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I wouldn't call myself a Bob Vylan 'fan', but I've seen them live twice (at a festival my wife and I go to every year for punk/hardcore/metal etc) and they never disappoint with their performances. As a contemporary punk who embraces many elements of rap culture and creates a unique crossover listening experience, I love their 'no punches pulled' approach - that is what artistic right should look like, and **** the BBC for thinking they have a right to tell me what musical messaging I should or should not be listening to. Same goes for Kneecap - I'm not a fan of their music (maybe one or two tracks I can get into), but it shouldn't be up to the BBC or the political elite to dictate what messaging gets out there.

The organisers of Glastonbury should take a long hard look at themselves for coming out with their 'appalled' and 'disgusted' nonsense. If you're trying to say you booked Bob Vylan without knowing they might do that, you did absolutely zero due dilligence on them. Also, it's clear to see this has become a smokescreen from the actual messaging of many bands over the course of the weekend - the continued genocide being perpetuated by the State of Israel. I bet the BBC and Glastonbury organisers were expecting some of this (while aiming to predictably censor some of it) and have most likely been surprised by how widespread the public sentiment is. The closure of the walkways to the stage Kneecap were playing at and the size of the crowd for both them and Bob Vylan says loudly that they are in the 'public interest'.

Absolutely nothing Bob Vylan said or chanted on Saturday is antisemitic. A free Palestinian people, no longer being slaughtered while queuing for basic necessities, is not an antisemitic idea. Wishing death on an organisation carrying out that genocide is not an antisemitic idea. Just because they are the military force of the Israeli State does not equate to antisemitic. You need a real lack in nuaunce and critical thinking make that leap. That notion, 'death to the IDF', is also not calling for the murder or violence against individuals within the IDF - it's calling for the abolition of an institution perpetuating mass violence against civilians. We all called for and celebrated the death of Rangers FC. No right-thinking individual was calling for all those affiliated with the club to be murdered. Death to the institution is one hell of a leap to wishing ill on those involved in it - all everyone with a moral compass wants to see is the death and suffering to stop.
Is it? The bigger leap is trying to equate the liquidation of Rangers with what Bob Vylan chanted about the IDF. Of course he wished ill upon those involved in it.