehow the frauds who played yesterday do.'
A post calling Lee out for asking the fans to stay behind the team, a post about Jeggo passing like a 60yo and Mckirdy not good enough and Cadden one good cross a season
Another one about someone joking as to how Mckirdy plays ahead of him
A post about hibs mucking him about
'Criminal the club are letting this kid go'
A post saying O' Connor isn't good enough bu5 Ethan is.
The ones without swearing I've copy and pasted, ones with swears I've just explained.
Personally I don't like this. Too many posts insulting his team mates he's liked, and these are all within the last 4 days btw, not gone back further.
If I'm his manager/coach/teammate and he's liking posts slating other coaches/teammates he wouldn't be anywhere near my team, that's for sure, regardless of how good he might
Gone back further and he's liked posts about Marshall being awful etc. I get he's a Hibby, and he's young but you can't be doing that.
He’s probably stopped caring given it appears no matter what he does he won’t get a chance at Hibs. It’s immature and poor to like some of that stuff, but on the other hand Hibs don’t appear to want to develop him or bring him through.
cameronw-hfc
10-04-2023, 04:24 PM
He’s probably stopped caring given it appears no matter what he does he won’t get a chance at Hibs. It’s immature and poor to like some of that stuff, but on the other hand Hibs don’t appear to want to develop him or bring him through.
I get he's young and immature and probably stopped caring but if I'm his teammate and he's doing that, I'm fuming.
JohnM1875
10-04-2023, 04:25 PM
'How does @ethanlaidlaw05 not get in the first team squad but somehow the frauds who played yesterday do.'
A post calling Lee out for asking the fans to stay behind the team, a post about Jeggo passing like a 60yo and Mckirdy not good enough and Cadden one good cross a season
Another one about someone joking as to how Mckirdy plays ahead of him
A post about hibs mucking him about
'Criminal the club are letting this kid go'
A post saying O' Connor isn't good enough bu5 Ethan is.
The ones without swearing I've copy and pasted, ones with swears I've just explained.
Personally I don't like this. Too many posts insulting his team mates he's liked, and these are all within the last 4 days btw, not gone back further.
If I'm his manager/coach/teammate and he's liking posts slating other coaches/teammates he wouldn't be anywhere near my team, that's for sure, regardless of how good he might
Gone back further and he's liked posts about Marshall being awful etc. I get he's a Hibby, and he's young but you can't be doing that.
Then he should be nowhere near the team.
Stairway 2 7
10-04-2023, 04:26 PM
'How does @ethanlaidlaw05 not get in the first team squad but somehow the frauds who played yesterday do.'
A post calling Lee out for asking the fans to stay behind the team, a post about Jeggo passing like a 60yo and Mckirdy not good enough and Cadden one good cross a season
Another one about someone joking as to how Mckirdy plays ahead of him
A post about hibs mucking him about
'Criminal the club are letting this kid go'
A post saying O' Connor isn't good enough bu5 Ethan is.
The ones without swearing I've copy and pasted, ones with swears I've just explained.
Personally I don't like this. Too many posts insulting his team mates he's liked, and these are all within the last 4 days btw, not gone back further.
If I'm his manager/coach/teammate and he's liking posts slating other coaches/teammates he wouldn't be anywhere near my team, that's for sure, regardless of how good he might
Gone back further and he's liked posts about Marshall being awful etc. I get he's a Hibby, and he's young but you can't be doing that.
Just looked at them. What an else he knows people can see them. Liking posts slating the keeper ect is unprofessional, I can understand the ones saying he should get a game but not the rest
BILLYHIBS
10-04-2023, 04:27 PM
Liked the guy a lot versus Dortmund but if that is his mindset needs to wise up and grow up pronto
It’s a no from me
Close the door on the way out
King conrad
10-04-2023, 04:30 PM
Then he should be nowhere near the team.
Excactly! Obviously rates himself.
JimBHibees
10-04-2023, 04:31 PM
'How does @ethanlaidlaw05 not get in the first team squad but somehow the frauds who played yesterday do.'
A post calling Lee out for asking the fans to stay behind the team, a post about Jeggo passing like a 60yo and Mckirdy not good enough and Cadden one good cross a season
Another one about someone joking as to how Mckirdy plays ahead of him
A post about hibs mucking him about
'Criminal the club are letting this kid go'
A post saying O' Connor isn't good enough bu5 Ethan is.
The ones without swearing I've copy and pasted, ones with swears I've just explained.
Personally I don't like this. Too many posts insulting his team mates he's liked, and these are all within the last 4 days btw, not gone back further.
If I'm his manager/coach/teammate and he's liking posts slating other coaches/teammates he wouldn't be anywhere near my team, that's for sure, regardless of how good he might
Gone back further and he's liked posts about Marshall being awful etc. I get he's a Hibby, and he's young but you can't be doing that.
Seems incredibly immature if correct.
HIBS NUTS
10-04-2023, 04:42 PM
He’s a young lad, let’s not go over board on what he likes, or posts on twitter.
The first bit of advice any young player should get , is to not get wrapped up social media.
Nothing good comes of it.
eastmainsmsh
10-04-2023, 04:42 PM
Give Laidlaw and O Connor and other promising youngsters a place on the bench at least what's the point on bringing others from foreign academy's who can't cut it when we have better in our own if not then what is the point 🤔
HIBS NUTS
10-04-2023, 04:43 PM
he’s just turned 18.
It’s not exactly setting cars on fire, or taking drugs. 😕
Donegal Hibby
10-04-2023, 04:58 PM
Good win for Hibs .
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/report-dev-squad-3-1-newcastle-united-u23
offshorehibby
10-04-2023, 05:41 PM
Not wanting to slate anybody above but how many times do we have to go round and round the the Laidlaw O'Conner thing. They have stated that they don't want to sign the contracts offered, so why do we need to give them game time for the first team when they're binning us.
If it's true about all the likes to comments about his team mates then he sounds like a bit of a nob.
He's going to disappear down to some no mark English club and and get lost.
They youngsters that have signed the new contracts are all out on loan now most gaining valuable experience.
LewysGot2
10-04-2023, 05:58 PM
Sad if that actually is Laidlaw liking those things. Needs to wise up - pretty sure the players get advice on social media use so there's no excuse. Looks petulant and disrespectful- yes Marshall is a worry especially late but he deserves a bit of respect in public from a fellow employee who's career is currently still one of potential. I mind another young prospect from down his way - laddie called Matthew Knox - linked with Man U, Liverpool the lot. Down for trials. Being touted as the next big thing. Career never got going and, after a short stint at Livi, declined. Laidlaw has no guarantees- does look like maybe been listening to some poor advice.
Just spoke to one of my mates who was at the game today. Singled out Megwa, Malik, Allan and a young lad called McGregor for praise. Said McIntyre struggled to start with but grew into a game. Also said keepers distribution was a concern. Kept slicing his goalkicks out of the park.
Boyler was seemingly at the game watching 👍
There's about 5 Ethan Laidlaw twitter accounts.
There's 2 that seem to be his and followed by HIbs.net and Hibernian, one is an older account that hasn't been posted on in a couple of years, the other is a newer account used regularly.
cameronw-hfc
10-04-2023, 06:43 PM
There's about 5 Ethan Laidlaw twitter accounts.
There's 2 that seem to be his and followed by HIbs.net and Hibernian, one is an older account that hasn't been posted on in a couple of years, the other is a newer account used regularly.
The account I'm talking about is his account. It's followed by other players in the youth team and the likes of Kev Harper etc.
Unseen work
10-04-2023, 08:04 PM
Embarassing from Laidlaw.
Like tweets about getting a chance etc is fine, but the ones where people are calling your teammates frauds etc is very poor.
He’s done nothing to prove he can play at this level so should be more respectful of his teammates
cabbageandribs1875
10-04-2023, 08:10 PM
tbf he's just a young laddie
a frustrated young laddie
Smartie
10-04-2023, 08:21 PM
He’s a young lad, let’s not go over board on what he likes, or posts on twitter.
The first bit of advice any young player should get , is to not get wrapped up social media.
Nothing good comes of it.
That's advice he will no doubt have received many times, and he's chosen to ignore it.
I have sympathy for Hibs if they've decided the boy is a dafty. It's not like we couldn't do with a handy young player breaking through.
Smartie
10-04-2023, 08:25 PM
tbf he's just a young laddie
a frustrated young laddie
There's a way to channel frustration, and he's risking causing himself unnecessary harm.
cabbageandribs1875
10-04-2023, 08:32 PM
There's a way to channel frustration, and he's risking causing himself unnecessary harm.
i know i know, i always stuck up for jason cummings as well through his immature/radge years, we all mature at different ages, learning what's wrong and what's not, the guys probably so frustrated at not getting his chance and even worse for the team he supports at that
cameronw-hfc
10-04-2023, 08:37 PM
i know i know, i always stuck up for jason cummings as well through his immature/radge years, we all mature at different ages, learning what's wrong and what's not, the guys probably so frustrated at not getting his chance and even worse for the team he supports at that
I'm not meaning to keep piling on as he's a kid but there's a difference between being a bit mental like Jason and liking posts slating teammates and coaches.
I'm currently making one of the 9 year olds I coach sit out at times due to harmful and poor comments during training, can't have players, even at 18 liking similar tweets. It's something someone should be speaking to him about and making sure he goes down and cleans up his page a little. He might only be a youth player but he's one of the most well known and highly thought of we have had in some time, so more eyes on him
The Modfather
10-04-2023, 08:38 PM
That's advice he will no doubt have received many times, and he's chosen to ignore it.
I have sympathy for Hibs if they've decided the boy is a dafty. It's not like we couldn't do with a handy young player breaking through.
What’s the deal with O’Connor? He was getting 10 minutes at the end of games, won a penalty against Aberdeen, then struggled to make the bench. To put the likes of Laidlaw’s apparent frustrations into context Bojang has played more minutes than all the U19s combined this season.
cabbageandribs1875
10-04-2023, 08:46 PM
I'm not meaning to keep piling on as he's a kid but there's a difference between being a bit mental like Jason and liking posts slating teammates and coaches.
I'm currently making one of the 9 year olds I coach sit out at times due to harmful and poor comments during training, can't have players, even at 18 liking similar tweets. It's something someone should be speaking to him about and making sure he goes down and cleans up his page a little. He might only be a youth player but he's one of the most well known and highly thought of we have had in some time, so more eyes on him
hopefully he realises when he's several years older, less frustrated and more settled in his chosen career:agree:
Smartie
10-04-2023, 08:57 PM
hopefully he realises when he's several years older, less frustrated and more settled in his chosen career:agree:
The problem is, it’s tough for every young footballer. If he’s not careful he might not make it that far irrespective of how much talent he’s got.
He’s done nothing in the game and I’d expect any prospective new clubs to be asking questions and needing decent answers from a young player inferring criticism of senior team mates and his manager in social media.
You can behave like a fanny when you’re peak Cristiano Ronaldo, or when you have a decent bit of credit in the bank.
500miles
10-04-2023, 10:38 PM
If Laidlaw actually wants to stay and play for Hibs, it must be an absolute slap in the face to see guys like McKirdy, Jair and Hauge get good money and opportunities he's getting nowhere near.
If he's already got a move lined up, he shouldn't even be playing 18s.
cabbageandribs1875
10-04-2023, 10:49 PM
The problem is, it’s tough for every young footballer. If he’s not careful he might not make it that far irrespective of how much talent he’s got.
He’s done nothing in the game and I’d expect any prospective new clubs to be asking questions and needing decent answers from a young player inferring criticism of senior team mates and his manager in social media.
You can behave like a fanny when you’re peak Cristiano Ronaldo, or when you have a decent bit of credit in the bank.
true, as for the second part if the boys got talent prospective employers won't give a hang about his previous social media posts/likes/dislikes whatever, if he's got talent then all they will be concerned about is pennies in the bank further down the line, i'm sure it's something he will think about in the future, was it Laidlaw that's been for trials at Liverpool, and some other 'big' club down south i can't remember which other one, would be curious to find out why he was returned without any possibility of a deal, did they not think he was as talented as he, and those that watch him think he is, or some other reason/s.
LewysGot2
10-04-2023, 10:58 PM
Notice,on doing a wee search, the 2 not signed up again are the only 2 players with FA Sports as their agency...their portfolio has Seigrist of Celtic as the only "name" from SPL of note - and he's not a first team regular.
PHeffernan
11-04-2023, 12:17 AM
Notice,on doing a wee search, the 2 not signed up again are the only 2 players with FA Sports as their agency...their portfolio has Seigrist of Celtic as the only "name" from SPL of note - and he's not a first team regular.
There are 3 not signed up
All 3 played against Newcastle
Greenbeard
11-04-2023, 07:22 AM
he’s just turned 18.
It’s not exactly setting cars on fire, or taking drugs. 😕
He's employed by Hibs. As a contracted player there is an expected standard of behaviour. I fully expect there is reference to social media in the players' contracts.
If you are employed by Greenbeard The Bakers as an apprentice baker but on social media you publicly like criticisms of me, my company, my senior bakers and my donuts, you are going to be disciplined. And your young age is not an excuse. It might be a mitigating factor when it comes to disciplinary sanction but it doesn't get the matter swept aside and for sure you are going to be on a very shoogly peg as far as your future employment is concerned, whether with my bakers or any other baker.
CapitalGreen
11-04-2023, 07:47 AM
If Laidlaw actually wants to stay and play for Hibs, it must be an absolute slap in the face to see guys like McKirdy, Jair and Hauge get good money and opportunities he's getting nowhere near.
If he's already got a move lined up, he shouldn't even be playing 18s.
Aye must be tough for him being the only 18 year old in world football to be played less and paid less than players older than him.
Jones28
11-04-2023, 07:52 AM
If Laidlaw actually wants to stay and play for Hibs, it must be an absolute slap in the face to see guys like McKirdy, Jair and Hauge get good money and opportunities he's getting nowhere near.
If he's already got a move lined up, he shouldn't even be playing 18s.
Surely if he wanted to stay he’d have signed a new deal by now?
Looks like he’s moving anyway, but that’s poor from him. 18 or not, liking tweets criticising team mates is just idiotic. Someone mentioned an attitude problem a few weeks ago - maybe this is being displayed in front of us?
DaveF
11-04-2023, 08:34 AM
The tweets and likes thing is just immature nonsense and does nothing but paint the laddie in a bad light.
His next club, whoever that may be, would do well to make sure he puts the phone down for a while.
Alfred E Newman
11-04-2023, 08:50 AM
Surely if he wanted to stay he’d have signed a new deal by now?
Looks like he’s moving anyway, but that’s poor from him. 18 or not, liking tweets criticising team mates is just idiotic. Someone mentioned an attitude problem a few weeks ago - maybe this is being displayed in front of us?
We don't know what deal he has been offered. I know others in the squad are turning down contract offers that are derisory, minimum wage stuff.
Stairway 2 7
11-04-2023, 08:59 AM
We don't know what deal he has been offered. I know others in the squad are turning down contract offers that are derisory, minimum wage stuff.
It'll be the standard contract we offer 18 year olds that haven't been starting games. The one Megwa, Johnson, Blaney ect have just signed, the ones porto and Doig were happy to sign.
It changes once you start playing first team football, but generally before that you would need to do it on loan in adult football. Connor Young was banging them in last season and people were saying he should be getting time on the first team and its a mistake to let him go. He's not done it in lowland league and hasn't started in his 6 games at league 2 east Fife.
We shouldn't alter our wage structure on potential. Laidlaw looks a cracking player but he can sign contract knuckle down on loan, or go and try elsewhere, that's it
Jones28
11-04-2023, 09:02 AM
We don't know what deal he has been offered. I know others in the squad are turning down contract offers that are derisory, minimum wage stuff.
I don’t know so couldn’t comment.
Laidlaw has been courted by clubs down south for 2/3 years at this stage in any case.
I’d have loved him to stay and play for Hibs. Something that Johnson was lauded for at his old clubs was developing young players, we’ve seen very little of that so far.
superfurryhibby
11-04-2023, 09:02 AM
We don't know what deal he has been offered. I know others in the squad are turning down contract offers that are derisory, minimum wage stuff.
For about the millionth time. They are all offered the same contract once their two year initial deal expires. I would guess most on here agree with that principle.
Many people, not just 18 year olds, work for minimum wages. In that respect Hibs are no different from lots of employers ( although most people won’t get a signing on fee or the lure of pay increases based on performance).
If they can find better elsewhere, good luck to them. I would guess that the money offered at Hibs is as good as any other side in Scottish football.
I’ve never noticed a huge exodus of young players from ER who are seeking a better deal elsewhere. The one that springs to mind (Conor Young) has found their career on a downhill trajectory since he left for the “big money”.
I’m wondering who else will be leaving, aside from Laidlaw, O’Connor and Aitken? Those are the names regularly mentioned on here.
The dalmeny
11-04-2023, 10:21 AM
I’ve never noticed a huge exodus of young players from ER who are seeking a better deal elsewhere. The one that springs to mind (Conor Young) has found their career on a downhill trajectory since he left for the “big money”.
re.
Hibs didn't offer him a new contract so he had no option but to move
DaveF
11-04-2023, 10:32 AM
Hibs didn't offer him a new contract so he had no option but to move
We got a five figure transfer fee for him. Turned out ok in the end for us I'd say.
CapitalGreen
11-04-2023, 10:40 AM
Hibs didn't offer him a new contract so he had no option but to move
He still had 1 year remaining on his contract when he moved.
Donegal Hibby
11-04-2023, 04:22 PM
More under-23's games lined up .
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-line-up-games-against-newcastle-united-middlesbrough-and-everton-4099686
Donegal Hibby
11-04-2023, 10:10 PM
Highlights here of the Newcastle United game for anyone that didn't see them . Think we have a new freekick specialist :greengrin .
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/highlights-hibs-dev-squad-3-1-newcastle-united
Highlights here of the Newcastle United game for anyone that didn't see them . Think we have a new freekick specialist :greengrin .
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/highlights-hibs-dev-squad-3-1-newcastle-united
Delferriere won't be given a chance under Johnson, clearly the lad has talent but isn't even on the bench as an option come game day.
Jones28
12-04-2023, 06:26 AM
Delferriere won't be given a chance under Johnson, clearly the lad has talent but isn't even on the bench as an option come game day.
He’s one I really find baffling. Came in to the team in pre season and did well, looked the part and played iirc as a right back and centre mid - maybe even in the same match but I can’t be certain.
Then disappears on loan and we have now signed 3 players who can play in a defensive midfield role (CJ, Jeggo and Kenneh) and also signed Miller as a right back. I’m not saying that he could have filled both roles, or either role, entirely but for all his plaudits for promoting youngsters I don’t get why he hasn’t had even a sniff of a first team appearance.
He’s one I really find baffling. Came in to the team in pre season and did well, looked the part and played iirc as a right back and centre mid - maybe even in the same match but I can’t be certain.
Then disappears on loan and we have now signed 3 players who can play in a defensive midfield role (CJ, Jeggo and Kenneh) and also signed Miller as a right back. I’m not saying that he could have filled both roles, or either role, entirely but for all his plaudits for promoting youngsters I don’t get why he hasn’t had even a sniff of a first team appearance.
Season 21-22 he played 5 games for Standard Liege and 10 ganes on loan for MVV, so has played at a decent standard.
Stairway 2 7
12-04-2023, 08:12 AM
How did he do at Edinburgh, never heard much
superfurryhibby
12-04-2023, 08:36 AM
Delferriere won't be given a chance under Johnson, clearly the lad has talent but isn't even on the bench as an option come game day.
Why is that the case (when did Delferriere return from injury) ? It strikes me as bizarre that we have players that could contribute but are wilfully being omitted from the squad (laidlaw aside, that I get)
How did he do at Edinburgh, never heard much
Was seemingly a stand out then injured but he looked better than that level, only going by reports.
HIBS NUTS
12-04-2023, 02:29 PM
Was seemingly a stand out then injured but he looked better than that level, only going by reports.
he got sent back from FC EDINBURGH, with the other 2, because they didn’t see him as being part of the team.
Hibs said that the 3 came back for development, one was sent back to america, one went to queen of the south permanently. Allan has played most of the development games since, and been inconsistent but mostly fine.
He didn’t get sent back because he was better than that level.
He definitely appears to be improving, and he’s got a good attitude.
he got sent back from FC EDINBURGH, with the other 2, because they didn’t see him as being part of the team.
Hibs said that the 3 came back for development, one was sent back to america, one went to queen of the south permanently. Allan has played most of the development games since, and been inconsistent but mostly fine.
He didn’t get sent back because he was better than that level.
He definitely appears to be improving, and he’s got a good attitude.
Cheers for that, I'm only going on what folk say here and that wasn't a lot re some guys on loan.
cameronw-hfc
12-04-2023, 03:54 PM
he got sent back from FC EDINBURGH, with the other 2, because they didn’t see him as being part of the team.
Hibs said that the 3 came back for development, one was sent back to america, one went to queen of the south permanently. Allan has played most of the development games since, and been inconsistent but mostly fine.
He didn’t get sent back because he was better than that level.
He definitely appears to be improving, and he’s got a good attitude.
Nah, he got sent back because we've/theyve terminated the agreement between clubs. There was a fall out behind the scenes between clubs hence all loan players coming back from Edinburgh and not sending any back out.
PHeffernan
12-04-2023, 04:27 PM
Nah, he got sent back because we've/theyve terminated the agreement between clubs. There was a fall out behind the scenes between clubs hence all loan players coming back from Edinburgh and not sending any back out.
I think it was a dispute regarding training schedules.
Billy Whizz
12-04-2023, 04:49 PM
I think it was a dispute regarding training schedules.
It’s been like that since year dot with loan signings to part time clubs
Loan clubs want them to train on their nights in, and they usually do team shape on say a Thursday night
Hibs want them to train as normal with them through the week
HIBS NUTS
12-04-2023, 05:21 PM
I think it was a dispute regarding training schedules.
There may have been a dispute over training, hibs said at the time it was for the 3 players development.
2 of them lasted days before they then left the club.
That doesn’t sound like they were very good, especially johnsone
Allan did play more games than the other 2, however he got booked almost every game he played, and very rarely lasted the 90 minutes, often he came off injured
FC EDINBURGH did not want them to stay.
If you check the FC EDINBURGH stats before january, you can see this information.
Mabye the truth is somewhere in between.
🤔😄👍🏻
Tambo
13-04-2023, 10:53 AM
Even though Newcastle u23 don't seem to be as good as other Premier league u23s from the league tables a very good result.
A good season for the Development squad with the reserve league title I'm sight and some great European adventures and I'm hoping a few will be more featured next season in the first team.
U18 is a very young team next season so let's hope the group can do better next year as most will still be eligible.
Still contracts for Josh and Ethan not been sorted out and Jacob and Rudi should be at the u17s euros for Scotland in the summer.
offshorehibby
13-04-2023, 10:59 AM
Even though Newcastle u23 don't seem to be as good as other Premier league u23s from the league tables a very good result.
A good season for the Development squad with the reserve league title I'm sight and some great European adventures and I'm hoping a few will be more featured next season in the first team.
U18 is a very young team next season so let's hope the group can do better next year as most will still be eligible.
Still contracts for Josh and Ethan not been sorted out and Jacob and Rudi should be at the u17s euros for Scotland in the summer.
I think the contracts have been sorted out, they're just not signing them.
Oscar T Grouch
13-04-2023, 11:00 AM
Even though Newcastle u23 don't seem to be as good as other Premier league u23s from the league tables a very good result.
A good season for the Development squad with the reserve league title I'm sight and some great European adventures and I'm hoping a few will be more featured next season in the first team.
U18 is a very young team next season so let's hope the group can do better next year as most will still be eligible.
Still contracts for Josh and Ethan not been sorted out and Jacob and Rudi should be at the u17s euros for Scotland in the summer.
It was the Newcastle U21 side, they had a lot of younger players who haven't played for the U23 side yet. Their U21 side is not having a god season and sit 9th in a table of 11, but like you say it is still a good result against a premier league youth side
Tambo
13-04-2023, 11:07 AM
It was the Newcastle U21 side, they had a lot of younger players who haven't played for the U23 side yet. Their U21 side is not having a god season and sit 9th in a table of 11, but like you say it is still a good result against a premier league youth side
Thanks for that, I should start reading things a bit better from now on.
I do think a lack of games and rumors that Hibs didn't want to let anyone go in January because of the European run, we have a few good talents at both levels but they just need first team football playing vs men.
I think the contracts have been sorted out, they're just not signing them.
So they are not sorted out effectively.
superfurryhibby
13-04-2023, 11:40 AM
So they are not sorted out effectively.
How do you get someone to sign a contract when they want to leave?
offshorehibby
13-04-2023, 11:47 AM
So they are not sorted out effectively.
People keep wording it so it sounds like Hibs are in the wrong. Hibs have offered them the contract, the ball's in the laddies courts they don't want to sign.
HIBS NUTS
13-04-2023, 11:48 AM
Even though Newcastle u23 don't seem to be as good as other Premier league u23s from the league tables a very good result.
A good season for the Development squad with the reserve league title I'm sight and some great European adventures and I'm hoping a few will be more featured next season in the first team.
U18 is a very young team next season so let's hope the group can do better next year as most will still be eligible.
Still contracts for Josh and Ethan not been sorted out and Jacob and Rudi should be at the u17s euros for Scotland in the summer.
Jacob and rudi definitely 2 young guys to look forward too. 👍🏻
Fanforlife
14-04-2023, 07:16 PM
18,s won 3 2 away to Hamilton today😁
Tambo
14-04-2023, 08:18 PM
18,s won 3 2 away to Hamilton today😁
Scorers for Hibs were Alfie Smith, and Josh Landers with a double.
tbfhibs2
16-04-2023, 09:21 AM
Well done 18’s, great result
Tambo
17-04-2023, 08:03 PM
The Hibs Dev Squad could secure the cinch Reserve League title on Tuesday afternoon when they play Queen of the South at Palmerston Park.
Steve Kean’s side travel to the borders to play Queen of the South on Tuesday (18 April) needing just a point to clinch the title.
If the Dev Squad avoid defeat, it means Steve Kean’s side will round off an unbeaten season in the cinch Reserve League.
The Dev Squad have been on fine form this campaign, winning six and drawing two of their eight league games so far.
They currently lead the way on 20 points, seven points clear of their nearest challengers Kilmarnock – who have a game in hand.
Motherwell and Dundee United have both only played five matches, meaning mathematically they are still in contention although it is unlikely they will catch the Hibees.
Dumfrieshibs
18-04-2023, 06:18 AM
The Hibs Dev Squad could secure the cinch Reserve League title on Tuesday afternoon when they play Queen of the South at Palmerston Park.
Steve Kean’s side travel to the borders to play Queen of the South on Tuesday (18 April) needing just a point to clinch the title.
If the Dev Squad avoid defeat, it means Steve Kean’s side will round off an unbeaten season in the cinch Reserve League.
The Dev Squad have been on fine form this campaign, winning six and drawing two of their eight league games so far.
They currently lead the way on 20 points, seven points clear of their nearest challengers Kilmarnock – who have a game in hand.
Motherwell and Dundee United have both only played five matches, meaning mathematically they are still in contention although it is unlikely they will catch the Hibees.
Can anyone confirm the kick off time . The post says afternoon but I've had a message to say it's 7.30 pm . Can't make an afternoon kick off but will go along if it's evening k.o.
Oscar T Grouch
18-04-2023, 07:00 AM
Can anyone confirm the kick off time . The post says afternoon but I've had a message to say it's 7.30 pm . Can't make an afternoon kick off but will go along if it's evening k.o.
Yeah kick off changed to 7:30pm
Www.twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1648052603861757953?cxt=HHwWgsCzhZHHh98tAAAA
Dumfrieshibs
18-04-2023, 07:01 AM
Yeah kick off changed to 7:30pm
Www.twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1648052603861757953?cxt=HHwWgsCzhZHHh98tAAAA
Thanks Oscar 🇳🇬🇳🇬
Tambo
18-04-2023, 06:22 PM
https://twitter.com/p_mcpartlin/status/1647652293834145794?cxt=HHwWhIC89YLC0d0tAAAA
Some strike.
Tambo
18-04-2023, 06:22 PM
https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1648389865313124354?cxt=HHwWhIC-1ar2oOAtAAAA
Starting 11 for tonight.
Unseen work
18-04-2023, 06:24 PM
I take it there’s nowhere to watch it?
I know there might not be a huge demand but I’d love to see more of the reserve/development team. They’ll record all games anyway so why not create a section on Hibs TV for them whether it’s the games, highlights etc.
The more access to Hibs the better and helps build a relationship with fans.
tbfhibs2
18-04-2023, 06:43 PM
Two goals in two minutes for Hibs.
Tambo
18-04-2023, 07:23 PM
3 up. Game over 💚
0-4 Half time.
Tambo
18-04-2023, 07:24 PM
McGregor, Delferrière, Jacob MacIntyre and Aiken with the goals.
CapitalGreen
18-04-2023, 07:33 PM
Hibs HT/FT was Evens last night
HIBS NUTS
18-04-2023, 07:44 PM
Hibs HT/FT was Evens last night
Brilliant
I met a guy who stands at east mains, who presses a button on his phone, the moment a goal is scored to suspend the betting.
What a great job.
Ringothedog
18-04-2023, 08:04 PM
Currently 0-5, make that 0-6
JammyDoidger
18-04-2023, 08:09 PM
Brilliant
I met a guy who stands at east mains, who presses a button on his phone, the moment a goal is scored to suspend the betting.
What a great job.
Could be doing with distracting him or getting a hold of that phone next time😂
JammyDoidger
18-04-2023, 08:18 PM
Brilliant
I met a guy who stands at east mains, who presses a button on his phone, the moment a goal is scored to suspend the betting.
What a great job.
Could be doing with distracting him or getting a hold of that phone next time😂
Unseen work
18-04-2023, 08:21 PM
McGregor, Delferrière, Jacob MacIntyre and Aiken with the goals.
Is Jacob a highly thought of player?
Heard more about Oscar and little about him.
Tambo
18-04-2023, 08:23 PM
Is Jacob a highly thought of player?
Heard more about Oscar and little about him.
Yes I think so, maybe someone else can confirm but I think there both highly rated and he's a regular in the u17 scotland squads.
Hibernian Verse
18-04-2023, 08:24 PM
This McGregor guy sounds decent
Unseen work
18-04-2023, 08:25 PM
This McGregor guy sounds decent
Very mature and solid for a development player.
Looking forward to seeing him in the first team.
HIBS NUTS
18-04-2023, 08:25 PM
Is Jacob a highly thought of player?
Heard more about Oscar and little about him.
Very highly thought of, i might be wrong but i think he has already signed an extended contract like oscar.
HIBS NUTS
18-04-2023, 08:26 PM
Could be doing with distracting him or getting a hold of that phone next time😂
Yeh money to be made. 👍🏻😄
Brilliant
I met a guy who stands at east mains, who presses a button on his phone, the moment a goal is scored to suspend the betting.
What a great job.
There must be a phone button goal guy at every match you can put a bet on. Imagine the panic if they lose the network connection.
CapitalGreen
18-04-2023, 08:30 PM
Is Jacob a highly thought of player?
Heard more about Oscar and little about him.
Jacob is the better player and has a higher ceiling imo, there has been EPL teams looking at him this season.
Tambo
18-04-2023, 08:37 PM
Full time 0-6
Anyone know who got the 5th and 6th?
An unbeaten league campaign 👏
🏆
SON OF PADDY
18-04-2023, 09:04 PM
Full time 0-6
Anyone know who got the 5th and 6th?
An unbeaten league campaign 👏
🏆
Fantastic result guys, congratulations on winning the league
Donegal Hibby
18-04-2023, 09:25 PM
Full time 0-6
Anyone know who got the 5th and 6th?
An unbeaten league campaign 👏
🏆
Champions 🏆 .well done Hibs :not worth
Report here T
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/dev-squad-crowned-champions-in-style
Tambo
18-04-2023, 10:06 PM
Champions 🏆 .well done Hibs :not worth
Report here T
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/dev-squad-crowned-champions-in-style
Cheers, Ethan at the heart of things from the look of things and a great all around performance.
Wonder what next season will hold for alot of these players 🤔
Hauge! Yikes, I had almost forgotten about him.
Unseen work
18-04-2023, 10:08 PM
Laidlaw liking a couple of tweets about new contracts….
“ Well done lads now let's see O'connor and Laidlaw new deals pls 🙏”
And
“ Great time to announce a laidlaw contract tbf”
Could just be liking the attention, or maybe he’s signed a new deal.
Tambo
18-04-2023, 10:36 PM
Laidlaw liking a couple of tweets about new contracts….
“ Well done lads now let's see O'connor and Laidlaw new deals pls 🙏”
And
“ Great time to announce a laidlaw contract tbf”
Could just be liking the attention, or maybe he’s signed a new deal.
Hopefully a new deal and both Josh and Ethan are here for next season.
What about Aiken, did he not like Hull? He wants first team football and also Zaid would be looking for more next season.
The only way we're going to find out if these youth players can improve the team is to give them more a chance and it could also save us money if it's a success.
Josh looked capable from the times he has had playing with the first team from what I've seen.
If we sell Nisbet we have Josh who could be used as a back up to Nisbets replacement so would see more minutes, Ethan can play anywhere in the front line so would be back up for both Boyle and Youan(if he returns) and would see more minutes.
LJ has said he wants to get more youth involved and I can see why he didn't want to just throw them in at the deep end but was also a shame we never seen much more of them when first teamers came back but again LJ needed his experienced pros.
Donegal Hibby
19-04-2023, 12:44 PM
Some very good goals for Hibs here .
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/highlights-dev-squad-hit-queen-of-the-south-for-six
HIBS NUTS
19-04-2023, 01:07 PM
Some very good goals for Hibs here .
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/highlights-dev-squad-hit-queen-of-the-south-for-six
thanks
Greenbeard
19-04-2023, 01:25 PM
Some very good goals for Hibs here .
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/highlights-dev-squad-hit-queen-of-the-south-for-six
:agree:
Brightside
19-04-2023, 01:29 PM
Daz looks like he's turned up at the 5s with his wee boys.
Unseen work
19-04-2023, 02:25 PM
O’Connor done brilliantly for his goal. That pace in directness is so threatening and dangerous.
Delferierre also looks a lot more of a ‘man’ than his opposition, all looks very easy for him.
Hard to say how they’ll fit into the first team as it clearly is a step up. Melkersen posted a couple of clips of him from back in Sweden and I thought he looks unbelievable but we’ve hardly saw it in a Hibs shirt, even the smallest thing like getting a yard/in a position to get a shot at goal is so much more difficult.
Some very good goals for Hibs here .
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/highlights-dev-squad-hit-queen-of-the-south-for-six
One thing I noticed was that Delferriere was very prominent during the game but wasn't in the final bit when the trophy was being lifted, very strange.
Hibernian Verse
19-04-2023, 03:32 PM
One thing I noticed was that Delferriere was very prominent during the game but wasn't in the final bit when the trophy was being lifted, very strange.
No wonder. He must be wondering how he's wound up in the SPFL Reserve League after playing some first team football for Liege.
His absence does suggest an attitude problem though.
Greenbeard
19-04-2023, 03:43 PM
No wonder. He must be wondering how he's wound up in the SPFL Reserve League after playing some first team football for Liege.
His absence does suggest an attitude problem though.
Short clips only but from this match and the Newcastle clips last week he looks to have the demeanour of a team player.
linlithgowhibbie
19-04-2023, 03:48 PM
No wonder. He must be wondering how he's wound up in the SPFL Reserve League after playing some first team football for Liege.
His absence does suggest an attitude problem though.
Or maybe he needed a pee and nobody waited for him!
No wonder. He must be wondering how he's wound up in the SPFL Reserve League after playing some first team football for Liege.
His absence does suggest an attitude problem though.
Short clips only but from this match and the Newcastle clips last week he looks to have the demeanour of a team player.
He seems a chilled out type of players, never over the top when scoring but goes around all the team high fiving after any goals scored and the celebration when Zaid scored shows he seems a team player, just weird he wasn't in the final pic with all the other players with the trophy.
CapitalGreen
19-04-2023, 03:52 PM
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Maybe nipped inside and missed it then, see bare feet. :greengrin
chippy
19-04-2023, 04:17 PM
Delferriere was on his way back to Belgium in the last window but it was stopped because of loan to Ed City he’d played for 2 clubs already. He’ll be away back in the next window
Torto7
19-04-2023, 05:37 PM
He seems to be playing further forward in the last two clips of the games I've seen. Josh Campbell was struggling for a position as well until he was moved into being an attacking midfielder on loan. Maybe Delfierre is similar?
Tambo
19-04-2023, 06:24 PM
Some very good goals for Hibs here .
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/highlights-dev-squad-hit-queen-of-the-south-for-six
👍 good goals especially Aiken and O'connor.
Golden Bear
20-04-2023, 07:05 AM
👍 good goals especially Aiken and O'connor.
:agree:
An absolute cracker from Aiken.
:thumbsup:
hibee-boys
20-04-2023, 11:10 AM
Any of these players likely to be challenging for the first team match day squad anytime soon? We seem to have success with the development/under 18s but, thus far, very few have ended up making a regular contribution for the first team.
SaulGoodman
20-04-2023, 11:28 AM
No wonder. He must be wondering how he's wound up in the SPFL Reserve League after playing some first team football for Liege.
His absence does suggest an attitude problem though.
My laddies football team got to be ball boys for the Hibs Dev against Dunbar United game in pre-season.
Alan stayed behind at the end and played Football with the kids for a good 10 minutes, signed my laddies Hibs top and was happy to take photos.
Seemed like a really good guy.
HIBS NUTS
20-04-2023, 03:27 PM
My laddies football team got to be ball boys for the Hibs Dev against Dunbar United game in pre-season.
Alan stayed behind at the end and played Football with the kids for a good 10 minutes, signed my laddies Hibs top and was happy to take photos.
Seemed like a really good guy.
Enjoyed that day, a pint in the clubhouse, and a masterclass of midfield football, from Tait.
He can’t get a game for arbroath now. 😞
CapitalGreen
20-04-2023, 03:36 PM
Enjoyed that day, a pint in the clubhouse, and a masterclass of midfield football, from Tait.
He can’t get a game for arbroath now. 😞
He started last weekend. He was out injured for 10 weeks and only returned a few weeks ago. Since then Arbroath have been increasing his game time to build his fitness. Prior to his injury he started all 13 league games except 1.
tbfhibs2
21-04-2023, 07:00 PM
18,s 1-0 up against Dundee United.
Half time
gaz1875
21-04-2023, 07:34 PM
I thought they looked a bit embarrassed about lifting the trophy.
andrew70
21-04-2023, 08:06 PM
18,s 1-0 up against Dundee United.
Half time
What was full time score?
tbfhibs2
21-04-2023, 08:39 PM
What was full time score?
2-1 to Dundee United
SaulGoodman
21-04-2023, 09:10 PM
Enjoyed that day, a pint in the clubhouse, and a masterclass of midfield football, from Tait.
He can’t get a game for arbroath now. 😞
Was a good day, lovely weather too.
Brooster
25-04-2023, 08:38 AM
I see Hibs Facebook page are advertising that the 18s are playing St Mirren at EMs tonight but there's no mention of it on the website. Does anyone know for sure if we are playing tonight?
HTD1875
25-04-2023, 08:44 AM
I see Hibs Facebook page are advertising that the 18s are playing St Mirren at EMs tonight but there's no mention of it on the website. Does anyone know for sure if we are playing tonight?
Yes game is on, this a rescheduled fixture from the international break few weeks ago.
Brooster
25-04-2023, 08:54 AM
Yes game is on, this a rescheduled fixture from the international break few weeks ago.
Thanks very much.
Brooster
25-04-2023, 06:51 PM
2-1 Hibs ht.
Brooster
25-04-2023, 08:19 PM
3-2 Hibs ft.
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