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MikeyS
09-12-2021, 03:28 PM
We will get a decent coach. No doubt in my mind. We have moved away from the penny pinching Petrie days. Whoever comes in will be backed big time in Jan window given we were already going to invest.
Yeah this is how I feel too. Ron won't have liked the fans turning so quickly in to his reign and will want us back on side pronto. New manager will be well backed and I'm confident the hard work will be done in getting the right guy.
Iain G
09-12-2021, 03:28 PM
If we get Ross Jack in it will save money on getting new personalised club attire for the manager :greengrin
JohnM1875
09-12-2021, 03:30 PM
Not sure why, but I’m not confident about who we will go for.
I want a name. Someone that makes us sit up and go ‘ya beauty, didn’t see that coming’.
We’ll get McInnes or Goodwin instead and be no further forwards.
I really hope we don't go with Goodwin.
McInnes wouldn't be my first choice, but I wouldn't mind him. His Aberdeen teams gave us a good number of beatings over the years.
Iain G
09-12-2021, 03:30 PM
Is Ben on good terms with Daniel ****e I wonder? He is in need of a new job.
Edit: F A R K E ?!?
MikeyS
09-12-2021, 03:30 PM
If we get Ross Jack in it will save money on getting new personalised club attire for the manager :greengrin
Could get John Robertson and just stitch 2 of Jack's tops together. Let him appoint any random ex Hearts as his assistant and we can use John Potters gear for the Jambo Prick! Great money saver!
ahibby
09-12-2021, 03:32 PM
Alex Neil is the choice for me. Had Hamilton top of the SPL in October with 23 points from ten games and a +14 goal difference - by the time he left them in January of that season, they were 3rd, four points behind Aberdeen at the top. 39 points from 20 games, +17 goal difference. Ok it's a league without Rangers, Hibs or Hearts, but Aberdeen, Celtic and Dundee Utd were all strong sides at that point.
From a derby point of view, they beat Motherwell 4-0 at Fir Park and 5-0 at home - sounds alright to me :greengrin His overall SPL record with Accies was P 20 W 12 D 3 L 5 - as well as those derby results, in the two successive games after wining at Fir Park they beat Celtic at Parkhead and Aberdeen 3-0 at home. Scored 36 goals in those 20 games. It's really incredible stuff, there's a reason why you don't often see Accies managers taken by English Championship teams.
I don't have time to do anything further on the rest of his career right now, but Norwich was successful overall, and I think he had PNE finish 8th in the Championship. Career stats are here:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alex-neil/profil/trainer/24018
His average PPG of 1.74 would see 66 points in the SPL - one off our record.
Strong favourite for me.
Yes is a possibility. His percentage win at Norwich was one of the best they had, okay a couple of their managers had slightly better but I think he was in the top 3 or 4 as far as their stats are concerned.
MikeyS
09-12-2021, 03:32 PM
Is Ben on good terms with Daniel ****e I wonder? He is in need of a new job.
Edit: F A R K E ?!?
I thought you were referring to DiamondWhite Daniel Stendel for a minute there! 🤣
Keith_M
09-12-2021, 03:42 PM
Is Craig Levein available?
Iain G
09-12-2021, 03:53 PM
Is Craig Levein available?
Nope, he is tied to the bed in Doctor Mrs Budge's spare room wearing nothing but a stained maroon cardigan and and a pair of Mr Romanov's old naval issue y-fronts...
Steven79
09-12-2021, 04:02 PM
Nope, he is tied to the bed in Doctor Mrs Budge's spare room wearing nothing but a stained maroon cardigan and and a pair of Mr Romanov's old naval issue y-fronts...
:eek:
JeMeSouviens
09-12-2021, 04:05 PM
If we get Ross Jack in it will save money on getting new personalised club attire for the manager :greengrin
He'll have to wear it all back to front though. :tsk tsk:
JimBHibees
09-12-2021, 04:08 PM
Nope, he is tied to the bed in Doctor Mrs Budge's spare room wearing nothing but a stained maroon cardigan and and a pair of Mr Romanov's old naval issue y-fronts...
:faf:
Pray tell what kind of films you have been watching recently :greengrin
GreenCastle
09-12-2021, 04:26 PM
Was Alex Neil the manager when Hamilton relegated Hibs ?
Neil is 40 years old.
McInnes is 50 years old. Don't forget his record at Bristol was really poor.
With Potter leaving - whoever comes in with have to bring an assistant also.
Billy Whizz
09-12-2021, 04:31 PM
Was Alex Neil the manager when Hamilton relegated Hibs ?
Neil is 40 years old.
McInnes is 50 years old. Don't forget his record at Bristol was really poor.
With Potter leaving - whoever comes in with have to bring an assistant also.
McInnes works with Tony Docherty as his assistant
Heisenberg
09-12-2021, 04:32 PM
John Carver getting his name out there for the job via the Scottish Sun. Wouldn’t be keen on that one.
MWHIBBIES
09-12-2021, 04:34 PM
John Carver getting his name out there for the job via the Scottish Sun. Wouldn’t be keen on that one.
Absolutely not. Doubt we're that stupid, though.
04Sauzee
09-12-2021, 04:35 PM
Was Alex Neil the manager when Hamilton relegated Hibs ?
Neil is 40 years old.
McInnes is 50 years old. Don't forget his record at Bristol was really poor.
With Potter leaving - whoever comes in with have to bring an assistant also.
Think Neil's last assistant was given the Job at PNE full time but has just very recently been sacked
Coco Bryce
09-12-2021, 04:35 PM
Yes is a possibility. His percentage win at Norwich was one of the best they had, okay a couple of their managers had slightly better but I think he was in the top 3 or 4 as far as their stats are concerned.
At a very high level as well. He will have gained tons of experience while down there.
Gaffer1875
09-12-2021, 04:35 PM
Michael Carrick
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Gaffer1875
09-12-2021, 04:40 PM
Michel Carrick
Ian Holloway
John Terry
Stephen Robinson
Shaun Maloney
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MWHIBBIES
09-12-2021, 04:41 PM
Michel Carrick
Ian Holloway
John Terry
Stephen Robinson
Shaun Maloney
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No way I'd want Terry. Racist POS. Thankfully far too arrogant to come here.
WoreTheGreen
09-12-2021, 04:42 PM
Nope, he is tied to the bed in Doctor Mrs Budge's spare room wearing nothing but a stained maroon cardigan and and a pair of Mr Romanov's old naval issue y-fronts...
You should have seen the look on his face when someone said “up periscope “
Coco Bryce
09-12-2021, 04:43 PM
Michel Carrick
Ian Holloway
John Terry
Stephen Robinson
Shaun Maloney
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John Terry 🤣🤣
He's a complete prick as a person never mind as a manager.
Iain G
09-12-2021, 04:44 PM
You should have seen the look on his face when someone said “up periscope “
The Hunt for Maroon October!?
04Sauzee
09-12-2021, 04:45 PM
Yes is a possibility. His percentage win at Norwich was one of the best they had, okay a couple of their managers had slightly better but I think he was in the top 3 or 4 as far as their stats are concerned.
Believe it or not Paul Lambert had a better record at Norwich if we are looking at wins Vs games , played, as did Nigel Worthington and Daniel ****e.
Agreed that Neil did have a decent record at Norwich.
Gaffer1875
09-12-2021, 04:45 PM
John Terry [emoji1787][emoji1787]
He's a complete prick as a person never mind as a manager.
Just offering a suggestion that’s a little out there! Doesn’t mean I think he’s the right choice…
Would be open to a big name with little experience but could bring an X factor ie Carrick
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bingo70
09-12-2021, 04:49 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Hudson_(soccer)
Think this guy would tick a few boxes.
Young, experienced, ambitious, American based (ok I’ve made that box up), English so no work permit issues and had some good success in his career already.
Since452
09-12-2021, 04:51 PM
Anyone for Stendel? 🙃
Last seen in Heriot Watt student union bar a couple years back. Probably still there trying to figure out who Hearts are.
jeffers
09-12-2021, 04:52 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Hudson_(soccer)
Think this guy would tick a few boxes.
Young, experienced, ambitious, American based (ok I’ve made that box up), English so no work permit issues and had some good success in his career already.
Shame on you Bingo, if you are going to throw in a wild card I’m expecting an exotic name at least.
bingo70
09-12-2021, 04:55 PM
Appreciate it’s a difficult topic to bring up without people pointing out the obvious ‘should be the best person for the job regardless of colour’ line but with the lack of black managers in Scottish and British football, it would be good IMO if we were to bring in a black manager.
I’d like us to look beyond these shores and if we do that there will be loads of options out there.
Stevie Reid
09-12-2021, 04:55 PM
Believe it or not Paul Lambert had a better record at Norwich if we are looking at wins Vs games , played, as did Nigel Worthington and Daniel ****e.
Agreed that Neil did have a decent record at Norwich.
Paul Lambert had almost a whole season with Norwich in League One though.
Gaffer1875
09-12-2021, 04:57 PM
Any Decent American managers out of work?
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jeffers
09-12-2021, 04:59 PM
We’ll never get a sure thing, if such an appointment even exists, so I’m not overly bothered about past history. Ultimately it’s as it is with players we sign, it’s what they do at Hibs that matters. Though I would like a manager who tries to play attacking football.
bingo70
09-12-2021, 05:01 PM
Shame on you Bingo, if you are going to throw in a wild card I’m expecting an exotic name at least.
This is me trying to manage my expectations.
You should see some of the options I’ve been looking at on transfermarkt today.
jeffers
09-12-2021, 05:03 PM
This is me trying to manage my expectations.
You should see some of the options I’ve been looking at on transfermarkt today.
:greengrin
thebausburst
09-12-2021, 05:03 PM
Lampard?
A Hi-Bee
09-12-2021, 05:04 PM
I want Lenny back, get some steel and passion back into this team, just in time for a cup upset as well.
:greengrin
MWHIBBIES
09-12-2021, 05:06 PM
I want Lenny back, get some steel and passion back into this team, just in time for a cup upset as well.
:greengrin
Stubbs is the one who instilled steel and passion.
Gaffer1875
09-12-2021, 05:09 PM
Stubbs is the one who instilled steel and passion.
Steel? Passion maybe. I always thought we were a little weak under Stubbs.
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CapitalGreen
09-12-2021, 05:09 PM
Believe it or not Paul Lambert had a better record at Norwich if we are looking at wins Vs games , played, as did Nigel Worthington and Daniel ****e.
Agreed that Neil did have a decent record at Norwich.
Both Lambert and F arke managed more games than Reid at a lower level. Lambert managed them in League 1 too which will massively skew his win %.
Vault Boy
09-12-2021, 05:09 PM
I wouldn't have minded some of the names mentioned on an interim basis, but whether they'd have been interested in that is another matter.
The likes of Alec Neil, Alan Stubbs, Ian Murray, Derek McInnes, hell - even Neil Lennon. Wouldn't want to commit any of them to longer term deals without some short term success to back it up, but as temporary cover they all sound alright.
Last time we had a vacancy, Jack Ross was a very natural choice for us. This time round, Alex Neil comes closest to that, but it's definitely not as simple. Will be very interesting to watch this play out.
Regardless, fully behind SDG whilst he's in the dugout. This is why we've got guys like him at the club.
Paul1642
09-12-2021, 05:10 PM
Derek McGinnis for me. Done very well at Aberdeen and turned down rangers at one point which shows how high his stock was in Scotland. He’s had a good break now and knows the league better than most.
I wouldn’t be disappointed with Alex Neil however nor would I be overly exited. Names like Lampard are much more exiting however no chance IMO. I think as with most manager hunts a surprise contender will be odds on favourite within a week.
shetlandhibee
09-12-2021, 05:11 PM
Would be happy with Stubbs SDG number 2 ( his first ever sighning!) or Lennon !!
dchibs
09-12-2021, 05:11 PM
Scott Brown, assistants Kevin Thomson and Marvin Bartley.
we would all need to cover the M8 with broken glass to get HUN Thomson here.
Gmack7
09-12-2021, 05:12 PM
I want a young coach with novel ideas and a taste of managing a BIG club, step forward Ian Cathro, what a coup
BoomtownHibees
09-12-2021, 05:12 PM
Derek McGinnis.
A hybrid of Derek Riordan, John McGinn and Kyle Magennis. Sounds decent
jeffers
09-12-2021, 05:12 PM
Derek McGinnis for me. Done very well at Aberdeen and turned down rangers at one point which shows how high his stock was in Scotland. He’s had a good break now and knows the league better than most.
I wouldn’t be disappointed with Alex Neil however nor would I be overly exited. Names like Lampard are much more exiting however no chance IMO. I think as with most manager hunts a surprise contender will be odds on favourite within a week.
The big if is what McInnes we’d be getting. The one who managed Aberdeen at first or the one who got sacked. If it’s the former it’s a big yes from me.
04Sauzee
09-12-2021, 05:12 PM
If it was to be Neil here is a report on his 31 signings for PNE
https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/preston-north-end-transfers-neil-18012115
MWHIBBIES
09-12-2021, 05:14 PM
Steel? Passion maybe. I always thought we were a little weak under Stubbs.
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Na. We were much weaker under Lennon. Lost more derbies, lost more to teams we should beat, never reached a final. Stubbs formed a brilliant team.
hibee-boys
09-12-2021, 05:16 PM
Stubbs/Lennon, deary me. Are we the only club that constantly live in the past. Strip out the cup final win and Stubbs was heading out the door anyway after failing to get us promoted, he’s done the square root of zilch since leaving Hibs. As for Lennon, can you not remember the run we were on before he got punted🙈
dchibs
09-12-2021, 05:16 PM
i can’t believe anyone would want lennon back after the way he treated us at the end. He deliberately got himself sacked so he was free to take the celtic job after his good mate left to go to leicester. I enjoyed that first season back up, but i don’t want him back.
this.
RossScott1991
09-12-2021, 05:16 PM
What about Ronny Deila.
Plenty of personality there. 1 game away from clinching New York’s first ever title win in the MLS.
Mind you not sure he would want to swap New York for Leith…
Crab apple
09-12-2021, 05:22 PM
Is Raphael Wicky likely to be a serious candidate or is he quoted simply because of the MLS link?
bingo70
09-12-2021, 05:23 PM
What about Ronny Deila.
Plenty of personality there. 1 game away from clinching New York’s first ever title win in the MLS.
Mind you not sure he would want to swap New York for Leith…
I suggested him before, would be a great appointment I think.
I’ve no idea how realistic a shout it is but if he was keen on a move back to Europe and would be interested it would be a really ambitious appointment I think.
Did he not win the MLS with New York last week?
Paul1642
09-12-2021, 05:24 PM
As for Callum Davidson I really hope we don’t go down that route. Sounds crazy with him winning a cup double, partially at our expense, but I really don’t like his style of play and don’t think he’s a man who would succeed at a team looking to win as many games as required to come 3rd.
Infact out of the entire list that odds are being offered on Mcbookie only Ronny Deila property excites me however we need to be realistic that the manger who just won the MLS is not Easter Road bound any time soon.
whiskyhibby
09-12-2021, 05:26 PM
How about Ted Lasso………he has American roots 😂😂😂
whiskyhibby
09-12-2021, 05:30 PM
As for Callum Davidson I really hope we don’t go down that route. Sounds crazy with him winning a cup double, partially at our expense, but I really don’t like his style of play and don’t think he’s a man who would succeed at a team looking to win as many games as required to come 3rd.
Infact out of the entire list that odds are being offered on Mcbookie only Ronny Deila property excites me however we need to be realistic that the manger who just won the MLS is not Easter Road bound any time soon.
completely agree, I’d rather have Ross back
nlandsafchibee
09-12-2021, 05:33 PM
Paul Lambert had almost a whole season with Norwich in League One though.
Pretty sure him and Neil both worked with the inexperienced CEO Kensall at Norwich when he was in marketing .Interesting times .Anybody know any bookie offering oďds ?
truehibernian
09-12-2021, 05:34 PM
I don't believe in coincidences in football, Alex Neill is up here for a reason and Ron will have seen this season's crowds and money dwindling through the turnstiles. He'll also have gauged the mood of the supporters.
Alex Neill is a big upgrade on Jack Ross, managed at a much higher level and at clubs with less budgets than the rival teams in the EPL and Championship (and SPFL).
Absolute no brainer for me, very good manager with lots of experience, knows the league, knows staff and players, and will have developed excellent contacts down south.
Get him in Ron :aok:
erin go bragh
09-12-2021, 05:36 PM
Na. We were much weaker under Lennon. Lost more derbies, lost more to teams we should beat, never reached a final. Stubbs formed a brilliant team.
Lennon had the best stats for fewest games lost at 22% for any manager in our history that played over 10 games .
greenlex
09-12-2021, 05:36 PM
Lennon had the best stats for fewest games lost at 22% for any manager in our history that played over 10 games .
at a guess most of them in the championship.
Greencore
09-12-2021, 05:37 PM
I'd be happy with Alex Neil.
madhatter
09-12-2021, 05:38 PM
Bookies show how unimaginative Scottish football is. Who is Scottish and unemployed? Who is an ex-player? Jeez, really hope we use some imagination.
erin go bragh
09-12-2021, 05:40 PM
What if Sir David Gray steers us to win our next two league games and then wins the cup ,,, playing fast free flowing football 😊 would the job be his 😉
Tambo
09-12-2021, 05:43 PM
I wonder if John Kennedy would be interested this time? Not that I'm saying we hire him.
truehibernian
09-12-2021, 05:44 PM
What if Sir David Gray steers us to win our next two league games and then wins the cup ,,, playing fast free flowing football 😊 would the job be his 😉
No, but he might be hailed King David Gray :greengrin
Greencore
09-12-2021, 05:45 PM
What's trophy levein up to these days?
Since452
09-12-2021, 05:48 PM
What a story if SDG guided us to the cup.
WoreTheGreen
09-12-2021, 05:50 PM
What's trophy levein up to these days?
Salesman for Imodium
Magpie
09-12-2021, 06:01 PM
Na. We were much weaker under Lennon. Lost more derbies, lost more to teams we should beat, never reached a final. Stubbs formed a brilliant team.
Lennon had the lowest loss ratio in hibs managerial history I believe, just 26 losses from 123 games (21.14%)
:top marks
I don't believe in coincidences in football, Alex Neill is up here for a reason and Ron will have seen this season's crowds and money dwindling through the turnstiles. He'll also have gauged the mood of the supporters.
Alex Neill is a big upgrade on Jack Ross, managed at a much higher level and at clubs with less budgets than the rival teams in the EPL and Championship (and SPFL).
Absolute no brainer for me, very good manager with lots of experience, knows the league, knows staff and players, and will have developed excellent contacts down south.
Get him in Ron :aok:
Since90+2
09-12-2021, 06:13 PM
Davidson does play a pragmatic style shall we say but that's as manager of St Johnstone. He would not have won the cup double if they had played expansive attacking football, they simply don't have the players to do that. He got the max out of his squad. That to me is good management.
I've no idea how he'd manage at Hibs with a bigger budget and better forward players but I don't necessarily think it would be the same as St Johnstone. I would have worries how he'd be received if we played ultra defensive football.
Saying all that, would anyone really care if he won us the Scottish cup playing defensively? Probably not.
MWHIBBIES
09-12-2021, 06:14 PM
Lennon had the lowest loss ratio in hibs managerial history I believe, just 26 losses from 123 games (21.14%)
Sadly 3 of them derbies to Craig Levein.
Lennon done well, we were good in his first season up. His signings were largely dreadful. Improved 2 positions from Stubbs team, Goalie and CB.
Northernhibee
09-12-2021, 06:14 PM
I have a feeling that Alex Neil could be a Steve Clarke style signing. A manager who has done well down south but was seen as a bit of a stale option down south after a job not working out for him. A potentially top manager with something to prove.
Plus it’d continue the manager with two first name thing so it ticks all the boxes.
Since452
09-12-2021, 06:22 PM
Lennon had the lowest loss ratio in hibs managerial history I believe, just 26 losses from 123 games (21.14%)
Does that include a full season in a poor championship?
Magpie
09-12-2021, 06:31 PM
Does that include a full season in a poor championship?
It’s all competitions so yes, we lost 3 games in the league that season.
Since90+2
09-12-2021, 06:35 PM
It’s all competitions so yes, we lost 3 games in the league that season.
How does Lennon's record in the Premier League compare to Jack Ross'?
Of the names I have seen mentioned Neil is the one the looks the best option but I am not convinced he will be any better
I would be really unhappy with McCinnes or Davidson and don’t see them as an improvement on Ross. Lennon was a poor choice first time and would be a disaster if we go back there
Springbank
09-12-2021, 06:44 PM
I like the point, above, that we'd be getting a manager with a point to prove.
Minute 1 on day 1
"Yous are in a fxxxing Cup final.
Who wants to win it?
Well fxxxing work for me & we'll give ourselves a chance"
Coco Bryce
09-12-2021, 06:53 PM
I don't believe in coincidences in football, Alex Neill is up here for a reason and Ron will have seen this season's crowds and money dwindling through the turnstiles. He'll also have gauged the mood of the supporters.
Alex Neill is a big upgrade on Jack Ross, managed at a much higher level and at clubs with less budgets than the rival teams in the EPL and Championship (and SPFL).
Absolute no brainer for me, very good manager with lots of experience, knows the league, knows staff and players, and will have developed excellent contacts down south.
Get him in Ron :aok:
This 100%. Very experienced for such a young man.
B.H.F.C
09-12-2021, 06:57 PM
How does Lennon's record in the Premier League compare to Jack Ross'?
I would think it would be slightly better. Both had one full season and he got more points. Think we were better off after 16 games of Lennon’s second top flight season than we are after 16 of this one.
Magpie
09-12-2021, 06:57 PM
How does Lennon's record in the Premier League compare to Jack Ross'?
Lennon
P: 60 W: 25 D: 21 L: 14
Ross
P: 72 W: 30 D: 17 L: 25
So in regards of points per game, Lennon was better.
Feed McGraw
09-12-2021, 07:03 PM
Better be somebody good, because according to the BBC Scotland sports reporter, our support has HUGE expectations ! They should just stick to the old firm, they really don't have a clue.
darwenhibby
09-12-2021, 07:06 PM
Swallow our pride bring back Alex Miller with John Collins as his assistant!!
Iggy Pope
09-12-2021, 07:07 PM
Better be somebody good, because according to the BBC Scotland sports reporter, our support has HUGE expectations ! They should just stick to the old firm, they really don't have a clue.
I’d rather they said that than describe us as a support with low expectations who will accept any ****! :greengrin
Steven79
09-12-2021, 07:08 PM
What if Sir David Gray steers us to win our next two league games and then wins the cup ,,, playing fast free flowing football [emoji4] would the job be his [emoji6]That excites me and worried me at the same time...
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greenlex
09-12-2021, 07:10 PM
Lennon
P: 60 W: 25 D: 21 L: 14
Ross
P: 72 W: 30 D: 17 L: 25
So in regards of points per game, Lennon was better.
Lennon didn’t manage us for 60 top league games surely?
Danderhall Hibs
09-12-2021, 07:11 PM
Appreciate it’s a difficult topic to bring up without people pointing out the obvious ‘should be the best person for the job regardless of colour’ line but with the lack of black managers in Scottish and British football, it would be good IMO if we were to bring in a black manager.
I’d like us to look beyond these shores and if we do that there will be loads of options out there.
Or a woman?
B.H.F.C
09-12-2021, 07:16 PM
Lennon didn’t manage us for 60 top league games surely?
Full season (38) plus 22 of the following season.
Since90+2
09-12-2021, 07:16 PM
Or a woman?
I think it will happen eventually but it would be very difficult for a woman to manage Hibs at this time IMO.
I can imagine football changing rooms are fairly unforgiven atmospheres at times with a lads culture, I'm not sure how well a woman leading in that environment would be received.
greenlex
09-12-2021, 07:18 PM
Full season (38) plus 22 of the following season.
bloody hell.
greenlex
09-12-2021, 07:20 PM
I think it will happen eventually but it would be very difficult for a woman to manage Hibs at this time IMO.
I can imagine football changing rooms are fairly unforgiven atmospheres at times with a lads culture, I'm not sure how well a woman leading in that environment would be received.
We should bring in Shelley Kerr just for a giggle. If folk didn’t chime with Ross’ voice…………
southern hibby
09-12-2021, 07:21 PM
I think it will happen eventually but it would be very difficult for a woman to manage Hibs at this time IMO.
I can imagine football changing rooms are fairly unforgiven atmospheres at times with a lads culture, I'm not sure how well a woman leading in that environment would be received.
You’ve obviously no met my mum. She’d just rip the 💩 out of them all in the dressing room. Would be a sight to see her threatening to skelp their ar se if the dinny sort it out.However granted she knows nowt about football.
GGTTH
Paul1642
09-12-2021, 07:22 PM
I think it will happen eventually but it would be very difficult for a woman to manage Hibs at this time IMO.
I can imagine football changing rooms are fairly unforgiven atmospheres at times with a lads culture, I'm not sure how well a woman leading in that environment would be received.
The interesting thing about this idea is that with no woman ever having managed at a top level in mens football, we could potentially attract the very best. I don’t know anything about woman’s football to tell you who that may be and if I’m correct in thinking they would be interesting. Not going to happen anyway.
Feed McGraw
09-12-2021, 07:25 PM
I’d rather they said that than describe us as a support with low expectations who will accept any ****! :greengrinI suppose so, but I think we're somewhere in between 😄.
Unseen work
09-12-2021, 07:26 PM
Alex Neil would be really good and tbf I’m surprised at the lack of respect shown towards him for what he’s done
Bare in mind he’s only 40.
The 90+2
09-12-2021, 07:30 PM
Alex Neil or Paul Lambert.
Left field abroad based with Ian Murray as assistant would be interesting too.
Dashing Bob S
09-12-2021, 07:32 PM
Alex Neil would be really good and tbf I’m surprised at the lack of respect shown towards him for what he’s done
Bare in mind he’s only 40.
It seems a mystery why he ended up at Hamilton with such a pedigree. Is there something more than meets the eye here, or is Neil to be commended by thinking no job is beneath him?
Silky
09-12-2021, 07:33 PM
Or a woman?
If she was the best person for the job then why not? All previous appointments have been men and, during my 30 odd years of watching Hibs many of them have failed. Only three managers in my life have won trophies; Miller, Collins and Stubbs and the others have been a very mixed bag. It couldn't be any worse.
Unseen work
09-12-2021, 07:36 PM
It seems a mystery why he ended up at Hamilton with such a pedigree. Is there something more than meets the eye here, or is Neil to be commended by thinking no job is beneath him?
It was his first job as a manager because it was the last place he played football professionally
Danderhall Hibs
09-12-2021, 07:38 PM
Better be somebody good, because according to the BBC Scotland sports reporter, our support has HUGE expectations ! They should just stick to the old firm, they really don't have a clue.
I think Alex Neil said it last night as well.
It’s correct as well isn’t it? Top 3 minimum, cup wins, attractive free flowing football. On a budget.
bingo70
09-12-2021, 07:43 PM
I think Alex Neil said it last night as well.
It’s correct as well isn’t it? Top 3 minimum, cup wins, attractive free flowing football. On a budget.
No, you’ve already posted that.
They don’t need to achieve all of that to be a success and you know that.
MWHIBBIES
09-12-2021, 07:46 PM
Billy Reid has made a good career for himself alongside Graham Potter. I would be all for his appointment, but not been a manager for a long time.
Feed McGraw
09-12-2021, 07:48 PM
I think Alex Neil said it last night as well.
It’s correct as well isn’t it? Top 3 minimum, cup wins, attractive free flowing football. On a budget. Well, not for me and many other Hibs fans that I know, I look to see the Hibs playing good football and getting as high up the league as they can and as far in the cups as they can. That's pretty much it, simples. If they struggle, I'll still support them and hope they come back playing good football again. I don't expect regular trophies or 3rd place because I've been watching Hibs since the early sixties and I know the score. The BBC Scotland reporter doesn't.
Brightside
09-12-2021, 07:48 PM
Better be somebody good, because according to the BBC Scotland sports reporter, our support has HUGE expectations ! They should just stick to the old firm, they really don't have a clue.
Do we not have huge expectations?
Libby Hibby
09-12-2021, 07:49 PM
Well, not for me and many other Hibs fans that I know, I look to see the Hibs playing good football and getting as high up the league as they can and as far in the cups as they can. That's pretty much it, simples. If they struggle, I'll still support them and hope they come back playing good football again. I don't expect regular trophies or 3rd place because I've been watching Hibs since the early sixties and I know the score. The BBC Scotland reporter doesn't.
Who would be your ideal choice?
hibeejeebies
09-12-2021, 07:52 PM
Billy Reid has made a good career for himself alongside Graham Potter. I would be all for his appointment, but not been a manager for a long time.
Finally get some use out of this link up with Brighton 😁
brianmc
09-12-2021, 07:54 PM
Do we not have huge expectations?
Top 6 minimum, hope for top 4 and win a Cup every 10 years or so.
Would you really class that as huge expectations?
Hiber-nation
09-12-2021, 07:55 PM
I think Alex Neil said it last night as well.
It’s correct as well isn’t it? Top 3 minimum, cup wins, attractive free flowing football. On a budget.
It was John Rankin who said the fans had huge expectations when he was talking about his time at Hibs and he was right.
Danderhall Hibs
09-12-2021, 07:58 PM
It was John Rankin who said the fans had huge expectations when he was talking about his time at Hibs and he was right.
Sorry I was half asleep thought it was Neil.
Danderhall Hibs
09-12-2021, 07:58 PM
No, you’ve already posted that.
They don’t need to achieve all of that to be a success and you know that.
I don’t know that - will need to wait and see what happens over the next few months.
Babyshamble
09-12-2021, 08:03 PM
Sky sports news interviewed Steve lovell
Former hibs striker..about his thoughts on new manager did I miss something? 🙈
Is It On....
09-12-2021, 08:03 PM
Swallow our pride bring back Alex Miller with John Collins as his assistant!!
Ffs... don't even joke about that. The thought of Alex Miller brings back very bad memories of dull, uninspiring football (ex the League Cup win of course).
bingo70
09-12-2021, 08:03 PM
I don’t know that - will need to wait and see what happens over the next few months.
So if we appoint a manager who plays exciting, attacking football, we pump Hearts easily home and away but finish 4th and don’t win silverware you think the fans won’t accept that and will force them out? Of course we would be happy with that.
You’re trying to make out like it’s all or nothing with our expectations but that’s not the case.
Feed McGraw
09-12-2021, 08:03 PM
Who would be your ideal choice? I'm not sure who would be ideal, I'm only saying that I don't think the Hibs support has huge expectations, we have expectations , but for the most part they are not huge ones,all in my opinion of course.
Is It On....
09-12-2021, 08:07 PM
Callum Davidson: I may have missed his name in this thread but tremendous record at St Johnstone. However, Is he defensive by necessity or is that his natural style? Interesting question...
MWHIBBIES
09-12-2021, 08:10 PM
Callum Davidson: I may have missed his name in this thread but tremendous record at St Johnstone. However, Is he defensive by necessity or is that his natural style? Interesting question...
Great record in the cups. 14 wins from 53 in the league which is dreadful.
Danderhall Hibs
09-12-2021, 08:12 PM
So if we appoint a manager who plays exciting, attacking football, we pump Hearts easily home and away but finish 4th and don’t win silverware you think the fans won’t accept that and will force them out? Of course we would be happy with that.
You’re trying to make out like it’s all or nothing with our expectations but that’s not the case.
Depends who we lose to in the cups? And who finished above us in the league?
bingo70
09-12-2021, 08:17 PM
Depends who we lose to in the cups? And who finished above us in the league?
Aye, ok then.
Jack Ross never got forced out for those reasons but you think a hypothetical manager that played entertaining attacking football, pumps hearts and qualifies for Europe would.
You’re desperate to make out that Hibs fans are impossible to please but we’re not.
Feed McGraw
09-12-2021, 08:24 PM
Depends who we lose to in the cups? And who finished above us in the league?Would probably be the usual suspects above us if we finished 4th and as for the cups, well, who knows how people would feel if as bingo says we were an entertaining team who'd sorted out the Hertz and got into Europe.
loanheadhibby
09-12-2021, 08:28 PM
I feel exactly the same. It doesn't matter who the manager is, he'll be sacked within 2 years whatever happens. I support Hibs to see them play.
Hibs need to get real - we're a 3rd - 6th in the league club with a cup win every 15 or so years. Accept that.
Enjoy derby wins, wins over the old Firm and visits to Hampden along the way. And Jack Ross gave us all that.
The next manager won't be a step change to make us win the league - the Board need to get real - a new manager isn't going to turn us into Man City or Liverpool.
So what's the point in constantly changing?
Not disagreeing with you what what was his derby record?
I remember the Boyle goals at Tynecastle.
shearer1981
09-12-2021, 08:32 PM
All I ask for is a manager who wants to play a combative, high energy style of football and likes to keep the ball on the deck.
Jack Ross and Paul Heckingbottom's failing in my eyes are they both tried to implement a modern football " easy on the eye" possession style football. For whatever reason it just doesn't work with Hibs (or in Scottish football)
I’d like a German coach who plays high press.
madhatter
09-12-2021, 08:47 PM
I’d like a German coach who plays high press.
I agree with a foreign manager. This replacing a British manager with almost a carbon copy - similar experience - is getting ridiculous. It's not like we've had relentless success with British managers.
Regardless of his merits, Alex Neil would feel like we'd have replaced Jack Ross with Jack Ross. Similar age and experience. Obviously some differences but many similarities as well.
One reason why Scottish football doesn't have widespread interest? Insular nature. Scott Brown, Kevin Thomson, Alex Neil, McInnes et al are instantly rumoured for the job. Rarely ever a non-Scottish name in the running when it comes to the Bookies. Scottish football needs more foreign influence, it is reluctant to evolve yet fans always complain about how poor we are as a nation.
Callum_62
09-12-2021, 08:56 PM
I agree with a foreign manager. This replacing a British manager with almost a carbon copy - similar experience - is getting ridiculous. It's not like we've had relentless success with British managers.
Regardless of his merits, Alex Neil would feel like we'd have replaced Jack Ross with Jack Ross. Similar age and experience. Obviously some differences but many similarities as well.
One reason why Scottish football doesn't have widespread interest? Insular nature. Scott Brown, Kevin Thomson, Alex Neil, McInnes et al are instantly rumoured for the job. Rarely ever a non-Scottish name in the running when it comes to the Bookies. Scottish football needs more foreign influence, it is reluctant to evolve yet fans always complain about how poor we are as a nation.Im not sure we are overly attractive for foreign based coaches
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NC1875
09-12-2021, 08:57 PM
I agree with a foreign manager. This replacing a British manager with almost a carbon copy - similar experience - is getting ridiculous. It's not like we've had relentless success with British managers.
Regardless of his merits, Alex Neil would feel like we'd have replaced Jack Ross with Jack Ross. Similar age and experience. Obviously some differences but many similarities as well.
One reason why Scottish football doesn't have widespread interest? Insular nature. Scott Brown, Kevin Thomson, Alex Neil, McInnes et al are instantly rumoured for the job. Rarely ever a non-Scottish name in the running when it comes to the Bookies. Scottish football needs more foreign influence, it is reluctant to evolve yet fans always complain about how poor we are as a nation.
Alex Neil has managed at a level Jack Ross will only dream of. Personally think he would be a great appointment
madhatter
09-12-2021, 09:02 PM
Im not sure we are overly attractive for foreign based coaches
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Why not?
Callum_62
09-12-2021, 09:04 PM
Why not?How many foreign coaches come to the spl?
I don't think that's clubs just disregarding all parts if the world bar the UK
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O'Rourke3
09-12-2021, 09:11 PM
Think it will be Alex Neil. Personally, and despite what happened at MU, I was really impressed with OGS when we played Molde and thought then he'd be a great fit for Hibs. Now he's managed in the Premiership I think he is beyond us now.
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madhatter
09-12-2021, 09:13 PM
How many foreign coaches come to the spl?
I don't think that's clubs just disregarding all parts if the world bar the UK
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Queens Park have just appointed a Dutch DoF coming from AZ Alkmaar.
I think Scottish football disregards a lot of the world tbh. Any managerial vacancies in Scotland and the immediate and persistent gossip is ex-players and Scottish or British managers unemployed.
Did we not have Caneda apply? The guy Pep recommended according the the media? Foreign coaches and managers will have historically applied. "Does he know the Scottish game?" always comes up. That and "That type of football doesn't work in Scotland".
ErinGoBraghHFC
09-12-2021, 09:22 PM
I DEMAND Neil Warnock. For the patter only.
Callum Davidson: I may have missed his name in this thread but tremendous record at St Johnstone. However, Is he defensive by necessity or is that his natural style? Interesting question...
No doubt has done very well. But football is eye bleeding, direct and defensive. No way.
Heisenberg
09-12-2021, 09:39 PM
See the record are saying Neil would prefer to stay down south.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/alex-neil-set-leave-hibs-25660083
Another couple of interesting bits in the article. RG wanted to get rid sooner + the bit about Mathie.
Greencore
09-12-2021, 09:43 PM
Scotland assistant linked.
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/john-carver-shock-hibs-link-22417695
Logie Green
09-12-2021, 09:48 PM
I DEMAND Neil Warnock. For the patter only.
Neil Warnock is a slavering ********. His teams play ***** football.
A no from me.
Gaffer1875
09-12-2021, 09:52 PM
Callum Davidson: I may have missed his name in this thread but tremendous record at St Johnstone. However, Is he defensive by necessity or is that his natural style? Interesting question...
Not too keen. His assistant manager (Maclean) is a good Hibee, though.
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bingo70
09-12-2021, 09:52 PM
https://twitter.com/scotsmansport/status/1469073118832443392?s=21
Apparently been sounding out Ross’s successor in the background for the last month and Ross was aware of it.
MikeyS
09-12-2021, 09:54 PM
I know nothing about him but seen him mentioned in the Evening News earlier.Big Raphael Wicky looks the business. Tall, handsome & a strong jaw line. Oooh er missus!
Victor
09-12-2021, 09:54 PM
Let’s see what SDG does and take it from there. There are currently no outstanding candidates, so unless the board have someone in mind, let’s see who applies and then make a decision. We have recently lost too many league games, so even a draw against St. Mirren would be a step in the right direction.
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Tobias Funke
09-12-2021, 09:58 PM
See the record are saying Neil would prefer to stay down south.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/alex-neil-set-leave-hibs-25660083
Another couple of interesting bits in the article. RG wanted to get rid sooner + the bit about Mathie.
Yes Neil had openly spoke about returning up North to manage. I don't believe anything that rag prints.
LancsHibs
09-12-2021, 10:00 PM
Apparently Neil Warnock asked about the Hibs job on BT Sport, he didn’t deny that he would be interested and then went on to say how great Rangers are!!! Would have been quite interested in Warnock but after hearing this it’s a big No Thanks. Prick when asked about Hibs takes the opportunity to talk up the Huns! How not to endear yourself to the Hibee faithful.
bigwheel
09-12-2021, 10:01 PM
Apparently Neil Warnock asked about the Hibs job on BT Sport, he didn’t deny that he would be interested and then went on to say how great Rangers are!!! Would have been quite interested in Warnock but after hearing this it’s a big No Thanks. Prick when asked about Hibs takes the opportunity to talk up the Huns! How not to endear yourself to the Hibee faithful.
Wouldn’t want that man anywhere near our club…..
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Unseen work
09-12-2021, 10:01 PM
Funny how people are just saying Neil is comparing Ross as the same manager and person.
Listen to how Neil wants his teams to play and do a bit more research into what they’re like.
A quick look at Wikipedia and everyone has their minds made up.
Such lazy comparisons.
Gordy M
09-12-2021, 10:01 PM
Let’s see what SDG does and take it from there. There are currently no outstanding candidates, so unless the board have someone in mind, let’s see who applies and then make a decision. We have recently lost too many league games, so even a draw against St. Mirren would be a step in the right direction.
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Whilst i agree, the only issue is that we win the league game and the cup, but the board have identified someone else. Leaves them in a bit of an awkward position. Id rather the new man was in place before the final....IF they know who that is.
See the record are saying Neil would prefer to stay down south.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/alex-neil-set-leave-hibs-25660083
Another couple of interesting bits in the article. RG wanted to get rid sooner + the bit about Mathie.
There's something not right about that. It’s saying RG wanted to get rid of JR sooner but Mathie was always fighting JR's corner. Can't work out when RG wanted rid of him. It must have been when Mathie was still here and he left in September when we were doing well in the league so must have been last season. After the cup final? Surely not as RG then extended JR's contract in July so why would he have done that if he wanted him gone? We were never out of the top 4 in the league so I guess that leaves getting knocked out in the semis of the other 2 cups. Or perhaps more likely it's just made up BS by the Daily Record to add a bit more spice to the story.
Maybe he should have told the players before the match instead if afterwards that he might no longer be head coach the next day.
MikeyS
09-12-2021, 10:08 PM
There's something not right about that. It’s saying RG wanted to get rid of JR sooner but Mathie was always fighting JR's corner. Can't work our when RG wanted rid of him. It must have been when Mathie was still here and he left in September when we were doing well in the league so must have been last season. After the cup final? Surely not as RG then extended JR's contract in July so why would he have done that if he wanted him gone? We were never out of the top 4 in the league so I guess that leaves getting knocked out in the semis of the other 2 cups. Or perhaps more likely it's just made up BS by the Daily Record to add a bit more spice to the story.
Thats completely made up BS by the Record, horrible weegie *****ers still haven't gotten over 2016
04Sauzee
09-12-2021, 10:09 PM
Funny how people are just saying Neil is comparing Ross as the same manager and person.
Listen to how Neil wants his teams to play and do a bit more research into what they’re like.
A quick look at Wikipedia and everyone has their minds made up.
Such lazy comparisons.
Not a dig at you just wondering where I can read or hear how Neil wants to play football? I'm trying to find out what his favoured formation etc was with Norwich and PNE.
How did Jack Ross want his team to play compared to how that transferred onto the pitch?
I guess it's easy to say how you'd like your team to play.
I'm neither for or against Neil coming in btw I'd just love to know more about his style of football.
Stuart93
09-12-2021, 10:13 PM
There's something not right about that. It’s saying RG wanted to get rid of JR sooner but Mathie was always fighting JR's corner. Can't work out when RG wanted rid of him. It must have been when Mathie was still here and he left in September when we were doing well in the league so must have been last season. After the cup final? Surely not as RG then extended JR's contract in July so why would he have done that if he wanted him gone? We were never out of the top 4 in the league so I guess that leaves getting knocked out in the semis of the other 2 cups. Or perhaps more likely it's just made up BS by the Daily Record to add a bit more spice to the story.
Maybe he should have told the players before the match instead if afterwards that he might no longer be head coach the next day.
Not to mention the DR making out that we’ve missed out on Alex Neil with their headline despite no concrete evidence we were even going to go for him
Stevie Reid
09-12-2021, 10:15 PM
Disappointing about Neil, if true.
Rumble de Thump
09-12-2021, 10:18 PM
The Daily Record journos think that football clubs draw up a shortlist of candidates then hand that over to the bookies.
The 90+2
09-12-2021, 10:29 PM
Not to mention the DR making out that we’ve missed out on Alex Neil with their headline despite no concrete evidence we were even going to go for him
Neils in Scotland evidently from last night. It would sell more clicks to reveal that he wanted the job instead of not. There's nothing in it at all for the Record to look stupid saying the bookies fave doesn't want the job. They probably have been told this or some other branch of the Mirror have let them know he wants the Ipswich gig.
Unseen work
09-12-2021, 10:29 PM
Odd that the Daily record understands that.
Yet 24 hours ago Neil was on the radio saying he would come back to Scotland and for a top 6 club.
Callum_62
09-12-2021, 10:40 PM
https://youtu.be/9YmRRLc73Ac
Back to the full back or goalie?
NEXT!
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Unseen work
09-12-2021, 10:47 PM
Uwe Rosler.
I’ll keep dreaming.
Go after Callum Davidson probably won’t want the job but I think we need to try
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Isn’t that the man who is taking St Johnstone into the Championship
Someone with a four syllable name please. Haven't had a good 'green and white army' chant since Tony Mowbray.
Hibs12thMan once sang Calderwood’s Green and White Army for ten minutes straight. That was about the only positive aspect of Colin’s tenure!
Alex Neil’s Green and White Army sounds OK?
I’m a three syllable man myself 😀
Mikey_1875
09-12-2021, 11:57 PM
Hibs12thMan once sang Calderwood’s Green and White Army for ten minutes straight. That was about the only positive aspect of Colin’s tenure!
Alex Neil’s Green and White Army sounds OK?
I’m a three syllable man myself 😀
Better to have two syllables so it fits into a GTF chant in a couple of years!
Pedantic_Hibee
10-12-2021, 04:52 AM
Duncan Ferguson.
Hermit Crab
10-12-2021, 06:19 AM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/alex-neil-set-leave-hibs-25660083
JimBHibees
10-12-2021, 06:37 AM
Odd that the Daily record understands that.
Yet 24 hours ago Neil was on the radio saying he would come back to Scotland and for a top 6 club.
Indeed
Iain G
10-12-2021, 06:43 AM
Odd that the Daily record understands that.
Yet 24 hours ago Neil was on the radio saying he would come back to Scotland and for a top 6 club.
That rules us out then 😁
Jones28
10-12-2021, 07:56 AM
Apparently Neil Warnock asked about the Hibs job on BT Sport, he didn’t deny that he would be interested and then went on to say how great Rangers are!!! Would have been quite interested in Warnock but after hearing this it’s a big No Thanks. Prick when asked about Hibs takes the opportunity to talk up the Huns! How not to endear yourself to the Hibee faithful.
**** off Warnock, ask a Boro fan about him. They can’t stand him.
timewilltell
10-12-2021, 08:02 AM
John Carver, ex Newcastle being talked about as possible candidate.
Steven79
10-12-2021, 08:04 AM
John Carver, ex Newcastle being talked about as possible candidate.I would take Ross back over him or Warnock.
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hibsbollah
10-12-2021, 08:05 AM
John Carver, ex Newcastle being talked about as possible candidate.
Google tells me he looks like Kevin from The Wonder Years.
Heisenberg
10-12-2021, 08:05 AM
John Carver, ex Newcastle being talked about as possible candidate.
I’m sure he was getting his name into the press for the job when Lennon left too. Don’t think there’s any chance he gets it.
Hibs90
10-12-2021, 08:06 AM
John Carver, ex Newcastle being talked about as possible candidate.
Talked about by who?
Won’t happen
allezsauzee
10-12-2021, 08:07 AM
Maybe Ron has someone lined up from the American Soccerball Leagues?
timewilltell
10-12-2021, 08:07 AM
Talked about by who?
Won’t happen
BBC Sport.
Scotland assistant head coach John Carver, who had three spells in charge of Newcastle United as well as time with Leeds United, Toronto, Sheffield United and Omonia, is a surprise name in the frame for the Hibernian head coach role vacated on Thursday by Jack Ross, with the 56-year-old hankering for a return to full-time football
bingo70
10-12-2021, 08:10 AM
Talked about by who?
Won’t happen
The Scottish Sun were reporting it.
Clearly just him throwing his hat in the ring though.
Hibs90
10-12-2021, 08:12 AM
BBC Sport.
Scotland assistant head coach John Carver, who had three spells in charge of Newcastle United as well as time with Leeds United, Toronto, Sheffield United and Omonia, is a surprise name in the frame for the Hibernian head coach role vacated on Thursday by Jack Ross, with the 56-year-old hankering for a return to full-time football
Tah.
I’ll take a hard pass on that. Actually, the more I read about Alex Neil, the more I think he’s the obvious choice.
timewilltell
10-12-2021, 08:13 AM
Tah.
I’ll take a hard pass on that. Actually, the more I read about Alex Neil, the more I think he’s the obvious choice.
Agreed
GreenNWhiteArmy
10-12-2021, 08:27 AM
8 Hibs next manager candidates as Jack Ross departure has Ron Gordon on the hunt for new Easter Road boss - Daily Record (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/8-hibs-next-manager-candidates-25653622)
Hardly the most inspiring list (and it is the Daily Record), but intrigued by Raphael Wicky, and to a lesser extent Gary Monk.
bingo70
10-12-2021, 08:36 AM
8 Hibs next manager candidates as Jack Ross departure has Ron Gordon on the hunt for new Easter Road boss - Daily Record (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/8-hibs-next-manager-candidates-25653622)
Hardly the most inspiring list (and it is the Daily Record), but intrigued by Raphael Wicky, and to a lesser extent Gary Monk.
Raphael Wicky seemed to do a really good job at Basel but ***** at Chicago.
I’m not really clued up on Swiss football, I’ve obviously heard of Basel as they had some really good spells in Europe under Gross. Are they traditionally one kf the big boys in Swiss football or did they just over achieve for a bit?
Scorrie
10-12-2021, 08:36 AM
Wicky is intriguing. Played in Bundesliga. Maybe going down the German style pressing high tempo game?
Weegreenman
10-12-2021, 08:39 AM
Seen an old 90yr old lady getting off the bus with 20 bags, messages, laundry… really struggling. I asked “can you manage love?”
“Aye I can son” she said “but I’m no taking that Hibs job” 🤣
Stolen from FB 😂😂😂
Greenworld
10-12-2021, 08:41 AM
Isn’t that the man who is taking St Johnstone into the ChampionshipCorrect the similarities with Ross are there for all to 1 good season then free fall
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Callum_62
10-12-2021, 08:43 AM
Wicky is intriguing. Played in Bundesliga. Maybe going down the German style pressing high tempo game?Is he intriguing because of his ability or because he's foreign?
He was really poor at Chicago fire and be fore that managed an u17s team
If he was Scottish I think we would mostly be against it
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Tambo
10-12-2021, 08:44 AM
BBC Sport.
Scotland assistant head coach John Carver, who had three spells in charge of Newcastle United as well as time with Leeds United, Toronto, Sheffield United and Omonia, is a surprise name in the frame for the Hibernian head coach role vacated on Thursday by Jack Ross, with the 56-year-old hankering for a return to full-time football
Was he not at the county game in the stands with SDG?
04Sauzee
10-12-2021, 08:48 AM
Raphael Wicky seemed to do a really good job at Basel but ***** at Chicago.
I’m not really clued up on Swiss football, I’ve obviously heard of Basel as they had some really good spells in Europe under Gross. Are they traditionally one kf the big boys in Swiss football or did they just over achieve for a bit?
The thing with Wicky is his stats at Basel are comparable with most other managers at that club and it looks like he only managed 50 games so bit sure why he left the club . His stats and managerial choices since have been a little strange.
Jones28
10-12-2021, 08:54 AM
8 Hibs next manager candidates as Jack Ross departure has Ron Gordon on the hunt for new Easter Road boss - Daily Record (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/8-hibs-next-manager-candidates-25653622)
Hardly the most inspiring list (and it is the Daily Record), but intrigued by Raphael Wicky, and to a lesser extent Gary Monk.
Donati is intriguing - experience at big clubs and now a fully licensed coach. It would be a big risk but is much more exciting than the others.
Heisenberg
10-12-2021, 08:56 AM
Was he not at the county game in the stands with SDG?
Probably watching Nisbet as part of his job with Scotland.
Scorrie
10-12-2021, 09:03 AM
Is he intriguing because of his ability or because he's foreign?
He was really poor at Chicago fire and be fore that managed an u17s team
If he was Scottish I think we would mostly be against it
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Ok then…intriguing as in pish!
SlickShoes
10-12-2021, 09:08 AM
Raphael Wicky seemed to do a really good job at Basel but ***** at Chicago.
I’m not really clued up on Swiss football, I’ve obviously heard of Basel as they had some really good spells in Europe under Gross. Are they traditionally one kf the big boys in Swiss football or did they just over achieve for a bit?
Basel and Bern are the Rangers and Celtic, budgets miles ahead of everyone else and if they finish below second place in the league its a total disaster. Most of the other teams in the league don't even get more than 5k fans at games, whereas Basel and Bern are playing in the champions league most years.
If you think Jack Ross played boring slow football, then I'd invite you to go watch the Swiss Super league, it is pretty dull and conservative style of play overall.
CapitalGreen
10-12-2021, 09:09 AM
Raphael Wicky seemed to do a really good job at Basel but ***** at Chicago.
I’m not really clued up on Swiss football, I’ve obviously heard of Basel as they had some really good spells in Europe under Gross. Are they traditionally one kf the big boys in Swiss football or did they just over achieve for a bit?
He didn’t do a really good job, he took over them in 2017 when the title was pretty much wrapped up already and then the following season they failed to win the league for the first time in 9 years.
bingo70
10-12-2021, 09:12 AM
He didn’t do a really good job, he took over them in 2017 when the title was pretty much wrapped up already and then the following season they failed to win the league for the first time in 9 years.
So what you’re saying is, average points per game metric on transfermarkt isn’t a full proof way to judge a potential manager?
Well that’s 24 hours of my life wasted!
Brightside
10-12-2021, 09:13 AM
Scot Gemmel anyone?
Since452
10-12-2021, 09:18 AM
Scot Gemmel anyone?
I'm always suspicious of people who's name is Scott with one t. So it's a no from me :greengrin
bingo70
10-12-2021, 09:18 AM
I'm always suspicious of people who's name is Scott with one t. So it's a no from me :greengrin
His names actually Scotland so it’s a yes from me.
bingo70
10-12-2021, 09:19 AM
Scot Gemmel anyone?
Wouldn’t be a Hibs manager search if his name never came up. I think that ship has sailed though.
Brightside
10-12-2021, 09:20 AM
Wouldn’t be a Hibs manager search if his name never came up. I think that ship has sailed though.
I know. I always put him up. Big fan but he doesn’t seem that fussed with day to day management.
hibbyfraelibby
10-12-2021, 09:27 AM
Just seen Craig Levein in Greggs on Easter Road...
Since452
10-12-2021, 09:30 AM
Need a Mowbray type appointment here. None of the names mentioned excite me. Not that Mowbray's appointment excited me at the time but you know what i mean.
we are hibs
10-12-2021, 09:31 AM
Whos putting money on Ronny Delia? All of a sudden hes 3rd favourite at 5/1. Id say thats highly unlikely to happen. Hes just won the MLS
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Callum_62
10-12-2021, 09:32 AM
Whos putting money on Ronny Delia? All of a sudden hes 3rd favourite at 5/1. Id say thats highly unlikely to happen. Hes just won the MLS
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Delia - v happy
Mcinnes or Neil - reasonably happy
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04Sauzee
10-12-2021, 09:34 AM
Need a Mowbray type appointment here. None of the names mentioned excite me. Not that Mowbray's appointment excited me at the time but you know what i mean.
Liam Manning is available at 16/1, I know that doesn't mean much. He's also quoted for the Ipswich job.
His MKD team are full of young players and he has worked in youth settings before so definitely likes to develop young talent and isn't afraid to play them. Perhaps with not much experience as a head coach and only in his mid 30s it's maybe to much of a gamble and we will look for more experience? Experienced doesn't always Equate to good though.
h185forever
10-12-2021, 09:35 AM
A foreign coach would struggle here. They’re used to having a certain type of player at their disposal, and as much as I think we have a reasonably talented squad, they struggle to play as a team and none of them would cut it on the continent as they aren’t consistent enough.
Personally I’d prefer someone who knows the British/Scottish game who I think would have a better chance of moulding us quickly before we keep dropping down the table.
The only two I would like to see considered are Neil and McInnes……though I’m not overjoyed at the thought of either.
It has been interesting watching the relatively high turnover of senior staff, not players, at Easter road over the last 12-18 months and if I’m honest that worries me more the the current footballing issues which is worrying enough.
LancsHibs
10-12-2021, 09:40 AM
Uwe Rosler please. He is available, contract with Fortuna Düsseldorf not renewed.
Crab apple
10-12-2021, 09:42 AM
According to the Sun, Alex Neil apparently doesn't see returning to management in Scotland as a priority and wants to manage again in England.
bingo70
10-12-2021, 09:44 AM
Whos putting money on Ronny Delia? All of a sudden hes 3rd favourite at 5/1. Id say thats highly unlikely to happen. Hes just won the MLS
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Would be a terrific appointment.
I think Europe is the place to be if you’re involved in football. Might feel like he’s done what he can there and wants to get back here? Does a good job at Hibs and he’ll get a job in England.
bingo70
10-12-2021, 09:45 AM
According to the Sun, Alex Neil apparently doesn't see returning to management in Scotland as a priority and wants to manage again in England.
He said the other day on the radio he’d be up for working up here again.
Sounds like he’s been told he’s no getting the Hibs job so changed his time so it doesn’t look like he’s getting rejected.
chippy
10-12-2021, 09:47 AM
According to the Sun, Alex Neil apparently doesn't see returning to management in Scotland as a priority and wants to manage again in England.
maybe getting his retaliation in first if he’s aware that he’s not getting it and we’re in for someone else.
allezsauzee
10-12-2021, 10:01 AM
Surely a no brainer that we try to get Jim Goodwin, he will know better than anyone which St Mirren players are worth signing. I would suggest a change in colours to black and white stripes next season too.
GloryGlory
10-12-2021, 10:12 AM
He said the other day on the radio he’d be up for working up here again.
Sounds like he’s been told he’s no getting the Hibs job so changed his time so it doesn’t look like he’s getting rejected.
Either that or he wants to manage in England but sees Hibs as a backstop until something else turns up. In which case, he can do one.
Brightside
10-12-2021, 10:13 AM
He said the other day on the radio he’d be up for working up here again.
Sounds like he’s been told he’s no getting the Hibs job so changed his time so it doesn’t look like he’s getting rejected.
Exactly. He said he’d like to manage a top 6 club in Scotland. So Hibs are out.
Danderhall Hibs
10-12-2021, 10:14 AM
He said the other day on the radio he’d be up for working up here again.
Sounds like he’s been told he’s no getting the Hibs job so changed his time so it doesn’t look like he’s getting rejected.
Yeah it must be - that's a complete u-turn from him.
Callum_62
10-12-2021, 10:17 AM
Either that or he wants to manage in England but sees Hibs as a backstop until something else turns up. In which case, he can do one.Every manager will see hibs as a backstop
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Danderhall Hibs
10-12-2021, 10:18 AM
Every manager will see hibs as a backstop
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They're here with a 2 year shelf-life; they do well and leave for England or we get bored of them and bin them. There's no point getting too worked up about who the next guy is - he'll be away soon enough.
NORTHERNHIBBY
10-12-2021, 10:22 AM
Either that or he wants to manage in England but sees Hibs as a backstop until something else turns up. In which case, he can do one.
Neil might be one of the next names to get on The Championship gravy train now that Paul Lambert has got off.
bingo70
10-12-2021, 10:25 AM
They're here with a 2 year shelf-life; they do well and leave for England or we get bored of them and bin them. There's no point getting too worked up about who the next guy is - he'll be away soon enough.
I don’t disagree with that (that’s the first in a while)
There’s no loyalty in football and that goes both ways. Anybody who expects it from a manager is an idiot and any manager expecting it from a club is an idiot.
If I was involved in football I’d chase the £ all day long.
Danderhall Hibs
10-12-2021, 10:26 AM
I don’t disagree with that (that’s the first in a while)
There’s no loyalty in football and that goes both ways. Anybody who expects it from a manager is an idiot and any manager expecting it from a club is an idiot.
If I was involved in football I’d chase the £ all day long.
Twice in a day mate - there's another agreement further up. Your posts are becoming far more entertaining :greengrin
Brightside
10-12-2021, 10:26 AM
They're here with a 2 year shelf-life; they do well and leave for England or we get bored of them and bin them. There's no point getting too worked up about who the next guy is - he'll be away soon enough.
Yep. Bit of a shame. Managers need longer. But you have to accept a bit of up and down along the way.
JXM73
10-12-2021, 10:34 AM
I'm still wavering over good or bad to sack Ross, but its done now... next coach I'd rather get someone who is in a job... goodwin or alexander... why? Most unemployed coaches are unemployed as they failed in their last job,if we're saving money I'd want McInnes.. get us hard beat first...
Callum_62
10-12-2021, 10:38 AM
I'm still wavering over good or bad to sack Ross, but its done now... next coach I'd rather get someone who is in a job... goodwin or alexander... why? Most unemployed coaches are unemployed as they failed in their last job,if we're saving money I'd want McInnes.. get us hard beat first...
Mcinnes wouldn't come cheaply
Goodwin hasn't done much and while Alexander has built a good motherwell sides its fairly early days for him
He was also sacked from Salford and was without a job until motherwell
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GloryGlory
10-12-2021, 10:47 AM
Every manager will see hibs as a backstop
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Yes - but I don't want to see a coach who comes in from day 1 planning to move on as soon as possible. I'd like someone who is a bit more committed to the job from the start and earns the right to move up by what he does at ER.
May21/05/216
10-12-2021, 10:49 AM
Hopefully the next manager doesn't get of to a bad start as all you will hear is we should have stuck with Jack Ross
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CLASS OF 72 -73
10-12-2021, 10:56 AM
Seeing a lot of press on John Carver. Please not :bitchy:
eastmainsmsh
10-12-2021, 11:04 AM
Paul lambert anyone premier league manager champions league winner experienced and played in teams with quality with Hitzfeld and MON
WhileTheChief..
10-12-2021, 11:09 AM
I’d take almost anyone who has managed in the EPL. Lambert would certainly offer something.
I’m less cynical about the future now. I think RG will pull out all the stops and we’re gonna be genuinely surprised and pleased with the name he comes up with.
He knows full well that he has to produce the wow factor.
Dalianwanda
10-12-2021, 11:09 AM
Seeing a lot of press on John Carver. Please not :bitchy:
Sounds like him touting himself for the job rather than us being interested....gives the papers something to write if we arent giving them anything
Dalianwanda
10-12-2021, 11:11 AM
I’d take almost anyone who has managed in the EPL. Lambert would certainly offer something.
I’m less cynical about the future now. I think RG will pull out all the stops and we’re gonna be genuinely surprised and pleased with the name he comes up with.
He knows full well that he has to produce the wow factor.
Even if he does some will manage to find fault in the appointment from the off.....Genuinely optimistic that he's going to pick a high calibre boss though
Stevie Reid
10-12-2021, 11:12 AM
Mcinnes wouldn't come cheaply
Goodwin hasn't done much and while Alexander has built a good motherwell sides its fairly early days for him
He was also sacked from Salford and was without a job until motherwell
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McInnes wouldn't be cheap but no manager we hire will. He would accept the job on the same terms as Ross no problem, IMO.
On Alexander, Gary Neville admitted it was a mistake to sack him:
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/salford-neville-alexander-sacking-mistake-21221170
JimBHibees
10-12-2021, 11:14 AM
Would be a terrific appointment.
I think Europe is the place to be if you’re involved in football. Might feel like he’s done what he can there and wants to get back here? Does a good job at Hibs and he’ll get a job in England.
Was he not quite poor at Celtic? No way he is coming here I wouldn't think
Hibees1973
10-12-2021, 11:17 AM
Ron is under the microscope now after his hiring & firing inclination throughout the club recently.
From hibs.net there is a significant split in the Hibs support about whether Ross should have been sacked, the timing is particularly dubious.
I'm not predicting who us going to get the job, but my feeling is he has to go with someone of experience of Scottish football, for example McIness, Deila.
If Ron appoints someone left field and has a poor start, then it's not going to be pretty.
Hibs are at a real crossroads just now and it's unpredictable. About the only thing I can predict is that Ron won't sack his son.
worcesterhibby
10-12-2021, 11:40 AM
I don't get the insistence on hiring managers who know the Scottish game.
Rangers and Celtic generally win everything up here and don't have a history of employing managers who "Know the Scottish Game" in recent years.
Gerard
Postecoglou
Brendan Rogers
Ronny Delia
Pedro Caxhino
Mark Warburton
Admittedly Caxhino was rubbish, but you get my point.
Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City are the top three in England at the moment and all three have coaches that had never managed in England before they arrived.
I'd love us to think outside the box and bring in someone with flair, modern ideas, international connections and above all positivity and charisma rather than one of the usual suspects.
bigwheel
10-12-2021, 11:49 AM
I don't get the insistence on hiring managers who know the Scottish game.
Rangers and Celtic generally win everything up here and don't have a history of employing managers who "Know the Scottish Game" in recent years.
Gerard
Postecoglou
Brendan Rogers
Ronny Delia
Pedro Caxhino
Mark Warburton
Admittedly Caxhino was rubbish, but you get my point.
Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City are the top three in England at the moment and all three have coaches that had never managed in England before they arrived.
I'd love us to think outside the box and bring in someone with flair, modern ideas, international connections and above all positivity and charisma rather than one of the usual suspects.
If we could get the quality of some of those teams I don’t think we would worry about their scottish experience …but at our level, it could be a key element in the mix of a head coaches skills .
ScottB
10-12-2021, 11:54 AM
I think it’s not so much a need for experience of Scottish football as not underestimating Scottish football that’s needed.
heretoday
10-12-2021, 12:03 PM
Looks like Neil. Not inspiring.
Was he partly responsible for sending us down in that nightmare play-off?
Coco Bryce
10-12-2021, 12:10 PM
Looks like Neil. Not inspiring.
Was he partly responsible for sending us down in that nightmare play-off?
Yes.
JimBHibees
10-12-2021, 12:14 PM
Looks like Neil. Not inspiring.
Was he partly responsible for sending us down in that nightmare play-off?
Why does it look like Neil?
Would be delighted if it was him.
Stuart93
10-12-2021, 12:16 PM
Looks like Neil. Not inspiring.
Was he partly responsible for sending us down in that nightmare play-off?
Surely that’s a good thing? Player manager who led a Hamilton team to promotion and punched above their weight for years because of it
Fergus52
10-12-2021, 12:22 PM
Surely that’s a good thing? Player manager who led a Hamilton team to promotion and punched above their weight for years because of it
His spell at Preston is not convincing at all, but I'm pretty sure he had Hamilton 2nd in the league at Xmas while playing good football
Daily Hibs
10-12-2021, 12:32 PM
Left field shout - Barry Ferguson. Won all there is to win in Scotland, played in a European Final and Captained Scotland. Done well so far in his managerial career and is very balanced on his weekly show with Peter Martin.
Feel free to shout it down though but thought it was worth a shout. Cheers.
Callum_62
10-12-2021, 12:34 PM
His spell at Preston is not convincing at all, but I'm pretty sure he had Hamilton 2nd in the league at Xmas while playing good football
Im not sure Preston have that big a budget in that league to be fair
04Sauzee
10-12-2021, 12:39 PM
Left field shout - Barry Ferguson. Won all there is to win in Scotland, played in a European Final and Captained Scotland. Done well so far in his managerial career and is very balanced on his weekly show with Peter Martin.
Feel free to shout it down though but thought it was worth a shout. Cheers.
Decent 1st post that 👀👀:confused:
Stuart93
10-12-2021, 12:41 PM
Left field shout - Barry Ferguson. Won all there is to win in Scotland, played in a European Final and Captained Scotland. Done well so far in his managerial career and is very balanced on his weekly show with Peter Martin.
Feel free to shout it down though but thought it was worth a shout. Cheers.
Hahahaha. By far the worst suggestion yet.
Success as a player doesn’t equal success as a manager. Nor does being balanced on a weekly show
Stevie Reid
10-12-2021, 01:20 PM
His spell at Preston is not convincing at all, but I'm pretty sure he had Hamilton 2nd in the league at Xmas while playing good football
Not so sure about that re: Preston. He took them to 7th (two points off the playoffs), which was their highest league finish for 9 years at that time - 14th the following season (13 points from the playoffs and 21 away from relegation spot) and then 9th (four points off the playoffs) - was sacked the following March with them 16th (9 above relegation, 18 from playoffs). His assistant took over and led them to 13th. Was just sacked this week with them 18th.
Decent spell overall from Neil.
Lendo
10-12-2021, 01:38 PM
Left field shout - Barry Ferguson. Won all there is to win in Scotland, played in a European Final and Captained Scotland. Done well so far in his managerial career and is very balanced on his weekly show with Peter Martin.
Feel free to shout it down though but thought it was worth a shout. Cheers.
Outstanding intro to the forum. I’ll pass (no pun intended) on Barry The Crab thanks.
GreenCastle
10-12-2021, 01:51 PM
Whos putting money on Ronny Delia? All of a sudden hes 3rd favourite at 5/1. Id say thats highly unlikely to happen. Hes just won the MLS
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It won't be Delia - no chance.
He won the Eastern Conference in USA. He will win the MLS Cup if they win the final against Portland this weekend - but they are underdogs. Would still be quite impressive if he wins it.
Delia has put himself in a good place and he will have better offers than Hibs.
9 days till the cup final...are we going to appoint sometime for that game?
Would they want to risk a new manager in that game with limited preparation with the team.
bingo70
10-12-2021, 02:06 PM
Anybody know why Skybet aren’t offering odds on the Hibs job?
I messaged them yesterday and they just said they wouldn’t run a book on it.
The only time I’ve seen that is when it was widely known that Wilder was getting the Boro job.
Fergus52
10-12-2021, 02:14 PM
Not so sure about that re: Preston. He took them to 7th (two points off the playoffs), which was their highest league finish for 9 years at that time - 14th the following season (13 points from the playoffs and 21 away from relegation spot) and then 9th (four points off the playoffs) - was sacked the following March with them 16th (9 above relegation, 18 from playoffs). His assistant took over and led them to 13th. Was just sacked this week with them 18th.
Decent spell overall from Neil.
fair enough :aok:
Didn't realise how close he was to the play off's that season they come 9th.
HoboHarry
10-12-2021, 02:23 PM
Left field shout - Barry Ferguson. Won all there is to win in Scotland, played in a European Final and Captained Scotland. Done well so far in his managerial career and is very balanced on his weekly show with Peter Martin.
Feel free to shout it down though but thought it was worth a shout. Cheers.
Not even night yet and you are drunk already....
Iain G
10-12-2021, 02:32 PM
It won't be Delia - no chance.
He won the Eastern Conference in USA. He will win the MLS Cup if they win the final against Portland this weekend - but they are underdogs. Would still be quite impressive if he wins it.
Delia has put himself in a good place and he will have better offers than Hibs.
9 days till the cup final...are we going to appoint sometime for that game?
Would they want to risk a new manager in that game with limited preparation with the team.
Ben must have worked with Delia at Norwich? 😉
jacomo
10-12-2021, 02:42 PM
Why does it look like Neil?
Would be delighted if it was him.
BBC gossip column today… a few names being thrown about but Neil seems the front runner:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59606322
Jones28
10-12-2021, 02:46 PM
Left field shout - Barry Ferguson. Won all there is to win in Scotland, played in a European Final and Captained Scotland. Done well so far in his managerial career and is very balanced on his weekly show with Peter Martin.
Feel free to shout it down though but thought it was worth a shout. Cheers.
As far as first posts go, this is a beauty :aok:
Please please please NEVER Barry ****ing Ferguson.
Smartie
10-12-2021, 02:46 PM
Outstanding intro to the forum. I’ll pass (no pun intended) on Barry The Crab thanks.
Sideways presumably?
I actually thought Barry Ferguson was a fantastic player, underrated by many.
Not sure he has what it takes to be a head coach and I certainly wouldn't be in a hurry to see him get the job at Hibs.
Bostonhibby
10-12-2021, 02:47 PM
Just seen Craig Levein in Greggs on Easter Road...Aye but theres a ladbrokes next door.
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thebakerboy
10-12-2021, 02:49 PM
I would be very surprised if Hibs under Ron dont have a plan in place for this eventuality and will be very sure already who the replacement will be.
Jones28
10-12-2021, 02:55 PM
Very very unlikely, and thats an understatement, but I'd love Frank Lampard.
Frank Lampard reveals how he was sacked by Chelsea, spy-gate & more to Gary Neville | The Overlap - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOrfD3Dumus)
Good interview, speaks very well and comes across as just a genuinely good lad.
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