Is there a chance the League Cup final will be played behind closed doors?

[He's here!]

Listening to John Swinney this morning saying that the Scottish government are discussing bringing in yet more restrictions next week to limit the rapid spread of the Omicron variant do you think football is going to get affected again? I hope I'm wrong, but I've got a feeling we might see curbs introduced on crowd numbers.

[Pretty Boy]

I think it's a near certainty.

Hopefully they give us plenty notice and not an announcement sometime on Friday.

[Sir David Gray]

Yes I think it's almost definitely going to happen unless they decide to postpone it until some time in the spring.

[Onceinawhile]

Its certainly a possibility.

[SteveHFC]

Yes I think it's almost definitely going to happen unless they decide to postpone it until some time in the spring.

Wonder if some people will asks for refunds on season tickets if you can’t get into games.

[Sir David Gray]

Wonder if some people will asks for refunds on season tickets if you can’t get into games.

They might ask but I doubt if they'll get anywhere with Hibs TV being available. I don't think the club will pay refunds on that basis.

[Lee Marvin]

I'd be amazed if we have any fans there after listening to the mood music over the last couple of days.

Hibs could lose so much money from a move to play behind closed doors. Worrying

[NAE NOOKIE]

Wonder if some people will asks for refunds on season tickets if you can’t get into games.

Never mind season tickets, If the final is played behind closed doors it's going to be a logistical nightmare to reimburse fans who have paid for tickets, especially those who paid cash like I did for the 6 I bought and before there's any mention of the tickets having anything about closed doors on the Ts & Cs you cant read Ts & Cs on a ticket you weren't given on the day you paid for it and in my case still haven't got.

If fans were to be excluded then the only alternative is to play the game when it's safer to do so at some point next year .... and at the same time try and get a hold of the idiot at the SPFL who thought it was a good idea to schedule their showpiece game for a week before Christmas in the first place.

[Moulin Yarns]

To answer the question, yes there is a chance. Do I think it will be? NO. (fingers, and everything else crossed)

[H18 SFR]

This thread has me thinking, I’ve not received my ticket yet. Has anyone else?

[LunasBoots]

Fingers crossed not, the rhetoric over the last couple weeks certainly sounds like they are readying the population for it though.

[Since452]

I think the game will be played as normal. Just my opinion.

[nickwhibs]

Hopefully rescheduled rather than played in an empty stadium

[flash]

It will be played next Sunday with a capacity crowd in my humble opinion.

[JoeT]

Will be delayed rather than have no fans. No chance they'll be wanting to give us our cash back

[Sir David Gray]

This thread has me thinking, I’ve not received my ticket yet. Has anyone else?

I got mine the other day.

[LunasBoots]

Im sure the UK goverment said the other day that there next plan would be January 5th, so i'd imagine without the furlough scheme the Scottish Govs hands will be tied until then so i'd imagine we will be ok for the final.

[BigKev]

Professor Jason Leitch thinks it’s definitely going ahead.

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/celtic-hibs-premier-sports-cup-22434045

[Pretty Boy]

Professor Jason Leitch thinks it’s definitely going ahead.

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/celtic-hibs-premier-sports-cup-22434045

He was full of caveats when I heard him.

He said it was going ahead as of today and kept reiterating that point, he used today's date about 5 times so nothing could be taken out of context. . Said he is involved in late night meeting every night to advise and give the govt information to make decisions and he couldn't rule anytbing out.

I normally can't stand him but he spoke well today.

[Seekyit]

Interestingly, the game isn’t listed on Premier Sports next Sunday, going by my Virgin box thing.

[Moulin Yarns]

Interestingly, the game isn’t listed on Premier Sports next Sunday, going by my Virgin box thing.

Yeah. I was looking at the listings, and it's not anywhere on Premier Sports. Still on the website "live football on TV" but it's worrying that the sponsor doesn't have it listed!!!!

[hibee]

I bought 7 tickets over 2 separate transactions and haven’t received any tickets yet.

Surely they won’t change the rules before the game now but the way we are playing the best result we can probably hope for is a refund!

[Glory Lurker]

I think it not being on Premier Sports' own schedule is a big concern, although their summary about the Cup saying it's Sunday still being there gives some hope.

[SaulGoodman]

Hopefully gets re-scheduled to a later date. Let us get some decent players in.

2030 would be nice.

[Glory Lurker]

Hopefully gets re-scheduled to a later date. Let us get some decent players in.

2030 would be nice.

Only if Celtc have to carry forward their injuries.

[Montford]

No.
Celtic will get it postponed. They are probably pushing for it at this very moment
They will whisper in Doncaster’s ear.
Play it at end of March.
Miraculously, Jota, Kyogo, Giomakis, Ralston, Ajeti will be fit by then

[GreenCastle]

I think it will go ahead. Surely they aren’t going to go back to limiting outdoor capacities again.

If they decide to cancel it then surely English stadiums would need to do similar and limit capacities.

[Since90+2]

If I had to guess I'd say it goes ahead as planned but wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't.

[Jamesie]

He was full of caveats when I heard him.

He said it was going ahead as of today and kept reiterating that point, he used today's date about 5 times so nothing could be taken out of context. . Said he is involved in late night meeting every night to advise and give the govt information to make decisions and he couldn't rule anytbing out.

I normally can't stand him but he spoke well today.

Was coming on to say exactly this - in fact his incessant referencing of today’s date made me more convinced it won’t go ahead than I was before I tuned in.

[bingo70]

If there’s no fans allowed next weekend the sponsors might want the game pushed back until such a time there will be a full house?

[A Hi-Bee]

No.
Celtic will get it postponed. They are probably pushing for it at this very moment
They will whisper in Doncaster’s ear.
Play it at end of March.
Miraculously, Jota, Kyogo, Giomakis, Ralston, Ajeti will be fit by then

Yes an we may have a decent team and manager by then, as it stands a smelic reserve side would cuff us.

[Glory Lurker]

I wonder if the rules allow the match to be rescheduled if the government doesn't say it can't be played.

[Keith_M]

I think they should postpone it till March

[Greencore]

Does the game require a vaccine passport?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Does the game require a vaccine passport?

Yeah - over 10k.

[MikeyS]

Does the game require a vaccine passport?

It should do but I'll be amazed if there are any checks carried.

[Helensburghhibs]

It should do but I'll be amazed if there are any checks carried.

No. Rules are now vaccine passport or recent negative LFT

[hibbydog]

Aye it’s a possibility. The new strain is doubling every 2-3 days, which means this time next week there will be 8 times the current infection rates.

Difficult thing to judge is how they restrict things. Most people are vaccinated now, so it’ll be a while until they know about hospitalisations and death rates.

The rhetoric in the meantime is really one of caution. So I think they will start to close things down by the middle of this week.

[DIXIHIBS]

Looks like game has been removed from premier sports schedule for next week. Maybe im reading it wrong though?

[Keith_M]

No.
Celtic will get it postponed. They are probably pushing for it at this very moment
They will whisper in Doncaster’s ear.
Play it at end of March.
Miraculously, Jota, Kyogo, Giomakis, Ralston, Ajeti will be fit by then


I seriously doubt they'd request a postponement for that reason.

Even if they had to play four or five backup players, they'd annihilate us on current form.

[A Hi-Bee]

We should know by Tuesday when they are due to make some big decisions on this virus, or perhaps before then if things keep going the way they go.

[scoopyboy]

I think they should postpone it till March

That would be my bet as opposed to closed doors next weekend.

I still think it will go ahead as planned with capacity attendance.

My personal take is until hospital cases and deaths show a sign of increasing I would leave things as they are.

[Libby Hibby]

Looks like game has been removed from premier sports schedule for next week. Maybe im reading it wrong though?

So it has, good spot.

[B.H.F.C]

I think there is a chance of stadiums being closed in the not too distant future but I think we’ll just about be OK for next week. But Nicola will be asking us to show some common sense and all that.

[Keith_M]

I think there is a chance of stadiums being closed in the not too distant future but I think we’ll just about be OK for next week. But Nicola will be asking us to show some common sense and all that.


TBH, if we did show some common sense, none of us would bother going next week

:wink:

[theonlywayisup]

Latest:

Leitch said that, at present, there are no plans to implement changes to events such as big football matches – while warning, however, that the situation could change.

“On the 11th of December, yes, the cup final is going ahead. Nobody can absolutely guarantee what will happen between this Saturday and next Saturday,” Leitch said on Radio Scotland.

“But now, yes – the cup final is going ahead. My advice to fans is to make sure they do a lateral flow test before they go and I really hope you’re vaccinated.

“We will tell you immediately if we think it has to change. We are watching the data every day.

“For now, and you’ll notice I keep saying the date because I’ve learned when you replay interviews if the date isn’t in them then sometimes people can say you said something different.

“On the 11th of December, yes, the cup final can go ahead.”

[Glory Lurker]

Latest:

Leitch said that, at present, there are no plans to implement changes to events such as big football matches – while warning, however, that the situation could change.

“On the 11th of December, yes, the cup final is going ahead. Nobody can absolutely guarantee what will happen between this Saturday and next Saturday,” Leitch said on Radio Scotland.

“But now, yes – the cup final is going ahead. My advice to fans is to make sure they do a lateral flow test before they go and I really hope you’re vaccinated.

“We will tell you immediately if we think it has to change. We are watching the data every day.

“For now, and you’ll notice I keep saying the date because I’ve learned when you replay interviews if the date isn’t in them then sometimes people can say you said something different.

“On the 11th of December, yes, the cup final can go ahead.”

As Jamesie said, the date stamping makes it sound even more likely we've got a free day next Sunday.

[He's here!]

Latest:

Leitch said that, at present, there are no plans to implement changes to events such as big football matches – while warning, however, that the situation could change.

“On the 11th of December, yes, the cup final is going ahead. Nobody can absolutely guarantee what will happen between this Saturday and next Saturday,” Leitch said on Radio Scotland.

“But now, yes – the cup final is going ahead. My advice to fans is to make sure they do a lateral flow test before they go and I really hope you’re vaccinated.

“We will tell you immediately if we think it has to change. We are watching the data every day.

“For now, and you’ll notice I keep saying the date because I’ve learned when you replay interviews if the date isn’t in them then sometimes people can say you said something different.

“On the 11th of December, yes, the cup final can go ahead.”

Or put more simply: 'At this moment in time it's on, but don't bet on it.'

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

If it's not going to be played next weekend, which I really hope it will be, surely the logical answer is to postpone it until next year. Makes not sense to play it next weekend with no fans. Plenty of time to play it one weekend next Feb/Mar/Apr.

[SChibs]

Really can't see it not going ahead to be honest

[Since90+2]

Unless they are closing pubs at the same time as not admitting fans then the game will go ahead as planned.

Unless furlough is introduced in the next 4 days then the final will be played.

If you make the game behind closed doors you push 52,000 people into indoor spaces to watch the match rather than outdoor.

[Weegreenman]

Everyone can see what’s happening with the numbers. If it continues the way they expect it to then it’ll most certainly be played behind closed doors unfortunately.

[Lancs Harp]

Everyone can see what’s happening with the numbers. If it continues the way they expect it to then it’ll most certainly be played behind closed doors unfortunately.

I expect it to go ahead. If not then it will be postponed until next year and later in the season. Cant see it going ahead behind closed doors.

[truehibernian]

Realist = cancel and rearrange

Cynic = Celtic have injuries to vital players, rearrange regardless of crowd or no crowd:cb

[Alfred E Newman]

Everyone can see what’s happening with the numbers. If it continues the way they expect it to then it’ll most certainly be played behind closed doors unfortunately.
It will most certainly not be played behind closed doors.
The cost implications dictate that in the event Sturgeon and co impose crowd restrictions it will be postponed just as the Scottish Cup semi finals were last year.

[Hibeesforever]

I don't see any risk to the match really...most of the at risk population has had a Booster and it is looking like the variant is weaker than Delta. Only scare mongering from the First Minister...

[Hermit Crab]

It will most certainly not be played behind closed doors.
The cost implications dictate that in the event Sturgeon and co impose crowd restrictions it will be postponed just as the Scottish Cup semi finals were last year.


I've posted similar elsewhere, the gov need to be very careful because if they ban fans from this then they'll have to the same for the Rugby, the Hogmanay street party and any other large concerts/events due to take place this month and the months thereafter. Going to be a lot of pissed off people. Another lockdown just will not work either so they better not even suggest that.

[Jamesie]

It will most certainly not be played behind closed doors.
The cost implications dictate that in the event Sturgeon and co impose crowd restrictions it will be postponed just as the Scottish Cup semi finals were last year.

Closed doors does nothing to avoid the issue by pushing people together in houses to watch it - fair enough, in smaller numbers than on buses or in sat The Shed, but they’re still together. That’s why I think postponement is the most likely result.

[CentreLine]

If they postpone the final perhaps they could call the league at the same time. Would that relegate St Johnston? That would be funny

[Lancs Harp]

If they postpone the final perhaps they could call the league at the same time. Would that relegate St Johnston? That would be funny

I think the rules state that if the season is forced to end early then Hearts are relegated.

[Ronniekirk]

Jason Leitch confirming tonight it will go ahead with full capacity


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[Sir David Gray]

Jason Leitch confirming tonight it will go ahead with full capacity


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Is this a further update to the one he gave earlier on that people were talking about when he kept stressing that as of 11th December the cup final was going ahead with fans but he couldn't guarantee what the situation would be next week?

If it's the same one you're referring to I don't think he gave any guarantees about the final at all to be honest.

[FilipinoHibs]

Likely to be postponed.

[kaimendhibs]

Are we just gonna submit till the end of time. Im no anti vaxer or into conspiracies. But if we dont fight back, we will all die out.
Im home from 7 days in Istanbul. Airports, flights, meeting and hugging friends, in bars, cafes, streets, friends homes, shops, taxis, the lot.
Did PCR before flying home and 2 day test when home.
Both myself and Karen negative.
Just lucky???,?,,

[Ronniekirk]

Likely to be postponed.

Nope


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[Itsnoteasy]

Never mind season tickets, If the final is played behind closed doors it's going to be a logistical nightmare to reimburse fans who have paid for tickets, especially those who paid cash like I did for the 6 I bought and before there's any mention of the tickets having anything about closed doors on the Ts & Cs you cant read Ts & Cs on a ticket you weren't given on the day you paid for it and in my case still haven't got.

If fans were to be excluded then the only alternative is to play the game when it's safer to do so at some point next year .... and at the same time try and get a hold of the idiot at the SPFL who thought it was a good idea to schedule their showpiece game for a week before Christmas in the first place.


What's the problem with it being a week before Xmas?
Doesn't seem to be an issue, it's going to be a sell out if it goes ahead.
Now folk moaning that we get to a final & there no happy with the date.

[Ronniekirk]

Is this a further update to the one he gave earlier on that people were talking about when he kept stressing that as of 11th December the cup final was going ahead with fans but he couldn't guarantee what the situation would be next week?

If it's the same one you're referring to I don't think he gave any guarantees about the final at all to be honest.

My reading of what I read was he was very confident it would go ahead and he was interviewed to try and give clarification as to whether it would go ahead
Clearly if hospitals fill up next week and deaths increased significantly due to new variant things could change but he was putting a very positive spin on things imo
He could of chosen not to give the interview but clearly there is speculation mounting it may not go ahead so he agreed to clarify things as best he could
I now fully expect it will go ahead


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[JOD]

I'm going with my granddaughter. She is unfortunately a wee celtic fan due to her dad and mum. (my daughter btw)
However I still think she's a wee Hibee.
I don't keep well nowadays and may never get this chance again. Please Nichola let the game go ahead.
Btw they're injuries are brutal. Great chance for us. When they spend in window if postponed we're really up against it. Go for it on the 19th.💚💚💚💚💚

[silverhibee]

I think it will get postponed and played at a later date, the FM won’t want fans packed in pubs and houses to watch the game so postponement is probably the thing to do.

[Hermit Crab]

I think it will get postponed and played at a later date, the FM won’t want fans packed in pubs and houses to watch the game so postponement is probably the thing to do.


Then she has to bin Rugby matches, the new year street parties and the concert in the gardens etc. Not just events in Edinburgh or Glasgow either, we're talking nationwide, there'll be a riot if that happens.

[Hermit Crab]

Jason Leitch confirming tonight it will go ahead with full capacity


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Likely to be postponed.


:dunno: :confused:

[Onion]

Far too much money to be refunded, for them to play it behind closed doors. You're looking at £3M plus. More likely it will be postponed by Celtic until they're happy with the fitness of the players. SPFL and Premier will of course be in close contact with Celtic, awaiting instructions

[Bristolhibby]

Better not be. We’re flying up next Saturday.

By then I’ll be triple vaccinated and have had COVID.

J

[FilipinoHibs]

:dunno: :confused:

Remember Jason's proviso as at 11 Dec 2021. By Saturday's briefing from the first minister, it looks pretty serious and they are reviewing the data every day with a cabinet meeting on Tuesday. Cases are doubling every 2 days. Friday's real estimate was a 1000 of the variant. So by Tuesday will be the dominant variant. By the end of next we could be running at 25,000+ cases a day if no action is taken.

[marinello59]

My reading of what I read was he was very confident it would go ahead and he was interviewed to try and give clarification as to whether it would go ahead
Clearly if hospitals fill up next week and deaths increased significantly due to new variant things could change but he was putting a very positive spin on things imo
He could of chosen not to give the interview but clearly there is speculation mounting it may not go ahead so he agreed to clarify things as best he could
I now fully expect it will go ahead


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I listened to the interview and he gave no guarantees at all. He kept date stamping his remarks so if things do change in the next few days nobody can accuse him of having done so either.

[GreenCastle]

Then she has to bin Rugby matches, the new year street parties and the concert in the gardens etc. Not just events in Edinburgh or Glasgow either, we're talking nationwide, there'll be a riot if that happens.

Plus Edinburgh Derby and Celtic V Rangers.

They won’t postpone it.

[Jamesie]

If it’s off then we’ve got eight days between the Dundee and Aberdeen matches. No bad thing given the recent schedule.

[Carheenlea]

If they close the stadiums where fans are mixing in a largely outdoor environment, they will have to be closing hospitality at their busiest time of the year. Without funding from Westminster to cover furlough/grants etc then I don’t see any postponement of games or further “lock downs” in the manner we experienced last year.

[JimBHibees]

We should be pushing for it to be played given Celtics current injuries

[Billy Whizz]

If it’s off then we’ve got eight days between the Dundee and Aberdeen matches. No bad thing given the recent schedule.

Would these not be cancelled too?

[marinello59]

Would these not be cancelled too?

Not if we are going with restricted numbers attending or heading back to playing behind closed doors.

[Callum_62]

Given the expected spike its almost guarenteed that some sides will be struggling to field a team

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[Sir David Gray]

Would these not be cancelled too?

The cup final will be unique in that they're unlikely to want that played in front of no fans particularly when everyone's bought their tickets. Holding it next week without fans would cost a fortune in refunds.

For league matches there's already a system in place for PPV and season ticket holders getting home matches for no extra cost. I don't see the whole season being stopped like it was in March 2020, just the cup final being postponed and the league season carrying on behind closed doors.

[Eyrie]

If they close the stadiums where fans are mixing in a largely outdoor environment, they will have to be closing hospitality at their busiest time of the year. Without funding from Westminster to cover furlough/grants etc then I don’t see any postponement of games or further “lock downs” in the manner we experienced last year.

The politicians haven't closed hospitality, so they won't close football etc.

Instead there will be heavy hints about it not being advisable to attend a party or a game, but it'll be left to the organisers and attendees to decide because that avoids the question of compensation.

[Ronniekirk]

If they close the stadiums where fans are mixing in a largely outdoor environment, they will have to be closing hospitality at their busiest time of the year. Without funding from Westminster to cover furlough/grants etc then I don’t see any postponement of games or further “lock downs” in the manner we experienced last year.

Hospitality events down south are getting special treatment with masks not having to be worn at all
What does that tell us You can’t get or spread covid in pubs hotels restraunts etc ? But you can on public transport or in a shop Makes no sense





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[Gordy M]

Hospitality events down south are getting special treatment with masks not having to be worn at all
What does that tell us You can’t get or spread covid in pubs hotels restraunts etc ? But you can on public transport or in a shop Makes no sense




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I think, but not sure, thats because people need to go to the shops or travel on public transport......they dont have to go to the pub or out for a meal. Places you have a choice to go to, you dont need a mask.

[Johnny Clash]

Postponement is likely I think. It’s not just the game itself at Hampden but the packed buses and trains and the venues hosting supporters for a bevy. I’m not sure how they can say you shouldn’t sit in boozer/restaurant for your works Xmas party but it’s ok for the fitbaw?

[PatHead]

Hospitality events down south are getting special treatment with masks not having to be worn at all
What does that tell us You can’t get or spread covid in pubs hotels restraunts etc ? But you can on public transport or in a shop Makes no sense





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Think it tells you that the PM is scared stiff of his back benchers particularly if there's a vote of confidence in him.

[PatHead]

Postponement is likely I think. It’s not just the game itself at Hampden but the packed buses and trains and the venues hosting supporters for a bevy. I’m not sure how they can say you shouldn’t sit in boozer/restaurant for your works Xmas party but it’s ok for the fitbaw?

Originally when we made the final I was all up for the train through, into a pub or club and onto the match.
Now, if I go, it will be car through, straight into the ground and home. Not even going out to celebrate.
Just not worth ruining Christmas for a second year. I am desperate to see my grandchildren being all excited.

[Johnny Clash]

Originally when we made the final I was all up for the train through, into a pub or club and onto the match.
Now, if I go, it will be car through, straight into the ground and home. Not even going out to celebrate.
Just not worth ruining Christmas for a second year. I am desperate to see my grandchildren being all excited.

We’re the same. Four of us now looking at the car as best option but that’s a shed load of extra traffic and parking would be a challenge.

[He's here!]

My reading of what I read was he was very confident it would go ahead and he was interviewed to try and give clarification as to whether it would go ahead
Clearly if hospitals fill up next week and deaths increased significantly due to new variant things could change but he was putting a very positive spin on things imo
He could of chosen not to give the interview but clearly there is speculation mounting it may not go ahead so he agreed to clarify things as best he could
I now fully expect it will go ahead


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If you're referring to the interview he gave the BBC I'd say it's a stretch to describe him as very confident. It was laden with qualifications and I'd say the message was more along the lines of 'let's wait and see'.

[Yorkshire HFC]

What are peoples thoughts - are fans still happy to go to games?

I've been really looking forward to the cup final, have booked trains up to Edinburgh and arranged to stay over - but all this talk makes me feel I should start thinking if it's worth the risk.

Still haven't received my tickets either............

[BoomtownHibees]

What are peoples thoughts - are fans still happy to go to games?

I've been really looking forward to the cup final, have booked trains up to Edinburgh and arranged to stay over - but all this talk makes me feel I should start thinking if it's worth the risk.

Still haven't received my tickets either............

I am. Been going to every game so far and will be there on Sunday (hopefully). Double jabbed, pretty cautious in everyday life, and looking forward to being on the bus through to the indoor bowling club and then on to Hampden.

Hoping that none of that needs to change

[MWHIBBIES]

What are peoples thoughts - are fans still happy to go to games?

I've been really looking forward to the cup final, have booked trains up to Edinburgh and arranged to stay over - but all this talk makes me feel I should start thinking if it's worth the risk.

Still haven't received my tickets either............

Absolutely. If I'm forced to work on busy construction sites (which I'm quite happy to get on with doing) then I'm happy to enjoy my social life and hobbies too. Understand others may be different. If they deem my social life surplus to requirements because of my safety, then my job should be too and furlough put back on nation wide.

I take all precautions, keep myself clean, and am double jabbed. As a wise man once sang, the show must go on.

[Brightside]

Then she has to bin Rugby matches, the new year street parties and the concert in the gardens etc. Not just events in Edinburgh or Glasgow either, we're talking nationwide, there'll be a riot if that happens.

HC I’m hearing lots of trains cancelled due to staff shortages. Is that true? That’s why I’m thinking it may be postponed. Impact on core infrastructure.

[Brightside]

Absolutely. If I'm forced to work on busy construction sites (which I'm quite happy to get on with doing) then I'm happy to enjoy my social life and hobbies too. Understand others may be different. If they deem my social life surplus to requirements because of my safety, then my job should be too and furlough put back on nation wide.

I take all precautions, keep myself clean, and am double jabbed. As a wise man once sang, the show must go on.

Prob not the best quote when the guy died of an infectious disease.

[Hermit Crab]

HC I’m hearing lots of trains cancelled due to staff shortages. Is that true? That’s why I’m thinking it may be postponed. Impact on core infrastructure.


Not as far as I'm aware? What company?

[MWHIBBIES]

Prob not the best quote when the guy died of an infectious disease.

Thats a stretch.

[Brightside]

Not as far as I'm aware? What company?

There was something on the news about trains out of Waverley being cancelled due to staff shortages and Covid. They didn’t mention the firm.

[Gordy M]

See the rules are changing in England so if you are a close contact, double jabbed and test negative you dont have to isolate.

[marinello59]

There was something on the news about trains out of Waverley being cancelled due to staff shortages and Covid. They didn’t mention the firm.

Jason Leitch said yesterday Scotrail had cancelled 16? services due to staff shortages caused by covid. I’d imagine every business in the country will be facing similar pressures.

[Moulin Yarns]

Not as far as I'm aware? What company?

https://www.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/covid-scotland-150-scotrail-services-cancelled-as-more-staff-forced-to-self-isolate-3491467


ScotRail has confirmed around 150 services were cancelled on Saturday following a sharp rise in the number of staff having to self-isolate given the rapid rise in Omicron cases.

[The Flea]

There was something on the news about trains out of Waverley being cancelled due to staff shortages and Covid. They didn’t mention the firm.

From STV news:

Sixty ScotRail services were cancelled on Friday as dozens of rail workers were forced to self-isolate under Covid rules.

Staff absences are affecting the rail firm across the central belt and passengers are being warned to check the status of their journeys before arriving at the station.

[Jamesie]

What are peoples thoughts - are fans still happy to go to games?

I've been really looking forward to the cup final, have booked trains up to Edinburgh and arranged to stay over - but all this talk makes me feel I should start thinking if it's worth the risk.

Still haven't received my tickets either............

Still happy to attend the Cup Final but I’ll no longer be on a bus with 50 others, no will I be going to a nightclub in Glasgow before the game. It’ll be a straight drive to/from Hampden for me most likely on my tod.

The risk of having to spend Christmas alone and leave my 70 year old mother and 79 year old aunt to spend the day together isn’t really worth it even for a Cup Final: I’m at the stage in life where family becomes before football.

Yes, even though I’m back to working from home I might still come into contact with this new variant in, say, the supermarket, and I’m sure most sensible people would take lateral flows before getting on a bus or going out (but equally I doubt the staunchly antivaxxed will bother). But it’s all about minimising risks for me.

[Moulin Yarns]

Still happy to attend the Cup Final but I’ll no longer be on a bus with 50 others, no will I be going to a nightclub in Glasgow before the game. It’ll be a straight drive to/from Hampden for me most likely on my tod.

The risk of having to spend Christmas alone and leave my 70 year old mother and 79 year old aunt to spend the day together isn’t really worth it even for a Cup Final: I’m at the stage in life where family becomes before football.

Yes, even though I’m back to working from home I might still come into contact with this new variant in, say, the supermarket, and I’m sure most sensible people would take lateral flows before getting on a bus or going out (but equally I doubt the staunchly antivaxxed will bother). But it’s all about minimising risks for me.

What a sensible post. :thumbsup:

[Hermit Crab]

There was something on the news about trains out of Waverley being cancelled due to staff shortages and Covid. They didn’t mention the firm.


Jason Leitch said yesterday Scotrail had cancelled 16? services due to staff shortages caused by covid. I’d imagine every business in the country will be facing similar pressures.


https://www.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/covid-scotland-150-scotrail-services-cancelled-as-more-staff-forced-to-self-isolate-3491467


From STV news:

Sixty ScotRail services were cancelled on Friday as dozens of rail workers were forced to self-isolate under Covid rules.

Staff absences are affecting the rail firm across the central belt and passengers are being warned to check the status of their journeys before arriving at the station.



To put things into perspective Waverley alone sees around 2000 train services per day Mon-Sat so 150 cancellations across the whole network is not a lot in comparison.

[Moulin Yarns]

To put things into perspective Waverley alone sees around 2000 train services per day Mon-Sat so 150 cancellations across the whole network is not a lot in comparison.

Unless it's the train you go for to get you where you need to be at a particular time and that is one of the cancellations.

[Iggy Pope]

What are peoples thoughts - are fans still happy to go to games?

I've been really looking forward to the cup final, have booked trains up to Edinburgh and arranged to stay over - but all this talk makes me feel I should start thinking if it's worth the risk.

Still haven't received my tickets either............

How are things in Yorkshire, are people down there now thinking about risks? Seems to have been a gung-ho approach in the south all year as far as I have experienced. Big crowds at the EPL all weekend and not a squeak.
Edit: (Or is it the financial risk that’s the concern?)

[HH81]

How are things in Yorkshire, are people down there now thinking about risks? Seems to have been a gung-ho approach in the south all year as far as I have experienced. Big crowds at the EPL all weekend and not a squeak.
Edit: (Or is it the financial risk that’s the concern?)

Pretty much no change down here.

Few more wearing masks in shops and that but was only around 50%.

People don't seem to accept the rules like in Scotland from what I have seen.

I think because it's been pretty much back to normal now for months and months they will struggle to get people to follow restrictions.

[Yorkshire HFC]

How are things in Yorkshire, are people down there now thinking about risks? Seems to have been a gung-ho approach in the south all year as far as I have experienced. Big crowds at the EPL all weekend and not a squeak.
Edit: (Or is it the financial risk that’s the concern?)

I'm not sure - most of the things I do are outdoors and you don't see many masks or social distancing to be honest. I'm retired so I don't have to travel in and out of town every day - when I have done, I've driven. And mask wearing seems to be very hit and miss, although it's only been enforceable for a week.

[BILLYHIBS]

Boris going to address the nation tonight 8pm as UK Covid alert increased to level 4

[Gerard]

Looks like we are going back into some version of lockdown.😭

[Ringothedog]

Boris going to address the nation tonight 8pm as UK Covid alert increased to level 4

More deflection from the worst PM in living memory

[Ringothedog]

Looks like we are going back into some version of lockdown.😭

Based on what?

[Onion]

More deflection from the worst PM in living memory

:agree: Complete buffoon. Will be cancelling Xmas parties for all except those with a No 10 on their front door.

[LunasBoots]

Looks like we are going back into some version of lockdown.😭

Cant see it, this variant so far hasnt been as deadly as past variants. They would need to bring back the furlough scheme and at the moment i dont think Doris or his buddys are up for that.

[LaMotta]

Cant see it, this variant so far hasnt been as deadly as past variants. They would need to bring back the furlough scheme and at the moment i dont think Doris or his buddys are up for that.

:agree: no new restrictions announced tonight.

[BoomtownHibees]

Apparently it’s about boosters and is pre-recorded

[Lancs Harp]

Apparently it’s about boosters and is pre-recorded

Bound to be, by 8pm on a Sunday evening he'll just be polishing off his five course Sunday dinner and be on the port by now.

[Keith_M]

Apparently it’s about boosters and is pre-recorded


And it's definitely not a party.

[Ronniekirk]

Boris going to address the nation tonight 8pm as UK Covid alert increased to level 4

Is he not hosting a zoom Quiz I won’t listen to him No credibility in my eyes Lies just trip off his tongue


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[ddoc]

Is he not hosting a zoom Quiz I won’t listen to him No credibility in my eyes Lies just trip off his tongue


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I think the ability to lie with a straight face, repeatedly, is in the job description for PM's. Scott Morrison ( Australian PM) has it down to a fine art, or so he thinks.

[jgl07]

Not as far as I'm aware? What company?
Which companies are not?

We travelled from back on Saturday from Manchester early evening. The 18:26 Trans Pennine Express from Piccadilly to Edinburgh arrived on time and everyon got on. A few minutes later we were informed that due to 'staff shortages' the train would terminate at Preston. We were dumped at Preston with no indication of when would would travel north. There were no more trains to Edinburgh.

We were supposed to get a Glasgow bound Aviva train appeared to have been cancelled due to 'staff shortages'. Then the next train to Glasgow an hour later met a similar fate. Mysteriously they seemed to be able to find enough staff to man the southbound Aviva trins to London. The next train train to Glasgow arrived a further hour on. It was quite full but have to take on most of those ejected from two London to Glasgow trains and one Manchester to Edinburgh train. One report suggested that there had been a COVID outbreak amongst the staff.

After some discussion if there were too many people on the train, it eventually moved. We spotted the overcrowding and went to the back of the train and ducked into First Class, finding two empty seats. Eventually the whole train was rammed with people standing in every coach. With all the messing about by the time the train arrived at Glasgow Central, there was insufficient time to catch the last train for Edinburgh from Queen Street despite assurances from the guard on the train to Glasgow that they would try to hold the train from Glasgow.

We had to walk on to Buchanan Street bus station in time to miss the 01:00 bus and had to wait for the 02:00 bus to Edinburgh. It meandered around various locations including the Airport before arriving back at Haymarket. A taxi back from Haymarket cost anouther tenner to add to £28 cost of the night bus fares from Glasgow.

Travelling by train at weekends is a something of a lottery these days.

[Steven79]

Which companies are not?

We travelled from back on Saturday from Manchester early evening. The 18:26 Trans Pennine Express from Piccadilly to Edinburgh arrived on time and everyon got on. A few minutes later we were informed that due to 'staff shortages' the train would terminate at Preston. We were dumped at Preston with no indication of when would would travel north. There were no more trains to Edinburgh.

We were supposed to get a Glasgow bound Aviva train appeared to have been cancelled due to 'staff shortages'. Then the next train to Glasgow an hour later met a similar fate. Mysteriously they seemed to be able to find enough staff to man the southbound Aviva trins to London. The next train train to Glasgow arrived a further hour on. It was quite full but have to take on most of those ejected from two London to Glasgow trains and one Manchester to Edinburgh train. One report suggested that there had been a COVID outbreak amongst the staff.

After some discussion if there were too many people on the train, it eventually moved. We spotted the overcrowding and went to the back of the train and ducked into First Class, finding two empty seats. Eventually the whole train was rammed with people standing in every coach. With all the messing about by the time the train arrived at Glasgow Central, there was insufficient time to catch the last train for Edinburgh from Queen Street despite assurances from the guard on the train to Glasgow that they would try to hold the train from Glasgow.

We had to walk on to Buchanan Street bus station in time to miss the 01:00 bus and had to wait for the 02:00 bus to Edinburgh. It meandered around various locations including the Airport before arriving back at Haymarket. A taxi back from Haymarket cost anouther tenner to add to £28 cost of the night bus fares from Glasgow.

Travelling by train at weekends is a something of a lottery these days.You should be able to claim that back on top of the train fair.

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[KeithTheHibby]

I don’t think much will change next couple of weeks so full house next weekend. With the announcement last night of the booster program I think that will be the focus between now and the end of the year.
Anyways it’s not just about having no fans next week, a decision like that would be part of a much bigger plan I.e. lockdown of the country so I can’t see that happening.

[HH81]

Which companies are not?

We travelled from back on Saturday from Manchester early evening. The 18:26 Trans Pennine Express from Piccadilly to Edinburgh arrived on time and everyon got on. A few minutes later we were informed that due to 'staff shortages' the train would terminate at Preston. We were dumped at Preston with no indication of when would would travel north. There were no more trains to Edinburgh.

We were supposed to get a Glasgow bound Aviva train appeared to have been cancelled due to 'staff shortages'. Then the next train to Glasgow an hour later met a similar fate. Mysteriously they seemed to be able to find enough staff to man the southbound Aviva trins to London. The next train train to Glasgow arrived a further hour on. It was quite full but have to take on most of those ejected from two London to Glasgow trains and one Manchester to Edinburgh train. One report suggested that there had been a COVID outbreak amongst the staff.

After some discussion if there were too many people on the train, it eventually moved. We spotted the overcrowding and went to the back of the train and ducked into First Class, finding two empty seats. Eventually the whole train was rammed with people standing in every coach. With all the messing about by the time the train arrived at Glasgow Central, there was insufficient time to catch the last train for Edinburgh from Queen Street despite assurances from the guard on the train to Glasgow that they would try to hold the train from Glasgow.

We had to walk on to Buchanan Street bus station in time to miss the 01:00 bus and had to wait for the 02:00 bus to Edinburgh. It meandered around various locations including the Airport before arriving back at Haymarket. A taxi back from Haymarket cost anouther tenner to add to £28 cost of the night bus fares from Glasgow.

Travelling by train at weekends is a something of a lottery these days.

That sounds a disaster.

I am surprised they didn't stick you in a taxi from Glasgow as no way to get home.

They used to do that back in the day.

A big complaint to go in, I'd be getting a full refund of the trip and more.

[He's here!]

Scottish govt to announce tomorrow what, if any, further restrictions are to be imposed, so we should hopefully get clarity then.

[Callum_62]

There were definatkey some train cancellations on Scotrail over the weekend due to staff shortages

If omincron really takes off then that type of issue will get significantly worse

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[Jones28]

Scottish govt to announce tomorrow what, if any, further restrictions are to be imposed, so we should hopefully get clarity then.

Needs to be clear tomorrow that it’s definitely on or not. The time for ambiguity is rapidly diminishing and it’s at the stage now where people will lose money for hotels and travel if they cancel closer to the day.

[FilipinoHibs]

David Wallace Lockhart (@BBCDavidWL) Tweeted:
Health Secretary Humza Yousaf says he thinks it’s “inevitable” further covid measures will be announced tomorrow for scotland when the FM addresses parliament #bbcgms https://twitter.com/BBCDavidWL/status/1470306445241602053?s=20

[Ronniekirk]

Needs to be clear tomorrow that it’s definitely on or not. The time for ambiguity is rapidly diminishing and it’s at the stage now where people will lose money for hotels and travel if they cancel closer to the day.

Will be enhanced use of vaccine passport


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[MB62]

There were definatkey some train cancellations on Scotrail over the weekend due to staff shortages

If omincron really takes off then that type of issue will get significantly worse

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And 50,000 fans travelling on coaches and trains etc heading to Hampden, is not going to help the cause.
Personally, I would like to see the game either postponed until next year, or played behind closed doors again.

[AugustaHibs]

And 50,000 fans travelling on coaches and trains etc heading to Hampden, is not going to help the cause.
Personally, I would like to see the game either postponed until next year, or played behind closed doors again.

No thanks.

[LunasBoots]

And 50,000 fans travelling on coaches and trains etc heading to Hampden, is not going to help the cause.
Personally, I would like to see the game either postponed until next year, or played behind closed doors again.

Chance that the game doesnt go ahead now anyway with whatever restrictions come out the morn.

[Jamesie]

Will be enhanced use of vaccine passport

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For passport use to be enhanced they need to actually scan the QR codes like they do in Italy. For now, having to flash a QR code at a steward isn’t really cutting it or acting as a deterrent to prevent the unvaccinated from attending.

[flash]

And 50,000 fans travelling on coaches and trains etc heading to Hampden, is not going to help the cause.
Personally, I would like to see the game either postponed until next year, or played behind closed doors again.

Why would anybody want the game to be played behind closed doors?

[Alfred E Newman]

Chance that the game doesnt go ahead now anyway with whatever restrictions come out the morn.

Really?

[Brightside]

Will be enhanced use of vaccine passport


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Vaccine passport is pointless tbh esp for the football.

[ancient hibee]

I don’t think much will change next couple of weeks so full house next weekend. With the announcement last night of the booster program I think that will be the focus between now and the end of the year.
Anyways it’s not just about having no fans next week, a decision like that would be part of a much bigger plan I.e. lockdown of the country so I can’t see that happening.


I don’t think it’ll be a full house. By the weekend transport will be a huge problem and thousands won’t be able to get there.

[Ronniekirk]

Vaccine passport is pointless tbh esp for the football.

I know but they aren’t going to want to lock us down and if you have had three jabs nor should you be locked down



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[Ronniekirk]

For passport use to be enhanced they need to actually scan the QR codes like they do in Italy. For now, having to flash a QR code at a steward isn’t really cutting it or acting as a deterrent to prevent the unvaccinated from attending.

Unvaccinated can present a negative flow test and they get in as things stand



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[LunasBoots]

Really?

Transport will be a nightmare, Scotrail are having issues, thousands of fans may not even make it to Glasgow, coaches full of supporters, travelling from city to city in thousands, i just cant see it now.

[Lago]

We're being softened up for another lock down

[He's here!]

I don’t think much will change next couple of weeks so full house next weekend. With the announcement last night of the booster program I think that will be the focus between now and the end of the year.
Anyways it’s not just about having no fans next week, a decision like that would be part of a much bigger plan I.e. lockdown of the country so I can’t see that happening.

I suspect a lot will change in that time. Wales are reportedly about to announce a return to household bubbles so I wouldn't be too surprised if the rest of the UK follows suit.

The rhetoric around this new variant gets more alarming by the day and I think the much bigger lockdown you refer to may well become a reality.

[Hermit Crab]

We're being softened up for another lock down


No chance imo. Folk just wouldn't adhere to it. Not after last time and certainly not with xmas parties taking place in number 10.

[Gordy M]

We're being softened up for another lock down

They cant afford to. The Scot Gov have already said there wouldnt be a lockdown unless the got more money from Westminster for furlough.

[Col2]

We're being softened up for another lock down

I agree to an extent but can’t see a lockdown again (like we had before).

We will see new restrictions I think between now and Jan. We are absolutely being led down the path for that. I am waiting for “Armageddon” to be the next buzz word to mask the lack of any proper data.

[GibbytheHibby2]

And 50,000 fans travelling on coaches and trains etc heading to Hampden, is not going to help the cause.


I expect they will, because football is an easy target. As opposed to probably 4 or 5 times that number travelling into Glasgow for Christmas shopping, theatre, cinemas, restaurants and bars. Many arriving at the same train stations and bus stations.

I really hope they don’t, for the sake of parity if nothing else. People have for the most part behaved, but there’s a real danger of anarchy if the govt take the pi$$.

[GibbytheHibby2]

I am waiting for “Armageddon” to be the next buzz word….,.

I saw what you did there! 😂

[LaMotta]

I'm very confident the game will go ahead on Sunday with a full house.

First Minister will be making an announcement tomorrow re new measures, but these are likely to focus on indoor mitigations.

So we can expect a return to physical distancing in shops etc. And there may be advice to reduce number of social contacts indoors.

As long as people wear face masks on public transport then no issues with travelling through to Glasgow. And no announcement expected on playing games behind closed doors.

[Pete]

I've got tickets but after a lot of thought, there's no chance I'm going. This Omicron variant is spreading and events like cup finals, even though outdoors, are still risky. All these people in close proximity, shouting and singing, lots of bevvied up people who will let their guard down...you can be as cautious as you like but there's probably little you can do yourself to avoid it given the nature of its transmission.
It's not the virus itself, it's the self isolation if I do get it. Christmas was crap last year and I don't want another one like that. I'll do whatever it takes to stay safe, even if that means keeping the kids off school. Also, just say I did decide to go and did get it, that would lock down everyone in my household...pretty selfish.
I'm letting people down by doing this but it's the right thing to do in my eyes, and I'm starting to think it's only right that they postpone it as they're now asking people to take a risk by going, and the consequences now effect others more than they did a few days ago. I'd rather go when I can enjoy it, not being distracted and avoiding things like pubs and busses etc...

[Logie Green]

Looks like game has been removed from premier sports schedule for next week. Maybe im reading it wrong though?

Now showing on their schedule after not showing on Saturday.

[DIXIHIBS]

Now showing on their schedule after not showing on Saturday.

Yes i see its showing again. Fingers crossed.

[LunasBoots]

I'm very confident the game will go ahead on Sunday with a full house.

First Minister will be making an announcement tomorrow re new measures, but these are likely to focus on indoor mitigations.

So we can expect a return to physical distancing in shops etc. And there may be advice to reduce number of social contacts indoors.

As long as people wear face masks on public transport then no issues with travelling through to Glasgow. And no announcement expected on playing games behind closed doors.

Cant really see how that would work at the football. Pubs will be packing or people will just drink outside the pubs on the streets especially for bigger games.

[FilipinoHibs]

I'm very confident the game will go ahead on Sunday with a full house.

First Minister will be making an announcement tomorrow re new measures, but these are likely to focus on indoor mitigations.

So we can expect a return to physical distancing in shops etc. And there may be advice to reduce number of social contacts indoors.

As long as people wear face masks on public transport then no issues with travelling through to Glasgow. And no announcement expected on playing games behind closed doors.

Given what is happening in Westminster think the cut off point for the requirement for a covid passport for outdoor events will be dropped to 4,000. So really no change for Sunday. Think the biggest risk is the transport to the game. Many will be put off by how virulent the new strain is and what the numbers look like by the end of the week. But the whole event does look like a recipe for a mass spreader event. Remember Cheltenham and the Liverpool vs Athletico Madrid game?

[Keith_M]

Given what is happening in Westminster think the cut off point for the requirement for a covid passport for outdoor events will be dropped to 4,000. So really no change for Sunday. Think the biggest risk is the transport to the game. Many will be put off by how virulent the new strain is and what the numbers look like by the end of the week. But the whole event does look like a recipe for a mass spreader event. Remember Cheltenham and the Liverpool vs Athletico Madrid game?


Keep in mind there were ~55,000 people at Celtc park yesterday, and there will be 50,000 fans at Ibrox on Wednesday then again this Saturday.

So the Cup Final isn't actually anything special in regards to the numbers attending, travelling, or meeting up in large groups at the pub.

I think if really large crowds was a concern, they would surely have closed down stadia already.

[LaMotta]

Cant really see how that would work at the football. Pubs will be packing or people will just drink outside the pubs on the streets especially for bigger games.

Not sure what you mean mate? Basically nothing that gets announced tomorrow will affect the game.

[LaMotta]

Keep in mind there were ~55,000 people at Celtc park yesterday, and there will be 50,000 fans at Ibrox on Wednesday then again this Saturday.

So the Cup Final isn't actually anything special in regards to the numbers attending, travelling, or meeting up in large groups at the pub.

I think if really large crowds was a concern, they would surely have closed down stadia already.

:agree:

[BoomtownHibees]

Not sure what you mean mate? Basically nothing that gets announced tomorrow will affect the game.

How do you know?

[LaMotta]

How do you know?

I'm very confident, that's all I'll say

[BoomtownHibees]

I'm very confident, that's all I'll say

Good stuff, I will take your word for it and start looking forward to Sunday again

[Seveno]

I am getting nervous and would like to see it postponed until the Spring.

[GreenCastle]

Given what is happening in Westminster think the cut off point for the requirement for a covid passport for outdoor events will be dropped to 4,000. So really no change for Sunday. Think the biggest risk is the transport to the game. Many will be put off by how virulent the new strain is and what the numbers look like by the end of the week. But the whole event does look like a recipe for a mass spreader event. Remember Cheltenham and the Liverpool vs Athletico Madrid game?

How many who went to Liverpool v Madrid had a vaccine or double jabbed / booster?

There is a difference to where we are just now and where we were then.

Folk who are double jabbed and a booster surely they are allowed to attend this weekend?!

[LaMotta]

Good stuff, I will take your word for it and start looking forward to Sunday again

If I'm wrong you can justifiably have a go at me tomorrow:greengrin

[Gordy M]

How many who went to Liverpool v Madrid had a vaccine or double jabbed / booster?

There is a difference to where we are just now and where we were then.

Folk who are double jabbed and a booster surely they are allowed to attend this weekend?!

South Africa are reporting that Omicron is more transmisible but less severe than Delta, so maybe they will be less willing to go too far with restrictioms until there is more known?

[Just Alf]

How many who went to Liverpool v Madrid had a vaccine or double jabbed / booster?

There is a difference to where we are just now and where we were then.

Folk who are double jabbed and a booster surely they are allowed to attend this weekend?!I hear you, problem though is the new varient has moved the goal posts, now looks like we need to be boosted as well to make the difference.

It's why it's so important to get everyone (worldwide) fully vaxxed ASAP, every new infection is a roll of the dice for covid and every so often it'll get 'all 6's' resulting in a new varient. Once at the fully vaxxed stage it'll hopefully 'just' become an endemic virus a bit like flu.

[bingo70]

I hear you, problem though is the new varient has moved the goal posts, now looks like we need to be boosted as well to make the difference.

It's why it's so important to get everyone (worldwide) fully vaxxed ASAP, every new infection is a roll of the dice for covid and every so often it'll get 'all 6's' resulting in a new varient. Once at the fully vaxxed stage it'll hopefully 'just' become an endemic virus a bit like flu.

Everybody worldwide isn’t going to get vaccinated.

My biggest concern about Sunday is keeping the players covid free. If it gets into either squad then we’re screwed for the game going ahead

[Billy Whizz]

Everybody worldwide isn’t going to get vaccinated.

My biggest concern about Sunday is keeping the players covid free. If it gets into either squad then we’re screwed for the game going ahead

A few games in England have been postponed already, and Man Utd trying to get tomorrow nights game v Brentford postponed, as Utd have covid cases

[hibby6270]

Now showing on their schedule after not showing on Saturday.


Yes i see its showing again. Fingers crossed.

Still doesn’t show up on my Virginmedia schedule. :confused:
Been checking each day since this was raised.
Yet it does now show on Premier Sports website (didn’t a couple of days ago).
I’m double :confused::confused:

[bingo70]

A few games in England have been postponed already, and Man Utd trying to get tomorrow nights game v Brentford postponed, as Utd have covid cases

That’s what I mean. Games being cancelled because of it is inevitable., it’s just whether we can get through this weekend. I’ve heard Hibs aren’t being particularly strict with the players in terms of making sure they stay out of harms way so I wouldn’t be surprised if the games off for that reason.

[Just Alf]

Everybody worldwide isn’t going to get vaccinated.

My biggest concern about Sunday is keeping the players covid free. If it gets into either squad then we’re screwed for the game going aheadOh I know.. pipe dream unfortunately.


And yeah, I think it's the staff in either camp coming down with it that will be the problem. :agree:

[Glory Lurker]

Hadn't thought of the players getting it. If no announcement tomorrow we still won't be sure until lunchtime on Sunday, will we?

[Just Alf]

Hadn't thought of the players getting it. If no announcement tomorrow we still won't be sure until lunchtime on Sunday, will we?Going by the last time I'd agree, we'll be there/well on the way before we know 100% I fear.

[inglisavhibs]

I've got tickets but after a lot of thought, there's no chance I'm going. This Omicron variant is spreading and events like cup finals, even though outdoors, are still risky. All these people in close proximity, shouting and singing, lots of bevvied up people who will let their guard down...you can be as cautious as you like but there's probably little you can do yourself to avoid it given the nature of its transmission.
It's not the virus itself, it's the self isolation if I do get it. Christmas was crap last year and I don't want another one like that. I'll do whatever it takes to stay safe, even if that means keeping the kids off school. Also, just say I did decide to go and did get it, that would lock down everyone in my household...pretty selfish.
I'm letting people down by doing this but it's the right thing to do in my eyes, and I'm starting to think it's only right that they postpone it as they're now asking people to take a risk by going, and the consequences now effect others more than they did a few days ago. I'd rather go when I can enjoy it, not being distracted and avoiding things like pubs and busses etc...
Totally your choice, but do you really think covid is going to disappear before the end of the football season. Up town today and buses, shops etc all mobbed but you could see the increased mask usage. By all accounts this variant is milder than Delta but easier to transmit. Take best precautions but get on with life as much as possible. A bigger problem would be significant increases in hospital admissions and IC units. if we go anywhere near total lockdowns again I fear for the mental health of many.

[mcohibs]

I am getting nervous and would like to see it postponed until the Spring.

Same tbh. Just doesn't feel like the run up week to a cup final should. A mix of this Covid situation and the state of the club at the moment

[B.H.F.C]

Totally your choice, but do you really think covid is going to disappear before the end of the football season. Up town today and buses, shops etc all mobbed but you could see the increased mask usage. By all accounts this variant is milder than Delta but easier to transmit. Take best precautions but get on with life as much as possible. A bigger problem would be significant increases in hospital admissions and IC units. if we go anywhere near total lockdowns again I fear for the mental health of many.

Don’t think, for many, it’s the fear of the virus as such. But with the current isolation rules there’s every chance of it interfering with plans for Christmas.

I’m planning to have my day out and go to the game as normal but I can understand why folk might have reservations about it.

[PolmontHibby]

I've got tickets but after a lot of thought, there's no chance I'm going. This Omicron variant is spreading and events like cup finals, even though outdoors, are still risky. All these people in close proximity, shouting and singing, lots of bevvied up people who will let their guard down...you can be as cautious as you like but there's probably little you can do yourself to avoid it given the nature of its transmission.
It's not the virus itself, it's the self isolation if I do get it. Christmas was crap last year and I don't want another one like that. I'll do whatever it takes to stay safe, even if that means keeping the kids off school. Also, just say I did decide to go and did get it, that would lock down everyone in my household...pretty selfish.
I'm letting people down by doing this but it's the right thing to do in my eyes, and I'm starting to think it's only right that they postpone it as they're now asking people to take a risk by going, and the consequences now effect others more than they did a few days ago. I'd rather go when I can enjoy it, not being distracted and avoiding things like pubs and busses etc...

I will also not be going, came back from London Xmas trip Saturday and tested positive today.
With hindsight probably should not have went to London, and probably now feel same about Sunday despite ticket/coach/hotel all booked - not that I can go anyway

[Pete]

Totally your choice, but do you really think covid is going to disappear before the end of the football season. Up town today and buses, shops etc all mobbed but you could see the increased mask usage. By all accounts this variant is milder than Delta but easier to transmit. Take best precautions but get on with life as much as possible. A bigger problem would be significant increases in hospital admissions and IC units. if we go anywhere near total lockdowns again I fear for the mental health of many.

Agree with trying to get on with it but for me, it's really all about the timing of the match and it being so close to Christmas m8. Any time after that and I would probably take the risk.

This is a big Christmas and I want to minimise the risk of being told to self isolate...and attending this match has to be the trade off. Now that the guidelines have changed, we're bring asked to make a difficult choice, which in a way I think isn't fair.
Might not be a popular opinion, but I think a few people are going to end up paying a price for attending the game. The risks and consequences aren't a secret, so I suppose it's up to each individual.

[Pretty Boy]

Don’t think, for many, it’s the fear of the virus as such. But with the current isolation rules there’s every chance of it interfering with plans for Christmas.

I’m planning to have my day out and go to the game as normal but I can understand why folk might have reservations about it.

I'm in the somewhat fortunate position that the people I am going to the game with are the people I will be spending Christmas with.

If I have to isolate, chances are they will to so it's a collective risk. Not ideal of course but I wouldn't feel like I was spoiling everyone's Christmas which makes the decision easier to make.

I don't blame anyone for deciding not to go.

[Nicho87]

Wife is 8 months pregnant and unvaccinated

Sad not to be there but in the grand scheme of things I’ve seen hibs win both cups - some things are way more important than being there just cause it’s a final

Hope everyone stays safe

[SteveHFC]

Would there be a cup parade if we win on Sunday?

[Ronniekirk]

Would there be a cup parade if we win on Sunday?

Think the answer to that would be no


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[LaMotta]

Agree with trying to get on with it but for me, it's really all about the timing of the match and it being so close to Christmas m8. Any time after that and I would probably take the risk.

This is a big Christmas and I want to minimise the risk of being told to self isolate...and attending this match has to be the trade off. Now that the guidelines have changed, we're bring asked to make a difficult choice, which in a way I think isn't fair.
Might not be a popular opinion, but I think a few people are going to end up paying a price for attending the game. The risks and consequences aren't a secret, so I suppose it's up to each individual.

Understand your view mate - but for me the fact that there is a Christmas every year and a cup final on average only every 4 years ( based on my lifetime, with a win every 13.6 years) mean's I wont be missing this cup final if I can help it.:cb

[Gordy M]

I think if they changed the isolation rules to be in line with Engand then that may help. At the moment up here it is a 10 day isolation for a close contact, england is dont isolate until you test positive if you have had 2 vaccinations.....though obv things could change.

[Hibees1973]

No, it won't be played behind closed doors.

As it stands just now it seems the game is going ahead with a capacity crowd. My head says this is not right. There will come a time when the UK/Scottish Gov will put in tough restrictions. If they want to keep the NHS hospital covid admissions low, then restrictions should be put in place immediately. But all throughout covid the UK/Scottish govs have dithered and this is why the death rate across the UK is one of the worst in the world.

The best things to do is ban large unnecessary gatherings, including the final, and play the game at some point next year.

I have ticket for Sunday and will be in a quandary whether to go, if it's on.

[LaMotta]

SPFL competition to win 2 tickets for the final tweeted this evening. A nod in the direction of them being confident it's going ahead.

https://twitter.com/spfl/status/1470469408200048652

[Sir David Gray]

Would there be a cup parade if we win on Sunday?

Almost no chance of that I'd have thought.

[LaMotta]

No, it won't be played behind closed doors.

As it stands just now it seems the game is going ahead with a capacity crowd. My head says this is not right. There will come a time when the UK/Scottish Gov will put in tough restrictions. If they want to keep the NHS hospital covid admissions low, then restrictions should be put in place immediately. But all throughout covid the UK/Scottish govs have dithered and this is why the death rate across the UK is one of the worst in the world.

The best things to do is ban large unnecessary gatherings, including the final, and play the game at some point next year.

I have ticket for Sunday and will be in a quandary whether to go, if it's on.

As others have pointed out, The Scottish Government can't put tough restrictions in place without financial guarantees from UK Gov who need to announce restrictions and support package first. So if that is the right route to go down, its the UK Gov that should receive your anger for dithering.

[GreenPJ]

No, it won't be played behind closed doors.

As it stands just now it seems the game is going ahead with a capacity crowd. My head says this is not right. There will come a time when the UK/Scottish Gov will put in tough restrictions. If they want to keep the NHS hospital covid admissions low, then restrictions should be put in place immediately. But all throughout covid the UK/Scottish govs have dithered and this is why the death rate across the UK is one of the worst in the world.

The best things to do is ban large unnecessary gatherings, including the final, and play the game at some point next year.

I have ticket for Sunday and will be in a quandary whether to go, if it's on.

:agree:

[Ronniekirk]

I won’t be missing it What’s the point in bring triple jabbed if you can’t go to events
10 days self isolation is not sustainable imo



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[JimBHibees]

No, it won't be played behind closed doors.

As it stands just now it seems the game is going ahead with a capacity crowd. My head says this is not right. There will come a time when the UK/Scottish Gov will put in tough restrictions. If they want to keep the NHS hospital covid admissions low, then restrictions should be put in place immediately. But all throughout covid the UK/Scottish govs have dithered and this is why the death rate across the UK is one of the worst in the world.

The best things to do is ban large unnecessary gatherings, including the final, and play the game at some point next year.

I have ticket for Sunday and will be in a quandary whether to go, if it's on.

Surely they would need to close all shops in the last weekend before Christmas which will atttract many more people indoors than our outdoor game will.

[JimBHibees]

I won’t be missing it What’s the point in bring triple jabbed if you can’t go to events
10 days self isolation is not sustainable imo



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Agree entirely masks when necessary but will definitely be going.

[GreenCastle]

There will be a meeting tomorrow supposedly - probably linked to government announcement whatever that will be - so should know more either way.

[flash]

Double jabbed and boostered so bring it on.

If worst comes to worst having to self isolate over the holiday period is an added bonus.

[Hermit Crab]

Would there be a cup parade if we win on Sunday?


Yes but it would be strictly an unofficial gathering of people. No cup will be paraded to the masses.

[Hibees1973]

Let's face it, the final is an away game for Hibs and a home game for Celtic, geographically.

So, the Hibs support going through to Glasgow is likely the biggest away support to a football game across the whole of Europe this weekend. To my mind I cannot think of another cup final or major sporting occasion which will move thousands of people over a 3-4 hr period. Nearly 20,000 packed on buses/trains. Remember it's only a game of football and could be played at a more sensible time.

Is this not considered a super-spreader event by the Scottish Government I don't know what is.

I deem playing the game this weekend as unnecessary. Just postpone the game and re-arrange it to another date at a suitable time.

[WeeRussell]

I won’t be missing it What’s the point in bring triple jabbed if you can’t go to events
10 days self isolation is not sustainable imo



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To help prevent you and other people from dying?

[B.H.F.C]

Let's face it, the final is an away game for Hibs and a home game for Celtic, geographically.

So, the Hibs support going through to Glasgow is likely the biggest away support to a football game across the whole of Europe this weekend. To my mind I cannot think of another cup final or major sporting occasion which will move thousands of people over a 3-4 hr period. Nearly 20,000 packed on buses/trains. Remember it's only a game of football and could be played at a more sensible time.

Is this not considered a spreader event by the Scottish Government I don't know what is.

I deem playing the game this weekend as unnecessary. Just postpone the game and re-arrange it to another date at a suitable time.

There’ll be as many (if not more) Rangers fans travelling in to Glasgow this weekend for their game from all over the place.

[Jamesie]

Let's face it, the final is an away game for Hibs and a home game for Celtic, geographically.

So, the Hibs support going through to Glasgow is likely the biggest away support to a football game across the whole of Europe this weekend. To my mind I cannot think of another cup final or major sporting occasion which will move thousands of people over a 3-4 hr period. Nearly 20,000 packed on buses/trains. Remember it's only a game of football and could be played at a more sensible time.

Is this not considered a super-spreader event by the Scottish Government I don't know what is.

I deem playing the game this weekend as unnecessary. Just postpone the game and re-arrange it to another date at a suitable time.

Agree with all of this 100%.

[Jamesie]

There’ll be as many (if not more) Rangers fans travelling in to Glasgow this weekend for their game from all over the place.

That should be postponed too then.

[GreenCastle]

Let's face it, the final is an away game for Hibs and a home game for Celtic, geographically.

So, the Hibs support going through to Glasgow is likely the biggest away support to a football game across the whole of Europe this weekend. To my mind I cannot think of another cup final or major sporting occasion which will move thousands of people over a 3-4 hr period. Nearly 20,000 packed on buses/trains. Remember it's only a game of football and could be played at a more sensible time.

Is this not considered a super-spreader event by the Scottish Government I don't know what is.

I deem playing the game this weekend as unnecessary. Just postpone the game and re-arrange it to another date at a suitable time.

They should really shut all the shops on Princes Street and George Street and other retail immediately and close the Christmas market too.

Postpone the Hibs game tomorrow and the 50,000 attending Ibrox Thursday.

Plus postpone all the English Premier league games tomorrow, Wednesday and Thursday.

Surely that would make sense ?

[Ronniekirk]

To help prevent you and other people from dying?

If your triple jabbed you would need to be really unlucky to end up seriously I’ll never mind dying Article on the news tonight from South Africa saying the new variant is not as severe as previous variants
That might change but we have to live with this People will make their own choices but having just started goi g back to the football and concerts am not going to give that up unless there is clear evidence it’s needed



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[B.H.F.C]

That should be postponed too then.

And millions of people all over Britain will be on trains and buses (as it stands) heading in to city centres for the last weekend of Christmas shopping, days and nights out etc.

They either drop stuff happening or they don’t IMO.

[inglisavhibs]

To help prevent you and other people from dying?
There is no evidence to suggest recent football matches in Scotland have caused deaths. Sound like you would like us all to be locked down again.

[He's here!]

As others have pointed out, The Scottish Government can't put tough restrictions in place without financial guarantees from UK Gov who need to announce restrictions and support package first. So if that is the right route to go down, its the UK Gov that should receive your anger for dithering.

That's not the case. They have a whole raft of emergency powers, including the ability to lock down any part - or indeed all - of Scotland. I don't think anyone's dithering this time round, just desperately trying to avoid worst case scenarios if possible.

Postponing some football games isn't that big a deal when set against the nation's safety.

[Gordy M]

That's not the case. They have a whole raft of emergency powers, including the ability to lock down any part - or indeed all - of Scotland. I don't think anyone's dithering this time round, just desperately trying to avoid worst case scenarios if possible.

Postponing some football games isn't that big a deal when set against the nation's safety.

They may have the power to do it......they dont have the money. They have already said this. If you lock places down you have to pay the workers affected.

[Carheenlea]

There’ll be as many (if not more) Rangers fans travelling in to Glasgow this weekend for their game from all over the place.


:agree:

And there will be a huge number of Celtic fans travelling from all over the central belt and beyond as well to attend the final.

[Ronniekirk]

To help prevent you and other people from dying?

https://apple.news/AcbrfQYveQ8m4ff65P_Q7BQ


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[LunasBoots]

I won’t be missing it What’s the point in bring triple jabbed if you can’t go to events
10 days self isolation is not sustainable imo



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I'd imagine alot of us are still only double jabbed and awaiting being offered the booster....What about us?

[norhfc]

They have just closed our pubs/clubs here in Norway, home office and many more restrictions, not sure about large gatherings tho, our local team Brann are in a relegation play off tonight and thats going ahead.

[HH81]

They have just closed our pubs/clubs here in Norway, home office and many more restrictions, not sure about large gatherings tho, our local team Brann are in a relegation play off tonight and thats going ahead.

With a full crowd?

[norhfc]

With a full crowd?

Looks like its to be played behind closed doors now, but not official yet. The new restrictions come in to force today so its not been announced yet.

[norhfc]

Looks like its to be played behind closed doors now, but not official yet. The new restrictions come in to force today so its not been announced yet.

Just read its 10% of the capacity, thats 2000 tickets for the home game and 600 for the away game.

[JimBHibees]

There’ll be as many (if not more) Rangers fans travelling in to Glasgow this weekend for their game from all over the place.

And many more down south travelling to all the big clubs games. Plus multiples more doing xmas shopping all over the country. Should just do it with reinforcement of mask wearing and passport checked no imo.

[PatHead]

They did cancel Ann old firm game on the Friday at the start of the last lockdown. Would rule nothing out.

[Jones28]

Will be enhanced use of vaccine passport


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Need the infrastructure in place if it’s going to work, the system is only as good as the people administering it.

[CallumLaidlaw]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211214/6547693c3d23dff28695f7a7061ccab9.jpg
This seems to indicate we might be ok.


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[Sir David Gray]

I'm going full circle on this now.

Prior to Sturgeon's briefing last Friday I thought there was no danger of them being postponed.

Then the briefing last Friday made a postponement inevitable in my eyes.

However I think the strategy over the last couple of days seems to suggest that we're throwing everything at the booster programme. I think we'll try and get as many boosters done over the next few weeks and assess where we are in January. Therefore I think the match on Sunday will be ok but I do think restrictions on large events will come in next month.

[GreenCastle]

If folk can’t get a booster in Edinburgh currently it’s worth trying Rosyth and Fife - there were appointments for the next few days at several places.

We will find out about the game today after the meeting.

[Steven79]

If folk can’t get a booster in Edinburgh currently it’s worth trying Rosyth and Fife - there were appointments for the next few days at several places.

We will find out about the game today after the meeting.Surely they aren't going to pull the game at the last minute?

If they close football down while leaving things like clothes shops open then they will get one hell of a backlash..

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[bingo70]

Surely they aren't going to pull the game at the last minute?

If they close football down while leaving things like clothes shops open then they will get one hell of a backlash..

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It could get pulled at the last minute because of positive covid tests within the squads.

That’s the real threat to the game on Sunday I think.

It would be good to hear if the club have any plans to take the players anywhere in the build up just to keep them out of harms way.

[DH1875]

I'm not going. Work have basically asked that I don't go as I'm a frontline worker. They can't stop me but have asked. and being a manager I'd feel awful if I went into work on Monday and infected the team and ruined their Christmas. That lead me to think about my wife and kids and how it's crap if I get it and they then can't go anywhere or see anyone over Christmas.
If I were younger and had no responsibilities I'd 100% be going though.

[FilipinoHibs]

It could get pulled at the last minute because of positive covid tests within the squads.

That’s the real threat to the game on Sunday I think.

It would be good to hear if the club have any plans to take the players anywhere in the build up just to keep them out of harms way.

The new variant is sweeping through the EPL,already a game off tonight.

[GreenCastle]

Surely they aren't going to pull the game at the last minute?

If they close football down while leaving things like clothes shops open then they will get one hell of a backlash..

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Agreed - there are a lot of things open / happening in life that they could immediately shut down but they haven’t.

I also feel for folk who had operations and other treatment lined up and now it’s being delayed.

The update today from the government is at around 2.05pm. Not sure if the meeting about the game is before or after this though.

[DH1875]

How long did they wait to postpone last night's Sheffield United game?

[bingo70]

The new variant is sweeping through the EPL,already a game off tonight.

Exactly.

I think we’ll be lucky if there’s another couple of weekends of matches and then there’ll need to be a break of sorts until boosters etc can catch up.

I really think the chances of both clubs getting away with it this weekend must be very slim.

[greenginger]

The new variant is sweeping through the EPL,already a game off tonight.

42 positive tests out of a total of 3805 tests done .

That’s 1% , not exactly sweeping through !

[bingo70]

42 positive tests out of a total of 3805 tests done .

That’s 1% , not exactly sweeping through !

That’s now though, wait and see what it’s like in a weeks time.

Out of interest, do you know how many positive tests there were last week.

[BILLYHIBS]

Anybody want to check where Hearts are just in case the League is pulled today ?

Don’t want anymore tantrums fae Budgie

Better still better check where we are 😃

[flash]

Another option for them could be to say only people who have had the booster can attend large scale events.

[Since90+2]

Speaking with the wife about this and there's a good chance both of us won't attend. I think the chances of one of us catching covid must be fairly high and we can't risk losing Christmas as we have a 2.5 year old daughter.

It wouldn't be fair to have a child that age miss out on the best time of the year and have to sit indoors for 10 days if it happened.

[04Sauzee]

Speaking with the wife about this and there's a good chance both of us won't attend. I think the chances of one of us catching covid must be fairly high and we can't risk losing Christmas as we have a 2.5 year old daughter.

It wouldn't be fair to have a child that age miss out on the best time of the year and have to sit indoors for 10 days if it happened.

I absolutely understand your reasoning and very much doubt you will be the only ones not attending for similar reasons.

[bingo70]

Sunday is my Christmas Day.

Getting to stay in the house all day and not see anybody on Christmas Day sounds magic but maybe I’m just a miserable ******* 😂

[500miles]

I've bought my ticket, but with a 5 day old bairn I'm really keeping my eye on the covid numbers. I'll also be asking my family members who do go to give it until Christmas day before coming round again.

I think it would be prudent to move the game given the circumstances, as I'm not the only one I know making these considerations.

[Coco Bryce]

The new variant is sweeping through the EPL,already a game off tonight.

Hardly sweeping through.

What is it with people and mass hysteria.

[Lee Marvin]

Speaking with the wife about this and there's a good chance both of us won't attend. I think the chances of one of us catching covid must be fairly high and we can't risk losing Christmas as we have a 2.5 year old daughter.

It wouldn't be fair to have a child that age miss out on the best time of the year and have to sit indoors for 10 days if it happened.

I'm in a similar boat. At the moment, I'm going but I'm driving through an instead of the planned all day sesh.

This mitigates a reasonable amount of the risk, whilst obviously not taking it away completely.

[Heisenberg]

Fairly sure it’ll go ahead at full capacity. There’s been no noises about really strong restrictions coming back in yet.

[Steven79]

Fairly sure it’ll go ahead at full capacity. There’s been no noises about really strong restrictions coming back in yet.They can't unless we have furlough again.

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[Since90+2]

I'm in a similar boat. At the moment, I'm going but I'm driving through an instead of the planned all day sesh.

This mitigates a reasonable amount of the risk, whilst obviously not taking it away completely.

Thats what we are considering but are wary as it's not a "normal" game. Cup final, lots shouting, lots of signing, lots of drunk folk and wild celebrations ect.

[Cod Boy]

Celtic a lot of players injured they probably want it off till later date

[flash]

Thats what we are considering but are wary as it's not a "normal" game. Cup final, lots shouting, lots of signing, lots of drunk folk and wild celebrations ect.

It's outdoors so you would be really unlucky to pick anything up.

[Brightside]

It's outdoors so you would be really unlucky to pick anything up.

It’s the getting there that’s the issue. Teams are already using multiple buses and cars now whilst we will all go through packed into seats / standing with no social distancing. This thing is spreading like mad. I’m currently self isolating due to contact (negative test).

[Keith_M]

How about if we all promise to wear masks, don't drink and sit quietly in our own seats, while respecting other people's boundaries?






Sorry, silly question

:wink:

[flash]

It’s the getting there that’s the issue. Teams are already using multiple buses and cars now whilst we will all go through packed into seats / standing with no social distancing. This thing is spreading like mad. I’m currently self isolating due to contact (negative test).

Yeah I know but the poster was talking about going through in the car.
I hope its rescheduled if there are any restrictions put in place.

[J-C]

It's outdoors so you would be really unlucky to pick anything up.

Packed buses and most going to a venue somewhere to drink before the game, you can guarantee very little if any social distancing taking place.

[RossScott1991]

Even if the cup final is effected I don’t see why they can’t just move it to March time when it was played before.

[B.H.F.C]

Even if the cup final is effected I don’t see why they can’t just move it to March time when it was played before.

There’ll probably be another variant on the go by then.

I know folk have different feelings about it but, for me, need to try and get on with things best we can. And those that don’t think it’s worth the risk won’t take it.

[Ronniekirk]

I'd imagine alot of us are still only double jabbed and awaiting being offered the booster....What about us?

At present all you need is to be double jabbed to get into football match That hasn’t changed


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[SHODAN]

I'm starting to think the cup final is going to be the last "big" event before we shut down over the new year.

[LunasBoots]

Not sure what you mean mate? Basically nothing that gets announced tomorrow will affect the game.

Hopefully not, fingers crossed, i suppose i just cant see how anyone can 'socially distance' in a pub on matchday.