Hibs 18's and Development

[oneone73]

Heard that Murray Aiken has been successful in his appeal against his red card vs Nantes so available for the tie vs Dortmund.

Excellent news

[Brooster]

3 nil Hibs half time.

[Brightside]

18s beat Nitten 20s 5-0

[Bridge hibs]

18s beat Nitten 20s 5-0Any standouts ?

[Brooster]

Any standouts ?

It was a friendly, 8 subs at half time. Good run out for the lads. Laidlaw excellent again, scored a raker and a penalty.

[PHeffernan]

Heard that Murray Aiken has been successful in his appeal against his red card vs Nantes so available for the tie vs Dortmund.

What's your source?
Not been able to find this info anywhere online.
Absolutely fantastic if it's true.

[Bridge hibs]

It was a friendly, 8 subs at half time. Good run out for the lads. Laidlaw excellent again, scored a raker and a penalty.
Thanks Brooster 👍

[tbfhibs2]

18,s result
Motherwell 1 Hibs 1

[Blaster]

1-0 up in the reserve cup

[Nakedmanoncrack]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/ticket-info-wee-hibees-host-borussia-dortmund

I see it's East Stand only for Dortmund game, no singing section in FF this time?

[Blaster]

2-0 👍

[HIBS NUTS]

2-0 👍
fantastic

It would be great to see the line up.

[Blaster]

fantastic

It would be great to see the line up.

Full time. I was just following it on a betting site which didn’t have the line up or scorers

[andrew70]

Laidlaw scored twice. No idea of team have asked for it on twitter.

[Tambo]

Laidlaw scored twice. No idea of team have asked for it on twitter.

Get him on the bench Sunday, not sure what he has to do to get a chance and now with Melkersen away must to time to promote someone.

[Billy Whizz]

Laidlaw scored twice. No idea of team have asked for it on twitter.

You’d have thought it was mostly the under 19 team, in prep for the Dortmund game

[andrew70]

You’d have thought it was mostly the under 19 team, in prep for the Dortmund game

That would make sense but when has anything Hibs made sense lately.

United had a decent team out so it’s an impressive score if it was indeed the 19s

[HIBS NUTS]

Get him on the bench Sunday, not sure what he has to do to get a chance and now with Melkersen away must to time to promote someone.

Ethan has stepped up a level and should be in the match day squad, there has to be some encouragement, pathway forward.

[andrew70]

Ethan has stepped up a level and should be in the match day squad, there has to be some encouragement, pathway forward.

100%

[IberianHibernian]

Schofield, Megwa,Blaney, McIntyre x 2, Hastie, Aiken, hamilton, Zaid, O`Connor, Laidlaw
Emmanuel Johnson on in second half

[erin go bragh]

Any truth about Ethan Laidlaw not been offered an extension to his contract that runs out in the summer😳

[andrew70]

Schofield, Megwa,Blaney, McIntyre x 2, Hastie, Aiken, hamilton, Zaid, O`Connor, Laidlaw
Emmanuel Johnson on in second half

I wonder why Murray Johnson never played. 🤔

[HH81]

The Dortmund game is on BT, be good to watch it.

[Since452]

Would prefer to see Laidlaw get a chance in the first team over utter dross like McKirdy.

[Forza Fred]

Any truth about Ethan Laidlaw not been offered an extension to his contract that runs out in the summer😳

Josh O’Connor’s also expires at the end of May……..

[flash]

Would prefer to see Laidlaw get a chance in the first team over utter dross like McKirdy.

"Utter dross." This place.

[scoopyboy]

Josh O’Connor’s also expires at the end of May……..

Common knowledge in Australia is that Fred?

[Forza Fred]

Common knowledge in Australia is that Fred?

Been discussed on here several times.


Be delighted if you could confirm or deny, if you think the situation is different.

And I would suggest after reading Josh’s comments about his current contract expiring at the end of this season in The Evening News in October, that it would have been ‘common knowledge’ where you are too.

You may have missed it….and indeed I may have missed any subsequent reports that it has already been extended…but I try to keep abreast of things as best I can…and pretty sure it would have been worthy of reporting.

That’s the beauty of the internet these days..instead of waiting on air mailed Pink News’s for info, we can get the same news anywhere in the world at the same time you do.

[scoopyboy]

Been discussed on here several times.


Be delighted if you could confirm or deny, if you think the situation is different.

I can neither confirm nor deny because I simply don't know Fred.

Being frank you don't really know either, you have read posts on here where for all you know the posters might not know either.

I have searched the official website and although there are several articles on the players signing they don't state when the contracts run out.

Just because Tam, Bert and Wul have all posted things doesn't make them true.

[scoopyboy]

Been discussed on here several times.


Be delighted if you could confirm or deny, if you think the situation is different.

And I would suggest after reading Josh’s comments about his current contract expiring at the end of this season in The Evening News in October, that it would have been ‘common knowledge’ where you are too.

You may have missed it….and indeed I may have missed any subsequent reports that it has already been extended…but I try to keep abreast of things as best I can…and pretty sure it would have been worthy of reporting.

That’s the beauty of the internet these days..instead of waiting on air mailed Pink News’s for info, we can get the same news anywhere in the world at the same time you do.

I appreciate the internet must be a godsend Fred for you getting information.

However I think we have all learned what you read on it isn't always gospel.

Would still rather have it than not.

[Forza Fred]

I can neither confirm nor deny because I simply don't know Fred.

Being frank you don't really know either, you have read posts on here where for all you know the posters might not know either.

I have searched the official website and although there are several articles on the players signing they don't state when the contracts run out.

Just because Tam, Bert and Wul have all posted things doesn't make them true.

Search the Evening News archive for the October article with Josh where he himself states that his current contract ends at the end of this season

There has been no advice that that position has changed and pretty sure that when Josh does sign an extension…as I hope he would..that it would be considered worthy of reporting.

I said it had been discussed on here…..I did not say That was why it was true…….that came from Josh’s interview.

Thanks for the advice about not believing everything that’s posted on here as being true, but I kind
Of figured that out already, thanks.

[scoopyboy]

Search the Evening News archive for the October article with Josh where he himself states that his current contract ends at the end of this season

There has been no advice that that position has changed and pretty sure that when Josh does sign an extension…as I hope he would..that it would be considered worthy of reporting.

I said it had been discussed on here…..I did not say That was why it was true…….that came from Josh’s interview.

Thanks for the advice about not believing everything that’s posted on here as being true, but I kind
Of figured that out already, thanks.

I will have a look for it Fred, thanks for the reference.

Shouldn't matter anyway because Josh was telling his team mates (allegedly) he was signing for West Ham United for 1.2 million in January:greengrin

[JimBHibees]

Would prefer to see Laidlaw get a chance in the first team over utter dross like McKirdy.

Really

[SMAXXA]

Any truth about Ethan Laidlaw not been offered an extension to his contract that runs out in the summer😳

He has been offered a contract extension but won’t be signing on the terms been offered I believe. Hibs have offered a contract but get the feeling it’s to cover themselves so we get compensation opposed to offering improved terms to actually show we are desperate to keep the laddie and see a future for him which is a surprise to me.

[SMAXXA]

I will have a look for it Fred, thanks for the reference.

Shouldn't matter anyway because Josh was telling his team mates (allegedly) he was signing for West Ham United for 1.2 million in January:greengrin

Lol from what I’ve seen of Josh I don’t think he’s anywhere ready for the first team at the moment.

[scoopyboy]

He has been offered a contract extension but won’t be signing on the terms been offered I believe. Hibs have offered a contract but get the feeling it’s to cover themselves so we get compensation opposed to offering improved terms to actually show we are desperate to keep the laddie and see a future for him which is a surprise to me.

I think that is poor from Hibs.

Does the compensation fee not get based upon what the player was offered?

[CL0762]

I will have a look for it Fred, thanks for the reference.

Shouldn't matter anyway because Josh was telling his team mates (allegedly) he was signing for West Ham United for 1.2 million in January:greengrin

Funny because him and Garry were in the 3 sisters a few weeks ago telling people he was off to Arsenal in the summer (allegedly)

[SMAXXA]

I think that is poor from Hibs.

Does the compensation fee not get based upon what the player was offered?

I’m not sure how it’s calculated mate, I thought the new contract had to be equal or more than the previous but that may not be the case. Strange one all round as musnt think he has a long term future which is a surprise

[Ronniekirk]

I’m not sure how it’s calculated mate, I thought the new contract had to be equal or more than the previous but that may not be the case. Strange one all round as musnt think he has a long term future which is a surprise
When we let Conner Young go to Rangers earlier in the season it was quoted that we had other young strikers that were valued more and it would give them a better chance to break into the first team
O Conner and Laidlaw were the two strikers it was supposed to benefit
Will be interesting to see what happens
The worry fir me is we have spent a lot on promising players to be developed in a mythical B team Mostbof it has been wasted snd no one looks at this stage like they will break into the first team
So L J is rightly moving as many on as he can But some are on longer contracts and may not be able to be moved on So young players in Development team may now suffer as we are struggling possibly to give them desks that would keep them at the club

[scoopyboy]

I’m not sure how it’s calculated mate, I thought the new contract had to be equal or more than the previous but that may not be the case. Strange one all round as musnt think he has a long term future which is a surprise

I saw maybe 10 under 18 games last season and I've been to the two European games this season.

I know all the players won't make it in Hibs first team but I would think Ethan Laidlaw is one of the likeliest if not the most likely. Others I think have an outstanding chance are Oscar and Jacob McIntyre, Murray Johnstone and Murray Aiken.

We lost Connor Young to Rangers at the end of the season but he has done very little there to argue with Hibs decision to let him go.

I would be appalled if Hibs just let Ethan Laidlaw go without a fight, in fact I just can't see it happening and common sense has to prevail.

[SMAXXA]

I saw maybe 10 under 18 games last season and I've been to the two European games this season.

I know all the players won't make it in Hibs first team but I would think Ethan Laidlaw is one of the likeliest if not the most likely. Others I think have an outstanding chance are Oscar and Jacob McIntyre, Murray Johnstone and Murray Aiken.

We lost Connor Young to Rangers at the end of the season but he has done very little there to argue with Hibs decision to let him go.

I would be appalled if Hibs just let Ethan Laidlaw go without a fight, in fact I just can't see it happening and common sense has to prevail.

I agree with everything you have said and those are the lads I think have a future. Young McIntyre is the one I believe they have big hopes for, was speaking to Big Daz and Gareth evens and they were raving about him and think he had a right chance. Laidlaw looked good in the European games I saw and surprised he’s not been given more a chance at first team level. As you say hopefully they reach an agreement

[cameronw-hfc]

I agree with everything you have said and those are the lads I think have a future. Young McIntyre is the one I believe they have big hopes for, was speaking to Big Daz and Gareth evens and they were raving about him and think he had a right chance. Laidlaw looked good in the European games I saw and surprised he’s not been given more a chance at first team level. As you say hopefully they reach an agreement


Conor young was just as much our decision as it was us "losing him". The club figured he was the least likely to go far out of the 3 young strikers, weve also got a few younger lads that look good too, so they allowed him to look elsewhere as to not stall his development and stall the other 2. O'Connor and Laidlaw are far far better players, only thing Young has on them is physical stature.

[andrew70]

Conor young was just as much our decision as it was us "losing him". The club figured he was the least likely to go far out of the 3 young strikers, weve also got a few younger lads that look good too, so they allowed him to look elsewhere as to not stall his development and stall the other 2. O'Connor and Laidlaw are far far better players, only thing Young has on them is physical stature.

Wouldn’t say “far, far better” especially not with Josh v Connor. Young is a terrific finisher and more of a number 9 than Josh but they all have their positives and negatives.

I agree with Scoopyboy Laidlaw has a real chance at going far in the game.

[cameronw-hfc]

Wouldn’t say “far, far better” especially not with Josh v Connor. Young is a terrific finisher and more of a number 9 than Josh but they all have their positives and negatives.

I agree with Scoopyboy Laidlaw has a real chance at going far in the game.


I mean technical ability, not where they currently are overall as players, Josh has a way to go yet but he's much more technically gifted than Connor, so it made sense to stick with him and Ethan imo.

[cameronw-hfc]

Will point out Ethan Laidlaws twitter likes are an interesting look. Liking a comment saying something along the lines of "keep banging them in, they can't ignore you forever". If for whatever reason there isn't a deal on the table for him, that's shocking.

[scoopyboy]

Will point out Ethan Laidlaws twitter likes are an interesting look. Liking a comment saying something along the lines of "keep banging them in, they can't ignore you forever". If for whatever reason there isn't a deal on the table for him, that's shocking.

I believe 100% there is a deal on the table, my understanding is it's not anywhere near acceptable.

This sticks in my throat when I hear figures that some of our more recent signings are on.

[cameronw-hfc]

I believe 100% there is a deal on the table, my understanding is it's not anywhere near acceptable.

This sticks in my throat when I hear figures that some of our more recent signings are on.


I heard similar, and got told discussions are still ongoing as he's not happy with the current deal. (should say from what I've heard he's not asking for anything mental, just something reasonable).

Although I said on twitter it wasn't all black and white as him not being offered anything and got told it is as black and white so not sure what to believe.

[scoopyboy]

I heard similar, and got told discussions are still ongoing as he's not happy with the current deal. (should say from what I've heard he's not asking for anything mental, just something reasonable).

Although I said on twitter it wasn't all black and white as him not being offered anything and got told it is as black and white so not sure what to believe.

I would like to think something will be sorted out.

[Brooster]

Hibs were always letting Young go therefore it was a bonus to get £50k for him. He won't come back to bite us I'm sure. Laidlaw is a standout every time I see him, Ive seen him play at least a dozen times this season. It's frightening to think he can still play u18s next season. He's the one we need to keep.

[scoopyboy]

Hibs were always letting Young go therefore it was a bonus to get £50k for him. He won't come back to bite us I'm sure. Laidlaw is a standout every time I see him, Ive seen him play at least a dozen times this season. It's frightening to think he can still play u18s next season. He's the one we need to keep.

Given that the McIntyre brothers have signed decent length deals and we all want to see Laidlaw signing who else would you prioritise.

[DJ HIBBY]

Not heard anything on Laidlaw but did hear that o’Connor had knocked back several new contract offers

[The dalmeny]

Conor young was just as much our decision as it was us "losing him". The club figured he was the least likely to go far out of the 3 young strikers, weve also got a few younger lads that look good too, so they allowed him to look elsewhere as to not stall his development and stall the other 2. O'Connor and Laidlaw are far far better players, only thing Young has on them is physical stature.

I see Young got 2 goals at the weekend

[Brightside]

Funny because him and Garry were in the 3 sisters a few weeks ago telling people he was off to Arsenal in the summer (allegedly)

Maybe they should stop going to the three sisters if they want to be next level professionals.

[MikeyS]

I will have a look for it Fred, thanks for the reference.

Shouldn't matter anyway because Josh was telling his team mates (allegedly) he was signing for West Ham United for 1.2 million in January:greengrin

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree it seems! Gary was a total slaver when young too regarding clubs that he was going to!

[Stairway 2 7]

I see Young got 2 goals at the weekend

His first goal in about 10 games in a thumping against Dalbeattie star. He'll be 19 in summer will probably be a big season next year probably need a loan if he's to step up

[Slim Shady]

Garry was telling our table in hospitality they value Josh at £3m
So Josh wants £5k a week but would settle for £3.5k.

Bar had only been open for an hour as well!!!

[Heisenberg]

Garry was telling our table in hospitality they value Josh at £3m
So Josh wants £5k a week but would settle for £3.5k.

Bar had only been open for an hour as well!!!

😂 He’s always been some man for talking *****. At least make it semi believable ffs Garry!

[truehibernian]

Garry was telling our table in hospitality they value Josh at £3m
So Josh wants £5k a week but would settle for £3.5k.

Bar had only been open for an hour as well!!!

Should have asked him if Kevin Nisbet was on that kind of money at 18 at Patrick Thistle 👍 hard work, dedication and proving yourself gets those contracts Garry - oh and a fool and his money are soon parted 👍

[superfurryhibby]

Our youngsters will probably be on pretty low wages and must look at the likes of Tavares, Kenneh and Melkersen and compare what they earn with what they (allegedly) earn and think WTF. Is this a case of us offering Laidlaw and O'Connor a relative pittance compared to laddies mentioned and they're thinking, **** signing that? I can't see any info on the length of Laidlaw's contact online, but I'm surprised it was only a two year deal. He signed his first professional contact in Feb 2021, when he was 16.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/ethan-laidlaw-signs-first-professional-contract

[Sioux]

Should have asked him if Kevin Nisbet was on that kind of money at 18 at Patrick Thistle 👍 hard work, dedication and proving yourself gets those contracts Garry - oh and a fool and his money are soon parted 👍

Garry needs to butt out and leave contract conversations to those that are not emotionally involved. Surely young O'Connor has a proper agent?

[Brightside]

Our youngsters will probably be on pretty low wages and must look at the likes of Tavares, Kenneh and Melkersen and compare what they earn with what they (allegedly) earn and think WTF. Is this a case of us offering Laidlaw and O'Connor a relative pittance compared to laddies mentioned and they're thinking, **** signing that? I can't see any info on the length of Laidlaw's contact online, but I'm surprised it was only a two year deal. He signed his first professional contact in Feb 2021, when he was 16.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/ethan-laidlaw-signs-first-professional-contract

But the players you have mentioned are first team players. Once these young boys start performing for the first team then they are in a position to ask for more money and not before.

[GreenPJ]

Garry needs to butt out and leave contract conversations to those that are not emotionally involved. Surely young O'Connor has a proper agent?

Kurtis Byrne mark 2

[SMAXXA]

Garry needs to butt out and leave contract conversations to those that are not emotionally involved. Surely young O'Connor has a proper agent?

He will be the ruin of that laddie guaranteed

[HIBS NUTS]

He will be the ruin of that laddie guaranteed

If josh is to be the worth big tranfer fees, he wants to stay away from, Why Not, and the Harp and Castle.
He is not doing himself, any favours.
Edinburgh has a small nightlife,and my laddie uses most of it, but he’s a chef.

[J-C]

But the players you have mentioned are first team players. Once these young boys start performing for the first team then they are in a position to ask for more money and not before.

Not quite, Tavares and Melkersen were brought in for the development squad, same squad as O'Connor an Laidlaw.

[04Sauzee]

Not quite, Tavares and Melkersen were brought in for the development squad, same squad as O'Connor an Laidlaw.

I do t think they were? Can't remember reading they were for the development squad like Haugue etc. I could off course be wrong.

[CapitalGreen]

Not quite, Tavares and Melkersen were brought in for the development squad, same squad as O'Connor an Laidlaw.

No they weren’t.

[SMAXXA]

Not quite, Tavares and Melkersen were brought in for the development squad, same squad as O'Connor an Laidlaw.

No they weren’t

[Bayern Bru]

Garry needs to butt out and leave contract conversations to those that are not emotionally involved. Surely young O'Connor has a proper agent?

Yep, Jackie McNamara


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[superfurryhibby]

But the players you have mentioned are first team players. Once these young boys start performing for the first team then they are in a position to ask for more money and not before.

Perhaps that makes them feel all the more frustrated. These guys must be earning a pittance compared to the likes of Tavares, Melkersen, Kenneh, none of whom have actually "performed", albeit they have been on the pitch.

For young strikers with self -belief, knowing that they have had a group of poor strikers (Bojang, Melkersen, McKirdy, Tavares) ahead of them when they are not really getting a sniff of an opportunity, it must piss them off big time. Whether they are any better than the likes of Bojang, Melk or Tav, who knows, but I'm baffled as to why neither have been used from the bench in order to find out.

[The dalmeny]

Yep, Jackie McNamara


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Said 'proper' agent

[Brightside]

Not quite, Tavares and Melkersen were brought in for the development squad, same squad as O'Connor an Laidlaw.

No they weren't. The plan was for them to play in both. Melk got pushed up earlier due to injuries. Tav has just sat on the bench the whole time. They are still classed as senior players and trained with the first team every week.

[hibsforeurope]

Perhaps that makes them feel all the more frustrated. These guys must be earning a pittance compared to the likes of Tavares, Melkersen, Kenneh, none of whom have actually "performed", albeit they have been on the pitch.

For young strikers with self -belief, knowing that they have had a group of poor strikers (Bojang, McKirdy, Tavares) ahead of them when they are not really getting a sniff of an opportunity, it must piss them off big time. Whether they are any better than the likes of Bojang, Melk or Tav, who knows, but I'm baffled as to why neither have been used from the bench in order to find out.

Although it's great for the players, i think this European run has held back, the ones who might make it, from getting more 1st team exposure. it feels like Keen is keeping this group together for Europe. Once that come to an end, whenever that may be, i think we will see the ones who will make it get more game time for the 1st team.

[Brightside]

Perhaps that makes them feel all the more frustrated. These guys must be earning a pittance compared to the likes of Tavares, Melkersen, Kenneh, none of whom have actually "performed", albeit they have been on the pitch.

For young strikers with self -belief, knowing that they have had a group of poor strikers (Bojang, Melkersen, McKirdy, Tavares) ahead of them when they are not really getting a sniff of an opportunity, it must piss them off big time. Whether they are any better than the likes of Bojang, Melk or Tav, who knows, but I'm baffled as to why neither have been used from the bench in order to find out.

I get that. But you can't demand more wages if you haven't moved up to the first team squad proper.

[chippy]

But the players you have mentioned are first team players. Once these young boys start performing for the first team then they are in a position to ask for more money and not before.

Is that perhaps a reason they’ve not been given starts in the 1st team? They would then expect a decent deal quite rightly.

[The dalmeny]

I get that. But you can't demand more wages if you haven't moved up to the first team squad proper.

Some youth contracts have a clause where if you play for the first team you move onto a different pay scale. I often wonder if this affects a clubs decision giving young players an opportunity of first team football

[Brightside]

Is that perhaps a reason they’ve not been given starts in the 1st team? They would then expect a decent deal quite rightly.

Perhaps. I think we are all a bit perplexed why they have had almost zero chance for even cameo roles in games. Other teams at our level seem to often bring on young players during the games.

[The Modfather]

Perhaps. I think we are all a bit perplexed why they have had almost zero chance for even cameo roles in games. Other teams at our level seem to often bring on young players during the games.

Look at the bench against Livi for example. It was full of players we are either actively trying to get rid off or reluctant to ever play e.g. Cabraja, Henderson, Mitchell, Melkerson, Kenneh, Fish. Maybe less so Kenneth & Melkerson as they could also be brought on for game time, but replace some of the others with some of the U19s with little detrimental impact to the bench. Then a game 4-0 up against 10 men is the time to take advantage and give them minutes.

[Greenbeard]

I've only seen the two UEFA Youth Cup games which is not a sound basis for judgement but what struck me most in these two games was the tremendous togetherness of the team, playing as a unit and for each other. The one exception was Laidlaw in the Molde game where his body language left a lot to be desired, giving the impression that he was above the level of football being played, even though his own performance didn't live up to his reputation. However iirc he was maybe not long back from an injury and was perhaps more frustrated with his own performance? He was certainly miles better vs Nantes. Hopefully that is the player we see vs Dortmund, not the sulky chimp* who came out of the box at times vs Molde.
* https://www.amazon.co.uk/Chimp-Paradox-Management-Programme-Confidence/dp/009193558X

[J-C]

No they weren't. The plan was for them to play in both. Melk got pushed up earlier due to injuries. Tav has just sat on the bench the whole time. They are still classed as senior players and trained with the first team every week.
Both were nowhere near ready for 1st team, hence I thought they were for the development team, just shows what a **** up our recruitment has been.

[Since452]

Really

Laidlaw wouldn't offer anything less than McKirdy to the team so why not?

[Since452]

"Utter dross." This place.

He's had more yellow cards than shots at goal. Wouldn't surprise me if he leaves the club without scoring a goal. Absolute dross in my opinion.

[eastmainsmsh]

In the early 90s some of the players in BP sides made it some that didn’t were cracking players that’s the game unfortunately hope a few can get a chance if not then at other clubs

[chippy]

I get that. But you can't demand more wages if you haven't moved up to the first team squad proper.
Therein lies the problem. Guys that are doing it at under 19 level in the elite European tournament are not given a chance in a woefully under performing 1st team. I think there’s something very odd about that. Stories of low ball deals for Laidlaw- possibly others Aitken perhaps who are out of contract in May. What are the Gordon’s playing at?

[04Sauzee]

In the early 90s some of the players in BP sides made it some that didn’t were cracking players that’s the game unfortunately hope a few can get a chance if not then at other clubs

Remember seeing Hibs win the BP youth cup and thinking we had some cracking players in that team that would go on and make a name at Hibs

Jason Gardiner
Graeme Love
Steve Dallas
Nicky Ingram
Darren Dodds
Colin MacDonald

[eastmainsmsh]

Remember seeing Hibs win the BP youth cup and thinking we had some cracking players in that team that would go on and make a name at Hibs

Jason Gardiner
Graeme Love
Steve Dallas
Nicky Ingram
Darren Dodds
Colin MacDonald

Some great prospects Dundee United had a good side as well

Colin McDonald and Paul Currie were from Musselburgh I’m sure ?

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Therein lies the problem. Guys that are doing it at under 19 level in the elite European tournament are not given a chance in a woefully under performing 1st team. I think there’s something very odd about that. Stories of low ball deals for Laidlaw- possibly others Aitken perhaps who are out of contract in May. What are the Gordon’s playing at?

I doubt contract renewals for under 19 players are within the Gordon’s MO. That would be Ben Kensell, our CEO

[superfurryhibby]

Therein lies the problem. Guys that are doing it at under 19 level in the elite European tournament are not given a chance in a woefully under performing 1st team. I think there’s something very odd about that. Stories of low ball deals for Laidlaw- possibly others Aitken perhaps who are out of contract in May. What are the Gordon’s playing at?

Therein lies the trouble.

As another poster said, if there are provisos around improving contracts if young players play in first team games then it would be truly appalling if that became the basis for holding any of them back.

[chippy]

I doubt contract renewals for under 19 players are within the Gordon’s MO. That would be Ben Kensell, our CEO
They own and control the club, it’s on their watch

[Brightside]

They own and control the club, it’s on their watch

Ben runs the club day to day, and he has contract negotiation as part of his role. I assume he will have budget allocated to the youth squad and will try and figure out how best to spend that with Steve Kean.

[CapitalGreen]

Therein lies the trouble.

As another poster said, if there are provisos around improving contracts if young players play in first team games then it would be truly appalling if that became the basis for holding any of them back.

We don’t have a history of holding young players back but we do have a history of fans putting unrealistic expectations on young players based solely on their performances in youth football.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Don't know if any of the current crop of young players are worthy of a first team start because I haven't seen them play, a situation I fully intend to rectify when they play Borussia Dortmund on the 7th of February .... at a fiver to get in and the opposition being one of Europe's biggest clubs I'm sort of hoping for a crowd approaching 10,000 ... If our women's team can get near that, even if it was free to get in, then I can't see why this game cant come close at a mere £5 .... if it's promoted properly.

In just the week past I've seen a 17 year old score in the English championship and a ( barely ) 17 year old Scot play twice for Liverpool's first team, looks a cracking wee player by the way, but that being the case at what point will Hibs acknowledge the 'if your good enough your old enough' adage, if some of our youngsters are as good as the results they get seem to indicate and from the feedback of some on here who have actually seen them play it seems strange that we haven't seen at least one of them given a chance on the park.

[superfurryhibby]

We don’t have a history of holding young players back but we do have a history of fans putting unrealistic expectations on young players based solely on their performances in youth football.

Maybe, that's not what's being discussed. Said young players are out of contract this summer and may well leave the club. What's your thoughts on that?

[CapitalGreen]

Maybe, that's not what's being discussed. Said young players are out of contract this summer and may well leave the club. What's your thoughts on that?

I’d be wary of being held to ransom for young players who can’t break into a terrible Hibs team. O’Connor is 19 in the Summer and in my opinion isn’t anything special. Laidlaw definitely has potential and having just turned 18, I’d like to see him kept on to continue his development but potential is still all it is, he’s yet to establish himself in the first team.

People have complained about other players blocking the path to the first team for younger players but if the likes of O’Connor is given a long contract and doesn’t develop into a first team player, will he then be blocking the pathway for the likes of Landers coming through after him?

[Danderhall Hibs]

I’d be wary of being held to ransom for young players who can’t break into a terrible Hibs team. O’Connor is 19 in the Summer and in my opinion isn’t anything special. Laidlaw definitely has potential and having just turned 18, I’d like to see him kept on to continue his development but potential is still all it is, he’s yet to establish himself in the first team.

People have complained about other players blocking the path to the first team for younger players but if the likes of O’Connor is given a long contract and doesn’t develop into a first team player, will he then be blocking the pathway for the likes of Landers coming through after him?

Agreed. Is it really being suggested we should offer great contracts to these guys? They've got to be assessed and if good enough they'll get an offer based on their status in the squad, i.e. squad/fringe player.

[The Modfather]

We don’t have a history of holding young players back but we do have a history of fans putting unrealistic expectations on young players based solely on their performances in youth football.

I’d disagree. I’ve put up the study before that showed the number of debuts given and minutes player from 2009 - 2019 for homegrown players. We compared badly, particularly in minutes played, with Rangers, Celtc, Hearts, Aberdeen & Dundee Utd. I wouldn’t have thought since 2019 we’d fare any better.

Yes there’s not anyone we’ve let go that we’ve really regretted without going back to Booth, Wotherspoon & maybe Sean Welsh who went on to have solid careers. My gripe is how many players have we brought in to simply make up the numbers and at times play players out of position rather than use them. Off the top of my head Nelom, Eckersley, Eardley, Big Dave, Darnell Johnson, Nathan Wood, Bojang etc etc. That’s not even including players we signed who have simply offered nothing McKirdy, Tavares, Melkerson etc. We should be padding our squad out with our own youngsters and putting the money we spend on the type of signings mentioned above (Nelom etc) on a stronger starting 11.

[KWJ]

I'm a bit surprised that we've not loaned out more of these youngsters. It's good having them together for this tournament but at 18 O'Connor should be getting some first team action.

I can't think of many of our young players that've come through and done well without first having a loan spell. Campbell, Porteous, Doig and then back to the likes of Shaw, Murray and Stanton. Harris done well without one before his injury and so did Cummings but he didn't exactly hit the ground running.

Doig, Porteous and Campbell all clearly benefitted from their loan.

[scoopyboy]

I'm a bit surprised that we've not loaned out more of these youngsters. It's good having them together for this tournament but at 18 O'Connor should be getting some first team action.

I can't think of many of our young players that've come through and done well without first having a loan spell. Campbell, Porteous, Doig and then back to the likes of Shaw, Murray and Stanton. Harris done well without one before his injury and so did Cummings but he didn't exactly hit the ground running.

Doig, Porteous and Campbell all clearly benefitted from their loan.

If we put them out on loan then they can't play in the UEFA Youth League.

The laddies deserve the chance to continue their European run.

[The Modfather]

If we put them out on loan then they can't play in the UEFA Youth League.

The laddies deserve the chance to continue their European run.

Is the European run, as impressive as it is, and little other games enough for their development? Or would they develop more playing a seasons worth of first team football? Genuine questions, as I don’t know the answers.

My worry is that there’s an element of vanity in having a team doing well in Europe rather than it being the best option for their development this season.

[scoopyboy]

Is the European run, as impressive as it is, and little other games enough for their development? Or would they develop more playing a seasons worth of first team football? Genuine questions, as I don’t know the answers.

My worry is that there’s an element of vanity in having a team doing well in Europe rather than it being the best option for their development this season.

Very good points.

I'm pretty sure Hibs had hoped for far more fixtures, the Reserve League has been a flop.

Friendlies have been arranged to try and keep the players involved but it's not the same as regular competition.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Is the European run, as impressive as it is, and little other games enough for their development? Or would they develop more playing a seasons worth of first team football? Genuine questions, as I don’t know the answers.

My worry is that there’s an element of vanity in having a team doing well in Europe rather than it being the best option for their development this season.

It’s a far point. They’ve not gone on loan to basically play 4 games in Europe .

[B.H.F.C]

Very good points.

I'm pretty sure Hibs had hoped for far more fixtures, the Reserve League has been a flop.

Friendlies have been arranged to try and keep the players involved but it's not the same as regular competition.

If/when they are knocked out of Europe I think I’m right in saying lower league clubs can still take players on loan after the window closes.

Has to be questions about how much closer these lads are to the first team than they were at the start of the season though.

[Greenbeard]

It’s a far point. They’ve not gone on loan to basically play 4 games in Europe .
I suspect that if you canvassed the players a significant majority would be in favour of staying together as a team in Europe for as long as possible instead of going on loan to a club down the pyramid. It's a UEFA Champions League. Very little chance of any of them getting the opportunity to do that at first team level. What an experience for them.
Carpe Diem. (And no, he's not the latest development team signing from Europe!)

[The dalmeny]

It’s a far point. They’ve not gone on loan to basically play 4 games in Europe .


Is this a hibs decision?

[scoopyboy]

If/when they are knocked out of Europe I think I’m right in saying lower league clubs can still take players on loan after the window closes.

Has to be questions about how much closer these lads are to the first team than they were at the start of the season though.

I've not seen enough of them to answer that but I think it's fair to say Ethan Laidlaw is coming on leaps and bounds.

Guys like Brooster who have seen lots of games this season would be in a better place than me to comment.

[Smartie]

I’d disagree. I’ve put up the study before that showed the number of debuts given and minutes player from 2009 - 2019 for homegrown players. We compared badly, particularly in minutes played, with Rangers, Celtc, Hearts, Aberdeen & Dundee Utd. I wouldn’t have thought since 2019 we’d fare any better.

Yes there’s not anyone we’ve let go that we’ve really regretted without going back to Booth, Wotherspoon & maybe Sean Welsh who went on to have solid careers. My gripe is how many players have we brought in to simply make up the numbers and at times play players out of position rather than use them. Off the top of my head Nelom, Eckersley, Eardley, Big Dave, Darnell Johnson, Nathan Wood, Bojang etc etc. That’s not even including players we signed who have simply offered nothing McKirdy, Tavares, Melkerson etc. We should be padding our squad out with our own youngsters and putting the money we spend on the type of signings mentioned above (Nelom etc) on a stronger starting 11.

I remember Darren Dods first getting a run in the Hibs first team and looking totally out of his depth. Looked like he would never make it. For some reason he seemed to keep getting opportunities and eventually he adapted and looked ok. His wasn't the most glittering career but it was a long one and one that involved a lot of games at the top level in Scotland. He hugely benefitted from having a number of opportunities to learn and adapt.

Would the golden generation have achieved what they did if they hadn't been at Hibs at a time when we were getting rid of all our high earners and they were pitched into the first team, having to play every week, learn and adapt? I don't think they would.

Josh Campbell looks much more suited to our level now than he did a year ago.


These examples just make me wonder about the number of players we've had at critical stages in their development and not given opportunities to, arguably correctly because we maybe had better options at the time, but who were maybe deprived of the opportunity at that critical stage? How differently might things have worked out for them if a senior player had an inopportune injury and the manager had no option other than to throw the youngster in for a dozen games in a row?

And how many of those we might have now, or have over the next few years?

I think it was Paul Merson's book I read where he highlights how he got his chance at Arsenal and mentions how much luck has to play in getting an opportunity and then how hard you have to work and again, enjoy a bit of luck, in order to stay there.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I suspect that if you canvassed the players a significant majority would be in favour of staying together as a team in Europe for as long as possible instead of going on loan to a club down the pyramid. It's a UEFA Champions League. Very little chance of any of them getting the opportunity to do that at first team level. What an experience for them.
Carpe Diem. (And no, he's not the latest development team signing from Europe!)

They’d be silly to complain about a non generous contract though given they’ve effectively lost 6 months (and counting) of development at a crucial, if not the most crucial, stage of their career.

[The dalmeny]

I suspect that if you canvassed the players a significant majority would be in favour of staying together as a team in Europe for as long as possible instead of going on loan to a club down the pyramid. It's a UEFA Champions League. Very little chance of any of them getting the opportunity to do that at first team level. What an experience for them.
Carpe Diem. (And no, he's not the latest development team signing from Europe!)

they would train together during the week bar a day they went to their loan club and play as a team in the reserve league or bounce fixtures then be in their loan team squad at the weekend. Hardly split up.

[CL0762]

If/when they are knocked out of Europe I think I’m right in saying lower league clubs can still take players on loan after the window closes.

Has to be questions about how much closer these lads are to the first team than they were at the start of the season though.

Alongside Ethan Laidlaw and Josh O’Connor, Connor was one of the strikers that did well last season, and his departure allows those two to have a clearer pathway towards the First Team.

“We’re really excited about the potential that Ethan and Josh have. Ethan was away with Scotland’s Under-17s this summer for the Euros, and Josh made a cameo appearance for the First Team last season away at Aberdeen. They’re both pacey strikers that love to get in-behind defences and cause opposition players problems.

“We received a very good amount for Connor, alongside his sell-on, and that allows us to give more opportunities to Ethan and Josh. We have a strong belief that if they can continue their upward trajectory, they have every chance to be First Team players in the future.”

Steve Kean’s words when Connor Young was sold to Rangers.

There has been absolutely zero pathway towards the first team. Ethan was part of first team squads 2 years ago when we were going for 3rd, yet can’t make a squad when we’ve been toiling? He was making squads when we had Nisbet, Doidge & Boyle firing on all cylinders.

I’m not for a moment advocating either Josh or Ethan should be in the squads, but from what I’ve seen of them, we wouldn’t have been any worse off by even including them in the squad and getting maybe 5/10 mins here and there to give them a taste for it.

[McD]

they would train together during the week bar a day they went to their loan club and play as a team in the reserve league or bounce fixtures then be in their loan team squad at the weekend. Hardly split up.


no one has mentioned splitting up as an issue. If they went on loan, they wouldn’t be able to play in the European games that they earned by winning the league last year.

[The dalmeny]

no one has mentioned splitting up as an issue. If they went on loan, they wouldn’t be able to play in the European games that they earned by winning the league last year.

How, is this a uefa rule, I didn't see a response when I queried this earlier. Maybe I missed it .

[Unseen work]

Laidlaw only turned 18 two weeks ago.

Still very young with loads of development and growing to do.

Is it fair chucking him into a side that’s struggling and when fans are
Impatient?

We’ve seen/heard of loads of young players coming through over the years like Byrne, Ross Campbell etc they were scoring but looked miles off it in the first team.

I think Johnson would quite happily play a young player if he thought he was ready, I also think he’s the type that would understand that fans would love seeing it and might gain him credit.

Let’s get Laidlaw and the other lads tied down on contracts and drip feed them into the first team. Will they go anywhere else and get a game at this age? I doubt it.

[Slim Shady]

This season has been a disaster for youth players bar the Euro run.

Our young players who are knocking on the door of being involved in the first have had very little match time. There is no competitive fixtures for them to compete In and they’ve not been allowed to head out on loan. Some of them see it as a wasted year.

Hibs are the only team In SPL not to have played a 16/17/18 year old this season.

I’d rather see laidlaws / Macintyre’s come in and make mistakes and develop into a first team regular than watch the likes of Henderson pussy foot about getting pushed off the ball and misplace passes all day.

[HIBS NUTS]

The young players don’t have to start games, but i think most fans would rather see a cameo appearance for the last 10 minutes from these players, than some of the incumbents on our bench this season.
Especially a forward, he’s gone but what did Bojang offer that laidlaw couldn’t.

[SaulGoodman]

Especially a forward, he’s gone but what did Bojang offer that laidlaw couldn’t.

Set his head on fire and walk about with his mini Bojang out.

[Greenbeard]

They’d be silly to complain about a non generous contract though given they’ve effectively lost 6 months (and counting) of development at a crucial, if not the most crucial, stage of their career.
I'd argue that the experience they have gained from their five (and counting) ties in Europe does as much for their development as playing for Edinburgh City or Stirling Albion.

[HIBS NUTS]

Set his head on fire and walk about with his mini Bojang out.

Port seaton is a wild and crazy place, they need no encouragement down there. 😄

[The dalmeny]

I'd argue that the experience they have gained from their five (and counting) ties in Europe does as much for their development as playing for Edinburgh City or Stirling Albion.

How? they are playing with and against other youths

[Greenbeard]

How? they are playing with and against other youths
A young player's overall development is not just about what happens on the pitch for 90 mins.

[scoopyboy]

How? they are playing with and against other youths

Not when they are playing in friendlies / development games.

[The dalmeny]

A young player's overall development is not just about what happens on the pitch for 90 mins.

But the majority of their training regime remains unchanged unless they go on loan to another full time team (or a distance away) probably

[Danderhall Hibs]

I'd argue that the experience they have gained from their five (and counting) ties in Europe does as much for their development as playing for Edinburgh City or Stirling Albion.

Is it 5? Soon to be 7 then. Still not many games at a crucial stage of their career.

I guess we’ll see if it was the right thing in a few years when we look back and see how many “make it”

[Onceinawhile]

Is it 5? Soon to be 7 then. Still not many games at a crucial stage of their career.

I guess we’ll see if it was the right thing in a few years when we look back and see how many “make it”

Are you that confident about beating Borussia?!

[Brightside]

Is it 5? Soon to be 7 then. Still not many games at a crucial stage of their career.

I guess we’ll see if it was the right thing in a few years when we look back and see how many “make it”

soon to be 6. Next game is one leg I think.

[scoopyboy]

soon to be 6. Next game is one leg I think.

Soon to be 5.

Played Molde and Nantes home and away.

Dortmund as you say is a one leg.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Cheers guys - so they’ve played 4 and now have a 1 legger.

5 games in 6/7 months basically.

[CapitalGreen]

Cheers guys - so they’ve played 4 and now have a 1 legger.

5 games in 6/7 months basically.

+ 6 games at the Algarve Cup + 6 domestic fixtures + a number of friendlies

[Danderhall Hibs]

+ 6 games at the Algarve Cup + 6 domestic fixtures + a number of friendlies

Cheers - were they under 19s or the development team games?

I’m not sure friendlies are as useful as any competitive games they could’ve played. i can see why players could be frustrated, although if they’ve prioritised the 5 European games the lack of games is a consequence of the choice they’ve made.

[bbtj04]

If we put them out on loan then they can't play in the UEFA Youth League.

The laddies deserve the chance to continue their European run.

Colin Nish at Tranent is very keen to take a few young players on loan if their European experience ends beginning of February.

The Lowland League would be great for these players, especially playing on a surface like they have at Foresters.

[Billy Whizz]

Colin Nish at Tranent is very keen to take a few young players on loan if their European experience ends beginning of February.

The Lowland League would be great for these players, especially playing on a surface like they have at Foresters.

Colin probably knows most of them as well, would be a good fit
Tranent going for promotion too

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Colin probably knows most of them as well, would be a good fit
Tranent going for promotion too

Nishy is their old coach? Would make perfect sense

[CapitalGreen]

Cheers - were they under 19s or the development team games?

I’m not sure friendlies are as useful as any competitive games they could’ve played. i can see why players could be frustrated, although if they’ve prioritised the 5 European games the lack of games is a consequence of the choice they’ve made.

It’s essentially been the same thing, with the exception of Balde the over 19 development team players have all been on full time loans.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Nishy is their old coach? Would make perfect sense

If it makes sense for them to play Liwland League why didn’t we just put a team in there ourselves?

[Danderhall Hibs]

It’s essentially been the same thing, with the exception of Balde the over 19 development team players have all been on full time loans.

I think the whole development team has been a big misnomer.

[The dalmeny]

Colin Nish at Tranent is very keen to take a few young players on loan if their European experience ends beginning of February.

The Lowland League would be great for these players, especially playing on a surface like they have at Foresters.

I don't know why they can't play in the uefa and be on loan

[davhibby]

If it makes sense for them to play Liwland League why didn’t we just put a team in there ourselves?

Sending anyone over the age of 17 to the Lowland League would be a waste of time. The standard isn’t good enough.

The only reason Rangers and Celtic have teams there is to try and force their way in to the SPFL.

[King conrad]

Sending anyone over the age of 17 to the Lowland League would be a waste of time. The standard isn’t good enough.

The only reason Rangers and Celtic have teams there is to try and force their way in to the SPFL.

Hearts currently sitting in 13th position, It wouldn't be easy for our young players

[Danderhall Hibs]

Sending anyone over the age of 17 to the Lowland League would be a waste of time. The standard isn’t good enough.

The only reason Rangers and Celtic have teams there is to try and force their way in to the SPFL.

I don’t disagree. Just someone suggested it now we’ve found ourselves with a team and hardly any games.

[truehibernian]

Colin probably knows most of them as well, would be a good fit
Tranent going for promotion too

Nishy looked fitter than half our strikers last time I saw him in Musselburgh 😀 I’d give him a pay as you play deal 😂

[Brooster]

Cheers guys - so they’ve played 4 and now have a 1 legger.

5 games in 6/7 months basically.

5 or 6 of the 19s still play u18. The rest are playing for the Development team. Most are playing every week.

[truehibernian]

5 or 6 of the 19s still play u18. The rest are playing for the Development team. Most are playing every week.

Would you throw in Ethan and Oscar at the weekend Brooster ?

I’d certainly have MacIntyre starting and have EL on the bench.

[Danderhall Hibs]

5 or 6 of the 19s still play u18. The rest are playing for the Development team. Most are playing every week.

Who have the development team been playing against mate?

[The dalmeny]

7238947 (tel:7238947)[/URL]]Sending anyone over the age of 17 to the Lowland League would be a waste of time. The standard isn’t good enough.

The only reason Rangers and Celtic have teams there is to try and force their way in to the SPFL.


Celtic b got pumped by Gala on Saturday 4-2, but beat wolves in a game 4-0 midweek, I wonder which standard isn’t good enough

[McD]

How, is this a uefa rule, I didn't see a response when I queried this earlier. Maybe I missed it .


i think it’s to do with the players registration. They’d be registered as a player at the loan club, meaning they can’t play in official fixtures for Hibs. Even at a part time club, where they still train with Hibs, they can’t play official fixtures. Wouldn’t be able to play in the reserve cup either I don’t think.

[Ozyhibby]

https://t.co/5YE89BNPUm

Article on development here. Hibs score well.


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[Greenbeard]

https://t.co/5YE89BNPUm

Article on development here. Hibs score well.


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Good share.
So we have used club-trained players (defined as a player who has been at the club for at least three years between ages 15-21) at double the rate of the second highest club Celtic. Looking forward to the naysayers finding fault with this.

"At the top of the Premiership list is Hibernian, who have used club-trained players in more than a quarter of their minutes this season, Celtic were second on 13.7% while Kilmarnock and Rangers were joint-third on 10.5%."

[GreenCastle]

Good share.
So we have used club-trained players (defined as a player who has been at the club for at least three years between ages 15-21) at double the rate of the second highest club Celtic. Looking forward to the naysayers finding fault with this.

"At the top of the Premiership list is Hibernian, who have used club-trained players in more than a quarter of their minutes this season, Celtic were second on 13.7% while Kilmarnock and Rangers were joint-third on 10.5%."




Who are the players ?

I would imagine Porto as he plays regularly and Doig ?

Anyone else ?

[Not In The Know]

Good share.
So we have used club-trained players (defined as a player who has been at the club for at least three years between ages 15-21) at double the rate of the second highest club Celtic. Looking forward to the naysayers finding fault with this.

"At the top of the Premiership list is Hibernian, who have used club-trained players in more than a quarter of their minutes this season, Celtic were second on 13.7% while Kilmarnock and Rangers were joint-third on 10.5%."





Thats a pretty amazing stat TBH. Id imagine its a bit skewed by still having Hanlon and Stevenson in the team. BUT we are about to see a few Dev team players make a breakthrough, hopefully that will only improve the stats.

Its also a great tool to use when talking to parents of younger players.

[basehibby]

Who are the players ?

I would imagine Porto as he plays regularly and Doig ?

Anyone else ?
Hanlon Stevenson & Campbell would all count. Can't think of any others that have featured but adds up to 4 1st team regulars so the 25% figure does make sense.

[KWJ]

Hanlon Stevenson & Campbell would all count. Can't think of any others that have featured but adds up to 4 1st team regulars so the 25% figure does make sense.

Yeah, while it's accurate, it really skews the numbers to include Hanlon and Stevenson who benefitted from our Youth training and management over a decade ago.

I agree with some of the posts before about players maybe not being ready but if the potential is there then sometimes playing a young guy ahead of an average first teamer is going to help in the long run. Guys like Campbell, Allen and Gullane got a crack at the whip but didn't do enough and have so far shown that we were right to let them go. This young bunch don't seem to have been given such a shot, which seems even more peculiar when they've done so well at their age group and the team is midtable.

[Billy Whizz]

1-0 Hibs after 10 mins, Laidlaw
I’m presuming it’s the under 19 team who are playing today

[Brightside]

1-0 Hibs after 10 mins, Laidlaw
I’m presuming it’s the under 19 team who are playing today

Yes. but livi have about 4/5 first teamers.

[HIBS NUTS]

1-0 Hibs after 10 mins, Laidlaw
I’m presuming it’s the under 19 team who are playing today

What was final score, had to miss again, family problems.

[Blaster]

Currently 3-0

[HIBS NUTS]

Brilliant 👍🏻thanks

[Postiga]

Any idea who got the second and third goal?

[Postiga]

3-1, 90th min.

[Postiga]

3-1, 90th min.

[04Sauzee]

Yes. but livi have about 4/5 first teamers.

Great result any idea who the 1st teamers were for Livi?

Edit ... Just seen this

Half time - Hibs 1, Livi 0. Strong Livi side as well: Obileye, Goncalves, Cancar, De Lucas and Guthrie all playing

[CapitalGreen]

Any idea who got the second and third goal?

O’Connor double

[Since452]

O'Connor and Laidlaw seem to know where the back of the net is. Hopefully they get some of the first team game time the likes of McKirdy keeps wasting. They must be wondering what they have to do.

[Brightside]

O’Connor double

Hamiton & OConnor

[HIBS NUTS]

That’s a great result against that livi team.

[Tambo]

Is Rudi injured? Not seen him name recently.

[yerauldda]

Need to find a way to start getting these guys involved, they're clearly standouts at their age group.
Laidlaw in particular seems to have progressed well this season.

I was watching Laidlaw and McIntyre at half time and they're beginning to really fill out. Get them in.

[Brightside]

Is Rudi injured? Not seen him name recently.

he came off the bench I think. Im sure that was him wearing 15.

[Unseen work]

O’Connor is rapid and would probably be a threat in the first team for his pace alone.

For his goal last night it was Boyle esque and against Obileye who was playing for them.

He absolutely burned him, rounded the keeper and scored from a right angle

[Greenbeard]

Bumped for some positivity in a .net thread.
Looking forward to the Dortmund game Tuesday 7 Feb.
Get your £5 ticket bought.
Win or lose this team has done the club proud and enhanced our reputation in European eyes as a club that can produce good young players.

[marinello59]

Bumped for some positivity in a .net thread.
Looking forward to the Dortmund game Tuesday 7 Feb.
Get your £5 ticket bought.
Win or lose this team has done the club proud and enhanced our reputation in European eyes as a club that can produce good young players.

:agree:
Really looking forward to this one.

[04Sauzee]

Be interesting to see the team line up with the Aberdeen game tomorrow.

[HIBS NUTS]

Be interesting to see the team line up with the Aberdeen game tomorrow.

What time and day is the game .?

[Fanforlife]

Under 18,s v Hearts at EM tonight,7pm KO.

[HIBS NUTS]

Under 18,s v Hearts at EM tonight,7pm KO.

brilliant i will pop in

[Ronniekirk]

Under 18,s v Hearts at EM tonight,7pm KO.

if L J is including five of them in tomorrows squad would assume those five wouldn’t be playing tonight

[scoopyboy]

if L J is including five of them in tomorrows squad would assume those five wouldn’t be playing tonight

Ethan Laidlaw is the only one who could play tomorrow that would possibly feature tonight.

The others are in the under 19 team as opposed to tonights under 18 fixture.

[Ronniekirk]

Ethan Laidlaw is the only one who could play tomorrow that would possibly feature tonight.

The others are in the under 19 team as opposed to tonights under 18 fixture.
Cheers

[Brooster]

1 nil Hibs ht.

[HIBS NUTS]

Hibs 1-0 hearts HT under 18
Brilliant goal

[Brooster]

2 nil another great strike

[scoopyboy]

Brooster has messaged to say Hearts pulled it back to 2-1 but Hibs have added another two so it's 4-1. Poor chap is frozen and will probably update when he gets home.

[GloryGlory]

FT 4-2

https://twitter.com/p_mcpartlin/status/1619076974382833664

[brog]

Excellent!! Well done boys!!

[Brooster]

Finished 4-2. Hibs by far the better team in the 2nd half. Clelland (just turned 15 a few weeks back), Bulloch x2 and Malitnikov. Well done lads.

[Bridge hibs]

Finished 4-2. Hibs by far the better team in the 2nd half. Clelland (just turned 15 a few weeks back), Bulloch x2 and Malitnikov. Well done lads.Thanks for the updates Brooster 👍

[HIBS NUTS]

Brooster has messaged to say Hearts pulled it back to 2-1 but Hibs have added another two so it's 4-1. Poor chap is frozen and will probably update when he gets home.

4-2 hibs
hearts scored near the end

[GreenCastle]

Does Reuben McAllister play for this team ?

Any update how he is doing ?

[CapitalGreen]

Does Reuben McAllister play for this team ?

Any update how he is doing ?

Yes, he started tonight

Owens, Wright, Khan, Hastie, Waugh, J MacIntyre, McAllister, Cleland, McGarva, Molotnikov, Bulloch.

[Brooster]

Does Reuben McAllister play for this team ?

Any update how he is doing ?

He's really settling in after a slow start. I think the pace of the game up here caught him out at first.

[JimBHibees]

Great result good to hear

[GreenCastle]

He's really settling in after a slow start. I think the pace of the game up here caught him out at first.

Nice to hear.

Also good to hear Hearts at any level.

Small gains and all that.

[HIBS NUTS]

Does Reuben McAllister play for this team ?

Any update how he is doing ?

definitely one of the better players.

[Tambo]

Rudi!!

[Greencore]

Malek Zaid signs until 2025.

[yerauldda]

Malek Zaid signs until 2025.

Looks like a very gifted football player. Hopefully continues to develop physically.

[Greencore]

Looks like a very gifted football player. Hopefully continues to develop physically.

I've heard rudi is meant to be a good player.

[Gmack7]

Malek Zaid signs until 2025.

Hope a few others sign extensions

[Brooster]

Murray Aiken won't be signing I don't think.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Just had a look at ticket sales for Dortmund game, very slow so far. But FF Lower central block now opened, presumably singing section/Block 7 will be situated here again.

[hhibs]

Just had a look at ticket sales for Dortmund game, very slow so far. But FF Lower central block now opened, presumably singing section/Block 7 will be situated here again.


What is the date and time?

I looked on website but could not find it,it must be there but I must of missed it.

[chippy]

Murray Aiken won't be signing I don't think.
Why not?

[Billy Whizz]

Why not?

Don’t know, but presume he’s not happy with his pathway at Hibs

[Hibees1973]

Don’t know, but presume he’s not happy with his pathway at Hibs

The huge influx of bog standard players signed by Ron's son definitely appears to have blocked the pathway for many of our U-18s.

Only after loads of the dross has been shipped/loaned out did we see more than just the odd one in the squad yesterday.

Know the structure at Hibs is being overhauled but it may be too late for us to secure the likes of O'Connor, Laidlaw, Aitken, etc on long term deals. Surely the likes of these guys will be offered deals but it will be revealing and possibly a reflection on what is going on a Hibs if these guys remain for the long term.

O'Connor contributed more in 20 mins yesterday than the likes of Bojang, Mitchell and loads of others who are no longer here.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

What is the date and time?

I looked on website but could not find it,it must be there but I must of missed it.

A week Tuesday, 7pm KO.

[Greenbeard]

What is the date and time?

I looked on website but could not find it,it must be there but I must of missed it.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/

Click on "Buy Tickets" top right and it should take you right to the Dortmund game.

[greenlex]

Why not?
He’s leaving this window.:dunno:

[hhibs]

A week Tuesday, 7pm KO.


Thanks

[hhibs]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/

Click on "Buy Tickets" top right and it should take you right to the Dortmund game.



Thanks.

[superfurryhibby]

Don’t know, but presume he’s not happy with his pathway at Hibs

18 year old and never kicked a ball at any level of the game apart from youth team. Sounds like a typically over entitled youth of the £current juve generation.

[norwayhibs]

I know a fair few Dortmund supporters (from different uk Bvb supporter Clubs )have bought tickets

[Potty78]

18 year old and never kicked a ball at any level of the game apart from youth team. Sounds like a typically over entitled youth of the £current juve generation.

U know him well🤦*♂️ him and a few others ain't been offered contracts yet, maybe we're too late but dont comment on a situation and a young lad u no nothing about 👍🏻

[scoopyboy]

U know him well🤦*♂️ him and a few others ain't been offered contracts yet, maybe we're too late but dont comment on a situation and a young lad u no nothing about 👍🏻

What makes you think they haven't been offered contracts?

[Potty78]

What makes you think they haven't been offered contracts?

I don't being honest, but a few out of contract and attracting interest from elsewhere. My comment was more about the comment above.

[superfurryhibby]

U know him well🤦*♂️ him and a few others ain't been offered contracts yet, maybe we're too late but dont comment on a situation and a young lad u no nothing about 👍🏻

Why not?

The first part is correct, the second part is mild sarcasm. Imagine a hibs net where no one, including you ( by your own admission) comments on things they know nothing about

[LunasBoots]

I don't being honest, but a few out of contract and attracting interest from elsewhere. My comment was more about the comment above.

Yup, when young teams in Scotland do well the players are scouted and often lured by bigger clubs, happens more than people realise.

[Potty78]

Why not?

The first part is correct, the second part is mild sarcasm. Imagine a hibs net where no one, including you ( by your own admission) comments on things they know nothing about

Yet your first comment ain't true? I was just sticking up for a young kid who I know. No harm meant👍🏻

[superfurryhibby]

Yet your first comment ain't true? I was just sticking up for a young kid who I know. No harm meant👍🏻

My “source” got that wrong, Aitken has played for 24 minutes for the Hibs first team.

If you know him, fair enough. I’m sure he’s a good lad.

My feeling is that any young player, currently at Hibs, who is going to make a good living from the game would be well advised to stick around ER . I’m struggling to think of many/ any youngsters who have gone elsewhere at 18-19 ( mostly freed I suppose) and done that.

[The dalmeny]

I've heard rudi is meant to be a good player.

wasn’t that meant to say “well done Malek, that’s great news “

[scoopyboy]

Malek Zaid signs until 2025.

Great to hear, personally I think the more that sign will encourage the others to do so.

I hope that's the way it pans out anyway.

[Fanforlife]

Under 18,s have a game v Hamilton at HTC tonight ,7pm KO.

[HIBS NUTS]

yip should be a decent night for it. 👍🏻

[tbfhibs2]

1-0 Hibs, 17 minutes

[Brooster]

1 nil Hibs, Landers. None of the 19s playing. Very young side.

[04Sauzee]

1 nil Hibs, Landers. None of the 19s playing. Very young side.

Jeezo he's a 2007, I feel very old.

[Bayern Bru]

.

[brog]

Any Update? Young Landers seems a fine prospect.

[Brooster]

Finished 1 nil Hibs. Great result against a good team.

[brog]

Finished 1 nil Hibs. Great result against a good team.


Thanks!

[Fanforlife]

Good physical game tonight ,thought Hibs handled it well.

[The Harp Awakes]

Good physical game tonight ,thought Hibs handled it well.

Was it a league game tonight and if so, does anyone have a link to the league table?

[Ringothedog]

Was it a league game tonight and if so, does anyone have a link to the league table?

I was thinking the same, couldn’t find one but from what I can work out we are 8 points behind Celtic, 6 points behind Hamilton,5 points behind Rangers, 5 behind Motherwell,1 point behind Aberdeen, 11 points ahead of Hearts, 13 ahead of St Mirren, 19 points ahead of Dundee United

[brydekirk]

Is Tuesdays game against Dortmond on TV anywhere?
Cheers

[oneone73]

Is Tuesdays game against Dortmond on TV anywhere?
Cheers

BT Sport 2

[HIBS NUTS]

Is Tuesdays game against Dortmond on TV anywhere?
Cheers

BT SPORT 2 7pm

[tbfhibs2]

Celtic. 16 10 1 5 45 28 17 31 pts
Hamilton 15 9 2 4 32 28 4 29 pts
Motherwell 15 8 4 3 40 22 18 28 pts
Rangers 16 8 2 6 42 31 11 26 pts
Aberdeen 14 7 3 4 49 30 19 24 pts
Hibernian 15 7 2 6 30 25 4 23 pts
Hearts 16 2 5 9 20 39 -19 11 pts
St Mirren 13 3 1 9 24 51 -27 10 pts
Dundee Utd ?
Not sure how up to date this is.

[Garymcl]

Just got tickets for Dortmund game cmon the young boys in green 🇳🇬

[McD]

Just got tickets for Dortmund game cmon the young boys in green 🇳🇬


was there a lot of tickets left?

I got mine a few weeks ago, would have been there with my old man but a hip replacement op since then has put paid to him being able to go so taking a mate with me instead

[HH81]

See selling a program and all profits to the youth teams.

Hope they sell them out.

[tbfhibs2]

Good luck to the 18’s tonight against Dundee United, any updates would be great 👍🏼

[Northernhibee]

Good luck to the 18’s tonight against Dundee United, any updates would be great 👍🏼
1-1, just arrived. Live ten minutes away. Don’t know who scored, but United scored first.

[Northernhibee]

1-1 HT. Started off at a frenetic pace but now the ball is on the ground a bit more, Hibs the better team.

[Northernhibee]

3-1 United. Scored directly from a FK then conceded a penalty all of ninety seconds later. Very poor start but playing decent football again.

[tbfhibs2]

Thanks for the update, come on lads

[Northernhibee]

Thanks for the update, come on lads
FT, 3-1. Could have been more if not got a great save from the Hibs goalie.

United look a very well coached team with some good players and we were shooting into the wind in the second half. If we’d kept it tight for the first ten minutes of the second half it may have been a different story but to concede two goals very little into the second half was always asking a lot of the team.

[Onceinawhile]

Steve kean out.

[Fanforlife]

1-1, just arrived. Live ten minutes away. Don’t know who scored, but United scored first.
Just been told it was Harry Wright scored for Hibs.

[Billy Whizz]

Hibs playing Dundee tomorrow in the reserve league
2pm KO at East Mains

Wonder what sort of team we’ll have out

[DaveF]

Just been told it was Harry Wright scored for Hibs.

A few more required to catch his old man but great that father and son have scored for Hibs.

[HIBS NUTS]

A few more required to catch his old man but great that father and son have scored for Hibs.

didnt realise i was keiths son.

[scoopyboy]

didnt realise i was keiths son.

I don't think you are:greengrin

[HIBS NUTS]

I don't think you are:greengrin

no chance, i’ve not got red hair. 😄