Is there a chance the League Cup final will be played behind closed doors?

[LunasBoots]

This is the best chance to win it now.

Their next trip to the supermarket/work/pub or walk could cause them to catch it.

Be sensible and take few risks as possible.

Yup, will be wearing my mask and taking hand sanitizer, think all fans should be taking those precautions not enough have been since the start of the season

[Gmack7]

Not much responsibility in evidence from Celtic players and fans last night:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/59672162

On that evidence I wonder how many Celtic fans are worrying about attending the final. Not many if last night's away support is indicative of the prevailing attitude.

One of them may well have passed it their own player

[Jay]

That's a choice only you can make.

I always thought laid there will I ever get back to Cougar Park or Easter road again. Then when out I hid away for months and months.

As soon as they opened stadiums I just had to take the step to get back. So glad I did and now I can live again.


And would you risk catching it again and go through that again...or wait a couple of months and go when the risk is much lower? Same game, less risk.

[HH81]

And would you risk catching it again and go through that again...or wait a couple of months and go when the risk is much lower? Same game, less risk.

I just think everything you do is a risk these days. In order to get over this pandemic some risk have to be taken or we will end up in a loop forever.

So far so good. I come to the game and leave has been my motto for Hibs games this season. No pubs etc. Took as little risks as possible.

They reckon if I catch it again it's very unlikely I would be that poorly. Sometimes you just have to go with it.

[hibbysam]

A temporary “circuit breaker” lockdown is the only way to save Christmas and protect the NHS, Nicola Sturgeon’s scientific advisers have said https://t.co/EW6g4nvucR

Way to enjoy Christmas is to ignore the noise and look at the cold hard facts. Nobody has even tried to counteract claims from South Africa that this is far milder than Delta. Do what’s right for you, but all this talk of lockdowns again are absolute nonsense. If you want to go to the football, go. If you want to enjoy Christmas, enjoy it.

[HH81]

One other thing they opened clothes shops etc before stadiums, used to piss me right off at the time. There is no justification for it.

If you stop the football this weekend then every shop needs to close same day except supermarkets. Includes pubs too

[CallumLaidlaw]

In case you haven't seen it yet Amy MacDonald's concert has just been cancelled in the last half an hour.

https://twitter.com/Amy__Macdonald/status/1471534586916130821?t=mtI2PBWjmvn-NFnb-UEndA&s=19

Had seen it but thanks [emoji106]


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[Jay]

I just think everything you do is a risk these days. In order to get over this pandemic some risk have to be taken or we will end up in a loop forever.

So far so good. I come to the game and leave has been my motto for Hibs games this season. No pubs etc. Took as little risks as possible.

They reckon if I catch it again it's very unlikely I would be that poorly. Sometimes you just have to go with it.


I really hope your right. I remember how ill you were at the time.
I've faced meeting my maker a few times in recent years and it definitely changes your perspective but I'd definitely not be risking shortening what life I've got left for something that can be postponed . I've fought too hard for that

[SHODAN]

I now think it should be postponed.

[HH81]

I really hope your right. I remember how ill you were at the time.
I've faced meeting my maker a few times in recent years and it definitely changes your perspective but I'd definitely not be risking shortening what life I've got left for something that can be postponed . I've fought too hard for that

Yes I was really ill very close to not making it. Guess that goes one of two ways and I ended up picking to try get back to normal as you never know when your time is up.

[Tommy75]

We’ve shelled out £120 for tickets and the coach which I won’t get back. It was always a terrible date for a cup final with everything that normally goes on at Christmas, especially financially. The fact we’re now facing the worst point in the pandemic so far (not my words) would make this sort of event utter madness. You only have to watch the World darts on TV to see how people are taking advise and acting responsibly, not.


Who said 'the fact we’re now facing the worst point in the pandemic so far' - surely last March/April was the worst when there was no vaccine and 500 deaths a day in the UK was the norm? Can't help but think there is a bit of scaremongering going on by whoever said that.

[Moulin Yarns]

Goodbye Mr Mackenzie were Barrowlands gig of the year in 2019.

So, with all due respect, GIRUY 😋😋

Whatever happened to that lassie from portobello that used to sing with them?

[CropleyWasGod]

Whatever happened to that lassie from portobello that used to sing with them?

If you mean Shirley, she's from Stockbridge. :greengrin

Rona is still with them.

[Real Emerald]

Who said 'the fact we’re now facing the worst point in the pandemic so far' - surely last March/April was the worst when there was no vaccine and 500 deaths a day in the UK was the norm? Can't help but think there is a bit of scaremongering going on by whoever said that.

It was said by Chris Whitty while being questioned at the parliamentary committee today. I’d rather listen to him than listen to Bojo lying through his teeth about “the right thing to do” in order to gain favour with his Tory backbenchers.

[LunasBoots]

It was said by Chris Whitty while being questioned at the parliamentary committee today. I’d rather listen to him than listen to Bojo lying through his teeth about “the right thing to do” in order to gain favour with his Tory backbenchers.

Scientists will always come up with worst case scenarios though, I'm never sure when to believe them or not if I'm honest, we've had people dying in the UK every day from COVID since the beginning of the pandemic but only now there's a new variant do people want to lockdown again, all a bit strange to me

[Northernhibee]

Scientists will always come up with worst case scenarios though, I'm never sure when to believe them or not if I'm honest, we've had people dying in the UK every day from COVID since the beginning of the pandemic but only now there's a new variant do people want to lockdown again, all a bit strange to me

Scientists deal with facts.

[Jones28]

Scientists will always come up with worst case scenarios though, I'm never sure when to believe them or not if I'm honest, we've had people dying in the UK every day from COVID since the beginning of the pandemic but only now there's a new variant do people want to lockdown again, all a bit strange to me

We literally just broke the record number of cases. We don’t know what’s going to happen with this new variant: surely to hell the sensible thing to do would be softly softly until we know for sure what’s happening with it.

[Bishop Hibee]

My youngest brother and a cousin won’t make the final due to positive covid tests. I’d imagine there will be a lot of fans in the same position. Tickets reallocated to good Hibees.

[Real Emerald]

Scientists will always come up with worst case scenarios though, I'm never sure when to believe them or not if I'm honest, we've had people dying in the UK every day from COVID since the beginning of the pandemic but only now there's a new variant do people want to lockdown again, all a bit strange to me

I agree that forecasts and advise from scientists will almost always favour the worst case and be cautious. However, we’re talking about postponing a football match for a few months so people can be both safe and available to enjoy Christmas and also enjoy the final at a slightly later date. Chris Whitty and Sturgeon plus all the acts cancelling their gigs are obviously concerned about mass infections. It’s a game of football at the end of the day that can be played at anytime. I think it should be postponed but respect other peoples opinions too.

[HH81]

I agree that forecasts and advise from scientists will almost always favour the worst case and be cautious. However, we’re talking about postponing a football match for a few months so people can be both safe and available to enjoy Christmas and also enjoy the final at a slightly later date. Chris Whitty and Sturgeon plus all the acts cancelling their gigs are obviously concerned about mass infections. It’s a game of football at the end of the day that can be played at anytime. I think it should be postponed but respect other peoples opinions too.

Should every single restaurant, pub, shop (excluding food) be shut at the same time as the football is cancelled?

[Moulin Yarns]

If you mean Shirley, she's from Stockbridge. :greengrin

Rona is still with them.

I thought Shirley went to porty High? Im from Stockbridge and don't remember her, mind you, I'm also 10 years older than her.


Edit. If wiki is correct she went to my school.

[Real Emerald]

Should every single restaurant, pub, shop (excluding food) be shut at the same time as the football is cancelled?

I’ve never been in a shop where everyone was pished, jumping around and cuddling each other. It’s a completely different argument, folk can distance and be sensible in a shop, pub or restaurant. I can only say the day we won the Scottish cup was very enjoyable, never to be forgotten carnage. The same would happen on Sunday, it’s nothing like shopping or going for a meal.

[Leith Green]

Scientists deal with facts.


And permutation’s

[LunasBoots]

I agree that forecasts and advise from scientists will almost always favour the worst case and be cautious. However, we’re talking about postponing a football match for a few months so people can be both safe and available to enjoy Christmas and also enjoy the final at a slightly later date. Chris Whitty and Sturgeon plus all the acts cancelling their gigs are obviously concerned about mass infections. It’s a game of football at the end of the day that can be played at anytime. I think it should be postponed but respect other peoples opinions too.

Aye, totally respect your opinion, my auld man pretty much shares the same view as yourself that it should be called off and is very wary about going due to being a bit older and not as well as he once was, I've told him he will be fine but he too a end aisle seat and will wear his mask etc just as a precaution.

[hibbysam]

We literally just broke the record number of cases. We don’t know what’s going to happen with this new variant: surely to hell the sensible thing to do would be softly softly until we know for sure what’s happening with it.

We certainly have a very good idea based on a country that had far less vaccines (c26%) and far less data to go on this new variant.

[Jones28]

We certainly have a very good idea based on a country that had far less vaccines (c26%) and far less data to go on this new variant.

I still don’t see the problem with being cautious.

Doing what we’re doing just means we’re going to get slammed with harder restrictions in January.

[Libby Hibby]

I’m going to stick my neck out and say this cup final is going ahead.

[Real Emerald]

Aye, totally respect your opinion, my auld man pretty much shares the same view as yourself that it should be called off and is very wary about going due to being a bit older and not as well as he once was, I've told him he will be fine but he too a end aisle seat and will wear his mask etc just as a precaution.

I’m isolating due to a family member also with a ticket testing positive. TBH I’m not worried at all about catching it as I’ve been triple jabbed. I can’t go anyway but my worry would have been having to isolate and missing out on our family Christmas for everyone involved. It just seems a totally unnecessary risk putting many thousands of people at risk six days before Christmas. And I’ll get to go if it’s postponed 😂

[hibbysam]

I still don’t see the problem with being cautious.

Doing what we’re doing just means we’re going to get slammed with harder restrictions in January.

Restrictions now or restrictions in January, it’s already raging through the population. For me there shouldn’t be any additional restrictions, there isn’t any in SA where vaccine numbers are lower by miles, yet they are pretty much over it already. The same scientists and experts told us cases weren’t jmportant and it was all about deaths and hospitalisations, now suddenly cases matter again.

[HH81]

I’ve never been in a shop where everyone was pished, jumping around and cuddling each other. It’s a completely different argument, folk can distance and be sensible in a shop, pub or restaurant. I can only say the day we won the Scottish cup was very enjoyable, never to be forgotten carnage. The same would happen on Sunday, it’s nothing like shopping or going for a meal.


You are just as likely to catch it at them places than the football IMO.

[lord bunberry]

I’m going to stick my neck out and say this cup final is going ahead.
I don’t think there’s any doubt about it. If it was going to be cancelled it would’ve happened by now. Everything that’s happened with this new variant has been predicted by the scientists, tomorrow will see another huge rise in cases it won’t come as a surprise to anyone in government that would make a decision to stop football matched going ahead.

[Real Emerald]

You are just as likely to catch it at them places than the football IMO.

You are absolutely correct and that’s why we’re now shopping online and avoiding pubs and restaurants until we have at least had our family Christmas. After Christmas I’m quite happy to go out and self isolate if need be. I’m absolutely gutted at missing a cup final, the last one I missed was 1979.

P.S. This is all lockdown by stealth putting hospitality, taxis, suppliers etc. etc. out of business because funding isn’t available to do the right thing. I don’t want to politicise this but my heart bleeds for these poor businesses that have now lost Christmas and have no government funding or furlough to help them through. As long as the backbenchers are happy though! 😡

[kaimendhibs]

Still not sure it will happen. Septic moaning about small squad in Europe, if they ask SPFL to postpone it, wouldnt
shock me if they did

[HH81]

You are absolutely correct and that’s why we’re now shopping online and avoiding pubs and restaurants until we have at least had our family Christmas. After Christmas I’m quite happy to go out and self isolate if need be. I’m absolutely gutted at missing a cup final, the last one I missed was 1979.

I am happy for them to cancel the football but only of they close everything down.

My preference is to play the game though as mentioned above.

[Since90+2]

Still not sure it will happen. Septic moaning about small squad in Europe, if they ask SPFL to postpone it, wouldnt
shock me if they did

They won't just postpone it because Celtic ask them too. If the game is postponed then all football will stop.

They are not going to postpone our game and tell every other club to crack on with their games.

[cabbageandribs1875]

We’ve shelled out £120 for tickets and the coach which I won’t get back. It was always a terrible date for a cup final with everything that normally goes on at Christmas, especially financially. The fact we’re now facing the worst point in the pandemic so far (not my words) would make this sort of event utter madness. You only have to watch the World darts on TV to see how people are taking advise and acting responsibly, not.



i was reading a post on fb yesterday from a guy who lives in the south east of england saying he is visiting Glasgow and was amazed at how many in the city were taking precautions by wearing masks compared to where he's from

[HH81]

i was reading a post on fb yesterday from a guy who lives in the south east of england saying he is visiting Glasgow and was amazed at how many in the city were taking precautions by wearing masks compared to where he's from

It's true. A couple of weeks ago pretty much no one in England were taking precautions.

Each trip I have made up to Scotland has been like going to a different world.

[kaimendhibs]

They won't just postpone it because Celtic ask them too. If the game is postponed then all football will stop.

They are not going to postpone our game and tell every other club to crack on with their games.
Have you seen whats happening in England? Games off but others going ahead

[Leith Green]

I’m going to stick my neck out and say this cup final is going ahead.

I think matches before xmas will be okay. I reckon after xmas it will be new restrictions and either empty stadiums or reduced capacity judging by latest comments from holyrood

[hibbysam]

It's true. A couple of weeks ago pretty much no one in England were taking precautions.

Each trip I have made up to Scotland has been like going to a different world.

Has it made much difference? Until this new variant came along I was trying not to concern myself with numbers/comparisons etc. From afar it doesn’t seem like there has been a massive difference between Scotland and England which I’d expect if these precautions were having any sort of an effect.

[Real Emerald]

i was reading a post on fb yesterday from a guy who lives in the south east of england saying he is visiting Glasgow and was amazed at how many in the city were taking precautions by wearing masks compared to where he's from

I was at the Cheltenham November race meeting. In England no masks were required at all and none were worn. The indoor stuffy bars were absolutely rammed with folk all squashed up in huge queues at the bars. So yes, that’s correct.

[Scottie]

i was reading a post on fb yesterday from a guy who lives in the south east of england saying he is visiting Glasgow and was amazed at how many in the city were taking precautions by wearing masks compared to where he's from
I'm in Windsor and it's the same here. Hardly anyone wearing masks, coughing & spluttering everywhere. Xmas parties going on as usual. This Omicron is ripping through the population like a ******g tornado here.

[Real Emerald]

I'm in Windsor and it's the same here. Hardly anyone wearing masks, coughing & spluttering everywhere. Xmas parties going on as usual. This Omicron is ripping through the population like a ******g tornado here.

I’d like to see the figures from the Ally Pally, it will be a larger checkout than 170 I would bet.

[HH81]

Has it made much difference? Until this new variant came along I was trying not to concern myself with numbers/comparisons etc. From afar it doesn’t seem like there has been a massive difference between Scotland and England which I’d expect if these precautions were having any sort of an effect.

I stay away from the numbers too but from what I was reading on here it almost felt like Scotland were just as bad as England if not worst but can't be 100% sure.

[hibbysam]

I stay away from the numbers too but from what I was reading on here it almost felt like Scotland were just as bad as England if not worst but can't be 100% sure.

That was my thoughts but haven’t seen anything to say otherwise, and would’ve thought our media up here would’ve been all over it if our decision to carry on with precautions was having a big impact on numbers.

[green day]

I stay away from the numbers too but from what I was reading on here it almost felt like Scotland were just as bad as England if not worst but can't be 100% sure.
Scotland has had 9764 deaths.

If our deaths matched our population share (8.2%) that number would be 12000.

[Real Emerald]

That was my thoughts but haven’t seen anything to say otherwise, and would’ve thought our media up here would’ve been all over it if our decision to carry on with precautions was having a big impact on numbers.

It’s a very valid point as I don’t think the extra restrictions in Scotland did prove any better than England and we were amazed we didn’t get it at Cheltenham, It may have speeded up the spread of Omicron down there though but who knows?

[Real Emerald]

Scotland has had 9764 deaths.

If our deaths matched our population share (8.2%) that number would be 12000.

You also have to take account of the many more densely populated cities in England and the poor vaccine take up in some communities so isn’t really that easy to gauge.

[Broxburn Greens]

It’s a very valid point as I don’t think the extra restrictions in Scotland did prove any better than England and we were amazed we didn’t get it at Cheltenham, It may have speeded up the spread of Omicron down there though but who knows?

In reality though only the Saturday was “rammed” at the November meeting mate and I didn’t think it was that bad crowd wise but I’m probably comparing it against The Festival.

That said someone in our group did test positive in the days after although no one else in our group did.

[He's here!]

You also have to take account of the many more densely populated cities in England and the poor vaccine take up in some communities so isn’t really that easy to gauge.

Indeed. No accurate way to gauge it - and even if you could it likely wouldn't make any difference. We kept wearing masks in Scotland, for example, yet it's had no discernable effect in keeping Omicron any more at bay than elsewhere. Said it already but the latest advice on household restrictions will also prove to be little more than an attempt by politicians to be seen to be doing something. We either bite the bullet and focus entirely on the vaccinations/boosters (while taking whatever precautions we can around the more vulnerable) or we accept a world of eternal lockdowns IMHO.

[Real Emerald]

In reality though only the Saturday was “rammed” at the November meeting mate and I didn’t think it was that bad crowd wise but I’m probably comparing it against The Festival.

That said someone in our group did test positive in the days after although no one else in our group did.

It was the Saturday we were there and their policy of no drinks outside didn’t help the bar situation but that’s another matter not appropriate for this forum.

[hibbysam]

Wales bringing restrictions in… in nearly two weeks time. Let’s be honest if it’s so serious they’re not going to wait are they. Shambles.

[Broxburn Greens]

It was the Saturday we were there and their policy of no drinks outside didn’t help the bar situation but that’s another matter not appropriate for this forum.

With you, the Friday & Sunday were quiet mate.

They’ve had that policy of no drink outside designated areas for years though.

[Moulin Yarns]

We certainly have a very good idea based on a country that had far less vaccines (c26%) and far less data to go on this new variant.

Is that South Africa?

I'm a bit wary of using that as any comparison as they are in the middle of summer and all graphs show lower cases etc when we were in the summer. Right now we are just going into winter and the graphs are rising.

[Brightside]

I was at the Cheltenham November race meeting. In England no masks were required at all and none were worn. The indoor stuffy bars were absolutely rammed with folk all squashed up in huge queues at the bars. So yes, that’s correct.

Yep spot on. I was there too. We walked in with masks on 5 of us and no one else.

[hibbysam]

Is that South Africa?

I'm a bit wary of using that as any comparison as they are in the middle of summer and all graphs show lower cases etc when we were in the summer. Right now we are just going into winter and the graphs are rising.

Mr Leitch was out telling us today outside in winter is worse for a virus (or better for us). It doesn’t like the cold, wind, air etc.

The only reason we are wary about winter is due to the flu and therefore the strains on our health system.

[greenginger]

Scotland has had 9764 deaths.

If our deaths matched our population share (8.2%) that number would be 12000.

Scotland may have only 9764 covid related deaths , but it has 13,284 excess deaths.

The UK total of excess deaths is 146,539 and with 8.2 % of the population, our total should have been 12,016, but it’s not it’s 1268 deaths higher.

Scotland is not managing things better than rest of UK , if anything ,with death rates higher, things are worse.

[Bristolhibby]

Wales bringing restrictions in… in nearly two weeks time. Let’s be honest if it’s so serious they’re not going to wait are they. Shambles.

No one is going to pull the trigger on Christmas. It’s political suicide.

J

[GreenCastle]

Will be interesting to see what happens with the derby at Easter Road and Celtic v Rangers game.

There is a 2 week break after these games I think.

[hibbysam]

No one is going to pull the trigger on Christmas. It’s political suicide.

J

Exactly, yet they’ll tell you it’s all about health. Utter nonsense.

[Ronniekirk]

Mr Leitch was out telling us today outside in winter is worse for a virus (or better for us). It doesn’t like the cold, wind, air etc.

The only reason we are wary about winter is due to the flu and therefore the strains on our health system.

Well if we are wary about the flu the first minister said today flu jabs will be stopped for next few weeks to concentrate on boosters So they can’t be that bothered about Flu

[hibbysam]

Well if we are wary about the flu the first minister said today flu jabs will be stopped for next few weeks to concentrate on boosters So they can’t be that bothered about Flu

Was told that today by my boss, went for booster and flu jag and told he wasn’t allowed flu jag. Bit strange but suppose their priority must be boosters.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Was told that today by my boss, went for booster and flu jag and told he wasn’t allowed flu jag. Bit strange but suppose their priority must be boosters.


is he in a group that would normally receive the yearly flu jag

[hibbysam]

is he in a group that would normally receive the flu jag

No idea, he was booked in for both, and was advised when on site that he wasn’t getting his flu jab.

[Brummie_Hibs]

Too many folk being knocked sidewards by getting booster and flu jabs at same time. It's making a lot of folk unwell.

[cabbageandribs1875]

No idea, he was booked in for both, and was advised when on site that he wasn’t getting his flu jab.


strange, must be eligible then if he was offered one wonder if it's down to lack of stock, myself and daughter have had both jags in the last 3 weeks, not the point but Boots do flu jags for £14.99

[hibbysam]

strange, must be eligible then if he was offered one wonder if it's down to lack of stock, myself and daughter have had both jags in the last 3 weeks, not the point but Boots do flu jags for £14.99

I think it must just be speed and priority. They have promised the world regarding boosters and need to do all they can to try and produce.

[Weegreenman]

Too many folk being knocked sidewards by getting booster and flu jabs at same time. It's making a lot of folk unwell.

Got both my booster and flu jab the other day. No problem at all.

[hibeg]

Got both my booster and flu jab the other day. No problem at all.

Wife and I were the same, no problems for either of us.
Spoke to many people who have had both jabs. It was fine for the vast majority, a few said they were really tired for a day or two, but that was the only downside.

[Since452]

Booster for me tonight. All set for Sunday.

[hibsbollah]

It's true. A couple of weeks ago pretty much no one in England were taking precautions.

Each trip I have made up to Scotland has been like going to a different world.

I spent all day in Newcastle on Tuesday and the precautionary behaviours were basically the same as in Edinburgh.

[FilipinoHibs]

Booster for me tonight. All set for Sunday.

Takes 14 days to kick in 😉

[The dalmeny]

6788100 (tel:6788100)[/URL]]Got both my booster and flu jab the other day. No problem at all.

ditto, didn’t even have the dreaded sore arm. Controlled by having a couple of German biscuits after. Appreciate its not the same for everyone

[Since90+2]

Takes 14 days to kick in 😉

Not for the booster. Some additional protection is offered after 7 days according to Chris Witty.

[Alfred E Newman]

Too many folk being knocked sidewards by getting booster and flu jabs at same time. It's making a lot of folk unwell.

I don't know where you get your information but that is rubbish.
There is always the chance the the flu jab in can affect a small percentage of people but the vast majority have no side effects at all.
It's nonsense like this that is stopping people coming forward for their jab.

[CallumLaidlaw]

12.15 Sturgeon emergency update. Strap in folks.


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[Jamesie]

12.15 Sturgeon emergency update. Strap in folks.


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https://twitter.com/scotgov/status/1471788228189511685?t=r8dZm0kDnV9fyMhUYyFd6g&s=19

[Col2]

Absolutely convinced cup final will be postponed now.

I would be astonished if it’s not covered even as a “we are relooking at it” at 12pm press conference.

[Jamesie]

Absolutely convinced cup final will be postponed now.

I would be astonished if it’s not covered even as a “we are relooking at it” at 12pm press conference.

Is this based on intel or just a hunch?

[Andymac85]

Absolutely convinced cup final will be postponed now.

I would be astonished if it’s not covered even as a “we are relooking at it” at 12pm press conference.

I think they need to announce a decision one way or another today. I suspect it will be bad news.

[Heisenberg]

Don’t see them cancelling it now.

[SaulGoodman]

Just postpone it until March or something, I doubt too many people will be unhappy at that decision. Dare I say, it even makes sense.

[Pretty Boy]

12.15 Sturgeon emergency update. Strap in folks.


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No chance it will be anything big.

Confirmation omicron is now the dominant variant and a few threats mixed with some pleading around the new restrictions.

[bingo70]

Just postpone it until March or something, I doubt too many people will be unhappy at that decision. Dare I say, it even makes sense.

My concern is that by March we might be back playing behind closed doors again.

[Bishop Hibee]

50,000 at Ibrox tomorrow. If Sturgeon cancels football it should start immediately. I will be raging if the Hun game goes ahead and the final is postponed.

[Since452]

I'd be surprised and disappointed if it was cancelled. Can't continue to live our lives like this every time a new variant comes along.

[Col2]

Is this based on intel or just a hunch?

No intel. Leitch comments yesterday. Momentum in media. Livingston manager. If it’s not this weekend it will be early next week.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I wouldn’t be devastated if it’s postponed tbh

[Sir David Gray]

I don't think the match will be postponed now. There will be the usual warnings about how well Omicron spreads, how we need to keep up with the basic measures and reminding everyone about the measures being reintroduced in shops etc and working from home.

[Stewboy]

I don't think the match will be postponed now. There will be the usual warnings about how well Omicron spreads, how we need to keep up with the basic measures and reminding everyone about the measures being reintroduced in shops etc and working from home.

I think it might be pulled. How can you have guidance for working for home, one way systems and distancing in shops but then have 50,000 sat next to each other at games

[B.H.F.C]

Just postpone it until March or something, I doubt too many people will be unhappy at that decision. Dare I say, it even makes sense.

It’s not just our game to consider. If they postpone ours / move To closed doors then that’s all football going the same way. 50k at Ibrox tomorrow as well.

[Brightside]

I think it’s too late to postpone. I expect today to just be a numbers update It looks like we are back into the daily updates we used to get.

[Moulin Yarns]

Booster for me tonight. All set for Sunday.

The vaccine takes about 2 weeks to be fully effective though.

[Sir David Gray]

I think it might be pulled. How can you have guidance for working for home, one way systems and distancing in shops but then have 50,000 sat next to each other at games

I agree it seems a bit contradictory.

I just don't think it will be called off now.

[Steven79]

I think it’s too late to postpone. I expect today to just be a numbers update It looks like we are back into the daily updates we used to get.

They cancelled the St Johnstone game last year with much less notice and numbers were nowhere near as bad back then.

[bingo70]

It’s not just our game to consider. If they postpone ours / move To closed doors then that’s all football going the same way. 50k at Ibrox tomorrow as well.

The difference with ours is that ours is a cup game that can get played at any time.

With ours as well, you’re not often going to have the movement of around 22,000 people from one part of the country to the other.

I still think theres a good chance the game will be off but only because it’s inevitable squads are going to start getting hit with covid cases.

[WeeRussell]

I think it’s too late to postpone. I expect today to just be a numbers update It looks like we are back into the daily updates we used to get.

I don’t think there’s such a thing as too late to postpone when it comes to making the right decision in a pandemic. It’s not ideal but they’re not going to go ahead with what they think is the right thing to do just because it’s a couple of days away… we’ll I’d hope not anyway.

[Since90+2]

The difference with ours is that ours is a cup game that can get played at any time.

With ours as well, you’re not often going to have the movement of around 22,000 people from one part of the country to the other.

I still think theres a good chance the game will be off but only because it’s inevitable squads are going to start getting hit with covid cases.

I think ours is unique in that regard. The massive numbers of people moving from East to West (and back again), pre match build up in pubs and then the mass celebrations in pubs, houses and streets after the game.

I hope it's off to be honest. A cup final is a day out, aside from the health aspects I think it will be difficult to get in place with the new social distancing guidelines.

[Chorley Hibee]

Just postpone it until March or something, I doubt too many people will be unhappy at that decision. Dare I say, it even makes sense.

Of course it does, but I'm long past the point of seeing sense in almost anything either Holyrood or Westminster are doing now,

It's about time they took some responsibility.

[MrRobot]

Good chance it’s gonna get cancelled.

You can’t give a serious update about limiting your interaction with others households etc while allowing an event with 50,000 attending to go ahead.

[Carheenlea]

Good chance it’s gonna get cancelled.

You can’t give a serious update about limiting your interaction with others households etc while allowing an event with 50,000 attending to go ahead.

Agree. Fully expecting this to be canned this afternoon.

[Chorley Hibee]

I don’t think there’s such a thing as too late to postpone when it comes to making the right decision in a pandemic. It’s not ideal but they’re not going to go ahead with what they think is the right thing to do just because it’s a couple of days away… we’ll I’d hope not anyway.

Unfortunately that's exactly what they do. Look at Wales bringing in restrictions on nightclubs from 27th December and further restrictions on population after Christmas.

That's what I hate, if it's so bad then do it ****ing now and stop this abdication of responsibility because you don't want to 'cancel Christmas' or piss off football fans.

It's got beyond a joke now.

[B.H.F.C]

I think ours is unique in that regard. The massive numbers of people moving from East to West (and back again), pre match build up in pubs and then the mass celebrations in pubs, houses and streets after the game.

I hope it's off to be honest. A cup final is a day out, aside from the health aspects I think it will be difficult to get in place with the new social distancing guidelines.

In any other country I’d agree about the uniqueness. But there will be thousands heading from the East to Ibrox tomorrow. And even more heading up from Ayrshire and the like. You see the number of buses when you go to Ibrox, then you have the underground absolutely rammed with thousands more who then get on different trains heading all over the place when they get back in to the city centre.

[Pretty Boy]

From a football perspective if it is cancelled I'll be disappointed. We have a better chance against Celtic this weekend with the injuries they have than we may have in February or March or whatever when they are at full strength, even if we do bring in decent additions.

On the other hand I won't be that disappointed if it's off and announced as such today. The stress of the ever changing situation when trying to organise anything is a pain in the erse and a definitive answer would be good. I'm not particularly worried about catching covid, there's an inevitability about that at some point, but this close to Christmas the potential isolation is a concern. Add to that a cup final is supposed to be a big day out. A few beers, a sing song etc etc is all part of the day. The build up to this has a massive shadow hanging over it and it feels like a lot of the joy has been sucked out of it.

[Greenworld]

It's almost like people want it cancelled . To do so at this late stage is not on.
From Monday maybe but I don't think it yet merits the nuclear option.
Wear a mask follow simple commonsense and you will be fine.


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[Coco Bryce]

Good chance it’s gonna get cancelled.

You can’t give a serious update about limiting your interaction with others households etc while allowing an event with 50,000 attending to go ahead.

No chance!

Are they gonna cancel all games this weekend then as there will be 50k at Ibrox?

[JimBHibees]

From a football perspective if it is cancelled I'll be disappointed. We have a better chance against Celtic this weekend with the injuries they have than we may have in February or March or whatever when they are at full strength, even if we do bring in decent additions.

On the other hand I won't be that disappointed if it's off and announced as such today. The stress of the ever changing situation when trying to organise anything is a pain in the erse and a definitive answer would be good. I'm not particularly worried about catching covid, there's an inevitability about that at some point, but this close to Christmas the potential isolation is a concern. Add to that a cup final is supposed to be a big day out. A few beers, a sing song etc etc is all part of the day. The build up to this has a massive shadow hanging over it and it feels like a lot of the joy has been sucked out of it.

Agree with both points especially having a much better chance of winning now. Hope it is still on for that reason.

[Heisenberg]

No chance!

Are they gonna cancel all games this weekend then as there will be 50k at Ibrox?

I’d imagine they would, aye. Don’t think it’ll happen though.

[Since90+2]

In any other country I’d agree about the uniqueness. But there will be thousands heading from the East to Ibrox tomorrow. And even more heading up from Ayrshire and the like. You see the number of buses when you go to Ibrox, then you have the underground absolutely rammed with thousands more who then get on different trains heading all over the place when they get back in to the city centre.

I think the issue with us it's a cup final.

If we win you'll have a huge proportion of Edinburgh and the Lothians celebrating throughout the night and into the small hours in people's homes. That won't be happening with a run of the mill league game at Ibrox.

[J-C]

Stupid bloody time of year to have a final, a week before Christmas, should've been played early March.

I think they're worried about crammed coaches/cars/pubs etc, which could cause a huge spike.

[HH81]

Unfortunately that's exactly what they do. Look at Wales bringing in restrictions on nightclubs from 27th December and further restrictions on population after Christmas.

That's what I hate, if it's so bad then do it ****ing now and stop this abdication of responsibility because you don't want to 'cancel Christmas' or piss off football fans.

It's got beyond a joke now.

All shops except non essential ones, pubs and restaurants have to be closed too if football is axed.

[LaMotta]

Absolutely convinced cup final will be postponed now.

I would be astonished if it’s not covered even as a “we are relooking at it” at 12pm press conference.


I think they need to announce a decision one way or another today. I suspect it will be bad news.


Good chance it’s gonna get cancelled.

You can’t give a serious update about limiting your interaction with others households etc while allowing an event with 50,000 attending to go ahead.


Agree. Fully expecting this to be canned this afternoon.

Sturgeon will not mention anything specifically about the football in her media briefing.

Game will be going ahead.

[Since90+2]

Sturgeon will not mention anything specifcally about the football in her media briefing.

Game will be going ahead.

What is she going to say?

[LaMotta]

What is she going to say?


Omicron and covid numbers update.

Touch on funding for hospitality and related supply chain sectors.

Reiterate vaccination messaging.

Reiterate the limit social mixing if possible messaging.

[JimBHibees]

The biggest movement of people which will dwarf any football related events this weekend will be the hundreds of thousands travelling to do Christmas shopping in packed trains and buses.

[Since452]

Cancel the football at an outdoor venue but keep the shops open for them all to go Christmas shopping instead? Not going to happen.

[Jones28]

All shops except non essential ones, pubs and restaurants have to be closed too if football is axed.

Why? They can put distancing measures in place to be a lot safer than people staining side by side at a football game and in coaches and trains.

[Since90+2]

I don't understand the social distancing in pubs and how it's meant to be enforced. Table service is not mandatory so people are free to stand.

How can a bar possibly ensure people are keeping social distanced whilst standing? It's an impossible task.

[WeeRussell]

It's almost like people want it cancelled . To do so at this late stage is not on.
From Monday maybe but I don't think it yet merits the nuclear option.
Wear a mask follow simple commonsense and you will be fine.


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It’s almost like people want what’s best for everyone and not being selfish just because our team are playing in a final. There can be an argument on both sides but it doesn’t mean people aren’t big hibs fans because they have concerns so close to Christmas with their families.

[WeeRussell]

All shops except non essential ones, pubs and restaurants have to be closed too if football is axed.

No they don’t.

[Bristolhibby]

All shops except non essential ones, pubs and restaurants have to be closed too if football is axed.

Yes, this.

J

[Since90+2]

All shops except non essential ones, pubs and restaurants have to be closed too if football is axed.

The amount of people employed in those sectors is astronomical compared to football. The financial support required would be enormous and just isn't feasible.

Football could conceivably shut down for 2 weeks and then it's into a winter break anyway and it would have a small impact on the industry.

[MB62]

Stupid bloody time of year to have a final, a week before Christmas, should've been played early March.

I think they're worried about crammed coaches/cars/pubs etc, which could cause a huge spike.

:agree:

[FilipinoHibs]

Tickets no longer on sale for the final on Hibs website.

[HH81]

No they don’t.

Cause they do. You are just as likely to catch covid in these places as you are at the football.

Infact has there been any reported outbreaks from football games since it re-started? From fans I mean.

You see it regularly from the places I mentioned.

[greenginger]

They cancelled the St Johnstone game last year with much less notice and numbers were nowhere near as bad back then.


There was no covid vaccines then.

[HH81]

The amount of people employed in those sectors is astronomical compared to football. The financial support required would be enormous and just isn't feasible.

Football could conceivably shut down for 2 weeks and then it's into a winter break anyway and it would have a small impact on the industry.

Thought it was all about saving lives?

[JammyDoidger]

Imagine the media never existed, we had no radios, televisions etc..would people still be as concerned? You'd think folk were dropping like flys. We've been vaccinated nothing else we can do, can't keep putting our life's on hold. If your concerned stay indoors.

[Since452]

Tickets no longer on sale for the final on Hibs website.

Sounds pretty ominous

[HH81]

Why? They can put distancing measures in place to be a lot safer than people staining side by side at a football game and in coaches and trains.

People travel to all said places in buses, trains etc so all a risk.

[WeeRussell]

People travel to all said places in buses, trains etc so all a risk.

I’m drained. Okay you’re right - if the game is postponed on Sunday they’ll definitely shut every other place in the country as well.

[Cod Boy]

Tickets no longer on sale for the final on Hibs website.

Maybe sold out

[Pretty Boy]

Sounds pretty ominous

Or the ticket office is closed for collections tomorrow and there's no time left to post them out:wink:

[Callum_62]

Imagine the media never existed, we had no radios, televisions etc..would people still be as concerned? You'd think folk were dropping like flys. We've been vaccinated nothing else we can do, can't keep putting our life's on hold. If your concerned stay indoors.Really, nothing else we can do?

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[Jamesie]

Tickets no longer on sale for the final on Hibs website.

And there's zero chance of it having sold out this morning in the current climate.

[Since90+2]

Thought it was all about saving lives?

Not really sure how that addresses the point I made?

[Hibbyradge]

Or the ticket office is closed for collections tomorrow and there's no time left to post them out:wink:

I thought I read that the ticket office was opening tomorrow morning.

[FilipinoHibs]

Or the ticket office is closed for collections tomorrow and there's no time left to post them out:wink:

It was to be open from 10 to 1 on Saturday. There were still a few left when I looked about an hour ago.

[Northernhibee]

Imagine the media never existed, we had no radios, televisions etc..would people still be as concerned? You'd think folk were dropping like flys. We've been vaccinated nothing else we can do, can't keep putting our life's on hold. If your concerned stay indoors.

What happens if our hospitals end up unable to cope though? Is that OK if you get your football and the like?

There's a much finer balance than you're suggesting there.

[Callum_62]

What happens if our hospitals end up unable to cope though? Is that OK if you get your football and the like?

There's a much finer balance than you're suggesting there.It's fine. Just avoid the news [emoji106]

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[MrRobot]

I thought I read that the ticket office was opening tomorrow morning.

yeah posted it on their twitter page, open between 10 and 1 tomorrow

[kaimendhibs]

The biggest movement of people which will dwarf any football related events this weekend will be the hundreds of thousands travelling to do Christmas shopping in packed trains and buses.

Agree 100 per cent. And, the last Saturday before Xmas will see pubs and restaurants packed, then people getting on trains and buses full of drink. Dont see why football should be picked on.

[Moulin Yarns]

I don't understand the social distancing in pubs and how it's meant to be enforced. Table service is not mandatory so people are free to stand.

How can a bar possibly ensure people are keeping social distanced whilst standing? It's an impossible task.

I was in a pub in Edinburgh before the football on Tuesday and again on Wednesday lunchtime and I was a bit surprised that there were no screens anywhere at the bar. Is that normal now?

[Helensburghhibs]

Doubt she's going to do anything here. Just talking waffle as usual

[Stokesy's on fire]

Doubt she's going to do anything here. Just talking waffle as usual


Nothing new then..her and Boris are like a double act

[JimBHibees]

Nothing new then..her and Boris are like a double act

No comparison

[JammyDoidger]

What happens if our hospitals end up unable to cope though? Is that OK if you get your football and the like?

There's a much finer balance than you're suggesting there.

If you feel your immune system can't cope with covid or this 'weaker variant' shield yourself, and definitely don't put yourself in situations like Sunday, but for us that have been vaccinated, had covid and are young and healthy enough to get on with it, don't punish us against our will, it's barbaric.
And for us who do go to big events or whatever then stay away from the vulnerable for 10 days or so, just use your head and try and take the right precautions. Life must go on.

[Weegreenman]

One of the biggest problems for the final will be staffing it. Security/ Officials not in attendance because of the virus.

There’s already been problems with the trains earlier this week I’ve heard with a shortage of drivers.

I honestly can’t believe the Government haven’t stepped in and made the decision to reschedule the game.

As it stands I’m still going but I’d rather it was called off now.

[FilipinoHibs]

Game on

[Brightside]

So no change. Totally pointless pc.

[Stokesy's on fire]

No comparison

Both of them are utterly useless

[Helensburghhibs]

The problem I have with all of this is the govt deciding what is important to people.... the final is more important to me than being able to mix with another household on Christmas day . So why should they choose my priorities. Bring it on ........

[Jamesie]

David Wallace Lockhart asked the question re football and got a lot of recycled words about limiting social contact before a lament about lack of financial support mechanisms.

Not sure why financial support mechanisms are required to put the final off to Easter or indeed postpone the whole card for a week or two?

[ian cruise]

Tickets no longer on sale for the final on Hibs website.

Celtic sources reporting he gave 500 back that will be made available to Celtic supporters no idea how accurate it is. It was an article Google suggested I'd wasn't to read yesterday but can't find it to link to it now.

Point being, no tickets is not a definitive sign the game is off.

[SaulGoodman]

Keep your distance where possible, 2m apart in bars, shops etc.. 50,000 people at Ibrox and Hampden? That’s fine

Happy it’s going ahead but once again the messages are clear as mud and if I wasn’t a football fan I’d be asking questions over why it’s still going ahead.

[GreenCastle]

What happens if our hospitals end up unable to cope though? Is that OK if you get your football and the like?

There's a much finer balance than you're suggesting there.

Improving the NHS is another discussion - the NHS has some amazing people working for it but many staff are over worked and under paid - it’s time that changed including improving facilities.

Last time the various temporary hospitals were hardly used and many didn’t treat a single patient.

Important to keep things in perspective.

Don’t forget many appointments have been cancelled for other operations and treatments and that should not be forgotten.

[Sir David Gray]

Football events like 50k at Ibrox and 50k at Hampden at the weekend would likely be scrapped if the financial support was in place.

It's not so the game's on.

[Col2]

FM confirming that if she has the money she would go further on events and such like. Speaking to PM today.

Cup final still going ahead as of now but if things change re above I can see it being up in the air.

[Helensburghhibs]

Football events like 50k at Ibrox and 50k at Hampden at the weekend would likely be scrapped if the financial support was in place.

It's not so the game's on.

Yup just using the platform to dig the UK govt ... game on that's all that matters

[GreenCastle]

Game on - definitely won’t be off now following that question and reply they gave.

[Heisenberg]

Tickets can still be purchased at the TO, just no online sales.

[FilipinoHibs]

Celtic sources reporting he gave 500 back that will be made available to Celtic supporters no idea how accurate it is. It was an article Google suggested I'd wasn't to read yesterday but can't find it to link to it now.

Point being, no tickets is not a definitive sign the game is off.

There was a story in the press we had 500 to sell. About 100 when I last looked.Unsold Seats surrounded by Hibs fans sold to Celtic fans.

[Danderhall Hibs]

David Wallace Lockhart asked the question re football and got a lot of recycled words about limiting social contact before a lament about lack of financial support mechanisms.

Not sure why financial support mechanisms are required to put the final off to Easter or indeed postpone the whole card for a week or two?

:agree: What would it cost to move Sundays game to March? Seems mad that we’re being told to limit contact and stay in the house but the SPFL are saying arrive early.

[HibsGW]

Football events like 50k at Ibrox and 50k at Hampden at the weekend would likely be scrapped if the financial support was in place.

It's not so the game's on.

🕺 🕺🕺🕺🕺

[Since452]

Celtic sources reporting he gave 500 back that will be made available to Celtic supporters no idea how accurate it is. It was an article Google suggested I'd wasn't to read yesterday but can't find it to link to it now.

Point being, no tickets is not a definitive sign the game is off.

We gave Celtic 500 back when we only had about 150 left?

[Chorley Hibee]

Keep your distance where possible, 2m apart in bars, shops etc.. 50,000 people at Ibrox and Hampden? That’s fine

Yep, absolute bluff and bluster, once again, from our elected representatives that want US to make decisions on a global pandemic.

She wants everyone to limit their social interactions but won't take the necessary action required.

It makes you wonder what the point of Government even is if they want to abdicate responsibility at a moment such as this.

[Real Emerald]

:agree: What would it cost to move Sundays game to March? Seems mad that we’re being told to limit contact and stay in the house but the SPFL are saying arrive early.

She’s basically saying the game is on but don’t go to it. Absolutely useless mixed messages.

[Hibbyradge]

Yep, absolute bluff and bluster, once again, from our elected representatives that want US to make decisions on a global pandemic.

She wants everyone to limit their social interactions but won't take the necessary action required.

It makes you wonder what the point of Government even is if they want to abdicate responsibility at a moment such as this.

She can't take action because there's no money to compensate those affected.

[Heisenberg]

She’s basically saying the game is on but don’t go to it. Absolutely useless mixed messages.

Aye it’s mad. If they had the money to compensate the games would be off.

[ian cruise]

Keep your distance where possible, 2m apart in bars, shops etc.. 50,000 people at Ibrox and Hampden? That’s fine

Happy it’s going ahead but once again the messages are clear as mud and if I wasn’t a football fan I’d be asking questions over why it’s still going ahead.

No social distancing on public transport either which is a more like for like comparison with sitting in a sporting ground.

People will disagree over what should and shouldn't be happening but all we can do is:
Respect others boundaries (if someone in the stadium asks you to give them a bit of space when not seated do so).
Wear a mask when moving around unless you are exempt.
Don't go picking fights with people who aren't wearing masks, you don't know their circumstances.
Take hand sanitiser and use it more often than you think you need to.
If you want to see grandparents, grandchildren, etc over Christmas and New Year maybe reconsider crowded pubs, etc.

This is a stressful time everyone is dealing with it differently and has their own views. It's Christmas, we're celebrating being in a Cup final and potentially winning the damn thing so let's just be kind to each other.

[Springbank]

Nothing new then..her and Boris are like a double act

we learned more about you there than maybe you realise

[WestEndHibee]

Keep your distance where possible, 2m apart in bars, shops etc.. 50,000 people at Ibrox and Hampden? That’s fine

Happy it’s going ahead but once again the messages are clear as mud and if I wasn’t a football fan I’d be asking questions over why it’s still going ahead.

Aye its crazy! Must have a one way system in the supermarkets but once out of the supermarket, plough on off to hampden with a cities wort of people. How can that be said in all seriousness?

I guess everyone at the game should do their best to social distance when they can, for example a good pitch invasion when porteous scores the last minute winner will spread everyone out nicely.

[Since452]

The most sensible decision imo. If you don't want to go don't go but don't cancel it for everyone.

[Chorley Hibee]

She can't take action because there's no money to compensate those affected.

What compensation is involved in the postponement of a football match?

[ben johnson]

One of the biggest problems for the final will be staffing it. Security/ Officials not in attendance because of the virus.

There’s already been problems with the trains earlier this week I’ve heard with a shortage of drivers.

I honestly can’t believe the Government haven’t stepped in and made the decision to reschedule the game.

As it stands I’m still going but I’d rather it was called off now.


I was in Glasgow Central this morning and the 08.50 to Waverley was cancelled. Dreading getting the 09.15 as I expected it to be rammed but it was very quiet. A cancelled train on Sunday could be a different story.

[WeeRussell]

Yep, absolute bluff and bluster, once again, from our elected representatives that want US to make decisions on a global pandemic.

She wants everyone to limit their social interactions but won't take the necessary action required.

It makes you wonder what the point of Government even is if they want to abdicate responsibility at a moment such as this.

Just out of interest CH, have you very recently learned the word ‘abdicate’?

[Alfred E Newman]

FM confirming that if she has the money she would go further on events and such like. Speaking to PM today.

Cup final still going ahead as of now but if things change re above I can see it being up in the air.

Playing the old grievance card again.

[Springbank]

Yep, absolute bluff and bluster, once again, from our elected representatives that want US to make decisions on a global pandemic.

She wants everyone to limit their social interactions but won't take the necessary action required.

It makes you wonder what the point of Government even is *when you don't have control over your own resources* if they want to abdicate responsibility at a moment such as this.

agree, especially with the bit in bold you had left out

not much point sticking around in a disrespectful relationship, if, at the very point of crisis you ask for a meeting (with Boris) to chat through the options, he says no *to a meeting*

Game over, thank you for playing, let's get gone and join the 200+ other countries who are a bit more normal

[Real Emerald]

What compensation is involved in the postponement of a football match?

Exactly, it just moves the income to another date. It obviously disrupts plans but what is more important? Madness

[djsgrant]

If you feel your immune system can't cope with covid or this 'weaker variant' shield yourself, and definitely don't put yourself in situations like Sunday, but for us that have been vaccinated, had covid and are young and healthy enough to get on with it, don't punish us against our will, it's barbaric.
And for us who do go to big events or whatever then stay away from the vulnerable for 10 days or so, just use your head and try and take the right precautions. Life must go on.

Just a minute. I have been going to Easter Road for probably twice as many years as you have been alive. Why should I miss out or put myself at risk for a game that can be played anytime? Are older supporters who maybe aren't quite a healthy as you be excluded? That's a bit harsh.

[Chorley Hibee]

Just out of interest CH, have you very recently learned the word ‘abdicate’?

I'm well versed in the word thanks for asking, and it's a word synonymous with the actions (or lack of) of both the Scottish and UK government.

[WeeRussell]

I'm well versed in the word thanks for asking, and it's a word synonymous with the actions (or lack of) of both the Scottish and UK government.

Cheers - didn’t mean any offence. Just a wee light-hearted comment as I swear I’ve seen that word used more on here over the past 24 hours than I have anywhere previously in my entire life.

[WestEndHibee]

Just a minute. I have been going to Easter Road for probably twice as many years as you have been alive. Why should I miss out or put myself at risk for a game that can be played anytime? Are older supporters who maybe aren't quite a healthy as you be excluded? That's a bit harsh.

This is where I'm at. Family brought me up supporting hibs and we've always enjoyed the finals together! There's now going to be a big number of older, more susceptible fans missing out when they could and would go even just a couple months down the line and that's properly gutting.

[Chorley Hibee]

agree, especially with the bit in bold you had left out

not much point sticking around in a disrespectful relationship, if, at the very point of crisis you ask for a meeting (with Boris) to chat through the options, he says no *to a meeting*

Game over, thank you for playing, let's get gone and join the 200+ other countries who are a bit more normal

I fully support Scottish independence, but both the Scottish Government, and the football authorities, can make this decision independent of Westminster.

They're cowards.

[Moulin Yarns]

Yep, absolute bluff and bluster, once again, from our elected representatives that want US to make decisions on a global pandemic.

She wants everyone to limit their social interactions but won't take the necessary action required.

It makes you wonder what the point of Government even is if they want to abdicate responsibility at a moment such as this.

You want a draconian government to decide everything for you rather than make your own decision and take responsibility for your own actions!?

[Chorley Hibee]

Cheers - didn’t mean any offence. Just a wee light-hearted comment as I swear I’ve seen that word used more on here over the past 24 hours than I have anywhere previously in my entire life.

No worries, apologies if I seemed a bit curt.

[WeeRussell]

Just a minute. I have been going to Easter Road for probably twice as many years as you have been alive. Why should I miss out or put myself at risk for a game that can be played anytime? Are older supporters who maybe aren't quite a healthy as you be excluded? That's a bit harsh.

Yes - and you’re not to see your family over Christmas either as they’ve been instructed by JD to go to the football and enjoy themselves and then isolate for ten days like sensible young healthy people.

[WeeRussell]

No worries, apologies if I seemed a bit curt.

Not at all - we all need a bit laugh and niggle during these times 👍

[cabbageandribs1875]

She’s basically saying the game is on but don’t go to it. Absolutely useless mixed messages.


she can't win either way

cancel the game= Grrrrrrr what about this, what about that, think of business

Don't cancel the game= what on earth are they doing, Grrrrrrr think of the people


i'm sure somewhere in that message she's trying to tell people to actually be freakin sensible and take sensible precautions, unfortunately we know that not everyone is sensible, want to blame anyone ? blame the eejits that think they can no longer catch it because we've had three jags, blame the Covidiots, blame the anti-vaxxers now we're seemingly invincible so we don't have to wear a mask to protect ourselves, but wait a minute...what about those that we Can infect because we're too thick to realise exactly what the reasoning for wearing a mask is, a simple wee mask that can help save lifes, a simple wee hand wash that can help save your own life

[Hibbyradge]

What compensation is involved in the postponement of a football match?

This is the problem. People will focus on whatever suits their point of view.

I don't know exactly what would be needed in this case, but if the final gets cancelled, the transport companies wouldn't get paid. Caterers would lose. Tickets would have to be refunded. The logistics of holding a cup final are not small.

Then all the other games would go too and unless clubs are compensated, they can't pay the wages and the bills. Some would go to the wall.

Then, the argument will be, as you've seen on this thread already, if you cancel the football, you should close the shops, gyms, pubs etc etc.

She would close things if there was money to do so.

[Ronniekirk]

What happens if our hospitals end up unable to cope though? Is that OK if you get your football and the like?

There's a much finer balance than you're suggesting there.

The Goverment have consistently said the game is on I and plenty others will be going Those that want to sit at home snd fret can do so Those that don’t want to go for whatever reason won’t go and that's Their choice
But politicians and medical professionals in South Africa think we are already being over cautious
If in the next week or so hospitalisations start to rise the Goverment will take action
They may well put in further restrictions before then
But they have all the data and the game as things stand is on
We a have to find a way to live with this going forward
It’s not so long ago we were being encouraged to get flu jabs as they were worried flu could be bad this winter Now Nicola has said no flu jabs have to be given it’s all boosters
So in three weeks if there is a bad outbreak of flu do we all panic and lockdown society
We need to take proportionate action which we are doing and I think further restrictions will be brought in when needed

[hibeedonald]

Buzzing its on. Right decision. Those most worried about catching it can drive, arrive early, mask up and its unlikely you will be in too much close contact... unless Hibs win. In which case I think most fans who are willing to take the risk of going at all would probably take a positive for, as the memories will last forever.

[Chorley Hibee]

You want a draconian government to decide everything for you rather than make your own decision and take responsibility for your own actions!?

No, I expect our government to be responsible for decisions surrounding a global pandemic, especially when they are the ones privy to the data, and especially when they're elected to represent us.

If they can't make the necessary decisions now, then what is the point of them?

That isn't me advocating a draconian government, it's me wanting a responsible one.

[Skol]

No social distancing on public transport either which is a more like for like comparison with sitting in a sporting ground.

People will disagree over what should and shouldn't be happening but all we can do is:
Respect others boundaries (if someone in the stadium asks you to give them a bit of space when not seated do so).
Wear a mask when moving around unless you are exempt.
Don't go picking fights with people who aren't wearing masks, you don't know their circumstances.
Take hand sanitiser and use it more often than you think you need to.
If you want to see grandparents, grandchildren, etc over Christmas and New Year maybe reconsider crowded pubs, etc.

This is a stressful time everyone is dealing with it differently and has their own views. It's Christmas, we're celebrating being in a Cup final and potentially winning the damn thing so let's just be kind to each other.

IMO if you have a valid reason for not wearing a mask then you shouldnt be putting yourself at risk by mixing with others

[WeeRussell]

she can't win either way

cancel the game= Grrrrrrr what about this, what about that, think of business

Don't cancel the game= what on earth are they doing, Grrrrrrr think of the people


i'm sure somewhere in that message she's trying to tell people to actually be freakin sensible and take sensible precautions, unfortunately we know that not everyone is sensible, want to blame anyone ? blame the eejits that think they can no longer catch it because we've had three jags, blame the Covidiots, blame the anti-vaxxers now we're seemingly invincible so we don't have to wear a mask to protect ourselves, but wait a minute...what about those that we Can infect because we're too thick to realise exactly what the reasoning for wearing a mask is, a simple wee mask that can help save lifes, a simple wee hand wash that can help your own life

I was saying to my auld man yesterday that I think people have forgotten that the main thing at the start of this whole thing was taking precautions to protect the old and vulnerable. Us youngerish people knew we were more than likely not going to be severely ill at any point from the virus.

We don’t know yet how this new strain will affect those same old and vulnerable. I’m hopeful, like everyone, that it won’t be very damaging due to the different strain and said people being vaccinated.

But we don’t just start gambling with people’s well-being because folk are bored. It won’t be long until we know how this new strain is behaving. Surely not too much to ask for people to sit tight a bit longer.

[Northernhibee]

The Goverment have consistently said the game is on I and plenty others will be going Those that want to sit at home snd fret can do so Those that don’t want to go for whatever reason won’t go and that's Their choice
But politicians and medical professionals in South Africa think we are already being over cautious
If in the next week or so hospitalisations start to rise the Goverment will take action
They may well put in further restrictions before then
But they have all the data and the game as things stand is on
We a have to find a way to live with this going forward
It’s not so long ago we were being encouraged to get flu jabs as they were worried flu could be bad this winter Now Nicola has said no flu jabs have to be given it’s all boosters
So in three weeks if there is a bad outbreak of flu do we all panic and lockdown society
We need to take proportionate action which we are doing and I think further restrictions will be brought in when needed

If someone comes into close contact with you a couple of days after and didn't go to the football, then that's not their choice.

[HibsGW]

she can't win either way

cancel the game= Grrrrrrr what about this, what about that, think of business

Don't cancel the game= what on earth are they doing, Grrrrrrr think of the people


i'm sure somewhere in that message she's trying to tell people to actually be freakin sensible and take sensible precautions, unfortunately we know that not everyone is sensible, want to blame anyone ? blame the eejits that think they can no longer catch it because we've had three jags, blame the Covidiots, blame the anti-vaxxers now we're seemingly invincible so we don't have to wear a mask to protect ourselves, but wait a minute...what about those that we Can infect because we're too thick to realise exactly what the reasoning for wearing a mask is, a simple wee mask that can help save lifes, a simple wee hand wash that can help your own life

Eejits who think they can’t catch it because they’ve had 3 jags - I don’t think any of them are under the impression they can’t catch it, however they’re perfectly entitled to a normal life as they’ve done their bit. Don’t see how it’s even remotely fair to criticise anyone who’s had 3 jabs, regardless of behaviour and choices.

[Hibbyradge]

Eejits who think they can’t catch it because they’ve had 3 jags - I don’t think any of them are under the impression they can’t catch it, however they’re perfectly entitled to a normal life as they’ve done their bit. Don’t see how it’s even remotely fair to criticise anyone who’s had 3 jabs, regardless of behaviour and choices.

Their behaviour can be criticised if it's selfish and uncaring.

[cabbageandribs1875]

I was saying to my auld man yesterday that I think people have forgotten that the main thing at the start of this whole thing was taking precautions to protect the old and vulnerable. Us youngerish people knew we were more than likely not going to be severely ill at any point from the virus.

We don’t know yet how this new strain will affect those same old and vulnerable. I’m hopeful, like everyone, that it won’t be very damaging due to the different strain and said people being vaccinated.

But we don’t just start gambling with people’s well-being because folk are bored. It won’t be long until we know how this new strain is behaving. Surely not too much to ask for people to sit tight a bit longer.


:top marks

[Northernhibee]

she can't win either way

cancel the game= Grrrrrrr what about this, what about that, think of business

Don't cancel the game= what on earth are they doing, Grrrrrrr think of the people


i'm sure somewhere in that message she's trying to tell people to actually be freakin sensible and take sensible precautions, unfortunately we know that not everyone is sensible, want to blame anyone ? blame the eejits that think they can no longer catch it because we've had three jags, blame the Covidiots, blame the anti-vaxxers now we're seemingly invincible so we don't have to wear a mask to protect ourselves, but wait a minute...what about those that we Can infect because we're too thick to realise exactly what the reasoning for wearing a mask is, a simple wee mask that can help save lifes, a simple wee hand wash that can help save your own life

It's quite clear that the ambiguity and confusion comes from a Westminster government who are showing no leadership whatsoever and as a result we're not able to protect the people of Scotland appropriately.

I absolutely detest how we're being treated just now.

[James Stephen]

No, I expect our government to be responsible for decisions surrounding a global pandemic, especially when they are the ones privy to the data, and especially when they're elected to represent us.

If they can't make the necessary decisions now, then what is the point of them?

That isn't me advocating a draconian government, it's me wanting a responsible one.

The Scottish Govt have told you to think carefully, and not to socialise. So you know what they think, they think you shouldnt go.

You sound like you want someone to tell you what to do. That sounds like you are trying to avoid taking responsibility and want someone else to do it for you.

They cant shut it down, for reasons explained by others elsewhere on this thread.

[Antifa Hibs]

Cup Final > Xmas Day

Get on the venoms then the pints and get stuck into these ***** (while taking the necessary safety precautions of course)

:flag:

[kaimendhibs]

I absolutely understand people who dont want to risk going to the game. I have friends who dont want to risk it so they didnt buy a ticket. They didnt need the scotgov to make the decision for them. This new variant didnt just pop up a couple of days ago

[Since452]

Enjoy Sunday folks. If you are going, stay safe. You are not then enjoy the beers at home. We are all Hibs at the end of the day. Lets bring this cup home:flag:

[Real Emerald]

I absolutely understand people who dont want to risk going to the game. I have friends who dont want to risk it so they didnt buy a ticket. They didnt need the scotgov to make the decision for them. This new variant didnt just pop up a couple of days ago

Tickets were purchased before this blew up.

[Ronniekirk]

I was saying to my auld man yesterday that I think people have forgotten that the main thing at the start of this whole thing was taking precautions to protect the old and vulnerable. Us youngerish people knew we were more than likely not going to be severely ill at any point from the virus.

We don’t know yet how this new strain will affect those same old and vulnerable. I’m hopeful, like everyone, that it won’t be very damaging due to the different strain and said people being vaccinated.

But we don’t just start gambling with people’s well-being because folk are bored. It won’t be long until we know how this new strain is behaving. Surely not too much to ask for people to sit tight a bit longer.

But we are in. Different place now with so many people double jabbed and boosted That’s suppossed to reduce people becoming seriously I’ll or being hospitalised in Intensive care
And South Africa hasn’t seen that happening

[cabbageandribs1875]

Eejits who think they can’t catch it because they’ve had 3 jags - I don’t think any of them are under the impression they can’t catch it, however they’re perfectly entitled to a normal life as they’ve done their bit. Don’t see how it’s even remotely fair to criticise anyone who’s had 3 jabs, regardless of behaviour and choices.


you're either not understanding what i've said, or(most likely) i've not explained properly, i'm out after this reply:greengrin i've had my three jags, i'm also very aware of the reasoning for still wearing my mask, i can still infect others, i and thousands of others that have had three jags are still doing our bit by wearing a mask, not just in the hope that WE don't catch it but because we still don't want OTHERS to catch it from us, it's the selfish irresponsible ****s that i'm angry with, that's all

[Stokesy's on fire]

It's quite clear that the ambiguity and confusion comes from a Westminster government who are showing no leadership whatsoever and as a result we're not able to protect the people of Scotland appropriately.

I absolutely detest how we're being treated just now.

The Blame everyone else game suits Sturgeon

[kaimendhibs]

Tickets were purchased before this blew up.

A lot were mate, but not all.

[Northernhibee]

The Blame everyone else game suits Sturgeon

Do you have anything grown up to contribute?

[Moulin Yarns]

But we are in. Different place now with so many people double jabbed and boosted That’s suppossed to reduce people becoming seriously I’ll or being hospitalised in Intensive care
And South Africa hasn’t seen that happening

South Africa is in summer, UK is in winter.


Look at the graphs over the 2 years of covid, summer, cases drop, winter, cases rise.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Do you have anything grown up to contribute?


the same ones every time :agree:

[HibsGW]

Their behaviour can be criticised if it's selfish and uncaring.

Is it selfish to expect to get your normal life back once you’ve done the right thing and had 3 jabs?

[Dobosz83]

I was saying to my auld man yesterday that I think people have forgotten that the main thing at the start of this whole thing was taking precautions to protect the old and vulnerable. Us youngerish people knew we were more than likely not going to be severely ill at any point from the virus.

We don’t know yet how this new strain will affect those same old and vulnerable. I’m hopeful, like everyone, that it won’t be very damaging due to the different strain and said people being vaccinated.

But we don’t just start gambling with people’s well-being because folk are bored. It won’t be long until we know how this new strain is behaving. Surely not too much to ask for people to sit tight a bit longer.

One of the best posts I've read on here that isn't strictly Hibs related. Agree with every word...

[hibbysam]

South Africa is in summer, UK is in winter.


Look at the graphs over the 2 years of covid, summer, cases drop, winter, cases rise.

That’s not really true is it. Cases were fairly low last January compared to July and September.

[HibsGW]

you're either not understanding what i've said, or(most likely) i've not explained properly, i'm out after this reply:greengrin i've had my three jags, i'm also very aware of the reasoning for still wearing my mask, i can still infect others, i and thousands of others that have had three jags are still doing our bit by wearing a mask, not just in the hope that WE don't catch it but because we still don't want OTHERS to catch it from us, it's the selfish irresponsible ****s that i'm angry with, that's all

No that’s perfectly fair, things like mask wearing of course. I thought it was more a dig at people who’ve had 3 jabs thinking they can go to football/pubs/restaurants willy nilly which in my opinion is totally reasonable. Not wearing a mask is not acceptable.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Do you have anything grown up to contribute?


is that a question for Sturgeon?:wink:

[EH6 Hibby]

That’s not really true is it. Cases were fairly low last January compared to July and September.

We were in lockdown last January.

[Hibbyradge]

Is it selfish to expect to get your normal life back once you’ve done the right thing and had 3 jabs?

It's selfish to behave in ways which put other people at risk.

It's also naive in the extreme "expect" normality in the middle of a pandemic with a variant we know little about ripping through society.

[Moulin Yarns]

That’s not really true is it. Cases were fairly low last January compared to July and September.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom

[greenlex]

Is it selfish to expect to get your normal life back once you’ve done the right thing and had 3 jabs?
Only if you don’t care about other peoples health and well being which is what you’re doing if you expect that just for getting the three vaccinations and ignoring the pandemic and new variants etc.

[cabbageandribs1875]

No that’s perfectly fair, things like mask wearing of course. I thought it was more a dig at people who’ve had 3 jabs thinking they can go to football/pubs/restaurants willy nilly which in my opinion is totally reasonable. Not wearing a mask is not acceptable.


indeed:thumbsup:

[HibsGW]

It's selfish to behave in ways which put other people at risk.

It's also naive in the extreme "expect" normality in the middle of a pandemic with a variant we know little about ripping through society.

Your point would see everyone never leave the house though. There is an element of risk that everyone is willing to accept and that differs from person to person. I’m “putting people at risk” when I leave my house wearing a mask to go to the supermarket. What type of behaviours are you criticising here, that was what I’d misunderstood from the original post?

[Callum_62]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20KingdomIts low if you turn your phone upside down

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[JeMeSouviens]

If I do my LFT on Sunday and it's positive, obviously I'm not going ... but would I get a refund in those circumstances?

Imo, it would be helpful if Hibs and Celtc put out statements that anybody would get their money back if that happens to them.

[Box 17]

No, I expect our government to be responsible for decisions surrounding a global pandemic, especially when they are the ones privy to the data, and especially when they're elected to represent us.

If they can't make the necessary decisions now, then what is the point of them?

That isn't me advocating a draconian government, it's me wanting a responsible one.


Maybe it's because they have seen the data and the new variant is not as harmful as previous strains, that seems to be the evidence coming from South Africa. If it was shown to be more lethal then surely they would have cancelled events like this.

MY is right though, do we really want the government controlling all aspects of our lives? It's about personal responsibility and those who are worried should rightly be free to make their own decision and stay at home if they want.

[Gordy M]

Last January not a lot of people had been vaccinated. Now, at the start of this strain a large amount of folk have been double and triple jabbed, therefore we are not starting from scratch again. Hopefully this strain wont be as serious as as lot of people are more protected.....fingers crossed.

[hibbysam]

We were in lockdown last January.

Point being in the middle of summer cases rose significantly, tail end of summer they rose again. To say they don’t rise in summer is wrong. The spike end of December/start of January was far lower than anything we seen through the summer.

[HH81]

Glad the game is on.

I'll be taking no risks, staying away from people, travelling to the game, straight back to the hotel after it and making sure I put no one at any risk.

I will say my last game was Motherwell at home and I felt way way safer in Easter road then in and around Edinburgh prior to the game. It was packed full of people and although most were taking precautions not all were.

I have had 3 jabs + covid. I'm as protected as possible.

[kaimendhibs]

Im going to the game. Ive had 3 jags and take lateral flow tests. I cant put anyone at risk if they arent there.
Its personal choice.

[Hibbyradge]

Im going to the game. Ive had 3 jags and take lateral flow tests. I cant put anyone at risk if they arent there.
Its personal choice.

You can put people at risk if you catch it and there'll be no personal choice for the people you give it to afterwards.

I'm not asking anyone not to go. Just take precautions and be thoughtful.

[Moulin Yarns]

Point being in the middle of summer cases rose significantly, tail end of summer they rose again. To say they don’t rise in summer is wrong. The spike end of December/start of January was far lower than anything we seen through the summer.

That's when delta arrives!!!!

[WestEndHibee]

South Africa is in summer, UK is in winter.


Look at the graphs over the 2 years of covid, summer, cases drop, winter, cases rise.

Add to that, that South Africa has a totally different age demographic.

This just released is the first piece of non anecdotal information I've seen either way. suggests that omicron is just as severe as delta, but with more than 5 times greater chance of spreading.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/232698/modelling-suggests-rapid-spread-omicron-england/

[pacoluna]

You can put people at risk if you catch it and there'll be no personal choice for the people you give it to afterwards.

I'm not asking anyone not to go. Just take precautions and be thoughtful.

If it was a person choice whether we get it or not we wouldn't be in a Pandemic.

[HibsGW]

If it was a person choice whether we get it or not we wouldn't be in a Pandemic.

Exactly. So the person in the first place has taken a personal choice to catch covid. How does the next person not have that same personal choice that the first one did?

Catching COVID isn’t about how “responsible” you act, if you are ever in close proximity to other humans (every single person on the planet near enough), it can happen. Dressing it up as people being irresponsible isn’t helpful.

[kaimendhibs]

You can put people at risk if you catch it and there'll be no personal choice for the people you give it to afterwards.

I'm not asking anyone not to go. Just take precautions and be thoughtful.
With the greatest of respect I said I have had 3 jags, I test regularly. I wear a mask in shops etc.
What more can I do other than wear a forensic hazmat suit.
I am not using public transport to get to.or from the game and Im not going to any pubs.
My point was and is, that if someone in my vicinity at the football catches covid its not because of my actions, its that persons choice to be there. If they choose to not go to the game, that is fine and they are at no risk from me or anyone else. That isnt meant to sound cheeky byw

[He's here!]

It's almost like people want it cancelled . To do so at this late stage is not on.
From Monday maybe but I don't think it yet merits the nuclear option.
Wear a mask follow simple commonsense and you will be fine.


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Given the near-hysterical rhetoric from our politicians I'm not surprised some are worried and want it cancelled on health grounds.

Looking at the bigger picture, there are those who actually preferred lockdown life and are hoping for another one. For me that prospect is thoroughly depressing, primarily because I think it's a disaster for children - not just from an educational and social point of view but for those whose interests extend beyond the classroom (sport, dance, drama, music etc).

[LunasBoots]

Well games going ahead so can we just focuson the game now? Aslong as supporters take precautions then we should be fine.

[Hibees1973]

With the greatest of respect I said I have had 3 jags, I test regularly. I wear a mask in shops etc.
What more can I do other than wear a forensic hazmat suit.
I am not using public transport to get to.or from the game and Im not going to any pubs.
My point was and is, that if someone in my vicinity at the football catches covid its not because of my actions, its that persons choice to be there. If they choose to not go to the game, that is fine and they are at no risk from me or anyone else. That isnt meant to sound cheeky byw

100% agree with you kaimend.

i've had 3 jabs, but it is ridiculous anyone out there has not had at least 2 jabs yet. If they have not had 2 jabs, it is their personal choice not to have had them, so they should be excluded from events such as Sunday. Unfortunately this country has not been prepared to put this process in place. This is happening in other countries in Europe. By people not having at least 2 jabs they are potentially putting the services provided by the NHS under even more pressure.

I do hope everyone does take a rapid lateral flow test on Sunday morning. If positive please don't go. If I test positive I won't.

[timewilltell]

Why do people in Scotland call them 'jags' when everyone else calls them 'jabs'?

I'm Scottish by the way.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Why do people in Scotland call them 'jags' when everyone else calls them 'jabs'?

I'm Scottish by the way.


i and many others in my diabetic clinic have received our Flu jags for 20+ years, we've also received a double jag recently, we're not going to call it a Flu jag and a Covid jab, it's the exact same method of delivery :)

[Hibbyradge]

With the greatest of respect I said I have had 3 jags, I test regularly. I wear a mask in shops etc.
What more can I do other than wear a forensic hazmat suit.
I am not using public transport to get to.or from the game and Im not going to any pubs.
My point was and is, that if someone in my vicinity at the football catches covid its not because of my actions, its that persons choice to be there. If they choose to not go to the game, that is fine and they are at no risk from me or anyone else. That isnt meant to sound cheeky byw

I understand that and your precautions seem perfectly reasonable.

My point is that if you catch it from someone near you, you will most likely spread it to someone else later. They don't get a choice.

[CropleyWasGod]

Why do people in Scotland call them 'jags' when everyone else calls them 'jabs'?

I'm Scottish by the way.

You ever worn a jabby bunnet?

Too close to jobby.... 🤮

[Brightside]

Exactly, it just moves the income to another date. It obviously disrupts plans but what is more important? Madness

What about all the food and drink purchased. All the buses paid for. Loads of issues.

[Chorley Hibee]

What about all the food and drink purchased. All the buses paid for. Loads of issues.

What about the loss of income for pubs, food stalls, merchandise sellers, when thousands stay away on Sunday because of guidance.

It works both ways.

[JammyDoidger]

Just a minute. I have been going to Easter Road for probably twice as many years as you have been alive. Why should I miss out or put myself at risk for a game that can be played anytime? Are older supporters who maybe aren't quite a healthy as you be excluded? That's a bit harsh.

And on my side of the argument you've seen twice as many games as I have..if you keep locking the young ones up I won't get anywhere near as many games in as you have, as my gran would say I've lived my life, it's not fair to stop the young'uns living theirs.

[kaimendhibs]

100% agree with you kaimend.

i've had 3 jabs, but it is ridiculous anyone out there has not had at least 2 jabs yet. If they have not had 2 jabs, it is their personal choice not to have had them, so they should be excluded from events such as Sunday. Unfortunately this country has not been prepared to put this process in place. This is happening in other countries in Europe. By people not having at least 2 jabs they are potentially putting the services provided by the NHS under even more pressure.

I do hope everyone does take a rapid lateral flow test on Sunday morning. If positive please don't go. If I test positive I won't.
👏👏👏 me neither

[kaimendhibs]

I understand that and your precautions seem perfectly reasonable.

My point is that if you catch it from someone near you, you will most likely spread it to someone else later. They don't get a choice.
👍

[Hibbyradge]

Well games going ahead so can we just focuson the game now? Aslong as supporters take precautions then we should be fine.

There's the rub.

Not everyone will take precautions and be careful. There will be folk there who are pissed and off their tits on coke or whatever. They won't be giving a monkey's about whether or not they're spreading the virus.

Let's face it, there are people who would go to the game even if they had tested positive.

I've got a ticket but I won't be going. I'm currently waiting for the results of a PCR test and if that's negative, I'll take a LFT on Saturday before travelling to Edinburgh to watch the final with my best mate who is going into hospital on Wednesday for important treatment and doesn't want to jeopardise that by catching Covid at the game.

[hibbysam]

That's when delta arrives!!!!

It was still summer. You are contradicting yourself when saying South African are in summer so a mitigation (even though this new variant is there) yet when we were in summer our cases rose due to delta which is less transmission me than the new one.