Could Coronavirus see the football season ended early?

[Captain Trips]

I thought English was your first language, sorry.

You elaborated after complaining about my post and after I explained why I said what I did, you complained again.

Forget it. This is not how conversations work.

If you do not understand what I have written that is your issue as I thought English was your first language also. Complained? Who complained? You,about me taking the disease seriously you mean?

You were under the impression I thought football more important, you got it wrong we all make mistakes. Not my problem

[The 90+2]

Hot water, soap and paper towels would be a good start. The east has been up nearly 10 years and were still waiting on hot taps

Has this ever been taken up by the fans rep? I take my children to the games I take baby wipes. It’s ****ing stinking in the toilets, thankfully I know the shortcut to a clean disabled toilet for them.

[The 90+2]

I thought English was your first language, sorry.

You elaborated after complaining about my post and after I explained why I said what I did, you complained again.

Forget it. This is not how conversations work.

Just say sorry. You’ve got this wrong 😁🤭

[theonlywayisup]

Some worrying facts, official figures show the death toll in Italy has risen by 196 to 827 during the last 24 hours. This is a 31% rise from yesterday, and the largest jump since the start of the outbreak in the country. This virus is not going away!

Wow, another 196 deaths in one day.

Also, was just looking at the growth in cases in Italy compared to the rest of Europe. There were much more cases in France and Germany and even the UK compared to Italy up to around the 21st February, but then there was a huge increases in the number of cases and the number of deaths. I'm not sure why Italy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_pandemic#/media/File:COVID-19-outbreak-timeline.gif

[Hibbyradge]

If you do not understand what I have written that is your issue as I thought English was your first language also. Complained? Who complained? You,about me taking the disease seriously you mean?

You were under the impression I thought football more important, you got it wrong we all make mistakes. Not my problem

Your first post made out that you thought football was more important than "something even as serious as this". You later had to elaborate to clear up the impression that you had given. And now you're blaming me for not realising that what you said wasn't what you meant? Classic stuff.

It really is your problem if you're posting things that are so badly worded that people don't understand what you're trying to say. What's the point of anyone posting if they're not getting their point across?

In your Japanese analogy, yes, it would be the Japanese person's problem if they were posting in Japanese on an English speaking forum.

[Hibbyradge]

Has anybody made the decision not to go to the game or any other events? I wonder how itll impact the crowds this weekend . It may be a good yardstick to judge peoples thoughts on things

I have a train booked to come up on Friday, and a match ticket for Saturday, but I'm having second thoughts although I've not made a definite decision as yet.

[Keith_M]

Has this ever been taken up by the fans rep? I take my children to the games I take baby wipes. It’s ****ing stinking in the toilets, thankfully I know the shortcut to a clean disabled toilet for them.


It would be good if the club did something about hot water, but the state of the toilets is down to some of the Fans that use it.

Piss1ng on the toilet seats and floor, leaving tissues all over the place and not flushing the toilets.

Some folk are just disgusting and spoil it for the majority.

[Andy74]

It would be good if the club did something about hot water, but the state of the toilets is down to some of the Fans that use it.

Piss1ng on the toilet seats and floor, leaving tissues all over the place and not flushing the toilets.

Some folk are just disgusting and spoil it for the majority.

I’m fairly sure that washing hands in cold water isn’t much different than washing them in hot water as far as bacteria and viruses go. Unless folk stick their hands in boiling water!

[Captain Trips]

Your first post made out that you thought football was more important than "something even as serious as this". You later had to elaborate to clear up the impression that you had given. And now you're blaming me for not realising that what you said wasn't what you meant? Classic stuff.

It really is your problem if you're posting things that are so badly worded that people don't understand what you're trying to say. What's the point of anyone posting if they're not getting their point across?

In your Japanese analogy, yes, it would be the Japanese person's problem if they were posting in Japanese on an English speaking forum.

My first post TO YOU made out I thought football was more important. I can't legislate for you getting the wrong impression. I don't need to justify you failing to understand.

I had to clear up the wrong impression YOU took on it. Unless I missed your appointment of official decider on what "people" understand as a pose to what you yourself failed to understand then I apologise.

If you don't understand me it's your fault. It's in English your first language I believe.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Of course that is what my assumption is based on,what do you suggest I base it on? Your scenario? There is no correct scenario so I am calling it on what is going on just now.

Christ, you seem to be someone that could have an argument when you’re the only one in the room!

[Captain Trips]

Christ, you seem to be someone that could have an argument when you’re the only one in the room!

So could you then surely by that response?

[Smartie]

I’m fairly sure that washing hands in cold water isn’t much different than washing them in hot water as far as bacteria and viruses go. Unless folk stick their hands in boiling water!

It's more likely that you'll hold your hands under the water for the necessary time to really clean them if the water is warm than if the water is uncomfortably cold. Or boiling for that matter.

I used to work with someone who insisted that you couldn't properly wash your hands unless the water was unbearable hot to kill germs. It was insanity and every time you put a tap on after her the water would burn you.

[Captain Trips]

Let's hope there is no pissing in the sink again. Disgraceful behaviour in our own toilets.

[Eyrie]

It's more likely that you'll hold your hands under the water for the necessary time to really clean them if the water is warm than if the water is uncomfortably cold. Or boiling for that matter.

I used to work with someone who insisted that you couldn't properly wash your hands unless the water was unbearable hot to kill germs. It was insanity and every time you put a tap on after her the water would burn you.

Correct. Apparently having the water hot enough that the temperature itself makes a difference to the bugs would mean scalding yourself.

[Hibbyradge]

My first post TO YOU made out I thought football was more important. I can't legislate for you getting the wrong impression. I don't need to justify you failing to understand.

I had to clear up the wrong impression YOU took on it. Unless I missed your appointment of official decider on what "people" understand as a pose to what you yourself failed to understand then I apologise.

If you don't understand me it's your fault. It's in English your first language I believe.

Sure thing. :aok:

But despite what you originally said, we now agree that cancelling the league is not at all unacceptable if the pandemic continues.

I'm glad we've cleared that up. If only you'd said that in the first place.

[Captain Trips]

Sure thing. :aok:

But despite what you originally said, we now agree that cancelling the league is not at all unacceptable if the pandemic continues.

I'm glad we've cleared that up. If only you'd said that in the first place.

Yes you were right all along, I just failed to articulate myself. Feel better? Good.

[Carheenlea]

Is it just me or does almost every thread these days descend into petty squabbling? Becoming tiresome.

[Hibbyradge]

Is it just me or does almost every thread these days descend into petty squabbling? Becoming tiresome.

There's always one ...

:wink:

[Captain Trips]

Is it just me or does almost every thread these days descend into petty squabbling? Becoming tiresome.

Aye it is just you :)

[Coco Bryce]

Heard there is a meeting tonight discussing the real possibility of schools closing very soon.

[RoYO!]

England is the UK. The other component parts are irrelevant and just a play on words.

Open another thread elsewhere if you want to discuss this.

You've been trying hopelessly to get a rise out of folk for several pages now.

Time for a new past time :)

[Ronniekirk]

Heard there is a meeting tonight discussing the real possibility of schools closing very soon.

I posted on non hibs game thread that at st Mirren game tonight stewards were told to check fans and if signs of heavy cold or coughing not let them in That may be the headline and don’t know if people would be pulled over and asked questions
But wondered if this was a sign things are changing
Death toll up to 8 tonight in UK as a whole and in Scotland first case of Community Transmission confirmed They said this was always going to be trigger for next phase to be implemented and measures being ramped up
The peak is expected in next 10 days or so so if numbers and deaths both keep rising they won’t be able to stay in containment phase


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[calumhibee1]

Heard there is a meeting tonight discussing the real possibility of schools closing very soon.

Definitely being considered in NI.

[Lago]

Also clever and ruthless.

I think what the English have decided is to take the CoronaVirus on the chin and let it feed its way through the population with the minimum of economic and social disruption.

A lot of empirical studies discussed elsewhere support this approach.

European countries are more trying to "flatten the curve" but England is going out on a limb as far as this part of the hemisphere and is not.
Nonsense, Italy has hardly flattened the curve.

[Smartie]

I posted on non hibs game thread that at st Mirren game tonight stewards were told to check fans and if signs of heavy cold or coughing not let them in That may be the headline and don’t know if people would be pulled over and asked questions
But wondered if this was a sign things are changing
Death toll up to 8 tonight in UK as a whole and in Scotland first case of Community Transmission confirmed They said this was always going to be trigger for next phase to be implemented and measures being ramped up
The peak is expected in next 10 days or so so if numbers and deaths both keep rising they won’t be able to stay in containment phase


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Ok, so we don’t yet think we have thousands of infected people roaming at large.

But is it just me, or is it quite a big ask to be giving the task of sifting through a crowd and (probably) having multiple conversations at close quarters with folk who are coughing to a football steward who is probably on a minimum wage?

If they have concerns, the game shouldn’t go ahead. This smacks of someone wanting to look like they’re doing something useful, doing anything but and potentially chucking vulnerable folk onto the front line.

[Keith_M]

Is it just me or does almost every thread these days descend into petty squabbling? Becoming tiresome.


:agree:

It's very tiresome.

[BegbieHSC]

Definitely being considered in NI.

Got a pal who’s a teacher, and apparently local schools here are preparing ‘online classrooms’ extensively, expecting an announcement in the not too distant future.

[Lago]

It would be good if the club did something about hot water, but the state of the toilets is down to some of the Fans that use it.

Piss1ng on the toilet seats and floor, leaving tissues all over the place and not flushing the toilets.

Some folk are just disgusting and spoil it for the majority.
Your totally correct, I've never understood the behaviour of spoiling & soiling parts of the ground of the club you support, strange.

[Coco Bryce]

Got a pal who’s a teacher, and apparently local schools here are preparing ‘online classrooms’ extensively, expecting an announcement in the not too distant future.

My son is 13 in 1st year. The last couple of days they have been getting prepped in the use of Google Classroom to allow them to work from home.

[Ronniekirk]

Ok, so we don’t yet think we have thousands of infected people roaming at large.

But is it just me, or is it quite a big ask to be giving the task of sifting through a crowd and (probably) having multiple conversations at close quarters with folk who are coughing to a football steward who is probably on a minimum wage?

If they have concerns, the game shouldn’t go ahead. This smacks of someone wanting to look like they’re doing something useful, doing anything but and potentially chucking vulnerable folk onto the front line.

Think your right re club saying they took measures but wasn’t sure why they have done this if not been told by SFA or givernent


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[Rocky]

On a side note, this coronavirus is the ideal time for companies and governments to see how working at home enmasse can work (or not), the demand for internet etc will be enormous and will systems cope.
IMO this wont be the last time a virus or disease will befall us.

Working from home doesn't use a lot of bandwidth. Unless of course you mean streaming Netflix while "working from home"

[Jay]

My son is 13 in 1st year. The last couple of days they have been getting prepped in the use of Google Classroom to allow them to work from home.

The timing is so bad with exams coming up . My youngest is doing his adv highers and uni depends on the results. Thankfully they are really just in the revision phase of the year but they still could do with the support.

[Hibbyradge]

:agree:

It's very tiresome.

I'll remember you said that! :greengrin

[DH1875]

The timing is so bad with exams coming up . My youngest is doing his adv highers and uni depends on the results. Thankfully they are really just in the revision phase of the year but they still could do with the support.

My daughter is in 4th year. Her exams mainly start in May but got couple before then.

They've already started closing schools in East Dumbartonshire.

[Pretty Boy]

I was supposed to be running the Highland Fling ultra marathon in late April and that has been cancelled as of tonight. Part of the reason is preemptive in anticipation of the government banning large events, much of the entry fees has not been spent yet so a decent percentage can be refunded if they take the decision early. The 2nd reason is that the insurance for the event requires extensive medical cover and they are aware the doctors etc could be required elsewhere depending on how things play out.

It's a frustrating situation as myself, and hundred of others, have put in tens of hours of training covering hundred of miles and it all seems a bit pointless now. Ultimately though this is an event organised for runners by runners so it is not a decision that had been taken lightly. You simply have to respect the decision and accept it as the correct one.

[Danderhall Hibs]

My daughter is in 4th year. Her exams mainly start in May but got couple before then.

They've already started closing schools in East Dumbartonshire.

Have they? They’ve gone early. No doubt pressure from the teachers who want extra days off.

[Pretty Boy]

Daniele Rugani of Juventus has tested positive.

[Andy74]

Daniele Rugani of Juventus has tested positive.

There seems to be an oddly high number of people linked with football - I know they get reported more than other professions but the number of infected across the globe are still pretty low but we have had quite a few football players and managers.

[04Sauzee]

Glasgow derby has to be in doubt now, should find out tomorrow

[BegbieHSC]

Have they? They’ve gone early. No doubt pressure from the teachers who want extra days off.

I don’t think it’s because teachers want a few extra days off tbh...

[bawheid]

There seems to be an oddly high number of people linked with football - I know they get reported more than other professions but the number of infected across the globe are still pretty low but we have had quite a few football players and managers.

Is it possible elite footballers are being tested more than the general population? There’s a fair chance a chunk of the UK population has it and just hasn’t been tested. Symptoms can be mild or even non-existent.

[DH1875]

Daniele Rugani of Juventus has tested positive.

Did he play at the weekend? Wonder where that leaves Inter. Maybe Getafe got wind and that's why their refusing to travel.

[Chorley Hibee]

Is it possible elite footballers are being tested more than the general population? There’s a fair chance a chunk of the UK population has it and just hasn’t been tested. Symptoms can be mild or even non-existent.

You're only being tested in the UK if you've been in contact with a known Coronavirus case, or you've returned from abroad.

Many people displaying the symptoms are being told to self isolate and aren't even offered a test.

Makes a mockery of the official figures.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I don’t think it’s because teachers want a few extra days off tbh...

Well they’ve gone really early then. Did someone at the school(s) closing test positive?

Seems to be against government guidance. Teacher/union pressure is my guess.

[RossScott1991]

Wonder what chances of our semi going ahead (without a crowd or at all) are going to be in a few weems

[McHibby]

I don’t think it’s because teachers want a few extra days off tbh...


My husband is a teacher and it's a bit of a nightmare for him even when the kids are away on a school trip (never mind a complete shutdown). Simply because they have so much to get through each term, that it is planned down to the hour.

I have, however, suggested to him they might want to consider going on strike a bit less often to free up some time... you can imagine how that went down 🤣

[Hermit Crab]

Wonder what chances of our semi going ahead (without a crowd or at all) are going to be in a few weems


It will be behind closed doors if at all. Because of the Euros the season can't be extended either.

[HibeeHibernian4]

It will be behind closed doors if at all. Because of the Euros the season can't be extended either.

They might postpone the Euros though HC?

[Hermit Crab]

They might postpone the Euros though HC?


They could do unless they get this virus under control too it won't just be football thats cancelled.

[Iggy Pope]

They could do unless they get this virus under control too it won't just be football thats cancelled.

Could this virus be carried within ***** on the internet?

[Hibeesmad]

Breaking News that all English football games to be played behind closed doors.

[Hibeesmad]

The semi final looking very much in doubt for fans.

[660]

Breaking News that all English football games to be played behind closed doors.

Where are you seeing this?!

[Ozyhibby]

Juve player tested positive. He played at the weekend for them so the whole team will need to isolated themselves. Uefa are going to have to cancel the champions league.


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[Hibeesmad]

Where are you seeing this?!

The Times are reporting it, saw it on twitter. Will try and get a link. Other sources will probably announce more tomorrow.

[Callum7]

The Times are reporting it, saw it on twitter. Will try and get a link. Other sources will probably announce more tomorrow.


https://mobile.twitter.com/dboetan7i/status/1237893214268297216?s=21

[660]

The Times are reporting it, saw it on twitter. Will try and get a link. Other sources will probably announce more tomorrow.

From looking into this, times reported that government have plans that include playing football games behind closed doors but these plans haven’t been triggered yet.

Then some daft betting account amended this to BREAKING English games to be played behind closed doors. So in other words it’s total bollocks.

[The 90+2]

:agree:

It's very tiresome.

Shut up 😉

[Hibeesmad]

From looking into this, times reported that government have plans that include playing football games behind closed doors but these plans haven’t been triggered yet.

Then some daft betting account amended this to BREAKING English games to be played behind closed doors. So in other words it’s total bollocks.

Yeah maybe I've jumped the gun but wouldn't be surprised if it was to happen in the near future.

[Haymaker]

Utah Jazz player tested positive. NBA season suspended.

[CloudSquall]

https://twitter.com/NewCuIture/status/1237917151916371970

"Just a couple of days ago Rudy Gobert touched all the mics at his press conference as a joke. He now has the coronavirus and the NBA Season is suspended"


Awkward..

[theonlywayisup]

If you read one website article today, read this one. The article ends "This is probably the one time in the last decade that sharing an article might save lives. They need to understand this to avert a catastrophe. The moment to act is now."

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

The article compares the growth of cases in the area of China that it all started, Wuhan, with the countries with the highest number of cases such as South Korea, Italy and Iran, and then with the rest. It predicts what could happen in some of these countries depending on the what course of action that they implement.

I've not read all the words, but the graphs are extremely useful for those people who like facts and figures and don't like listening to peoples beliefs and opinions.

[Greenworld]

I said yesterday that game Hearts had v st Mirren should be played as if were there last .
If our league is suspended Celtic will be crowned champions and hearts will be relegated .
It looks like this season 6th is about best we can do .
Horrible as it would be to end the season you've got to think it a high possibility

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[lugz]

There is no chance they relegate hearts without the season being completely finished. They're much more likely to have no promotion and keep united in the championship

[Greenworld]

There is no chance they relegate hearts without the season being completely finished. They're much more likely to have no promotion and keep united in the championshipIt has been discussed and is one of the options . I'll try and find the article confiming

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[Ozyhibby]

There is no chance they relegate hearts without the season being completely finished. They're much more likely to have no promotion and keep united in the championship

No way they can do that. Utd would have them in court by the morning.


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[lugz]

No way they can do that. Utd would have them in court by the morning.


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Would hearts not just do the exact same? Unless theres an official ruling that after so many games the season counts.

[Sir David Gray]

I don't see how they can have promotion and relegation without the season being completed.

[Hibernian Verse]

This would be a good opportunity to move to two 16 team top tiers.

[Greenworld]

I don't see how they can have promotion and relegation without the season being completed.I cannot see how any other option other that current leugue positions apply.
Not to do so would mean no European cup football next year .
Its a mess but the most logical solution

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[Del Boy]

I don't see how they can have promotion and relegation without the season being completed.

In that case they could not make Liverpool or Celtic champions, those clubs won’t accept that!

[green&left]

If events over 1000 attendees are banned or to be behind closed doors, could/would Hibs ballot 999 season ticket holders so they could go?

[04Sauzee]

This would be a good opportunity to move to two 16 team top tiers.

How would it work though, how many games per season?, remember clubs are announcing season ticket prices. I doubt we will see league restructure at this time?

[Steven79]

If events over 1000 attendees are banned or to be behind closed doors, could/would Hibs ballot 999 season ticket holders so they could go?First come first served...

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[green day]

There is no chance they relegate hearts without the season being completely finished. They're much more likely to have no promotion and keep united in the championship

Remember, we keep hearing that the SPFL is the clubs.

I imagine that in an exceptional situation (i.e. like the one we have now) not covered by existing rules, that the SPFL board would not be willing to make the decision themselves and may defer to the clubs.

If that happens, Hearts could be toast.

I think the top teams in each div will be declared champs, bottom teams relegated, no playoffs and no relegation from the bottom division to the seaside leagues.

I will take your thanks in advance for this sensible outcome to what is a difficult situation.

[GreenCastle]

If events over 1000 attendees are banned or to be behind closed doors, could/would Hibs ballot 999 season ticket holders so they could go?

Not the worst idea. Main stand only open ?

Just invite singing section ;)

[Since452]

If events over 1000 attendees are banned or to be behind closed doors, could/would Hibs ballot 999 season ticket holders so they could go?

Would only benefit Hamilton 😉

[Waxy]

If go with scrapping the split. Dundee utd up bottom team down. Second bottom prem v second championship one match playoff neutral venue. Get the season done asap.

[Captain Trips]

Again from the context of football I just do not see how it is possible to have a leage finish early and either not do anything or have relegation promotion. The aftermath is the issue and for gods sake please nobody think the virus is not the big factor but their are human beings involved here with lots of money to win or lose and that for them will be a major player. I am hearing people concerned about holidays booked before the actual fact there is a virus about thats dangerous is secondary to a lot of peoples own lives and disruptions. You can like that or not.

Suspend the season if needed. Try and keep the behind closed door games to a minimum and resume once there is clarity on it.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Not the worst idea. Main stand only open ?

Just invite singing section ;)

They wouldn’t want to sit there.

[HibeeHibernian4]

If events over 1000 attendees are banned or to be behind closed doors, could/would Hibs ballot 999 season ticket holders so they could go?

Loyalty points being brought back I heard. :greengrin

[Captain Trips]

What will i do about money? What if i cant get child care? What if I cant go on my holiday i booked? Will i get paid? Its not possible in my job to work from home? I honestly believe these are the things on a lot of peoples minds before even thinking about catching a disease that in certain circumstances could be deadly. You can certainly say I am generalizing but i work in a factory with a very mixed age in workforce and although our employer is very good regrading sick pay etc all I have heard is "Im meant to going on a cruise" I was meant to go to Rome" various conversations of this ilk leading me to believe this is seen as more of an inconvenience than deadly by quite a few folk. There is this I wont catch that attitude, it wont happen to me.

[Onceinawhile]

What will i do about money? What if i cant get child care? What if I cant go on my holiday i booked? Will i get paid? Its not possible in my job to work from home? I honestly believe these are the things on a lot of peoples minds before even thinking about catching a disease that in certain circumstances could be deadly. You can certainly say I am generalizing but i work in a factory with a very mixed age in workforce and although our employer is very good regrading sick pay etc all I have heard is "Im meant to going on a cruise" I was meant to go to Rome" various conversations of this ilk leading me to believe this is seen as more of an inconvenience than deadly by quite a few folk. There is this I wont catch that attitude, it wont happen to me.

Probably because the mortality rate is around 1%.

Now obviously that is 1% too high, but most people are pretty confident of beating it and are likely to be thinking of themselves first and foremost rather than the damage they can do in passing the virus on.

[Speedy]

Not the worst idea. Main stand only open ?

Just invite singing section ;)

Better with the crowd split across the 4 stands

[danhibees1875]

What will i do about money? What if i cant get child care? What if I cant go on my holiday i booked? Will i get paid? Its not possible in my job to work from home? I honestly believe these are the things on a lot of peoples minds before even thinking about catching a disease that in certain circumstances could be deadly. You can certainly say I am generalizing but i work in a factory with a very mixed age in workforce and although our employer is very good regrading sick pay etc all I have heard is "Im meant to going on a cruise" I was meant to go to Rome" various conversations of this ilk leading me to believe this is seen as more of an inconvenience than deadly by quite a few folk. There is this I wont catch that attitude, it wont happen to me.

No-one wants to catch it, either for their own safety or for the safety of others who they could pass it on to. Everyone is in the same boat on that front, so it goes largely unspoken.

Holidays are a regular conversation in the workplace and so the potential lack of them becomes a conversation. Otherwise everyone would always just talk about how they hope they don't get ill every day which would be boring. :dunno:

[DH1875]

They will be waiting to see what happens in the old firm game. If celtic win they'll hand them the league. Big problem is IF the rangers win as cuts it to 10 points. They'll argue they got game in hand, cuts it to 7 points. Due another old firm game, cuts it to 4 points. They don't want celtic getting 9 in a row so play hard ball and get the season cancelled all together. It's one way of stopping it lol.

[flash]

Probably because the mortality rate is around 1%.

Now obviously that is 1% too high, but most people are pretty confident of beating it and are likely to be thinking of themselves first and foremost rather than the damage they can do in passing the virus on.
Mortality rate is significantly higher in countries like Italy who were slow in shutting down.
Sadly we seem to be following their example.

[Pretty Boy]

What will i do about money? What if i cant get child care? What if I cant go on my holiday i booked? Will i get paid? Its not possible in my job to work from home? I honestly believe these are the things on a lot of peoples minds before even thinking about catching a disease that in certain circumstances could be deadly. You can certainly say I am generalizing but i work in a factory with a very mixed age in workforce and although our employer is very good regrading sick pay etc all I have heard is "Im meant to going on a cruise" I was meant to go to Rome" various conversations of this ilk leading me to believe this is seen as more of an inconvenience than deadly by quite a few folk. There is this I wont catch that attitude, it wont happen to me.

I think it's entirely natural that people have a range of concerns regarding the situation.

Health is obviously one part of it but my household lives on a fairly tight budget. If nurseries are closed myself and my fiance would likely have to cut our working hours to look after our daughter. Further down the line if workplaces close and there is no ability to work from home, that's the case for my fiance, then rent/mortgages still need paid, the council still want their tax, you still need heat and light, you still need to eat etc etc.

We are potentially about to enter unchartered territory and we have a government hardly renowned for their compassion and empathy. It's perfectly understandable that the financial implications are weighing as heavily on people's minds as the health ones.

[Captain Trips]

No-one wants to catch it, either for their own safety or for the safety of others who they could pass it on to. Everyone is in the same boat on that front, so it goes largely unspoken.

Holidays are a regular conversation in the workplace and so the potential lack of them becomes a conversation. Otherwise everyone would always just talk about how they hope they don't get ill every day which would be boring. :dunno:

I am aware of that but I am just saying i think a lot of people will find this all just inconvenient than anything else. Maybe its im alright Jack but I am probably in that camp.

[Captain Trips]

I think it's entirely natural that people have a range of concerns regarding the situation.

Health is obviously one part of it but my household lives on a fairly tight budget. If nurseries are closed myself and my fiance would likely have to cut our working hours to look after our daughter. Further down the line if workplaces close and there is no ability to work from home, that's the case for my fiance, then rent/mortgages still need paid, the council still want their tax, you still need heat and light, you still need to eat etc etc.

We are potentially about to enter unchartered territory and we have a government hardly renowned for their compassion and empathy. It's perfectly understandable that the financial implications are weighing as heavily on people's minds as the health ones.

I think the issue being we would never know what would happen if we take one course of action. If we go into lockdown causing a lot of stress for millions I bet after it millions will say that was a waste of time then. It is very difficult to manage and each one of us has our own lives to lead.

My attitude is I am going to live my life. we have been down to London a lot for holidays over the years and my wife was worried after some of the terror attacks about underground etc, I told her that i intend going about my business and enjoying my time and if something happens to me so be it but i am not changing my life or my holiday enjoyment. This though is a bit different as me going about my holiday doesn't affect anyone, me going about my business if I have a virus does so on that I respect others rights so I would definitely have to suck it up and change things.

[jakedance]

If you read one website article today, read this one. The article ends "This is probably the one time in the last decade that sharing an article might save lives. They need to understand this to avert a catastrophe. The moment to act is now."

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

The article compares the growth of cases in the area of China that it all started, Wuhan, with the countries with the highest number of cases such as South Korea, Italy and Iran, and then with the rest. It predicts what could happen in some of these countries depending on the what course of action that they implement.

I've not read all the words, but the graphs are extremely useful for those people who like facts and figures and don't like listening to peoples beliefs and opinions.

Good read. Thanks for posting.

[Ozyhibby]

https://news.stv.tv/politics/coronavirus-sturgeon-raises-questions-over-mass-gatherings?top&amp&top=&__twitter_impression=true
Sturgeon hinting heavily that football needs stopped.


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[FilipinoHibs]

Probably because the mortality rate is around 1%.

Now obviously that is 1% too high, but most people are pretty confident of beating it and are likely to be thinking of themselves first and foremost rather than the damage they can do in passing the virus on.

4% globally and 7% in Italy

[Onceinawhile]

4% globally and 7% in Italy

As high as that? Didn't realise that.

Well anyway, the %s wasn't really my point, more the way people are likely to be reacting to it.

[danhibees1875]

I am aware of that but I am just saying i think a lot of people will find this all just inconvenient than anything else. Maybe its im alright Jack but I am probably in that camp.

I think you're being too harsh on people when you assume their stance here.

Most people probably will end up being more inconvenienced or with concerns around money than be effected by any deaths.

[Captain Trips]

I think you're being too harsh on people when you assume their stance here.

Most people probably will end up being more inconvenienced or with concerns around money than be effected by any deaths.

When i say inconvenient I was meaning to include money etc, what i mean is most other non health concerns will take a priority for the many ie the whole thing was inconvienient or a pain in the arse etc.

[Jay]

I think we need to take a lot of responsibility for the spread ourseves and be sensible regardless of the governments decisions. Just because the games on doesnt mean you have to go.

If you have any form of temp, cough or sniffles just stay away. Protect others by your absence .

If.your vulnerable or live with someone vulnerable stay away. Even if your not sure if your on the vulnerable.list just be sensible for a while.

Being bull headed and carrying on regardless is what will cause the spread.

[Keith_M]

I think we need to take a lot of responsibility for the spread ourseves and be sensible regardless of the governments decisions. Just because the games on doesnt mean you have to go.

If you have any form of temp, cough or sniffles just stay away. Protect others by your absence .

If.your vulnerable or live with someone vulnerable stay away. Even if your not sure if your on the vulnerable.list just be sensible for a while.

Being bull headed and carrying on regardless is what will cause the spread.


Sounds sensible.

I think anybody in the vulnerable groups should think carefully about whether they should attend as well.

[Smartie]

Will it not be in the league’s rules?

It doesn’t happen often, but wars break out and pandemics happen etc

If the SPFL don’t have anything in then they should. The majority of the times it’s one of those rules you look at and laugh at but you just never know. Whenever you take out an insurance policy you find yourself talking about stuff that is comically unlikely but these things happen to someone.

Our authorities aren’t necessarily known for having clear rules before a ball is kicked, allowing them to make it up as they go along, particularly if that can favour particular clubs.

[Betty Boop]

Danish football shut down for a fortnight.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

4% globally and 7% in Italy

Also, there are different offshoot strains that have developed in the US with longer incubation periods.

[FilipinoHibs]

Sounds sensible.

I think anybody in the vulnerable groups should think carefully about whether they should attend as well.

You can carry the virus without showing any symptoms. Pass to another young person who is in contact with older people.

The government will soon take that decision away from us

[Keith_M]

You can carry the virus without showing any symptoms. Pass to another young person who is in contact with older people.

The government will soon take that decision away from us



But surely the logical conclusion to that argument is that nobody should be allowed to interact with anybody else.

When you think about it, the consequences of that are probably just as serious a threat to the population...starvation being the first thing that springs to mind.

[Pretty Boy]

I think we need to take a lot of responsibility for the spread ourseves and be sensible regardless of the governments decisions. Just because the games on doesnt mean you have to go.

If you have any form of temp, cough or sniffles just stay away. Protect others by your absence .

If.your vulnerable or live with someone vulnerable stay away. Even if your not sure if your on the vulnerable.list just be sensible for a while.

Being bull headed and carrying on regardless is what will cause the spread.

I think this is good advice.

A disease like SARS was deadly but, as a virus, it wasn't very good. By that I mean it had a short incubation period and made people very ill, very quickly. That led to quick isolation and hospitalisation and in a lot of cases death. A 'good' virus doesn't really want to kill you or even make you too ill because you are no use to it at that point.

That's why this virus is so much more successful, again in virus terms, than something like SARS. It transmits almost as readily as flu, has a potentially long incubation period, can be spread whilst the host is asymptomatic and, most crucially, doesn't make the vast majority of people very ill. Thus they struggle on in the way they would do with a heavy cold and potentially spread the virus around. Inevitably that spread is then going to hit the vulnerable.

It's really not a lot to ask for people with a temperature, sore throat, cough or whatever just to give a football match, night at the pub, trip to the cinema a miss for a couple of weeks to protect the wider population. Obviously that contradicts what I said to an extent about asymptomatic transmission but there is evidence that suggests people are more infectious while showing symptoms.

[Smartie]

I’m probably more concerned about my household’s potential to be “superspreaders”.

We live in Leith, Scotland’s most densely populated area and I use public transport several times daily. My work is a small place, we come into contact with dozens of people daily in an intimate (if largely sterile) environment that could potentially pass the virus on to lots of people very quickly and potentially to some very vulnerable people.

My partner takes those wee tots’ classes where they sing and dance and use various props, with plenty of toddler slobbering.

My daughter is a slobbering toddler.

Going to the game itself probably isn’t all that high risk, I tend to go in my own and sit away from folk unless it’s a big game. The bogs and the pub would be the breeding ground imo, to be avoided.

It would probably make sense for me to sit this one out, as the consequences of me getting it could extend beyond me having a mild illness and an uncomfortable few weeks.

[Ozyhibby]

Will it not be in the league’s rules?

It doesn’t happen often, but wars break out and pandemics happen etc

If the SPFL don’t have anything in then they should. The majority of the times it’s one of those rules you look at and laugh at but you just never know. Whenever you take out an insurance policy you find yourself talking about stuff that is comically unlikely but these things happen to someone.

Our authorities aren’t necessarily known for having clear rules before a ball is kicked, allowing them to make it up as they go along, particularly if that can favour particular clubs.

Lord Nimmo Smith would hold an enquiry and declare Sevco champions.


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[Smartie]

But surely the logical conclusion to that argument is that nobody should be allowed to interact with anybody else.

When you think about it, the consequences of that are probably just as serious a threat to the population...starvation being the first thing that springs to mind.

If you think of the sheer number of people most of encounter on a daily basis and consider the concept of “exponential growth”.

If we cut down the people we see, we cut down the people we can give it to, we cut down the people they can pass it in to - it all plateaus at a manageable level eventually, and sooner if the virus is allowed to run amok, unchecked.

Every little bit really helps here.

[Scouse Hibee]

Wonder if Hibs have any plans for sanitizers etc, at the ground on Saturday

They need to concentrate on providing soap first!

[JXM73]

I'm alright Jack, however if i were to pass on to my wife she's in trouble as an asthmatic and her punters she cares for will be wiped out - all over 70 and dementia sufferers... so if you see a large spike in glasgow...sorry in advance..

There must be loads in similar scenarios across the country

[Hibbyradge]

There is no chance they relegate hearts without the season being completely finished. They're much more likely to have no promotion and keep united in the championship

Why?

[660]

Why?

Yeah I don't understand why the season would be annulled. I'd rather miss out on a few games than render 30 odd games utterly pointless.

[Hibbyradge]

If events over 1000 attendees are banned or to be behind closed doors, could/would Hibs ballot 999 season ticket holders so they could go?

The people who would want to go despite the measures to combat the virus would be exactly the people I'd want to avoid.

[DH1875]

La Liga suspended. Real Madrid players to self isolate. Probably knocks there game against city on the head too.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

If this is true then if things catch on here we’re more stuffed than Italy ...

https://sluggerotoole.com/2020/03/04/northern-ireland-scotland-and-wales-rank-amongst-the-lowest-countries-in-the-developed-world-for-the-number-of-intensive-care-beds/

[Hibbyradge]

I think we need to take a lot of responsibility for the spread ourseves and be sensible regardless of the governments decisions. Just because the games on doesnt mean you have to go.

If you have any form of temp, cough or sniffles just stay away. Protect others by your absence .

If.your vulnerable or live with someone vulnerable stay away. Even if your not sure if your on the vulnerable.list just be sensible for a while.

Being bull headed and carrying on regardless is what will cause the spread.

Exactly right.

I'm supposed to be travelling to Edinburgh tomorrow to stay with a mate and go to the game on Saturday. I was already considering whether that was a good idea, but I've now learned that he's in bed with a flu-like illness although he doesn't have the Coronavirus symptoms as such.

Decision made. I'm staying home.

[DH1875]

Would imagine the now Real have it the footballing authorities will have to act.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Will it not be in the league’s rules?

It doesn’t happen often, but wars break out and pandemics happen etc

If the SPFL don’t have anything in then they should. The majority of the times it’s one of those rules you look at and laugh at but you just never know. Whenever you take out an insurance policy you find yourself talking about stuff that is comically unlikely but these things happen to someone.

Our authorities aren’t necessarily known for having clear rules before a ball is kicked, allowing them to make it up as they go along, particularly if that can favour particular clubs.

SPFL Rules G53 to G55 will apply subject to force majeur. Ultimately the SPFL Board will exercise is right to make it up as they go along

[Hibeesmad]

Sturgeon has said that mass gatherings of 500 plus will be banned from next week.

[JXM73]

Sturgeon has said that mass gatherings of 500 plus will be banned from next week.

Hamilton will be unaffected then...

[04Sauzee]

Sturgeon has said that mass gatherings of 500 plus will be banned from next week.

Advised? or actually banned?

[BroxburnHibee]

Sturgeon has said that mass gatherings of 500 plus will be banned from next week.

Next week eh?

I wonder why they're waiting....

[JeMeSouviens]

Advised? or actually banned?

Not clear yet - quote from NS:


“If you take mass gatherings, football matches for example, they need to be policed, they need to have emergency ambulance cover. We’re going into a period where our emergency services in our NHS in particular will be under significant challenge and pressure.


“We may see all of our workforces affected by high absentee rates because of sickness so there’s a wider issue here about whether cancelling those events is the right thing to do is the right thing to do to reduce pressure on our frontline emergency workers.

“These kind of decisions, although we are collaborating and seeking to make decisions on a four nations UK-wide basis, these decisions will be down to me and the Scottish Government in Scotland, as they will be to other governments in different parts of the UK.

“From a wider resilience point of view, I think there is a big question mark over whether large scale events like that, whether it’s sensible to allow them to proceed at the moment.”

[Carheenlea]

Next week eh?

I wonder why they're waiting....

The largest gathering with 50,000 folk is taking place this weekend. Why decide to ban gatherings above 500 next week but let a gathering of this size take place in a few days time? The weekend will see a lot of gatherings of multiple thousands of people so why wait? If this is to be sensible policy to assist with the avoidance of spreading Covid 19 then it surely needs to be from immediate effect.

[GloryGlory]

Next week eh?

I wonder why they're waiting....

I would imagine the advice from the CMO and CSA is being taken. That's why what Sturgeon said is "advice" at the moment, as we are still in the containment phase. She also said that she expects to move to delay within the next few days, so at that point "advice" will become "orders".

She pointed out that large gatherings have to have police and ambulance cover, and that the emergency services will be needed to deal with the effects of Covid-19 epidemic. TBF, a sporting or other leisure event is hardly necessary in the grand scheme of things.

[Hibeesmad]

All players from an unnamed premier league team have been tested after three first team players showed symptoms, results expected tomorrow.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

If events over 1000 attendees are banned or to be behind closed doors, could/would Hibs ballot 999 season ticket holders so they could go?

Imagine if HC's name never came out! 😯

[Del Boy]

All players from an unnamed premier league team have been tested after three first team players showed symptoms, results expected tomorrow.

Scottish premier?

[flash]

All players from an unnamed premier league team have been tested after three first team players showed symptoms, results expected tomorrow.

English?

[Golden Bear]

Sturgeon has said that mass gatherings of 500 plus will be banned from next week.

So 499 will be ok but 501 will not be.?

:rolleyes:

[Lago]

https://news.stv.tv/politics/coronavirus-sturgeon-raises-questions-over-mass-gatherings?top&amp&top=&__twitter_impression=true
Sturgeon hinting heavily that football needs stopped.


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Must be on the cards, my daughter works at Fife College & there is a meeting planned for Thia afternoon, outcome likely to be closure of all campuses for 2 weeks & through Easter holidays. Staff will work from home if possible.

[SquashedFrogg]

So 499 will be ok but 501 will not be.?

:rolleyes:

Clearly not. Any figure would be an approximate guide.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Will it not be in the league’s rules?

It doesn’t happen often, but wars break out and pandemics happen etc

If the SPFL don’t have anything in then they should. The majority of the times it’s one of those rules you look at and laugh at but you just never know. Whenever you take out an insurance policy you find yourself talking about stuff that is comically unlikely but these things happen to someone.

Our authorities aren’t necessarily known for having clear rules before a ball is kicked, allowing them to make it up as they go along, particularly if that can favour particular clubs.

SPFL Rules G53 to G55 will apply subject to force majeur. Ultimately the SPFL Board will exercise is right to make it up as they go along

[pacoluna]

All players from an unnamed premier league team have been tested after three first team players showed symptoms, results expected tomorrow.

Arsenal - olympiakos owner had the virus and shook hands with them.

[Since452]

I love Hibs as next as the next fan but surely staying away from the football is just common sense regardless if it's behind closed doors or not

[silverhibee]

Next week eh?

I wonder why they're waiting....

Because, Jim Traynor said so. :greengrin

[Coco Bryce]

Next week eh?

I wonder why they're waiting....

So it doesn't affect this weekends New Firm game :confused:

[matty_f]

So it doesn't affect this weekends New Firm game :confused:

They're not going to base the decision on the Old Firm game.


I read earlier that at the moment, due to the levels of the virus that the economic impact outweighed the benefit of shutting major events down.

As the virus spreads, there's more tangible benefit to shutting events and so it's worth taking the hit.

That was the explanation, not my views.

[Greenbeard]

So if we are facing a potential shut-down for several weeks with no space in the calendar to re-arrange all the scheduled league fixtures, what is the likely solution?
Conclude the season at 33 fixtures?
Reduce the post-split fixtures to four threes? Or three fours which uses the same number of fixture dates as four threes?

[Smartie]

They're not going to base the decision on the Old Firm game.


I read earlier that at the moment, due to the levels of the virus that the economic impact outweighed the benefit of shutting major events down.

As the virus spreads, there's more tangible benefit to shutting events and so it's worth taking the hit.

That was the explanation, not my views.

It is probably the sensible, appropriate and accepted approach at this stage, which would be of little comfort to you if you or a loved one were to die as a result.

[Tambo]

So we're definitely going ahead Saturday?

[Sir David Gray]

In that case they could not make Liverpool or Celtic champions, those clubs won’t accept that!

Neither will clubs accept being relegated before the season finishing.

[matty_f]

It is probably the sensible, appropriate and accepted approach at this stage, which would be of little comfort to you if you or a loved one were to die as a result.

Exactly. I think it's a hard balance between assessing the risk and trying to live a normal life, and taking really sensible and careful precautions to avoid catching and spreading the virus.

I think I'll go to Easter Road on Saturday, I'll be driving to the game and due to where I park and where I sit in the stand, I can probably avoid being in close proximity to too many people, so my odds of not being infected are very good, I would say.

[Hibernian Verse]

Has anyone played the ios/android game Plague Inc? I played it a number of times thinking how it was impossible it could ever happen in my lifetime. Pretty stark reminder that you never know what's round the corner!

Anyway, let's get right behind the boys on Saturday!! Turn up if you can.

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[Vault Boy]

Hibs taking precautions. (https://twitter.com/alanftemple/status/1238091198243495936?s=19)

[EAZY-ME]

We are in the early stages the worst is still to come and will hit within the next fortnight according to the scottish government..... whoever's created this bio weapon certainly did a good job

[Logie Green]

Next week eh?

I wonder why they're waiting....

I suspect the vast majority going to the game at Ibrox on Sunday would object to it being referred to as a mass gathering.

[Steven79]

I suspect the vast majority going to the game at Ibrox on Sunday would object to it being referred to as a mass gathering.[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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[Renfrew_Hibby]

Nevermind 50,000 gathering at Ibrox, the pubs and clubs of the west of Scotland will be rammed on Sunday.

Crazy, aye let's do it on the Monday after half the country could be infected.

Supporting your team till the end will now be replaced by literally dying for the cause.

[lapsedhibee]

I suspect the vast majority going to the game at Ibrox on Sunday would object to it being referred to as a mass gathering.

:greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

It is probably the sensible, appropriate and accepted approach at this stage, which would be of little comfort to you if you or a loved one were to die as a result.

I really don't envy those making these decisions at the moment. Balancing the needs of those who are self employed, part of the gig economy, small business owners against the health of vulnerable groups and the wider population. If someone dies as a result of your decisions you are culpable. If someone loses their home or livelihood you are also culpable.

Ultimately there is no decision that is correct for everybody and whatever happens someone loses out.

[Moulin Yarns]

4% globally and 7% in Italy

Also I see there has been a 94% recovery rate

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

[Moulin Yarns]

They need to concentrate on providing soap first!

I don't get the obsession about anti-bacterial hand sanitisers, which have no effect against a virus. Soap and water is the best solution.

[Jim44]

Neither will clubs accept being relegated before the season finishing.

In my opinion, all games might soon be cancelled and the season rapped up completely. In this scenario, I think they would simply declare the season void with apologies to the teams presently leading their respective leagues. Like the guy who started a thread about the Jambos escaping relegation, I agree with him, but for different reasons. I assume he thinks they will survive because of luckily scraping points but I think they will survive by default and national emergency circumstances.

[Pretty Boy]

I don't get the obsession about anti-bacterial hand sanitisers, which have no effect against a virus. Soap and water is the best solution.

60% alcohol hand sanitisers work against this virus because of it's structure. They don't work against some other viruses, Noravirus as an example.

[Keith_M]

If you think of the sheer number of people most of encounter on a daily basis and consider the concept of “exponential growth”.

If we cut down the people we see, we cut down the people we can give it to, we cut down the people they can pass it in to - it all plateaus at a manageable level eventually, and sooner if the virus is allowed to run amok, unchecked.

Every little bit really helps here.


Fair enough, if it reduces the risk

[lapsedhibee]

In my opinion, all games might soon be cancelled and the season rapped up completely. In this scenario, I think they would simply declare the season void with apologies to the teams presently leading their respective leagues.

Celtc would have to start again, from scratch, with their attempt at 10 in a row, and for this reason alone voiding is the most likely option. Likely and wrong.

[Jim44]

60% alcohol hand sanitisers work against this virus because of it's structure. They don't work against some other viruses, Noravirus as an example.

Is that right? I was on a cruise several years ago when there was a mild outbreak of Noravirus and you couldn’t move without sanitising your hands. Was all that effectively a waste of time?

[dalkeith stu]

Should just make all games cancelled declared a 0-0 draw. Only fair solution!!!

[Del Boy]

Should just make all games cancelled declared a 0-0 draw. Only fair solution!!!

I think that is the fairest way to do it

[Moulin Yarns]

60% alcohol hand sanitisers work against this virus because of it's structure. They don't work against some other viruses, Noravirus as an example.

Not disagreeing, but everyone will have soap in their house, but not everyone will have hand sanitiser gel.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1237797826471563266


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/12/science-soap-kills-coronavirus-alcohol-based-disinfectants

[Jones28]

Leicester are the PL team apparently.

[Greenworld]

In my opinion, all games might soon be cancelled and the season rapped up completely. In this scenario, I think they would simply declare the season void with apologies to the teams presently leading their respective leagues. Like the guy who started a thread about the Jambos escaping relegation, I agree with him, but for different reasons. I assume he thinks they will survive because of luckily scraping points but I think they will survive by default and national emergency circumstances.I agree the leugue could finish up . However I think the current standings will be used.
Promotion and relegation will take place.
Teams in European positions will take part in the relevant competitions.
Options have been discussed with spfl / sfa and this is one of them . I don't think voiding the season is an option


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[Waxy]

In my opinion, all games might soon be cancelled and the season rapped up completely. In this scenario, I think they would simply declare the season void with apologies to the teams presently leading their respective leagues. Like the guy who started a thread about the Jambos escaping relegation, I agree with him, but for different reasons. I assume he thinks they will survive because of luckily scraping points but I think they will survive by default and national emergency circumstances.
No chance.Dundee utd wouldnt accept that.

[matty_f]

I agree the leugue could finish up . However I think the current standings will be used.
Promotion and relegation will take place.
Teams in European positions will take part in the relevant competitions.
Options have been discussed with spfl / sfa and this is one of them . I don't think voiding the season is an option


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I don't see how they could reasonably not use the current standings - it's the least unfair way of doing it (given that there's no fair way to do it).

If you look at Dundee United as an example - they've spent a load of money to get promotion, are comfortably going to win the league, and so the potential impact of them not being able to join the top flight is massively damaging.

For the relegated teams, well all you could say there is that all of the teams have played the same number of games now, so to take the current standings would be reasonable.

Celtic are way in front at the top of the league, and Hearts have a fair bit of daylight between them and second bottom.

The Scottish Cup would have to get scrapped, I think.

I'd say that it'll only take a player or member of staff from a club to be confirmed with the virus to put the brakes on everything.

Just now, playing behind closed doors is reasonable, but if teams weren't able to put a team out and matches were unable to be fulfilled, the sensible option would be to call it a day for this season, and then the clubs would have to work together to make sure they all survived until next season.

[lapsedhibee]

Dundee utd wouldnt accept that.

Who?
If the huns want it, that's what'll happen.

[660]

Play until the split, scrap the Scottish cup, done

[Jim44]

No chance.Dundee utd wouldnt accept that.

Under the circumstances, I think they would have no say in the matter. The seriousness of the crisis would dissipate any objections to a unilateral decision.

[Since452]

Play until the split, scrap the Scottish cup, done

I'd scrap the whole lot now. A player will probably get it between now and next weekend anyway meaning the game couldn't be played. Fans traveling around the country is only adding to the problem.

[Billy Whizz]

I don't get the obsession about anti-bacterial hand sanitisers, which have no effect against a virus. Soap and water is the best solution.

It is of course, but what do you do when you’re on the move, touching stuff and then getting back in your car etc

[The_Todd]

Not disagreeing, but everyone will have soap in their house, but not everyone will have hand sanitiser gel.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1237797826471563266


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/12/science-soap-kills-coronavirus-alcohol-based-disinfectants

People look at me funny when I take my bathroom sink on the tube at rush hour mind.

[CapitalGreen]

Could use the results from the corresponding games earlier in the season as a proxy. For example if the league was ended today, our next 3 fixtures would be recorded as:

2-2 v St Johnstone
1-1 @ Hamilton
1-1 v Celtic

[CapitalGreen]

It is of course, but what do you do when you’re on the move, touching stuff and then getting back in your car etc

Just avoid touching your mouth, nose and eyes and then wash your hands at the next available opportunity.

[SquashedFrogg]

People look at me funny when I take my bathroom sink on the tube at rush hour mind.

You're just obsessed with anti-bacterial handwash 😀

[Peevemor]

Just avoid touching your mouth, nose and eyes and then wash your hands at the next available opportunity.

Just thinking about it makes everything start to itch.

[Phil MaGlass]

Dutch season stopped until 31 march

[Smartie]

Play until the split, scrap the Scottish cup, done

Play until the split behind closed door, give the European place for the cup to next place in the league, start next season with the semis of the Scottish Cup, then the final.

[cabbageandribs1875]

three leicester city players have self-isolated as a precaution

[adhibs]

Play until the split behind closed door, give the European place for the cup to next place in the league, start next season with the semis of the Scottish Cup, then the final.

I like that idea of starting the season with the Scottish cup. The finals would still be played in different years so can't see why it wouldn't be possible.

Plus, don't fancy us winning it without the delay.

[MacGruber]

With the talk of postponement until April and places kept for Euro competitions - what will change in a short period of time. It will be a year min until a vaccine. Will next season be scrapped?

[The 90+2]

I agree the leugue could finish up . However I think the current standings will be used.
Promotion and relegation will take place.
Teams in European positions will take part in the relevant competitions.
Options have been discussed with spfl / sfa and this is one of them . I don't think voiding the season is an option


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I think it’s more to do with the amount of money bookies would lose and they are the main sponsors of most leagues. They’ve already paid out on Celtic/Liverpool imagine the money lost having to then pay out for Man City.

[The 90+2]

With the talk of postponement until April and places kept for Euro competitions - what will change in a short period of time. It will be a year min until a vaccine. Will next season be scrapped?

A year without football? You may as well shoot me now 😭😭

[Moulin Yarns]

With the talk of postponement until April and places kept for Euro competitions - what will change in a short period of time. It will be a year min until a vaccine. Will next season be scrapped?

Trials due to start next month.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/11/researchers-rush-to-start-moderna-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-without-usual-animal-testing/

[G B Young]

FM confirms cancellation of all mass gatherings of more than 500 people from next week:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-51800888?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5e6a580c3cfb2a06519c10d4%26Sturgeon%20 announces%20mass%20events%20ban%20from%20start%20o f%20next%20week%262020-03-12T15%3A42%3A58.568Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:7f97192a-6d0c-49ab-b19d-09eda01c9b9c&pinned_post_asset_id=5e6a580c3cfb2a06519c10d4&pinned_post_type=share

[Hibs90]

FM confirms cancellation of all mass gatherings of more than 500 people from next week:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-51800888?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5e6a580c3cfb2a06519c10d4%26Sturgeon%20 announces%20mass%20events%20ban%20from%20start%20o f%20next%20week%262020-03-12T15%3A42%3A58.568Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:7f97192a-6d0c-49ab-b19d-09eda01c9b9c&pinned_post_asset_id=5e6a580c3cfb2a06519c10d4&pinned_post_type=share

Ban them now.

Oh wait there's a game on Sunday. *****bags.

[lapsedhibee]

Ban them now.

Oh wait there's a game on Sunday. *****bags.

Huns win: Jabba: Stop league now and share title between huns and Celtc.
Huns lose: Jabba: Stop league now and void season.

[G B Young]

Uefa look set to call off Euro 2020 this summer:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51859548

Certainly a novel way for Scotland to miss out on yet another major tournament...

[JohnM1875]

City - Real game next Tuesday postponed as well. Hardly a shock.

[Pretty Boy]

Uefa look set to call off Euro 2020 this summer:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51859548

Certainly a novel way for Scotland to miss out on yet another major tournament...

If it's postponed for a year, as the article states is the discussion, then we wouldn't miss out.

Do you never bore yourself?

[The 90+2]

FM confirms cancellation of all mass gatherings of more than 500 people from next week:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-51800888?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5e6a580c3cfb2a06519c10d4%26Sturgeon%20 announces%20mass%20events%20ban%20from%20start%20o f%20next%20week%262020-03-12T15%3A42%3A58.568Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:7f97192a-6d0c-49ab-b19d-09eda01c9b9c&pinned_post_asset_id=5e6a580c3cfb2a06519c10d4&pinned_post_type=share

Beneficial to Hamilton then.

[The 90+2]

If it's postponed for a year, as the article states is the discussion, then we wouldn't miss out.

Do you never bore yourself?

It would also mean they could push back the Scottish cup for as long as possible, although players out of contract might be an issue.

[Lago]

FM confirms cancellation of all mass gatherings of more than 500 people from next week:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-51800888?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5e6a580c3cfb2a06519c10d4%26Sturgeon%20 announces%20mass%20events%20ban%20from%20start%20o f%20next%20week%262020-03-12T15%3A42%3A58.568Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:7f97192a-6d0c-49ab-b19d-09eda01c9b9c&pinned_post_asset_id=5e6a580c3cfb2a06519c10d4&pinned_post_type=share
Does that mean cup semi finals are in doubt?

[WhileTheChief..]

Our league season can be ended at any time by the SPFL board.

So I guess if they say this weekend is the last league games of the season, then that's all there is to it.

Simple really.

[G B Young]

Does that mean cup semi finals are in doubt?

Almost certainly. This has been on the cards for weeks.

[lapsedhibee]

Our league season can be ended at any time by the SPFL board.

So I guess if they say this weekend is the last league games of the season, then that's all there is to it.

Simple really.
One more game then. Will it be 4 points for a win to give the establishment team a fair chance? :hmmm:

[bingo70]

Our league season can be ended at any time by the SPFL board.

So I guess if they say this weekend is the last league games of the season, then that's all there is to it.

Simple really.

Is there anything in the rule book which stipulates what should happen in the event of a season ending unexpectedly early?

I think it’s the right time to look at league reconstruction, award Celtic the league, Dundee United and three others get promoted and there’s no relegation. It’s the closest we can get to keeping everyone happy.

There’s also been a need for a bigger league for a while.

[G B Young]

If it's postponed for a year, as the article states is the discussion, then we wouldn't miss out.

Do you never bore yourself?

We haven't even qualified yet! Not that we really deserve to via that back door Nations League nonsense.

Have to assume our play-off match will be called off this month anyway.

[plhibs]

Not football related but looks like all NHL games are going to be cancelled, all on ice officials have been told to return to their homes.

[James Stephen]

Is there anything in the rule book which stipulates what should happen in the event of a season ending unexpectedly early?

I think it’s the right time to look at league reconstruction, award Celtic the league, Dundee United and three others get promoted and there’s no relegation. It’s the closest we can get to keeping everyone happy.

There’s also been a need for a bigger league for a while.

No chance that a big decision like that can be, or should be made on the hoof as a 'solution' to another problem.

[G B Young]

Not football related but looks like all NHL games are going to be cancelled, all on ice officials have been told to return to their homes.

The ATP tour has shut down. That's a massive financial hit for them:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/51841130

[SQHib]

[QUOTE=WhileTheChief..;6116395]Our league season can be ended at any time by the SPFL board.

So I guess if they say this weekend is the last league games of the season, then that's all there is to it.

Simple really.[/QUOTw


Although I can’t believe it in the middle of a pandemic but I reckon
They honestly are letting this weekends bigot fest go ahead and if Celtic win they may void the season and if huns win it will
Be paused !!!

What other reason for not stopping mass gatherings now like in Ireland if it’s such a strain on the emergency services - this weekend will put more strain on the NHS due to football related cases than the rest of the season added up ffs !!!

[660]

[QUOTE=WhileTheChief..;6116395]Our league season can be ended at any time by the SPFL board.

So I guess if they say this weekend is the last league games of the season, then that's all there is to it.

Simple really.[/QUOTw


Although I can’t believe it in the middle of a pandemic but I reckon
They honestly are letting this weekends bigot fest go ahead and if Celtic win they may void the season and if huns win it will
Be paused !!!

What other reason for not stopping mass gatherings now like in Ireland if it’s such a strain on the emergency services - this weekend will put more strain on the NHS due to football related cases than the rest of the season added up ffs !!!

This is next level conspiracy theory pish.

[Hibs90]

How many leagues now suspended?
Italy, Spain, France, Holland, Portugal, MLS, assuming others?

Why on earth isn't SPFL and England?

[Hibbyradge]

How many leagues now suspended?
Italy, Spain, France, Holland, Portugal, MLS, assuming others?

Why on earth isn't SPFL and England?

The SPFL will stop from Monday if gatherings of over 500 are banned.

[cabbageandribs1875]

We haven't even qualified yet! Not that we really deserve to via that back door Nations League nonsense.

Have to assume our play-off match will be called off this month anyway.


why would we not deserve to ? that's the rules 😐

if we win the final do you think we should say, nah we don't really want to qualify now coz GB young says it's no right

[BoomtownHibees]

How many leagues now suspended?
Italy, Spain, France, Holland, Portugal, MLS, assuming others?

Why on earth isn't SPFL and England?

There’s a big game on Sunday don’t you know?

50,000 in the one place on Sunday but nothing over 500 from the very next day

[WhileTheChief..]

Is there anything in the rule book which stipulates what should happen in the event of a season ending unexpectedly early?

I think it’s the right time to look at league reconstruction, award Celtic the league, Dundee United and three others get promoted and there’s no relegation. It’s the closest we can get to keeping everyone happy.

There’s also been a need for a bigger league for a while.

Not sure about the first part, but i think your point about league construction is one that they will be looking at closely.

Personally I don't agree with it, but you're right in saying it's the only way to keep most people happy.

The SPFL / SFA will do anything to avoid controversy or court cases and that fees like the easy way out. They will never get a better chance of so many clubs voting for it.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

I would hope direct talks are ongoing between the wider SPFL & both sides of the Old Firm to formally announce the cancellation/postponement of Sunday’s game and the leagues plan going forward.

Highly irresponsible for any games this weekend to go ahead.

[Hibbyradge]

Not sure about the first part, but i think your point about league construction is one that they will be looking at closely.

Personally I don't agree with it, but you're right in saying it's the only way to keep most people happy.

The SPFL / SFA will do anything to avoid controversy or court cases and that fees like the easy way out. They will never get a better chance of so many clubs voting for it.

14 teams.

Play each other home and away then split. 26 games.

Top and bottom 7 play each other home and away. 12 games.

Total 38 games as it is now, except clubs wouldn't go for it because it gives them at least one or two fewer home game against Rantic.

Anyway, that's for another thread.

[Since452]

I would hope direct talks are ongoing between the wider SPFL & both sides of the Old Firm to formally announce the cancellation/postponement of Sunday’s game and the leagues plan going forward.

Highly irresponsible for any games this weekend to go ahead.

Totally agree. Hopefully thousands of fans will rightly choose not to attend.

[jeffers]

Is there anything in the rule book which stipulates what should happen in the event of a season ending unexpectedly early?

I think it’s the right time to look at league reconstruction, award Celtic the league, Dundee United and three others get promoted and there’s no relegation. It’s the closest we can get to keeping everyone happy.

There’s also been a need for a bigger league for a while.

Won't happen unless they can somehow guarantee 4 OF league games per season. more of an issue I'd imagine given next season it is Sky only who are showing Scottish football.

[Captain Trips]

The season will be paused, what did the league in China do.?

[Iggy Pope]

Arsenal - olympiakos owner had the virus and shook hands with them.

Arsenal declared their problem days ago and they isolated the players concerned. It’s not them.

[The 90+2]

It’s already been confirmed it’s Leicester.

[Sir David Gray]

The season will be paused, what did the league in China do.?

Their season was only due to start at the end of last month so it's not started yet.

[The 90+2]

Couldn’t we promote two from each league without relegation and sort out the 14 team top league with the split(or splits)?
End of the season have 4 from the top league in the relegation playoff 2 drop out from the bottom.
Fewer losers.
Nah. Get hearts down.

[Iggy Pope]

Their season was only due to start at the end of last month so it's not started yet.

Trust the Chinese to get the timing right.

[Phil MaGlass]

Couldn’t we promote two from each league without relegation and sort out the 14 team top league with the split(or splits)?
End of the season have 4 from the top league in the relegation playoff 2 drop out from the bottom.
Fewer losers.

no, hertz need tae go straight doon, f em

[RoYO!]

My husband is a teacher and it's a bit of a nightmare for him even when the kids are away on a school trip (never mind a complete shutdown). Simply because they have so much to get through each term, that it is planned down to the hour.

I have, however, suggested to him they might want to consider going on strike a bit less often to free up some time... you can imagine how that went down 🤣

How many times have teachers been on strike like?

[DH1875]

There’s a big game on Sunday don’t you know?

50,000 in the one place on Sunday but nothing over 500 from the very next day

That's what I don't get. If your gonna ban it, ban it. Why wait until Monday.

[Haymaker]

Someone said the English league was suspended in 1985/86 season for a month? So has been done before but I'm to young to know if that's true.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/51860864

[Max_Shah]

CROSS POST FROM THE HOLY GROUND:

Press Conference – 17:30 UK by Boris and a front-line NHS workers thoughts.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A calm and measured response based on the available Empirical Data.

And apparently we live in an age of ignoring “experts”

Very impressed with the UK Govt/NHS response thusfar and I voted for the other guy.

If there was ever a good time to chap a door and get to know your "neebor" then now is time

This ain't political. Seriously the most practical thing one can do is...

WASH YOUR ****ING HANDS HIBEES

https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.gMZtWPwz3aC0cZLx-agDZQHaEO&pid=Api&rs=1

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/51860864

There are no quotes in there from the SPFL? I haven’t heard anything from them yet which is strange given the govt have just stopped people attending their games? Maybe this has caught them by surprise?


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[Renfrew_Hibby]

There are no quotes in there from the SPFL? I haven’t heard anything from them yet which is strange given the govt have just stopped people attending their games? Maybe this has caught them by surprise?


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They will be waiting on advice comming out of Celtic Park and Ibrox

[JeMeSouviens]

That's what I don't get. If your gonna ban it, ban it. Why wait until Monday.

Because we are on an exponential growth curve but fairly near the start. Have a look at Italy, we are a couple of weeks behind them.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

The ban is not intended to halt the spread, it is intended to reduce the load on emergency services when large number of hospitalisations are happening.

[DH1875]

Because we are on an exponential growth curve but fairly near the start. Have a look at Italy, we are a couple of weeks behind them.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

The ban is not intended to halt the spread, it is intended to reduce the load on emergency services when large number of hospitalisations are happening.

Why we looking at Italy and not Ireland, Israel, Singapore and whole load of other countries.

[Ronniekirk]

I find myself torn The Medical Experts flanking Boris we’re clear and concise in Thier thinking and rationale
We are a possible 10 weeks away from the peak
England is a present not advising big events to be cancelled but they have higher numbers than us That will change at some point , but if they don’t need to now , why do we Have we jumped to early ? Or Have England got this wrong
Just playing Devils Advocate


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[hibbyfraelibby]

Advised? or actually banned?

Advised at this stage but it would be a foolhardy business that ignored government advice...

[hibbyfraelibby]

I suspect the vast majority going to the game at Ibrox on Sunday would object to it being referred to as a mass gathering.

...or having to use soap😉

[Lago]

There are no quotes in there from the SPFL? I haven’t heard anything from them yet which is strange given the govt have just stopped people attending their games? Maybe this has caught them by surprise?


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I doubt the Scottish Government even thought for a minute to consult with any of
The sporting bodies. Pro 14 rugby suspended as of now.

[hibbyfraelibby]

I doubt the Scottish Government even thought for a minute to consult with any of
The sporting bodies. Pro 14 rugby suspended as of now.

Get the impression they are worried about paramedics and police resources becoming stretched as the most important factor. Seems the same number of people are expected to get it but we need the medics and cops to be fit and available for the spike. What they are trying to do is flatten the spike and spread it over a longer period. The modelling is showing when mass gatherings need to be cutailed and you can bet no CHO, even an ugly sister supporting one, would consider giving advice to postpone the ban if they knew the consequences.

[jacomo]

Well I’m still none the wiser.

Why are some sporting events cancelled and not others?

[lapsedhibee]

Well I’m still none the wiser.

Why are some sporting events cancelled and not others?

Because there's no proper leadership coming from the UK government? :dunno:

[Billy Whizz]

Well I’m still none the wiser.

Why are some sporting events cancelled and not others?

Can’t answer your question, unless you give an example

[G B Young]

The season will be paused, what did the league in China do.?

I can't see how our season could be paused. It would simply have to be brought to an end early. Clubs will already be well down the road for close season planning and there will be contracts all over the country coming to an end in May, so you couldn't realistically extend the season. Delaying the remaining games until after the summer would be a nonsense too as it would be a completely different dynamic if there was a transfer window permitted before things picked up again.

[G B Young]

Advised at this stage but it would be a foolhardy business that ignored government advice...

The assumption must be that this weekend will be the final round of fixtures until further notice.

[Captain Trips]

I can't see how our season could be paused. It would simply have to be brought to an end early. Clubs will already be well down the road for close season planning and there will be contracts all over the country coming to an end in May, so you couldn't realistically extend the season. Delaying the remaining games until after the summer would be a nonsense too as it would be a completely different dynamic if there was a transfer window permitted before things picked up again.

It will not be brought to an end early. The season will be completed either after a suspension or behind closed doors. The transfer window can easily be changed or lengthened.

[NAE NOOKIE]

I haven't read all of the thread, so perhaps this has already been raised. Clubs getting to the end of the season financially if the league is cancelled or played behind closed doors probably isn't a huge problem. But what if we get into July with no sign of this crisis ending, how many folk are going to be put off buying season tickets from April onwards when they have no guarantee they will be allowed to attend the fixtures?

Its a worse case scenario, but if it was to happen you have to wonder just how badly affected many clubs would be. Not only that, but we already have the likes of Livvi and St Johnstone handing 3 sides of their stadiums to the uglies because they need the extra income, income which would be cut off with no spectators allowed.

In this hand to mouth league, just how many clubs would be in jeopardy if there was no end to this by say October or November?

[scooby]

Some perspective, a piece written by Dr Abdu Sharkawy

I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.

I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.

What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.

I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
imagine?

I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.

But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.

Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.

I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.

Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it.

[superfurryhibby]

This virus isn’t going to go away, it’s probably here forever. Just like the flu.

We’re doomed laddie, doomed.

[G B Young]

It will not be brought to an end early. The season will be completed either after a suspension or behind closed doors. The transfer window can easily be changed or lengthened.

You just need to look at the way things are changing on a daily basis to realise this isn't coming to an end anytime soon and in a worst case scenario may even have an impact on NEXT season getting under way (Scottish government have said the peak months for the virus are predicted to come in the summer). In sport alone we're seeing ever more events/leagues/tours etc suspended, while an increasing number of sportsmen and women are self-isolating as infection spreads - and as such the closed doors option doesn't really hold water.

As others have said, the most practical solution would be to simply end the season this weekend. There can surely be no doubt that Celtic and Dundee United have won their respective titles (haven't looked to see how things stand in the other leagues) while it's fair to say Hearts are now strong favourites to go down automatically. The Scottish Cup would, unfortunately, just have to be voided for this season.

Either that or just declare the whole season a write-off. However, I think having SOME sort of resolution would be better than that, which is why winding things up this weekend is probably the 'least worst' scenario.

Bottom line, there's a much bigger picture to consider here and when all's said and done it's only football.

[Scouse Hibee]

This virus isn’t going to go away, it’s probably here forever. Just like the flu.

We’re doomed laddie, doomed.

Aye also like the flu there will eventually be a vaccine and we move on until the next new virus hits us.

[Captain Trips]

You just need to look at the way things are changing on a daily basis to realise this isn't coming to an end anytime soon and in a worst case scenario may even have an impact on NEXT season getting under way (Scottish government have said the peak months for the virus are predicted to come in the summer). In sport alone we're seeing ever more events/leagues/tours etc suspended, while an increasing number of sportsmen and women are self-isolating as infection spreads - and as such the closed doors option doesn't really hold water.

As others have said, the most practical solution would be to simply end the season this weekend. There can surely be no doubt that Celtic and Dundee United have won their respective titles (haven't looked to see how things stand in the other leagues) while it's fair to say Hearts are now strong favourites to go down automatically. The Scottish Cup would, unfortunately, just have to be voided for this season.

Either that or just declare the whole season a write-off. However, I think having SOME sort of resolution would be better than that, which is why winding things up this weekend is probably the 'least worst' scenario.

Bottom line, there's a much bigger picture to consider here and when all's said and done it's only football.

Itonly being football is irrelevant, the season will not end as it is. The games will be played. Utter nonsense about Hearts that is the least cut and dry scenario. There is no chance at all Hearts will be relegated if we have 10 games left. What is situation in all other divisions? No club irresepective of this sitation will accept dropping out of leauge they are in.

[G B Young]

Itonly being football is irrelevant, the season will not end as it is. The games will be played. Utter nonsense about Hearts that is the least cut and dry scenario. There is no chance at all Hearts will be relegated if we have 10 games left. What is situation in all other divisions? No club irresepective of this sitation will accept dropping out of leauge they are in.

There are only eight league games left. And Dundee United are a lot more certain to come up than Hearts are to stay up. Perhaps the league could look into some compensation for the clubs who go down due to the unusual circumstances which hastened their relegation.

But if it gets too complicated then would scrapping the season really be such a big deal in the long term? I'm not sure it 'only being football' is irrelevant. Let's face it, we'd all get over it eventually and be back watching when the next season is able to get under way. A similar conclusion gets drawn here:

https://theathletic.co.uk/1669393/2020/03/12/coronavirus-and-football-games-closes-doors-euros-champions-league/

[mjhibby]

Well I’m still none the wiser.

Why are some sporting events cancelled and not others?

Exactly. The USA has shut down all major sport. We are doing bugger all. One of them is wrong. If we don't suspend sport the USA will ban everyone from Britain. Even bloody Disneyland is shutting but not here. Bizarre. Hertz of course must be relegated. The decent thing to do to help them rebuild quicker.😅

[mjhibby]

There are only eight league games left. And Dundee United are a lot more certain to come up than Hearts are to stay up. Perhaps the league could look into some compensation for the clubs who go down due to the unusual circumstances which hastened their relegation.

But if it gets too complicated then would scrapping the season really be such a big deal in the long term? I'm not sure it 'only being football' is irrelevant. Let's face it, we'd all get over it eventually and be back watching when the next season is able to get under way. A similar conclusion gets drawn here:

https://theathletic.co.uk/1669393/2020/03/12/coronavirus-and-football-games-closes-doors-euros-champions-league/

I'm afraid many euro leagues are shutting down till further notice. It's going to happen. Every club is going to suffer financially and there's no money available from the spl. They have already said so. We need to face reality and deal with it. Head in the sand strategy at the moment.

[Captain Trips]

There are only eight league games left. And Dundee United are a lot more certain to come up than Hearts are to stay up. Perhaps the league could look into some compensation for the clubs who go down due to the unusual circumstances which hastened their relegation.

But if it gets too complicated then would scrapping the season really be such a big deal in the long term? I'm not sure it 'only being football' is irrelevant. Let's face it, we'd all get over it eventually and be back watching when the next season is able to get under way. A similar conclusion gets drawn here:

https://theathletic.co.uk/1669393/2020/03/12/coronavirus-and-football-games-closes-doors-euros-champions-league/

I think to the clubs it would be a massive deal. It is academic as I 100% believe it will have some closed door games and the season extended. No club is accepting not being promoted or being relegated.

[mjhibby]

I think to the clubs it would be a massive deal. It is academic as I 100% believe it will have some closed door games and the season extended. No club is accepting not being promoted or being relegated.

The logical thing would be to delay euro 2020 and finish the season late. It would the carry into next season which would be delayed. Can't see any other way.

[GreenCastle]

Patrick Thistle statement saying games will be closed doors after Monday.

[kaimendhibs]

This virus is serious. People are dying. Never under estimate it. But,
Ive had it and now recovered. Its not nice, sore throst, head and bones. Sore dry coufh.
Missed about 8 hibs games, (home and away seadon ticket), trip to london snd gig in dundee.
Im 56, high bp and other stuff.
Im still here phew

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